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Bear, Truxillo, Milligan, Gaines, here.

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Thank you very much.

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Local permanent application made by the applicant that is approved by the parish. So if the parish staff is saying that they don't have a complete application, then it should not be heard, because it's not complete, because the requirements are what is necessary. Okay, so I understand that all of you guys took your time off. That's why I'm trying to be very clear about everything that's going on tonight, because I respect your time, and I want to respect your time. So what we're hearing is

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And now is the merits of the case or not what we're talking about now.

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It's about whether we're postponing it or not.

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So I'm going to call on the speakers who wish to be heard to give you an opportunity.

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Thank you, sorry.

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Yes, sir.

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Good evening.

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While we are, I'll put it this way, we are tired of sort of being called back.

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I appreciate y'all's efforts, but it does seem like.

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us with no background yet have done an incredible amount of work in conditional technical

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briefs have been sent to you guys and it would seem that those who have professional experience

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would be done by now. However, I understand your position so we will not stand in the way

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we want to make sure this is done right and the appropriate decision has made.

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You know, and to be honest with you to give me time to go through that 300 page document that was sent to you know

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So it would it would not be unused unused time, okay? Okay. Thank you, Mr. Adams. Thank you. Scott

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Mr. Scott, do you wish to speak?

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Is that Mr. Scott? No, yes?

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Yes,

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sir

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Good evening

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And this is the third time we've come here.

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And of course, you know, that's getting postponed again.

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I understand that, you know, they need time to do their stuff.

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But I don't want a dirt pit right on my property line.

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I understand, and that's not worth it.

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I understand, yeah.

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So I've just, you know.

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So, and just so I want to make sure that you understand as well,

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the items that they have requested could materially change

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the application that is before us. So that's why it's difficult for us to move forward

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because if they do have a material change to the application, we need to hear that

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with the change involved.

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And I totally understand that. I appreciate it.

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And I, you know, I want everybody to get all their everything together so you can

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rightfully do what you need to do.

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Thank you very much.

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Linda Pippins.

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Yes,

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ma'am.

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I would just like to ask a question since last month, why the applicant didn't have time to get this information together, and why he's getting it together the day before?

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So my understanding, he did, when he was up here, he did give a timeline, there was a request for information that was just all like a week ago, and they did, they did provide that, but they provided the day prior to this meeting.

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So, you know, I understand with a conditional use permit, there could be a lot of additional stuff that's required.

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You know, there's a, there's an exchange back and forth between the petitioner and staff.

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I just think they just didn't have enough time to get it all in an appropriate time for them to review it.

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Right.

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And it just looks like us in the public that it's being the lady and-

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That's why I'm trying to be extraordinarily clear as to what's going on.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Kevin Grief.

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Yes, sir.

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Thank you.

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I came here tonight fully prepared to oppose this postponement.

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Empty, completely empty file, the brief that we submitted shows that there's absolutely no business having a dirt pit in this location.

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File's not empty anymore and we need to look at it.

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So I'm speaking now briefly in support of the postponement so that we have a chance to look at what's been submitted.

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and respond to it appropriately.

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Thank you very much.

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Charles Newell,

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Mr. Newell.

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Thank you, I think that I actually thought

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I'd check the box, not to speak, but I'll be happy to speak.

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But the only question that I had was,

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and maybe I'm really not the brightest light in the room,

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but what kind of questions, what kind of things are, is the commission going to be looking at from the standpoint of approval or not approved?

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That's a great question.

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Could staff elaborate on the request that I am just to explain what their usage is so that everybody is a good understanding?

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We are requesting a existing and proposed drainage and fill plan, so to understand how the site is draining and where it feels being placed.

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Identification of the existing stream, the stream was not previously shown on the plans, so we're asking that to be shown.

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Proposed outfall structures, so we want to see where this site is draining.

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property lines, dimension to the proposed work area,

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meaning dimensions from each property line

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to the area where they're clearing is taking place,

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and the digging will take place,

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proposed hall road details to ensure

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that any kind of culvert sizing is appropriate,

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turn radius, things like that.

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Hydraulic and drainage calculations,

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damage trading compliance was section 960-3,

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including the required reduction in post-development peak

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runoff and supporting the 10 chain calculations to make sure that the site is adhering to basically

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all the required documentation in chapter 900 infrastructure that requires the site.

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I believe it's to, I'm not an engineer, so bear with me, but it's to show compliance with

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the fact that the site is going to improve drainage in the area, about to 25%.

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And a certified cut fill report verifying excavation volumes, cross sections identifying the normal water surface elevation and supporting grading information just so we can sell basically cross sections of the pond to see, you know, what's being dug and what the slips are things like that.

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Okay, so that would also include most of what I, some of these people are here for is the impact, which I didn't, I'm not sure I heard.

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That's exactly right.

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To everything that they are concerned about.

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That is correct.

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Okay, well I appreciate it and again, this was kind of impromptu.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Anyone else in the audience who is to speak in favor or against?

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Okay, I'll bring it back to the commission.

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Commission, Commissioner Roper.

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Thank you.

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Okay, I want to be quick.

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I'll apologize.

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It's been a chaotic one.

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Staff is reminding me that we have to give Mr. Shane a rebuttal period.

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Do you wish to use it?

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Okay.

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Initial time.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I want to hit your mic again.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Staff, Mr. Shane, how far are we away from having the documents?

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Are we realistically looking at a one-month postponement here, or is this going to happen again in a month?

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We have the documents. We got them today this morning.

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Okay, my next question, back and forth with engineering.

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How do we anticipate, so we anticipate that in a month this will be ready fully to be heard.

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We anticipate within a month we should be able to review it, get comments back, and I would assume in a time frame that allows the petitioner to turn new plans around addressing.

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those comments. Mr. Shane, do you concur? Are we?

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I concur, but I respectfully request and hope that staff can perhaps get us the comments

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sooner than a week before next meeting. If there are any. And that's not a criticism.

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I understand they workload. But I believe that based on the meeting we had yesterday, we

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made a full production this morning, engineering department today suggested they would need

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25 to seven working days to evaluate what we tendered this morning.

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So assuming they can hold to that schedule and we get feedback, that should give us a chance if necessary to submit revisions and keep us on track for September hearing.

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Thank you, Mr. Shane.

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Okay, in light of this comment, so looking at the laundry list of items that are missing for this conditional use permit, my main concern is the temporary erosion control plan.

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because everyone in this room is terrified

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that this is going to contaminate their well

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and their drinking water.

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That being said, prior to our last meeting,

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I contacted the well-driller who was on the majority

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of the driller's logs for this area.

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I learned so much about the aquifers in this area.

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The reason I am in favor of postponement

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is because all of these wells are water table aquifer wells,

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which means that the creek actually feeds

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the aquifer itself. And there are some wells not far from this property that are dug at a more

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shallow depth because it is less expensive to dig that depth of a well, and that creek actively

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feeds. So if the erosion control plan is not rock solid, then the fear of everybody in this room

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is going to come to fruition. And I don't want to take that chance. So that being said, I would like to

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To ask the folks who are in this room for this conditional use permit, are you accessing our packets before the meeting and reading the actual, the full blown every staff report?

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I would like to request that in our next meeting that you read that packet and if there is a recommendation from staff and therefore postponement, please feel free to reach out to us.

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Because we will not put through something on a conditional use permit because the ramifications for us approving something.

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without all of the information are way too high.

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Please, please reach out to the commission to find out, I'm just going to tell you,

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I have no intention of voting on anything that the staff recommends we postpone.

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Because I'm not a civil engineer, I'm not an APA planner like our staff are.

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I rely on the professionals and I trust them who work for this department.

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So if they recommend postponement, I'm inclined to grant it.

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So read the packet before hand, and if it says that they request postponement, it takes you guys 30 minutes to get here.

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It's not fair to drag you guys out every month because we're missing an engineering page.

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That being said, I would like to make a motion to postpone for one month if staff and Mr. Schaener confident that we can get this done in one month.

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Injury department did respond to say five to seven days.

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Motion to postpone for one month.

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Motion to postpone for one month, commission to repair, commission to see her.

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Thank you all for coming out.

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My question is for staff.

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Item two on tonight's agenda specifically lists ward five and district six.

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Will that impact case number one?

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in any way, shape, or form?

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Do you read that?

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Say it in the record, please.

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No, or not.

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I'll second.

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Can I mention the Royal Bears motion?

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Yeah, any agency changes.

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Yeah, I get you.

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All right, so we have a motion to postpone for one month

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and a second, please vote.

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Motion to postpone, one month carries.

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Please tell me you don't have any more postponments.

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Do you want to ask Jeff if he wants to vote if you still want us to distribute that or if he wants to think about it?

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Hey guys, we have a full meeting still so please take your conversations out.

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I don't love the one.

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What is it?

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opportunity for the

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new

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perfect

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and

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and

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and

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and

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and

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and

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Yeah, I thought it was not going to get you by the time.

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Thank you.

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You know, Britain did a good job out there.

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Better get out.

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Yeah.

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It's just everybody has to do their part.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I don't know.

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When is our next building?

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September first.

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September first.

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And then you look at that one.

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You tell me some questions.

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Okay, get some stuff.

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When's our next building?

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Okay, so I'm assuming we don't have any additional postponements, Helen. Okay, so we're starting off with item number four on the agenda.

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No, yes, not too.

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We're going to get through this quick.

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Mike. Item number four, 2026, 4716, ZC, large lot, residential district, proposed zoning, S1, suburban, residential district, location, parking,

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Marshall is located on the south side of Firetile Road, west of LA Highway 59, being 21, 31, 0, Firetile Road, Manaville, Ward 4, District 11, 0.6 acres.

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Nicholas Nelson is the petitioner and owner.

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Staff?

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The applicant is requesting to rezone a 0.6 acre parcel from L1 large lot residential district S1.

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And there's currently an existing single-family residence on the property, and the objective of the request is to be able to subdivide the property to be able to build another single-family residence on the property.

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Just to inform the board, you may or may not have had a chance to look at the email that I forwarded you in regards to this particular case, which came to me at 4.35 this afternoon and I forwarded it to you.

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So if one of the commission wants to read it, also, there's other people here in the audience

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who are still filling out speaker cards and that particular case just wanted to let you know, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you.

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Is the petitioner Mr. Nelson here?

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir, come on forward.

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Do you have anything to add?

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I

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don't have anything to add, no.

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All right, thank you very much.

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All right, thank you.

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Does anyone else in the audience wish to speak in favor?

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I have one speaker card, do we have some others?

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Thank you, Ben.

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Okay, I have one against Mr. Dale Norman, yes sir.

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Yes sir, I'm a resident fire tire road.

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We have several other residents that here, we all oppose this.

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Our zoning has been on L1, I've been there for 30 years and it's been that all the way.

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And by putting the smaller allowing these S1s in is going to, we think over populate.

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Number one, we're all on wells, we're all on septic sewage treatment systems.

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And the infrastructure there is not one to handle it.

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just a few new residents that have popped up

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because a lot of traffic problems on a dead end road.

238
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And I think one of the most important things

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is that that road is so narrow

240
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that the school bus drivers have refused to come back

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to the end of the road to pick up our kit.

242
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It's a little more than 12.5 foot wide at the end.

243
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So a school bus trying to pass vehicles,

244
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We've had several people that have complained, they went into ditch.

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The one school bus had backed into a telephone pole and refused to come back.

246
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Now this has been going on for four years for that part.

247
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By putting this S1, there's a lot of other properties along there that we think it's gonna open up to other contractors who are going to want to come in and put these small houses in this area.

248
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And being that the dead end, I am at the very dead end and they come down and turn around a lot of times with trailers and everything else and there's really no room to do this.

249
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So we're in opposition of it and right now all of my neighbors, there's probably almost a dozen here that are filling out the cards to oppose it.

250
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And we're asking the council not to approve it.

251
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Okay, well, yeah, three more minutes left. So I'm gonna take anybody else who wants to come up. Okay, anyone else wish to speak against?

252
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My name is Mike. I'm also resident pre-vote road. I've also been there for 32 years

253
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Yeah, we are trying we have a very thin road like he said

254
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It's very hard now to get up and down the street and

255
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most of our properties are

256
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I own three-and-a-half acres, they're mostly an acre or two, and like you said it's

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going to open us up for a bunch of traffic on a dead-end road, and we're

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packed already. We've had, like you said, school bus accidents. You can't pass. If a

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school bus is coming, you have to put in somewhere's driveway or go to the

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actual fire tower, and that's it. I'm just supposed. That's all. Thank you.

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that you give her your card, please?

262
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Anyone else in the audience who's to speak against?

263
00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:33,690
Come on.

264
00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:40,190
There are two minutes, anybody else wants to speak?

265
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Come on deck.

266
00:35:41,950 --> 00:35:44,070
Oh, well, my name is Malcolm Farmer.

267
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I live across the street from the properties

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that they're trying to re-zone.

269
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The property across the street used to be a septic pool.

270
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It has a spray system on the house now that sprays

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all of the way into the woods and everything right now.

272
00:35:58,870 --> 00:36:00,730
The property is not really large enough.

273
00:36:00,730 --> 00:36:05,150
The property out there has had a lot of issues between the surveys and everything.

274
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:11,150
There's actually a piece of property in between a new house that's being built in the property they're trying to rezone.

275
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It's only about 20 feet wide and it goes into a triangle, about 30 feet into the woods.

276
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It's all mixed up, crossed over, everything's all kind of squirreling on it.

277
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But the house over there has been worked on a couple of times already by different contractors and things.

278
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And we're not seeing any kind of permits or any kind of inspections being done on the home or anything yet.

279
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So we're kind of curious what's going on and now that they're trying to change it and

280
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divide the property up to put more houses on it.

281
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We're not sure about how this is all going to operate when things aren't being done properly in the first place it seems.

282
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Thank you.

283
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:49,890
Okay.

284
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:53,850
Anyone else in the audience who's to speak against?

285
00:36:54,370 --> 00:36:54,830
Yes, sir?

286
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You have one minute.

287
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There's going to be some additional time afterwards, but.

288
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Patron McCollough, the one far-tower road, and my driveway is somewhat circular.

289
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And because of how narrow the road is, that people drive through my driveway.

290
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If there was more houses put on far-tower road, that's that many people coming down one way.

291
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Cannot turn around when they get to the very end of the road.

292
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There's not a area of city property to turn around at the end of the road and that's a problem for all of us.

293
00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:32,110
Is this parish road?

294
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:35,210
Is it parish road?

295
00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:36,350
Yes, it is.

296
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Okay.

297
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Thank you.

298
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So.

299
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I'm curious.

300
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Yeah.

301
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And that's, you know, why I'm against mainly the traffic.

302
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Thank you.

303
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Did you fill out a card?

304
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Yes.

305
00:37:46,770 --> 00:37:46,930
Okay.

306
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:48,250
Do you turn that in for me?

307
00:37:51,110 --> 00:37:53,170
Anyone else in the audience who's to speak against?

308
00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:56,870
Mr. Nelson, this is your rebuttal time.

309
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You have three minutes.

310
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All right, first off, I'd like to say that the lot that I have,

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when I sub-divine it, it's still going to be about the same size as every other house in the neighborhood.

312
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Yes, it is.

313
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No, no, no, no, no, no.

314
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Yes, it is.

315
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It's his time to speak.

316
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,560
We don't, we're not looking at that.

317
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I'll look it up on DO portal and I'll look at everyone.

318
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:32,080
All right. All right. All right. Let me let me let me explain how this works. Guys. He's up here. He's going to speak. You speak to us. You don't speak to the crowd or anybody else. Yeah, you ask us questions. We can.

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00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:51,420
As far as the fellow say in no permits, there's a big old permit placard on the front on the on the on the temporary power pole on the house. You know, I mean, that's just ridiculous. He's making stuff. Okay. Any other comments? No, I mean, it's just like I said, 0.30 of an acre is what I'm trying to get it down to.

320
00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:57,680
And there's not many houses, any property, many properties on that road that are bigger than that.

321
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There's a couple, but not many.

322
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:00,980
All right, thank you.

323
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Sir, I'm going to ask you, if you do that again, I'm going to have you removed, okay?

324
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Do not speak and comment to the audience.

325
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Just a morning.

326
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:15,840
Thank you.

327
00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:22,700
Anyone else wish to speak? Use your rebuttal time to speak against. This is your time.

328
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Do you have any other comments that you'd like to make?

329
00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:28,340
Come on.

330
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,900
If you'll check on zoning planning and things on the property around there,

331
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,800
most of the acreage around there are 1 acre lots and that's what the homes are on.

332
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,740
I tried to subdivide to be able to put a home on mine before my son.

333
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:45,760
They told me I couldn't do it. They wouldn't allow it.

334
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:52,340
So that's why we're trying to say that almost everybody out there has between 1 to 5 to 10 acres or more.

335
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And we're trying not to do this because right now it's going to affect our water supplies where we keep on tapping in the wells.

336
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We don't have city service. We don't have surge for the city. We don't have water from the city.

337
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So we're constantly drilling into the ground and dropping more waste into the ground and tapping more water out of our huck for fear.

338
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So that's why we're trying to find out, you know, where's it's going to stop because there is other properties on that on that street that are for sale.

339
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And that's not that's not going to stop anybody from coming in and putting in different places.

340
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And lately what we've been seeing is a couple of people have come in, bought up FEMA trailers and renting them out as section 8 property.

341
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And so, things are starting to change and we're trying to get a handle on this because we can't keep having all these things going through like this.

342
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And so, I'm just trying to say that somebody needs to do either a study on the impact of it because our roads are horrible, our ditches are really terrible.

343
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And they're constantly trying to do things on that property and stuff.

344
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Thank you very much, sir.

345
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Thank you.

346
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:07,360
Can I add one thing?

347
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Yes, sir.

348
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Come up to the microphone.

349
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:11,300
Okay, I just want to add one thing.

350
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You have a minute left, okay?

351
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,760
Okay, okay.

352
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I just want to add today, I went over to the planning zone and I looked at it and

353
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we both agree that every piece of property on both sides of five tile road is the L1 designation.

354
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So it's no small lot, so whatever, how you want to look at it is L1.

355
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Thank you very much.

356
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Anyone else wish to speak?

357
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,500
Okay, public comment is over.

358
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I'll bring it back to the Commission and Commissioner Robair.

359
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Thank you.

360
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I want to clear something up.

361
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I think there's confusion over the property size in this area because this is actually currently

362
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a non-conforming lot of record from what I'm seeing.

363
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:56,520
It is 0.6 acres and full, but it is zoned for one acre.

364
00:41:58,220 --> 00:42:04,500
So while it already falls short of the zoning designation, it's what's considered a non-conforming lot of record.

365
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,900
However, there is no S1 in this immediate area.

366
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Sir, if there are truly manufactured homes being placed on properties on fire tower road,

367
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I would highly encourage you to call the parish because there is no manufacturer housing overlay on that route as of right now,

368
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,000
which means that they are in violation of parish code.

369
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,340
So please reach out to the permit office and file a complaint.

370
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,780
It's okay, no, it's okay, thank you, though.

371
00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:38,060
And if you have already complained and they haven't responded, call them again.

372
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:43,430
Okay.

373
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That's fine, they can't replace them in that case.

374
00:42:48,590 --> 00:42:55,510
Okay, my main concern with this is the fact that fire tower road is just south and

375
00:42:55,510 --> 00:43:00,430
Barely skirts the line of the Dove Park, I'm sorry, not Dove Park.

376
00:43:00,730 --> 00:43:06,750
The Helen Burke and Soul Road area of special concern, which tells me we already have drainage problems in this area.

377
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:09,070
I drive 59 every single day.

378
00:43:09,070 --> 00:43:10,890
I'm going to pass this again to get home to a beta.

379
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:21,170
I just can't see adding density of 0.3 acres, two homes on a property that is just over a half acre.

380
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So I would make a motion to deny.

381
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:22,790
All right.

382
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:23,330
Okay.

383
00:43:23,450 --> 00:43:24,970
Motion to deny a commission, Robert.

384
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Commissioner Seger.

385
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I have a question for Mr. Nelson.

386
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Please.

387
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:32,070
Mr. Nelson.

388
00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:33,450
Come on to the microphone, please, sir.

389
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:38,570
Mr. Nelson.

390
00:43:38,830 --> 00:43:38,970
Yes, sir.

391
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:40,890
Have you purchased this lot already?

392
00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:42,570
Yes, I own it.

393
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:44,010
And how long have you owned it?

394
00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:46,930
I bought it at the end of last year.

395
00:43:47,530 --> 00:43:47,690
Okay.

396
00:43:48,430 --> 00:43:53,350
And I mean, the house that they're building next door to my light is 0.308.

397
00:43:53,350 --> 00:43:56,590
Well, you know, and they just bought that life.

398
00:43:56,810 --> 00:44:01,330
My question is, when you had the survey done,

399
00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:05,750
were you aware that it was, did not meet the standards

400
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for L1 large, lot residential?

401
00:44:09,850 --> 00:44:12,990
Yeah, I was told by Councilman, Mr. Arthur Langland,

402
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that I could rezone it.

403
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:18,150
He's in favor of it.

404
00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:20,670
I have

405
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:32,360
a problem with a couple of things, the smallest of it, and all of the lots around

406
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,980
there, northeast south and west are already, you know, one.

407
00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:41,160
But if you look at the lot sizes of them, maybe farther down the road, they're a little bigger,

408
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:48,780
but I mean, they're generally, you know, 100 foot furniture or smaller until you get to

409
00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:49,160
the back.

410
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,880
I'm going to second Mr. Robert's thank you very much sir. Thank you. Thank you

411
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,520
We have a motion to deny in a second. Any further discussion? Please vote.

412
00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:15,000
Motion to deny carries.

413
00:45:18,850 --> 00:45:21,950
Item number five. Item

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number five, 2026, 4725, ZC, existing zoning is ruled residential district. Proposed zoning, L1, large light residential district. Location parts were located in the south and east sides of the church. Petitioner and owner, Rudolph, Stahl.

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The applicant is requesting to rezone 3.09 acres from R1 rural residential district to L1 large lot residential district.

416
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The subject property is developed with the existing single family residents.

417
00:46:05,770 --> 00:46:12,870
The minimum lot area required for the L1 district is 1 acre with a minimum lot width of 150 feet.

418
00:46:14,610 --> 00:46:20,410
Excuse me, if approved that can may apply for a minor subdivision to create 31-8 relapse.

419
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:23,570
Is the petitioner here?

420
00:46:25,070 --> 00:46:26,370
Is there, do you have anything to add?

421
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:29,410
Do you have any comments about your petition?

422
00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:36,230
No, I have nothing to add if the staff is satisfied with our application.

423
00:46:36,670 --> 00:46:40,410
If it's all in order, then I request the approval.

424
00:46:40,810 --> 00:46:41,850
All right, thank you very much.

425
00:46:45,090 --> 00:46:45,610
All

426
00:46:49,930 --> 00:46:56,630
right. Anyone any audience wish to speak in favor? Anyone opposed? We'll bring it back

427
00:46:56,630 --> 00:47:04,190
to the commission. Commissioner Rivera. Okay, so while this property does not directly

428
00:47:04,190 --> 00:47:10,570
abide other L1, there is scattered L1 all over this area. So I don't necessarily have an issue

429
00:47:10,570 --> 00:47:15,030
with this one. I would like to, however, point out, I'm assuming this last drawing that we

430
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:17,350
We have the preliminary resubdivision.

431
00:47:17,830 --> 00:47:25,150
One of those lots is currently short of the 150 foot width requirement that it needs

432
00:47:25,150 --> 00:47:26,550
to be in place for L1.

433
00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:33,350
So I'm sure staff already may have, did staff already speak to the petitioner regarding

434
00:47:33,350 --> 00:47:33,810
that?

435
00:47:33,870 --> 00:47:38,320
I'm just going to have to have a waiver in the planning stage.

436
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,420
I don't see a waiver in the planning, be in planning.

437
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:42,260
No, I know.

438
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:42,620
I know.

439
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:46,180
I'm just making sure that they, okay.

440
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:48,820
Okay, it is short by 25 feet right now.

441
00:47:48,960 --> 00:48:01,180
If you guys can adjust that, I would highly recommend it because then you're going to have to come in front of us for a waiver, which that's another meeting you'll have to go to when you do the resub division.

442
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:05,320
I'd like to make a motion to approve this one.

443
00:48:05,780 --> 00:48:08,940
Okay, motion to approve, Commissioner Robair, Commissioner Martino.

444
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,660
So can the petitioner come up, so with those comments, does that make sense?

445
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:25,980
I just want to make sure, so staff is going to make sure that you're aware of.

446
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,280
My name is Carl Stahl.

447
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,980
I live at 12291 McDonald Road, which is right in front of Burt Lane.

448
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:39,440
I've lived there since 1965, one my wife has since 1965.

449
00:48:40,340 --> 00:48:41,540
I know the area well.

450
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:58,460
on McDonald Road there are 50 foot lots, that's on there so we're actually for one acre so that and keep all our family together and I know it falls a little bit short but we're unaware of that.

451
00:48:58,460 --> 00:49:06,220
Let me can I pause for one second I have no issue with this and I think staff would also make some

452
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:09,460
Recommendations, but we just want to eliminate

453
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:16,320
The process of having to come back in front of us. Okay, we're pushing and I appreciate all y'all do

454
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:22,680
I know you go through hell what time we have in front of us this complete. So we have no I have no objection

455
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:28,280
You're off. Thank you. You're awesome. Thank you sir. I make a second to approve. We have a motion

456
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,540
Question in a second to approve.

457
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:33,100
I see no further discussion, please vote.

458
00:49:40,690 --> 00:49:42,090
Motion to approve, carries.

459
00:49:44,090 --> 00:49:49,030
Item number six, 2026, 47, 27, ZC, existing zoning,

460
00:49:49,630 --> 00:49:53,710
rural residential district, and rural overlay, proposed zoning,

461
00:49:54,030 --> 00:49:59,090
rural residential district, rural overlay, and MHL manufacturing home overlay.

462
00:49:59,910 --> 00:50:04,110
Location, partial is located on the west side of LA 40.

463
00:50:04,110 --> 00:50:07,890
and the south side of Sturmer Drive Busch,

464
00:50:08,010 --> 00:50:10,850
Ward 2 District 6, 2.6 acres,

465
00:50:11,050 --> 00:50:12,390
petitioner is Summer Hudson.

466
00:50:13,150 --> 00:50:15,170
Owners are Chase and Tiffany Hudson.

467
00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:16,470
Staff?

468
00:50:17,310 --> 00:50:21,570
The applicant is requesting to resound the 2.68 acres

469
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:24,210
from R2, rural residential district,

470
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:28,770
rural overlay to R2, rural residential district,

471
00:50:29,250 --> 00:50:32,570
rural overlay and a manufacturer housing overlay.

472
00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:38,690
The current property is developed with an existing manufacturer home, which is a non-conforming

473
00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:39,390
structure.

474
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:44,730
In your packet, there is a map showing that much of the surrounding property along both

475
00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:50,630
the east and west sides of highway 40 is designated with the MHL manufacturer housing overlay.

476
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:56,150
If approved, the applicant may apply for a building permit to place manufacturer home on the

477
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:56,510
property.

478
00:50:57,030 --> 00:51:01,070
In addition to the existing non-conforming manufacturer home, we'll be brought into compliance

479
00:51:01,070 --> 00:51:02,850
with the appropriate zoning.

480
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:06,250
Thank you. Mr. Hudson.

481
00:51:08,260 --> 00:51:08,840
Come on.

482
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,020
You fill that in a card here. I'm assuming that you wanted to speak, so.

483
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,620
One that you're actually needing me to or not.

484
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:19,020
Come on forward.

485
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:22,380
You have anything to add. You walked all the way.

486
00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:23,440
I might as well say something.

487
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:26,300
Good evening. Thank you for everything you all do.

488
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:29,200
Like the gentleman said, you all go through enough as it is.

489
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,580
And we're actually not here.

490
00:51:30,860 --> 00:51:33,920
We're actually here because of the lack of our permits and our planning.

491
00:51:34,780 --> 00:51:37,980
We actually had a home there by wife and I lost our home in Katrina.

492
00:51:38,740 --> 00:51:41,300
And we actually put a small, we were actually planning to build there.

493
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,920
And then the housing market crash and we ended up buying that trailer actually burned.

494
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:51,480
And when we attempted within about eight months of it burning,

495
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:57,540
they refused to give us back a permit, but your own ordinances say you have to.

496
00:51:57,540 --> 00:52:12,060
So we fought with permits, so we did this, we tried this a second time, then we got into planning and zoning, and then this last time we went to planning and zoning, I tried to, they said, well, you passed the new ordinance that said you can't have a manufactured home with a 300 feet.

497
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:18,580
I said, I'd be glad to put it 300 feet, are you paying for it? And when they looked at me and said, are you crazy?

498
00:52:18,580 --> 00:52:27,500
And I said, no, you won't mean our property has a natural branch, which now means state federal regulations have to be passed because of the water.

499
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:31,520
Then you have to build it up, and I said, if you're well, and then we started to finally talk, and

500
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:38,640
once we were able to show them that this process was lost in whatever gain, they said we would bring it up.

501
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:44,420
We'd have to go through this process of rezoning the pads already there, the septic system is still there in up to code.

502
00:52:44,420 --> 00:52:53,820
There's still a poll there, we just simply want to put it back to allow my oldest daughter, her husband and our grandson, and future granddaughter coming to have a rest.

503
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:55,240
Congratulations, thank you.

504
00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:58,180
Thank you very much, yes sir, appreciate it.

505
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:02,300
Anyone else in the audience who are speaking favor, anyone opposed?

506
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:05,400
Bring it back to the Commission, Commissioner Rivera.

507
00:53:06,220 --> 00:53:13,540
I don't have a problem with this, there's a lot of MHO in this area, while there's not a ton directly on the highway.

508
00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:15,000
I really don't have a problem with it.

509
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,720
It's a property that's had a mobile or

510
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,620
being a factory home there forever.

511
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,820
Mr. Hudson, are you an SRO?

512
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,800
Thank you for your service to our parish, our students, and

513
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,460
God bless you this week, going back to school.

514
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:30,280
We need it.

515
00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:31,800
We're going to be praying for you.

516
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,680
That being said, I would like to make a motion to approve.

517
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:38,300
Motion to approve, commission, repair, commission, seeker.

518
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,660
I have a couple of questions for you.

519
00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:49,060
You are really just a statement, long time no see.

520
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:56,540
Are you aware of the parishes requirements in terms of manufactured housing?

521
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,740
I am now, to date, yes.

522
00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:05,040
Okay, and you're in agreement that, to follow those requirements?

523
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,860
Absolutely, they're going to, you know, my daughter and her son, we already know all this is doing is allowing them

524
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:13,980
but to start the process, they're going to pass all in every code that they have to from there.

525
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,260
I'll second the motion.

526
00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:16,580
We have a motion in a second.

527
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,220
Commissioner Mark Tino, good job.

528
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:21,260
All right, no further comments.

529
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:21,860
You can sit down.

530
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,540
Thank you, sir.

531
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:22,940
Thank you.

532
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,700
No further discussion.

533
00:54:25,180 --> 00:54:26,080
We have a motion in a second.

534
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:26,580
Please vote.

535
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,020
Motion to approve, carries.

536
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:35,860
Item number eight.

537
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:41,340
I have number eight, 2026, 4737, ZC.

538
00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:49,800
Existing zoning large light residential district and RO proposed zoning L1 large light residential district and

539
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:56,280
Manufactured housing overlay and we're a lowly location parts are located on a north side of L.A.

540
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,140
40 and west side of short street Covington Ward 2 district 2

541
00:55:00,140 --> 00:55:02,860
1.45 acres

542
00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:05,660
Petitioners there in an April go mess

543
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:08,870
staff

544
00:55:09,950 --> 00:55:24,390
The applicant is requesting to reason on 1.45 acres from L1 large lot residential district and rule overlay to an L1 large lot residential district manufacturer housing overlay and a rule overlay.

545
00:55:24,830 --> 00:55:32,500
The subject property is currently developed with a single family residence as shown in the map below.

546
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:39,640
No, just a surrounding property, both Eastern West size of highway 40, have the surrounding manufacturer housing overlay.

547
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:44,640
If approved, the applicant may apply for a building permit to place a manufacturer home on the property.

548
00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:48,540
Okay, Ms. Gomez.

549
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:50,480
Mr. Gomez?

550
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,780
I didn't know which one was going to be here, so.

551
00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:54,740
You better ask, so you know.

552
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,520
Yeah, any comments?

553
00:55:57,180 --> 00:56:00,500
Yeah, just quickly, I just wanted to give the circumstance for the rezoning.

554
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:15,040
My father-in-law passed away, and my mother-in-law is going to be moving from under Louisiana down to the area, and this was a good, close place, and we had the acreage to be able to put a trailer on there so that we could essentially take care of her for the remainder of her life, though.

555
00:56:15,460 --> 00:56:16,460
Okay, thank you very much.

556
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,340
Anyone else in the audience who's to speak in favor?

557
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Anyone opposed?

558
00:56:22,340 --> 00:56:24,260
Bring it back to the Commission and Commissioner Martino.

559
00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:37,580
I know the area very well, and I believe with the size of the lot, and also the proximity of other MHOs, in this case, it's appropriate.

560
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,020
So I have no objection, I make a motion to approve.

561
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,920
Motion to approve, Commissioner Martino, Commissioner Seger.

562
00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:48,240
I'm looking at

563
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:59,330
item seven in the middle of the paragraph as a result, this would require multiple

564
00:56:59,330 --> 00:57:01,450
variances with the Board of Adjustments.

565
00:57:02,510 --> 00:57:05,650
We're not, item number seven on the agenda with-

566
00:57:05,650 --> 00:57:07,770
No, item seven on Sanford.

567
00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:08,510
Okay.

568
00:57:11,350 --> 00:57:13,210
Are you on the right, right?

569
00:57:13,810 --> 00:57:15,370
I am-

570
00:57:15,370 --> 00:57:21,790
Maybe not, we're on, we're on, we're on 2027, 4737.

571
00:57:22,750 --> 00:57:23,850
No, I'm not,

572
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:28,550
you should out up and let somebody else.

573
00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:29,130
Okay.

574
00:57:30,570 --> 00:57:31,330
Commissioner Rivera.

575
00:57:31,850 --> 00:57:35,330
I don't have a problem with this one, either, however question for staff.

576
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:41,150
Considering that they're, I don't have much experience with manufactured housing.

577
00:57:41,950 --> 00:57:46,310
Do they need to re-subtivate this property in order to put a manufacturer home on it,

578
00:57:46,310 --> 00:57:58,670
Since there's an existing residence, he can be a second residence, as long as it's under 20 to 2500 square feet.

579
00:57:58,970 --> 00:58:03,210
Perfect, okay, I was just making sure thank you so much for clarifying.

580
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:07,370
I'd like to second Commissioner Martino's motion to approve.

581
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:11,970
Okay, we have a motion and a second, Commissioner Martino, do you want to add something?

582
00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:18,190
That's the best way to do it.

583
00:58:18,650 --> 00:58:20,010
All right, we have a motion in a second.

584
00:58:20,210 --> 00:58:21,770
I see no further discussion, please vote.

585
00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:31,600
Motion to approve, carries.

586
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,320
Item number 9, 2026, 4738, ZC, Existing, Zoning,

587
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:40,800
large library, residential district,

588
00:58:41,020 --> 00:58:44,200
proposed on a highway, commercial district, location, parcel,

589
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:47,760
located on the east side of LA-1085.

590
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:56,000
5. North of Boudre Accord, Madisonville Ward 1 District 1.64 acres, petitioner, and owner, Ali Carter.

591
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:58,960
Staff,

592
00:59:02,410 --> 00:59:03,770
you want to rock paper scissors for it?

593
00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:17,060
The applicant's request to resound 0.64 acres from L1, large lot residential district to HD1, highway commercial district.

594
00:59:17,260 --> 00:59:22,340
The parcels located on the east side of L8 and 85 north of Boudre Accord in Madisonville.

595
00:59:22,340 --> 00:59:26,180
So the subject property is currently undeveloped.

596
00:59:28,260 --> 00:59:30,280
Okay, Ms. Carter, do you have any comments?

597
00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:33,620
No, you don't have to, it's all good.

598
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,540
Yeah, the purpose of me resulning it is I'd like to open up a coffee shop.

599
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,740
This land's been in our family for over 100 years, it's just got tricked down to me.

600
00:59:47,460 --> 00:59:50,740
Okay, all right, cool, all right, thank you very much.

601
00:59:50,740 --> 00:59:54,300
Yes, anyone else in the audience wish to speak in favor?

602
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:30,200
Anyone opposed? Bring it back to the Commission, Commissioner Roberta. I'm going to hate me about the end of this because I would love nothing more than a drive-through coffee shop on the way to my mother-in-law's house, driving down Boot Lager. That would make me so happy. But at the same time, the location of this is less than half a mile from Brewster Road and it's right next to Pedals. Now, I drove that like a week ago, not even a week ago. And I wanted to stop

603
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,580
It's petals, right?

604
01:00:31,940 --> 01:00:33,840
Four petals, the nursery right next door.

605
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:37,240
I was hoping to stop there on the way to pick my kids up.

606
01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:41,300
And it was like a blinking you miss it moment.

607
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:44,820
It's right in that curve on that highway.

608
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,680
And I selfishly would love nothing more

609
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,500
than to see this beautiful bright young woman

610
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:54,460
open up a drive-through coffee shop on that road somewhere.

611
01:00:54,980 --> 01:00:56,720
But this is not a good spot for it.

612
01:00:56,780 --> 01:00:58,520
And I'm just not in favor of it.

613
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:05,540
I'm so sorry, so I would make a motion to deny for that reason.

614
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Okay, we have a motion on the floor to deny Commissioner Martino.

615
01:01:13,530 --> 01:01:20,870
I go to four pedals very often, I agree it's difficult to get in and out to say the least.

616
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,000
I don't see any reason with the application or what you submitted.

617
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,880
I don't necessarily agree it's unsafe.

618
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,080
I think it's not convenient.

619
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,900
However, the properties and

620
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:43,860
the neighborhoods that I frequent up and down to 85 are expanding.

621
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,120
B. Dakota Creek and some others.

622
01:01:48,220 --> 01:01:54,100
Personally, I would love to operate the nursery that would be next door if this were approved.

623
01:01:54,860 --> 01:02:05,360
That's a side irrelevant, but I think there's potential. I've seen it myself. So you even said you know it would be very good.

624
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,180
If it maybe wasn't such a blink of an eye turn,

625
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:19,320
I'll make a motion to approve just based on I don't see a safety issue.

626
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:28,080
I don't see this not being conformant with other very nearby businesses.

627
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:31,920
So those are my comments, that's my move.

628
01:02:32,140 --> 01:02:40,380
Thank you, I want to just get a clarification from looking at it on the map at everything where pedals is.

629
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:45,540
It looks like are you talking about the southbound turn from sin-any-five as it comes down?

630
01:02:45,540 --> 01:02:52,440
You think that that is because it looks like it's pretty, pretty far down past that.

631
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,860
Even though pedals you might blink, it's a small one, you might blink if you miss it, but I just want to.

632
01:02:57,980 --> 01:03:03,340
I'm sorry, I apologize, the curve is actually to the south of this, I believe, let me double check.

633
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:09,740
Because it looks, if it's right next to pedals, because you gave me the landmark, that's why I went back to look at it.

634
01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:12,280
So if it's, is it right, could you come up here?

635
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,560
Just we want to make sure we understand where the location is appropriately.

636
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:26,320
Yeah, I is budding up to four pedals. It is on the highway. It's the dot dash lines. It's not the double line.

637
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,280
So it's not right in the curve. No, it's not right in the curve.

638
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,460
It's that the curve is like right the curves to the south of it.

639
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:36,600
I don't mean if you want to talk about something in a curve.

640
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,260
Hundreds of people live in Bico Creek, which is right directly in a curve.

641
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,280
So people are dealing with that every day.

642
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:50,720
Believe me, I hate myself, first say in that I would love nothing more than to see this right there.

643
01:03:51,060 --> 01:03:57,500
I just, I know when I drove past pedals to stop there, I couldn't do it.

644
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,840
I had to turn around because you come up that curve and it's right there.

645
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,520
And a drive through coffee shop in this area is going to generate so everybody's going to go.

646
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,320
How deep is the prop big is the property that you have there?

647
01:04:14,980 --> 01:04:18,020
I'm going to get it wider than it is narrower.

648
01:04:18,620 --> 01:04:22,920
It's just like a $1,000 by $900.

649
01:04:23,340 --> 01:04:29,720
It's $191.05 feet on $1085 and it's $147.14 feet.

650
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:31,560
That's all in the survey.

651
01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:34,820
Sorry, that was my side note there.

652
01:04:35,140 --> 01:04:36,300
Commissioner Walker?

653
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:37,940
No, you're good, Chairman.

654
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,120
Yeah, this is my little corridor here.

655
01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:46,980
I live right over in Gus Island, and I have the sweet shop by Beatico supermarket, and

656
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:51,480
we tried to do coffee in that area, and there is a massive need for it.

657
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:58,180
I'm sitting over here torn, disagree with both sides of my fellow commissioners here.

658
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,120
It's just in a weird spot.

659
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:07,920
Yes, you have the pedals right there, but I do think that corridor further south is

660
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,680
towards the 22 and 1085 intersection

661
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,360
is gonna be commercialized here soon.

662
01:05:13,180 --> 01:05:17,660
So I think there's a need in that area

663
01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:21,700
as we all know that traverse that 1085 daily.

664
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:23,640
It's, you have the traffic there.

665
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,540
I wish you all the success in that.

666
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:30,980
I think it will do very well there.

667
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,800
It's a tricky one because it's surrounded by residential here.

668
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,600
But I think it fits.

669
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,860
I have one question for staff, though.

670
01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:45,200
Does HC1 permit drive-through coffee shops?

671
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,940
I thought that would be under a AC2.

672
01:05:50,220 --> 01:05:51,240
Little's verify.

673
01:05:52,260 --> 01:05:53,200
Just one moment.

674
01:05:55,450 --> 01:05:57,130
I like a quote unquote food established.

675
01:06:01,090 --> 01:06:03,430
The coffee shop itself is definitely

676
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:03,870
allowed.

677
01:06:04,110 --> 01:06:08,100
It's the drive-through.

678
01:06:08,260 --> 01:06:10,500
I don't know that you did you, Miss Carter.

679
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,440
Did you specifically say you wanted

680
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,160
to do a drive-through. We're not like putting words in your mouth, right? I mean, you're...

681
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:21,600
I wanted to get it zone drive through. Okay. Because of what if you decide later, you know,

682
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:25,740
if you want to start off just still on, you know, inside stuff, and then later you want to do

683
01:06:25,740 --> 01:06:28,620
a drive-through, then you have to come back and get it reason-long. Yes, ma'am.

684
01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:34,080
If you all look at number six in your your staff report, it speaks to the minimum

685
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,640
standards for a drive-through in HC1, so it's permitted subject to those minimum standards.

686
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,320
Gotcha.

687
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,540
Okay. I see those.

688
01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:51,880
So and just just as a as a side note, you know if it's permitted at HC one with a drive-thru a

689
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:59,200
Dacquery shop would also be able to be put there right not necessarily that would be HC 3 to acquire the

690
01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:09,740
Have the uh because when we try to do that we had the lit rooster up on 1077 to okay and yeah drive through Dacquery

691
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:13,640
So I've got a clear there, you want to make a motion?

692
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,760
I will second the motion to approve.

693
01:07:16,180 --> 01:07:20,220
Okay, we have motion to approve and a second Commissioner Blanchard.

694
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:25,700
Yeah, I just have a question just to try to address the traffic concern.

695
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,420
I don't know the answer to this and maybe some one in the room does, but

696
01:07:29,420 --> 01:07:35,060
what does it look like to get a set of those flashing caution lights near the curve?

697
01:07:35,060 --> 01:07:39,260
right? Would that help at all? And is that doable?

698
01:07:40,660 --> 01:07:42,260
So 1085 is

699
01:07:45,210 --> 01:07:47,470
a state highway.

700
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:52,630
So when we're talking with, what I would also love to see is a center

701
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:57,530
terminally would be to go creep with 900 homes and people come in.

702
01:07:58,430 --> 01:08:03,010
It's, we all know that's where I'm going to go creep is a great example of maybe

703
01:08:03,810 --> 01:08:07,810
this should have been done a little differently with the vision of 900 plus home.

704
01:08:08,730 --> 01:08:12,290
Well, I just have to say, don't be arbitrary and capricious now, sir.

705
01:08:13,090 --> 01:08:21,710
But just as Commissioner Walker mentioned, further south, the commercial is already coming.

706
01:08:22,050 --> 01:08:22,650
It's already there.

707
01:08:23,010 --> 01:08:27,210
It's going to creep east and west, and then essentially more.

708
01:08:27,630 --> 01:08:30,170
So I think it's a great one.

709
01:08:30,990 --> 01:08:32,010
I don't think it's huge.

710
01:08:32,130 --> 01:08:32,570
Good question.

711
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:33,210
Yeah.

712
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:35,850
That's like that.

713
01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:37,610
That's been my experience as well.

714
01:08:37,750 --> 01:08:39,110
Okay, that's the question I had.

715
01:08:39,930 --> 01:08:41,050
Okay, thank you.

716
01:08:41,590 --> 01:08:42,030
Did you want to?

717
01:08:43,450 --> 01:08:45,270
My only concern,

718
01:08:47,090 --> 01:08:50,490
could it be done on a lesser intensity as far as zoning?

719
01:08:51,670 --> 01:08:55,210
It could be, but then she's not going to be able to request

720
01:08:55,210 --> 01:08:56,310
to have a drive through.

721
01:08:57,010 --> 01:09:01,410
The coffee shop itself is allowed under a lesser intense zoning,

722
01:09:01,730 --> 01:09:02,570
commercial zoning,

723
01:09:02,570 --> 01:09:09,230
But it would not allow for drives to and I mean with all the respect these days

724
01:09:09,230 --> 01:09:11,770
Drive through as a coffee shop

725
01:09:15,310 --> 01:09:20,930
The hardest part is that is surrounded by residential and we go how it how we come

726
01:09:20,930 --> 01:09:27,870
Well most of the residential people who live there are related to me have been living there for 15 years

727
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:30,270
I get that 100%

728
01:09:30,270 --> 01:09:31,450
I don't have a problem with that.

729
01:09:31,450 --> 01:09:36,250
I get that 100% and I'm forward, I'm with it.

730
01:09:36,650 --> 01:09:40,550
My only concern is the fact that if we approve

731
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:43,150
how we commercial and you decide to sell it

732
01:09:43,150 --> 01:09:47,710
for some reason, it can be anything else next to a house.

733
01:09:47,890 --> 01:09:48,190
You know what I mean?

734
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:51,110
That's a concern that we have to look at and consider.

735
01:09:51,850 --> 01:09:53,150
I'll just leave that thought there.

736
01:09:53,170 --> 01:09:54,570
I've rolled the dice for less.

737
01:09:55,070 --> 01:09:56,890
Yes, well my parents live right behind it.

738
01:09:56,990 --> 01:09:58,650
I don't think they'd be two in favor of me.

739
01:09:58,650 --> 01:09:59,970
I'm with it.

740
01:10:00,170 --> 01:10:00,890
I understand that.

741
01:10:01,330 --> 01:10:03,270
Okay, so we have a motion and a second.

742
01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:04,770
Commissioner Martina, you wish.

743
01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:07,250
Okay, no further comment?

744
01:10:07,610 --> 01:10:07,990
Please vote.

745
01:10:10,820 --> 01:10:11,120
Yes.

746
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:13,200
We didn't get a second under the now.

747
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:22,730
Motion to approve, Carries.

748
01:10:24,290 --> 01:10:27,610
We had an abstention on that vote to be passed on with seven.

749
01:10:28,250 --> 01:10:28,690
We're good with that.

750
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:29,270
Okay.

751
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,160
Item number 10.

752
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:37,760
Item number 10, 2026, 47, 39ZC, existence of zoning,

753
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:44,460
including our one rule residential district in rule overlay, proposed zoning large light residential district in rule overlay.

754
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:52,920
Location parts will locate in the east side of Highway 10A1 north of Romans Road, covered in the Ward 2 District 2.

755
01:10:54,240 --> 01:11:01,140
Acres are 6.028 acres, petitioner and owner, Eric V and Ann Banksville.

756
01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:02,460
Staff.

757
01:11:04,180 --> 01:11:10,160
This property is 6.028 acres and is currently zone R1 rural residential district.

758
01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:21,200
The request is to be zone L1 large lot residential district, which would allow the petitioner if approved to go through the minor subdivision and to create a maximum of five lots.

759
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:24,160
Is the petition here?

760
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:27,920
Ms. Bankston?

761
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:28,680
Yes, sir.

762
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,380
Okay, do you have anything to add?

763
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:58,260
This is six acres that adjoins our, the rest of our property, and we had built a building on it in 1998, I believe it was, and we are wanting to sell this building, but we do not want to sell five acres because we live on the property as well.

764
01:11:59,460 --> 01:12:02,280
We would just like to sell one acre.

765
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,260
We actually don't have no plans and make a no subdivision.

766
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:11,160
Okay, all right, thank you.

767
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:11,660
Thank you.

768
01:12:12,980 --> 01:12:15,260
Anyone else in the audience who are speaking favor?

769
01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:17,700
Anyone opposed?

770
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,440
Bring it back to the Commissioner Seager.

771
01:12:23,260 --> 01:12:33,250
I'll bear with me with the area, and it makes sense to do that, to enable that, so I'll move to approve.

772
01:12:34,130 --> 01:12:38,150
Motion to approve, Commissioner Seeker, Commissioner Walker.

773
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:44,790
I will second Commissioner Seeker's motion, I see no objections for my end.

774
01:12:45,650 --> 01:12:47,790
Okay, we have a motion and a second.

775
01:12:48,090 --> 01:12:50,790
Any further discussion, please vote.

776
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:50,830
No

777
01:12:58,510 --> 01:13:00,490
motion to approve, carries.

778
01:13:03,130 --> 01:13:15,590
Item number 11, plan review, number 2024, 39, 39, 59, 56 PR purposes, hardware store location, parcel located on the west side of L.A.

779
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:25,850
21 east of Highway 1077 Madisonville, Ward 1 District 4, acres 1.075 acres, petitioner, John Geteris, owner,

780
01:13:25,850 --> 01:13:29,570
Delan the Realty and Development LLC staff.

781
01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:45,340
The original site plan for the post hardware store was approved by the Plenty and Zoning Commission on November 4th, 2024.

782
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:52,300
Following that approval, a building permit was issued in June of 25 for the construction of a hardware store.

783
01:13:52,460 --> 01:13:54,380
This is the ACE hardware on Highway 21.

784
01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,660
It went through the 21 plane corridor through you all.

785
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,560
Currently, the hardware store is occupied and

786
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:07,580
an operating, despite not having been issued a certificate of occupancy or obtaining an occupational license.

787
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,440
As a result, the business is operating in violation of parish regulations and is set for

788
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:17,080
administrative hearing before the Bureau of Administrative Adjudication on August 28th.

789
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,320
Prior to issuance of a certificate of occupancy, the applicant must obtain approval of the as-built

790
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:28,380
drainage plans successfully complete the final building inspections, submit a fire marshal letter of approval,

791
01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:30,540
and pass the final landscape inspection.

792
01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:35,320
Depending code enforcement action is separate from the applicant's request to amend the approved

793
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,820
landscape plan and will not be resolved by approval of this petition.

794
01:14:41,020 --> 01:14:47,780
When the unified development code was amended and adopted in December of 23, we as staff

795
01:14:47,780 --> 01:14:52,160
recommended that we revise the highway 21 plain code or street planning requirements because

796
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,680
because we acknowledge that

797
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:29,600
The required amount of landscaping could be reduced while still basically achieving the same result. The applicant today is requesting to instead of utilizing the originally approved landscape plan by you all back in 2024 to use today's current standards essentially. While the current UDC requires fewer landscape paintings in the former land development code, the revised landscape plan is not satisfied the minimum requirements of the UDC.

798
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,540
The plan is deficient by two class A trees and one class

799
01:15:35,540 --> 01:15:37,900
featuring in the highway 21 plan corridor.

800
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:44,400
They are requesting a WS land development code irrigation was not a requirement under the current UDC it is.

801
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,400
They are now asking to use the current UDC but they are asking for a waiver of the irrigation plan.

802
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:57,840
There are a few statements contained within the applicants written request that are inconsistent with the landscape plan,

803
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,760
including the square footage of Highway 21, the number of proposed trees.

804
01:16:02,740 --> 01:16:06,060
The landscape plan indicated that the required parking lot trees and

805
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:08,520
landscape islands were planted and constructed.

806
01:16:08,860 --> 01:16:16,240
However, the submitted as-built plans that engineering is currently reviewing indicate that one required landscape island was not constructed.

807
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:25,640
The proposed dumpster enclosure and the required seven foot opaque fence and gate as shown on the previously approved plans are not reflected on the revised landscape plans.

808
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,440
to staff has questions as to where the dumpster is located and whether or not it conforms

809
01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:36,360
with the UDC. We also note that the location and death of the existing drainage infrastructure

810
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,800
within the North landscape offer conflicts with the proposed plantings as shown and should

811
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:46,880
be evaluated prior to final approval. The requirements listed within the site, criteria

812
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:52,920
and calculations section of the plan are incorrect and should be revised. Essentially, the plan

813
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:59,980
It does not meet today's current unified development code, but they're asking for those waivers into utilize the planting requirements within them.

814
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,160
Thank you. Is the petitioner here?

815
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,100
You wish to make some comments, sir?

816
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,000
I would highly recommend that it not light up the staff report.

817
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:21,420
So what we're trying to currently do is the submitting that we made, we're not landscape architects, so we submitted that.

818
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:29,860
We brought Professor Abby in here to we redrew a plan and that's what we were trying to get the variance on so maybe you can speak.

819
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:30,500
Okay.

820
01:17:39,530 --> 01:17:40,810
Good evening, everyone.

821
01:17:43,610 --> 01:17:45,430
I want to be really positive.

822
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:47,210
So do we.

823
01:17:47,370 --> 01:17:49,090
And get your spirits up a little bit.

824
01:17:50,170 --> 01:17:59,010
I have been busy trying to beautify the parish, particularly with the new Tafunki Ace Hardwood store.

825
01:17:59,010 --> 01:18:08,010
on LA-21. I didn't quite catch everything this young lady mentioned because I

826
01:18:08,010 --> 01:18:14,310
kind of need better hearing than I think I should have at my age. But there are

827
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:20,870
a couple of little things that I needed to deal with. I was brought in on this

828
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:30,670
project that the landscape plan was had been improved up in the past. When the building

829
01:18:30,670 --> 01:18:36,690
plans went through the parish review process, they reviewed the architecture plans, thumbs

830
01:18:36,690 --> 01:18:42,830
up, where the landscape plan was tucked in there too. And so I'm assuming that I don't

831
01:18:42,830 --> 01:18:49,330
know this for a fact, but I'm assuming that the landscape plan was approved at that time

832
01:18:49,330 --> 01:18:56,310
as well. And as I did hear her mention that the code had changed and that was one of the

833
01:18:56,310 --> 01:19:04,850
big issues that the owners needed me to come in and take my former student's plan and

834
01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:11,650
redo it. And after 40 years of teaching at LSU I get to do that with a lot of my former

835
01:19:11,650 --> 01:19:18,350
students time to time. But it was a very good plan. I would have given him an A on that

836
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:26,370
plan, just like I gave him an A in his classes in LSU, but it needed to be redrawn, and so

837
01:19:26,370 --> 01:19:32,150
redrawing it was a relatively easy thing to do, but there were a few little things that

838
01:19:32,890 --> 01:19:35,850
came up that I wanted to point out.

839
01:19:36,710 --> 01:19:43,950
And some of these things, maybe the way the code is written and the way it's presented on

840
01:19:43,950 --> 01:19:49,990
on the internet. I had a really hard time trying to work with the internet to get all of

841
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:55,830
the code things in it. I don't know. Maybe it was my computer. Maybe it was me. But there

842
01:19:55,830 --> 01:20:04,290
were some problems. And one of the issues was a street planting area. And that's an area

843
01:20:04,290 --> 01:20:14,550
So on my plan, this 39 feet deep and 160 some feet wide, and the purpose of that street

844
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:22,770
planning area you may or may not know the number of class A and class B trees that go

845
01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:29,290
in there are dependent upon the total square footage of that area that's been set aside

846
01:20:29,290 --> 01:20:39,030
for that street tree plant. And that's fine except there's one problem. Just a minor problem.

847
01:20:39,710 --> 01:20:48,190
There's a concrete driveway that goes through it. And that reduces the square footage of that

848
01:20:48,190 --> 01:20:57,590
area which is in our favor of reducing the number of trees that need to go in there. And so I made

849
01:20:57,590 --> 01:21:05,330
the assumption that you all would agree that we can't plant trees on concrete so that square

850
01:21:05,330 --> 01:21:14,830
footage should be dropped out of the calculation. Nowhere in the code notes that I read it said anything

851
01:21:14,830 --> 01:21:23,750
about allowing me to do that. So I'm here to ask your permission to not have included that it's

852
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:26,010
like 1200 square feet of concrete.

853
01:21:26,990 --> 01:21:29,710
And so I subtracted that from the overall area,

854
01:21:30,190 --> 01:21:33,390
did my calculations, put the right required numbers

855
01:21:33,390 --> 01:21:36,330
of trees in there according to my calculations

856
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:38,370
and not your calculation.

857
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:40,130
That's one issue.

858
01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:45,170
The other issue that I have listed,

859
01:21:45,690 --> 01:21:47,370
there's a parking lot screen.

860
01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:50,170
That's just a few feet away

861
01:21:50,170 --> 01:21:59,990
from this street planting area and so I'm asking that those shrubs be qualified as

862
01:21:59,990 --> 01:22:05,130
the shrubs that I have to put in to the street tree planting area which is not

863
01:22:05,130 --> 01:22:10,510
that far away. That would save the owner considerable amount of money if we could

864
01:22:10,510 --> 01:22:11,010
do that.

865
01:22:13,730 --> 01:22:17,630
Sir, you're running out of time? There is an additional period of time

866
01:22:17,630 --> 01:22:21,590
after I have to hear the opposing side as well, though, okay?

867
01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:25,830
Okay, there is a problem with screening the storm water detention.

868
01:22:26,230 --> 01:22:29,270
It doesn't need to be screened because you can't see it from the highway.

869
01:22:29,370 --> 01:22:33,570
I'm going to give you some more time after we hear from the other side, okay?

870
01:22:34,010 --> 01:22:34,890
Very good, thank you.

871
01:22:35,170 --> 01:22:41,870
I have three speaker cards on this, but nobody did be the favor of telling me whether they were four or against.

872
01:22:41,870 --> 01:22:49,350
So, I'm just going to ask Buck Abney, who's that, that's Mr. Abney, okay?

873
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:50,170
He's four.

874
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:55,270
Irene Hall-Marg, does that you, okay?

875
01:22:56,710 --> 01:22:58,930
Bonnie Botner, that's you, okay, perfect.

876
01:22:59,150 --> 01:23:00,430
So, y'all are four, correct?

877
01:23:01,470 --> 01:23:01,690
Okay.

878
01:23:02,770 --> 01:23:07,590
If you wish to speak, I'll call you up at the rebuttal time as well.

879
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:13,590
Ms. Irene, would you like to come up and tell me you're in opposition?

880
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:17,690
Or you have some additional comments?

881
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:19,310
Come on up and make your comments, ma'am.

882
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:20,850
No, I don't have comments for that.

883
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:23,350
Yep, come on up, it's your time.

884
01:23:23,570 --> 01:23:24,450
I have a request.

885
01:23:24,970 --> 01:23:25,190
Okay.

886
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:29,690
I live on 120 Highway 1077.

887
01:23:30,330 --> 01:23:34,670
And my property meets with the A's Hardware.

888
01:23:34,890 --> 01:23:36,410
Okay, you're adjacent, okay.

889
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:46,910
and I wanted to request a fence for a fence to be put in between your property.

890
01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:49,370
Yeah, between my property and your property.

891
01:23:49,770 --> 01:23:51,370
Staff, is that part of the design?

892
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:56,810
So it is, if you're talking about a commercial property, about a residential property, but

893
01:23:56,810 --> 01:24:04,430
this property is part of a larger track that was all re-zoned together to GC1 maybe in 2024.

894
01:24:04,430 --> 01:24:10,130
So when you are talking about a commercial to a commercial, then no, a fence is not required.

895
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:12,960
It's not.

896
01:24:14,860 --> 01:24:17,580
So I want to make sure I'm clear.

897
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,180
So are you saying that Miss Irene's property is not residential?

898
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,760
Yes, it's on GC1 commercial.

899
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,540
She positioned to rezone it with all the surrounding properties a few years back.

900
01:24:28,540 --> 01:24:39,060
Yeah, but they were, they were gonna do some building right next door to me and at that time I requested the fence.

901
01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:42,640
If you remember, they said they would put up a fence.

902
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,060
Yeah, I was, I was at that meeting.

903
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,000
So I remember when they got approved, yeah.

904
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,260
Miss Irene came at that time and requested a fence be constructed.

905
01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:58,280
That development also abouted her property and you all granted that to her, which is why she's back before you today.

906
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:59,780
because this property abuts hers.

907
01:25:00,440 --> 01:25:01,180
Yeah, I remember that.

908
01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:03,820
So even though it was two years ago, wow, two years ago.

909
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:09,980
So yes, ma'am, so is the fence not part of the requirement?

910
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:11,300
No, sir, it's not.

911
01:25:11,900 --> 01:25:13,360
OK, so I'm confused.

912
01:25:13,860 --> 01:25:16,720
And it wasn't at the time either at 21 at the point.

913
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,700
Was it just an agreement that we put in place

914
01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:21,060
that they agreed to put it offensive,

915
01:25:21,180 --> 01:25:22,540
but we didn't make it as a requirement

916
01:25:22,540 --> 01:25:23,520
of the final approval?

917
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,240
You all reserved the rights to add reasonable stipulations

918
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,060
to these reviews.

919
01:25:27,060 --> 01:25:27,380
Thanks.

920
01:25:27,740 --> 01:25:28,740
Thank you, ma'am.

921
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,460
This is your rebuttal time.

922
01:25:35,820 --> 01:25:39,300
Do you have any more comments to make or yes?

923
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:45,180
No, my name's Bonnie Boatner, and I'm the owner of the beautiful new Chifante's house.

924
01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:46,740
It is beautiful, I pass it all the time.

925
01:25:47,060 --> 01:25:49,460
Our customers love having us there.

926
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:59,900
We want our property to look nice, but we're trying to be realistic about the amount of

927
01:25:59,900 --> 01:26:03,800
the vegetation that we are being asked to plant.

928
01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:08,040
I'm not a horticulturist, I refer to Professor Abbey on that.

929
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:16,840
The front of the property obviously is paramount to the appearance along Highway 21.

930
01:26:17,480 --> 01:26:28,260
I have one issue in the west side of the property, which I believe is a but to the previous speaker's property.

931
01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:47,360
that property is heavily forested, densely forested, and the plan is asking me to plant an additional 10, 12 trees and shrubs in an area that's already heavily forested.

932
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:56,540
And it's opposite the highway behind my building, not in sight, of passers-by.

933
01:26:57,660 --> 01:27:06,320
So I would ask that we get some relief in what we're being asked to add to the existing vegetation.

934
01:27:07,020 --> 01:27:11,000
Yeah, I mean, I see the vegetation just on the satellite map behind you.

935
01:27:11,180 --> 01:27:15,540
That's, that's to the, to the, to the, to the west that hang over.

936
01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:18,840
And Ms. Irene's property, is she to the north of you?

937
01:27:20,780 --> 01:27:21,720
That's her property.

938
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:27,880
No, because she's on 1077, so she is to the west of you as well.

939
01:27:27,980 --> 01:27:28,620
She's behind you.

940
01:27:28,820 --> 01:27:28,960
Yes.

941
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:29,680
Okay.

942
01:27:32,650 --> 01:27:37,550
But we did, there was an agreement that you were going to put a fence

943
01:27:37,550 --> 01:27:40,530
between the properties, because I remember the meaning.

944
01:27:40,610 --> 01:27:41,250
I remember the fence.

945
01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:41,610
Yeah.

946
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:46,970
This was a previous development just south of the east of

947
01:27:46,970 --> 01:27:52,650
Yeah, that and that development has since not yeah, he's not doing it.

948
01:27:52,710 --> 01:28:00,990
Yeah, so he kind of wraps around understand her property, so it's all right.

949
01:28:00,990 --> 01:28:02,510
I don't know where we would put offense.

950
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:04,330
Gotcha.

951
01:28:04,610 --> 01:28:06,450
All right, thank you very much.

952
01:28:06,510 --> 01:28:06,650
Okay.

953
01:28:06,930 --> 01:28:09,250
Do you have any other comments about the landscaping, sir?

954
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:11,170
You have a couple of seconds left.

955
01:28:20,580 --> 01:28:23,240
Really happy to be able to help beautify the parish.

956
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:30,480
I wanted to mention the stormwater detention maybe a little bit more.

957
01:28:31,620 --> 01:28:40,820
That's in front of the building, and it's just outside of the street planting area, but

958
01:28:40,820 --> 01:28:41,460
it's sunken.

959
01:28:42,180 --> 01:28:48,240
And when they did the grading plan, it appears that they mounted it up in front of it, which

960
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,820
is why I guess you can't see it from the street.

961
01:28:50,820 --> 01:29:04,520
And so, I've kind of broken that rule by not putting in a screen to screen something that's already a screen that's a detention basin that sores water just after the storm.

962
01:29:07,450 --> 01:29:09,370
So, thank you very much for everything you do.

963
01:29:09,670 --> 01:29:10,470
Thank you very much.

964
01:29:11,050 --> 01:29:14,930
Okay, time for public comment. Did you have any additional comments, ma'am?

965
01:29:15,450 --> 01:29:17,270
We kind of heard you about the fence and everything.

966
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:18,390
Okay.

967
01:29:20,460 --> 01:29:24,400
Thank you very much. All right. We'll bring it back to the Commission, Commissioner Martino.

968
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:27,220
I

969
01:29:29,620 --> 01:29:35,980
agree with the wooded area that satisfies what the UDC's

970
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:42,640
purpose for this type of scenario

971
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:53,560
is to shield from the roadway. I think that in itself makes sense. I need to do

972
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:54,980
We need to make the most...

973
01:30:00,050 --> 01:30:29,790
The motion separately is just all encompassing together. To the revised landscape plan, if you look at the top of sheet three, it says commission should be subject to adding the following landscape to the landscape plan. It would just be subject to those things. However, if you're making a motion for them to essentially be able to plant trees without any kind of irrigation or the host bed that they propose.

974
01:30:29,790 --> 01:30:32,790
That would need to be a separate waiver, it's a separate request.

975
01:30:35,070 --> 01:30:41,430
So that's my next point, actually, is with the irrigation.

976
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:49,570
That has been brought in for a specific reason, and it's because when the landscaping requirements are put in place,

977
01:30:50,910 --> 01:30:58,170
and there's no, there was no guarantee for plantings to survive, where in the middle of the drought now,

978
01:30:58,890 --> 01:31:08,890
I think it's an important component, so I'd like to hear more comments, but I'm not comfortable

979
01:31:08,890 --> 01:31:16,330
making a motion for all of it based on the irrigation itself, because I think it defeats the

980
01:31:16,330 --> 01:31:25,070
purpose in our climate and for new plantings, especially new plantings in the middle of summer,

981
01:31:25,530 --> 01:31:27,450
not having proper irrigation.

982
01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:30,910
So I'm going to yield my time for other discussion.

983
01:31:31,410 --> 01:31:33,150
I'm not making a motion at this time.

984
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:36,550
Thank you, Commissioner Martino, Commissioner Robert.

985
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:44,390
Okay, so I probably had steam coming out of my ears when I was first reading this case.

986
01:31:44,810 --> 01:31:51,010
I have families who I've worked with across this parish to build homes who have lost money because they did not obtain.

987
01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:54,970
They could not obtain a certificate of occupancy for one reason or another.

988
01:31:54,970 --> 01:32:02,550
and the fact that a business in this parish had a flagrant disregard for the rules and had a

989
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:08,230
grant opening without obtaining a certificate of occupancy rubs me completely the wrong way.

990
01:32:08,430 --> 01:32:13,010
I'm just going to say that right at the gate. However, the fact that this is the only person who

991
01:32:13,010 --> 01:32:19,090
showed up for this tells me it might be a little bit of a different story here. So looking at the

992
01:32:19,090 --> 01:32:25,450
landscaping planning requirements right now under the old UDC for class A trees you guys are under

993
01:32:25,450 --> 01:32:33,930
by 12 on the new UDC you're under by 2 class B trees your short 17 new UDC you're short by 1

994
01:32:34,610 --> 01:32:43,350
you are over by shrubs on 34 on the old code and 12 on the new code so you guys got shrubs in spades

995
01:32:44,430 --> 01:32:51,130
I am not okay with the irrigation plan, not being presented.

996
01:32:51,570 --> 01:33:00,850
I agree with Commissioner Martino, I don't feel comfortable voting on this as a whole when there are so many issues within this.

997
01:33:01,330 --> 01:33:08,250
I did request our attorney to look into something for me, so I'm trying to give her a little bit of time to check.

998
01:33:09,050 --> 01:33:15,710
I would be willing to let go the missing two class A trees and the one class

999
01:33:15,710 --> 01:33:20,990
feature a if you guys would commit to putting up a fence on your Davis

1000
01:33:20,990 --> 01:33:26,850
property to protect your neighbor's property and but I'm waiting for Diana if

1001
01:33:26,850 --> 01:33:30,970
you're asking if you can conditionally improve some of the waivers not all of

1002
01:33:30,970 --> 01:33:36,890
them then you can. I am but I am requesting the Diana check to see if we can

1003
01:33:36,890 --> 01:33:39,590
We can make the fence a condition of that approval.

1004
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,160
We can make the fence a condition of the approval.

1005
01:33:51,660 --> 01:33:54,320
Okay, so Diana helped me make these motions.

1006
01:33:58,060 --> 01:34:06,280
They're going to have to amend it to add that in because it's not in the petition.

1007
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,560
So they're going to have to agree to it before.

1008
01:34:11,260 --> 01:34:13,740
Can the petitioner, ma'am, can you come up and speak?

1009
01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:17,540
Mr. Chairman, let's confirm here.

1010
01:34:17,540 --> 01:34:21,560
this is not a zoning change. This is a plan. Correct. You can make a motion.

1011
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:31,280
Yeah, we do. Would you commit if we were willing to let the landscape standards go and let you guys keep what you currently have?

1012
01:34:31,500 --> 01:34:31,840
Mm-hm.

1013
01:34:31,860 --> 01:34:33,760
Not have to plan another plus a tree.

1014
01:34:34,220 --> 01:34:34,520
Mm-hm.

1015
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:35,080
Let's be agree.

1016
01:34:35,480 --> 01:34:41,520
If you'll put a fence up for your neighbor and you do away with your irrigation requirement.

1017
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:56,240
According to Professor Abbey, he said all of that new vegetation that's planted trees only requires irrigation for the first six months after that it's well rooted and mother nature can take its course.

1018
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,500
I would defer to staff on this.

1019
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:05,220
I just want to clarify one thing as far as I understand there's been no plantings on the site.

1020
01:35:05,220 --> 01:35:12,880
So when you say, oh, because it says provided eight class A trees, 14 class B trees and 46 on the plan.

1021
01:35:13,220 --> 01:35:19,680
Yeah, right. So nothing has been we've been waiting for our request for variances before we go in before you actually plan anything.

1022
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:20,440
Yeah. Okay.

1023
01:35:21,500 --> 01:35:27,040
Because obviously if they have to put it right now to plant all of this stuff, that's sure, that's sure we'd like to wait.

1024
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:33,900
The one comment staff had in relation to the hose bibs is we can't necessarily see where the hose bibs are being discharged

1025
01:35:33,900 --> 01:35:41,560
large to water the plants on the irrigation plan and also if they're going to plant, we request that it be between October and December and not right.

1026
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:47,280
I mean, you're a hardware store, you're going to provide plants at some point during the year for people to purchase.

1027
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,880
You have to have, you have a hose bib outside, so we have hose bibs all around the bill.

1028
01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:54,500
You have any hoses perhaps that you could connect to those?

1029
01:35:55,260 --> 01:35:58,620
I've really got, I've got nice 125 foot, you know.

1030
01:35:58,620 --> 01:36:05,040
So Erin, can you shed some light, there was no irrigation required under old UDC, correct?

1031
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:05,420
Correct.

1032
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:11,100
Which required more plants and no irrigation now we have fewer plants and.

1033
01:36:11,660 --> 01:36:21,500
There was typically a role of thumb by staff to say within five to ten years about half of the required trees on 21 would die because there was no irrigation.

1034
01:36:21,740 --> 01:36:25,920
Correct, but you guys are hard, we're sore and you have to water plants anyway, right?

1035
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:26,640
Let me know that.

1036
01:36:29,420 --> 01:36:36,160
Okay, I would be well in the lego of the irrigation plan,

1037
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:38,180
simply because of the nature of the business.

1038
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,440
So would you commit to putting a fence up?

1039
01:36:44,660 --> 01:36:47,980
Just on that little bit of stretch, like the tape.

1040
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,240
Wherever it's abouting a residential property.

1041
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,040
It's not residential, is GC1?

1042
01:36:52,180 --> 01:36:56,840
No, it is zone GC1, but the use right now is residential.

1043
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:58,960
She lives there, correct?

1044
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:06,540
Well, she was way over on 1077, which is a far cry from where my property abuts hers.

1045
01:37:08,300 --> 01:37:10,560
Is it the same, can staff confirm?

1046
01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:15,700
Is it the same property that was re-zoned in 24 per her request?

1047
01:37:16,740 --> 01:37:21,720
Is the parcel itself that the fence is requested on?

1048
01:37:21,980 --> 01:37:26,720
Because this is not something I had an opportunity to look up the forehand, is that a residential

1049
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,760
use on that parcel at the moment.

1050
01:37:29,060 --> 01:37:30,280
Yes, it's in a regular shape.

1051
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:34,820
If you look at your vicinity map, you can see a directly about the rear property line of the subject parcel.

1052
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,860
Then, yes, that would be the fence that I would request.

1053
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:43,220
In lieu of you having plant more trees and providing irrigation plan, that would be-

1054
01:37:43,220 --> 01:37:45,260
I just have to put a tangling fence across there.

1055
01:37:45,460 --> 01:37:46,660
No, ma'am, a privacy fence.

1056
01:37:47,260 --> 01:37:48,040
A privacy fence?

1057
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:49,240
Yes, ma'am.

1058
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:50,960
Okay, how tall does it have to be?

1059
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:51,760
Eight foot.

1060
01:37:52,500 --> 01:37:54,000
Eight foot, wooden privacy fence.

1061
01:37:54,980 --> 01:37:58,680
OPEC. It could be anything OPEC, correct? Erin?

1062
01:37:59,040 --> 01:37:59,220
Yes.

1063
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:00,520
It doesn't have to be what?

1064
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:01,880
So you could like bind all the time.

1065
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,720
You could put the chain link up with the slats in it and everything just has to be

1066
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:05,900
you know what?

1067
01:38:05,900 --> 01:38:07,660
I would imagine the materials you probably would throw into it.

1068
01:38:07,660 --> 01:38:12,200
But no irrigation and no trees, additional trees back at this point.

1069
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:12,860
It was like a deal.

1070
01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:16,220
If you put a fence up to clear your resume.

1071
01:38:16,220 --> 01:38:20,600
You can't just clarify your motion because she's saying no trees, but no trees have been

1072
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:21,000
planted.

1073
01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:23,980
So you're saying, I'm saying, you're approving the planting plan out there.

1074
01:38:23,980 --> 01:38:30,060
I'm approving the plan that has eight class A trees, 14 class B trees and 46 shrubs.

1075
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:38,160
I'm okay with a ton of shrubs going on that property if it means letting go of a couple of the trees simply because it is so heavily wooded.

1076
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:53,880
But I have family who lives on property that was rezoned in comprehensive zoning in 2009 on Highway 22, and my in laws their property was rezoned to a commercial property and somebody tried to put a drive through chicken restaurant.

1077
01:38:53,880 --> 01:39:02,220
right next to their house. I cannot imagine what that would be like to have that, right? And look,

1078
01:39:02,540 --> 01:39:09,260
you guys, I'm sure are... Well, that entire section of 21 is now commercial. Correct. But your

1079
01:39:09,260 --> 01:39:15,100
neighbor behind you was asking for a fence. And I feel like if you are here requesting us to make

1080
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:18,780
concessions, this is a minor concession that you can make for materials that you probably

1081
01:39:18,780 --> 01:39:21,340
That would more than likely carry a hardware, I would imagine, for the fence.

1082
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:21,820
Correct.

1083
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:28,760
So that would be, the bargain I would request, and that would be what I would be willing to see happen.

1084
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:35,980
But then we talked about the request or the requirement for such additional trees and

1085
01:39:35,980 --> 01:39:39,380
shrubs in this same area that you're asking me to put up a fence.

1086
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:41,060
No, the-

1087
01:39:42,020 --> 01:39:44,500
I mean, it's on my hand because it was required.

1088
01:39:44,500 --> 01:40:03,360
But now we've already determined that area is heavily forested with very large mature trees and now I'm going to put up a fence and then the landscape plan I believe calls for trees and shrubs to go back in that same area.

1089
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:15,940
If I may clarify, just in case you're confusing or mixing the comment, my comment of, it is, would it, I agree, was pertaining to where the detention pond was?

1090
01:40:16,420 --> 01:40:18,760
No, the detention pond in the front.

1091
01:40:18,980 --> 01:40:19,140
Correct.

1092
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:20,700
And that's not heavily rooted.

1093
01:40:20,820 --> 01:40:21,320
I don't know if you were.

1094
01:40:21,620 --> 01:40:22,300
I just want to clarify.

1095
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:27,300
I was agreeing with Professor Abby.

1096
01:40:27,620 --> 01:40:27,720
Yes.

1097
01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:31,180
That area would not need more trees.

1098
01:40:31,180 --> 01:40:37,700
I was not talking about where the fence would potentially be.

1099
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,100
Because that's where it's the heavily wooded.

1100
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:49,620
That maybe the case, I'm speaking out of turn a little, but.

1101
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:53,000
I mean, that's just, you know, it's undeveloped.

1102
01:40:53,060 --> 01:40:54,020
I would refer.

1103
01:40:54,740 --> 01:40:56,520
Aaron, can you show some light on this, please?

1104
01:40:57,700 --> 01:41:04,270
It appears that all commercial properties are required to come into compliance with commercial

1105
01:41:04,270 --> 01:41:10,670
regulations which require landscape buffers to sort of essentially grassed areas with

1106
01:41:10,670 --> 01:41:11,930
class A and class B trees.

1107
01:41:12,910 --> 01:41:18,710
I know you say the property is wooded, but that's, it appears most of the trees in a tree

1108
01:41:18,710 --> 01:41:24,390
survey would confirm, but that most of the trees, if not all of the trees, are on the adjacent

1109
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:26,230
residential property.

1110
01:41:26,230 --> 01:41:32,910
So you in order to develop the property would have to bring the site to compliance and effectively

1111
01:41:33,550 --> 01:41:40,670
Plant your landscape plan as proposed under the current UDC. So we can be very clear here that

1112
01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:42,770
Number one, I think

1113
01:41:42,770 --> 01:41:46,530
Commissioner Robare is doing a doing a good service to you

1114
01:41:47,190 --> 01:41:48,790
Because at the end of the day

1115
01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:53,650
We can say we're going to now you're a request and make you

1116
01:41:53,650 --> 01:41:57,330
and force you kind of to do the higher standard trees.

1117
01:41:58,050 --> 01:42:01,990
We can also say, put the fence up and make it a mandatory thing.

1118
01:42:03,170 --> 01:42:07,190
I think Commissioner Robert is giving you the option to do either or,

1119
01:42:07,670 --> 01:42:12,750
but we can, this commission reserves the right and the way is written, to do both.

1120
01:42:13,390 --> 01:42:18,270
And we're trying to cut this in slack, so I think women's Robert would be a good thing.

1121
01:42:18,490 --> 01:42:18,630
Thank you.

1122
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:26,410
Are you done?

1123
01:42:27,130 --> 01:42:28,010
Do we have a measure?

1124
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:35,210
Are you willing to, are you willing to, the question was, are you willing to make that

1125
01:42:35,210 --> 01:42:35,510
concise?

1126
01:42:35,970 --> 01:42:37,090
What's the offense up?

1127
01:42:37,290 --> 01:42:37,710
Yes, ma'am.

1128
01:42:37,730 --> 01:42:38,070
Of course.

1129
01:42:38,930 --> 01:42:39,130
Okay.

1130
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:43,180
Make a motion?

1131
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:44,480
Yes.

1132
01:42:44,940 --> 01:42:47,020
So, I'm going to need help with this.

1133
01:42:49,970 --> 01:42:51,370
Diana, how will I make this motion?

1134
01:42:51,910 --> 01:42:53,850
I think it's best for staff to help these things.

1135
01:42:53,850 --> 01:42:55,010
Staff, can you?

1136
01:42:55,190 --> 01:42:56,330
I said one more question.

1137
01:42:56,570 --> 01:43:00,650
How far does the, from the property line, does the fence need to be?

1138
01:43:00,650 --> 01:43:10,230
We'll let staff coach you on that so that, I mean they have all the regulations on buffers and all of that, we'll let them make that determination.

1139
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:27,570
So we just need to make a motion, your motion to approve the waivers as written contingent upon, but you're adding a waiver to privacy fence has to be installed along the rear property line.

1140
01:43:27,570 --> 01:43:27,870
Correct.

1141
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:31,290
Okay, so craft the motion in that regard.

1142
01:43:31,650 --> 01:43:37,870
I make a motion to approve the request with waivers and

1143
01:43:37,870 --> 01:43:47,370
to add an additional requirement to construct an eight foot privacy fence on the rear boundary line of the property.

1144
01:43:48,090 --> 01:43:52,450
Okay, according to the unified development code.

1145
01:43:52,450 --> 01:44:00,730
Okay. Motion to approve with waivers by Commissioner Robert with an addendum, Commissioner Seeger.

1146
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:05,700
Some questions.

1147
01:44:10,420 --> 01:44:18,440
I think it was a very pertinent question that the petitioner asked how far away from the property line does the fence have to be?

1148
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,460
Can y'all give us some clarification on that?

1149
01:44:20,460 --> 01:44:24,520
The fence should be set in to be on the inside of the buffer.

1150
01:44:24,740 --> 01:44:29,520
So the buffer should be on the property line, and the fence should be 10 foot inside

1151
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:30,460
of the property line.

1152
01:44:33,970 --> 01:44:37,830
It should be development fence buffer.

1153
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,860
So 10 feet from the Western property line.

1154
01:44:43,580 --> 01:44:47,740
Ten feet from the line, and that's the no-cut buffer.

1155
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:49,740
That's just a lighted knot.

1156
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,980
Well, the property is clear cut, so it's-

1157
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,920
I could read without a magnifying glass. What is the distance between the building and the property line?

1158
01:45:10,970 --> 01:45:14,950
I didn't see that already, surveys or anything, maybe I just missed it.

1159
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:31,980
From the building where you're going to building to the fence line, to the property line. How far is it?

1160
01:45:38,990 --> 01:45:40,010
Okay, I didn't realize.

1161
01:45:41,610 --> 01:45:45,570
Can you all come up to the right, we can't hear you, please, I appreciate it.

1162
01:45:45,790 --> 01:45:50,890
Property line to the north side, there's a fence on the property line.

1163
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:56,070
And I think you said, somebody said on the property line, did I miss here that?

1164
01:45:57,250 --> 01:45:57,410
No.

1165
01:45:59,370 --> 01:45:59,810
I

1166
01:46:02,300 --> 01:46:07,500
said on that property, that particular property line, so as to, when I made the motion,

1167
01:46:07,700 --> 01:46:11,840
so as to designate which boundary line of the property, so not the north.

1168
01:46:12,340 --> 01:46:16,340
I'm sorry, not the Northern Property Line, not the Southern Property Line, but the Western.

1169
01:46:16,460 --> 01:46:23,740
I just referenced it in that regard so that it was specific to the amendment that so

1170
01:46:23,740 --> 01:46:26,760
that you guys don't have to put a fence around three borders of the property.

1171
01:46:26,860 --> 01:46:28,060
No, no, no, that's not what I meant.

1172
01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:35,320
What I was trying to understand was will the Prophecy Fence go on the property line?

1173
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:37,100
On the line itself, Mr.

1174
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:40,300
on the adjacent, where she's talking about where they butt up.

1175
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:41,240
No, sir.

1176
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:42,340
I'm sorry?

1177
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:42,980
No, sir.

1178
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:48,340
So you're saying we got to come 10 feet from that property line to put it because the parking

1179
01:46:48,340 --> 01:46:50,340
lot goes to the 10 foot setback.

1180
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,820
So you would want it right on the, against the parking lot?

1181
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:55,820
I guess so, yes.

1182
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:57,780
That's where I was confused.

1183
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,500
So that's how the code is written today, the unified development code.

1184
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,940
The previous land development code remained silent and the problem that we're having

1185
01:47:04,940 --> 01:47:09,860
is people are putting fences on property lines, but then using that section of the buffer as a lay down yard.

1186
01:47:10,060 --> 01:47:11,720
So that's the reason the UDC was amended.

1187
01:47:12,220 --> 01:47:16,820
I think in this case, a special concession could be made, especially since the budding property owner

1188
01:47:16,820 --> 01:47:17,780
only wants a fence.

1189
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,340
I don't want an additional buffer.

1190
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:19,800
That's right.

1191
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,940
So I think in this case, it might be appropriate to consider the fence on the property line.

1192
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,000
Directly on the property line.

1193
01:47:25,380 --> 01:47:25,560
Okay.

1194
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:26,260
Do I need to?

1195
01:47:26,380 --> 01:47:28,380
No, I'm glad you asked.

1196
01:47:28,420 --> 01:47:28,740
I'm glad you asked.

1197
01:47:28,740 --> 01:47:29,320
Good for the clarification.

1198
01:47:29,660 --> 01:47:30,480
Thank you.

1199
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,280
Eric, do I need to amend my request at all?

1200
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,460
Or is that something you guys can handle administratively?

1201
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:37,640
We can handle that administratively.

1202
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:37,980
I figure.

1203
01:47:38,340 --> 01:47:38,560
Okay.

1204
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:39,640
Good question, Tom.

1205
01:47:40,020 --> 01:47:41,200
I just do want to be clear.

1206
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:47,100
So the motion that I made was for the plan that you submitted.

1207
01:47:47,540 --> 01:47:53,520
It's you still have to provide what is on the plan that you guys submitted.

1208
01:47:53,700 --> 01:47:56,740
I'm just not asking you guys to go above and be on and do even more.

1209
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:02,720
So like right now you have, it says provided eight class A, 14 class B, 46 shrubs.

1210
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:23,020
So, rather than make you do another 17 class B under the old code, one class B under the new, 12 class A under the old code, two more class A's under the new,

1211
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:34,980
We're like letting go of the extra that the variance, so to speak, would be for so that the plan that you guys currently have for Professor Abby flies, we're good with that.

1212
01:48:35,780 --> 01:48:41,860
So that I just want to make sure that this means you still have to plan, we're just, okay, I just want to make sure.

1213
01:48:41,860 --> 01:48:43,960
I'm just glaring for a quick clarifying on that.

1214
01:48:44,460 --> 01:48:46,280
Can Mr. Seager finish this time?

1215
01:48:46,620 --> 01:48:47,080
Yes, sorry.

1216
01:48:47,480 --> 01:48:48,860
Mr. Seager, sorry.

1217
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:50,560
Thank you.

1218
01:48:53,540 --> 01:49:00,280
So, to staff, we now have a fence up, and we agree that it's on the property line.

1219
01:49:01,420 --> 01:49:10,200
The shrubbery that is supposed to be on that side of the building, are we eliminating that shrubbery?

1220
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:15,500
Yes, sir, the new UDC does not require shrubbery for commercial, about in commercial.

1221
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:18,720
And there's a fence there anyhow, so the shrubbery.

1222
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:24,000
Do you all understand that the fences all on that side, there's no shrubbery included.

1223
01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:27,900
You asked that question when you came up to the podium and it was never answered.

1224
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,620
On the side of the fence, no.

1225
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,620
That was your question earlier.

1226
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:48,160
There wasn't room for the fence and the shrubbery, so I wanted to clarify that.

1227
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:53,880
So now the shrubbery, because it's contingent upon you building a fence,

1228
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,100
the landscaping doesn't have to be done on that side.

1229
01:49:58,700 --> 01:50:00,960
I wanted to make sure that you had that question answered.

1230
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:02,740
Kagan.

1231
01:50:04,140 --> 01:50:04,700
Kagan.

1232
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:08,200
Kagan.

1233
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:12,360
Kagan.

1234
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:12,640
Kagan.

1235
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:12,680
Kagan.

1236
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:14,200
Kagan.

1237
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:14,580
Kagan.

1238
01:50:14,580 --> 01:50:14,620
Kagan.

1239
01:50:14,620 --> 01:50:15,060
Kagan.

1240
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:20,120
The

1241
01:50:25,500 --> 01:50:33,940
plan as your landscape architect Druitt meets code subject to the missing trees in the street buffer.

1242
01:50:37,090 --> 01:50:44,590
But contingent upon you putting up a privacy fence, some of the landscaping requirements

1243
01:50:44,590 --> 01:50:47,410
are not, are being dropped, the shrubbery.

1244
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:54,750
It's still required for the Class A and Class B trees and your landscaping

1245
01:50:54,750 --> 01:50:59,110
to satisfy this where all we have to say is we're approving the plan that they've

1246
01:50:59,110 --> 01:51:02,310
submitted, if they put the fence up.

1247
01:51:02,530 --> 01:51:04,390
So, contingent upon the fence?

1248
01:51:04,730 --> 01:51:08,210
Yeah, the fence does not change any of the, any of the plan that they've already

1249
01:51:08,210 --> 01:51:08,690
submitted.

1250
01:51:10,770 --> 01:51:15,510
I think it does. I think the shrubs are on the plan that they submitted, and those

1251
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:18,870
were not be, they do not have to be included.

1252
01:51:22,130 --> 01:51:22,570
Could

1253
01:51:28,970 --> 01:51:33,250
you just give it to the staff, please? We get nervous when people come back here.

1254
01:51:48,190 --> 01:51:54,010
So what about the hoves bibs and the sulker hoses, is that they're all around the building.

1255
01:51:54,250 --> 01:51:59,070
They don't need any additional, they've already got them at all.

1256
01:51:59,290 --> 01:52:02,230
Yeah, we're waving the in-ground inter-currigation.

1257
01:52:02,370 --> 01:52:02,530
Right.

1258
01:52:02,530 --> 01:52:04,710
Yes, yeah, I understand that.

1259
01:52:10,620 --> 01:52:11,740
Can you give us a speech?

1260
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:15,760
The speech is from the requirement to get to just gotten confused.

1261
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:16,680
No, you're good.

1262
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,480
You're good.

1263
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,780
I tried to condense things in the simple terms, if you can.

1264
01:52:24,060 --> 01:52:25,640
Yeah, just bring it.

1265
01:52:26,220 --> 01:52:28,320
Which case I will second the motion.

1266
01:52:37,130 --> 01:52:39,990
Mr. Chairman, I have a comment.

1267
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:43,790
It's not going to change any motion or motion.

1268
01:52:44,750 --> 01:52:45,390
You're good.

1269
01:52:45,850 --> 01:52:45,990
Okay.

1270
01:52:46,250 --> 01:52:46,950
You might have a motion.

1271
01:52:47,570 --> 01:52:48,030
You ready?

1272
01:52:48,230 --> 01:52:48,290
What?

1273
01:52:48,930 --> 01:52:49,610
This roll.

1274
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:58,760
So, we have a motion in a second.

1275
01:53:00,260 --> 01:53:01,220
Commissioner Blanchard.

1276
01:53:01,700 --> 01:53:03,900
Yeah, look, I just have one caveat here.

1277
01:53:04,020 --> 01:53:09,160
And I think just want to also highlight the fact that we are cutting the deal here.

1278
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:16,120
right you guys at a higher standard that you guys came in on are asking to be swept into the lower

1279
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:21,760
standard and then asking for a waiver on the lower standard so we all understand that and we're

1280
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:26,200
willing to play ball a bit but we're asking for the fence you guys seem to be an agreement to that

1281
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:32,720
I want to just point out not to just direct offense but maintain it in good repair right we don't

1282
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:37,240
want any issues with it I know it's it's going to be sight seen on your on your store anyway you

1283
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:41,760
You're going to want it to look good, but please, please, don't make that an issue for us as well.

1284
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:51,140
So if we can slightly adjust the wording on the motion to say that it's directly maintaining the repair, I'll be okay.

1285
01:53:51,420 --> 01:53:52,900
That's part of the code already, isn't it?

1286
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:53,200
Yeah.

1287
01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:54,680
Okay, we don't need to add it.

1288
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:55,800
No, just don't thank it.

1289
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:58,720
Okay, we have a motion, a second, Mr. Martinez.

1290
01:53:59,340 --> 01:54:05,320
My last comment, I promise, I have to make a comment with the irrigation.

1291
01:54:06,440 --> 01:54:10,080
even with planting in October, November, December.

1292
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,340
So in South Louisiana, November is our driest month of the year.

1293
01:54:14,440 --> 01:54:19,380
Planting in an area surrounded by concrete gravel,

1294
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:26,660
commercial areas in particular, I just want that to be known

1295
01:54:26,660 --> 01:54:30,460
that it is very stressful on new plantings.

1296
01:54:31,220 --> 01:54:49,860
So that being said, when we make some of these decisions and we wave going forward on the new UDC not requiring irrigation, I do want to make sure we're understanding there are areas that we see and we all pass.

1297
01:54:49,860 --> 01:54:50,980
That's a great clarification.

1298
01:54:51,540 --> 01:54:57,940
Staff, isn't there language in the UDC that requires that trees that die are replaced?

1299
01:54:58,700 --> 01:54:59,460
Yes, sir.

1300
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:01,840
Ben, I'm sorry, repeat.

1301
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:07,160
So, it's written in code in the UDC that trees that are planted as part of the requirement

1302
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,900
if they die, they have to be replaced.

1303
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:15,200
So, even though they could be planting in a dry month, they are obligated basically

1304
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:19,280
to irrigate it, and if it dies, they have to replace it anyway.

1305
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,140
Okay, so it's the hooves them to make sure it survives.

1306
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:24,720
That's it.

1307
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:25,940
Perfect one.

1308
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,360
We have a motion and a second.

1309
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:32,400
With an addendum, please vote.

1310
01:55:43,060 --> 01:55:46,040
Motion to approve with a addendum carries.

1311
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,060
So I have a motion to adjourn.

1312
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:51,160
Motion to adjourn.