[0:14] All righty. I'll call the regular
[0:16] meeting scheduled meeting for [sighs]
[0:19] July 20th,
[0:22] 2026 to order.
[0:25] Can I get a roll call?
[0:28] Casey Coats
[0:29] >> here.
[0:30] >> Commissioner
[0:32] Leard
[0:33] >> present.
[0:33] >> Peter Nicolas,
[0:36] >> Commissioner North
[0:38] >> here.
[0:39] All stand. Say the pledge of
[0:42] allegiance, please.
[0:49] » Aliance to the flag of the United States
[0:52] of America and to the republic for it
[0:54] stands nation.
[0:57] indivisible with liberty and justice for
[1:00] all.
[1:02] >> Thank you.
[1:06] And Sabrina,
[1:10] you've got a couple things for us today.
[1:12] It looks like
[1:13] one or two
[1:16] or three or four more.
[1:24] » Mr. Chairman and commissioners, am I
[1:26] working? Try the other one.
[1:29] >> Oh, it sounds like there it is.
[1:30] >> There we go.
[1:31] >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
[1:32] commissioners. You know that you're
[1:33] happy to see our smiling faces first on
[1:36] your list. I'll let Brad start with us.
[1:40] Uh his part is most of it and uh going
[1:43] through the some changes and some
[1:45] updates and any questions y'all have.
[1:52] » Mr. Chairman, commissioners,
[1:55] uh,
[1:57] is it working?
[1:58] >> Yep.
[2:01] » I'll start with the, uh, adoption of the
[2:04] NEC.
[2:07] » Um, basically, we're just adopting the
[2:10] new 2026 National Electrical Code.
[2:15] Um,
[2:20] there wasn't any significant
[2:22] changes to mention in the actual
[2:25] National Electro Code for 2026. Nothing
[2:28] major. I mean, there's always some
[2:30] changes, but uh, nothing to really talk
[2:33] about or incur extra costs on the
[2:36] citizens that I found.
[2:40] Um in our resolution
[2:44] we
[2:46] basically
[2:50] we added two amendments
[2:53] were the two big changes to our
[2:55] resolution. So the first one
[2:58] we spelled out we've never allowed EMT
[3:01] to be in the ground. We just clarified
[3:04] it in in a in an amendment. Um, we had
[3:07] somebody try to do it, so we thought
[3:09] we'd better put it in. The code does
[3:11] allow EMT in direct berry. U, we
[3:15] consider the ground around here to be
[3:17] corrosive, so we don't allow it.
[3:21] >> No one uses it. Everybody uses PVC,
[3:24] but we figured we had to put that in
[3:26] there. The other one is, uh, for mobile
[3:28] homes, uh, we've never allowed your
[3:31] service to be mounted to a mobile home.
[3:33] It's really confusing in the NEC, not
[3:37] really nailed down. Um, so we wanted to
[3:40] clarify that and define an actual mobile
[3:43] home and state that yeah, you cannot
[3:46] mount the service to a mobile home. You
[3:48] can manufactured uh modular home, but
[3:50] not a mobile home. And the mobile home
[3:53] is defined as a
[3:56] being built on a permanent steel
[3:57] chassis. So, we basically just clarified
[4:00] that.
[4:01] Other than that it was just uh uh
[4:04] atalysicis atalicizing
[4:08] uh terms that are defined
[4:11] um
[4:15] I think that's about it.
[4:18] Is there any questions on that?
[4:22] Any questions?
[4:24] >> Looks good. Next.
[4:29] uh the attorney county contractor
[4:33] licensing rules and regulations. So, the
[4:36] last time this document was touched that
[4:38] I could find was in 2020
[4:41] um or uh 2000, I'm sorry, the um the
[4:45] year 2000.
[4:48] So, it's been 26 years since uh
[4:50] anything's been changed in this
[4:52] resolution. Uh we have been we have
[4:55] implemented and previous building
[4:56] officials have implemented different
[4:58] contractor's licenses that we've offered
[5:01] um past few years that's never been
[5:03] nailed down in this resolution. So I
[5:05] figured it was time we had to go through
[5:07] it and just update it. Um,
[5:12] the majority of the big changes in the
[5:14] regs would be the new licenses that we
[5:17] offer and a few different definitions of
[5:20] licensing and just updating a lot of uh verbiage and getting everything in
[5:26] line to the way we're actually operating
[5:28] because um it was pretty outdated.
[5:34] Um,
[5:36] did anybody have any specific questions
[5:38] or anything I need need to point out in
[5:41] it?
[5:46] Uh, so with these changes, are there
[5:48] going to be any
[5:52] changes to the document? Are there going
[5:54] to be any changes to how you operate at
[5:56] all?
[5:57] >> No, sir.
[5:58] >> Okay.
[5:59] >> No. Um, it was basically getting the
[6:02] contractor's licenses that we offer in
[6:05] the resolution.
[6:06] >> Oh, okay.
[6:09] >> We've been offering new licenses for
[6:12] different contractors for quite a while
[6:13] now and it didn't reflect in the
[6:16] resolution. So,
[6:18] and chairman, if I may, a lot of what we
[6:21] did in this was um I'm just trying to like
[6:26] get what what they actually do on paper.
[6:29] um because it was missing certain
[6:31] things. We were also trying to define a
[6:33] lot of the stuff um and that's pretty
[6:36] much what we were doing. That was the
[6:37] main focus.
[6:38] >> Okay, sounds great. Thank you.
[6:43] >> Hey Brad, on that on the contractor
[6:45] licency
[6:46] with the changes that came out of the
[6:48] state as far as reciprocal
[6:51] licenses and everything like that, and
[6:53] this is more for the record so everybody
[6:55] knows what's going on. Um,
[6:59] how are we now within Nrona County and
[7:02] with other counties as far as that that
[7:05] portion of it goes?
[7:07] >> As far as the recipro
[7:10] the reciprocal law that the state um
[7:13] requires. Now, uh we basically always
[7:18] done it that way.
[7:21] Um so there wasn't really any change
[7:23] there. It is spelled out a little more
[7:25] clear in our regulations now about that.
[7:28] >> Um but really no change. We've al we've
[7:31] always reciprocated licenses that we
[7:33] felt were equal to what we require
[7:37] within the state. So no real change but
[7:42] clarified.
[7:43] >> Okay. Well, like I said that basically
[7:46] just so it would be on the record that was the case. Okay. Thanks.
[8:02] Then we'll move on to
[8:07] our permit fees. Now, we didn't change
[8:10] any fees. We're still on the same fee
[8:14] schedule that we've always been on. Um,
[8:16] I think this was changed back
[8:19] in 2020, if I remember right, is when uh
[8:23] these fees went into effect. The big
[8:25] thing was we've always charged a $25
[8:28] application fee. It was never on this
[8:30] document.
[8:32] And then we added in the zoning
[8:34] certificate fee and the temporary
[8:36] dwelling permit fee that we've always
[8:38] charged. It was just never spelled out
[8:40] in our in our resolution, in our
[8:43] document. So, it's basically getting
[8:46] that on paper
[8:48] that was never there or got missed.
[8:52] So, the fees all just stayed the same.
[8:58] » Any questions on the fees?
[9:03] » Sounds good.
[9:05] >> U Mr. chairman and commissioners. Also,
[9:06] regarding fees for the planning
[9:08] department, we uh did both of our fees
[9:11] together uh because ours needed cleaned
[9:13] up a bit on the planning and zoning
[9:15] side. Uh some of the subdivisions that
[9:19] uh the processes that we have were just
[9:22] clumped under one and so it was really
[9:24] difficult to see what it actually was
[9:27] supposed to be charged. Another um place
[9:30] that was clumped under was the
[9:31] conditional use permit. And it looked
[9:33] like if you needed a a conditional use
[9:36] permit, then you had this fee. But if
[9:40] you had a project and you didn't have a
[9:42] conditional use, you could argue that
[9:44] you didn't have to pay that fee just
[9:45] because the way it was listed um
[9:48] previously. So we kind of extrapolated
[9:49] all that out. We did increase the fees
[9:52] for the wind, like a wind farm and a
[9:54] solar farm. Uh we
[9:57] received we asked for and received
[10:00] multiple counties from around the state
[10:02] their permit fees. Uh we were fairly low
[10:05] on those two projects. So we increased
[10:07] those fees by $1,000. They were two we
[10:10] went to 2,000 on that. And then uh the
[10:15] other fee in the planning that we added
[10:18] uh that I was asked about last year was
[10:20] a utility and right-of-way permit. uh
[10:23] Road and Bridge has this for county
[10:25] property, but if uh so if fiber is going
[10:28] through a property that is not county
[10:31] property, there's essentially no permit.
[10:33] Uh so we now have an application and a
[10:35] permit fee if we want to implement that we can do that. And then uh kind of
[10:39] a final CO on that is that the building
[10:42] department will uh give the final CO and
[10:45] say, "Yeah, you've put the uh property
[10:47] back to where it should be." Uh we've
[10:48] had some messes on the mountain. And
[10:50] I've been aware of that where
[10:52] contractors have not filled back in
[10:56] appropriately. So that's one fee that's
[10:58] on here as well. And it's just a $50 fee
[11:00] and that's what road bridge charges. So
[11:02] that's where we got that fee that uh
[11:04] price from.
[11:09] » Any questions on that?
[11:16] » So So is that implementation of the
[11:20] like the cable fee and stuff like that.
[11:22] That's in I mean that's in here tonight.
[11:26] So once we do that, we don't have to
[11:28] worry about these contractors coming in
[11:30] and just running rampant all over the
[11:32] county and doing stuff without having to
[11:35] come in and get get a permit to do so.
[11:38] And then we have some ramifications
[11:40] if they don't follow what they're
[11:43] supposed to be doing.
[11:46] Well, we have we have oversight now.
[11:49] >> Yeah.
[11:50] >> As far as
[11:53] uh any repercussions. Um
[11:58] that's kind of tough, but we do have
[12:00] oversight and we can help with
[12:05] but if they're if they're doing
[12:06] something they're not supposed to, you
[12:08] can suspend that permit.
[12:10] >> Yes. So, so that gives us a little bit
[12:14] of teeth in in what we're doing. And I
[12:16] guess that's I know a lot of us have had
[12:21] phone calls from different places all
[12:23] over the county as far as some of these
[12:27] companies going in and doing things and
[12:29] it's like they didn't even get a permit.
[12:30] How do they how are they doing this? And
[12:32] so I think this is something that should
[12:35] have been done a long time ago, but I'm glad we're moving forward getting
[12:38] that taken care of.
[12:41] goes.
[12:41] >> Yeah, I just kind of want to jump on
[12:43] that as well is I mean I think generally
[12:46] it's important for people to understand
[12:47] that the rightways with fiber and things
[12:50] like that that I mean there's some layers above county
[12:54] government, there's some federal
[12:55] government, there's some FCC things that
[12:57] allow those utilities to be installed.
[13:00] There's very I guess some limits that
[13:03] the county can put on and this is one of
[13:04] those limit limiters that we can do. we
[13:06] can say, you know, you have to do things
[13:07] right or you or you don't get your
[13:08] permits to to go in in place and this.
[13:11] So, it's what we can do. I think it's
[13:13] the appropriate step to take without
[13:14] being a little bit too much or putting
[13:16] too much on this on the planning and
[13:18] building department to chase people all
[13:20] over the county and inspect every hole.
[13:22] But, I think this is one of those things
[13:23] that you guys can target appropriately.
[13:25] So, this is good. Thank you.
[13:32] » I think we're good.
[13:37] have one more document to cover is uh we
[13:40] went through the contractor license fees
[13:42] also
[13:44] >> um and basically just updated a lot of
[13:47] them and made them make a little more
[13:49] sense. And the big thing too was is we
[13:51] wanted to put all of our fees,
[13:53] contractor fees, permit fees, planning
[13:56] fees, all onto one resolution, a little
[13:59] more organized and
[14:02] easier to deal with.
[14:04] But as far as the contractor license
[14:06] fees go, uh there wasn't a lot of
[14:08] change. Um it was just making a lot of
[14:11] them make sense. Some of them got
[14:13] lowered. Uh the main thing was we want
[14:15] our initial fees to be twice as much as
[14:17] our renewal fees.
[14:20] Um,
[14:21] we raised a few of the individual
[14:23] license fees, uh, like the apprentice
[14:27] license fees went from three to 10 just
[14:30] to align more with, uh, uh, what other
[14:34] jurisdictions are are charging,
[14:39] but nothing real major on on fee changes
[14:42] there either.
[14:45] Commissioner Leard,
[14:47] >> have we had any complaints?
[14:49] >> No, sir.
[14:53] » Well, if there's no complaints, it's
[14:55] always a good thing. When fees get
[14:57] raised, there's complaints.
[14:58] >> Well, most of the fees actually um some
[15:02] of them were reduced to match other
[15:05] contractor fees that we that we do. Some
[15:08] of them really didn't make sense, so we
[15:09] basically matched them up. A lot of them
[15:11] got dropped. A few of them got raised,
[15:14] but the majority of them didn't change
[15:16] at all.
[15:20] » Any other questions?
[15:25] » That was easy.
[15:29] » Scheduled way too much for you guys.
[15:33] >> Thought you're going to be more in
[15:34] depth.
[15:37] [laughter]
[15:40] Normally she has way more for us.
[15:53] » All righty.
[15:55] This might be an interesting day then.
[15:58] Moving on. Can you fill two hours up?
[16:01] >> No. Sure. [laughter]
[16:07] » 15 minutes.
[16:10] Um, so we're still waiting on several of
[16:12] the East End road easements. Uh, we
[16:14] checked today. It looks like we're still
[16:16] missing six of them. Um, so we're I know
[16:19] we've talked to several people and
[16:21] they're like we have some people that
[16:23] are out of state and stuff. So, um, but
[16:26] that's kind of where we're at with that
[16:27] one. Uh, Bill Finger is still working on
[16:30] that road vacation that we started. Um,
[16:33] I know he was working on it last week.
[16:36] I'm should be getting it here fairly
[16:37] soon. Uh,
[16:40] additionally, I'm working with the
[16:41] health department. They're having some
[16:42] issues with their opioid program stuff.
[16:45] So, um, Anna and I are meeting tomorrow
[16:49] to kind of go over that stuff um so I
[16:52] can help her draft a letter um for them.
[16:56] Uh, I'm also working with Sabrina
[16:58] concerning Allenale. We're going to be
[17:00] working on that memo on Wednesday. Uh
[17:03] Allenale, the application's changing a
[17:05] little bit. Um instead of being four
[17:07] parcels, looks like they're going to
[17:08] just make it into one large parcel. Um
[17:12] but um we're waiting on the actual flat
[17:16] um from
[17:20] Paul, I believe, who's doing it. So once
[17:23] we have that, then we can do that memo
[17:25] that back in front of you you all. Um,
[17:30] additionally, we received two uh ISD uh
[17:34] dis disestablishments that we we're
[17:36] working on. One is for Weak Creek, the
[17:39] other one is Park East Ranchettes. So,
[17:41] we're doing those letters uh to get that
[17:44] process rolling. Um, a couple of those
[17:46] kind of fell through the cracks on us a
[17:48] little bit. Um, so the state was asking
[17:50] if we had received them. I hadn't seen
[17:52] it, but we're getting that remedied um
[17:55] as quickly as we can given we have to
[17:57] have so many notice for these people.
[18:01] Uh additionally, I met with Dino Solar
[18:05] County Fire Mills and Bar None last week
[18:08] to discuss contracts. Um they're going
[18:11] to send, you know, keep me updated on
[18:14] how that's going, but it was a very
[18:16] productive meeting. Um, you know, Dino
[18:18] Solar is really wanting to try to make
[18:20] sure that everyone has what they need
[18:22] for that project. Um,
[18:25] other than that, we're just kind of been
[18:27] answering other departments questions
[18:29] and just helping them out where we're
[18:31] need.
[18:34] We're still working on the animal
[18:35] control act. Um, going through that
[18:38] because we're going to do a whole that
[18:40] act. There's a lot of pieces in it that
[18:42] I don't think that we need anymore. Um,
[18:44] and so we're going we're trying to do a
[18:46] whole overhaul on that. So, it's going
[18:48] to take a little bit of time, but we are
[18:49] going to get it done. Um,
[18:51] we're definitely going to get it done
[18:52] before uh your term ends, chairman,
[18:57] [laughter]
[18:58] because I know that was a request. Uh,
[19:00] >> you make it early.
[19:04] >> That is true. [laughter]
[19:06] >> Doubtful though.
[19:08] >> Thank you. I appreciate you working on
[19:10] that.
[19:10] >> Any questions? Just one. Ashley, how are
[19:15] title 25s going? Are we seeing a
[19:17] increase in volume or are we holding
[19:20] steady?
[19:20] >> Right now, I think we're holding more
[19:22] steady. Uh the month of May, we we saw a
[19:25] huge uptick. Um since then, it's calmed
[19:28] down. I just month of May, I think we
[19:31] had a huge uptick, but lately it's been
[19:34] a little bit more calmed down. Um,
[19:38] and yeah, I think it's just I think that
[19:41] was a one month off or weird month. We
[19:43] still have a pretty steady stream. You
[19:45] know, we have usually a a few every day.
[19:49] Um, there's a couple days where we don't
[19:50] we haven't had any, which is rare for
[19:52] us, but yeah, it's seems to be holding a
[19:56] little bit more steady.
[19:58] Yep.
[19:59] >> Any other questions?
[20:03] This is ridiculous.
[20:09] I was surprised when I saw that it was
[20:11] starting at 3.
[20:16] » All righty.
[20:18] Is there any reason we need to go into
[20:20] exec?
[20:29] All right.
[20:30] Okay. We're going going to uh recess.
[20:35] Well, city just left.
[20:37] >> Yeah, I know.
[20:40] [laughter]
[20:42] >> We'll go into recess, come back at uh
[20:47] >> Yep.
[20:48] that.
[20:49] >> Wonderful.
[20:51] It's paying for my gas making
[20:54] times.
[20:54] >> It's a nice shirt, fellas.
[20:56] >> I like that shirt.
[20:57] >> It's the only thing cool I could find.
[20:59] It's kind of got that knit thing on the
[21:01] back. Didn't even know I owned it. So,
[21:04] you slept like fishing.
[21:06] >> That looks snaky.
[21:11] » That was good.
[21:13] >> I was trying to feed you the
[21:24] » Yes.
[21:30] » Just leave that running. We'll
[21:43] just point
[22:13] Good. Yeah.
[2:07:53] Wait.
[2:18:45] When I have a plan, I have
[2:19:02] a Pull it.
[2:27:28] Yes. [laughter]
[2:27:47] » I know, but I just
[2:27:53] I was say
[2:28:08] statute only requires us to have one
[2:28:10] meeting.
[2:28:11] >> Yeah,
[2:28:12] >> we should go to that.
[2:28:14] >> No.
[2:28:15] >> Why not?
[2:28:15] >> Because we never get anything done.
[2:28:24] Just do it all in that one minute.
[2:28:30] » Sure you can do that.
[2:28:32] >> Huh?
[2:28:32] >> Next year you can do that.
[2:28:34] >> Maybe I could
[2:28:36] do that. Thanks Ashley for
[2:28:42] getting
[2:28:43] Yeah, we Thanks Bri ahead maybe for
[2:28:46] getting ahead of
[2:28:48] >> Eric.
[2:29:18] He's traveling.
[2:29:19] >> Yeah, there he was. He's enjoying
[2:29:22] retirement.
[2:29:34] What are you doing back there?
[2:29:39] » She was kind of in a hurry or I would
[2:29:41] have stopped and said hi.
[2:29:46] We kind of just
[2:29:48] plowed on through the court building
[2:29:50] there.
[2:29:57] jump starter for 2,000 bucks.
[2:30:55] All righty. You ready?
[2:31:02] Okay, we're back in session.
[2:31:06] So,
[2:31:09] Approval of the consent agenda. Motion.
[2:31:13] >> So moved to approve the consent agenda.
[2:31:17] >> Moved and secondated. There's a
[2:31:23] sorry
[2:31:27] those in favor say I.
[2:31:29] >> I.
[2:31:32] >> Those
[2:31:33] opposed say I. No. So there you go.
[2:31:38] All proof. Any contracts agreements that
[2:31:41] we need to take a look at at all that
[2:31:42] snuck in?
[2:31:45] Nope. Probably not.
[2:31:49] Then we'll move on to public hearings.
[2:31:57] All right. I now declare the public
[2:31:59] hearing open for the consideration of
[2:32:01] resolution 26-26 approval of FY2627
[2:32:05] budget hearing will be conducted in
[2:32:07] accordance with state statutes rules of
[2:32:09] an intern commission and other equable
[2:32:11] laws. [snorts]
[2:32:13] May we have a report madame clerk.
[2:32:15] >> Mr. Mr. Chairman, commissioners, resol
[2:32:17] resolution 2626 is on the agenda for the
[2:32:20] approval of the proposed budget for the
[2:32:23] 2026 2027 fiscal year ending June 30th,
[2:32:26] 2027 in the amount of 67,798,770.
[2:32:34] This figure includes proposed budgets
[2:32:37] for Nrona Countyy's compon component
[2:32:39] entities which are the Nrona County
[2:32:41] Library, City County Health Department,
[2:32:43] Community Action Partnership and Nrona
[2:32:46] County Fair. As shown, the FY27 budget
[2:32:50] provides funding for mandated services,
[2:32:53] pro provides for citizens health,
[2:32:55] safety, and welfare,
[2:32:57] implemented salary recommendations from
[2:32:59] a comprehensive compensation and
[2:33:01] classification study, and provides
[2:33:04] funding for various 1 cent number 17
[2:33:07] projects. All publication requirements
[2:33:09] have been met. And with that, I will
[2:33:11] stand for any questions.
[2:33:13] >> Any questions for the Madame Clerk?
[2:33:17] She has to stand.
[2:33:22] » Anywh who all right
[2:33:26] being none from the board at this time
[2:33:28] I'd ask those individuals who wish to
[2:33:31] speak in favor of consideration of
[2:33:32] resolution 26-26
[2:33:35] approval of the FY 2627 budget to
[2:33:39] approach the lectern.
[2:33:43] There is an election. The table
[2:33:45] election. Whatever. It's good. We'll use
[2:33:48] the table tonight.
[2:33:52] » I can move it.
[2:33:54] >> It's fine for right now.
[2:33:55] >> Fix it.
[2:33:56] >> Second call for those in favor of
[2:33:58] resolution 2626.
[2:34:00] [clears throat] Approval of FY 2627
[2:34:02] budget. Approach the table.
[2:34:06] And last, those who wish to speak in
[2:34:09] favor of consideration resolution 26-26,
[2:34:12] approval of FY26-27
[2:34:14] budget approach the table.
[2:34:18] And at this time, I'd ask those
[2:34:19] individuals who wish to speak in
[2:34:21] opposition of consideration of
[2:34:22] resolution 26-26
[2:34:25] approval of the FY26-27
[2:34:27] budget to approach the table.
[2:34:31] At this time, I'd ask those
[2:34:34] individuals who wish to speak in
[2:34:35] opposition of consideration of
[2:34:37] resolution 26-26,
[2:34:39] approval of the FY26-27
[2:34:42] budget to approach the table.
[2:34:45] Last call. Those that wish to speak in
[2:34:48] opposition of consideration of
[2:34:50] resolution 26-26,
[2:34:52] approval of the FY26-27
[2:34:55] budget approach.
[2:34:58] and no one to speak for or against
[2:35:01] consideration of resolution 2-26
[2:35:04] approval of the FY26-27
[2:35:07] budget. I now declare the public hearing
[2:35:10] closed.
[2:35:12] Do I have a motion?
[2:35:13] >> Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to approve
[2:35:15] resolution 2626
[2:35:17] approval of the FY 2627 budget. Second.
[2:35:21] >> Got a motion, a second. Discussion.
[2:35:25] No discussion. All those in favor say I.
[2:35:28] >> I.
[2:35:29] >> Those opposed.
[2:35:32] >> You say I, Dave,
[2:35:33] >> I didn't say anything.
[2:35:34] >> Exactly.
[2:35:37] >> Are you abstaining?
[2:35:39] >> No, I'm going to say I
[2:35:41] >> Okay, I suppose say I and the budget
[2:35:45] resolution passes.
[2:35:48] on to the next.
[2:35:54] Right.
[2:35:59] I'm going to try to read this as fast as
[2:36:01] I can, but there's just so much I can
[2:36:04] do.
[2:36:06] I now declare the public hearing open
[2:36:08] for a consideration of
[2:36:11] 20 26 NEC code adoption. Can I just do
[2:36:15] this all in one? I
[2:36:17] >> think you can,
[2:36:18] >> Madam Clerk.
[2:36:19] >> They're all the same thing.
[2:36:21] >> It's all What do you think,
[2:36:28] » Mr. Chair? And if the county attorney
[2:36:29] disagrees, I would say if you refer to
[2:36:31] them B through F, um, you know, pointing
[2:36:34] them out as they're listed on the
[2:36:36] agenda, I think it would be okay.
[2:36:39] >> I think it's fine if we do them all
[2:36:41] together,
[2:36:41] >> unless there's an objection to one or
[2:36:43] something like that. Yeah, unless
[2:36:45] someone in the public has specific, they
[2:36:47] can just refer to one of the specific
[2:36:49] ones.
[2:36:49] >> Okay, so that's what we're going to do.
[2:36:53] Holy cow.
[2:36:58] Okay, [laughter] this is what we're
[2:37:00] going to do then. Now declare the public
[2:37:02] hearing open for consideration of the
[2:37:05] public hearings B through F 2026 NEC
[2:37:09] code adoption. Building department
[2:37:11] contractor licensing rules and
[2:37:13] regulations. Building department
[2:37:15] contractor license fee schedule.
[2:37:16] Building department permit fee schedule.
[2:37:18] Planning department fee schedule. The
[2:37:21] hearing be conducted in accordance with
[2:37:23] state statutes rules of Nona County
[2:37:25] Commission and other applicable laws.
[2:37:27] May we have a report from staff.
[2:37:31] just the bullet point since you already
[2:37:33] reviewed it this morning or afternoon.
[2:37:41] » Mr. Chairman and commissioners, I have
[2:37:43] nothing to add from this afternoon
[2:37:44] unless you have any questions. Uh stands
[2:37:46] as reviewed earlier and
[2:37:48] >> just give kind of a bullet point thing
[2:37:50] real quick. Um, so the updates are for
[2:37:52] the building, uh, mostly the building
[2:37:55] department and the contractor's
[2:37:57] licenses, um, some fees, and then
[2:38:00] updating what we found hadn't been
[2:38:02] updated from until or since, uh, 2000.
[2:38:05] Uh, so for 26 years, we're kind of
[2:38:07] running under the same regulations. So
[2:38:09] really just updated how we're actually
[2:38:11] working and functioning, uh, right now.
[2:38:14] Um and then adding the fees that we had
[2:38:18] already been uh charging for many years.
[2:38:22] Uh make sure they are listed out on our
[2:38:25] fee schedules. Uh same for the planning
[2:38:27] department
[2:38:28] >> and the 2026 NAC code adoption. That's
[2:38:31] just updating it to current. And then
[2:38:34] the two amendments were what?
[2:38:38] >> Correct. On the updates on that and I'm
[2:38:42] going to defer to Brad for amendments.
[2:38:49] Mr. Chairman, commissioners, the two
[2:38:52] amendments, uh, one of them was,
[2:38:55] uh, to clarify
[2:38:59] that EMT is not allowed to use glow
[2:39:03] grade. And the other one was to
[2:39:05] >> Did you speak up? I didn't hear what you
[2:39:06] just said.
[2:39:08] [clears throat] It was to clarify that
[2:39:09] uh electrical metallic tubing
[2:39:12] EMT is not allowed to be used below
[2:39:15] grade underground.
[2:39:18] And then the second amendment was to
[2:39:21] clarify mobile homes from manufactured
[2:39:24] homes and that you cannot uh attach the
[2:39:28] electrical service to a mobile home.
[2:39:30] >> All righty. Any questions on any of this
[2:39:33] from staff?
[2:39:36] Okay. Thank you, Seth.
[2:39:44] Okay. At this time, I would ask those
[2:39:47] individuals who wish to speak in favor
[2:39:49] of consideration
[2:39:52] of agenda 7 or 8, part B through F,
[2:39:59] 2026, NEC code adoption, building
[2:40:02] department contractor license rules,
[2:40:04] regulations, building department
[2:40:05] contractor license fee schedule,
[2:40:07] building department permit fee schedule,
[2:40:09] and planning department fee schedule to
[2:40:11] approach the table.
[2:40:15] I'm only going to say that once.
[2:40:17] Reach these. At this time, I'd ask those
[2:40:20] individuals who wish to speak in favor
[2:40:21] of consideration of section 8 B through
[2:40:26] F of today's agenda approach the table.
[2:40:31] At this time, I'd ask those individuals
[2:40:33] who wish to speak in favor of
[2:40:34] consideration
[2:40:36] of section 8 B through F of today's
[2:40:39] agenda approach the table.
[2:40:41] Seeing none, at this time I would ask
[2:40:43] those individuals who wish to speak in
[2:40:45] opposition in consideration of section 8
[2:40:49] B through F
[2:40:51] to approach the table.
[2:40:54] At this time, I'd ask those individuals
[2:40:56] who wish to speak in obsation of
[2:40:58] consideration of section 8 B through F
[2:41:02] of today's agenda approach table. And
[2:41:06] last time at this time I'd ask those
[2:41:07] individuals who wish to speak in
[2:41:09] obsession and consideration of section 8
[2:41:12] B through F which is the 2026 NEC code
[2:41:16] adoption building department contractor
[2:41:18] licensing rules and regulations.
[2:41:19] Building department contract please
[2:41:21] license fee schedule building department
[2:41:23] permit fee schedule planning department
[2:41:25] fee schedule approach table.
[2:41:29] There being no one to speak for against
[2:41:31] consideration of section 8 B through F
[2:41:35] to
[2:41:38] that approach the election. I declare
[2:41:42] the public hearing closed. [snorts]
[2:41:46] Do I have a motion?
[2:41:47] >> Mr. Chairman, I would make a motion that
[2:41:50] we approve section 8 B through F. Um
[2:41:56] I don't believe we need to read those
[2:41:57] out individually. specific one time
[2:41:59] otherwise. Yes.
[2:42:00] >> Okay. All right. The 2026 NEC code
[2:42:04] adoption, building department contractor
[2:42:07] licensing rules and regulations,
[2:42:09] building department contractor license
[2:42:11] fee schedule, building department permit
[2:42:13] fee schedule, and planning department
[2:42:16] fee schedule.
[2:42:19] » Have a motion and a second. Those in
[2:42:21] favor say I.
[2:42:23] >> Those opposed.
[2:42:26] Pass. There you go.
[2:42:28] We move on to public comments.
[2:42:30] Anybody wish to speak?
[2:42:36] You get to sit down for a public
[2:42:37] comment. This
[2:42:40] >> Well, that's why we have chair there for
[2:42:42] you, sir.
[2:42:43] >> Five up there on the timer.
[2:42:45] >> Better start that.
[2:42:46] >> No, I just wanted to thank you for
[2:42:48] consideration of the comp study and the
[2:42:51] implementation of it. Uh, thank the
[2:42:54] people that worked on that, Tracy. uh
[2:42:58] Danielle and others. Uh I know it's a
[2:43:01] difficult thing to consider particularly
[2:43:04] into the future, but I hope it
[2:43:06] continues. Uh it uh it's a real morale
[2:43:10] booster and it's going to help a lot of
[2:43:12] people. So I appreciate it.
[2:43:15] >> Thank you.
[2:43:16] >> Thanks.
[2:43:16] >> Employees are our most valuable asset by
[2:43:19] the way in my
[2:43:21] >> I agree.
[2:43:26] Thanks, Mike.
[2:43:29] >> Any further public comment?
[2:43:34] » Commissioner's comments. Dave,
[2:43:39] » the governor's was governor's cup was
[2:43:42] held up at the Suckenoff this last
[2:43:44] weekend uh along with the outdoor wreck
[2:43:46] um symposium that they had downtown.
[2:43:50] Other than being very warm, there was a
[2:43:52] lot of people that showed up. Um they
[2:43:55] had approximately 300 different
[2:43:57] participants in the shoot itself, which
[2:43:59] is always good. That's about the same as
[2:44:01] what they had last year. Um it's a great
[2:44:04] event. It
[2:44:07] really puts Casper on the map for a lot
[2:44:09] of the shooting sports and things like
[2:44:11] that. And it was just a it was a good
[2:44:14] event. And I always enjoy going out
[2:44:18] there. I don't participate in the
[2:44:20] shooting part of it, but uh generally
[2:44:22] speaking, but I do do enjoy being out
[2:44:25] there watching.
[2:44:32] » I've been invited to go down to Cheyenne
[2:44:33] and view some data centers. They have
[2:44:35] six of them. And uh couple of the people
[2:44:38] that I know very well that are highly
[2:44:40] educated in data center law and the
[2:44:45] issues that attend a data center. So, I
[2:44:48] want to find that out because I know
[2:44:50] there's a
[2:44:52] possible request going to show up
[2:44:54] wanting to put a data center in this
[2:44:56] county. I don't know when exactly. I've
[2:44:58] talked to the people though about it.
[2:45:01] And uh they tell me they have it located
[2:45:04] in a place where it won't bother
[2:45:06] neighbors or upset people. Um, so I need
[2:45:11] to find out some things about water and
[2:45:13] electricity and gas and how it all runs
[2:45:15] and what any costs may be to taxpayers,
[2:45:18] which they say are none. And they say
[2:45:20] that if they get it running the way they
[2:45:22] perceive it, it would mean a hundred
[2:45:24] million dollars a year in taxes to
[2:45:25] Atrona County, which if we got that, we
[2:45:29] would be flush.
[2:45:31] So, I want to go down and find out if
[2:45:33] this is true and if that if if it's uh
[2:45:37] going to happen maybe and uh just to
[2:45:41] find out more information because a lot
[2:45:43] of people don't even understand what a
[2:45:44] data center is. But if you watch Netflix
[2:45:48] comes through a data center if you have
[2:45:49] a credit card and you pay it comes
[2:45:52] through a data center. So, uh and then
[2:45:55] all the AI is going to start coming
[2:45:56] through a data center.
[2:45:59] So, it's something that's happening now.
[2:46:01] It's the current state-of-the-art. And
[2:46:04] if they're going to provide 600 jobs in
[2:46:06] Casper, Wyoming, and I'd say that's a
[2:46:08] plus. If we're going to get unbelievable
[2:46:11] taxes, I'd say that's a plus. But I want
[2:46:14] to find out uh what the possibility of
[2:46:18] all that is so that I can then report it
[2:46:21] to the commissioners and the public here
[2:46:23] in the Trona County. And I can only tell
[2:46:25] you one other thing. It's really hot out
[2:46:27] there.
[2:46:31] » Sure goes.
[2:46:34] >> Just have a couple things. Yeah, it's
[2:46:35] really hot. It's really, really dry. So,
[2:46:37] fire danger is up. So, please be extra
[2:46:40] cautious. Um, family and I took a little
[2:46:43] trip and there were fires all over the
[2:46:46] Northwest. It was kind of kind of scary
[2:46:49] coming back and seeing the 100 plus
[2:46:51] degree heat.
[2:46:53] Um, the other thing that I on our trip.
[2:46:56] That was really nice and kind of
[2:46:58] reminded me of um I guess a simpler time
[2:47:01] here. It was really nice in northern
[2:47:02] Idaho not seeing a gambling joint in
[2:47:04] every corner. I really enjoyed that. So
[2:47:07] just something to I guess ponder as we move forward as a community and um
[2:47:13] guess on the I guess data center issue
[2:47:18] and doing a lot of reading on data
[2:47:21] centers and the rise of AI and it it
[2:47:23] worries me a little bit. um just because
[2:47:27] I think there is a
[2:47:31] possibility out there that we over rely
[2:47:35] on AI and don't educate ourselves
[2:47:37] enough. And I would really hate to see
[2:47:39] the day where we have people sitting in
[2:47:43] elected seats that were making all of
[2:47:46] their decisions based on AI. So I think
[2:47:49] we need to be really careful and really
[2:47:50] cautious with how much trust we put into
[2:47:54] AI and how much um
[2:47:57] we use it as a tool although there are
[2:48:00] appropriate times and places for it.
[2:48:01] Thank you.
[2:48:07] So it's it's almost a month
[2:48:11] and a lot of things get decided here in
[2:48:13] Wyoming.
[2:48:16] Um,
[2:48:17] I hope
[2:48:19] that
[2:48:23] the that people become educated on on
[2:48:27] what is going on in the state of Wyoming
[2:48:29] right now.
[2:48:31] Um,
[2:48:35] voting starts tomorrow
[2:48:37] for absentee. [snorts]
[2:48:41] A lot can happen between now and a
[2:48:44] month. scandals, people bailing out
[2:48:47] this, that, or another thing.
[2:48:50] If you don't have to vote absentee,
[2:48:55] I highly
[2:48:57] just suggest you don't know what's going
[2:48:59] to happen till it happens. Vote on the
[2:49:02] day of.
[2:49:06] There's too many things that can can
[2:49:08] happen. But on the long of it, I missed
[2:49:12] the the governor shoot. I was
[2:49:14] suffocating a couple of fish in the air.
[2:49:18] So, but they were pretty tasty. Um,
[2:49:23] as far as the AI and the data centers, I agree um need to be educated. The the
[2:49:32] everybody should be educated. The style
[2:49:34] of uh data center that is being
[2:49:38] looked at being to be put ina is a
[2:49:42] little different than others in the
[2:49:44] state that are in operation.
[2:49:47] Uh we need to focus on what benefits are
[2:49:51] as well as the detractors of and
[2:49:54] determine
[2:49:56] whether we want to go down that alley or
[2:49:58] not.
[2:49:59] Now the one thing that uh is concerning
[2:50:02] I have heard from different
[2:50:08] oh entrepreneurs or whatever is that
[2:50:13] it appears that Nitrona doesn't want to
[2:50:16] grow and Nrona doesn't want to develop
[2:50:18] anything.
[2:50:20] Um that that is very concerning for the
[2:50:23] future of Nona.
[2:50:25] So we need to be very mindful of what we
[2:50:27] decide to do.
[2:50:29] moving forward. As far as AI, I'm not
[2:50:32] I'm as concerned as Casey is about uh
[2:50:36] politicians
[2:50:37] following AI advice, but what the hell?
[2:50:40] They already follow social media advice,
[2:50:43] so I don't know about which is worse.
[2:50:47] Um, with that, we're journed.