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May I have a roll call, please?

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» Lias here.

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» Major O Kelly

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» Here. Will you please join me for the

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pledge of

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» Allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» Thank you very much.

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So, we've all received the minutes for

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the three meetings we've had since the

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last time we met. Has anybody have had a

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chance to read them? have any comments,

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corrections, revisions to the minutes of

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the last three meetings, including the

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one the orientation meeting

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» And move approval.

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» Move approval. I have a move to a motion

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to approve. Do I have a second?

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» All in favor of accepting these minutes

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indicate by saying I.

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» Opposed? Nay.

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» The minutes are adopted. Uh the adoption

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of the agenda. We've all had a chance to

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see the agenda. Does anybody have any

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additions, revisions, or corrections to

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our current agenda?

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approve the the agenda as written.

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» Very good. Thank you. I got it. You got

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it. Okay. Thank you very much. All in

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favor of approving the agenda as written

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So, uh, do we have any visitors to be

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heard on items not on the agenda?

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topic and remarks are limited to to five

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minutes and no decision will made at

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this time by the city council. Public

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testimony on items on the agenda.

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Okay. Very good. We will move on to our

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There we go. Um, so the first one is the

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resolution authorizing application for

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financial assistance for the Cotton Park

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parking lot. Jim,

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» Good evening members of the council. Uh,

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background here. The Cotton Park parking

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lot was built in around 1980 and was

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held up well over the years um through

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multiple water or flood events. However,

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the flood event in June of 24 caused

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significant damage to both the pavement

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and underlying base, resulting in

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buckling, crumbling, and rapid

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deterioration of the parking lot. At the

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same time, the Cotton Park parking lot

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has been getting heavily used with the

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new addition of the courts down there,

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uh the dis the disc golf course, the uh

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new shelter that we have in there, and

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still stands as kind of the parking lot

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main area for the hike bike path area.

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Um, the item that you have before you

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tonight is a required public hearing

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associated with the USDA rural

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development grant application. This

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hearing gives residents the opportunity

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to learn about the project, ask

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questions, and provide feedback before

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the city submits its application. The

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project was identified in the city's

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2026 CIP with an estimated cost of

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$450,000.

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Based on the discussions with the USDA

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rural development, grant funding could

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possibly cover half the construction

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costs with the city's anticipated share

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coming from the second penny. The

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parking lot details, just a quick

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overview. Um, we're going to keep the

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parking lot within the same size or

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footprint that it is at now. Replace the

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existing asphalt with concrete just for

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longevity and and a better surface um to

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resist flooding or other possible future

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flood events. parking capacity of about

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63 stalls and widening the entrance from

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20 feet to 36 feet. Uh at this time, the

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only cost is associated with this is the

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the uh publication of the required

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public hearing notice. The grant

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application will be submitted this fall

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and if funding is awarded, construction

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would begin in early 2027. Staff is

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recommending approval of the resolution

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so the city can move forward with the

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USDA rule development grant application

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process. Um, tonight I have Clinton

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Christensen who has helped from SECOG

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which has helped or write this grant for

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the city. Um, and we'd be open to

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entertain any questions that council or

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the public may have.

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Thank you very much. Are there any

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members of the public wish to comment on

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this matter?

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How about members of the council? Gary.

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Oh, sorry. Gary was a little Go ahead.

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You go Gary first, then Jay. So Jim,

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when I read this this afternoon, I

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you're you're going to be putting

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concrete down instead of asphalt. I get

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that, but I also know concrete cracks,

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too. Uh is this going to be some kind of

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a special concrete to help withstand the

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the virtues of that river or what's the

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» That's a great question. And to help me

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concrete. Uh, the concrete's going to be

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jointed. So, hopefully that's going to

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take care of most of the cracking. Um,

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that you typically might see if it's not

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jointed. Uh, in addition to that, the

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base of it is going to be reinforced.

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to be using some uh my gosh, it's

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sorry. We're going to be reinforcing the

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base. uh regardless of that. And then

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we're also going to be uh adding some

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fabric to make sure that all the fines

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and all the gravel stays underneath the

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concrete road. So all of these items put

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prohibiting the the concrete to fail the

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same way that the asphalt did.

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» Thanks, Jake.

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» Uh maybe you don't know, Jose. You might

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know this as much as anybody, so don't

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go anywhere. Thank you.

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» Uh does the county still plan on like

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wrapping that river down there somewhere

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or are we sure? So, the the county uh we

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to say about a month month and a half

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they're still planning on that. Uh they

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haven't uh the project their project

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hasn't gone out to bid at this point. Uh

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they are aware that we have this project

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coming up uh early next year more than

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working at that point. They're going to

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be working around our schedule. Uh so we

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they have been made aware of it. I think

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right now they're trying to uh maybe uh

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have their uh their site for equipment

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and so forth on the east side of the

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river. So they're outside of the parking

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lot and the closure of the parking lot

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if it's necessary or will be necessary

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hopefully coincides when they're

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working. So then we can uh minimize the

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impact to the public as much as we can.

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» Yeah. just concerned and I'm sure if

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whole thing done it but there's a lot of

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river water bottom on that land and is

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are we already doing soil testing to

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make sure we're getting down deep enough

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to stabilize the ground before we start

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putting all the concrete in there.

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» So the it was we did actually did I

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think two borings two soil borings on

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the parking lot itself. Uh the geotech

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subbase. Uh and we're going to be using

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what what to use on the base then.

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grant application as well.

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» Uh why are we widening the driveway from

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» So right now there are some issues. Uh

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where they're and they're turning, uh

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vehicles uh getting stuck, not stuck,

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but they just take their time. So we

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don't want to we don't want to have cars

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stopping on Dakota Street waiting for

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somebody to turning out of the parking

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lot. 36 ft will allow hopefully for two

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vehicles to to get out whether they're

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going north or south and space for a car

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to come in at the same time.

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regularly and I was glad to see that

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that you're widening that because it is

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it is an issue. Sometimes you have to

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stop and you're in the way. But may I

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ask how you came up with the number of

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parking spots you want? I rarely see

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more than two or three cars there at one

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time. Why do we need 66 or whatever

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parking spots?

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» Yours.

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» So So the the parking layout, as Jim

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mentioned, we are using the same

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footprint. uh we just went ahead and put

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as many as we could that met our

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standard of 9 by8 and 63 was what we

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came with. Uh there there isn't in this

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instance we didn't actually have a

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formula to go uh to go through. We just

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tried to at least have the the same

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amount that we had prior uh which I

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think was 558.

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Uh and then uh we just put as many as we

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could but we tried to not go below that

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number.

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I I get that that was clear in the memo,

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but uh there's I mean I've I don't think

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I've even for parties I bet I've seen 10

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there maybe somebody had a birthday

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party down there.

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» I can say that when I personally have

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gone pickle to play pickle ball. Uh I

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have probably seen about maybe half to

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3/4 of that parking lot full. And it's

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not with just people that play pickle

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ball. We also have people that go and

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maybe are using the the shelter or

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taking their kids over to the playground

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equipment or playing frisbee golf. So, a

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lot of these things tend to come at the

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» I'm with you. It's probably rare, but we

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want to have the capacity for the

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» Yeah, cuz otherwise they don't have a

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place to park, right? Where are they

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going to park?

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» Don't allow parking on Dakota Street.

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» Very good. And if I may, I think you're

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only going to see Cotton Park being

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expanded down there as as um there's a

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new playground going to go down there

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hopefully within the next couple years.

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Um once the pickle ball courts really

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get used and and found out about, I

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think you're going to see heavier

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heavier traffic down there. So, we want

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to prepare for that as well.

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» Fair enough. Any further questions or qu

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comments from the city?

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» Nope. Uh the staff recommends adoption

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of this uh resolution. There's no

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financial consideration. Do I have a

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motion to adopt this or to approve this

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resolution?

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» Second.

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» All in favor indic.

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» I post nay. Passes. Thank you very much.

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Jim.

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» Don't go. There you go. There you go.

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Don't go too far away. First reading of

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the uh uh blue stem trail edition

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resoning for the co-ousing project. Yep.

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Jose,

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» Thank you. Uh so the city has been

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working with the owner of this property

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since 2024. Uh this property is located

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on the east side of Crawford Road. Um oh

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where is it? Here it is.

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All right. So this property is uh

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located on the east side of North

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Crawford Road and about 400 ft north of

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East Maine. Uh it's about uh 15 acres in

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size. As you can see, some of this

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property is uh within the R2 residential

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district, which is this pink area. Uh

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and then also within the NRC uh natural

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resource conservation district. Uh the

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R3 district does uh touch or is

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adjoining the property in question by

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this little strip right here. Uh this uh

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property was annexed into the city in

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March 2026. Um as such uh the property

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owner uh has a process to follow for uh

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for reszoning. Uh and this process the

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the the fact that some of it was already

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within city limits and another portion

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was actually annexed at a later time

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makes that process a little bit uh

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different than typical uh for anything

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that's already within city limits like

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this R2 area. uh for that to be

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resoneed, the property owner would

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actually be required to acquire

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signatures or petitions from uh property

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owners within 250 ft of that area. But

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then the area that was recently annexed,

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so essentially this uh shaded area or

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the NRC area, well, he's not required to

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do that. Uh so what staff uh did was to

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essentially remove the requirement to uh

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to file an application and to pay the

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reszoning fee but still was required to

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to acquire all the signatures as far as

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the petitions and all the notices and

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all the letters. All of that was still

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sent to the property owners. Uh based on

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that u the owner's plan is to develop

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the area for residential uses. Uh the

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intent is to have uh

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the intent is to actually have Oh, let

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me sorry

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it's on the other side.

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The intent is to actually have uh some

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town homes on the north side and on the

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west side and then this large area here

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would be uh the co-ousing area. uh that

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co-housing area uh looking at it right

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here uh would then be actually composed

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of uh several I think it's 26 units uh

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and then a larger u house I guess if you

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want to call it that where they would be

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able to have more shared meals and a

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space to share maybe have some get

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togethers and so forth along with some

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green spaces. Uh all of these uh shared

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uses would be available to the to the

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residents of this co-housing project uh

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this uh this staff uh after talking to

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the with the owner uh we propose that

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this area should actually be resone to

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the R3 district rather rather than the

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R2 uh choice the the reasons for that is

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that the uh a lot of the the items that

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would actually be considered uh

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essential for the co-ousing uh some of

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the the driveways private roads. Uh the

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lack of frontages for each of these

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individual properties would make it

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difficult to be in the R2. So again, the

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R3. In addition to that, then you also

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had the size of the development. Uh the

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R2 sets a max uh of 16 bedrooms. Uh this

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development would have somewhere between

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52 and 54. Uh so again, that's that's a

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larger number that would have actually

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been allowed in the R2. Uh so all of

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these items put together then uh would

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benefit or would point to this area

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being reszoned to the R3 district if

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possible. Uh this item was considered by

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the planning and zoning commission on

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August 10th. Uh at that meeting uh one

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individual did uh talk in favor of the

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proposed project and and recommended or

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said that the item should be approved by

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the PL by the city council. Uh after a

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brief discussion, the commission

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recommended unanimously A to Z for the

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city council to approve the reszoning uh

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the resone as proposed by staff.

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Administration and the planning

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commission recommend that the city

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council advance the ordinance uh to a

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second reading on September 8th.

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» Thank you very much. Are there any

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members of the public who have a comment

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about this proposed ordinance?

408
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» No. How about members of the city

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council? Any comments or suggestions?

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Would Lindsay beat you yet? Gary

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Lindsay,

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» Um, can you I'm a little confused by

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some of the roads that are note are

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notated on these maps. Should we take

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that I mean to heart. For example, Clark

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Street. Is that is that going to be

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Clark Street?

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» So Clark Street right now is there's a

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cutout for Clark on this side.

420
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Right. I don't know if you can see that

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little

422
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I don't want to say trust me but trust

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me Clark Street is right there right now

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the the remainder of that would be

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platted if Clark Street would be

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continued west of that point it would uh

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connect to the Clark Street at Norbec.

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So the proposal is to extend that uh

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further east and then on this

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development here then that would turn

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north and uh follow the 16th line at

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that point.

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» It's at least close enough to get a

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little angle and connect the other side.

435
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» No, it's right across it. There's no

436
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angle. [laughter]

437
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» Gary, did you have a comment?

438
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» Yeah. Am I going to assume that uh I

439
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read this in here, but uh a lot of the

440
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uh communal housing in there is going to

441
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be for seniors?

442
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» My understanding is that all of it is

443
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going to be for

444
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» All of it's going to be for

445
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» And we're talking about this this area

446
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here, the the area that's the co-housing

447
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portion of it,

448
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» But not the town homes.

449
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» No, the town homes, anybody can move

450
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there is my understanding. Again,

451
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» I'm certainly happy to hear that. I

452
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think one of the things that of course

453
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we've been discussing is a need for

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senior housing.

455
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» Anybody have any questions? I I have a

456
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question that I don't remember the

457
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parking rules by heart the formulas but

458
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is how about the R3 off streetet parking

459
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uh formula. Does this meet that the

460
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requirements of zoning?

461
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» So it will

462
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» There is there is one, right? I'm sorry.

463
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There is one there is a formula for

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» Yeah, there is uh we we haven't looked

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at that at this point as much uh just

466
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because we're just talking about

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reszoning. Uh but through conversations

468
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with the developer and the owner, uh my

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our understanding is that all of these

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units is going to they're going to have

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enough space within the driveway

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» Uh to account for their parking. They're

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they're also going to have a one-stall

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garage. So the ordinance also allows for

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the one stall garage to account for

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that. Uh and then they're also going to

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be having parking spaces in front of the

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the larger house uh as well. So that

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also accounts can be used for that

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formula.

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» I understand that question might be

482
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premature at this point.

483
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» Yep.

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» All right. So any other comments or

485
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questions for Jose?

486
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Well, I would entertain a motion to uh

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advance this to a second reading on

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September 8th if anybody was so willing

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to move that.

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Is there a second? Second.

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» All in favor of moving this uh planning

492
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zoning commission or advancing ordinance

493
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1573 to a second read September 8th.

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Please indicate saying I.

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» I oppose. Nay.

496
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Motion passes. Thank you.

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One question. No comments yet from our

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This is very good.

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» Uh okay. Item seven, consent agenda.

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Uh any item listed on the consent agenda

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may by the request of any single council

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member be considered a separate item

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under the new business section of the

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agenda. If a member of the public would

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like to discuss any consent agenda item,

506
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please notify the well me during the

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public comment period to have it

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considered a separate item. Does anybody

509
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have any questions or comments on or

510
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anything removed from the consent

511
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agenda?

512
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I don't know if you were standing up to

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come forward. You're you're good. Okay.

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Anybody on the city council have any

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items they want remove from the consent

516
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agenda and move to new business?

517
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If not, I would entertain a motion to

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approve the consent agenda items.

519
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» Is there a second?

520
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Second.

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» All in favor of approving the consent

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agenda items indicate by saying I. I.

523
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» Opposed? Nay. Consent agenda passes.

524
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Okay, old business. We have none. No old

525
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business. Moving on to new business.

526
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Mid-American, please come forward.

527
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» This is my first year of meeting you.

528
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So, if you can remind me of your name

529
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and

530
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» Great uh Sam Wagner, business and

531
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community development manager with uh

532
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Mid-American Energy. So, mayor, good to

533
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meet you from the other side of the

534
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room. practically. Um so, hey, uh

535
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members of the council, uh John, it's

536
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good to see you again. Um as part of

537
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our, uh franchise agreement with with

538
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the uh city of Vermillion, um you're

539
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blessed on an annual basis to have me

540
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come and tell you about uh all the great

541
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things Mid-American is doing here, uh in

542
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Vermillion. Um and so uh you know

543
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honestly last year was kind of a light

544
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year in terms of uh uh new projects uh

545
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:46,960
new services uh within the within the

546
00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:48,960
city. Um it was um sort of I don't have

547
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,559
the exact figures but in terms of like

548
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,880
the number of projects it was down a

549
00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:55,760
little bit this year. Um but we've had

550
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,000
some uh uh some residential services uh

551
00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:02,640
that we've run a couple of new services

552
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,840
over at the ICU everywhere these days.

553
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,919
I don't know if that's a good thing or

554
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,520
not. Um, uh, couple of projects, a

555
00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:11,840
couple of new services at the, uh,

556
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:15,440
University of South Dakota, uh, that,

557
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:19,679
uh, that were wrapped up. Um, and then,

558
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:21,280
uh, in terms of, uh, coverage, um, the,

559
00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:23,440
uh, staff coverage that we have for the

560
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,360
city of Vermillion, uh, to cover these

561
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,520
things. Uh, primarily, um, our

562
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:32,000
engineering staff is based out of, uh,

563
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:35,440
Sou Falls. Um, so we have uh our uh our

564
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,360
lead tech uh for Vermillion uh Tim Forch

565
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,360
uh who's actually done this presentation

566
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:42,320
uh on occasion in the past. Uh Tim

567
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:46,559
continues to uh chase down projects and

568
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:49,120
uh uh deliver on those uh designs uh for

569
00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:51,919
uh new services uh commercial and

570
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:53,360
residential and and industrial when they

571
00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:55,840
come up. So he continues to cover

572
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:58,559
Vermillion. We have a couple of uh field

573
00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:02,320
guys uh that are based uh here in

574
00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:04,320
Vermillion. Um that has not changed. Um

575
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,880
and all of that is backed up by

576
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,520
operational teams out of Sou Falls and

577
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,600
Sous City. And uh if we need to, we'll

578
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,120
go tap the few guys up in Yankton as

579
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,360
well to come down if there's any kind of

580
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:17,440
emergency. So Vermillion really does

581
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:20,320
kind of sit in a in kind of a sweet spot

582
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,919
in terms of uh available resources from

583
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,000
uh the engineering, design, and

584
00:22:21,919 --> 00:22:28,400
operational standpoint.

585
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:32,240
um uh had them run some uh on that

586
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:35,840
operational side um leaks uh you know

587
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:39,360
gas leaks on occasion. So uh we had

588
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:41,760
within the last 12 months we've had 167

589
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,919
uh reported leaks uh within uh

590
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,440
Vermillion. Usually that's just like you

591
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:48,159
know you know within homes and

592
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,760
residences and and small businesses. Uh

593
00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:51,440
nothing major, nothing super dangerous,

594
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,960
but it's something that we hop on very

595
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:57,840
very quickly. So out of that 167 uh

596
00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,720
number 165 of those leaks were addressed

597
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,880
and dealt with within 60 minutes. Uh the

598
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:06,080
remaining two went over that 60-minute

599
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,600
mark primarily because of weather. So,

600
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,240
um,

601
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,240
uh, mainly, uh, oh, and the other thing

602
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,240
I want to point out is, uh, in recent

603
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,840
years, we've gotten on to, uh, kind of

604
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:21,280
a, uh, annual, uh, rotation, uh, to meet

605
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:23,440
with, u, uh, John and his staff, uh, to

606
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,880
review upcoming projects. Um, that

607
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,760
meeting is coming up. We need to

608
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,760
schedule that. Um, but, uh, we we do

609
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,080
that at least on a on an annual basis.

610
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,360
Looking forward to doing that again. Um,

611
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,200
next time I think we should have that

612
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,480
meeting before I address your council.

613
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,280
Give me better material.

614
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,159
» Okay.

615
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,600
» So, um, but with that I'll take any

616
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:43,039
questions you might have.

617
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,640
» Thank you. Thank you very much, Sam.

618
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:48,320
Does any member of the public have any

619
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,679
questions for a mid- American?

620
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,960
» Okay. Al,

621
00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:54,480
» Well, just when you said 167 leaks, I'm

622
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,520
went that may not be much to you, but to

623
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,000
me it sounds like a lot.

624
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,679
» Sure.

625
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,760
» Would Would the majority of those be

626
00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:02,159
things like pilot light went out, they

627
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,600
just had to relight it? I mean, or gas

628
00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,799
leak going into the house. And what

629
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,120
would you how would you paraphrase?

630
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:09,760
» Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's it's a lot of pilot

631
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:13,279
light stuff. Yeah, it's a lot of pilot

632
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:15,679
light. Um, there uh we've had no major

633
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:17,279
leaks uh in Vermillion during that time.

634
00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:19,840
So, yeah, that number I think can be a

635
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:23,120
little uh a little alarming when you see

636
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,960
it. Um but uh you know that's part of

637
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:27,120
what we do when managing our system is

638
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,640
if if we have a molecule of gas that's

639
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:31,520
leaking out that we're that we're made

640
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,360
aware of, we jump on it. And um you know

641
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,120
each one of these systems and homes of

642
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:39,600
varying varying ages and and um uh

643
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,440
conditions and so on does present a lot

644
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,279
of opportunities for that and so we

645
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,360
chase those down as quickly as we can.

646
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:49,679
So yeah, nothing major.

647
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:51,120
» I think Jay was first. I can help you a

648
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:52,320
little bit with that, Al. Um, I did have

649
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,760
to call you guys this last year.

650
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,679
Something simple as I got a new gas

651
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,559
range and the coupler that came with it

652
00:24:55,679 --> 00:25:00,799
to catch the old gas pipe, there was

653
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:02,080
like a a coupler head versus a flathead

654
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,360
or something, whatever it was. I had the

655
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,240
wrong one and it was just slightly

656
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,919
leaking,

657
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600
» But the guy who came was very very

658
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:09,440
helpful and very friendly and he he

659
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,799
pulled out his little scanner deal and

660
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,799
say, "Yeah, there's a slight leak back

661
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,640
there and told me exactly the one to get

662
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:14,960
and got it and fixed it up."

663
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,400
» Yeah.

664
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,520
» So, it's just simple stuff like that was

665
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,480
like 10 15 minute fix.

666
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,840
Lindsay, would you Oh, no, sorry, Julia.

667
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,200
» Well, I guess it's a little unfair if

668
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,600
you haven't met with John yet, but I

669
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,039
just want to see with our new expansions

670
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,400
and developments, you know, especially

671
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:33,760
as we are not just building new homes or

672
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,840
apartments, but sort of expanding

673
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,080
outside of uh previous limits, do you

674
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,520
all feel properly informed and prepared

675
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,880
for such expansions?

676
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,799
» Yeah. Yeah, we do. And um uh yeah, we're

677
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,960
well familiar with the uh with the

678
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,480
growth patterns um and some of the

679
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,000
annexation plans that the city of

680
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,200
Vermillion has. And so part of that

681
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,520
coordination is just um allowing us to

682
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,600
kind of see what's coming so that we can

683
00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,240
half the half the phone is keeping up

684
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,240
with you guys. Um so yeah, I think we're

685
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,480
in a pretty good spot there. Um there's

686
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,240
nothing even, you know, even the uh uh

687
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,720
proposed development that was described

688
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,960
earlier, that's not a particular concern

689
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,000
of ours. And we've also had a number

690
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:17,120
over the last couple of years um uh

691
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,480
several uh like infill uh infill

692
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:22,240
projects um that has kind of allowed us

693
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,000
to kind of reconfigure our system and

694
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:28,240
take advantage of those infill projects

695
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,760
to uh prepare for future growth and

696
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,440
understanding where the annexation

697
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,360
patterns are are are headed are

698
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,120
incredibly important to us. And so

699
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,520
coordinating with John and his team has

700
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,520
been very helpful.

701
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,919
Any other questions for Sam? I have a

702
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,400
question. A couple of weeks ago, we lost

703
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:48,320
we had a burst water pipe. You know, I

704
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,080
mean, these things happen. How are your

705
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,679
pipes? Are they maintained? You have a

706
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,279
replacement schedule. What kind of shape

707
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:54,880
are they in? Are they 20 years more life

708
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,799
or how do you manage your pipes?

709
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,559
» Yeah. So, we go through we go through,

710
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,320
in fact, we just wrapped one up, I

711
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:03,039
think, a couple of years ago. We we'll

712
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,039
we'll focus on the town and do a full uh

713
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:07,679
full review of the pipes underground.

714
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,279
And I want to say I'm kind of going off

715
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:12,240
of memory here, but I want to say we did

716
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:15,440
something uh for Vermillion a couple of

717
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,840
years ago. Um so um that sort of

718
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,480
proactive maintenance, if you will, um

719
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,240
is part of our overall maintenance plan

720
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,919
uh for our, you know, for our system. We

721
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,840
can't do everything all at one time.

722
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:28,320
That's an awful lot of pipes. So we do

723
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,279
concentrate on certain areas um and then

724
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:34,559
come back to them um in a in a rotation

725
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:36,320
and then as problems come up um as they

726
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,559
like your burst water pipe for example

727
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,640
sometimes you know nature has other

728
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,480
plans for us uh we'll respond

729
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080
accordingly but we do have a proactive

730
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,880
maintenance plan all across our entire

731
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
system.

732
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,360
» Thank you. That's comforting and we

733
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,200
appreciate that.

734
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,600
» Y

735
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,039
» Are there any other questions for Sam?

736
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,720
In that case, thank you very much and

737
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,440
we'll see you next year after you meet

738
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,880
with John.

739
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,200
» Yep, that's true. Oh, and uh we have a

740
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,279
franchise coming up. So, uh the

741
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,200
franchise agreement for uh the city of

742
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:08,960
Vermillion comes up in I believe the end

743
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:11,039
of February uh I want to say. So, um yet

744
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,399
more opportunities to uh to work with

745
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,320
the city of Vermillion and put that

746
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,799
agreement in place for the future.

747
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,279
» Okay.

748
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:16,000
» Okay.

749
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:19,159
» Thank you very much.

750
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,159
» Thank you.

751
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,799
» Uh where are we at? So item B, request

752
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,480
to close down uh the road for a

753
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,760
fraternity sorority party. Is that you,

754
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Alex?

755
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,240
» Thank you. So we have a request from the

756
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:33,600
USD sorority and fraternity life. Uh we

757
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,200
have some representatives here from them

758
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,279
as well. Uh they would like to close

759
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,679
East Cedar Street from North Pine Street

760
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:42,640
to North Plum Street on September 17th,

761
00:28:39,679 --> 00:28:44,960
2026 from 5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. for a

762
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,640
block party. Um the actual event itself

763
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,240
will be from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. That

764
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,039
additional time from 5:00 to 6:00 and

765
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,760
from 7:00 to 8 or 8:00 to 9:00 will be

766
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:55,200
for setup and takeown of the event. Um

767
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,399
for the event itself, there will be

768
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,000
three food trucks there. Um and it as

769
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:02,960
the applicants have told me, it will be

770
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,880
a dry event. Um additionally, they will

771
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,640
have a team of five individuals who will

772
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,559
clean up the streets after the event and

773
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:12,159
in in front of the respective houses if

774
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:13,919
those were to get dirty. Um everything

775
00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:15,600
is included in the packet. Our street

776
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:17,520
police fires departments did not have

777
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,960
any issues with this closure. Um

778
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,640
administration recommends that the city

779
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,240
council approved their request to close

780
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,840
East Cedar Street from North Pine Street

781
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,320
to North Plum Street on Thursday,

782
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,760
September 17th, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. to

783
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,880
9:00 p.m. for the USD sority and

784
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,399
fraternity life block party.

785
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,840
» Thank you. Are there any members of the

786
00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:36,399
public who'd like to talk about this

787
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,039
subject?

788
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:43,520
Come on.

789
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:44,880
No. Okay. So, uh I'm glad you told me it

790
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,960
was a dry event because we don't start

791
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,399
driving the bus until 10 o'clock on. All

792
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,000
right. So, I'm not said about that. Yes,

793
00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:53,600
Julia.

794
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720
» Well, first of all, I'm super excited

795
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,995
that you all are celebrating

796
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,520
Constitution Day. So, well, um

797
00:29:57,995 --> 00:30:02,640
[laughter] but then I'm just wondering

798
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:06,720
if there will be an associated um you

799
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:10,080
call that um noise um exemption planned

800
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:13,919
for this as well or if you're not um

801
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,919
anticipating exceeding noise levels.

802
00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:17,520
» I can also assist with that question as

803
00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:19,679
well. With the new noise ordinance that

804
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,039
we passed um with September, it would

805
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,559
need to start at 8, but since they're

806
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:24,000
cleaning up from 8 to 9, we didn't

807
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,520
believe that they needed a noise permit

808
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,799
for it. Okay.

809
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,799
» We also don't plan on using anything.

810
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:32,799
» Hi, I'm Emma. I'm one of the

811
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,640
representatives from student sorority

812
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:36,240
and fraternity life. Um, we don't plan

813
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,559
on using anything bigger than like a

814
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,919
normal standard size speaker. Um, so we

815
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:42,080
don't anticipate it getting super loud

816
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:44,799
and will be cleaned up hopefully by 8:30

817
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,240
at the latest.

818
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,279
» Thank you. Why don't you hang out for a

819
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,000
minute, Emma, in case people have

820
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:53,559
further questions. Okay. Anybody have

821
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,559
any questions for Emma?

822
00:30:55,679 --> 00:31:01,200
Okay. Uh so I would entertain a motion

823
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,960
to approve this uh request to close East

824
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:09,159
Cedar Street from Alpha FE to PYI

825
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,159
uh on September 17th.

826
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,399
» It has been moved. Do I have a second?

827
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,960
» All in favor of allowing the street

828
00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:18,880
closure indicate by saying I

829
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,960
» Oppose? Nay.

830
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:26,200
Motion passes. We'll see you at 10:00.

831
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,200
Thank you.

832
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,840
» All right. So, the first reading of

833
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:34,240
ordinance 1564 about a our cable

834
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,640
franchise agreement with Midco. Uh John.

835
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,399
» Sure. Thank you, mayor. Uh in 2016, the

836
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,000
city council entered into a 10-year

837
00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:42,240
franchise agreement with Midco or

838
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,080
Mid-Continent Communications. Uh as you

839
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,640
might do the math, that is coming to an

840
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,799
expir here um in the coming month.

841
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Actually, it expires in October. We did

842
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,799
receive a proposal from Midco to extend

843
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,799
the existing terms and conditions for an

844
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:57,279
additional 10 years. Uh the only two

845
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:58,960
changes that they are noting is instead

846
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,039
of having a rate card that they would

847
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,360
provide to the city to have on file each

848
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:05,360
time a rate changes, they would uh

849
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,840
maintain a website that continually has

850
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:11,039
the rates available. The second one

851
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,679
really has to do with um FCC order 621.

852
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:17,120
It really has changed how quote free

853
00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:19,120
cable has worked. Um when this ordinance

854
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,679
uh was the last ordinance 1345 was

855
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,279
adopted in 2016, there were a list of

856
00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:24,960
buildings that would receive uh free

857
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:27,919
cable service as part of the franchise

858
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,720
agreement. This FCC order basically

859
00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:33,760
eliminated um the requirement for cable

860
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,880
companies to do that and instead um what

861
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,559
free cable means is that they don't bill

862
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,399
us for the cable, they take it out of

863
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:44,000
the franchise fee payments that we would

864
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:45,519
receive. So, um, Midco and I had a

865
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,080
little discussion as to what really free

866
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:51,200
cable was if you're charging us for it.

867
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,600
Um, but so that is what free cable means

868
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,760
now. Instead of, um, literally being

869
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,080
free, it it comes out of our franchise

870
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,440
uh, fees they would otherwise receive.

871
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Um, and there are three buildings that

872
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,519
we have that receive um, this anymore.

873
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,519
When we this order went into effect

874
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:08,159
about two years ago, there was a lot of

875
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:11,840
different buildings in the community. um

876
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:13,200
uh our schools, uh senior center, um a

877
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,760
lot of different places that did receive

878
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,000
it and those um pretty much all uh were

879
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,080
eliminated from being eligible for free

880
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,720
cable. And now we have three city

881
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,679
buildings that continue to receive um

882
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,480
this city hall here uh building, our

883
00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:30,240
service center, and the fire EMS. Um the

884
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,519
rest of the golf course is handled

885
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120
separately because that has more of a

886
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,279
public viewing than what those other

887
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,279
buildings do. So they literally receive

888
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:40,480
the same bill as somebody would at home.

889
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:43,200
Um I would note that the 5% franchise

890
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,600
fee that's paid on eligible services uh

891
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,519
last year in 2025 that amounted to

892
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,600
$56,112.

893
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,840
So that is revenue that comes uh to the

894
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,399
city from that. Um administration would

895
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,960
recommend that ordinance 1564 to extend

896
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:58,880
the cable franchise agreement with Midco

897
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,240
uh for an additional 10 years be

898
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,159
advanced to a second reading on

899
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,679
September 8th.

900
00:34:02,159 --> 00:34:06,880
» Thank you. Are there any visitors we

901
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:08,320
heard on this subject?

902
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Members of the coun members of the

903
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,320
council.

904
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:18,159
Well, I have a few questions. Is this 5%

905
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,639
normal uh among cities? This is a normal

906
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:23,119
rate that uh people pay.

907
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:25,520
» Yes, the 5% is the highest that is

908
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,800
allowed um by the [clears throat] FCC

909
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,280
and it's pretty typical with most

910
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,359
cities.

911
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,280
» Very good. And my other question was

912
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:32,800
that of the

913
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,679
establishments that used to get free

914
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:40,079
cable that ended two years ago.

915
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:42,480
» I believe it was 2 years ago that there

916
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:44,879
um yes it seemed like not the intern

917
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,079
last summer, the intern year before put

918
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:48,639
all those letters together and we

919
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:51,839
notified those entities and I think um

920
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:54,480
it probably ended around September or so

921
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:56,240
um when it actually took effect. Well,

922
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,160
well, my question is, should those

923
00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:00,000
continue to have free cable? I mean,

924
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,040
they're charging. It's not free anymore,

925
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,800
right? They're they're they're charging

926
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,720
us, so you're subtracting it. Are there

927
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,280
should we, the city, be subsidizing some

928
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:09,119
of these places for their quote unquote

929
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,280
free cable, or did we have that

930
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:13,040
conversation two years ago?

931
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,440
» I don't know. I don't know that it came

932
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,119
before the council. Um I think we viewed

933
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,359
it as um is it city's cost to provide

934
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:23,359
those? And so that's why we we pulled

935
00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:24,880
that back and eliminated we eliminated

936
00:35:23,359 --> 00:35:27,760
several city buildings that had there

937
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,440
was um I know it was in 2024 because

938
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,480
they had sites listed that were no

939
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,000
longer active such as Jolly School um

940
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Austin school were listed on there. So I

941
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,320
know it was in 2024. So part of us

942
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,839
cleaning up their list um but we yeah I

943
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,599
there were some that we approached that

944
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:45,119
were on the list that said we didn't

945
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,119
even know we had it and they were never

946
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,200
hooked up to it or they were using it

947
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,960
for the internet piece.

948
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,440
piece with the school and the main

949
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,760
street center and some of those that are

950
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,359
public good. I mean they're paying now

951
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,119
out of their own pocket for cable. I

952
00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:00,480
assume they all have cable obviously.

953
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,839
» Yeah, that I don't know. We haven't

954
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,640
followed up to see if they still have

955
00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:06,320
cable or not. Um I know Damon Albby and

956
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,920
I had a conversation about it because I

957
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,000
think some of our school buildings had

958
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,000
more interest in it than others.

959
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
» Okay.

960
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,960
» Any questions for John about Yes. Go

961
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,720
ahead, please, Jeff. John, there's no

962
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,400
other companies that want this business

963
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:25,119
other than Midco.

964
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,760
» Good question. It is not exclusive. So,

965
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:29,599
um, Blue Peak, uh, their their

966
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,880
predecessor, but now Blue Peak, you can

967
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:35,359
receive television, um, services through

968
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,119
Blue Peak that qualify as cable. So, if

969
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,960
another cable company comes along and

970
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,800
wants to provide, uh, television

971
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,160
services, it's a non-exclusive

972
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,800
franchise. And so, that's why we're one

973
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,560
of the few that has two of these. in uh

974
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,560
Blue Peak. We've scheduled them for

975
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,960
their annual report just like Sam just

976
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,119
did with Mid American. I think that's in

977
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,599
October they're coming, but they'll come

978
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:58,000
before the city council do their update.

979
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:59,760
» And I should say MidCo's I believe Midco

980
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,119
will be here at our next meeting uh to

981
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,400
present their annual report.

982
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,880
» Thank you. Thank you for clarifying

983
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,079
that. Any other questions for John about

984
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,160
this uh franchise?

985
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:14,480
I would entertain a motion to advance

986
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,960
ordinance 1564 to a second reading on

987
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,480
September 8th.

988
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,160
» Moved seconded. All in favor of

989
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,280
advancing the second reading indicate by

990
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:26,520
saying I.

991
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,520
» I oppose. Nay. Motion passes.

992
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,599
» Uh historical presto historic is it

993
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:33,760
historic or historical? Historic

994
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:36,160
preservation commission appointments. We

995
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,960
have two reappointments. uh when we had

996
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,680
no further no additional applications.

997
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,920
So I would re I recommend with your

998
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,599
consent that we approve Susan Keith Gray

999
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,200
reappoint Susan Keith Gray and Carson

1000
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,760
Murwan to their posts on the historic

1001
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,760
preservation commission.

1002
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,079
Oh, sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Any

1003
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,560
members of the public have a comment on

1004
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,560
this these reappointments?

1005
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,359
Thank Thank you very much. I'll get it.

1006
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:06,599
I'll get it. Five members of the council

1007
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:06,599
have comments.

1008
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,920
» Second.

1009
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,440
» All in favor of reappointing Susan Keith

1010
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Gray and Carson Murkw historic

1011
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560
preservation commission appointment,

1012
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,599
please indicate by saying I. I

1013
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,920
» Oppose. Nay. Appointments are are done.

1014
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:21,440
Very good.

1015
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Um

1016
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,720
what about this? Do we discuss this?

1017
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,280
» You certainly can. So if you want me to

1018
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,800
start off.

1019
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,400
» Yeah, please go ahead. So, at the last

1020
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,119
city council meeting, uh there's a

1021
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,040
question about uh broadcaster press and

1022
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:37,200
how best to handle that. And what we had

1023
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,720
suggested um at that point in time is

1024
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,400
that we would listed as an open account

1025
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,720
claim. So, the next agenda item says

1026
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,839
open account claim uh broadcaster press

1027
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:48,240
for $2,323.34.

1028
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:50,160
Periodically, once to maybe both

1029
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,640
meetings each month due to legal notices

1030
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,240
we place um other ads and those

1031
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,240
respective publications, the broadcast

1032
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:58,240
or plane talk, we receive a a bill at

1033
00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:01,280
least once a month. And so, um, there's

1034
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:03,760
a question with Mr. Lias, um, had, uh,

1035
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,560
worked full-time for broadcaster press

1036
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,640
organization, um, whether or not that

1037
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,160
was a conflict. And so, the proposal was

1038
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,480
that we would just list as an open

1039
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,640
account claim rather than under invoices

1040
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,920
payable. So, it'd be easier, uh, for Mr.

1041
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Lias to abstain um, uh, from voting on

1042
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,880
that versus not being able to vote on

1043
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,200
all of the other um, uh, other bills and

1044
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,040
invoices payable. So we list it under

1045
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,440
invoices payable and it's noted that

1046
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,240
it's under new business and then we list

1047
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,400
the respective account claim here and I

1048
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,920
would suggest that if we have and we do

1049
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,839
from time to time a city council member

1050
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,640
travels on behalf of the city there's

1051
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:42,079
reimbursement um for those items that

1052
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,359
those would be listed in a similar

1053
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:47,599
manner. Um uh the city attorney did

1054
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:50,000
provide guidance after we kind of set up

1055
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:52,480
the system um and I'll let Mr. Hinds if

1056
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,760
you wanted to uh explain it from a more

1057
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,359
legal manner that um as I understand it

1058
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,839
that it wouldn't necessarily need to be

1059
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:01,440
handled this way. It may be a matter of

1060
00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:02,880
um the message that the city council

1061
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,720
wants to communicate or the transparency

1062
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
that you want to communicate with how

1063
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:08,400
you handle this. Right? So generally

1064
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,680
speaking a direct financial interest

1065
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,520
would be someone who is an owner uh of a

1066
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,000
specific entity. If someone were merely

1067
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,839
an employee of that entity we wouldn't

1068
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,640
consider that necessarily a direct

1069
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:22,079
interest. Um that being said, it is a

1070
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,240
responsibility of every individual

1071
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:26,400
member to determine if they have a

1072
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:29,680
conflict where they would want to

1073
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,280
abstain from voting. Um this in this

1074
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,160
particular instance, I don't think it's

1075
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,480
critical. Uh but the member could always

1076
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,200
decide to abstain from the appearance of

1077
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,200
having any sort of direct or indirect

1078
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,200
interest.

1079
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,280
» Thank you.

1080
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:48,320
» Um Council Member Elias did abstain from

1081
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:52,960
voting on this item.

1082
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:54,079
Very good. So, uh, we discussed this at

1083
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,520
our noon meeting. I don't have any

1084
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,319
further questions. Anybody else have any

1085
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,760
further questions regarding this issue?

1086
00:40:58,319 --> 00:41:03,440
Well, I would entertain a motion to pay

1087
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,480
the broadcaster 23234.

1088
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,280
So, move

1089
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,880
» Second.

1090
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,200
» All in favor of paying them paying our

1091
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,119
bill say I.

1092
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,480
» Oppos? Nay.

1093
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:16,480
Thank you very much and thank you,

1094
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:20,000
David, for being uh so considerate. Uh

1095
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,520
the last the next item rather is uh the

1096
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,480
bid opening for our electrical

1097
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400
transformers.

1098
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,000
» Thank you. Um so light and power

1099
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,319
department requested bids on electric

1100
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,079
transformers uh to both replenish our

1101
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:32,400
inventory and to stock up and get ready

1102
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,400
for specific projects in the future. Uh

1103
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,560
this year we requested bids on a total

1104
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,800
of 16 transformers varying at seven

1105
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,160
different sizes. Um bid documents were

1106
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,000
sent out to 17 potential um biders. Uh,

1107
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,240
out of those 17 suppliers that we sent

1108
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,920
those out to, we received six bids. Um,

1109
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:51,119
however, only five of those bids

1110
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,680
included proper bid security. Um, and

1111
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,839
then two of those five actually included

1112
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,560
bids on transformers that were on the

1113
00:41:55,839 --> 00:42:00,319
the acceptable uh manufacturers list.

1114
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,920
So, those two were the only two that we

1115
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:05,839
evaluated. Um, for the transformers, the

1116
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,680
evaluation process that we look at is is

1117
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:10,240
we look at the operating losses over the

1118
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,720
life cycle of the transformer. Um so on

1119
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:14,560
the bid tab you'll see the total base

1120
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,480
price which is the initial cost of the

1121
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,640
transformers up front and then you'll

1122
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,400
see the total evaluated cost which is

1123
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,960
the cost of the transformers through

1124
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,839
their entire life cycle. Um using this

1125
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,000
process we resco out of Morhead

1126
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:31,760
Minnesota uh was the lowest bid with a

1127
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:36,359
base price of $146,959

1128
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,359
and the evaluated price of $210,4520.

1129
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,720
Uh these transformers have an estimated

1130
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,060
delivery of 12 to 13 weeks which would

1131
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:45,119
put the delivery here in 2026, excuse

1132
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:47,200
[clears throat] me. Um this purchase was

1133
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:48,720
not fully budgeted for so a revision

1134
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,720
will be necessary to cover the cost of

1135
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:52,240
these. Um however we do have sufficient

1136
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:54,079
funds in the reserve account for the

1137
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:55,440
light and power department. Uh with that

1138
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,200
administration recommends awarding the

1139
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,160
bid to resco with an initial purchase

1140
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,400
price of $146,959

1141
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,400
and a total evaluated price of

1142
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,400
$210,4520.

1143
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,040
Thank you, Shane. Do any members of the

1144
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,280
public have any comments about this bid?

1145
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,119
» Just like explaining what's the the

1146
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,599
evaluated price. What's what's that

1147
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,240
mean?

1148
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,079
» So, so when a transformer is operating

1149
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:21,520
and the electricity is it's doing its

1150
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,359
job, there's going to be some losses,

1151
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,440
right? It's not 100% efficient. So when

1152
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:27,839
they supply their their their bids to

1153
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,160
us, they give us a couple numbers that

1154
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:31,839
we plug into an an equation that tells

1155
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,760
us this is how much electricity is going

1156
00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:35,440
to be lost through this thing's lifetime

1157
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,200
while it's operating out in the system.

1158
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,200
And so the more efficient, the cheaper

1159
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,440
it is over the next 30 years, right? And

1160
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,960
so we evaluate that when we're looking

1161
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,240
at these. And so we don't look at just

1162
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,760
what does it cost us up front. We look

1163
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,599
at what is this really going to cost us

1164
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,000
once it's out in the system for for 30

1165
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,560
years.

1166
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,960
» So you want to so we want to lower

1167
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,000
» Exactly

1168
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,520
» Outside revenue. Okay.

1169
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,440
» Yep. Thank you.

1170
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,200
» Yes, Jay.

1171
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,680
» So, this looks like about 25% different

1172
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:03,760
from the total base to that um evaluated

1173
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,440
cost. We don't have a 25% loss in energy

1174
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,960
at that point, do we?

1175
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,920
» No.

1176
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,200
You're getting pretty deep into the

1177
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,400
weeds when you start getting into that

1178
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,920
that that equation. Um and so, um I

1179
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,200
can't speak to the guts of it. I can

1180
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,720
just kind of tell you where I take the

1181
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,160
numbers. You know, that's electrical

1182
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,400
engineers kind of give us those numbers

1183
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,160
and we we we go with them. Um, but no,

1184
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,839
we do not get a 25% loss on our

1185
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,200
transformers.

1186
00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:27,599
» As I understand it, what that means is

1187
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,079
they expect say $65,000 worth of

1188
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,040
electricity is going to get lost in form

1189
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:33,119
of heat

1190
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,640
» Over the lifetime of these transformers.

1191
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,839
» Yeah, 30 plus years.

1192
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
» And uh what is the life of these

1193
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:37,599
transformers here?

1194
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,359
» Uh so most of them I think are around

1195
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,000
that 30-year mark. Kind of averaging

1196
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:41,920
right in there.

1197
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,480
» How many do we have? We're replacing

1198
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,200
» The system.

1199
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,280
» Yeah. I mean

1200
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,960
» Uh so Oh, you got to put me on the spot.

1201
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,040
I want to say that we have like 800

1202
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,560
transformers out in the system. Don't

1203
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,319
quote me on that. I will get that number

1204
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,400
» First year, but is this a normal thing?

1205
00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:55,280
150 grand a year for transform places

1206
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,079
every year.

1207
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,000
» Say that one more time.

1208
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:59,599
» Is this a normal thing then replacing?

1209
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,960
» Absolutely. Yep. Yep. So that's it's

1210
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,560
been a year or two since we've got this

1211
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,160
is a little bit larger larger bid

1212
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960
package, but yeah, every year we usually

1213
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,240
buy some.

1214
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,200
» How do you know which ones need to be

1215
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:10,000
replaced, Shane?

1216
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,319
» Uh so we have the our AMI system and our

1217
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,920
smart health map. um it actually can

1218
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:15,359
tell us loads and stuff. And so now

1219
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,119
everything's so smart, we can really

1220
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:19,119
kind of pull up a map and it can show us

1221
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,440
which transformers are overloaded, which

1222
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,960
ones are underloaded. Um if we have, you

1223
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,079
know, they're running all kinds of tests

1224
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,359
all the time to just look for

1225
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,040
efficiency. If there's anything that's

1226
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:28,720
out of whack, we can go in and look at

1227
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,760
it. And so over the last couple years

1228
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,359
since we got our AMI [clears throat]

1229
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,200
system up and going, um I think that's

1230
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:34,960
made life a lot easier on our electric

1231
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,720
department on really pinpointing those

1232
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,000
issues before they become a big issue to

1233
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:40,079
where we got outages and things like

1234
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,839
that. So older transformers have lower

1235
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,920
efficiency, we'll lose more electricity

1236
00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:44,400
and maybe overheat,

1237
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,800
» Right?

1238
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,800
» Okay. Y

1239
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,240
» John, and I just add, correct me if I'm

1240
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,359
wrong, Shane, this is also for growth,

1241
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,720
too.

1242
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:54,160
» Yeah, this is for potential growth. So

1243
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,760
like that blue stem is out there. This

1244
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,839
is transformers to build that. This is

1245
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,359
looking at different things like the the

1246
00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:00,800
Munger property out there is getting

1247
00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:02,480
that out there developed and having

1248
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,079
transformers out there. And then also

1249
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,839
just kind of restocking some of our

1250
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,760
supplies in case things do go bad. Some

1251
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:09,599
of these larger ones can have larger

1252
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,680
lead times sometimes like this one's 12

1253
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:14,560
to 13 weeks. We've seen lead times in

1254
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,400
the past that were years and so having

1255
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,760
them on stock is is important in case

1256
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,720
something goes down we can get it fixed

1257
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,400
right now instead of having to wait.

1258
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:24,000
» Very good. Yes. Gary

1259
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,880
» Shane, how many are we getting?

1260
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,880
» There's 16 of them.

1261
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,000
» Any other electricity guys here? Did you

1262
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,880
have a question? Mike,

1263
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,960
» I was glad to see the 12 to 13 weeks cuz

1264
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,880
since I was on been on the council

1265
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,040
starting in 2022,

1266
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,319
» It it's gone down from 2 years or more.

1267
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520
» Oh, yeah. I think I think the last time

1268
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:48,319
I was in front of you, we were at like

1269
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,319
84 weeks was the delivery day. So, it

1270
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:50,880
has gotten supplies have uh come back

1271
00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:55,480
around, but

1272
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,480
» Yes, that's I'm very glad to see that.

1273
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,520
» Any other questions for Shane regarding

1274
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,520
these transformers?

1275
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,640
I would entertain a motion to award the

1276
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,280
bid to Resco for $146,959.

1277
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,119
So move.

1278
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,839
» Is there a second?

1279
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,200
» Second.

1280
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:13,040
» All in favor of awarding this bid

1281
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,880
indicate by saying I.

1282
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,200
» Oppos? Nay.

1283
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,319
Bid is approved.

1284
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,000
» Thank you. Shane,

1285
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:23,680
you're leaving before the city manager's

1286
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:28,319
report. [laughter]

1287
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,800
» Okay. Very good. Over to you.

1288
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:34,079
I

1289
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,599
Thanks Shane for your support. Um just a

1290
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:37,599
couple of different items uh for mayor

1291
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:40,000
and council here. Uh couple the next

1292
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:41,760
meeting is on Tuesday September 8th. Uh

1293
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,839
with the way that August is structured

1294
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,000
in the Labor Day holiday on Monday,

1295
00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:48,319
September 7th. Uh city office is closed

1296
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,480
in Labor Day. Uh the next meeting is on

1297
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:51,760
Tuesday, September 8th. Before that

1298
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,760
meeting, our planning and zoning

1299
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,599
commission meets on Monday, August 31st

1300
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,119
at 5:30 5:30 p.m. They have um two basic

1301
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:01,760
items on their agenda. One is a

1302
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:03,599
conditional use permit for 426 East

1303
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,839
Cherry Street. Uh that's the former

1304
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:07,280
Steuart Oil property uh over there in

1305
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:08,880
East Cherry. And then they will be

1306
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,640
continuing uh their discussion on the

1307
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,400
ordinances related to data center. So

1308
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,599
those are the items uh that we know of

1309
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,160
right now for the planning zoning

1310
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,839
commission on Monday, August 31st. And

1311
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,880
then our human relations commission is

1312
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:22,559
set to meet at 5:15 p.m. on Thursday,

1313
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,200
September 3rd. That's in the Paul

1314
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:27,119
conference room here at city hall.

1315
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,440
A couple reminders on street closures.

1316
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:31,680
Uh this coming Friday is USD's movein

1317
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,400
day. So Rose Street from Coyote Village

1318
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:37,119
north to Dakota Dome. Uh that one closes

1319
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,920
at 5:00 a.m. and that lasts until 4 p.m.

1320
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:41,520
on Friday, August 21st. And then uh

1321
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,440
North Plum Street from East Cherry

1322
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,240
Street to Highway 50. that closure is

1323
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,839
from 6:00 am to 4 pm uh to help

1324
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:50,319
facilitate the traffic related to move

1325
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:51,839
into the north complex. So uh watch for

1326
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:54,400
some additional traffic in the community

1327
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:56,240
this coming Friday the 21st. Uh just a

1328
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,680
reminder the last two Thursdays on the

1329
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,680
plats are coming up. We didn't have it

1330
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,559
last week with the fair. Uh so August

1331
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,640
20th and 27th. Um the street closure is

1332
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,800
from 400 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. to allow for

1333
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,720
the setup and the tear down. And it is

1334
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,319
Main Street as it ab butts the plats

1335
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,960
east through the Prospect Street

1336
00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:15,040
intersection. uh Prospect Street south,

1337
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,960
excuse me, Prospect Street for one half

1338
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,800
block north of West Main and then Market

1339
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,760
Street as it abuts the plat. So those

1340
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,839
two uh events for the balance of this

1341
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,319
year coming up, we do have several open

1342
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:27,839
border commission seats. Um one I'll go

1343
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:30,240
through the list here, human relations

1344
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:33,280
commission. Uh that is a one-year term

1345
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:36,400
for our postsecondary uh student. Uh so

1346
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,079
that term uh began in May and would go

1347
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,160
until next May. We have not had any

1348
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:42,240
applicants for that. Uh but you do need

1349
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,040
to be a post-secary student um to fill

1350
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:47,440
that slot. Uh business improvement

1351
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,520
district number one um that is the

1352
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,839
business the board that works with the

1353
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,359
$2 per night preoccupied hotel fee. We

1354
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:55,599
do have a three-year term available in

1355
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:57,680
that board. That seat is for either an

1356
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,680
owner or manager of a lodging property

1357
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,200
in within the uh district here in the

1358
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,720
community. Uh that one's a little been a

1359
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,160
little bit tougher to fill. And then the

1360
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,400
Vermillion Housing Authority, they do

1361
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,240
have one uh 5-year term that remains

1362
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,640
available. Uh there are no requirements

1363
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:12,559
on that other than you do need to um

1364
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,960
live I believe just within Klay County.

1365
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:16,240
I think you can uh definitely within uh

1366
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,480
you know what I you have to live within

1367
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,079
the city to serve in that role. Um so we

1368
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,760
do have one 5-year term on the

1369
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:23,599
Vermillion Housing Authority available

1370
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,960
for any board or commission openings. Uh

1371
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,720
there's an expression of interest form

1372
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,400
that we ask applicants to fill out that

1373
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:30,160
goes to city council to help make that

1374
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,599
appointment. Um so those are available

1375
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,520
on the city's website. You get them here

1376
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:35,440
at city hall and dismit those to city

1377
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,280
hall for the city council to consider.

1378
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Then coming up in uh September and

1379
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,839
October, we were going to have regular

1380
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,920
seats on bid number one, the hotel one,

1381
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:45,680
bid number two, which is our downtown uh

1382
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,599
district, and then also the tree board.

1383
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,680
So, there'll be more opportunities to

1384
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,359
serve. And uh just a reminder, the

1385
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,960
mausoleiums at the Bluff Cemetery,

1386
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:54,559
they've been nominated for inclusion on

1387
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,720
the National Register of Historic

1388
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:58,240
Places. The State Historical Society

1389
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,480
Board of Trustees will be considering

1390
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:02,640
this nomination on Friday, September

1391
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,160
11th at their meeting in Sou Falls. If

1392
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,599
anybody has any comments, please submit

1393
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,440
those to the city through this Friday

1394
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,359
the 21st, so we can forward those on to

1395
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,440
the state. Uh the nomination is

1396
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:12,800
available through the city's website.

1397
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,319
And then finally, included in the city

1398
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,400
council packet was one raffle

1399
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:18,079
notification. Uh the Vermillion Rotary

1400
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,720
Club is selling their Monday Night

1401
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:23,280
Football uh books. Uh basically the

1402
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:24,640
final digits in the score of each team.

1403
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,240
I won't say anything about Vikings,

1404
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,559
Packers playing and what that might that

1405
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,319
score might be, but hypothetically. Um,

1406
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:32,960
whatever the last digit in the score of

1407
00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:34,480
that uh that any game on a Monday night,

1408
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,319
that's used to determine the winning

1409
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,720
book number for that week. The cost of

1410
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:42,000
the book is $25 for the season. The

1411
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:43,599
winner each week receives $50. Um, the

1412
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,040
money which doesn't go to the winners

1413
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:47,280
goes to Rotary to help with their

1414
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,240
charitable work in the community. That's

1415
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,079
all I have. Mayor,

1416
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,559
» Thank you. Any questions on any of those

1417
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:54,319
items for John?

1418
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,960
I did have one question. So, how do we

1419
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:58,800
find the uh grad student to be on the

1420
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,559
human relations commission? How do we

1421
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,040
find them?

1422
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:06,480
» Um those are posted or do we reach out

1423
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:09,040
to the grad school office or

1424
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,040
it's worked different ways um over the

1425
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,760
years. The commission was created in

1426
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,839
2018. Sometimes it has been maybe the

1427
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,640
student who's going off suggested to

1428
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:19,839
some friends of theirs to apply. Um, we

1429
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,839
can certainly reach out maybe to the

1430
00:52:19,839 --> 00:52:23,359
student government association and see

1431
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:24,880
if they might be able to help get the

1432
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:26,880
word out. Um, it's

1433
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,559
» I got the grad students come in and they

1434
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,400
don't they're not necessarily plugged

1435
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:32,880
in. Oh, sorry, Gary.

1436
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,720
» Uh, one of I have a suggestion. Uh, they

1437
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,640
teach human relations courses in the

1438
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:38,880
school of education. We could contact

1439
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,280
school of education, have them make a

1440
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,079
recommendation through their professors.

1441
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,341
» Thank you.

1442
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:45,839
» Yeah, that that makes sense.

1443
00:52:44,341 --> 00:52:48,559
[clears throat] Thank you. Just want to

1444
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:50,960
help out. All right. Any other items for

1445
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:53,760
the good of the order? If not, I would

1446
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:56,079
entertain a motion to adjurnn.

1447
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:59,359
» Second.

1448
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:03,760
» All in favor of adjourning indicate. All

1449
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:05,359
oppose. Nay. Sorry about that.

1450
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,359
Although we just found out we don't need

1451
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:08,359
a