[0:45] Billy, you're ready now.
[0:50] » Rock and roll.
>> All right.
[0:52] » Call this meeting of the Grand County
Airport Board
[0:56] in session. It's 4:00.
[1:00] And
first order of business
[1:04] Oh, one bit bit of information. Van Horn
says we have to leave early.
[1:10] » Okay.
>> What I've heard.
[1:13] » Yeah, we have a hard out at 5:00. So
>> Yeah.
[1:17] So
So you know, we'll we'll try to I I
[1:19] don't see a reason why we can't do that.
So first of all, citizens to be heard?
[1:25] » We have any have any citizens
online or otherwise if you want to say
[1:30] something?
[1:33] » I guess not. All right.
First order of business, approve the
[1:37] minutes from July 6th.
Here a motion to
[1:41] approve?
>> On the calendar.
[1:43] » To approve minutes from July 6th.
>> I second.
[1:45] » Seconded by Dan.
All in favor?
[1:49] » I I
>> I
[1:51] » Unanimous.
[1:54] All right. On to the director's report.
>> [clears throat]
[1:57] » I'm looking at the numbers on house and
pets okay and go through that so I just
[2:01] talk a little bit first about a couple
of incidents we had.
[2:04] We did have a disabled aircraft on the
runway.
[2:09] Red tail moved quickly and we were able
to get that off the runway without too
[2:13] much trouble.
Although sky dive moment did have to
[2:16] land on the crosswind cuz they were in
the air when it happened so um
[2:21] just that way I but it was resolved
without incident. And it all went well.
[2:28] We also purchased a new um
pod razor. I don't know if any of you
[2:33] have seen us dragging those around but
it's thing we drag behind the truck and
[2:37] it just picks up all the gravel and fog.
The one we had was starting to get
[2:42] pretty worn out so we thought we'd
better buy a new one now
[2:46] while we had a little bit of revenue
there. They're more expensive than I
[2:49] thought they were going to be. They were
a couple of grand. So we bought another
[2:53] one but our plan is to use the one we
currently have until it is just
[2:58] no longer functioning at all.
And of course we've been using it quite
[3:03] a bit lately because all the
construction there's been additional fog
[3:06] that we've had to go out and make sure
we remove. And just remind all of you
[3:10] that if you get fog reports always
please give us a call let us know so
[3:14] that we can get out and get after it as
quickly as we can.
[3:20] We'll get into the uh
construction.
[3:27] Let's go through the numbers please and
then we'll start talking about the
[3:30] construction work so feel free to jump
in.
[3:34] So
again you can just check our takeoffs
[3:37] and landings versus
25 and 26
[3:41] and see that we've had a few more
operations um
[3:47] Our operations have increased over last
year. Not
[3:51] massively but a little bit.
Days of the week, again, no surprises
[3:56] there.
Um
[3:58] where our slow days are.
Uh visiting versus based, and we are
[4:04] we're visiting out of Fort Lauderdale
International Airport. It used to be
[4:07] that way.
Although we did have a few more based
[4:10] out of that film this in this month's
report than we
[4:13] we've had in the past, in comparison.
They also have one way, surprises there.
[4:20] Tell which way the wind's blowing.
Uh
[4:23] landing same thing, it's just whichever
you're going and which one's all going
[4:26] around it.
So, in plane minutes
[4:31] Um as you can see again, we continue to
be uh below last year.
[4:35] Uh not altogether
surprising as as a changeover has been
[4:41] made, and and people are changing their
plans.
[4:44] Uh
so, not shocked by it, but also I think
[4:47] it it held a little steadier this this
month than than I thought it would as
[4:51] compared to the previous month.
Um you know, this is the time of year
[4:56] when it starts to get hot as we've been
talking about, so it doesn't quite get
[4:59] as many
travelers coming in.
[5:03] Um red tails in plane minutes obviously
up over last year, so they're doing more
[5:07] of their flights. Um
[5:11] Palm Tour in plane minutes down pretty
significantly.
[5:15] Uh we've had
I mean,
[5:17] Rachel could speak to this better, but
there have been some cancellations and
[5:21] some different issues with with some of
the flights.
[5:24] Although
one of the cancellations did result in
[5:27] everybody getting to fly in pretty much
a private jet. I was talking to a buddy.
[5:32] They they probably enjoyed that flight
uh as much as any flight they're ever
[5:35] going to have.
So, you can see that those are are going
[5:39] down. We would expect all of those to
start picking up again as the
[5:43] temperature changes.
Allegiant fuel sales well. They're
[5:48] they're doing pretty well with the lead.
But if you look at the numbers on the
[5:52] front page, you'll see the difference
between what we turn we make off of low
[5:56] lead
versus
[5:58] the revenue that we get from jet
and it's
[6:03] it's pretty massive. 10 times possibly.
The jet fuel that we get 10 times the
[6:08] amount that we get from low lead. So our
low lead
[6:11] fuels are strong despite the fact that
we've had
[6:15] the uh construction project that we'll
get to in a second just drag on and on
[6:19] and
that has the policy problems with itself
[6:23] served
um but
[6:26] we'll probably see most of that decline
in next month's numbers if we see it at
[6:31] all.
Uh and then jet A
[6:35] again, not a huge drop off over last
year but still still down over time and
[6:40] again
10 times more jet A than by 100 low
[6:44] lead. So jet A is the lead. Really kind
of where the money is for the airport.
[6:49] Uh
and you can see that on the front. So
[6:54] if you just look at the actual raw
numbers of fuel flow as you can see, you
[6:58] know
5,000
[7:02] bucks, 5,600 bucks off of
uh low lead versus 18,000 off of jet A.
[7:08] It's clear that that jet fuel is
they're both important but the jet fuel
[7:14] is where we generate the most revenue.
So it's important that we keep that in
[7:18] mind.
Uh with that, let's let's go into the
[7:22] pavement and the issues we've been
having with um
[7:26] with current construction projects.
How many of you have not been out there
[7:29] to see the projects?
[7:33] You have not been out?
>> I'm not.
[7:35] » Okay.
Um
[7:37] I'll let Jed speak to this but it should
have been done. I don't And been ready
[7:40] for On
>> 23rd.
[7:42] » We've been ready for it. We've been paid
for a very long time. And
[7:46] uh for some reason LeGrand cannot
get payment out to us. Supposed to be
[7:52] here today.
But I'll believe it when I see it.
[7:55] Didn't make it today. So, we're going to
start charging liquidated damages and uh
[8:00] judge will address that a little bit.
>> So, yeah. The contracts are written for
[8:03] liquidated damages when they extend
beyond
[8:07] uh
the scheduled construction time.
[8:11] Um [clears throat] and
it's not to say that any project should
[8:14] take longer or shorter. Here's the time
allotted for a project, and then the
[8:19] bids go corresponding to that. So, a
project could be 60 days,
[8:24] but it just as well could be scheduled
for 30 days. Just expect to pay 50% more
[8:29] for that project because they're going
to be working crews all the time.
[8:33] So, in this case, liquidated damages are
put in the contracts
[8:36] such that um in this case of this
project, it was a 45-day contract,
[8:43] and they were completely on schedule for
that
[8:47] until being delayed for paving
phase two.
[8:51] » And And we were we were being
as kind about it as we possibly could
[8:56] because this contractor has done such a
good job. They They really have.
[9:01] Um TS Casey's been great. They They
had everything right to it right up
[9:05] until they subcontract to get the paving
done, and that's when we have run into
[9:09] problems. Yeah. Could you elaborate on
what happened out there today?
[9:13] » Uh today
So, when
[9:17] before paving happens, they deliver
what's called a mix design. So, there's
[9:21] certain specs that say, "Here's how many
sand versus small gravel versus slightly
[9:26] bigger gravel with percentages of oil."
And it has to meet certain
[9:30] specification. And they did that, and
what they submitted was going to be a
[9:35] good pavement
section. Uh
[9:38] what showed up in the trucks today
was So, trucks did come out today.
[9:44] And uh what showed up was not what it
was designed, and it was very can't be
[9:51] accepted. It was actually And it was to
a point where we didn't even have to
[9:54] push hard because we were not going to
accept it. Uh but they also recognized,
[9:59] "Yeah, this isn't
good asphalt. We don't want to put it
[10:03] down." Because they know if they had put
it down,
[10:06] we'd be talking about a rework.
>> Yeah, do you know will they be back
[10:10] tomorrow?
>> The plan is to be on site first thing in
[10:14] the morning paving.
As it was today, as it was last week
[10:19] twice, as it was the week before.
>> Okay. Well, this has been very
[10:23] disruptive to our operations.
>> Well, we have the hangar blocked yet and
[10:28] self-serve.
>> I still would like them to do it in two
[10:30] lifts, though. I can't try and do it
>> No, the the plan is still for two lifts.
[10:34] So, for
you know, obviously you always want to
[10:38] work well with a contractor,
um but you also have certain
[10:41] stipulations.
Uh
[10:44] the original plan on phase one So,
they're working on phase two now. Phase
[10:48] one is to do a lift
and then come back the next day and do a
[10:52] second lift.
Um
[10:55] they had, they being the subcontractor,
had difficulties with their plant and
[11:00] were unable to work on the first day, do
the first day of paving, uh which
[11:05] corresponded to July 2nd.
Um
[11:11] and or maybe the finishing
>> Was it decided that they
[11:15] » But they did
>> decided then to do instead of two lifts,
[11:18] lift at I did it all in one day.
>> And so, the first lift was great.
[11:24] The second lift was not because they did
it all in one day.
[11:28] It counted as one day of one production
lot instead of having two separate days,
[11:33] two separate lots. And the asphalt, it
has a range where you want to make it
[11:40] you have, you know, here's bad, here's
perfect, and you can be a little bit
[11:44] more than perfect, but it has to fall
within this range.
[11:47] Now,
and
[11:49] it can fall right to the bottom of that
range, but if it's below that,
[11:54] everything is perfect. If it's below
that, you can get um
[11:59] deductions in what gets paid out.
Um when you do multiple lifts, multiple
[12:05] days, what that enables them to do is
today they only get paid 90%, but
[12:10] tomorrow they went above and beyond, so
they get 106%. They'll never pay get
[12:14] paid more than 100%.
But
[12:17] » For the total.
>> For the total.
[12:19] But in this case, that first lift, they
got paid 50%.
[12:23] So, we're deducting
$133,000
[12:28] of
payment to TSJ, which would then be
[12:32] passed down to the government.
>> Just so you're aware, the the the
[12:35] payment did not fail. It was just at the
lower end of passing.
[12:39] So, had it failed, we would have just
had them tear it out. The problem is
[12:43] because they did it all in one day, we
couldn't have just had them tear off the
[12:46] 4 in that that didn't work out very
good. It had now all mixed together.
[12:50] They would have had to take out all 8
in.
[12:53] Um and because the 4 in on the bottom
was so good,
[12:58] um we feel like it's it's
it's okay to have it at the low end of
[13:02] good.
So,
[13:04] we wouldn't have passed it if it had
failed. But it is going to save us uh
[13:08] quite a bit of money over the course of
the project, which is good because we've
[13:12] had a couple of change orders that we've
had to uh put in on the previous
[13:16] project, such as the manhole covers.
Um you know, there's just been some
[13:21] little things, pipes, the additional
piping. So, as it turns out, even with
[13:25] the change order showing that we're
paying more at the end of the day
[13:29] actually the county share is going to be
less than was projected. We will have
[13:33] saved money over the whole course of the
project.
[13:37] » Um in terms of what is scheduled,
tomorrow morning start paving and do the
[13:42] first lift. Okay. It will be compacted,
it'll be tested, and it'll be a
[13:47] standalone lot even though it's
technically
[13:50] really really small for one lot.
Uh the lot being the tons of pavement
[13:56] going in.
Uh and then the intent is Wednesday do
[14:00] day number two of paving where they will
pave that top
[14:04] lot and then uh ideally get things open
as quick as possible after that. In term
[14:11] quick as possible would be looking at
Thursday or Friday.
[14:16] » So this appears
>> And so how far behind schedule are they?
[14:19] » Right now they're 11 days over schedule.
>> The big difference was
[14:24] weeks.
>> It was not as impactful there because it
[14:28] was all in it was out in the middle of
nowhere. So it wasn't in the middle
[14:32] blocking businesses, blocking the access
of the ARFF truck to the
[14:36] runway.
>> It wasn't any place where you could I
[14:38] mean you can assign liquidated dam-
damages just tentatively,
[14:42] but there were no actual damages because
it was all brand new stuff that we
[14:46] hadn't had before. Whereas this there
are actual damages being incurred.
[14:51] Um so yeah, we told them today when it
didn't show up that
[14:55] liquidated damages would be assessed. So
>> And
[15:00] it does will go to
the prime contractor. Uh
[15:06] the that is their purview or not to pass
it on to their pavement contractor same
[15:11] as with the
uh reduction in pay for the asphalt. We
[15:16] don't get a
You don't get a bill that we process
[15:20] uh from LaGrande for doing the paving.
They give it to TSJ, TSJ gives it to
[15:27] you, we process it with that payment to
that payment.
[15:31] Uh,
>> And for that reason, we we tried to be
[15:34] as nice about this possible cuz TSJ has
been so good to to work with, but um,
[15:39] the LeGrand's portion of it has not
worked out very well.
[15:43] For the second project in a row.
>> And ancillary to that, uh, TSJ actually
[15:49] is entering
by next season they're also entering
[15:54] into the, uh, pavement
manufacturer and production and layout.
[15:59] So, they're going to have their own
pavers.
[16:00] » That's good.
>> Or
[16:01] uh, as we talked to Adam, so
um,
[16:05] it just makes another player in this
region of the state which benefits
[16:10] everything from city streets to
um, there always.
[16:15] » Any questions on the on the project?
Before I go back and talk about
[16:20] something I forgot to talk about, but I
just I was down here. We did have a weed
[16:23] spraying incident as well.
Um,
[16:26] apparently the the handle of the weed
sprayer that we used popped off, the
[16:30] hose got loose inside one of our trucks.
Hosed down the truck, sprayed JP
[16:36] completely with, um,
with herbicide.
[16:39] Uh,
Mark got on the phone with everybody
[16:42] that we could possibly think of to find
out if there was any risk or danger to
[16:46] anybody.
Um, and then we contacted the county
[16:49] weed uh,
department, and they were supposed to
[16:52] come do training, but they haven't done
it yet. They're going to come out, look
[16:55] over our equipment, see if there's maybe
a better quick connect we can have,
[16:59] something to make sure that that doesn't
happen again while we're spraying weeds.
[17:03] Um,
just to make sure that we're doing all
[17:05] the training that we can cuz it could
have been bad. Luckily JP was wearing
[17:10] PPE, so he didn't get hit right in the
face with it, but he would have, um, had
[17:15] he not had the goggles on and and been
doing what he was supposed to do. So,
[17:19] um,
yeah, so I I wanted to make you aware of
[17:23] that that that what we're doing just I
think that we did in the incident. We
[17:26] got the truck cleaned out. We're still
waiting to find out, um,
[17:30] whether the fumes cuz it's soaked into
the cloth seats
[17:34] whether we need to replace those seats
or whether it's okay for us to continue
[17:37] using that vehicle.
Um, and if any of you have
[17:42] any contact, we've called Embry-Riddle.
We put the guy that can't get a
[17:46] completely straight answer, but we get
if we just put vinyl covers over those
[17:50] seats, they'll probably be okay.
Um, but that's why you won't see the one
[17:55] vehicle out doing weed spray much. And
you might see it parked out in the sun
[17:59] with the doors open while we just kind
of let things kind of bake and see if we
[18:04] can't clear it out a little bit.
Um, as far as land side goes, it's just
[18:08] been regular maintenance. Um,
mostly just, uh,
[18:13] weeds and also terminal cleaning.
Um,
[18:17] we haven't had the Sky Harbor
Moab people in our bathrooms anymore, so
[18:22] they took care of that issue for us. So,
our people haven't had to go in and
[18:25] clean up behind them.
And, uh, still working on those minimum
[18:29] standards and release agreements with
our county attorney. Uh,
[18:33] again, I think as we talked about
before, leases are pretty much kind of
[18:38] not much we can do with them,
uh, the way that we can adjust the way
[18:41] those leases work is through minimum
standards and rules and regs. So, we're
[18:44] still trying to piece together each
section that needs to be rewritten and
[18:48] we definitely don't want to like, uh,
reinvent the wheel. There are there are
[18:53] airports that have good minimum
standards in place. So, we're kind of
[18:57] looking at other minimum standards of
similar airports.
[19:00] Uh, and when I have something to show
you, I will and then we'll start doing
[19:03] some some public meetings about
everybody contributing something to to
[19:08] what they feel about it as well. I think
that's important.
[19:14] That's where we are.
>> Can I ask you a question?
[19:17] The lights on the new around the
outside,
[19:21] when will they when will they be used
and what are they for?
[19:25] » The ramp lights?
>> Yeah.
[19:26] » Okay, well we just barely got the
uh
[19:31] meter in, so they're usable now. Just
ramp lighting.
[19:35] Uh we we do have two of them that are in
a place that makes it kind of difficult
[19:39] for the helicopters. Some helicopter
pilots are for landing on the helicopter
[19:43] pads, some are not. But yeah, it's just
ramp lighting if anybody is out there at
[19:47] night bringing their aircraft in.
>> How do you turn them on?
[19:51] » They go on automatically.
>> Oh, so they're on all night. So I
[19:54] thought I I drove by the airport at
midnight last night and they were on.
[19:58] They were lit up like a Christmas tree.
>> Now that was one thing I was going to I
[20:01] kind of mention is there's like two
different color lights. Like the
[20:05] » Of the new ones?
>> Yeah. Like
[20:07] » Are you sure it's not just the angle
you're looking at?
[20:09] » Well, no the other ones are kind of
orangish, you know, kind of um
[20:13] orange color and then the new ones are
bright white, you know, like you can
[20:17] definitely see
um
[20:20] » All the new ones should be the same
though.
[20:22] » Yeah, the new ones are all the same, but
they just don't match. They just don't
[20:24] match the other light giant or the other
um
[20:27] » The lenses are lenses.
>> Which isn't a big deal, but it was
[20:33] it was definitely um
>> They're different kinds of bulbs.
[20:35] » Yeah, different kinds of bulbs cuz they
had to meet local lighting standards cuz
[20:39] of the
dark sky light requirements for lumens
[20:42] and stuff like that. That's within the
codes now.
[20:45] » So the new lights definitely
>> The old lights don't perform dark sky
[20:48] best I can tell.
>> And the ones with the helicopter, we are
[20:52] aware so they weren't designed and
there's
[20:56] the leap legally laid out which is what
they are not being
[21:01] too close to the runway to impede on
runway airspace, but it is designed for
[21:05] a hover taxi. The way a helicopter
There's The way helicopters should fly
[21:09] and there were It was the way
helicopters do fly.
[21:12] So, those are laid out for how a
helicopter should fly. As a helicopter
[21:16] comes into the airport, it should land
on the runway. So, come down, approach
[21:21] the runway, doesn't have to touch down,
but then hover taxi.
[21:25] And that's why there are those lead-in
lines with the numbers that are painted
[21:29] on them are described for to
specifically lead-in line and the size
[21:33] of helicopters that can fit into that
location.
[21:36] Now, if someone wants to fly direct to
them, yeah, there's going to be some big
[21:39] holes in the middle of it.
>> I didn't mean to suggest that they
[21:42] weren't put in the right place.
>> No, but it But, it does look like
[21:45] It absolutely looks like, "Why are they
there?" Because someone can't fly
[21:49] directly to it. Well, part of that deals
with
[21:53] um you know, addressing fog.
Helicopter that is not paved to the
[21:58] north and to the west of those
uh
[22:01] helicopter parking spots,
so if they came in direction of that, it
[22:05] would be blowing a lot of fog onto the
taxiway and onto the helicopter parking
[22:10] spots. And then once they land, it's
going to push out and hit every plane
[22:12] around. But, if they land on the runway,
hover taxi over the taxiway, and use the
[22:17] lead-in lines,
then they can rotate around.
[22:21] » a decent fog removal tool when they
>> Exactly.
[22:25] » Yeah, they
>> And so,
[22:26] » Unfortunately, about the only people
that follow that are the military
[22:29] because of how much air they blow
around. But, the the thing I worry about
[22:33] if somebody does come in from the west
with the hoods on those lights, they
[22:37] block the night sky. Uh they may not see
them. Uh there are red lights on the
[22:43] other side of the lines on the other
side of the runway. I do worry about
[22:47] somebody coming in there at night.
>> Like I said, I'm
[22:50] It It It meets every FAA specification.
Whether or not we want to keep those
[22:55] there long-term, we can discuss.
>> I think
[22:58] » One possibility maybe is uh
if they're not
[23:03] legally tall enough to need striping,
but
[23:06] you know, the red and white
Christmas, you know, candy cane
[23:10] candy cane those poles
>> And for some reason they're reflective.
[23:13] » They're reflective.
>> They're reflective.
[23:15] » I mean, if you're coming from the east,
they're pretty visible because of the
[23:18] way the lights are, but when you're
coming from the west, they're
[23:20] » And the downside and the reason military
will fly appropriately when they have
[23:26] to.
>> Yeah.
[23:27] » Uh but also
uh a lot of times they'll be flying
[23:30] under night vision. And
those lights, you're not going to pick
[23:34] them up in thermal.
>> Oh.
[23:36] » Because they're
>> LED.
[23:37] » They're LED. They're not going to put
off the heat to pick up thermal. We're
[23:40] actually seeing that across the board
with all of uh approach lights like
[23:45] copies.
They used to be highly visible in
[23:47] thermal, but now they're not.
Because
[23:51] they're not putting off any heat.
>> So, they don't
[23:53] » So, definitely aware
and
[23:55] » They'll get heaters inside of it because
they don't know the size.
[24:00] » Then I have one one lease question also.
>> Yeah.
[24:03] » Uh
all of the leased buildings went out
[24:06] this month.
Uh do you get to review all those before
[24:10] they go out?
>> No.
[24:13] At least I haven't. I probably could
request that I get them before they go
[24:16] out.
>> Yeah, I think we probably should.
[24:19] » You know, there are budgets. What we get
and we're trying to correct this with
[24:23] the way finance reports to us
is we get [clears throat]
[24:26] a lump billing. This is what we bill and
then Sarah's had to actually go in and
[24:31] ask for a breakdown. Who was billed and
when? Otherwise, it just kind of goes
[24:35] out. So, we're trying to correct that
problem right now.
[24:38] » Yeah, but I'm not sure what I what I'm
seeing is maybe not unclear on um the
[24:44] number of cents per square foot.
Okay. Uh and I'm just wondering who
[24:48] figures that out and how they figure
that out.
[24:52] » Well, most of the leases that are
already signed were were
[24:55] were signed based on the square footage
at the time.
[24:58] » yeah, yeah, they are. But the question
is is who does that work?
[25:02] » Well, for all new leases it'll be me.
>> Okay, so so you tell them
[25:08] it's 23 cents a square foot on
And this is how many square footage it
[25:12] is. It's this much and
>> That's the one that's the same on all
[25:16] That's one of the things we want to
adjust with our fee schedule is to make
[25:20] sure that
>> I'm not sure that's true.
[25:21] » the leases Well, they're it's not true
right now.
[25:24] » I I understand. Okay, so
I don't What are you trying to get?
[25:28] » Okay, I'm just trying to figure out our
our process of understanding whether the
[25:32] right amount's being charged. Okay, when
somebody comes in for a new lease, we
[25:35] take what's on our fee schedule, the
last time that it was updated, then we
[25:38] add the CPI increases based on the
government CPI. And so what that comes
[25:43] out to is what we charge per square
foot. Then we look at what then we look
[25:48] at what the size of the footprint of the
building is and we charge them for the
[25:52] footprint of the building.
>> Okay, and you so you you do that
[25:55] calculation and send it to the
county.
[25:58] » Yes.
>> To be That was my question. How does
[26:00] that work?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, as we do new leases,
[26:03] that's the way that they will be done.
>> Yeah. Are they Are they done that way
[26:06] now?
>> Yeah. I don't want to talk about how how
[26:10] they were done before I got here. We
haven't We haven't
[26:13] » The two that
>> The two that I've had since I got here
[26:16] were already written and agreed upon
before I got here. But the ones that we
[26:20] do from here on out will be done exactly
the way I just told you.
[26:24] » Great, thank you.
>> The because one of the problems that we
[26:26] discovered was no two people in the
airport pay the same.
[26:30] It doesn't feel like
anybody's paying the same amount and I
[26:33] want to standardize that through our fee
schedule and our middle seat.
[26:37] » So that begins probably next year then.
>> Yeah.
[26:40] » Okay.
>> Or as soon as we can get it. As soon as
[26:42] we can get it done.
>> Because this this year's already
[26:44] happened, I think. So.
>> Yeah.
[26:46] » Okay, got it.
Thank you.
[26:48] » You're welcome.
>> Uh okay.
[26:52] You That's That's a Okay. You know?
>> Yeah, there's not a ton going on at the
[26:58] county right now. I might as well say
that we're getting ready to start our
[27:02] internal audit.
And that will be on restricted funds, so
[27:07] that will affect and that will dig into
the funds at the airport.
[27:11] » They contacted me about it.
>> They did already?
[27:13] » They were ready.
>> Great.
[27:14] » Julie or somebody from this firm.
>> Perfect. So, that'll be ongoing and
[27:18] that's not just the airport, but the
internal audit will look at all of the
[27:23] restricted funds, but
the one that really affects us at the
[27:27] airport here, so
>> Yeah, no, we're happy to have them do
[27:29] it. It'll
It'll help us with
[27:31] » Make sure the funds stay at the airport
that are generated at the airport.
[27:36] » Yeah.
>> Yeah, not much going on. It's hot.
[27:39] Everything's slow.
[27:44] All I got.
>> Is that it?
[27:47] » Uh, a few things in the city. Um, the
city is still working on on our water
[27:50] tank project. Because I had to come back
to the county um, for some public
[27:55] hearings that um
>> Tomorrow?
[27:57] » Tomorrow.
>> Yeah.
[27:57] » Okay. For some public hearings that
needed to be addressed, so that's going
[28:02] to happen tomorrow. Then hopefully the
commission will make a They'll make a
[28:05] decision at that time on the water tank.
Um, the city did implement um, an
[28:11] ordinance um, for watering times, you
know, um
[28:15] that's going to be
citywide. That only involves um, the
[28:19] Moab city culinary water that's used for
watering lawns, you know, or outside
[28:23] irrigation. That you can't water from
10:00 a.m. um, to 6:00 p.m. And then
[28:29] that You can water after 6:00 p.m. and
um, 10:00 a.m. each day. So, and that
[28:35] only involves culinary water. So, it
doesn't involve lawn irrigation or
[28:38] wells, you know, or anything like that.
So,
[28:41] um and then um
and [clears throat] then we also
[28:45] approved a a $1.2 million dollar
contract um to do a bunch of upgrades on
[28:51] the M-track on the pool
um and on the city building which you
[28:56] know um
is
[28:59] you know the pool's
um
[29:01] starting to get a little bit age and
then things are starting to kind of fall
[29:05] apart there so a lot of things like
recoding pipes, putting in new pipes, um
[29:10] putting in new boilers, you know, um
putting in um new lights, putting in um
[29:16] um the bathrooms never had ventilation
systems, you know, so especially like
[29:21] the showers and stuff were never
ventilated so it was just growing black
[29:25] mold, you know, and stuff so this will
go in and they're going to put in um
[29:29] bands and vents to to kind of protect
that and make it so that it's
[29:34] better smell smell better smell better,
yeah, smell better and not worry about
[29:39] getting the black mold. Um
so um
[29:43] so it's
that's also to be done.
[29:46] I think basically that will be done by
December stuff so a lot of big stuff
[29:50] there. There's a lot of a lot of stuff
that needs to be put into the pool you
[29:54] know kind
of our
[29:56] and yeah, that's about it.
[30:01] » Pardon?
>> We didn't have a meeting last month so I
[30:03] have no report.
[30:08] » Judge
Did we proceed anything but it covered
[30:10] that all
>> I covered it. The only other thing
[30:12] that's
with ongoing projects
[30:15] are working with the FA to push the
entrance road uh to next year
[30:19] construction uh and bidding and whatnot
um and then the fire truck it's being
[30:26] the truck itself is being built and
there's been a lot of traffic over the
[30:30] last week uh got everything of the Buy
American clauses cleaned up for the
[30:36] equipment. So there were technically two
projects bid for the fire truck, number
[30:42] one, fire truck number two, everything
that goes into a fire truck, tanks,
[30:48] um hoses, axes,
uh special fire extinguisher stuff like
[30:52] that. Uh Oshkosh is building the truck,
Rosenbauer is doing the equipment.
[30:58] We got everything all worked out now.
And uh
[31:01] they will be looking to get
a payment
[31:06] or an invoice from the county.
>> I'll get that.
[31:11] So
>> That's the one.
[31:13] » And Mark will go back there during the
construction, also.
[31:17] During the final phase of construction,
we'll send Mark back to Oshkosh to look
[31:21] over the final product. That's just how
it's always done.
[31:25] » They'll they'll get an invoice
from the county. I don't understand. I
[31:30] would think that the county would get an
invoice.
[31:32] » County getting that payment.
>> Oh, now it's it's getting that process.
[31:36] » They'll bill the county.
>> Yeah, and then it can be up to the
[31:39] limit. They won't
You can't
[31:42] bill until stuff is delivered with a
caveat on stuff like this where
[31:47] they can get some of the money up front
before stuff gets delivered.
[31:51] » Do we have a date, yet?
[31:54] » I don't have a final date on when it'll
be done. At least not the one that I
[31:58] know of.
>> I I do
[32:00] We do not yet have a date on it.
>> They've just given us kind of
[32:03] » Come on.
>> Roughly?
[32:05] » Yeah.
Well, yeah, it'd be roughly the first of
[32:07] next year.
[32:10] » Any on the drainage study?
[32:14] » You're talking about the
>> utility
[32:16] » utility study?
>> Well, we're we were looking at a study
[32:19] that looked at drainage
>> Well, it's all yeah, yeah, all
[32:22] utilities.
>> infrastructure stuff.
[32:24] » Yeah. Um I don't have an update on it.
We do have a proposal from Lockmiller
[32:28] and
it's just a matter of getting the money
[32:31] and going through CIB process, which
I've talked to Mark about.
[32:34] » Is that something we
that
[32:37] that
that where where would money for that
[32:39] come from?
>> Well, we're hoping we can get some of
[32:41] them from the CIB fund. Uh it's going to
It would be about $100,000 just to have
[32:46] the the utility master plan done.
So, if we go to the CIB fund, that's a
[32:51] 50% match. So, we could get 50,000 of it
there.
[32:54] Uh and then we would just have to go
find the other 50.
[32:58] » So, we have to do something for the
budget cycle this year?
[33:02] » Yes.
We're going to have to try and add
[33:04] something into the budget.
>> For
[33:06] » That's right away, right?
>> Well, we wouldn't add it for this year.
[33:09] We'd add it for the first of next
>> 2017.
[33:12] » Unless we can have it still on
>> We've already been working working on
[33:14] next year's budget.
>> No, yeah. No, yeah. No, yeah. That I get
[33:18] that. It's
>> I'm not sure when the airport's
[33:20] » Putting it in for the next one.
>> Yeah.
[33:21] » We're working on budget.
>> We'll try to get that
[33:25] » Okay. So, you think it's about it?
That's all the proposals about 100
[33:28] » About
a little bit less, yeah.
[33:30] » Can Can you kind of put a circle around
that? Describe what that is.
[33:35] » I think it's sending you the scope.
>> And cuz they've already given me the
[33:38] scope.
>> And in essence, here's your airport. You
[33:41] have a whole lot of pipes, wires,
water, sewage.
[33:45] » Good.
>> Where is it? Just Just right now, no one
[33:48] knows where it's at.
>> So, this is a
[33:50] Is this at a level where we where you
know all of where all the pipes are?
[33:54] Here's a proposal or is this just a
proposal to find the pipes?
[33:57] » Well, it's a combination of both.
>> You got to do both. You got to find
[34:01] where the pipes are now so that you can
plan ahead for what future growth.
[34:04] » Do your pipes Do your pipes meet Do they
even meet your current demands?
[34:10] What about future demands?
Um
[34:13] does your
uh waste water meet current and future
[34:18] Can we look at those sizing?
I think so.
[34:21] » Why don't we do this? Why don't we uh
make it a future item
[34:24] uh for next month and you can maybe
present that. Scope.
[34:28] » Yeah, we can present the scope.
>> But
[34:30] » So, so all on the board for what what
we're doing.
[34:33] » Right. Okay. Thank you.
[34:39] » Uh
let's see.
[34:41] Any other reports?
[34:45] » I have one minor one.
Um I'm wearing a shirt that says Loc
[34:50] Air, but for the last year we've been
Loc Air and Aegis Company. Just so
[34:53] everyone's aware that if you get an
email from me after today, it will come
[34:57] from jud.hill@aegisgroup.com.
So, we're doing our brand transition
[35:02] over this month.
So, when you see stuff coming from
[35:06] Aegis, it's still us, same exact people
doing the same stuff, just all have a
[35:11] different color shirt.
[35:14] » Every other year it's like a shirt.
Engineers change names and get bought
[35:19] out more than any other group I know of.
>> So, this should be the last one ever cuz
[35:25] there's no one left that's big enough to
buy us.
[35:30] All right. But, you will see some
change. So, if you're on emails or if
[35:33] you have you're on a list for a meeting,
you'll probably get a new invite for
[35:38] those meetings because the system will
change from Loc Air to Aegis.
[35:42] So, that'll definitely affect our
schedule meetings and stuff like that.
[35:45] » Do we all get shirts now?
>> I still want Aegis.
[35:49] » I will get you a shirt.
>> [laughter]
[35:54] » Okay, uh Steve
or or whoever on
[35:57] » Well, we're doing the SkyWest SkyWest
transition. Um
[36:01] As they start trying to ramp up, there's
been some issues with current um Contour
[36:07] employees that might want to work with
SkyWest, but the the training times
[36:10] aren't matching up. So, it's making it
hard for current Contour employees to go
[36:16] to work for SkyWest. So, I'm trying to
work with Cody to see if we can resolve
[36:20] some of that, but they've started hiring
and um are starting the training. So,
[36:25] that's it's moving forward come
come October 1st ready or not that's
[36:31] what we're
It looks like the earliest you can
[36:34] schedule when I looked at it today was
about the 7th.
[36:37] Well, the 7th would be when Denver when
United would start.
[36:42] United has a longer training period so
they just couldn't condense it anymore.
[36:46] If Salt Lake starts on the 1st
Seattle start Salt Lake starts on the
[36:50] 1st Denver starts on the 7th
and their IT people have been out there
[36:56] trying to work out cabinet space
and trying to get the [snorts] IT side
[37:01] of it set up what screens and monitors
will be needed for branding.
[37:06] I still don't know for sure how they're
going to handle the branding of the two
[37:09] separate
entities
[37:12] but they're still trying to work through
some of those issues as well.
[37:21] That's
all I've got for you on that one right
[37:23] now.
All right,
[37:26] I wanted to keep the sign on the the
airport we'll call it the we're calling
[37:30] it the airport monument sign.
And the idea here
[37:36] is just to
remind you
[37:39] we had talked about having a digital
sign that doesn't appear to be
[37:44] a
again it's against county ordinances to
[37:48] do that
but
[37:51] the other the other possibility is
what I'll I'll call the