1 00:04:04,750 --> 00:04:15,190 531 p.m. I am calling the August 11, 2026, Modesto City Council meeting to order and ask the city clerk to call the roll. Councilmember Bavaro, 2 00:04:18,140 --> 00:04:36,260 Vice Mayor Williams, here. Councilmember Wright, here. Councilmember Scuttea, here. Councilmember Averis, here. Councilmember Ricky and Mayor Zollen. Here. Well, everyone, please rise for the pledge of allegiance followed by the invocation from Pastor Lucia Beasley Day, victory in praise church, Modesto. 3 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:36,380 No. 4 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:41,390 I pledge allegiance. 5 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:58,660 All right. 6 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:03,460 Apparently, Pastor Day is not here this evening, so we will proceed with the meeting. 7 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,480 Does the city clerk have any announcements? 8 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,600 Yes, Mayor. 9 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Written, public comments were received, and those comments were forwarded to the council. 10 00:05:15,020 --> 00:05:18,500 A reminder, public comment is three minutes for those attending in persons. 11 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,280 Beaker cards can be found at the entrance of the chambers. 12 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,320 If you're participating remotely and would like to comment through Zoom or by telephone, please 13 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Please use a raise hand feature or press R9 on your phone when the relevant agenda item 14 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,400 is announced. 15 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:33,900 The mayor will call on you when it's your turn to speak. 16 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:34,540 Thank you. 17 00:05:34,940 --> 00:05:35,440 Thank you. 18 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,860 Do any of the council members have any conflicts of interest? 19 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:42,950 I do not see any. 20 00:05:43,150 --> 00:05:43,550 Thank you. 21 00:05:44,250 --> 00:05:46,930 Will the city attorney please report out on a closed session? 22 00:05:47,550 --> 00:05:48,010 Yes, mayor. 23 00:05:48,470 --> 00:05:52,290 The under closed session, the council considered items related to existing litigation. 24 00:05:52,570 --> 00:05:54,030 No reportable action was taken. 25 00:05:54,650 --> 00:05:55,150 Thank you. 26 00:05:56,470 --> 00:06:05,070 Next on the agenda is item 1. Consider accepting the resignation of Thomas Orozco from the audit committee. 27 00:06:06,010 --> 00:06:12,290 Does council have any questions and staff? Seeing none, I will open item 1 up to the public. 28 00:06:12,430 --> 00:06:17,290 Are there any members of the public that would like to come forward? If you are participating remotely, 29 00:06:17,630 --> 00:06:24,110 please use the raise hand feature now or dial star 9 on a telephone to indicate you wish to speak on this item. 30 00:06:24,110 --> 00:06:31,080 Seeing no one, I will close public comments and item one, any comments from council members. 31 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,180 I serve on the audit committee and I would like to publicly thank Thomas for his service. 32 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:49,060 He was a public member of the audit committee and served very responsibly and was always on time and prepared and I appreciate his service. 33 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:57,780 I need a motion to the resolution accepting the resignation of Thomas Orozco from the audit committee. 34 00:06:57,820 --> 00:06:58,220 So moved. 35 00:06:58,460 --> 00:06:58,820 Second. 36 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,900 Moved by Council Member Bavaro, seconded by Vice Mayor Williams, will the clerk please call 37 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:06,900 the roll for this item. 38 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,740 Council Member Bavaro. 39 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,160 Aye. 40 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Vice Mayor Williams. 41 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Aye. 42 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,640 Council Member Wright. 43 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:12,960 Aye. 44 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,580 Council Member Sglitia Brayton. 45 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:14,800 Aye. 46 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:15,840 Council Member Albert. 47 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:16,380 Aye. 48 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:18,620 Councilmember Ricky and mayors Wallen. 49 00:07:18,820 --> 00:07:18,920 Aye. 50 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:19,920 Carries unanimously. 51 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,220 Next is item two. 52 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Consider accepting the resignation of Gloria Edith Verdun 53 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,080 from the Citizens Housing and Community Development Committee. 54 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,860 Does council have any questions of staff? 55 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Seeing none, I will open item two up to the public. 56 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,500 Any members of the public that would like to come forward? 57 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:41,280 Seeing none, anyone online? 58 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,480 I do not see any. 59 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,060 I will close public comments, any comments from council members? 60 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,900 Council members, Scoody Abraighton? 61 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,260 Excuse me, I close public comment for this item, for item two. 62 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,260 For item two, yes. 63 00:08:02,780 --> 00:08:03,220 Thank you. 64 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,080 And I'm sorry, I don't know why I met that, I'm sorry. 65 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,420 Okay, Vice Mayor Williams. 66 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,460 Thank you, Mayor. 67 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,780 I'd like to thank her for her service. 68 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,460 Having been on that committee myself, she was a great asset. 69 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:22,420 thank you very much. You're welcome. Any other comments from council members? Seeing none. 70 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,480 I need a motion for a resolution accepting the resignation of Gloria Edith Verdun 71 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,180 from the Citizens Housing and Community Development Committee. Do I have a motion? 72 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:36,140 Moved by council member Wright. Second. Second. 73 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,060 Second by council member Ricky. And will the clerk please call the roll for this item. 74 00:08:40,060 --> 00:08:46,420 Councilmember Povaro, Vice-Mayor Williams, Councilmember Wright, Councilmember Scootier-Brayton, 75 00:08:46,540 --> 00:08:50,040 Councilmember Alvarez, Councilmember Ricky, and Mayor Zohlan. 76 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:58,800 I, Curie Jean-Animously, next on the agenda is public comment. 77 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:05,660 I have a statement that I will make and then we will proceed. 78 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:12,470 Before we move to public comment, I understand there may be many individuals here and 79 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:19,430 online who have concerns regarding data centers. The issue is received significant attention 80 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:24,650 in the news and the city has received numerous comments and questions on this topic. As 81 00:09:24,650 --> 00:09:30,450 the city has previously stated publicly and to the press, large data centers are not currently 82 00:09:30,450 --> 00:09:38,250 and allowed use or under the city's zoning code. Any change to the zoning code would require 83 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:43,210 a formal code amendment process which would include consideration by the planning commission 84 00:09:43,210 --> 00:09:45,830 and ultimately come before the City Council for approval. 85 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:52,510 City staff is not working on a proposed amendment to the zoning code to allow data centers 86 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:57,630 and they are also working on and exploring the need for a moratorium. 87 00:09:58,490 --> 00:10:02,390 I want to make sure that everyone understands the city's current position in the existing 88 00:10:02,390 --> 00:10:04,330 process before we hear from the public. 89 00:10:04,330 --> 00:10:10,850 We always welcome the community's comments and appreciate everyone who has taken the time to share their thoughts. 90 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:19,020 Regarding public comment in general, public comment tonight is available both in person and through Zoom. 91 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:31,860 We thank you for joining us. The City Council meetings are a place where everyone is encouraged to share insights, listen, and participate in the decision-making process that benefits our community. 92 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:38,320 to ensure a fair and respectful environment, the mayor is responsible for maintaining order 93 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:44,220 and decorum is outlined in the city charter and the rules of decorum posted at the entrance 94 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:51,000 of the chamber. I ask that we are all respectful of all members of the public, presenters and 95 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:57,000 council members. Anyone who disrupts the meeting may be asked to leave. I appreciate your 96 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Your cooperation is we discuss key issues and make decisions that affect our city. 97 00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:06,280 We will now open public comment for items not on the council agenda. 98 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,820 You have three minutes to speak and if you are participating remotely, please use the 99 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:17,760 raise hand feature or dial star nine on your phone to indicate you'd like to provide public 100 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,200 comment. 101 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,860 I will alternate between participants attending in-person and those participating remotely. 102 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:33,860 I will begin with the first blue card that I have and it is Carolyn Newman. 103 00:11:43,930 --> 00:11:44,030 Hello. 104 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:50,230 My name is Carolyn Newman and I am on the Citizens Transit Sales Tax Commission and I am a board 105 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:54,090 member on the Stanislaus County Civil Taxpayer Association. 106 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:59,330 When talking about AI data centers, many folks who are here tonight will say better than 107 00:11:59,330 --> 00:12:04,570 I have the time to how profound the polluting effects are on our environment as well as 108 00:12:04,570 --> 00:12:07,750 how they are used to pollute our privacy as regular residents. 109 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:09,150 They are correct. 110 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:15,110 However, I'm here to speak on a different element of concern, how AI data centers affect 111 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:17,130 you, council members and Mayor's Whalan. 112 00:12:18,090 --> 00:12:23,670 Very recently, you passed an aggressive 10-year general plan that relies on attracting 113 00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:28,630 mirrored industrial businesses to boost the economy and support population growth with 114 00:12:28,630 --> 00:12:29,710 jobs and commerce. 115 00:12:30,770 --> 00:12:35,710 If you allow a AI data center which uses up an extraordinary amount of water and electricity, 116 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:42,270 you would be doing so at the exclusion of other industry for no meaningful revenue growth, 117 00:12:42,610 --> 00:12:44,230 tax gain, or job growth. 118 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:49,490 The only people who get value from data centers are the companies who own them and the land 119 00:12:49,490 --> 00:12:49,830 owner. 120 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:50,830 That's it. 121 00:12:50,830 --> 00:12:56,290 If you do decide to consider engaging with an AI data center, there are upfront concerns 122 00:12:56,290 --> 00:12:57,370 you will have to navigate. 123 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:58,470 Foremost. 124 00:12:59,110 --> 00:13:03,870 Too many companies who sold AI data centers to their residents were caught bribing local 125 00:13:03,870 --> 00:13:06,190 officials and engaging in political corruption. 126 00:13:06,890 --> 00:13:13,230 The new tactic is inappropriate NDAs and circumventing the public process, which is why we are here 127 00:13:13,230 --> 00:13:13,570 today. 128 00:13:14,570 --> 00:13:17,170 They promise you they will only run turbines at 20%. 129 00:13:17,610 --> 00:13:18,990 They will run them at 80%. 130 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:23,390 They promise you, they will only run three turbines, they'll run all nine. 131 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:28,870 They will tell you they have found ways to reduce noise and heat and use less water or cycle at safety. 132 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,050 They are lying. 133 00:13:31,870 --> 00:13:39,970 And they only need you to believe the lie long enough so they can build their building and you have to shoulder the consequences of their lies. 134 00:13:40,810 --> 00:13:43,990 For betrayal like this in municipalities all across the country, 135 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:48,370 elected and appointed officials have been fired, recalled, voted out and sued. 136 00:13:49,230 --> 00:13:51,810 I suspect those political careers will never recover. 137 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:55,170 If you still decide to allow an AI data center, 138 00:13:55,370 --> 00:13:59,150 I suggest you look at an email I will send you that includes the 43 rules 139 00:13:59,150 --> 00:14:01,390 that Plymouth Township in Pennsylvania has implemented. 140 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:05,270 As an emerging technology, you have every right to create new restrictions, 141 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:10,330 particularly for any industry using an entire population's worth of power and water. 142 00:14:10,330 --> 00:14:15,590 Furthermore, you have the right to create a moratorium on constructing or operating AI 143 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:16,250 data centers. 144 00:14:16,770 --> 00:14:20,510 We have some five-year data in studies, but we do not have 10-year data. 145 00:14:21,130 --> 00:14:25,050 Even if you are unmoved by the many, many concerns of your residents that you will hear 146 00:14:25,050 --> 00:14:29,570 tonight, I ask that you will consider how you are perceived by us. 147 00:14:29,930 --> 00:14:34,370 And if allowing an AI data center is the hallmark you want to end your political career on. 148 00:14:35,130 --> 00:14:35,730 Thank you. 149 00:14:36,330 --> 00:14:37,010 Thank you. 150 00:14:39,950 --> 00:14:45,190 Next online. Clara online. 151 00:14:49,330 --> 00:14:53,410 Great. We can hear you. Okay, perfect. Good evening, ma'am. 152 00:14:53,930 --> 00:14:58,350 And members of the City Council, my name is Clara Nostek, and I'm a resident of the 153 00:14:58,350 --> 00:14:58,670 That's it. 154 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:29,340 I'm here tonight to urge you to shut down any proposed data center project in Manesto. I ask the council to follow the lead of our neighbors in Patterson by enacting an immediate moratorium on all new AI data center developments. Health and community resources are deeply political. And we cannot talk about this project without looking at the actual social determinants of health in our town. Please do not be swayed by the potential short term game during the building of these large centers. 155 00:15:29,340 --> 00:15:33,840 and instead consider who will bear the burden of the skyrocketing utility bills, 156 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,300 grid instability, and long-term environmental costs once the construction dust settles, 157 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,800 and the tech companies move on to their next bill. 158 00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:46,240 Entertaining any AI data center in Modesto is a threat to public health 159 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,640 and economic issue for many reasons, but tonight I will present three. 160 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,200 Number one, our food system. 161 00:15:52,460 --> 00:15:58,000 The sheer water depletion and electromagnetic interference directly threaten our local agriculture. 162 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,300 the bee populations, cattle farms, and crops. 163 00:16:02,220 --> 00:16:05,200 Number two, the chronic environmental stress these facilities run. 164 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:11,140 They run industrial cooling fans 24-7 and that constant little frequency drone isn't just annoying. 165 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:16,340 It also causes real sleep disruption, chronic stress, and elevated blood pressure for nearby families. 166 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,700 Number three, the massive diesel backup generators will emit toxic particulate matter. 167 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:26,720 It is a privilege to ignore air quality, but for our kids, the seniors and our neighbors 168 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,380 with asthma, they don't have that luxury. 169 00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:34,420 In Modesto and Santa Slaus County, chronic lower respiratory diseases are already a leading 170 00:16:34,420 --> 00:16:39,820 cause of death, and I ask you all to do what you can to avoid adding to that burden. 171 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,080 As your decision today will shake Modesto for generations to come, as and as our elected 172 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,540 leaders, it is your job to protect this community, not just corporate interests, and the voters 173 00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:55,120 of this district will be watching this decision very closely and we will absolutely hold you accountable 174 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:01,360 at the bout box. So please stand with your constituents and put let's put a moratorium on any 175 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,180 future data centers in this city as well as Santa Barbara County. Thank you. You're welcome. 176 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,140 Next is Jacqueline Reeves Gibson. 177 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Welcome. 178 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,300 You said Jacqueline Reeves Gibson, right? Yes. 179 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:28,200 Okay. My name is Jacqueline and I have lived in Modesto for 30 years. I'm not going to repeat 180 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:34,260 statistics at you guys. You know that data centers are bad for communities, for utility 181 00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:38,840 prices and for environments. You've seen the same testimonials that we've all seen. 182 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:48,440 We, the people who elected you and pay your $30,000 paycheck every year to speak for us. 183 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,020 We are telling you that we don't want this. 184 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:54,500 We do not want data centers in our community. 185 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,580 Mayors Wallen, thank you for reassuring us that there is currently no allowance in our town. 186 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,200 We appreciate your back and forth of us, but frankly, it's not enough. 187 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:14,290 We the people you represent want our city municipal code to specifically prohibit data centers. 188 00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:19,670 So I won't lecture you, but I will ask you a very specific question. 189 00:18:21,570 --> 00:18:23,010 And I will ask it on public record. 190 00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:31,590 City Council member Eric Alvarez, sir, will you support a moratorium on data centers being built in Modesto? 191 00:18:32,610 --> 00:18:32,970 Thank you. 192 00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:36,330 City Council member Nick Bavaro, 193 00:18:38,460 --> 00:18:42,340 will you commit to putting a moratorium on data centers being built in Modesto? 194 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,860 At this point, I'm going to ask for guidance from our city attorney because this is not on tonight's agenda. 195 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:53,980 I don't think we can be voting publicly at something that the entire isn't quite voting and I checked before I came up here 196 00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:55,260 and it did allow for back-and-for. 197 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,420 Sure. 198 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,440 Okay. 199 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,320 So there should have been a discussion, but she's able to ask the question. 200 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Oh, sure. 201 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,560 Thank you very much. 202 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,800 Your response to your question. 203 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Yes, on the question. 204 00:19:04,620 --> 00:19:12,720 If we respond, if the response is there any problem then we should respond once the item, if the item is on the agenda, that's when we should follow. 205 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:14,420 Okay, thank you. 206 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:15,980 Okay, thank you very much. 207 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:25,340 City Council member and vice mayor, Jeremiah Williams, will you commit to a moratorium on data centers being built in Modesto? 208 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:32,690 Joe, are we able to respond to the issue? 209 00:19:33,030 --> 00:19:41,130 Item is not on the agenda, so response, obviously, we would not be voting on any item as support on because it's not on the agenda. 210 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:43,270 So discussion, we can't, we can't have discussion. 211 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:46,970 This is simply the neighbor of yours asking a very specific question, sir. 212 00:19:47,150 --> 00:19:50,710 You can always call me and then I can give you that answer. 213 00:19:51,410 --> 00:19:52,150 Thank you, please. 214 00:19:52,330 --> 00:19:52,670 Understood. 215 00:19:55,120 --> 00:20:00,880 Neighbors, these first three city council members are currently going to be up for election in November of this year. 216 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Excuse me. 217 00:20:01,780 --> 00:20:02,720 Please remember that. 218 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,660 Mayor Schuze-Wallen, will you commit to a moratorium on data centers being built in Modesto? 219 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,620 No comment. 220 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:16,760 Understood. 221 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,420 Good. Neighbors, up for election in 2020, please be aware, 222 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,660 we are committed to holding 223 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:32,220 our leaders responsible to the decisions they make for us. Please know. Our eyes are on 224 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:35,360 you. Thank you. You're welcome. 225 00:20:39,490 --> 00:20:44,430 Next online, we have Ramon Rodriguez online. 226 00:20:47,910 --> 00:20:48,890 Good evening, 227 00:20:48,890 --> 00:20:51,810 Council members, Madam Mayor, everyone can hear me? 228 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:53,310 Yes, we can hear you. 229 00:20:54,890 --> 00:21:03,980 The data centers for everyone for the sake of the community, you had to be really careful 230 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:09,740 in dealing because these companies, these AI companies, they're coming with various tricks, 231 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:14,020 dirty tricks, and schemes to build the data centers. 232 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,700 and I remember years and years ago with a teleplane on cross landing road in 233 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:25,640 Modesto. Having a data center that's going to make the teleplane looks like the 234 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,480 amateur hour but it's going to be devastating for communities especially 235 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:35,380 marginalized communities and for all the talk of annexing lands and everything 236 00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:41,640 especially wood colony we should not have a data center at all especially AI 237 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:50,100 because of testimonies of data of proof what's going on at AI data center in 238 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:54,780 Bethesda it's going to be devastating for everyone and it's not going to 239 00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:58,460 benefit for their community it's going to benefit the corporation it's going to 240 00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:05,120 benefit the billionaires to tech bros and it's going to destroy our environment 241 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:09,720 our livelihoods and it's going to destroy the Central Valley by drying up all 242 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:16,140 the water, ruining the environment, and also ruining our economy because they're going 243 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:23,460 to take water instead of using the water to grow crops and producing food, it's going 244 00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:28,020 to use the power, something that's not going to benefit for society. 245 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:39,120 So you have to stand up for the community until the AI data center people know, and also 246 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:46,580 So do it seriously because if you accept them, it's not going to look good for you. 247 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,400 It's happening everywhere in the country. 248 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:57,020 And this is a chance to stand up and say no to data centers, especially AI because having 249 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:04,180 data centers in Modesto, it's going to affect the entire Central Valley, especially living 250 00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:12,540 at time was I'm a change with all the terminals happening it's not going to look good plus working 251 00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:19,680 close to it at the bubble it's going to be first on AI it's going to make the tech bubble look 252 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:25,740 like amateur hour so for the sake of the community and the sake of Central Valley and everywhere in 253 00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:32,520 California consider a moratorium on data centers just like what Patterson did and all over California 254 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,540 because we to people say no to AIDA is there. Thank you. 255 00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:37,360 You're welcome. 256 00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:43,400 Next is Sandra. Sandra? 257 00:23:45,790 --> 00:23:46,990 There you go. Please. 258 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:52,430 I'm sorry. I wasn't sure how to pronounce your last name. 259 00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:55,150 Start. Okay. Great. Thank you. 260 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:59,350 Good evening, everyone. I'm going to make it kind of short here. 261 00:23:59,910 --> 00:24:03,150 I'm really highly suggesting that the council listen. 262 00:24:04,570 --> 00:24:08,550 Yes, can you please speak into the microphone, there we go, thank you. 263 00:24:08,690 --> 00:24:14,210 Highly suggesting that you listen to what we all want here, we don't want the data centers. 264 00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:26,210 We don't, we know that our code bans it, but this has been a, you know, maybe a little consideration since 2025. 265 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:32,010 And we just kind of find out about these things now and it's not right. 266 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:40,730 And I don't think that North Point developers are pretty much in it for themselves. 267 00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:52,410 Our community is going to be watching really all of you to see how many stand behind 268 00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:56,070 us who stand behind Modesto and don't want this. 269 00:24:56,070 --> 00:25:06,270 this effect, power grid string, water use, no job growth, because if you think it's going 270 00:25:06,270 --> 00:25:14,970 to give jobs, it's not. You don't need many people to run a computer. Okay. And it's 271 00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:24,930 just not tolerable. We have enough going on here in our city. We have enough. And I think 272 00:25:24,930 --> 00:25:29,950 It gets better to stick with the issues that are more important and the data center is 273 00:25:29,950 --> 00:25:30,190 not. 274 00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:31,830 And that's all I need. 275 00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:32,930 Thank you. 276 00:25:33,150 --> 00:25:33,330 Thank you. 277 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:39,620 Next online is Elijah Felder-Rosen? 278 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Elijah? 279 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:41,600 Online? 280 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:48,690 This is Elijah Elder-Rosen. 281 00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:51,730 Thank you for taking my comment, mayor and council members. 282 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:52,150 You're welcome. 283 00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:52,510 Welcome. 284 00:25:53,930 --> 00:26:00,450 I am here to join the overwhelming course of voices that I hear on a daily basis. 285 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:07,550 asking for a moratorium on AI data centers. We can look at the record of what's 286 00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:13,350 gone on around the country and see the sideways channels these companies can 287 00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:19,470 use to circumnavigate zoning laws to get AI data centers built in places where 288 00:26:19,470 --> 00:26:24,990 people did not want them. I am a local educator here. I'm an environmental 289 00:26:24,990 --> 00:26:29,510 scientist and I work with children. I'm the sustainability coordinator at the 290 00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:33,830 school that I work at. And we talk about this with the kids all the time. I was just asking 291 00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:37,590 the kids about this today. How would they feel about the AI data center? And all the 292 00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:41,730 eighth graders I was talking to today realized that that will ruin their future. We'll be 293 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:49,550 looking at environmental catastrophe, a financial catastrophe, and basically selling out the 294 00:26:49,550 --> 00:26:54,450 future of my students and our children and locally for short-term profit for corporations. 295 00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:57,230 We don't want it. We won't accept it. 296 00:26:57,730 --> 00:27:02,990 If people are not willing to listen to us, we will get organized and vote you out of office. 297 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:07,530 We are extremely upset at the idea that it could even be a possibility. 298 00:27:08,590 --> 00:27:16,130 North Point is not a good corporation. The time I spent reading about them, they seem like one of the most evil entities that could possibly exist. 299 00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:23,870 We don't want them lobbying you to change our zoning laws. We don't want them getting in any way they possibly can. 300 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:29,850 So, please include language that makes sure that we do not get an AI data center that ruins 301 00:27:29,850 --> 00:27:30,570 our community. 302 00:27:31,090 --> 00:27:34,570 Modesto is a beautiful and thriving place that has so much potential. 303 00:27:35,170 --> 00:27:40,090 I would like to see us focus on the circular bio-economy that's already starting to flourish. 304 00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:45,330 There's been a $50 million investment in the circular bio-economy with an organization 305 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,390 called Beam Circular the last couple years. 306 00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:53,490 And they've been talking to us educators and telling us about how we can have so many jobs 307 00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:57,830 it's going to be hundreds of millions of dollars in industry. Well guess what? If we don't have 308 00:27:57,830 --> 00:28:03,090 the water and resources for those corporations to come in here and give us jobs and give our kids 309 00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:09,670 a future at any education level, then it's not going to happen for us. We're going to be 310 00:28:09,670 --> 00:28:17,790 another crappy dust bowl town on the 99. Could you imagine if our air was any worse? Could you imagine 311 00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:22,470 if our water was any worse? I have so many students with chronic health problems from the terrible air 312 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:28,170 Modesto already. If we degrade our environment any further we'll have nothing left. So thank you so 313 00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:38,710 much for listening and I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Next is Olga, customada. Olga, yes. Welcome. 314 00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:50,530 Good evening mayor and honorable council members. I'm here also to join my fellow citizens 315 00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:59,090 in urging you to enact a moratorium on data center construction in Modesto. 316 00:29:00,590 --> 00:29:09,610 And let's be good ancestors to our, for me, grandchildren. 317 00:29:11,010 --> 00:29:14,110 And thank you. You're welcome. 318 00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:16,570 next online 319 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:23,020 is Kim online. 320 00:29:27,310 --> 00:29:31,490 Hello, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. I am also a resident 321 00:29:31,490 --> 00:29:36,630 of the city of Modesto. My name is Kim, right? I am a social worker here who works with 322 00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:42,470 homeless vets and I also do private practice in the city. I remember when I first moved 323 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:48,090 to the city that people said, oh, you're going to have allergies. Oh, this and that. And as 324 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:55,430 lived here over time, they were right. I'm more concerned not just about allergies, but 325 00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:58,430 But the other serious condition. 326 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,980 That could be contributed to aye centers. From the noise pollution to the things that have already been said, the consistency of our water, the quality of our water, the quality of our air, our quality of life, the whole night, and I stand in solidarity with my fellow residents, that we are taking notice of how people are voting. We are taking notice of how people were unwilling to even verbalize a commitment to a moratorium. I think it should be more than a moratorium. 327 00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:37,980 it should be a flat-out ban on building data centers here in the city or anywhere in our county. 328 00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:44,300 And so if we do have to organize, if we do need to re-vote or if we need to run for office ourselves, 329 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:51,060 please do not sell out the soul of our city, not just the profit for the corporations, 330 00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:53,500 but for any personal profit or gain. 331 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,060 So I am encouraging everyone that I know. 332 00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:01,600 Pay attention to these meetings, get involved in these meetings, know what is going on, 333 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,780 know what your politicians are doing, use your voice. 334 00:31:05,260 --> 00:31:09,220 And I would have been there in person had I not had a conflict of interest somewhere out 335 00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:10,460 that is equally important. 336 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,480 But we are taking notice and we do want and expect our voices to be heard. 337 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:17,160 And if we are ignored, we're not going to go away. 338 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,080 Thank you. 339 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,260 I'm sorry about that. 340 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,900 Hello, my name is Alma Torres. 341 00:31:36,380 --> 00:31:40,220 I'm a resident of Patterson here in solidarity with you guys, 342 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:41,740 because my family lives here in Modesto. 343 00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:46,700 I'm here to let you know we have already used up the majority of natural resources 344 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,060 that the planet can regenerate this year. 345 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,940 Not talking about exactly here in our region just yet. 346 00:31:52,940 --> 00:31:58,320 But AI data centers could pollute and waste what's left, especially when we have finite resources. 347 00:31:58,780 --> 00:32:02,120 The water you need for your livestock, your agriculture, all of that could be gone. 348 00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:07,180 Your property values in time will tank too because nobody can tolerate the sound issues. 349 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:13,540 Data heat islands or temperature spikes, bad drinking water quality, bad air quality. 350 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:20,460 My friend lives in Arizona, her air quality, she lives surrounded by data air centers. 351 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:27,180 It was a very bad 500 index, I can't remember exactly, but I'll get to that later. 352 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:37,920 We have information about these heat islands that can be felt up to six miles away, up to 353 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,400 16 degrees hotter. 354 00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:45,060 We have not quantified the cost of living or the cost of running data centers when it comes 355 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:45,940 to our communities. 356 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120 A lot of people commute and fuel is costly. 357 00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:55,260 We're going to be competing with these data centers in the long run because the Hormuz is 358 00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:55,540 closed. 359 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,460 The blockades and standoffs have created global economic impacts, shortages in resources 360 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:02,140 and fuels. 361 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:07,200 Something to consider as the cost of living those costs go up, we're going to be in deep 362 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,500 trouble. 363 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,360 We are looking at grid strain. 364 00:33:09,740 --> 00:33:14,920 Using large amounts of fossil fuels, we face fuel supply, depletion and massive need 365 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,600 for electric. 366 00:33:15,820 --> 00:33:22,700 In one case, 50,000 residents of Lake Tahoe will lose their power, May of 2027, to power 367 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:23,780 data centers in Nevada. 368 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,880 How is the grid holding up, Modesto? 369 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Good I hope, 370 00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:34,420 I'm sorry, I'm trying to lay not run out of time. 371 00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:42,460 A single large data center can require 20 to 100 megawatts of continuous power for IT equipment, 372 00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:50,120 for cooling and infrastructure. That same amount of energy or power, it could go to 80,000 or 100,000 homes here in Modesto. 373 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,080 Modesto has an estimated city population of 219,652 people. 374 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:05,300 While the broader Modesto metropolitan statistic area is the San County, the homes come up to roughly 557,000 residents. 375 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,980 If push comes to shove, half the city could go dark without power if we allow data centers to come in. 376 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,840 who do we choose to lose power? Somebody is going to have to lose if we don't demand the 377 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:22,500 developers to build and pay for a 24-hour, 24-hour, seven-day grid addition to provide 378 00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:28,340 their own power that runs on clean energy. We must demand independent environmental impact 379 00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:34,420 studies. There is no middle ground. If they don't, they will hook up to the existing grid 380 00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:38,600 on our power, our water utilities, everything will increase our costs. 381 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,220 Sorry. 382 00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:41,840 Thank you. 383 00:34:43,870 --> 00:34:44,770 Thank you. 384 00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:46,350 Thank you. 385 00:34:46,990 --> 00:34:47,370 Thank you. 386 00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:53,350 Next online, heart, court, online, heart, court. 387 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,380 Yes. 388 00:34:56,460 --> 00:34:56,620 Hello. 389 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,380 Hello. 390 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,340 We can hear you. 391 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,360 Hello, Minnesota Council. 392 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,520 I'm a heart for Democrat. 393 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:08,400 I've been a heart for Democrat my whole life and I always will be for that reason. 394 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:19,380 I want to thank the city of Modesto led by a Democratic layer with council members Chris Ricky and Eric Alvarez as Democrats for 395 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:27,880 Defending its ordinance against masking at protests. I also want to thank the city for putting up tons of flock cameras up around town 396 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,200 With that ordinance with that technology and a Democratic mayor 397 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,140 We can finally easily track and document all the conservatives and Republicans in the 398 00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:43,480 Desto when they march at an anti-choice rally or when they protest against the LGBTQ community. 399 00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:48,100 Once we finally have a Democrat in the White House again, I have faith that they will criminalize 400 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:53,740 all the worst things that conservatives believe in and having all that data on them from our 401 00:35:53,740 --> 00:35:58,320 flock cameras makes it really easy for us to know who to arrest when it comes for their 402 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,940 beliefs to be considered a crime. 403 00:36:00,940 --> 00:36:05,360 And for that reason, I also hope we get a new data center bill as close as possible, 404 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:10,120 or we can safely keep all this data on these racist and fascist care for future use. 405 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:14,280 So thank you, Mayor, thank you, City of Modesto, thank you, MPD. 406 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,400 Next in person is Carla. 407 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,520 Good evening fellow neighbors. 408 00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:50,320 I just wanted to go ahead and bring attention to the momentum that everyone is calling for. 409 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,000 they're all calling for a moratorium and based off the news organization, the focus group, 410 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,620 we've had City Council members say they would support a one-year moratorium, 411 00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:04,840 or a two-year moratorium, but I would really call on everyone to pressure your City Council 412 00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:13,780 for an infinite ban until there's legislation to change it. I believe one of our City Council members 413 00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:20,380 that we shouldn't be guiding our decisions around AI based on myth, or on tensions, or on fears, 414 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:27,540 but everyone here has been expressing real, actual threats that will impact the livelihoods of 415 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:34,920 our many generations of future children here. I grew up here in Modesto. I'm 29, and I remember every 416 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,800 single year when I was at elementary school, we're in a drought. It's time for us to water our 417 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,000 only at night or you're going to get fined. The fact that we barely go out of a 418 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,660 draw and people are still considering a data center or not considering 419 00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:53,360 supporting a moratorium on a data center is insane. Which is why I asked the 420 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,540 community to please continue to pressure the city council because even you're 421 00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:02,400 going to see that throughout this whole pressure they will not support you. An 422 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,560 example is the mask ordinance. Okay. The mask ordinance was a issue that a lot of 423 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,660 community members brought to the attention of the City Council. 424 00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:14,540 It brought to the attention of the Community Police Review Board. 425 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,260 And yet, throughout countless meetings that we came here and constantly and 426 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:24,320 constantly asked City Council members to please overturn it, get rid of it. 427 00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:25,240 They never did. 428 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,440 So what did we do? 429 00:38:26,820 --> 00:38:27,980 We took it to the legal system. 430 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,580 And thanks to the legal system, thanks to an adjunction against the mask ordinance. 431 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:37,720 MPD can no longer harass you for protesting with a mask on, okay. 432 00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:40,460 So that was not thanks to the City Council. 433 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:48,840 That was not thanks to the pressure of the many City members that came here asking them to do so, and they still appeal to it by the way, the City Council appeal to it, okay. 434 00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:58,460 So therefore I'm asking you guys, all of you guys, don't support a moratorium, that's one year or two year to just do pressing issues or it's based off fears. 435 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,820 support a moratorium and definitely we cannot afford data center and thanks to 436 00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:08,100 everyone who did their research you guys are definitely more prepared I am but 437 00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:11,920 I definitely do want to inform you guys that yes no matter how much you come and 438 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,260 you pressure the city council unless you take legal action or political action as 439 00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:20,900 the young lady before thanks for doing that well away did they're not going to 440 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:22,380 listen to you thank you 441 00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:28,530 Next online. 442 00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:30,170 Excuse me, online. 443 00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:32,530 There's not a name, but it's Samsa. 444 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,720 Are you there? 445 00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:45,920 Yes, I'm here. 446 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,420 We can hear you, no? 447 00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:48,060 You can hear me, no? 448 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:49,480 Yes, we can hear you. 449 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:49,660 We can hear you, no? 450 00:39:49,740 --> 00:39:50,580 I'm even Angela Jensen. 451 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,700 My men started, they started. 452 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,600 My name is Angela Jensen. 453 00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:58,280 I have been a resident of Modesto California in my entire life. 454 00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,660 I am 40 years old. 455 00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:06,880 I have no patience for religion and honestly most of this crap but there is a quote that 456 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,860 I would really like to say because it's very relevant right now and that you reap what 457 00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:18,100 you sow and what has been sowed is a massive amount of distrust between the data centers 458 00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:24,360 and these flock cameras they're ridiculous you guys have already shown not you guys but 459 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,040 But the city's already shown that our technologies as far as the 460 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,240 flock cameras or whatever you want to call them are fallible. 461 00:40:31,580 --> 00:40:38,620 In March, there was a mass data breach and we're just tired of it. 462 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,560 We don't need to be surveyed. 463 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:42,640 We're not children, we're a community. 464 00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:46,640 And as far as the data centers, like everybody else is telling you, 465 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200 there are massive waste on our resources. 466 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,640 If you bring that in, MID will have to build an entirely new grid. 467 00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:57,660 And who's going to fit that bill, we will. 468 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,300 And who's going to pay for it, we will. 469 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:06,400 It makes no sense to tell us, to water our plants every other day, to conserve energy, 470 00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:12,380 to conserve water, and for you to bring in these massive machines that nobody wants, that's 471 00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:17,420 going to suck up our power, especially in a time when you could see that the entire world 472 00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:18,080 is on fire. 473 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:24,900 there. How long until it's us? Okay? And I'm going to leave it there. The only thing 474 00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:29,500 that I want to say is Chris Rikki. I really appreciate the attention that you've been 475 00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:35,300 bringing to the animal services agency. All right, you guys have a good one. Thank you. 476 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,660 Next is Anthony Dropnick. 477 00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:40,990 Anthony. 478 00:41:52,290 --> 00:41:55,250 Good evening all. My name is Anthony Dropnick and I'm 479 00:41:55,250 --> 00:42:01,360 a proud public school teacher. Today is the first day of school for many children. And 480 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,840 And childhood really is a special time, the simplicity, the innocence, it's beautiful. 481 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:09,380 Think back on some of your favorite childhood memories. 482 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:15,480 Back when the word ordinance didn't mean anything to you, back when flock was just something 483 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,680 birds did, and back was ice, was just that thing you put in your apple juice on a hot day. 484 00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:25,600 The issues facing Modesto tonight may appear complicated, but I really believe that young 485 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,800 children would have no problem seeing the simple truths as a matter that I'll be speaking 486 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,480 on tonight. And to help reach the inner child in all of us, I think it's time for a story. 487 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,340 My childhood favorite was Dr. Sips. 488 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:44,540 In a city of water, contentment in health, where 489 00:42:44,540 --> 00:42:49,100 neighborly love is its own form of wealth. A stranger came strolling through the town, 490 00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:55,480 in a very fine suit, in a very big crown. He wasn't from here. He wasn't from there. His name 491 00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:01,220 was Mr. Greed, and he didn't play fair. Greed looked at the valley and licked his lips wet. 492 00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:03,840 He wedded his lips, is wed as they get. 493 00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,800 He craved dollars and deals and power galore. 494 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,560 He shared as he dreamed, more, more and more. 495 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:14,180 First came all the cameras, watching the street, safety cried greed. 496 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,280 Surveillance is neat, but folks called out, who owns the pictures they keep? 497 00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:21,120 Who watches the watchers? 498 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,580 How long did they sleep? 499 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,240 Next came agents, with power of the state. 500 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,660 Mr. Greed said, excellent, make this place great. 501 00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:37,420 But the value replied, you don't belong here, you can't take my neighbor, those are people you're hurting, so much more than their labor. 502 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:45,080 Then data centers rose, as the zones got all redesigned, AI shouted, greed, embrace the future, or get left behind. 503 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:51,960 But farmers asked, who decides who drinks up the water? Will there be enough left to drink for my son or my daughter? 504 00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:58,320 Mr. Greed feared the people, together, taking a stand, he'd keep people from protesting. 505 00:43:58,660 --> 00:44:03,820 Masks were now banned, but the people did say, you can't do that, we have the right. 506 00:44:04,460 --> 00:44:08,220 This is our valley, so get lost, scram, take flight. 507 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,440 Mr. Greed shook his head, you people complain. 508 00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:17,420 I'm bringing you progress, I'm bringing you gain, but the valleys stood firm and answered 509 00:44:17,420 --> 00:44:17,860 instead. 510 00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:22,740 your gain isn't progress if we're all left for dead you don't live here you 511 00:44:22,740 --> 00:44:27,560 don't farm this ground you don't get to decide the fate of our town so when 512 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,060 Mr. Greed comes with another grand scheme don't simply applaud him stand strong 513 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:38,440 as a team show up speak out demand a real say protect our valley and send 514 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,840 agreed away. Thank you. 515 00:44:42,850 --> 00:44:43,950 Next 516 00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:54,070 online 517 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,200 is the initial 518 00:45:06,490 --> 00:45:06,970 Okay. 519 00:45:09,830 --> 00:45:14,090 Good evening, city council. My name is Laura Conner, and I am a concerned community member 520 00:45:14,090 --> 00:45:18,770 who is here to echo those who have commented before me, invoiced my opposition to the development 521 00:45:18,770 --> 00:45:23,430 of data centers of any kind in our city. In addition to expressing my concerns about 522 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:27,650 the rights of surveillance locally, I do want to acknowledge the city statement, which says 523 00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:32,410 that data centers are not in the loud land use under Modesto's municipal code. However, 524 00:45:32,410 --> 00:45:37,730 the level of ongoing underhanded activity from North Point Development has been reported 525 00:45:37,730 --> 00:45:42,710 by our local journalists is deeply concerning to me and many other residents, especially 526 00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:45,030 considering North Point's portfolio. 527 00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:49,910 Let's be clear, data centers are a waste of our local resources, whether they create jobs 528 00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:55,230 as highly debatable, but what is undeniable is how they can harm our environment, hike 529 00:45:55,230 --> 00:46:00,110 up the cost of our utility bills, and how some of them have even been deployed to violate 530 00:46:00,110 --> 00:46:05,350 the constitutional rights of civilians by tracking us in a personal data for malicious purposes. 531 00:46:06,010 --> 00:46:10,150 I also want to uplift a previous speaker's comment about the breach of data that occurred in 532 00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:15,190 which one of MPD's automated license plate reader cameras share data with federal agencies, 533 00:46:15,530 --> 00:46:21,210 including customs and border patrol. To this day, I am unaware of how MPD has been held accountable 534 00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:26,050 for sharing local data with immigration enforcement. The breach happening at all is unacceptable, 535 00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:31,970 especially when we have had our immigrant neighbors snatched up by ice, including at the court house most recently. 536 00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:35,390 These automated license plate readers do not promote public safety. 537 00:46:35,810 --> 00:46:38,230 They promote the violation of our trust and privacy. 538 00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:45,230 In closing, I want to emphasize that the residents of Modesto don't need thousands of dollars poured into data centers 539 00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:51,530 or automated license plate readers or the over-policing of marginalized groups 540 00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:56,070 or the defense of a discriminatory mask ordinance. 541 00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:59,590 We need safety and stability in the form of more affordable housing, 542 00:46:59,970 --> 00:47:01,690 more emergency housing, rental assistance, 543 00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:05,830 universal basic income and stronger accountability measures 544 00:47:05,830 --> 00:47:08,430 to ensure that our police department is not targeting 545 00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:10,490 nor complicit in the targeting of immigrants, 546 00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:13,150 people of color, poor people, and homeless people. 547 00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:15,470 As our elected officials, what you choose 548 00:47:15,470 --> 00:47:18,270 or don't choose to invest taxpayer dollars into, 549 00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:22,850 you, speaks volumes about your regard for our, for your constituents. I ask that you 550 00:47:22,850 --> 00:47:26,590 stand on the right side of history and on the side of the people, ban the building of 551 00:47:26,590 --> 00:47:31,810 any data centers in our city, allocate funding to the community, police, review board, and 552 00:47:31,810 --> 00:47:36,450 spend more of your time, energy, leadership, and resources on life-affirming solutions to 553 00:47:36,450 --> 00:47:42,070 our problems, not one centered on extracting from us, targeting us, or locking us up under 554 00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:44,790 the guys of public safety. Thank you. You're welcome. 555 00:47:52,010 --> 00:47:54,150 Next is Sidney Waters. 556 00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:05,150 Hello. As I'm sure you're aware the idea of a 557 00:48:05,150 --> 00:48:09,170 data center building here is when the community doesn't like. We have showed 558 00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:13,130 up loud and proud to make sure the council knows that. Many possible issues come 559 00:48:13,130 --> 00:48:16,990 with building something like this in a community like ours. With power involved, 560 00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:20,970 this data center could occupy 20 acres of space. Data centers of this size are 561 00:48:20,970 --> 00:48:23,990 reported to use power equivalent to 25,000 to 50,000 homes. 562 00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:27,410 We already have more than one neighborhood being built in the Modesto area. 563 00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:32,530 Can our infrastructure handle such a large burden as is, or would the residents be faced 564 00:48:32,530 --> 00:48:36,770 with bill hikes because of limited resources and power companies need to build to handle 565 00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:37,130 the load? 566 00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:41,870 As far as water is concerned, I get a schedule from the city every year telling me what days 567 00:48:41,870 --> 00:48:46,110 and times I can water my lawn or wash my car facing a possible notice and fine. 568 00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:51,230 University of Georgia, College of Agriculture and Environmental Sciences found a 20-acre 569 00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:55,590 data center can use anywhere from 300,000 to 5 million gallons of water per day. 570 00:48:56,190 --> 00:49:01,630 Would they be put on similar restrictions, unfair for residents to shoulder the only responsibility 571 00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:07,030 for that environmental burden when something like that could be built in our area. 572 00:49:07,550 --> 00:49:11,770 We're a farming community at our core, almonds and other nuts, fruits and vegetables, and our dairy 573 00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:16,370 are a huge part of not only Modesto, but the Central Valley as a whole, a drought prone, 574 00:49:16,610 --> 00:49:21,150 farming heavy, environmentally diverse area like ours does not need or want and can't handle 575 00:49:21,150 --> 00:49:25,270 the type of multi-resource drain and environmental changes, something like a data center would bring 576 00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:28,370 to our community. District 2 Councilman quoted by the Modesto 577 00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:35,470 focus saying with uncertainty comes fear, hesitation, and skepticism. The city has a responsibility 578 00:49:35,470 --> 00:49:40,450 to do research on realities, not myths or speculation. We are not uncertain. We are not 579 00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:43,550 Not treating this like a boogeyman, we are seeing and hearing the negative effects and 580 00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:48,030 realities from places this has already happened, and we, the community, this council serves, 581 00:49:48,210 --> 00:49:48,930 say no. 582 00:49:49,570 --> 00:49:52,990 The research is abundant and readily available, the community has already done it. 583 00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:56,630 I'd like to acknowledge our district three councilman's willingness to hear this community's 584 00:49:56,630 --> 00:50:01,350 response and take it into consideration, quoted saying on KCR A3, I'm concerned about their 585 00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:05,390 electric usage and the impact on rates that it would have for residents in Modesto, and posting 586 00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:09,130 on his Instagram five days ago that he will continue declining meetings intended to lobby 587 00:50:09,130 --> 00:50:14,610 before them, data centers. I urge the entire council to also listen to the community. 588 00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:22,470 Recently, we also, I believe, had a local high school take part in an MPD low-rider event, 589 00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:28,710 a local high school or a local organization actually created an entire MPD-themed low-rider 590 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:34,730 just to recently have a private on-private property low-rider event shut down by the MPD, 591 00:50:35,410 --> 00:50:37,610 citing unclear ordinances in the process. 592 00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:42,290 I don't feel the need to echo much more information 593 00:50:42,290 --> 00:50:44,710 that people have provided regarding flock cameras. 594 00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:47,330 The data breach has already been mentioned multiple times. 595 00:50:48,090 --> 00:50:49,350 I thank you for your time, 596 00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:51,550 and please continue to take all of this into consideration. 597 00:50:51,830 --> 00:50:52,350 We are listening. 598 00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:54,190 I grew up on the outskirts of District 2, 599 00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:55,830 currently live in District 3, 600 00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:58,670 and what both Councilmen have to say is very important to me, 601 00:50:58,950 --> 00:51:00,730 and I acknowledge and appreciate anyone 602 00:51:00,730 --> 00:51:01,910 who's been willing to make public comment. 603 00:51:02,410 --> 00:51:02,950 Thank you. 604 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,940 Next online is Jessica Cintero? 605 00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:12,560 Jessica? 606 00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:16,180 Hello. 607 00:51:16,820 --> 00:51:17,160 Hi there. 608 00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:24,040 I had a question because I came in a couple of minutes I think after you guys started. 609 00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:26,960 And you were talking about the data centers. 610 00:51:27,380 --> 00:51:34,500 And my question is, did I hear correctly that you said you guys currently are not entertaining 611 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:38,060 I mean, anybody moving forward for the data centers, 612 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,140 but then said that you were making or you're looking 613 00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:44,320 into making amendments for the city ordinances 614 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:47,420 to possibly include data centers? 615 00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:50,640 Is that correct or did I hear that wrong? 616 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,600 I can feel, stop it since you did not hear my comment. 617 00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:57,880 I can repeat the comment that I made. 618 00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:58,520 Yes. 619 00:51:59,220 --> 00:52:00,920 So before we move to public comment, 620 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:03,120 I understand there may be many individuals here 621 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,460 and online who have concerns regarding data centers. 622 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,680 This issue has received significant attention in the news 623 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,680 and the city has received numerous comments 624 00:52:12,060 --> 00:52:13,900 and questions on this topic. 625 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,760 As the city is previously stated publicly and to the press, 626 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,660 large data centers are not currently an allowed use 627 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:23,720 under the city's zoning code. 628 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,920 Any change to the zoning code would require 629 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,840 a formal code amendment process 630 00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:30,860 which would include consideration 631 00:52:30,860 --> 00:52:35,160 by the Planning Commission, and ultimately come before the City Council for approval. 632 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,440 City staff is not working on a proposed amendment to the zoning code to allow data centers. 633 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,980 They are exploring- 634 00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:47,300 Sorry, in that part are you now working or not working? 635 00:52:47,820 --> 00:52:51,180 City staff is not working, all this is related as I say. 636 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,240 City staff is not working on a proposed amendment to the zoning code to allow data centers. 637 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,360 They are also exploring the need for a moratorium. 638 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,760 I want to make sure that everyone understands the city's current position and the existing 639 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,780 process before we hear from the public. 640 00:53:08,180 --> 00:53:12,320 We always welcome the community's comments and appreciate everyone who has taken the 641 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,420 time to share their thoughts. 642 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,460 So proceed. 643 00:53:16,820 --> 00:53:17,520 Thank you. 644 00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:18,020 You're welcome. 645 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,100 So from what I just heard you're not working towards an amendment, correct? 646 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,520 I just stated it. 647 00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:26,700 Okay. 648 00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:32,140 Sorry, it's just a little hard to hear on my end, I'm on the Zoom and, you know, any 649 00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:38,040 who I just want to, I don't need to give you the same statistics that my 650 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,460 neighbors and family and friends whom are there have already stated. We don't 651 00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:49,320 want any data centers here. We don't want the flock cameras here. In addition to 652 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:56,580 that, at the end of the day we already are striving so hard to survive as a 653 00:53:56,580 --> 00:54:00,960 community in Modesto with all the influx from all the people that have come from the Bay 654 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:07,320 area from other places like original Modesto, Modestans, and the new people that have came 655 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:14,660 here are already struggling hard for affordable housing and things like that, even just our 656 00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:21,560 gas prices, electricity, everything. And then just to add this load onto us would be too much 657 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,640 for us in our community. 658 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,580 So please know that if you want to hear us now, 659 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:28,780 that's on the great touch. 660 00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:32,360 And we would love that you didn't entertain any data 661 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,100 centers or any further flock cameras. 662 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,960 But if you decide not to, then we will organize 663 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,860 and we will use our vote to get to people 664 00:54:42,860 --> 00:54:46,080 that have the same similar views as us in office 665 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,200 in the positions that are going to make the moves in the desk 666 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,080 so that we would like. 667 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,360 So we're going to just take representative 668 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,860 that actually represent us. 669 00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:57,140 And that's really all I have to say. 670 00:54:57,260 --> 00:54:58,180 Thank you so much for your time. 671 00:54:58,460 --> 00:54:58,820 You're welcome. 672 00:54:59,700 --> 00:54:59,840 Thank you. 673 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,480 Next, I believe, is Kenny? 674 00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:13,010 Hello, my name is Kenny Pranetta. 675 00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:16,450 I work for the Dodge Chrysler Jeep Ram Recall team. 676 00:55:16,810 --> 00:55:17,890 I work for corporate. 677 00:55:18,070 --> 00:55:18,970 I work for Moe Par. 678 00:55:19,310 --> 00:55:22,230 My job is specifically to locate Moe Par vehicles 679 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:25,070 and get the urgency to recall out of the vehicle as soon 680 00:55:25,070 --> 00:55:25,710 as possible. 681 00:55:25,710 --> 00:55:30,710 I go down all the way down to Sacramento, all the way up to Sacramento, all the way down to Fresno. 682 00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:32,850 I've seen the drought myself. 683 00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:35,190 I've spoke to farmers. 684 00:55:35,850 --> 00:55:37,170 People have have orchards. 685 00:55:38,170 --> 00:55:41,750 And they tell me from first hand that they don't have enough water. 686 00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:44,190 These data centers don't need water. 687 00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:48,630 There's a guy in Idaho just spoke about these data centers that don't need it. 688 00:55:48,730 --> 00:55:55,190 Not even a gallon of water that they use cooling coils to cool down these data centers. 689 00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:57,790 and they don't need to be that massive, all right? 690 00:55:58,890 --> 00:56:00,650 So, especially flock right now, 691 00:56:00,750 --> 00:56:01,870 and they're not even using flock, 692 00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:03,170 they're using axon cameras, 693 00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:06,030 the same cameras that the MPDs have on their chest. 694 00:56:06,590 --> 00:56:07,810 Now, they're not reading license plate, 695 00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:08,870 they're doing face recognition. 696 00:56:09,550 --> 00:56:10,850 And especially in Wisconsin, 697 00:56:11,590 --> 00:56:12,910 they're tracking their ex-girlfriends. 698 00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:16,870 And for any women, what are we doing here? 699 00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:20,090 But this is going to be inevitable, 700 00:56:20,290 --> 00:56:21,570 especially you'll be here in MPD, 701 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:23,750 that's another can of worms, I don't want to open. 702 00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:31,030 another can of worms I don't want to open. And I'm being here for a while now. I was with 703 00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:35,250 the music scene with Chris Wickey, but playing with with Josh Rosenblum and 704 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:40,350 everything and especially some of those people that didn't even like you Chris. And I'm 705 00:56:40,350 --> 00:56:44,150 sitting and I didn't like you being a man, you sure reject me and you started screaming 706 00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:46,970 about if I knew who you are. I still don't know who you are bro. 707 00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:52,760 This is what are we doing here you guys? 708 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:59,820 This is a small community. Everyone's putting, everyone's putting all their chips in. Everyone here. 709 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,660 And you guys are just, what? This is a possibility? Or we're not going to share it yet? 710 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:12,780 Like, are you serious? If we need to vote to get you guys out, we will do so. 711 00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:18,560 We will do so. Now I'm talking to you, Ricky. Also too, man. 712 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,640 All right, so that's enough of my time here. 713 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,260 Thank you. 714 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,440 Next, 715 00:57:31,810 --> 00:57:34,130 next online is L. 716 00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:47,360 Are you there online? 717 00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,000 I just see the initial L. 718 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:07,670 At this time, I'll go to the next in person. 719 00:58:08,490 --> 00:58:11,270 Speaker, and then we will come back to the person online. 720 00:58:12,910 --> 00:58:16,170 The next in person is Bill Walker. 721 00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:18,070 Bill, 722 00:58:31,350 --> 00:58:32,310 you're welcome. 723 00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:37,510 I'm Bill Walker, my and my wife, Charlene Friedman-Walker, live in District 3. 724 00:58:37,970 --> 00:58:43,090 And we are here to say an emphatic note to a data center in Modesto, whether it's a site 725 00:58:43,090 --> 00:58:45,330 that North Porton is eyeing or any other. 726 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:49,430 I'm retired from a career as an environmental policy analyst. 727 00:58:50,050 --> 00:58:56,850 Everything I know about toxic chemicals, water, and energy issues raises red flags about 728 00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:59,710 the scores of data centers being built nationwide. 729 00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:03,750 The evidence is abundant, well documented and I don't need to repeat it. 730 00:59:05,090 --> 00:59:11,070 But one thing that has not yet been pointed out is that these systems that run these data centers 731 00:59:11,610 --> 00:59:18,490 use the notorious forever chemicals that once you're in your body they stay in there for a lifetime. 732 00:59:19,490 --> 00:59:23,330 A Modesto focus and they of course also use huge amounts of energy. 733 00:59:23,330 --> 00:59:28,150 the focus investigation found that even a so-called small data center would use 734 00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:34,930 enough energy for 25 to 50,000 homes. But there's another issue here. Developers 735 00:59:34,930 --> 00:59:40,650 are racing to build these monstrosities behind our backs. In Gilroy, Amazon is 736 00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:45,910 completing a 400,000 square foot data center that was greenlighted without a 737 00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:51,270 single city council vote. We appreciate that here some of the council members 738 00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:57,130 have made us aware of North Point's lobbying. But ask yourself, if big tech 739 00:59:57,130 --> 00:59:58,710 goes to such links to... 740 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,300 To keep these projects secret, what is it that they don't want us to know? Data centers are built 741 01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:13,640 to power AI applications that go far beyond today's chat GPT, uses that will further divide 742 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:20,820 our society into halves and have nots. The New York Times reports that the tech lords waging 743 01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:28,020 the AI arms race believe they have only a few years to get rich before the awesome jobs 744 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:30,640 to AI creates a permanent underclass. 745 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,540 By trying to put a data center here that will employ very few people, but only create 746 01:00:37,540 --> 01:00:42,100 profits for Silicon Valley, they clearly see us as part of the underclass. 747 01:00:42,860 --> 01:00:46,720 We may not be able to stop what's coming, but we don't have to help it along. 748 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:47,940 Thank you. 749 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:48,800 You're welcome. 750 01:00:56,830 --> 01:00:58,610 Next online, we have Sam. 751 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,160 Hello. 752 01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:04,760 Can you hear me? 753 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:05,260 Yes. 754 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:05,980 We can hear you. 755 01:01:05,980 --> 01:01:17,940 Okay. Okay. I am just going to say a brief unprepared statement. I personally do not feel 756 01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:28,480 trust in Modesto's City Council. I swatched the whole thing with the mass 757 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:40,560 ordinance happened, play out last year. Several people came out to comment and expressed 758 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:51,620 their discontent with Modesto's mask ordinance. The ACLU threatened to sue the City of 759 01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:56,940 Modesto, and they're doing it now, and they've already received a preliminary injunction, 760 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,680 which is not a good sign for the beginning of Modesto's defense. 761 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,580 Not to be all-end-all, but it's not a very good sign. 762 01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:17,200 And it just reeks of that you all don't represent the people. 763 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:24,960 you're all are not establishing trust in the people and with this AI data center coming 764 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:32,880 up and you all kind of giving us wishy-washy language of oh there's no legal way for it to 765 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:40,000 happen right now but there's also two data centers already in Modesto right now and we 766 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:53,220 you're just not instilling confidence in us. We don't trust you to not put 767 01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:57,540 up a data center and I think that says a lot. Even if there's no plans to not 768 01:02:57,540 --> 01:03:02,900 put it up a data center, we do not trust you all to defend us right now. And we 769 01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:08,840 need to see that. We need to see you all defend us in this. Thank you. Right, you 770 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:09,000 Thank you so much. 771 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:09,860 You're welcome. 772 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,440 Next in person is Wendy Smith. 773 01:03:23,860 --> 01:03:23,980 Hi. 774 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,160 I am Wendy. 775 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,120 Thank you for listening to me for a few minutes. 776 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:33,780 I don't have anything prepared exactly, but I appreciate the information my fellow citizens 777 01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:34,440 have given you. 778 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:42,180 I work hard every day, so to a lot of other people who aren't here, I'm representing them because 779 01:03:42,180 --> 01:03:47,020 we work and get home and we're tired, so I really had better things to do tonight, but it 780 01:03:47,020 --> 01:03:53,580 actually became important for me to be here tonight because I was disturbed by the information 781 01:03:53,580 --> 01:03:59,900 you dropped on social media saying that you know people were calling you, bothering 782 01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:06,180 you. People were, you know, you gave us the spiel that you've given us here which is, 783 01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:11,380 you know, the code doesn't currently allow it. You understand that's not too terribly relevant 784 01:04:11,380 --> 01:04:12,720 because it can be changed. 785 01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:19,180 So I'm here to say for those of us good people that are working hard, 786 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:25,480 I encourage you in the positions that you've taken, the titles that are in front of me, 787 01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:31,800 that you work hard for us, that you put your back into representing us. 788 01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:35,020 We are here clearly saying we don't want data centers. 789 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,740 So I'm here to say, put your back into it. 790 01:04:38,740 --> 01:04:48,300 Don't be passive, stand up, speak loud, speak broadly, put into the public, what position 791 01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:55,540 you are going to take, put into the public, social media, news is here, TV may come 792 01:04:55,540 --> 01:05:03,320 asking for something, please say you will, not allow data centers to be here, please take 793 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:11,800 a position, please make that clear. I encourage you to use your role to do for us, but we can't 794 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:18,100 do as individuals to represent what we want because that is your job. I'm encouraging you 795 01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:24,680 to be strong, to be loud, take a position, make it difficult for anybody who has the idea they're 796 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,720 going to be here. Make that your PR statement you put out there. Make that what you have to say. 797 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,520 Okay, make it clear that you're going to make it difficult for anybody who thought they're 798 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,100 going to come here. 799 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,560 You're going to oppose it legally, you're going to oppose it with the code, you're going 800 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,300 to make it difficult, you're going to make it take a long time, you're going to make it 801 01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:42,920 cost a lot of money, whatever it takes. 802 01:05:43,460 --> 01:05:50,460 What I want is for you to speak for us and say for us, we don't want data centers here 803 01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:54,480 and you're going to do everything in your power to make sure it doesn't happen. 804 01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:00,260 I encourage you to do that as a citizen, as a member of this community, 805 01:06:00,740 --> 01:06:03,920 representing the other people who aren't here tonight, because they're at work working hard. 806 01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:05,780 Please work hard for us. 807 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:06,980 Thank you. 808 01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:17,680 Next I see Lee. 809 01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:23,310 Hello, hello. Can you hear me? 810 01:06:23,470 --> 01:06:24,370 Yes, we can hear you. 811 01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:33,260 All right, I am also with these swath of people voicing their concerns in regards to these data centers being built. 812 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,280 Now, I also cannot speak for your intention. 813 01:06:38,540 --> 01:06:41,560 I can only speak for what evidence we have to go off of. 814 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,640 And I can agree with many of the other community members 815 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,740 that you are not building any confidence whatsoever, 816 01:06:47,140 --> 01:06:50,060 especially with how you handled the mask ordinance, 817 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,640 how you handled the brutal assault attempted murder 818 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,520 of Carlos Fernandez. 819 01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:56,940 In the fact that you haven't launched a single investigation 820 01:06:56,940 --> 01:06:58,760 or demanded more of NPD, 821 01:06:59,180 --> 01:07:01,020 and even in your police review, 822 01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:06,540 We were not doing enough to really instill any trust that you're going to defend community 823 01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:09,620 members against this injustice, against this corruption. 824 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:16,500 However, I would like to give you the opportunity to clarify and ask this question, I hope 825 01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:17,140 not in vain. 826 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,400 What are you planning to do to honor these requests made by your community members? 827 01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:25,880 Are you guys already planning to make another meeting to hear more about our requests? 828 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:34,900 are you going to make a form that we as citizens can fill out so that you can quantify the amount of people who are against this? 829 01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:43,620 What are your guys' plans in order to honor these requests against, you know, beyond the moratorium of AI data centers? 830 01:07:43,660 --> 01:07:51,560 Because like you said, the key word and your release statement is currently there is no code allowing for the building of AI data centers. 831 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:57,080 But we also know that these, like North Point, they're very, very corrupt and they'll do 832 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:02,240 all these shady backhand deals and who knows how much they, you know, promise you'll 833 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:07,100 forget if you do side with them, but not really much are going to make if you get voted 834 01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:07,380 out. 835 01:08:08,820 --> 01:08:12,820 So, there you go, please, it's my question, is that all possible. 836 01:08:15,660 --> 01:08:16,200 Thank you. 837 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,520 Is that the end of your comments? 838 01:08:22,290 --> 01:08:23,390 Yes, it will be for now. 839 01:08:23,390 --> 01:08:25,410 All right. 840 01:08:27,460 --> 01:08:28,520 Thank you. 841 01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:31,820 This 842 01:08:34,350 --> 01:08:37,350 next person is Beverly Sullivan. 843 01:08:39,740 --> 01:08:40,960 Beverly Sullivan. 844 01:08:52,360 --> 01:09:04,800 Good evening. This is my first time at a meeting and I understand everybody's concern because it's my concern and I'm glad that my neighbors all came out in full force against the data centers. 845 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:12,060 I also want to address the flock of lights also that is an issue in our community. 846 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:21,000 Here in Modesto, I just basically want to have a nice community, be safe in my community. 847 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:27,220 Now I have to worry about water every other day, have to worry about my PG&E bill being 848 01:09:27,220 --> 01:09:27,840 too high. 849 01:09:28,020 --> 01:09:29,880 I cut back as much as I could. 850 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,540 I can't cut back anymore. 851 01:09:32,420 --> 01:09:33,580 These data centers. 852 01:09:33,580 --> 01:09:39,580 I understand it's not healthy for our community and I want a healthy community. 853 01:09:39,780 --> 01:09:46,440 I want to be able to have my grandkids here, be able to live in peace and be able to 854 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:48,580 have, be happy. 855 01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:52,940 And I'm all of, every time I turn around, it's always something going on. 856 01:09:53,560 --> 01:10:00,200 I can't rely on my politicians or my community leaders to take care of our community to make 857 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,180 Make sure that we have everything taken care of, but that's going to do a lot. 858 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:11,200 They clean our streets for us, they pick up our trash, I do appreciate that because 859 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,580 I have been to other cities where they don't no longer have streets sweeping anymore. 860 01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:24,880 And basically I just want you guys to understand, you need to take care of the community, that's 861 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,180 why we elected you, is to take care of our environment. 862 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:34,000 make sure that we have good running water electricity don't let these corporate 863 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:40,260 companies come in and take over and and just run us out over prices we can't 864 01:10:40,260 --> 01:10:46,080 afford that anymore it's not like it was in the 60s and the 70s everything is 865 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,920 more expensive and you get less we can't even go shopping everything has to be 866 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:55,260 done online and you can't even just go and pick out certain things you can't even 867 01:10:55,260 --> 01:11:00,420 go to a fabric store anymore. They're closing that down. It just came to the point where we have 868 01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:07,100 to shop for everything online and it's just getting unbearable for, especially for senior citizens. 869 01:11:08,260 --> 01:11:14,200 A lot of us, we can't just go out and do everything on the computer. We need to touch these. 870 01:11:14,860 --> 01:11:21,040 We can't just change. These data centers are changing everything for us. And also I want to address 871 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:29,940 in my neighborhood because I went in on record. I have roundabouts. We need some cross lights 872 01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:35,520 on our roundabouts. It's too dark. Kids come home from school. Cars are going really fast 873 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:40,880 around around about and they're going to end up hitting somebody. So I want to, I don't 874 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,700 know who I need to go to but I need to address having street lights for crossing in our round 875 01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:52,100 about in my neighborhood. All right. Thank you. All right. Excuse me. Alison with Connect with you. 876 01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:55,480 Thank you. 877 01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:03,800 Online, I do not see another person online. Okay. In person, Susie. 878 01:12:15,630 --> 01:12:16,850 I hate doing this. Okay. 879 01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:23,510 Thank you for listening to me. You're welcome. I did. I was reading articles and I was doing a lot 880 01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:30,310 of research for my comments tonight. But I'm still in post-sets this brain fog, so I'm just going to speak 881 01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:39,050 from the heart. I came several times to speak out against the mask ordinance because it's 882 01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:45,490 dangerous for people who speak out against our current federal regime. And I was worried 883 01:12:45,490 --> 01:12:52,170 about us going farther and farther into a surveillance state. So I was worried about 884 01:12:52,170 --> 01:12:59,570 the federal government, but look what's happening in Modesto. So we have cameras everywhere 885 01:12:59,570 --> 01:13:05,250 are now. We went from 30 to 100 very quickly. Some of them might be basic surveillance and 886 01:13:06,210 --> 01:13:11,650 license plate readers, which are bad enough, but my understanding is that for some of 887 01:13:11,650 --> 01:13:16,770 the cameras, very quickly buying the right software, they become facial recognition cameras. 888 01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:25,290 And we know that that technology is notorious for errors, especially recognizing faces of 889 01:13:25,290 --> 01:13:25,970 people of color. 890 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:36,800 So what I ask is that you carefully look at the MPD budget and don't allow 891 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,900 any more purchase of software or cameras. We have plenty. In fact, I'd like to get rid 892 01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:49,080 of them. Make sure that our data isn't being shared even accidentally through the Fox 893 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:55,980 system or any other system. So that was my main thing. But since everybody's talking about 894 01:13:55,980 --> 01:14:00,000 the data centers. I'll just take a minute to say thank you for your clarification about 895 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,620 the ordinance about data centers but municipal codes can be changed so I don't think that 896 01:14:05,620 --> 01:14:11,740 will stop them. There is too much money that can buy votes and I don't want data centers 897 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,240 here. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. 898 01:14:23,420 --> 01:14:25,320 Next is Susan Azavito. 899 01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:30,230 Yeah, I thought I saw 900 01:14:30,230 --> 01:14:30,710 her leave. 901 01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:39,560 Okay. I'll save hers until the end in case she returns. Next is Shell. 902 01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:58,700 Shelter and this is 903 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:27,340 A great opportunity. There are a lot of teachers who've spoken. A lot of people are here. It's a great opportunity to invite everybody to read extensively and understand AI, which is a brand new industry, biggest industry ever. And these data centers. 904 01:15:27,340 --> 01:15:36,600 and I won't go through all of the things that they do that are detrimental, but I would 905 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:42,940 invite you to read those things and really understand it and have the teachers invite 906 01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:49,940 their students to do the same because this is a real watershed moment what's going on 907 01:15:49,940 --> 01:16:00,100 and society. Now I've been here for almost 80 years and every single thing that is sold 908 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:10,100 to our community is always predicated by this will create jobs, jobs. Well this one's 909 01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:20,660 different, because this one eliminates them. And every day, I read about, about, about 910 01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:27,300 huge companies, and most of these guys were in the front row at the inauguration. Some 911 01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:36,940 of America's finest citizens with your interest in hearts. But anyway, they are doing things 912 01:16:36,940 --> 01:16:44,920 every day that you read where these companies just laid off 5,000 people. But they 913 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:54,560 shifted a lot of their employment who were in AI to figure out how to cut more 914 01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:04,240 jobs within their companies. That's what's going on. But it's these people have 915 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:13,060 a lot more power than we do. One of the things that they do is operate under NDAs, which 916 01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:20,680 is important to all of us here. Because in a community like ours, power is scarce. 917 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:30,020 They can make deals with the power companies. To get their volume for a cheaper price, the 918 01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,240 the cost has shifted over to us. 919 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,080 And we don't even know that. 920 01:17:34,820 --> 01:17:37,520 But these are really important issues. 921 01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:44,460 And I hope that everybody here will really read and understand 922 01:17:45,020 --> 01:17:48,460 what the stuff is before you make any decisions. 923 01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:49,560 Thank you. 924 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:50,700 Thank you. 925 01:17:53,130 --> 01:17:53,690 Yep. 926 01:17:54,230 --> 01:17:55,170 Mm-hmm. 927 01:17:55,910 --> 01:17:56,570 Excuse me. 928 01:17:56,690 --> 01:17:59,070 Next is Luis Campos Garcia. 929 01:18:04,970 --> 01:18:06,010 Good evening, everyone. 930 01:18:06,010 --> 01:18:16,670 I am a modest resident working in the creative industry and I'm here to express my concern about the possibility of data center being in 931 01:18:16,670 --> 01:18:30,310 study here in Modesto. People have expressed already many of those concerns about the environmental impact, the cost of utilities and I am also concerned because 932 01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:39,730 Because these AI-run centers, AI technology was created on a stolen work, the work on many 933 01:18:39,730 --> 01:18:46,530 creatives like myself, artists, designers, photographers, filmmakers, musicians, performers, 934 01:18:47,150 --> 01:18:55,030 writers, researchers, the work was used to train these AI, and that is not something that 935 01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:58,130 is creating more jobs for the creative industry, 936 01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:01,630 to the contrary, it's creating jobs all around California. 937 01:19:02,530 --> 01:19:09,870 And the creative industry is one of the principal money 938 01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:11,310 producers here in California. 939 01:19:11,570 --> 01:19:13,290 We want to keep it that way. 940 01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:19,450 And also taking care of what is left of the natural resources 941 01:19:19,450 --> 01:19:23,450 that we have here in California, in Modesto, 942 01:19:23,450 --> 01:19:27,930 Also, especially since we have one of the main rivers running here in California to 943 01:19:27,930 --> 01:19:34,230 all me river going, running through this city, and how we're going to keep these resources 944 01:19:34,230 --> 01:19:36,070 for the future generations. 945 01:19:36,770 --> 01:19:37,270 Thank you. 946 01:19:37,650 --> 01:19:37,970 You're welcome. 947 01:19:38,990 --> 01:19:47,470 Just the last thing, I am supporting a moratorium at least for no data centers here in Modesto 948 01:19:47,470 --> 01:19:48,710 and Van will be better. 949 01:19:49,170 --> 01:19:49,690 Thank you. 950 01:19:49,950 --> 01:19:50,330 You're welcome. 951 01:19:50,330 --> 01:19:51,570 That 952 01:19:53,580 --> 01:19:57,380 is Leah Huffett. 953 01:20:07,950 --> 01:20:08,350 Hi there. 954 01:20:09,210 --> 01:20:10,890 Thanks for the time. 955 01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:18,090 Say noted data centers for these reasons. 956 01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:24,110 It's well known that data centers are unhealthy for humans and other living things. 957 01:20:24,850 --> 01:20:29,990 AI for which many data centers are built is a poison that displaces workers. 958 01:20:30,610 --> 01:20:35,810 A.I. is dangerous for the world, and many A.I. scientists are afraid of A.I. itself. 959 01:20:37,630 --> 01:20:43,230 A.I. is part of the military industrial monster creating robots for battle and 960 01:20:43,230 --> 01:20:46,890 computers who kill and who knows what else. 961 01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:55,740 No regular American benefits from A.I. only the very rich. 962 01:20:55,860 --> 01:20:59,760 Maybe data centers belong in their swimming pools over in Menlo Park and 963 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,560 surrounding communities, keeps that garbage out of the valley. 964 01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:06,420 We need to protect this land and our communities. 965 01:21:08,940 --> 01:21:15,860 Second and moratorium in a ban is necessary now and forever as far as I'm concerned. 966 01:21:20,590 --> 01:21:26,890 I need complete complete information that's easily understood on how to easily 967 01:21:26,890 --> 01:21:32,250 be surveilled and keep up to date on the status of any data center is that is planned, 968 01:21:32,650 --> 01:21:41,330 discussed, even thought about, and I expect that from you all because as it's been stated 969 01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:45,370 before, it is very hard to trust and no trust has been established. 970 01:21:45,370 --> 01:21:56,150 And also I just need it and no legal ease should be should be used when expressing any plans 971 01:21:56,150 --> 01:22:02,670 or anything. This includes any opportunity to comment, weigh in, anything at all. 972 01:22:04,210 --> 01:22:10,430 So, this public participation is amazing and I'm impressed and humbled by how smart 973 01:22:10,430 --> 01:22:18,370 everybody is that's spoken before and I just am amazed and just yes. Also, a band should 974 01:22:18,370 --> 01:22:22,670 have been an automatic no-brainer without us saying anything because 975 01:22:25,010 --> 01:22:29,050 you're our elected 976 01:22:29,050 --> 01:22:33,470 representatives and if you think about what our needs and wants are, you're going to 977 01:22:33,470 --> 01:22:41,250 know that this is anti-person, anti-human, anti-regular person, AI, and a data center, especially. 978 01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:50,610 And I probably have one more. Oh, keep in mind, this is not a partisan issue or 979 01:22:50,610 --> 01:22:51,670 our left and right issue. 980 01:22:52,010 --> 01:22:54,550 Pretty much all the people are in agreement, 981 01:22:54,770 --> 01:22:56,490 so you're not going to be able to divide us 982 01:22:56,490 --> 01:22:58,430 and neither is anybody else anywhere. 983 01:23:00,090 --> 01:23:00,370 Thank you. 984 01:23:06,010 --> 01:23:08,490 Next is Teresa Gamboa. 985 01:23:18,850 --> 01:23:22,570 Good evening, mayors, Wallen, council, members, 986 01:23:23,710 --> 01:23:26,890 city managers, city attorney, and members of the public. 987 01:23:26,890 --> 01:23:28,570 My name is Teresa Gamboa. 988 01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:31,550 I'm the chairwoman of Woodland West Community Neighborhood 989 01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:33,250 and I'm a neighborhood watch leader. 990 01:23:33,250 --> 01:23:36,150 Thank you for allowing me to speak tonight. 991 01:23:37,090 --> 01:23:43,290 I wanted to thank you, Mayor Zualin, and Council Member Alvarez, and Council Member Ricky 992 01:23:43,290 --> 01:23:47,490 for coming to my National Night Out event last Tuesday night. 993 01:23:48,490 --> 01:23:52,030 It meant a lot to me, and it meant a lot to our neighbors. 994 01:23:53,310 --> 01:23:55,350 As you know, it's my favorite day of the year. 995 01:23:57,170 --> 01:24:00,510 174 of us gathered that night for a food and fun. 996 01:24:00,510 --> 01:24:03,370 It was a great evening despite the heat. 997 01:24:04,270 --> 01:24:08,110 I would also like to thank our assistant city managers. 998 01:24:10,090 --> 01:24:13,050 Sonia, Chief Gillespie, Captain Meredith, 999 01:24:13,730 --> 01:24:15,090 all the lieutenants who came. 1000 01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:19,210 The CSI unit came and that's always a big hit with the kids. 1001 01:24:19,570 --> 01:24:22,210 It's a very interesting unit and they love it. 1002 01:24:22,690 --> 01:24:24,990 I want to thank the Modesto Fire Department. 1003 01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:30,070 The kids love the firefighters and they love exploring their truck. 1004 01:24:30,850 --> 01:24:36,350 Our next event will be Family Fund Day on Saturday, September 19th. 1005 01:24:36,350 --> 01:24:39,910 I don't have a flyer yet, but I'm hoping that some of you will come. 1006 01:24:40,230 --> 01:24:41,650 It's a fun event, right? 1007 01:24:42,970 --> 01:24:48,070 So it seems that everybody is united against data centers and 1008 01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:49,490 maybe an over farmland. 1009 01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:51,510 But thank you for hearing me. 1010 01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:52,430 Have a nice evening. 1011 01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:53,210 Thank you. 1012 01:24:54,730 --> 01:24:56,790 Next is Steve. 1013 01:25:05,980 --> 01:25:06,700 Thank you. 1014 01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:07,100 Thank you. 1015 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,160 I just want to start by reminding you. 1016 01:25:15,540 --> 01:25:17,880 I don't know if you guys know this, but we're in a relationship. 1017 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:22,240 I didn't like, you know, change my Facebook status or anything. 1018 01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:27,620 But you are supposed to be for us. 1019 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:34,780 You should think of us as Bay, which stands for, what is it again, beyond ever? 1020 01:25:34,940 --> 01:25:35,880 I haven't actually. 1021 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,620 Yeah, I know that. 1022 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,240 Trust me. 1023 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:38,660 I knew that. 1024 01:25:38,660 --> 01:25:47,620 Okay, but I wanted to say that I remember when you guys approved, as you always do, Brennan's 1025 01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:54,200 requests, Brennan's demands, basically. I remember when Flot King Modesto, 1026 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,360 and I remember what was going through my mind, and it was discouraging, and I thought, 1027 01:25:58,460 --> 01:26:04,620 well, hell, we've been coming down to City Hall every week for months to beg you to stop your 1028 01:26:04,620 --> 01:26:09,860 their cops from murdering us, and you cited with the animals in the back of the room because 1029 01:26:09,860 --> 01:26:11,800 that's just how you are. 1030 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,680 You're not Doc Holliday, Chris. 1031 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:16,880 That was a nice, nice try. 1032 01:26:19,810 --> 01:26:23,550 This is about, it was mentioned earlier tonight. 1033 01:26:24,210 --> 01:26:28,130 This is about the haves and the have-nots, okay? 1034 01:26:29,190 --> 01:26:37,810 The reason that there was not a big reaction to when you guys started the flock contract 1035 01:26:37,810 --> 01:26:40,970 when that went into play is because nobody knew about it. 1036 01:26:41,310 --> 01:26:46,130 I didn't know, but I remember thinking that song going to go well, but I mean, I was already 1037 01:26:46,130 --> 01:26:49,170 thinking, I got to go home, I got to get away from these monsters. 1038 01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:55,430 It's very stressful to come down here and plead with my political leaders to give a damn 1039 01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:56,510 about human life. 1040 01:26:56,510 --> 01:27:01,050 and I don't even have time to go into all the nonsense. 1041 01:27:01,870 --> 01:27:04,510 You threatening me, telling me to meet you 1042 01:27:04,510 --> 01:27:07,490 in the parking garage, Mr. Bavaro, you clown, 1043 01:27:08,970 --> 01:27:11,370 still witnessing it and branding witnessing it. 1044 01:27:12,170 --> 01:27:14,450 You guys talk all the time about trust. 1045 01:27:15,090 --> 01:27:18,650 This is a wonderful opportunity for you guys to build trust. 1046 01:27:19,290 --> 01:27:22,990 Who would like to motion that we put 1047 01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:26,730 ending the city's contract with flock on an agenda? 1048 01:27:26,730 --> 01:27:30,090 Let me read this really quick because I know how much you like to lie about the Brown 1049 01:27:30,090 --> 01:27:30,590 Act, Sue. 1050 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,740 Public comment period, three minute blah, blah, blah, okay. 1051 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:43,300 Council members may respond in matters being presented under this item, only as follows. 1052 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,520 Briefly respond to statements made or questions raised. 1053 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:53,260 Ask a question for clarification, provide a reference to staff, or other resources for factual 1054 01:27:53,260 --> 01:27:53,900 information. 1055 01:27:53,900 --> 01:28:01,180 D, says request staff to report back at a subsequent meeting, and E, finally, a council member 1056 01:28:01,180 --> 01:28:06,940 or the council itself may take action to direct staff to place a matter of business on a 1057 01:28:06,940 --> 01:28:13,020 future agenda. Which one of you has the co-honies to go ahead and motion that you put on the 1058 01:28:13,020 --> 01:28:19,860 agenda discussion in the contract with Flock and to make a moratorium to on data centers 1059 01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:20,920 There's not being filmed, has still. 1060 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,340 Who is going to step up? 1061 01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:25,640 I know you're farming likes. 1062 01:28:25,780 --> 01:28:27,020 You're out there trying to get fans. 1063 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,240 Chris, why don't you be the one? 1064 01:28:29,180 --> 01:28:29,840 Step up. 1065 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:31,200 All right. 1066 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,100 Who's going to do it? 1067 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:33,300 All right. 1068 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:34,380 Who's it going to be? 1069 01:28:34,980 --> 01:28:35,260 All right. 1070 01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:37,080 Who's it going to be? 1071 01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:40,260 Next is Sean. 1072 01:28:42,300 --> 01:28:42,440 Sean. 1073 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:43,020 Next. 1074 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:44,860 Excuse me. 1075 01:28:44,980 --> 01:28:45,240 Sean. 1076 01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:49,130 Sean. 1077 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:51,840 Okay. 1078 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:52,540 All right. 1079 01:28:52,540 --> 01:28:55,960 We'll get the online person next after this person in person. 1080 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:09,460 Hi there. 1081 01:29:09,940 --> 01:29:10,720 I am Sean OK. 1082 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,220 I'm 20 years old. 1083 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,500 And I've lived in Modesto my entire life. 1084 01:29:17,510 --> 01:29:20,870 And we were in drought for most of my adolescence. 1085 01:29:22,490 --> 01:29:29,270 In no complex terms, a North Point Data Center will kill Modesto. 1086 01:29:30,050 --> 01:29:33,290 We don't have the water resources to uphold them. 1087 01:29:33,290 --> 01:29:45,430 And it's not even about the water it uses, it's the water that we can't get back from a data center, because these companies don't just use water to cool their server rooms. 1088 01:29:45,790 --> 01:29:50,610 They treat the water with chemicals that they don't take out before they put it back in the water supply. 1089 01:29:50,610 --> 01:29:58,710 And those chemicals make the water unusable for humans, for animals, for plants, which means we can't use it. 1090 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,020 To water our crops. Modesto is, as you know, an agricultural town. We need the water for our crops, or else this town will die. 1091 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:32,360 And I honestly find it frankly disturbing and insulting to the heart of Modesto, the soul of Modesto, a town full of art and diversity and community, for to be even a consideration for an AI data center to be built 1092 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:40,980 in this town, which AI is antithetical to every principle that supports human art. 1093 01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:50,420 And I am also frankly disappointed in my city council and in my mayor that this is the 1094 01:30:50,420 --> 01:30:57,940 first city council meeting I've been to and barely any of you have managed to answer 1095 01:30:57,940 --> 01:31:02,500 any of our questions that we've posed to you because I'm sure you all know 1096 01:31:02,500 --> 01:31:05,100 what a damning non-answer means. 1097 01:31:07,690 --> 01:31:11,710 And finally, I'd like to address the presence 1098 01:31:11,710 --> 01:31:18,590 of flock cameras in our community. As my former high school psych teacher 1099 01:31:18,590 --> 01:31:24,450 already showed you the importance of stories, I'm going to tell you where the 1100 01:31:24,450 --> 01:31:31,790 word Palantir comes from. It comes from a story written in the 50s by J.R.R. Tolkien. The 1101 01:31:31,790 --> 01:31:41,270 Palantir is the magic orb that the evil wizard Sauron uses to spy on the 1102 01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:47,710 protagonists, the fellowship of the ring, in this story. And Sauron is also the 1103 01:31:47,710 --> 01:31:51,670 one who clear cuts forests to fuel his forges of war. 1104 01:31:54,380 --> 01:31:55,420 I yield the rest of my time. 1105 01:31:55,420 --> 01:31:57,780 We will 1106 01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:11,160 hear from one more person online and then we will take a break, which I will 1107 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:11,420 announce. 1108 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,760 Next is Lydia Online. 1109 01:32:18,550 --> 01:32:19,770 Good evening, city councilmembers. 1110 01:32:20,130 --> 01:32:24,250 My name is Lydia and I have lived in Modesto all of my life. 1111 01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:28,970 This is the first city council meeting I've ever been to, like the previous speaker. 1112 01:32:29,630 --> 01:32:33,610 I'm here to express my concern with the possibility of a data center being built in Modesto. 1113 01:32:33,610 --> 01:32:38,370 So, currently there is talk of one possibly being built on graphics up new or graphics 1114 01:32:38,370 --> 01:32:41,950 drive, which is less than a mile from where my family and I live. 1115 01:32:42,650 --> 01:32:45,850 Data centers consume vast amounts of water to cool their cooling equipment. 1116 01:32:46,150 --> 01:32:49,670 Will the millions of gallons of water for this data center be imported? 1117 01:32:50,130 --> 01:32:52,410 No, they're going to come from our water supply. 1118 01:32:52,810 --> 01:32:57,810 The water supply, the community, the supply that is very much limited, so limited in fact 1119 01:32:57,810 --> 01:33:01,550 that the city of Modesto has a watering schedule for as long as I can remember. 1120 01:33:01,550 --> 01:33:06,650 With Modesto already rationing and trying to reduce water consumption, it's irresponsible 1121 01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:10,850 and unethical to allow a data center to drain our water supply. 1122 01:33:11,230 --> 01:33:17,130 A direct quote from the City website is, conserving water year round and help reduce the effects 1123 01:33:17,130 --> 01:33:18,610 of drought in our daily lives. 1124 01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:24,090 Consuming less water on average minimizes water waste and protects our underground aquifers. 1125 01:33:24,910 --> 01:33:30,570 So having a data center in Modesto using millions of gallons of water would, by that statement, 1126 01:33:30,570 --> 01:33:34,810 increase the effect of drought in our lives, increase water waste and 1127 01:33:34,810 --> 01:33:38,890 endanger our underground aquifers. I also want to express concern over the 1128 01:33:38,890 --> 01:33:42,490 statement that was issued on August 6 claiming that data centers are not 1129 01:33:42,490 --> 01:33:47,150 allowed land use under the city's municipal code. However, if that's true, why are 1130 01:33:47,150 --> 01:33:51,430 there already two small data centers in Modesto? In fact, both of them are on 1131 01:33:51,430 --> 01:33:56,730 this street. Ayara technology is just two blocks away. So if that statement tried to 1132 01:33:56,730 --> 01:34:00,870 calm community concerns, it was unsure when honestly made me even more concerned. 1133 01:34:01,290 --> 01:34:05,730 Either it was ignorance about the data centers here, or was intentionally misleading. 1134 01:34:06,230 --> 01:34:07,630 I hope it was not the latter. 1135 01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:13,010 Despite there already being two small data centers here, their primarily network facilities. 1136 01:34:13,570 --> 01:34:18,850 But most importantly, they're tiny in comparison to the 20 acre area at graphics drive that 1137 01:34:18,850 --> 01:34:20,210 North Point is interested in. 1138 01:34:20,770 --> 01:34:25,330 They're trying to build a data center 25 to 50 megawatts, which would use the same amount 1139 01:34:25,330 --> 01:34:29,110 of energy as 25,000 to 50,000 homes. 1140 01:34:29,410 --> 01:34:31,850 We do not have the capacity to power that. 1141 01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:34,690 We barely have the capacity to power the buildings 1142 01:34:34,690 --> 01:34:35,590 we already have. 1143 01:34:35,970 --> 01:34:38,790 In fact, last week, MID was offering a discount 1144 01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:41,050 to those who reduced their energy consumption 1145 01:34:41,050 --> 01:34:42,250 during peak hours. 1146 01:34:42,990 --> 01:34:44,350 If a data center were to be built, 1147 01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:46,530 it would stress our energy infrastructure 1148 01:34:46,990 --> 01:34:49,790 causing power outages and higher energy prices for us. 1149 01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:53,150 There is absolutely no public benefit to data centers, 1150 01:34:53,150 --> 01:34:57,350 and it is your responsibility to not allow this to happen to our community. 1151 01:34:57,970 --> 01:35:00,710 Please do the right thing and be on the right side of history. 1152 01:35:01,230 --> 01:35:01,570 Thank you. 1153 01:35:01,870 --> 01:35:02,430 You're welcome. 1154 01:35:04,950 --> 01:35:05,250 All right. 1155 01:35:06,010 --> 01:35:10,890 We will take a eight-minute break and return at 7-10 pm. 1156 01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:11,690 Thank you. 1157 01:43:41,550 --> 01:43:42,610 We'll resume the meeting. 1158 01:43:44,110 --> 01:43:47,470 In a person, I have Sophia O'Hara. 1159 01:44:05,420 --> 01:44:09,000 I'm here in opposition of the potential Modesto AI Data Center. 1160 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:14,520 I oppose AI data centers in whole, but I especially believe that AI data center in the 1161 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:21,240 Central Valley would be particularly catastrophic and would be counterproductive in all ways. 1162 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:28,000 AI data centers suck up immense amounts of clean drinking water, which would dry up all 1163 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:33,300 of the agricultural crops that make up the Central Valley, which is already a heavily 1164 01:44:33,300 --> 01:44:34,420 drought-prone area. 1165 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:41,320 This would ruin both farms and the life that inhabit them, therefore dwindling 1166 01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:45,580 produce output from the central valley to the rest of the country and to its 1167 01:44:45,580 --> 01:44:55,600 community. All life in the central valley would be deprived of drinking water, you, I, and everyone we know, you will neglect 1168 01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,700 In fact, in paulvers' neighborhoods first, as Paul said, 1169 01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:14,320 I urge the council to heed to these warnings. We are not asking. We are demanding. 1170 01:45:54,860 --> 01:45:56,180 Yes, just when you said hello. 1171 01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,460 Okay, sorry about that. 1172 01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,520 I am, I have a little bit of a different opinion. 1173 01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:05,180 I was going to share tonight. 1174 01:46:06,980 --> 01:46:13,300 Like for my understanding, we've gotten a letter of just asking. 1175 01:46:16,580 --> 01:46:21,080 And with all due respect, I mean, I understand everyone has legitimate concerns, 1176 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:26,600 power noise water. Those are all legitimate concerns. But we haven't even heard 1177 01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:33,880 anything yet. It's like you know like if someone comes to you and says gee we've 1178 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:41,360 got you've got a piece of property that we could use and we can pay you for I 1179 01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:46,580 mean there's I mean again there's legitimate concerns but we haven't heard 1180 01:46:46,580 --> 01:46:57,500 anything for anybody. And if you, I mean, everyone's predicting doom and gloom as the end of the world, and you haven't even seen a proposal yet. 1181 01:46:58,220 --> 01:47:12,140 So, so I would just say, you know, keeping open mind technology. I mean, I've been around a long time. I watched and put a man on the moon. And, you know, here we are today. 1182 01:47:12,140 --> 01:47:21,280 technology is not going to stop going forward. It's scary, but it's going to happen. And so 1183 01:47:22,660 --> 01:47:30,560 my opinion is just this. Keep it open mind. I mean, someone sent a letter and said just 1184 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:37,320 they're curious. Get a proposal. What do they say? How much water are they going to use? 1185 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:42,120 How much 1186 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:48,060 bring your own power, bring your own water, have them come up with the solutions, and so, 1187 01:47:48,580 --> 01:47:53,940 or we have what's 40, 50 acres sitting on the side of the freeway, 1188 01:47:55,400 --> 01:48:00,060 that's where they want to put where they have old FMC, or that there was a plan there, 1189 01:48:01,060 --> 01:48:06,100 what's, it's just going to sit for another 40 years, with it not being used, anyway, 1190 01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:11,620 Okay, keep an open mind, and that's my opinion. 1191 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:12,300 Thanks. 1192 01:48:12,900 --> 01:48:13,280 You're welcome. 1193 01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,400 Next is Victor. 1194 01:48:17,380 --> 01:48:18,660 In person, Victor? 1195 01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:27,360 Hi. Can you hear me with us? 1196 01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:27,700 Yes. 1197 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:32,960 So I actually wrote a bunch of numbers down here, and I realized that they're going to be rather 1198 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:37,580 used to this because, you know, people all over the country were coming to talk about data centers. 1199 01:48:37,580 --> 01:48:40,460 You know, there are billions of gallons of water going to be used. 1200 01:48:40,620 --> 01:48:41,840 People are going to be without power. 1201 01:48:42,300 --> 01:48:43,640 All these spaces are going to be taken up. 1202 01:48:43,740 --> 01:48:46,080 But I want to talk a little bit about something personal that I have. 1203 01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,380 I heard there's a lot of teachers here. 1204 01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:49,700 A couple came up and spoke. 1205 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,080 My myself, I'm not, I'm a full-time student. 1206 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,040 I'm working on a history degree. 1207 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,240 I graduate in Minnesota Junior College just this next coming semester. 1208 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:00,860 And I don't know where I want to go after that. 1209 01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:05,200 But speaking of someone who has always been very interested in history 1210 01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:10,000 you and someone who cares a lot about it, I don't want to have to teach my future students, 1211 01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:14,040 someone at either college level or anything like that, that, you know, we're all coming 1212 01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:18,320 out today in council meetings all across the country and here in Modesto especially, 1213 01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:23,020 that our voices don't matter. You know, I don't want to have to teach my students that all 1214 01:49:23,020 --> 01:49:28,680 of us are coming here, time out of our day, and we're wasting our time basically, and I, you 1215 01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,620 know, I have things that I need to be doing, I need to research what college I want to 1216 01:49:31,620 --> 01:49:37,340 go to what grants I need to do, my mom, she's at home, another thing about the jobs 1217 01:49:37,340 --> 01:49:41,640 that allegedly everyone's going to create, even jobs out here now don't pay 1218 01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,980 enough. My mom has to travel all the way to Santa Clara in Sacramento just to make 1219 01:49:45,980 --> 01:49:49,820 enough money for the rising bills that we have to pay. One of the numbers I did 1220 01:49:49,820 --> 01:49:57,540 actually ride down was our electric bill from the City of Modesto, July was 176 and 1221 01:49:57,540 --> 01:50:05,280 now in August has been 200, MID has changed from June of $133 to $217 in just a month. 1222 01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:10,260 So I want to know, obviously I'm not asking a question because I have seen that questions 1223 01:50:10,260 --> 01:50:17,860 do not get us anywhere today, but I want to, you know, why do we, as a community anywhere 1224 01:50:17,860 --> 01:50:24,980 in either Modesto, in any place in the United States, do we have to pay for the data centers? 1225 01:50:24,980 --> 01:50:26,940 Why do our bills have to go out? 1226 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:33,060 Why does our fear of losing power, of water, of time, and energy of our future jobs? 1227 01:50:33,460 --> 01:50:38,260 I don't want to have to go to whatever school I have and worry about a faulty AI, because 1228 01:50:38,260 --> 01:50:39,780 a lot of these things are failing. 1229 01:50:40,220 --> 01:50:45,320 Every iteration of chat GBT is getting worse and worse, it's getting more inaccurate. 1230 01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:53,260 I'm having to worry about the AI checkers for plagiarism, worrying those numbers are going 1231 01:50:53,260 --> 01:50:56,800 a climate law and that I'm going to have to talk to my teachers, hey, I didn't use 1232 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:56,980 this. 1233 01:50:57,140 --> 01:51:00,580 I'm just talking differently that may, you know, come up with the millions and millions 1234 01:51:00,580 --> 01:51:02,520 of words they are putting into data centers. 1235 01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:07,560 And it's going to suck that all of us are, you know, with the mass mandate and everything 1236 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,460 that our voices don't mean anything. 1237 01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,340 And that hurts to think about. 1238 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:17,820 I'm already terrified to, you know, go outside as a meeting I have both here and I'm 1239 01:51:17,820 --> 01:51:25,620 I'm from Fremont, and it's something to matter, and I really hope that you do consider 1240 01:51:25,620 --> 01:51:29,740 a ban really, and stand up for the people that you represent. 1241 01:51:30,020 --> 01:51:30,220 Thank you. 1242 01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:30,780 You're welcome. 1243 01:51:36,570 --> 01:51:38,270 Next online is Tim. 1244 01:51:42,430 --> 01:51:42,750 Hello. 1245 01:51:42,930 --> 01:51:43,370 Can you hear me? 1246 01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:43,690 Yes. 1247 01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:44,410 We can hear you. 1248 01:51:45,450 --> 01:51:45,610 All right. 1249 01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:46,050 Thank you. 1250 01:51:46,350 --> 01:51:52,570 I wasn't anticipating responding to a prior comment, but I do want to just say to Jim's 1251 01:51:52,570 --> 01:51:54,090 point about open minds. 1252 01:51:54,670 --> 01:52:04,120 These are not unfounded opinions. We've seen this play out across the country, so I don't want us to get hoodwinked because we had open minds. 1253 01:52:05,260 --> 01:52:13,500 And to be frank, if it's that vacant, that would actually be a better case for the city of Modesto and for its residents to be perfectly honest. 1254 01:52:13,900 --> 01:52:24,340 But that's not what I actually wanted to say. We've talked a lot here. I actually was there in person and I came home because it was actually a little bit easier to join and give comment via Zoom. 1255 01:52:24,340 --> 01:52:31,460 And the upshot that a lot of people have said is that if we are not heard, then we're 1256 01:52:31,460 --> 01:52:32,160 going to vote you out. 1257 01:52:32,660 --> 01:52:33,760 We're going to vote you out. 1258 01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:37,460 And I want to stress you that this is not about electability, this is about livability. 1259 01:52:38,620 --> 01:52:49,220 And you are now presiding over a town with rising costs, with progressive heatwaves, with 1260 01:52:49,220 --> 01:52:51,500 illegal detentions and abductions of our neighbors. 1261 01:52:52,140 --> 01:52:56,600 and now with flock cameras everywhere surveillance state at a potential data 1262 01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:02,080 center that crosses the line and makes Modesto not livable and if you think 1263 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:08,600 you can make a town not livable for 250 plus thousand people and that will 1264 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:14,920 wait for two years until we have to vote you out that's not how it works we will 1265 01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,580 not be friendly to you in this town we will not want you here anymore we're 1266 01:53:18,580 --> 01:53:20,000 We're not going to smile at you at the store. 1267 01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:22,560 We're not going to wave to you when we drive by. 1268 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:29,880 I'm not going to, you know, I can imagine kids might be shut. 1269 01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:31,080 It's not going to be good. 1270 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,260 You all have jobs and families to live with and protect. 1271 01:53:36,620 --> 01:53:39,020 You all have a community to look after. 1272 01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,880 And if you cannot look after us, we do not have an obligation 1273 01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,420 to make Modesto possible to you. 1274 01:53:45,900 --> 01:53:46,240 Thank you. 1275 01:53:51,870 --> 01:53:57,150 In person is Kelly, Kelly, Kelly 1276 01:54:02,940 --> 01:54:03,360 here. 1277 01:54:04,260 --> 01:54:07,420 I don't see anyone coming forward, so I'll. 1278 01:54:07,860 --> 01:54:09,100 Okay, all right. 1279 01:54:09,740 --> 01:54:10,320 Welcome. 1280 01:54:14,140 --> 01:54:15,880 I've loved having the children here. 1281 01:54:16,100 --> 01:54:17,040 Thank you. 1282 01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:19,540 I'm very, very proud to have them here. 1283 01:54:19,660 --> 01:54:21,200 Hi, my name is Kelly Gepley. 1284 01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,420 I'm a Modesto resident long time grew up here. 1285 01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,320 My, I believe my district is district two. 1286 01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:36,690 And there's been a lot of things that have been said that I really don't want to repeat. 1287 01:54:37,610 --> 01:54:43,310 I do want to say that my son is a huge, huge, both of them are huge fans of Paw Patrol. 1288 01:54:44,590 --> 01:54:50,270 And whenever I talk about the things that are going on, all of the bad things, 1289 01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:55,250 what he says is, mom, we have to go talk to the mayor. 1290 01:54:56,110 --> 01:55:00,930 because in Paw Patrol the mayor can help fix the problem. 1291 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:08,980 So I would like to 1292 01:55:08,980 --> 01:55:14,240 propose to you guys, I have a very simple question, how are you going to help 1293 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:18,780 protect us from the potential travesty that is going to be happening. 1294 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:32,720 It 1295 01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,480 doesn't have to just be to the mayor. I know that I said that like you're the 1296 01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:40,160 person to protect us, but it's opened everyone. How are you guys going to help 1297 01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:40,920 protect us. 1298 01:55:56,490 --> 01:55:57,050 Okay. 1299 01:56:03,230 --> 01:56:13,350 I understand that. I've got a minute and 23 seconds left, so I'm just gonna leave it open if anyone else would like to respond. 1300 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,620 You can talk to them if you want, right here? 1301 01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:55,020 Hello, hello, there are some people who really need us, and so we really need, we 1302 01:56:55,020 --> 01:57:00,820 I think the grandma said, because some people are getting killed. 1303 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:09,520 And kids now are getting alone. 1304 01:57:11,620 --> 01:57:13,780 So just with, I'm so sorry to interrupt you as well. 1305 01:57:14,140 --> 01:57:14,740 Thank you for sharing. 1306 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:22,820 So I just want to confirm with the last 14 seconds that no one has any response that they would like to give on how they're going to protect us. 1307 01:57:22,820 --> 01:57:28,000 I have eight seconds left so I'm gonna adjust. Thank you 1308 01:57:32,190 --> 01:57:34,050 very much for your non-responsive. 1309 01:57:40,220 --> 01:57:44,910 Online we have Samantha, Beth, online. 1310 01:57:50,140 --> 01:57:56,940 Hello. Hi, so I've been kind of forming my opinion 1311 01:57:56,940 --> 01:58:03,600 throughout this meeting because I've been number one, I do only address that I think it's 1312 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:07,580 really beautiful that everyone's been coming together into this meeting to speak on our 1313 01:58:07,580 --> 01:58:14,280 community's behalf. And it just kind of shows that we still have hope for the situation. 1314 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:18,180 And we're trying to like protect our community and preserve it and improve it. 1315 01:58:18,380 --> 01:58:21,740 Instead of just giving up and letting this happen, you know, like we're trying to make sure it doesn't 1316 01:58:21,740 --> 01:58:30,720 happen. So I think one thing that I've noticed is that you guys have been not very like, 1317 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:38,540 You're not a stronghold for us, you know. You're being like, as of right now, we'd like an ad an AIS center could not be built here 1318 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:44,940 But what we need is we need a strong no. We need it to be clear that it's not happening because 1319 01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:51,620 These companies when they get wishy-washy answers, they know they can come back and they can keep asking and they could say, 1320 01:58:51,700 --> 01:58:53,380 Hey, let me build it here. Let me build it here 1321 01:58:53,380 --> 01:58:56,840 And then they'll give you some money and then you'll go well that money sounds really nice 1322 01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,040 And so you're going to say yes, and then it happens. 1323 01:58:59,700 --> 01:59:01,780 So what we need is a straight no. 1324 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:05,200 No and AI data center would never be built here. 1325 01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,860 In fact, we're going to make rules that make it impossible. 1326 01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:11,520 I think you guys are here. 1327 01:59:12,620 --> 01:59:15,160 You know, you're doing a job where we need you to be our voice 1328 01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:16,480 and we need you to be our will. 1329 01:59:17,140 --> 01:59:18,960 And you're seeing all of these people come together 1330 01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,620 and talk about how something is really scary 1331 01:59:21,620 --> 01:59:25,200 and it would be bad for our community and our environment. 1332 01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,680 and you know what the will of the people is. 1333 01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:30,700 If you were to do anything other than what they're asking right now, 1334 01:59:31,100 --> 01:59:33,500 you are not doing your job and you're not fulfilling your purpose. 1335 01:59:38,140 --> 01:59:40,880 I think that's about all I have to say, actually, I use my time. 1336 01:59:41,900 --> 01:59:42,520 Thank you. 1337 01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:45,140 Next, Ms. B. 1338 01:59:53,900 --> 01:59:54,900 Ms. B. 1339 02:00:04,850 --> 02:00:19,310 I also have a question for you, Sue, but you'll probably stare at me with indifference. Can I hand one of these? Can I have 10 for each? Am I allowed to do that with you guys like one of these? No, I don't think so. Okay. 1340 02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:30,730 Here we have, I'm here for a different issue today, even though I do agree with everybody 1341 02:00:30,730 --> 02:00:31,510 about the data centers. 1342 02:00:32,810 --> 02:00:38,930 Is officer Halbrick, excuse me, in the house officer, I know the roles too. 1343 02:00:39,610 --> 02:00:42,290 You don't, because we're asking you questions and you're not answering. 1344 02:00:42,990 --> 02:00:43,610 I know the roles. 1345 02:00:43,610 --> 02:00:50,850 I was asking for officer Habrik, because I see some officers back here. 1346 02:00:51,930 --> 02:01:00,350 My fur nephew is being put to death, or probably put to death by the city of Modesto, and 1347 02:01:00,350 --> 02:01:10,750 the investigation that they are using to murder this dog consists of one, two, three, 1348 02:01:10,750 --> 02:01:18,770 four, five, six lines. That is the entirety of officer 1349 02:01:18,770 --> 02:01:21,390 Hobricks investigation. 1350 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:26,580 You guys are willing to take a dog's 1351 02:01:26,580 --> 02:01:33,140 life based on six fucking lines. I know the rules too. 1352 02:01:33,620 --> 02:01:42,520 I know the rules. Thank you. Based on six lines, the officer, 1353 02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:48,240 he openly admitted to stating that he did not investigate further because he assumed 1354 02:01:48,700 --> 02:01:51,340 and what do we say about assumptions, right? 1355 02:01:51,780 --> 02:01:56,620 He assumed Oakdale PD would take up the rest of the investigation. 1356 02:01:57,420 --> 02:01:58,540 So he did not. 1357 02:01:59,180 --> 02:02:03,940 Let me get through this real quick, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association, 1358 02:02:04,260 --> 02:02:07,260 56.3 million US households are proud of PUP owners. 1359 02:02:07,260 --> 02:02:13,700 That's over 40% of U.S. homes, statistically speaking, for over 4 of you are a dog owners, 1360 02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:19,500 so y'all should understand how imperative these family members are to the average household. 1361 02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:22,920 I already went over how Rick's been competent to investigation. 1362 02:02:23,900 --> 02:02:26,740 I now want to talk about Kong, who was a dog. 1363 02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:35,200 His petition had over 30,000 signatures, and Sue, you still killed him, shame on you. 1364 02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:43,120 All we are asking is that a competent investigation before using the state's resources to torture and murder our family members, 1365 02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:50,860 to to hire a certified dog behavior consultant to properly apply the Dunbar's Bite Scale before murdering our family members, 1366 02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:55,540 Hobrick admitted to only have using the scale six times. 1367 02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:03,500 He's going to kill this dog and he's used this Dunbar's Bite Scale six times. 1368 02:03:06,780 --> 02:03:13,700 ridiculous and to exhaust all non-lethal options in our municipal code before 1369 02:03:13,700 --> 02:03:18,160 killing our family members. You guys have went straight to murder after six 1370 02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:24,300 lines of an investigation. Shame on you, shame on your incompetence. Chris, I heard 1371 02:03:24,300 --> 02:03:29,060 you're the guy to reach out to for this. What can you do, bro? Help us out. 1372 02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,040 Thank you. 1373 02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:34,600 If there's anybody else that would like a petition, please raise your hand and I'll bring 1374 02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:34,880 them around. 1375 02:03:35,740 --> 02:03:38,560 Next and online is Graciella. 1376 02:03:44,940 --> 02:03:45,140 Hello. 1377 02:03:45,340 --> 02:03:46,480 Can you hear me? 1378 02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:46,760 Yes. 1379 02:03:46,940 --> 02:03:47,520 We can hear you. 1380 02:03:48,380 --> 02:03:48,700 Hi. 1381 02:03:49,340 --> 02:03:51,740 I have been a long time resident. 1382 02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:53,960 I grew up in Modesto as a child. 1383 02:03:54,660 --> 02:03:57,920 And I have been an educator for over seven years. 1384 02:03:58,860 --> 02:04:01,860 I am extremely disappointed with the City Council. 1385 02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:05,740 So I recently moved back to help the community. 1386 02:04:05,740 --> 02:04:09,500 I went to college and got my bachelor's degree in political science. 1387 02:04:09,500 --> 02:04:12,260 I really wanted to make a difference in my community. 1388 02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:15,820 And I decided education was the route because in politics, 1389 02:04:15,820 --> 02:04:18,560 I saw such a lack of backbone. 1390 02:04:19,380 --> 02:04:23,220 And I see that displayed here today within the City Council. 1391 02:04:23,860 --> 02:04:25,240 I'm extremely disappointed. 1392 02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:28,780 And I hope to see all of you take a harder stance, 1393 02:04:28,780 --> 02:04:32,440 not just against the data centers and the 1394 02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:35,260 floor cameras, but also against the misuse of 1395 02:04:35,260 --> 02:04:39,800 police brutality and ice. I love the children in 1396 02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:42,900 our community as an educator, and I am 1397 02:04:42,900 --> 02:04:44,880 hopeful that you will do the right thing. 1398 02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:48,680 Otherwise, I make a call to action for the 1399 02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:51,600 younger generation, including my own, to take 1400 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:54,020 the seats in front of us because this is our 1401 02:04:54,020 --> 02:04:56,940 community too. I yield the rest of my time. 1402 02:04:56,940 --> 02:04:57,820 Thank you 1403 02:04:59,260 --> 02:05:01,100 Next Laura S 1404 02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:03,240 Laura 1405 02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:12,180 here I 1406 02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:14,580 Will oh 1407 02:05:21,620 --> 02:05:23,420 my name's Laura so I said oh on 1408 02:05:24,260 --> 02:05:28,160 I'm the dog owner of the one that Bernadette was previously talking about 1409 02:05:29,660 --> 02:05:35,200 He's my emotional support animal and it has been gone already since May 26 1410 02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:40,760 I don't know what you guys feel about mental health 1411 02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:47,200 but he is detrimental to mine and like she mentioned there is a lack of 1412 02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:52,360 due justice on his part. There was no investigation from officer 1413 02:05:52,360 --> 02:06:00,840 Hobbrek who is the police, animal control police supervisor. You guys all are 1414 02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:04,180 aware of him because I've seen you guys his names on the previous petitions for 1415 02:06:04,180 --> 02:06:06,640 dogs. So this is a continuing issue. 1416 02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:10,520 Dogs shouldn't be killed especially 1417 02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:14,360 especially, like she said, Chris, I believe you're doing a lot of work with the shelter. 1418 02:06:15,060 --> 02:06:17,960 I've seen your name come up multiple times in the post that I've made. 1419 02:06:19,600 --> 02:06:23,200 Other people are asking for your help, so that's what I'm here to ask for, too. 1420 02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:34,140 He's more than just a dog and he wasn't, he was, he was targeted since the first time, 1421 02:06:34,380 --> 02:06:38,820 even the attorney that we had president and I has a payment hearing said that he just kind 1422 02:06:38,820 --> 02:06:45,500 has it out for him at this point and so like I said we're reaching out on behalf of our family 1423 02:06:45,500 --> 02:06:50,880 and the families of other people who have came and impaled to your guys as nature and asked for 1424 02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:57,520 your help. I'm hoping what everyone else is saying that you guys don't help your people and you're 1425 02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:03,400 not for your people. I'm hoping that's not true because like everyone's been saying we're here and 1426 02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:09,260 you guys are supposed to represent us and we're just asking you guys to do that. So Chris, 1427 02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:12,940 like I said specifically, I don't know if there's anything you could do, but your name has been 1428 02:07:12,940 --> 02:07:19,460 popping up significantly on the post that I've been putting on social media. I have been seeing 1429 02:07:19,460 --> 02:07:24,600 that there's changes being made at the shelter. And so if there's anything you could do, 1430 02:07:26,580 --> 02:07:32,480 Officer Harberg was not qualified to make that decision. Like he said, the City of Modesto has 1431 02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:36,080 as over 400 cases, dog bite cases, 1432 02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:38,920 and for him to only have done six 1433 02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:42,180 does not make him competent to do that. 1434 02:07:43,340 --> 02:07:45,440 We're asking that everything else be exhausted. 1435 02:07:45,820 --> 02:07:47,440 If that means he has to remain at home, 1436 02:07:48,420 --> 02:07:49,900 there will be no further incidents. 1437 02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:54,060 He does have a trainer that is also on board 1438 02:07:54,060 --> 02:07:57,760 to take him on when he gets out if he's released 1439 02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:00,140 because right now he hasn't been with us. 1440 02:08:00,140 --> 02:08:06,080 Like I mentioned, these are just issues that shouldn't be the first solution to. 1441 02:08:06,900 --> 02:08:09,920 He's a young dog. He's not even three years old. 1442 02:08:10,420 --> 02:08:15,220 And he's a very loving dog. If someone tells you that their dog is not friendly 1443 02:08:15,220 --> 02:08:18,700 and to not get in their face, that does not mean they still your food, 1444 02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:21,780 which is what this lady's response was. 1445 02:08:22,460 --> 02:08:25,360 We told her he was not friendly and to not get in his face. 1446 02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:28,040 And she still did and said it was her fault. 1447 02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:31,220 and that we just told her, but her story changed at the 1448 02:08:31,220 --> 02:08:33,060 meeting here, and that's what this is a problem. 1449 02:08:33,980 --> 02:08:35,620 So please, thank you. 1450 02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:37,460 Bring our dog home. 1451 02:08:38,180 --> 02:08:38,700 Okay, thank you. 1452 02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:42,920 Next is, oh, online, oh, 1453 02:08:48,070 --> 02:08:49,750 excuse me, oh, online. 1454 02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:55,930 Hello, I'm sorry, I did not know that my, 1455 02:08:56,330 --> 02:09:00,290 I had a different name, flagged in, but my name is Stephanie 1456 02:09:00,290 --> 02:09:07,810 make error and I'm making a public comment. So a couple things were mentioned about the 1457 02:09:07,810 --> 02:09:14,490 data centers that I'd like to adjust. Firstly, I'm against a data center coming here. I 1458 02:09:14,490 --> 02:09:18,850 wanted to say that I appreciate that you guys are taking the public comments and listening 1459 02:09:19,250 --> 02:09:26,470 and hopefully with open ears. We are counting on you. The community is counting on you to 1460 02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:32,670 be the experts in providing the city protections. 1461 02:09:33,670 --> 02:09:41,810 And we have only heard from the news and so much, so much we have heard about data centers. 1462 02:09:42,670 --> 02:09:49,550 We have heard online social media about the situations that other cities are encountering 1463 02:09:49,550 --> 02:09:51,270 with data centers in their community. 1464 02:09:51,270 --> 02:09:59,810 And of course, the priority of our city should be their resources and the people and maintaining 1465 02:09:59,810 --> 02:10:01,050 the health of our community. 1466 02:10:01,910 --> 02:10:10,130 And I know that the many voices that we've heard today are of the same saying, hey, we don't 1467 02:10:10,130 --> 02:10:13,450 want money to take our resources we're filling constraints. 1468 02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:21,350 Some things that are mentioned online from news articles regarding data centers are that 1469 02:10:21,350 --> 02:10:29,470 sometimes they are taking more resources from the communities illegally, tapping into 1470 02:10:29,470 --> 02:10:32,310 water resources that they said that they would not have. 1471 02:10:33,500 --> 02:10:41,270 It is my belief that currently with the knowledge that AI data centers have a tremendous 1472 02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:48,170 This tremendous amount of money and opportunity, they have the funds to be able to establish 1473 02:10:48,530 --> 02:10:52,790 a business of having that as an interventional. 1474 02:10:53,430 --> 02:11:03,270 The problem with that push, with all that funding and money, is that, quite honestly, the 1475 02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:05,070 technology has already changed. 1476 02:11:05,070 --> 02:11:12,590 The technologies have already changed where they can do systems that do not take the water. 1477 02:11:13,290 --> 02:11:17,290 They don't have those new, they can do that in a smaller scale. 1478 02:11:17,770 --> 02:11:20,790 They don't need to have a large space in our community. 1479 02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:26,030 It's just a sign of old technology and it's a sign that is going to cause problems 1480 02:11:26,030 --> 02:11:27,830 like many other communities have faced. 1481 02:11:28,710 --> 02:11:33,850 So I hope that you will again consider those concerns 1482 02:11:33,850 --> 02:11:39,350 and service well. Thank you. You're welcome. Next is Alex. 1483 02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:44,710 Alex in person. 1484 02:11:49,070 --> 02:11:50,430 It looks like Alex, 1485 02:11:50,950 --> 02:11:52,010 A-L-E-X, 1486 02:11:55,620 --> 02:12:02,060 right? I'll call that one at the end in case they're here. Rosalina. 1487 02:12:07,340 --> 02:12:08,260 Rosalina here. 1488 02:12:08,780 --> 02:12:09,420 Okay, great. 1489 02:12:25,340 --> 02:12:31,960 My name is Rosalina. I'm here on behalf of my grandpa Papa. He is an amazing part of our family 1490 02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:37,240 who fills it with an amazing amount of love and happiness. He is just a huge 1491 02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:42,900 lovable puppy who believes in his soul that he is a teacup Yorkie who was 1492 02:12:42,900 --> 02:12:48,160 always waiting for me at the door with such joy and a toy in his mouth so that 1493 02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:53,680 we can play a giant who plays with my grandsons and lets them ride him like a 1494 02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:59,000 pony with no complaints. He has seen my daughter Laura and her fiance Alex 1495 02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:10,100 through one of the most darkest times of their life and is such a huge part of her emotional well-being and has given them her some semblance of peace and hope. 1496 02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:21,680 I found it imbarable to think that the decision to end his life has been taken so lightly by someone who doesn't know him and who clearly has ill will toward Papa from the gecko. 1497 02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:40,960 Officer Chris Hobrick has clearly acted as Judge Jerry an executioner against Papa that is clearly marked by one-sided investigation against him, not one city reach out to question his family who is the only audible voice for Papa. 1498 02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:47,100 I was there when the incident happened, I am witness to the fear in his eyes and confusion 1499 02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:51,200 to what had just happened through no fault of his own. 1500 02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:59,510 I am truly sorry for the injury of this person and I'm not downplaying our responsibility, 1501 02:14:00,270 --> 02:14:05,510 but she was warned about him, not being friendly and about not getting in his face. 1502 02:14:05,930 --> 02:14:06,790 She didn't listen. 1503 02:14:07,490 --> 02:14:15,030 She was warned so why is the only focus being made that the correct words of him being 1504 02:14:15,030 --> 02:14:20,950 a vicious dog not being used negates the fact that she didn't listen to the warning. 1505 02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:30,870 I wish you could have heard her while I was rendering aid to her how she kept saying 1506 02:14:30,870 --> 02:14:35,530 over and over that it was her fault because they had told her about Papa. 1507 02:14:36,030 --> 02:14:38,170 It was her fault she didn't listen. 1508 02:14:38,170 --> 02:14:43,030 And so why is Papa going to pay the ultimate price of his life? 1509 02:14:43,610 --> 02:14:48,430 I just ask that you please help bring our dog home. 1510 02:14:48,610 --> 02:14:51,090 He is so important to my daughter and her family. 1511 02:14:52,490 --> 02:14:55,350 Just please help us get him back home where he belongs. 1512 02:14:56,010 --> 02:14:56,730 Thank you. 1513 02:14:56,930 --> 02:14:57,270 Thank you. 1514 02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:08,880 Jack, Gil Stratbar. Jack, 1515 02:15:17,420 --> 02:15:22,960 next is Allen Bergett. 1516 02:15:35,340 --> 02:15:37,380 Dear members of the council, my name is 1517 02:15:37,380 --> 02:15:41,720 Allen, and as a young resident I've lived in in Love Modesto for my whole life. Tonight 1518 02:15:41,720 --> 02:15:45,500 we've heard a lot of incredible talking points against the construction of AI data centers. 1519 02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:50,140 It's effects on our environment and our neighbors in Modesto, and even the impact the construction 1520 02:15:50,140 --> 02:15:54,940 would have on yourselves. The construction of a data center absolutely promises 1521 02:15:54,940 --> 02:15:57,440 is to decimate the future of young people like myself. 1522 02:15:57,940 --> 02:16:00,320 In this matter, we place our future in your hands. 1523 02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,320 Equally so, your political careers lay in the hands 1524 02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:04,920 of young people just like myself. 1525 02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:08,020 That fact is something I encourage all residents young 1526 02:16:08,020 --> 02:16:09,300 or old to make note of. 1527 02:16:09,860 --> 02:16:11,960 You say that you currently have no plans 1528 02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:14,780 to build an AI data center, but I would like 1529 02:16:14,780 --> 02:16:16,040 to pose you one simple question. 1530 02:16:16,860 --> 02:16:20,680 How can you as leaders of this city assure young residents 1531 02:16:20,680 --> 02:16:23,420 that there will be no similar plans in the future? 1532 02:16:23,420 --> 02:16:33,160 Because the fact of the matter remains, the amount of effort it would take from these greedy and shady corporations to change this council's plans to build an AI data center is frighteningly small. 1533 02:16:34,180 --> 02:16:51,580 If what has been seen here tonight is all you can provide as assurance, if all you can provide, if that's all you can provide as assurance, there will be no data center, it is not reasonable to place our trust in the members of the council with even a moratorium. 1534 02:16:51,580 --> 02:16:56,880 Frankly, the only way is to push in all of our power for a permanent ban on the construction 1535 02:16:56,880 --> 02:16:59,000 of AI's data centers in our city. 1536 02:17:00,220 --> 02:17:04,560 To the members of the council, I ask you to take some actual pride in our city and 1537 02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:09,100 neighbors and give us the ban we need to assure that our youth have a brighter future. 1538 02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:14,040 So I ask you once more, what will you do to assure us that your plans will not change? 1539 02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:22,280 Anybody can speak. 1540 02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:23,400 I'm 1541 02:17:47,110 --> 02:17:49,590 ready whenever anybody's ready to speak, really 1542 02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:20,980 only hurting your own careers. 1543 02:18:37,900 --> 02:18:38,180 Thank you. 1544 02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:39,540 I believe you proved my point. 1545 02:18:40,760 --> 02:18:41,360 Yes. 1546 02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:44,520 In person is Tatiana. 1547 02:18:56,390 --> 02:18:57,730 My name is Tatiana. 1548 02:18:58,050 --> 02:19:01,910 I'm a constituent of Modesto and have been all my life. 1549 02:19:02,370 --> 02:19:06,170 In your statement, you mentioned there's no active proposal in regards to the building, 1550 02:19:06,170 --> 02:19:07,310 a data center here. 1551 02:19:08,030 --> 02:19:10,910 I'm here today to demand that that doesn't change. 1552 02:19:11,410 --> 02:19:15,730 Councilman, Ricky, in an interview said it isn't 100% impossible. 1553 02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:19,210 So I ask, what can we do to make it 100% preventable? 1554 02:19:19,790 --> 02:19:25,690 What actions need to be taken by all of you to ensure our resources, environment, and 1555 02:19:25,690 --> 02:19:27,130 the residents are all safe? 1556 02:19:27,850 --> 02:19:31,770 I would love to see that added to the next agenda so we can vote and discuss what that looks 1557 02:19:31,770 --> 02:19:32,070 like. 1558 02:19:32,430 --> 02:19:34,330 This conversation is far from over. 1559 02:19:35,270 --> 02:19:39,550 But another threat our city faces is going to be flock cameras. 1560 02:19:41,940 --> 02:19:46,520 It has been discovered that local cameras in our city are feeding into a national network 1561 02:19:46,520 --> 02:19:48,860 accessible to federal agencies. 1562 02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:54,960 An example, Texas officer used 83,000 flock cameras to track a woman having an abortion, 1563 02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:57,440 which was legal in the state she was in. 1564 02:19:57,880 --> 02:20:01,800 This is setting a dangerous precedent that individual state laws don't matter. 1565 02:20:02,420 --> 02:20:06,060 Who's to say this won't be applied to immigration and sanctuary states? 1566 02:20:08,780 --> 02:20:11,900 There are 117 flock cameras in Modesto alone. 1567 02:20:11,900 --> 02:20:18,680 Some facing schools and neighborhoods putting children and families on a database under the guise of public safety. 1568 02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:26,540 If there is outrage for a potential data center, we have to be outraged about the active invasion of privacy the city's contracted flock is. 1569 02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:37,180 More examples of rogue tech in the wrong hands, Cambridge of Massachusetts canceled their flock after they secretly installed two cameras without their knowledge. 1570 02:20:37,180 --> 02:20:42,160 Evanston, Illinois, they terminated after flock attempted to unauthorize 1571 02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:48,340 reinstallation after they canceled. Austin, Texas, audit found 20% of searches 1572 02:20:48,340 --> 02:20:55,060 lacked documentation. This is clear lack of trust with flock in its entirety. 1573 02:20:55,980 --> 02:21:00,220 Security failing, so 67 flock cameras streaming to the Internet without passwords. 1574 02:21:00,820 --> 02:21:05,400 Anyone was able to view live, archive, feed, or delete the data that was there. 1575 02:21:05,400 --> 02:21:12,240 Security Outbreak. Outreach already. The flock pitch is local cameras for local crime. 1576 02:21:12,780 --> 02:21:20,400 Instead, though, they created a national surveillance network where federal agencies can track anyone without city's knowledge. 1577 02:21:21,040 --> 02:21:25,100 And this has already been proven. A hundred cities have canceled their contract with flock. 1578 02:21:25,580 --> 02:21:31,640 They chose to protect the constituents of their city. Will you? Data centers and flock cameras go hand in hand. 1579 02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:33,180 and we say, hell no to both. 1580 02:21:33,880 --> 02:21:36,200 In conclusion, I hope you use your positions 1581 02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:41,060 meant to protect us, to actually create laws that protect us. 1582 02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:45,360 Not just for now, not just for currently, for all ways. 1583 02:21:46,580 --> 02:21:48,800 Or we will vote in people who do. 1584 02:21:49,500 --> 02:21:49,880 Thank you. 1585 02:21:50,280 --> 02:21:50,400 You're welcome. 1586 02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:56,190 Bruce Hammerstone? 1587 02:21:56,990 --> 02:21:57,410 Bruce? 1588 02:22:06,020 --> 02:22:07,620 My name is Bruce Hammerstone. 1589 02:22:08,180 --> 02:22:10,100 I've lived in Modesto since 1965. 1590 02:22:10,900 --> 02:22:12,200 I'm 69 years old. 1591 02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:18,420 and I'm sick and tired of the city attorney here, interfering in obstructing my ability 1592 02:22:18,420 --> 02:22:23,020 to talk to my elected officials, including Jeremiah Williams here and Mrs. Wallen, who 1593 02:22:23,020 --> 02:22:27,420 I went to school with at Davis High School, played with your husband in the alumni game. 1594 02:22:28,740 --> 02:22:30,280 I had an appointment with you. 1595 02:22:30,660 --> 02:22:31,700 I waited a half an hour. 1596 02:22:31,820 --> 02:22:33,420 I just asked to talk to you on the phone. 1597 02:22:33,960 --> 02:22:41,800 I waited a half hour, went into the meeting, scudged with your liaison, and they said, oh no! 1598 02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:43,820 Oh, he had to go to a ribbon cutting. 1599 02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:46,600 Okay, well, let's reset it. 1600 02:22:46,740 --> 02:22:48,120 Nothing, nothing ever happened. 1601 02:22:48,520 --> 02:22:50,100 I don't know if you know what's going on, 1602 02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:51,940 but I've asked to talk to the mayor. 1603 02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:56,020 I've been told, talk to your elected officials about this. 1604 02:22:56,580 --> 02:23:00,020 The problem is, people moved into my neighborhood. 1605 02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:04,060 Two doors down from me, and I never talked to them. 1606 02:23:04,340 --> 02:23:06,180 I never interacted with them. 1607 02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:08,280 I never met them. 1608 02:23:08,700 --> 02:23:10,640 They come out and say, oh, we know him. 1609 02:23:10,640 --> 02:23:17,900 he's crazy, he's out in the street like a methamphetamine, attic, yelling at cars, threatening 1610 02:23:17,900 --> 02:23:25,020 people, it's all baloney, okay? They attacked me, they broke my thumb, they shattered my 1611 02:23:25,020 --> 02:23:29,040 thumb, I've had three operations on it in the hospital, it's crippled, it's never going 1612 02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:34,880 to work again. My legs crippled, they broke my femur, they destroyed my collateral ligament, 1613 02:23:34,880 --> 02:23:43,080 that still has to be fixed supposedly, it's terrible, these people believe it or not, try 1614 02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:47,880 to attack me again a year later, well the police arrested me, I got 9-1-1, the policeman 1615 02:23:47,880 --> 02:23:57,120 showed up within seconds, he was hostile to me and cited me, arrested me and cited me. 1616 02:23:57,540 --> 02:24:02,480 He said, there's not a mark on you, you know, you said they beat the hell out of you, there's 1617 02:24:02,480 --> 02:24:06,020 mark on you and I start to show him well look at my eye you know it's my eye was 1618 02:24:06,020 --> 02:24:12,460 gouged and I he said is that your front door I said yeah because wait right here I'll be right back 1619 02:24:12,460 --> 02:24:19,960 he went over and talked to this guy and this guy is a correctional officer okay blue protects blue 1620 02:24:20,450 --> 02:24:27,100 and that's good because we're a blue family too the mother and my children my grown daughters were 1621 02:24:27,100 --> 02:24:33,280 very successful by the way, was a nurse at the prison up in Jamestown. 1622 02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:37,220 She also burnt babies here for 36 years at Memorial Hospital. 1623 02:24:38,060 --> 02:24:38,740 It 1624 02:24:43,980 --> 02:24:47,620 is a travesty that I'm even having to come up here and talk. 1625 02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:53,360 It's destroying our family. 1626 02:24:54,300 --> 02:25:01,880 These people got a restraining order against me from attacking me every time they come down 1627 02:25:01,880 --> 02:25:09,340 to my house, only two doors down, and attack me. Physically, verbally. Is my time up? 1628 02:25:09,800 --> 02:25:10,380 Yes. 1629 02:25:11,020 --> 02:25:18,700 I'd like to be put on the agenda for the next meeting to address this where I can put 1630 02:25:18,700 --> 02:25:25,200 in a letter like instead of an email, and I'd like an investigation into this ASAP. 1631 02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:26,220 Thank you. 1632 02:25:26,220 --> 02:25:27,220 This man up here. 1633 02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:29,820 Okay, you've exceeded your time. 1634 02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:30,980 And if you'd like to, 1635 02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:33,780 Allison, maybe share her card with you 1636 02:25:33,780 --> 02:25:35,700 and then you can have sure their contact. 1637 02:25:36,340 --> 02:25:36,780 Thank you. 1638 02:25:36,820 --> 02:25:37,060 Thank you. 1639 02:25:37,720 --> 02:25:38,240 Yes. 1640 02:25:38,780 --> 02:25:41,600 Next in person is Ann Marie Salgado. 1641 02:25:50,260 --> 02:25:50,900 Hello, City Council. 1642 02:25:52,420 --> 02:25:54,000 My name is Ann Marie. 1643 02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:55,740 I'm a resident of Modesto. 1644 02:25:57,540 --> 02:25:58,660 I would like to read here. 1645 02:25:58,840 --> 02:25:59,040 Yes. 1646 02:25:59,560 --> 02:26:02,140 No AI data centers in Modesto. 1647 02:26:02,140 --> 02:26:04,260 for all the reasons that have been listed before. 1648 02:26:05,140 --> 02:26:09,160 And yes, I'm glad that it is not in the municipal code 1649 02:26:09,580 --> 02:26:10,900 to allow these data centers, 1650 02:26:11,180 --> 02:26:13,320 but if North Point is attempting to negotiate, 1651 02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:15,120 that means they think they have a chance. 1652 02:26:15,660 --> 02:26:17,320 And these companies, they will break laws, 1653 02:26:17,540 --> 02:26:19,360 they will do whatever they can to get what they want. 1654 02:26:19,640 --> 02:26:23,540 So we need you in position of power to fight for us. 1655 02:26:24,140 --> 02:26:26,580 And I think people have a good reason 1656 02:26:26,580 --> 02:26:28,340 to distrust our city council. 1657 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:30,640 Let me go back in time. 1658 02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:38,640 6 people were arrested on June 14th at an ICE out protest under the Municipal Code, 4.23 1659 02:26:39,260 --> 02:26:45,140 Section 2, subsection 13, which bans wearing a non-medical, non-religious mask or face 1660 02:26:45,140 --> 02:26:49,880 covering at a protest, as well as banning other items like bike helmets, metal water bottles 1661 02:26:49,880 --> 02:26:51,700 and wooden sticks thicker than a quarter inch. 1662 02:26:52,500 --> 02:26:58,700 People showed up to meetings for 6 months after that, every single meeting asking the City 1663 02:26:58,700 --> 02:27:03,820 Council to repeal or amend this code, citing blatant first amendment violations and how vague 1664 02:27:03,820 --> 02:27:06,180 and unenforceable the mask section was. 1665 02:27:06,640 --> 02:27:11,820 City Council did nothing and said nothing beyond empty platitudes until threatened with 1666 02:27:11,820 --> 02:27:17,500 a lawsuit from the ACLU and even then the amendment that they made that you all made, still 1667 02:27:17,500 --> 02:27:18,860 outlawed face coverings. 1668 02:27:19,140 --> 02:27:25,040 So the ACLU went forward with the lawsuit and won the preliminary injunction, making the 1669 02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:32,560 mask subsection, unenforceable, and the City Council is still pushing back filing an appeal 1670 02:27:33,180 --> 02:27:35,040 against this preliminary injunction. 1671 02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:41,560 The lawsuit has already cost the city over $300,000, and will continue to do so if you 1672 02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:42,460 continue to fight in court. 1673 02:27:43,260 --> 02:27:44,260 And you will lose. 1674 02:27:45,180 --> 02:27:50,840 It is not a coincidence that the city has currently over 100 ALPR, which stands for automated 1675 02:27:50,840 --> 02:27:58,460 license plate, license plate readers, cameras installed. Most of which were installed in the year of 1676 02:27:58,460 --> 02:28:05,520 2026 as a deflock, which everyone should look up to show a flock cameras and other surveillance cameras. 1677 02:28:06,260 --> 02:28:12,000 You are fighting tooth and nail to force peaceful protesters to show themselves to state surveillance. 1678 02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:18,060 And it is also not a coincidence that the City Council has increased the annual police budget 1679 02:28:18,060 --> 02:28:23,300 it yearly, which is currently at over a million, and votes blindly in favor of military 1680 02:28:23,300 --> 02:28:28,940 great equipment for the police, including surveillance planes and an armored vehicle, 1681 02:28:28,940 --> 02:28:36,600 which was over 500 K. And it's also not a coincidence that any time anyone asks for police 1682 02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:44,320 accountability, it is dodged, we're sent to the police review board, and even when they 1683 02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:48,620 I do make a recommendation, like saying that the mask ordinance should be repealed. 1684 02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:50,900 They were blatantly ignored, right? 1685 02:28:51,640 --> 02:28:59,060 So I ask for police accountability, and no data centers, and no flat cameras, no automated 1686 02:28:59,060 --> 02:29:00,740 license plate readers in our community. 1687 02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:01,560 Thank you very much. 1688 02:29:01,640 --> 02:29:01,860 Have a good day. 1689 02:29:04,640 --> 02:29:05,020 All right. 1690 02:29:06,040 --> 02:29:11,160 I'm coming back for Susan as a veto one more time. 1691 02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:14,060 I don't believe she's here, but I just want to make sure. 1692 02:29:14,060 --> 02:29:19,840 All right. Moving on to Amber Blumgren. 1693 02:29:22,080 --> 02:29:25,220 Amber, welcome. 1694 02:29:39,610 --> 02:29:44,930 Hi. Everybody stated all the facts regarding data centers. You guys have heard every statistic possible. 1695 02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:50,510 I do encourage everybody that's listening to look up Aaron Brockovich's data center website. 1696 02:29:50,510 --> 02:29:55,290 It is indexing everything that's going on nationwide. It's a great resource. 1697 02:29:55,290 --> 02:29:58,610 You can model what we're doing here. We can model after people who have left before 1698 02:30:05,340 --> 02:30:06,300 All right. 1699 02:30:08,540 --> 02:30:26,840 So, I want to let you guys know, not zone for the data centers is not enough. A moratorium is not enough. We are asking for you to ban data centers, put it on the next agenda, and make it loud. And I want to show you that our city is beautifully created. So, here we go. Okay, the work. 1700 02:30:26,840 --> 02:30:27,700 They 1701 02:30:29,750 --> 02:30:33,610 pay paradise, put up a day to spot, 1702 02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:40,820 chat GPT and piles, 1703 02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:57,820 they pay paradise, and put up a day to spot. 1704 02:30:58,160 --> 02:31:00,410 Only I swap, 1705 02:31:02,850 --> 02:31:07,770 I swap, hate any council, but defter will never stop. 1706 02:31:10,340 --> 02:31:14,800 Fighting data centers, leave us water for our crops, 1707 02:31:33,460 --> 02:31:36,500 paradise, don't put up a day to spot. 1708 02:31:45,250 --> 02:31:45,570 Please. 1709 02:31:52,290 --> 02:31:58,730 One comment. You have to be my age to really appreciate that song. Next, Lincoln Jones. 1710 02:32:10,850 --> 02:32:11,170 Welcome. 1711 02:32:13,440 --> 02:32:23,600 I don't know how you guys do it. I'm so cold. Originally, I didn't plan on saying anything because I felt like a lot of people were going to have mostly the same opinion, a lot of the same facts. 1712 02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:27,400 But I think halfway through, I started to kind of perceive that the biggest conversation 1713 02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:30,860 here really seems to be about how afraid everybody is. 1714 02:32:31,220 --> 02:32:34,680 I feel like whether or not this data center goes through, which I feel like it most likely 1715 02:32:34,680 --> 02:32:37,740 isn't because it doesn't feel like it'll help us at all. 1716 02:32:38,160 --> 02:32:42,220 The biggest point is really what will help us because whether or not that data center is 1717 02:32:42,220 --> 02:32:46,320 put there, I mean, we're all still worried about how much it costs for us to have gas and 1718 02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:46,660 water. 1719 02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:51,040 And a lot of people, this is the first time that they've ever come here to try to attempt 1720 02:32:51,040 --> 02:32:53,660 to beg to have a better life. 1721 02:32:54,200 --> 02:32:58,620 And I feel like that hearing people of varying ages 1722 02:32:58,620 --> 02:33:04,060 really parrot these fears with a perception that 1723 02:33:04,060 --> 02:33:06,160 the rest of the world is already like this. 1724 02:33:06,520 --> 02:33:08,380 And people in cities way bigger than ours 1725 02:33:08,380 --> 02:33:11,040 and way better than ours have already succumbed to this. 1726 02:33:11,340 --> 02:33:14,600 If it happens in Modesto, we will just have to leave Modesto. 1727 02:33:15,140 --> 02:33:18,120 And for a lot of people here, there's nowhere between 1728 02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:20,540 you know, LA or the Bay Area for us to go. 1729 02:33:21,020 --> 02:33:24,420 So if something like a data center does move you out of your house, you are really moved 1730 02:33:24,420 --> 02:33:24,960 out of your house. 1731 02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:28,420 And there's nothing else to think about besides that. 1732 02:33:28,820 --> 02:33:34,060 I think a lot of the time in this conversation that a lot of people have been having about 1733 02:33:34,060 --> 02:33:38,860 this data center, I've been wondering to myself, well, if that is the concern, would this 1734 02:33:38,860 --> 02:33:42,920 data center, if it's banned completely, if that's just where you guys go, what does 1735 02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:45,500 that fix for the things that we are scared of? 1736 02:33:45,500 --> 02:33:48,980 How does that change, you know, the day-to-day, like these cameras? 1737 02:33:49,220 --> 02:33:52,740 If there are no flock cameras, the reason that those flock cameras were put up to begin 1738 02:33:52,740 --> 02:33:57,000 with for protection or safety, how does that change the way that the police interact 1739 02:33:57,000 --> 02:33:57,520 with us? 1740 02:33:57,780 --> 02:34:02,360 If we don't like those cameras, we don't like being surveilled, how do we change the system 1741 02:34:02,360 --> 02:34:04,020 in a way that we do feel protected? 1742 02:34:04,300 --> 02:34:07,640 We do feel like, you know, there's a police officer who can actually help you out, because 1743 02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:10,900 when I see those cameras, it reminds me that I don't think about going to a cop if something 1744 02:34:10,900 --> 02:34:11,300 happens. 1745 02:34:11,820 --> 02:34:15,240 I see that camera and I think of when I see a cop, which is, oh, there's one right there. 1746 02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:17,200 and then you try to avoid it. 1747 02:34:17,300 --> 02:34:19,540 You don't go down that street again. 1748 02:34:20,200 --> 02:34:22,180 And it's a daily thing for a lot of people. 1749 02:34:22,320 --> 02:34:24,720 You see it everywhere online if you don't want to see it. 1750 02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:27,100 People have information about these data centers. 1751 02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:30,540 And the place that I found a lot of this information 1752 02:34:30,540 --> 02:34:32,000 I felt like was like deep into the Internet. 1753 02:34:32,380 --> 02:34:36,080 It's honestly kind of impressive how many people know so much about this. 1754 02:34:36,480 --> 02:34:39,320 And it feels like this is the only thing that we can really fight for 1755 02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:42,440 or argue about because there is so much information about it. 1756 02:34:42,440 --> 02:34:47,200 I think, you know, unlike those cameras, there wasn't a moment where we could see something 1757 02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:50,220 in the future coming and ask you guys to prevent it for us. 1758 02:34:50,660 --> 02:34:54,480 I feel like that's, you know, the biggest thing about this conversation is that it is 1759 02:34:54,480 --> 02:34:57,520 a relationship and there doesn't need to be communication and I feel like a lot of people 1760 02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:01,580 feel like our ability to communicate with you guys is difficult and that it doesn't get 1761 02:35:01,580 --> 02:35:05,660 anywhere and that a data center could ask you to put one up and it just goes up versus, 1762 02:35:05,660 --> 02:35:08,240 you know, us begging you to consider it. 1763 02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:09,540 But that's it. 1764 02:35:10,140 --> 02:35:10,680 Thank you. 1765 02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:10,780 Thank you. 1766 02:35:11,720 --> 02:35:12,720 Next is Giancarlo. 1767 02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:35,640 Heyo, I am a Modesto resident and another local teacher that's calling on you for the sake 1768 02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:39,960 of your constituents, for the sake of the children, such as the ones that are currently here 1769 02:35:39,960 --> 02:35:44,660 and future children, to permanently ban data centers in Modesto. 1770 02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:50,300 If you paid attention to your constituents today, you would be well aware that we do not have 1771 02:35:50,300 --> 02:35:53,060 the capacity to meet the demands of data centers in our communities. 1772 02:35:53,060 --> 02:35:58,220 Millions of gallons of water annually which would dwarf the use of entire communities just 1773 02:35:58,220 --> 02:35:58,740 like ours. 1774 02:35:58,880 --> 02:36:03,380 An example here is actually Google has one called the Council Bluff Status Center in 1775 02:36:03,380 --> 02:36:03,740 Iowa. 1776 02:36:04,280 --> 02:36:07,860 Use around 980 million gallons of water per year. 1777 02:36:08,300 --> 02:36:11,200 That's similar to any water usage of over 4 million homes. 1778 02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:13,400 We have nowhere near that many homes here. 1779 02:36:13,600 --> 02:36:16,120 We will not be able to meet those demands. 1780 02:36:16,120 --> 02:36:22,240 even after, you know, we're asked to cut on our water and energy uses, okay? 1781 02:36:22,900 --> 02:36:25,060 This would exhaust our energy systems. 1782 02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:27,660 And it will always be at our expense, y'all. 1783 02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:32,580 And at expense of our environment, which faces droughts. 1784 02:36:33,580 --> 02:36:38,020 You should have also heard from your constituents that this will have negative economic impacts. 1785 02:36:38,540 --> 02:36:44,380 Data centers require a few employees, typically low wage and non-technical or temporary positions. 1786 02:36:44,380 --> 02:36:50,420 the only ones who benefit will be tech companies with tax breaks and short-term profits or 1787 02:36:50,420 --> 02:36:55,540 North Point, okay, with his business deal, but we all subsidize the costs. And essentially 1788 02:36:55,540 --> 02:36:59,240 if North Point's lobbying succeeds, and the thing is, is that there would be lobbying, 1789 02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:05,560 the real more accurate word for that is bribing, if North Point's bribing succeeds. Y'all 1790 02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:11,140 here will be forcing us to pay for and witness the destruction of our economy and environment, 1791 02:37:11,140 --> 02:37:15,260 And our descendants are going to experience and witness that too. 1792 02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:22,660 The city should be focusing on making decisions that improve our community and benefit 1793 02:37:22,660 --> 02:37:23,740 our future generations. 1794 02:37:24,200 --> 02:37:25,240 I mean, y'all have done it before. 1795 02:37:25,880 --> 02:37:31,580 The extension of the Virginia corridor that provided more folks access to this space and 1796 02:37:31,580 --> 02:37:33,460 future generations to come as well. 1797 02:37:34,820 --> 02:37:40,320 And the issue is that we shouldn't be approving things that harm our communities. 1798 02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:47,140 Okay, and I'm going to use this to segue here because one thing that the city did that harmed our community was when y'all approved to raise 1799 02:37:47,140 --> 02:37:55,140 $349,000 to defend in court the mask ordinance that was greatly opposed by your community members, okay? 1800 02:37:55,380 --> 02:37:59,880 A court case that you'll waste our tax money on and will most likely lose 1801 02:37:59,880 --> 02:38:04,680 Considering the recent injunction that prevents MPD from even enforcing this ordinance, okay? 1802 02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:09,800 For months y'all for like a year now y'all have constantly ignored 1803 02:38:09,800 --> 02:38:14,260 your constituents and carried on with business as usual about that mass 1804 02:38:14,260 --> 02:38:21,100 ordinance. So I'm asking you all, will you ignore your constituents again, those 1805 02:38:21,100 --> 02:38:25,500 constituents that you are supposed to represent, or will you actually listen to 1806 02:38:25,500 --> 02:38:29,400 them and act accordingly for the sake of us? Thank you. 1807 02:38:49,820 --> 02:38:57,360 evening. I'm not talking about data or any of the stuff going on tonight. My name is 1808 02:38:57,360 --> 02:39:04,520 you, Senior Rodriguez. I am back because the shutdown of public markets continue to 1809 02:39:04,520 --> 02:39:10,600 directly affect me, our vendors, our small businesses, and the families who depend on 1810 02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:17,980 these markets for income. First, I want to sincerely thank Allison for meeting with 1811 02:39:17,980 --> 02:39:22,640 us listening to our concerns and continuing to work forward a solution. 1812 02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:28,440 Tonight, I'm asking the city for a temporary solution, whether it's a 1813 02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:35,320 micro permit, a temporary permit, a pilot program, or permission to operate on 1814 02:39:35,320 --> 02:39:40,860 city property while the city works on a long-term solution. Our vendors are 1815 02:39:40,860 --> 02:39:46,260 willing to meet the requirements we are holding workshops to help them become 1816 02:39:46,260 --> 02:39:52,760 properly licensed, insured, and compliant. We are willing to work directly with the city in the 1817 02:39:52,760 --> 02:40:01,440 county to make sure this is done correctly. Every week we remain shut down means lost income for 1818 02:40:01,440 --> 02:40:08,680 families, vendors, and small entrepreneurs. Give us the opportunity to prove that a safe, organized, 1819 02:40:09,100 --> 02:40:16,240 compliant public market can operate successfully in Modesto. We are ready to get back to business. 1820 02:40:16,260 --> 02:40:22,700 Yes, please help us get the ball rolling. We need an opportunity. We need a temporary 1821 02:40:22,700 --> 02:40:25,220 solution now. Thank you. 1822 02:40:25,720 --> 02:40:25,820 Welcome. 1823 02:40:27,800 --> 02:40:31,580 That is Elizabeth. 1824 02:40:36,740 --> 02:40:37,220 Hi there. 1825 02:40:44,160 --> 02:40:45,040 Good evening. 1826 02:40:45,640 --> 02:40:49,560 So originally I came here to look for some employment opportunities, but I found out about 1827 02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:53,820 this. So I wrote down a last-minute statement that I want to make. 1828 02:40:56,380 --> 02:40:59,280 For as long as I could remember, I've been deeply 1829 02:40:59,280 --> 02:41:03,120 in effectuated with the natural world that we have the luxury of being surrounded by. 1830 02:41:03,860 --> 02:41:08,680 My grandfather taught me to appreciate nature and understand how it provides for our needs. 1831 02:41:09,680 --> 02:41:16,340 Data senders cause impact on not only our jobs, but with our natural ecosystems that exist 1832 02:41:16,340 --> 02:41:17,220 for our well-being. 1833 02:41:19,140 --> 02:41:21,700 My grandpa worked for the Gala Winery for many years. 1834 02:41:21,700 --> 02:41:24,240 I'd hope to have the same opportunities as him. 1835 02:41:25,220 --> 02:41:28,980 Many industries are losing opportunities for the new generations. 1836 02:41:30,500 --> 02:41:39,460 However, our chances of helping are very source of survival of our planet is becoming 1837 02:41:39,460 --> 02:41:40,480 increasingly dim. 1838 02:41:42,040 --> 02:41:43,440 It's becoming so hot everywhere. 1839 02:41:45,100 --> 02:41:47,140 Well, I'm originally from Modesto. 1840 02:41:47,700 --> 02:41:52,320 I went to school in Vallejo and my school had academies. 1841 02:41:52,320 --> 02:41:59,100 I was part of the law academy and my law teacher and I would discuss the already existing 1842 02:41:59,100 --> 02:42:05,300 threats on our environment in 2018 1843 02:42:07,380 --> 02:42:12,620 when a wildfire in Paradise, California caused many 1844 02:42:12,620 --> 02:42:14,680 loss and grievance. 1845 02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:20,760 The sky was black and the sun was red for at least a week. 1846 02:42:20,760 --> 02:42:27,780 we couldn't go outside due to the constant fall of ash and debris and 1847 02:42:30,270 --> 02:42:32,990 from what I've heard from the 1848 02:42:32,990 --> 02:42:42,890 previous statements the data centers seem to cause heat in the environment and affect a lot of 1849 02:42:43,530 --> 02:42:53,050 important things. I go and walks all the time in hikes and I notice a lot of bees just fall to the 1850 02:42:53,050 --> 02:43:01,850 ground and just die because it's so hot outside. And my law teacher left me with a comment 1851 02:43:01,850 --> 02:43:10,250 that kind of stuck with me for a lot of years. He told me that, you know, if the people 1852 02:43:10,250 --> 02:43:19,440 don't do something about it, it's just going to bite them. But not only are economic issues 1853 02:43:19,440 --> 02:43:27,080 at stake, but are environmental well-being for the future generations. Thank you for your time. 1854 02:43:27,140 --> 02:43:28,260 You're welcome. You're welcome. 1855 02:43:37,330 --> 02:43:38,730 All right, next is Manuella. 1856 02:43:54,330 --> 02:43:56,470 Hello everyone. I first want to 1857 02:43:56,470 --> 02:44:01,690 acknowledge that we are on Yo-Kutts land, and I think that's very important when we look at data centers. 1858 02:44:04,110 --> 02:44:09,590 When I was reading the Modesto Focus, some of you said that you were surprised that people are 1859 02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:14,790 mad. And I just think that shows like how divorced you are from us and people on the ground 1860 02:44:14,790 --> 02:44:22,370 and what's really happening in this country. So what I'm going to use is analogy or are saying 1861 02:44:22,370 --> 02:44:27,190 here in Modesto, we're going to look at this to the lens of water wealth contentment health. 1862 02:44:28,070 --> 02:44:35,110 So we already know we've heard the stats on what data centers do to our water. But what I don't 1863 02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:39,430 people realize is that we have water rights here in Modesto. I was talking to an 1864 02:44:39,430 --> 02:44:45,350 M.J.C. Ag teacher today and he mentioned that with our water rights if these 1865 02:44:45,350 --> 02:44:49,370 data centers find out or maybe they already know, they're going to want to flock 1866 02:44:49,370 --> 02:44:53,950 here, huh, flock cameras, which we also don't need. They're going to want to come 1867 02:44:53,950 --> 02:44:58,710 here and take our water because we have those water rights that are long-stage. 1868 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,040 We can not let that happen. Wealth. People are really struggling. AI debt centers bring maybe 12 jobs for people. That is nothing. It only gives wealth to the rich, to the billionaire class who don't care about us, who are willing to kill us and sacrifice us for their profit. The cost of electricity will be out of control. People are not content here. 1869 02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:32,080 So if we want to look at contentment, people are miserable. 1870 02:45:32,740 --> 02:45:37,780 Grocery prices are out of control while these grocery companies are making billions upon 1871 02:45:37,780 --> 02:45:39,020 billions of dollars. 1872 02:45:39,820 --> 02:45:41,420 Gas prices are through the roof. 1873 02:45:41,580 --> 02:45:45,940 And again, these companies like Shell and Chevron making billions and billions of dollars. 1874 02:45:46,480 --> 02:45:50,300 While the everyday people here, your constituents are struggling. 1875 02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:53,420 There are so many unhoused neighbors here. 1876 02:45:54,140 --> 02:45:57,560 Our poor neighbors out on the street, they are not content here. 1877 02:45:57,560 --> 02:46:04,580 And we aren't even helping them out, but we're considering possibly a data center, even though you say you're not, but like clearly we don't really leave you. 1878 02:46:05,240 --> 02:46:16,180 Health, we've talked about the detriment to our health, but it has been proven and shown that where these data centers are built, bees are dying. 1879 02:46:16,880 --> 02:46:19,120 We cannot live without the bees. 1880 02:46:19,120 --> 02:46:22,600 The United States has 2,500 native bees. 1881 02:46:23,040 --> 02:46:25,640 California has 1,500 native bees alone. 1882 02:46:26,340 --> 02:46:28,120 If the bees die, we die. 1883 02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:30,520 If we don't have water, we die. 1884 02:46:31,420 --> 02:46:35,260 Near a data center, the farmers and ranchers have been 1885 02:46:35,260 --> 02:46:37,660 staying that their calves are being still born. 1886 02:46:38,480 --> 02:46:41,100 The huge data center that they want to build in Utah, 1887 02:46:41,680 --> 02:46:44,440 the amount of heat, which again won't be as big as this one 1888 02:46:44,440 --> 02:46:48,280 that might be considered, is the equivalent of every day 1889 02:46:48,280 --> 02:46:55,020 23 atomic bombs of heat going off. That is horrifying. So, again, do we want water wealth 1890 02:46:55,020 --> 02:46:59,640 contentment health for the ultra-rich, or do you want that for your residents? Thank 1891 02:46:59,640 --> 02:46:59,860 you. 1892 02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:00,560 You're welcome. 1893 02:47:02,320 --> 02:47:06,960 Next is Alissa. Alissa? 1894 02:47:19,160 --> 02:47:30,000 Hello, I didn't want to repeat anything of what was reiterated earlier. My name is Alissa 1895 02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:33,900 My mom was born and raised in Modesto and my grandmother lives here and I wanted to stand 1896 02:47:33,900 --> 02:47:37,800 in solidarity with Central Valley by Pop Coalition and the Mass Coordinates. 1897 02:47:38,020 --> 02:47:40,700 I am a plaintiff on the case, so I won't go into detail. 1898 02:47:42,140 --> 02:47:49,940 But I'm hearing a lot of contention and grievance and there are actors here who work with two and 1899 02:47:49,940 --> 02:47:56,980 a half times who is being investigated by state agencies, by the FBI, and so I just really 1900 02:47:56,980 --> 02:47:58,680 would hate to see that happen here. 1901 02:48:01,060 --> 02:48:05,160 And anyways, my experience with witnessing the state 1902 02:48:05,160 --> 02:48:11,000 violence that has been reinforced by you guys and your bureaucratic process and lack 1903 02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:16,540 thereof, I would hope point of clarification today. Do you guys follow Rosenberg's 1904 02:48:16,540 --> 02:48:21,280 will of order or Robert's will of order because you're not doing either or so you do not 1905 02:48:21,280 --> 02:48:27,420 chair correctly and again these points can also go into a case of you not 1906 02:48:27,420 --> 02:48:30,980 leading and facilitating correctly and that itself is a former state violence 1907 02:48:30,980 --> 02:48:35,880 here constituents here tonight. As organizer of Central Valley by 1908 02:48:35,880 --> 02:48:39,740 Pop Coalition we sit in solidarity with the family of Paul Chavez who was murdered 1909 02:48:39,740 --> 02:48:48,580 by MPD and I only got to know Brittany his spouse for a little bit and she 1910 02:48:48,580 --> 02:48:54,680 She pleaded for her boys and for her likelihood and she died with a heart attack in her sleep 1911 02:48:55,260 --> 02:48:56,060 finding for justice. 1912 02:48:57,900 --> 02:49:02,520 You guys know about the people on the ground who are fighting for our communities, for 1913 02:49:02,520 --> 02:49:05,080 communities of color who already don't have a lot. 1914 02:49:08,540 --> 02:49:11,480 It's not about your career, it's not about your donors, it's about the people that you 1915 02:49:11,480 --> 02:49:11,800 serve. 1916 02:49:12,460 --> 02:49:18,840 And I remember the tit for tat that Eric Alvarez gave to some of the protesters saying in 1917 02:49:18,840 --> 02:49:26,120 emails. What is your why? And so I asked tonight, what is your why? Thank you. You're welcome. 1918 02:49:27,420 --> 02:49:34,000 Next, Pam Bauer. Pam Bauer? She's gone. 1919 02:49:37,850 --> 02:49:38,530 Thank you. 1920 02:49:41,920 --> 02:49:42,940 Ryan Bertson? 1921 02:49:52,390 --> 02:49:55,750 Good evening. I didn't plan 1922 02:49:55,750 --> 02:50:02,230 to say anything that I, this is very unplanned so sorry if it's what off the cuff. This should 1923 02:50:02,230 --> 02:50:08,990 kind of be like a slam dunk, you know, the data center thing, obviously, because you have 1924 02:50:08,990 --> 02:50:15,070 to wonder like, okay, these people are proposing a data center. Who does that benefit, does 1925 02:50:15,070 --> 02:50:20,990 it benefit our constituents? We're all kind of saying no, right? So there should be like 1926 02:50:20,990 --> 02:50:26,030 a pretty clear response unless maybe there's like another reason why you aren't being very 1927 02:50:26,030 --> 02:50:31,130 vocal about it, and just for clarification, they can answer questions, right? But you're 1928 02:50:31,130 --> 02:50:36,970 or not. And I kind of, you can't help but wonder why you aren't answering questions. 1929 02:50:38,650 --> 02:50:44,250 So I kind of think maybe it's because you can't answer questions. I know that you're 1930 02:50:44,250 --> 02:50:50,870 being told not to by the city attorney. But I wonder if there's any other reasons why 1931 02:50:51,890 --> 02:50:57,230 someone kind of just go person to person asking some questions. Mr. David Wright, are you 1932 02:50:57,230 --> 02:51:01,710 you under an NDA by North Point or any other institution that wants to build data centers 1933 02:51:01,710 --> 02:51:02,150 for your Modesto? 1934 02:51:05,500 --> 02:51:10,720 I will just make one statement that this is not a question and answer time. 1935 02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:15,740 It's our time since you asked to listen to you. 1936 02:51:16,520 --> 02:51:20,620 Right, but I want your answers and you are able to answer questions, you are allowed to. 1937 02:51:21,400 --> 02:51:24,160 So go ahead and take some of my time to answer those questions, I am told you okay with 1938 02:51:24,160 --> 02:51:24,320 that. 1939 02:51:25,340 --> 02:51:27,380 Again, I ask you, then I am going to go across the board. 1940 02:51:27,380 --> 02:51:27,880 David, right? 1941 02:51:28,040 --> 02:51:34,180 Have you signed an NDA saying you were by anyone from North Point or anyone else? 1942 02:51:35,100 --> 02:51:35,480 No. 1943 02:51:35,740 --> 02:51:35,840 Okay. 1944 02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:36,880 Jeremiah Williams. 1945 02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:41,500 Have you been as the Senate NDA or have you signed an NDA by North Point or anyone else 1946 02:51:41,500 --> 02:51:43,680 asking to just put it in the center of the Modesto? 1947 02:51:45,240 --> 02:51:45,500 Okay. 1948 02:51:45,820 --> 02:51:46,240 Nick Bavaro. 1949 02:51:46,600 --> 02:51:47,120 Same question to you. 1950 02:51:47,500 --> 02:51:47,880 Data centers. 1951 02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:50,500 Have you signed an NDA saying you can't talk about it? 1952 02:51:55,060 --> 02:51:55,460 Wonderful. 1953 02:51:56,460 --> 02:52:00,680 Joseph Lopez, City Manager, have you signed an NDA saying you can't talk about any of these 1954 02:52:00,680 --> 02:52:03,040 data centers from North Point or any other parties which is in the building of the centers. 1955 02:52:07,410 --> 02:52:09,850 Have you signed an NDA from North Point? 1956 02:52:11,410 --> 02:52:11,810 Interesting. 1957 02:52:12,030 --> 02:52:12,090 Good. 1958 02:52:13,310 --> 02:52:14,290 Jose M. Sanchez. 1959 02:52:15,090 --> 02:52:19,090 Have you signed an NDA from North Point or any other institutions looking to build data centers 1960 02:52:19,090 --> 02:52:19,630 from Modesto? 1961 02:52:22,090 --> 02:52:23,610 Just go ahead and answer if you want to. 1962 02:52:23,710 --> 02:52:23,890 It's cool. 1963 02:52:26,010 --> 02:52:26,590 Chris Rickey. 1964 02:52:26,710 --> 02:52:29,710 Have you signed an NDA from North Point or any other institution looking to build data centers 1965 02:52:29,710 --> 02:52:30,190 from Modesto? 1966 02:52:31,010 --> 02:52:32,530 No, I haven't had any conversations. 1967 02:52:33,030 --> 02:52:33,230 Cool. 1968 02:52:33,230 --> 02:52:37,830 Eric Yolvres, have signed an NDA from North-Foyer or any other institution looking to build data 1969 02:52:37,830 --> 02:52:38,550 finance here in Modesto. 1970 02:52:39,370 --> 02:52:41,530 No, I haven't had a conversation with him. 1971 02:52:41,850 --> 02:52:42,210 Okay. 1972 02:52:43,330 --> 02:52:47,710 You've been paid to come out and speak and ask these particular questions. 1973 02:52:47,710 --> 02:52:48,110 Ridiculous. 1974 02:52:48,370 --> 02:52:49,750 Concerned me as a constituent, best. 1975 02:52:49,890 --> 02:52:50,590 You're going to join me? 1976 02:52:50,730 --> 02:52:51,270 I can get you. 1977 02:52:51,410 --> 02:52:53,070 Rosa, have you... 1978 02:52:53,070 --> 02:52:53,910 Can you answer this question? 1979 02:52:54,130 --> 02:52:54,930 I'm going to ask my questions. 1980 02:52:55,030 --> 02:52:55,530 Are you following me? 1981 02:52:55,610 --> 02:52:55,910 Can you get any? 1982 02:52:56,150 --> 02:52:57,330 Oh, okay. 1983 02:52:57,530 --> 02:52:58,430 We will maintain order. 1984 02:52:58,930 --> 02:52:59,150 I know. 1985 02:52:59,190 --> 02:52:59,970 Head to the question, sir. 1986 02:52:59,970 --> 02:53:03,490 Have I haven't paid? No, I haven't. This affects me. It's a citizen of this town. 1987 02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:10,930 So you can ask us questions, but we can't ask you questions. 1988 02:53:11,850 --> 02:53:16,230 We're conducting the business. We're conducting the people through time. 1989 02:53:16,370 --> 02:53:17,310 We're conducting the people through time. 1990 02:53:18,050 --> 02:53:22,670 Next on the business. Public comment is Christa H. 1991 02:53:23,570 --> 02:53:24,090 Good stuff. 1992 02:53:25,910 --> 02:53:30,830 Hello, I actually want to read from the agenda that we all received. 1993 02:53:31,230 --> 02:53:34,110 This is from the public comment period section. 1994 02:53:34,910 --> 02:53:40,090 Under state law, council members may respond to matters being presented under this item 1995 02:53:40,090 --> 02:53:41,050 only as follows. 1996 02:53:41,730 --> 02:53:46,170 A, to briefly respond to statements made or questions raised. 1997 02:53:46,170 --> 02:53:52,690 First, be, ask a question for clarification and another relevant point. 1998 02:53:53,250 --> 02:53:59,410 Finally, a council member or the council itself may take action to direct staff to place 1999 02:53:59,410 --> 02:54:01,570 a matter of business on a future agenda. 2000 02:54:02,530 --> 02:54:08,610 With that being kept in mind, I have a question for the city attorney if this is a valid question 2001 02:54:08,610 --> 02:54:11,750 that the council members would be able to answer. 2002 02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:17,670 I want to ask each person individually, would you as a resident of Modesto support a data 2003 02:54:17,670 --> 02:54:18,850 center being built here? 2004 02:54:20,010 --> 02:54:23,030 Is that something that they have the ability to answer? 2005 02:54:27,320 --> 02:54:34,020 Jose Sanchez, I'm asking you if they have the ability to answer that. 2006 02:54:34,020 --> 02:54:39,260 Excuse me, I'm conducting the meeting so I've told him that if you'd like to make a comment 2007 02:54:39,260 --> 02:54:39,540 here. 2008 02:54:39,820 --> 02:54:45,340 To discuss, the concern here about answering the questions is that the item related to 2009 02:54:45,340 --> 02:54:46,860 centers is not on the agenda. 2010 02:54:47,400 --> 02:54:48,700 And that's pursuing to the Brown Act. 2011 02:54:48,960 --> 02:54:50,920 When we start engaging in discussion, 2012 02:54:51,100 --> 02:54:53,560 the council discusses an item that's on the agenda, 2013 02:54:54,020 --> 02:54:55,240 that's the violation of the law. 2014 02:54:55,540 --> 02:54:57,420 You are correct that the agenda does have. 2015 02:54:57,780 --> 02:54:59,540 If, for example, there was a clarifying question, 2016 02:54:59,640 --> 02:55:00,740 if you were talking about something 2017 02:55:00,740 --> 02:55:03,080 and a council member needed to clarify a question 2018 02:55:03,080 --> 02:55:05,100 or direct staff to provide you information, 2019 02:55:05,580 --> 02:55:07,420 that would be perfectly valid, just like you read. 2020 02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:09,880 But when we start talking about the actual item, 2021 02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:12,120 as far as are you going to support a moratorium, 2022 02:55:12,580 --> 02:55:14,220 are you going to vote yes, are you going to do this? 2023 02:55:14,220 --> 02:55:16,060 and the council starts interacting, 2024 02:55:16,600 --> 02:55:18,100 then that potentially causes them to, 2025 02:55:18,140 --> 02:55:20,700 they start discussing an item that's not on the agenda, 2026 02:55:20,880 --> 02:55:22,520 agenda is on the document you're holding, 2027 02:55:22,900 --> 02:55:25,860 the actual agenda that the public knew 2028 02:55:25,860 --> 02:55:27,440 is an item going to be discussed. 2029 02:55:28,300 --> 02:55:30,700 When you do that and you start discussing an item, 2030 02:55:30,980 --> 02:55:32,420 then somebody may say, wait, 2031 02:55:32,680 --> 02:55:34,260 I would have gone to that meeting if I knew 2032 02:55:34,260 --> 02:55:36,360 that data center was going to be up for discussion. 2033 02:55:36,820 --> 02:55:38,440 I think that's why you see the caution 2034 02:55:39,020 --> 02:55:42,100 of answering questions just so they could start, 2035 02:55:42,240 --> 02:55:43,480 not start discussing the item. 2036 02:55:43,480 --> 02:55:51,340 But that's it. If the item was agendized, there would be a discussion up here, more robust discussion. 2037 02:55:51,980 --> 02:55:56,820 Okay, so in response to it, thank you for that. Thank you for the clarification. In response to that, 2038 02:55:56,960 --> 02:56:05,240 given point E, that a council member or the council itself may take action to direct staff to place a matter of business on the future agenda. 2039 02:56:06,260 --> 02:56:13,180 Is anyone here willing to do that tonight? Again, left to right. David Wright, are you willing to put it on a future agenda? 2040 02:56:13,180 --> 02:56:15,520 and be that council member that does say. 2041 02:56:15,680 --> 02:56:19,620 I think the original statement that the mayor read, 2042 02:56:19,840 --> 02:56:22,680 that it's going to be on the future agenda down the road. 2043 02:56:25,440 --> 02:56:27,240 I don't believe that was made clear, 2044 02:56:27,500 --> 02:56:28,580 but again, thank you. 2045 02:56:29,020 --> 02:56:32,320 Jeremiah Williams, would you be able to commit tonight 2046 02:56:32,320 --> 02:56:34,920 to making that a future agenda item? 2047 02:56:37,810 --> 02:56:38,350 The item. 2048 02:56:39,010 --> 02:56:42,550 The item in question concerning the data center, 2049 02:56:42,790 --> 02:56:45,890 there's really no deliberation that we've had 2050 02:56:45,890 --> 02:56:47,670 to even bring that up at this point. 2051 02:56:49,190 --> 02:56:55,030 Okay, so that's, you know, Nick Bavaro, would you be willing to bring it as a point for 2052 02:56:55,030 --> 02:56:59,890 a future council meeting, as a council member that has the ability to do so right now? 2053 02:57:00,670 --> 02:57:12,470 I would bring a request agenda item to first implement or vote on a moratorium that I would 2054 02:57:12,470 --> 02:57:20,170 do first. I don't believe we're at the point now to put it on the agenda because quite 2055 02:57:20,170 --> 02:57:25,210 honestly, I have not gathered, done my due diligence and I haven't gathered all the data. 2056 02:57:25,890 --> 02:57:32,230 This is something that's come up just in a couple of weeks and so I have not prepared 2057 02:57:33,190 --> 02:57:39,090 100% take a strong position when we're the other because I still need to gather data. 2058 02:57:39,090 --> 02:57:50,930 But I would request a future agenda item to put a moratorium to give us time to look 2059 02:57:50,930 --> 02:57:51,470 into. 2060 02:57:53,310 --> 02:58:00,530 Are you willing to commit to doing that, even if it's a moratorium, again, is anybody 2061 02:58:00,530 --> 02:58:05,530 tonight willing to commit to getting this on a future agenda seeing how concerned the 2062 02:58:05,530 --> 02:58:06,130 community is? 2063 02:58:06,130 --> 02:58:11,370 I would ask the city attorney on the process of how I would make that request. 2064 02:58:12,030 --> 02:58:14,970 All right, so you've exceeded your time. 2065 02:58:15,450 --> 02:58:15,870 I'm sorry. 2066 02:58:16,370 --> 02:58:17,030 Okay. 2067 02:58:17,130 --> 02:58:17,810 Thank you. 2068 02:58:18,110 --> 02:58:18,430 Thank you. 2069 02:58:18,970 --> 02:58:19,290 Thank you. 2070 02:58:19,330 --> 02:58:20,390 Next is Alex. 2071 02:58:21,090 --> 02:58:21,330 Again. 2072 02:58:21,990 --> 02:58:22,670 Alex. 2073 02:58:24,330 --> 02:58:25,650 Alex here. 2074 02:58:28,220 --> 02:58:28,680 Okay. 2075 02:58:29,800 --> 02:58:30,340 Okay. 2076 02:58:30,640 --> 02:58:30,820 Check. 2077 02:58:33,190 --> 02:58:35,930 How about Jack Gilstrip Bar? 2078 02:58:36,970 --> 02:58:37,690 Jack. 2079 02:58:38,250 --> 02:58:38,590 All 2080 02:58:42,110 --> 02:58:42,250 right. 2081 02:58:42,250 --> 02:58:53,290 that is the last of the speaker requests cards. Is there anyone else online seeing 2082 02:58:53,290 --> 02:58:55,590 that one online? Okay, thank you. 2083 02:59:09,880 --> 02:59:12,780 Is it okay to be up here? Yes, yes, it is. 2084 02:59:13,120 --> 02:59:18,960 Made it a whole thing real quick, so my name is Jessica. 2085 02:59:27,970 --> 02:59:28,490 Jessica said, 2086 02:59:28,490 --> 02:59:32,470 and that there's going to be a council meeting 2087 02:59:32,990 --> 02:59:34,650 that you guys are going to talk about it later. 2088 02:59:34,970 --> 02:59:37,190 Yet one thing I will say is, 2089 02:59:37,350 --> 02:59:38,950 I haven't seen anybody taking notes. 2090 02:59:39,870 --> 02:59:41,490 I haven't seen maybe you guys are, 2091 02:59:41,570 --> 02:59:43,690 oh, okay, cool, awesome, thank you for showing me that. 2092 02:59:43,950 --> 02:59:44,450 I've needed that. 2093 02:59:44,950 --> 02:59:45,650 I appreciate that. 2094 02:59:45,790 --> 02:59:46,650 Yes, awesome, great. 2095 02:59:47,990 --> 02:59:51,050 Another thing I will say is, yeah, no, that's awesome. 2096 02:59:52,710 --> 02:59:54,290 You don't want to read it, you find it. 2097 02:59:54,290 --> 02:59:56,230 No, that's okay, that's okay, it's fine. 2098 03:00:00,780 --> 03:00:30,160 I did notice today was back to school. Today was the first day everybody went back to school. And I find it a little bit ironic that the youth are going back to school. Families are getting busy again. We had all summer to sit here, have meetings, discussions, so on and so forth. But I think that there needs to be a little bit of a better planning situation in accordance with like trying to reach out to the youth. 2099 03:00:30,160 --> 03:00:35,540 to invite them to town council meetings to maybe develop them in that aspect of getting 2100 03:00:35,540 --> 03:00:42,760 more involved or things of that nature. So I did actually go to Riverbank last week 2101 03:00:42,760 --> 03:00:50,980 for the Riverwalk city council meeting too and it's not just because Modesto's Modesto 2102 03:00:50,980 --> 03:00:56,400 and Riverbank's Riverbank, it's more so we're a county we're in this together, it's not, 2103 03:00:56,400 --> 03:01:03,120 not, you know, whatever we designated to sit here and be the land that you were chosen 2104 03:01:03,120 --> 03:01:06,940 to take care of, right? So, 2105 03:01:09,280 --> 03:01:12,540 I would just like to say thank you for listening to me, 2106 03:01:12,900 --> 03:01:16,880 and yeah, that's about it. Have a good night. 2107 03:01:20,990 --> 03:01:23,990 I believe something raised their hand. Would you like to speak? 2108 03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:45,260 Good evening, council members. Our city has a pretty simple little 2109 03:01:45,260 --> 03:01:50,560 motto of water, wealth, contentment, and health. These are words that I've seen every day 2110 03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:59,520 since I was infinitely young. A, a data center here in Modesto would destroy all pillars 2111 03:01:59,520 --> 03:02:05,180 of that. Our water would be irreversibly ruined, unsuitable for human consumption or agricultural 2112 03:02:05,180 --> 03:02:11,480 use. We, the average Californian or Modestonian, would not see any wealth from these data centers 2113 03:02:11,480 --> 03:02:17,420 It's been brought up before that they only give about like 12 jobs and in the log run only profit the rich and powerful 2114 03:02:17,420 --> 03:02:18,280 Silicon Valley 2115 03:02:19,360 --> 03:02:25,360 They will do nothing for us and everything to us with the noise pollution and 2116 03:02:25,360 --> 03:02:29,660 Droning and all the rising utility costs. We will not be content here in Modesto 2117 03:02:30,360 --> 03:02:34,680 We are not content with your lack of commitment against this proposal 2118 03:02:34,680 --> 03:02:38,520 It may be repeating that these data centers are unhealthy for us 2119 03:02:38,520 --> 03:02:43,940 The further pollute are already poor and water quality, the water and our faucets will 2120 03:02:43,940 --> 03:02:44,580 turn brown. 2121 03:02:44,780 --> 03:02:45,360 This has happened. 2122 03:02:45,640 --> 03:02:48,680 It is documented that it horribly pollutes water. 2123 03:02:49,500 --> 03:02:51,540 I would like to drink water but I can see through. 2124 03:02:52,960 --> 03:02:56,620 Is the motto of our city so cheap that you would sell us out to North Point? 2125 03:02:57,660 --> 03:02:58,340 Thank you. 2126 03:02:58,920 --> 03:02:59,560 You're welcome. 2127 03:03:02,870 --> 03:03:08,150 Is there anyone else wishing to speak under public comment for those in person or online? 2128 03:03:08,150 --> 03:03:12,940 If you're interested in speaking, please come. 2129 03:03:14,700 --> 03:03:16,780 Good evening, Mayor, members of the council. 2130 03:03:16,940 --> 03:03:18,300 It's been a while since I've been up here. 2131 03:03:19,320 --> 03:03:22,080 And I'd like to take you back in time, about three hours, 2132 03:03:22,460 --> 03:03:24,840 when these chambers were packed. 2133 03:03:25,460 --> 03:03:26,780 How often has that happened? 2134 03:03:28,240 --> 03:03:31,060 When the chamber is packed, that means it is an issue, 2135 03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:34,200 it is of concern to every single member of our community. 2136 03:03:34,680 --> 03:03:37,980 I notice that the computer people that are on Zoom 2137 03:03:37,980 --> 03:03:40,240 are quite prolific as well. 2138 03:03:42,100 --> 03:03:46,120 So did any of you watch Nightly Business Report last night? 2139 03:03:48,470 --> 03:03:49,090 I did. 2140 03:03:49,650 --> 03:03:54,410 There was a wonderful article on it about many communities that are now regretting 2141 03:03:54,410 --> 03:03:58,550 their decision to allow a data center in and they're trying to have them close down. 2142 03:03:59,290 --> 03:04:04,350 I would like you all to do your job to make sure we are not one of those communities with regrets. 2143 03:04:04,350 --> 03:04:11,190 So listen to your constituents and please ban AI data centers from being built here. 2144 03:04:11,490 --> 03:04:11,990 Thank you. 2145 03:04:11,990 --> 03:04:12,430 You're welcome. 2146 03:04:19,140 --> 03:04:19,620 Please. 2147 03:04:22,710 --> 03:04:22,810 Hi. 2148 03:04:24,850 --> 03:04:26,810 So yeah, I'm not used to do any of this. 2149 03:04:27,110 --> 03:04:29,590 So please, I don't know. 2150 03:04:30,030 --> 03:04:31,610 Yeah, give me grades, I guess. 2151 03:04:32,030 --> 03:04:37,490 But I wanted to say that, first of all, I'm very proud of my fellow constituents for exercising their civil duty. 2152 03:04:37,710 --> 03:04:39,290 Civil duty of being here. 2153 03:04:39,290 --> 03:04:45,750 I see and recognize many young faces and people that, you know, normally we are never here. 2154 03:04:46,370 --> 03:04:52,710 But this just shows how much we really care about our city, about our future, about, yeah, our environment. 2155 03:04:53,530 --> 03:05:00,950 And so over the course of this night, I witnessed several great points spoken against AI, data centers and surveillance. 2156 03:05:01,230 --> 03:05:08,570 But I also witnessed every constituent or almost everyone in this room lose trust in our governing system, 2157 03:05:08,570 --> 03:05:14,150 on loose trust and in you guys, they do not feel confident that you guys will represent 2158 03:05:14,150 --> 03:05:19,630 them, unfortunately. And I hope we are wrong, but that is just the impression. 2159 03:05:25,210 --> 03:05:27,730 It's whether 2160 03:05:29,080 --> 03:05:33,500 because they feel their voice does not matter or they feel the system is incompetent. 2161 03:05:33,940 --> 03:05:37,560 But when people lose hope and the system, they take matters into their own hands and resort 2162 03:05:37,560 --> 03:05:41,380 to violence. And I think none of us here want that. So please prove us wrong and please 2163 03:05:43,860 --> 03:05:50,540 I really do fear for our future and I really want you guys to prove us wrong, thank you. 2164 03:05:50,880 --> 03:05:51,240 You're welcome. 2165 03:05:52,180 --> 03:05:54,140 Next person, thank you. 2166 03:06:00,230 --> 03:06:00,370 Hello. 2167 03:06:01,210 --> 03:06:09,970 I am one of the many residents of Modesto that oppose the construction and proposal of allowing an AISID data center to settle down here in my city. 2168 03:06:11,170 --> 03:06:16,570 I am one of the many residents of Modesto who oppose the mass constructing a flock surveillance camera. 2169 03:06:17,190 --> 03:06:20,150 We do not have the resources to share with the data center. 2170 03:06:20,590 --> 03:06:22,730 It will kill our water supply and power supply. 2171 03:06:23,650 --> 03:06:29,130 I suggest that you watch interviews conducted on people who live in towns where AI data centers are established. 2172 03:06:29,450 --> 03:06:39,190 They discuss truly disturbing and heartbreaking circumstances, such as having to boil and filter water that comes out from their faucet and hardly any water coming out at all. 2173 03:06:41,340 --> 03:06:46,240 Float cameras destroyed privacy for the public, creating an opening for cameras to be used 2174 03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:48,860 as oppressive weapons against freedom of speech. 2175 03:06:49,940 --> 03:06:54,280 Float cameras will scan our faces and follow us around the web of cameras we find ourselves 2176 03:06:54,280 --> 03:06:58,360 tangled in and like a spider it will sink its fangs deep into our first amendment. 2177 03:06:59,500 --> 03:07:04,180 If you are not against constructing float cameras I recommend moving your bathtub and toilet 2178 03:07:04,180 --> 03:07:08,060 right underneath the Modesto Arc to understand the feeling we are trying to convey to you. 2179 03:07:09,240 --> 03:07:14,720 I am one of the many residents of Modesto and I can say with full confidence that we all 2180 03:07:14,720 --> 03:07:19,860 say no to AI and no to flock, do what is right for Modesto, say no with us. 2181 03:07:20,420 --> 03:07:20,920 Thank you. 2182 03:07:21,260 --> 03:07:21,480 Welcome. 2183 03:07:30,110 --> 03:07:30,590 Good evening. 2184 03:07:31,170 --> 03:07:36,350 My name is James Nelson and I've been in Modesto for pretty much part of my whole life. 2185 03:07:36,350 --> 03:07:45,870 So, it's a big concern about how the data centers and AI log and it's going to impact 2186 03:07:45,870 --> 03:07:52,350 the future and it's a travesty, let's get it come up when we don't stop it soon enough. 2187 03:07:56,530 --> 03:08:01,100 Our communities are already suffering and we don't need any more problems. 2188 03:08:01,280 --> 03:08:08,480 We need more help in our communities because people make this country run and we have 2189 03:08:08,480 --> 03:08:14,580 have more power behind ourselves with the community to make our future better. 2190 03:08:15,500 --> 03:08:19,960 But you guys have to represent our voices, that's your job for us. 2191 03:08:21,200 --> 03:08:26,620 And I hope you consider it, so thank you. 2192 03:08:27,020 --> 03:08:27,340 You're welcome. 2193 03:08:37,820 --> 03:08:40,720 Hi, Kevin McCarty, just Kevin McCarty district one. 2194 03:08:42,220 --> 03:08:47,860 Well, you know, I want to say that this is not a political footing. 2195 03:08:47,860 --> 03:08:55,680 ball. This is not a matter that you, you know, throw the, you figure up, we'll put your 2196 03:08:55,680 --> 03:09:03,140 finger up in the air to see which way to wind is blowing. This is not a political game 2197 03:09:03,140 --> 03:09:08,500 that we're playing here. This is having to do with people's lives, having to do with 2198 03:09:10,580 --> 03:09:24,000 the survival of humanity because these data centers are a threat to the existence of 2199 03:09:24,000 --> 03:09:32,500 bees and the bees are what we need to pollinate our food and so the very existence of humanity 2200 03:09:32,500 --> 03:09:40,220 is threatened by these data centers. And so this is not a matter of consulting with your 2201 03:09:43,540 --> 03:09:51,200 political advisor to ask, what should I do? What should I do? Should I balance it this 2202 03:09:51,200 --> 03:09:56,680 way or throw it this way or should I give a non-answer? How do I give a non-answer? 2203 03:09:56,680 --> 03:09:58,480 So this is not that kind of a matter. 2204 03:09:58,860 --> 03:10:07,180 This is too serious of a matter, and your political future is not what this is about. 2205 03:10:07,380 --> 03:10:12,700 This is about the people of Modesto and about the people of the Valley. 2206 03:10:13,140 --> 03:10:22,510 And I would like to remind Sue and the members of the council what it was like to grow up here. 2207 03:10:26,400 --> 03:10:28,560 I personally went to insulin school. 2208 03:10:28,560 --> 03:10:33,680 I think possibly soon that you also went to the infant school, but I'm not sure. 2209 03:10:34,080 --> 03:10:34,100 Yeah. 2210 03:10:35,960 --> 03:10:38,800 You and I would have been in the same grade, actually. 2211 03:10:39,420 --> 03:10:42,480 And you remember Miss Jones? 2212 03:10:43,200 --> 03:10:43,940 And this is Drake. 2213 03:10:45,160 --> 03:10:45,820 Miss Lunard. 2214 03:10:46,200 --> 03:10:46,520 He 2215 03:11:03,220 --> 03:11:04,280 remember taught 2216 03:11:06,590 --> 03:11:10,670 us about the importance of agriculture. 2217 03:11:12,150 --> 03:11:15,430 And they taught us about rotating crops. 2218 03:11:16,050 --> 03:11:21,310 and they taught us about the cow and they would bring a cow to school and they would 2219 03:11:21,310 --> 03:11:26,950 talk about the two stomachs and they would show us how to milk a cow and the 4-H club. 2220 03:11:29,470 --> 03:11:34,390 All of those things were tied to agriculture and we would go and we would walk down to 2221 03:11:34,390 --> 03:11:40,290 the rainbow bread plant and we would see how the bread is made from the green which is 2222 03:11:40,290 --> 03:11:42,090 grown on 2223 03:11:45,740 --> 03:11:52,940 the farms. That is what this is all about, Sue. It's about the 2224 03:11:52,940 --> 03:12:00,600 modest of the week grew up, and that is what we're trying to protect. And I ask you to protect it. Thank you. 2225 03:12:00,700 --> 03:12:01,040 You're welcome. 2226 03:12:01,620 --> 03:12:01,980 Ladies 2227 03:12:14,300 --> 03:12:19,760 and gentlemen, I find myself pretty unprepared. So the nerves are running a little bit. 2228 03:12:20,060 --> 03:12:27,260 But when I saw Chris' take talk, I felt compelled to show up to this and speak. 2229 03:12:27,260 --> 03:12:32,960 because I do feel this is an important matter that is falling upon our town. I do believe there's so 2230 03:12:32,960 --> 03:12:39,100 many matters historically that you can look at that you can compare to this situation. I find that 2231 03:12:40,140 --> 03:12:47,640 the presence of an AI data center will not only decrease the cost of homes where we already live in a 2232 03:12:47,640 --> 03:12:52,280 town where many people from the Bay Area sell their homes for a million dollars coming here and buy 2233 03:12:52,280 --> 03:12:56,800 five hundred six hundred thousand dollar home and that leaves us in a even bigger 2234 03:12:56,800 --> 03:13:04,400 predicament. The people in that area will find themselves not possibly even be 2235 03:13:04,400 --> 03:13:08,100 able to sell their home and that will lead to a small data center possibly 2236 03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:12,280 becoming a larger data center wanting to buy out the properties and the nearby 2237 03:13:12,280 --> 03:13:21,120 areas. I find that these data centers maybe all of your intentions are good but 2238 03:13:21,120 --> 03:13:26,060 But I believe these data centers will come here and try to infect your intentions and will 2239 03:13:26,060 --> 03:13:29,400 try to corrupt you, so to speak. 2240 03:13:30,060 --> 03:13:33,780 Whether all of you are good, I don't believe these data centers will come here with the 2241 03:13:33,780 --> 03:13:34,360 same presence. 2242 03:13:35,060 --> 03:13:37,060 These are people that aren't even from this community. 2243 03:13:37,800 --> 03:13:41,380 And I find some of you have been slandered tonight, and I don't know many of you. 2244 03:13:41,560 --> 03:13:46,220 And I find it sometimes unfair to witness it, but I do believe we have to hold our politicians 2245 03:13:46,220 --> 03:13:46,820 accountable. 2246 03:13:47,640 --> 03:13:51,680 But I do want to say I do appreciate everything that you guys do and try to do. 2247 03:13:52,780 --> 03:13:56,840 It is also saddened me sometimes to look at you soon because I feel like you do have good 2248 03:13:56,840 --> 03:14:01,900 intentions despite maybe your histories, maybe people in your circle drive you other ways 2249 03:14:01,900 --> 03:14:02,620 I don't know. 2250 03:14:04,300 --> 03:14:13,230 But when we look at these data centers and we look at our history of drought, who really 2251 03:14:13,230 --> 03:14:16,870 He takes precedence in the moment if we have another five-year drought. 2252 03:14:17,410 --> 03:14:23,450 Will they put you all in contracts and put the city in a contract where we emphasize 2253 03:14:23,450 --> 03:14:28,970 their needs of their water over our own, where we already receive letters from MIT and other 2254 03:14:28,970 --> 03:14:33,630 companies about the usage of our water, how we need to lower our shower times, our laundry 2255 03:14:33,630 --> 03:14:34,010 loads. 2256 03:14:36,490 --> 03:14:38,510 What else do I want to touch up on? 2257 03:14:39,850 --> 03:14:41,730 One minute, please. Oh 34 seconds. 2258 03:14:44,450 --> 03:14:50,090 Like I said, I found myself unprepared. Hopefully I can come more prepared next time, but I felt like I would have regret not speaking. 2259 03:14:50,430 --> 03:14:52,770 My mom's probably gonna see this and be like, what? 2260 03:14:53,690 --> 03:14:58,330 I do want to say that I had a recent ENT appointment for my nose and he said 2261 03:15:00,660 --> 03:15:21,580 I said to him, what's the diagnosis doc? And he said you live in Modesto. You're going to have nasal issues, you're going to have respiratory issues. And I find it disrespectful. A company comes to this community and tries to tear it apart and didn't even do their research on our water issues and on our agriculture. I'll respect the time. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. 2262 03:15:21,580 --> 03:15:22,280 anything 2263 03:15:32,930 --> 03:15:39,610 else wishing to come forward for items not on tonight's agenda? Is there 2264 03:15:39,610 --> 03:15:46,510 any online? All right, next on the agenda is consent items. An item may be removed 2265 03:15:46,510 --> 03:15:50,270 from consent and discussed at the request of a member of the public or council member. 2266 03:15:50,810 --> 03:15:54,570 Is there anyone in the council that would like an item removed for further discussion? 2267 03:15:57,080 --> 03:15:57,300 Is 2268 03:15:57,300 --> 03:16:01,960 there anyone in the public that would like an item removed from consent for further discussion 2269 03:16:01,960 --> 03:16:02,700 or comment 2270 03:16:06,860 --> 03:16:13,280 items five and nine for questions thank you you're welcome is 2271 03:16:16,030 --> 03:16:16,170 there 2272 03:16:16,170 --> 03:16:23,090 anyone online that would like if you're participating remotely please use 2273 03:16:23,090 --> 03:16:28,410 the raise hand feature now or dial star nine on a telephone to indicate you 2274 03:16:28,410 --> 03:16:32,390 wish to remove an item from consent I 2275 03:16:34,440 --> 03:16:37,420 do not see any online or any phone calls 2276 03:16:37,420 --> 03:16:41,020 All right, well the city clerk, please read the consent items. 2277 03:16:41,560 --> 03:16:45,900 Item 3, consider approving the minutes for the July 14th, 2026 council meeting. 2278 03:16:46,520 --> 03:16:53,940 Item 4, consider appointing a voting delegate to the 2026 Liga California City's annual conference to be held in Anaheim, California. 2279 03:16:54,460 --> 03:17:00,440 On September 23rd to the 25th, 2026, item 5 was removed from consent. 2280 03:17:01,200 --> 03:17:05,400 Item 6, consider approving the final map and subdivision improvement agreement. 2281 03:17:05,400 --> 03:17:12,380 with Modesto 92 LP at California Limited Partnership for the PPA-17 West Unit 2282 03:17:12,380 --> 03:17:18,760 subdivision consisting of roughly 18.735 acres, located east of Oakdale Road 2283 03:17:18,760 --> 03:17:27,700 and north of Floyd Avenue, APN-077-008-040. Item 7, considering approving the 2284 03:17:27,700 --> 03:17:32,380 final map and subdivision improvement agreement with KB Home North Bay LLC, 2285 03:17:35,100 --> 03:17:35,240 a 2286 03:17:35,240 --> 03:17:41,720 Arcadia Tivoli Unit 2 Subdivision Consisting of Roughly 10.64 acres located north of Silvan 2287 03:17:41,720 --> 03:17:50,120 on future area way APN 083006 054 item 8, consider accepting the Monthly Investment Report 2288 03:17:50,120 --> 03:17:53,960 for May 2026 and item 9, which are moved from consent. 2289 03:17:54,720 --> 03:17:55,720 All right. 2290 03:17:55,880 --> 03:17:58,820 May I have a motion to approve the consent calendar as read? 2291 03:17:59,180 --> 03:17:59,880 Motion to approve. 2292 03:18:00,080 --> 03:18:00,380 Second. 2293 03:18:02,540 --> 03:18:10,400 All right motion by Council Member Wright. Second by Council Member Alvarez. Will the clerk please call the roll for those items. 2294 03:18:11,060 --> 03:18:12,100 Council Member Bavaro. 2295 03:18:12,960 --> 03:18:13,120 Aye. 2296 03:18:13,500 --> 03:18:14,320 Vice Mayor Williams. 2297 03:18:14,620 --> 03:18:14,800 Aye. 2298 03:18:15,180 --> 03:18:15,960 Council Member Wright. 2299 03:18:16,140 --> 03:18:16,300 Aye. 2300 03:18:16,640 --> 03:18:18,020 Council Member Scootie-Ebration. 2301 03:18:18,220 --> 03:18:18,380 Aye. 2302 03:18:18,720 --> 03:18:19,700 Council Member Alvarez. 2303 03:18:19,800 --> 03:18:19,960 Aye. 2304 03:18:20,280 --> 03:18:21,060 Council Member Ricky. 2305 03:18:21,260 --> 03:18:21,440 Aye. 2306 03:18:21,660 --> 03:18:22,320 And Mayor Zwhalman. 2307 03:18:22,520 --> 03:18:22,700 Aye. 2308 03:18:23,080 --> 03:18:23,920 Curious unanimously. 2309 03:18:23,920 --> 03:18:29,760 We will go back to consent item five, consider approving an agreement for the 2310 03:18:29,760 --> 03:18:33,280 conveyance and purchase of right away from the Selving Unified School District, 2311 03:18:33,760 --> 03:18:38,600 receiving 1.89 acres for public right away, for public infrastructure, 2312 03:18:39,060 --> 03:18:43,400 for a total amount, not to exceed $1,250,000. 2313 03:18:43,760 --> 03:18:45,140 We will have a staff report. 2314 03:18:45,460 --> 03:18:48,900 Thank you Mayor City Council, Jessica Hill Director of Community and Economic Development. 2315 03:18:48,900 --> 03:18:53,300 And so this item is in regards to our typically specific plan area. 2316 03:18:53,920 --> 03:19:01,160 So back in 2009, the school district actually purchased a parcel of land about 13 acres to develop an elementary school in the future. 2317 03:19:01,780 --> 03:19:06,600 What they didn't anticipate was the land that they'll need to dedicate for the streets that need to be built in tibaly. 2318 03:19:06,960 --> 03:19:18,260 And so the city of Modesto's utilizing community facilities, districts, funds in order to purchase the land we need for the roadway associated with the roads adjacent to their school. 2319 03:19:18,260 --> 03:19:32,460 In turn, the school will actually use that funding to purchase some property directly to the south to ensure that they still have the full 13 acres and can build the size school that they were already anticipated to build with that. I'm happy to answer any question. 2320 03:19:32,580 --> 03:19:40,100 Thank you. For that report, any questions from council members regarding item 5, consent item 5. 2321 03:19:44,060 --> 03:19:46,080 Yes, please. Council Member Bavaro. 2322 03:19:47,780 --> 03:19:49,400 Jessica? I've got a question. 2323 03:19:51,510 --> 03:19:52,830 Thank you. Oh, my mic's on. 2324 03:19:54,990 --> 03:19:57,690 I'll just try speaking into it. There you go. 2325 03:19:57,890 --> 03:20:08,890 On the appraisal to my question during our briefing, was I thought that that was somewhat 2326 03:20:08,890 --> 03:20:18,470 expensive to pay that kind of money for that partial 1.8 acres or whatever. Can you explain 2327 03:20:18,470 --> 03:20:27,130 to the council the process and also to the public the process by which how you came up with 2328 03:20:27,130 --> 03:20:34,130 that dollar amount and who did the appraisals? Of course. So for Tivoli each year we actually 2329 03:20:34,130 --> 03:20:38,610 do a land appraisal out at Tivoli for our program called the voluntary land dedication program. 2330 03:20:38,610 --> 03:20:45,350 And so we have Cogdale and Associates who does a land appraisal every year and then 2331 03:20:45,350 --> 03:20:49,070 we take a three-year average of what that was and that's what the land value is for 2332 03:20:49,070 --> 03:20:50,970 those who are participating and dedicating land. 2333 03:20:51,250 --> 03:20:58,950 And so that amount was $440,000 per acre and so the total purchase price of the property 2334 03:20:58,950 --> 03:21:02,510 was $831,600. 2335 03:21:02,510 --> 03:21:09,710 There are some significant environmental reports that this district needs to do with 2336 03:21:09,710 --> 03:21:13,730 the new land that they're acquiring, which is that amount still up in the air, as well 2337 03:21:13,730 --> 03:21:16,370 as the legal fees associated within the surveying needed. 2338 03:21:17,010 --> 03:21:21,630 And so what we did is we created some buffer in case those came back a little bit higher, 2339 03:21:22,110 --> 03:21:25,670 but we do anticipate the cost to be about 935,000. 2340 03:21:25,670 --> 03:21:25,870 All 2341 03:21:28,720 --> 03:21:35,960 right. In the other questions from council members, seeing them, I will open this item 2342 03:21:35,960 --> 03:21:39,660 up to the public. I will ask members of the public to come forward. Or if you are 2343 03:21:39,660 --> 03:21:45,420 participating remotely, please use the raise hand feature now or dial star nine on a telephone 2344 03:21:45,420 --> 03:21:50,740 to indicate you wish to speak on this particular item. All right. Kevin, welcome. 2345 03:21:51,600 --> 03:21:57,920 Thank you. So my question is this is just for the right-of-way itself, right? It's not 2346 03:21:57,920 --> 03:22:05,540 for any infrastructure, not for any curbs or sidewalks or anything, it's just for the right 2347 03:22:05,540 --> 03:22:13,760 of way. And that's hard for me to grasp. I mean, that much money for something which 2348 03:22:13,760 --> 03:22:20,320 is really just on paper, really because it doesn't involve any infrastructure or concrete 2349 03:22:20,320 --> 03:22:27,580 or roadways or anything. It's really just on paper. So it's really just on paper. How 2350 03:22:27,580 --> 03:22:29,280 How does it get to be that expensive? 2351 03:22:30,900 --> 03:22:39,080 I know that you gave Mr. Pavarro an explanation but I didn't really understand it so when I'm 2352 03:22:39,080 --> 03:22:45,160 not understanding is how something that is just on paper, that is just a legal document 2353 03:22:45,860 --> 03:22:53,920 and does it not involve anybody building anything but their hands in sub costing $1.25 million. 2354 03:22:53,920 --> 03:22:57,660 dollars. All right. Thank you. Please reply. 2355 03:22:59,900 --> 03:23:02,500 Yes, thank you, Kevin. And so what it does 2356 03:23:02,500 --> 03:23:06,940 is actually, it's not just paper. So it's actually the purchase of physical land in 2357 03:23:06,940 --> 03:23:11,140 order to build the future street. And so we will have physical land that will then be owned 2358 03:23:11,140 --> 03:23:18,160 by the city adjacent to the school where we'll be able to then build those streets in that area. 2359 03:23:18,320 --> 03:23:22,660 And so it is purchase of physical land. I do have a copy of the staff report. I'm willing 2360 03:23:22,660 --> 03:23:26,000 to share with you as well just so you have kind of the breakdown of what that looks like. 2361 03:23:26,780 --> 03:23:34,320 All right, thank you. Any other public comments in person or online? I do not see any online. 2362 03:23:35,540 --> 03:23:47,720 I do not see any in person regarding item 5. So I will close public comments on this item. Any comments from council members regarding consent item 5? 2363 03:23:48,260 --> 03:23:54,480 Council member Bavaro did I see you no you did not do that no other comments 2364 03:23:54,480 --> 03:23:58,420 from council members all right I'm gonna ask guidance from the city attorney we 2365 03:23:58,420 --> 03:24:03,560 have two resolutions are they separate votes or are they together okay thank 2366 03:24:03,560 --> 03:24:09,900 you very much for that I have two resolutions a resolution of proving an 2367 03:24:09,900 --> 03:24:13,340 agreement from the for the conveyance and purchase of right away from the 2368 03:24:13,340 --> 03:24:19,200 the Sylvan Unified School District, receiving 1.89 acres of public right away from public 2369 03:24:19,200 --> 03:24:27,260 infrastructure in an amount not to exceed $1,250,000 in authorizing the city manager or 2370 03:24:27,260 --> 03:24:29,200 his designate to execute the agreement. 2371 03:24:29,900 --> 03:24:37,700 A second resolution amending the fiscal year 2026-27 non-capital multi-year project revenue 2372 03:24:37,700 --> 03:24:42,600 and expenditure budget to fund project number 101755 2373 03:24:42,600 --> 03:24:49,160 in the community facilities district number 2024-1 2374 03:24:50,160 --> 03:24:54,480 for the land acquisition purchase from the Silver Union School District 2375 03:24:54,480 --> 03:24:59,200 and amount not to exceed $1,250,000 to fund the purchase 2376 03:24:59,200 --> 03:25:02,740 and authorizing the city manager or his designated need 2377 03:25:02,740 --> 03:25:04,880 to implement the provisions of this resolution. 2378 03:25:05,120 --> 03:25:05,820 Do I have a motion? 2379 03:25:05,820 --> 03:25:13,400 So moved by Council Member Bavaro, seconded by Vice Mayor Williams. Will the clerk please 2380 03:25:13,400 --> 03:25:16,300 call the roll for this item. Council Member Bavaro. 2381 03:25:16,580 --> 03:25:17,820 Aye. Vice Mayor William. 2382 03:25:18,000 --> 03:25:19,220 Aye. Council Member Wright. 2383 03:25:19,480 --> 03:25:21,240 Aye. Council Member Scutthier Brayton. 2384 03:25:21,420 --> 03:25:22,840 Aye. Council Member Everett. 2385 03:25:22,980 --> 03:25:24,200 Aye. Council Member Ricky. 2386 03:25:24,420 --> 03:25:24,520 Aye. 2387 03:25:24,780 --> 03:25:25,480 And Mayor Zwollin. 2388 03:25:25,820 --> 03:25:33,440 Aye. Curious unanimously. Next is, excuse me, consent item 9. Consider approving the 2389 03:25:33,440 --> 03:25:39,100 plans and specifications for the airfield, airfield lighting control and monitoring system 2390 03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:45,600 and constant current regulator upgrades project accepting the bid and awarding a contract 2391 03:25:45,600 --> 03:25:52,520 to shame brand electric of Woodland, California for a total amount not to exceed $534,050. 2392 03:25:53,980 --> 03:25:55,140 We will have a staff report. 2393 03:25:55,800 --> 03:25:57,180 Good evening, the American Council. 2394 03:25:57,420 --> 03:25:57,680 Thank you. 2395 03:25:57,860 --> 03:25:58,460 My name is Chattery. 2396 03:25:58,520 --> 03:25:59,500 The Director of Public Works. 2397 03:25:59,500 --> 03:26:09,880 And tonight's item is to provide airfield lighting and control upgrade to the airport. 2398 03:26:10,300 --> 03:26:14,320 The project is estimated at about 534,000. 2399 03:26:14,680 --> 03:26:19,780 We're recommending that the contract be issued to Shane Brown, Electric of Woodland, California. 2400 03:26:20,540 --> 03:26:28,800 The project is 95% funded by the FAA and 5% funded by city funds. 2401 03:26:30,300 --> 03:26:33,480 And that is my report on the project. I can answer any questions. 2402 03:26:33,820 --> 03:26:39,400 All right. Are there any questions from council members regarding Consent Item 9? 2403 03:26:43,400 --> 03:26:47,860 Seeing none, I will open this up to the public. Is there any members of the public that could 2404 03:26:47,860 --> 03:26:53,960 come forward or if you are participating remotely? Please use the raise hand feature now or dial 2405 03:26:53,960 --> 03:26:59,140 star 9 on the telephone to indicate you wish to speak on this item. Welcome, Kevin. 2406 03:26:59,140 --> 03:27:09,220 Thank you. So I wanted to know, Mayor, if this is the blue lighting that is along the 2407 03:27:09,220 --> 03:27:16,620 runways themselves, or is this the perimeter lighting that goes along the exterior of the 2408 03:27:16,620 --> 03:27:17,000 runway? 2409 03:27:17,840 --> 03:27:18,760 Thank you. 2410 03:27:18,760 --> 03:27:19,020 Thank you. 2411 03:27:19,300 --> 03:27:20,260 Thank you. 2412 03:27:20,700 --> 03:27:26,120 And would you please respond so that we know? 2413 03:27:26,120 --> 03:27:31,780 Sure. This is for the airfield lighting. So the lighting along the airfield itself. 2414 03:27:32,360 --> 03:27:38,760 All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other public comments? I do not see any online? 2415 03:27:39,480 --> 03:27:45,080 No one in person regarding the silence. I will close public comments. Any comments from council members? 2416 03:27:46,920 --> 03:27:52,440 Council member Alvarez. Thank you, Mayor. I want to thank everyone. All the residents who came 2417 03:27:52,440 --> 03:27:56,620 I spoke on their concerns tonight. 2418 03:27:57,080 --> 03:27:59,820 Oh, this is, we're still on consent item 9. 2419 03:28:00,460 --> 03:28:01,980 All right. 2420 03:28:02,080 --> 03:28:02,800 Yes. 2421 03:28:03,380 --> 03:28:06,940 In the other council comments on consent item 9. 2422 03:28:07,640 --> 03:28:08,560 All right. 2423 03:28:08,800 --> 03:28:12,800 Seeing none, I need a motion to approve. 2424 03:28:13,200 --> 03:28:13,640 Second. 2425 03:28:14,000 --> 03:28:16,540 Excuse me, I'd like to be able to read the resolution first. 2426 03:28:17,220 --> 03:28:20,540 A resolution approving the plans and specifications 2427 03:28:20,540 --> 03:28:27,980 for the airfield lighting control and monitoring system and constant current regulator upgrades project 2428 03:28:27,980 --> 03:28:34,040 Accepting the bid and awarding a contract to shame brown electric of woodland, California and the amount of 2429 03:28:34,360 --> 03:28:41,080 $48,500 and authorizing change orders up to a cumulative amount of 2430 03:28:41,420 --> 03:28:47,060 $48,550 for a total agreement amount not to exceed 2431 03:28:47,060 --> 03:28:51,840 five hundred and thirty four thousand fifty dollars in authorizing the city 2432 03:28:51,840 --> 03:28:58,480 manager or his designate to execute the contract do I have a motion moved by 2433 03:28:58,480 --> 03:29:02,680 council member right second by council member Ricky will the clerk please 2434 03:29:02,680 --> 03:29:08,600 call the role for this item council member Bavaria by Mayor Williams I council 2435 03:29:08,600 --> 03:29:13,840 member right council member Sglitia Brayton I council member Alvarez council member 2436 03:29:13,840 --> 03:29:15,500 I'm Amber Bricki and Mayor Zwellin. 2437 03:29:15,660 --> 03:29:16,760 I carries unanimously. 2438 03:29:17,560 --> 03:29:20,420 Next on the agenda is council comments and reports. 2439 03:29:20,740 --> 03:29:24,640 Do any of the council members have any comments and reports? 2440 03:29:26,160 --> 03:29:29,460 Unfortunately, so many people are not here to hear them. 2441 03:29:29,560 --> 03:29:30,360 This is our comments. 2442 03:29:31,060 --> 03:29:32,340 Do you have a question? 2443 03:29:32,820 --> 03:29:33,400 Yes, Mayor. 2444 03:29:34,120 --> 03:29:42,740 I would like to ask the city attorney for guidance on how we would put an agenda item 2445 03:29:42,740 --> 03:29:51,440 to have a moratorium? Is this time to bring this up or how do we do this? 2446 03:29:52,220 --> 03:29:53,720 to the mayor. 2447 03:29:53,840 --> 03:29:54,000 Sure. 2448 03:29:54,300 --> 03:29:54,700 Please. 2449 03:29:55,860 --> 03:29:56,680 So come forward. 2450 03:29:56,940 --> 03:29:57,540 Appreciate it. 2451 03:29:57,540 --> 03:29:58,380 You usually 2452 03:29:58,380 --> 03:29:58,640 ... 2453 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:13,380 As the way that the council has done before is, during this time, if there was a request, a motion can be made to place an item on a future agenda. Is the council of the council would want to do? 2454 03:30:20,080 --> 03:30:35,460 All right. First name, I see is councilmember Bavaro? No, it's actually Jeremiah's asking the question. Next is councilmember Alvarez. Thank you, Mayor. As you stated, I wish this is a packed council chamber. 2455 03:30:35,460 --> 03:30:37,960 I think the frustration lies and not hearing us respond 2456 03:30:39,100 --> 03:30:40,520 substantively, which we cannot. 2457 03:30:40,740 --> 03:30:44,300 We can respond to inquiries or public comment, 2458 03:30:44,820 --> 03:30:49,680 just, you know, just little, just not substantively, right? 2459 03:30:50,180 --> 03:30:52,760 But this is the time during our council comments 2460 03:30:52,760 --> 03:30:56,180 where we can respond with substance. 2461 03:30:56,440 --> 03:30:59,940 So, which is why I always share my council comments 2462 03:30:59,940 --> 03:31:01,120 on my social media platforms. 2463 03:31:01,120 --> 03:31:02,960 In case you guys follow me or don't, follow me there. 2464 03:31:03,100 --> 03:31:04,500 I'll be posted, in case you missed it. 2465 03:31:05,760 --> 03:31:19,200 I want to talk about 4 things tonight, I want to talk about data centers, I want to talk about pop-ups, I want to talk about a low-riding event that was shut down, that was brought up by a member of the public, and I want to address cameras and LPR technology. 2466 03:31:19,860 --> 03:31:25,940 So I'll first start with data centers, so I want to thank everyone again who has taken the time to share their concerns regarding data centers. 2467 03:31:26,600 --> 03:31:30,900 I hear you, we hear you, and we take those concerns seriously. 2468 03:31:31,460 --> 03:31:36,060 As I previously stated on the record with the Modesto Focus, the city has a responsibility 2469 03:31:36,060 --> 03:31:38,320 to conduct research and understand the facts. 2470 03:31:39,800 --> 03:31:44,620 Our decisions must ultimately be based on what is in the best interest of Modesto residents. 2471 03:31:45,260 --> 03:31:49,020 For that reason, I would support a more torrent to be brought before the council on a future 2472 03:31:49,020 --> 03:31:49,400 agenda. 2473 03:31:53,180 --> 03:31:54,400 Next, I want to talk about pop-ups. 2474 03:31:55,240 --> 03:32:02,540 I appreciate the city staff, our deputy city manager, Alison Van Guilder, for meeting with 2475 03:32:02,540 --> 03:32:09,040 representatives of our pop-up community. And those discussions on a path forward have begun. 2476 03:32:10,140 --> 03:32:14,440 Economic development isn't just about attracting large employers or major developments. 2477 03:32:15,020 --> 03:32:18,420 It's also about creating an environment where local entrepreneurs and small businesses 2478 03:32:18,420 --> 03:32:22,920 have an opportunity to grow. I believe we have a responsibility to look 2479 03:32:23,500 --> 03:32:27,920 creatively and how we can accomplish pop-up events while maintaining appropriate health, 2480 03:32:27,920 --> 03:32:32,780 safety and accountability standards. That includes a separate lightweight 2481 03:32:32,780 --> 03:32:37,740 permitting track for small low-risk events, a micro permit process that is 2482 03:32:37,740 --> 03:32:45,580 faster and more affordable, or identifying our appropriate location, such as 2483 03:32:45,580 --> 03:32:49,880 downtown plazas, or underutilized commercial parking lots as I previously 2484 03:32:49,880 --> 03:32:57,040 stated, where these events can operate with clearly established guidelines. I'm 2485 03:32:57,040 --> 03:33:00,180 I'm not suggesting that we compromise our standards in any way. 2486 03:33:00,300 --> 03:33:03,700 I'm asking that we find a way to meet those standards without creating unnecessary barriers 2487 03:33:03,700 --> 03:33:04,660 to economic activity. 2488 03:33:05,880 --> 03:33:12,080 Other communities in our surrounding area and our region are finding ways to make this 2489 03:33:12,080 --> 03:33:14,460 work, and I believe Modesto can too. 2490 03:33:15,280 --> 03:33:20,300 So I'd like staff to continue working with representatives of the public community and 2491 03:33:20,300 --> 03:33:24,140 bring us a creative, workable options for moving forward. 2492 03:33:26,090 --> 03:33:28,470 Next, I want to address the low-riding event that was shut down. 2493 03:33:28,570 --> 03:33:29,910 I think it's about the end of July. 2494 03:33:31,310 --> 03:33:35,790 I don't recall the exact date, but I can get that in the future. 2495 03:33:36,390 --> 03:33:41,190 So I want to clarify the facts regarding the recent low-ride event that was shut down. 2496 03:33:41,630 --> 03:33:46,510 So the issue was not with the low-rider community or the gathering in and of itself. 2497 03:33:47,390 --> 03:33:51,810 The event did not have the proper permits required for activities taking place, 2498 03:33:52,750 --> 03:33:59,370 including the sale, I'm particularly including the sale of merchandise and amplified music or DJ. 2499 03:34:01,090 --> 03:34:06,570 I know these organizers personally as I'm active in the Meso-classic car scene in the low rider community, 2500 03:34:06,690 --> 03:34:15,670 this is my brother, my dad, these are our friends, these are our community members that we all know each other's families. 2501 03:34:16,430 --> 03:34:22,690 So they were informed before the event and they were informed of the appropriate permits that were required. 2502 03:34:23,230 --> 03:34:26,950 They knew what was expected and ultimately proceeded without obtaining them. 2503 03:34:27,410 --> 03:34:32,010 So I think it's important that we stick to the facts of which they know. 2504 03:34:32,790 --> 03:34:37,830 The organizers are aware of what occurred and why the event was politely asked to shut down. 2505 03:34:37,830 --> 03:34:42,230 And we look forward to working with these organizers moving forward to help them even 2506 03:34:42,230 --> 03:34:50,010 get just know-how on how to throughout these applications for permits for a future event. 2507 03:34:51,610 --> 03:34:54,910 And then lastly, I want to talk about cameras and LPR technology. 2508 03:34:55,170 --> 03:35:00,230 So I understand these are issues that need to be calibrated, but we should not lose sight 2509 03:35:00,230 --> 03:35:02,610 of why these tools exist in the first place. 2510 03:35:03,410 --> 03:35:07,470 to deter crime, identify those responsible, and protect our community. 2511 03:35:08,110 --> 03:35:14,570 We've already seen the public benefit of these technologies, copper wire theft 2512 03:35:14,570 --> 03:35:19,810 from HVAC systems on the roof of a local business on cross-lining road in District 2. 2513 03:35:20,570 --> 03:35:24,230 Camera technology helped provide accountability of who committed the crime, 2514 03:35:24,510 --> 03:35:26,650 and resulted in protecting a local mom and pop business. 2515 03:35:29,400 --> 03:35:33,480 Stolen trailers, license plate reader technology helped identify and recover stolen property, 2516 03:35:33,480 --> 03:35:37,040 and that otherwise would have been lost to the owners. 2517 03:35:37,900 --> 03:35:39,720 And this is in thousands of dollars we're talking about 2518 03:35:39,720 --> 03:35:42,160 that was recovered and returned to the appropriate owners. 2519 03:35:43,380 --> 03:35:45,740 Because of LPRs. 2520 03:35:46,300 --> 03:35:48,180 Vandalism of public and private property. 2521 03:35:50,940 --> 03:35:53,700 Chamber of footage has provided evidence 2522 03:35:53,700 --> 03:35:55,680 to identify those responsible for defacing 2523 03:35:55,980 --> 03:35:57,420 and destroying property of others 2524 03:35:57,420 --> 03:35:59,580 and holding them accountable for the crimes. 2525 03:36:02,070 --> 03:36:04,190 These are real examples of these tools 2526 03:36:04,190 --> 03:36:09,510 benefiting our residents, our businesses, our local mom-and-pop shops that are barely 2527 03:36:09,510 --> 03:36:14,250 making an insidious economy and ultimately our neighborhoods keeping them safe. 2528 03:36:16,680 --> 03:36:20,520 So I'd recommend the City and the Modesto Police Department continue to address legitimate 2529 03:36:20,520 --> 03:36:25,720 implementation concerns while preserving tools, these tools that produce public safety results. 2530 03:36:27,000 --> 03:36:34,240 Results that have resulted in double-digit decreases in commercial theft and residential 2531 03:36:34,240 --> 03:36:34,720 theft. 2532 03:36:37,820 --> 03:36:39,780 The city's intent is clear. 2533 03:36:40,820 --> 03:36:45,760 The turquoise protect the public, recover stolen property, and hold those who commit crimes 2534 03:36:45,760 --> 03:36:46,360 accountable. 2535 03:36:48,670 --> 03:36:54,670 Calibration, of course, can be calibrated on the issues that were set forth by the public. 2536 03:36:55,010 --> 03:36:55,250 Thank you. 2537 03:36:56,930 --> 03:36:57,530 Thank you. 2538 03:36:58,330 --> 03:36:59,730 Councilmember Scudia Brayton? 2539 03:37:00,430 --> 03:37:01,090 Thank you, ma'am. 2540 03:37:03,130 --> 03:37:09,750 Modesto really shined in. It came now in its ultimate beauty last week during a national 2541 03:37:09,750 --> 03:37:14,970 night out. And we all have the opportunity, all the council members, to engage actively 2542 03:37:14,970 --> 03:37:20,170 with our first responders, firefighters, the police department, and other first responder 2543 03:37:20,170 --> 03:37:26,390 personnel with our community. All the community parties that we all participated in were 2544 03:37:26,390 --> 03:37:36,610 done over hours in over a three-digit degree, it was over a hundred degrees, so but nevertheless 2545 03:37:36,610 --> 03:37:47,370 it was a joy to have community engage with city officials and just build bridges, strengthen 2546 03:37:47,370 --> 03:37:54,890 our communication and our trust and again just brought out the beauty that is Modesto, so 2547 03:37:54,890 --> 03:37:57,750 I really enjoyed my time during National Night Out. 2548 03:37:59,130 --> 03:38:05,390 In regards to everyone that came out today, as strong as the passion was in voicing 2549 03:38:05,390 --> 03:38:09,850 everyone's concern, it was delightful to see this many people be passionate and want 2550 03:38:09,850 --> 03:38:11,530 to have their opinion expressed. 2551 03:38:13,310 --> 03:38:21,250 Being an effective official in my opinion requires us to listen to everyone that comes to these 2552 03:38:21,250 --> 03:38:27,130 Council meetings, whether it's a 15-minute public comment session or over a three-hour 2553 03:38:27,720 --> 03:38:38,190 public comment session as it was tonight. Also, we are required not only out of being 2554 03:38:39,600 --> 03:38:46,620 an effective elected official, but morality to listen to others as well as we do by the 2555 03:38:46,620 --> 03:38:53,660 multiple emails that we receive as we do by the multiple calls, texts, people that come 2556 03:38:53,660 --> 03:38:59,720 to our offices in person. So we are required to listen to them as well. And we are required. 2557 03:39:00,140 --> 03:39:08,840 And it is our due diligence to listen to our city staff that do their due diligence and 2558 03:39:08,840 --> 03:39:16,020 thoughtfully and thoroughly going out there and getting factual data and finding out 2559 03:39:16,020 --> 03:39:21,100 So, turning over every stone they need to turn over to come back and brief us with the 2560 03:39:21,100 --> 03:39:22,140 good, the bad, and the ugly. 2561 03:39:22,820 --> 03:39:31,880 And it's only after all that takes place that we can make a comprehensive informed 2562 03:39:34,700 --> 03:39:35,440 decision. 2563 03:39:37,280 --> 03:39:39,740 Doing otherwise would be irresponsible. 2564 03:39:43,280 --> 03:39:46,640 I of course have an opinion on data centers. 2565 03:39:48,640 --> 03:39:49,240 But, 2566 03:39:51,870 --> 03:39:58,290 you know, it actually is not that different from what was said here today. 2567 03:39:59,270 --> 03:40:04,330 But I feel it is my responsibility, once again, to listen to everyone. 2568 03:40:04,690 --> 03:40:12,930 And those in this room, as I very respectfully, as we very respectfully did, but everyone 2569 03:40:12,930 --> 03:40:18,770 that approaches us with a thought or an opinion on the same subject, I am open to having a 2570 03:40:18,770 --> 03:40:25,850 conversation around a moratorium, a lengthy moratorium, I am open to having a 2571 03:40:25,850 --> 03:40:34,290 conversation about branding it all together. But it's not if that conversation's 2572 03:40:34,290 --> 03:40:40,170 going to happen. It's when that conversation's going to happen. I personally will 2573 03:40:40,170 --> 03:40:48,090 be prepared to have that conversation only once I have spoken to all those 2574 03:40:48,090 --> 03:40:53,190 groups because the input, the collective input from all those groups, it's what's going 2575 03:40:53,190 --> 03:40:59,670 to inform and influence my decision. I feel that's the fair approach and the responsible 2576 03:40:59,670 --> 03:41:02,550 thing to do. So I just wanted to share that with you all. Thank you. 2577 03:41:05,380 --> 03:41:07,820 All right. Council, 2578 03:41:12,070 --> 03:41:15,610 next we have Council Member Ricky but we will defer to Vice Mayor Williams 2579 03:41:15,610 --> 03:41:18,270 at this time and then I will get back to Council Member Ricky. 2580 03:41:18,270 --> 03:41:25,110 Thank you, Mayor. Late June, there was a situation that took place at Biopark. Four individuals 2581 03:41:25,110 --> 03:41:31,270 saved the life of a young man or individual by the name of Larry. He was dead in the 2582 03:41:31,270 --> 03:41:40,970 restroom at Biopark. And TJ found him as a softball team mate, saw him there, and four 2583 03:41:40,970 --> 03:41:47,610 other individuals helped him to revive this individual. And I am very, very pleased to have 2584 03:41:47,610 --> 03:41:53,870 given those four individuals, certificates, the fire department gave them. Challenge coings, 2585 03:41:54,250 --> 03:42:01,210 but two of them are here. It's George here today, George, or just, um, just you, or Royal. Royal, 2586 03:42:01,430 --> 03:42:05,710 it's just step four, just a little bit so they can see who you are. But four of these individuals 2587 03:42:05,710 --> 03:42:08,650 took the time out to save somebody. 2588 03:42:10,830 --> 03:42:15,490 They're phenomenal. It's really, really difficult for us to 2589 03:42:15,490 --> 03:42:20,030 We always acknowledge any and everybody that does a lot for our community alongside 2590 03:42:20,030 --> 03:42:23,410 our public and first responders. 2591 03:42:23,950 --> 03:42:28,530 But we commend you for taking time out to save this man's life. 2592 03:42:28,950 --> 03:42:34,110 And yesterday, we were able to share pizza together at mountain mics, hand you the certificates. 2593 03:42:34,510 --> 03:42:37,410 God bless you and the rest of the four for what you did. 2594 03:42:37,650 --> 03:42:39,510 And that's all I have to say today, Mayor. 2595 03:42:40,010 --> 03:42:40,250 All right. 2596 03:42:40,430 --> 03:42:40,790 Thank you. 2597 03:42:41,550 --> 03:42:42,190 Thank you. 2598 03:42:42,290 --> 03:42:43,510 Thank you so much for being here. 2599 03:42:44,170 --> 03:42:45,050 appreciate you. 2600 03:42:47,630 --> 03:42:54,690 This is being recorded so you can go back home and share that with the rest of the 2601 03:42:54,690 --> 03:43:01,630 fellas who did that great work so thank you again and God bless you. Thank you. Council member 2602 03:43:01,630 --> 03:43:09,570 Ricky. Thanks mayor. I just want to thank everybody tonight for their thoughts on AI data centers. I 2603 03:43:09,570 --> 03:43:15,470 know that they are going to have a huge impact, not only on our community, but on the world. 2604 03:43:16,710 --> 03:43:19,830 And your opinions matter, and I'm glad that you shared them with us. 2605 03:43:20,690 --> 03:43:25,690 My personal opinion is that, based on your feedback, and not just here at this council meeting, 2606 03:43:25,690 --> 03:43:30,350 but just the conversations people have been having online, the conversations that we've 2607 03:43:30,350 --> 03:43:38,270 heard through the media, I think the city should impose a moratorium on data centers. 2608 03:43:38,270 --> 03:43:44,710 and I also am interested in the city exploring an ordinance that bands the I 2609 03:43:44,710 --> 03:43:51,270 data centers altogether. I have serious concerns about data centers. I think 2610 03:43:51,270 --> 03:43:59,090 that they use far too much energy and that energy use has dramatic impact on 2611 03:43:59,090 --> 03:44:05,270 residential rates and that's not something that I support. Their water use is 2612 03:44:05,270 --> 03:44:10,430 It's also, you know, is very questionable to me and I think also impacts not only our 2613 03:44:10,430 --> 03:44:12,910 water supply, but also our water rates. 2614 03:44:13,870 --> 03:44:21,350 And I also believe that there are serious concerns on the impacts of AI data centers 2615 03:44:21,350 --> 03:44:27,050 on people's jobs prospects, people's job prospects here in Modesto. 2616 03:44:28,250 --> 03:44:30,930 And so I just think that we need to be proactive. 2617 03:44:30,930 --> 03:44:38,250 We need to listen to our community and we need to work to protect our community. 2618 03:44:38,810 --> 03:44:39,210 Thank you, Mayor. 2619 03:44:39,750 --> 03:44:40,130 You're welcome. 2620 03:44:40,830 --> 03:44:42,270 Next council member, right? 2621 03:44:43,010 --> 03:44:43,490 Thank you, Mayor. 2622 03:44:44,030 --> 03:44:51,070 I, too, wanted to just thank everybody who came out to National Night Out in my district. 2623 03:44:51,530 --> 03:44:57,610 And there was, I think we had 10 different parties going on and I wasn't able to get to all of them. 2624 03:44:57,610 --> 03:44:57,650 Okay. 2625 03:44:58,050 --> 03:44:58,230 Yeah. 2626 03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:29,960 Great night. Weather was actually cooler than I thought it was going to be, which was nice for all of us. One of the things I want to talk a little bit about tonight is all the residents that came out speaking about data centers. It's always been my priority to protect their residents here in Modesto, our quality of life, our environment, and our water, and we do what's best for our city. And I think those are the key 2627 03:45:29,960 --> 03:45:34,460 factors that all of us here on this council look at and that we want to do 2628 03:45:34,460 --> 03:45:40,300 what's best for this city. Water is important. City of Modesto has done a great 2629 03:45:40,300 --> 03:45:46,280 job. We've cut our water used by 40% over the last 20 years and that is 2630 03:45:46,280 --> 03:45:55,640 fantastic. Our reserves in our groundwater is one of the highest levels that you 2631 03:45:55,640 --> 03:45:58,040 we'll see anywhere in California. 2632 03:45:58,780 --> 03:46:01,780 Our electric rates are some of the lowest here 2633 03:46:02,180 --> 03:46:04,240 in California. 2634 03:46:05,040 --> 03:46:08,960 So those are items that we really need to look at to protect. 2635 03:46:10,000 --> 03:46:14,840 And so those are the areas that I look for when anything 2636 03:46:14,840 --> 03:46:17,400 comes to this council no matter what it is, 2637 03:46:17,780 --> 03:46:20,420 making sure that our residents are protected, 2638 03:46:20,660 --> 03:46:24,020 our waters protected, our quality of life here is protected. 2639 03:46:24,020 --> 03:46:29,360 And also, what can we do to bring more quality jobs to this area? 2640 03:46:30,440 --> 03:46:32,360 Anyway, thank you, Mayor, for letting me see. 2641 03:46:32,360 --> 03:46:32,600 All right. 2642 03:46:32,920 --> 03:46:33,040 Yes. 2643 03:46:33,520 --> 03:46:33,840 All right. 2644 03:46:34,320 --> 03:46:38,400 I see some more names again, repeating Nick Bavaro. 2645 03:46:39,460 --> 03:46:40,180 Thank you, Mayor. 2646 03:46:42,900 --> 03:46:48,940 I'm going to, I was originally going to talk about my right out with the police department, 2647 03:46:49,400 --> 03:46:50,460 my quarterly right out. 2648 03:46:50,460 --> 03:46:56,840 And also national night out I'll save that for the next meeting due to time. 2649 03:46:58,240 --> 03:47:18,000 But I just wanted to say a few things about the data centers and quite honestly the council works in the beginning of the year, January, February, city management will listen to the council on what our priorities are. 2650 03:47:18,000 --> 03:47:25,120 And our vision on how we're going to move forward with the City of Modesto. 2651 03:47:26,060 --> 03:47:47,400 And we talked about the priorities this year were the general plan, homeless shelters dealing with the homeless shelters in our city, the public safety, negotiating a new service agreement with the garbage haulers and 2652 03:47:47,400 --> 03:47:53,440 making that more transparent and as well as the landscaping contract. 2653 03:47:53,960 --> 03:48:02,160 So there's a lot of things on our plate this year that the City Council has worked hard 2654 03:48:02,160 --> 03:48:03,540 and kept very busy. 2655 03:48:05,040 --> 03:48:17,380 So when the data centers came up in my email couple, maybe a week and a half ago, this was 2656 03:48:17,380 --> 03:48:23,160 And so really don't have a background. 2657 03:48:23,340 --> 03:48:24,940 I have not done any due diligence. 2658 03:48:25,680 --> 03:48:28,820 I haven't really had any in-depth staff briefings 2659 03:48:28,820 --> 03:48:30,480 on data centers. 2660 03:48:31,180 --> 03:48:35,560 And so somebody came up to speak, gentlemen, 2661 03:48:35,700 --> 03:48:38,840 back here a little while ago, said that he apologized, 2662 03:48:39,280 --> 03:48:42,020 that he wasn't prepared with his comments. 2663 03:48:43,140 --> 03:48:47,140 And I am not prepared to make any votes 2664 03:48:47,140 --> 03:48:53,520 on data centers at this time. I have to do my due diligence. You know, my district that I 2665 03:48:53,520 --> 03:49:00,520 represent expects me to do my job and to do it thoroughly without knee jerk reaction 2666 03:49:01,780 --> 03:49:12,040 and well of, you know, people bringing arguments to a council pro and con about a topic. So I really 2667 03:49:12,040 --> 03:49:18,360 need to be prepared. And I also need to listen to our staff, our city management who really 2668 03:49:18,360 --> 03:49:27,820 gets into the weeds on the due diligence. But the bottom line is that, you know, I agree 2669 03:49:27,820 --> 03:49:30,360 with what was said tonight by a lot of people. 2670 03:49:32,740 --> 03:49:37,720 But, you know, we need to make sure that the 2671 03:49:37,720 --> 03:49:45,400 The most important thing is that our quality of life vision is not disrupted. 2672 03:49:45,820 --> 03:49:50,580 We need to make sure that we maintain the course and this stuff takes time. 2673 03:49:51,120 --> 03:49:55,060 There is not an application for data centers. 2674 03:49:55,660 --> 03:50:04,180 There I have not been contacted by anybody to lobby me or talk to me and whoever I meet 2675 03:50:04,180 --> 03:50:08,300 with everybody even if I disagree with them I'm going to meet with them that's my job 2676 03:50:09,080 --> 03:50:18,840 and so I would support a moratorium only if the data center companies were pushing back 2677 03:50:19,330 --> 03:50:25,840 and challenging the city's position that you know it's not allowed because it's not in 2678 03:50:25,840 --> 03:50:31,880 our municipal code at this time so if that was challenged I would I would say yeah let's 2679 03:50:31,880 --> 03:50:39,180 move forward with the with the moratorium, but this council does not or any council really does not 2680 03:50:40,460 --> 03:50:44,660 vote the next meeting on a knee jerk reaction. 2681 03:50:45,880 --> 03:50:54,620 Everything is thoroughly vetted and we are then what our constituents and our districts 2682 03:50:54,620 --> 03:51:10,360 and get feedback, so that's my position, and like I say, I just need to do the research necessary to make the right long-term decision on my vote. Thank you, Mayor. 2683 03:51:10,360 --> 03:51:15,160 You're welcome. Councilmember Alvarez. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate that Councilmember 2684 03:51:15,160 --> 03:51:21,680 Bavaro, that very, very thoughtful summary. I have done a relatively thorough research 2685 03:51:21,680 --> 03:51:26,920 on this subject over the past several years, called it a millennial thing, but I'm very 2686 03:51:26,920 --> 03:51:34,940 in tune with A.I.'s progression, data centers, water consumptions, closed-loop water systems 2687 03:51:34,940 --> 03:51:38,780 that have proposed that are just not reusing millions of gallons of water over and over. 2688 03:51:38,780 --> 03:51:43,040 Are they using billions of gallons of water over and over and over, not new one million 2689 03:51:43,040 --> 03:51:46,600 here today, another million tomorrow, they're using the same closed-loop system. 2690 03:51:49,560 --> 03:51:53,520 And despite that, I think that's the biggest factor of the environmental concerns. 2691 03:51:54,740 --> 03:52:05,380 Despite that, I would be supportive with what my colleague Councilmember Ricky proposed, which 2692 03:52:05,380 --> 03:52:10,800 is a whole ban on data centers in the city of Modesto because I just don't think even 2693 03:52:10,800 --> 03:52:20,380 if the research is conducted, I don't think that the cost benefits outweigh the cost 2694 03:52:20,380 --> 03:52:28,880 here. Just flat out and simple. I don't think that that is there. When I waive the cost 2695 03:52:28,880 --> 03:52:33,760 benefit analysis, I think there's more cost to the residents of Modesto's quality of 2696 03:52:33,760 --> 03:52:43,330 life, then the benefits of a data center being stood up by an out-of-the-state corporation 2697 03:52:46,590 --> 03:52:47,090 period. 2698 03:52:47,730 --> 03:52:48,150 Thank you, Mayor. 2699 03:52:48,970 --> 03:52:49,310 You're welcome. 2700 03:52:49,530 --> 03:52:50,230 Vice Mayor Williams. 2701 03:52:51,190 --> 03:52:51,790 Thank you, Mayor. 2702 03:52:52,170 --> 03:52:56,570 I wholeheartedly agree with everything that was said here on the council and my colleagues. 2703 03:52:57,630 --> 03:53:03,470 100% the fact of the matter is, you know, just a bit of stated two weeks ago or so. 2704 03:53:03,470 --> 03:53:11,150 this was dropped on our labs as council people and to represent you we're still 2705 03:53:11,150 --> 03:53:14,990 trying to get our head to I'm trying to still get my head to wrap around the 2706 03:53:14,990 --> 03:53:20,950 whole situation however California is a big place in my opinion there's 2707 03:53:20,950 --> 03:53:26,530 other places it can go there's other places it can flourish maybe even better 2708 03:53:26,530 --> 03:53:31,090 hopefully better than here due to the fact that we know nothing of I know nothing 2709 03:53:31,090 --> 03:53:35,350 about it and I appreciate those who have already looked into it. I appreciate each and 2710 03:53:35,350 --> 03:53:42,050 everyone that has come here tonight to voice their opinion. I would ask respectfully though 2711 03:53:42,050 --> 03:53:48,770 that you know you at least you could have been a little more kind towards us because we don't know 2712 03:53:48,770 --> 03:53:54,910 any more than what you know but the point of it is that I'm trying to say is I'm hoping that there's 2713 03:53:54,910 --> 03:53:59,750 another place for the data center other than Modesto and that's all I'm saying. Thank you Mayor. 2714 03:53:59,750 --> 03:54:00,630 You're welcome. 2715 03:54:00,930 --> 03:54:02,470 Any other comments at this time? 2716 03:54:02,870 --> 03:54:03,070 All right. 2717 03:54:03,250 --> 03:54:05,250 I'll end with my remarks. 2718 03:54:05,890 --> 03:54:10,810 A lot of things were said this evening, and much was discussed about losing trust. 2719 03:54:11,690 --> 03:54:18,570 In our council, recently I've been accused of secret meetings, so I thought that I would share 2720 03:54:18,570 --> 03:54:24,590 a little bit about my schedule, because there have been no secret meetings on any topic that 2721 03:54:24,590 --> 03:54:25,750 was discussed this evening. 2722 03:54:25,750 --> 03:54:32,290 So, I thought I would share a little bit about on Wednesday, July 22, I attended the California 2723 03:54:32,290 --> 03:54:37,370 Bio-Economy Innovation Campus Open House, which was discussed tonight being circular. 2724 03:54:37,590 --> 03:54:42,050 It is an incredibly exciting opportunity for our community, and I encourage everyone 2725 03:54:42,050 --> 03:54:45,330 that was involved here tonight to learn much more about it. 2726 03:54:45,870 --> 03:54:51,870 I attended the Steve May, end-of-watch memorial flag raising, honoring one of our police officers 2727 03:54:51,870 --> 03:54:54,770 that lost his life in the line of duty. 2728 03:54:54,770 --> 03:55:00,110 I attended the gifted little ones, play in sensory grand opening, ribbon cutting, an exciting 2729 03:55:00,110 --> 03:55:08,230 place where children, with many special needs, will have a play place to go and love in 2730 03:55:08,710 --> 03:55:09,790 our beautiful city. 2731 03:55:10,290 --> 03:55:14,890 I attended a sister city's barbecue with two young students from Laval France that were 2732 03:55:14,890 --> 03:55:18,170 enjoying Modesto and everything that we have to offer here. 2733 03:55:18,890 --> 03:55:23,770 Participated on July 29th in the Women's Council of Realtors called Pumps and Politics 2734 03:55:23,770 --> 03:55:29,570 panel. It was incredibly inspiring to be in a room full of dozens and dozens of women 2735 03:55:29,570 --> 03:55:35,530 that are interested in local politics. Thursday, July 30th, I met with Carson Wells, our 2736 03:55:35,530 --> 03:55:43,510 new reporter from KCR-A3. She graduated from Gregory High School, a college graduate that 2737 03:55:43,510 --> 03:55:49,050 is now working for Channel 3 and I've seen her on the news many, many times since an inspiring 2738 03:55:49,050 --> 03:55:54,370 young women. We heard a lot tonight about including young people. I went on a 2739 03:55:54,370 --> 03:55:58,770 Modesto City Schools facility bus tour and saw what all the incredible work 2740 03:55:58,770 --> 03:56:03,170 that's been done in our schools. That was Monday, August 3rd. That same day I 2741 03:56:03,170 --> 03:56:08,450 went to Johansson High School with Mary Ann and Minas to do a podcast called Be 2742 03:56:08,450 --> 03:56:14,310 the Change. Be the Change. Another inspiring moment with young people in our 2743 03:56:14,310 --> 03:56:21,890 community. Tuesday, August 4th, Crystal Creamery celebrated its 125th anniversary employee 2744 03:56:21,890 --> 03:56:28,490 appreciation event in our city. It was so exciting to be there to help them celebrate. 2745 03:56:29,010 --> 03:56:35,110 Also that day met with Sammy Easton Field Representative for Senator Adam Schiff to discuss 2746 03:56:35,110 --> 03:56:40,550 our priorities in the city of Modesto. August 4th, that was mentioned National Night Out. 2747 03:56:41,330 --> 03:56:48,170 What a beautiful evening in Modesto to celebrate all the neighborhood of parties and family 2748 03:56:48,170 --> 03:56:51,330 celebrations and neighbors just enjoying being together. 2749 03:56:51,890 --> 03:56:57,790 August 7th, the Mary Grogon Phase 2 ribbon cutting, which is just a dream when 40 years 2750 03:56:57,790 --> 03:57:02,750 ago for our city, and now that beautiful play structure and the soccer fields are used 2751 03:57:02,750 --> 03:57:06,830 with thousands and thousands of children enjoying soccer tournaments. 2752 03:57:06,830 --> 03:57:12,830 Just today, Tuesday, August 11th, Gallows Center for the Arts had a volunteer appreciation 2753 03:57:12,830 --> 03:57:16,810 lunch with 175 volunteers. 2754 03:57:18,030 --> 03:57:23,650 Some of them individually donate thousands of hours at our Center for the Arts to improve 2755 03:57:23,650 --> 03:57:24,410 our community. 2756 03:57:25,010 --> 03:57:28,990 I'm so inspired every day by this city and today was no exception. 2757 03:57:29,950 --> 03:57:33,930 Thank you, as I mentioned at the beginning, we always welcome the community's comments 2758 03:57:33,930 --> 03:57:37,190 and appreciate. Everyone has taken the time to share their thoughts. 2759 03:57:38,950 --> 03:57:44,410 Tonight we were accused some of us of not writing our comments down. Do you know 2760 03:57:44,410 --> 03:57:51,610 at these very meetings I've been blasted for writing comments? Tonight we were 2761 03:57:51,610 --> 03:57:56,130 accused of not writing them. Every one of these comments will be noted in the 2762 03:57:56,130 --> 03:58:01,470 minutes. They're tracked and they're in our minutes for anyone that wants to read 2763 03:58:01,470 --> 03:58:07,810 them. That's all in the spirit of transparency. If I heard correctly there may have been 2764 03:58:07,810 --> 03:58:10,910 a little threat of violence to us or to our families. 2765 03:58:13,410 --> 03:58:14,370 We hear you. 2766 03:58:16,900 --> 03:58:18,180 I have served, I served 2767 03:58:18,180 --> 03:58:22,020 eight years on the Modesto City Schools Board of Education in five and a half years on 2768 03:58:22,020 --> 03:58:27,340 this council that's 13 and a half years of participating in meetings just like this. And 2769 03:58:27,340 --> 03:58:36,700 I guarantee you, if a comment is made on any item that is not on an agenda, that that 2770 03:58:36,700 --> 03:58:43,360 is a flap in the face of transparency and public trust because the whole community has 2771 03:58:43,360 --> 03:58:49,440 not had the opportunity to hear these discussions tonight nor even see an agenda item. 2772 03:58:49,440 --> 03:59:01,180 and that is by law the essence of public trust and transparency. Thus the reason why I do what I do. 2773 03:59:02,180 --> 03:59:08,200 So I hope that we can restore public trust if there's any that has been lost. 2774 03:59:08,960 --> 03:59:16,580 It is my great desire to have trust in our community and I feel that this council has done a really good job 2775 03:59:17,240 --> 03:59:20,320 of establishing that trust, and I want that to continue. 2776 03:59:20,740 --> 03:59:22,780 Thank you so much for your engagement tonight. 2777 03:59:27,520 --> 03:59:32,460 Do any of the council members have any other further comments and reports? 2778 03:59:32,740 --> 03:59:35,800 Seeing none, does our city manager have any comments and reports? 2779 03:59:36,340 --> 03:59:37,300 Yes, thank you, Mayor. 2780 03:59:38,020 --> 03:59:43,640 How much press update is that the city is hosting a community meeting on the Pell and L street scape improvement project? 2781 03:59:43,640 --> 03:59:49,620 It would be Thursday, this Thursday, August 13th, the 6 o'clock at Mildred Perkins Elementary School. 2782 03:59:50,400 --> 03:59:58,720 My second update is the recent fatal collision involving an e-bocke writer as a heartbreaking reminder of how essential it is for everyone to prioritize safety on- 2783 04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:29,940 On our roads and trails, our community continues to grieve this loss, and the city remains committed to taking meaningful steps to help prevent future tragedies. In response to growing safety concerns and the increased use of bicycles, e-bikes, and other similar modes of transportation, the city has been working to strengthen our municipal code. We are finalizing the proposed updates, which include clear guidelines, restrictions, and regulations in certain areas, and increased penalties for violations. We hope to bring this to the council in the very near future. 2784 04:00:29,940 --> 04:00:39,540 And then Mayor, if you don't mind, I think I will weigh in a little bit on the data center just to provide some clarity of what has actually transpired. 2785 04:00:40,320 --> 04:00:44,720 We do not have an active application for a data center in Modesto. 2786 04:00:44,740 --> 04:00:46,000 It was a general inquiry. 2787 04:00:46,720 --> 04:00:50,560 The city has not been asked to sign a non disclosure agreement. 2788 04:00:50,680 --> 04:00:52,180 We haven't even been presented with one. 2789 04:00:52,280 --> 04:00:54,760 One hasn't even been contemplated in this situation. 2790 04:00:54,760 --> 04:01:02,940 And we've had maybe one to two calls, even inquiring about what a data center could come to Modesto. 2791 04:01:03,340 --> 04:01:04,900 Our response remains the same. 2792 04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:08,300 Our code does not allow for data centers in the city of Modesto. 2793 04:01:09,080 --> 04:01:14,140 With that being said, we are exploring what a moratorium would look like. 2794 04:01:14,460 --> 04:01:18,080 However, if the code is silent in this situation, they're not allowed anyway. 2795 04:01:18,600 --> 04:01:22,660 And it would require a code amendment for a data center to be brought to Modesto. 2796 04:01:22,660 --> 04:01:32,640 So if our goal is ultimately to ban data centers here in Modesto, we can simply update our code to make them prohibited in city limits outside of doing a moratorium. 2797 04:01:32,860 --> 04:01:39,240 That's not saying that we may not do a moratorium, but we're determining the necessity of a moratorium because it's not allowed anyway. 2798 04:01:39,780 --> 04:01:45,920 And so any changes that would need to occur would require the same kind of code amendment, whether we ban or have them. 2799 04:01:45,920 --> 04:01:50,560 And clearly, we're here loud and clear from our community this evening. 2800 04:01:50,720 --> 04:01:56,020 We're here loud and clear from the Mayor and City Council on their positions with respect to data centers. 2801 04:01:56,860 --> 04:02:03,040 We'll continue to do our due diligence and see the steps we need to take to best protect our community. 2802 04:02:03,520 --> 04:02:03,860 Thank you, Mayor. 2803 04:02:04,200 --> 04:02:05,080 Thank you for your comments. 2804 04:02:05,660 --> 04:02:07,780 Are there any matters too late for the agenda? 2805 04:02:09,700 --> 04:02:12,280 Seeing none, I'm calling this meeting at the City Council. 2806 04:02:12,280 --> 04:02:13,100 So be adjourned.