1 00:00:38,350 --> 00:00:45,790 Good evening, all in one, I just want to begin by mic, from the 7th, the 6th, as well, 2 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:51,710 to begin, we have a very strong comment, on the 6th, the beginning, the 1th, the end of the 3 00:00:51,710 --> 00:00:52,630 talk. 4 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,700 Dr. Anybody about anything that's not on the agenda, if it's on the agenda, we'll bring 5 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:09,680 that up with the agenda. And so I will proceed with opening the meeting, and we start with 6 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,080 the Pledge of Allegiance and then a small moment of silence. 7 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:16,320 First, evil? 8 00:01:19,940 --> 00:01:25,000 Like Pledge of Allegiance to the Black Flag of the United States of America, and to the 9 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, end of the soul, with liberty and 10 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,320 justice for the honor of all. 11 00:01:35,860 --> 00:01:36,380 And 12 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:50,740 ask for the roll call from the clerk, please. 13 00:01:51,740 --> 00:01:54,360 Chris Skontold representing Cape Elizabeth and South Portland. 14 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,780 Will we Douglas representing Wyndham and Vaman? 15 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:01,440 Daniel, will that representative go on? 16 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:01,740 Yeah. 17 00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:04,680 Malice, Jonathan C, representing Westbrook. 18 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Present. 19 00:02:06,540 --> 00:02:09,460 John Volto, representing Cape Elizabeth, South Portland. 20 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:10,060 Here. 21 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:12,160 Gary, will you represent Portland? 22 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:15,560 William Lent, representing Cumberland, Thalmyth. 23 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:16,140 Present. 24 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,860 Will you go to the clock, representing Scabron? 25 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:19,440 Here. 26 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:22,020 Will you use representing Portland? 27 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:22,740 Here. 28 00:02:22,740 --> 00:02:23,860 Patrick McKinley. 29 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,600 Rabbi's in Portland. 30 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:25,200 President. 31 00:02:25,740 --> 00:02:26,720 Charles Saddach-Cardin. 32 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:27,480 Rabbi's in Portland. 33 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Thank you. 34 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:40,720 We'll have Item 3A is acceptance of the minutes of the regular meeting of June 29th, 35 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:42,500 2026. 36 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,120 May I have any motion? 37 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:45,960 One more. 38 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,480 Second. 39 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,940 We've moved in second, and are there any errors or emissions? 40 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,580 Seeing none. 41 00:02:53,580 --> 00:03:05,800 I don't need to, no, okay, so seeing no errors or omissions, I'll call vote all those in favor. 42 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:08,320 Opposed? 43 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:10,360 Seeing none, it's exact. 44 00:03:11,380 --> 00:03:16,820 Item 3B is acceptance of the minutes of the workshop meeting of July 13th, 2026. 45 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:18,040 I have a motion. 46 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:24,520 In fact, it moved in seconded, are there any errors or omissions, any additions at all? 47 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:27,520 Seeing none, all those in favor? 48 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:31,120 Opposed? 49 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:32,680 So moved. 50 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:40,250 Item 4 is an invitation for public comment on something that's not on the agenda. 51 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:42,830 We have anybody from the public. 52 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:46,770 I don't see anybody from the public. 53 00:03:50,050 --> 00:03:50,650 Okay? 54 00:03:51,490 --> 00:03:51,810 All right. 55 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:55,410 We will move on to the reports. 56 00:03:55,410 --> 00:03:58,010 the Operations Committee report, Trustee Crockett. 57 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:02,460 Thank you. 58 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:19,710 The meeting of the Operations Committee of the Portland Water District Board of Trustees took place on Monday, July 13th, 2026 at 5.30pm in the EOC conference room of the Douglas Street facility, 225 Douglas Street, Portland, Maine, considered with the following items of business. 59 00:04:20,370 --> 00:04:27,610 I forgot to mention, President was myself, Trustee Vultz, Trustee Charles Chattacquaydon, Trustee McCann, 60 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:30,150 and staff with Charlene Pullen and James Wallace. 61 00:04:31,290 --> 00:04:36,070 Number one, operational update, plant and field activities, wastewater staff reviewed 62 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:39,670 the recent violations at the Peaks Island treatment facility. 63 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:45,090 They reviewed treatment, plant operations and explained total suspended solids, TSS and 64 00:04:45,090 --> 00:04:51,590 biological oxygen demand, BOD staff explained that a broken check valve caused violations. 65 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:54,570 They also reviewed previous troubleshooting efforts and 66 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:58,890 discussed approval, approved fecal, coliform testing methods. 67 00:04:59,430 --> 00:05:01,870 Noting that the IDECs call it, 68 00:05:04,260 --> 00:05:05,780 my screen just went blank. 69 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,400 I apologize. 70 00:05:18,890 --> 00:05:20,690 18 coliform method may have been produced 71 00:05:20,690 --> 00:05:24,370 false positive results as a result staff returned to using 72 00:05:24,370 --> 00:05:28,090 the previously used and DEP approved membrane filtration methods 73 00:05:28,090 --> 00:05:28,870 at all plants. 74 00:05:29,490 --> 00:05:32,630 Water staff informed the committee that an expected delivery 75 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:34,930 of fluoride did not arrive resulting in the shutdown 76 00:05:34,930 --> 00:05:37,410 of fluoride addition on June 24. 77 00:05:37,410 --> 00:05:42,610 with. There is currently a fluoride supply chain challenge. The main drinking water program 78 00:05:42,610 --> 00:05:47,970 was notified and they mentioned this is also affecting other water utilities. A partial 79 00:05:47,970 --> 00:05:53,330 delivery was received on July 8 and fluoride addition was restored later in the day. Fluoride 80 00:05:53,330 --> 00:05:58,430 addition can be stopped for up to 30 days without public notification. PWD has done this in the 81 00:05:58,430 --> 00:06:03,690 past for equipment maintenance and for an inspection of the storage tank. Fluoride is a byproduct 82 00:06:03,690 --> 00:06:09,570 of phosphate fertilizer production and political impacts such as tariff, state bans, market conditions, 83 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:14,530 and an RFK junior position to stop Florida addition to drinking water kept production low. 84 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:19,210 In addition, water staff shared information on water plant equipment that was recently replaced 85 00:06:19,210 --> 00:06:26,090 using CIP funds, allowing along with a detailed presentation of an unplanned project on Foden Road 86 00:06:26,090 --> 00:06:31,350 initiated by a leak on private. With no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6.20 pm. 87 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:32,410 Thank you. 88 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:48,330 Good. Yeah. 89 00:06:53,250 --> 00:07:02,800 I've volunteered. Thank you Gary. And you know that that was meant 90 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:14,600 at least sarcastically. However, we held our meeting on Monday, July 13th here in the Nixon Room. 91 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:21,520 The trustees present were me, trustee Hughes and trustee Lunt, the staff people present 92 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:28,780 were Scott Furman, Laurel Jackson, Helen Newman, and Katie Munson from the Cumberland County 93 00:07:28,780 --> 00:07:31,400 soil and water conservation district. 94 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:40,080 The first item that we discussed was surplus land declaration for the property at school 95 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:47,880 global road in windom, which had been the site of a treatment plant, the committee unanimously 96 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:55,760 recommended declaring that property surplus, and that's going to be on the agenda tonight. 97 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:05,280 The second item was the hydraulic model project, Helen Newman, the project engineer, provided 98 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,580 into the project update of the district's efforts to update its hydraulic model as part 99 00:08:10,580 --> 00:08:14,120 of the master planning process, an interesting discussion. 100 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:24,620 The third item was the Cumberland County Soil and Water Conservation District program. 101 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:32,840 Katie Munson, the project educator, provided an update on the education program. 102 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Again, something very interesting. 103 00:08:35,380 --> 00:08:37,840 The meeting adjourned at 6.25 pm. 104 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Any questions? 105 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,260 Comments? 106 00:08:44,540 --> 00:08:45,600 Seen none. 107 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:48,140 Administration Finance Committee. 108 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:49,200 Trustee Willett. 109 00:08:49,780 --> 00:08:50,520 Thank you. 110 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,180 Administrative Finance Committee amounted on July 13, 2026. 111 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,460 President was trustee, Sean O'See, trustees. 112 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:03,540 Scrantors, staff, Cain, Archibald, and Dorian. 113 00:09:03,540 --> 00:09:12,920 The Administration Finance Committee meeting was held on Monday, July 13, 2026 at 5.30 p.m. 114 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:21,380 in the PWD third floor training room 225 Douglas Street, Portland, considered with the following 115 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:28,760 items item 1 safety program Mr. Archimbal provided an update on the safety program on the status 116 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,720 of the 2026 initiatives, and there is an attachment on that. 117 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:41,180 In order of the following, confined space updated and provided training, provide training 118 00:09:41,180 --> 00:09:48,080 the revised policy and procedures to safety driving, refresher, update policy and procedures 119 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:54,580 three, safety grant, obtain grant to focus on installing safety hatches. 120 00:09:54,580 --> 00:10:03,480 4. Emergency eyewash slash shower audit. Review the locations of eyewash and shower stations, 121 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:11,520 including at the North Wyndham Playa. 5. Hearing assessment. Purchase a decibel reader 122 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:17,200 and contact at the main municipal association to assist in conducting noise audits. 6. 123 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,980 safety program, begin their process to review and update the program. 124 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:29,520 The second item, the pension plan update, the item was postponed to a further 125 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:35,220 meaning due to time constraints. Three, other business, customer comment. 126 00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:39,780 The committee reviewed a comment reviewed by Pam Hale, see attached. 127 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,820 She asked the district to review the default paperless setting on the district's 128 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:46,260 payment processing site. 129 00:10:46,540 --> 00:10:52,720 Ms. Ryan demonstrated how a customer sets up their account for the 130 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,400 papalist and electronic payment. 131 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:59,840 She noted at the time of converting to invoice cloud staff recommended the 132 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,420 default setting to be set to papalist. 133 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:08,300 For customers making a one-time payment need to reset the default each time they make a 134 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:09,180 one-time payment. 135 00:11:09,540 --> 00:11:12,620 Other payment types, auto pay and tax. 136 00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:15,520 the customer would need to change the setting once. 137 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:22,760 After discussion, it was decided to leave the current setting in the place, but requested 138 00:11:23,340 --> 00:11:28,600 additional information for further consideration, with no further business to meeting adjourned 139 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,460 at 525. 140 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,520 How's 625? 141 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:32,040 Excuse me. 142 00:11:32,980 --> 00:11:33,740 Any comments? 143 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:34,560 Any questions? 144 00:11:35,380 --> 00:11:36,420 Any additions? 145 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,380 Seeing none. 146 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:39,040 Thank you. 147 00:11:39,980 --> 00:11:41,100 Have the General Manager report? 148 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:55,180 I did submit a written report. I want to highlight that the workshop in August will be held up at the Sevegel Lake Ecology Center across from the treatment facility at two white rock road in standish. 149 00:11:56,680 --> 00:12:06,240 We like to offer a tour that demonstrates the security efforts in around our intake. 150 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:12,780 we have a sign-in sheet and we'll have it over there logistics it takes about an 151 00:12:12,780 --> 00:12:19,140 hour to complete the tour so we are considering a 430 option and a 630 option 152 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:24,980 that would allow us to have two tours depending on what the demand is and we 153 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:30,380 will figure out workshop I'm sorry committee meetings and then the workshop will 154 00:12:30,380 --> 00:12:40,100 begin at 6.30 and that will be a facilitated workshop. Are there any questions? Oh and if there's 155 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:47,440 interest in we've rented a vehicle in the past to assist with transportation up there. If there's 156 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:53,440 interest in that there's also an option on that piece of paper put your name down and if there's 157 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,740 interest in that will provide a write-up there. 158 00:12:58,740 --> 00:13:00,320 Any questions for the General Manager? 159 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:02,780 Here we go. 160 00:13:02,780 --> 00:13:03,760 Yeah, I've got a question. 161 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:11,420 In the Portland Wagewater Project section of your written report. 162 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,700 It says conversations regarding MOPO. 163 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:22,100 First off, I have no idea what that is, and I'd like to know. 164 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:38,620 But related to dewatering are ongoing, the contractors compiling a budgetary cost estimate for a potential new dewatering building due to the exorbitant temporary dewatering figures and operational complexity of the system. 165 00:13:38,620 --> 00:13:41,940 First, I heard about building a new building. 166 00:13:42,340 --> 00:13:44,120 I'd like to know more about that. 167 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:49,220 And then the PWD will review and determine the value 168 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:52,060 of the new building versus installing the system 169 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:55,000 in the existing building and dealing with the temporary 170 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,880 dewatering system for about a year. 171 00:13:57,540 --> 00:14:02,160 So all of that is kind of interesting to me, 172 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,860 but lots of stuff I don't know about. 173 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,900 So if someone could explain it to me, I'd appreciate it. 174 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:18,180 So that is the process of handling a complicated plant process when it's down for construction. 175 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,020 And, you know, at that facility, I was trying to address some of this. 176 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:27,540 We produce about a third of the state's biosolids there. 177 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:34,460 So when we take that system down, it's going to be very complicated to put out a temporary piece of equipment and handle that. 178 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:39,420 So that's one of the, you know, alternatives that the contractor is looking at, 179 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:42,540 that side builder is, should we construct a new building, 180 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,640 build a new equipment in that, and then start? 181 00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:56,050 And then what you can do is transition to the new equipment, 182 00:14:56,450 --> 00:14:59,250 and then you can decommission the old equipment afterwards. 183 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,860 There's no question. But the reality is that there's a lot of risk associated with handling this process with temporary equipment handled by a contractor. And it's also very expensive. The first quote that we got was $7 million. Just to handle the temporary processing of our biosolids over the course of about 12 months. I was surprised to hear that too. I was not expecting this to be the direction that we're heading. And so I'm working with the team right now to 184 00:15:29,860 --> 00:15:34,820 flesh this out so that we can really understand it because I think that there's a little more 185 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:40,300 of this story, but I am beginning to think that the new building option may actually, 186 00:15:41,940 --> 00:15:45,360 it's been a struggle for me to wrap my head around, may actually be a good alternative. 187 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:53,860 It provides us with much improved future operability of the new systems, the existing 188 00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:58,740 location is going to be a very tight squeeze for these new 189 00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:03,900 biosols dewatering equipment and so lifting the pieces that need to be 190 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:07,620 removed for maintenance, for example, is something that we're concerned about. 191 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:12,960 So these are the things that we're looking at now. At this point in time, that is 192 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,420 a future phase of the project, the actual installation of this dewatering 193 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:23,260 equipment. The project that we are approving with the $22 million is return 194 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:32,640 an activated sludge, a rasp litter box, it is HVAC, it's headworks, and it's the procurement 195 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,180 of the de-watering equipment, which is expensive, but it's the installation of that equipment 196 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:42,480 we've delayed, particularly because we need to be able to answer all these questions 197 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,680 before we enter into contracts, so that's kind of where we're at right now. 198 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,140 Okay, if there's a new building, where would it be located? 199 00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:57,620 right now it's being proposed down by the primary settling tanks, which is, you know, 200 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:04,140 just to the sort of south, let me think. I guess that's actually the north of the process control 201 00:17:04,140 --> 00:17:04,560 building. 202 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:11,660 And there's not a lot of extra space on that site, as you know. So it is a challenge, 203 00:17:11,660 --> 00:17:15,760 for sure. And we're really in the early stages of sorting this all out. 204 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:16,880 Thanks. 205 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:17,560 Of course. 206 00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:19,400 Before you sit down, please. 207 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:19,720 Yes. 208 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:27,600 The energy and the cost that we go into this, if you do it this way, is that going to be 209 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,500 something that's going to be compatible with what we're planning on doing regionally? 210 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:34,200 Yeah. 211 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:42,300 Either way we do this, we are setting this process up to be compatible with the forthcoming 212 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:50,860 regional biosolids facility and the intention is to improve the processing capability so that we 213 00:17:50,860 --> 00:17:57,520 are as efficient as we can be on that site at the east end, whether or not we have a future biosolids 214 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:04,340 handling facility down the road to further process the sludge. You have an idea of what size building 215 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:04,820 it would be? 216 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:12,800 I'm sorry, Kyle would know that off the top of his head. Do you have any recollection 217 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,960 Charlie was like it's significant. It's it's good size. It's two stories and the first 218 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:25,580 floor would I think have a cake receiving thing? I'm sorry. I'd have to get back to you. 219 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,640 Okay, that's no problem. I'm sure we'll get more involved into it anyway. There's some question. 220 00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:36,580 Yeah, go ahead. So I just wanted to see if I understood what you said. Yes. So it sounds like 221 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:41,980 this is something that came up in the process of proceeding with our approved process 222 00:18:41,980 --> 00:18:48,940 to replace the dewatering equipment and some of this has to do with managing that process 223 00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:56,880 while still operating and so conflicts and challenges came up in the process of specifying 224 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:04,420 that with the contractor. So it sounds like that resulted in potential either additional 225 00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:12,740 or higher costs. And within that, we plan for some of that when we sort of thumbnail in the cost. 226 00:19:13,180 --> 00:19:19,380 Are we still within ranger? Is this looking like an overall cost increase? Because if it is, 227 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:24,660 that's the sort of thing that I would actually hope is flagged as this is what came up. This is how 228 00:19:24,660 --> 00:19:30,000 it came up. It might be a cost increase overall to this project. And then view it as part of that 229 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:37,480 overall project cost because the overall project cost is a big project. So this is a big project. And 230 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,880 to answer your question, you know, we went into this like we do many of our other projects where we 231 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,000 look at a process and we think of, you know, we assume we're going to be able to use the existing space 232 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:54,520 and replace. And when we started to discuss how our operations staff are actually going to be able to 233 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,520 to manage a temporary dewatering alternative, 234 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,460 it got really complicated really quick 235 00:20:03,460 --> 00:20:05,280 and it got really risky really quick 236 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,420 because most of these alternatives 237 00:20:08,420 --> 00:20:09,620 would include one unit. 238 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,560 And if that one unit were to fail, 239 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,320 suddenly we're trucking, 240 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,600 I don't even know what we would do 241 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,700 with the amount of volume that we produced at that site. 242 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,560 It's really, it would be a bad situation. 243 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:42,680 And so for that reason, among others, the design builder and the project team started to think about the idea of another building, which for me personally was a struggle at first because I'm always looking to make sure that I can stand in front of you guys and let you know that we're making the most cost effective choice. 244 00:20:43,820 --> 00:20:58,880 So at first I'm you know I'm asking my staff is this this really makes sense it seems like a huge expense and as everybody starts to explain this to me and we start to look at the actual life cycle cost evaluations and the risk as well it's starting to become clear. 245 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:07,640 But in fairness, we're still early in the planning process on this specific item. This is something that we're going to be clarifying over the next couple of months. 246 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,960 At which point, we need to get back to you guys to educate you on where we land and make 247 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,820 a decision as a group. 248 00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:16,660 This is a huge project as you pointed out. 249 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,080 We're dealing with long standing deferred maintenance at this site. 250 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,100 We've really changed our approach to rather than just doing a process upgrade, looking at holistic 251 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:32,200 improvements to improve long-term performance and reliability at the site so that we don't 252 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,520 continually walk around the plant and think, why didn't we do that when we had a contractor 253 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:44,300 right here, right? So it's affecting the cost. And so I think that is just as a perhaps a preview, 254 00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:49,600 you know, you will see that this project is going to be significantly expensive. And I think we're 255 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,400 going to get a ton of value out of it. And we're going to get the facility that we need, which is 256 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,920 something that we can be proud of and rely on and, you know, carry us in the future. 257 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,580 Yeah, 258 00:22:02,370 --> 00:22:07,090 one thing I think I heard you mentioned at the beginning of your comments was that 259 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:13,430 To put in the temporary we cost up to seven million dollars to put in just for temporary 260 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:18,250 Yeah, that seven million dollars if you put it into that building 261 00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:23,230 I would hope that would be pretty good chunk of the cost of that building 262 00:22:23,230 --> 00:22:28,250 It's a pretty good chunk of the cost of the building and that was the very first thought we had when we saw that quote 263 00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:31,950 was, wow, that gets you a long way toward a new building. 264 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:38,310 Now, I will say that the cost of new buildings for process applications right now is extremely 265 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:38,670 high. 266 00:22:39,130 --> 00:22:42,870 This site is going to be a real challenge to permit, although we've had really good 267 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:46,470 conversations with the city of Portland to move that process forward. 268 00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:50,170 But there's still, you know, there's still a lot of challenges in front of us. 269 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:52,130 But $7 million gets us through a long way. 270 00:22:52,590 --> 00:22:56,590 But the building itself, I mean, the stuff that's going to be in the building, you're going 271 00:22:56,590 --> 00:23:00,730 to put it somewhere anyways. So that's not part of that cost of that bill. And when you're looking 272 00:23:00,730 --> 00:23:05,730 to save the money, I'm just trying to say somebody listened to this, this meeting, 273 00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:12,130 when you say, you know, we're going to build a new building. And then, you know, somebody says, 274 00:23:12,130 --> 00:23:17,570 well, it was going to cost $7 million at least just to do something temporary. That makes us look 275 00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:22,930 a whole lot smarter to do it with a new building. So I just think that's something that should be 276 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:28,310 top priority to change those figures where they need to be so that you can prove it. 277 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:32,710 Yeah, thank you. That's a great point and that's the same way we're looking at it right now. 278 00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:34,030 Yeah, thank you. 279 00:23:34,030 --> 00:23:34,770 So, yes. 280 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:40,630 Two more, couple more cliffy. This sounds like it's a problem that arose out of a the volume 281 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:46,290 at the site and the lack of real estate at the site because if you were a different site, 282 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:49,690 like other sites where we have a lot more real estate, this would be a different sort 283 00:23:49,690 --> 00:23:57,290 of a challenge, and then also the lack of, excuse me, the size of the deferred maintenance. 284 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:03,450 So is this actually going to be a replacement building or a new building? 285 00:24:04,930 --> 00:24:06,670 This would be a new structure. 286 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:07,670 New structure? 287 00:24:07,810 --> 00:24:13,110 The intent would be to re-utilize the space where the existing dewatering equipment is for 288 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:14,010 some other purpose. 289 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:18,610 I'm not entirely sure what that is now, but given the direction that things are headed in, 290 00:24:18,610 --> 00:24:23,650 And I always think about electrical rooms with the needs for additional clearances, different 291 00:24:23,650 --> 00:24:24,450 safety protocols. 292 00:24:24,450 --> 00:24:30,350 As you address whole power distribution systems at plants, it's nice to have space like 293 00:24:30,350 --> 00:24:30,950 that available. 294 00:24:31,810 --> 00:24:32,330 Okay. 295 00:24:34,490 --> 00:24:34,710 Sorry. 296 00:24:34,810 --> 00:24:35,890 Does that answer your question, John? 297 00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:36,330 Yeah. 298 00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:36,730 Okay. 299 00:24:37,490 --> 00:24:38,150 Thank you. 300 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:38,810 Any other questions? 301 00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:39,430 Yes. 302 00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:45,390 I just want to point out that we had a meeting on this for the first time with the consultant 303 00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:46,170 last Tuesday. 304 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:55,610 So once Greg and his team had word, or you know, identified this as a specific concern, he got it into the note so that you saw it. 305 00:24:55,970 --> 00:25:02,250 Well, we're working to develop an understanding of the cost and as Greg explained, that will be a discussion with the board in the coming months. 306 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:06,350 Yes. 307 00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:13,110 Yes, I noticed that we are having trouble at the scenic overlook up in Standish. 308 00:25:13,570 --> 00:25:20,070 We haven't any trouble at either the bulk rent launch or the beach area or does it confine 309 00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:21,830 to that scenic overlook. 310 00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:24,930 Not to my knowledge. 311 00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:31,650 I haven't heard about any issues down there from Rod just, you know, people having fun 312 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:37,870 with their vehicles at that site which is causing some issues and I'm working on right now with 313 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:40,870 standard law enforcement. Thank you. 314 00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:45,050 Any other questions? Yes. 315 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:49,210 Well, one more comment on the general manager report. Included in the general manager's report 316 00:25:49,210 --> 00:25:53,610 is Scott's excellent op-ed piece that was in the press herald. If you didn't see it, 317 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:58,390 I recommend everyone take a look at that. It was really useful and as I mentioned just 318 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:02,550 Scott earlier, I thought it was great and I would love to see that be part of a strategic 319 00:26:02,550 --> 00:26:08,890 communications plan going forward we really need to get the message that was in there out 320 00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:14,930 and related messages to that and it's a great start. But please do take a look. It was a fantastic 321 00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:18,870 positioning and really solid piece. It's in your materials if you haven't seen it. 322 00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:24,730 Thank you. Yes. I just want to second that as well. I saw the article but I think it 323 00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:28,750 piggybacks on an earlier discussion we had in our breakout meeting with the consultant. 324 00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:35,070 That's a great example of a first step, but we'd be kidding ourselves if we don't take 325 00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:35,590 advantages. 326 00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:41,190 John said to maybe work with communications department to now have a very timely release 327 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:46,570 of these types of statements moving forward for the benefit of all the stakeholders of 328 00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:47,590 the Portland water district. 329 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:50,490 Just a word. 330 00:26:51,050 --> 00:26:57,770 Yeah, I did have a comment from a customer and they had their meter replaced recently and 331 00:26:57,770 --> 00:26:59,470 They had to call the chains at the time. 332 00:27:00,190 --> 00:27:02,370 And they said, how come I get somebody out of state 333 00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:05,230 and how come somebody from out of state drives up 334 00:27:05,230 --> 00:27:08,670 to put in the meter and drives up in an out of state car. 335 00:27:08,890 --> 00:27:10,770 So people don't understand that, you know, 336 00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:12,550 this is a contract for these meters 337 00:27:12,550 --> 00:27:15,250 they don't understand that we contract for the whole thing. 338 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:18,770 I don't know if there's any way we can get that out of. 339 00:27:19,090 --> 00:27:21,030 Maybe this is just an isolated comment, 340 00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:22,690 but this person said, you know, 341 00:27:23,490 --> 00:27:26,910 how come we're not using main people to take care of this? 342 00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:32,190 It sounds to me like we need to have a report on that at the next meeting. 343 00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:33,610 Where is it? 344 00:27:33,690 --> 00:27:34,110 Where is it? 345 00:27:34,190 --> 00:27:34,690 How is it coming? 346 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:35,570 Just an update. 347 00:27:37,690 --> 00:27:38,770 Thank you. 348 00:27:39,670 --> 00:27:40,290 Any other comments? 349 00:27:42,250 --> 00:27:45,510 Seeing none, let's move on to new business. 350 00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:53,570 Order 2617, declaring property located on school road in Wyndham as surplus. 351 00:27:57,010 --> 00:27:57,610 Just the living. 352 00:27:59,130 --> 00:28:04,690 This is a surplus land designation for the property at 10 schools road in 353 00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:11,270 Wyndham. The recommended language, the proposed language is presented to the board of 354 00:28:11,270 --> 00:28:17,670 trustees for approval, ordered. A district owned property located on school road in Wyndham 355 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:24,890 is hereby declared as surplus and staff is directed to take steps to dispose of the property 356 00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:30,390 and compliance with the policy for the sale or other use of district real property 357 00:28:30,390 --> 00:28:36,030 with terms and conditions of the sale to be brought back to the board of trustees for 358 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:42,330 their final approval and be it further ordered that the general manager and the treasurer each 359 00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:49,250 acting singly are authorized to take such steps as maybe necessary to accomplish the intent of this 360 00:28:49,250 --> 00:28:58,350 second. Second. Second. Second. Yes. The background analysis. The district owns a .52 acre 361 00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:07,710 parcel of land, acre parcel of land located at 10 school road in Wyndham, which was previously used 362 00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:14,370 for an elevated water storage tank. With the construction of the new water storage tank on 363 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:20,150 on Falmouth Road in Wyndham, the old tank was deemed unnecessary to the water system and 364 00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:23,170 was demolished in the spring of 2026. 365 00:29:24,170 --> 00:29:26,310 There are currently no structures on the property. 366 00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:33,390 Staff does not see any potential future use for the property, therefore staff recommends 367 00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:37,370 that the Board of Trustees vote to declare it surplus land. 368 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:45,110 Once declared surplus and appraisal will be obtained and it will be offered to the town 369 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:52,590 of Wyndham first as required by the policy for sale or other use of district real property. 370 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:59,310 If the town opts to move forward with the purchase, the district will give them an 371 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,820 Equate time to take the necessary steps to get approval and raise funds to purchase the property. If it is not acquired by the town, staff will come back to the committee to determine the best method of disposal to the public. Final sale will be brought back to the board for their final approval. The proposed purchase price will be determined by a fair market value appraisal. Net proceeds of the sale will be allocated to the 372 00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:38,000 water protection fund. The item will be reviewed by legal representation prior to the proposed 373 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:46,700 deed or execution and the committee recommended unanimously to forward this to the board for 374 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:52,740 its consideration. Any questions? Any comments? 375 00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:58,750 Seeing none, I'll move the question. All those in 376 00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:07,040 favor. Any opposed? Nope. It's smooth. Thank you. Item B. 377 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:16,660 Order 2618, appointing Brandon Naser of Perkins Thompson, the Interim Corporation Council 378 00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:20,080 of the Portland, Wyoming District. Vice President McCann. 379 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:24,520 Thank you. The following proposed language is presented for Board of Trustee Approval. 380 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,700 Ordered, Brandon J. Naser, through the law firm of Perkins Thompson, is hereby appointed 381 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:34,440 as the interim corporation council of the Portland Water District. Be it further ordered, 382 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,060 that the general manager and the treasurer each acting singly are authorized to take such steps as 383 00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:44,080 may be necessary to accomplish the intent of the vote. Second. Thank you. 384 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,440 The District's Corporation Council resigned her position effective July 17, 2026, 385 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:55,060 and the board is engaged in a service for a permits successor. The District needs interim 386 00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:59,880 Council until a permanent replacement is found. The outgoing Corporation Council advised the 387 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,180 board to make this appointment so the district would continue to be well represented during the 388 00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:09,440 search. Brandon J. Mauser of the law firm Perkins Thompson, who currently provides outside legal 389 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,280 services to the district, has agreed to act as the district's interim Corporation Council until a 390 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,560 permanent replacement is found. The near-term costs this arrangement are expected to be offset 391 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,780 by the currently vacant position, and in conclusion, I recommend the appointment of 392 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:31,280 Brandon J. Measier is in term council, and Corporation Council has approved the order as to form, 393 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,240 and I'm happy. Brandon Measier is unfortunately unable to attend tonight. He had a conflict, 394 00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:41,240 but I'm happy to take any questions to the best of my ability, if anyone has any. 395 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:48,640 Yes, I have a couple questions. What's the term of the engagement that we've been signing? 396 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:56,480 Um, so the, the interim appointment would be either until, uh, brand of resigns of the 397 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,960 board takes action to replace them. 398 00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:01,420 So it's an open basis month month, open basis. 399 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:01,640 Yes. 400 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,560 Up until we, we decided to change the agreement or we hire someone new. 401 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:07,780 Um, and you mentioned the cost. 402 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,300 Yep. 403 00:33:08,660 --> 00:33:13,380 So we'll, um, one of the, yeah, well, he'd be time tracking. 404 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,240 Well, they'd be time tracking so we can see exactly where the time, you know, how much 405 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,800 there's spending time on what functions won that aspect of that position. So Scott, I think 406 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,780 we already have an arrangement with them is that how it's currently working? That's a guess. 407 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:31,760 Yes, and then, for instance, David Kane right now was reviewing last month's end voices for various 408 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:38,860 district work. This would follow that same process. And lastly, did we put down any KPIs or metrics 409 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:44,780 on relative to the performance under this agreement? It's relative to the performance of the agreement. 410 00:33:44,780 --> 00:33:55,380 We've already had an existing agreement with Berkins Thompson's for for outside support with regard to the corporation gas deployment. I would say no, but Scott is anything with the current arrangement being tracked along those lines. 411 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:08,680 We're tracking the level of effort. We're tracking specifically what's being worked on and we did clarify the responsiveness and we've been assured that within 24 hours of contact. 412 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,300 We will get a response and most matters are addressed within a few days. 413 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,400 That's what we've addressed so far. 414 00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:21,660 All right, the reason for the question is because we have a lack of any metrics right 415 00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:26,460 now on the previous position and person, it's critical that we start to develop those metrics 416 00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:30,700 now in order to get a real handle on exactly what we need going forward. 417 00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:35,640 So I want to make sure that there are specifics in there and that we can start to see that those 418 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,680 metrics as I come up. 419 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,680 Yep, that's fair. 420 00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:41,790 Just a little bit. 421 00:34:42,110 --> 00:34:47,870 A lot of that information on what matters are being addressed and what the cost is be shared with the board. 422 00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:49,650 Sure. 423 00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:57,830 There's a whole bunch of different areas that the Corporation Council covers for us. 424 00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:07,490 Does the firm and Mr. Maeser in particular have those full range of capabilities or are there others within the firm that would be pulled in if it's an area that where they don't have expertise? 425 00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:07,530 Thank you. 426 00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:08,270 Sure. 427 00:35:08,410 --> 00:35:13,370 So I spoke with Mr. Mazers for this, and our former Corporation Council, Donna Katz, 428 00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:15,090 Ficus, made sure we got the language right on this. 429 00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:19,170 Technically, the language is we're pointing Brandon through the firm, if it's Tom's. 430 00:35:19,470 --> 00:35:24,110 So if he's unavailable, or if he needs to refer to someone else in the firm, we're covered by that language. 431 00:35:24,830 --> 00:35:30,330 The only thing I would bring up is, again, this is just a arrangement we would have with any outside council. 432 00:35:30,850 --> 00:35:35,430 If they have an existing relationship with someone else, they'd have to do a conflict check, and they'd have to send us somewhere else. 433 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:38,750 But honestly, I don't know how we could avoid that with outside counsel. 434 00:35:41,130 --> 00:35:47,970 To make additions to that, perhaps a little bit, we've done business with this law firm 435 00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:48,770 for years. 436 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:51,810 So there's a lot of expertise in that law firm. 437 00:35:52,070 --> 00:35:56,190 So if he can't do a particular item, it'll get done by somebody in there, I'm sure. 438 00:35:58,250 --> 00:35:59,810 Any other questions or comments? 439 00:36:01,190 --> 00:36:02,430 Seeing none, all those in favor? 440 00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:06,250 Opposed? So moved. 441 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:15,220 Item number seven, I don't think we have any other business before us. 442 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,480 So we'd move on to item number eight. It's a second invitation for public comment. 443 00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:36,720 Nobody here from the comments. So we'll move on. Item number nine is trustee comments. 444 00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:40,500 This is a time when the trustees have a chance to make comment. 445 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:46,700 Yes. Everyone got in their packet today, the agenda for next month's workshop. 446 00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:51,420 I think any good group, whether it's a board or anything else, 447 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:54,580 takes some time to reflect on how they're doing, what their process is, 448 00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:58,300 places they can improve. So the point of this session, 449 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,340 and we have Craig Fletcher, who moderated our last conversation like this. 450 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,600 We're going to come out. It's an opportunity for everyone to talk about 451 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,720 what things they think work well as the board, 452 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:11,960 what things we could improve as a board, 453 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:14,460 and it's an opportunity for the board to reflect 454 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:16,440 and figure out what things that may or may not want 455 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:16,940 to address. 456 00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:18,900 And we're just flagging it now, 457 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:20,960 so everyone knows it's coming, you got the agenda. 458 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,400 And this way, if there's anything that anyone wants 459 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,500 to bring up, get plenty of time to plan 460 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,940 and come with things to talk about. 461 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:30,000 So I just want to highlight that. 462 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,360 Anybody else? 463 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,460 Yes, just to go. 464 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:43,560 Just I wanted to give my thanks to David Cain who had a chance to sit down with me earlier 465 00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:49,380 since the last meeting to go through some of the financial aspects of the district and 466 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:54,240 just explain some things in a little more detail than I previously understood them. 467 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,260 I think I've got a really good handle now on exactly how the financials are put together, 468 00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:05,420 what range things move in, how rates are constructed, what levels of authority, 469 00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:10,900 how we function. And as a result of that, I may try and write up something that sort of 470 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:15,040 explains it by my own sort of simplified point of view. That was something that might be 471 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:21,540 of interest. Other folks sort of just capture my learning. And the other thing I wanted to flag was 472 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:27,500 in that process of discussions, we also discussed with him something that we may see in the next 473 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:34,060 budget to just let you know. We talked a little bit about how our water rates right now are split 474 00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:39,300 amongst different water customers in the upcoming water study and how that may be a lever we also 475 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:48,580 think about adjusting as we move forward in the budget to determine how the burden falls on our 476 00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:55,540 customers and as we're still trying to get into more compliance with what the rate survey said 477 00:38:56,060 --> 00:39:01,580 the fairness survey said before we it's time to do a new one. So 478 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:08,240 So those are the kinds of really sort of granular details 479 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:11,560 through which we discussed things we also sort of talked about, 480 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:16,660 things like what metrics make sense and why those things make sense 481 00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:19,240 in terms of what we track and how we proceed. 482 00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:23,420 So I just wanted to, again, thank you, David Cain. 483 00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:27,900 And if people do have an interest in seeing what I ended up producing 484 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:29,420 I'm happy to share that. 485 00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:34,400 And then there's a we may see something on the on the rate edge of under flagbed for people coming up 486 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,760 So that was some of the outcome of that meeting. Thank you 487 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,100 In the other comments maybe the other trustees which yes question on the workshop it'll be at the regular time 488 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:45,580 But it'll be at the 489 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:52,380 Sviggley-Gwater treatment facility and will the subcommittees be meeting prior to at the regular time? 490 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,520 Well, what we've done in the past is we've tried to set up the boat tours so that 491 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,320 But the committees, at least one of the committees, can meet while they're on the boat tour. 492 00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:07,700 So that's what, try to make that a range of, that's why we need to know how many people 493 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:12,040 are going, and how many people are going to be, want to go on the tour, so that we can do 494 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,180 that sort of work ahead of time, so that we don't waste time, you know. 495 00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:21,500 I would recommend that if you've never done the tour, you absolutely should do it. 496 00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:26,440 But even if you have done it, it's kind of nice to go back and see what's going on because 497 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:32,600 is it really, it shows you what is up there that we're protecting and how we're, you know, 498 00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:36,840 what we're doing to protect it. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it can be an eye opener. 499 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:39,960 Yes. 500 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,280 If I could be, is that the watershed protection building? 501 00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:51,080 That's the little building, which 502 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,740 is across the street from the big building. Okay, anybody else? 503 00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:59,780 Nothing. All right. Then 504 00:40:59,780 --> 00:41:05,660 And we believe we are talking about an executive session and turn it over to the BP. 505 00:41:06,620 --> 00:41:11,320 This time would like to make a motion to go into executive session pursuant to 1 MRS section 506 00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:14,220 4056A personnel evaluation. 507 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:17,320 Yes. 508 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,640 I'm going to vote. 509 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,280 All those in favor? 510 00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:24,010 Opposed? 511 00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:24,890 We're in. 512 00:41:26,250 --> 00:41:28,890 We take five minutes before we start operations. 513 00:41:28,890 --> 00:41:33,730 And if anybody wants to sign up on the sheet right now or you forget it, that'd be great. 514 00:41:33,970 --> 00:41:35,590 It's worth a tool sign up for it. 515 00:41:35,590 --> 00:41:36,530 That's been out of the lot. 516 00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:36,970 Yeah. 517 00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:37,370 Okay. 518 00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:38,610 Yeah. 519 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:41,750 Then I will like my understanding for the show or so. 520 00:41:42,010 --> 00:41:42,450 Yeah. 521 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:42,530 Yeah. 522 00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:45,650 So, is it like evaluation after...