All righty. I'll call the regular
meeting scheduled meeting for [sighs]
July 20th,
2026 to order.
Can I get a roll call?
Casey Coats
>> here.
>> Commissioner
Leard
>> present.
>> Peter Nicolas,
>> Commissioner North
>> here.
All stand. Say the pledge of
allegiance, please.
» Aliance to the flag of the United States
of America and to the republic for it
stands nation.
indivisible with liberty and justice for
all.
>> Thank you.
And Sabrina,
you've got a couple things for us today.
It looks like
one or two
or three or four more.
» Mr. Chairman and commissioners, am I
working? Try the other one.
>> Oh, it sounds like there it is.
>> There we go.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
commissioners. You know that you're
happy to see our smiling faces first on
your list. I'll let Brad start with us.
Uh his part is most of it and uh going
through the some changes and some
updates and any questions y'all have.
» Mr. Chairman, commissioners,
uh,
is it working?
>> Yep.
» I'll start with the, uh, adoption of the
NEC.
» Um, basically, we're just adopting the
new 2026 National Electrical Code.
Um,
there wasn't any significant
changes to mention in the actual
National Electro Code for 2026. Nothing
major. I mean, there's always some
changes, but uh, nothing to really talk
about or incur extra costs on the
citizens that I found.
Um in our resolution
we
basically
we added two amendments
were the two big changes to our
resolution. So the first one
we spelled out we've never allowed EMT
to be in the ground. We just clarified
it in in a in an amendment. Um, we had
somebody try to do it, so we thought
we'd better put it in. The code does
allow EMT in direct berry. U, we
consider the ground around here to be
corrosive, so we don't allow it.
>> No one uses it. Everybody uses PVC,
but we figured we had to put that in
there. The other one is, uh, for mobile
homes, uh, we've never allowed your
service to be mounted to a mobile home.
It's really confusing in the NEC, not
really nailed down. Um, so we wanted to
clarify that and define an actual mobile
home and state that yeah, you cannot
mount the service to a mobile home. You
can manufactured uh modular home, but
not a mobile home. And the mobile home
is defined as a
being built on a permanent steel
chassis. So, we basically just clarified
that.
Other than that it was just uh uh
atalysicis atalicizing
uh terms that are defined
um
I think that's about it.
Is there any questions on that?
Any questions?
>> Looks good. Next.
uh the attorney county contractor
licensing rules and regulations. So, the
last time this document was touched that
I could find was in 2020
um or uh 2000, I'm sorry, the um the
year 2000.
So, it's been 26 years since uh
anything's been changed in this
resolution. Uh we have been we have
implemented and previous building
officials have implemented different
contractor's licenses that we've offered
um past few years that's never been
nailed down in this resolution. So I
figured it was time we had to go through
it and just update it. Um,
the majority of the big changes in the
regs would be the new licenses that we
offer and a few different definitions of
licensing and just updating a lot of uh verbiage and getting everything in
line to the way we're actually operating
because um it was pretty outdated.
Um,
did anybody have any specific questions
or anything I need need to point out in
it?
Uh, so with these changes, are there
going to be any
changes to the document? Are there going
to be any changes to how you operate at
all?
>> No, sir.
>> Okay.
>> No. Um, it was basically getting the
contractor's licenses that we offer in
the resolution.
>> Oh, okay.
>> We've been offering new licenses for
different contractors for quite a while
now and it didn't reflect in the
resolution. So,
and chairman, if I may, a lot of what we
did in this was um I'm just trying to like
get what what they actually do on paper.
um because it was missing certain
things. We were also trying to define a
lot of the stuff um and that's pretty
much what we were doing. That was the
main focus.
>> Okay, sounds great. Thank you.
>> Hey Brad, on that on the contractor
licency
with the changes that came out of the
state as far as reciprocal
licenses and everything like that, and
this is more for the record so everybody
knows what's going on. Um,
how are we now within Nrona County and
with other counties as far as that that
portion of it goes?
>> As far as the recipro
the reciprocal law that the state um
requires. Now, uh we basically always
done it that way.
Um so there wasn't really any change
there. It is spelled out a little more
clear in our regulations now about that.
>> Um but really no change. We've al we've
always reciprocated licenses that we
felt were equal to what we require
within the state. So no real change but
clarified.
>> Okay. Well, like I said that basically
just so it would be on the record that was the case. Okay. Thanks.
Then we'll move on to
our permit fees. Now, we didn't change
any fees. We're still on the same fee
schedule that we've always been on. Um,
I think this was changed back
in 2020, if I remember right, is when uh
these fees went into effect. The big
thing was we've always charged a $25
application fee. It was never on this
document.
And then we added in the zoning
certificate fee and the temporary
dwelling permit fee that we've always
charged. It was just never spelled out
in our in our resolution, in our
document. So, it's basically getting
that on paper
that was never there or got missed.
So, the fees all just stayed the same.
» Any questions on the fees?
» Sounds good.
>> U Mr. chairman and commissioners. Also,
regarding fees for the planning
department, we uh did both of our fees
together uh because ours needed cleaned
up a bit on the planning and zoning
side. Uh some of the subdivisions that
uh the processes that we have were just
clumped under one and so it was really
difficult to see what it actually was
supposed to be charged. Another um place
that was clumped under was the
conditional use permit. And it looked
like if you needed a a conditional use
permit, then you had this fee. But if
you had a project and you didn't have a
conditional use, you could argue that
you didn't have to pay that fee just
because the way it was listed um
previously. So we kind of extrapolated
all that out. We did increase the fees
for the wind, like a wind farm and a
solar farm. Uh we
received we asked for and received
multiple counties from around the state
their permit fees. Uh we were fairly low
on those two projects. So we increased
those fees by $1,000. They were two we
went to 2,000 on that. And then uh the
other fee in the planning that we added
uh that I was asked about last year was
a utility and right-of-way permit. uh
Road and Bridge has this for county
property, but if uh so if fiber is going
through a property that is not county
property, there's essentially no permit.
Uh so we now have an application and a
permit fee if we want to implement that we can do that. And then uh kind of
a final CO on that is that the building
department will uh give the final CO and
say, "Yeah, you've put the uh property
back to where it should be." Uh we've
had some messes on the mountain. And
I've been aware of that where
contractors have not filled back in
appropriately. So that's one fee that's
on here as well. And it's just a $50 fee
and that's what road bridge charges. So
that's where we got that fee that uh
price from.
» Any questions on that?
» So So is that implementation of the
like the cable fee and stuff like that.
That's in I mean that's in here tonight.
So once we do that, we don't have to
worry about these contractors coming in
and just running rampant all over the
county and doing stuff without having to
come in and get get a permit to do so.
And then we have some ramifications
if they don't follow what they're
supposed to be doing.
Well, we have we have oversight now.
>> Yeah.
>> As far as
uh any repercussions. Um
that's kind of tough, but we do have
oversight and we can help with
but if they're if they're doing
something they're not supposed to, you
can suspend that permit.
>> Yes. So, so that gives us a little bit
of teeth in in what we're doing. And I
guess that's I know a lot of us have had
phone calls from different places all
over the county as far as some of these
companies going in and doing things and
it's like they didn't even get a permit.
How do they how are they doing this? And
so I think this is something that should
have been done a long time ago, but I'm glad we're moving forward getting
that taken care of.
goes.
>> Yeah, I just kind of want to jump on
that as well is I mean I think generally
it's important for people to understand
that the rightways with fiber and things
like that that I mean there's some layers above county
government, there's some federal
government, there's some FCC things that
allow those utilities to be installed.
There's very I guess some limits that
the county can put on and this is one of
those limit limiters that we can do. we
can say, you know, you have to do things
right or you or you don't get your
permits to to go in in place and this.
So, it's what we can do. I think it's
the appropriate step to take without
being a little bit too much or putting
too much on this on the planning and
building department to chase people all
over the county and inspect every hole.
But, I think this is one of those things
that you guys can target appropriately.
So, this is good. Thank you.
» I think we're good.
have one more document to cover is uh we
went through the contractor license fees
also
>> um and basically just updated a lot of
them and made them make a little more
sense. And the big thing too was is we
wanted to put all of our fees,
contractor fees, permit fees, planning
fees, all onto one resolution, a little
more organized and
easier to deal with.
But as far as the contractor license
fees go, uh there wasn't a lot of
change. Um it was just making a lot of
them make sense. Some of them got
lowered. Uh the main thing was we want
our initial fees to be twice as much as
our renewal fees.
Um,
we raised a few of the individual
license fees, uh, like the apprentice
license fees went from three to 10 just
to align more with, uh, uh, what other
jurisdictions are are charging,
but nothing real major on on fee changes
there either.
Commissioner Leard,
>> have we had any complaints?
>> No, sir.
» Well, if there's no complaints, it's
always a good thing. When fees get
raised, there's complaints.
>> Well, most of the fees actually um some
of them were reduced to match other
contractor fees that we that we do. Some
of them really didn't make sense, so we
basically matched them up. A lot of them
got dropped. A few of them got raised,
but the majority of them didn't change
at all.
» Any other questions?
» That was easy.
» Scheduled way too much for you guys.
>> Thought you're going to be more in
depth.
[laughter]
Normally she has way more for us.
» All righty.
This might be an interesting day then.
Moving on. Can you fill two hours up?
>> No. Sure. [laughter]
» 15 minutes.
Um, so we're still waiting on several of
the East End road easements. Uh, we
checked today. It looks like we're still
missing six of them. Um, so we're I know
we've talked to several people and
they're like we have some people that
are out of state and stuff. So, um, but
that's kind of where we're at with that
one. Uh, Bill Finger is still working on
that road vacation that we started. Um,
I know he was working on it last week.
I'm should be getting it here fairly
soon. Uh,
additionally, I'm working with the
health department. They're having some
issues with their opioid program stuff.
So, um, Anna and I are meeting tomorrow
to kind of go over that stuff um so I
can help her draft a letter um for them.
Uh, I'm also working with Sabrina
concerning Allenale. We're going to be
working on that memo on Wednesday. Uh
Allenale, the application's changing a
little bit. Um instead of being four
parcels, looks like they're going to
just make it into one large parcel. Um
but um we're waiting on the actual flat
um from
Paul, I believe, who's doing it. So once
we have that, then we can do that memo
that back in front of you you all. Um,
additionally, we received two uh ISD uh
dis disestablishments that we we're
working on. One is for Weak Creek, the
other one is Park East Ranchettes. So,
we're doing those letters uh to get that
process rolling. Um, a couple of those
kind of fell through the cracks on us a
little bit. Um, so the state was asking
if we had received them. I hadn't seen
it, but we're getting that remedied um
as quickly as we can given we have to
have so many notice for these people.
Uh additionally, I met with Dino Solar
County Fire Mills and Bar None last week
to discuss contracts. Um they're going
to send, you know, keep me updated on
how that's going, but it was a very
productive meeting. Um, you know, Dino
Solar is really wanting to try to make
sure that everyone has what they need
for that project. Um,
other than that, we're just kind of been
answering other departments questions
and just helping them out where we're
need.
We're still working on the animal
control act. Um, going through that
because we're going to do a whole that
act. There's a lot of pieces in it that
I don't think that we need anymore. Um,
and so we're going we're trying to do a
whole overhaul on that. So, it's going
to take a little bit of time, but we are
going to get it done. Um,
we're definitely going to get it done
before uh your term ends, chairman,
[laughter]
because I know that was a request. Uh,
>> you make it early.
>> That is true. [laughter]
>> Doubtful though.
>> Thank you. I appreciate you working on
that.
>> Any questions? Just one. Ashley, how are
title 25s going? Are we seeing a
increase in volume or are we holding
steady?
>> Right now, I think we're holding more
steady. Uh the month of May, we we saw a
huge uptick. Um since then, it's calmed
down. I just month of May, I think we
had a huge uptick, but lately it's been
a little bit more calmed down. Um,
and yeah, I think it's just I think that
was a one month off or weird month. We
still have a pretty steady stream. You
know, we have usually a a few every day.
Um, there's a couple days where we don't
we haven't had any, which is rare for
us, but yeah, it's seems to be holding a
little bit more steady.
Yep.
>> Any other questions?
This is ridiculous.
I was surprised when I saw that it was
starting at 3.
» All righty.
Is there any reason we need to go into
exec?
All right.
Okay. We're going going to uh recess.
Well, city just left.
>> Yeah, I know.
[laughter]
>> We'll go into recess, come back at uh
>> Yep.
that.
>> Wonderful.
It's paying for my gas making
times.
>> It's a nice shirt, fellas.
>> I like that shirt.
>> It's the only thing cool I could find.
It's kind of got that knit thing on the
back. Didn't even know I owned it. So,
you slept like fishing.
>> That looks snaky.
» That was good.
>> I was trying to feed you the
» Yes.
» Just leave that running. We'll
just point
Good. Yeah.
Wait.
When I have a plan, I have
a Pull it.
Yes. [laughter]
» I know, but I just
I was say
statute only requires us to have one
meeting.
>> Yeah,
>> we should go to that.
>> No.
>> Why not?
>> Because we never get anything done.
Just do it all in that one minute.
» Sure you can do that.
>> Huh?
>> Next year you can do that.
>> Maybe I could
do that. Thanks Ashley for
getting
Yeah, we Thanks Bri ahead maybe for
getting ahead of
>> Eric.
He's traveling.
>> Yeah, there he was. He's enjoying
retirement.
What are you doing back there?
» She was kind of in a hurry or I would
have stopped and said hi.
We kind of just
plowed on through the court building
there.
jump starter for 2,000 bucks.
All righty. You ready?
Okay, we're back in session.
So,
Approval of the consent agenda. Motion.
>> So moved to approve the consent agenda.
>> Moved and secondated. There's a
sorry
those in favor say I.
>> I.
>> Those
opposed say I. No. So there you go.
All proof. Any contracts agreements that
we need to take a look at at all that
snuck in?
Nope. Probably not.
Then we'll move on to public hearings.
All right. I now declare the public
hearing open for the consideration of
resolution 26-26 approval of FY2627
budget hearing will be conducted in
accordance with state statutes rules of
an intern commission and other equable
laws. [snorts]
May we have a report madame clerk.
>> Mr. Mr. Chairman, commissioners, resol
resolution 2626 is on the agenda for the
approval of the proposed budget for the
2026 2027 fiscal year ending June 30th,
2027 in the amount of 67,798,770.
This figure includes proposed budgets
for Nrona Countyy's compon component
entities which are the Nrona County
Library, City County Health Department,
Community Action Partnership and Nrona
County Fair. As shown, the FY27 budget
provides funding for mandated services,
pro provides for citizens health,
safety, and welfare,
implemented salary recommendations from
a comprehensive compensation and
classification study, and provides
funding for various 1 cent number 17
projects. All publication requirements
have been met. And with that, I will
stand for any questions.
>> Any questions for the Madame Clerk?
She has to stand.
» Anywh who all right
being none from the board at this time
I'd ask those individuals who wish to
speak in favor of consideration of
resolution 26-26
approval of the FY 2627 budget to
approach the lectern.
There is an election. The table
election. Whatever. It's good. We'll use
the table tonight.
» I can move it.
>> It's fine for right now.
>> Fix it.
>> Second call for those in favor of
resolution 2626.
[clears throat] Approval of FY 2627
budget. Approach the table.
And last, those who wish to speak in
favor of consideration resolution 26-26,
approval of FY26-27
budget approach the table.
And at this time, I'd ask those
individuals who wish to speak in
opposition of consideration of
resolution 26-26
approval of the FY26-27
budget to approach the table.
At this time, I'd ask those
individuals who wish to speak in
opposition of consideration of
resolution 26-26,
approval of the FY26-27
budget to approach the table.
Last call. Those that wish to speak in
opposition of consideration of
resolution 26-26,
approval of the FY26-27
budget approach.
and no one to speak for or against
consideration of resolution 2-26
approval of the FY26-27
budget. I now declare the public hearing
closed.
Do I have a motion?
>> Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to approve
resolution 2626
approval of the FY 2627 budget. Second.
>> Got a motion, a second. Discussion.
No discussion. All those in favor say I.
>> I.
>> Those opposed.
>> You say I, Dave,
>> I didn't say anything.
>> Exactly.
>> Are you abstaining?
>> No, I'm going to say I
>> Okay, I suppose say I and the budget
resolution passes.
on to the next.
Right.
I'm going to try to read this as fast as
I can, but there's just so much I can
do.
I now declare the public hearing open
for a consideration of
20 26 NEC code adoption. Can I just do
this all in one? I
>> think you can,
>> Madam Clerk.
>> They're all the same thing.
>> It's all What do you think,
» Mr. Chair? And if the county attorney
disagrees, I would say if you refer to
them B through F, um, you know, pointing
them out as they're listed on the
agenda, I think it would be okay.
>> I think it's fine if we do them all
together,
>> unless there's an objection to one or
something like that. Yeah, unless
someone in the public has specific, they
can just refer to one of the specific
ones.
>> Okay, so that's what we're going to do.
Holy cow.
Okay, [laughter] this is what we're
going to do then. Now declare the public
hearing open for consideration of the
public hearings B through F 2026 NEC
code adoption. Building department
contractor licensing rules and
regulations. Building department
contractor license fee schedule.
Building department permit fee schedule.
Planning department fee schedule. The
hearing be conducted in accordance with
state statutes rules of Nona County
Commission and other applicable laws.
May we have a report from staff.
just the bullet point since you already
reviewed it this morning or afternoon.
» Mr. Chairman and commissioners, I have
nothing to add from this afternoon
unless you have any questions. Uh stands
as reviewed earlier and
>> just give kind of a bullet point thing
real quick. Um, so the updates are for
the building, uh, mostly the building
department and the contractor's
licenses, um, some fees, and then
updating what we found hadn't been
updated from until or since, uh, 2000.
Uh, so for 26 years, we're kind of
running under the same regulations. So
really just updated how we're actually
working and functioning, uh, right now.
Um and then adding the fees that we had
already been uh charging for many years.
Uh make sure they are listed out on our
fee schedules. Uh same for the planning
department
>> and the 2026 NAC code adoption. That's
just updating it to current. And then
the two amendments were what?
>> Correct. On the updates on that and I'm
going to defer to Brad for amendments.
Mr. Chairman, commissioners, the two
amendments, uh, one of them was,
uh, to clarify
that EMT is not allowed to use glow
grade. And the other one was to
>> Did you speak up? I didn't hear what you
just said.
[clears throat] It was to clarify that
uh electrical metallic tubing
EMT is not allowed to be used below
grade underground.
And then the second amendment was to
clarify mobile homes from manufactured
homes and that you cannot uh attach the
electrical service to a mobile home.
>> All righty. Any questions on any of this
from staff?
Okay. Thank you, Seth.
Okay. At this time, I would ask those
individuals who wish to speak in favor
of consideration
of agenda 7 or 8, part B through F,
2026, NEC code adoption, building
department contractor license rules,
regulations, building department
contractor license fee schedule,
building department permit fee schedule,
and planning department fee schedule to
approach the table.
I'm only going to say that once.
Reach these. At this time, I'd ask those
individuals who wish to speak in favor
of consideration of section 8 B through
F of today's agenda approach the table.
At this time, I'd ask those individuals
who wish to speak in favor of
consideration
of section 8 B through F of today's
agenda approach the table.
Seeing none, at this time I would ask
those individuals who wish to speak in
opposition in consideration of section 8
B through F
to approach the table.
At this time, I'd ask those individuals
who wish to speak in obsation of
consideration of section 8 B through F
of today's agenda approach table. And
last time at this time I'd ask those
individuals who wish to speak in
obsession and consideration of section 8
B through F which is the 2026 NEC code
adoption building department contractor
licensing rules and regulations.
Building department contract please
license fee schedule building department
permit fee schedule planning department
fee schedule approach table.
There being no one to speak for against
consideration of section 8 B through F
to
that approach the election. I declare
the public hearing closed. [snorts]
Do I have a motion?
>> Mr. Chairman, I would make a motion that
we approve section 8 B through F. Um
I don't believe we need to read those
out individually. specific one time
otherwise. Yes.
>> Okay. All right. The 2026 NEC code
adoption, building department contractor
licensing rules and regulations,
building department contractor license
fee schedule, building department permit
fee schedule, and planning department
fee schedule.
» Have a motion and a second. Those in
favor say I.
>> Those opposed.
Pass. There you go.
We move on to public comments.
Anybody wish to speak?
You get to sit down for a public
comment. This
>> Well, that's why we have chair there for
you, sir.
>> Five up there on the timer.
>> Better start that.
>> No, I just wanted to thank you for
consideration of the comp study and the
implementation of it. Uh, thank the
people that worked on that, Tracy. uh
Danielle and others. Uh I know it's a
difficult thing to consider particularly
into the future, but I hope it
continues. Uh it uh it's a real morale
booster and it's going to help a lot of
people. So I appreciate it.
>> Thank you.
>> Thanks.
>> Employees are our most valuable asset by
the way in my
>> I agree.
Thanks, Mike.
>> Any further public comment?
» Commissioner's comments. Dave,
» the governor's was governor's cup was
held up at the Suckenoff this last
weekend uh along with the outdoor wreck
um symposium that they had downtown.
Other than being very warm, there was a
lot of people that showed up. Um they
had approximately 300 different
participants in the shoot itself, which
is always good. That's about the same as
what they had last year. Um it's a great
event. It
really puts Casper on the map for a lot
of the shooting sports and things like
that. And it was just a it was a good
event. And I always enjoy going out
there. I don't participate in the
shooting part of it, but uh generally
speaking, but I do do enjoy being out
there watching.
» I've been invited to go down to Cheyenne
and view some data centers. They have
six of them. And uh couple of the people
that I know very well that are highly
educated in data center law and the
issues that attend a data center. So, I
want to find that out because I know
there's a
possible request going to show up
wanting to put a data center in this
county. I don't know when exactly. I've
talked to the people though about it.
And uh they tell me they have it located
in a place where it won't bother
neighbors or upset people. Um, so I need
to find out some things about water and
electricity and gas and how it all runs
and what any costs may be to taxpayers,
which they say are none. And they say
that if they get it running the way they
perceive it, it would mean a hundred
million dollars a year in taxes to
Atrona County, which if we got that, we
would be flush.
So, I want to go down and find out if
this is true and if that if if it's uh
going to happen maybe and uh just to
find out more information because a lot
of people don't even understand what a
data center is. But if you watch Netflix
comes through a data center if you have
a credit card and you pay it comes
through a data center. So, uh and then
all the AI is going to start coming
through a data center.
So, it's something that's happening now.
It's the current state-of-the-art. And
if they're going to provide 600 jobs in
Casper, Wyoming, and I'd say that's a
plus. If we're going to get unbelievable
taxes, I'd say that's a plus. But I want
to find out uh what the possibility of
all that is so that I can then report it
to the commissioners and the public here
in the Trona County. And I can only tell
you one other thing. It's really hot out
there.
» Sure goes.
>> Just have a couple things. Yeah, it's
really hot. It's really, really dry. So,
fire danger is up. So, please be extra
cautious. Um, family and I took a little
trip and there were fires all over the
Northwest. It was kind of kind of scary
coming back and seeing the 100 plus
degree heat.
Um, the other thing that I on our trip.
That was really nice and kind of
reminded me of um I guess a simpler time
here. It was really nice in northern
Idaho not seeing a gambling joint in
every corner. I really enjoyed that. So
just something to I guess ponder as we move forward as a community and um
guess on the I guess data center issue
and doing a lot of reading on data
centers and the rise of AI and it it
worries me a little bit. um just because
I think there is a
possibility out there that we over rely
on AI and don't educate ourselves
enough. And I would really hate to see
the day where we have people sitting in
elected seats that were making all of
their decisions based on AI. So I think
we need to be really careful and really
cautious with how much trust we put into
AI and how much um
we use it as a tool although there are
appropriate times and places for it.
Thank you.
So it's it's almost a month
and a lot of things get decided here in
Wyoming.
Um,
I hope
that
the that people become educated on on
what is going on in the state of Wyoming
right now.
Um,
voting starts tomorrow
for absentee. [snorts]
A lot can happen between now and a
month. scandals, people bailing out
this, that, or another thing.
If you don't have to vote absentee,
I highly
just suggest you don't know what's going
to happen till it happens. Vote on the
day of.
There's too many things that can can
happen. But on the long of it, I missed
the the governor shoot. I was
suffocating a couple of fish in the air.
So, but they were pretty tasty. Um,
as far as the AI and the data centers, I agree um need to be educated. The the
everybody should be educated. The style
of uh data center that is being
looked at being to be put ina is a
little different than others in the
state that are in operation.
Uh we need to focus on what benefits are
as well as the detractors of and
determine
whether we want to go down that alley or
not.
Now the one thing that uh is concerning
I have heard from different
oh entrepreneurs or whatever is that
it appears that Nitrona doesn't want to
grow and Nrona doesn't want to develop
anything.
Um that that is very concerning for the
future of Nona.
So we need to be very mindful of what we
decide to do.
moving forward. As far as AI, I'm not
I'm as concerned as Casey is about uh
politicians
following AI advice, but what the hell?
They already follow social media advice,
so I don't know about which is worse.
Um, with that, we're journed.