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I can hear it on the Okay,
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and he's you can see like all the smoke
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Yeah, we came back from the second
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remark over the radio.
Oh yeah, we better turn to that.

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Um, and we won't stream it. We'll just
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meeting's over, we'll we'll download it
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» It'll just be done after the meetings.
Okay. No one's going to be able to

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» stream said airport meeting.
>> Hey, William.

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» How's it going, man?
>> Good. How are you?

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» Long time no see.
>> Yeah, it's been a while.

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» We'll fix it afterwards. Yeah, we just
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legal though.
>> Oh, yeah. We're fine. Okay. Yeah, every

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as long as it's recording, we are fine.
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» Thank you.

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» All right. So, let's get started.
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» they can hear us. Sorry.
>> Can Rachel hear us?

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» You Oh, I didn't.
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So, uh, this is the, uh, Grand County
Airport Board. It's 4 o'clock on July

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6th.
I'll call this meeting to order.

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First of all,
who's here? Randy, Jason, Dan, Jeff,

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Bill, Bill, Howard,
whatever that Steve [laughter]

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Steve,
>> we have Rachel.

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» Rachel's online.
>> We have a listener from the yard. So,

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» okay.
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» All right. Any We do we have any
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» They can't hear us. It's not streaming,
right? So, anybody online that wants to

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say anything?
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First order of business, uh, approve the
minutes from the June 1st, 2026 meeting.

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I'll make a motion to approve the
June 1st, 2026 airport board. I'll

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second.
>> Jason uh moves that we approve them as

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is and Howard seconds. All in favor?
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» I unanimous.
>> All right. I

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» All right. Um,
Steve, you're up. Report director

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report. Okay, first off, um, let's talk
about the Sky West Airlines schedule a

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little bit. Most of you should have had
a chance to go through what they're

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proposing.
Um, which is, um, October 1st start to

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Salt Lake.
We're proposing an October 7th start to

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Denver. We are working really hard to
see if we can't eliminate that 7-day gap

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in another way. So, I've spoken with Sky
West about it. Um, they're looking for

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whatever way we might be able to keep
that keep that running so that we don't

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lose that week. Uh, but Salt Lake will
definitely start October 1st. Just to

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tell you what the issue is. Um because
DOT took so long in making this

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decision. United requires a certain
amount of training time and that's as

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fast as they think they can get it in.
We're petitioning them to see if we

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can't condense that down a little bit um
to make that October 1st date. So more

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to follow on that. I'm working with Sky
West closely with Sky West to see if we

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can't make that happen. Also, while
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um, want to make sure that everybody
understands that what if, if you read

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their posting for the jobs, um, read
them closely because some of them say

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full-time positions with an S positions.
So, it's easy to get confused and think

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there's maybe one full-time person, two
full-time persons. Right now, they're

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proposing five full-time people. Um,
which is, I believe, Rachel can correct

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me if I'm wrong. I believe is what
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there'll be part-time positions along
with that. Some of this will be seasonal

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as it is with Concour. You ramp up uh
when it's busy and you slow down when

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it's not. Um, so
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employees.
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» I understood that you did, but that's
totally okay. Um, we're working with Sky

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West to I was saying that because I
thought Contour did that. Um, Sky West

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is not committed to doing that. So, we
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the we should have the exact same level
of employment. We're also working on

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making sure that they don't post a lower
wage um which they've posted. So, all

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those things are still in flux and we
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feet to that fire. So
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» Just FYI.
Um the numbers from January and May.

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» One one question now the the winter off
peak no flies to Salt Lake.

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» Yeah.
Right now that is the plan. We'll see

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how but all of this can change depending
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» that's what Sky West did last time. They
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Lake.
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Phoenix flights now in in the winter
when the traffic goes down. It's just an

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off peak thing. If there's if there's
enough usage, of course, they'll keep

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flying it. So, some of that just depends
on how it turns out. The schedule can

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change as we find out who's using which
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» right? But they if they're not scheduled
flights, they can't book. So, we have no

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way of knowing. Right now they're
proposing it based on um past

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performance, based on what happened last
time they were here and also based a

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little bit on what contours Phoenix
flight was doing. So they're kind of

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trying to look at all of that, piece
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most flights during the busiest times.

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» They shouldn't look too hard at the
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that it roll food to other?
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hub to hit the hubs at the hub times.
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» Now, the problem is there's a hub coming
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» right? So, some of these were hitting
the hub coming and some of these were

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hitting the hub going. So, it's
when you got two flights a day, you can

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hit both. um when you get one flight a
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the hub time to go somewhere go in the
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somewhere in the middle so you can get
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>> So yeah, that is also a topic for

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conversation with with them ongoing.
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» Other questions before we get to
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This
is what's out there now. It's not

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necessarily what's going to be
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» And last I looked, last I looked, we're
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» right? Yeah.
>> I haven't tried that. It was supposed to

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go online.
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» Oh,
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it was going to go online.
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» I'll tell Cody and confirm exactly when
this will be live for booking. They

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waited for us to approve this schedule,
which I told him just get get it out

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there as quickly as possible. So, I was
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not ask that question. Cody from Sky
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question. When will it be able to be
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And I will get that sent out to all of
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So you don't have to wait till the next
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exactly what date we can expect it to go
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Um so you can see our our operations
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expect they'll probably level June and
start bumping off in July and August.

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That seems to have been the pattern. Um,
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consistent.
Not much talked about there.

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Visiting versus based aircraft, still
tracking that. Obviously, most of our

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most of our operations are from visiting
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You see which way the wind's going.
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seems like that should be bringing the
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and a little less smoke as kind of
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» Take off on 21.
That's more just a function of shaping

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the airport.
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as much taxing. If it's calm wind,
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» up like 10 knots the other way
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taxi.
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will also take off with a fair amount of
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change, but
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um when landings uh basically kind of
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fuel flowage
I don't know that we're up over last

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year not by a ton we were up a lot more
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our fuel flow is still a little higher
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and then the painful one fuel flowage
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dramatically down from last year. Again,
a lot of this is a function of

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changeover of of airlines. Also,
employment's not growing quite as

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quickly um through this. Also,
a factor that I think could be the

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changeover of airline coming. People are
anticipating that um potentially not as

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much advertising rolling in as maybe it
was before and promotion. So, I'm not

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overly concerned with that being down in
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again after we have a more stable
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we're not in flux.
We'll talk about this, but I just wanted

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this picture. Did you all get this
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» That's up there. It's the first P as the
first aircraft to park on our new

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concrete
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statistical relevance to that when we
get to the construction portion, but I

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just wanted you to see that was our it's
being used.

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» Thought you were showing us the smoke in
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» Well, that too.
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» So, Steve, did you get any feedback from
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of them are flying out of the old
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» Some of them aren't. And some of them
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» Yeah. And Blanding. Yeah, they're kind
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close to water.
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» you know, one of our issues is you can't
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» Okay.
>> I'm just curious why so many at the old

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airport versus the Canyon Lands airport.
Is it distance or is it

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» just to place the station?
>> Is there a fuel flow charges?

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» Typically they bring their own fuel,
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airport? No, not you mean when
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airport or at the
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We typically have not charged a fuel
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» Yeah. So, they're just doing it like
convenience then is closer to that.

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» Yeah. There are other fees we we might
look at charging them, but fuel flowage

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is not one of them.
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» Yeah. It's it's mostly convenience,
number of people, proximity to

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other things um where they can go take a
shower and have a place to sleep.

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» I'm sure they're probably camping out at
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» So, it's
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» a lot a good water source right now that
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» Okay.
But the ones that come out here like it.

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They they don't like the light placement
near our new hopefully helipad. But uh

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we'll discuss that at another time. J
and I are working through some ideas

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about that. So we'll get there. The next
thing that you have in your packet is

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the idea for the front entrance road.
>> You have slides on this or

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» um I can pull them up or they're the
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get out of the pack.
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not in the in the online packet there.
So, we can we can pull it up. Um,

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» the ones there.
>> Um, those are the ones I can

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» that's the first one. I think we they go
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detailed.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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» So, we kind of show the scope of the
work and what what's going to be

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happening. The first thing I want to
tell everybody is I just made a

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unilateral decision that we're going to
wait and do this in July of next year.

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Um rather than do that while we're doing
a a changeover of an airline. And uh

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there's I think all of us at the airport
right now are uh it's a good problem to

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have. We've got a little construction
fatigue. Um there's just so much been

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happening um that we just think I just
think it would be better if we waited

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and tore up our entry road after we're a
little more established and we do it at

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a slow point
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at a busy time of the airport uh in
October right when we're right when

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we're having airlines.
>> I totally agree with you on that. Is

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there a chance for additional funding if
we wait till next summer at all? Is that

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part of the
>> I don't think so. In in fact, um if

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anything, it's going to depend on what
oil prices do. The price of the project

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could actually go up. Uh it's just it's
just a bad time, I think, for us to be

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shutting down the airport.
And so if we lose a little bit of the

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uh we'll we'll choose the part we lose

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judiciously. Um but hopefully we can get
the whole thing bid and and paid for in

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July just as soon as we can here. In the
meantime, uh we're going to go ahead and

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kind of split it, I think, is what we
decided. And the engineering for it is

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going to be going forward so that we'll
be ready to rock. Um the intent is going

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out to bid January. that we mean
obviously we're we've been working on

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the intention of building it this fall
for the design aspects of it. Um we'll

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kind of back off and reallocate
resources and basically go for getting

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design finished by the end of the year
to go out to bid in January which is

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always a very good time uh for bidding
project. We'll just bid it with the

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intention of hey this is not going to be
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probably the June July timeline for
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» July August timeline.
>> Yeah. And this is something that can't

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be done in the winter because of the
asphalt.

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» So it's a seasonal correct the asphalt
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in the while it's not set in stone
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um they will either run it a little bit
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earlier depending upon what those
schedules look like. But generally

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speaking, unless the contractor who has
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the asphalt, they will always open up
their asphalt plants if they can get

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work out of it, but they won't do it to
sub as much. If there's anyone that's

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going to get early work, they're going
to do it or asphalt manufacturers, which

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» isn't necessarily something you would
want anyway for curing and just doing it

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when it's cold. It just doesn't cure
properly. It'll crack. It's It's not a

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good time to do it.
>> Um, as far as Oh, I I skipped ahead to

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entry roads. I wasn't reading our agenda
very closely. Um, so we issued our first

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as far as I know, the first
written uh letter to someone for uh

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violation of rules. We're not going to
bring up who it was or publicly shame

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anyone, but just as a reminder to
everyone, when you stop, you must wait

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for the gate to close completely
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We're not a sight airport, but we do
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were a side airport, it becomes
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some escalation clauses. You blow the
gate gate once, we're going to talk to

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you. You're going to come back in and
get retrained. You blow the gate twice,

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you're going to come back in, get
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written to you. And if you're employed
by someone, your employer, it's going to

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go to me, it's going to go to, you know,
whoever needs to see it. If it happens a

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third time, we start restricting gate
access for a period of time where if you

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work at the airport, that can be
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um we're hoping that this we can keep
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everybody's obeying these rules. So,
that was our one real incident that we

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had um to report as far as I the board
wanted to it's sort of an incident

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accident report. Does it have repercuss
repercussions against the company if

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they work for somebody
>> or the

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» well their employee can't their employee
can't get in the door

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» right there's nothing like
>> oh because your employee did this we're

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going to restrict your access business.
>> We don't we don't do that. It's an

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individual issue and
everybody gets trained by the same

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people. So, everybody should know
exactly what the rules are. And

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[clears throat] yeah, we just had one
that was a repeat offender and we

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actually let it go
longer than we should have before

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writing a frontal letter. So, we've just
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it's the first time we've ever had to do
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I think everybody's doing doing pretty
good. Usually just verbal warning and

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retraining gets it done. Um,
so that's it. Unless unless we have some

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questions. I'll talk some more when we
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Any questions?

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Just know that we're going to continue
to work with Sky Last um to try and make

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this change over as smooth as we
possibly can, but there's no way to do

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it perfectly smoothly. There's going to
there's going to be bumps in the road,

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but I'm working closely with Mark Ragio
in DC with Sky West uh to make sure we

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can make it as smooth as possible.
>> Hey, hey, Steve.

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» Yes.
>> I just wanted to clarify that on Sky

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West um web site for jobs, their career
page for their agents. It says this is a

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part-time position starting at $16 per
hour. their agents will be will be hire

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will be hired as part-time,
>> which is the conversation that Cody and

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I had today. He's got to go through a
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they can start changing that. Um, but he
and I were on the phone together uh

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today for about an hour and that was the
major topic of conversation was to make

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sure that that um hourly rate is raised
to a living wage in Moab. I I need them

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to take what they did was just took all
their EAS

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airports and just kind of got something
out there as quickly as possible.

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They're now going out and reviewing that
because they do need to start training

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people. They do need to start. So, they
just kind of got something out there

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quick. Um but yeah, I'm still talking to
him about that. Um gave him some new

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numbers that we want him to shoot for
and I'll be talking to him again

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tomorrow.
>> Well, yeah, that I mean that's what they

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promised, right? Full-time positions and
and our wage.

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And so, yeah, we're definitely going to
hold them to to what they what they said

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they would do. Had that conversation
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and we'll continue.
Any other questions?

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Oh, okay. We're we're going to be
working also on uh what the contract

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looks like. We've got several examples
of Sky West contracts with other EAS

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airports. We've got several examples of
um contracts from Contour and Denver Air

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connections with other airports. They're
all public record because these are EAS

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federally funded. So, we're looking at
those and creating a matrix. I think you

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guys have the matrix already. We're
we're just going to see if we can pick

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the best parts out and make sure our
contract is good. Actually,

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» can they add that to the contract?
>> What?

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» Yeah,
>> if we can certainly try. It'll be it'll

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be what
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» You know, I'm just I'm just trying to
look out for my agents. They can't work

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part-time at $16 an hour. That it's just
not feasible.

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» No, I'm I totally am with you and I
understand that. And if we can get that

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into the contract, we definitely will.
Some things some things are governed

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more by uh the Fed and some things are
governed more by the airport and the

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airline. So, we're still working our way
through which is which. And um we're

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going to get everything into that
contract that we can to make sure we

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have a solid written document.
I also think contour or iOS going to re

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is realized pretty quickly when they
start offering people part-time work

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that they're not going to find people to
take. No.

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» No. Especially if you have if you have
to go home and come back for for a

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two-flight situation when we're so far.
>> I think there are a lot of things that

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they're that they're the person that put
it out on the web did not take into

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account, but I'm I'm dealing with them
at the vice president level and and

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we'll try and get those worked out. And
I've talked to a couple people that have

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interviewed who I I asked them like,
"Did they offering you part-time or

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full-time?" They were like, "No, it's
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» um, so I think that maybe it is a
weapon.

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» Yeah. I think I think they're got to get
that fixed as quickly as possible. But

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yeah, just know we're working on it

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» for your people, too, Rachel. We I I
want them to be taken care of, too. I I

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I don't want anybody getting hurt.
over this change.

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» That's it.
>> Okay, back to you, Bill.

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» Do uh why don't we let Bill go first and

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on your county?
>> Yeah, there's a lot going on in the

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county right now. We're in the middle of
the shuttle

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to the end of Arches process. That'll be
a big discussion tomorrow.

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We um I know there's been some side
discussions with um Mick and the

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liaison, which is Brian Martinez,
regarding the advertising that's coming

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up with Sky West. So, we don't have
anything rolled out yet, but I know that

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they're trying to um parallel some TRT
money alongside the

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Sky West money so that we can reach a
broader group there. And I think that

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they're also trying to pinpoint the slow
times of the year as well. So, that's

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going on.

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What else are we in the middle of? We
got all kinds of stuff going on, but I

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think that's mostly airport related. You
know, I do think that um with Sky West

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coming in here and the shuttle at the
same time, those two are both going to

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hopefully open up some doors to the
rental business at the airport. So,

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and and as well as the shuttle business.
So, we should see some change there. I I

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don't know. That's probably Howard's
realm, but curious to hear how the

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trains running and what's going on there
when we get to that point. So,

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but that's all I got.
>> Okay, Jason.

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» Um, so the city has has a ton of
projects that are out to bid, you know,

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um, such as continuing sidewalks, the
ball fields, um, roads, um, and

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some flood mitigation things. that we
have all these things that are just kind

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of we're waiting for for it to come
back. So, I think in the next couple

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months we're going to be super busy kind
of approving some projects, things

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going. Um, kind of the big thing that
we've had this month was um was what to

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do with with the fireworks situation and
the fire situation. So that was kind of

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a big deal we've been dealing with the
last two two two and a half weeks is

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coming up with the moratorum or whatever
you want to call it on the fireworks ban

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within the city limits which took a lot
of work to kind of get that done with

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with the state. So yeah got it done all
I have right now.

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It seemed like it was pretty good. I
didn't see any major

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issues with fireworks. Did you?
>> No. That night everybody was quite

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respectful. Actually,
>> I talked to some firefighters who said

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that they didn't even hear fireworks at
that idea.

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» I didn't either. I mean, I right here.
>> Yeah. And so I thought it was great that

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everybody kind of heated that.
>> Yeah. Me, too. Yeah.

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» I think that was a big deal because even
last year I can remember they were going

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all over.
>> Yeah. Now we just got to get through the

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the 24th.
>> I know. And I think that that's kind of

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we gota So the fire ban goes till July
30th, but it has to kind of be

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re-evaluated by the city for a few weeks
to see if that still can hold up, you

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know. So
>> that's it. That's all I have.

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» All right. How um kind of a lot of pro
projects underway including a lot of

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advertising. Obviously, we're waiting
for the SEC or the UDOT for the decision

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to announce Sky West. Um, I do recommend
even though we don't have a board

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meeting this month, that the travel
office gets a goes ahead and kind of

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gets things going as you said, Bill, and
we'll go ahead and approve that next

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month. I'm all waiting for it to happen.
Um, a report from the returns this year.

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Obviously, the county works in a
two-month debt um behind, you know, when

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the numbers come in, but it was the
first the first quarter of this year. I

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heard it was the first positive quarter
of growth of the county in four years.

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So, I'd like to say that um the role of
marketing being re-engaged as it has

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been in the last couple years has
impacted our visitation here. also

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caveat the fact that there was no snow
this winter and it'll be interesting to

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see how the second quarter results come
in. But certainly transient room taxes

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are trending way above the budgets.
Restaurant taxes on the other hand are

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actually quite a bit in decline. They're
about 34% down. We're doing a check in

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to see if the number reporting is
correct. It's seen as quite an anomaly.

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So, but so far so good. Um so things
seem to be gradually coming back into

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Moab and we're doing all we can to
continue that um progression.

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» All right. Anybody else want to
report except Jud? You want to take your

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you want to take do your
>> um is it possible? You should be able to

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share a screen. Correct.
>> Did you want me to back up?

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» Uh no. I'm sharing something else
that worked up this morning. kind of

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family vacation pictures. Yes,

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» you should be able to share.
>> Okay. Yeah. Um they're not.

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[clears throat] Okay.

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Um
really go since the road's going to be

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pushed. But basically just what we're
looking just as a very very quick

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preview. the road the entrance road will
be happening in phases. It will be a lot

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of signage a lot and this is why the
complication arises is um let me zoom in

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as much as I can.
Um you know on the first phase we have

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no overnight parking
in front of the terminal open parking in

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the large parking lot. No overnight
parking. The reason for that is you

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don't want someone to get on a plane, go
for a vacation for three weeks, come

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back and forfeit it between them and the
exit.

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» So, um just kind of that long.
>> How far south does that extend? Does it

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go in front of our ners or is it short?
>> Uh the project will hit all of the road,

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not necessarily parking spots, but the
road from property line to the automatic

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gate.
>> Right. So,

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» so will we have no parking for a certain
period?

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» For a certain period, so during this
first phase, no, you daily parking in

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front of the hangers, but um long term,
the only thing would be available

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terminal parking lot [clears throat]
for us.

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» The second phase will be very impactful.
Um

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the rental car area will basically be uh
in access

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for construction. Um, again, no
overnight parking. We'll work out the

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details, but possibly rental cars in
front of the main terminal building

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because there the rental car parking
right now will be the main thri for

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construction traffic. Um, and obviously
that road will be be completely torn up.

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So, no parking there. Pedestrians will
have to access through a temporary

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walking path for general aviation
businesses and u GA tenants um or in a

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longer walk over to the terminal
building.

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The third phase
uh we'll build a secondary kind of

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temporary dirt road right at the
entrance to go around while we do the

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main entrance portion. By this point,
we'd have access to the parking.

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Um, but by this point, be able to drive
in all the way up through the gate.

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» How much time is each one of those
phases? Roughly,

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» uh, roughly right now where we're at is
25 days phase one, 10 days phase two

412
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:37,919
because there's some carryover. Um,
and 10 days phase three. So, 45day

413
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:43,919
project. on will impact the the entry
gate so we'll have another way to get

414
00:34:40,399 --> 00:34:50,079
around um so that skydive can continue
to get people in and we'll have accesses

415
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:53,520
with signage telling the access but
phase one is the longest one because

416
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:58,000
that's the one where the hole is in the
front of u the fire building and we're

417
00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:00,480
going to have to go deeper there's a
little more it's a little more involved

418
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:05,760
there
>> but it it's impossible to see on this

419
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:12,160
resolution but we
This is addressing pedestrians

420
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:19,599
u the commercial terminal or commercial
traffic vehicles of general aviation or

421
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:24,160
airport businesses versus rental versus
um taking into account fire access

422
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:29,040
taking into account EMS access for
getting care flights out uh fuel

423
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,640
deliveries um there will be a portion
would actually have to utilize boot

424
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:37,680
hills were most likely to escort same
way that the large asphalt trucks are

425
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:39,760
delivering right now um to escort fuel
trucks up there.

426
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,680
» Yeah.
>> Will we lose access to the fuel farm at

427
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,640
some point?
>> Uh

428
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,000
» no, [clears throat]
>> you might have to take you might have to

429
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,720
take a different route, but you're not
going to do it, but I can always get to

430
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,400
the tanks.
>> Always going to be able to fuel tank.

431
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:04,079
» There might be some, you know, short
crossover times where the it might be

432
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:09,200
» deliverable. That's the whole idea of
having this plan that we can then now

433
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,240
we'll be
>> uh teasing out over the next 12 months.

434
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,240
» Okay.
>> Yeah. Luckily, we have now plenty of

435
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,800
time to revise and look at other ways to
do it. So,

436
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:27,440
» yeah.
So, uh next is the uh

437
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:31,440
this is the apron. I just kind of wanted
to give you an overview of what what was

438
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,599
actually done out there. We're still
waiting on some test results to so we

439
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:39,599
can work out getting contractor paid,
making sure everything meets passes all

440
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:44,800
the long-term testing standards.
Obviously, not going to pay for

441
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:51,040
something if it's bad. Um, but you also
saw that it took significantly longer

442
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:58,800
than we had scheduled um due to some
problems with their paving. So the very

443
00:36:53,839 --> 00:37:06,079
first day ate a control strip and uh
then we ripped out two/3 but

444
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:10,079
uh came up with different designs uh
then came back and paved another section

445
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:16,640
as a control strip actually passed
enabled them to start going forward. Uh

446
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:21,040
then did what we're looking at is it's
hard to tell but there's little dots

447
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:28,640
here A through K 1 through 32. Those are
those 18 by 18 foot blocks of concrete.

448
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:33,440
Um so started doing them in pairs.
Poured that one on our third pore. Then

449
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:37,040
we ripped that out.
Um

450
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:41,280
then had a really good I you know
thought we had a or they thought they

451
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:47,680
had a good solution
and did that. Uh so then they came back

452
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,280
did a smaller section made them rip that
out. When they ripped that out, they

453
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,160
also broke part of the good part behind
it.

454
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:59,200
» Um,
then they came back and filled in that

455
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:03,839
original strip from the first day. We're
now by this point in time off the

456
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:09,280
original schedule where they should have
been completed. Now they're getting back

457
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:17,280
to finally finishing day one.
Um, next time build out the end,

458
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:21,520
added in smaller portions, got things
paved, and I don't know if you saw this

459
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:26,400
kind of very small portions paid on the
end, but that enabled the asphalt to be

460
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:31,040
paid. So, this is all the concrete. The
asphalt is the darker gray that

461
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:36,320
surrounds it. by doing these last final
sections that enable them to come back

462
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:41,440
and do the asphalt paving
to try to get that make sure that's open

463
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:48,720
before the current apron job is
happening. Um then they finally finished

464
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:53,680
everything out. Um, when it was all said
and done,

465
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:59,680
uh,
they did 10,300

466
00:38:56,079 --> 00:39:06,720
square yards of concrete and 11,000
square yards of asphalt. So, 21,000

467
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:13,280
square ft. Biggest parking lot in Grand
County is City Market.

468
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:19,520
And City Market is for just under 15,000
square yards. So, this is almost Imagine

469
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:23,440
all city market just being concrete
where the cars are at where the overall

470
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:28,480
projects 50% larger than the biggest
parking lot. And this is just that side.

471
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:32,720
You know, this is the new expanded
parking. So, it really was a monumental

472
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:36,880
project that will benefit the airport
lock.

473
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:42,720
So, it might have been some struggles
and some uh difficulties for the tenants

474
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,880
and recognize that. But you do have
something great at the end that will

475
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:52,240
last for decades.
So do you think that we need to write

476
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:57,280
into the specs that they batch on site
in future projects? I mean that is the

477
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:03,040
issue is by the time that mud gets
>> the time was one of the biggest aspects

478
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:08,720
and they
we can't tell them explicitly how to do

479
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:13,520
that work. It's
>> it's way FA works is they you just have

480
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,440
a spec. You can't tell somebody how to
meet the spec. They just have to

481
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:24,079
guarantee they will meet the spec. That
recommendation was made to them multiple

482
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:28,320
times. Um, and they didn't meet the spec
as a result.

483
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:34,320
» I think that if they did it again, I
think they would put the batch plant in

484
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:38,720
because was
monumentally unprofitable for them. this

485
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:43,200
project.
>> Every one of those red blocks indicated

486
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:47,520
an area where they paid they spent
hundreds of thousands of dollars on

487
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:51,760
concrete and time and materials, then
had to rip it out, then put it back in,

488
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:55,680
and they're only getting paid. So, they
paid

489
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:59,119
» they paid
20 30% of the project twice at their own

490
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,960
cost.
>> So, eventually, did they batch it out

491
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,040
there?
>> Yeah.

492
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:10,960
» Uh they started they changed how they
were running their trucks. So again, we

493
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:17,119
can't tell them exactly how uh their
batch plant runs 8 cubic yards at a

494
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:22,319
time. They started out with 10 cubic
yard doing 10 cubic yard loads to

495
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:28,400
minimize how much many trips they needed
to make out. Well, that resulted out of

496
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:34,720
the first 32 panels,
24 of them getting ripped out.

497
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:39,119
Yeah. comp test sample because just the
carryover that going try to get that

498
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:45,680
extra two cubic yards tacked on 10
minutes on each load 15 minutes on each

499
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:52,480
load. So started coming back.
>> So what we can do though Bill is we can

500
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:57,359
charge um damages
to people when they take too long. So if

501
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,480
this happens you can build into the
contract liquidated damage.

502
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:08,480
» Did we have LDS built into this?
>> Yes. And did they end up going into LDS?

503
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:13,599
» Uh, it comes down to the whether the
county chooses to impose. Uh, but yes,

504
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:19,920
yes, they did go into LDS. Um,
>> and what are the LDS daily?

505
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:27,200
» I I can't remember if it's 1750 or 2250.
I think on this one it was 1750 a day

506
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:34,920
to the tune of about 40 days.
But that's that is the only way we have

507
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:34,920
kind of a holding fee to fire. So

508
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,040
» that will be a discussion that we'll be
having with you

509
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:45,920
and then in turn with them once we get
all of the final testing data back.

510
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:50,880
» Do we have any projects coming up that
require concrete out at the airport in

511
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:55,440
the f future in the next I don't care.
>> Not in the short term. No. So it's we're

512
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,040
kind of over the hump on the concrete
for right now.

513
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,280
» Yes. Anything that would would be minor
curb and gutter type stuff.

514
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,640
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> That doesn't have to be

515
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:12,920
» and taxi would still be asphalt. Any
anything any of the other airport

516
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,920
pavements would be asphalt

517
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:23,280
» for some time. It's not a concern one or
the other.

518
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:31,200
And now we are fortunate I don't have
I'll stop sharing. Um

519
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:35,520
we I don't I only have live pictures. I
forot I don't have any on my computer

520
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,640
for the other project going.
>> You were going to bring those back.

521
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:45,119
» I
Yeah, I thought they were on here.

522
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:50,319
» So yeah, we've got the first phase is
done. Um we're waiting for the final

523
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,440
test results of that. We got the first
round of test results and we're waiting

524
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:59,520
for the finals. Um, they milled out the
other section today.

525
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:06,640
» And you, if you didn't go out and watch
that milling machine work, you missed it

526
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,680
now. It is It's hypnotic. It takes out
this much asphalt just as it's

527
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,200
» wow
>> driving down and dumps it into a dump

528
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,880
truck. It's
>> pretty incredible to watch. This

529
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:22,079
project's been going really smooth,
really well. So, and we were able to

530
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:25,839
with the the money we got from this is
what I wanted to point out. If we had a

531
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:30,400
picture with with the with the money we
were able to get from the county to do a

532
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:35,200
little closer to that 50ft section in
front of those buildings, we're able to

533
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:39,839
get the worst of it. So, the most failed
asphalt, we're able to completely mill

534
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:46,400
that out and replace it with 6 in of
asphalt. So, we got the worst of it

535
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,119
taken care of.
It's not the full width of the hanger,

536
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,200
but that was
>> No, it got the worst. It's the part that

537
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,920
was unraveling.
>> Yeah. Moving on.

538
00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:01,200
» Yeah.
>> Um, that one's going well. Again, the

539
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:04,480
road will rework for the entrance road
and then pay for maintenance to be

540
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:10,079
later.
>> How we doing on time on the

541
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:13,920
» the current apron job? Uh, I think we're
as of today, I think we're one day ahead

542
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:18,079
of schedule.
Um

543
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:22,160
depending on because they actually not
only mil everything but they actually

544
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:26,960
have have to hold the uh gra the first
layer. Um it will be the similar process

545
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,520
if you were there for the first phase
where they basically take they're taking

546
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:37,920
the whole area that they've mil. They're
digging out 30 in deep. They will haul

547
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:43,040
that away for right now. Then they will
dig out the rest down to 5t. Dump it on

548
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:50,240
the other half of the project. get that
material worked in, move that section

549
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:55,359
back on, work that material in, be ready
to go.

550
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:59,839
» PSJ has been good to work with and uh
>> really good. It's been really some these

551
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:04,599
guys are on top of their game.
>> What contractor is this?

552
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,599
» TSJ.

553
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:16,480
» Land was their sub for paving.
They did better paving than they did

554
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:23,680
with the concrete, but not by much.
>> So, we'll hopefully have the we will

555
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:30,640
have um the final testing stuff this
week from the phase one paving.

556
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,280
» Do we want to talk about the light poles
or something?

557
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:38,480
» No, let's I'll talk to you about it. Um
>> yeah, because we are getting questions.

558
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:43,040
I know that
>> it's Yeah, we'll we'll we'll talk about

559
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:46,040
it online.
>> Okay.

560
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:56,160
» And yeah, that so that handles all of
the the past project or the current

561
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,960
project and the next few project
maintenance and value.

562
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,880
» Hey, Steve, I think it's back to you for
airport leases.

563
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:09,200
» A couple of things to discuss about
airport leases.

564
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:15,280
with the easiest ones. Um, just waiting
for Laurel to get her survey points in

565
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:19,119
um for her first row of hangers that she
would she would like to build. So, she's

566
00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:23,440
got a surveyor. Um, she called me today.
I wasn't able to talk to her. Today was

567
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:26,319
kind of a a crazy day, but I'll get with
her tomorrow and see where we're at. So,

568
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:31,040
those are still moving forward, still
planned. Um, just need to get some

569
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:36,800
survey markers in and some policy
decisions made and we'll be moving on

570
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:43,119
that. One of the policy decisions is the
difference between 20 feet between

571
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:48,240
hangers and 30 feet between hangers. Um
30 feet between hangers lowers the cost

572
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:53,920
of construction
dramatically,

573
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:59,760
but it takes up an extra 10 ft of space
where we could be putting hangers. Um

574
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:02,640
I think there's two ways that we can
look at this and this will be something

575
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:08,400
I will write up and we can have as a
discussion item uh or a vote item at a

576
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,760
future board meeting. Uh we can say that
if we have joined hangers like

577
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:18,400
condominiumized hangers like T hangers
that are all in a row, we're basically

578
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:22,319
saving that 20 ft of space in between
each one of those if they were

579
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:27,359
individual hangers. So, putting 30 feet
between those and the one next to them

580
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:31,599
might be one way we can go with it
because if hangers are together, you're

581
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:37,359
saving the space that you're losing. Uh,
for single hangers, we stick with the 20

582
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:41,599
ft. Um, that's just one of the ideas I'm
floating as a concept. I'll have

583
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:47,280
something more written up for you of how
it actually impacts the space um later.

584
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,599
We're just kind of starting to look down
these things. So, that's first on

585
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:56,800
leases. um still have some of those
pipelines still looking at getting some

586
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:02,640
of those hangers done. Uh particularly
uh Skydive Moab um which

587
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:07,920
should be moving dirt here pretty soon
to get that one started. Uh the other

588
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:11,280
thing about leases is again one of these
things I'm going to have to write up for

589
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,400
you so that we can have it as a
discussion item because I'm we're not

590
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,880
ready to vote on it tonight and I don't
have the information for you but I want

591
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:23,839
to give you a heads up. Um, some of our
leases are very vague and some of them

592
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,760
are kind of all over the map as we go
through the leases uh as far as what

593
00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:32,319
people are paying and what people uh
what their terms are. Um, it's kind of

594
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:38,160
everywhere, but the one thing every
lease has

595
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:43,599
um in it is they are all subordinate to
the minimum standards and to the airport

596
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:49,280
rules and rags. So, if we want to clean
up some of the leases, some of them are

597
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:56,000
very long-term. The way we can do that
is through minimum standards um made

598
00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:58,800
statute at the county. So, these are
some discussions that we're going to

599
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,040
have to be having here in the next
little while. The other part about

600
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:09,920
leases as we dig into these things as we
find out that there are many sublet

601
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:13,359
hangers around
uh we need to decide as an airport if

602
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:18,720
we're okay with subleting. Right now it
looks like uh as an airport we are

603
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:23,280
because it's been working out for pretty
much everybody. Um, one thing I would

604
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:28,559
like to do, however, is make sure that
any hanger that is being sublet, we have

605
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:31,839
a separate sublet agreement with the
subleases.

606
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:35,920
One of the issues that we have is we
don't know who's in some of these

607
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:41,359
hangers. I mean, we don't have any way
to contact them. Um, if there was an

608
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:44,240
issue, we we uh don't do this. So, I
told you I came from two schools of

609
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:50,640
thought. Provo, we just didn't allow
subleting at all. uh Reton, we did allow

610
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:55,119
subleting, but the sublet agreement also
had to be signed by the airport so that

611
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,839
we knew who was in there. So, you have
to have an agreement with the person

612
00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:04,800
you're subleting to. And we have to know
how much you're charging that person.

613
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:08,480
Does that person also have insurance? Do
you have hangerkeeper liability

614
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,160
insurance?
Um just some of these different things.

615
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,559
And these are things we're just going to
have to come to policy decisions on

616
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:19,920
where we want to go. And and when we
come to have that conversation, I'm

617
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:25,119
going to I'm going to give you all
information on both sides of it so that

618
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:29,520
we can all discuss it openly how we want
to proceed because that is something

619
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:35,760
we'll build into the minimum standards.
If you are going to sublet your hanger,

620
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:41,599
the minimum standard for being a a sasso
is what it's called, a a special air

621
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:47,359
service operation. Hangarkeepering is
one of those operations and there is a

622
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:51,839
specific set of rules that we can put in
place that you have to follow to do

623
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:57,839
that. One of them is insurance u and one
of them is separate sublessie

624
00:51:54,319 --> 00:52:00,800
agreements. So, just an FYI, that's
we're a ways away from that yet. We're

625
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:07,119
still working our way through it. I'm
just trying to identify areas of concern

626
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:12,960
that we need to um start looking at
sooner rather than later. Um

627
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:18,079
and again, it's more of a liability
issue for me. Need to know who's who's

628
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:22,240
there. I know some of them, but um we
don't know all of them. We have

629
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:26,000
agreements for some of them, um but not
all of them. Uh so I think it would be

630
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:32,000
important that we that we put something
like that in place but again until I

631
00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:38,480
have something set up to do that with um
it's just a discussion item that we can

632
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:43,839
have. Uh the just one question on on the
is this also going to encompass uh

633
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:48,160
nightly or weekly rentals?
Is that lease subleasasing? What is

634
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:54,400
that?
We're going to have to talk about

635
00:52:51,440 --> 00:53:01,280
that's that's another topic. Do we want
to allow someone to do a nightly sublet?

636
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,200
If so, then that there should be a
minimum standard built in to do that. It

637
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,520
should be addressed in our minimum
standards. You can do a nightly, but

638
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:16,960
here's the process that you have to
follow to do that as a business. Um,

639
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:21,440
» does that fall under our FBO at all?
nightly and weekly. Those short-term

640
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:26,640
rentals, I would say, should be done
through the FBO because that's where you

641
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:31,359
already have the blanket of coverage of
insurance coverage. Uh, that would come

642
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:38,240
all of those people would come in under
that umbrella. If we try and do nightly

643
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:42,160
sublets at every different hanger, it's
going to be almost impossible for us to

644
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:46,960
keep track of who's here, who's not, um,
in the event of any issue of liability.

645
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,920
In a sense, then you would be creating
competition for our revenue.

646
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,359
» Exactly. [clears throat]
>> True. And I don't want to do that. We

647
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,720
need to protect and that's going to be
one of the next things we're gonna talk

648
00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:02,160
about here. Um protecting revenue
streams for the FBO. As you guys have

649
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,920
heard from me about a million times. Um
nobody comes into an airport and says,

650
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:09,520
"Gosh, that airport director and staff,
they're really good." They they don't

651
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:15,119
know we're even there if we're doing a
really good job. they they see our

652
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:18,559
terminal and they see our FBO. So, it's
really important to have a good strong

653
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:22,640
FBO. In order to have a good strong FBO,
you have to be able to protect some of

654
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:27,520
those revenue streams um that that
FBOs's are beholden to because your

655
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:34,000
minimum standards require your FBOs to
do a lot of different things for the

656
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:40,559
right to sell the fuel. [clears throat]
So, we require a lot of them. And if

657
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:44,800
we're not requiring as much of the
people who are coming in and competing

658
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:49,520
with them, um, that is an unfair
advantage against the FBO. So that's why

659
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,160
I want to tighten up those minimum
standards is to try to help protect some

660
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:59,200
of those revenue streams that
traditionally should belong to the FBO.

661
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:04,400
Is that making sense to everybody? There
are also some things with your FBO that

662
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:08,800
you should do in my opinion
um to make the FBO more profitable and

663
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:13,839
more able to
be strong. And one of those things is uh

664
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:20,240
that's the only person or the only
entity on the airfield in my opinion uh

665
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:27,040
that should have different lease terms
than

666
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:31,440
the rest of the airfield. FBO and ASO.
If you are a if you are qualified

667
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:36,240
minimum standard ASO, there are some of
those that we might be able to build in

668
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:41,119
some some favorable lease terms. One of
those is a longer lease.

669
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:47,599
So, if we give the FBO a little bit
longer lease, they have more ability to

670
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:52,319
finance their operation because as
leases expire, you know, buildings

671
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:55,760
» What's ASO?
>> Oh, sorry. Air service operator.

672
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:59,920
» Do we have any of those?
>> Oh, sure. Skydive Mand service operator.

673
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:05,760
» I get it.
>> Yeah. So, and there are [clears throat]

674
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:08,640
more that are operating that.
>> Yeah. We have the balloon people and

675
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,440
some others out there.
>> Yeah.

676
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:16,000
» Well, there's some others that are doing
some other things that we don't have any

677
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:20,079
minimum standards preventing them from
doing it. So, they're not having to meet

678
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:23,839
the same qualifications as the FBO.
Anyway, it's it's tricky and it's

679
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:28,400
complicated when you only have one FBO,
but we can't support more than one FBO

680
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:33,599
at the airfield. We just don't don't
sell enough fuel. Um because you want to

681
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,880
be careful
because it is a monopoly. You do have to

682
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:40,960
build some things into your minimum
standards to make sure that you um kind

683
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,079
of keep everything fair and above board.
And again, this is just the beginning.

684
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,920
This is the opening of this
conversation. I think I've mentioned

685
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:51,119
here before and Jed can back me up on
this. more airport directors have been

686
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:56,640
fired over rewriting the minimum
standards than almost any other topic.

687
00:56:54,000 --> 00:57:00,960
Um, so it's a tough one. It's
>> looking to move on.

688
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:06,960
» It's a tough one to move into, but it's
one I think that this airport really,

689
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:15,119
really needs. Um, partly to protect the
FBO. Uh, in light of that, the current

690
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:19,599
FBO uh lease was signed in 2023
um for all of their hangers. How many

691
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,799
years is that for?
>> Well, what I'm saying is we're going to

692
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:26,720
make those all 50.
>> I see.

693
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:32,319
» From 2023 on, we're going to do 50-year
leases for the FBO. Now, what we do for

694
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:37,280
the rest of the of the airfield, let's
talk and let's decide what's good. What

695
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:41,599
we decided in Provo was 40, a 30-year to
5 years. Why? Because for tax purposes,

696
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:47,440
that gives you the ability to depreciate
out the entire value of building. I

697
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:54,079
believe that's still the case. But um so
for most people we do 40. For the FBO we

698
00:57:50,720 --> 00:58:00,319
do 50. Now we would build that in some
of these leases that are almost unending

699
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:05,520
currently. We would build that in by
statute in the minimum standards and the

700
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:12,960
rules and regs stating
no individual airport lease can exceed

701
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:18,160
a period of this amount of time without
written consent from the count the

702
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:23,200
airport sponsor. All right. So, I'm I'm
letting you know this is the direction

703
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:29,680
that I'm hoping to move us and we will
have many many discussions along the

704
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:33,040
way, but this is uh
kind of I've been here a year now. I

705
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:39,839
have a pretty good feel for for what's
going on out there, for which direction

706
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:44,559
we're going. Um, and so we're going to
be having these these tougher

707
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:48,559
discussions and tougher votes over the
next coming months. And I I realize that

708
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:54,400
that's going to be right while we're
also prepping for an airline changeover.

709
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:58,000
But um we've just got to get started now
and we feel like we're in a position

710
00:58:55,839 --> 00:59:04,720
where where we can finally we got a
stable staff and um

711
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,280
you know so we're working hard on that.
Um

712
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:12,960
» Sarah Sarah's been doing a great job.
>> So as you build this idea, great idea.

713
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,079
Uh we also need the financial part of
it.

714
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,319
» Yeah.
>> Uh you know the I you know the rules and

715
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:21,760
regs I mean you got to have this
insurance that insurance and all these

716
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,599
other insuranceances. Yeah. We need we
need to really say well what's the

717
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:29,680
impact of that? No. Like when the FAA
does something, they say, "Hey, when

718
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:34,640
they do A tob, they say, okay, it's
going to cost10 billion dollars to to do

719
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,640
that, you know, and it's going to you
need to know the effect of

720
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:41,520
» for sure
>> of because if you add a bunch of rules

721
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:45,200
and regulations, a bunch of
insuranceances, that means that

722
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,880
» well, people are going to pay more to
rent a hanger."

723
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:51,280
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. We need to understand the B.

724
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:56,240
» No. Yeah, they will. if if we had that.
But but we're not um look, we don't have

725
00:59:53,839 --> 01:00:01,040
to reinvent the wheel on on this. This
has been done at a lot of other other

726
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:05,119
places. And frankly, it's just a rule.
If you're hangerkeepering,

727
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:09,119
the FBA wants you to have hanger keepers
liability insurance. I

728
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,520
» sure. for [clears throat] those that
don't have it. Now, I think what Bill's

729
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:18,079
point is we need to know is now the rent
on Bill Winfield's airplane going to go

730
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:21,760
up 100 a month or 500 a month, you know,
so that they can adjust that.

731
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:25,440
» No, I agree. I agree. That's why this is
going to be a discussion point. Minimum

732
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:29,760
standards don't get rewritten over the
course of a month.

733
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:33,760
» They they get rewritten over the course
of a year. I mean, these are discussion

734
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:39,280
points and some of them are heated. You
have public comment time. and we let

735
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:42,799
everybody at the airport um have input
uh so that we make sure that we get the

736
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:48,880
product out of it that is going to work
for the airport. All of that will be

737
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:54,640
part of it. Is um is hangerkeepers
liability insurance going to increase

738
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:59,280
the cost of that subletter? Probably if
they don't already have it.

739
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:05,280
» Yeah. the the the secondary thing the
other thing I would make sure that you

740
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:09,440
add in this is the idea of
uh are these some of these

741
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,480
insuranceances when we looked at this a
year or two ago

742
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:16,480
» some of the insuranceances weren't even
available you couldn't even get them

743
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,040
» so we don't want to write something in
you can't get

744
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:22,559
» no no no and that that's all part of it
like I said we don't have to reinvent

745
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:27,920
the wheel here it's been it's been done
at other airports so we just look at at

746
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:34,000
what they've and to find out what the
what the liability should be. I mean,

747
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:37,920
some some some people request so much
liability that you couldn't get it no

748
01:01:36,319 --> 01:01:42,640
matter what. So, of course, we want it
to be reasonable. Um, and we want it to

749
01:01:41,460 --> 01:01:45,359
[clears throat] be correct for our for
our airport. So,

750
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:51,680
» well, and some of the contention when
all that was going on before you arrived

751
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:56,400
was based off of trying to require
insurance that was similar to what the

752
01:01:53,440 --> 01:02:00,640
FBO carried. And so there you had all
kinds of people that own Hangar, Mr.

753
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:03,920
Bird, Mr. Holly, a bunch of people like,
whoa, whoa, whoa.

754
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:08,000
» Yeah. If you require hund00 million of
single li single liability insurance,

755
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:12,319
you're pricing everybody out of the
>> out of doing it. And [clears throat]

756
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:18,000
like I said, to to require that just
means somebody didn't understand the way

757
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:23,280
airports work. Um, and didn't understand
that other airports

758
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:27,200
have kind of dialed that in where it
should be. So that's the problem you

759
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:32,640
find is as we went out and serve
surveyed airports, we found a pottery of

760
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:36,079
this and this and this and this and
this. There wasn't there wasn't an there

761
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:41,200
wasn't a standard or international
standard for the survey.

762
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:47,040
» No, you go to um you go to specific
airports. Um when I was doing Provo, I I

763
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:50,880
used Jeffco as sort of my sample because
at the time we didn't have commercial

764
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:58,319
service but we're growing um as my
sample. For us, we would use a larger

765
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:02,160
um commercial service airport and we
would look at those. We we want to

766
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:06,160
compare apples and apples.
So, but you're right, as Jud has stated

767
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,119
in this meeting, if you look at one
airport, you've seen one airport.

768
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:14,240
Everybody does it a little bit
different.

769
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:17,839
» Um but but there are ways to dial
within.

770
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:22,880
» Great. So I I I just wanted to as as we
start the discussion on this, I think we

771
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:25,280
just need to uh try to identify all the
issues and try to address them. That's

772
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,000
all it was.
>> I agree. And let me just say right now,

773
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:32,720
I don't think that anybody in particular
on the airfield is is abusing it or

774
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:35,359
doing anything particularly wrong. I
just get worried about the liability of

775
01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:41,920
it. Sure.
>> And um if we're not doing our part, you

776
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,599
know, we need just need to do our part.
Yeah. Any questions about that?

777
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,760
» Yeah,
>> we're gonna have a ton. Oh, you had

778
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:53,359
something. Oh,
>> I did send an email for contacts and for

779
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:59,599
people to send in their insurance forms.
I've literally gotten two back from all

780
01:03:55,359 --> 01:04:05,119
attendants at the airport. Um, so if we
can, you know, if you guys know, you

781
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,799
know, people talking to them that we
don't have all of this year's current

782
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:13,839
insurance paperworks for it. I mean,
there's work people that have airplanes

783
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:18,160
on the field. Um, and maybe you might
have a little bit more

784
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:21,039
maybe information or ability to push,
but yeah, I've gotten I've gotten two

785
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,839
back.
>> So, so remind people that we need that.

786
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:30,559
Um, yeah, we don't have contact
information for people that are actually

787
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:37,359
that have hangers, they've moved or or
uh um that as we go through these

788
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:41,599
leases, we just we just find layer upon
layer of stuff that we that we need to

789
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:46,400
dig into. and we're going to it's just
going to this isn't going to this isn't

790
01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:53,520
going to be a six-month process. This is
going to take a while. So, bear with us.

791
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:57,839
But the starting point is um
find out how to contact everybody. All

792
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:04,160
right? Um it's hard for them to have
input if I can't notify them of a

793
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:08,160
meeting, for example. Um, so
anybody you know at the airport,

794
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:12,960
uh, some of you are out there more than
others, just tell them, please send

795
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,280
Sarah their contact info so that we can
move on with that part. We're not trying

796
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,839
to go after anybody. We just need to
know who's out there.

797
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:23,599
» Plus, with all the construction, I want
to make sure that everybody gets a fair

798
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,160
chance to know what's going on. I'd be
surprised if they show up one day like,

799
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,920
"Oh,
>> hey, the whole lamp's torn apart." I

800
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:36,079
mean we say we try to go okay
>> we sent out we sent out a blanket email

801
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:42,000
» or six months I think our emails are
probably fairly accurate. I think people

802
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:45,280
just haven't prioritized uh
>> moving them up. I think our emails are

803
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:51,440
accurate because we do hear back
>> from time to time from people. Um,

804
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:56,000
» oh, the other thing, the website, this
isn't about Lisa's. Sorry, I should have

805
01:05:52,880 --> 01:06:01,200
brought this up during, uh,
director's report, uh, the website. We

806
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:05,599
have found out AJ was going to comment
on this, but Sarah and AJ have been kind

807
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:09,760
of working together on how we can update
our our web page, our airport web page.

808
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Um, do you want to tell them? So
according as a map the uh Grand County

809
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:19,440
took all the I guess external websites
and have made it where they go directly

810
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:25,760
to the county website. So we cannot have
our own external website as of right

811
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:30,400
now. Um but we are kind of hand tied on
what we can put on there basically by

812
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:36,480
the way the Granite County website is
built. So, we will be getting with Matt

813
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:40,160
at some point in it to kind of like make
ours a little bit nicer and things that

814
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:44,079
we have posted on, they aren't showing
up. So, we're going to get with him and

815
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:48,160
make sure that we understand, you know,
the website well enough that we can put

816
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:50,319
more stuff on there.
>> So,

817
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,559
» yeah, cuz right now when we change
something, it doesn't show up.

818
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:56,720
» Yeah.
>> On on the actual site. We'll make the

819
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:59,119
change exactly as told and then it
doesn't show up. We'll try and put a

820
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:03,200
picture in. Not nice.
>> It didn't show up. Yeah. not not getting

821
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:06,160
there. So, we're working our way through
that. But the one thing we know and I

822
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:10,000
understand this them bringing everything
under one umbrella makes sense. You want

823
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:15,039
to you if you want to centralize your
branding so that everybody's not all

824
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:18,799
over the map, but we've got to figure
out a way that we can that we can update

825
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:23,760
some things a little a little easier and
and AJ is the one that's been working on

826
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:29,599
that from this point. So, we appreciate
uh his help with that. So, that's it for

827
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:34,640
me. I'm long- winded.
Hey, Steve. It's Rachel.

828
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:38,880
» Um, I just wanted to say thanks for um
the work you're doing on those leases. I

829
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:43,839
think that's had to have been done a
long time. So, the time you're taking to

830
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:48,079
get everything done with those. Um, I
really appreciate it.

831
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:53,520
» Well, well, you're welcome. But let's
let's give a big thanks to Sarah as well

832
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:57,280
and Chrissy from
>> Legal.

833
01:07:54,400 --> 01:08:02,720
» Yeah. because they they have uh been
working together to get a lot of this

834
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:05,680
sorted out. Uh so yeah, I appreciate
that. We're we're really trying to get

835
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:10,400
on this. I have
>> to say I have to give Jess a shout out

836
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:16,400
because I can really see where she was
putting stuff together before I came and

837
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:19,679
where she got to and she did a lot of
work on it also. So I will give her

838
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:23,520
credit for credit
>> getting everything organized. Jess was

839
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:28,480
doing very well right in the middle of
it. Um, and so luckily Sarah was able to

840
01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:32,719
see exactly where that was and pick it
up and go.

841
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:35,960
» Good job, team. Way to go.
>> Thank you.

842
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:44,719
All right. Uh, on the airport entrance
sign, not a lot has happened. We found

843
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:48,719
out that there is a ordinance that
prohibits uh electronic signs in the

844
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:56,480
county.
Uh, and it's unclear. So, we're

845
01:08:52,799 --> 01:09:00,480
researching what that means. Uh, it's
the city has an exemption right now. So,

846
01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:07,839
they can have digital signs, but the
county can't. Uh, so we're also looking

847
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:12,480
still looking for funds and ways to go
forward. So, if anybody has any ideas,

848
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:15,600
uh, I'll leave it on the agenda and
we'll talk about it in the future. Yeah,

849
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:21,279
I would love it if there was some kind
of a way we could at least have it on

850
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:28,880
during the day. Um, but this fight has
been fought before and uh didn't didn't

851
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:32,000
» I I need to know about the fight that
fought that was

852
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:37,359
» Well, I heard that that that another
company tried to put the sign in to see

853
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:40,159
if they could get a sign and this was
years ago. This is when this ordinance

854
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:45,040
first came out.
>> How old is the ordinance?

855
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:48,239
I'm not sure how old the ordinance is.
>> You know,

856
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:50,640
» I don't
It's not It's at least two commissions

857
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,480
ago.
>> Oh, yeah. It's long time ago.

858
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:59,679
» It's a long time ago. And it's based on
it's based on dark sky. Uh

859
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:04,400
» and and so that when they wrote it
though, it just says no. It doesn't say

860
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:08,480
only a day or only a night.
>> And whether it's a battle we want to

861
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:12,080
find technology has improved to the
point now.

862
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:14,320
» Yeah. There's a lot of questions. So you
can get

863
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:18,719
» is that a fight?
>> Is that a fight we want to get into or

864
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:21,520
just have a nice concrete
>> sign?

865
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:25,120
» Yeah. Or do we? Yeah. So that I think
that's that.

866
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:30,320
» I would love it if we could if we could
do that where we could put more

867
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:33,280
information about flights on it and um
it would it would be great, but we'll

868
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:36,480
just have to keep going down that road
and see where it leads.

869
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:41,040
» Yeah.
Yep. All right. Uh

870
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:50,320
I think that's about it. Uh for the that
we do have an thing on here for

871
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:52,480
marketing. I think we covered that
pretty well.

872
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:57,120
» Yeah, Bill covered that really well.
>> Howard talked a little bit about that.

873
01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:02,239
» I think what Bill didn't mention is that
Melissa Jeffers, our economic

874
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:06,640
development director, is also um in that
loop now with that marketing money.

875
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:12,719
she's the one uh trying to combine it
with some other money so that we can

876
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:17,760
maybe magnify it. So yeah.
>> All right. Now who who uh I did have one

877
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:25,040
question that goes to marketing and that
has to do with u

878
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:31,040
who is who is the point for if we have a
newspaper article or a a construction

879
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:34,400
project that completed successfully or
you know we want to you know do an

880
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:39,120
entrance
>> who who is the point for getting that

881
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:43,520
» from now on it's me.
>> Okay. Jeffers

882
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:46,000
» and I'll work with Melissa
and uh

883
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,560
» for press releases and that kind of
thing.

884
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:53,440
» Yeah. Work with Howard and you know
we'll work with all the different

885
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:58,960
entities but uh the point person will be
from now on.

886
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:03,679
» Okay. Uh so we probably ought to do
something as far as contacting all the

887
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:07,679
press and tell telling them that
>> send a press release out oh about that

888
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:15,440
that they should be contacting me
directly. Well, okay. About marketing

889
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:20,080
things, we do have a PIO at the airport
now or not the airport, but at the

890
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:24,400
county, which is Melissa Jeffers. So,
she's the point person on on news items.

891
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,640
I I thought you were just talking about
the direct marketing dollars. And

892
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:31,440
» no, I'm talking about the press
releases.

893
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:34,480
» Press releases. We'll go through me, but
we'll go through Melissa.

894
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:39,920
» Okay.
>> Yeah. And so I'm just saying the press

895
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:43,280
needs to know all that. I've I've seen
some

896
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:47,120
» varying articles that have actually
disinformation in some of the articles

897
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:51,280
and that's a little bit concerning that
we don't get a

898
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:54,480
» that's not the fault of
the fault. I'm not going to call out the

899
01:12:53,360 --> 01:13:00,000
newspaper. I'll keep them.
>> No, that's okay. I'm just saying we need

900
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:02,640
to have a they need to know that hey the
we're going to release something they

901
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:06,080
feel what they said.
>> It should be it should be clear to

902
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:09,760
everybody at this time that our PIO is
Melissa Jeffers. At least all of the

903
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,920
media knows that for sure.
>> Okay.

904
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,920
Great.
>> Y

905
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:23,360
does everybody have anything else? Okay,
we're done. Call the meeting close at

906
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:26,400
5010.
Thanks everybody.

907
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,560
Wednesday.