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All right. Good evening to everyone. Sorry for a little bit of a delay. Some technical difficulties on the mic. Got it taken care of.

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Welcome to the point of park city council, regular meeting on Thursday, August 11th at 5 p.m. The city council met in closed session earlier.

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So we've been working since three in meetings and I'm going to ask the city attorney if you have anything to report out from closed session.

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Mayor, is it on? Cool.

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Uh, record sure reflect as Mayor indicated the City Council recess in a closed session at 3 o'clock to discuss items 3 a through 3 e on your closed session agenda.

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Falling is my report 3 a conference legal council existing litigation the butterfly pavilion versus see when it part matter.

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City Council received a briefing from the city attorney's office and outside council on the status of this case had in a trial.

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No direction or action was taken.

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3B conference legal council existing litigation government code section 54956.9 for the Patel versus city when a part matter

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City attorney provided a briefing on the status of this case to the city council, but the case is not yet final and there's no action to report.

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And I'm three conference with labor negotiator government code section 54957.6 Mr. Eddie Fetton providing a briefing to the city council on the terms and conditions of employment.

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direction was provided but is not final or reportable at this time. 3D conference legal

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council anticipated litigation. City Council briefed the City Council on excuse me. The

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City Attorney briefed the City Council on facts and circumstances creating a potential

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significant exposure risk of liability against the city. No action or direction was provided.

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Item 3E conference. We will prop an negotiator for the property listed at 6591B full beach

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Boulevard, Mr. Aaron France provided a briefing to the City Council on the Price Terms and Conditions of Under Negotiation.

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Direction was provided, but it's not final or report. Thank you, Mayor.

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All right. Thank you. And now we'll officially adjourn that close session and call to order the regular meeting.

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Madam City Clerk, please call the roll.

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Council member on.

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Council member Franco ready. Council member Sonny your nice mayor. Hope, President Mayor Trout here

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And then just to confirm to our city attorney. I know I confirmed it before close session just want to make sure it's accurate

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You have two different things to read out now that are on our agenda. I just want to confirm that I can just point to the agenda

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on mentioning that this is here in person and on zoom. Yeah, that's correct on our

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As long as the city counts, make clear to the public that all of the public accessibility and online options are available printed on the agenda.

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That is adequate.

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All right.

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With the city attorney said, I don't need to repeat it.

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It was a long list.

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It would have been me talking for like three minutes.

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No one wants that.

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So we're going to have two things right now.

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First the invocation followed by the pledge of allegiance.

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So first we're going to have the invocation.

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This is led by Rabbi Lawrence Goldmark.

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Welcome and if everyone can please stand if you're able or if you'd like to

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it's great to be back

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during my

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long career as a rabbi. I have met

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inspirational people

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fabulous people and

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heading that list is a woman a

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Psychiatrist

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Who passed away, I believe about 20-plus years ago. Her name, Elizabeth Kubler Ross.

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And in the early 1970s, she wrote a book entitled On Death and Dying, which impacted

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I want to say all of us, but countless numbers of people, especially physicians.

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And it was my pleasure to meet her, and we became friends.

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And frankly, I wanted to share with you from one of the books that she wrote entitled,

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to live until we say goodbye, something that she wrote to me in that one of her books. I was

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going through a difficult time and she sent me these words. She said, should you shield the

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canyons from the windstorms, you would never see the beauty of its carvings.

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I need to repeat that. Should you shield the canyons from the windstorms, you would never

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see the beauty of its carvings, and sure, please remember that. And so, and this is my prayer

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all of us. We will never be able to share to go to rather not to have wind storms in our own lives.

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But the reality that Dr. Kubler asked gave to us is that we must be able to say,

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I have the strength to overcome these wind storms just as she did and became a blessing

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Do any of us on there?

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All right.

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And if everyone could please stay standing,

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and I'm going to ask that our young man

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who's going to lead us in the pledge.

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If you get start making your way up to the microphone,

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I want to just share a little bit about Jude.

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Jude is at over at Dicing your Elementary,

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starting up school again tomorrow.

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So thank you for being here at the day before your very

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fun first day of school.

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Who your teacher is, and it's an incredible teacher.

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So you're gonna have a great year.

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Jude is an amazing eight year old club member

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of the Boys and Girls Club of Buena Park,

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who will be entering fourth grade is a talented musician.

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He plays the keyboard in club rock.

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Jude is known for his kindness,

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unloving personality, wonderful sense of humor,

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an unforgettable British accent.

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I don't know if you're gonna be doing this

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in a British accent, but we could throw it on a word or two,

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let's see it.

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He brings joy and positive energy to everyone at the club.

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welcome and please lead us in the pledge. Please place your right hand over your heart.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

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for which it stands, one nation, under God,

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indivisible with the deep and justice role.

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Thank you again so much.

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All right, we're gonna have our city managers report,

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Aaron France.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Just two quick upcoming events.

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We wanted to make the public aware of the first being tomorrow night

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on Wednesday, the Symphony on the Go Orchestra

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will be performing at 6.30 p.m.

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at E-Lars Event Center.

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It's a free concert as we wrap up our summer concert series.

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Look forward to seeing you over at E-Lars tomorrow night.

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And then finally, Mr. Mayor, on Saturday, August 29th.

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At the same spot, E-Lars Event Center at Heritage Hall.

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We'll be having our construction career

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and apprenticeship resource fair from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.

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I know we have about 29 vendors so far.

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We're off to a great start.

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So, if you are interested in carpentry, pipe fitting, auto repair, HVAC, or any of the skilled trades,

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we highly recommend that you attend on Saturday, August 29th.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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All right, perfect.

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Great work to Vice Mayor Hoke for being the ones who have introduced that and made it such a big success last year.

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Last year, I mean, we were busted at the seams for that fair so if you're able to go, if you're looking for a job or no someone who is,

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There's on-site interviews, it's incredible. A lot of amazing well-paying opportunities in the trades,

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as well as city hall jobs that we will have folks learning about. So we're going to do a few

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presentations tonight. I'm going to take them in order as they're listed on the agenda for those

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that have an agenda in front of them. So we're going to start with a certificate of recognition

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to Emily Faust for completion of her youth micro grant project and I'm going to read a little bit

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about the project and herself. But I just want to see if Emily, if you can meet me down here,

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I'm just going to read a little bit about yourself. And then I'm just going to present you with

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these and we'll take some pictures.

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There we go. All right, we got it. We got it working. All right. So the

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youth and action micro grants program today. We have the honor of highlighting one of our outstanding

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young leaders at the successful completion of her youth micro grants program. And here before I keep

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reading. I just want to hand you these two if you want to open them up they have certificate in there.

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The microgram program empowers our young residents by providing the resources and connections they need

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to design and implement projects that directly benefit our community. One of this year's youth microgram

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recipients and this is an a full-on grant application that high school students have to fill out themselves

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super impressive. Was 10th grader Emily Faust? Are you going into 10th grade? Is that right?

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Going into 11th. So we'll update this. Going into 11th. Emily had had previously

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maintained a little free library in front of her family's own home as a place where as a

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place where neighbors could borrow and share books. It was a valued community resource, but

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over time the structure became worn down and eventually had to be removed. Through the Youth

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program Emily was able to install a new free little library in her community and restore an important resource to the neighborhood.

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Emily's project is a wonderful example of how young people can make a difference through community service.

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Her revitalized library will continue to inspire a love of reading and bring neighbors together for years to come.

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So I just wanted to on behalf of the City Council congratulate you Emily on the successful completion of your youth micro grant

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project and just thank you for our contribution to the community and just encourage you to continue giving back and inspiring others.

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So thank you so much.

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We want to do a picture.

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All right, so next I'm going to ask Carlos Franco to make his way down here, Council Member Franco,

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for the recognition of the fit committee and celebration of its tenth anniversary.

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So if you are on the fit committee or at any point you've been on the fit committee, come on up here,

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and Carlos is going to take it from here.

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Thank you, Mary, shout.

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I'm part of the Lesfit Committee,

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but I'm glad to recognize the rest.

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Now, tonight we're proud to honor the members

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of the Buena Park Fit Committee and recognition of 10 years

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of dedicated service to our community.

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And this is incredible ladies and gentlemen.

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As they make their way to join me in the well,

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the mission of the Fit Committee is to improve the health

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and wellness of Buena Park through the leadership and action

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the community works to reduce the obesity, promote physical activity, fitness, and encourage healthy nutrition and create opportunities for greater mobility throughout our community.

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I love the fact that they're all joining me, please.

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In 2016, a group of residents came together with a shared mission to work alongside city departments to reduce obesity and promote healthier lifestyles through nutrition seating and regular physical activity.

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Today, the Fit Committee is made up of dedicated volunteer community leaders who are committed

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to making Buena Park a healthier place to live, work, and raise a family.

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the Fit Committee has continued their work through monthly meetings and a variety of community

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programs. The committee has encouraged residents to grow fresh vegetables through community

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gardening projects, classes, and incorporate more fiscal activity into their daily lives

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by walking, biking, and using public transit. The committee has also advocated for improved

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paths and connections between homes, schools, and anti-smoking initiatives in Buena Park.

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For 10 years, the members of the Fit Committee before you have given their time, energy,

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and passions in making Buena Park a healthier community.

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Please join us in congratulating and recognizing the Buena Park Fit Committee for 10 years

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of outstanding service to our community, ladies and gentlemen.

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I have resignation certificates even for those taking some pictures, so we're going to have

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your way up here as well. But yes, incredible organization. I've attended their regular meetings

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whenever possible. And we're so we're proud of the work our youth is doing.

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And just know that the good work that you're all doing can be amplified when you come together as a community.

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And that's something that we're trying to put together. Buena Park is a very diverse community and everyone here's welcome.

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So whether you've given 15 years of services to this community or more, there's a good way we can make it better for Buena Park.

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Thank you. Let me pass out some certificates if I can make my way over there.

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Miss Brenda,

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Liz Beth Flores,

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and Dr. Martinez coming up soon with

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Alexander Alberto Vasquez,

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Miss Beth, I'm giving you a bonus too.

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Minerva Jimenez,

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Patti O, Patti O, you forgot to come up here.

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Ms. Claire, there's

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Ms. Diana, I just heard you.

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Alejandra, here.

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Sr. Norma,

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Analiliya Castro,

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and I may have some repeats,

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but we're gonna give

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you two more.

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And let's back you get another one too.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is also a recognition from our Senator's office, Mr. Tony

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Strickland who is recognizing the fit committee for their 10 years of service as well.

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So we'll post for a picture and and then that's it. Thank

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right. Next I want to welcome Anthony Wells from our public works department.

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We have a 15 year service award for you. Anthony, if you could join me up here.

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See, you're going to have to put this either on your hat or shirt.

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you're 15 year service pen.

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Even better you got a couple certificates from. We make sure to read

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their names that the assembly member and senator. Senator Tony Strickland, assembly member,

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Sharon Quark Silva, so I'll hand you those. And even better a certificate of congratulations

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from your favorite mayor of your favorite city.

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So I want to read a little bit about your service,

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so the rest of our community who doesn't, it doesn't yet know you or maybe hasn't met you,

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even though they've benefited from a lot of your work,

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I can learn a little more.

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So Anthony Wells has been a valued member

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of the Boena Park team now as you know,

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for 15 years.

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Anthony was hired back in 2011, the math adds up.

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As a part-time maintenance worker

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to in the then Parks and Recreation Department,

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he was promoted to maintenance help

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for back in 2013, and promoted to maintenance worker in 2014.

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In 2018, Anthony transferred to the Public Works

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departments streets maintenance division. In 2024, Anthony was promoted to his current role

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of senior maintenance worker. Anthony specializes in tree trimming and irrigation repair

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among many other skills such as asphalt, concrete, crack ceiling, and much more. Our roads

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are incredibly smooth and way apart relative to some of the cities around us in part thanks to

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Anthony so we can thank him. If you've got hot holes or other issues, blame the five of us on the

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Yes. To get that some more funding. Anthony is a father to four children and an avid golfer

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fisherman and a valued co-worker. Buena Park residents can see proof of his commitment every day

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as they navigate our city. It's much nicer way to say what I just said. Thank you Anthony for

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your 15 years of dedicated service to the people of Buena Park. Just want to see if you have any

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a few words. Maybe you would like to share. It's been a honor working here. I look forward to

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I'm going to work. I mean, I love my job. I live in the city, I work for the city, and I take pride in everything that I do, and anything I can do to help the residents, because I'm a resident. It's really honored to help all your residents, but any needs that you guys have.

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Awesome. Thank you so much again, Anthony.

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The next portion of the meeting. This one's a little shortest, I'll just read the whole thing as it shows. This is a public comment portion.

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Essentially, if you have anything to say that's not related to the agenda but is within the business of what we do as a city

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The school year moment to speak during public comment and the way to do it. You either fill out the there's like a

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There's a key ask in the entrance either put your name in on that or when people are done speaking

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I'll ask if anyone in the audience would just like to come up to the microphone and speak and you have three minutes to do so. Also

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We do have, I'm just going to check on Zoom, we do have the opportunity on Zoom, so those that are listening, you either use the raise hand function, click that button right now, or if you're calling in, click star 9, that's how we're going to see a raise to hand.

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So first of all, ask our city clerk before getting to folks speaking in person here, anyone on Zoom or any emails, public comment.

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We have no emails and we have no requests to speak on Zoom.

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All right, and then anyone in person that submitted requests?

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I believe we have a request from Mark Steele.

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Mike Steele.

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Mike Steele.

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Mike Steele.

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Welcome.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And

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then if you could pull up the microphone, so it's close to you.

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We had it.

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The little one out there doing the pledge.

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Okay.

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I am here because of the property has 72.

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54.

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Fill more.

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We live right behind it.

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I have actually been in contact with Lumia and sending her pictures.

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I actually filled out a 12-page thing about this property.

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We've been dealing with this property since probably about 2000 or so.

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I bought my house in 86.

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Anyway, the guy that owns this place has named Mr. Mayor.

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He has turned it into an apartment complex.

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And from what I understand, you're allowed to build a four-plex

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or a single family home with an 8888U.

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It's neither one of them.

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This guy has gutted the inside of his house, he's got an ad on Facebook, he rents out to anybody and there's been drug addicts.

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I mean, all kinds of creeps we've called the police so many times.

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Actually, I've got all the police reports in this fire.

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I want to mention too, also, about maybe five or seven years ago, all the neighbors filled this out.

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We all complained about this property and we gave it to the city attorney. Give it to the mayor whoever was the mayor there and nothing has been done, but the bottom line is

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They put up this AUD

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It's basically in our backyard. It's it's two story. There's three windows that look out.

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I've got to pull with high fences.

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I bought my house for, because I had a pool in privacy.

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I can't even swim in my pool.

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My wife goes out there.

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There's like two man up there looking down at her.

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I mean, it's ridiculous.

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We don't have any privacy.

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There's, there's, I actually sent pictures.

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Again, there's, there's 18 cars there.

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I don't know how many people live in this house.

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Our neighborhood looks like a used car parking lot.

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Anyway, it's destroyed our neighborhood.

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I've talked to three different realtors and they said that my property value is, nobody wants

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to buy my house because it's next door to that.

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I mean, it's ridiculous.

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We've got creeps every single night.

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We get woke enough with corridors going off and people out there talking, most of these people

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don't even have a job.

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We've called the police a lot of times, the police, unfortunately, can't get there for

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now or so. And I got to get up. I got, I've got a commercial window cleaning business out of the South Bay.

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I usually get up about 330 or 4 o'clock. I do great big huge buildings. I do country clubs,

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hospitals. And I need to get my sleep. And these people are waking everybody up in the neighborhood.

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I mean, there's people in and out all night long. It's driving us crazy. I mean, it's just,

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it's just ridiculous. And I would like to invite everyone of you to go by there early in the morning

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And look at our neighborhood, it's just, it looks like I can use a car a lot, it's an isor, it's pathetic.

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I mean, it's, we live in a nice neighborhood.

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This is just destroyed my, my, my pride of ownership that these people throw trash in my planners.

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And I'm just let you know the three minutes is up, but if you could wrap up in about 10 to 15 seconds.

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Okay, yeah, I, I had to put rocks in my parkway because one of these guys put a swastika,

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He poured some chemicals in there and I couldn't get my marathon on grass to grow,

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but we deal with this every day or this ADU too. Also, the doors on this side, they slam it.

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That's like 20 foot from my fence and they sit out there and talk.

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I mean, it's something needs to be done.

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And I, so yeah, I gave the flyer, please check it out.

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And thank you for for reaching out. I know that behind the scenes are, our, our by-smair has been

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doing a lot of incredible communication with staff on this and keeping me a

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prize in updated as well. We can only talk to one of the council member for

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Brown Act purposes, so the other might not know it, but I've gone out there myself

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to and checked it out. So I wanted to just ask because we can't make decisions

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for some public comment immediately, but if maybe our city attorney or whoever

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Aaron or city manager thinks is the best staff member can we get any sort of general update

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based on these discussions we've been having on that site is the type of response you can share and I know we're going to go on to we have a more public comment on it

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I just want to see if there's any staff response based on the public comment initially. Sure. Thank you Mr. Mayor.

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Our office is definitely engaged on this one. I know we've responded back to Mr. Steel. There are some limitations to what we could do out there due to state law.

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But nonetheless, we're working with our community development department on some options to sort of help out the neighborhood from a code enforcement perspective.

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I, we're definitely on top of some of the issues that Mr. Steel identified.

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They, the ADUs, a little bit trickier for us to deal with.

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But like I said, the community development director and I as well as the planning manager have had some discussions on some potential solutions out there.

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So, nothing we can do right now in terms of the multi-unit rental unit, but I think that will be

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something that we look at in the next couple of weeks. Thank you for giving that update.

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Yeah, I share a lot of your sentiments for that. But I want to make sure we continue

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with public comment. We have more people wishing to speak. I think you said your wife was going to

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Yeah.

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Welcome.

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Well, he pretty much covered it all.

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But me as a female, it's very scary to live there.

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My husband works in the daytime.

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I'm there alone by myself all day.

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And I don't even go to my backyard anymore because there are three windows looking right into

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backyard and they could see and through into our sliding glass door. So I have to make sure at

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all times that I have a robot and you know I'm in my own house and I have to make sure like I'm

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covered and I can't use my pool anymore because there's people that's sticking their heads out

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the window and they can just literally see and they're like two feet away from me and they've had

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Riff Raff in and out of there on drugs, up all night.

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Just they don't screen these people. There are just people that answer an add on Facebook. There are a lot of them are on drugs. They're up all night, babbling to themselves and it's, it's basically an apartment complex behind us and they even have their own mailbox and their own units.

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It says unit A, unit B, unit C, and like they have their own, it's, it's an apartment complex.

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It's not a, it's not home. It's not a family house. And that's why we moved into a family neighborhood

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instead of a condo or an apartment because we value our privacy. And I think we deserve it.

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That's about it. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. Yeah. Really quick. I know our code enforcement manager,

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Robert Cravens is in the back of the room, as well as our planning manager,

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Harold Lina, they both been engaged on this one.

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They're happy to talk to the steel family outside that, you know,

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suits you. So, and could you raise your hand the two individuals just so that

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that the steel is conceived real quick?

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Yeah, if you wanted to step outside and chat with them,

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even right now, that would be that'd be great. Yeah.

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But additional public comment.

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I have no other additional requests to speak.

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All right. Before I close this public comment portion, I see there's a few more folks from

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public. Anyone else wishing to speak? It public comment on a non agenda item right now.

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Okay. So seen none and I don't think I see anything else on Zoom. We're going to close this

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portion of public comment. And we're going to go on to our consent calendar. The items listed on consent

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are considered routine business. And we'll be voted on together and just by one motion,

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unless anyone on the the city council wants separate action or has any questions on any of the other ones.

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Any particular items on items for a through gosh read what for n.

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The anyone on council either has a question comment wants pulled for any reason.

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I'd like to move for consent.

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All right, so we have a motion for consent is there a second before I call just for public comment in general and consent.

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Second.

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Okay, so we have a motion and a second.

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And we're going to wave the reading of consent calendar.

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It's just going to be as printed on the agenda.

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Any public comments on consent?

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No, request to speak, Mayor.

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And then, if we could please select our vote.

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The consent calendar.

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Excuse me, consent calendar was approved unanimously.

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Perfect.

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And now we have a few of the new business items.

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Starting with 5A, this is going to be presented by High Sun,

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awarding a contract to Tunnel Works services incorporated for the 2526 and 2627 sewer

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main lining at various locations project.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members.

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I am here to present a resolution of proving plan specification and award of the contract

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with a ton of work services for the 2526 and 2026-27

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sewer mainlining at various location projects.

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And you'll be improving the sewer mainlining

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is a proactive measure at preserving the infrastructures

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integrity and prolong the lifespan of the city's sewer system.

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This maintenance help prevent issues such as leak and cracks

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and verify avoid avoiding more significant

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and then costly problem in the future.

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This project will include cleaning of the sewer mainlines,

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calcium removal, performing pressure-growing,

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installing glass reinforced UV liner

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to prevent infiltration and expiltration,

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installing top hats, et cetera, house laterals,

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and conducting a final video inspection.

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The project was advertised for the competitive

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competitive bid on July 14th of 2026, staff received one bid and publicly opened on July 3rd of the 2026.

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Tonneau Works was the sole response of bidder at $1,663,920.

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The contractor has the required license, experience, and completed similar works for the city of

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Garden Grove, Palm Springs, Claremont, and for this city of the Point Apart.

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This project is subject to comply with the Community Workforce Agreement.

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Construction is anticipated to begin in September of 2021, and anticipated complete in April of 2021.

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This project is funded by the Waste Water Enterprise Fund, and was included in the

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the fiscal year 2526 and fiscal year 2627 CIP budget.

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The total project cost including construction and construction contingency

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and CWA administration and CWA administration contingency is $1,194,870.

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The original CIP budget allocation for each fiscal year was $500,000,

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totaling the amount to be a $1 million for total of the two fiscal years.

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Staff is requesting an additional budget transfer in a amount of $150,000 from the

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miscellaneous sewer system improvement account to fully fund the project account to complete the project.

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City Attorney has reviewed and approved a proposed contract and staff is recommending

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awarding of this project to the tonal works.

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That concludes my presentation and I'm ready for any questions.

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All right.

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Any public comment on this item?

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No requests to speak, Mayor.

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Questions or comments from Council?

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If none, is there a motion?

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I'll make a motion.

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Is there a second?

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Second?

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All right.

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We have a motion a second.

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Please select a vote.

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The motion carried unanimously.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Thank you.

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All right. The next one is not Jason Tran. This is deep as is print on the

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agenda. DPR blue. This is going to be presented by this is item 5B resolution that

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proving planned specifications and awarding a contract to JB Bostick LLC for the city yard

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parking lot rehab project. Welcome. Thank you. Good evening honorable mayor members of the city council.

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I'm here on behalf of Jason Tran to present this item. The request of this item is to

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award a construction contract for the city yard parking lot rehabilitation project. The city yard

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serves as the maintenance and operations facility for public works and is located on Argon

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Circle. Due to the age of the facility and heavy vehicle wear interior both the front and the

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rare parking lots are in need of payment rehabilitation. The scope of work of this project is majorly

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asphalt payment rehabilitation that includes removing the existing payment and replacing it with

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a two-inch or four-inch asphalt, depending upon what the plants call out for.

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Additionally, the scope of work also includes some concrete gutter work, adjusting water

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valves and sewer cleanouts to grade, installing underground conduit for future use, and reinstalling

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curb stops and striping both the parking lots. The project was advertised in June and nine

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bits were received. The lowest bid was approximately 159,000 and the highest was 3,17,000.

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The lowest responsive and responsible bidder was JB Bostick at 158,558 precisely.

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The contractor possesses the required license and has completed similar work with other public agencies.

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Just for comparison, the next lowest bidder was at 163,000 followed by 165,000.

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for JB Bostick was only 4,493 below the next lowest bidder.

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They were all pretty close, which is a good thing.

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The recommended total project authorization is $197,000,

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00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:36,330
although which the contingency amount is $20,442,

446
00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:38,770
and $8,000 for construction engineering.

447
00:38:39,410 --> 00:38:41,630
Staff felt that carrying additional contingency

448
00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:43,650
was reasonable and cautious approach,

449
00:38:44,090 --> 00:38:45,370
given the age of the infrastructure

450
00:38:45,370 --> 00:38:48,110
and the possibility of unforeseen conditions.

451
00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:51,310
This is the CIP with funding already approved.

452
00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:56,930
If the contract is awarded today, we will begin construction in September and complete it by October.

453
00:38:57,530 --> 00:39:00,370
Let's end this presentation and I'm here for any questions.

454
00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:02,890
All right, any public comment?

455
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:04,050
We request this speaker.

456
00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:05,070
Questions or comments?

457
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:06,930
If none, I'll entertain a motion.

458
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:07,910
Yes, Councilor Franco.

459
00:39:08,350 --> 00:39:08,610
Thank you, Mayor.

460
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:12,950
I miss if they really appreciate the number of bids that were presented on this.

461
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:14,990
And I know that's not something that we as a city control.

462
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:22,890
But it's always great that we do our best to advertise as much as possible, especially when these bids come as close as they have been today.

463
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:28,010
It shows us that the accuracy of the bid is there.

464
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:31,270
And that no one is bidding too high or too low.

465
00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:33,850
And so I really appreciate the hard work on that.

466
00:39:34,270 --> 00:39:38,350
That's it. I'd like to move forward with approving this as well.

467
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:39,190
I'll second.

468
00:39:39,970 --> 00:39:42,290
All right, with motion and second. Select your vote.

469
00:39:50,090 --> 00:39:51,150
Motion carried unanimously.

470
00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:51,470
Lastly.

471
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:54,860
All right.

472
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,060
Next on to item 5C, Eddie Fenson, Assistant City Manager and Director of HR, you are up.

473
00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:06,920
This is for the Employment Agreement with Bradley Gyer for Chief of Police.

474
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:11,120
Thank you and good evening, Honourable Mayor, Member of the City Council.

475
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,800
I'm proud to present this item for your consideration, which is an employment agreement between

476
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,000
the city of Buena Park and the interim police chief Bradley Gyer.

477
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:28,640
In December 2025, police chief Noons retired after 28 years of service as law enforcement officer to the citizens of Buena Park.

478
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,220
This position is one of the most critical executive management positions within the city's organizational structure.

479
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Therefore, the city manager immediately appointed police captain Bradley Gyer to serve as interim police chief.

480
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:49,700
After careful consideration and exceptional performance over the past seven months, the city manager desires to appoint Bradley Gyer as the city's permanent

481
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:51,460
Police Chief for Buena Park.

482
00:40:52,060 --> 00:40:54,240
In terms of Chief Gaia has over 28 years of experience

483
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,400
with the Buena Park Police Department

484
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,280
with the successful record of accomplishments.

485
00:40:58,220 --> 00:41:01,320
He has a necessary experience and superior leadership

486
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,440
qualities to lead the department combined

487
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,080
with the respect of myself and other city staff

488
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,180
as regional law enforcement peers and the community

489
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,200
to ensure a smooth transition.

490
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,840
The city manager is requesting approval

491
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,820
of an employment agreement with the new police chief

492
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,820
effective July 4th, 2026.

493
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:19,080
Prior to this agreement, the city manager

494
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,180
in the interim chief entered into discussions to an agreement and employment agreement to reflect

495
00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:30,120
changes to the police chief salary range and fringe benefits as I will summarize for the

496
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:41,660
public. The police chief's compensation will be $23,972 per month. I'm sorry, $23,972 per month.

497
00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:45,820
It is important to note that in an effort to promote transparency and the chief's compensation,

498
00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:50,080
the city manager and the police chief agreed that the police chief will receive an additional

499
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:57,860
longevity pay equal to 3% as well as the educational pay equal to 10%. Secondly, the police chief

500
00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:02,740
will continue to receive all the fringe benefits provided under the police management association

501
00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:10,040
MOU. There is no budget impact on the fiscal year 2627 general fund budget with this action

502
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:15,480
because the two salary is already included for this fiscal year. Mayor this concludes my report

503
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,620
And I'm available for questions at this time.

504
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,880
Any public comment?

505
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,620
No comment.

506
00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:21,980
I'll start with a comment.

507
00:42:22,820 --> 00:42:24,980
Not to you, Eddie, I'm care about you on this item.

508
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:26,340
The person who matters on this item,

509
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:29,300
we are thrilled that you are official chief,

510
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:30,740
very exciting.

511
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,400
The interim period, in my opinion, went a little bit.

512
00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:37,040
Well, I just think that we got to write

513
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,020
a wrong a little bit.

514
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,900
We are far past the six month mark.

515
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:41,480
We're a few months, a couple months past that.

516
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,040
So I'm going to make an amendment.

517
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:44,820
I'll actually start off just by making a motion

518
00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:50,840
before turning over for either second comments, to amend the date where this is effective, to

519
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:58,620
instead be six months after then interim chief guy started his term as interim chief, so that

520
00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:03,680
would be June 18th would be the effective date. My understanding is the dollars and cents to that.

521
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,640
This is only about a thousand dollar difference. To me, it's just about keeping the promise consistent

522
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,800
with what we've done with prior chiefs of a six month interim. So that's going to be my my motion.

523
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,520
I don't know if there's a second and then I'll turn it over for additional additional comments.

524
00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:19,840
I'll second.

525
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,660
All right.

526
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,800
Motion and a second.

527
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,560
Can I make just a suggestion just from a kind of HR payroll perspective,

528
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,000
the beginning of the pay period that encompasses or that is close to that date is June 20th.

529
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,640
Again, we're talking about two days.

530
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,400
You'll owe the new chief or the chief a coffee to make up for that.

531
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,600
So June 20th will be my motion, does it's the second, this is vice mayor hope, okay with the amendment.

532
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,600
All right, any additional comments, alternate motions before we call for the vote?

533
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,700
All right, CNN.

534
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:56,560
So we'll select our vote here.

535
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,940
The motion carried unanimously.

536
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:01,180
All right, congratulations, Chief.

537
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,760
Thank you, Mayor.

538
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,540
I appreciate it, and all the council members vice mayor also.

539
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:17,740
Looking forward to serve in this great city. I've been here for the half of my life. It'll be 29 years coming up and I couldn't think of another place that I'd rather work.

540
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,860
Love the people, love the community and look forward to the next chapter of my career in chief.

541
00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:29,160
We're excited. Congratulations again. Well deserved.

542
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,460
And seen that we're before six o'clock.

543
00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:37,300
public, oh wait, let me make sure. There's no more. I think public hearing was next. Yes,

544
00:44:37,420 --> 00:44:41,720
public hearing cannot be until six. And so what we'll do is we'll go on to our council member

545
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:46,740
reports and calendar in since that usually takes about 10 minutes or so, unless all of us are

546
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:51,480
long-winded like mine might end up being a little bit. So we'll just call on these on the order

547
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,900
that they appear on the screen.

548
00:44:54,910 --> 00:44:58,290
All right, council. Thank you. I have very few things to report this

549
00:44:58,290 --> 00:44:59,850
I'm around but I have 100

550
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,120
We're sending attendance at all summer concert events, and the movie at the park at Whittaker Park this time around. So that was really nice. I do have one report since I am the delegate for the Bridges at Cramer. The update is, by the way, Bridges at Cramer is our county shelter. So they have moved from Mercy House to path for their contract, and I just wanted to let the public know that the counties moving forward in that direction.

551
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,740
other than that. There's just some adjustment periods and their staff is currently getting up to date with

552
00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:43,040
with their new contract. Lastly, I have kudos for a public works department and my way over here.

553
00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:49,460
I saw a couple of gentlemen scraping the stickers and removing graffiti from the rear side of a

554
00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:54,700
median sign. That's does important too. In the fact that our public works is paying attention to

555
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,540
that makes me really happy.

556
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,740
You've also noticed that there has been minimal to no graffiti

557
00:45:59,740 --> 00:46:03,860
on the five freeway on ramp from Beach Boulevard,

558
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,300
including the walls behind the dealerships.

559
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:10,200
So Kudos to our city manager and all of our staff,

560
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,580
all of public sports director,

561
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,380
and of course the public work staff

562
00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:17,320
that makes Buena Park look great every single day.

563
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,220
So that's it, I yield, thank you.

564
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,640
All right, Councilor Brown.

565
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:30,240
It's been pretty light in the past few weeks.

566
00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:33,860
It attended the sanitation trusty board meeting.

567
00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:41,840
And went to, oh, this was a pretty neat event at the Daniels Truth.

568
00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:50,480
I would want to recognize that Sarah Coppings really helped this special project takeoff

569
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:58,720
with the business local business and that the local hotels to develop a certain

570
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:04,520
point of park fragrances. I think I've had some pictures following this. So, we'll show

571
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:11,540
that in a minute. Some of our concerts at the Boisering Park was also great. Thank you for

572
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:13,920
putting up another great event.

573
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:18,940
And I've also attended several other nonprofit groups

574
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:28,740
events and meetings. It had very productive representation there. Can we move on to the video?

575
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:39,000
Thank you for that special. I think she's gone.

576
00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:41,480
Yeah. You want to do it again? One more time?

577
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:43,800
I like that cute move.

578
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:49,150
It's not, it's not.

579
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:50,450
It's not.

580
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:53,510
It was a great turnout.

581
00:47:54,010 --> 00:48:06,410
Now, these photos are really like just a cool way to present products such as a tiny little bottle of perfume.

582
00:48:07,410 --> 00:48:09,750
And I thought it was neat to share with a public.

583
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:18,370
And these will be displayed at local hotels, and just a quick photo.

584
00:48:18,850 --> 00:48:23,710
And this is also a pop-up store at the source mall that I stopped by.

585
00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:26,530
And then my report, nothing to calendar.

586
00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:34,210
Oh, this is another youth conference event that was held in Bonaparte.

587
00:48:34,210 --> 00:48:51,470
And I was one of the panelists to encourage future political leaders in the, with the next generation and that's, I think that's it and nothing to calendar end of my report.

588
00:48:51,470 --> 00:49:01,470
All right, next slide, I attended several things. I'm not going to go through all of them.

589
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:07,090
But let's go to the next screen. I had quite a few pictures tonight.

590
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:14,110
On July 17, I attended the Hacks, batting cages, ribbon cutting at the mall.

591
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:19,230
And Council Member Franco was there as well. Oh, he didn't mention anything.

592
00:49:19,810 --> 00:49:21,630
Did you swing a baseball bat?

593
00:49:22,050 --> 00:49:22,310
Did you hit?

594
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:23,650
I did not.

595
00:49:23,970 --> 00:49:24,250
Since my...

596
00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:25,550
No one saw that.

597
00:49:25,550 --> 00:49:25,650
No one saw that.

598
00:49:26,530 --> 00:49:28,690
Ter, I'm not swinging anything.

599
00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:32,930
But a great new business.

600
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:36,530
They're planning to do to give a lot back to the community.

601
00:49:37,150 --> 00:49:39,950
There was so much excitement there from the kids.

602
00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:42,490
Great place to take kids.

603
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:45,230
Next slide.

604
00:49:46,530 --> 00:49:47,450
On July 26,

605
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:56,770
I attended Lumi Poliza and the concert in the park. There were a lot of different exhibitions

606
00:49:56,770 --> 00:50:03,390
going on there. Orange County Power Authority was there with a truck that had different building

607
00:50:03,390 --> 00:50:12,630
materials and a cooking demonstration, almost our entire, now I think our entire climate action

608
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:20,010
mission was there assisting with everything. If you go to the next screen, there's more pictures

609
00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:28,530
from Louis Vuitton. It was really a well-attended and great event and I want to thank everybody

610
00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:36,610
that contributed to that. Some great food handed out there by our chef that attended and teaching

611
00:50:36,610 --> 00:50:44,970
everybody had a how to cook on an induction stove top. All right, next slide.

612
00:50:45,890 --> 00:50:50,690
I also went to Daniel's truth on August 5th for the Point of Park Fragrance

613
00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:58,310
reveal. They created two fragrances for Point of Park that are going to be in many

614
00:50:58,310 --> 00:51:07,690
of our hotels, gift sets available, including the perfume and candles.

615
00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:18,590
They had a great spread and a poison berry mock tail that was really delicious, and

616
00:51:18,590 --> 00:51:23,350
they put a smoke bubble on top of it, it's like a really fancy fancy deal.

617
00:51:23,350 --> 00:51:32,930
The sense are wonderful if you get a chance to go and in one of our hotels and check them out.

618
00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:37,210
I don't know of it any other city that has its own fragrance.

619
00:51:39,210 --> 00:51:49,670
One of them is a boys and very sort of based in the others called Sweet Society and they're both absolutely wonderful.

620
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:53,950
So Daniel Street is a unique store, highly recommended.

621
00:51:54,850 --> 00:51:56,030
All right, next screen.

622
00:51:57,190 --> 00:52:03,330
National night out and the last concert of the series in the park

623
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:05,650
had our entire PD,

624
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:13,630
the SWAT team that it was a very popular event for families.

625
00:52:13,930 --> 00:52:19,490
You can see by that middle picture there, how many people were there that night.

626
00:52:19,490 --> 00:52:29,250
It was extremely well attended and people were having a blast and then the last screen a few more pictures from that event.

627
00:52:30,970 --> 00:52:41,490
I wanted to show this down at the bottom there. We've got our many of our staff and volunteers that work so hard to put these events on.

628
00:52:41,490 --> 00:52:54,670
warm members of our police department and we are very grateful to Ed Cal for their support of our concerts in the part and the band will kicked it they were they were really awesome.

629
00:52:55,390 --> 00:53:00,920
I have nothing to calendar and that's it.

630
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,480
by Sminger.

631
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,900
Okay, so for reasons that are rather obvious, I don't have a lot of events

632
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:17,980
attended, but I only attended 33% of concerts this summer, unfortunately, but that's enough.

633
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:27,800
That's enough for the students enough. Sorry, but I, you know, I was really bummed that I missed out,

634
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:35,940
you know, a wonderful job to community services for always putting out such wonderful concerts for community.

635
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:45,300
To some really quick traffic update, I'd a resident that reached out that talked about some

636
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:52,980
concerns around holder and Lincoln. And so regarding visibility issues and I reached out to public

637
00:53:52,980 --> 00:54:01,580
works and within a few days there was new improvements that included striping a new southbound

638
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:08,340
right turn pocket. We installed red curvilong holder to improve that site distance. We refresh

639
00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:13,860
the pavement markings on all the southbound lanes and we restrived the yellow sun and lines and

640
00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:20,180
lane departure markings and it looks really nice and it's a lot safer. All of this is to help

641
00:54:20,180 --> 00:54:25,940
The traffic flow increased the driver awareness and, again, enhanced that overall safety in the

642
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:30,840
intersection. So thank you again to public works for immediately working on that when I reach out

643
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:39,100
about that concern. That looks great. And then I do have one item that I would like to calendar.

644
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:48,520
I'd like to agendas a discussion on developing a city vacant property ordinance addressing both

645
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,420
commercial and residential properties.

646
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,100
I've noticed several vacant properties and empty lots,

647
00:54:54,140 --> 00:54:56,700
particularly in district four.

648
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,080
And I think, and of course, throughout one of part,

649
00:55:00,180 --> 00:55:01,980
and I think this is an opportunity for us

650
00:55:01,980 --> 00:55:04,420
to take a more proactive approach.

651
00:55:05,060 --> 00:55:08,400
Vacant properties can sometimes contribute to blight,

652
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,160
public safety concerns, and additional demands

653
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,300
on city resources, including code enforcement, police,

654
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,480
and fire.

655
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:25,360
For example, I recently had to deal with some stuff that happened at the Ralph's parking lot on ball road.

656
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,680
There's relatively large vacant space.

657
00:55:29,020 --> 00:55:30,380
It was used for street racing.

658
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,640
You haul trucks are parked there for days at a time.

659
00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:36,000
We've seen transient activity.

660
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:44,140
So I'd really like for us to explore mechanisms and programs that encourage communication with property owners,

661
00:55:44,140 --> 00:55:49,980
promote proper maintenance and help move that vacant commercial and residential properties towards productive use.

662
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:55,100
Again, it's really important that we take a proactive and balanced approach.

663
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:58,480
We want to support our property owners and business community.

664
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:06,400
But we also need to fulfill our responsibility to our residents to ensure that the vacant properties are maintained, safe,

665
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,540
and do not become a source of light or unnecessary demands on city resources.

666
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,260
So that's it on my end.

667
00:56:13,780 --> 00:56:14,200
Thank you, Mayor.

668
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,420
All right.

669
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,220
And then just a few on mine.

670
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:21,560
But first, thank you to our city manager and just the staff who make,

671
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:22,760
basically makes it happen.

672
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,500
So we had a lot of roads in district five that were

673
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:29,720
repaved over the summer and as of mid last week,

674
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there was the paint on the ground,

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including for the crosswalks near the elementary schools,

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was not there.

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And so thanks Aaron for,

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and the rest staff were making that happen.

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they used, I'll just read what it's called thermoplastic road making or marking a compound,

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so it's the really reflective paint. They got it done for stay-a-schools tomorrow and everything

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00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:53,640
is painted and looks incredible. So thanks for getting on that quick. July 22nd, Lumi

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00:56:53,640 --> 00:57:01,100
Palooza incredible work by, by Lotus as well as the entire climate action commission for making

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that happen, seeing like a big success as well as all the other staff who stepped up to participate

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in it, especially those that were on the bikes, that was making the artwork and making the drinks

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and it seemed like a very fun, or was a very fun event. Let's see, any more to really highlight

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00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:26,340
from here, please part in swearing in ceremony, was an incredible event where we had a few new officers.

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We also had a promotion in dispatch. Those are always exciting moments to see how many officers

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we're bringing in and how many more we have gone through the Academy while other cities are

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making cuts left and right. We continue to expand. Big thank you really. I mean to the voters

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for making that happen with our sales tax measure.

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Let's see. Also through on here on the eighth

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former school board member here in Winnipeark, named Ian McDonald's, had his white coat ceremony

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so just wanted to give a shout out. Congratulations. That means he's school in the med school,

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medical school. And keeping consistent on the medical side, thought to give a detailed

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update from the OCAFA Operations Committee. We met today, in fact, it ended basically right before

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our council meeting started. And a few major changes on specifically ambulance response and

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firefighter response related to medical aid calls that I think are important to mention. So our

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county under our former EMS Director, in my opinion, was held back on improvements to patient care.

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fortunately that person is gone. And so some of the changes that are happening, one of them includes

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more options for pain management for our EMS and BLS providers. All it really means those that are

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in ambulances and those that are in the fire trucks that go out and engines to medical aid calls.

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00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,880
So for pain management now we have a ketamine instead of just or instead of things like fentanyl,

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:56,620
I know there's a lot of concern as there should be on fentanyl. And dosage we're looking at moving to

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being based on weight, because when you had it be a standardized dosage for pain management,

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you have called 911. The problem is if you weigh more, you're still getting the standard dose

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00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:12,180
as someone who may be a woman who weighs 120 pounds was getting the same dose as we'll just say,

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a man weighing 300 pounds. Clearly that doesn't make sense. So we're finally catching up to the rest

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of the counties in SoCal and also focusing on nausea and allergic reaction medication improvements

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that we have not had access to before.

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So a lot of people don't know this.

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00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,020
I didn't know it until getting on OCAFA.

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The county, EMS, and medical directors,

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they control through the board of supervisors,

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but they control a lot of what you can and can't have

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in services in these medical aid responses.

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So it's critical we have someone there who listens to doctors

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and we finally have that.

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There's going to be changes to how we treat severe hemorrhage

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by using it's called TXA to stop heavy bleeding.

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And again, that's something that's going to save lives.

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We're still the only county in all of Southern California.

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Is not allowed pre-hospital blood, so if you're out in the field or if you're in a car accident, they're

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01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:09,880
not going to do blood transfusion or giving you blood when you're out there. Our county does not

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01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,200
allow it. We're finally changing that to allow that, which again is mind boggling the amount of

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lives we've lost because of not allowing that. And the final thing I'll just mention, there was

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a law and list, but these are some of the just the more important ones I think are important to touch on,

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01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:29,840
just for awareness. It's called bi-directional hospital little data sharing. So basically using

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and the only way we could ever do this, there would never be the manpower behind it is utilizing

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AI systems that basically fully hip-accompliant takes the data for hospital data, learning

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about the outcomes of these transports, to basically on aggregate, no information to the exact

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01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:52,480
person, but to improve care, crew training and thus patient outcomes in the future. That

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,060
is going live tomorrow at noon here in Orange County.

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So a lot of incredible updates out of OCFA,

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the OCFA medical director has really been one

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01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:03,080
of the driving forces behind a lot of these changes

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01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,660
as have some incredible workers within the agency.

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Just though I just felt a lot of that was important

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01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:11,840
to share so you know that you're just more aware too

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01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,440
that what happens with the ameluncers,

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01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:16,000
there's a lot of control the county has,

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01:01:16,660 --> 01:01:18,460
and it's good that we're moving in the right direction

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01:01:18,460 --> 01:01:19,720
to catch up to surrounding counties.

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01:01:20,180 --> 01:01:27,100
So that's all I have to report, do you want to take a break or do we want to go straight into the public hearing?

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01:01:29,370 --> 01:01:30,790
All right, not seeing anyone wanting to take a break.

745
01:01:31,230 --> 01:01:35,790
So we will go to, we're going to go back to item 6A.

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This is the public hearing.

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01:01:38,770 --> 01:01:43,070
Consideration of adopting a resolution authorizing the city of Wayne and Park,

748
01:01:43,210 --> 01:01:45,610
to join the California statewide communities development authority,

749
01:01:45,630 --> 01:01:49,550
and participate in the statewide community infrastructure program.

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01:01:50,150 --> 01:01:54,030
So, this is the time and place for a public hearing to consider,

751
01:01:54,030 --> 01:01:57,230
I'm asking you to read the same thing and exactly what I just read.

752
01:01:57,610 --> 01:01:59,430
I would like to call on Matt folks,

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01:01:59,790 --> 01:02:01,070
Director of Community and Economic Development,

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01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:04,430
you're ready there, ready ready to give the report.

755
01:02:05,530 --> 01:02:07,330
Thank you, Mayor Trot and Members of the City Council.

756
01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:09,710
You also just read my introduction to paragraphs.

757
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:11,250
I won't read it for a third time,

758
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but a couple acronyms that we're going to use a few times throughout my brief presentation.

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CECD A does stand for the California Statewide Community Development Authority, and then the other acronym that we're going to hear a couple of times this skip or SCIP, which is the statewide community infrastructure program.

760
01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:36,870
We would not be good government if we're not using long acronyms, so those are the two that are going to come up a few times this evening.

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01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:42,930
The item before you, as the Mayor mentioned, is consideration of joining the CSCDA.

762
01:02:43,450 --> 01:02:48,290
This request is coming before the City Council for his consideration as a request from a developer

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01:02:48,290 --> 01:02:53,210
and property owner at 5600 Beach Boulevard, which is the former Amway Neutralite property.

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The City Council approved an entitlement for a redevelopment of this site with residential

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01:02:58,630 --> 01:03:03,770
development earlier this year and not long after the developer came forward requesting the

766
01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:08,770
city consider joining this joint powers authority and I will explain why here in a moment.

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01:03:10,070 --> 01:03:15,410
The primary reason the developers interested in pursuing the SCIP or skip is that it would

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01:03:15,410 --> 01:03:20,250
allow them to finance the payment of development impact fees through the formation of a special

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01:03:20,250 --> 01:03:21,290
assessment district.

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01:03:22,010 --> 01:03:27,990
So whenever a development project comes through our city, there are fees paid, there's direct

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01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:31,950
fees which are things around building plan check, building permit issuance, planning entitlements,

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01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:35,990
And then we have another set of fees which are called development impact fees and these are really

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01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:41,990
getting around the actual costs of additional services, things like water, sewer, parks

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01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:45,490
and these are called impacts of development, we are impact development fees.

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01:03:46,170 --> 01:03:50,290
This developer is looking to finance those impact development fees specifically

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01:03:50,290 --> 01:03:55,550
that are parks impact development fee through this finance mechanism by the state.

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The CSCDA as I mentioned is a joint powers authority, which was sponsored by the League of

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01:04:00,910 --> 01:04:05,610
California cities. There are over 500 cities, counties, and special districts as members

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01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:11,630
throughout the state, including a number in Orange County. The CSCDA was formed back in the late

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01:04:12,250 --> 01:04:19,790
1980s and then the skip program, or the SCIP program, was formed in early 2002. Since 2002,

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01:04:19,790 --> 01:04:25,610
the skip program has issued over 1 billion in special assessment and CFD bonds for development

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01:04:25,610 --> 01:04:31,490
projects statewide. If a property owner applies to participate in the skip program

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01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:36,910
and the city approves that application, the selected improvements or related impact fees

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01:04:36,910 --> 01:04:42,030
that will be owed to the city are financed through the issuance of bonds by the CSCDA. So the

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01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:49,150
C-S-C-D-A is this joint powers authority, they issue the bonds, and then it's paid to the bonds

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and proceeds are paid to the city for whether it's developed in impact fees or potential capital improvements.

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The C-S-D-A will form the community facilities district or the assessment district,

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and impose the assessment on future property owners within that development to repay the bonds.

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01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:10,670
Typically the bond repayment period is between 20 and 30 years.

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01:05:10,670 --> 01:05:23,870
This bond repayment is made known to potential buyers within that development, so when you go to buy in a given residential project, you'll see your estimated mortgage, you'll see your HOA,

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01:05:24,290 --> 01:05:32,090
and then this will be a separate line item on your property taxes, which will be called a special assessment district or a CFD, and then what that amount is.

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01:05:32,090 --> 01:05:40,470
Typically, that amount ranges from between $1,200 a year and in some cases can be up to $5 or $6,000 a year.

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01:05:40,790 --> 01:05:44,490
It really depends on how much the developer or property owner wishes to finance,

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01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:49,670
how many units are in the development and then the size of the units. So larger units pay a little

795
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:55,010
bit more, smaller units pay a little bit less. The developer then will pay those development fees

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01:05:55,010 --> 01:06:02,070
at the time of either building permit issuance and are either paying us and then being reimbursed by the

797
01:06:02,070 --> 01:06:06,870
on the timing. If the bonds are already released, then we would be paid directly out of the bond proceeds.

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Importantly, the city is never on the hook for having to repay those bonds. They are administered

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01:06:13,290 --> 01:06:19,410
by the CSEDA. They are repaid by those future property owners. The city's role is really just

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01:06:19,410 --> 01:06:25,250
joining this joint powers authority to allow the CSEDA to administer this program on behalf of the

801
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:31,330
city in that specific development. Once the bonds are fully repaid, that assessment drops off

802
01:06:31,330 --> 01:06:36,450
of your annual property taxes for the property owners that live in that development and it no longer

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01:06:36,450 --> 01:06:37,190
gets assessed.

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01:06:39,010 --> 01:06:42,830
The city, importantly, the city has to requisition those funds.

805
01:06:43,190 --> 01:06:47,250
So we get paid those development impact fees, for example, a parks impact fee.

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01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:52,950
When we go to make park improvements, our finance department, along with our public work

807
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:57,530
department, we'll make a requisition for the bond proceeds that it went to pay for.

808
01:06:57,530 --> 01:07:03,270
And then we would use those bond proceeds to pay for that park improvement, for example, if it was a parks impact fee.

809
01:07:03,570 --> 01:07:08,910
If it was a sewer or water impact fee, the proceeds have to go towards the specific impact fee that was paid.

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So we can't use parks money to pay for sewers, we can't use sewers money to pay for parks.

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It has to be paid for the impact fee that ties directly to the impact.

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As I mentioned, the city is not liable to repay the bonds.

813
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:27,930
and the CSCDA handles district formation, district administration, bond issuance as well as bond

814
01:07:27,930 --> 01:07:33,750
administration over the 20 or 30 year period. The proposed resolution before you this evening

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is authorizing us to join the CSCDA and allow the CSCDA to accept applications from future developers

816
01:07:40,650 --> 01:07:45,950
and property owners within Buena Park to apply for these taxisent financing and public improvements

817
01:07:45,950 --> 01:07:51,150
or the payment of development-related development-related impact fees through the skip program.

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It also authorizes the CSCDA to form assessment districts or community facilities districts within the city as part of those future development projects.

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So this is not something that a one-off property owner, a homeowner is not going to apply to form a taxes and bond to pay for their ADU impact fee.

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01:08:10,270 --> 01:08:12,610
This is going to be large residential developments,

821
01:08:13,230 --> 01:08:16,330
multi-family, four-scale product, typically,

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because an a four-rempt project

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doesn't typically qualify for CSEDA or bond financing.

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So just to be clear on what type of projects

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we'll be looking at.

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Once an application is received by the participating developer,

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and the project is approved by the city,

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the CSEDA handles all the district formation

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and district administration over the term.

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Staff is presenting the attached resolution

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for city council consideration. If the city chooses to join the CSEDA, but then in the future,

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which is to exit or remove itself from the CSEA joint powers authority, it would do so

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01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:58,550
by a resolution at a council action. However, any CFDs or assessment districts that are formed

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01:08:58,550 --> 01:09:04,030
during the time the city is a member would remain in place until the bonds are fully repaid. So

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if we decided to get out, but a project had come through and formed an assessment district,

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that assessment district would carry through the entire 20 or 30 year period.

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But future assessment districts or CFDs could be removed.

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01:09:19,650 --> 01:09:21,050
That is the end of staff's presentation,

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and I would be happy to answer any questions.

840
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:26,040
All right.

841
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,460
First, let's do the, the public,

842
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,640
well, any questions before open it up for the public hearing portion.

843
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:32,660
All right.

844
01:09:32,900 --> 01:09:34,740
So public hearing now open.

845
01:09:35,140 --> 01:09:38,160
Madam City Clerk, anyone wishing to speak via Zoom or in person?

846
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:39,820
I have no request to speak, Mayor.

847
01:09:39,820 --> 01:09:45,600
Mayer, I just would quickly realize, I recognize Scott, who is from shop-off development.

848
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,020
Shop-off is the project at 5,600 beach that kind of made the request for the city to consider this.

849
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,380
So, I don't, sorry to put you on the spot.

850
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,860
Scott, but if there's anything you'd like to come up and add.

851
01:10:02,230 --> 01:10:03,750
Got to treasure a shop-off reality.

852
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:08,930
Just thank you all again for hearing out Matt about this resolution.

853
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:15,530
Really here to answer any questions you may have from applicant, but obviously Matt is

854
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:21,950
well-versed and everything as well so thank you all right perfect and seeing that we have no other

855
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:26,950
public comments I'll just close the public comment portion but if there's questions of course we'll

856
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:33,570
call you up all right so public hearing portion is now closed so let's turn over to

857
01:10:34,330 --> 01:10:41,070
the city council questions and comments by council members starting with council members signing

858
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:49,110
If we did not do this, what, what, what would happen?

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01:10:51,250 --> 01:10:53,610
So nothing in some respects.

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01:10:53,970 --> 01:10:59,910
So the joining or not joining this joint powers authority is entirely within the city council's discretion.

861
01:11:01,670 --> 01:11:06,610
Whether Scott would be a better person to answer about what the direct impacts are to that project,

862
01:11:06,610 --> 01:11:09,930
but there is nothing compelling the city to join or not join.

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01:11:10,490 --> 01:11:12,870
There are 500 city statewide that have joined,

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01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:17,950
but there are many, many others that have chosen not to be part of the CSCDA.

865
01:11:18,190 --> 01:11:22,170
I'd like to know what would happen with this particular project if we did not.

866
01:11:24,430 --> 01:11:25,950
Thank you, Councillor interject.

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01:11:26,150 --> 01:11:30,010
So for us, the ability to finance the project,

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01:11:30,090 --> 01:11:35,350
allows it to be affordable for our home builder to be able to build a project.

869
01:11:35,970 --> 01:11:38,710
And that's really the main tip that is for doing this.

870
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:44,710
We want to build our homes and this allows us to deliver them at a way that we can

871
01:11:44,710 --> 01:11:47,030
do so from a home building perspective.

872
01:11:47,670 --> 01:11:52,370
So if we didn't, are you saying that you could not afford to develop this project?

873
01:11:52,510 --> 01:11:57,430
It would make it much, much more difficult, yes, to do so.

874
01:11:57,790 --> 01:11:58,230
Okay.

875
01:11:58,450 --> 01:11:59,450
Thank you.

876
01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:02,690
Councilmember Franco.

877
01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:03,750
Thank you, Mayor.

878
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:07,670
Matt, first of all, you said that 500 other cities have

879
01:12:07,670 --> 01:12:13,470
on this in the state of California? Yes. Aren't there only about 500 cities in the state of California?

880
01:12:13,690 --> 01:12:18,730
There's a few more than that, but there is a most are members. Okay. Okay. What

881
01:12:18,730 --> 01:12:23,950
is it includes counties in special districts? So it's not just cities that can join the CSCDA,

882
01:12:24,150 --> 01:12:29,830
a county can join to administer and special districts. So the overall number gets bigger, but you're

883
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:35,050
right to conclude there are quite a few. I just thought there was like 480 cities in California,

884
01:12:35,050 --> 01:12:40,530
But I'm not going to debate that. I'm curious about the control that the state might have over our territory.

885
01:12:42,250 --> 01:12:50,550
So this is a joint powers authority. So it's not state in that respect. They would if we joined and an assessment district was formed.

886
01:12:51,270 --> 01:13:00,090
They would have authority to collect on the assessment within the project where the assessment district is formed. So that is

887
01:13:00,090 --> 01:13:13,930
In some respects, giving up some level of control because there would be an outside entity that on your property taxes, if you're a homeowner in this development, you will be making a payment to this assessment district separate of the city's control.

888
01:13:13,930 --> 01:13:26,470
So local control is always very important to me. Anywhere where we can expand our resources without losing control is something that my mind would steer towards.

889
01:13:27,250 --> 01:13:33,590
I'm a little lukewarm especially fearing the fact that there is no negative consequence to the city by joining this.

890
01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:40,370
So I will yield until I hear more from my colleagues. Thank you.

891
01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:48,170
answer every sunny. Sorry. If I'm a homeowner in this project and this fee is on my property

892
01:13:48,170 --> 01:13:58,560
tax and I pay everything in my property tax except this fee. How are they? What are the consequences

893
01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:59,740
to the homeowner?

894
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,220
I'm not sure if I know the answer that but I think it would be Chris Closer at the

895
01:14:07,220 --> 01:14:15,500
day they could perhaps buy him what the county I believe. But you paid your property. You've paid

896
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:20,620
what you owe to the county. The county doesn't. It's okay. I could on the rules the same way

897
01:14:20,620 --> 01:14:26,700
property taxes. So the the enforcement mechanism is the same. It becomes a lean on the property

898
01:14:27,340 --> 01:14:34,440
and any lean on property can be foreclosed on. And so by joining the county

899
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:37,780
we accept the responsibility.

900
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,100
Good Minister, correct?

901
01:14:39,940 --> 01:14:40,160
Okay.

902
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:41,980
All right.

903
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,340
I've never heard of this.

904
01:14:43,460 --> 01:14:45,140
So I have a lot of questions about how.

905
01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:47,240
So you may have heard that there are mellow rules.

906
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,820
Is that a term that you guys that sound familiar?

907
01:14:49,940 --> 01:14:56,720
Mellow rules is the legal precedent that allows for cities and counties to create

908
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,520
assessment districts or community facilities districts.

909
01:14:59,520 --> 01:14:59,720
Thanks.

910
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,960
Many developments in our surrounding cities, Europe, Linda, Brea, Tustin, Irvine, Fullerton.

911
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:19,580
This is a sort of a common financing tool for residential developers to finance improvements, or, in this case, the payment of impact fees.

912
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:26,560
So it's not something when a park has done, so this is definitely a little bit of new territory for our city,

913
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:33,880
but it is a very common tool implemented by residential developers in the immediate county as

914
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:42,400
well as the region. And is there any difference in the total amount that the homeowner pays

915
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:56,540
for this depending on how it's, you know, I assume that costric going to be

916
01:15:56,540 --> 01:16:07,620
is there my more or less interest that accrues because it comes to property tax? Is it if you

917
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:15,820
if you made it a set amount added to the price of the unit rather than a part of the property tax?

918
01:16:17,060 --> 01:16:25,660
Does does it change what potentially what the homeowner pays in the long run for this?

919
01:16:28,220 --> 01:16:30,520
I, I, I, I would, I would welcome Scott back.

920
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,320
No, I'm happy to hear from the applicant.

921
01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:36,760
I, I, a bond is alone and it carries interest rate, right?

922
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,980
So if you take out a $50 million bond hypothetically and you pay it back, you pay more

923
01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:43,300
than $50 million over time, right?

924
01:16:43,300 --> 01:16:48,900
So if you were to write up the present day cost of these improvements right at check now versus

925
01:16:48,900 --> 01:16:52,180
financing that over 30 years, it would cost less now.

926
01:16:52,420 --> 01:16:52,660
Correct.

927
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:53,400
Okay.

928
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:58,200
So it's, is that if someone paid cash for their unit and paid

929
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:04,080
for the whole thing up front, and it was included in the cost of the unit, then they would pay less

930
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:10,120
than if it's a part of their property tax that's paid over 20, 25 years.

931
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:17,860
Not that I've seen there's very few people that can afford to pay cash for their unit.

932
01:17:18,260 --> 01:17:24,580
Yes, my understanding in city attorney may have a better understanding of this is that this is a

933
01:17:24,580 --> 01:17:48,560
fixed fee that gets put over 20 30 years. And so that dollar amount is assessed on that property for 20 to 30 years. So even if you pay up front, that doesn't change the the fee that is collected from the county. And so you know that amount stays with the property for that long and that after that time period then it goes away.

934
01:17:48,560 --> 01:18:02,320
So let's just say it's $100 a month that stays with that property, you sell the property, you're still not on the hook for the new property owner is the one who pays that $100 a month until the expiration of the of the bond.

935
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:15,180
So you're saying you would not make it an increase in the cost of the unit itself even if it were not part of the property tax, you would make it a monthly charge.

936
01:18:15,180 --> 01:18:21,320
That's typically how those work monthly, or importantly, depending on how it's kind of put out.

937
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,600
And so that doesn't affect the cost of the home,

938
01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:28,200
specifically it does actually decrease the basis of the home typically,

939
01:18:28,940 --> 01:18:31,180
because there's less fee to build the home.

940
01:18:32,140 --> 01:18:34,400
Which means that the property tax is lower.

941
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:35,740
Okay.

942
01:18:36,540 --> 01:18:37,400
All right. Thank you.

943
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,140
Sorry for all of these detailed questions.

944
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:43,500
All right.

945
01:18:43,660 --> 01:18:45,840
Any other questions or comments from Council?

946
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,980
So yeah, Councilman Rodden, yes.

947
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:52,560
Okay, a few questions for both of you.

948
01:18:59,110 --> 01:19:06,350
So the first off, why was it brought up now

949
01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:13,470
rather than before this issue of Belarus

950
01:19:14,710 --> 01:19:19,690
was there a reason for the timing of this

951
01:19:19,870 --> 01:19:26,390
Is it after consideration of your financial situation, building costs and whatever have you

952
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:31,770
is a why or not worth, you know, we could have discussed this before when we were approving the project.

953
01:19:32,730 --> 01:19:40,950
So, the CSCDA through their own guidelines recommends that a council doesn't consider the formation

954
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:45,490
until after the entitlements are approved, but before the building permits are issued.

955
01:19:46,510 --> 01:19:49,030
So, it's unrelated to whether or not

956
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:54,170
the project entitlements and in most cases they recommend that the project entitlements are approved,

957
01:19:54,910 --> 01:19:59,350
then it's consideration of an assessment district or a community facilities district,

958
01:19:59,510 --> 01:20:03,930
prior to building permits actually being issued to construct the project. So that's why we kind of

959
01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:11,390
are in this time period. Okay, so we don't have Milleroo's in one of part, right?

960
01:20:16,630 --> 01:20:16,630
Well,

961
01:20:16,630 --> 01:20:29,890
from my understanding this type of bond measure for property tax for the newly developed housing

962
01:20:29,890 --> 01:20:40,420
is more it's to save on the cost of construction cost and whatnot, right, or financial burden

963
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:42,620
of the developers, all right.

964
01:20:45,290 --> 01:20:47,890
I'm trying to figure out, yeah. We very much appreciate Scott

965
01:20:47,890 --> 01:20:52,830
is here because he's giving the perspective of the shop off. If the city does elect to join the

966
01:20:52,830 --> 01:20:58,130
CSCDA, it would be applicable. There would be future developments that would be able to take

967
01:20:58,130 --> 01:21:03,330
advantage of it. So I don't want to tie these things too closely together, but as it relates to the

968
01:21:03,330 --> 01:21:06,830
shop off development, which we recently approved, Scott's happy to answer.

969
01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:12,120
Yeah, so the goal of this

970
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:19,320
is also to decrease home prices because by having decreased initial costs burden by developer home

971
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,400
older homes can come at lower prices and therefore you're going to have lower property tax

972
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:33,920
spaces and it makes it easier for home owners to get into properties because the costs of

973
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:40,320
the home typically will be lower because you're able to get into because you're able to have

974
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,400
a less of a cost to put a project together whether it be construction costs or development fees.

975
01:21:46,220 --> 01:21:52,880
I know that when we discuss this project initially that the asking price or the sell price

976
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,440
will be market price at market price. Are you, is that still your goal?

977
01:21:57,780 --> 01:22:05,680
Yeah, okay. So how would you make that affordability added into this picture of market price

978
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:33,900
So typically projects of this size, especially in California, it becomes a pretty standard method in order to finance such large projects because fees can be quite

979
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:41,220
or home builders can use in order to decrease the burden to bring product to market.

980
01:22:42,340 --> 01:22:49,780
Right, so it helps your profit margin as well, right, because you're saving on the

981
01:22:49,780 --> 01:22:54,720
cost of building and interest in one not. I don't know how much you're saving, but I'm just trying

982
01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:00,160
to like, understand the whole picture. Yeah, and they're, I understand that perspective, but it also

983
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:07,300
helps developers and folks raise capital so they can put projects together and build projects.

984
01:23:08,380 --> 01:23:09,920
So it all it all kind of works together.

985
01:23:10,780 --> 01:23:17,880
Okay, so let's say if the Miller-Rus was created or implemented for this particular site,

986
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:20,080
what are we talking about?

987
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:25,300
Like, I know that depending on the size of the property, it may differ,

988
01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:32,700
but the average that an average homeowner in one of park pace, about 1.2% property tax,

989
01:23:33,020 --> 01:23:41,340
that we pay twice a year. So I know that there was a number of floating around that was like

990
01:23:41,340 --> 01:23:48,060
$200 extra per month, total $2,400 for this particular project, $2,400 for Miller's feet.

991
01:23:48,060 --> 01:23:59,060
annually, is that right? So the goal of this would be, so the typical one point two, the goal of this is to not exceed 1.4% on overall tax.

992
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:01,220
So it would be 0.3.

993
01:24:01,420 --> 01:24:03,420
Depending on your pages, yeah.

994
01:24:03,580 --> 01:24:03,820
Yeah, average.

995
01:24:04,420 --> 01:24:05,000
Right. Right.

996
01:24:05,180 --> 01:24:06,100
0.3.

997
01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:06,820
0.4.

998
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:07,900
Yeah, 0.0.

999
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:08,540
Yeah,

1000
01:24:12,060 --> 01:24:12,440
yeah, yeah.

1001
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,660
We're talking, we're saying the same thing.

1002
01:24:13,660 --> 01:24:31,900
It's like 0.3% or 0.4% correct, which brings up your property taxes from average 1.18 or 1.2 to as high as 1.4 or 1.5% of your current property value.

1003
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:42,720
Yeah, we wouldn't be the goal is not to get to 1.5 or a typical market is going to be around the 1.4 mark.

1004
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:48,240
around 1.4 okay, does it different just kind of for my

1005
01:24:49,580 --> 01:24:55,740
to learn about the system is it how much you're asking for the bond the total amount of bonds

1006
01:24:55,740 --> 01:25:03,280
that you be asking for that will determine the rate? Correct I mean it's it's a little bit of both on

1007
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:12,700
there's a rate that is a typical market rate for this type of service and you know depending on what

1008
01:25:13,660 --> 01:25:18,700
maybe associated with that, that's it just kind of depends how we're looking at it.

1009
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:28,400
I see. So your builder is Lanar and I believe they have other developments in the city of

1010
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:34,860
Fullerton. Is that right? I believe so. I'm not, you know, not exactly sure what you're.

1011
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:40,680
Okay, because there's a new housing development that is also has the implemented

1012
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:52,960
and that new neighborhood and their rate is 0.4 on top of Fullerton's average property tax rate.

1013
01:25:53,660 --> 01:25:58,840
So I'm just trying to figure out what the rate will be in the city of Bonapark.

1014
01:26:00,220 --> 01:26:06,200
If we allow this to happen, just double-checking.

1015
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:07,620
Okay.

1016
01:26:12,830 --> 01:26:15,450
I don't have any further questions for you. Thank you, Scott.

1017
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:18,450
So

1018
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,820
this is something you were discussing for the City of Bonapark.

1019
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:35,080
And I know that Fullerton is pretty much established city. Twice as big as ours.

1020
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:56,380
Our city is a population of 85,000 and it's only 14.5 square foot, sorry, mile, square miles, large, and we have already kind of like nearly fully developed in terms of residential area.

1021
01:26:56,500 --> 01:27:01,320
I know there are certain pockets that we still need to work on, but we have a master housing plan.

1022
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:30,200
So, that said, with considering the new projects that are up in coming like the Sears Project or the project off of Dale, the Milleroo's never entered the conversation, it's already, I think, the smaller project is being almost near a completion and the Sears Project of 1300.

1023
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:35,000
but they are creating new roads and drive ways

1024
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,160
and signal lights and new sewer system,

1025
01:27:37,340 --> 01:27:40,760
or like adding to that on the private property side

1026
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:41,900
on their own.

1027
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,840
And we never talked about the Melrose before.

1028
01:27:47,140 --> 01:27:47,800
Am I right?

1029
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,400
Correct.

1030
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,380
So the project at Dale La Palma,

1031
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:51,840
which is currently under construction,

1032
01:27:52,260 --> 01:27:53,580
that there was never a request.

1033
01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:57,040
And so we're certainly not offering that up to developers

1034
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,380
if it's not available in the city.

1035
01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:06,460
the same for the Sears Project, Merlin Gyer never made any requests for the formation of

1036
01:28:06,460 --> 01:28:11,540
a facility district or assessment district or joining CSCDA and so it was never brought forward

1037
01:28:11,540 --> 01:28:17,920
for council consideration. Okay, so those two projects, they also presented to the council

1038
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:26,980
that their town homes will be at market price as well, right? Correct. All right, so

1039
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,180
I am not sure what's changed since last year.

1040
01:28:32,780 --> 01:28:38,800
I'm sure the cost has gone up and I get that on the development side.

1041
01:28:41,940 --> 01:28:44,700
But considering where we are in our city,

1042
01:28:47,380 --> 01:28:54,500
I don't think I can support this item because I philosophically disagree with the implementation

1043
01:28:54,500 --> 01:29:03,140
of the Belarus tax property taxes basically for the new investors or new home owners.

1044
01:29:04,180 --> 01:29:17,050
It's a burden on them as well and I'm not sure if that would affect the the sale of the property

1045
01:29:17,050 --> 01:29:23,010
or whatever. I think it's definitely a negative connotation for people up in district one

1046
01:29:23,010 --> 01:29:41,010
And for a properties in district one to have Belarus, extra property tax charges, well as in other parts of the city, like especially the new another new development will not have that burden on the new consumer or new buyer of the homes.

1047
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:47,310
So I'm just trying to like see if there's any like fairness and that.

1048
01:29:47,310 --> 01:29:59,970
And secondly, we are already established city and developed city like us, I don't know if we should have Meloroo's tap.

1049
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,680
We have developed a precedent for the future developments here. So I'm not sure if I can support this item. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. I'm done.

1050
01:30:16,580 --> 01:30:22,320
All right. I'm going to go and then after myself, council member Sonny and then you have stuff after as well.

1051
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:38,020
So what I'm hearing is that the, so the first the benefit on the development argument is hey doing this makes it so project's pencil and you can build it, it's going to help build housing.

1052
01:30:39,540 --> 01:30:41,860
That's on the developer side, that's on building housing.

1053
01:30:42,340 --> 01:30:44,960
So then I think to, okay, what's the benefit for the homeowners?

1054
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,740
Now clearly they're going to pay this over decades.

1055
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,040
And we're going to, when we're in a affordability crisis

1056
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:54,160
talking on another 2400, whatever, plus not whatever it's

1057
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:59,440
lot per year, instantly I go to after that.

1058
01:30:59,540 --> 01:31:01,500
Well, then the argument for that is yes,

1059
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:02,520
it's going to be, what is it?

1060
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,480
2400 more.

1061
01:31:03,900 --> 01:31:05,720
But then on the flip side, that's going to make.

1062
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,980
because when I hear the arguments of,

1063
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:08,900
oh, when you increase these costs,

1064
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,480
it's going to make them sell for more.

1065
01:31:10,940 --> 01:31:12,880
That's, and you didn't say that tonight.

1066
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:13,740
I just mean in general.

1067
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,800
I think that's a weak or BSR,

1068
01:31:18,860 --> 01:31:20,620
you meant when I do hear that on projects,

1069
01:31:21,700 --> 01:31:24,060
because the pricing is based on the fair market value

1070
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:26,960
unless there's some covenants of restrictions on the pricing.

1071
01:31:27,980 --> 01:31:29,660
So knowing that I want to know,

1072
01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:31,080
and that's what I'm trying to write my head around

1073
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:36,220
is doing this, adding this extra cost,

1074
01:31:36,820 --> 01:31:39,140
is there evidence that suggests or proves

1075
01:31:39,140 --> 01:31:43,320
that the fair market value of the property will decrease

1076
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,080
by the amount of that benefit.

1077
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,720
And I look at what the present value analysis of that amount,

1078
01:31:49,740 --> 01:31:52,540
because you can't just put it out over the course 30 years,

1079
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:53,400
clearly there's inflation.

1080
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,300
But that's how I'm looking at this is,

1081
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,620
because you would think that higher property tax fee

1082
01:32:00,620 --> 01:32:03,660
It means lower sale, fair market value, people will calculate that in.

1083
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:05,080
What's my full cost here?

1084
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,800
So it would lower the cost of the unit and clearly in California with $13.

1085
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,280
Our taxes going up, slower.

1086
01:32:10,620 --> 01:32:13,680
Maybe the math does come out to there is that benefit.

1087
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,880
But I'm hearing the concept of that.

1088
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:18,560
I'm not actually hearing proof in examples.

1089
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,620
So I don't know if we have more details on that kind of benefit and what has actually

1090
01:32:24,620 --> 01:32:26,920
resulted that we can learn about.

1091
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:32,940
It sucks outing on the extra money to folks, but if the price, if data tells us, it does go down

1092
01:32:32,940 --> 01:32:37,040
at initial purchase price and over the course of time, they're going to save on the property tax

1093
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:41,960
and that initial purchase, and that math typically beats the present value analysis over the course of the

1094
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:48,240
30 years of this cost. Then I think it's a good decision for residents, but I feel like I'm not confident

1095
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,380
in that right now. I think that's why you can tell them kind of on the fence on this item. So I don't know if

1096
01:32:52,380 --> 01:32:56,220
of you are able to answer that or have more information you can share.

1097
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:02,420
I know it's kind of a lot of a question throughout there, but that's what's waiting on me in my head.

1098
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,600
So let me repeat your question back to you and see if I understand it correctly.

1099
01:33:08,180 --> 01:33:20,520
So if you had a listing of projects that had taken advantage that were CSCDA cities that had to

1100
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:26,360
price of the units within that development are less than the fair market sale price of units that are

1101
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:32,100
not within a mellow ruse or assessment district. And that would be evidence to you that

1102
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:37,700
they actual sale price was reduced, which is that property tax reduction implication. Is that

1103
01:33:37,700 --> 01:33:42,280
yeah essentially, and I know that's probably a tough thing to calculate, but when you're

1104
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:46,440
comparing it in maybe a same city, and I don't know if we looked into that because these are questions

1105
01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:49,660
to find answers to it and it was tough to find studies on it.

1106
01:33:49,980 --> 01:33:53,560
Yeah, that's a, that's not an unfair question.

1107
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:59,920
In fact, it's a fair question. I do not have, we did not go down that path of analysis.

1108
01:34:00,460 --> 01:34:05,560
It would be, it would take some time quite honestly. There's, there's also a number of other factors

1109
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:11,720
that go into a home sale price. So comparing even city to city development to development,

1110
01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:16,040
how much did they pay for the land initially, how much was the construction cost

1111
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,120
over the soil conditions. That would change the overall construction cost, which would change

1112
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:25,300
the actual and market value. The value of homes in even in our adjoining cities,

1113
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:31,960
Fullerton, differ from home sold in Buena Park because sales regions differ. So you couldn't take

1114
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:38,080
homes in Santa Barbara or the Bay Area. Even if they were mellow rose homes and draw a conclusion,

1115
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:43,160
you'd have to compare non mellow rose homes in that city, compared to mellow rose homes in that city.

1116
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,320
All that is to say, there is maybe something we could do.

1117
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:53,360
I don't think there would be a situation where we could definitively say, beyond what

1118
01:34:53,360 --> 01:35:00,440
shop-off might give anecdotally, that this is guaranteed to lower the actual value of the

1119
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:01,940
home in terms of purchase price.

1120
01:35:02,500 --> 01:35:05,780
Yeah, because at the end of the day, oh, I'm really looking at bringing it more broad is

1121
01:35:05,780 --> 01:35:10,660
can I argue that us doing this decision was overall the right decision to benefit the residents

1122
01:35:10,660 --> 01:35:17,020
long term and maybe maybe the question I asked wasn't the right question on that. So that's

1123
01:35:17,020 --> 01:35:22,000
why I want to bring it a little more broad. I'm having it tough time seeing or being able to

1124
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:28,740
quantify that benefit because it's just 2400 a year is a lot to add to a homeowner. I know over

1125
01:35:28,740 --> 01:35:34,780
time the present value of that would go down since it's fixed, right? The fixed dollar now not a

1126
01:35:34,780 --> 01:35:39,980
percentage, right? Okay. Um, so is there any, are there any other factors, then we should

1127
01:35:39,980 --> 01:35:45,700
be considering, since my more direct one, I know is tough to find him fill on. I tried searching

1128
01:35:45,700 --> 01:35:52,400
it was tough to find it. It just more said. Yeah, in general, that's true. But it's, yeah, I would,

1129
01:35:53,660 --> 01:35:58,780
Scott's going to regret coming to this meeting. But I will invite Scott up to give his perspective.

1130
01:35:58,860 --> 01:36:04,260
I will say anecdotally, because I, there's very, there's no objective evidence anecdotally,

1131
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:10,040
as I reached out to other cities in our county who have joined CSEDA or have implemented

1132
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:16,960
Belarus. This is quickly becoming one of the tools in the toolbox, a recent tool in the

1133
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:22,880
toolbox in order to make projects even financially viable even at market rate. So shopoff is

1134
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,980
the one that brought this forward for our consideration and I have one other developer that has

1135
01:36:27,980 --> 01:36:34,000
reached out asking what our status is because they were also difficult to make a project financially

1136
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:39,300
viable and this is a tool that they are now looking to potentially leverage if we were to

1137
01:36:39,300 --> 01:36:44,280
join. So I think that's an anecdotal answer is that the benefit is that some projects are

1138
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,040
just no longer penciling for residential development and this is a tool that could help bring

1139
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:54,920
some of those projects forward. Fair comment from Councilmember On that there are other projects

1140
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:59,360
that are under construction that didn't need it. So trying to draw those comparisons and why did

1141
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:00,940
that one work and this one doesn't,

1142
01:37:01,540 --> 01:37:03,200
is a difficult question to answer,

1143
01:37:03,860 --> 01:37:05,580
but maybe Scott has some thoughts.

1144
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,700
I'll let go of quite a bit of what Matt was saying

1145
01:37:11,700 --> 01:37:14,520
with obviously each project, you know,

1146
01:37:14,580 --> 01:37:17,180
quite a bit different from our experience.

1147
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:18,860
This is a vehicle that we've used

1148
01:37:18,860 --> 01:37:20,240
on the number of different projects.

1149
01:37:20,700 --> 01:37:23,520
And for us, it's something that is really needed

1150
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,140
in order to bring homes to market.

1151
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:30,340
That's really our big issue in our big goal

1152
01:37:30,340 --> 01:37:35,860
and by, you know, having some fees that can be extended over a long period of time allows the

1153
01:37:35,860 --> 01:37:42,860
products to become market and viable. Frankly, if this is something we don't get, you know,

1154
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:50,100
I don't know if the homes are going to be as market as they potentially could be.

1155
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:57,560
And so that's kind of issues we're running into. You know, the goals really with the by spreading out these

1156
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:04,440
fees, that initial fee doesn't get to the initial home price and the initial home price typically

1157
01:38:04,440 --> 01:38:10,680
will be lower because you haven't spent that much in either developer or construction fees.

1158
01:38:11,380 --> 01:38:18,900
So that cost savings per door does go on to the home buyer on the initial home price and

1159
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:21,580
then that does, you know, obviously extend throughout.

1160
01:38:21,580 --> 01:38:24,540
So, that's the goal of what we're trying to do.

1161
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:29,940
We're trying to get to a point where we can get our home building partner,

1162
01:38:30,460 --> 01:38:36,860
a project that can pencil for them so that we can deliver homes to winter park.

1163
01:38:37,620 --> 01:38:38,600
Thank you.

1164
01:38:38,980 --> 01:38:39,600
It comes from your sonny.

1165
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,360
How long has the CSCDA been in?

1166
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,340
So it was formed in 1988.

1167
01:38:48,340 --> 01:38:56,780
And then the skip program, which is the infrastructure payment component, was founded by CSEDA in 2002.

1168
01:38:57,420 --> 01:39:05,300
So 24 years for skip and 40 something years, 38 years for CSEDA.

1169
01:39:08,540 --> 01:39:16,720
Has anyone ever requested the city of Buenos Part to join this program before now?

1170
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:17,280
Okay.

1171
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,860
So it's never even been considered.

1172
01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:23,880
We should talk to the longest standing member here.

1173
01:39:24,700 --> 01:39:26,380
Council member Sonny, I'm not aware

1174
01:39:26,380 --> 01:39:30,440
of any developer asking us to participate in this program.

1175
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:32,980
Since I've been here for 21 years.

1176
01:39:33,620 --> 01:39:37,860
The report says that they decide whether or not

1177
01:39:37,860 --> 01:39:41,140
the developer gets to have their development

1178
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,380
as a part of this program.

1179
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,040
How do they make that decision?

1180
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,440
What are the qualifying factors?

1181
01:39:51,740 --> 01:39:52,560
Just something like that?

1182
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,640
Sure, so the CSEDA takes a look at a number of factors.

1183
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,380
So how much are you attempting to

1184
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,140
the ratio of the project cost versus what you're attempting to finance?

1185
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,320
So they look for that value ratio.

1186
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:11,200
I don't have the exact number in front of me, but that's one thing they look at.

1187
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:20,200
The market, the likelihood that there will be buyers for these homes on the back end because that's how these bonds are ultimately repaid.

1188
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:31,060
There's a number of those are two of their big ones, but there's a number of factors that they look at when they decide which projects they're going to accept into to create the assessment or facilities districts.

1189
01:40:31,420 --> 01:40:34,140
Do we know what their percentage of acceptances?

1190
01:40:35,580 --> 01:40:36,640
I do not.

1191
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:52,580
I have to assume an agent, a JPA that's been in existence for this long, has quite a bit of information reports and things like that available to understand more deeply,

1192
01:40:54,600 --> 01:41:02,920
the how it all works, why it's an advantage, why cities become a part of it, all of that kind of thing.

1193
01:41:04,420 --> 01:41:09,340
I feel like we're missing a lot of information.

1194
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:17,440
The fact that so many cities and counties and other jurisdictions participate in it

1195
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:22,980
leads me to think that there are probably some very good reasons to join.

1196
01:41:24,500 --> 01:41:28,500
But it also seems like a very big step for the city to decide to do that.

1197
01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:35,660
And I, I would feel much better if I, if I, if I had more and better information to make this

1198
01:41:35,660 --> 01:41:37,060
decision on, it,

1199
01:41:39,980 --> 01:41:46,640
no, um, a spursons on this particular project are you in particular being

1200
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:51,480
here because we're talking about doing this for any potential development that asks for it

1201
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:51,980
in the future.

1202
01:41:52,260 --> 01:41:58,720
So this, this shouldn't be on just your shoulders, um, but I, I want us to make the right

1203
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:27,260
decision here and I, is there any way for us to table this for a short time until we can gather and see if a CSCDA has more complete information perhaps a representative in the area that could come and talk to us about it, but just to give us a greater sense.

1204
01:42:27,260 --> 01:42:31,160
And it's just a totally brand new concept here.

1205
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:41,720
I'd never heard of it before my gender review, and I don't feel comfortable making a choice

1206
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:48,020
to do this without a deeper dive into the JPA and what it all means.

1207
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:57,280
Vice Mayor Hoke, followed by councilmember Franco, or did you still have anything for councilmember

1208
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:57,540
Franco?

1209
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:58,400
Thank you, Mayor.

1210
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:08,400
So, I don't know anything about the CSTA, but I have heard about the Melo-Ruz project.

1211
01:43:08,980 --> 01:43:12,600
And please correct me if I'm wrong, because this is before my time.

1212
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:15,980
But isn't that a tax for public infrastructure?

1213
01:43:17,500 --> 01:43:22,220
One of the things you can finance through a community facilities district is infrastructure.

1214
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:27,320
Other things you can finance through an assessment district is fees.

1215
01:43:28,300 --> 01:43:36,760
This feels like a public subsidy on a housing project, which ties the topic to maybe something

1216
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:43,500
like the projects in Los Angeles, and I don't feel like a project in District 1 goes well.

1217
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:50,740
In any way, nor have I heard any clear evidence of actual savings to the homeowner of

1218
01:43:50,740 --> 01:43:56,880
the unit that hasn't been articulated here, and I don't know given that 500 cities in California

1219
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:02,560
have participated that we're unable to produce any percentage even with different markets in place.

1220
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:11,360
Lastly, I feel like this opens up the floodgates for any developer to essentially take a loan

1221
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:17,060
on the state and save some money while they increase their profits yet they don't care about

1222
01:44:17,060 --> 01:44:21,960
the resident that's going to be there in the future. So at this point I've made up my mind and I will

1223
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:27,480
declining further maneuver on this project? Thank you.

1224
01:44:32,970 --> 01:44:36,950
So based on the mix of questions and feedback

1225
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:45,150
I've heard, well I guess at first to mat on the specific project clearly that wants to seek this if we

1226
01:44:45,150 --> 01:44:54,330
said yes to it, is there any critical concern on saying we wanted to lay this up to one month on making

1227
01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:59,910
decision that that would kill the project. I guess I'm looking to you. Just because there's a lot more information.

1228
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,220
It sounds like we need up here. It would surprise me if it just from what I've heard. If it got three votes tonight, but I haven't heard outright no beyond one, maybe two council members.

1229
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:17,400
So I'm on the side of get more information, kick it out up to a month.

1230
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:18,840
Probably not too weak.

1231
01:45:19,220 --> 01:45:27,100
Permit issuance for the project is kind of projected in the first part of 2027. So we do have a window of time here.

1232
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:33,720
to, now bond issuance and assessment district formation takes time, but I think we do have probably

1233
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:39,460
30 days reasonably to come back with some more information and still not dramatically change

1234
01:45:39,460 --> 01:45:45,820
the timeline for this specific project. And would that be reasonable saying bring it back

1235
01:45:45,820 --> 01:45:50,880
at the September 8th meeting or more like the September 22nd meeting? September 22nd meeting

1236
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:55,380
would be my preference. Because that would be my, I guess we would just do that as a motion,

1237
01:45:55,380 --> 01:46:00,740
And that would be my motion on this would to be bringing this item back with more information

1238
01:46:00,740 --> 01:46:01,240
and counsel.

1239
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:05,220
Of course, continue sending any questions directly to staff between now and that item.

1240
01:46:06,740 --> 01:46:09,980
Because it sounds like what I'm hearing, including myself leaving this way would need more

1241
01:46:09,980 --> 01:46:10,840
information on it.

1242
01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:12,860
I'm not totally opposed to it.

1243
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:18,880
By any means, I just, and I don't want to see it kill this project, too, or substantially

1244
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,880
negatively impacted stability to deliver the amount of units that have been improved.

1245
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:29,280
But yeah, I'd be supportive of bringing the item back at or before this September 22nd meeting.

1246
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:30,280
That'd be my motion.

1247
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,820
I'll ask if there's a second on it and then see if there's other comments.

1248
01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:34,820
But would there be a second on that motion?

1249
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:35,960
I'm happy to second.

1250
01:46:36,260 --> 01:46:37,380
I'm sorry, Vice Mayor Hook.

1251
01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:39,660
She can second but I'd like to add a question to that.

1252
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:40,460
Yeah, of course.

1253
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:47,420
I understand that the housing development on that site will not count towards the rena numbers

1254
01:46:47,420 --> 01:46:49,300
that the state is asking for.

1255
01:46:49,300 --> 01:47:01,520
So I feel like if something like this were to pass and other developers were to take advantage of it would this again open the floodgates for more housing to be built yet we the city are still held accountable by the state.

1256
01:47:02,020 --> 01:47:03,700
To account for arena numbers.

1257
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:17,440
Council member Franco this will this project because it was not included in our housing element does not change it still counts toward our arena allocation so it's not a site that we identified but all of the units and the affordable units count towards our arena allocation.

1258
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:19,480
Thank you, Director Fox.

1259
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,860
Motion in a second, Council Member Sone.

1260
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,720
I would just like to ask staff.

1261
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,900
If you find out that any cities, especially local,

1262
01:47:33,620 --> 01:47:40,480
joined this JPA in recent years, like in the last four or five years,

1263
01:47:41,020 --> 01:47:46,620
if you could identify that for us because they may have some research

1264
01:47:46,620 --> 01:47:52,920
and discussion in their meetings that might help bring some light to some of the questions we're

1265
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:54,200
asking as well.

1266
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,020
Thank you. Mayor, I missed the second on that motion.

1267
01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:04,960
They did it at the same time and then, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1268
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:10,180
Frank, go declines. And then, Mayor, if I could recommend you add to the motion to continue

1269
01:48:10,180 --> 01:48:14,920
the public hearing so we don't have to re-advertise. Right, added to the motion is worded by our

1270
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:20,440
be clerk and this is the second. Continue. All right. Please like to vote.

1271
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,800
Well, the title still says adopting a resolution off.

1272
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,660
It does say a man. So a man is as the recommendation.

1273
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:52,440
I see. I see. I got to amend motion to bring it in the in late September, September 22nd

1274
01:48:52,440 --> 01:48:54,760
return with more information.

1275
01:48:55,440 --> 01:49:02,520
Right, bring the item back and then with additional information based on questions stated today and then any other questions Council has between now and then.

1276
01:49:02,660 --> 01:49:04,460
Yeah, then can I add one more.

1277
01:49:04,460 --> 01:49:09,300
Yeah, any questions even after the meeting as part of the item.

1278
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:13,880
Additional things to bring back.

1279
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:28,780
And if we can see if there's any consideration of putting that in writing for being more competitively priced house, if Meloruz was implemented.

1280
01:49:32,440 --> 01:49:33,200
Not sure if I understand.

1281
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:34,060
What you want.

1282
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,760
You want Leonardo to guarantee a lower price?

1283
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,580
Yeah, like a competitiveness.

1284
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,440
In other words, can you spell it out in terms of like dollars and cents?

1285
01:49:43,440 --> 01:49:48,320
you know, how much would it be saving the based on current market price and so on?

1286
01:49:48,460 --> 01:49:54,340
Because it seems like there is a belief that Meloruz will drop the sale price.

1287
01:49:55,020 --> 01:50:00,760
Right? That's what I thought I heard. That's part of the idea that information we are bringing back.

1288
01:50:01,060 --> 01:50:08,380
Yeah. Okay. Just but I don't think we can ask a builder to commit to a specific number

1289
01:50:08,380 --> 01:50:09,240
That's part of this.

1290
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:10,020
Mark, it is full.

1291
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:16,360
Yeah, fluctuating, getting in and whatnot, and it's all based on the location, location, location.

1292
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:22,040
So, I get that, but I just need something to change my mind about this.

1293
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:23,140
Thank you.

1294
01:50:24,460 --> 01:50:24,900
Great.

1295
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,560
Thank you.

1296
01:50:26,860 --> 01:50:28,700
Council member, I did you select your vote.

1297
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:29,220
You did.

1298
01:50:29,660 --> 01:50:30,520
Thank you.

1299
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,240
Motion pass four to one to amend.

1300
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,560
And usually this is when we take a break, we only have one item left in study session that

1301
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:38,880
should last a couple minutes.

1302
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,280
So I'm going to, unless anyone wants to say a break,

1303
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,540
I'm just going to recommend we'd go through it, right?

1304
01:50:45,260 --> 01:50:46,300
I don't know.

1305
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:47,100
Adrian.

1306
01:50:47,780 --> 01:50:48,500
I'd like to really recommend.

1307
01:50:49,060 --> 01:50:50,040
The newly-relations city-click.

1308
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,100
This is item 9A discussing for red direction,

1309
01:50:52,340 --> 01:50:55,320
regarding the council to use annual conference voting delegates

1310
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:56,340
and alternate delegates.

1311
01:50:56,700 --> 01:50:57,320
Thank you, Mayor.

1312
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,100
The council's conference is in Anaheim this year,

1313
01:51:00,260 --> 01:51:03,960
September 23rd through the 25th at the Convention Center.

1314
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:08,740
And tonight I'm asking Council to make two discussions.

1315
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:21,480
Our two decisions, the first is to select a voting delegate in an alternate and the second is to provide direction on how to vote on the one resolution for consideration titled

1316
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:33,940
Resolution of the General Assembly of the League of California Cities, calling for working group to consider a state constitutional amendment or other form of initiative to ensure final local authority over

1317
01:51:33,940 --> 01:51:36,000
housing and land use decisions.

1318
01:51:37,580 --> 01:51:45,720
So first, if Council would like to select a voting delegate and an alternate and no

1319
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:46,580
public comments.

1320
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:47,760
Public comments.

1321
01:51:48,060 --> 01:51:51,280
And then, uh, all right, well, who's going to be around then and wants to do it.

1322
01:51:51,460 --> 01:51:52,920
It's just down, I mean, it's on it.

1323
01:51:52,980 --> 01:51:54,380
And it's usually on a Friday.

1324
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:55,780
Yeah, it's on a Friday.

1325
01:51:55,940 --> 01:52:01,320
Usually at like, I've done it a couple of times, uh, it's it's pretty early in the morning.

1326
01:52:01,480 --> 01:52:02,480
I'm fine being the alternate.

1327
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:07,340
I mean, I'm getting my kids preschool an hour earlier than I typically would because I'd have to get them there

1328
01:52:07,340 --> 01:52:12,720
much earlier than that. So I prefer not to be the rep, but it's as anyone else want to be the rep.

1329
01:52:14,410 --> 01:52:15,050
Anyone in town?

1330
01:52:15,570 --> 01:52:16,930
I'm looking at some of your friends.

1331
01:52:17,050 --> 01:52:24,170
I'd like to help if it serves the council to represent and cast the vote if necessary. Thank you.

1332
01:52:24,330 --> 01:52:25,730
All right, so call for thumbs.

1333
01:52:26,450 --> 01:52:27,270
Frank O'Delligat.

1334
01:52:27,530 --> 01:52:28,650
Trout alternate. All right.

1335
01:52:29,670 --> 01:52:35,150
And then how to vote, and that's, that is the only one, is the deadline already passed.

1336
01:52:35,150 --> 01:52:36,430
That is the only one, correct.

1337
01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:42,170
There could be resolutions or bylaw amendments from the floor, but this is what we've received today.

1338
01:52:43,050 --> 01:52:47,150
And just confirmed, because in the packet, it didn't really have any groups that have been opposing it.

1339
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:52,690
Not a ton supporting it yet, but is there any, was there any opposition that was filed?

1340
01:52:52,810 --> 01:52:53,530
I didn't see any.

1341
01:52:53,670 --> 01:52:55,010
I didn't see any either.

1342
01:52:55,010 --> 01:53:00,030
just letters of support from a few cities mostly in the inland empire.

1343
01:53:00,230 --> 01:53:05,200
Cal cities saying we're about local control. I think that's all they repeat 100 times a day.

1344
01:53:06,210 --> 01:53:13,790
And don't want to say no to that. So anyone have a strong opinion on the item one way or the other

1345
01:53:13,790 --> 01:53:18,950
how we want to direct councilman refer and go to vote. Local control.

1346
01:53:23,530 --> 01:53:23,710
All right.

1347
01:53:24,750 --> 01:53:26,670
So I'll call for them to support the item.

1348
01:53:29,140 --> 01:53:30,200
All right. Thank you.

1349
01:53:31,860 --> 01:53:38,000
And obviously the direction, just so it's clear, because it was a question, I think my first or second year on council, it came up.

1350
01:53:38,140 --> 01:53:43,420
If it materially changes between now and then, like, there's amendments that can kind of happen on the floor and stuff, obviously.

1351
01:53:44,220 --> 01:53:45,540
You have freedom of the vote.

1352
01:53:45,780 --> 01:53:48,280
However, you would like, and this thing is in the best interest of the city.

1353
01:53:48,420 --> 01:53:51,080
So I just want to make that clear in case you vote, the other direction, because it changes.

1354
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,500
So there have been changes before and on the floor.

1355
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,840
I remember if art, I think it was art, and he should go to the other way, and it was good thing he did.

1356
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:08,480
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, just one update, the Finance Department is having a barbeque next week.

1357
01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:11,280
And I think a lot of you have been invited to that.

1358
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:13,280
If you're able to attend, thank you very much.

1359
01:54:13,420 --> 01:54:15,040
It concludes my report, Mr. Mayor.

1360
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:16,760
Commission committee update.

1361
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:21,700
Yes, there is going to be an upcoming vacancy and district one for the cultural engagement,

1362
01:54:21,940 --> 01:54:23,580
effective August 19.

1363
01:54:24,540 --> 01:54:28,720
The council member has been advised, and that posting will go up on August 19.

1364
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:38,340
I think there's also going to be a vacancy for the Climate Action District 2, so I have a recommendation to amend that.

1365
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:38,900
Okay.

1366
01:54:40,180 --> 01:54:42,520
We haven't received a resignation letter as of yet.

1367
01:54:43,060 --> 01:54:46,240
So we will post the vacancy once we receive the resignation letter.

1368
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:46,660
Sounds good.

1369
01:54:46,900 --> 01:54:47,180
Thank you.

1370
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:47,760
You're welcome.

1371
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:49,340
All right.

1372
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:50,600
Seeing nothing further, meetings adjourned.