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County Board of Commissioners meeting.

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Commissioner Quinn, would you lead us in

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the pledge of allegiance? My

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>> pleasure.

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To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» Next, we have Pastor Kevin Club of the

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Cape Carter Baptist Church will lead us

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in the invocation. Welcome, Pastor.

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>> Thank you.

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I've had the privilege of being a pastor

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here in Carter County for 32 years now.

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And anytime I find myself in a room

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filled with people, I'm tempted to do

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two things. Preach and take an offering.

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>> [laughter]

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>> uh

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>> we'll pass the plate.

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>> We'll split it.

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>> All right. [laughter] I don't think

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that's the way that works, but I

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appreciate the offer. I do. All right.

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Let me lead us in prayer here. Father,

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we uh come to you tonight to acknowledge

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that you are a God of great design and

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purpose and and intention and uh yours

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is a good design and you've been

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[snorts] gracious to us and we um uh so

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that's why we come to you. We

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acknowledge that we we do trust in you,

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Lord. Uh you know that and you know how

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we struggle uh from time to time to

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trust in you. So, uh, we would confess

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to you that we are faced with situations

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and, uh, circumstances in our community

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that,

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uh, call for great discernment and

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wisdom and insight and u uh, just um the

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ability to to see things as they really

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are. And uh so we we thank you that

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you're the source of wisdom. Uh we're

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grateful for the resources that you have

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so

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generously provided to us in uh in this

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part of our state. Uh we are grateful uh for the bounty you

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have you have given us and um for the

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privilege it is to be able to live in a

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community like this. And so we would ask

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uh tonight uh that Lord as you have

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raised up uh leaders in our community

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that you would uh give them great uh

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wisdom and discernment that they would uh see things clearly

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and that they would make decisions that

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would uh be good for our community and

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ultimately would bring great honor and

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glory to you. So um we give the evening

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to you and ask your blessings on it in

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Jesus name I pray. Amen.

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>> Amen.

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>> Thank you pastor.

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>> Thank you.

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>> In accordance with the state government

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ethics act, it is the duty of every

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board member to avoid both conflicts of

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interest and the appearance of conflict.

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Does any board member have any known

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conflict of interest or the appearance

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of conflict with respect to any matter

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coming before the board this evening? If

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so, please identify the conflict and

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refrain from any undue particular

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participation in particular matter

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involved.

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We're all good. I'd like to remind

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everybody to silence our cell phones and

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devices.

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>> Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to

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adopt the agenda for this evening.

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>> All right. Motion by Vice Chairman

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Mansfield. Is there a second? Seconded

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by Commissioner Wal. All in favor? All

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right. Is there a motion on the consent

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agenda? Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion on the consent agenda to

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uh table items 9 and 10

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uh regarding jail version recovery

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services with uh two entities

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um for the reason of give us a month or

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more time to evaluate a current contract

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that we have with another entity

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and to evaluate the necessity of writing

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two more contracts uh with with other

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[cough and clears throat] other

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that's item nine and 10.

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Commissioner uh Shin's motion?

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>> Seconded by Commissioner Clark. All in

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favor of taking item nine and 10 off the

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consent agenda, raise your hand.

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Okay, we're gonna leave those items on

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there. Is there a motion to approve the

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consent agenda?

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>> Chairman, if I may, if I may interrupt,

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I'm sorry. The motion on the floor to

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table the item for a future meeting has

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failed, but any one commissioner can

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take an item off the consent agenda and

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make it eligible for consideration and

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discussion in the regular agenda.

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>> So, I I would say loop back around and

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now Commissioner Shen, if he pleases,

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can make a motion to remove it from the

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consent agenda and to include it as an

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action item for this evening. if if

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you'll excuse the interruption on that.

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» Would you I'll I'll move to take them

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off of that and have a discussion in our

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[clears throat] regular agenda.

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>> And we'd like to put that down around

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right before the manager's report. Maybe

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add 9A.

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>> I'm good with that.

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>> All right. We're going to move item nine

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and 10.

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remind me of that.

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>> Right before the manager's report.

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>> All right. So, is that an amended uh

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consent agenda or is that

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>> Is there a motion to approve the amended

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consent agenda?

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>> Motion by Commissioner Waldrip, seconded

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>> Commissioner Shen. All in favor.

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>> All right.

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Now, we have public comment.

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that had have been a vote right there, I

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abstained. So I didn't vote.

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affirmative.

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>> Yes, it does.

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>> So it would have made it three to three.

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and it would have stayed on the consent

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agenda because the motion was to remove

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it and it didn't pass. It would have

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been a tie and we don't have anyone to

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break the tie tonight because we don't

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>> So tie would have kept it on there,

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>> All right. And for the record,

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Commissioner Moore is under weather and

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he has an excused absence tonight. All

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right. Next, we have public comment. Mr.

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Derwood Hudson is first on the list, and

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you'd like to speak about a road name

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change. We're going to have a separate

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public hearing on that.

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>> So, if you hold tight, we'll get you on

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the next. Thank you.

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>> The next one is Mr. James Jones.

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If you will approach the podium and give

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your name and address for the record and

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you have three minutes.

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Appreciate that.

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All right. Uh I'm part of a newly

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elected board that has been constructed

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in the Murman committee and community

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and we're looking to establish a a

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public park in the mun in the community.

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something totally new, something that

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exciting. The board members are excited

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about it. We've already gone throughout

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the community. We've taken and we've got

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names all the way up to Garb Bacon. And

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so we continue to get other names of

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individuals that are excited about a

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park coming in in Murman. And we're all

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starting the process of allocating

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property. So hopefully the county and

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merman we can come together with this

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project and you know and really see the

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need for not only for the youth that are

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spread it out for future grandkids that

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are coming. A lot of people moving in

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that's got kids, grandkids that vacation

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there and so uh there's a great need for

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it as well. We're excited about it

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because it's something new. It helps to

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develop also the community. It is

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property that's that we are looking to

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obtain that's going to be on the silver

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dollar road. you know, over the years

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there's been, you know, all kind of bad

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news or somewhat not favorable news, but

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we're here to turn that around because

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there's so many great people that live

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in Murman and as well as off the Silver

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Dollar Road. And so we're looking for a

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partnership, you know, with the with the

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county far as to, you know, to get on

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board with this right here and uh and as

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well as help us out because we're new at

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this here, but we already started doing

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the leg work far as establishing an

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account, 501c, possibly grants, talking

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to anybody that we can possibly talk to.

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And so we're excited and we're going to

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go further. You know, as long as it

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takes, we're going to be like a thorn in

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your side about this situation. Uh uh uh

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I mean, I got a lot of great friends

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that are here in the room. A lot of you

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probably already know me as well. I got

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a lot of free time now since I'm

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retired. And so, you know, [laughter]

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hope hopefully, you know, you know, we

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can keep this thing just on a friendship

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and keep this thing just rolling. I, you

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know, I I thank all the commissioners. I

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thank all all the board over there. I

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mean, I worked in the courthouse many of

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years and I was a police officer here in

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Bowford as well. And so, uh, they elect

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me cuz I don't mind talking. But anyway,

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I don't want to go over the 3 minutes,

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but we're looking forward with the

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getting on board with the county. Uh

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we're excited about someone donating

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property. So hopefully in that process,

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donating property, then we can in turn,

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hey, turn that property over to the

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county as a partnership and further this

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thing is on uh and so we're excited

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about being boost on the ground right

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now, but we're going to be further more

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excited about completing this project

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and not only completing this project,

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but future projects that's going that's

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going to take place out in that part of

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the county. So I guess that's my three

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>> But anyway, I want to give you guys

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>> Well, stick around because you come to

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the right meeting because the parks and

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recck master plan is going to be talked

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about here tonight. So you're you come

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to the right meeting.

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>> Yeah, I've already met him. So

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we're going to be teaming up.

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> There's Chuck Leonard in the background.

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Go ahead and talk get him on board, will

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you, too? [laughter]

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So thank you, Mr. Jones.

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>> Next, we have Mr. Ronnie Watson.

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» Well, I looked at the agenda. Thank God

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I ain't got to stay for all of that.

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[laughter]

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But my name's Ronnie Watson. I'm from

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Emerald, North Carolina. And I'm coming

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to speak to you. And I want to thank

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y'all for the support that I've heard

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that you are supporting the tennis

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courts at Croatin, East Carter, and West

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Carter. I have coach Shehan here

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tonight, but he can verify what I'm

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going to say. You know, the courts, they

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might not be important to y'all, but you

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know, sports are very important to our

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kids. You know, a lot of them, they play

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tennis, they play basketball, football,

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baseball, and they go on to college

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maybe and play the sports. But, you

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know,

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I I know the school bond referendum was

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passed what, three or four, five years

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ago, and there was money in there for

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tennis courts. And I look at the tennis

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courts, and I was a coach there 20 years

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ago, and they're this they're worse. I

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mean, nothing has been done to them. And

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the thing, the reason I'm saying this,

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Jim's uh the guys, the boys team and the

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girls team, they have to go to Fort

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Benjamin to play home matches.

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And God forbid that they going down Nine

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Mile Road and somebody gets killed. And

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I hate I maybe hate to say that, but

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it's the truth. But if this happens,

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there'll be some lawyers involved and

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they going to bring the school in it as

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well. But we hope that uh we thank you

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for what you're doing. We hope that the

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schools will go ahead. They've got the

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money and we need to build. You know,

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I've been building buildings and stuff

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all my life. And if you don't maintain

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them, I mean, it's like the gym, the

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football field or the baseball field you

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and the track which hadn't been

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maintained.

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We need and I go to other schools in the area in other counties and I see

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they've got these facilities but they're

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maintaining what what they got. We're

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one of the wealthiest counties in North Carolina. And why we can't do

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it, you know, it just beyond me, but I

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pray to God that you do it. And coach

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Shehan, have you can you verify anything

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I'm saying?

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[clears throat]

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>> We are indeed of course. We have a an

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outstanding program and there's no

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telling how how well program could take

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off if we had a facility that was equal

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to what the kids are putting out.

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>> Well, I thank you and that's that's my

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three minutes. We appreciate it.

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>> Thank you, Mr. W.

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>> Thank you, sir.

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>> Next, we have Mr. Chuck Linder.

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123 Center Drive, Atlantic

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Beach. I'd like to commend these two

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young gentlemen that just came up here

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and spoke because they're advocating

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again for the youth of our county and

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that's why I'm here. As you know, we're

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in desperate need of more youth athletic

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fields. I'm very curious to see what's

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in this master plan.

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As you know, we we Moria City Little

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League has been bringing the Woodbat

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tournament to Carter County and other

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tournaments for the last 15 years. We

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recognized that the county alone could

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not maintain their facilities. So, we

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went out, we did tournaments, we

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fundraised, and we made close to half a

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million dollars improvements at Swinson

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Park. So, I would encourage all

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organizations to become interested in

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bringing outside tournaments,

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activities. It's been proven, as Mr.

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Watson said other counties are able to

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make money off of these facilities that

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they build.

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In last February, March, the young lady

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stood here and and talked about the

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Burke complex in Wilson.

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Uh grossed about 44 million that year.

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Expenses were 40. So they had a a small

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profit of $4 million, which is not a bad

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little uh investment. But I I think what

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we need to think about more so than the

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finances that it's going to cost to

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maintain facilities is our youth and the

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investment that we need to make in our

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youth more so than other facilities. I'd

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rather see the investment go to our

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youth than more jail space. Not that I'm

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against it, but if we can get our youth

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at an early age to become good citizens,

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we don't need to keep building jails

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every 10, 15, 20 years. That's what I'm

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interested in. We We have grandchildren

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coming up and I would love to see them

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be able to stay in this county with

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something to do, but right now we're maxed out. We with Moyes City just

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approved 310

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new units in Moyes City. Our Lily

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program is going to we're not going to

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have anywhere to go next year. It's it's

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we need more youth facilities. I thank

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you gentlemen for coming tonight.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Linder.

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>> Three minutes is not enough.

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» But them three minutes add up though.

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[laughter]

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>> Next we have Miss Betty Williams.

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[snorts]

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Miss Betty Williams, is she out there?

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>> Okay,

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>> I'm here with James.

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>> All right, you're keeping James

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straight. You got your hands full.

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[laughter]

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Mr. Charlie Collins.

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My name is Charlie Collins. I'm from Moa

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City, North Carolina. And I'm here to

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represent Meman for Me Park. Uh like

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James had integrated earlier. Uh we got

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our youth is coming up and uh they need

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somewhere to go some some activities

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they can come and play nice playground

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where they can play in and uh and we can

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do this if we work together. And I and I

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believe in our heart that it's going to

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work. and and if the county

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commissioners and and the me bow and moy

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city and and our community working

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together, we can make this happen.

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>> Thank you.

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M. Collins.

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>> Thank you, sir.

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Joshua Miller.

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You will state your name and address for

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the record, please.

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>> Joshua Miller from Peliter, North

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Carolina.

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I'm here on um I thought I never thought

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I'd be here on a flock problem. [snorts]

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The Fourth Amendment exists for a

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reason. And Carpenter v. United States

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Supreme Court recognized something

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fundamental. The government cannot

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simply obtain a detailed record of a

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person's movement over an extended

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period of time without complying with a

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fourth amendment requirement. [snorts]

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Yet, this county has chosen to put a

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powerful surveillance system on the

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roads, one that captures our license

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plate records. They're updating them and

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getting new information every day. And

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when the citizens object, we're told,

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well, if you have nothing to hide, you

447
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have nothing to fear. And that's not the

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standard of a free society. We don't owe

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this county an explanation where we

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drive. We don't owe our government

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justification on our lawful movements.

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Benjamin Franklin, he warned us

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precisely ex this exact situation. Those

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who would give up essential liberty to

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purchase little temporary safety deserve

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neither liberty nor safety.

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Security purchased at the expense of

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constitutional rights is not true

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security. It's the surrender of our

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liberty. And I'm shocked you guys are

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doing it in this county right now. And

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that's why I'm here is because I have

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kids. So I have an obligation to be here

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and make sure they don't grow up in a

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surveillance state.

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Terminate the flock contract, dismantle

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the warrant warrantless surveillance

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apparatus, and bring this county

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practices back in compliance with the

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constitution and the principles that you

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all swore the oath to uphold. I swore

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that same oath many times.

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You can see I'm ticked off.

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And the American Revolution,

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it wasn't fought by every American. It

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was only fought by about 10 to 15% of

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the population. So out of every hundred,

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10 guys. And now sorry, that's male and

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female.

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Fortunately for you, I'm one of those 10

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that still believe in liberty.

482
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>> That's just you got time.

483
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>> Okay. And I'm not talking about a

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historical statistic. I'm talking about

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the kind of citizen who believes that

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liberty is worth standing up for. who's

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not going to quietly surrender because

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the government says that it's for my own

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safety. I can keep my kids safe. I don't

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need the government's help. Protect our

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rights or we'll find people that will.

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That's all I got to say.

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>> Thank you,

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>> Mr. Mr. Chairman. I'd like to break

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protocol. Mr. Mo, if you wait just one

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second. So,

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>> where did you get your research on this?

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>> I I go on flocks. You can go on

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dflock.org and see where every camera is

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and I went and verified looked and saw

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the cameras.

502
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>> They're not county cameras.

503
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>> We don't have any cameras.

504
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>> We don't have We don't We don't have a

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cop. They can point them at the highway.

506
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>> We don't have I I don't know. But

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they're not count. They're not

508
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>> You're commissioner. You should know

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that.

510
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>> No. No sir.

511
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>> There is not a contract with the county

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with flock.

513
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>> So why do we have them pointing at our

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roadways right now tracking our

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movements? That doesn't concern you.

516
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>> It's probably in a municipality or

517
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something. No, I'm not saying it doesn't

518
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concern me. I'm just saying the basis of

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your conversation tonight, your concerns

520
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are valid and most of us agree with you.

521
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But the county does not have a contract

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with them and we don't have any cameras

523
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that we've put up. So all these cameras

524
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pointing right now on the highways

525
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>> getting all the license plates getting

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on Bluetooth tracking.

527
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>> They're not they're not they're not in

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they're not with Carter County.

529
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,400
>> They may be more at city. They may be

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Atlantic Beach. I can't speak to that.

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>> And maybe we are actually a board of

532
00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,080
Carter County Commissioners not of the

533
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municipalities.

534
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>> Okay. So

535
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>> So you may want to speak to some

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municipal meetings.

537
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,440
>> Yeah.

538
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>> We don't have a contract with Flock. All

539
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right. For the record. Let's move on.

540
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Thank you for coming. Next we have Brian

541
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,927
Nicolo.

542
00:25:20,927 --> 00:25:24,789
>> [clears throat]

543
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,200
» Good evening. I'm Brian Niclo, 1402

544
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,159
Salter Path Road. Um, it's u we

545
00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:32,400
appreciate what you all do and sovereign

546
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,159
showing up is important because you all

547
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:35,600
don't know what to address if we don't

548
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,840
let you know. I'm here to make just a

549
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,520
general comment. Um, so it's um about

550
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,679
Noah Webster's dictionary 1828. American

551
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:47,440
uh dictionary of the English language

552
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,120
was produced during the years when

553
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,200
America home church and schools were

554
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,679
established upon biblical and patriotic

555
00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:55,600
bases. Webster made important

556
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320
contributions to an American educational

557
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,480
system which kept the nation upon

558
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Christian constitutional course for many

559
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,799
years. A federal catechism was

560
00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:08,000
introduced into curriculum in 1794. He

561
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,520
gave a short explanation of the

562
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,200
principles of the American

563
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760
constitutional form of government and

564
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,840
defined America as a representative

565
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,640
republic. Students learn distinct

566
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,039
distinctly why a federal representative

567
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,919
republic is a better form of government.

568
00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:26,240
Shortly after schools became organized

569
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,240
under the state systems, the

570
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,279
substitution of democracy for republic

571
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:34,080
was made, which was incorrect. Upon

572
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Horus man, who is also known as the

573
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
father of American education, rest the

574
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,720
blame for removing from the curriculum

575
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,120
the study of an American philosophy of

576
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,039
government which included the concepts

577
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,919
of our constitution. Horus man and his

578
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:49,919
contemporaries made America's early

579
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:52,720
education a ward of the state. Today,

580
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,640
the necessity for restoring the clarity

581
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,279
and identity of constitutional meanings

582
00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:59,760
is obvious if we are to make substantial

583
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320
progress in rebuilding the foundation

584
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,120
upon which this nation was established.

585
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,960
The reason I'm here telling you about an

586
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,480
old 1828 Webster's dictionary is to make

587
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,799
you aware of the globalist effort to

588
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:16,000
omit, substitute, and redefine the

589
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,720
meanings of words and phrases. For the

590
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,880
globalists, it's easier to change the

591
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960
meaning of words and phrases than it is

592
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,400
to enact new legislation and enact

593
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,559
pertinent laws.

594
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,640
We experienced an onslaught of changes

595
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,480
the meaning of words and phrases during

596
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,559
the following the stone election of

597
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,400
2020. Remember they changed the word

598
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,279
vaccine the def definition thereof. They

599
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,360
changed the definition of recession,

600
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,240
gender, gain of function. However,

601
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,640
looking forward with the advent of AI,

602
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,640
artificial intelligence, that is, there

603
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,960
is a massive effort by some AI companies

604
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,240
to scan and then destroy old books. Once

605
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,000
the old books are destroyed, it will

606
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,320
only take a couple generations to

607
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,919
convince people with revised

608
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,399
information. So, what I want you to do

609
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:05,600
is save old books, register to vote, get

610
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,200
out and vote because we have midterms

611
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,520
coming up. Don't let 15% of the

612
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,360
electorate choose your elected

613
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,320
officials. And with that, I thank you

614
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,600
for your time.

615
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,279
>> Thank you, Mr. Nicolo. Is there anyone

616
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,559
else would like to speak tonight?

617
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,590
>> All right.

618
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,559
Next, we have a

619
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:25,039
>> sir.

620
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,720
>> Yes, ma'am. If you will approach the

621
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,080
podium and give your name and address

622
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,880
for the record.

623
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Theresa Morton

624
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,440
um 3815 3813 semicircle in Mort City,

625
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,520
North Carolina.

626
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,080
I would like to speak on the mass

627
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,679
surveillance.

628
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:47,360
I support the protection act against

629
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,520
mass surveillance.

630
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,919
Um my rights are important, my liberty

631
00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:55,360
is important, my freedom's important.

632
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880
And

633
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,520
I think that sums it up.

634
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,630
>> Thank you. Thank you.

635
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,640
Next, we have a public hearing for a

636
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,799
road name change

637
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,120
from a portion of White Oak Street to

638
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:18,710
Circle Drive. Miss Moren Dory.

639
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,880
» Good evening.

640
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,710
[laughter]

641
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,520
» Uh, okay. So, we've uh received a

642
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,840
request for um changing a portion of a

643
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,880
street in Cedar Point

644
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,399
um from White Oak Street to Circle

645
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:40,480
Drive. It's a portion of White Oak

646
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Street to Circle Drive. Um so, a little

647
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,279
bit of background, if you would flip the

648
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,200
slide so we can see the map. Um thank

649
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,880
you. The um

650
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,039
issue is

651
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,960
when this several subdivisions were

652
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,600
developed, White Oak Street, which goes

653
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480
from Highway 78 and hooks down to Hidden

654
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,039
Bay,

655
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:06,080
>> sorry,

656
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,600
>> 58.

657
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,520
>> Highway 58, right?

658
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,480
>> Um was supposed to continue um to have

659
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,840
serve as a connection between

660
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,200
subdivisions. Well, there actually is a

661
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,880
portion of White Oak Street that is

662
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,039
impassible. It was never um constructed

663
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:28,960
as planned. So, essentially, we've got a

664
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,120
White Oak Street segment coming off 58

665
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,960
and a White Oak Street segment coming

666
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,240
off of Hidden Bay, and it causes routing

667
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,960
and emergency services and and mail

668
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,240
delivery issues because of that gap in

669
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,760
the street. Um, so the proposal is to um

670
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,240
continue Circle Drive down to Hidden Bay

671
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Drive and cut White Oak Street. So it

672
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,480
ends um before Circle Drive. And we have

673
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,559
received um over 51% of

674
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,679
um approval from the affected owners

675
00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:09,120
that are highlighted in red. And um we

676
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,840
actually [clears throat] received

677
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880
another um petition for support the

678
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360
other day. So almost all of the owners

679
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,320
have signed to agree to this change and

680
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,279
if if you all would approve

681
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,159
um we would update the 911 system to

682
00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:29,039
reflect and hopefully fix this issue for

683
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,200
that's been there for many years.

684
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,279
>> Okay. And here's a picture just showing

685
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,640
that it's path. It's kind of a pathway,

686
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,159
not even passable by emergency services,

687
00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:46,720
vehicle or mail delivery. Um, and eight

688
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,310
owners now have signed the petition.

689
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,360
» Okay.

690
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,399
>> I'm sorry.

691
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:55,679
>> And nine were affected, right?

692
00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:57,440
>> Nine were affected and eight.

693
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,720
>> Right. And we've not received any u any

694
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,399
note um that uh

695
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:08,240
dis disapproves of the change.

696
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,240
>> Okay. Thank you, Moren. We need to go in

697
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,279
a public hearing.

698
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:12,960
>> Make a motion to go into public hearing.

699
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,039
>> Motion by Vice Chairman Mansfield,

700
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:16,960
seconded by Commissioner Clark. All in

701
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,320
favor? We are now in public hearing. Uh

702
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,840
if anyone like to speak on this matter,

703
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:28,070
Mr. Hudson, would you like to go first?

704
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640
Hi, I'm Derwood Hudson. I live on White

705
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,720
Oak Street. Thank Thank you

706
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,640
commissioners for listening. Thank you,

707
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Moren, for a hard job. Marian, I um I've

708
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,200
delivered mail for 30 years, so I know

709
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,840
changing dress is a bit of a pain, but

710
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,919
it it's not that big of a struggle, but

711
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:49,279
I live here.

712
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:55,360
My wife has a her dad lives here, so we we've been here. She's been She's had

713
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,039
her place for 40 years. I've been here

714
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,360
for nine. I've seen I've seen people

715
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,760
with GPS. It's horrible because if you

716
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,760
get the GPS and you're coming from 58,

717
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,039
it's going to take you here and it's

718
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,919
going to take you here. And they've just

719
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:12,720
This start here has just been put there.

720
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,799
I mean, it was like where the creek used

721
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,279
to be and it's not anymore. I've seen

722
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,679
ambulances get caught and and go there.

723
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:21,440
Most of the firemen do not because

724
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,360
they've they've been there. they're on

725
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,039
this side of 58 and it's going to turn

726
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,559
them on to hidden bay. So, we understand

727
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,480
it's kind of a pain, but we really

728
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,000
appreciate if you guys could help us

729
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000
out. Thank you so much.

730
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,080
>> Thank you, Mr. Hudson. Is there anyone

731
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,630
else would like to speak?

732
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Is there a motion to go out of public

733
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,120
hearing?

734
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,840
>> So, move.

735
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,840
>> Motion by Commissioner Wald, seconded by

736
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,919
Commissioner Quinn. We are now out of

737
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:49,919
public hearing.

738
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,960
>> Mr. Mr. Chairman, in an effort to uh

739
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,559
puff for public safety, I'd make a

740
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,159
motion to approve the request of the

741
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:58,320
rename the affected portion of White Oak

742
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,480
Street to Circle Drive. All right.

743
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,399
Motion by Vice Chairman Mansfield. Is

744
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:04,159
there a second? Seconded by Commissioner

745
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:06,720
Walder. All in favor?

746
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,320
All right, that passes.

747
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,879
Thank you all. Next, we have a public

748
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,280
hearing for a road name change from

749
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,800
Morris Lane to Sea Turtle Bay.

750
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,119
Thank you, Moren. take it away.

751
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,440
>> You're welcome. Uh, so this is a

752
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,240
previous request that was tabled last um

753
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,320
meeting. Just bringing it back. There's

754
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,560
no um changes to the request.

755
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,960
It's in Harker's Island. Morris Lane

756
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,800
currently um which

757
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,079
if we can see the map um

758
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:45,760
Morris Lane is s currently only serving

759
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,359
two properties and the applicant um owns

760
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:52,320
these two properties and they wish to

761
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,599
change Morris Lane to Sea Turtle Bay. Um

762
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,960
the road actually um does cross Harker

763
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,359
Island Electric, a property owned by

764
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:04,720
Harker Island Electric. Um,

765
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:08,800
uh, I did manage to find an official,

766
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,000
um, subdivision plat that showed

767
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,119
this driveway to be labeled Morris Lane.

768
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,400
And there was a, um,

769
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,560
a maintenance agreement that the owners

770
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,240
um,

771
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,200
submitted for um,

772
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,040
mortgage approval um, to maintain Morris

773
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,320
Lane. Um, and

774
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,800
that's all the new information I have. I

775
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,200
tried to present the applicant with some

776
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,920
history of the Morrises down east. Um,

777
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,760
and they still would like to change the

778
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,160
name. So,

779
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,760
>> okay. Is there a motion to go in a

780
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,480
public hearing?

781
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,119
>> So, moved.

782
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:52,720
>> Motion by Vice Chairman Mansfield.

783
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:53,119
>> Second.

784
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,280
>> Seconded by Commissioner Quinn. We are

785
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,200
now in a public hearing. Is there anyone

786
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,480
here that would like to speak on this

787
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,320
matter?

788
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,119
All right. All right, while I'll take

789
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,160
the floor, I'm against this. Uh the

790
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,760
Morrises that lived on that road was

791
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,800
Lori Morris, his wife Brenda Morris, and

792
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,240
his daughter Laura Morris. And uh you

793
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,720
see these old guys walking down the

794
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:18,560
street with a Vietnam hat on or a uh

795
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640
army hat or whatever. And then you see

796
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,119
on the internet where it shows uh what

797
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:26,000
that guy looked like 30, 40, 50 years

798
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,079
ago when he's in his tiger stripe

799
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,960
camouflage outfit holding his M16. He

800
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,440
was much more badass dude looking back

801
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,359
then than he is walking down Front

802
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,320
Street here in Buffer and uh or Atlantic

803
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,240
or Harker's Island or wherever. So

804
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,160
that's the kind of guy Mr. Lori was in

805
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,880
the Army or the Army Corps of Engineers.

806
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200
His wife, Miss Brenda, she was like a

807
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,760
home health nurse. Uh but that was

808
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,280
before you had home health. So they said

809
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,720
the old people called it she set with

810
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:53,520
people

811
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,680
>> and her daughter Laura, she worked it

812
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,720
out of crossroads and uh made those big

813
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,720
cheese biscuits that everybody likes. If

814
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:01,920
you hadn't had one of them, you're

815
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,079
missing out. But so it might be Morris

816
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,400
Street today. Next week it might be

817
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Willis Street or you go over to Newport

818
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,079
and want to erase the Quins or the

819
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,800
Garners or Mansfield Parkway over to

820
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,760
Morehead. Now where does it stop? So,

821
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,640
I'm for hanging with the badass guy back

822
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,359
any years ago when I was in the army and

823
00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:25,680
not erasing a part of Downy's history or

824
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920
any other part of the history. And I'm

825
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,160
for sticking to uh Morris Lane and I'm

826
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,720
not for the sea turtles l not for Sea

827
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,440
Turtle Bay. So, that's Chris's opinion

828
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,240
and I appreciate my fellow commissioner

829
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,200
support me on that.

830
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,640
>> Mr. Chairman, motion to go out of public

831
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,359
hearing.

832
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:45,119
>> Motion by Vice Chairman Mansfield. Is

833
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:46,000
there a second?

834
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,839
>> Second. Seconded by Commissioner Clark.

835
00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:50,320
All in favor? We're now at a public

836
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,240
hearing.

837
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,839
Is there a motion on the floor?

838
00:37:55,839 --> 00:37:57,440
I'll make a motion that we denied a

839
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,960
request.

840
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,720
>> Second.

841
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,560
>> Seconded by Commissioner Quinn. All in

842
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,560
favor?

843
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,839
All right. Next item.

844
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:08,640
>> Thank you.

845
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,079
Moren. You've been with the

846
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,440
county a long time and you do an

847
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,480
excellent job for us.

848
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,240
>> Thank you very much. Appreciate your

849
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,119
help

850
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,079
>> with Mr. Derwood.

851
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,160
>> Next, we have the presentation and

852
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,920
consideration of adoption of the

853
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,160
comprehensive parks and recreation

854
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960
master plan for 2027

855
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,359
all the way to 2042.

856
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:31,200
Matt Renal, take it away, Matt.

857
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,720
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the

858
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,400
board. I still have a lot of years ahead

859
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560
of me, so we built a 15-year plan.

860
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,280
>> All right.

861
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,119
>> So, last year, the county contracted the

862
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,280
McGill Associates to assist with the

863
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,720
updating of our parts and rec master

864
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,040
plan. The primary objectives were to

865
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,359
assess the existing parks and programs,

866
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,200
gather input from the community, and

867
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,040
develop that amazing 15-year action

868
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,560
plan. There was a lot of community

869
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,560
engagement, which uh my partner here

870
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
next to me will get into. Um but this

871
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,000
master plan is to be used as a living

872
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,079
document to help guide future program

873
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,079
and financial decisions. It is also

874
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,320
necessary to have this plan adopted by

875
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,240
the board so that when we apply for

876
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,000
grants such as part and others that we

877
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,480
have and it's up to date on it. uh to

878
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,320
introduce Nate uh with McGill

879
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,480
Associates. He's been the project lead.

880
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,400
He has over 20 years experience working

881
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,160
in parks and wreck at the local, state,

882
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,920
and federal level in addition to a

883
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,359
master's degree in parks and wreck from

884
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,760
UNCC Greensboro. And he was the program

885
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000
manager or project manager, sorry, on

886
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,400
North Carolina's statewide outdoor wreck

887
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,400
plan. So, with that, I'll turn the next

888
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,359
portion over to Nate. And there's there

889
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:34,480
we go.

890
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,920
>> Good evening, commissioners. How are we

891
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,079
all? So, it's encouraging to hear that

892
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:39,760
you had members of the public that come

893
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,079
out and talk about how important parks

894
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:43,920
and recreation is for the county. Um,

895
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,160
it's encouraging because uh you as the

896
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680
leaders in the community saw that in

897
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,240
advance and took steps to do this plan.

898
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,720
Um, the document itself is over 100

899
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,480
pages long. I don't think anybody wants

900
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,400
me to go through all 100 pages tonight.

901
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,240
Um, I am going to go and hit the high

902
00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,599
points. You're welcome to stop me at any

903
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:00,960
point in time if you'd like. And Nate,

904
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,119
just to let everybody know, this parks

905
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,119
and recrecks, the plan that he's talking

906
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,440
about is in the agenda package for

907
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,320
tonight,

908
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,920
>> so you can see it as well.

909
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,960
>> That's right. Yep. Um, so, uh, as I

910
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,160
said, commissioners, you're welcome to

911
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,440
stop me as we're going through this. I

912
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,800
am going to hit the high points. Um, all

913
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,800
right. So, we're going to start with,

914
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,640
um, what is one of the most critical

915
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,200
pieces of the comprehensive plan. Um,

916
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,119
that being the public input. And just to

917
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:28,320
let you know on the high notes, what

918
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,640
we've gone through to include to to

919
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,160
understand what the public wants is a

920
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,440
statistically valid survey that's been done to academic standards. We

921
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,200
actually partnered with a firm that does

922
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,800
these all across the country. So it was

923
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,640
done at the highest level possible. We

924
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,040
also offered an open survey um that was

925
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,280
not only done and and encouraged

926
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,800
community members to participate, but it

927
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,720
was also broken up in a way so that we

928
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,880
can understand, you know, what the area

929
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,599
residents around um Morehead or Marman

930
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,359
or whatever part of the county what they

931
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:57,040
were interested in. we can see kind of

932
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,440
in greater detail what they'd like. Um

933
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,119
we also had public input meetings that

934
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:02,480
were spread around the county. We had

935
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,640
staff um staff meetings and focus group

936
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,160
meetings. Now what we're going to do is

937
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,599
whenever we go through the actual

938
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,520
recommendation piece, it's more or less

939
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,760
a conglomeration of what that is. I'm

940
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,880
not going to go through each one of

941
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,319
those in great depth. Um all right. So

942
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:18,400
the other thing that we did was that we

943
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,000
compared your park system against the

944
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,920
National Recreation Parks Association

945
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,640
metrics. This is a best practice and

946
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200
what it does is it compares your system

947
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,640
in particular what we're talking about

948
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,560
is uh parks and recreation facilities

949
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,720
that the county itself owns against

950
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,880
comparably sized communities ac around

951
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,280
the county I'm sorry around the country.

952
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,800
Um what we have up on the screen it may

953
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,079
be a little bit hard to see but what I

954
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,720
want you to pay attention to is um first

955
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,720
up before we get into this parks and

956
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,319
recreation metrics and benchmarking is

957
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:51,520
not standards. All right. So, what we

958
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,680
see up on the screen is um if it is in

959
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,040
red, it's below uh benchmark. If it's in

960
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,880
green, it's within benchmark. If it's in

961
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,960
blue, it's above benchmark. The reason

962
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,400
why I brought up standards is it's

963
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,599
important to understand that if you're

964
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:05,599
below benchmark in a certain area, it

965
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,119
doesn't mean that you're failing. What

966
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,520
it is actually doing is describing what

967
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,599
the community has and then we'll compare

968
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:13,920
that to what the actual residents want.

969
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,440
So, as you'll see here, there's several

970
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,800
areas where you're actually above

971
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,480
benchmark

972
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,160
and and a lot of those are athletic

973
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,640
fields related. That doesn't mean that

974
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,079
you don't need more of that. That just

975
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:25,200
means that that's how your current

976
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,160
system is stacked up. Right now, your parks and recreation system is more

977
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,800
leaning towards a more active recreation

978
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,960
style system.

979
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,400
All right. So, some of the other things

980
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,839
that we took into account are your

981
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:39,920
program related data. And as I

982
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,640
mentioned, um, just because you have

983
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640
more athletic fields doesn't mean that

984
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,400
you have too many. What we have up on

985
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,560
the screen here is a review of some of

986
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,119
your athletic programs. And, and what I

987
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:52,800
want you to see is the trends that are

988
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,640
going on. So, your baseball programs are

989
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,880
continuing to grow. Your soccer programs

990
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,240
are continuing to grow. And then the one

991
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,720
that's on the biggest area down there is

992
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,640
total travel ball participation that's

993
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,760
going on. And this is a trend that's not

994
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,200
only happening just in Carter County,

995
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,880
but it's happening all around the count

996
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,839
around the country is more and more um

997
00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:14,160
athletics is being not only used to

998
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,920
encourage local participation, but more

999
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,240
and more competit it's becoming um

1000
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,520
competitive in the sense that it's

1001
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,119
drawing more people in from out of the

1002
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:25,760
area. Um so why is that important?

1003
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,520
Whenever we benchmark your system

1004
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,200
against other comparably sized

1005
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,359
communities around the county, your park

1006
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:34,480
system in terms of acreage is low.

1007
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,760
Um, and why that's important is whenever

1008
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,920
you have a smaller system like what you

1009
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,480
currently have now in terms of acres,

1010
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,359
the the parks that you have um can get

1011
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:49,839
loved to death. And and whenever that

1012
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:51,760
happens, no matter how strong of an

1013
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,119
effort your parks and recreation

1014
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:55,280
department is making, your facilities

1015
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,640
are going to get worn out. They're going

1016
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,560
to get used. And as we saw with this,

1017
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,160
with more and more people using your

1018
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,920
facilities, it's straining that system.

1019
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,319
Uh it's jumping around. That's just

1020
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:07,599
something to bear in mind. And that's

1021
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,200
not true of just Carter County. It

1022
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,800
happens a lot that whenever you build a

1023
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,560
system and you have a lot of growth

1024
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,079
that's coming in, in particular,

1025
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:15,599
especially with y'all having Interstate

1026
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,440
42 coming in, that's more and more

1027
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,800
what's happening. your parks department

1028
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,720
is doing a great job. It's just your

1029
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,280
facilities are getting strained. So, the

1030
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,800
next piece that I want to pull up is

1031
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,440
unmet facility needs.

1032
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,079
Um, if you look at kind of from the

1033
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,800
bottom to the top, if you see more red,

1034
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,720
it means that those are not those are

1035
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,440
unmet needs. If you see it in blue, it's

1036
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,440
a partially met need. I'm sorry, in

1037
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,680
gray, it's a partially met need. If you

1038
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,040
notice, your athletic fields are up

1039
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,119
towards the top.

1040
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:46,640
Now, that doesn't mean that you don't

1041
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,880
need more athletic fields. Your your

1042
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960
recreation program data is actually

1043
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
saying that you have need for more

1044
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,760
athletic fields 100%. What this is

1045
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,280
saying is that you actually have

1046
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,200
community members that desire recreation

1047
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,680
that isn't athletic fields.

1048
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,760
So, you have both a desire for passive

1049
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,760
recreation, trails, hiking, biking, um

1050
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
those type of things, and there's also a

1051
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480
desire for um more of those athletic

1052
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,720
fields. But right now, both of those

1053
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,560
demands are trying to be met by a very

1054
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,000
limited amount of parkland.

1055
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,079
All right. So, why do I bring this up?

1056
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,400
Um, so whenever we asked through the

1057
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,000
statistically valid survey how important

1058
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,040
it was to have high quality to fund high

1059
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,119
quality parks and recreation in the

1060
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:32,880
county, the part that I want to draw you

1061
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,280
to is 68% I'm sorry, 64% said it was

1062
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,760
very important. The part that I want to

1063
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,280
really draw your attention to is that

1064
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,560
only 1% think that it's not important.

1065
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,400
And I want to let that sink in. We've

1066
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480
heard a lot about uh people talking

1067
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,920
about how important it is for the youth

1068
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,920
to have recreation, but this is saying

1069
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,760
it's not just important for the youth to

1070
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,520
have recreation. It's important to

1071
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,119
virtually everybody in the entire

1072
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,040
community. So, I want you to bear that

1073
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,960
in mind as you're using this tool, this

1074
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,640
comprehensive plan, as a resource over

1075
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,960
the next 15 years.

1076
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,640
All right. So, how do you stack up? We

1077
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,720
also benchmarked you uh both nationally

1078
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,880
and against comparably sized counties

1079
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680
around uh the state in terms of what

1080
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,160
you're spending on operational funds.

1081
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,520
For the state, you're actually not doing

1082
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,319
too bad. Um you know, a lot of those

1083
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:21,760
other counties that are of comparable

1084
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,359
size are more inland. Whenever we look

1085
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:26,000
at um another kind of coastal community,

1086
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,280
you're you're pretty close to where

1087
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,960
they're at. They're slightly above you.

1088
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,480
But whenever we benchmark you against

1089
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,480
those national tiers, those uh the

1090
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,640
national lower median and upper cortile,

1091
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,160
you're a little bit lower. And the

1092
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,599
reason why I wanted to bring that in and

1093
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,839
why that's important is you have a

1094
00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:42,480
destination. Your community is important

1095
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,839
not just to your residents but to

1096
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:46,000
non-residents. And being able to bring

1097
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,680
people in is central to to not just your

1098
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,040
quality of life but also to your

1099
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,720
economy. So that's that's important to

1100
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,880
bring that in.

1101
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,160
All right. So whenever we we also did

1102
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480
some kind of tangential study within uh

1103
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,720
the comprehensive plan Carter County

1104
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,760
through visitnc data um recreation is a

1105
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,119
significant portion of your local

1106
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:11,520
economy. Um you have $743 million it's

1107
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,640
spending related to tourism. 107 of that

1108
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,319
is recreation related. That doesn't mean

1109
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:17,520
that it's you know your parks and

1110
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,680
recreation department alone but it is a

1111
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,680
significant portion of it. And what

1112
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,560
we're going to get at, and I'm going to

1113
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,079
kind of tip my hand here for just a

1114
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,920
second, is sports tourism is a growing

1115
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,480
portion of the the US economy and it's

1116
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,760
really important to a lot of different

1117
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,319
places. Right now, your community just

1118
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,240
because of your system being so small,

1119
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:37,920
you're really not really able to serve

1120
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,000
that niche just yet. But it is something

1121
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960
that we want to uh that as we're going

1122
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,240
to go through here in just a second, it

1123
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,359
is something that we think that you

1124
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:47,040
should start to look at. So, I'm going

1125
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,040
to get in kind of two terms. I'm going

1126
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,960
to go through. There's a lot of detail

1127
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,960
within the plan that's talking about how

1128
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,480
the plan should actually roll out in

1129
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,560
terms of facilities and programs. I want

1130
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,280
you to take two major themes home with

1131
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,760
you. The first of which is most of your

1132
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,920
parks right now around the county and we

1133
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,200
also look to see where the municipal

1134
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,720
parks were at and also your school

1135
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,960
facilities. Most of your parks to date

1136
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,200
have been largely developed in coastal

1137
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,599
areas and in the sound areas and

1138
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,119
certainly you have the national for

1139
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,440
forest that's currently inland. But with

1140
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,040
Interstate 42 development coming in, we

1141
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,880
really think that the county should

1142
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,880
start to look at inland areas for

1143
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,200
parkland and do some feasibility

1144
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,680
research into whether that be a nature

1145
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,240
type uh type park, a sports tourism

1146
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:35,680
destination. Um because you know if you

1147
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,920
develop a park that is one able to serve

1148
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,400
the residents first but also maybe in

1149
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
the shoulder seasons um whenever you

1150
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,800
could maybe you develop a sports tourism

1151
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,640
complex or maybe you develop a nature

1152
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,040
park that's inland that not only serves

1153
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,559
those residents during your peak times

1154
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,640
but in the offseason and the and in your

1155
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,640
shoulder season is also able to put more

1156
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,880
heads in your beds to to bring more

1157
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,319
tourists into the area which also

1158
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:00,559
bolsters your local economy. And doing

1159
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,640
that we think is really essential to by

1160
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,720
trying to find some inland area to

1161
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,119
expand your park system.

1162
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:08,400
The other thing that we want you to

1163
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,040
think about is your program base. Um

1164
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,720
right now your staff is giving it all

1165
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:15,119
they can, but a lot of the passive

1166
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,040
recreation programs that the community

1167
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,040
wants, you need more space to be able to

1168
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,640
offer it. So a lot of things that the

1169
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,000
community is interested in are things

1170
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,960
like special events, uh more fitness

1171
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,280
areas, programs for seniors and

1172
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,520
different age groups. But the way your

1173
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,280
current system is set up is because if

1174
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,079
it's more active recreation, you have to

1175
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,240
have additional land to be able to offer

1176
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,240
more of those program spaces and it's

1177
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,280
going to take you a little bit of time

1178
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,599
to actually get there. So, in time

1179
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:42,960
expanding more of that passive

1180
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,559
recreation to serve uh the community.

1181
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:48,319
All right. Again, this was just an

1182
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,079
overview. What I have up on the screen

1183
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,000
are kind of what the details look like.

1184
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,200
I know that you've had a chance to see

1185
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,559
it. The community will also have a

1186
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,960
chance to see it. that we finitely go

1187
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,760
through the very um regimented list of

1188
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,599
not only the details that you think that

1189
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,359
we think you need to to pursue over the

1190
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:05,760
next 15 years but broke that break those

1191
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,240
down into different areas and prioritize

1192
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,440
them. The other thing that we do is we

1193
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,599
also give you a list of capital um

1194
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:15,280
considerations that you should make over

1195
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,760
the next 15 years. Now, I will say that

1196
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,200
whenever you look at those capital

1197
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,480
projects, it benefits you to have a

1198
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,160
larger list within there that really

1199
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,319
describes the whole area of what the

1200
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:28,559
county would really need with the idea

1201
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,480
that if it's listed in there, you can

1202
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,720
actually go after grant funds. If it's

1203
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:34,640
not listed in there, you really struggle

1204
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,920
to go after grant [snorts] funding for

1205
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,400
it. Um, and then it's really meant to be

1206
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,800
a piece that helps you make decisions.

1207
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,240
Most communities will not go in and

1208
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,400
develop 100% of what's recommended, but

1209
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,400
it does give you a road map of, you

1210
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,000
know, what uh what you can pick and

1211
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,359
choose and go after grant funding and

1212
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:51,280
move forward.

1213
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,520
All right. Um, with that being, like I

1214
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,359
said, I meant for this to be an over uh

1215
00:50:55,359 --> 00:50:58,000
an overview of the the comp plan. Um,

1216
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,680
and I'm happy to entertain any questions

1217
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,880
that you may have.

1218
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,520
>> Any questions?

1219
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,720
>> So, does McGill

1220
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,200
Sorry. Is that okay? Go ahead. Cool.

1221
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,760
>> So, does does Miguel stay with us for

1222
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,760
any length of time after the publication

1223
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,640
of this? I mean, do we have you as a as

1224
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,599
a resource to

1225
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,720
>> I I will say so a lot of the communities

1226
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,800
we do end up staying on and working with

1227
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,640
the communities after the comprehensive

1228
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,040
plan for feasibility studies for sight

1229
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,040
specific master plans for more detailed

1230
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,119
analysis of the data that we collected.

1231
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:35,040
Uh I'd say that happens probably 70 or

1232
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,150
80% of the time.

1233
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,520
So, we have to have this plan, Matt,

1234
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,319
ever renewed ever so often to be

1235
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:48,960
eligible to apply for grants.

1236
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,960
>> Yes, sir. The standard is typically 10

1237
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,400
years, and correct me if I say anything

1238
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,319
wrong, but typically 10 years. We're

1239
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:55,839
just looking a little bit further out.

1240
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:57,760
>> Yeah. So, uh, two of the major grants

1241
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,520
that the state offers, the parks and

1242
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,960
recreation trust fund and land and water

1243
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,319
conservation fund. I used to manage

1244
00:52:02,319 --> 00:52:04,400
those for the state. So, this plan has

1245
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,160
been developed to help you go after

1246
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,480
those grant funding. uh it it is a

1247
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,359
10-year window um for this plan to

1248
00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:12,800
actually be eligible for those.

1249
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,079
Typically, a community will come in

1250
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:16,000
later and then actually update it. But

1251
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,520
yes, this plan will help you over the

1252
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,061
next 10 years go after grant funding.

1253
00:52:22,071 --> 00:52:22,400
[clears throat]

1254
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,119
>> Okay. So, while you were in the midst of

1255
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:30,720
this, did you get close enough to our

1256
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:33,839
county to know or to see some of the

1257
00:52:33,839 --> 00:52:36,720
regions instead of just saying inland

1258
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,920
where some of that land might be of

1259
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,480
interest for a

1260
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,880
>> Yeah, there are, if I can bring up on

1261
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,480
the map, um the zone area one, you're

1262
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,680
going to have you're having a lot of

1263
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,400
growth that's happening along the um

1264
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,640
>> highway that area. Yeah. Highway 50 area

1265
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,079
and then also Interstate 42 as that's

1266
00:52:58,079 --> 00:52:59,520
coming through especially around kind of

1267
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,680
the Newport area and the connecting

1268
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,720
pieces between that. Um you do the down

1269
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,800
east community definitely had a lot of

1270
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,720
expressed need. So I would not put that

1271
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,880
off. It's just that's going to need to

1272
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,760
be developed more for local use. The

1273
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,680
your thoroughares your major highways

1274
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,960
are going to be where you're going to be

1275
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,040
able to hit the double benefit of

1276
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,559
serving the residents plus also

1277
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,040
attracting visitors. I would the only

1278
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,400
thing I'd add to that is we actually

1279
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,319
recommend a feasibility study within it

1280
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:28,559
so that you can go in and know you know

1281
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:30,240
if you put a certain investment level

1282
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:32,720
into a park what your ROI is going to be

1283
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,640
on that site and how many visitors you

1284
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,920
may actually be able to attract with

1285
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,720
that particular park.

1286
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,640
And just of note, you did make note in

1287
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,319
the report that of 160,000 acres that we

1288
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:52,800
have of Croatan National Forest, 54 of

1289
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,720
it, 54,000 you said onethird is in

1290
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:57,839
Carter County,

1291
00:53:57,839 --> 00:53:59,760
>> right? Yeah. So, good point. Yes, the

1292
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Croatan is definitely described within

1293
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,920
it. We also outline not just that, but

1294
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,520
other recreational opportunities that

1295
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,359
are found. Um, and the Croan forest

1296
00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:11,760
plays a massive role in serving passive

1297
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,760
recreation, but it doesn't serve all of

1298
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,390
the need that's out there.

1299
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,240
» Okay, any further questions?

1300
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,000
>> We're going to need a motion to adopt

1301
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,559
the comprehensive park and recreation

1302
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,200
master plan.

1303
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,440
>> So moved. Motion by Commissioner Walder.

1304
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:31,839
>> Second.

1305
00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:33,680
>> Seconded by Commissioner Quinn. All in

1306
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,000
favor?

1307
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,920
>> All right.

1308
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,480
>> Have a good evening.

1309
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,880
>> We'll be in we'll be in touch, I guess.

1310
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,960
>> And it's worth looking at. So, if you

1311
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,720
guys can go out and find our agenda

1312
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:48,079
package, go look at allund

1313
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:49,520
x number of pages of it.

1314
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,960
>> Don't go nowhere, Ronnie. The main

1315
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,040
event's coming up right now. [laughter]

1316
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,520
>> Don't go nowhere.

1317
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,359
Ne

1318
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:58,559
next next is we're going to have

1319
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,800
discussion about the tennis court needs

1320
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,480
for the Carter County Public School

1321
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,760
System. Mr. Richard Pal.

1322
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,520
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate being

1323
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,960
referred to as the main event.

1324
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,040
>> Yeah. [laughter]

1325
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,200
>> Um so I am here to discuss uh tennis

1326
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,359
court needs um and advocate for our

1327
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,520
youth. Um

1328
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,520
I became an assistant superintendent 9

1329
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,839
years ago and when I became up to the uh

1330
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:23,599
district office at that time we were

1331
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:24,800
talking about the need for tennis

1332
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,720
courts. Um at that time we were also

1333
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,119
talking about a bond referendum. Um and

1334
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:30,960
the the numbers for that bond referendum

1335
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,720
was uh they were put together in the

1336
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,160
years of 2016 and 2017. Um but that bond

1337
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,040
was not voted on until 2020 as you know.

1338
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,440
Um at that time um we we had CO and um

1339
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,720
we had a $42 million bond and uh the

1340
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,319
first two projects that were bid out

1341
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,160
were not accepted because of the bids

1342
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,680
were so high. And then uh we went back

1343
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,280
to the drawing board with our architect

1344
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,440
and figured out that for the $42 million

1345
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,760
bond we really needed about $80 million

1346
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,160
to complete all the projects on the bond

1347
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,119
list. Um at that time the bond committee

1348
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:06,319
decided to concentrate on uh number one

1349
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:08,559
safety and number two was capacity of

1350
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:11,119
our schools. And so that's what we did.

1351
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:13,760
Um right now we're getting down to the

1352
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,559
end of our bond money. Um we just uh

1353
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,359
approved the the last project. Um the

1354
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,440
last major project which will be a

1355
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,359
renovation at East Carter High School.

1356
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:26,240
Um, I originally I was on the agenda

1357
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:27,680
tonight to come to you and talk to you

1358
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,520
about the need and I planned on coming

1359
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,200
and showing you the slides of how how

1360
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,960
bad a shape our tennis courts and and

1361
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960
even our tracks are in. Um, but that

1362
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,400
changed on Friday when the bond

1363
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,119
committee met. Um, we we do have a

1364
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:41,040
little bit of money left over um that

1365
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,880
the the last of the bond money and the

1366
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200
bond committee decided to um bid out

1367
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,280
tennis courts and so we are going to bid

1368
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,880
out tennis courts. Um we're putting

1369
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,280
together the package right now for East

1370
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Carter, West Carter, and Croatan. Um and

1371
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,359
we're also going to take some alternate

1372
00:56:55,359 --> 00:56:57,839
bids for our tracks. So um there there's

1373
00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:59,920
needs for all uh tracks at all three of

1374
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,520
our schools. We actually have a track at

1375
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,599
Bro Creek Middle School, but we're going

1376
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:04,960
to concentrate on our high schools for

1377
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,040
now. Um and we're going to uh definitely

1378
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,599
put the bids out for the tennis courts.

1379
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:10,640
So

1380
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,280
>> any question?

1381
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,200
>> Thank you, Mr. Per. I think everybody's

1382
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,880
pleased to hear that we got a couple

1383
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,040
million dollars going after the tennis

1384
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,920
courts first and uh the tracks are in

1385
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,680
horrible shape as well. A lot of

1386
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,160
settling and uh going to need to be

1387
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,079
totally redone and what money we have

1388
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,480
left over or hopefully in the near

1389
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,240
future we'll be taking the tracks next.

1390
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,680
>> Right. We may need a need from from you

1391
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,440
guys for the tracks, but we we feel

1392
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,200
pretty confident about tennis courts.

1393
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,160
>> Okay.

1394
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,520
>> All right. Thank you, Richie.

1395
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:37,839
>> Thank you.

1396
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:38,720
>> All right. Thank you.

1397
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,240
>> Okay.

1398
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Now you can go, Ronnie.

1399
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,200
>> I didn't want you to miss that.

1400
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,119
>> All right. Next, we have our items that

1401
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,839
we moved off of the consent agenda,

1402
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:55,040
which is uh item nine and 10, approval

1403
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,200
of a jail diversion recovery service

1404
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,760
agreement with Loaves and Fishes. And

1405
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,920
item 10, approval of a jail diversion

1406
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,920
recovery service agreement with the

1407
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Mariam.

1408
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,559
Is there any discussion?

1409
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,559
>> Mr. Chairman, thank you. I was it was it

1410
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:12,880
was my request to remove those from the

1411
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,040
consent agenda. Um and the reason for

1412
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,839
the request, so earlier, as you recall,

1413
00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:22,400
earlier this month, we had a meeting um

1414
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,319
with with vendors and the county staff,

1415
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:27,599
uh the sheriff's department, health

1416
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,200
department um to discuss the current

1417
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,200
contract that we have with a vendor to

1418
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,799
provide

1419
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:37,760
uh mental health, substance abuse

1420
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,280
treatment.

1421
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,599
Um, that's been kind of a rocky road

1422
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,240
since that contract was signed

1423
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,839
originally.

1424
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:49,200
Um, so

1425
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,760
I would like to see before we sign

1426
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,720
contracts with two more entities, I

1427
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,880
would like to see some results or find

1428
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,880
out um if there's any results or if

1429
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,960
anything's changed, if we've made any

1430
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,440
improvements or progress following our

1431
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,640
meeting earlier this month.

1432
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,160
uh and then to also uh evaluate the

1433
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,240
success of the um contract that we have

1434
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,000
currently and to

1435
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,920
look at the necessity the actual

1436
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,920
necessity of signing a contract with two

1437
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,200
more entities. I don't feel like we're

1438
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,599
fully utilizing the contract that we

1439
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:35,760
have with Southeastern Integrated Care.

1440
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,520
That's who we currently have a contract

1441
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,599
with. I don't think we're fully

1442
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,359
utilizing that contract and we did that

1443
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:47,760
in good faith and I feel like before we

1444
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,119
signed additional contracts with other

1445
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:52,640
agencies

1446
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,160
um

1447
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,319
we need to evaluate the the real need

1448
00:59:56,319 --> 00:59:58,559
and necessity for them. These other

1449
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:02,160
agencies have been providing a service

1450
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,319
uh to my knowledge. I didn't know about

1451
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:06,240
it prior but they were providing a

1452
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,440
service without a contract. Uh they were

1453
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,119
operating I think there were some some

1454
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:13,040
insurance issues which I understand now

1455
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,599
have been resolved but also these are

1456
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,079
nothing against it but these are

1457
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,799
religion-based organizations. I don't

1458
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:24,880
have a bit of problem with with

1459
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,960
religion-based organizations but the

1460
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,839
county has to be very careful as to how

1461
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:32,799
we uh conduct business with them. We

1462
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:35,359
can't just, you know, I encourage

1463
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,280
everybody to go to church and pray and

1464
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,400
whatnot, but there's a time and a place

1465
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,160
and there's and there's a service for

1466
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,680
that. So, we have to be very careful

1467
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,640
about what we do and and how we uh

1468
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,079
interact with with those organizations.

1469
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,000
So, I'm not saying that we don't need

1470
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,960
those uh additional contracts. So, I'm

1471
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,640
just saying I would like to know the

1472
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,799
exact necessity and and a little bit of

1473
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:06,240
time to to decide if the meeting that we

1474
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,000
had was fruitful, if there's any

1475
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,319
benefits for it from it, if it was

1476
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:12,000
productive at all. I don't know. I

1477
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,799
haven't got I haven't gotten any reports

1478
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:16,960
uh one way or the other on that from

1479
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,760
that meeting. So, um, I don't think it's

1480
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,680
a big deal to give it a little bit more

1481
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,559
time till the next meeting or maybe the

1482
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,200
following meeting to make a decision.

1483
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,240
That was the only only point I I wanted

1484
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,359
to make and removing those.

1485
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:35,440
>> Okay. Well, certainly I respect your

1486
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,200
opinion as always. U, but I don't like

1487
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,200
having all our eggs in one basket. We

1488
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,839
know mental health is a big issue here

1489
01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:47,119
in Carter County and uh the Loaves and

1490
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:48,960
Fishes folks have been providing a

1491
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,119
service for us. The Mariam Tammy Thomas,

1492
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,400
former deputy sheriff, uh excellent

1493
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,559
individual running an excellent program.

1494
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,119
These people when they go to this jail

1495
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:01,119
diversion, they are in the custody of

1496
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:03,680
the sheriff. So really, we shouldn't be

1497
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,280
we should be approving a contract or the

1498
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,640
county manager should be approving a

1499
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,839
contract, but really it's up to our

1500
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:09,440
sheriff. We have a very fine sheriff,

1501
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,880
John Nyberg, back there in the

1502
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,880
background. Chief Deputy, uh, David

1503
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,400
Clifton. I was getting it out. Uh, David

1504
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,319
Clifton doing an excellent job for us.

1505
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:23,040
And when people come to our jail and

1506
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,480
it's determined that they have mental

1507
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,200
health issues and maybe a program,

1508
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,880
whether it be a religious program, and I

1509
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,240
think studies show that religious

1510
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,040
programs have a better outcome than some

1511
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,720
of the other programs. I've been told

1512
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,640
that uh those folks once they're

1513
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,640
determined to fit into that uh group

1514
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,880
that can go here to these programs

1515
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,359
instead of being in our overly populated

1516
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:47,440
jail. You know, we have 160ome people in

1517
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,480
our jail that's designed for 114 people.

1518
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,640
Uh so we have these programs that we can

1519
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,119
place them in the Loaves and Fishes or

1520
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:57,359
Southeastern or the Marryiam and it

1521
01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:59,599
helps the county out.

1522
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,680
Uh, and we talked about doing this last

1523
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,000
month, and we did find that there was

1524
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,040
some insurance issues. Our great county

1525
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,720
manager and county attorney, Sharon

1526
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,440
Griffin, uh, went over the contracts

1527
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,839
with a fine tooth comb and picked up

1528
01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:15,119
that they didn't have the adequate

1529
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:16,480
insurance. So, she reached out to them

1530
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,119
and they obtained the insurance. And,

1531
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,760
uh, I feel like we need a multitude of

1532
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,760
services

1533
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,839
at our disposal, not just one. And the

1534
01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:28,400
contract we have with Southeastern

1535
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,880
is not an exclusive contract. We we have

1536
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,520
a contract to send folks there, but it

1537
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,960
doesn't exclude us from having contracts

1538
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,240
with other people to be able to send

1539
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,440
them wherever they might fit best. So, I

1540
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,799
would like to move forward with the

1541
01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:43,039
agreements, but it's up to the rest of

1542
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:47,280
the commissioners what they say.

1543
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,440
Commissioner Walder, you got an opinion?

1544
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,880
>> I support your position, uh, Chairman. I

1545
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,720
also believe that in the past um we've

1546
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,920
also used multiple opportunities for

1547
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,440
recovery. Miriam's not new to our

1548
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,680
program. We've been using Miriam

1549
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,559
although they are exclusive to women. Um

1550
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:13,200
I think there is an opportunity for um

1551
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,599
many um recovery programs because I

1552
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,119
don't believe one sizefits-all.

1553
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:25,109
Commissioner Quinn,

1554
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,359
» I certainly do appreciate um

1555
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:30,000
Commissioner Shin's request to consider

1556
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,200
and go back over a lot of the uh

1557
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,039
agreements that we have had, but I feel

1558
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:37,680
that the uh the more I've thought about

1559
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,520
it and the in the meetings that we have

1560
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,760
had previously that we've done that and

1561
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,280
that we've asked um our the other two

1562
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,720
organizations that we've had a long

1563
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,680
relationship with to come up with the

1564
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,640
insurance that they need. We are not in

1565
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,119
breach of any contracts with any of the

1566
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:56,880
organizations that we have currently

1567
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,799
signed. And again, I I do agree with

1568
01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:03,359
Commissioner Waldruff that it's not a

1569
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:06,079
one-sizefits-all as far as treatment

1570
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:08,400
programs are concerned. Some treatment

1571
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,720
facilities, treatment programs, and

1572
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,960
methods of treatment uh are going to be

1573
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,160
more effective for indiv certain

1574
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,720
individuals and not maybe for others. So

1575
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,079
I I I'm for moving forward uh with um of

1576
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:21,440
these contracts. Thank you.

1577
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,240
>> Thank you, Vice Chairman Mansfield.

1578
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,160
>> I mean, I don't I don't have much many

1579
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,839
thoughts. I mean, I agree with what

1580
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:32,079
everybody said here tonight, but

1581
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:33,359
>> have a little bit more time would

1582
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:36,319
probably help, but I mean, I think

1583
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:37,920
competition is good. I'm for free

1584
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,440
market. I'm not for government picking

1585
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,520
winners and losers. Uh, Commissioner

1586
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,760
Clark,

1587
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:49,359
>> I'm uh I think that the key part of the argument is exclusivity and we

1588
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:50,960
don't have an exclusive as you've

1589
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,000
already mentioned with uh the one that

1590
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,280
we've signed and so I would I would vote

1591
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,359
that we just proceed.

1592
01:05:59,359 --> 01:06:01,760
>> Okay. So, we need to take a vote on that

1593
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,119
or

1594
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,440
>> Yes, if you could take two votes, one on

1595
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,160
loves and fishes and one on the Miriam,

1596
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,720
please.

1597
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,280
>> Okay. Is there a motion to approve the

1598
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,839
contract with Loaves and Fishes for a

1599
01:06:13,839 --> 01:06:16,720
jail diversion recovery service?

1600
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,480
>> Just for the record, Mr. Chairman, I'm

1601
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,319
going to maintain my motion as before to

1602
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:26,480
uh table the contracts until a further

1603
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,680
meeting to evaluate the necessity.

1604
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,200
>> So, we need to vote on that motion.

1605
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,720
>> You need to see if there's a second in

1606
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,119
the on the motion to table.

1607
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:39,680
>> Okay. Is there a second to table this?

1608
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,760
Without a second, that motion fails.

1609
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,240
Correct.

1610
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:42,960
>> That's correct.

1611
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,119
>> All right. So now, do we we need a

1612
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,359
motion to approve a jail diversion

1613
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:48,960
recovery service agreement with Lowe's

1614
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,400
and Fishes?

1615
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,280
>> So move.

1616
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,079
>> Motion by Commissioner Wald.

1617
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:56,079
>> Seconded by Commissioner Quinn. All in

1618
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:59,190
favor?

1619
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,280
Any opposed?

1620
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,880
All right. Next, we need an

1621
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,520
approval of a agreement for jail

1622
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,319
diversion services with the Mariam.

1623
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:11,119
>> So moved.

1624
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:13,760
>> Motion by Commissioner Waldrip.

1625
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,240
>> Second.

1626
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,160
>> Seconded by Commissioner Quinn. All in

1627
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,720
favor?

1628
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,359
All right. Motion carries.

1629
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:23,440
All right.

1630
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,960
We good there?

1631
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,160
>> Yes.

1632
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,400
>> Next is the manager's report.

1633
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,799
>> That's me. I'll be very brief. Thank you

1634
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:33,280
everyone for being here this evening and

1635
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,640
thank you to our commissioners for all

1636
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,920
the work that they do. Couple of

1637
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,799
announcements in observance of Labor

1638
01:07:38,799 --> 01:07:41,680
Day. Most county offices will be closed

1639
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,920
on Monday, September 7th. It's a little

1640
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,480
late this year and we do wish everyone a

1641
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,799
safe and enjoyable Labor Day weekend.

1642
01:07:48,799 --> 01:07:51,520
Also, um please remember we're getting

1643
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,240
into the month in September that

1644
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,920
unfortunately is the peak of our

1645
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,640
hurricane season. If you've not made

1646
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,720
arrangements in your own household and

1647
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,440
with pets and with anyone that you care

1648
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,640
for, like an elderly parent, um make

1649
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,640
sure to make some plans to be prepared

1650
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,920
for hurricane season and to have um some

1651
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,839
things ready in your household. We all

1652
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:15,280
remember some of the ones that have come

1653
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,759
through and uh kind of stuck around a

1654
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:19,359
little longer than we wanted them to.

1655
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:20,880
So, we want to make sure everyone's

1656
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,960
still keeping that at the front of their

1657
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,120
mind. And maybe if we prepare really

1658
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,560
well, nothing will happen, right?

1659
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,159
>> So, um, anyways, we're hoping, right,

1660
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:34,799
>> Billy still over there? Yes. Yeah. Okay.

1661
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:37,759
Um, also, the board of elections are

1662
01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:40,319
recruiting and the and the staff over

1663
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,560
there. We're are recruiting precinct

1664
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,560
officials right now for the November

1665
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,199
general election. This is so important.

1666
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:48,960
And we have training coming up in

1667
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,640
September.

1668
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,040
Um, precinct officials can either be

1669
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,679
paid or volunteer and you need to

1670
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:58,880
register um as a Carter County voter

1671
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,520
before you can be a precinct official.

1672
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,960
So, if you're not registered to vote

1673
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,560
here in Carter County, you probably

1674
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,880
can't be a precinct official here. But

1675
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,199
if you're if you are registered here and

1676
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:11,199
you're interested in serving, please

1677
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:13,199
call the board of elections to learn

1678
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:15,040
more about signing up for that. And

1679
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,880
that's all I have unless any of you have

1680
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,199
questions. Thank you. Any questions of

1681
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:22,239
the manager? All right. Next, we have

1682
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:24,560
appointments. First one is Carter

1683
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,400
Community College Board of Trustees,

1684
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,359
Cindy Brown. All in favor of Miss Brown.

1685
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,920
Next is the Carter County Buffer Airport

1686
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,679
Authority, myself, James Fwell, Roy

1687
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:40,000
Graham, Patrick Joyce, and Randall

1688
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:40,560
Ramsey.

1689
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,920
>> Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to

1690
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,600
approve Commissioner Chadwick, Mr.

1691
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,759
Fwell, Mr. Graham, Mr. Joyce, and Mr.

1692
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:47,279
Ramsey to be reappointed for another

1693
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:48,239
two-year term.

1694
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:49,839
>> All right. All in favor of all those

1695
01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:51,440
folks.

1696
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:53,279
Next, we have Civilian Military

1697
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,520
Community Council, Commissioner Maryanne

1698
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,239
Waldrip.

1699
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,640
>> I'll make a motion to appoint M. Waldrip

1700
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,719
to a perpetual term to the Civilian

1701
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:02,560
Military Community Council.

1702
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,840
>> All right. All in favor, Commissioner

1703
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,360
Waldrip.

1704
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,920
>> Next, we have Consolidated

1705
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,353
Human Service Board, Dr. Joseph Smith.

1706
01:10:12,353 --> 01:10:16,320
[snorts] All in favor, Mr. Smith.

1707
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,320
Next, we have the Highway 70 corridor

1708
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,880
commissioner, uh, former mayor mayor of

1709
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,640
Morehead City, Jerry Jones. Mr.

1710
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,080
>> Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to

1711
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,840
appoint Mr. Jones as the Highway 42,

1712
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,640
Interstate 42 on the Highway 70 corridor

1713
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,199
commissioner.

1714
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:33,920
>> All in favor, Mr. Jones.

1715
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,520
Next, we have the Juvenile Crime

1716
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,440
Prevention Council, Jackson Valentine.

1717
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:44,070
All in favor, Mr. Valentine.

1718
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,560
Next, we have the Carter County Planning

1719
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,480
Board, Michelle Moffett, to a three-year

1720
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:54,719
term expiring August 17th, 2029. All in

1721
01:10:54,719 --> 01:10:58,870
favor, Miss Moffett.

1722
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,120
Next, we have the Senior Center Advisory

1723
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,400
Board, uh, Shirley Cobb, a reappointment

1724
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,199
to a two-year term. All in favor, Miss

1725
01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:09,920
Cobb.

1726
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,840
Okay, that does it. Next, we have

1727
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,920
commissioner comment.

1728
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,280
Start down there with Mr. Clark.

1729
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,080
Commissioner Clark.

1730
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,679
>> Thank you, Chairman. Um, I'll be brief,

1731
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:23,280
but I will make u

1732
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,600
I would like to direct to some comments

1733
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,280
that were dear toward us earlier. Um,

1734
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,000
as a followup since we can discuss it in

1735
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,880
this forum, this [clears throat] county

1736
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,320
does not have any contracts and in while

1737
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,199
I'm sitting here, we have no intention

1738
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:43,280
of getting contracts with any flaw

1739
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:44,800
camera companies.

1740
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,560
>> I I'm I'm speaking

1741
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,159
>> so they may be on the street. The NC DOT

1742
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:53,280
has control of streets, but the county,

1743
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,920
you can pull up our our budget and you

1744
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,159
can comb every page and you won't find

1745
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:01,760
us paying for any flop cameras. So, I

1746
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,800
don't know where you got your

1747
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,560
information and I'm not denying that the

1748
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,199
cameras are there. But this board here

1749
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:10,080
didn't put them in place because I'm I'm

1750
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,679
as adamant against those kind of things

1751
01:12:11,679 --> 01:12:12,400
as you are.

1752
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,480
>> You're a commissioner. They're all over.

1753
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:15,840
>> We don't control

1754
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,480
>> uh Excuse me, Commissioner Clark. Sir,

1755
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,159
this this is not a question and answer

1756
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:21,760
session. So, you're just going to have

1757
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,080
to sit there and listen. And uh the

1758
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,440
commissioners are making their comments

1759
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:26,560
and then we're going to adjourn the

1760
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:27,679
meeting.

1761
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:28,320
>> I'm done.

1762
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,520
>> Go ahead.

1763
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,600
>> Okay. All right. Commissioner Shin,

1764
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,040
>> I'm going refrain from comment this

1765
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,800
evening, sir.

1766
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,400
>> All right. Vice Chairman Mansfield,

1767
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,400
>> I'll yield my time also.

1768
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,920
>> All right. Commissioner Walder,

1769
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,679
>> good evening. Thank you everybody for

1770
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:45,760
coming out. Good to meet you, Mr. James

1771
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,159
Jones. you were a great uh

1772
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:52,400
representative for the Marryman um park.

1773
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,360
Um well done.

1774
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,120
>> We hear you loud and clear and I hope

1775
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,120
that you're able to work with our parks

1776
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,640
and wrecks because I think that's really

1777
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,280
the next step is to work with Miss Tina

1778
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:08,000
Puroy. Um so and we have uh pages and

1779
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,880
pages to comb over for our parks and Rex

1780
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,960
master plan and you certainly can be a

1781
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,920
part of that for uh for your zone. So,

1782
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,440
thank you and thanks for all your

1783
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:18,960
enthusiasm.

1784
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,239
Um, Mr. Watson, thank you for have been

1785
01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:25,040
here earlier today. Thank you,

1786
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,640
Superintendent,

1787
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,960
uh, for listening to us. Thank you for

1788
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,920
Croitan for stepping up and being a a

1789
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,360
loud voice with Mr. Watson. Um, I think

1790
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,360
we went a long way in trying to get that

1791
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,880
rectified.

1792
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,800
Um,

1793
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,960
thank you, Brian, for always being here

1794
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,159
and speaking, and I appreciate being

1795
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:48,159
nominated to the Civilian Military

1796
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:50,159
Community Council.

1797
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:51,040
>> Thank you.

1798
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,159
Commissioner Wald,

1799
01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:53,679
Commissioner Quinn.

1800
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:56,080
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, students

1801
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,159
are back at Carter Community College.

1802
01:13:58,159 --> 01:13:59,600
We're glad to welcome them back on

1803
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,199
campus once again. Over [clears throat]

1804
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:04,000
1,700 students registered. So, that's

1805
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040
outstanding number for us. Uh this is my

1806
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,360
26th year as an employee of Carter

1807
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,640
Community College. I'm very proud of

1808
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,000
that number and very proud of all the

1809
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,000
achievements that uh the college has

1810
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,520
made during that time period. Things are

1811
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,760
looking great on campus. If you're uh in

1812
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,440
the area, please drop by. Um we have our

1813
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:23,360
women's soccer team that is going to be

1814
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,000
having their first home match next

1815
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:26,880
Thursday.

1816
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,159
>> September.

1817
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:28,960
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

1818
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,600
>> September.

1819
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,280
2nd. September 2nd. Thank you

1820
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,400
very much. That's going to be at Rotary

1821
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,120
Park. So, please come out and support uh

1822
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,600
the women's soccer team. Uh baseball

1823
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,360
players are already on campus. I got a

1824
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,640
few in my class. Um and uh looking

1825
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,159
forward to that upcoming season.

1826
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:49,360
Uh the the street name changes. I I just

1827
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,120
want to offer my opinion there because

1828
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,360
we had two street name changes that came

1829
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,520
up and we approved one and we and we did

1830
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,719
not approve the second. And the first

1831
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:02,239
one is pretty obvious. is for a 911

1832
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,960
emergency services issue. Uh a lot of

1833
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,640
confusion as far as mail delivery,

1834
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,120
package delivery, uh and just confusion

1835
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,199
generally for uh the residents in that

1836
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:13,360
area. And so it made sense to me to

1837
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,840
approve that particular street name

1838
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,840
change. When it came to the second

1839
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,000
street name change, there's not a a

1840
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,880
pressing issue when it comes to uh any

1841
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,920
kind of 911 emergency services issue.

1842
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,600
This is just a request in order to

1843
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,719
change the name uh from one to another.

1844
01:15:30,719 --> 01:15:33,040
And I'm going to kind of go back to what

1845
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,719
Commissioner Chairman uh the chairman uh

1846
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:38,159
Chadwick said that changing these names

1847
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:41,920
from our original family names, street

1848
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,360
names, place names, buildings, towns.

1849
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,760
This is going to erase the heritage of

1850
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,679
Carter County, the history of Carter

1851
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:52,480
County. We've got to hold on to those

1852
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:54,560
place names. we've got to hold on to

1853
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,320
those family names that are a big part

1854
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,320
of Carter Countyy's heritage because

1855
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,159
that what makes Carter County such a

1856
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:02,239
great place to live and a great place to

1857
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:03,920
visit. And so that's that's the reason I

1858
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,520
just wanted to explain that's why I

1859
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,600
supported one change and and not the

1860
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,800
other. And then finally, uh the tins

1861
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,120
courts, I'm so pleased uh that a

1862
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,560
decision has finally been made to build

1863
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,000
those uh tennis courts. Uh I've been an

1864
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,640
advocate for that since I was sworn in

1865
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,440
almost four years ago. really happy to

1866
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,360
see that that change is finally made.

1867
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,320
Coach Shehan is here uh tonight and he

1868
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,679
and I have had a lot of discussions

1869
01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:32,320
about this and really happy to uh see

1870
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,719
that this is going to be a move forward.

1871
01:16:34,719 --> 01:16:36,640
These are much needed facilities.

1872
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,480
Football, baseball, basketball, they get

1873
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:40,000
all the attention. They bring in all the

1874
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,080
money. U but there are a lot of other

1875
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,080
sports that are outstanding for a large

1876
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,679
number of student athletes that really

1877
01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:46,960
build character. And I'm going to say

1878
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,600
one thing. I did not know that uh coach

1879
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,120
Sheen and Miss Ellen were going to be

1880
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,080
here tonight, but I would love to see

1881
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,239
those tennis courts out at Croatan High

1882
01:16:56,239 --> 01:17:01,199
School named for Coach Jim Shihan. 47

1883
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:03,760
years of coaching, building student

1884
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,800
athletes, their uh character, building

1885
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,280
the community. I would love to see that

1886
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,360
he is honored for [clears throat] the

1887
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,520
dedication, for the leadership, and for

1888
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,880
the commitment to developing young

1889
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,719
athletes in our community.

1890
01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:20,719
um this would be a great reflection of everything that he has done uh for

1891
01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:22,560
our community, for our students, for our

1892
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,640
schools, for our county. That's all I

1893
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,080
got to say. Thank you.

1894
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,239
>> Thank you, Commissioner

1895
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:31,360
Quinn. Uh it escaped me a little while

1896
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,520
ago when we were talking about Morris

1897
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,280
Lane. So, I went back and looked at

1898
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,080
Lor's obituary and guess what his

1899
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,688
favorite meal was? Stewed turtle.

1900
01:17:41,688 --> 01:17:43,520
[laughter]

1901
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,239
>> Oh, no. So that's so that's when Jesus

1902
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:49,040
said, "Chris, do not let the name of the

1903
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,960
road get changed." So So [laughter]

1904
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,360
that's why Commissioner Quinn speaks a

1905
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,760
lot better than I do. But I'm going

1906
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,640
right to the point. The man worked on

1907
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,320
his car. His family lived there. They

1908
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:03,679
originally from Atlantic. They moved to

1909
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:05,600
Harker's Island. But I went back and

1910
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,719
read his obituary and his favorite meal

1911
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:11,280
was stewed turtle. That was just the sun

1912
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,880
just come over me and it was the right

1913
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,719
thing to do. say that's where I stand on

1914
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:16,320
that.

1915
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,320
The Marman parks, I'm all in favor of

1916
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,960
the Marman parks. I want y'all to get in

1917
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,800
touch with James Fulture with a Sarah

1918
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,679
James Fulture fishing tournament. They

1919
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:28,080
just helped out North River and uh

1920
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,600
redoing the playground there. They've

1921
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,199
done one at Cape Carter at Eastern Park

1922
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:33,199
in Smyrna. I want to put you in touch

1923
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:34,960
with them. They're always looking for a

1924
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,719
project to playground uh to honor Sarah

1925
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:40,480
James. She had some disability. she

1926
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:41,679
passed away and they have that fishing

1927
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:43,679
tournament at Cedar Island to honor her

1928
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:45,760
and they build playgrounds that are

1929
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,880
handicap accessible and they do mats uh

1930
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,560
and they have wheelchairs that have big

1931
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,400
tires on them so disabled people can get

1932
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,640
to the water but that's a good spot and

1933
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,239
James would be love he would really jump

1934
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:02,080
right on that I believe so that I'm all

1935
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,159
behind helping out the Marman community

1936
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:06,640
there almost didn't uh recognize Mr.

1937
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Collins with his white hair there, but

1938
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,719
mine's turned a little white, too. But,

1939
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:12,560
uh, he's a he's a good fellow. We did

1940
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,640
business together for many years, and

1941
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,120
first class guy. Uh, school starts soon,

1942
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,360
so I want everybody to be careful about

1943
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,000
the buses early mornings. And, uh, you

1944
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,360
know, everybody's going back to school,

1945
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,280
so I want everybody to be safe. And, uh,

1946
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,640
if there's nothing further to come

1947
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,880
before the board, I'll entertain a

1948
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,640
motion to adjurnn.

1949
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,640
>> Motion by uh, Commissioner Walp,

1950
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,320
seconded by Commissioner Shin. All in

1951
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,920
favor? Thank y'all for coming.