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26. Madam Clerk, can you please call the roll?

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Yes. Tom Brunning.

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President Justin Fowse.

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Michael Galba.

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Brian Golds.

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Mark Hollander.

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Steve Hollander.

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Chris Kyle.

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Denise Mitchell.

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Here. And Vince Ratchford.

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There is a quorum.

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Please join me in a moment of silence and our pledge of allegiance.

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to begin our meeting tonight, we have a presentation by Wing Relative to the Walmart drone program.

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I will announce you, if you don't mind.

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This is Kendall Prosec, correct?

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And Natania Noor and Michelle Valera.

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And there with Wings, which is an affiliate of Walmart.

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And I'd like to proceed to the presentation by saying,

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This came about because I received a press release from Walmart and Wing about this new concept that they were introducing.

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Reach out to them to see if they could fill us in on what it was about and what the future looked like.

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They were very accommodating.

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I believe you can't even love it came and made the presentation.

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It was very good presentation and it was so impressive that I asked them to come and present it to the whole council because they know you all like to be well informed.

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There's probably a lot of questions about how can they do it, do we need to approve it?

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We'll get into that, but I believe this is an FAA matter.

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Is that correct?

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So a lot of this has to do with their flight levels, their pilots, and everything like that.

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So mostly the presentations are going to center on the convenience of what this is about, and what's going to mean it's society.

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So, ladies.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Members of the City Council.

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My name is Michelle Beller.

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And I, a part of Walmart's Community Relations team.

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Thank you.

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All for the opportunity for allowing us to speak and share a little bit about Walmart.

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and a little bit about an exciting new way we're looking to serve the community, particularly here in St. Charles.

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Walmart has a long history here in Missouri. Many of you may or may not know this, but when we first came to the state in 1968.

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And in 1988 in Washington, Missouri, we actually expanded and opened our very first Super Center bringing groceries and general merchandise together under one roof.

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So Missouri has been an important part of our Walmart story and our growth and innovation quite

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frankly for decades. More importantly, we're part of the community across the state and today

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Walmart and SAMS Club have 156 locations, five supply chain facilities in Missouri and nearly

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48,000 associates that actually call Missouri home. Something we're very proud of. We also work

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more than 870 Missouri Suppliers supporting tens of thousands of additional jobs across the state.

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And while those numbers absolutely speak to the scale of our presence, what matters most

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to us is that they represent at the community level, our associates, their neighbors, there

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are customers, our constituents, and our communities you serve are the same communities we

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have the privilege of serving every single day.

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As the needs and expectations of those communities have evolved, Walmart has also evolved

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with them. Today we describe Walmart as a people-led, tech-and-powered,

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omnichannel retailer. While the way we serve our customers has evolved over the years,

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our purpose remains consistent, helping people save money and live better, and increasingly

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technology allows us to deliver on that purpose in new ways. Making everyday life,

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more convenient, and giving customers greater choice in how and when they shop.

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Drone delivery is one of the newest examples of that evolution.

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We began exploring Drone delivery several years ago with a focus on those everyday moments

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when speed and convenience can make a meaningful difference.

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It might be an ingredient for gut net home in that recipe.

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It might be when you're preparing for dinner, baby formula, pet food, any over the counter

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medication when someone at home isn't feeling well.

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Those?

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Thank you.

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These are the very ordinary needs.

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These are very ordinary needs.

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But technology is giving us a new way to meet them, and in some cases in a matter of minutes.

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This may Walmart surpassed one million drone deliveries, and an important milestone as a service continues to grow.

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An average drone delivery takes about 23 minutes, and our customers can choose from thousands of eligible items.

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But it's also important for us to put drones delivery in context. This is not about replacing the ways our customers shop today.

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It's about providing another choice.

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For a full basket of groceries, obviously, pick up

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and one of our other delivery options may make the most sense.

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But when a customer needs one or two items quickly,

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drones delivery can provide another convenient option.

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And it can help eliminate that trip to the store

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for any forgotten item demonstrating how technology

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can help us serve our customers more efficiently

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and within the communities we serve.

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This effort we're undertaking in partnership with drone.

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or excuse me with wing, wing brings significant expertise in autonomous drone delivery and aviation.

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While Walmart brings our store and network products and long-standing relationships with the customer's and community service.

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As we bring this technology to the St. Louis region, we value the opportunity to engage with local leaders

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and the community's answer questions and help people understand what the service is and how it works.

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And with that, I'd like to introduce Kendall Prozac,

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so policy and community affairs leave from wing

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who can share more about the technology itself

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and how the delivery process works.

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And with that, I turn it over to Kendall.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much for your time this evening.

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I just want to make sure, can everyone see the slides

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or to have to put those up?

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Thank you.

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I'm sorry.

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Just of course.

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This is our technology.

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No, that's okay.

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That's my turn to build a Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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You just heard a little bit about Walmart, and I will tell you a bit about Wing, and of course

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always here to answer any questions.

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From Wing, we started back in 2012.

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We are an alphabet company, so a Google sister company.

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And really from 2012 to 2019, we worked on our aircraft.

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We also worked in tandem with the FAA to be able to obtain our regulatory approvals to fly our aircraft safely.

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We have our part 135 air carrier certificate, a very fancy way to say, if you know, a FedEx jet liner that's going from St. Louis Regional down to Austin, Texas, that is how our 11 pound foam drone is also regulated.

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Here are a few accolades on the side. Most of our flight time is about five minutes or less. You heard that we also hit the threshold of a million deliveries to over a million customers this year.

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and we are in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most drone deliveries in an

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hour.

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But a little bit more about our aircraft and the technology.

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These are the two aircrafts that we have approved through the FAA, the one on the left

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hand side of the screen carries about two and a half pounds, it weighs just under 12 pounds

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itself.

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Cruises it about 55 miles an hour, whereas the drone on the other hand side of the screen,

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the right-hand side, doubles in payload at about five pounds, weighs just under 18 pounds,

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cruises at 60 miles an hour, and they both have a range of 12 miles.

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So again, we're not looking to fulfill your entire grocery order today or deliver a TV

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on Black Friday.

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It's really for those convenient, one-off items.

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Now, with back to school, kicking off, we know that spirit weeks are going to be strong

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in the community, and I often hear from parents, my kid came home, and I need to tie

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I shirt, so they'll order it from the drone so they don't have to take another trip in an hour

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out of their day to go find that item.

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This is a video that shows not only the process of drone delivery, but also highlights where

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we would look to set up the site, which we call a nest.

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So you can see the fence, but what I really want to talk about is how the delivery actually works.

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So crew member will come out to pack the consumers good.

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The drone is already pre-programmed and identified how to get to that customer's house safely,

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and someone will come out, load the package onto the drone, where the package actually attaches

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into the underbelly of the drone, and then it climbs up to altitude. We typically fly at about 150 feet.

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We're cleared up to 400 feet with the FAA for our waivers, and the drone takes off as a chlorophyllized

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at about 60 miles an hour. Once it reaches its destination, the customers pre-determined deliveries

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zone, you can see the drone is starting to climb down to altitude

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about 20 feet, slowly retracts the tether with the package, and once the package touches

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the ground, it unhooks itself so you don't have to figure out how to interact with another

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technology. You keep the box, the drone flies back to the Walmart and it charges up and

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does it all over again for another customer order to come through.

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I mentioned this, safety

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is very paramount for wing. We hold our part 135 air carrier and we were the first

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operator to obtain or beyond visual line of site certification, as well as using UTM, an

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uncrewed traffic management system as well.

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Something what's really unique about our system is our pilots and command or picks as we

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call them.

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They're the ones that oversee the operations remotely, so this is exactly what your pick would

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be seeing when they would drop off or rather when the drone would come to fly to your house.

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They are not looking at the drone.

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there's not a live feed, they are managing airspace, whether everything else to ensure that

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the flight is healthy, safe, and the drone is ready to reliably get to the customer's

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house.

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Back to security and privacy, this is what our cameras or rather navigation lenses see for

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the drone, backup navigation lens downward pointed, black and gray scale, and what's really

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important for me to share here is there's no live feed and no images of anyone, including

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the certified pilots like I just mentioned. So this is rather used for that navigation in the event

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that the drone actually gets cut off on communication with us or if there's a temporary flight

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restriction that's put up through a drone as first responders program or even helicopter that's

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coming through. The drone will have a pre-identified place to land typically it's a tree because

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it's a pie out of the way and then it will land there and it will say, pilot, come find me and

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collect me so I can come home. And again, we'll take that tree because it's not on public

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right of way, not on a city street sidewalk, something of that nature.

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Next thing that comes up quite a bit is sound of the aircraft. We have two noise profiles.

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What you're seeing in the middle here, 43 decibels on average, this is when our drone is cruising

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at that 150 feet and you can see we're well under ambient suburban noise, which is generally

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clocked it about 50 decibels. On the right-hand side of the screen 60.62.6 decibels on average,

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this is when our drone is in that package delivery mode at the customer's house. We're

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there for no more than 60 seconds, and we're right in line with the delivery truck or car

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driving through a neighborhood street. Last thing really for me to mention is our community

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outreach program. Not only is this near and dear to us at wing, but also our partners at Walmart.

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We want to be embedded in the community and share more outside of this meeting and meet residents where they are.

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If it's a coffee with the mayor, coffee with council member, the local farmers market.

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I saw that you had just gone through a summer concert series.

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Any opportunity like that to meet with residents where they are already showing up at community events is a great opportunity for us to bring our

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and just start sharing about our product because there is a lot of misconception about drone right now.

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And there's a lot of information that we can get out before we start flying in the community.

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And then last thing is just the setup.

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You got to see this a little bit in the video.

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But this is a rendering of what it looks like at our Lantern Metro stores.

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We typically take up about 30 parking spaces in front of a Walmart store.

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or it's a six foot fence with a storage shed that is utilizes a garage for the drones to sleep

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in at night, and then our charge pads for the drones to physically charge on during the day.

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And then an install timeline, it takes us about seven days.

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It is a very quick process as well, but happy to answer any questions that you might have.

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Thank you again.

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Do we have any questions?

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Mr. Ratchford.

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So are you definitely coming to St. Charles? Is this just a consideration where you had on the timeline?

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We're currently having conversations. This is a community that we've identified with Walmart.

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We think it would be a great option for drone delivery, but this is part of the presentation as well.

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We want to have buy and rather than just coming to the community.

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And when you enter a market, how many stores do you usually land at?

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We think they're about 15 in the region, but it depends based on a few different parameters

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with where we can fly for airspace as well as Walmart.

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Okay, good.

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Thanks for the information.

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Of course.

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Mr. Goole.

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Thank you guys for the information there.

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Worth mentioning I was a FAA or draft control or my previous life and we have an F15 pilot in the audience.

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Back here, Air Force Academy of Veterans.

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So what is the, I know we're in a very close proximity to St. Louis International Air Base,

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which I believe is class beer class sea.

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Have you guys done any sort of research with that?

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Because I know when we want to do drone shows,

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like on the riverfront, that comes into play.

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Yes, great question.

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So to get a little bit more into that,

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and I'm happy to connect you with our airspace outreach manager, Josh as well.

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But that is really big for us, so we like to operate in mode C-Bales, so St. Louis being one of them and then 30 nautical miles around that large airport.

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38 of them in the United States.

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State's as you know, and for us it's easier to operate in the really high dense area of operations

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because everyone's swapping their signal out. So that's good for us. We have ADSB out on our aircraft as well.

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Thank you very much. I'll be consulting our pilot.

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Mr. Kyle.

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Thank you for the presentation. All the parts of our city have a lot of big trees, a lot of coverage.

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How do the drones navigate or handle that?

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Is that to those homes that come off limits?

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Or do they find the way around those trees?

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Yeah, great question.

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So before we go into a market, we'll collect all the light

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our data and basically identify what does your parcel of land

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look like versus my parcel of land versus her parcel of land,

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et cetera.

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And we really only need about a picnic blanket size space

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to make that delivery free of obstruction.

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So you might have a delivery zone in your front yard.

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It might be in your driveway.

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It could be on your side yard.

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It really just depends on what your physical land property looks like.

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And then because we're coming down at that 20 feet with the tether,

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that helps us as well with the area of opportunity for delivery.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Any other questions?

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Thank you guys so much for your presentation.

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Thank you.

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We look forward to learning more.

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And again, finding out additional information or your plans to enter into the market.

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We appreciate that very much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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public comment section.

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The public comment portion of the meeting is an opportunity for the City Council to listen

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to the comments.

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President, do we have an appointment memo for this evening?

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From the mayor.

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I think that's after public comment.

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Oh, sure as my apologies.

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Thank you.

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It is not a question and answer session, and the mayor and City Council will not respond

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to quite two comments, or answer questions during this period.

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The mayor or the City Council may refer any matter brought up to the director of

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administration or the city clerk if action is needed.

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Notification will sound with three minutes of the lapsed.

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All persons who desire to provide public comment shall complete the speakers card in its entirety.

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And presented to the city clerk prior to the scheduled start of our city council meeting.

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Madam Clerk.

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I have a couple of speakers tonight under public comment.

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The first one is Zach Welch.

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He is an owner of property located at 800 first capital.

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And he's here speaking relative to Council Bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 6 on the agenda tonight.

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But in exactly what I just recently found out about the bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 6.

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And I had some questions regarding, like, what is the plan for acquiring the properties along

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a version of the capital there?

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And I also saw that you're wanting to go from four lanes down to three.

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Why is that a little better?

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So I saw that you're wanting to acquire a property, but you're dropping it from four lanes down to three.

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So what's the need to extend out the easements into all these properties?

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And going from four lanes down to three, I'm not quite sure how that makes it any safer for anybody here on St. Charles.

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And it's also a truck route being Highway 94 that does make it harder for truckers

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something I used to do.

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When you make a road smaller, it doesn't make it any easier for those guys.

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We do have quite a few local businesses that do rely on semi-a-delivery or large truck.

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We're also growing.

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I know we have a bunch of developments that you guys are wanting to build a new town

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expanding that is one of the routes.

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I know places like Hackman, Lumber,

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they all use those, just, that's kind of what I got.

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Yeah, that's it.

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So

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thank you very much, sir.

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No, we appreciate your time.

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We'll gather your information.

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We'll certainly reach out to you

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to be able to address some of your individual questions.

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Thank you very much.

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Adam Clark?

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Yes, our next speaker is Arnie C. A. C. Honest Abe Dean Hough.

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He's a city county public advocate

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and he's here speaking relative to the library board

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and underage driving.

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Thank you very much Mr. President, members of the council.

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First of all, I'd like to say,

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coming this meeting was kind of startled once again.

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I drive a lot throughout St. Charles City

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and all across St. Charles County,

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but coming to this meeting,

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I saw a 12 to 14 year old male driving

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a small motorcycle.

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So I'm almost certain, probably 99% that they didn't have

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are required Missouri driver's license, and there have been a lot on your misses all across

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our county.

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We want to make sure that there's not a tragedy.

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These high powered high speed electric bikes, gas vehicles, mini motor cycles, pocket

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motor cycles you can't hardly see.

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Derbikes, motor cycles, um, underage driving, with no Missouri driver's license, no driver's

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training, it's about safety, accountability, responsibility and something needs to be done

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now before a tragedy hits the community and a police officer has to go to that family

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store, knock on that door and tell their parents about the accident that happened. I would

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like the City Council to direct staff to establish a workable, sensible and police enforceable

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ordinance by making parents accountable and responsible for these high-powered vehicles that

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go 20, 30, 40, and more miles per hour.

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Something needs to be done like the other communities throughout our county.

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The next issue is the City County Public Library District.

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Tax abatement, chapter 100, giving away corporate welfare, tax incentives has got to come

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to an end.

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When city staff negotiates, I would ask you to exempt the library district for not getting the growth and the reduced income.

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Make sure that the library district gets 100% anticipated taxes after all capital improvements are built and the assessment goes on the tax rolls by the county.

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Board appointments, I was here at the last meeting and we talked about this.

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I'm making a public information request to receive the written determination and ruling of the city attorney about this issue.

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Chapter 182.291 needs to be adhered to as there is no change in state law.

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I would ask that the city council make a reconsideration of the city attorney's decision and do the right thing in this case.

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If not, I can challenge at Rida Main Damis and ask our County Circuit Court for judicial review.

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I believe that the once-full appointment of a once-full citizen to the Library City County Public Library District Board of Trustees is highly illegal.

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Under the law, there is no significant order.

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Public case law, specifically litigating or altering the statutory appointment process

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to the city council. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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No further public comment speakers.

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Thank you, Madam Clerk.

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To the report of the mayor.

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Thank you.

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I'm going to wave my report tonight and

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consideration of the number of people who have it in between.

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I do have some appointments.

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I have an appointment to the Parks and Recreation Board.

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Mr. Paul Jokers, who will be filling the vacant position,

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firmly held by Tim Gloser for a term expiring May 2029 and the appointment of Missy Palach who

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will be filling the vacant position of firmly held by Sandy Buckle for a term expiring May

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May 2027 and for the Senior Citizens Advisory Commission, the reappointment of Shelley Roy,

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whose term would expire August 2026 for another term expiring August 29 and the reappointment

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Mr. Allender.

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Now I'd like to make a motion to approve the appointment of the

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dated August 6th, 2026.

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Okay.

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Okay, a motion in a second.

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Roll call just in Faust.

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Michael Galba.

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Brian Gold.

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Bart Hayberstrow.

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Hi.

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Mark Hollander.

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Steve Hollander.

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Chris Kyle.

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Denise Mitchell.

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Hi.

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Vince Bradchford.

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Hi.

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Tom Brooney.

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All right.

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That passes.

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No further report, Mr. Mayor.

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No sir, that's complete.

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Thank you.

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Announcements from Council members. Do we have any this evening? Mr. Kyle.

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Yeah, a few events going on in Ward 1, a music on Maine tomorrow night. Uh, five to seven

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30. Uh, of course, Festival Little Hills is this weekend. Uh, I'm going on, I guess Friday through Sunday.

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Uh, which is going to move the State Charles Market to French Town. So if you're looking for the

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Street, between is that brain bridge and Howard. Very good. Thank you. And then also

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reminder that August 26th, 6 o'clock, we have the Eden Village Town Hall Foundry,

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where we'll be discussing an opportunity to bring in a, bring in the Eden Village to

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help our homeless, some of that Mayor Borgmarge has been working hard on and is going to

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help explain that and get the word up to the community. So thank you for that.

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Mr. Rashford. Two quick callouts on city staff. We had a couple of issues in Ward 3. We had

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some paint across walk and some lane striping that needed to be refreshed. Staff got out

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and took care of that quickly. We also had a no parking zone that was not signed, but should

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have been. Staff also came out and took care of that. So, Mr. DeBrosky, thanks to the director

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and the staff members who did that. Thank you. Mr. Goole.

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Yeah, piggyback on that, Mr. Redford with the city staff, we got some correspondence this week from our city administrator, Larry de Broski, our city staff had taken up a pretty large task of raising money as you're aware.

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What was that a few months ago when we were going through a little bit of a crunch there when we were going through a food shortage and stuff.

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of the team and the city hall and the prison over $100,000, 15 of that was recently donated

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to the care services of St. Jokemonan. That's gone to a new freezer. And in their correspondence

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back to us, it says your generosity provides a foundation of hope for over 4,000 people in

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our community. So as you go around the city of St. Charles and the city hall, you see things

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say we are STC or STC proud. This defines that. Thank you, Mr. Browsky, thank you for the work

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and thank you to all the city staff who's helped.

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Any further comments?

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Okay, we can move on to our public hearing.

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Public hearings are an opportunity for the City Council

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to listen to input about a particular topic or item being considered by the council.

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It is not a question and answer session and the City Council will not respond to comments

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or answer questions during this period.

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A notification will sound when five minutes have elapsed.

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All persons speaking at a public hearing shall complete a speaker's card in its entirety

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and presented to the City Clerk prior to the scheduled start of the City Council meeting.

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Madam Clerk.

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Yeah, the very first public hearing is case number Z-2026-19 for back-sengineering.

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As noted on the agenda, this application was tabled at the July 13th,

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26 planning and zoning commission meeting until the August 10th, 2026 planning and zoning

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commission meeting.

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Therefore, I would entertain a motion to hold this public hearing open on case

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number Z-202619 open until your September 1, 2026 regular city council meeting.

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No move.

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Mr. Burton.

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Second.

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Rolkha, Michael Galba, Brian Gold, Bart Hayberströ, Mark Collender, Steve Hollander,

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Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell, Vince Ratchford, Tom Brooney, and Justin Bows, that passes.

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Next is case number Z-2026-13, Mike Burkhard B. E. Designing Management.

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As noted on your agenda, this application was tabled at the July 13, 2026 planning and zoning

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commission meeting until the August 10th, 2026 planning and zoning commission meeting.

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Again, retain a motion tonight then to hold this public hearing on case number Z-2026

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13 open until the September 1, 2026 regular city council meeting.

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Don't move. Second.

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Right. Second and a roll of call. Brian Gold.

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Bart Haberstrow. Mark Hollander.

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Steve Hollander. Chris Kyle. Denise Mitchell.

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I then scratch for Tom Brooney. Justin Faust and Michael Galba.

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Right.

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Next up is Case Z-2026-14.

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Larson development LLC. This is an application for the annexation and establishment of zoning

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of an overall 5.75 acre more or less, tract of land located at 17.04 Mughi Road from county

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R1E single family residential district to city R-1E single family residential district. The

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subject property will be located in Ward 5 upon annexation and that's referencing council

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the 1, 4, 1, 2, 3 on your agenda, which there was a supplemental RCA attached.

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Good evening, Council.

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Mayor, as you recall, from last council meeting there were a number of items this project was associated with.

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Associated with a development on Mugie Road.

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This is the first bill out of four.

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Associated with that, that is for the establishment of zoning via an annexation.

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The request on this particular item was to take from county R1E standards to the city,

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are one of these standards associated with the annexation.

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This item was tabled at the last meeting to do some design requests from Council concerning

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the development on one of the later applications.

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We'll talk about here in a moment.

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But this item is back on for public hearing and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have on this one.

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Any questions?

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I have several on this item. First up is Charlie Pellant and he is here speaking relative to KC-2026-14.

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Thank you for letting me speak to this evening. First of all, thank you for a lot of correspondence.

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to go back and forth. And for those gentlemen and those

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and ladies that responded back to us, we appreciated for those

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that didn't, we hope we were able to read what we sent.

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Ms. Mitchell, thank you.

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You responded to every one of our messages.

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Our emails, our correspondence, and we sent.

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What I want to do really is we've spoke about this numerous times.

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And the new development really affects Hampton Place Court

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more than it does in the other development that is because it

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directly up to us. And what I want to do is I want to just try to throw a light a little bit

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light on the development compared to Hampton Place. Hampton Place Court is on 5.5 acres.

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There's 12 units, 12 units, 24 homes. Each one of the homes are solely owned, owner occupied.

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No rentals, we have a board of directors that is a poignant and I'll let it buy the members of the housing, the people that live in the community.

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Comparing that to the new development that's proposed, we are 5.5 acres, 12 units, 24 homes.

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The new development is 8.3 acres, they want to put in 25 units, 50 homes, 50 homes.

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I don't know how they're going to be able to squeeze twice as many homes into a plot that

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is maybe two and a half acres, two and a half acres bigger than what Hampton Places.

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Hampton Places Court, if we went to open a lemonade stand, we wouldn't have the room,

460
00:31:59,810 --> 00:32:01,490
we wouldn't even have the room to do that.

461
00:32:01,490 --> 00:32:04,070
I mean, that's how tight we are.

462
00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:09,110
So I just don't understand how they're going to get all those homes into that small

463
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:09,570
of an area.

464
00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:11,250
It's a beautiful development.

465
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:18,050
It's just in the wrong place we think for what they're trying to do.

466
00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:22,750
They have been very accommodating to us to large and people that they've met with us several

467
00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:23,270
times.

468
00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:26,530
And some of our biggest concerns were the dog park.

469
00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:27,990
We didn't want to dog park back.

470
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:34,530
obviously backing up to our property, they agreed to move to Dog Park, but when they moved to

471
00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:38,910
Dog Park, they talked about an area where the Dog Park was supposed to be, it was going

472
00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:40,230
to be common ground.

473
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:46,150
It was going to be landscape, it was going to be trees and shrubs placed in there, and

474
00:32:46,150 --> 00:32:49,530
quoting what Larsson people said, we're going to make it better than it was before.

475
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:54,950
If you look at the new plot that they just developed, they moved to driveway.

476
00:32:54,950 --> 00:33:03,250
So that area where the dog park was supposed to be a squeeze two more houses in there, two more units in there, and then talking about moving the driveway

477
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:11,840
They want to move it up. I don't know how many feet that is may. I don't be from where it is to where they want to where they want to move it

478
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,080
I think that's going to create more issues and more problems in a while

479
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,620
That way you've got Hampton place

480
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:18,360
You've got

481
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,060
The new set of isn't stone loss. Maybe 200 feet both trying to enter and enter

482
00:33:25,460 --> 00:33:30,060
I don't have a traffic study, but I'd be willing to bet that Muggy Road is one of the

483
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:39,940
busiest roads commuter roads in St. Charles. It's a cut-through between I-70 from I-70

484
00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:47,040
to be able to get to 364 and 94, so it's extremely busy. I just don't know that it can handle

485
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,780
more traffic.

486
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:58,780
They talked about the boundary line. Our houses back up to common ground and a

487
00:33:58,780 --> 00:34:04,140
wooded area. When we bought those homes, that was an added expense for us so we could have.

488
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:09,960
So we had common ground behind us. They agreed to us what they were going to do is that they were

489
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,520
going to start their property line or new construction anywhere between 15 to 20 feet farther back

490
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,320
of the property line so we can maintain that shrubbery,

491
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,980
which was fine with us.

492
00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:24,100
My problem is, I don't believe them.

493
00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:25,900
Because once they get a hold of that property,

494
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,960
they can do whatever they want to do and what are you going to do.

495
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,760
There's nothing you can do once it's there

496
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,140
as they can do what they want to do.

497
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,660
I mean, they can come up with any excuse and well

498
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:36,220
that we had to do it for this reason.

499
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,380
We had to do it for that reason.

500
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,840
So I just am very concerned about that.

501
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:55,110
The driveway also, you get two dryways that are very close to each other, and I think that creates a real traffic.

502
00:34:55,390 --> 00:35:01,290
In fact, I know of two people in Hampton Play's Court that have been re-rendered on New Yorky Road because of the hill,

503
00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:08,530
cresting the hill when you press the hill and you stop to make a left-hand turn. It's very easy for somebody to

504
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:17,010
Took to revenge you. I mean, it's just simple. I know two people that that's happened to you know, we've expressed that concern

505
00:35:17,010 --> 00:35:22,730
I mean, there's nothing else and we can say we spoke and kiss her. I appreciate it. Okay, I just one more quick thing

506
00:35:23,370 --> 00:35:26,190
I'm sorry to show you time has expired. I don't think that was apologize

507
00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:34,130
The agenda 7, 5 minutes, 11 minutes.

508
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,260
All right.

509
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:37,920
Yes.

510
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Our next speaker is Bill Notten.

511
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:44,260
He's also here speaking relative to KC-2026-14.

512
00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:54,840
Thank you.

513
00:35:55,460 --> 00:35:56,340
So, sorry for the delay.

514
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,260
I'm about.

515
00:35:57,580 --> 00:35:58,080
No worries.

516
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,240
Thank you for the microphone here.

517
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,460
Good morning, sir.

518
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,140
I'm just fine.

519
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,560
I have three items of focus to speak about.

520
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:10,660
The first is rental properties versus single family homes.

521
00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:18,540
I'd venture to say that this specific area of St. Charles has not maxed out in accommodating upscale single-family subdivisions.

522
00:36:19,540 --> 00:36:23,860
These subdivisions bring long-term security and sustenance to a community.

523
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:31,620
Once rental properties start to encroach upon an area, single-family subdivisions, division developers,

524
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:38,700
I would say, look elsewhere, the slide in this case becomes exponential in my opinion.

525
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:46,820
Single family subdivisions need to be focused upon in this area of St. Charles, and incentivize for long-term areas stability.

526
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:54,420
I think the American dream is still to own a home, and I think that should be our area of focus here.

527
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:01,380
My next item of focus is road safety on Muggy Road specifically.

528
00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:08,260
I don't know if you're all familiar with this specific stretch of Muggy Road, but this is,

529
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:14,640
let's say the quarter mile coming off right off of the paid extension and coming down the hill towards Greatstone.

530
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:23,820
So Muggy Road continues to grow and it's overused as it got through from paid the paid extension to Mexico and to Highway 70.

531
00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:34,820
Even with an entrance change in this regard further south, the rush hour traffic, it coming off a page, is that a volume that is just hard to comprehend, and let's just see it.

532
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:46,600
My wife and I avoid making a left at Graystone, where we live at these times, even with a traffic light there, and the left turn line to accommodate that.

533
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:58,260
Well, we'll go up and turn at a earlier stop, so we don't, we can avoid this rush hour traffic in the traffic that's the chaos that's there.

534
00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:09,080
Driver's turning left at this entrance with no, at the entrance to this new complex with no traffic light, if you can imagine that, no traffic light or a left turning lane.

535
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,900
Well, back up cars, well-north of Graystone, and generally caused chaos.

536
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,380
Accidents can and should be expected, in my opinion.

537
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,960
Please bear in mind that 200 rental units are also being built at Muggy Road, and at old

538
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,400
94, right, across from the Walgreens there, and this is just up to the block.

539
00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:32,360
Traffic chaos is going to be the new norm in this location.

540
00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:36,920
And then my next item was privacy.

541
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:44,400
With many mature trees being destroyed due to this project, the natural barrier they provide will be eliminated.

542
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:59,620
The proposed new six-foot trees that are going to be put around the perimeter will not suffice for this purpose or privacy as they will take years to grow and they will not give us what we have now for many years to come if ever.

543
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:07,000
So, and that is, that's, those are the three points I had at one in the mix, so I thank you.

544
00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:08,040
Thank you, Mr. Dalton.

545
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Okay.

546
00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:18,540
Our next speaker is John Black, and he is here speaking relative to this application in the

547
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:19,560
Muggy Larson development.

548
00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:27,510
Thank you, Council.

549
00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:30,510
I appreciate you having me again.

550
00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:39,830
I spoke with Aaron at Planning and Zoning today, and part of the reason

551
00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:53,270
that Larson wanted R3, instead of R2, is because R2 only would allow for 44 units in that space.

552
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:58,890
R3 allows for 50, just 100 cars.

553
00:39:59,630 --> 00:40:02,310
The traffic is going to be awful.

554
00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:09,790
Spring mill estate has 200 homes, one way in, one way out.

555
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:12,730
Bogey Hills has two entrances.

556
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:17,850
One is Burley Camp, which hardly anybody uses there by the church.

557
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:20,230
And, you get your road.

558
00:40:20,770 --> 00:40:21,890
It's very crowded.

559
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:27,050
Luckily, in Bogey, where I live, they have a fifth lane,

560
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:33,690
turning away, where this development is going to be, there will be no turning away.

561
00:40:34,350 --> 00:40:41,430
The traffic, if you go through there and drive, the traffic is horrendous in the morning

562
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:49,850
and in the late afternoon, I'm concerned about my wife driving myself, my children, to

563
00:40:49,850 --> 00:41:00,750
from our house, it's just so much traffic, and one last thing, not to scare anybody, but

564
00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:09,290
lawsuits are the norm these days with huge settlements in the multi millions of dollars.

565
00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:16,990
And God forbid, somebody gets killed pulling in or out of this new arson development.

566
00:41:18,250 --> 00:41:21,130
are maimed, can't walk anymore.

567
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:29,770
There could be a multi-million dollar suit against the city, since all of these traffic concerns

568
00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:37,430
have been raised over and over and over and to just ignore your constituents.

569
00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:41,930
There's only two people farthest, the seller and the developer.

570
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:49,310
Everyone else in this room, the homeowners are against it because we know how much traffic

571
00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:52,690
there is. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Black.

572
00:41:57,980 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker is Sue Gloser and she's here speaking relative to KC-2026-14 the

573
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,460
Larson development.

574
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Hello, my name is Sue Gloser.

575
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:57,170
Hello, I'm sorry. My name is Sue Gloser.

576
00:42:57,170 --> 00:43:10,130
I'm here to voice my opposition to the proposed stone mill, stone moss villas, overwhelmingly the people in this area have spoken and do not want this development to go forward.

577
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:17,610
You all get to vote on this and forget about it. The people in New York neighborhoods will live with it forever.

578
00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:23,830
Please listen to the citizens you represent and vote no on this project.

579
00:43:23,830 --> 00:43:31,850
As a Grandmother, I have young grandchildren on New Year Road, and I am concerned very concerned for their safety.

580
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:39,230
It has always been a busy road, but the connection to 365 has had serious effects.

581
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:43,010
It went from being a virtual highway to an actual one.

582
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:51,110
Please don't allow 50 runaway units in the area to further expand the problem.

583
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:52,250
Thank you.

584
00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:54,470
Thank you for the disclosure.

585
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:05,660
Here is Dave Lampert, and he is here speaking relative to 7C, Larson Development.

586
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:09,290
Good evening, Council.

587
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:11,390
Thank you for listening.

588
00:44:13,930 --> 00:44:21,090
With all the people that have complained or are opposed to this, I would agree with most

589
00:44:21,090 --> 00:44:24,390
of all of the issues that everyone has raised.

590
00:44:24,670 --> 00:44:26,510
Traffic is obviously going to be a problem.

591
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:34,070
I've lived at 40 Hampton Plays Court for about eight months now, so I'm new to the area.

592
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:41,170
I moved in there with the understanding that it would kind of stay the way it is.

593
00:44:42,270 --> 00:44:49,670
And behind me is a detention pond, which works very well.

594
00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:53,310
And I guess my biggest concern with this development is the water.

595
00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:59,970
I know the max with Lars and his told us that he's done the sewer, head sewer up.

596
00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:25,010
Work done so that they can kind of see what needs to be done there, and that it will be better than it is, but where I came from, I had flooding all the time in my home, and I had MSD at my house at least once a year, and I got the same answer every time. It's not their problem, it's the heavy rains.

597
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:35,390
Well, the heavy rains are great, if you can't avoid them, but the more you put the more

598
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:42,050
you put hard property down, the more you're going to have problems with water and where

599
00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:43,090
it's going to go.

600
00:45:44,310 --> 00:45:51,710
So my concern is will the sewers hold the water that's going to be produced and it's kind

601
00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:58,570
But there's no guarantee, so if we end up with water, then nobody's going to take a responsibility

602
00:45:58,570 --> 00:45:59,210
for that.

603
00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:04,130
It's going to be on the homeowner that's going to have to deal with these issues.

604
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:07,170
Again, I'm opposed.

605
00:46:07,810 --> 00:46:09,470
I agree with all the other issues.

606
00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:11,930
I think the traffic is going to be rough.

607
00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:17,070
It's going to be terrible if this development goes in.

608
00:46:17,650 --> 00:46:33,330
The rental is an issue but again for me I think one of my biggest concerns is is the water that that I don't know where it's going to go and and if there's no guarantees then I'm you know, I'm not going to I'm I'm going to be opposed to that.

609
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:43,350
Also, just to reiterate that these are the communities that have opposed this area.

610
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:50,670
It's the Hampton Place area, the Sugar Mill area, Bogey Hills area, and the Die Camp area.

611
00:46:52,050 --> 00:47:02,370
If you vote yes, it will be just disrespectful to all the established residents and with an outsider who has no obligation to the city of St. Charles.

612
00:47:03,790 --> 00:47:05,870
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Lepard.

613
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:15,220
Speaker is Arnie C. A. C. Honest. A. Dean Hoff. He's a city county public advocate and

614
00:47:15,220 --> 00:47:19,780
speaking relative to 7 C. The application 2026-14.

615
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:26,620
Thank you very much Mr. President, members of the council. My public testimony and comments

616
00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:31,740
applied to all three actually, 14, 15, and 16 with the Larson Development.

617
00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:38,300
You know, folks, it's about sensible and responsible development and growth.

618
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:42,540
If you look at various parts of our county, there have been a call

619
00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:48,180
and a huge key to device from residents about limiting

620
00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:56,100
developing, promoting or proving smart growth and responsible growth that is going to

621
00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:04,720
play havoc on adjoining neighborhoods on traffic or on M4 or retention detention issues.

622
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:13,040
First of all, the zoning intensity is way out of proportion, especially with the 50 townhomes

623
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:18,060
or villas, not sure what they're mentioning them and several documents they mentioned, town

624
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:19,980
homes and then they call them villas.

625
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,980
M4 State and city requirements over at the forefront with this issue as a former as

626
00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:30,260
the previous speaker testified just a moment ago.

627
00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:37,140
The city has been experiencing, especially in June and July, 100, 200, 100, 100,000 year

628
00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:38,160
flood events.

629
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,440
The city has been experiencing these.

630
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:50,280
I believe this development being dense and giving special disposition to the developer

631
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:56,080
is putting additional pressure on adjoining neighborhoods when it comes to erosion control,

632
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,440
retention and detention.

633
00:48:58,780 --> 00:49:04,040
The small five family of villas or town homes, as I said, they're stated different definitions

634
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,200
and different documents within the City Council packet.

635
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:17,840
They're trying to stop a lot of buildings on this 14.14 acres combined between the two parcels.

636
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:19,760
It's a way too much development.

637
00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:29,680
In my opinion, it's misuse of the City codified ordinances, providing for PD zoning, planned development zoning.

638
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:39,820
In essence, it's giving it free pass or more units and a ridiculous free pass to the ever-going

639
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:47,980
profits of the developer while citizens will suffer for traffic volume, quality of life,

640
00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:55,840
and why the bank question of the council is, why do developers always have to have the power

641
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:58,640
and be in control in the driver's seat?

642
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,480
They're not in the driver's seat, you ten people are responsible to the citizens behind

643
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,960
me, and to all the citizens of the city.

644
00:50:08,020 --> 00:50:14,360
It's unfortunately as all come down to the old mighty dollar and the old mighty prophet trying

645
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:21,440
to cram as many homes as many town homes as many villas as it possibly can get away with,

646
00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:25,980
while a joining neighborhood's have to suffer with those consequences.

647
00:50:25,980 --> 00:50:27,220
There

648
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:36,090
needs to be a breaks foot on this development and on this application.

649
00:50:36,970 --> 00:50:44,550
There needs to be a really downed earth debate and asking information by each council member.

650
00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:50,250
There needs to be provided much more information, data, research, and there has to be

651
00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:56,230
serious and deep down humble and truthful conversations between the council which hardly

652
00:50:56,230 --> 00:51:02,510
happens and it happens behind closed doors rather than in the open under chapter 610 of the

653
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:03,690
Open Meetings Act.

654
00:51:05,850 --> 00:51:10,250
I'm tired of the City Council not listening to outside special

655
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:15,830
interest group, especially from developers and the Eastern Missouri Home Builders Association

656
00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:21,670
and the St. Charles County Realtor Political Action Committee, which unfortunately is donated

657
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:25,330
to several of your city council campaigns.

658
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:31,190
We see and know where the big donor and large donations are coming from in city council

659
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:32,590
election campaigns.

660
00:51:34,170 --> 00:51:36,810
I think it's high time that you put the breaks on this development.

661
00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:38,610
They're asking too much.

662
00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:41,090
They're trying to bite too much off the apple.

663
00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:47,450
And it's unfortunate that this council is letting this type of development happen at a very

664
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:51,730
urban, very already dense neighborhood area.

665
00:51:52,330 --> 00:51:55,550
I think you need to take into account what this is going to do

666
00:51:55,550 --> 00:51:57,730
and have the effect on the quality of life,

667
00:51:58,270 --> 00:52:01,610
on the effect of residents who have invested in these neighborhoods,

668
00:52:02,370 --> 00:52:05,170
in the erosion control, the retention detention,

669
00:52:05,410 --> 00:52:06,590
especially with the floods.

670
00:52:07,170 --> 00:52:10,370
I believe one city council member, I believe it was Mr. Rattford,

671
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:13,750
stated that there's one home in St. Charles of Flooded,

672
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:17,010
at least two times within a week period.

673
00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:19,030
and that's very serious consideration.

674
00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:21,550
I'm against this development.

675
00:52:21,830 --> 00:52:22,670
Thank you, Mr. President.

676
00:52:23,350 --> 00:52:24,170
Thank you, Mr. D. health.

677
00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:29,580
All right. Next up is Katherine Moore.

678
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,280
She's here representing the applicant,

679
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,380
Larson Development,

680
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:35,180
and speaking relative to this item,

681
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:36,500
but I believe she's going to go ahead

682
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:39,160
and take this time to speak relative to D&E

683
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,680
on the agenda as well.

684
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:00,640
Okay.

685
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,880
Good evening, members of the council.

686
00:53:11,140 --> 00:53:12,960
Mr. Mayor, my name is Katherine Moore.

687
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,020
I was here at the last public hearing.

688
00:53:15,020 --> 00:53:16,680
and this is a continued public hearing.

689
00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:20,580
So I will try to briefly, briefly, do a recap,

690
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,220
and then more speak to what we've done

691
00:53:22,220 --> 00:53:23,880
since the last public hearing

692
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:25,800
in moving this project forward.

693
00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:28,080
So as everyone knows,

694
00:53:28,180 --> 00:53:32,200
Stone Moss Villas is intended to be a luxury villa community

695
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,280
that is 100% consistent with the residential nature

696
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,320
of Mugie Road and the development

697
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,640
sought in the comprehensive plan of the city of St. Charles.

698
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:53,780
Larson Development has an excellent reputation, and even some of the public speakers who are opposed to this project have complemented our group on our willingness to work with neighboring property owners

699
00:53:53,780 --> 00:54:00,820
and complemented our group on the aesthetics of our communities that have seen in line and potentially in person as well.

700
00:54:00,820 --> 00:54:07,340
The tenants that are going to be targeted for Stone Moss Villas are unique tenants, they're not

701
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:13,900
apartment tenants. They are tenants who want to be a part of a community, want maintenance-free,

702
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:20,660
luxury living with open floor plans, modern features, their professionals, their empty nesters,

703
00:54:20,980 --> 00:54:27,700
who for whatever reasons that they're allowed to have are choosing not to be homeowners at that moment.

704
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:35,060
Travel, flexibility, professional moves, many things, leads someone to be one of these high-end

705
00:54:35,060 --> 00:54:36,840
renters for this community.

706
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,360
The homes are all going to be of high value as we discussed at the last public hearing,

707
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:47,340
and they will not in any way less in property values.

708
00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:53,820
These are individually plated, single family lots, just like any other villa community in

709
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:54,340
the city.

710
00:54:54,340 --> 00:55:06,660
The exterior elevations, however, and the interior finishes are going to be top of the line high-end finishes and features as has been seen in your packets and detailed in the staff report.

711
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:18,780
Further, with third party property management and maintenance companies in charge of Larson developments, they look pristine.

712
00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:21,700
They will be maintained in a uniform,

713
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,760
top of its class fashion throughout.

714
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:28,080
So this will be one of the most attractive communities

715
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,160
in the city of sea Charles.

716
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,440
Because it will always be uniformly maintained by one company

717
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,440
doing the maintenance.

718
00:55:36,940 --> 00:55:39,660
And that is what these residents are going to be looking for.

719
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,300
There's community rules that limit what can be done,

720
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,480
what can be in the yard, no fences, no pools,

721
00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:47,740
no playground equipment.

722
00:55:47,740 --> 00:55:58,100
And that's for the landscapers, the moors, the irrigation company, that will be taking care of the community to allow that uniform, high-end aesthetic look.

723
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:05,620
Stone Moss Villas will allow current residents in St. Charles, who are wanting to get rid of their mortgage again.

724
00:56:05,860 --> 00:56:14,320
For whatever reason they may have, or increase their living space in one of these large village units without taking on alone.

725
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:34,100
There is a place for current residents, it's stone moss fillers, but there's also an opportunity to attract professionals, empty nesters, and other lifestyle occupants to this community, to this development, to this city, to shop in the city, to become part of the city, to volunteer in the city.

726
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:38,600
This is not some sort of transient, lower-end environment.

727
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,740
This is a high-end luxury villa community

728
00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:45,080
on single-family residential lots that is being proposed.

729
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,980
Here is the color version of the plan I know you've received.

730
00:56:49,580 --> 00:56:52,500
Since our last public hearing, there was discussion

731
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:56,000
from the city's engineering staff about the potential

732
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,020
to move the access point off of Mugi Road to a different location.

733
00:57:01,020 --> 00:57:14,040
And the purpose was to increase sight distance on Mughi because there was discussion of the size of the road of the amount of traffic anticipated one day on Mughi.

734
00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:20,020
It's not there yet. Mughi was built to be a 40,000 car a day road according to your city engineer.

735
00:57:21,260 --> 00:57:30,400
So that access point was changed to think about future situations to think about this meeting and the sight distance safety that's needed now.

736
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:37,760
And now it has been conclusively reviewed by the city staff, the city engineers, city planning department,

737
00:57:38,620 --> 00:57:41,880
and it exceeds the city standards and is deemed safe.

738
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,260
And I like this exhibit because you see the new access point, you see the new plantings,

739
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,180
and all of the dark green areas on the borders.

740
00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:52,180
That's preserved vegetation.

741
00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:56,940
There is a lot of tree preservation here, especially along all of the borders.

742
00:57:56,940 --> 00:58:01,620
and that was something we did after meeting with the neighbors and the landscaping package.

743
00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:06,280
Well, result in hundreds of new trees and bushes beautifying the site.

744
00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:15,620
Traffic and safety was the biggest discussion point tonight so far public comment and at the first public hearing.

745
00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:25,080
So to run through that, the revised plan with the alternative access point on Muggy Road meets the city code.

746
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:31,820
It also meets the review criteria of your city's engineering department, who said it is a

747
00:58:31,820 --> 00:58:34,920
it exceeds site distance needed for this development.

748
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:41,860
An outside traffic consultant, lock-mular group, submitted that traffic assessment for

749
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:49,960
this project, that provided and concluded using current statistics and traffic engineering

750
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:57,200
data that this project will have no meaningful impact on the traffic on Muggy Road.

751
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,980
And then after reviewing that assessment and reviewing the data, your city staff agreed

752
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:12,240
with them. Muggy Road is built to withstand traffic. And this 50 home community will not

753
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:18,780
impact what Muggy Road has been built for. And that is for development expansion for access

754
00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:21,380
from page, all of the things that we've heard from residents.

755
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,900
And this small village community will in no way

756
00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:29,280
have a significant impact barely any whatsoever

757
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,480
on Muggy Road's current traffic counts,

758
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,600
according to every engineer, and I'm not an engineer.

759
00:59:35,140 --> 00:59:38,380
But every engineer at the city and with the outside consultants

760
00:59:38,380 --> 00:59:39,920
agrees on that point.

761
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:43,640
City staff recommended that that entrance

762
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,020
may move for site distance alone, not for traffic counts

763
00:59:48,460 --> 00:59:54,140
traffic, safety, it had met the code, but because it could be better. So we relocated it to make it better.

764
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,980
We want this to be the best possible luxury community. We're also eliminating the three existing...

765
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:17,140
I've always on Mugie and a one-road built to city specifications. And that's really important. Right now, there's three different entrances where cars can access. Given their single family homes, I acknowledge that. But now, we have a full city-spec roadway that will connect to Mugie.

766
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:25,260
Stone Moss Villas will have safe and efficient access, not causing a danger to the community,

767
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:31,860
or to the existing traffic patterns on Muggy Road and accordance with staff's conclusions.

768
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,100
And we agree with them wholeheartedly.

769
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:40,460
And no other sort of recommendations have been advised to accommodate this community.

770
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,180
Again, it is considered to be a small residential community.

771
01:00:45,590 --> 01:00:53,830
There was some discussion at the last public hearing about land use about the zoning classification and what's really going on here.

772
01:00:54,170 --> 01:01:03,790
So I just need to clarify that this is a single family residential development on individually platted lots like any residential development.

773
01:01:04,050 --> 01:01:10,970
This is not a condo. This is not an apartment. It does not meet the definition of multi-family land use under the city's code.

774
01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:18,910
So, hypothetically, in the future, should something change, these lots will, on day one,

775
01:01:19,210 --> 01:01:22,230
after they're plated, be scalable as individual lots.

776
01:01:22,330 --> 01:01:24,250
These are not compounded in any way.

777
01:01:24,530 --> 01:01:29,050
These are not duplexes, they don't share a lot, they don't share ground.

778
01:01:29,610 --> 01:01:34,330
So this is a single family residential development per the city's code.

779
01:01:34,890 --> 01:01:43,390
Our three A was recommended to us by city staff and I saw that there was a supplemental memo from the planning department about that.

780
01:01:43,730 --> 01:01:47,650
And that was because this isn't a duplex community and it's not an apartment community.

781
01:01:47,810 --> 01:01:56,230
It is a single family community and that was the zoning code and classification that's been used most recently for villas in the city.

782
01:01:56,770 --> 01:02:01,030
And I have a map that I will pull up here in a second to show you that.

783
01:02:01,030 --> 01:02:08,470
Density, here, is lower than many of the residential communities up and along Muggy Road, and lower

784
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:15,350
than numerous Villa communities and townhom communities that have been approved recently by the City Council

785
01:02:15,350 --> 01:02:21,750
and recommended by the Planning and Zoning Commission. So this is of lower density than similarly

786
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:29,750
created recent projects. This meets the city's code for planned development. There's 26%

787
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:34,830
and ground. And that was to cushion the site from the neighbors. There's lots of

788
01:02:34,830 --> 01:02:37,990
common ground. There's lots of landscaping. There's lots of tree preservation.

789
01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:42,730
And it is buffered effectively. And those are all common ground areas.

790
01:02:43,350 --> 01:02:47,010
Or I'm sorry, those are all areas that will be maintained by the property owner.

791
01:02:47,710 --> 01:02:53,670
So this open space element is why plant district zoning exists in the first place.

792
01:02:53,670 --> 01:03:01,650
is to allow for clustered green spaces to exist as buffers and to make that a community amenity.

793
01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:07,710
There's amenities included the dog park, the pavilion, there's all those new trees, sidewalks

794
01:03:07,710 --> 01:03:13,050
on both sides of the street, the new city street, and safe and efficient planning and land use

795
01:03:13,050 --> 01:03:17,490
has been included in the project plan for this luxury village community.

796
01:03:17,490 --> 01:03:27,050
Here is a map showing the PDR and R3A. In the area, right around this site, this has been

797
01:03:27,050 --> 01:03:34,090
how development along Mugin, this direct vicinity, has been progressing. So not going

798
01:03:34,090 --> 01:03:40,270
with R3A and not doing a plan district for this particular site would have actually been inconsistent

799
01:03:40,270 --> 01:03:46,150
with recent staff recommendations and recent planning and zoning commission decisions

800
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:48,330
and recent city council decisions.

801
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:55,310
This is cohesive and consistent with what is in this direct vicinity, and it's in line with

802
01:03:55,310 --> 01:03:59,490
the growth plans that have been coming forward from the use of the city's zoning code and

803
01:03:59,490 --> 01:04:00,690
the comprehensive plan.

804
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:07,190
And some of the communities that have similar densities, similar development patterns, similar

805
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:12,350
zoning, Hampton Place, Spring Oak, St. Charles Cross Crossing, Central Park, Hawthorne

806
01:04:12,350 --> 01:04:15,150
Grove, Oakley Place, and there's more.

807
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:17,690
And these are all detailed in your staff report.

808
01:04:19,170 --> 01:04:23,110
So, as part of coming here to planning a zoning commission,

809
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:26,530
and then to the first public hearing before the council and now here,

810
01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:29,610
we have done so much outreach,

811
01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:32,310
and I think you've heard in the public comments that the neighbors

812
01:04:32,990 --> 01:04:34,290
don't complain to that.

813
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:35,130
We've made changes.

814
01:04:35,370 --> 01:04:37,070
We've relocated that dog part.

815
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:40,530
Increased tree preservation by lessening the grading limits

816
01:04:40,530 --> 01:04:42,230
along the borders of this site.

817
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:46,470
We relocated that access point on Mughe, which is the only adjacent road.

818
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:48,770
It's the only road that can provide access to this site.

819
01:04:49,030 --> 01:04:54,830
But we relocated it to the most safe and efficient place in line with city staff's recommendations.

820
01:04:55,370 --> 01:05:00,330
And after the city council asked us to please look at it and if it's better make that change.

821
01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:01,630
So we've done that.

822
01:05:01,790 --> 01:05:08,550
We've met with the neighbors and understand how adding stormwater infrastructure to this site will increase

823
01:05:08,550 --> 01:05:13,510
It's a recurrent runoff that isn't managed, because there is no stormwater management on this site as it exists today.

824
01:05:14,050 --> 01:05:20,510
We have made every change and met every recommendation that city staff has asked of us.

825
01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:26,710
And we've worked with the neighbors as much as we can to try to limit the impact on their communities.

826
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,880
The biggest opposition we heard tonight and at the last public hearing was traffic.

827
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:40,700
and access to Mugit. I've already discussed that with you and that's in your staff

828
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:45,620
report. It's in the record or for the council, what all of the consultants and city

829
01:05:45,620 --> 01:05:51,320
staff members have opined on traffic and sight distance on the current plan. The other one

830
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,980
I heard was briefly density, but the our density here, which is detailed in your staff

831
01:05:55,980 --> 01:06:02,680
report is less than other recent villa and similar projects. And then the other item that

832
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,980
we heard was rental.

833
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,040
Rental is an interesting concept,

834
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:11,540
and I understand why the neighbors are concerned

835
01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:13,780
and have concerns, and I understand why the council

836
01:06:13,780 --> 01:06:15,560
just feels odd about it.

837
01:06:15,740 --> 01:06:16,780
It's new, it's different.

838
01:06:17,380 --> 01:06:21,100
But this is not a multi-family community.

839
01:06:21,260 --> 01:06:24,000
It's a single family residential community

840
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,200
where the current owner developer wants to enter

841
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,080
into long term leases of these luxury homes.

842
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:38,240
under the Constitution, under Missouri statute, long term lease is a year or more, are protected.

843
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:46,980
Anyone on this council, anyone in this audience has the right, should they ever have the need or want to rent their single family home for long term lease?

844
01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:50,460
Not Airbnb is not short term lease as we all know those are regulated.

845
01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:55,700
So if you look at the city's zoning code, if you look at the comprehensive plan,

846
01:06:55,700 --> 01:07:04,140
nowhere in the review criteria is the identity of the occupant, or rental, long-term rental.

847
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,900
It's just simply not in there.

848
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:12,400
It's for the best, most efficient planning use for a site, and a luxury villa residential

849
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,700
communities surrounded by other residential communities and luxury communities and

850
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:22,980
villa communities really makes sense to us, and makes sense to the property owner who, you

851
01:07:22,980 --> 01:07:25,100
know, is the property under contract with us.

852
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,960
So we asked you to really take a look at that.

853
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,600
We had almost unanimous approval from the Planning and

854
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,360
Zoning Commission to recommend approval to the Council.

855
01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:38,120
Staff report recommended approval.

856
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,620
And that was after intense review of the city's

857
01:07:40,620 --> 01:07:44,700
Zoning Code comprehensive plan and other recent land use

858
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:45,660
approval decisions.

859
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,720
And so we are asking the city council to approve the

860
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,400
annexation and the zoning petitions in the preliminary

861
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,280
development plan for this project.

862
01:07:54,280 --> 01:08:08,920
Not based on us being a developer, it's about this being an excellent, beautiful project that fits on this site, and it's directly consistent and cohesive with other developmental community road.

863
01:08:09,340 --> 01:08:12,160
And we thank you for your consideration, and we're hearing some questions.

864
01:08:21,730 --> 01:08:28,870
And the last council meeting during the public hearing, Ms.

865
01:08:28,990 --> 01:08:33,030
MacJosh indicated that the applicant was speaking relative to each item and

866
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:36,490
rather break up her presentation five minutes, five minutes on each item.

867
01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:38,510
We can dance them into one item.

868
01:08:38,710 --> 01:08:41,050
She will not be speaking again under 70 or 70.

869
01:08:41,930 --> 01:08:42,710
You're welcome.

870
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:45,110
Very good.

871
01:08:46,010 --> 01:08:47,970
And I have no further speakers on this public hearing.

872
01:08:49,050 --> 01:08:49,930
Any questions?

873
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:55,850
Yeah, I call you under seven C.

874
01:08:56,230 --> 01:08:56,870
Did I not?

875
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:00,760
Donna McCarrison?

876
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,460
I'm sorry.

877
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,380
Donna McCarrison.

878
01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:11,860
I apologize, Miss McCarrison.

879
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,880
Okay, last time I didn't get to speak, because I didn't know my form had to be and before

880
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:16,240
them in.

881
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,980
I got you.

882
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,100
I wanted to get it right.

883
01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:19,080
Yeah, you did.

884
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:19,920
That's my fault.

885
01:09:20,020 --> 01:09:20,660
My apologies.

886
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,220
Thank you for your patience.

887
01:09:22,540 --> 01:09:23,620
I appreciate it.

888
01:09:23,780 --> 01:09:24,400
You're welcome.

889
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:25,640
My name's Donna McCarrison.

890
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,580
Harrison and I live on Hampton Place Court,

891
01:09:31,620 --> 01:09:54,180
I want to speak on two things, first briefly on the traffic, we've kind of beat that went to death, but I have to tell you that I'm no traffic study expert, but I do know that when I have to make a left turn into Hampton Place Court, I put on my emergency flyers.

892
01:09:54,180 --> 01:10:01,000
I say a prayer as I look in my rear view mirror, and I hope that whoever comes

893
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:06,580
barrel in behind me is not tuning in their radio or glancing at their phone

894
01:10:06,580 --> 01:10:11,540
because I'm going to get rear-ended, and it's come close so many times.

895
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:22,180
I know that the two-mile stretch between Old Highway 94, where Walgreens is, and Old

896
01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:29,560
the U.G. road where Watson's is has eight different left turn lanes on it.

897
01:10:29,740 --> 01:10:32,420
Center lanes designed for left turns.

898
01:10:33,220 --> 01:10:40,340
And I'm no traffic expert, but I think the only solution, and I ask that you consider it

899
01:10:40,340 --> 01:10:49,040
in the near future, is a full length, two-mile center lane dedicated to left turns on

900
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:59,560
road. Without that, we are asking for trouble. So I'll leave the traffic subject. What I really

901
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:07,980
want to talk about is community and neighbors and neighborhoods. My husband and I moved here

902
01:11:07,980 --> 01:11:15,220
from New York almost 50 years ago. And I'm a little embarrassed to admit that for the first

903
01:11:15,220 --> 01:11:23,240
six months we lived here, we would look at each other and say, why are these people being so

904
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:36,160
nice? What did they want? But after about six months we realized this is the nicest, kindest,

905
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:45,060
most neighborly place we had ever lived. We moved into the house closest to the realtor who

906
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:50,840
showed us around because he had us to a neighborhood barbecue where we got to meet all the neighbors

907
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,880
and we were welcomed with open arms.

908
01:11:54,780 --> 01:12:00,400
And the group that's here tonight from Hampton Place Court includes our newest resident

909
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,120
of eight months because he also has been welcomed.

910
01:12:04,740 --> 01:12:09,340
But lots of the people on the street like May have lived there 23 years.

911
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:15,440
And my main objection, I'm sure these villas will be gorgeous.

912
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,700
But I want people who are going to invest in our community.

913
01:12:23,380 --> 01:12:39,480
I want people who attend the festivals and join the churches and become youth sport coaches and go to the concerts.

914
01:12:39,480 --> 01:12:45,240
and attend the City Hall hearings and get involved in the neighborhood.

915
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:53,460
And I'm sorry people who have long term one year leases don't necessarily do that.

916
01:12:54,040 --> 01:13:00,680
At the last meeting Mayor Dan said 25% of the housing units in St. Charles are rentals.

917
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,520
Great, I'll bet there's some nice ones too.

918
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:18,200
I don't think building 50 units of rentals next to all of these individual homes is the right plan.

919
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:31,620
Lastly, I want to thank you for the time and dedication you put into being city council members.

920
01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:39,500
I know you take a lot of crap, but we appreciate your time and your effort, and I'll bet

921
01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:47,520
many of you have lived here most of your lives, and I'll bet you live in owner occupied

922
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:54,620
neighborhoods, and that's what makes St. Charles a fabulous community.

923
01:13:55,540 --> 01:13:56,820
Please keep it.

924
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,000
Thank you.

925
01:14:03,190 --> 01:14:04,070
There's speakers.

926
01:14:06,780 --> 01:14:07,340
Well, gosh,

927
01:14:09,470 --> 01:14:10,190
you're on 17.

928
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:11,330
You're the next one.

929
01:14:11,470 --> 01:14:11,670
All right.

930
01:14:11,690 --> 01:14:12,650
I got you.

931
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:13,790
Thank you.

932
01:14:14,750 --> 01:14:16,690
I was about to say, oh my gosh.

933
01:14:17,410 --> 01:14:18,330
Questions of all from council?

934
01:14:22,020 --> 01:14:23,840
Well, if there's somebody else who wants to speak first.

935
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:24,440
Let them go.

936
01:14:24,620 --> 01:14:25,260
I'll go last.

937
01:14:25,820 --> 01:14:26,480
Did you?

938
01:14:26,940 --> 01:14:28,260
I had a question for staff.

939
01:14:29,380 --> 01:14:30,600
Maybe for Mr. Boyer.

940
01:14:31,460 --> 01:14:33,880
I want to make sure that, you know, it's clear.

941
01:14:35,220 --> 01:14:41,200
Item C, 2026-14, is to rezone a county property into a city zoning.

942
01:14:41,660 --> 01:14:42,040
That's correct.

943
01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:46,640
And I would make it match the other two properties that are already zoned in the city.

944
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,220
That's correct.

945
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:55,540
And then item D, 2026-15, is to change all three of those properties to R3A.

946
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:56,220
That's correct.

947
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,960
And I see the memo very well explained why R3A was choking.

948
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,140
So I appreciate your staff members sending that out. Ms. Lureso sent it out very well.

949
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:14,420
Put, thank you for that. What else is could go in R3A rather than, you know, what uses can go in R3A?

950
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:21,420
Typical, the most common use that we see with R3A. Obviously, we do see some town home developments with R3A.

951
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,000
I'm sorry. Thank you. Usually my voice carries, but not right now.

952
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:31,520
So, R3A typically what we see is that's probably the predominant use for apartment buildings.

953
01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:38,420
Now, it does have some townhome developments within the city, but the predominant land use for R3A is apartments.

954
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:47,120
And then the third item is to take that R3A, which establishes the underlying zoning and make it a PDR, correct?

955
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:47,740
That's correct.

956
01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:49,100
Thank you.

957
01:15:49,220 --> 01:15:49,640
That's all right.

958
01:15:50,380 --> 01:15:51,600
Mr. Brewing.

959
01:15:53,260 --> 01:16:00,900
I don't think I can compete with the motion that Lady just spoke with about living in St. Charles.

960
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,740
That was very good.

961
01:16:06,370 --> 01:16:15,190
Weeks ago about the world of honor occupied luxury villas that I'm part of where I live.

962
01:16:15,690 --> 01:16:22,650
But tonight I want to talk a little bit about the personal side of living in an honor occupied villa if I could just for a minute.

963
01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:29,310
I call it POC, the power of caring.

964
01:16:30,170 --> 01:16:32,930
I think villa owners care.

965
01:16:34,150 --> 01:16:35,650
I live in a community that they care.

966
01:16:36,410 --> 01:16:37,510
My neighbors care.

967
01:16:38,130 --> 01:16:42,390
If you leave town for three days or three months, you tell your neighbor.

968
01:16:42,970 --> 01:16:44,350
And they keep an eye on your place.

969
01:16:45,250 --> 01:16:47,670
If the snow gets pushed in front of your mailbox,

970
01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:49,850
the neighbor comes out and cleans it off.

971
01:16:50,190 --> 01:16:50,990
So you can get to your mailbox.

972
01:16:52,930 --> 01:16:58,790
My bride and her friends down the street, they all plant flowers and ferns and it drives me crazy,

973
01:16:58,930 --> 01:17:02,830
but there's flowers and stuff all up and down the street because they care.

974
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:04,530
And I think that's important.

975
01:17:04,570 --> 01:17:10,050
That's an important part of honor-occupied properties is the caring part, and that's what I see in

976
01:17:10,050 --> 01:17:10,430
Villas.

977
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:16,790
I would say to you this, I would say this to you also, in my community, we three years

978
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:20,930
to go amended our covenants and restrictions to prohibit rental.

979
01:17:22,330 --> 01:17:26,890
And the same thing is occurring at the Hamptons during the process of changing theirs.

980
01:17:27,770 --> 01:17:33,050
Carleton manners in the process of changing theirs, folks, there's a reason they changed

981
01:17:33,050 --> 01:17:34,770
and prohibit rental.

982
01:17:35,010 --> 01:17:36,310
There's a reason for that.

983
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:42,790
If you ask for the, I think if you ask for the typical profile of a renter today, I think

984
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:51,010
What I saw was 70% or under the age of 35, most of them were single, and they don't have children.

985
01:17:52,030 --> 01:17:59,510
I guess to go into a 3,000 or 4,000 month rent, you better have three or four of your buddies in there, do it with four that kind of rent.

986
01:18:00,910 --> 01:18:10,570
Most of the renters that the profile says are 60% or so have a pet or pets, so that's part of the rental difference.

987
01:18:10,570 --> 01:18:16,930
but owner occupied, I think, is where we need to focus on our seniors going into this project.

988
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:18,610
That probably doesn't make sense.

989
01:18:19,190 --> 01:18:20,050
Three or four thousand.

990
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:25,210
That's the total amount of their social security check, so that would have no value to them.

991
01:18:25,870 --> 01:18:31,930
So I want to make this recommendation to you, that I think Stone Moss needs to understand

992
01:18:31,930 --> 01:18:39,170
that we are a community of people who care for each other, and on that basis, this project

993
01:18:39,170 --> 01:18:43,290
really doesn't deserve daylight, something

994
01:18:50,710 --> 01:18:54,950
from Justin Faust if I could, and I'm going

995
01:18:54,950 --> 01:19:04,190
to make this funky little quote. And that is, like a good neighbor, a good neighbor is

996
01:19:04,190 --> 01:19:09,590
there. I mean, that's just the way it is. Good neighbors are there in bill of communities.

997
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:22,070
So I asked my fellow members on the console to take stone moss and put it in the post file because this is not really what we need on this property on on media.

998
01:19:29,420 --> 01:19:33,100
I drove to Hampton Place.

999
01:19:33,540 --> 01:19:37,620
I made a left turn into there and went to bed because it was quarter after six.

1000
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:42,740
I'm going to try to leave there. I tried to make a left turn coming back out of there and that was major tricky.

1001
01:19:42,740 --> 01:19:47,480
And the only way I got out of there was because I waited for the light to change up on the top of the hill.

1002
01:19:48,020 --> 01:19:48,860
That what's it changed?

1003
01:19:49,060 --> 01:19:50,240
I had enough time for me to get out.

1004
01:19:50,420 --> 01:19:59,200
Otherwise, you're the better of a V8 or a hot car to make that left turn onto Mickey when the traffic is heavy duty.

1005
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:00,780
Because there's not a lot of space.

1006
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:01,920
Thank you for listening.

1007
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:15,700
I just want to thank everybody who has come to our due process hearings.

1008
01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:26,400
It's important to hear from all sides as a council and each hearing we learned something different or we hear something different.

1009
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:34,240
I'm a little different than my other council members and I don't decide until it's time to actually vote.

1010
01:20:34,780 --> 01:20:37,160
And that's because I like to get all the information.

1011
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,400
I do want to say there's some things that have been brought up at this hearing and I want

1012
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:50,360
to make it clear, something that was said that wasn't true and I don't want rumors going

1013
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:56,300
around the ward or the city, it was mentioned that there's 200 apartments that are going

1014
01:20:56,300 --> 01:21:00,260
at the corner of the old highway 94 and Newgate that is not true.

1015
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:06,060
That is Hawthorne Grove that is being built there which is 34 town homes on our occupied.

1016
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:15,440
So, I just want to squash that, maybe the person who spoke wasn't aware and was confused

1017
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:20,560
with what was going coming at Lindbrook, Lindbrook in 1994.

1018
01:21:21,540 --> 01:21:24,760
That is an apartment complex that is being proposed.

1019
01:21:25,740 --> 01:21:32,940
But the 34 town homes called Hawthorne Grove at Old Highway 94 across from the VFW, those

1020
01:21:32,940 --> 01:21:35,240
are town homes, those are not 200 apartments.

1021
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:42,400
So I just wanted to set that straight. I don't need everybody going around thinking that we've got to 100 apartments coming on that corner

1022
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:49,540
Let me see what else this

1023
01:21:50,380 --> 01:21:58,280
I appreciate the developer and the staff sitting down and looking at the options of the

1024
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,160
Proposed new entrants

1025
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:05,900
I do think that it will help with visibility to move that

1026
01:22:05,900 --> 01:22:07,820
If this goes through,

1027
01:22:10,420 --> 01:22:24,980
so, because that is a change to exhibit be, when it's time for us to, after we close the public hearing and we vote, we will have to make an amendment to that bill to adopt that change going forward.

1028
01:22:24,980 --> 01:22:33,900
And I want to let everybody know that if that amendment passes, our code, our city code,

1029
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:39,300
section 1 1009O, states that we need to table the bell for one week.

1030
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:46,840
So I will be proposing that amendment to be adopted when it's time for a bill's for final,

1031
01:22:47,820 --> 01:23:04,300
And if it does pass, then I will be voting to table that bill to bring forward at our first regular session in September, along with the other three bills, so that they're all voted on consistently.

1032
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,960
But number one, I have to make sure that the amendment changes.

1033
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,080
So just want to let you know that's what's going on there.

1034
01:23:10,860 --> 01:23:15,920
Secondly, I know a lot of you don't come to these meetings very often, so you're not familiar with the process.

1035
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,180
What's going to happen next is we have to close the public hearing on this item.

1036
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,420
We are not voting on this item.

1037
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:29,220
We are closing the public hearing, meaning we won't take any more testimony from the public

1038
01:23:29,220 --> 01:23:30,280
or the developer.

1039
01:23:31,660 --> 01:23:37,920
So we will do that first once that closes, then we move on to vote at those for final.

1040
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:45,040
So if there's nothing else that anybody wants to say, I'm going to close the public hearing

1041
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,240
on this one item.

1042
01:23:49,660 --> 01:23:51,740
Again, I thank you all for coming and participating

1043
01:23:51,740 --> 01:23:53,840
and does mean a lot to us.

1044
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,700
Okay, so I moved to include the public hearing

1045
01:23:57,700 --> 01:23:59,420
to receive the staff report

1046
01:23:59,420 --> 01:24:02,220
and to have the appropriate legislation

1047
01:24:02,220 --> 01:24:04,000
presented for council consideration.

1048
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,020
Motion in a second, roll call, Bart Haberstrow.

1049
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:11,560
Mark Hollander.

1050
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:12,520
abstain.

1051
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:13,740
Steve Hollander.

1052
01:24:13,900 --> 01:24:14,700
All right.

1053
01:24:14,860 --> 01:24:15,720
Chris Kyle.

1054
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,060
All right.

1055
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:17,040
Denise Mitchell.

1056
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:24,120
I, Vince Ratchford, Tom Bruning, Justin Faust, Michael Galba, Brian Gold.

1057
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:24,760
Okay.

1058
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,060
Okay.

1059
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:25,560
That passes.

1060
01:24:27,420 --> 01:24:35,780
The next public hearing is D Case Number Z-2026-15, Larsen Development LLC, an application

1061
01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:44,120
to rezone an 8.39 acre, more or less, tract of land located at 17.04, 17.10 and 17.12

1062
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:51,360
new key road from R-1E single family residential district to R-3A, multiple family residential

1063
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:51,980
district.

1064
01:24:52,420 --> 01:24:58,060
The subject property is located in Ward 5, references council bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 4 with

1065
01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,880
the supplemental RCA attached.

1066
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:05,380
As indicated by the clerk, this is the next step in that same project that we've been talking

1067
01:25:05,380 --> 01:25:06,480
about with the stone moss.

1068
01:25:06,500 --> 01:25:10,420
So the first project we were talking about established minute of the initial zoning, matching

1069
01:25:10,420 --> 01:25:15,480
what the county has, this next one would be coming into the zoning that would establish the

1070
01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:21,140
densities and the land uses available within the PD district, which is the next public

1071
01:25:21,140 --> 01:25:21,480
hearing.

1072
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,720
As indicated by the developer, and also made mentioned by one of the council members, there

1073
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,880
was a memo provided to you from one of my staff members, kind of explaining the difference between

1074
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,900
the R1, the R2, and the R3, and why the R3 was chosen.

1075
01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:39,740
Essentially, it is the minimum zoning needed to meet the applicants requirement for the attached

1076
01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:47,680
Townhomes each on their own single family lots sharing a wall that is not possible in R2 and it is not possible in R1

1077
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,960
So that memo was provided for you

1078
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,760
Again, this is just the next step in this requirement going to the R3

1079
01:25:54,340 --> 01:25:57,340
I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have on this item

1080
01:25:58,780 --> 01:26:00,560
Questions for staff?

1081
01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:04,540
Seeing none

1082
01:26:04,540 --> 01:26:11,880
I have one speaker card. This is for Keith Hine and his here speaking relative to case number 7D on the agenda

1083
01:26:20,250 --> 01:26:21,250
Thank you very much.

1084
01:26:21,250 --> 01:26:24,230
It's going to be hard if a lot of those last two speakers, but I'll try.

1085
01:26:25,150 --> 01:26:27,930
I'm a near-life long resident of the city of St. Charles.

1086
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:33,330
My parents moved to sunny Brookestates, when I was an infant, more years ago than I

1087
01:26:33,330 --> 01:26:37,790
cared it would emit, and I've lived here ever since, except for about 14 years, like Mr.

1088
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:38,070
Gould.

1089
01:26:38,730 --> 01:26:41,410
I traveled around as a member of the year for us.

1090
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:47,070
I live now in spring, middle of the states, on mid-year road, and I have some of the

1091
01:26:47,070 --> 01:26:49,850
Some of the concerns with those speakers were perhaps a different perspective.

1092
01:26:50,810 --> 01:26:55,710
I work part-time a couple of days a week, so on rush hour I'm waiting to turn left

1093
01:26:55,710 --> 01:27:00,090
to go in on my subdivision and I got a great view of those nice little signs that you

1094
01:27:00,090 --> 01:27:04,150
put up with the radar to tell people when they should slow it down.

1095
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:10,430
They flash red when people do 44 and a 40 zone and when I'm sitting waiting to turn left

1096
01:27:10,430 --> 01:27:12,510
it's just constantly flashing red.

1097
01:27:12,510 --> 01:27:18,350
My wife and I have a calm little game where I say, how fast did people go today?

1098
01:27:19,250 --> 01:27:24,610
And there are constantly 45 to 50, so far the records 55 that I've noticed.

1099
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:31,470
That combined with the limited sightlines makes it very dangerous and additional traffic

1100
01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:36,170
of a high-density development like the one proposed we want to make it worse.

1101
01:27:36,170 --> 01:27:46,270
Just two days ago, I was driving northbound on Miyuki to go to my son's house, and I came upon a young woman whose car had stalled in the right-hand lane.

1102
01:27:47,290 --> 01:27:55,430
I was going at the speed limit, and it was a challenge to stop before hitting her due to the limited sight distance.

1103
01:27:56,010 --> 01:28:02,630
Multiply this by 1,000 cars in Russia are an additional traffic that high density would be a challenge.

1104
01:28:04,430 --> 01:28:10,270
Second, I would also think a different perspective, no one's mentioned tonight, I've got

1105
01:28:10,270 --> 01:28:14,470
a lot of friends with younger children trying to sort out and move into homes.

1106
01:28:15,050 --> 01:28:18,410
And as I mentioned, Mr. Booning earlier, he's a lot of where there's a big shortage

1107
01:28:18,410 --> 01:28:22,530
of affordable, single-family, owner-occupied housing.

1108
01:28:23,190 --> 01:28:27,270
This is an opportunity but land in St. Charles to do just that.

1109
01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:31,090
And unfortunately, this proposed development doesn't meet those criteria.

1110
01:28:33,530 --> 01:28:36,430
The presentation talks about high-end rentals.

1111
01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:43,890
Larson's going to develop it and leave, and they won't have a long-term interest in the renters once they've made the development.

1112
01:28:44,630 --> 01:28:54,410
And instead, I think it's a unique opportunity to build some affordable single family owner occupied homes to help out our community in our area.

1113
01:28:55,370 --> 01:29:01,290
One final thought, I drive there quite a bit during rush hour, one final point about the speed.

1114
01:29:02,130 --> 01:29:07,690
In a previous lifetime, I've routinely flew 500 miles an hour at 300 feet above the ground,

1115
01:29:08,230 --> 01:29:09,530
on your taxpayer dollars.

1116
01:29:09,730 --> 01:29:10,970
So thank you for that.

1117
01:29:11,890 --> 01:29:16,910
But I get nervous driving on you during rush hour, trying to make left turns,

1118
01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:19,810
and even just navigating from 364 to Muggy,

1119
01:29:20,290 --> 01:29:22,290
because I don't know what other drivers are doing,

1120
01:29:22,290 --> 01:29:26,070
or how much they're paying attention as other speaker mentions so adequately.

1121
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:32,090
Another outlet from this development of a lot of cars every day

1122
01:29:32,090 --> 01:29:34,110
would only exacerbate that problem.

1123
01:29:34,830 --> 01:29:38,170
I understand the owner was to maximize their money from the sale

1124
01:29:38,170 --> 01:29:40,770
and the developer wants to build more units

1125
01:29:41,070 --> 01:29:42,570
again to maximize profits.

1126
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:45,930
But I would like to think that we need to look for the great

1127
01:29:45,930 --> 01:29:51,470
good for all of St. Charles and a smaller number of affordable, single-family homes.

1128
01:29:51,470 --> 01:29:55,910
I think is where I'd answer and I hope you seriously consider that option.

1129
01:29:58,700 --> 01:29:59,780
Thanks for your time.

1130
01:30:01,460 --> 01:30:05,660
I have no further speakers.

1131
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:15,680
Any other questions from Council? Miss visual? Again, we are just closing the public hearing on this, everyone.

1132
01:30:16,220 --> 01:30:23,060
I move to conclude the public hearing to receive the staff report and to have the appropriate legislation presented for council consideration.

1133
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:23,880
Second.

1134
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:33,290
Roll, call Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander, Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell, I, Vince

1135
01:30:33,290 --> 01:30:40,090
Ratchford, Tom Brooney, Justin Fowse, Michael Galba, Brian Gold, Bart Haberstrow,

1136
01:30:40,530 --> 01:30:41,370
that passes.

1137
01:30:43,130 --> 01:30:49,770
The next public hearing is case number Z-2026-16, Larsen Development LLC, an application

1138
01:30:49,770 --> 01:30:52,850
to rezone an 8.39 acre more or less,

1139
01:30:53,110 --> 01:30:56,370
tract of land located at 17.04, 17.10,

1140
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:59,750
and 17.12 Mughi Road from R-3A,

1141
01:30:59,930 --> 01:31:01,590
multiple family residential district,

1142
01:31:02,030 --> 01:31:05,370
to PD-R planned development residential district,

1143
01:31:05,830 --> 01:31:08,730
for a proposed 50 unit attached townhome development.

1144
01:31:09,130 --> 01:31:11,270
The subject property is located in Ward 5,

1145
01:31:11,630 --> 01:31:14,070
references council bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 5,

1146
01:31:14,330 --> 01:31:16,650
on your agenda, which had a supplemental RCA attached.

1147
01:31:16,650 --> 01:31:21,830
So, this is the culminating bill or zoning for the proposed development before you the

1148
01:31:21,830 --> 01:31:22,450
stone moss.

1149
01:31:22,670 --> 01:31:29,230
This is the go from the R1E of initial zoning, the R3 to set up density and land uses

1150
01:31:29,230 --> 01:31:35,090
then eventually to the planned development residential to finally establish their full plan

1151
01:31:35,090 --> 01:31:38,810
which you have before you tonight for their attached townhomes.

1152
01:31:39,290 --> 01:31:45,430
Revised drawings were provided to you by the developer that showed the flip in the location

1153
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:50,450
more south for the drive entrance to be more on top of the hill to improve sight distance

1154
01:31:51,090 --> 01:31:55,370
as far as any other information. We'd be more than happy to provide any additional

1155
01:31:55,370 --> 01:31:59,930
clarification from the staff's standpoint. I'd be happy to answer any questions in

1156
01:31:59,930 --> 01:32:03,190
addition to that. Questions from Council?

1157
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,440
Seeing none. Ms. Mitchell.

1158
01:32:09,740 --> 01:32:14,900
And for the last time this is the last public hearing that we will be closing it right now.

1159
01:32:14,900 --> 01:32:21,520
So, I moved to conclude the public hearing to receive the staff report and to have the appropriate legislation presented for council consideration.

1160
01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:23,580
Okay.

1161
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:28,080
Roll call, Steve Hollander.

1162
01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:28,780
All right.

1163
01:32:28,780 --> 01:32:29,580
Chris Kyle.

1164
01:32:30,180 --> 01:32:30,820
Denise Mitchell.

1165
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:31,220
I.

1166
01:32:31,420 --> 01:32:32,040
Vince Frachford.

1167
01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:33,220
Tom Brooney.

1168
01:32:33,900 --> 01:32:34,720
Justin Faust.

1169
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:35,820
Michael Galba.

1170
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,060
Brian Gulz.

1171
01:32:37,260 --> 01:32:37,980
Mark Haberstrow.

1172
01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:38,920
I.

1173
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:39,580
Mark Hollander.

1174
01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:40,140
I'm staying.

1175
01:32:44,660 --> 01:32:46,140
Moving on to the consent agenda.

1176
01:32:47,390 --> 01:32:51,890
Intertain Emotions for Consented saja. So moved

1177
01:32:56,820 --> 01:33:00,580
roll call Chris Kyle Denise Mitchell. I Vince

1178
01:33:00,580 --> 01:33:08,640
Ratchford. Tom Broening. Justin Faust. Michael Galba. Brian Gould. Hi. Hi. Thank you. Bart

1179
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:17,500
Haber Stroke. Mark Hollander. Steve Hollander. Hi. That passes. No items from move. Remove from

1180
01:33:17,500 --> 01:33:19,400
You can send it, Jenna. Do we have any resolutions?

1181
01:33:21,340 --> 01:33:22,120
No resolutions.

1182
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,760
Moving on to bills for final. Miss Mitchell?

1183
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,960
I'd like to make an amendment, so I moved to amend,

1184
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:36,360
amend bill 14125 to replace the original exhibit

1185
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,460
B with the revised exhibit B that appears in the agenda packet,

1186
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:47,480
and reflects the relocated southern access point on

1187
01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:57,050
roll call on the amendment made by council member Mitchell, Denise Mitchell,

1188
01:33:57,470 --> 01:34:03,870
I, Vince Ratchford, Tom Broening, Justin Fauss, Michael Galba, Brian Gould,

1189
01:34:04,330 --> 01:34:10,170
Bart Haber Strow, Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander, and Chris Kyle.

1190
01:34:10,730 --> 01:34:13,130
Okay, that motion to amend is approved.

1191
01:34:15,660 --> 01:34:21,540
Mr. Hollander, I'd like to request a separate vote on council bill 14126.

1192
01:34:34,460 --> 01:34:53,360
And because of that amendment passing, I'm going to ask that we move the vote on that bill based on our ordinances to the 91 meeting and I'm going to ask that we move the other three bills with it so that we're voting on all four bills at the same time.

1193
01:34:54,000 --> 01:35:02,020
So, I move to postpone final consideration of those 1, 4, 1, 2, 2, 1, 4, 1, 2, 3, 1,

1194
01:35:02,620 --> 01:35:08,600
1, 2, 4, and 1, 4, 1, 2, 5 to the September 1, 2020, 6 meeting.

1195
01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:09,480
Second.

1196
01:35:16,700 --> 01:35:17,380
All right.

1197
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:23,020
So, just so I'm clear, I'll repeat that Ms. Mitchell, Council Member Mitchell is making a motion

1198
01:35:23,020 --> 01:35:30,560
to table council bill 1, 412, 2, 1, 412, 1, 2, 3, 1, 4, 1, 2, 4, and 1, 4, 1, 2, 5,

1199
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,900
to the September 1 regular city council meeting.

1200
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,280
That would be the final vote that day.

1201
01:35:36,300 --> 01:35:37,160
Yes, ma'am.

1202
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:38,780
And Vince Ratchford is the second.

1203
01:35:39,140 --> 01:35:39,320
OK.

1204
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:40,220
Thank you.

1205
01:35:40,460 --> 01:35:41,580
Role called Vince Ratchford.

1206
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:41,880
Hi.

1207
01:35:42,700 --> 01:35:43,440
Tom Brooney.

1208
01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:44,400
A post.

1209
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:46,020
OK.

1210
01:35:46,780 --> 01:35:47,500
Justin Faust.

1211
01:35:47,540 --> 01:35:47,800
Hi.

1212
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:49,220
Michael Galba.

1213
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:49,760
Hi.

1214
01:35:49,900 --> 01:35:50,620
Brian Gold.

1215
01:35:50,620 --> 01:35:51,060
All right.

1216
01:35:51,460 --> 01:35:53,760
Bart Haber Stro, Mark Collender.

1217
01:35:53,820 --> 01:35:54,380
I'm staying.

1218
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:55,580
Steve Collender.

1219
01:35:56,540 --> 01:35:57,400
Chris Kyle.

1220
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:58,660
And Denise Mitchell.

1221
01:35:59,180 --> 01:35:59,420
Okay.

1222
01:35:59,420 --> 01:35:59,900
That passes.

1223
01:35:59,980 --> 01:36:02,540
Those bills will be on the September 1 agenda.

1224
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,820
On then to regular bills for final passage.

1225
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:09,820
Madam Clerk.

1226
01:36:12,170 --> 01:36:12,430
All right.

1227
01:36:13,450 --> 01:36:15,050
So, I'll read the remainder.

1228
01:36:17,150 --> 01:36:18,990
I'll be able to get one held on separate, right?

1229
01:36:19,150 --> 01:36:19,770
What's that?

1230
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:20,210
Yes.

1231
01:36:21,050 --> 01:36:22,510
Those four bills will be table.

1232
01:36:22,570 --> 01:36:23,470
I won't read those.

1233
01:36:23,470 --> 01:36:26,070
And I will pull his out for a separate vote.

1234
01:36:26,290 --> 01:36:26,930
Yeah, thank you.

1235
01:36:27,090 --> 01:36:27,890
I'll read the remaining.

1236
01:36:28,810 --> 01:36:31,630
So right now we're going to read bill 1, 4, 1, 1, 1.

1237
01:36:31,670 --> 01:36:33,750
And ordinance amending ordinance number 25,

1238
01:36:34,050 --> 01:36:36,250
dash 086 by amending certain revenue,

1239
01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:39,150
expenditure, and fund balance accounts for the budget

1240
01:36:39,150 --> 01:36:42,410
for the fiscal year 2026, budget amendment number 10,

1241
01:36:42,570 --> 01:36:45,870
sponsor, Bart Haber Stro, bill 1, 4, 1, 1, 2.

1242
01:36:45,970 --> 01:36:49,250
And ordinance amending section 1, 2, 5, 0.2, 4, 0.

1243
01:36:49,610 --> 01:36:52,010
Related to the composition of the greater St. Charles

1244
01:36:52,010 --> 01:36:56,110
Convention and Visitors Commission by increasing its membership by one commissioner.

1245
01:36:56,550 --> 01:37:02,370
Sponsor is Mark Hollander. Bill 1, 4113, an ordinance amending chapter 400, the zoning

1246
01:37:02,370 --> 01:37:08,830
code of the code of ordinances, specifically sections 400, 2220, and 400, 2230.

1247
01:37:10,250 --> 01:37:15,030
To permit recreational vehicle storage within the C2 general route of the business district.

1248
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:19,690
Sponsor's Steve Hollander. Bill 1, 4114, an ordinance approving the record

1249
01:37:19,690 --> 01:37:25,050
It is a 1735 district, a subdivision of the City of St. Charles Missouri, sponsored

1250
01:37:25,050 --> 01:37:29,570
as Venus Ratchford. Bill 1415, in order to prove the record

1251
01:37:29,570 --> 01:37:35,310
plat for the new town at St. Charles Platt 17-A, a subdivision of the city of St. Charles

1252
01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:40,730
Missouri, sponsored as Michael Galba. Bill 1416, an ordinance approving the record

1253
01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:46,130
plat for the new town at St. Charles Platt 17-B, a subdivision of the city of St. Charles

1254
01:37:46,130 --> 01:37:52,090
in Missouri, Sponsor, Michael Galba, the 14117, an ordinance annexing certain adjacent

1255
01:37:52,090 --> 01:37:56,690
contiguous land into the city of St. Charles, Missouri, and assigning the land to a designated

1256
01:37:56,690 --> 01:38:02,790
ward of the city being petitioned for annexation by 1020 metal lane LLC of approximately

1257
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:07,130
0.35 acres more or less of land known as 1020 metal lane.

1258
01:38:07,390 --> 01:38:14,210
The sponsor is Justin Faust, the 14118, an ordinance rezoning to St. Charles city zoning district

1259
01:38:14,210 --> 01:38:20,810
R-1E, single-family residential district, from St. Charles County zoning district, R-1E,

1260
01:38:20,930 --> 01:38:26,670
single-family residential district, a 0.35 acre, more or less, tracked of land, located

1261
01:38:26,670 --> 01:38:28,250
at 1020 metal lanes.

1262
01:38:28,370 --> 01:38:29,750
Sponsor is just in fast.

1263
01:38:31,130 --> 01:38:38,550
The 114-127, an ordinance rezoning to St. Charles City zoning district, PD-C, plan development

1264
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:44,990
commercial from St. Charles City Zoning District, C-2 General Business District, a tract of land

1265
01:38:44,990 --> 01:38:53,870
of an approximate 5.85 acres overall, more or less, known as 936-938-940 and 948-HimSatthroad,

1266
01:38:54,210 --> 01:38:58,770
and approving the preliminary development plan for the HimSat Business Park in connection

1267
01:38:58,770 --> 01:39:07,510
therewith, the sponsor is Tom Bruning, the 14128, an ordinance amending section 245.020 of

1268
01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:10,290
the code of ordinances related to the permissible hours

1269
01:39:10,290 --> 01:39:11,890
for the collection of garbage.

1270
01:39:12,090 --> 01:39:13,590
The sponsor is Mark Hollander,

1271
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:16,130
roll call Tom Brunning.

1272
01:39:16,430 --> 01:39:16,850
All right.

1273
01:39:16,850 --> 01:39:20,010
Just in Faust, Michael Galba, Brian Gold,

1274
01:39:20,430 --> 01:39:23,990
Bart Haberstrom, Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander,

1275
01:39:24,630 --> 01:39:27,890
Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell, and Vince Ratchford.

1276
01:39:29,070 --> 01:39:29,350
All right.

1277
01:39:32,330 --> 01:39:36,890
Next is Council the 14126, an ordinance authorizing

1278
01:39:36,890 --> 01:39:38,990
the acquisition of right away and easements

1279
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:43,850
required for the first capital drive improvements from this street to King's Highway Street

1280
01:39:43,850 --> 01:39:49,350
Project by purchase donation or imminent domain and authorizing and providing for continuing

1281
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:54,790
authority to execute all documents necessary for the acquisition of said right of way and

1282
01:39:54,790 --> 01:39:55,730
or easements.

1283
01:39:56,110 --> 01:40:03,370
The sponsor, Mark Hollander, role call Justin Faust, Michael Galba, Brian Gould, Bart Haberstrom,

1284
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:08,970
Mark Hollander, Steve Hollander, Chris Kyle, Denise Mitchell,

1285
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:10,610
All right.

1286
01:40:12,130 --> 01:40:12,630
Thanks.

1287
01:40:12,630 --> 01:40:13,330
That one passes.

1288
01:40:16,140 --> 01:40:17,440
Moving to bills for introduction.

1289
01:40:20,590 --> 01:40:21,450
Bills for introduction.

1290
01:40:21,870 --> 01:40:23,290
Bill 1, 4, 1, 2, 9.

1291
01:40:23,490 --> 01:40:27,910
An ordinance authorizing an intergovernmental memorandum of understanding between the city

1292
01:40:27,910 --> 01:40:31,410
of St. Charles, Missouri on behalf of the Police Department and the Department of

1293
01:40:31,410 --> 01:40:35,970
War, office of Inspector General Defense Criminal Investigative Services, D.C.

1294
01:40:35,970 --> 01:40:41,270
I.S. for purposes of allowing for the stores of D.C.I.S. weapons and ammunition within the

1295
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:44,650
police department facility in a secure and monitored space.

1296
01:40:45,070 --> 01:40:49,590
The sponsors are Chris Kyle, Mark Hollinger, Vince Ratchford, Tom Broening, Denise

1297
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:54,850
Mitchell, Justin Faust, Brian Gold, Michael Galba, Bart Haverstrow, and Steve Hollinger.

1298
01:40:56,550 --> 01:41:02,690
Bill 14130, an ordinance authorizing a state transit assistance grant agreement between the Missouri

1299
01:41:02,690 --> 01:41:07,530
Highway and Transportation Commission and the City of St. Charles Missouri for a receipt

1300
01:41:07,530 --> 01:41:14,830
of state transportation funds in the amount of 16,465 dollars in 82 cents during the period

1301
01:41:14,830 --> 01:41:23,770
of July 1, 2026 through June 30, 2027. The sponsor is Mark Hollander. Bill 1431, an ordinance

1302
01:41:23,770 --> 01:41:32,670
approving the record platform for the new town at St. Charles Platt 8A, a subdivision of the

1303
01:41:32,670 --> 01:41:38,370
1, 4, 1, 3, 2, an ordinance declaring real property, located on South River Road of approximately

1304
01:41:38,370 --> 01:41:43,950
11.0 acres of land more or less, at the River Point Development as surplus property,

1305
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:48,830
authorizing disposal by sale to Benton Home Builders Incorporated for the sale price of

1306
01:41:48,830 --> 01:41:57,270
1,412,136, and granting continuing authority to execute documents necessary to carry out the

1307
01:41:57,270 --> 01:42:00,030
intent of this ordinance. This sponsor is Vince Ratchford.

1308
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,680
No emergency ordinances?

1309
01:42:04,340 --> 01:42:04,880
No.

1310
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,860
No movement on table bills, any items for council action.

1311
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,100
And do we have any reason to go into closed session tonight?

1312
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,600
Yes, sir.

1313
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:15,420
Madam Clerk.

1314
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:17,200
Okay.

1315
01:42:20,230 --> 01:42:25,990
We need a motion to go into closed session, relative to legal actions, causes of action or litigation,

1316
01:42:26,250 --> 01:42:29,850
involving a public governmental body and any confidential or privileged communications

1317
01:42:29,850 --> 01:42:37,330
between a public governmental body and its attorneys, RSMO-610-O211, leasing purchase or sale

1318
01:42:37,330 --> 01:42:41,070
of real estate, where public knowledge of the transaction might adversely affect the legal

1319
01:42:41,070 --> 01:42:48,330
consideration there for RSMO-610-O212, hiring, firing, disciplining, or promoting a particular

1320
01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:52,970
employees when information relating to the performance or merit of individual employees is discussed

1321
01:42:52,970 --> 01:43:02,210
recorded RSMO 610213 and sealed bids and related documents until the bids are open and sealed

1322
01:43:02,210 --> 01:43:07,070
proposals and related documents or any documents related to a negotiated contract until

1323
01:43:07,070 --> 01:43:14,250
a contract is executed or all proposals are rejected RSMO 61002112.

1324
01:43:14,250 --> 01:43:15,450
It's so moved.

1325
01:43:16,190 --> 01:43:20,630
It's Michael Galba's second roll call.

1326
01:43:21,090 --> 01:43:21,850
Hi.

1327
01:43:22,130 --> 01:43:22,790
Old.

1328
01:43:23,670 --> 01:43:25,110
Bart Haber Stro.

1329
01:43:26,830 --> 01:43:27,050
Bart.

1330
01:43:27,570 --> 01:43:28,330
I thank you.

1331
01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:29,030
Mark Hollander.

1332
01:43:29,190 --> 01:43:29,370
Hi.

1333
01:43:30,230 --> 01:43:30,970
Steve Hollander.

1334
01:43:31,650 --> 01:43:32,170
Chris Kyle.

1335
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:33,290
Denise Mitchell.

1336
01:43:33,810 --> 01:43:34,530
Vince Ratchford.

1337
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:35,670
Tom Brooney.

1338
01:43:35,690 --> 01:43:35,930
Hi.

1339
01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:37,070
And Justin Faust.