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Okay, ready? Thank you all for

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your patience and welcome to

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our meeting of the Housing and

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Homelessness Committee. Today

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is August 5th. I'm joined by my

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colleagues, council members

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Blumenfield, McCosker and Hutt.

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If you could call the roll,

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Miss Jen. Yes, madam chair.

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Madam chair Raman, I am here.

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Madam, Council member

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Blumenfield present, Council

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member Hutt here. Council

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member McCosker here. Four

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members present and a quorum.

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Madam chair. Great. And welcome

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to Miss Girardeau as well. Here.

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Great. Thank you so much. So,

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thank you everyone. Today we

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have 12 items to consider on

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the agenda, but it should. Okay.

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I just wanted to, I know

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there's going to be a change in

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this committee. There was a

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motion put forward in city

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council which will bifurcate

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this committee again, one

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focused on housing and the

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other on homelessness and

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health, which is similar to the

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structure that was there before,

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2022. I'm not sure of all the

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changes and who's going to be

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on what committee, but I really

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did want to take an opportunity

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to thank every member of this

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committee for all the work that

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we've done over the last few

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years. It's really been a lot.

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Councilmember Blumenfield and I

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have been on this committee

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longest, but all of you have

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been on board for some really,

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really big changes, including

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passing some really big tenant

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protections in the city,

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changing how much our rent

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stabilized units can increase

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their rent. We've streamlined

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mixed income and affordable

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housing development. We've put

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forward lots of money for

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eviction, defense and

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affordable housing and

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preservation. And on the

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homelessness front, for the

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very first time here in the

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city of Los Angeles, we

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actually have brought greater

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accountability and data

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transparency. So a question

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that was asked over and over

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again, which is where is our

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money going and what is it

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doing? And using that data,

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which is now available for

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every month, repeated. And it

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is overseen by the Cao and the

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Homeless strategy Committee and

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used to actually make our

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system better. We've filled

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hundreds of empty beds,

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bringing our shelter beds from

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being, empty to now being only

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6% empty, 94% full. On any

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given night, we've filled

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permanent supportive housing

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units that we were building

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through H.h.h. They used to be

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72% full. Now they're over 90.

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We've made sure every Eehv

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voucher was used that we got

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from the Biden administration

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and housed thousands of people

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when we had fallen far behind

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on using those vouchers. And we

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ensured that people who were

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housed and dealing with

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potentially enormous funding

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clips during a really, really

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unpredictable environment,

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we're able to stay housed,

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including people who lost time

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limited subsidy vouchers. This

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committee's work actually

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ensured that they were able to

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stay housed. So I really want

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to lift up the work that we've

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done. I know there's a lot more

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to do. And I look forward to

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seeing how this council takes

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it on over the coming years.

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The agenda items today are

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fairly straightforward. We have

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a number of reappointments of

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people to the rent adjustment.

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That's items one through four.

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Item five is an agreement with

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a provider, to give us real

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estate and property ownership

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data for, for the housing

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department. And that's to

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essentially implement the Scap,

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the so and just cause ordinance

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program, among others. Item six

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is amending loan agreements for

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the Avalon Terrace and Nicolet

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Apartments. We're going to be

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able to use this change to keep

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those units affordable into the

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future, which is very exciting.

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Item seven is a temporary

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staffing services contract for

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enforcement operations under

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the. So Just Cause and Tenant

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anti-harassment ordinance,

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housing codes. Because there

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are still some vacancies at the

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housing department. Item eight

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is a motion from Councilmember

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Gerardo about Careplus

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operations during areas during

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times of environmental

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emergencies. Item nine is

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another motion from Council

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member Colorado, reporting on

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the handiwork or program that

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can provide support for senior

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citizens, with smoke, dealing

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with smoke remediation issues.

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Item ten is a motion from

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Council Member Rodriguez and

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Councilmember Blumenfield to

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report on the impacts of the

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county's Department of Homeless

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Services and Housing, becoming

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the lead of the region's

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continuum of care and Rs. In

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item 11 is a verbal update

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about the Emergency Housing

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Voucher program, which was

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about to see a funding cliff.

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people who have those vouchers

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are able to stay housed, so

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we're just providing a positive

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update here. And finally, a

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discussion item about the

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continuum of care Nofo and some

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changes from HUD that will

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impact our city's ability to

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get funds potentially. And an

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update from our partners at

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LAHSA, the CLA and others

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across the city on that. So

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with that, we can move to

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public comment. So if you'd

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like to provide us our

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instructions, we have our

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Spanish interpreter here. Hello.

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And to members of the public,

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you'll be provided your

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guidance to members of the

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public. When it is your turn to

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speak, please state the name

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you signed up under. Which of

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the agenda items you would like

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to speak on, and or whether you

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public comment. You have one

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minute per item, up to two

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agenda and one minute for

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general public comment. If you

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wish for a maximum speaking

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time of up to three minutes per

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person, please speak to the

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agenda items before beginning.

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General public comment. We will

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inform you when your time is up.

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When speaking on the agenda

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items, you must be on topic.

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When providing general public

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comment. You must only speak on

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items that are under the

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subject matter jurisdiction of

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this committee. Our goal is to

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get through as many speakers as

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we can. If you are not speaking

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on topic or if we cannot tell

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whether you are on topic,

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you'll get one brief warning

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from me or from the committee

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chair. If you do not

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immediately get clearly on

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topic, or if you stray off

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topic, you will forfeit the

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rest of your time. And we will.

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And we will move on to the next

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speaker. Thank you. Great. So

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if anyone wants to make public

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comment, please move to the

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left hand side of the chambers.

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And Sergeant will direct you to

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the podium. So my name is

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Kenneth Michael. Sorry, your,

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what items are you speaking on

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today? The homeless,

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everything's relevant. And, I

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don't understand why you,

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deleted my one on 711. You gave

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me no warning, so it

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contradicts. So go ahead. You

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have two minutes. Okay, well,

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7-Eleven. You deleted my

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statement, which tells me you

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don't work for the people, but

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the hierarchy of your system

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that screams communism. There

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are dangerous times we are

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living in. And if you can't

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even research without being

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attacked, like myself, because

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I got a punch and I fell on a

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fence, almost. Excuse me.

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Speaker, please stay on topic

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to what this committee deals

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with homelessness and housing.

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I'm trying to expose your lies.

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Without being attacked, by your

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cartel, the police, all you,

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your smith-mundt act is the

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only thing that saves you. And

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the news you spread and

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misinformation. Because I see

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police bus covering up, things

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that you're trying to hide out

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in a community that's trying to

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survive and working together

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because you left us on the side

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of the road, and you just look

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and drive past us every minute.

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Like ultimate, 1 billion, $700,

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and, it goes to the mayor's

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fund, $1 billion, 700 million.

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And that goes to a spa, a

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different spa. AM I speaking on

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subject? Your your police cover

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up? I say you are incompetent.

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You need to leave now. Call the

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National Guard. You do not know

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what you're doing. Your system,

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your AI systems. I went through

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epic Eleanor through the

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healthcare system. And, I, last,

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statement I did on 711. I like

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to, I can, I, can I finish. I'm

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sorry, speaker, we have to move

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on to the next well, Tory said.

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Thank you, speaker, if there's

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any other speakers, if you can

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make your way to the left side

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of the chambers. Going once.

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Going twice. Okay. I think we

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can close public comment. And.

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I was going to recommend that

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we take items one through ten

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on consent, unless members have

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comments or questions, Madam

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Chair. Oh, sure. Yes.

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Councilmember Hutt, go ahead. I

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would like to call item seven

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for separate vote item seven.

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For a separate vote. Okay,

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great. Any other. Yes.

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Councilmember Blumenfield go

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ahead, call ten special for an

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amendment item ten special for

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an amendment. Okay, so let's do

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items one through six, eight

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and nine on consent unless

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there's any issues. Okay. Miss

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Jan, if you could call the roll

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on those items. Yes, madam

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chair, shall I, read the agenda

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descriptions for one items one

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through six, as well as eight

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and nine before calling the

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roll if or. Okay, well, if

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you'd like to, yes, I can

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summarize real quick. Items one

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through four are commission

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reappointments to the Rent

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Adjustment Commission. Item

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number one is for Doctor

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Loraine Lundquist. Item two is

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for, Mr. Gerard Gunzburg. Item

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three is for, miss Carol

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Brogdon. Item four is for miss

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Dash stellaris, and item number

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five is a city administrative

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officer report, for an

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agreement with first Data.

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First American Data Tree, LLC,

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item six. Is a Los Angeles

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Housing Department report, and

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this is amending loan

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agreements for the Avalon

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Terrace and Nicolet Apartments

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in council districts ten and 15.

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Item number eight is motion

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head Otto Hernandez. And that

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is, regarding care plus

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operations. And item nine is

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motion had Otto Lee. And that

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is regarding instructing the

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Los Angeles Housing department,

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with the community investment

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department to report back on

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the handy worker program

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funding. And those are those

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items. So it's one through six,

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eight through nine. And I shall

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call the roll, Madam Chair

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Gerardo, I mean, Madam Chair

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Raman. Yes. Council member Otto

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here. Yes. Council member Blum.

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Blumenfield Blumenfield. Aye.

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Council member hut! Aye.

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Council member Mcosker. Yes.

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Five. Aye. Items one through

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six, eight and nine are

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approved. Okay, let's do item

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seven then. Item seven. For the

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record, let me just describe it

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real quick. Item seven is a

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city administrative officer

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report relative to a contract

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for temporary staffing services

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for the Los Angeles Housing

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Department rent division. And

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I'll call the role now, Madam

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Chair Raman. Yes, Madam Chair,

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I mean, Council member Hurtado.

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Yes. Council member.

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Blumenfield. Aye! Council

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member. Hut! No. Council member.

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Mcosker. Yes. Four ayes one. No.

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Item seven is approved. Great.

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Thank you very much. Let's move

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on to item ten. I don't think

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there's a discussion, just an

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amendment. So if you want to

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write. What's that. Did you

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want a discussion on item ten.

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I just wanna make a few

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comments and then I'll tell you

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what the amendment is. And I

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mean, great, let's, let's, we

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can read item ten into the

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record and then yeah. Miss Jen.

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Yes. So item ten. Item ten is

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motion Rodriguez aye

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Blumenfield relative to the

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chief Legislative analyst, with

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the assistance of the city

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administrative Officer, Los

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Angeles Housing Department, and

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the Los Angeles Homeless

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Services Authority to report on

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the impacts of the county's

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Department of Homeless Services

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and Housing, becoming the lead

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of the region's continuum of

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care and the coordinated entry

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system. Okay, Councilmember

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Blumenfield, this is actually

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your your motion, is that

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correct? I'm second on the

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motion. Okay, great. Maybe I

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could. Yeah, please, please go

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ahead. So part of this is

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understanding how much funding

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the city will potentially lose

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if the county becomes the lead

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for the LA region and trying to

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get information to understand

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that, good, bad, indifferent.

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We want to know the realities.

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It's we know there's going to

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be administrative efficiencies,

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because the county contracts

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with the same providers that we

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do in the city and the LA COC

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and the county has measure a

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funding for staffing to

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administer contracts. But we

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need to hear from the service

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providers, although it may be

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unlikely that they're going to

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share their concerns so clearly

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because, they're also their,

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their funding depends on, on,

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on this. So I wanted to just, I

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have a report back to get a

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little bit more in depth on

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some of the questions that we

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need to know. It's, you know,

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often whoever controls the

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money controls the beds. When

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it comes to the regional, the

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region. I mean, I just

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experienced this this weekend.

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There was somebody I was trying

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to get into housing, right,

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right near my house who was out.

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And, we wanted to put them in

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the bridge home that we, we

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spent money on as a city and

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partnered with the county for,

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but we were informed that now

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because of the changes, now

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LAHSA is no longer matching.

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It's now the county that does

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the direct matching. So all of

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a sudden we don't have control

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over who can go into the bridge

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home that we've been using for

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years. And that we as a city

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put a lot of money into. So in

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order for the LA to respond to

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this motion and the governance

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issues in general, we need as a

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council to establish goals,

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that we want to achieve, which

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gives us a framework to

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negotiate with the county on a

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future MOU or JPA. So for me,

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there's critical things

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accessing PSH beds built in the

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city, sometimes with city money

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not being locked out of those

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beds because the county funds

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the Icms dealing with the SES

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policy set by the city and the

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county. Getting an assessment

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tool for PSH that is

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established by the city and the

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county. Co-equal status with

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the county and decision making,

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city involvement in the

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development of the nofo and

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selection city, access to data.

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And if the county does take

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over LA COC, does it make sense

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for the city to also access

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champ and other county data

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sources from an accountability

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standpoint? So in order to help

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get it, all of that I have

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asking for an amendment which

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will include a report back that

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specifically includes, but not

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limited to the impacts to

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funding and the city's direct

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access to that funding.

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Accessing PSH beds built in the

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city, report back also on the

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co-equal status board

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representation between the city

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and the county and also a

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report back on, on as part of

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that, the shared decision

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making in establishing the

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assessment tool for PSH, the

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SES policy nofo and selection

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process and the data sharing

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policy. Again, this is all

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report backs. It's just to

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flesh a little bit more out on

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what we want to get answered.

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Council member Blumenfield, I

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believe you're the amendment

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that you shared here also

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includes referrals to interim

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sites. Yes. Okay. Which is I

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don't think that was on this

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note, but definitely because

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that that's what just came up

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recently. Yes. Adding that in

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there. Thank you. Great. So

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I'll second that amendment. And

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unless there's any other, I

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think this is a really

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important motion and really

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important questions that you're

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asking. And, we have been

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realizing over the past few

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weeks that as we've kind of

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dealt with the city's

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administration of shelter beds

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in our own district, that

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suddenly matching is just no

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longer with LAHSA. And we were

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just informed of that. We

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weren't after we were asking

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about specific individuals and

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changes and things like that.

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We weren't proactively informed

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about that. So I think this

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kind of, motion is going to be

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really important to help us

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make sure that we're best

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positioned to manage the system.

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So with that, I'd like to call

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the roll. Madam chair. Raman.

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Yes. Council member Hirano yes.

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Council member. Blumenfield.

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Aye. Council member. HUD. Aye.

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Council member. Mcosker. Yes.

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Five ayes. Item ten is approved

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as amended. Okay, great. Let's

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move on to item 11. If you want

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to read that into the record,

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Miss Jen. Yes. Item 11 is a

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verbal update from HR and A

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advisors and the Housing

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Authority of the City of Los

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Angeles regarding identifying

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funding solutions to ensure

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that families and individuals

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housed can remain housed, and

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the feasibility of implementing

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a local subsidy program that

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does not rely on federal

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funding sources to keep

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individuals. House colleagues.

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I wanted to bring this to the

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committee because this is

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another moment in which the

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kind of the advanced work done

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by both the departments and

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this committee was able to

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allow us to have some good news,

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just like people who lost time,

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limited subsidy funding. LAHSA.

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Hacla, and the housing

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department, CLA cao were all

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able to work with our providers

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to make sure that those time

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limited subsidy reductions did

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not result in people moving

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back to the streets. It

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actually ended up resulting in

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people moving into permanent

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00:22:19,738 --> 00:22:23,308
housing or into

567
00:22:21,239 --> 00:22:24,776
self-sufficiency. In a

568
00:22:22,307 --> 00:22:26,311
coordinated effort. We were

569
00:22:23,375 --> 00:22:27,379
able to plan for that and do

570
00:22:24,843 --> 00:22:28,680
that. And I'm really, really

571
00:22:26,378 --> 00:22:30,382
excited about that. This is

572
00:22:27,445 --> 00:22:31,950
another instance where we have

573
00:22:28,747 --> 00:22:34,552
some good news, which is that

574
00:22:30,449 --> 00:22:36,087
our emergency housing vouchers

575
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:37,389
program, a Covid era program

576
00:22:34,619 --> 00:22:39,491
that was about to run out of

577
00:22:36,154 --> 00:22:40,959
money and potentially leave

578
00:22:37,456 --> 00:22:43,461
3000 plus people in the city,

579
00:22:39,558 --> 00:22:44,562
7000 people across the entire

580
00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:46,765
county without funding for

581
00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:47,933
housing that they had moved

582
00:22:44,629 --> 00:22:49,801
into. That crisis has been

583
00:22:46,832 --> 00:22:50,869
averted. So I just wanted to

584
00:22:47,999 --> 00:22:51,903
make sure Hecla was able to

585
00:22:49,868 --> 00:22:53,171
report back, since that was

586
00:22:50,935 --> 00:22:56,474
something that this committee

587
00:22:51,969 --> 00:22:58,276
had asked about. This

588
00:22:53,238 --> 00:22:59,644
presentation will be brief. But

589
00:22:56,541 --> 00:23:02,346
I just, you know, I think it's

590
00:22:58,343 --> 00:23:06,217
important to close the loop on

591
00:22:59,710 --> 00:23:07,519
these questions. So take it

592
00:23:02,413 --> 00:23:09,421
away. Hacla and HR, a great.

593
00:23:06,284 --> 00:23:11,923
Thank you. Good afternoon,

594
00:23:07,586 --> 00:23:12,924
Madam Chair and council members.

595
00:23:09,488 --> 00:23:14,092
My name is Marcy Vega. I am the

596
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:15,293
director of the assisted

597
00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:18,029
housing programs for the

598
00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:21,199
Housing Authority of the City

599
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:23,101
of Los Angeles. And I'm here

600
00:23:18,096 --> 00:23:24,836
today with my I was going to

601
00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:26,671
say colleague, but friend,

602
00:23:23,168 --> 00:23:28,840
Sarah Salon from HR and a

603
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:30,976
advisors to provide an update

604
00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:32,544
regarding our emergency housing

605
00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:34,546
voucher program and what is the

606
00:23:31,042 --> 00:23:36,014
status with respect to items

607
00:23:32,611 --> 00:23:37,715
that have been discussed here

608
00:23:34,613 --> 00:23:40,017
previously. So we have a brief

609
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:41,486
slide presentation that we can

610
00:23:37,782 --> 00:23:43,388
walk through with you. And so I

611
00:23:40,084 --> 00:23:45,123
think first what I'd like to do

612
00:23:41,553 --> 00:23:48,993
is just kind of take us all

613
00:23:43,454 --> 00:23:51,863
back, and just kind of frame

614
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:54,098
the challenge. So Hacla

615
00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:55,867
administers the second largest

616
00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:58,703
emergency housing voucher

617
00:23:54,165 --> 00:24:01,339
program that supports

618
00:23:55,934 --> 00:24:03,741
approximately 2700 families

619
00:23:58,770 --> 00:24:05,210
households, which includes over

620
00:24:01,406 --> 00:24:06,745
4300 individuals. And as you

621
00:24:03,808 --> 00:24:09,881
all are well aware, federal

622
00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:12,083
funding for this program was

623
00:24:06,811 --> 00:24:15,320
set to expire this year. It

624
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:17,088
would have cost our agency

625
00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:18,456
approximately $57 million to

626
00:24:15,387 --> 00:24:21,793
continue rental assistance for

627
00:24:17,155 --> 00:24:22,927
these households once this

628
00:24:18,523 --> 00:24:26,097
funding expired and without

629
00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:28,633
intervention again, this group

630
00:24:22,994 --> 00:24:31,102
of individuals would have

631
00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:34,005
essentially faced eviction and

632
00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:35,139
return to homelessness. Next

633
00:24:31,169 --> 00:24:37,008
slide please. What was our

634
00:24:34,072 --> 00:24:38,876
response? And I really want to

635
00:24:35,206 --> 00:24:41,179
lift up this work that was

636
00:24:37,075 --> 00:24:43,314
carried out by our leadership.

637
00:24:38,943 --> 00:24:44,782
Our Chief Executive Officer,

638
00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:47,518
Lourdes Castro Ramirez, and our

639
00:24:43,381 --> 00:24:49,454
chief programs officer,

640
00:24:44,849 --> 00:24:51,256
Margarita Lara's. Immediately,

641
00:24:47,585 --> 00:24:53,458
our Board of commissioners

642
00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:54,893
promptly determined that

643
00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:57,395
addressing the needs of our ihv

644
00:24:53,525 --> 00:24:59,564
households would be a key

645
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:02,400
priority for the agency. I

646
00:24:57,462 --> 00:25:04,302
joined Hacla on February 2nd,

647
00:24:59,631 --> 00:25:06,937
and on that day, chair CEO

648
00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:08,773
Castro Ramirez sat with me and

649
00:25:04,369 --> 00:25:10,341
gave me what my top five items.

650
00:25:07,004 --> 00:25:13,912
And this was one of them. In

651
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:16,247
fact, it was number one to find

652
00:25:10,408 --> 00:25:18,683
a solution for our Ihv families.

653
00:25:13,979 --> 00:25:21,519
Following this, on July 1st,

654
00:25:16,313 --> 00:25:23,621
the City Council adopted a

655
00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:26,291
motion that directed Hacla to

656
00:25:21,586 --> 00:25:28,359
collaborate with local partners

657
00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:30,929
to explore and assess financial

658
00:25:26,357 --> 00:25:32,664
or other alternative financial

659
00:25:28,426 --> 00:25:34,098
solutions and options. Hacla

660
00:25:30,996 --> 00:25:35,166
also raised awareness with La

661
00:25:32,731 --> 00:25:36,834
Casa and as well as the

662
00:25:34,165 --> 00:25:39,170
leadership table of the

663
00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:40,605
regional impact of the number

664
00:25:36,901 --> 00:25:42,006
of individuals, not just for

665
00:25:39,237 --> 00:25:43,508
Hacla but for other housing

666
00:25:40,672 --> 00:25:45,643
authorities in the county that

667
00:25:42,073 --> 00:25:47,045
would be faced with eviction

668
00:25:43,575 --> 00:25:48,546
and a return to homelessness.

669
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:50,281
As a result of these

670
00:25:47,112 --> 00:25:53,952
discussions and our work, we

671
00:25:48,613 --> 00:25:56,387
were very fortunate that La

672
00:25:50,348 --> 00:25:58,156
Casa granted 5000 $500,000 to

673
00:25:54,019 --> 00:26:00,591
HRA and associates to assist

674
00:25:56,454 --> 00:26:03,695
Hacla and other housing

675
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:06,864
authorities in LA County region

676
00:26:00,658 --> 00:26:08,466
to develop a transition plan to

677
00:26:03,762 --> 00:26:11,202
support impacted households in

678
00:26:06,931 --> 00:26:13,371
stabilizing, enrolling in

679
00:26:08,533 --> 00:26:15,173
benefits and accessing services.

680
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:17,008
Our leadership continued to

681
00:26:13,438 --> 00:26:18,476
aggressively advocate across

682
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,613
federal, state and local

683
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:23,381
government levels, as well as

684
00:26:18,542 --> 00:26:25,950
at a national level, with the

685
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:28,152
U.S. Conference of Mayors,

686
00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:29,921
where our our mayor led a

687
00:26:26,017 --> 00:26:32,056
discussion on the Ihv program,

688
00:26:28,219 --> 00:26:33,924
as well as through our National

689
00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:35,660
Housing Authority advocacy

690
00:26:32,123 --> 00:26:37,862
organizations. And lastly, I

691
00:26:33,991 --> 00:26:40,365
want to highlight that during

692
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:42,533
this period of real uncertainty

693
00:26:37,929 --> 00:26:44,769
for families, we were very

694
00:26:40,432 --> 00:26:46,938
fortunate that we were able to

695
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,306
utilize our AmeriCorps

696
00:26:44,836 --> 00:26:51,142
volunteers who began their time

697
00:26:47,005 --> 00:26:54,012
with Hacla at the beginning of

698
00:26:48,372 --> 00:26:55,079
this year to provide ongoing

699
00:26:51,209 --> 00:26:57,248
direct support, to the

700
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:59,016
households during this period

701
00:26:55,146 --> 00:27:01,919
of uncertainty. And if you

702
00:26:57,315 --> 00:27:09,894
would allow me to have the

703
00:26:59,083 --> 00:27:11,729
AmeriCorps volunteer stand up.

704
00:27:01,986 --> 00:27:13,097
Wow. If you are familiar with

705
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:14,966
AmeriCorps, these are young

706
00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:17,435
individuals who are this is

707
00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:19,904
their first opportunity in

708
00:27:15,033 --> 00:27:22,140
public service. And so these

709
00:27:17,502 --> 00:27:24,676
are all individuals that really

710
00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:26,411
had the direct connection.

711
00:27:22,207 --> 00:27:29,714
Taking the phone calls from Ihv

712
00:27:24,743 --> 00:27:31,849
clients, meeting them in the

713
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:33,584
lobby, doing all that work to

714
00:27:29,781 --> 00:27:35,753
assure Ihv household members

715
00:27:31,916 --> 00:27:37,555
that we were going to find a

716
00:27:33,651 --> 00:27:38,757
solution. They were essentially

717
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:41,225
issuing, sending out

718
00:27:37,622 --> 00:27:42,260
newsletters, directing them to

719
00:27:38,823 --> 00:27:43,795
other resources, groceries.

720
00:27:41,292 --> 00:27:45,630
Here's another housing

721
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:46,964
authority that can assist you

722
00:27:43,862 --> 00:27:48,666
doing a lot of that direct

723
00:27:45,697 --> 00:27:49,867
client work that our advisors

724
00:27:47,031 --> 00:27:52,103
at times do not have that time

725
00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:53,771
to do and, and do that high

726
00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:55,940
level of engagement. Thank you

727
00:27:52,169 --> 00:27:57,108
so much to our AmeriCorps

728
00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:58,476
volunteers, AmeriCorps team.

729
00:27:56,007 --> 00:28:01,312
I'm really, really grateful for

730
00:27:57,174 --> 00:28:05,650
you. I knew about your work

731
00:27:58,543 --> 00:28:06,818
when it was happening, from

732
00:28:01,379 --> 00:28:08,720
Hacla. And, we're just, we're

733
00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:09,921
very, very proud to have had

734
00:28:06,884 --> 00:28:12,423
you as part of this process. So

735
00:28:08,786 --> 00:28:13,858
thank you very much. Thank you

736
00:28:09,988 --> 00:28:16,094
so much. And I think only

737
00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:17,896
through their efforts, we were

738
00:28:13,925 --> 00:28:19,997
able to stay in close contact

739
00:28:16,161 --> 00:28:21,466
with our ahv households. You

740
00:28:17,962 --> 00:28:23,968
know, the work of addressing

741
00:28:20,064 --> 00:28:26,104
homelessness and providing

742
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:28,206
housing to individuals who are

743
00:28:24,035 --> 00:28:29,707
cycling through homelessness.

744
00:28:26,171 --> 00:28:31,843
Oftentimes, individuals become

745
00:28:28,273 --> 00:28:32,911
disengaged from the program.

746
00:28:29,774 --> 00:28:35,046
And I think with our AmeriCorps

747
00:28:31,910 --> 00:28:36,514
volunteers, we were able to

748
00:28:32,977 --> 00:28:38,649
keep our households

749
00:28:35,113 --> 00:28:40,818
overwhelmingly engaged with

750
00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:42,620
Hacla. And so it meant that as

751
00:28:38,716 --> 00:28:44,088
we are transitioning, we are

752
00:28:40,885 --> 00:28:45,923
able to account for everyone

753
00:28:42,687 --> 00:28:48,426
because of the work that our

754
00:28:44,155 --> 00:28:49,527
AmeriCorps volunteers did. So

755
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:50,661
thank you for allowing me to

756
00:28:48,493 --> 00:28:52,764
recognize them. And for many,

757
00:28:49,594 --> 00:28:55,299
this is probably their first

758
00:28:50,728 --> 00:28:57,167
time here in this setting. So

759
00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:59,203
thank you. Next slide please.

760
00:28:55,366 --> 00:29:01,539
So, with all of that, pleased

761
00:28:57,234 --> 00:29:03,875
to announce, and I think you

762
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:06,778
already are well aware that,

763
00:29:01,606 --> 00:29:07,845
our agencies funding shortfall

764
00:29:03,942 --> 00:29:09,981
has ended. HUD officially

765
00:29:06,845 --> 00:29:13,618
determined that we are no

766
00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:15,052
longer in a funding shortfall

767
00:29:10,048 --> 00:29:16,888
due to higher than anticipated,

768
00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:20,191
appropriation levels and HUD

769
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:23,127
funding for our tenant based

770
00:29:16,955 --> 00:29:24,862
renewals. Therefore, with that,

771
00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:27,665
that equaled a 976 million that

772
00:29:23,194 --> 00:29:29,433
we are set to receive this

773
00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:32,270
calendar year. Based on our

774
00:29:27,732 --> 00:29:34,472
calculations, we are able to

775
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:36,974
transition all eehv households

776
00:29:32,337 --> 00:29:38,409
into our regular tenant based

777
00:29:34,539 --> 00:29:40,578
housing choice voucher program.

778
00:29:37,041 --> 00:29:43,514
Therefore, we are keeping

779
00:29:38,476 --> 00:29:45,750
families stably housed. That

780
00:29:40,645 --> 00:29:47,151
work began this week. We are

781
00:29:43,581 --> 00:29:49,120
able to essentially capture all

782
00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:50,688
of the eehv households, and we

783
00:29:47,217 --> 00:29:54,358
are now in the process of doing

784
00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:56,160
the administrative work to

785
00:29:50,755 --> 00:29:58,262
bring them into the hacla,

786
00:29:54,425 --> 00:29:59,530
portfolio. I'm also pleased to

787
00:29:56,227 --> 00:30:01,532
announce that our partner, LA

788
00:29:58,329 --> 00:30:03,668
County Development Authority,

789
00:29:59,597 --> 00:30:05,837
is able to do the same. So

790
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:08,339
between the city and the county,

791
00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:12,310
we are able to provide housing

792
00:30:05,904 --> 00:30:14,111
stability for thousands of eehv

793
00:30:08,406 --> 00:30:17,281
households. I also just want to

794
00:30:12,377 --> 00:30:18,783
call out to that as a result of

795
00:30:14,178 --> 00:30:21,319
our shortfall in 2025, we

796
00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:22,420
unfortunately had to suspend

797
00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:24,555
application processing for 3000

798
00:30:21,386 --> 00:30:26,157
individuals who had come off of

799
00:30:22,486 --> 00:30:27,758
our waiting list. And I'm also

800
00:30:24,622 --> 00:30:29,927
pleased to announce that we are

801
00:30:26,224 --> 00:30:32,830
also restarting the application

802
00:30:27,825 --> 00:30:34,999
review for these individuals as

803
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:36,067
well. Right now the big lift is

804
00:30:32,897 --> 00:30:38,135
moving all of the eehv

805
00:30:35,066 --> 00:30:39,637
households into the tenant

806
00:30:36,134 --> 00:30:41,439
based program. And right now we

807
00:30:38,202 --> 00:30:42,907
are designing the plans on how

808
00:30:39,704 --> 00:30:46,577
we're going to now restart

809
00:30:41,506 --> 00:30:49,680
application processing for

810
00:30:42,973 --> 00:30:51,115
these 3000 applicants. Next

811
00:30:46,644 --> 00:30:54,018
slide please. I think I also

812
00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:56,587
just want to call out that the

813
00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:59,857
work of transitioning our eehv

814
00:30:54,085 --> 00:31:03,060
households was made largely in

815
00:30:56,654 --> 00:31:05,630
part by the funding, but also,

816
00:30:59,924 --> 00:31:07,732
by the work that HUD did to

817
00:31:03,127 --> 00:31:09,533
make the process very easy for

818
00:31:05,696 --> 00:31:11,669
both the recipient and for the

819
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:13,804
housing authority. I'm pleased

820
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,673
to announce that with its

821
00:31:11,736 --> 00:31:17,108
guidance, HUD essentially

822
00:31:13,871 --> 00:31:19,076
allowed Eehv household members

823
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:21,279
who are going to remain in

824
00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:23,180
place not to really essentially

825
00:31:19,143 --> 00:31:26,484
do anything. In other words, we

826
00:31:21,346 --> 00:31:27,652
are able to do a couple of

827
00:31:23,247 --> 00:31:30,788
clicks of the, of our,

828
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:32,590
processing, but the families

829
00:31:27,718 --> 00:31:34,125
will not need to undergo an

830
00:31:30,855 --> 00:31:35,459
inspection, will not need to

831
00:31:32,657 --> 00:31:37,295
reverify their income. They

832
00:31:34,192 --> 00:31:38,396
will not need to go through

833
00:31:35,526 --> 00:31:40,531
background screening. The

834
00:31:37,362 --> 00:31:43,734
contract with the owner will

835
00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:46,738
remain the same. And so that

836
00:31:40,598 --> 00:31:48,072
type of flexibility makes it

837
00:31:43,801 --> 00:31:50,174
extremely, extremely, easy for

838
00:31:46,804 --> 00:31:52,343
the housing authority to

839
00:31:48,139 --> 00:31:54,879
complete this task and relieves

840
00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:56,847
our eehv families of a burden

841
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:59,917
of having to provide additional

842
00:31:54,946 --> 00:32:02,086
paperwork and become reverified

843
00:31:56,914 --> 00:32:03,554
all over again. I also want to

844
00:31:59,984 --> 00:32:04,989
say, lastly, that those eehv

845
00:32:02,153 --> 00:32:07,124
households that are perhaps

846
00:32:03,621 --> 00:32:08,659
still trying to get some

847
00:32:05,056 --> 00:32:10,394
paperwork in or are delinquent,

848
00:32:07,191 --> 00:32:11,495
our AmeriCorps volunteers are

849
00:32:08,725 --> 00:32:13,297
on the phone with those

850
00:32:10,461 --> 00:32:14,766
families, trying to get them

851
00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:16,234
and encourage them to come in,

852
00:32:13,364 --> 00:32:18,636
get your papers corrected, get

853
00:32:14,832 --> 00:32:21,905
in good standing so that you

854
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:23,374
can become part of Hackley's

855
00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:26,544
HCV program. This is just a

856
00:32:21,972 --> 00:32:27,878
point of information in terms

857
00:32:23,441 --> 00:32:30,047
of the impact to each of the

858
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:32,249
council districts, in terms of

859
00:32:27,945 --> 00:32:33,417
the number of eehv households

860
00:32:30,114 --> 00:32:35,553
who are going to remain stably

861
00:32:32,316 --> 00:32:37,455
housed. I think many of you

862
00:32:33,484 --> 00:32:39,890
have seen other iterations of

863
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:41,759
this when it was the opposite,

864
00:32:37,522 --> 00:32:42,760
right? The potential impact of

865
00:32:39,957 --> 00:32:44,562
families in your respective

866
00:32:41,826 --> 00:32:46,063
council districts that were

867
00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:47,131
going to become homeless? Well,

868
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:48,866
this is a reverse. These are

869
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:50,334
individuals who are going to

870
00:32:47,198 --> 00:32:55,306
remain stably housed as a

871
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:58,209
result of the work that we're

872
00:32:50,401 --> 00:33:00,044
currently doing. Lastly, I'm

873
00:32:55,373 --> 00:33:02,213
going to turn it over to, Sarah

874
00:32:58,276 --> 00:33:04,348
Salon to provide a brief update

875
00:33:00,111 --> 00:33:06,851
on exactly who it is that we

876
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:08,686
are helping based on the work

877
00:33:04,415 --> 00:33:10,221
that HR conducted with Hacla

878
00:33:06,918 --> 00:33:12,623
during this effort. Thank you

879
00:33:08,753 --> 00:33:14,458
so much, Marcy, and good

880
00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:15,826
afternoon, council members. So

881
00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:16,960
as part of the technical

882
00:33:14,525 --> 00:33:18,061
assistance that we have been

883
00:33:15,893 --> 00:33:20,231
doing to support Hacla, during

884
00:33:17,027 --> 00:33:20,998
this moment, we were able to

885
00:33:18,128 --> 00:33:23,067
learn a lot more about this

886
00:33:20,298 --> 00:33:24,869
population. Part of what we

887
00:33:21,064 --> 00:33:26,770
were trying to do was

888
00:33:23,134 --> 00:33:28,472
understand, their income, their

889
00:33:24,936 --> 00:33:31,709
likely ongoing housing needs,

890
00:33:26,837 --> 00:33:33,310
their ongoing service needs in

891
00:33:28,539 --> 00:33:35,178
order to, begin to build plans

892
00:33:31,776 --> 00:33:36,347
for them to possibly transition

893
00:33:33,377 --> 00:33:37,982
to other housing opportunities

894
00:33:35,245 --> 00:33:41,852
in the event that they were

895
00:33:36,414 --> 00:33:43,988
displaced, if there was no

896
00:33:38,049 --> 00:33:45,056
funding. So what we learned is

897
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:46,190
that, these households

898
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:48,325
currently supported by

899
00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:50,094
emergency housing vouchers are

900
00:33:46,257 --> 00:33:52,229
some of LA's most vulnerable

901
00:33:48,392 --> 00:33:53,797
renters. So nearly all

902
00:33:50,161 --> 00:33:56,767
households are 96% meet the

903
00:33:52,296 --> 00:33:59,737
criteria for low income or very

904
00:33:53,864 --> 00:34:01,338
low income, with 73% relying on

905
00:33:56,834 --> 00:34:04,075
a fixed income. A significant

906
00:33:59,804 --> 00:34:05,275
portion over a third include a

907
00:34:01,405 --> 00:34:07,344
person with a disability. Most

908
00:34:04,142 --> 00:34:09,113
of these households include

909
00:34:05,342 --> 00:34:11,282
just one adult, but seven, but

910
00:34:07,411 --> 00:34:13,117
about a quarter include more

911
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:14,185
than one family member. And

912
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:15,286
there are over a thousand

913
00:34:13,184 --> 00:34:16,754
children who are being

914
00:34:14,252 --> 00:34:20,024
supported through this program

915
00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:22,126
right now housed through this

916
00:34:16,821 --> 00:34:24,695
program. We also learned that

917
00:34:20,091 --> 00:34:25,796
nearly 75% of households

918
00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:27,164
currently supported by we were

919
00:34:24,762 --> 00:34:30,434
experiencing homelessness at

920
00:34:25,863 --> 00:34:32,937
the time of their program

921
00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:35,072
admission into the eehv system.

922
00:34:30,501 --> 00:34:37,508
And that when they were

923
00:34:33,004 --> 00:34:39,009
enrolled in an Eehv in the Eehv

924
00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:40,111
program, 50% had been assessed

925
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:41,579
and were eligible for permanent

926
00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:43,781
supportive housing, meaning

927
00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:45,516
that they had high acuity

928
00:34:41,646 --> 00:34:47,718
service needs. So this is just,

929
00:34:43,848 --> 00:34:49,520
I think, a really helpful

930
00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:51,322
picture of how vulnerable this

931
00:34:47,785 --> 00:34:54,158
population is, how wonderful it

932
00:34:49,586 --> 00:34:55,793
is that Hacla is able to

933
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:57,027
sustain housing for them, and

934
00:34:54,225 --> 00:34:58,496
by implication, how difficult

935
00:34:55,859 --> 00:35:00,664
it would have been in our

936
00:34:57,094 --> 00:35:01,732
current system to be able to

937
00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:03,935
find, other existing

938
00:35:00,731 --> 00:35:05,636
opportunities for these, these

939
00:35:01,799 --> 00:35:07,438
families to remain housed. And

940
00:35:04,001 --> 00:35:08,539
I'll just close by saying, I

941
00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:11,809
think our work with Hacla is

942
00:35:07,505 --> 00:35:13,978
ongoing. We're hoping to be

943
00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:16,814
able to, after these households

944
00:35:11,876 --> 00:35:17,882
transition over to, to hcbs to

945
00:35:14,044 --> 00:35:19,350
be able to help with some

946
00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:21,519
stability, some benefit

947
00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:22,953
enrollment, some service

948
00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:24,755
connection. And also now

949
00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:26,223
helping Hacla think about how

950
00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:28,759
they might be able to prepare

951
00:35:24,822 --> 00:35:30,194
for any other households that

952
00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:31,328
could be displaced by, federal

953
00:35:28,826 --> 00:35:33,030
funding or other housing

954
00:35:30,261 --> 00:35:34,465
changes. So we think we're

955
00:35:31,395 --> 00:35:37,001
developing a little bit of a

956
00:35:33,097 --> 00:35:38,435
replicable model here to deal

957
00:35:34,532 --> 00:35:41,272
with, shortfalls when we, when

958
00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:42,740
we know that they're coming.

959
00:35:38,502 --> 00:35:45,943
Thank you, thank you. That

960
00:35:41,339 --> 00:35:48,512
concludes our report. Thank you

961
00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:51,015
so much. And, are there

962
00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:53,584
questions from. Yes. So lots of

963
00:35:48,579 --> 00:35:55,352
questions. Great. Councilmember

964
00:35:51,082 --> 00:35:58,255
McCosker, go ahead. Thanks.

965
00:35:53,651 --> 00:35:59,690
Thank you very much for this.

966
00:35:55,419 --> 00:36:01,158
So with the probably two

967
00:35:58,322 --> 00:36:02,326
grossly simplified version of

968
00:35:59,757 --> 00:36:03,994
this, be that under the

969
00:36:01,225 --> 00:36:05,863
American Rescue Plan, we have

970
00:36:02,393 --> 00:36:07,965
the emergency vouchers. The

971
00:36:04,061 --> 00:36:10,868
vouchers were ending early

972
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:12,970
because of the bad stuff

973
00:36:08,032 --> 00:36:14,805
happening 3000 miles away or.

974
00:36:10,935 --> 00:36:17,308
And we converted emergency

975
00:36:13,037 --> 00:36:19,543
vouchers into housing

976
00:36:14,872 --> 00:36:23,414
assistance. And so we we. The.

977
00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:25,849
So the 500 grand that came from

978
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:27,384
the Casa was to advocate for

979
00:36:23,481 --> 00:36:29,119
allowing us to take the pot of

980
00:36:25,916 --> 00:36:30,420
money that we get for housing

981
00:36:27,451 --> 00:36:32,756
assistance and use that pot of

982
00:36:29,186 --> 00:36:34,558
money, which was maybe larger

983
00:36:30,487 --> 00:36:37,094
than we expected to do to

984
00:36:32,823 --> 00:36:39,330
convert folks from emergency

985
00:36:34,625 --> 00:36:42,233
vouchers under the under the

986
00:36:37,161 --> 00:36:43,801
former Program to Housing

987
00:36:39,397 --> 00:36:45,569
Assistance program. I'll go

988
00:36:42,299 --> 00:36:47,104
I'll go ahead and address the

989
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:49,006
first part. What, the funding

990
00:36:45,636 --> 00:36:50,808
that we received from the Casa

991
00:36:47,171 --> 00:36:53,978
for the technical assistance

992
00:36:49,073 --> 00:36:56,180
was exactly to actually help us

993
00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:59,350
draw up the plan B in the event

994
00:36:54,045 --> 00:37:01,952
that we did not receive enough

995
00:36:56,247 --> 00:37:04,121
funding to convert Ahv

996
00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:08,125
households to our regular HCV

997
00:37:02,019 --> 00:37:09,493
program. And we engaged in that

998
00:37:04,188 --> 00:37:11,028
work because of the delay in

999
00:37:08,192 --> 00:37:14,164
appropriations, we had several

1000
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:16,333
continuing resolutions. And

1001
00:37:11,094 --> 00:37:18,102
then even after passage of that

1002
00:37:14,231 --> 00:37:19,570
appropriations bill, HUD took

1003
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,971
longer than usual to provide

1004
00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:22,940
housing authorities with any

1005
00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:24,241
idea of what their funding was

1006
00:37:21,037 --> 00:37:26,043
going to was going to be. And

1007
00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:28,545
so we felt that we were

1008
00:37:24,308 --> 00:37:29,646
essentially running out of time.

1009
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:31,482
And so La Casa was helping us

1010
00:37:28,612 --> 00:37:33,317
develop what was going to be

1011
00:37:29,713 --> 00:37:34,718
that other off ramp for

1012
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:36,120
families in the event that we

1013
00:37:33,383 --> 00:37:37,621
could not support them to

1014
00:37:34,785 --> 00:37:38,822
transition over to our program.

1015
00:37:36,187 --> 00:37:41,358
Yeah. I wasn't questioning the

1016
00:37:37,688 --> 00:37:44,128
value of LAHSA and what they

1017
00:37:38,889 --> 00:37:45,529
did that I will quite often,

1018
00:37:41,425 --> 00:37:47,665
but I'm not right now. But the

1019
00:37:44,195 --> 00:37:50,901
short version is that the

1020
00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:51,735
American Rescue Plan got

1021
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:54,438
depleted fast. Yes. And we put

1022
00:37:50,968 --> 00:37:56,273
ourselves in a position where

1023
00:37:51,802 --> 00:37:58,909
the $900 million for the Hap

1024
00:37:54,505 --> 00:38:00,244
program allowed us to convert

1025
00:37:56,340 --> 00:38:05,349
emergency vouchers to Hap. That

1026
00:37:58,976 --> 00:38:07,551
is correct. Program dollars.

1027
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:10,087
Okay. Thanks. Great. Yeah. And

1028
00:38:05,415 --> 00:38:11,455
I think the when we when the

1029
00:38:07,617 --> 00:38:16,160
motion was first introduced in

1030
00:38:10,154 --> 00:38:17,928
2025, we were looking at

1031
00:38:11,522 --> 00:38:19,863
potentially these, individuals

1032
00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:21,532
not having the ability to

1033
00:38:17,995 --> 00:38:23,033
sustain their housing or really

1034
00:38:19,930 --> 00:38:24,835
working with them. Another

1035
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:26,537
place where this did happen was

1036
00:38:23,099 --> 00:38:27,938
the TLS funding cliff. So we

1037
00:38:24,901 --> 00:38:29,373
had like two buckets of

1038
00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:31,575
individuals that were about to

1039
00:38:28,005 --> 00:38:35,212
lose funding. The TLS funding.

1040
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:37,681
Cliff did happen. We lost that

1041
00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:39,450
money from Hap and from was it

1042
00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:40,551
Hap money that was gone? All

1043
00:38:37,748 --> 00:38:44,188
kinds. Yeah. We there was a

1044
00:38:39,517 --> 00:38:47,224
number of vouchers that were

1045
00:38:40,618 --> 00:38:48,158
lost for a tranche of TLS folks

1046
00:38:44,255 --> 00:38:49,292
that and now I can't remember

1047
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:51,028
which committee that was

1048
00:38:48,225 --> 00:38:52,530
reported back in, whether that

1049
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:54,231
was HCC and whether it came

1050
00:38:51,095 --> 00:38:56,066
here or not. But these were the

1051
00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:58,068
two kind of groups of people

1052
00:38:54,298 --> 00:39:00,771
that we were worried about in

1053
00:38:56,133 --> 00:39:01,939
this committee last year around

1054
00:38:58,135 --> 00:39:03,440
this time, one is one group

1055
00:39:00,838 --> 00:39:04,575
ended up getting the money from

1056
00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:07,911
the federal government to be

1057
00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:11,215
able to stay housed, which was

1058
00:39:04,641 --> 00:39:13,083
great for the other group. Our

1059
00:39:07,978 --> 00:39:15,018
city departments, as well as

1060
00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:15,919
LAHSA, worked with the service

1061
00:39:13,150 --> 00:39:17,755
providers to ensure that people

1062
00:39:15,085 --> 00:39:19,156
who were losing their time

1063
00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:20,824
limited subsidy vouchers, about

1064
00:39:17,822 --> 00:39:22,693
50% of them moved to. We did

1065
00:39:19,223 --> 00:39:24,528
have a brief update on this,

1066
00:39:20,891 --> 00:39:26,063
right, but 50% of them ended up

1067
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,431
moving into self-sufficiency.

1068
00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:29,967
And about half of them ended up

1069
00:39:26,129 --> 00:39:31,068
moving to other forms of

1070
00:39:27,498 --> 00:39:32,770
housing, including PSA and

1071
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:33,871
other affordable units to be

1072
00:39:31,134 --> 00:39:35,072
able to stay housed. And we

1073
00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:36,874
basically work to ensure that

1074
00:39:33,938 --> 00:39:38,208
those people didn't fall back

1075
00:39:35,139 --> 00:39:39,943
into homelessness. So sometimes

1076
00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:43,213
we talk about these funding

1077
00:39:38,275 --> 00:39:45,516
cliffs, which feel very

1078
00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:47,551
abstract and far away. But what

1079
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,685
has happened over the past year

1080
00:39:45,583 --> 00:39:51,855
and a half or so is that there

1081
00:39:47,618 --> 00:39:53,324
has been real work done to

1082
00:39:48,752 --> 00:39:54,391
ensure that, these funding

1083
00:39:51,922 --> 00:39:55,492
cliffs didn't come to pass and

1084
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:57,427
that people weren't, weren't

1085
00:39:54,458 --> 00:39:59,396
left homeless, which is good. I

1086
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:01,298
mean, we, we have a lot of work

1087
00:39:57,494 --> 00:40:02,333
to do on this system, but this

1088
00:39:59,462 --> 00:40:03,500
is one of one this and the

1089
00:40:01,364 --> 00:40:05,402
other instance where we

1090
00:40:02,399 --> 00:40:06,270
prepared early and we were able

1091
00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:08,205
to do some work. Council Member.

1092
00:40:05,469 --> 00:40:09,506
Blumenfield. Great, thanks. And

1093
00:40:06,336 --> 00:40:10,908
I was trying to get the same

1094
00:40:08,272 --> 00:40:12,309
kind of clarification. So it

1095
00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:14,545
sounds like a crisis was

1096
00:40:10,975 --> 00:40:16,180
averted. So thank you. And that

1097
00:40:12,376 --> 00:40:18,048
that's awesome. And it sounds

1098
00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:19,116
like it was, basically one, one

1099
00:40:16,246 --> 00:40:20,250
pot of federal money was, was

1100
00:40:18,115 --> 00:40:22,185
swapped for another pot of

1101
00:40:19,182 --> 00:40:24,688
federal money. At the end of

1102
00:40:20,317 --> 00:40:25,556
the day is how we made it

1103
00:40:22,252 --> 00:40:27,858
happen was the, if you compare,

1104
00:40:24,755 --> 00:40:29,426
you said it would have, it

1105
00:40:25,623 --> 00:40:31,829
would have cost us 57 million

1106
00:40:27,925 --> 00:40:34,698
if we had just had to replace

1107
00:40:29,493 --> 00:40:36,466
the vouchers straight out. Yeah.

1108
00:40:31,896 --> 00:40:38,702
Was it more or less when, when

1109
00:40:34,765 --> 00:40:40,236
we did the swap with the other

1110
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:41,972
federal money to make everybody

1111
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:43,774
whole, did that end up costing

1112
00:40:40,303 --> 00:40:45,843
us more than the 57 million or

1113
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:47,110
less than the 57 million? Or

1114
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:49,112
was it an even swap? It was.

1115
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:51,282
Yeah, it was the same because

1116
00:40:47,177 --> 00:40:53,450
Hap is continuous for the

1117
00:40:49,179 --> 00:40:55,619
families. So what we pay out in

1118
00:40:51,348 --> 00:40:57,421
housing assistance will not

1119
00:40:53,517 --> 00:40:59,256
change. And so it was, it was

1120
00:40:55,686 --> 00:41:01,425
an even swap of one, one one

1121
00:40:57,487 --> 00:41:02,426
pot of federal money for the

1122
00:40:59,323 --> 00:41:03,627
other pot of federal money. And

1123
00:41:01,492 --> 00:41:06,763
fortunately, I guess because

1124
00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:08,265
that other pot was growing, we

1125
00:41:03,694 --> 00:41:10,734
didn't have to cut anybody else.

1126
00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:12,169
That's correct. Because as a

1127
00:41:08,332 --> 00:41:14,271
shortfall agency, we were very

1128
00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:16,440
diligent in following the

1129
00:41:12,236 --> 00:41:18,609
shortfall action plan. And so

1130
00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:20,410
by the time we did see our

1131
00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:22,345
calendar year 26 Hap renewal

1132
00:41:18,676 --> 00:41:24,915
amount, because of essentially

1133
00:41:20,477 --> 00:41:27,384
the savings we achieved because

1134
00:41:22,412 --> 00:41:29,119
we were following that plan, we

1135
00:41:24,981 --> 00:41:31,321
were able to subsume the Hap

1136
00:41:27,450 --> 00:41:34,624
that we were paying for ihv

1137
00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:36,293
into roll it into our regular

1138
00:41:31,388 --> 00:41:37,761
tenant based renewals. Right.

1139
00:41:34,691 --> 00:41:39,997
But it's still vouchers. It's

1140
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,432
still a voucher. Yeah, it is

1141
00:41:37,828 --> 00:41:43,334
still a voucher. Okay. And then

1142
00:41:40,064 --> 00:41:44,501
you said, I think I heard you

1143
00:41:41,498 --> 00:41:46,270
say the county was able to do

1144
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,471
the same thing. Correct. The

1145
00:41:44,568 --> 00:41:50,007
county is doing the exact same

1146
00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:51,441
thing and transitioning their

1147
00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:52,743
Ihv voucher holders to their

1148
00:41:50,074 --> 00:41:54,111
regular tenant based voucher

1149
00:41:51,508 --> 00:41:56,413
program as well. Great. And is

1150
00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:57,881
there any long term implication

1151
00:41:54,178 --> 00:41:59,383
for all this? That's a good

1152
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,251
question. I think we will be

1153
00:41:57,948 --> 00:42:02,786
assessing this as we go along.

1154
00:41:59,450 --> 00:42:05,088
We do. We are aware that there

1155
00:42:01,318 --> 00:42:06,223
are other housing authorities

1156
00:42:02,853 --> 00:42:08,325
that are not as fortunate, who

1157
00:42:05,155 --> 00:42:10,193
continue to be in a shortfall

1158
00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:11,895
funding situation even after

1159
00:42:08,392 --> 00:42:13,730
receiving their federal,

1160
00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:15,232
calendar calendar year 26

1161
00:42:11,962 --> 00:42:17,000
funding. And so these agencies

1162
00:42:13,797 --> 00:42:19,836
are still in a position of

1163
00:42:15,299 --> 00:42:21,238
trying to find a solution. And

1164
00:42:17,067 --> 00:42:24,508
so it was uneven. And so we

1165
00:42:19,903 --> 00:42:27,411
actually are speaking with

1166
00:42:21,305 --> 00:42:28,912
other agencies, sharing what we

1167
00:42:24,575 --> 00:42:32,516
are experience, trying to see

1168
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:33,550
where we can provide some type

1169
00:42:28,979 --> 00:42:35,385
of assistance, but it is, it is

1170
00:42:32,583 --> 00:42:37,287
unfortunate that there are

1171
00:42:33,617 --> 00:42:39,356
still agencies here locally as

1172
00:42:35,452 --> 00:42:40,791
well as in the state that may

1173
00:42:37,353 --> 00:42:41,558
not have a plan for their

1174
00:42:39,423 --> 00:42:43,427
families. Right. And then the

1175
00:42:40,858 --> 00:42:45,496
federal money that we did get,

1176
00:42:41,625 --> 00:42:46,930
is that also under threat for

1177
00:42:43,493 --> 00:42:48,665
this next year? That remains to

1178
00:42:45,562 --> 00:42:52,936
be seen. Right now we're

1179
00:42:46,997 --> 00:42:54,904
following it closely. Okay.

1180
00:42:48,732 --> 00:42:56,173
Thank you. Great. Thank you so

1181
00:42:53,003 --> 00:42:58,375
much for being here and barring

1182
00:42:54,971 --> 00:43:00,577
any other questions. Thank you

1183
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:03,080
again to our AmeriCorps. Are

1184
00:42:58,442 --> 00:43:03,981
they volunteers or what's the

1185
00:43:00,644 --> 00:43:05,249
what's the word volunteers.

1186
00:43:03,147 --> 00:43:07,351
Okay, awesome. Thank you again

1187
00:43:04,047 --> 00:43:09,620
to our AmeriCorps volunteers

1188
00:43:05,315 --> 00:43:12,256
for your hard work in this. And

1189
00:43:07,418 --> 00:43:13,523
thank you to Hacla and HR for

1190
00:43:09,686 --> 00:43:15,425
the update. About one thing

1191
00:43:12,322 --> 00:43:16,593
that we didn't have to worry

1192
00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:19,630
about quite as much as we did

1193
00:43:15,492 --> 00:43:22,532
worry about last year. So thank

1194
00:43:16,659 --> 00:43:25,402
you. Let's move on to item 12,

1195
00:43:19,697 --> 00:43:27,471
which is our last item today.

1196
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:28,905
Item item 12 is a verbal update

1197
00:43:25,469 --> 00:43:31,208
from the Los Angeles Homeless

1198
00:43:27,538 --> 00:43:34,011
Services Authority regarding

1199
00:43:28,972 --> 00:43:37,981
the United States Department of

1200
00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:42,786
Housing and Urban Development

1201
00:43:34,078 --> 00:43:44,488
Year 2026 continuum Care Notice

1202
00:43:38,048 --> 00:43:46,289
of funding. Opportunity. Okay,

1203
00:43:42,853 --> 00:43:48,125
great. And we have Paul

1204
00:43:44,555 --> 00:43:49,659
Rubenstein here from LAHSA and

1205
00:43:46,356 --> 00:43:51,294
Meg Barkley from the CIO, to

1206
00:43:48,192 --> 00:43:54,164
provide us more context around

1207
00:43:49,726 --> 00:43:57,768
the city's response to HUD's

1208
00:43:51,361 --> 00:44:00,971
actions around the COC Nofo

1209
00:43:54,231 --> 00:44:02,406
this is a discussion item only.

1210
00:43:57,835 --> 00:44:04,374
And just on background, HUD

1211
00:44:01,038 --> 00:44:06,209
announced it would suspend

1212
00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:08,612
funding to LAHSA on June 11th

1213
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,714
of this year, I believe. Is

1214
00:44:06,276 --> 00:44:12,582
that right? There's about

1215
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:15,819
11,000 people who are currently

1216
00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:16,887
sheltered, housed or receiving

1217
00:44:12,649 --> 00:44:18,355
outreach with these funds.

1218
00:44:15,886 --> 00:44:19,356
Since HUD's announcement, this

1219
00:44:16,954 --> 00:44:20,824
council passed a resolution

1220
00:44:18,422 --> 00:44:25,195
opposing the federal

1221
00:44:19,423 --> 00:44:26,963
government's decision to

1222
00:44:20,891 --> 00:44:28,732
withhold funding. And, and then

1223
00:44:25,262 --> 00:44:30,934
there has been other

1224
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:33,403
developments that have taken

1225
00:44:28,799 --> 00:44:34,505
place, including actions by the

1226
00:44:31,001 --> 00:44:37,007
county. The mayor and council

1227
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:38,675
president writing a letter to

1228
00:44:34,571 --> 00:44:39,910
the COC board, and a court

1229
00:44:37,074 --> 00:44:40,910
hearing tomorrow. So I just

1230
00:44:38,742 --> 00:44:42,746
thought it would be useful for

1231
00:44:39,977 --> 00:44:43,880
this committee to hear about

1232
00:44:40,977 --> 00:44:47,451
what is going on in a

1233
00:44:42,813 --> 00:44:48,585
consolidated manner. Have your

1234
00:44:43,947 --> 00:44:50,721
questions answered, and just

1235
00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:53,223
allow for committee members to

1236
00:44:48,652 --> 00:44:56,827
stay up to date on the C, O, C

1237
00:44:50,788 --> 00:44:58,261
and, and any changes to it. So

1238
00:44:53,290 --> 00:45:00,497
take it away. Paul and Meg.

1239
00:44:56,894 --> 00:45:01,565
Sure. Paul Rubenstein Chief of

1240
00:44:58,328 --> 00:45:05,102
Staff at LAHSA. So I wanted to

1241
00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:09,773
start with just a quick

1242
00:45:01,632 --> 00:45:11,541
overview of where the 2026COC

1243
00:45:05,169 --> 00:45:13,310
nofo process stands right now.

1244
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,878
Despite the notice of

1245
00:45:11,608 --> 00:45:18,415
suspension from HUD, which, as

1246
00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:21,251
Councilmember Raman noted,

1247
00:45:14,945 --> 00:45:24,855
LAHSA is contesting in court.

1248
00:45:18,482 --> 00:45:28,158
We have been proceeding with

1249
00:45:21,318 --> 00:45:29,593
the local COC nofo competition

1250
00:45:24,922 --> 00:45:32,129
process as we do every year.

1251
00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:34,264
The deadline for that

1252
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:37,501
submission is coming up on

1253
00:45:32,196 --> 00:45:39,669
August 26th. And at this point,

1254
00:45:34,331 --> 00:45:40,971
the, the county, the city of La

1255
00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:43,273
LAHSA and the COC have sent

1256
00:45:39,736 --> 00:45:46,109
multiple joint communications

1257
00:45:41,038 --> 00:45:48,645
to providers, encouraging them

1258
00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:51,314
to continue with the local

1259
00:45:46,176 --> 00:45:53,083
competition process, for

1260
00:45:48,712 --> 00:45:55,585
multiple reasons, primarily no

1261
00:45:51,381 --> 00:45:57,654
matter what happens, the work

1262
00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:59,456
that they're doing will be used.

1263
00:45:55,652 --> 00:46:01,658
Even if in the scenario that

1264
00:45:57,721 --> 00:46:02,659
HUD has outlined that providers

1265
00:45:59,523 --> 00:46:03,660
would submit individual

1266
00:46:01,725 --> 00:46:07,030
applications, the work that

1267
00:46:02,726 --> 00:46:08,465
they're putting together now

1268
00:46:03,727 --> 00:46:10,267
would still be used. And then

1269
00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:12,469
importantly, by putting

1270
00:46:08,532 --> 00:46:14,204
together a local competition

1271
00:46:10,334 --> 00:46:16,006
package, we maintain our own

1272
00:46:12,536 --> 00:46:17,875
local control over

1273
00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:19,609
prioritization of projects as

1274
00:46:16,073 --> 00:46:21,411
opposed to if it does end up

1275
00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:22,245
going to direct application to

1276
00:46:19,676 --> 00:46:25,382
HUD. Then HUD would be the one

1277
00:46:21,478 --> 00:46:27,584
making the decisions about

1278
00:46:22,312 --> 00:46:29,753
which projects are funded. The

1279
00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:34,024
critical thing there is that

1280
00:46:27,651 --> 00:46:35,826
under the terms of the 26 Nofo

1281
00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:36,927
that HUD outlined, only 60% of

1282
00:46:34,091 --> 00:46:38,695
funding is what's called the

1283
00:46:35,893 --> 00:46:40,230
protected tier, which is

1284
00:46:36,994 --> 00:46:43,700
basically almost guaranteed

1285
00:46:38,762 --> 00:46:46,203
renewal. In the past, that has

1286
00:46:40,296 --> 00:46:49,672
been 90% of the renewal funding.

1287
00:46:43,767 --> 00:46:51,942
So it's a significant reduction,

1288
00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:54,544
which would leave, people that

1289
00:46:49,739 --> 00:46:56,313
are currently housed with COC

1290
00:46:52,009 --> 00:46:59,349
dollars without a form of

1291
00:46:54,611 --> 00:47:02,452
subsidy, which is obviously

1292
00:46:56,380 --> 00:47:05,689
deeply concerning. I also want

1293
00:46:59,416 --> 00:47:07,824
to note that while LAHSA has

1294
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:09,859
taken action legally, here,

1295
00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:13,597
there are also two national

1296
00:47:07,891 --> 00:47:15,432
lawsuits that are contesting

1297
00:47:09,926 --> 00:47:16,833
the entire 2026 Nofo. There's

1298
00:47:13,664 --> 00:47:17,968
one that is a coalition of

1299
00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:19,102
states which the state of

1300
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:20,403
California is part of. And then

1301
00:47:18,034 --> 00:47:24,007
there's one that the National

1302
00:47:19,169 --> 00:47:29,145
Alliance to End Homelessness

1303
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:30,213
and other nonprofit, advocacy

1304
00:47:24,074 --> 00:47:31,481
groups and local entities are,

1305
00:47:29,212 --> 00:47:32,716
participating in, it's been

1306
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:36,286
filed in Rhode Island before

1307
00:47:31,548 --> 00:47:41,758
the same judge that ruled

1308
00:47:32,783 --> 00:47:43,560
against HUD, regarding the 2025

1309
00:47:36,353 --> 00:47:46,062
Nofo. And they are essentially,

1310
00:47:41,825 --> 00:47:47,831
making similar arguments they

1311
00:47:43,627 --> 00:47:50,500
had made against the 2025 Nofo

1312
00:47:46,129 --> 00:47:52,068
against the 2026 Nofo in terms

1313
00:47:47,898 --> 00:47:53,536
of its legality and the funding

1314
00:47:50,567 --> 00:47:58,575
shifts that it's trying to put

1315
00:47:52,135 --> 00:48:01,511
forward. So there is really a

1316
00:47:53,603 --> 00:48:03,280
lot in play. We are, like I

1317
00:47:58,642 --> 00:48:06,216
said, currently engaged in the

1318
00:48:01,578 --> 00:48:12,289
local competition process. We

1319
00:48:03,347 --> 00:48:14,457
have received applications. The

1320
00:48:06,283 --> 00:48:15,525
COC board forwarded a ranking

1321
00:48:12,356 --> 00:48:17,060
methodology proposal to the

1322
00:48:14,524 --> 00:48:20,230
LAHSA commission, which is

1323
00:48:15,592 --> 00:48:21,665
actually discussing that right

1324
00:48:17,127 --> 00:48:23,466
now. And then there will be

1325
00:48:20,297 --> 00:48:25,001
subsequent meetings of the COC

1326
00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:26,202
board. I know Meg serves on the

1327
00:48:23,533 --> 00:48:27,938
board, so I'm sure she can

1328
00:48:25,068 --> 00:48:28,939
speak to it a little bit as

1329
00:48:26,269 --> 00:48:33,109
well. But there will be

1330
00:48:28,005 --> 00:48:36,046
subsequent meetings between now

1331
00:48:29,006 --> 00:48:39,683
and the, submission to HUD to

1332
00:48:33,176 --> 00:48:40,851
finalize those rankings. And

1333
00:48:36,113 --> 00:48:41,951
then it's worth also noting

1334
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:43,987
that HUD has not actually

1335
00:48:40,917 --> 00:48:46,189
released the application yet.

1336
00:48:42,018 --> 00:48:48,224
And not just to us, but to, to

1337
00:48:44,054 --> 00:48:49,325
anyone. And this is typically

1338
00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:51,127
something that the narratives

1339
00:48:48,291 --> 00:48:52,295
and the, all the pieces that

1340
00:48:49,392 --> 00:48:54,163
have to be put together, that

1341
00:48:51,194 --> 00:48:55,298
there are at least a couple

1342
00:48:52,362 --> 00:48:57,033
months to work on. And at this

1343
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:58,101
point, you know, with the

1344
00:48:55,365 --> 00:48:59,202
stated deadline of the 26th,

1345
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:00,637
we're looking at more like

1346
00:48:58,168 --> 00:49:02,339
weeks to put everything

1347
00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:03,973
together and not just us, but

1348
00:49:00,704 --> 00:49:05,975
really Cox around the country.

1349
00:49:02,406 --> 00:49:07,910
So there will be a significant

1350
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:10,413
time crunch. But obviously a

1351
00:49:06,075 --> 00:49:12,082
lot will ride on what happens

1352
00:49:07,977 --> 00:49:14,250
in court tomorrow. Just because

1353
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,419
it is pending litigation, we

1354
00:49:12,149 --> 00:49:21,458
don't want to get into it too

1355
00:49:14,317 --> 00:49:23,960
much. But I'll note a few

1356
00:49:16,486 --> 00:49:25,762
things that, a after we filed,

1357
00:49:21,525 --> 00:49:27,931
Judge Carter ordered the

1358
00:49:24,027 --> 00:49:31,968
parties, the parties to the

1359
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:34,004
alliance lawsuit to appear as

1360
00:49:27,998 --> 00:49:36,339
well. So, we'll see them

1361
00:49:32,035 --> 00:49:40,143
tomorrow, including you

1362
00:49:34,071 --> 00:49:42,312
technically. And then also at

1363
00:49:36,406 --> 00:49:46,683
the end of last week, the COC

1364
00:49:40,210 --> 00:49:48,451
filed to join the case as a

1365
00:49:42,379 --> 00:49:50,220
plaintiff. And so the judge

1366
00:49:46,750 --> 00:49:52,422
also, without ruling on adding

1367
00:49:48,518 --> 00:49:57,394
them as a plaintiff, he did

1368
00:49:50,287 --> 00:49:58,528
order them to appear as well

1369
00:49:52,489 --> 00:50:00,397
tomorrow. Meg, do you want to

1370
00:49:57,460 --> 00:50:01,765
provide an update? Thank you.

1371
00:49:58,595 --> 00:50:05,602
Paul, just on how the city has

1372
00:50:00,463 --> 00:50:09,239
been engaging in this process

1373
00:50:01,831 --> 00:50:12,475
and how it impacts us. Sure.

1374
00:50:05,669 --> 00:50:14,310
Shortly after the first letter

1375
00:50:09,306 --> 00:50:16,813
on June 11th, the city of the

1376
00:50:12,542 --> 00:50:19,682
county and LAHSA entered into a

1377
00:50:14,377 --> 00:50:21,785
letter of common interest and

1378
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:24,721
discussed, to so that the city

1379
00:50:19,749 --> 00:50:26,456
was able to discuss losses

1380
00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:28,291
strategy around the, the

1381
00:50:24,788 --> 00:50:31,528
lawsuit while being all jointly

1382
00:50:26,523 --> 00:50:34,397
protected by privilege, that

1383
00:50:28,358 --> 00:50:38,501
that letter is still in effect.

1384
00:50:31,595 --> 00:50:40,503
Also a declaration in support

1385
00:50:34,464 --> 00:50:41,604
of the lawsuit was filed, by,

1386
00:50:38,568 --> 00:50:43,706
or a declaration by Matt Zabo

1387
00:50:40,570 --> 00:50:46,309
that the city administrative

1388
00:50:41,671 --> 00:50:49,179
officer was filed also in

1389
00:50:43,773 --> 00:50:50,947
support at, as authorized by

1390
00:50:46,376 --> 00:50:53,516
counsel. And so that showing

1391
00:50:49,246 --> 00:50:55,652
the city's report, support for

1392
00:50:51,014 --> 00:50:56,753
the lawsuit, the County of Los

1393
00:50:53,583 --> 00:50:59,889
Angeles also filed a

1394
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,791
declaration in support at that

1395
00:50:56,820 --> 00:51:04,327
time. So we are not a party to

1396
00:50:59,956 --> 00:51:06,062
the lawsuit, but have been

1397
00:51:01,858 --> 00:51:08,965
remaining up to date on the

1398
00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:11,167
status of the various filings

1399
00:51:06,129 --> 00:51:12,936
since, since it was initiated.

1400
00:51:09,032 --> 00:51:14,771
And how does this impact? I

1401
00:51:11,234 --> 00:51:16,139
know that there's been some

1402
00:51:13,003 --> 00:51:19,776
discussions and at least a

1403
00:51:14,838 --> 00:51:21,544
letter back and forth related

1404
00:51:16,206 --> 00:51:23,246
to this and kind of, ownership

1405
00:51:19,843 --> 00:51:24,580
of data. And I think I just

1406
00:51:21,611 --> 00:51:28,751
want to make sure that this

1407
00:51:23,313 --> 00:51:32,021
committee is aware of changes

1408
00:51:24,647 --> 00:51:33,990
that are happening. So we have,

1409
00:51:28,818 --> 00:51:36,326
potentially a movement of

1410
00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:37,893
measure H to another location.

1411
00:51:34,056 --> 00:51:39,695
And I just, you know, I like,

1412
00:51:36,393 --> 00:51:41,497
we find it hard to get access

1413
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,299
to our data at the city. We did

1414
00:51:39,762 --> 00:51:44,300
a lot of work to finally get

1415
00:51:41,564 --> 00:51:45,301
access to it through LAHSA. And

1416
00:51:43,366 --> 00:51:46,402
we're grateful for LAHSA

1417
00:51:44,367 --> 00:51:48,538
partnership. Now it's being

1418
00:51:45,368 --> 00:51:49,606
regularly reported. Council

1419
00:51:46,469 --> 00:51:51,641
offices have access to it, but

1420
00:51:48,605 --> 00:51:52,742
now there's a potential for

1421
00:51:49,672 --> 00:51:53,709
that to move again. So I just

1422
00:51:51,708 --> 00:51:55,011
want to make sure committee

1423
00:51:52,808 --> 00:51:57,247
members are aware of that

1424
00:51:53,776 --> 00:51:59,048
because it impacts our ability

1425
00:51:55,078 --> 00:52:00,049
to manage our shelters, manage

1426
00:51:57,314 --> 00:52:01,885
our street homelessness and

1427
00:51:59,115 --> 00:52:03,319
Council Member Blumenfield, to

1428
00:52:00,116 --> 00:52:04,420
your point earlier, it also

1429
00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:06,456
impacts our ability to move

1430
00:52:03,386 --> 00:52:07,690
people through our shelter

1431
00:52:04,487 --> 00:52:08,858
system effectively. So I wanted

1432
00:52:06,523 --> 00:52:10,560
to make sure committee members

1433
00:52:07,757 --> 00:52:11,827
knew about this because I do

1434
00:52:08,925 --> 00:52:13,663
think it's really important.

1435
00:52:10,627 --> 00:52:15,598
Sure, I can talk a little bit

1436
00:52:11,894 --> 00:52:18,101
about that too. So thank you

1437
00:52:13,729 --> 00:52:18,801
for a little closer to you.

1438
00:52:15,665 --> 00:52:20,937
Sure. Thank you for, for

1439
00:52:18,168 --> 00:52:23,106
clarifying that. I can

1440
00:52:18,868 --> 00:52:24,607
definitely talk about that. The,

1441
00:52:21,004 --> 00:52:27,410
there was a letter on June 18th

1442
00:52:23,173 --> 00:52:28,545
that was sent to the chair of

1443
00:52:24,674 --> 00:52:30,313
the Continuum of Care Board,

1444
00:52:27,477 --> 00:52:31,848
notifying them that they were

1445
00:52:28,612 --> 00:52:33,950
out of compliance because the

1446
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:37,120
collaborative applicant for the

1447
00:52:31,915 --> 00:52:40,056
Continuum of Care application

1448
00:52:34,017 --> 00:52:42,559
had been declared or suspended

1449
00:52:37,187 --> 00:52:44,460
by HUD. And therefore HUD is

1450
00:52:40,123 --> 00:52:47,597
authorized to take remedial

1451
00:52:42,626 --> 00:52:49,399
actions against the COC board.

1452
00:52:44,527 --> 00:52:51,534
The COC board is an

1453
00:52:47,664 --> 00:52:54,003
organization formed under a

1454
00:52:49,466 --> 00:52:55,838
charter that represents a

1455
00:52:51,601 --> 00:52:56,906
broader COC, which is basically

1456
00:52:54,070 --> 00:52:59,108
any stakeholder within the

1457
00:52:55,905 --> 00:53:00,577
boundaries of the continuum of

1458
00:52:56,972 --> 00:53:02,345
care that has an interest in

1459
00:52:59,175 --> 00:53:04,113
addressing and solving

1460
00:53:00,644 --> 00:53:06,316
homelessness. So there's a

1461
00:53:02,412 --> 00:53:08,785
smaller board of 21

1462
00:53:04,180 --> 00:53:09,886
representatives that are,

1463
00:53:06,383 --> 00:53:12,121
sourced based on different

1464
00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:16,125
representation, whether it's

1465
00:53:09,953 --> 00:53:18,561
spar by spar service planning

1466
00:53:12,188 --> 00:53:21,064
area within the COC or at large.

1467
00:53:16,192 --> 00:53:22,498
There are at large participants,

1468
00:53:18,628 --> 00:53:25,034
there are participants from the

1469
00:53:21,131 --> 00:53:26,268
city administrative officers

1470
00:53:22,565 --> 00:53:27,870
office. I sit on the board,

1471
00:53:25,101 --> 00:53:30,506
representing the CIO. There's

1472
00:53:26,335 --> 00:53:32,909
also a representative from

1473
00:53:27,937 --> 00:53:33,710
Hacla. And from the county side,

1474
00:53:30,573 --> 00:53:36,179
there is a county HSH

1475
00:53:32,976 --> 00:53:40,216
representative and a

1476
00:53:33,777 --> 00:53:42,685
representative from LAC, d a

1477
00:53:36,246 --> 00:53:45,221
the continuum of Care board,

1478
00:53:40,283 --> 00:53:46,656
has been, is, is the

1479
00:53:42,752 --> 00:53:49,092
organization that sets the

1480
00:53:45,288 --> 00:53:53,830
prioritization policy that the

1481
00:53:46,723 --> 00:53:55,632
LAHSA commission is, reviewing

1482
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:57,500
right now. And would also

1483
00:53:53,897 --> 00:53:58,901
ultimately recommend to the

1484
00:53:55,699 --> 00:54:01,704
broader COC membership, not

1485
00:53:57,566 --> 00:54:03,673
only the collaborative

1486
00:53:58,968 --> 00:54:05,308
applicant, but the H S and CES

1487
00:54:01,771 --> 00:54:07,910
leads for the continuum of care.

1488
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:08,544
And this is all established

1489
00:54:05,375 --> 00:54:12,181
according to, statute and

1490
00:54:07,977 --> 00:54:14,384
regulation that are

1491
00:54:08,611 --> 00:54:16,519
administered by HUD. So when

1492
00:54:12,248 --> 00:54:17,587
the administration notified

1493
00:54:14,451 --> 00:54:19,022
when HUD notified the COC board

1494
00:54:16,586 --> 00:54:20,823
that they were out of

1495
00:54:17,653 --> 00:54:22,592
compliance, they noted they

1496
00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:24,394
have sort of two options. And

1497
00:54:20,890 --> 00:54:25,895
that is to take remedial action.

1498
00:54:22,659 --> 00:54:27,297
One would be to designate an

1499
00:54:24,461 --> 00:54:30,566
alternate collaborative

1500
00:54:25,962 --> 00:54:32,001
applicant, and another would be

1501
00:54:27,364 --> 00:54:33,136
to require or allow all

1502
00:54:30,633 --> 00:54:34,804
eligible applicants within the

1503
00:54:32,068 --> 00:54:37,040
continuum to apply directly to

1504
00:54:33,202 --> 00:54:38,107
HUD. And that's what Paul was

1505
00:54:34,871 --> 00:54:39,542
referring to. Local

1506
00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:41,344
prioritization flies out the

1507
00:54:38,174 --> 00:54:44,280
window. At that point, all of

1508
00:54:39,609 --> 00:54:46,049
the decisions about what to

1509
00:54:41,411 --> 00:54:47,583
fund come, directly from HUD,

1510
00:54:44,347 --> 00:54:49,852
and that's within the 60% that

1511
00:54:46,116 --> 00:54:51,454
would normally be that is would

1512
00:54:47,650 --> 00:54:53,956
be protected as renewals and

1513
00:54:49,919 --> 00:54:57,593
the 40% that's under the

1514
00:54:51,521 --> 00:54:59,062
national competition. So HUD

1515
00:54:54,023 --> 00:55:02,932
took the latter, option of

1516
00:54:57,660 --> 00:55:05,168
allowing eligible applicants to

1517
00:54:59,129 --> 00:55:07,303
apply directly. And, in that

1518
00:55:02,999 --> 00:55:11,240
situation, if that stands, if

1519
00:55:05,234 --> 00:55:14,610
the court does not intervene.

1520
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:17,013
And, both reverse LAHSA

1521
00:55:11,307 --> 00:55:19,882
suspension and require, require

1522
00:55:14,677 --> 00:55:22,485
HUD to lift the remedial

1523
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:24,554
actions against the COC board,

1524
00:55:19,949 --> 00:55:26,022
then the COC will need to make

1525
00:55:22,552 --> 00:55:30,026
the COC board will need to make

1526
00:55:24,621 --> 00:55:31,060
a recommendation. And the COC

1527
00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:32,628
itself will need to vote to

1528
00:55:30,093 --> 00:55:36,099
establish a new collaborative

1529
00:55:31,127 --> 00:55:37,867
applicant, a new measure H lead,

1530
00:55:32,695 --> 00:55:40,135
a new SES lead. And so the

1531
00:55:36,166 --> 00:55:42,572
County of Los Angeles sent a

1532
00:55:37,934 --> 00:55:46,576
letter about a week and a half

1533
00:55:40,202 --> 00:55:51,547
ago, almost two weeks ago, to

1534
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:53,015
the COC board offering to, take

1535
00:55:46,643 --> 00:55:55,184
on having the la CDA the Los

1536
00:55:51,614 --> 00:55:56,919
Angeles County Development

1537
00:55:53,082 --> 00:55:59,155
Authority. Did I get that right?

1538
00:55:55,251 --> 00:56:01,057
To serve as the collaborative

1539
00:55:56,986 --> 00:56:03,459
applicant and the housing or

1540
00:55:59,222 --> 00:56:06,362
homeless services and housing.

1541
00:56:01,124 --> 00:56:09,332
Did I get that right? I think

1542
00:56:03,526 --> 00:56:11,000
HHSH at the county to serve as

1543
00:56:06,429 --> 00:56:13,236
the, my s and SES lead. They

1544
00:56:09,399 --> 00:56:14,370
did note that that would be on

1545
00:56:11,066 --> 00:56:16,205
an interim basis for a year

1546
00:56:13,303 --> 00:56:18,608
only was the offer that they

1547
00:56:14,437 --> 00:56:21,411
were making that the COC board

1548
00:56:16,272 --> 00:56:24,414
could then make a decision for

1549
00:56:18,675 --> 00:56:25,748
a longer term after that year.

1550
00:56:21,478 --> 00:56:27,650
That would also require HUD to

1551
00:56:24,481 --> 00:56:28,651
accept a collaborative

1552
00:56:25,815 --> 00:56:29,452
applicant for this nofo, which

1553
00:56:27,717 --> 00:56:32,054
they've sort of already

1554
00:56:28,718 --> 00:56:33,322
indicated that they're not

1555
00:56:29,518 --> 00:56:34,924
going to do because they stated

1556
00:56:32,121 --> 00:56:36,559
they have two options and they

1557
00:56:33,389 --> 00:56:38,861
didn't take that option. So

1558
00:56:34,991 --> 00:56:40,163
it's unclear whether even if

1559
00:56:36,626 --> 00:56:41,297
the COC board were to recommend

1560
00:56:38,927 --> 00:56:43,032
an alternate collaborative

1561
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:44,133
applicant, whether HUD would

1562
00:56:41,364 --> 00:56:45,635
accept that and allow the

1563
00:56:43,099 --> 00:56:47,770
application to move forward

1564
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:49,172
under this alternative

1565
00:56:45,702 --> 00:56:51,040
applicant. I know this is a lot

1566
00:56:47,837 --> 00:56:53,142
and I'm talking really fast,

1567
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:57,413
able to apply, since most of

1568
00:56:51,106 --> 00:56:59,215
the COC funding that the city

1569
00:56:53,209 --> 00:57:01,117
gets is for, vouchers. Yes. Or

1570
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:02,751
operational funds would apply

1571
00:56:59,282 --> 00:57:04,554
directly for those funds to be

1572
00:57:01,183 --> 00:57:06,088
able to do that. Yes. Do they

1573
00:57:02,818 --> 00:57:07,490
have the capacity to. So why

1574
00:57:04,621 --> 00:57:09,292
are we preparing for that? Yeah.

1575
00:57:06,155 --> 00:57:13,629
Hecla is preparing to apply

1576
00:57:07,557 --> 00:57:16,566
directly. And it actually with

1577
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:17,634
the, local competition that

1578
00:57:13,696 --> 00:57:20,102
LAHSA has been administering,

1579
00:57:16,633 --> 00:57:21,638
they've already prepared a lot

1580
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:23,272
of that application in

1581
00:57:20,169 --> 00:57:24,440
responding to the local, the

1582
00:57:21,704 --> 00:57:26,642
normal process that we would

1583
00:57:23,339 --> 00:57:28,744
follow locally of having a

1584
00:57:24,507 --> 00:57:29,879
local competition and local

1585
00:57:26,709 --> 00:57:30,847
ranking applied to those

1586
00:57:28,811 --> 00:57:33,049
applications. Those

1587
00:57:29,946 --> 00:57:36,319
applications have, I believe

1588
00:57:30,914 --> 00:57:39,188
they are entered into snaps and

1589
00:57:33,116 --> 00:57:40,990
then reviewed and prioritized

1590
00:57:36,386 --> 00:57:42,158
by, the collaborative applicant,

1591
00:57:39,255 --> 00:57:44,460
and that those results are

1592
00:57:41,057 --> 00:57:48,164
required to be announced in

1593
00:57:42,224 --> 00:57:50,700
this nofo cycle by August 11th,

1594
00:57:44,527 --> 00:57:52,168
I believe. So next Tuesday. And

1595
00:57:48,231 --> 00:57:53,769
so that is happening. Hackley's

1596
00:57:50,767 --> 00:57:55,471
applications are in and are

1597
00:57:52,235 --> 00:58:00,176
subject now to the Ranking

1598
00:57:53,836 --> 00:58:03,913
policy that was approved by the

1599
00:57:55,538 --> 00:58:06,616
COC board yesterday that does

1600
00:58:00,243 --> 00:58:08,050
prioritize project based rental

1601
00:58:03,980 --> 00:58:11,687
subsidies. And, the HAC is

1602
00:58:06,683 --> 00:58:13,823
expected to do pretty well

1603
00:58:08,117 --> 00:58:14,957
within that 60%. It is the Nofo

1604
00:58:11,754 --> 00:58:17,493
itself is very problematic even

1605
00:58:13,890 --> 00:58:18,828
without the issues that we're

1606
00:58:15,024 --> 00:58:19,996
facing with HUD. And the HUD

1607
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,931
situation is just creating a

1608
00:58:18,895 --> 00:58:24,033
lot more uncertainty. And the

1609
00:58:20,063 --> 00:58:25,034
court case tomorrow could make

1610
00:58:21,998 --> 00:58:26,869
it so that Judge Carter decides

1611
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:28,204
that there's a collaborative

1612
00:58:25,101 --> 00:58:30,006
applicant and it or like it

1613
00:58:26,936 --> 00:58:31,474
could stop HUD's actions

1614
00:58:28,271 --> 00:58:33,309
entirely. Is that right? It's

1615
00:58:30,073 --> 00:58:36,212
possible that he could order

1616
00:58:31,541 --> 00:58:38,281
HUD to lift the suspension, I

1617
00:58:33,376 --> 00:58:39,882
believe, but I'm not privy to

1618
00:58:36,279 --> 00:58:41,217
like what his legal options are

1619
00:58:38,348 --> 00:58:42,851
as since I'm not a lawyer, I

1620
00:58:39,948 --> 00:58:44,720
don't really know exactly what

1621
00:58:41,284 --> 00:58:45,888
he could or could not do. But

1622
00:58:42,918 --> 00:58:47,022
that is what LAHSA has been

1623
00:58:44,787 --> 00:58:48,791
asked, has asked the court to

1624
00:58:45,954 --> 00:58:50,726
do. Okay, so colleagues, I

1625
00:58:47,089 --> 00:58:51,894
don't know if you guys had

1626
00:58:48,857 --> 00:58:52,995
questions. I know this is a lot,

1627
00:58:50,793 --> 00:58:54,797
but I did think it was

1628
00:58:51,961 --> 00:58:55,931
important for everyone to be

1629
00:58:53,062 --> 00:58:57,833
aware of what was happening, in

1630
00:58:54,863 --> 00:58:59,001
case you weren't already. I

1631
00:58:55,998 --> 00:59:00,836
will just want I want to state

1632
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:02,171
for the record that, you know,

1633
00:58:59,068 --> 00:59:03,906
I'm, I'm, I'm hope I'm glad

1634
00:59:00,903 --> 00:59:05,074
that Hacla is stepping up and

1635
00:59:02,237 --> 00:59:06,809
can apply on their own. I think

1636
00:59:03,973 --> 00:59:07,843
building up that capacity and

1637
00:59:05,141 --> 00:59:09,278
being ready to do that is

1638
00:59:06,875 --> 00:59:11,013
really important. I have

1639
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:12,181
serious concerns about losses

1640
00:59:09,345 --> 00:59:13,316
to other buckets of funding. So

1641
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,418
I think coming back to this

1642
00:59:12,248 --> 00:59:17,053
committee, with how much money

1643
00:59:13,383 --> 00:59:18,621
is expected to be lost in

1644
00:59:15,485 --> 00:59:21,190
interim shelter and outreach,

1645
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:22,625
and also for us to be able to

1646
00:59:18,688 --> 00:59:24,060
maximize interim shelter

1647
00:59:21,257 --> 00:59:25,528
applications. And who will

1648
00:59:22,692 --> 00:59:27,463
apply for that within the city

1649
00:59:24,127 --> 00:59:29,332
in case the city has to go. It

1650
00:59:25,594 --> 00:59:31,601
alone is really important to be

1651
00:59:27,529 --> 00:59:33,703
able to do, and I'm looking to

1652
00:59:29,399 --> 00:59:34,871
the Cao and lead to do that and

1653
00:59:31,667 --> 00:59:36,339
prepare for that, so that as

1654
00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:37,806
many shelter beds as possible

1655
00:59:34,937 --> 00:59:39,675
can be covered by these dollars.

1656
00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:41,677
If if that's open to us, we

1657
00:59:37,873 --> 00:59:43,145
should apply for it. The second

1658
00:59:39,742 --> 00:59:45,281
thing I did want to say is I

1659
00:59:41,744 --> 00:59:47,416
have had the opportunity to sit

1660
00:59:43,212 --> 00:59:48,718
with the county on shared

1661
00:59:45,348 --> 00:59:50,419
boards. And they have provided

1662
00:59:47,483 --> 00:59:52,355
us more access to data than

1663
00:59:48,785 --> 00:59:53,923
they have in the past. But I

1664
00:59:50,486 --> 00:59:55,024
will say that the county is a

1665
00:59:52,422 --> 00:59:57,226
closed book in many, many

1666
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:58,026
instances in terms of what's

1667
00:59:55,091 --> 00:59:59,495
going on there. They have a

1668
00:59:57,293 --> 01:00:00,629
process through which people

1669
00:59:58,093 --> 01:00:02,565
are supposed to go from interim

1670
00:59:59,562 --> 01:00:04,633
shelter beds to high acuity

1671
01:00:00,696 --> 01:00:07,303
mental health beds and to rehab

1672
01:00:02,632 --> 01:00:09,105
beds. We're supposed to have a

1673
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:10,739
seat at that table. And I don't

1674
01:00:07,370 --> 01:00:12,274
know who's advocating for us. I

1675
01:00:09,172 --> 01:00:16,912
don't, but very few people from

1676
01:00:10,806 --> 01:00:18,447
our shelters ever move to high

1677
01:00:12,341 --> 01:00:20,116
acuity beds. Very few. And when

1678
01:00:16,979 --> 01:00:21,284
we ask for data on mental

1679
01:00:18,514 --> 01:00:23,286
health support, how many people

1680
01:00:20,183 --> 01:00:25,121
are getting it, it's very hard

1681
01:00:21,350 --> 01:00:26,322
to get it when we ask for data

1682
01:00:23,352 --> 01:00:28,124
on any anything from the county.

1683
01:00:25,188 --> 01:00:29,125
It's very hard to get. I know

1684
01:00:26,389 --> 01:00:32,161
they're in the process of

1685
01:00:28,191 --> 01:00:35,464
improving that, but handing

1686
01:00:29,192 --> 01:00:37,232
over control of HMIS and, to

1687
01:00:32,227 --> 01:00:39,101
the county, without real checks

1688
01:00:35,531 --> 01:00:40,269
and balances in place and to

1689
01:00:37,299 --> 01:00:42,104
make sure that we're able to

1690
01:00:39,168 --> 01:00:43,606
access at least as much as

1691
01:00:40,336 --> 01:00:45,440
we're able to access now, but

1692
01:00:42,171 --> 01:00:47,309
ideally even more, I think, you

1693
01:00:43,673 --> 01:00:48,443
know, we need to be able to

1694
01:00:45,507 --> 01:00:49,444
make sure that we have real

1695
01:00:47,376 --> 01:00:51,280
safeguards in place if that's

1696
01:00:48,510 --> 01:00:52,548
what's happening, even if it's

1697
01:00:49,511 --> 01:00:54,316
just for an interim year. And

1698
01:00:51,347 --> 01:00:56,152
I'm grateful that the county

1699
01:00:52,615 --> 01:00:57,552
has the capacity to stand up

1700
01:00:54,383 --> 01:00:59,321
and do this. But like, you know,

1701
01:00:56,219 --> 01:01:00,489
we just need to be able to make

1702
01:00:57,619 --> 01:01:01,623
sure that we're fighting for

1703
01:00:59,388 --> 01:01:02,691
every bed, for every person to

1704
01:01:00,555 --> 01:01:04,326
get access to the resources

1705
01:01:01,690 --> 01:01:05,560
that they deserve, because

1706
01:01:02,758 --> 01:01:06,729
right now they're not getting

1707
01:01:04,393 --> 01:01:08,330
it. And I'm afraid that that in

1708
01:01:05,627 --> 01:01:09,498
access will deepen further.

1709
01:01:06,796 --> 01:01:10,599
Committee member. Oh, sorry. I

1710
01:01:08,397 --> 01:01:12,401
will just just to clarify,

1711
01:01:09,564 --> 01:01:13,836
because I didn't talk about the

1712
01:01:10,666 --> 01:01:15,671
city letter. So the city did

1713
01:01:12,467 --> 01:01:17,440
send also a letter requesting

1714
01:01:13,903 --> 01:01:20,009
joint administration of

1715
01:01:15,738 --> 01:01:21,744
HMISNCES for those exact

1716
01:01:17,507 --> 01:01:23,546
reasons. And I as a member of

1717
01:01:20,075 --> 01:01:25,014
the board in place right now.

1718
01:01:21,811 --> 01:01:27,583
Right, right. No it's not, but

1719
01:01:23,613 --> 01:01:29,151
that looking forward, if that

1720
01:01:25,081 --> 01:01:32,922
were the the case and as a

1721
01:01:27,650 --> 01:01:34,356
member of the COC board, that

1722
01:01:29,218 --> 01:01:35,391
is that is my very vocal,

1723
01:01:32,989 --> 01:01:38,027
suggestion that any

1724
01:01:34,423 --> 01:01:40,129
administration of this go

1725
01:01:35,458 --> 01:01:41,297
forward has to be done in

1726
01:01:38,094 --> 01:01:42,998
collaboration and with a, an

1727
01:01:40,196 --> 01:01:44,500
agreement in place between the

1728
01:01:41,363 --> 01:01:46,635
city and the county about

1729
01:01:43,065 --> 01:01:48,037
access to data, how data will

1730
01:01:44,567 --> 01:01:49,472
be not just provided, but also

1731
01:01:46,702 --> 01:01:50,573
presented. And I would I would

1732
01:01:48,104 --> 01:01:52,007
underscore that we cannot move

1733
01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:54,610
forward without that agreement

1734
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,611
in place. Like, I just don't

1735
01:01:52,074 --> 01:01:57,746
know how we would ethically for,

1736
01:01:54,677 --> 01:01:59,915
for the people that we are

1737
01:01:55,678 --> 01:02:01,751
caring for in our shelters,

1738
01:01:57,813 --> 01:02:04,620
members, any council member.

1739
01:01:59,982 --> 01:02:07,890
And then Councilmember Mcosker.

1740
01:02:01,818 --> 01:02:09,258
Thank you. So it seems that can

1741
01:02:04,687 --> 01:02:11,093
you her her mic is not on. Okay.

1742
01:02:07,957 --> 01:02:12,862
It seems like the data that we

1743
01:02:09,325 --> 01:02:15,731
use that LAHSA owns at the

1744
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:20,102
moment and has ownership of for

1745
01:02:12,929 --> 01:02:22,705
my data is at risk of being

1746
01:02:15,798 --> 01:02:25,541
lost to either HUD, the county.

1747
01:02:20,169 --> 01:02:27,643
So I don't think the data would

1748
01:02:22,772 --> 01:02:29,445
be lost to HUD. I think what

1749
01:02:25,608 --> 01:02:33,148
would have to happen is the COC

1750
01:02:27,710 --> 01:02:35,217
would have to vote to designate

1751
01:02:29,512 --> 01:02:37,419
a new HMIS lead. And so that's

1752
01:02:33,215 --> 01:02:38,787
HUD would not serve in that

1753
01:02:35,284 --> 01:02:40,656
role. But the options on the

1754
01:02:37,486 --> 01:02:42,425
table, at least, that have been

1755
01:02:38,854 --> 01:02:43,659
presented so far to the COC

1756
01:02:40,723 --> 01:02:45,461
board are the letters from the

1757
01:02:42,491 --> 01:02:46,495
city and the county. So either

1758
01:02:43,726 --> 01:02:48,164
the county doing it solely as

1759
01:02:45,527 --> 01:02:50,699
their letter suggested, or as

1760
01:02:46,562 --> 01:02:52,968
the city's letter suggested,

1761
01:02:48,231 --> 01:02:54,270
creating some sort of a joint

1762
01:02:50,766 --> 01:02:56,305
administration joint or

1763
01:02:53,035 --> 01:02:59,742
separate. I know the county is

1764
01:02:54,337 --> 01:03:02,578
trying to also do it maybe on

1765
01:02:56,372 --> 01:03:04,046
their own. And so my my thought

1766
01:02:59,809 --> 01:03:06,148
is or my big question is, we've

1767
01:03:02,645 --> 01:03:09,752
spent so much time in this

1768
01:03:04,113 --> 01:03:12,021
committee developing data and

1769
01:03:06,215 --> 01:03:15,124
metrics to create outcomes

1770
01:03:09,819 --> 01:03:18,060
based on the existing owner of

1771
01:03:12,087 --> 01:03:19,795
the HMIS data for like two

1772
01:03:15,191 --> 01:03:22,798
years. And now if it's owned by

1773
01:03:18,127 --> 01:03:25,267
someone else, where we're going

1774
01:03:19,862 --> 01:03:26,468
to have less visibility. Do we

1775
01:03:22,865 --> 01:03:31,373
what use is those metrics when

1776
01:03:25,334 --> 01:03:33,175
we go through the process all

1777
01:03:26,535 --> 01:03:34,443
over again? Do we does it just

1778
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,846
mean we start this is exactly

1779
01:03:33,242 --> 01:03:38,214
we have to start from scratch

1780
01:03:34,510 --> 01:03:39,815
all over again. And for. Maybe

1781
01:03:36,913 --> 01:03:42,518
if the county becomes the owner

1782
01:03:38,281 --> 01:03:43,953
to Councilmember Raman point,

1783
01:03:39,882 --> 01:03:45,754
we'll have no visibility. I

1784
01:03:42,585 --> 01:03:47,723
will say from a technical

1785
01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:49,358
standpoint, assuming that the

1786
01:03:45,821 --> 01:03:51,460
HMS platform didn't change, all

1787
01:03:47,789 --> 01:03:52,594
of those pathways would still

1788
01:03:49,425 --> 01:03:54,396
be in my S, so I don't think it

1789
01:03:51,526 --> 01:03:58,367
would be entirely starting from

1790
01:03:52,661 --> 01:04:00,236
scratch. But to Meg's point, I

1791
01:03:54,463 --> 01:04:02,605
think that a a very clear

1792
01:03:58,434 --> 01:04:03,606
agreement between the city and

1793
01:04:00,303 --> 01:04:05,608
whoever ended up being the data

1794
01:04:02,672 --> 01:04:06,976
administrator, either partially

1795
01:04:03,672 --> 01:04:08,811
or completely, would be really

1796
01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:10,246
important to ensuring because,

1797
01:04:07,043 --> 01:04:11,446
you know, another the alliance

1798
01:04:08,878 --> 01:04:12,915
reporting as well relies on.

1799
01:04:10,313 --> 01:04:14,016
HMAS right. So it's all the

1800
01:04:11,513 --> 01:04:15,985
work that this committee and

1801
01:04:12,982 --> 01:04:17,153
other council members have done,

1802
01:04:14,083 --> 01:04:18,988
but it's also part of the legal

1803
01:04:16,052 --> 01:04:20,689
agreements. And so all of that

1804
01:04:17,219 --> 01:04:22,458
would really need to be very

1805
01:04:19,055 --> 01:04:23,926
clearly spelled out in an

1806
01:04:20,756 --> 01:04:25,694
agreement. I hear you, Mr.

1807
01:04:22,525 --> 01:04:27,629
Rubenstein. We had a joint

1808
01:04:23,993 --> 01:04:29,765
powers authority with the

1809
01:04:25,761 --> 01:04:31,867
county and the nonprofit that

1810
01:04:27,696 --> 01:04:34,370
you're part of are LAHSA. And

1811
01:04:29,831 --> 01:04:35,804
even then, it was a struggle to

1812
01:04:31,934 --> 01:04:37,640
get data and clear answers. And

1813
01:04:34,437 --> 01:04:39,742
for the past two years, we're

1814
01:04:35,871 --> 01:04:41,176
trying to get metrics to drive

1815
01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:42,745
better outcomes. And now you're

1816
01:04:39,809 --> 01:04:44,780
saying that as long as we have

1817
01:04:41,243 --> 01:04:45,881
strong legal contracts that are

1818
01:04:42,811 --> 01:04:48,384
in place to share that

1819
01:04:44,847 --> 01:04:49,485
information, then we should be

1820
01:04:45,948 --> 01:04:52,321
able to get it. And just from

1821
01:04:48,451 --> 01:04:53,489
experience, from my short time

1822
01:04:49,552 --> 01:04:55,624
here, that's not promising,

1823
01:04:52,388 --> 01:04:57,393
considering it may be with a

1824
01:04:53,555 --> 01:04:58,861
new party and it's starting the

1825
01:04:55,691 --> 01:05:00,262
relationship all over again.

1826
01:04:57,460 --> 01:05:01,764
And even though we may have

1827
01:04:58,928 --> 01:05:03,899
this baseline, it really makes

1828
01:05:00,329 --> 01:05:06,134
the work that has been done

1829
01:05:01,831 --> 01:05:07,770
null and void and really having

1830
01:05:03,966 --> 01:05:10,039
to build it up again. So that's

1831
01:05:06,201 --> 01:05:11,807
just really disappointing to

1832
01:05:07,837 --> 01:05:13,609
hear, and I wish we could have

1833
01:05:10,106 --> 01:05:16,111
figured out how these metrics

1834
01:05:11,874 --> 01:05:17,245
maybe could have gotten us to a

1835
01:05:13,676 --> 01:05:19,181
better COC system sooner,

1836
01:05:16,178 --> 01:05:21,650
because the fact that we have

1837
01:05:17,312 --> 01:05:24,420
to start over or may have to

1838
01:05:19,247 --> 01:05:26,588
start over at this time, when

1839
01:05:21,717 --> 01:05:28,090
we are not in a great fiscal

1840
01:05:24,487 --> 01:05:30,025
situation and political

1841
01:05:26,655 --> 01:05:31,260
circumstances, obviously is

1842
01:05:28,156 --> 01:05:34,096
just not opportune. But I just

1843
01:05:30,092 --> 01:05:35,497
that's what I'm hearing right

1844
01:05:31,327 --> 01:05:37,733
now. And it's really concerning.

1845
01:05:34,163 --> 01:05:42,404
I think that's another reason

1846
01:05:35,564 --> 01:05:44,239
why, at least in the very near

1847
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:46,375
term, are our hope is that

1848
01:05:42,471 --> 01:05:49,011
LAHSA lawsuit is successful

1849
01:05:44,306 --> 01:05:50,913
because at least we have the

1850
01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:52,081
status quo for a period of time

1851
01:05:49,078 --> 01:05:53,549
for the city and the county to

1852
01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:56,085
be very deliberative about

1853
01:05:52,148 --> 01:05:58,988
whatever changes are happening

1854
01:05:53,616 --> 01:06:01,457
instead of them happening under

1855
01:05:56,152 --> 01:06:02,858
duress. I appreciate that, but

1856
01:05:59,055 --> 01:06:05,161
I also know that the federal

1857
01:06:01,524 --> 01:06:07,229
government like this comes as

1858
01:06:02,925 --> 01:06:08,764
no surprise what they did. It

1859
01:06:05,227 --> 01:06:14,837
was about the timing and when.

1860
01:06:07,296 --> 01:06:17,339
And so to not have prepared for

1861
01:06:08,830 --> 01:06:18,573
this moment sooner feels I just

1862
01:06:14,904 --> 01:06:20,376
you know, I get I get mad. But

1863
01:06:17,406 --> 01:06:22,745
anyways, I one thing I wanted

1864
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:24,580
to say before I leave the mic

1865
01:06:20,442 --> 01:06:25,614
is that, the AmeriCorps

1866
01:06:22,812 --> 01:06:27,549
students, thank you for your

1867
01:06:24,647 --> 01:06:29,585
participation. Don't forget,

1868
01:06:25,681 --> 01:06:31,687
when you apply for grad school

1869
01:06:27,616 --> 01:06:33,122
and undergrad, you qualify for

1870
01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:34,957
fee waivers as long as you show

1871
01:06:31,754 --> 01:06:36,792
that you're in the AmeriCorps

1872
01:06:33,189 --> 01:06:39,027
program. So make sure that you

1873
01:06:35,024 --> 01:06:40,296
keep your acceptance letter in

1874
01:06:36,859 --> 01:06:42,231
an email as a PDF, okay?

1875
01:06:39,094 --> 01:06:43,498
Because you don't want to go

1876
01:06:40,362 --> 01:06:44,733
back to your email and try to

1877
01:06:42,298 --> 01:06:46,535
look for it and realize your

1878
01:06:43,565 --> 01:06:48,203
old embarrassing email you

1879
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:50,406
don't have access to, because

1880
01:06:46,602 --> 01:06:52,574
you'll need that when you apply

1881
01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:54,844
to undergrad, and especially if

1882
01:06:50,473 --> 01:06:56,245
you go to law school, okay, you

1883
01:06:52,641 --> 01:06:58,914
get a fee waiver. And also you

1884
01:06:54,910 --> 01:07:02,317
can get a scholarship at some

1885
01:06:56,312 --> 01:07:04,119
of the schools for like 1000 or

1886
01:06:58,981 --> 01:07:05,454
$2000, which is good. Thank you.

1887
01:07:02,384 --> 01:07:07,456
Councilmember. And I just

1888
01:07:04,186 --> 01:07:08,690
wanted to say before everyone

1889
01:07:05,521 --> 01:07:09,625
ran off at the end that we were

1890
01:07:07,523 --> 01:07:10,726
hoping to take a picture with

1891
01:07:08,757 --> 01:07:11,694
the AmeriCorps volunteers

1892
01:07:09,692 --> 01:07:12,895
before everyone left. So please

1893
01:07:10,793 --> 01:07:16,365
don't run off after this

1894
01:07:11,761 --> 01:07:17,399
meeting. Councilmember McCosker,

1895
01:07:12,961 --> 01:07:18,400
go ahead. I'm going to let that

1896
01:07:16,432 --> 01:07:21,770
inspirational speech hang in

1897
01:07:17,466 --> 01:07:23,439
the air. There's nothing I

1898
01:07:18,467 --> 01:07:24,606
could ask, most of which I know

1899
01:07:21,837 --> 01:07:26,475
the answers to that would be

1900
01:07:23,506 --> 01:07:28,277
helpful to the situation. We'll

1901
01:07:24,673 --> 01:07:29,745
just watch for the federal case.

1902
01:07:26,542 --> 01:07:30,779
I do take exception to the

1903
01:07:28,344 --> 01:07:32,181
statement which you say and

1904
01:07:29,812 --> 01:07:35,050
kindness that the county has

1905
01:07:30,845 --> 01:07:37,219
the ability to stand this up.

1906
01:07:32,248 --> 01:07:38,920
They do not. The county does

1907
01:07:35,117 --> 01:07:40,489
not have the capacity to

1908
01:07:37,286 --> 01:07:41,657
fulfill the false promise that

1909
01:07:38,987 --> 01:07:44,059
they put in that letter.

1910
01:07:40,556 --> 01:07:45,894
Looking forward to the feds

1911
01:07:41,724 --> 01:07:48,464
response. But in my district,

1912
01:07:44,126 --> 01:07:50,665
we're already experiencing

1913
01:07:45,961 --> 01:07:52,401
folks in the field making calls

1914
01:07:48,531 --> 01:07:53,235
to shelter outside the city,

1915
01:07:50,732 --> 01:07:55,270
where the answer from the

1916
01:07:52,468 --> 01:07:59,274
administrators of the shelter

1917
01:07:53,302 --> 01:08:01,076
is that the county has told us

1918
01:07:55,337 --> 01:08:04,179
no city clients, no city

1919
01:07:59,341 --> 01:08:05,380
clients. And think of what CD

1920
01:08:01,143 --> 01:08:06,748
15 is. We house

1921
01:08:04,246 --> 01:08:08,250
disproportionately more and

1922
01:08:05,447 --> 01:08:09,852
shelter. We shelter

1923
01:08:06,815 --> 01:08:11,420
disproportionately more than

1924
01:08:08,317 --> 01:08:14,356
the folks that we have on the

1925
01:08:09,919 --> 01:08:15,724
street. And when we are full

1926
01:08:11,487 --> 01:08:17,192
and we make calls to shelter

1927
01:08:14,423 --> 01:08:20,829
outside of the city of Los

1928
01:08:15,790 --> 01:08:24,133
Angeles, the answer is the

1929
01:08:17,259 --> 01:08:25,868
county has told us, take no

1930
01:08:20,896 --> 01:08:26,969
customers from the city. So we

1931
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:30,506
may say that Donald Trump and

1932
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:32,708
the federal government is

1933
01:08:27,036 --> 01:08:34,810
attacking us. At least they're

1934
01:08:30,573 --> 01:08:37,479
morons. We have the county

1935
01:08:32,775 --> 01:08:40,582
attacking us in the same way,

1936
01:08:34,877 --> 01:08:43,185
with no regard for taking care

1937
01:08:37,546 --> 01:08:44,386
of homelessness. They have some

1938
01:08:40,649 --> 01:08:47,189
other agenda, and they're a

1939
01:08:43,252 --> 01:08:49,057
little bit smarter than Donald

1940
01:08:44,453 --> 01:08:50,192
Trump. I hope we have some time

1941
01:08:47,255 --> 01:08:51,360
to talk about that after this.

1942
01:08:49,124 --> 01:08:53,195
I would like to get more

1943
01:08:50,258 --> 01:08:54,229
details on that. Yeah, you'll

1944
01:08:51,426 --> 01:08:57,166
get it. I'll get you names and

1945
01:08:53,261 --> 01:08:59,001
numbers. Perfect. Thank you.

1946
01:08:54,296 --> 01:09:02,004
Because we have we have a a

1947
01:08:57,233 --> 01:09:04,006
county agency that has declared

1948
01:08:59,068 --> 01:09:05,107
war on homeless people. Those

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are the folks getting punished.

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They think they're hurting the

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city. Well, what they are doing

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is missing their mission. Thank

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you, Councilmember Mcosker. And

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that, why I am fixated on data

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ownership is because if we're

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in a circumstance where, you

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know, we have less control over

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that data, we don't that is the

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only pathway to accountability

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is through data. Right? And

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we've fought and clawed our way

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to filling beds that we fund.

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And if we lose access to even

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that information, then we will

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be worse off than we were

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before. So I'm, you know, I

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just want to be very, very

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cautious about how we move

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forward here. Councilmember

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Blumenfield, did you have any

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questions? I thought I saw, you

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know, I I'm on the same page.

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Yeah, great. I just wanted to

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make sure everyone on this

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committee was aware of, of

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changes because I know it's

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complicated. I know you're all

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reading news articles, but I

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just want to make sure we all

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had the same information and we

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know who to go to in the city

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if we want updates. Meg is an

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enormous wealth of, resources

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and historical knowledge as

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well. So I'm really grateful

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that, That you're on the case.

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Thank you. And that we can, we

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can move forward here. And, I

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think we have a lot of work to

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do and we'll see what happens

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tomorrow. So and barring any

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other councilmember, I don't

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know if you had any comments.

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Okay. Thank you so much to both

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of you for being here. We look

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forward to getting an update

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from the court hearing tomorrow.

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And, Miss Jen, are we all set

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with our agenda? Yes, madam

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chair, the desk is clear. The

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desk is clear. But if I could

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make a request that we keep the

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lights on in the council

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chambers, just for a few

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moments while we take a picture,

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we can adjourn. And, guys,

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thank you all. This has been so

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exciting. It's our last meeting

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of the Housing and Homelessness

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Committee. As a combined

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meeting. This committee was

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created in the aftermath of the

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tape's leaking. There were not

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enough members on that on the

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council at the time to chair

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all the committees. And this

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seemed like a natural

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intersection of issues. And

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I've been been very fortunate

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to chair it in all its

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iterations for, for a couple of

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years. So thank you all so much.

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It's been really a pleasure.

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And look forward to working

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with you all on these issues as

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we move forward. So thank you.

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Thank you for sharing it. Thank

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you. Are you all right? You

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want to come up? Yeah.