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Good afternoon.

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This is the Solid
waste subcommittee.

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It is Tuesday, August 18th
at 430, and we will call this

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meeting to order.

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Um, we have several meetings
members who will join us.

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Next we will

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get started just doing
make good use of our time.

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So I want to start with
recognizing Matt Purvis, um,

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council liaison from the solid
waste from the National Waste

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Services to talk about the key
performance Indicators review.

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Absolutely. Yes.

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So Matt Purvis on the council
liaison for the Department of

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Waste Services or
Natural Waste Services.

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Uh, and so as a baseline, last
month when I was here, uh, our

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service rate for all three of
our trash haulers, both us and

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our two contractors
combined, was 99.72%.

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Our service rate for recycling,
which is all us, is 99.76%.

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And then from June 1st to July
21st, we had an average daily

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average of 102 trash misses
across all three of our trash

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haulers and 35 recycling
misses, which just in in

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context is 0.28% of our daily
trash stops and 0.24% of our

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daily recycling stops.

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And then moving forward now,
from July until now, our

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service rate for all three

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trash haulers
combined was 99.76%,

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and our service rate
for recycling is 99.74%.

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And from July 1st to now, we've
had a daily average of 80 trash

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misses across all three trash

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haulers and 35 recycling misses.

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So again, 0.22% of our daily

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trash and 0.24% of
our daily recycling.

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So, uh, very stable
if not improving.

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And can you talk about how you,
when you were made aware of

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those misses, how quick
the, the, um, the remedy.

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The turnaround time.

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So our goal is always to hit

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under three days
turnaround time.

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Um, we know our both of our
contractors are running a

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little above that right now,
and ours is somewhere in the

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middle of two two
point such days.

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So our turnaround times are our
turnaround times where we need

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we need them to be.

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We're still working to get
our contractors there as well.

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Great. Any any
comments on those KPIs?

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Other.

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I was going to say
regarding recycling as well.

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Um, we are in the process of
further separating, separating

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out our recycling commodities
at our convenience centers and

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Drop-Off sites.

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So East has been done already
with the other convenience

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centers to come.

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As we get we're looking for

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more replacement
boxes and and signage.

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And so we're awaiting
additional signage and box

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placement box placements.

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So Omaha and Anderson, we're
looking to be in place with

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those by September 1st and
is out by September 8th.

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And talk about what that
does in terms of what we get.

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Absolutely. So what we are
doing in effect, is right now

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at all those sites, we have
one box that has plastics, tin,

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metal or like tins and other
metals and aluminum cans.

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All of those are in
one box right now.

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Those essentially go to the
exact same place that our

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curbside mixed goes.

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So it's a lower value.

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It's just a lower separation.

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What we're doing and what we've
done at East already is we have

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a box for plastics, a box for
aluminum cans and a box for

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other metals, like other tins
and other things like that.

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What that does, in effect,
is those commodities split by

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themselves are a
much higher value.

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Aluminum itself is
nearly a dollar a pound.

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So it is very valued to sell,
very valuable to sell back that

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we are in the way that we've
been doing it, diluting that

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value incidentally.

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So this will effectively allow
us to not only directly market

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those materials coming from our
drop off sites, but market them

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at a much higher cost.

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Excellent. Good.

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Financial stewardship.

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Other comments or
thoughts for that?

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Um. Can we?

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I would love for this community
to this committee to have an

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opportunity to see how some of
this stuff actually happens.

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And I guess, let me back up one
more thing on the on the data.

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Are we now able to have a
report that I can find on the

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National Waste Services site
that says, we got this many

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pounds of this and it's going

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somewhere to be turned
into new carpet.

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We we can we can certainly
get those destinations.

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The, the active rolling tonnage
totals will be a little bit

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harder to get.

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We can actually update our
upstate, update our website

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with the destinations in

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products that they
already are getting.

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We can work towards having

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estimates of ten
inches or something.

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I think that's and I was going
to say that full data would be

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we would make available and uh,

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collect it for the
quarterly report.

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We're required as counsel.

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Okay. That's terrific.

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And that quarterly report will
have like x amount of tons X

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amount of revenue generated.

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Or is there anything that shows
like here's how much you know

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this recycling has earned.

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Let's practice.

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We can do that.

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We have I don't think we've
had that in previous quarterly

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because we we've been very
limited in the amount of data

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we were able to get from who
was managing our material.

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But we can we can do that as.

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Well, because I think that'd
be great for, you know, John

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Public to go online and see who
may be skeptical about costs

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and Rois to go back and see.

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All right.

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So this amount of aluminum
has generated this amount of

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revenue to the city.

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Certainly doing to you know,
the goal would be to get this

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to ultimately pay for itself.

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Could go, um,
anything else on KPIs.

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So any chance we
can get a tour or.

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Something, certainly, so we can.

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Obviously, those relationships
are still pretty new with the

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with these in-town
collection sites, but we can.

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We can certainly work on
putting that together.

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They've expressed in the past
willingness to do something

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like that.

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So it's a matter of getting it
scheduled and figuring it out.

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But we can we can work on that.

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Great. Is that.

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I mean, is that
if we set that up.

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Is that something
people could do?

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Yeah. Early in the
morning, later in the day.

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Is there a specific time
that's better or worse?

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Anybody got opinions
on that for me?

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Afternoons tend to be better,
but then Fridays I'm usually

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free all day.

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So.

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Any other opinions?

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I'll figure.

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It out.

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Okay? Yeah.

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Just send me dates and
I'll try to work it out.

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Yeah.

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Um, every day is
different, unfortunately.

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Yeah. Same with the
of the schedule for.

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Fortunately, I guess.

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Um, if this line of work.

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We can't really plan
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Um, we can do a.

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Few.

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Afternoons in general are

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better than mornings
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Mornings work too.

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We can make more contacts.

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The two kind of options would
either be the person, the

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company that's getting our
paper and cardboard right now,

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which is WestRock, they're in
North Nashville off of 19th

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19th Avenue North, I think,
uh, or, uh, who's getting our

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glass, which is recycling
services in Old Hickory.

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So nothing's too far.

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Yeah. And those are both
really interesting to see.

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Awesome. Okay.

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Anything else on first hand?

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Firsthand experience
update on illegal dumps?

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Yes. So, uh, my my team
actually was out, uh, sitting

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on illegal dumps today.

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Uh, and I had done an
investigation of a list of five

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addresses I had had a week or
two ago or something like that.

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Um, the biggest tool Waste
Services has in trying to help

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that issue would be our
private collection permits.

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Um, when we started the year,
we had 58 permitted haulers.

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Uh, people that haul trash
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Davis County.

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Uh, we had done a lot of
investigating and a lot of kind

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of compiling old lists that
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different databases.

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And we came up with ultimately
we think there's over 200 non

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permitted haulers out there.

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And so in late July, we sent
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250 of those telling them,
hey, this is metro code.

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You need to here's the
process you need to follow.

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You have 30 days before we

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start really doing
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And so that 30 days is
coming up pretty soon.

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And so we're going to be I'm
going to be on the phone.

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I've been on the phone already.

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We've heard from about 20 of
the ones we've sent out to um,

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and another probably 15 of
those there's told us they're

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they no longer operate
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We're bought and sold.

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Um, so we've made progress,
but pretty soon we'll be on the

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phone all the time calling
these contacts to let them

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know, uh, that we need we need
permits and need to know where

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they're taking the materials.

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And what they're picking.

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Correct. Right.

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So at that point, when we have
everybody permitted, we should

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be getting monthly reports from
all every holler that operates

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as to what they're picking up,
how much they're picking up or

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what they're dumping, how much
they're dumping, and where

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they're dumping.

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Gotcha. So all of that should
go together to give us really

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good data and be able to

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more get those folks under
compliance when it comes to

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their dumping wherever
they feel like.

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Yeah.

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That's that's fantastic.

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Okay. That is that's progress.

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Any thoughts or
comments on that one?

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Help me.

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The counselors that deal
with that, most are on other

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committees, but we're trying
to solve that one for them.

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Um, compost.

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I'd love to hear both about
the the pilot, which I think is

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just kind of ongoing.

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And then is there.

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Is there any update or can
we ask questions about the

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continuation of the
school program that yes.

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Curbside pilot is continuing?

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Well, we we obviously
every time people move.

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And so we always have a bit of
a fluctuating, uh, amount up to

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that 750 households.

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Have a waiting.

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List. We do have a waiting list.

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So whenever folks drop
off, we grab some more.

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So I think last time we
checked, we were at 746 or

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something like that.

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But we have very good
participation, a lot of

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frequent sell outs in
the in that program.

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And then when it comes to the
Maps program, we are in direct

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coordination with NPS
leadership to figure out how

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best they want to move forward
as, as to moving from their

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pilot program onward.

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But I will say maybe the most
significant thing so far, other

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than just conversations
inter-departmental, is we have

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submitted an application to the
US Conference of Mayors for a

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Healthy and Sustainable

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Communities grant
that would be 275,000

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to support three
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So that's 33 schools to have
composting service containers

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with cafeterias, fridges,
compost bags and training money

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as well, because it does take
a lot of on hand folks in the

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cafeteria when when lunch is
happening for the first little

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bit to make sure that everyone
knows what's happening But that

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application has already
received kind of the initial

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approval from the mayor.

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So you all will be seeing
it in the next meeting.

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Okay, great.

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And when would when
would that award happen?

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That I'm not sure.

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I think it's a rolling, but
I'll have to figure it out.

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Great. Thank you for doing that.

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Question on the
composting pilot.

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Has there been any discussions
while looking at, you know,

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planning for next year's
budget, expanding and opening

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more slots so that we can make
year over year, maybe increase

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it maybe 2 or 3% a year so that
we can get more people involved

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and not have a wait list.

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So not long ago, we actually
had just finished an organic

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feasibility study to see what
expansion of those programs

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would look like.

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The current model would be cost
prohibitive at scale, so we'd

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have to figure out another way

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to do it that would
be cheaper ultimately.

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So that study dove into it.

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I haven't seen it myself, but
we can we can generate some

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sort of report coming from that.

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I'd like to see some planning.

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Like, why would look like
to eventually take this?

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You know, at least cross USD,
but eventually countywide.

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Yeah. Um, yeah.

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If we could see either that
study or an executive summary

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or something.

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Yeah. We.

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Yeah we did.

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We recently finished that study.

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We also finished the last of
our four season poll for our,

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uh, uh, waste stream
categorization study.

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And so we have a much better
idea now with that done, of

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what exactly makes
up our stream.

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Right. And so you obviously
want to take kind of big

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potatoes before small potatoes.

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What are the what are the
biggest chunks we can take.

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We know that over over I
believe over 50% of our stream

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is construction and
demolition material over 50%.

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So a large percentage of what
is in our waste stream is,

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according to the EPA, you know,
90% recyclable in many cases.

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So, uh, that's a huge portion

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that we're looking
to, to tackle.

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Okay.

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90.

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EPA says that CND
materials roughly.

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Most most materials
are 90% recycled.

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Recyclable.

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What is that?

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What?

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So the concrete can be.

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Concrete, uh, drywall bracing.

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Masonry. Not so concrete.

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It's not totally
recyclable, but 90%.

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Correct?

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Correct.

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Yeah. If you have them, if you
have a ton of C and D material,

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you could you could assume that
the overall majority of that

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could be recycled
into something.

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Okay.

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Got it.

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What themes could.

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Be. And that makes up.

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We now know that that makes up
half or a little over half of

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our total waste stream.

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Got it.

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Half the game is
90% mental, right?

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The rest is.

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This is the practical
application of that aphorism.

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So we can do that.

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Awesome. Um.

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Anything else on compost?

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Um. Up and down.

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Solid waste region board.

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Because both council member
Bradford and, uh, um, applied

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to, to serve on that board and

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we are being
nominated and have to.

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Go down there.

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Hopefully we said we would
appreciate your vote for that.

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And that that enables us to
then talk with surrounding

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counties and, you know, and
look at the, you know, the big

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the big thing that drives
all of this is that there are

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landfills in other counties
where we are taking our waste.

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And those residents in those

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counties are, um, are over that.

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Um, and so anything we can do
to cut down that amount is a

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good thing in the regional
solutions, I think enable

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enable more things to happen.

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So we look forward to that.

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Also, the diversion ultimately
saves us money and saves the

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the more the local landfills
fill up, the farther we have to

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take it, the more expensive
it is to deal with it.

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And so it is a long game, but
ultimately, the more diversion

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we have, the more we'll save.

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Yeah.

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And everything we're doing
here in in Davidson County to

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compost, see if there's a way
to turn around and monetize

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that and say, all right,
instead of us sending our trash

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to you now, you can send it to
us for a fee, and we'll $6 and

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we'll fix it up.

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That's what's in here.

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There is a bill
about the yes fee.

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Yes. So yes Bill 2026 15/18
on first reading of three.

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It's a code.

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It's a code change.

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So ultimately we have two waste
generator fees in the code.

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One is for solid waste, one is

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for construction and
demolition material.

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Basically the state allows us
to charge a tip fee where if

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any waste is brought into the

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county or comp
leaves the county.

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Uh, that when it is tipped a
portion, a dollar per ton is

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owed to the county to to us.

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And so right now and the C and
D portion had been changed in

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2018 most recently.

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Uh, and so it does say if it
comes into the county or comes

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from the county, you charge,
you are charged that amount.

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What our current solid waste
portion says is there is a

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loophole to where if somebody
from out of the county brings

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it here, they technically
wouldn't have to pay it under

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certain under current code.

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So that's a that's.

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Pretty.

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Close to.

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Closing that loophole.

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So a that's against what
the CFD already says.

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And then B I mean that would
that kind of incentivizes folks

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bringing all their trash
into David's county.

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So feel free to sign on to
1518 if you if you feel.

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Like that's a would be a what
prohibits prohibits folks from

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coming in.

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But if they do come in now
we're generating revenue.

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Right. Because it's
taken up limited space.

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It's I think it's maybe
a 2 or 3 word change.

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It was just a very small
loophole in the text.

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I knew I couldn't find it
since I'm first reading.

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Okay. Other items to
come before the board.

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All right.

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We'll wait to hear from you

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about, um, getting
a tour set up.

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If we need to send out a doodle
poll to see what time's work,

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maybe we can look at 3 or 4
different times and try to get

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that set up.

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I think that would
be very educational.

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Sounds good for that one.

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Um. Anything else?

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If not, we are adjourned
in the meeting.