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Billy, you're ready now.

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» Rock and roll.
>> All right.

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» Call this meeting of the Grand County
Airport Board

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in session. It's 4:00.

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And
first order of business

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Oh, one bit bit of information. Van Horn
says we have to leave early.

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» Okay.
>> What I've heard.

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» Yeah, we have a hard out at 5:00. So
>> Yeah.

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So
So you know, we'll we'll try to I I

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don't see a reason why we can't do that.
So first of all, citizens to be heard?

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» We have any have any citizens
online or otherwise if you want to say

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something?

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» I guess not. All right.
First order of business, approve the

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minutes from July 6th.
Here a motion to

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approve?
>> On the calendar.

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» To approve minutes from July 6th.
>> I second.

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» Seconded by Dan.
All in favor?

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» I I
>> I

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» Unanimous.

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All right. On to the director's report.
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» I'm looking at the numbers on house and
pets okay and go through that so I just

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talk a little bit first about a couple
of incidents we had.

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We did have a disabled aircraft on the
runway.

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Red tail moved quickly and we were able
to get that off the runway without too

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much trouble.
Although sky dive moment did have to

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land on the crosswind cuz they were in
the air when it happened so um

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just that way I but it was resolved
without incident. And it all went well.

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We also purchased a new um
pod razor. I don't know if any of you

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have seen us dragging those around but
it's thing we drag behind the truck and

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it just picks up all the gravel and fog.
The one we had was starting to get

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pretty worn out so we thought we'd
better buy a new one now

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while we had a little bit of revenue
there. They're more expensive than I

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thought they were going to be. They were
a couple of grand. So we bought another

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one but our plan is to use the one we
currently have until it is just

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no longer functioning at all.
And of course we've been using it quite

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a bit lately because all the
construction there's been additional fog

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that we've had to go out and make sure
we remove. And just remind all of you

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that if you get fog reports always
please give us a call let us know so

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that we can get out and get after it as
quickly as we can.

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We'll get into the uh
construction.

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Let's go through the numbers please and
then we'll start talking about the

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construction work so feel free to jump
in.

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So
again you can just check our takeoffs

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and landings versus
25 and 26

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and see that we've had a few more
operations um

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Our operations have increased over last
year. Not

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massively but a little bit.
Days of the week, again, no surprises

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there.
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where our slow days are.
Uh visiting versus based, and we are

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we're visiting out of Fort Lauderdale
International Airport. It used to be

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that way.
Although we did have a few more based

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out of that film this in this month's
report than we

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we've had in the past, in comparison.
They also have one way, surprises there.

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Tell which way the wind's blowing.
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landing same thing, it's just whichever
you're going and which one's all going

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around it.
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Um as you can see again, we continue to
be uh below last year.

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Uh not altogether
surprising as as a changeover has been

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made, and and people are changing their
plans.

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Uh
so, not shocked by it, but also I think

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it it held a little steadier this this
month than than I thought it would as

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compared to the previous month.
Um you know, this is the time of year

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when it starts to get hot as we've been
talking about, so it doesn't quite get

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as many
travelers coming in.

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Um red tails in plane minutes obviously
up over last year, so they're doing more

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of their flights. Um

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Palm Tour in plane minutes down pretty
significantly.

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Uh we've had
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Rachel could speak to this better, but
there have been some cancellations and

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some different issues with with some of
the flights.

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Although
one of the cancellations did result in

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everybody getting to fly in pretty much
a private jet. I was talking to a buddy.

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They they probably enjoyed that flight
uh as much as any flight they're ever

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going to have.
So, you can see that those are are going

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down. We would expect all of those to
start picking up again as the

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temperature changes.
Allegiant fuel sales well. They're

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they're doing pretty well with the lead.
But if you look at the numbers on the

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front page, you'll see the difference
between what we turn we make off of low

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lead
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the revenue that we get from jet
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it's pretty massive. 10 times possibly.
The jet fuel that we get 10 times the

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amount that we get from low lead. So our
low lead

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fuels are strong despite the fact that
we've had

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the uh construction project that we'll
get to in a second just drag on and on

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and
that has the policy problems with itself

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served
um but

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we'll probably see most of that decline
in next month's numbers if we see it at

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all.
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again, not a huge drop off over last
year but still still down over time and

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again
10 times more jet A than by 100 low

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lead. So jet A is the lead. Really kind
of where the money is for the airport.

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Uh
and you can see that on the front. So

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if you just look at the actual raw
numbers of fuel flow as you can see, you

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know
5,000

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bucks, 5,600 bucks off of
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It's clear that that jet fuel is
they're both important but the jet fuel

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is where we generate the most revenue.
So it's important that we keep that in

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mind.
Uh with that, let's let's go into the

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pavement and the issues we've been
having with um

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with current construction projects.
How many of you have not been out there

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to see the projects?

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You have not been out?
>> I'm not.

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» Okay.
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I'll let Jed speak to this but it should
have been done. I don't And been ready

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for On
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» We've been ready for it. We've been paid
for a very long time. And

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uh for some reason LeGrand cannot
get payment out to us. Supposed to be

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here today.
But I'll believe it when I see it.

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Didn't make it today. So, we're going to
start charging liquidated damages and uh

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judge will address that a little bit.
>> So, yeah. The contracts are written for

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liquidated damages when they extend
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uh
the scheduled construction time.

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Um [clears throat] and
it's not to say that any project should

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take longer or shorter. Here's the time
allotted for a project, and then the

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bids go corresponding to that. So, a
project could be 60 days,

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but it just as well could be scheduled
for 30 days. Just expect to pay 50% more

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for that project because they're going
to be working crews all the time.

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So, in this case, liquidated damages are
put in the contracts

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such that um in this case of this
project, it was a 45-day contract,

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and they were completely on schedule for
that

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until being delayed for paving
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» And And we were we were being
as kind about it as we possibly could

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because this contractor has done such a
good job. They They really have.

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Um TS Casey's been great. They They
had everything right to it right up

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until they subcontract to get the paving
done, and that's when we have run into

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problems. Yeah. Could you elaborate on
what happened out there today?

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» Uh today
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before paving happens, they deliver
what's called a mix design. So, there's

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certain specs that say, "Here's how many
sand versus small gravel versus slightly

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bigger gravel with percentages of oil."
And it has to meet certain

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specification. And they did that, and
what they submitted was going to be a

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good pavement
section. Uh

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what showed up in the trucks today
was So, trucks did come out today.

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And uh what showed up was not what it
was designed, and it was very can't be

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accepted. It was actually And it was to
a point where we didn't even have to

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push hard because we were not going to
accept it. Uh but they also recognized,

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"Yeah, this isn't
good asphalt. We don't want to put it

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down." Because they know if they had put
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we'd be talking about a rework.
>> Yeah, do you know will they be back

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tomorrow?
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the morning paving.
As it was today, as it was last week

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twice, as it was the week before.
>> Okay. Well, this has been very

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disruptive to our operations.
>> Well, we have the hangar blocked yet and

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self-serve.
>> I still would like them to do it in two

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lifts, though. I can't try and do it
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So, for
you know, obviously you always want to

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work well with a contractor,
um but you also have certain

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stipulations.
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the original plan on phase one So,
they're working on phase two now. Phase

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one is to do a lift
and then come back the next day and do a

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second lift.
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they had, they being the subcontractor,
had difficulties with their plant and

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were unable to work on the first day, do
the first day of paving, uh which

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corresponded to July 2nd.
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and or maybe the finishing
>> Was it decided that they

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» But they did
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lift at I did it all in one day.
>> And so, the first lift was great.

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The second lift was not because they did
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It counted as one day of one production
lot instead of having two separate days,

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two separate lots. And the asphalt, it
has a range where you want to make it

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you have, you know, here's bad, here's
perfect, and you can be a little bit

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more than perfect, but it has to fall
within this range.

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Now,
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it can fall right to the bottom of that
range, but if it's below that,

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everything is perfect. If it's below
that, you can get um

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deductions in what gets paid out.
Um when you do multiple lifts, multiple

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days, what that enables them to do is
today they only get paid 90%, but

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tomorrow they went above and beyond, so
they get 106%. They'll never pay get

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paid more than 100%.
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» For the total.
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But in this case, that first lift, they
got paid 50%.

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So, we're deducting
$133,000

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of
payment to TSJ, which would then be

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passed down to the government.
>> Just so you're aware, the the the

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payment did not fail. It was just at the
lower end of passing.

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So, had it failed, we would have just
had them tear it out. The problem is

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because they did it all in one day, we
couldn't have just had them tear off the

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4 in that that didn't work out very
good. It had now all mixed together.

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They would have had to take out all 8
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Um and because the 4 in on the bottom
was so good,

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um we feel like it's it's
it's okay to have it at the low end of

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good.
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we wouldn't have passed it if it had
failed. But it is going to save us uh

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quite a bit of money over the course of
the project, which is good because we've

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had a couple of change orders that we've
had to uh put in on the previous

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project, such as the manhole covers.
Um you know, there's just been some

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little things, pipes, the additional
piping. So, as it turns out, even with

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the change order showing that we're
paying more at the end of the day

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actually the county share is going to be
less than was projected. We will have

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saved money over the whole course of the
project.

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» Um in terms of what is scheduled,
tomorrow morning start paving and do the

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first lift. Okay. It will be compacted,
it'll be tested, and it'll be a

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standalone lot even though it's
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really really small for one lot.
Uh the lot being the tons of pavement

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going in.
Uh and then the intent is Wednesday do

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day number two of paving where they will
pave that top

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lot and then uh ideally get things open
as quick as possible after that. In term

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quick as possible would be looking at
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» So this appears
>> And so how far behind schedule are they?

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» Right now they're 11 days over schedule.
>> The big difference was

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weeks.
>> It was not as impactful there because it

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was all in it was out in the middle of
nowhere. So it wasn't in the middle

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blocking businesses, blocking the access
of the ARFF truck to the

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runway.
>> It wasn't any place where you could I

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mean you can assign liquidated dam-
damages just tentatively,

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but there were no actual damages because
it was all brand new stuff that we

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hadn't had before. Whereas this there
are actual damages being incurred.

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Um so yeah, we told them today when it
didn't show up that

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liquidated damages would be assessed. So
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it does will go to
the prime contractor. Uh

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the that is their purview or not to pass
it on to their pavement contractor same

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as with the
uh reduction in pay for the asphalt. We

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don't get a
You don't get a bill that we process

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uh from LaGrande for doing the paving.
They give it to TSJ, TSJ gives it to

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you, we process it with that payment to
that payment.

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Uh,
>> And for that reason, we we tried to be

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as nice about this possible cuz TSJ has
been so good to to work with, but um,

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the LeGrand's portion of it has not
worked out very well.

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For the second project in a row.
>> And ancillary to that, uh, TSJ actually

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is entering
by next season they're also entering

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into the, uh, pavement
manufacturer and production and layout.

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So, they're going to have their own
pavers.

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» That's good.
>> Or

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uh, as we talked to Adam, so
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it just makes another player in this
region of the state which benefits

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everything from city streets to
um, there always.

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» Any questions on the on the project?
Before I go back and talk about

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something I forgot to talk about, but I
just I was down here. We did have a weed

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spraying incident as well.
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apparently the the handle of the weed
sprayer that we used popped off, the

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hose got loose inside one of our trucks.
Hosed down the truck, sprayed JP

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completely with, um,
with herbicide.

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Uh,
Mark got on the phone with everybody

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that we could possibly think of to find
out if there was any risk or danger to

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anybody.
Um, and then we contacted the county

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weed uh,
department, and they were supposed to

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come do training, but they haven't done
it yet. They're going to come out, look

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over our equipment, see if there's maybe
a better quick connect we can have,

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something to make sure that that doesn't
happen again while we're spraying weeds.

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just to make sure that we're doing all

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the training that we can cuz it could
have been bad. Luckily JP was wearing

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PPE, so he didn't get hit right in the
face with it, but he would have, um, had

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he not had the goggles on and and been
doing what he was supposed to do. So,

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um,
yeah, so I I wanted to make you aware of

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that that that what we're doing just I
think that we did in the incident. We

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got the truck cleaned out. We're still
waiting to find out, um,

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whether the fumes cuz it's soaked into
the cloth seats

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whether we need to replace those seats
or whether it's okay for us to continue

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using that vehicle.
Um, and if any of you have

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any contact, we've called Embry-Riddle.
We put the guy that can't get a

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completely straight answer, but we get
if we just put vinyl covers over those

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seats, they'll probably be okay.
Um, but that's why you won't see the one

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vehicle out doing weed spray much. And
you might see it parked out in the sun

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with the doors open while we just kind
of let things kind of bake and see if we

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can't clear it out a little bit.
Um, as far as land side goes, it's just

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been regular maintenance. Um,
mostly just, uh,

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weeds and also terminal cleaning.
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we haven't had the Sky Harbor
Moab people in our bathrooms anymore, so

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they took care of that issue for us. So,
our people haven't had to go in and

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clean up behind them.
And, uh, still working on those minimum

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standards and release agreements with
our county attorney. Uh,

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again, I think as we talked about
before, leases are pretty much kind of

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not much we can do with them,
uh, the way that we can adjust the way

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those leases work is through minimum
standards and rules and regs. So, we're

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still trying to piece together each
section that needs to be rewritten and

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we definitely don't want to like, uh,
reinvent the wheel. There are there are

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airports that have good minimum
standards in place. So, we're kind of

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looking at other minimum standards of
similar airports.

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Uh, and when I have something to show
you, I will and then we'll start doing

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some some public meetings about
everybody contributing something to to

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what they feel about it as well. I think
that's important.

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That's where we are.
>> Can I ask you a question?

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The lights on the new around the
outside,

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when will they when will they be used
and what are they for?

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» The ramp lights?
>> Yeah.

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» Okay, well we just barely got the
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meter in, so they're usable now. Just
ramp lighting.

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Uh we we do have two of them that are in
a place that makes it kind of difficult

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for the helicopters. Some helicopter
pilots are for landing on the helicopter

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pads, some are not. But yeah, it's just
ramp lighting if anybody is out there at

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night bringing their aircraft in.
>> How do you turn them on?

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» They go on automatically.
>> Oh, so they're on all night. So I

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thought I I drove by the airport at
midnight last night and they were on.

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They were lit up like a Christmas tree.
>> Now that was one thing I was going to I

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kind of mention is there's like two
different color lights. Like the

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» Of the new ones?
>> Yeah. Like

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» Are you sure it's not just the angle
you're looking at?

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» Well, no the other ones are kind of
orangish, you know, kind of um

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orange color and then the new ones are
bright white, you know, like you can

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definitely see
um

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» All the new ones should be the same
though.

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» Yeah, the new ones are all the same, but
they just don't match. They just don't

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match the other light giant or the other
um

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» The lenses are lenses.
>> Which isn't a big deal, but it was

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it was definitely um
>> They're different kinds of bulbs.

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» Yeah, different kinds of bulbs cuz they
had to meet local lighting standards cuz

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of the
dark sky light requirements for lumens

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and stuff like that. That's within the
codes now.

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» So the new lights definitely
>> The old lights don't perform dark sky

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best I can tell.
>> And the ones with the helicopter, we are

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aware so they weren't designed and
there's

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the leap legally laid out which is what
they are not being

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too close to the runway to impede on
runway airspace, but it is designed for

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a hover taxi. The way a helicopter
There's The way helicopters should fly

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and there were It was the way
helicopters do fly.

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So, those are laid out for how a
helicopter should fly. As a helicopter

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comes into the airport, it should land
on the runway. So, come down, approach

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the runway, doesn't have to touch down,
but then hover taxi.

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And that's why there are those lead-in
lines with the numbers that are painted

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on them are described for to
specifically lead-in line and the size

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of helicopters that can fit into that
location.

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Now, if someone wants to fly direct to
them, yeah, there's going to be some big

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holes in the middle of it.
>> I didn't mean to suggest that they

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weren't put in the right place.
>> No, but it But, it does look like

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It absolutely looks like, "Why are they
there?" Because someone can't fly

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directly to it. Well, part of that deals
with

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um you know, addressing fog.
Helicopter that is not paved to the

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north and to the west of those
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helicopter parking spots,
so if they came in direction of that, it

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would be blowing a lot of fog onto the
taxiway and onto the helicopter parking

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spots. And then once they land, it's
going to push out and hit every plane

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around. But, if they land on the runway,
hover taxi over the taxiway, and use the

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lead-in lines,
then they can rotate around.

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» a decent fog removal tool when they
>> Exactly.

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» Yeah, they
>> And so,

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» Unfortunately, about the only people
that follow that are the military

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because of how much air they blow
around. But, the the thing I worry about

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if somebody does come in from the west
with the hoods on those lights, they

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block the night sky. Uh they may not see
them. Uh there are red lights on the

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other side of the lines on the other
side of the runway. I do worry about

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somebody coming in there at night.
>> Like I said, I'm

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It It It meets every FAA specification.
Whether or not we want to keep those

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there long-term, we can discuss.
>> I think

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» One possibility maybe is uh
if they're not

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legally tall enough to need striping,
but

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you know, the red and white
Christmas, you know, candy cane

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candy cane those poles
>> And for some reason they're reflective.

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» They're reflective.
>> They're reflective.

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» I mean, if you're coming from the east,
they're pretty visible because of the

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way the lights are, but when you're
coming from the west, they're

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» And the downside and the reason military
will fly appropriately when they have

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to.
>> Yeah.

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» Uh but also
uh a lot of times they'll be flying

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under night vision. And
those lights, you're not going to pick

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them up in thermal.
>> Oh.

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» Because they're
>> LED.

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» They're LED. They're not going to put
off the heat to pick up thermal. We're

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actually seeing that across the board
with all of uh approach lights like

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copies.
They used to be highly visible in

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thermal, but now they're not.
Because

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they're not putting off any heat.
>> So, they don't

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» So, definitely aware
and

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» They'll get heaters inside of it because
they don't know the size.

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» Then I have one one lease question also.
>> Yeah.

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» Uh
all of the leased buildings went out

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this month.
Uh do you get to review all those before

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they go out?
>> No.

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At least I haven't. I probably could
request that I get them before they go

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out.
>> Yeah, I think we probably should.

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» You know, there are budgets. What we get
and we're trying to correct this with

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the way finance reports to us
is we get [clears throat]

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a lump billing. This is what we bill and
then Sarah's had to actually go in and

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ask for a breakdown. Who was billed and
when? Otherwise, it just kind of goes

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out. So, we're trying to correct that
problem right now.

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» Yeah, but I'm not sure what I what I'm
seeing is maybe not unclear on um the

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number of cents per square foot.
Okay. Uh and I'm just wondering who

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figures that out and how they figure
that out.

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» Well, most of the leases that are
already signed were were

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were signed based on the square footage
at the time.

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» yeah, yeah, they are. But the question
is is who does that work?

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» Well, for all new leases it'll be me.
>> Okay, so so you tell them

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it's 23 cents a square foot on
And this is how many square footage it

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is. It's this much and
>> That's the one that's the same on all

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That's one of the things we want to
adjust with our fee schedule is to make

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sure that
>> I'm not sure that's true.

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» the leases Well, they're it's not true
right now.

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» I I understand. Okay, so
I don't What are you trying to get?

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» Okay, I'm just trying to figure out our
our process of understanding whether the

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right amount's being charged. Okay, when
somebody comes in for a new lease, we

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take what's on our fee schedule, the
last time that it was updated, then we

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add the CPI increases based on the
government CPI. And so what that comes

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out to is what we charge per square
foot. Then we look at what then we look

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at what the size of the footprint of the
building is and we charge them for the

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footprint of the building.
>> Okay, and you so you you do that

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calculation and send it to the
county.

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» Yes.
>> To be That was my question. How does

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that work?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, as we do new leases,

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that's the way that they will be done.
>> Yeah. Are they Are they done that way

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now?
>> Yeah. I don't want to talk about how how

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they were done before I got here. We
haven't We haven't

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» The two that
>> The two that I've had since I got here

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were already written and agreed upon
before I got here. But the ones that we

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do from here on out will be done exactly
the way I just told you.

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» Great, thank you.
>> The because one of the problems that we

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discovered was no two people in the
airport pay the same.

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It doesn't feel like
anybody's paying the same amount and I

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want to standardize that through our fee
schedule and our middle seat.

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» So that begins probably next year then.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Or as soon as we can get it. As soon as

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we can get it done.
>> Because this this year's already

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happened, I think. So.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay, got it.
Thank you.

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» You're welcome.
>> Uh okay.

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You That's That's a Okay. You know?
>> Yeah, there's not a ton going on at the

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county right now. I might as well say
that we're getting ready to start our

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internal audit.
And that will be on restricted funds, so

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that will affect and that will dig into
the funds at the airport.

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» They contacted me about it.
>> They did already?

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» They were ready.
>> Great.

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» Julie or somebody from this firm.
>> Perfect. So, that'll be ongoing and

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that's not just the airport, but the
internal audit will look at all of the

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restricted funds, but
the one that really affects us at the

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airport here, so
>> Yeah, no, we're happy to have them do

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it. It'll
It'll help us with

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» Make sure the funds stay at the airport
that are generated at the airport.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah, not much going on. It's hot.

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Everything's slow.

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All I got.
>> Is that it?

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» Uh, a few things in the city. Um, the
city is still working on on our water

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tank project. Because I had to come back
to the county um, for some public

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hearings that um
>> Tomorrow?

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» Tomorrow.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay. For some public hearings that
needed to be addressed, so that's going

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to happen tomorrow. Then hopefully the
commission will make a They'll make a

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decision at that time on the water tank.
Um, the city did implement um, an

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ordinance um, for watering times, you
know, um

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that's going to be
citywide. That only involves um, the

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Moab city culinary water that's used for
watering lawns, you know, or outside

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irrigation. That you can't water from
10:00 a.m. um, to 6:00 p.m. And then

430
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:36,600
that You can water after 6:00 p.m. and
um, 10:00 a.m. each day. So, and that

431
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:40,440
only involves culinary water. So, it
doesn't involve lawn irrigation or

432
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:44,520
wells, you know, or anything like that.
So,

433
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:47,280
um and then um
and [clears throat] then we also

434
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:53,720
approved a a $1.2 million dollar
contract um to do a bunch of upgrades on

435
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:57,960
the M-track on the pool
um and on the city building which you

436
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,640
know um
is

437
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,400
you know the pool's
um

438
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,720
starting to get a little bit age and
then things are starting to kind of fall

439
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:12,920
apart there so a lot of things like
recoding pipes, putting in new pipes, um

440
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:19,720
putting in new boilers, you know, um
putting in um new lights, putting in um

441
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,800
um the bathrooms never had ventilation
systems, you know, so especially like

442
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,120
the showers and stuff were never
ventilated so it was just growing black

443
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:31,960
mold, you know, and stuff so this will
go in and they're going to put in um

444
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:37,280
bands and vents to to kind of protect
that and make it so that it's

445
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:42,040
better smell smell better smell better,
yeah, smell better and not worry about

446
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,680
getting the black mold. Um
so um

447
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,000
so it's
that's also to be done.

448
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,400
I think basically that will be done by
December stuff so a lot of big stuff

449
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,840
there. There's a lot of a lot of stuff
that needs to be put into the pool you

450
00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:01,080
know kind
of our

451
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,080
and yeah, that's about it.

452
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,680
» Pardon?
>> We didn't have a meeting last month so I

453
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,680
have no report.

454
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,080
» Judge
Did we proceed anything but it covered

455
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680
that all
>> I covered it. The only other thing

456
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,640
that's
with ongoing projects

457
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:23,200
are working with the FA to push the
entrance road uh to next year

458
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:28,840
construction uh and bidding and whatnot
um and then the fire truck it's being

459
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:33,520
the truck itself is being built and
there's been a lot of traffic over the

460
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:40,480
last week uh got everything of the Buy
American clauses cleaned up for the

461
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:45,280
equipment. So there were technically two
projects bid for the fire truck, number

462
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:50,920
one, fire truck number two, everything
that goes into a fire truck, tanks,

463
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:55,400
um hoses, axes,
uh special fire extinguisher stuff like

464
00:30:52,680 --> 00:31:00,480
that. Uh Oshkosh is building the truck,
Rosenbauer is doing the equipment.

465
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:04,520
We got everything all worked out now.
And uh

466
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:09,720
they will be looking to get
a payment

467
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,920
or an invoice from the county.
>> I'll get that.

468
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,040
So
>> That's the one.

469
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,480
» And Mark will go back there during the
construction, also.

470
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,960
During the final phase of construction,
we'll send Mark back to Oshkosh to look

471
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:27,600
over the final product. That's just how
it's always done.

472
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:31,640
» They'll they'll get an invoice
from the county. I don't understand. I

473
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,400
would think that the county would get an
invoice.

474
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,400
» County getting that payment.
>> Oh, now it's it's getting that process.

475
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,280
» They'll bill the county.
>> Yeah, and then it can be up to the

476
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:45,200
limit. They won't
You can't

477
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,680
bill until stuff is delivered with a
caveat on stuff like this where

478
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:54,440
they can get some of the money up front
before stuff gets delivered.

479
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440
» Do we have a date, yet?

480
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,840
» I don't have a final date on when it'll
be done. At least not the one that I

481
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,360
know of.
>> I I do

482
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,600
We do not yet have a date on it.
>> They've just given us kind of

483
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200
» Come on.
>> Roughly?

484
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,880
» Yeah.
Well, yeah, it'd be roughly the first of

485
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880
next year.

486
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,240
» Any on the drainage study?

487
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,800
» You're talking about the
>> utility

488
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,880
» utility study?
>> Well, we're we were looking at a study

489
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800
that looked at drainage
>> Well, it's all yeah, yeah, all

490
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,240
utilities.
>> infrastructure stuff.

491
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:30,760
» Yeah. Um I don't have an update on it.
We do have a proposal from Lockmiller

492
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,520
and
it's just a matter of getting the money

493
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600
and going through CIB process, which
I've talked to Mark about.

494
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840
» Is that something we
that

495
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,920
that
that where where would money for that

496
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,840
come from?
>> Well, we're hoping we can get some of

497
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:49,400
them from the CIB fund. Uh it's going to
It would be about $100,000 just to have

498
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:53,880
the the utility master plan done.
So, if we go to the CIB fund, that's a

499
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,200
50% match. So, we could get 50,000 of it
there.

500
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,640
Uh and then we would just have to go
find the other 50.

501
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,120
» So, we have to do something for the
budget cycle this year?

502
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,640
» Yes.
We're going to have to try and add

503
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,200
something into the budget.
>> For

504
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,240
» That's right away, right?
>> Well, we wouldn't add it for this year.

505
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,040
We'd add it for the first of next
>> 2017.

506
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,720
» Unless we can have it still on
>> We've already been working working on

507
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,520
next year's budget.
>> No, yeah. No, yeah. No, yeah. That I get

508
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,280
that. It's
>> I'm not sure when the airport's

509
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,000
» Putting it in for the next one.
>> Yeah.

510
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,560
» We're working on budget.
>> We'll try to get that

511
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,560
» Okay. So, you think it's about it?
That's all the proposals about 100

512
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,120
» About
a little bit less, yeah.

513
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:36,920
» Can Can you kind of put a circle around
that? Describe what that is.

514
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,520
» I think it's sending you the scope.
>> And cuz they've already given me the

515
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:44,440
scope.
>> And in essence, here's your airport. You

516
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,280
have a whole lot of pipes, wires,
water, sewage.

517
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,680
» Good.
>> Where is it? Just Just right now, no one

518
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,560
knows where it's at.
>> So, this is a

519
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,560
Is this at a level where we where you
know all of where all the pipes are?

520
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Here's a proposal or is this just a
proposal to find the pipes?

521
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,760
» Well, it's a combination of both.
>> You got to do both. You got to find

522
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:08,200
where the pipes are now so that you can
plan ahead for what future growth.

523
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:12,639
» Do your pipes Do your pipes meet Do they
even meet your current demands?

524
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,760
What about future demands?
Um

525
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:20,720
does your
uh waste water meet current and future

526
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:23,080
Can we look at those sizing?
I think so.

527
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,120
» Why don't we do this? Why don't we uh
make it a future item

528
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,320
uh for next month and you can maybe
present that. Scope.

529
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,840
» Yeah, we can present the scope.
>> But

530
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:36,679
» So, so all on the board for what what
we're doing.

531
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,679
» Right. Okay. Thank you.

532
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,760
» Uh
let's see.

533
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:44,760
Any other reports?

534
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:51,560
» I have one minor one.
Um I'm wearing a shirt that says Loc

535
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Air, but for the last year we've been
Loc Air and Aegis Company. Just so

536
00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:00,320
everyone's aware that if you get an
email from me after today, it will come

537
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:04,600
from jud.hill@aegisgroup.com.
So, we're doing our brand transition

538
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:09,040
over this month.
So, when you see stuff coming from

539
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:14,680
Aegis, it's still us, same exact people
doing the same stuff, just all have a

540
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,680
different color shirt.

541
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:22,800
» Every other year it's like a shirt.
Engineers change names and get bought

542
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:27,640
out more than any other group I know of.
>> So, this should be the last one ever cuz

543
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,960
there's no one left that's big enough to
buy us.

544
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,600
All right. But, you will see some
change. So, if you're on emails or if

545
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,720
you have you're on a list for a meeting,
you'll probably get a new invite for

546
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,040
those meetings because the system will
change from Loc Air to Aegis.

547
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,760
So, that'll definitely affect our
schedule meetings and stuff like that.

548
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:49,720
» Do we all get shirts now?
>> I still want Aegis.

549
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,719
» I will get you a shirt.
>> [laughter]

550
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,760
» Okay, uh Steve
or or whoever on

551
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,240
» Well, we're doing the SkyWest SkyWest
transition. Um

552
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:08,920
As they start trying to ramp up, there's
been some issues with current um Contour

553
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:13,280
employees that might want to work with
SkyWest, but the the training times

554
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:18,160
aren't matching up. So, it's making it
hard for current Contour employees to go

555
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,600
to work for SkyWest. So, I'm trying to
work with Cody to see if we can resolve

556
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:29,320
some of that, but they've started hiring
and um are starting the training. So,

557
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,720
that's it's moving forward come
come October 1st ready or not that's

558
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,760
what we're
It looks like the earliest you can

559
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:39,880
schedule when I looked at it today was
about the 7th.

560
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:44,920
Well, the 7th would be when Denver when
United would start.

561
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:48,760
United has a longer training period so
they just couldn't condense it anymore.

562
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:52,960
If Salt Lake starts on the 1st
Seattle start Salt Lake starts on the

563
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:59,960
1st Denver starts on the 7th
and their IT people have been out there

564
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:04,440
trying to work out cabinet space
and trying to get the [snorts] IT side

565
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:08,120
of it set up what screens and monitors
will be needed for branding.

566
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,880
I still don't know for sure how they're
going to handle the branding of the two

567
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,920
separate
entities

568
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,200
but they're still trying to work through
some of those issues as well.

569
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,920
That's
all I've got for you on that one right

570
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,280
now.
All right,

571
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:33,480
I wanted to keep the sign on the the
airport we'll call it the we're calling

572
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:38,080
it the airport monument sign.
And the idea here

573
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,320
is just to
remind you

574
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:46,080
we had talked about having a digital
sign that doesn't appear to be

575
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,560
a
again it's against county ordinances to

576
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,080
do that
but

577
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:57,000
the other the other possibility is
what I'll I'll call the