All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is 4
o'clock, so we'll go ahead and get the
meeting called to order for the August
meeting. I want to thank everybody for
being here. I know we've uh just got two
of us sitting here in person. We got
Commissioner Tiffens connected by phone.
He had a last minute work trip that he
had to had to take off and go out of
town for. So, he's connected by phone.
You can also see that because there's
two presentations during the work
session that are going to be done, he's
going to be able to to see the uh the
screens as they're going. So, um he
um but we'll we'll get things kicked off
here at 4:00. Um and as we get ready to kick off the meeting, one one quick
thing. I know that there was a weather
alert that came through just a few
minutes ago where we got put into a
severe uh weather watch for this
evening. So, hopefully it'll be a little
bit later, but they're popping up in
North Georgia from time to time. So, a
little bit later in the evening. I know
our our EMA director is already
scheduled kind of activating a couple of
people at the EOCC to monitor just in
case uh later this evening, but
hopefully hopefully this is one of those
that that just messes over all of us
completely. Um but with that, since I've
already talked about our EMA director,
Dr. Robbie Westbrook, I'm going to have
Dr. Westbrook do our invocation and
prayer and then beyond that, Mega
Weathers will lead us in.
>> Y'all will pray with me. Father God, we
thank you so much for the honor to serve
this county, Lord. God, we just ask you
to be with us as we make decisions and
do the things for the good people of
this county, Lord. God, we ask you to be
with the people that we know and love
that have lost loved ones or friends
over the last few weeks, Lord. We know
so many of them, and we just ask you to
keep their hearts full of uh peace and
love, Lord, as they navigate these
waters. God, go with us. Keep us all
safe. In the name of your son Jesus
Christ. Amen.
>> Amen.
>> To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
stands. One nation under God,
[clears throat] indivisible, with
liberty [groaning] and justice for all.
>> Thank you.
I always want to make a joke when I ask
somebody to lead the pledge is let's all
get turned around first because I miss I
pledge allegiance card each each month
when we start. I do it each each month.
Uh as we go through that um if you can
look at the agenda uh that there were
copies before for those that came in. I
know that at least it sent one to each
of the commissioners. So as we review
those for the approval for the agenda uh
I will entertain a motion for approval
of the agenda.
>> Motion to approve.
>> Second motion.
>> Motion and a second. Do you have any
discussion or questions related to it?
>> No.
>> With none. All in favor? I none
>> opposed then we'll move forward with the
agenda as it's been prepared to present
it. Uh the first item on there is the
director of internal operations report.
Uh it's kind of humorous that I asked
the director of internal operations to
be in another meeting at 4:00. So
because of that she's not in here. U the
development authority has a meeting that
got called at 4:00. So she's there uh on
behalf of the county. So, I'm going to
go through and attempt to do what Miss
McDow would would do for you just on an
update to a couple of the items uh
projects that are going on. One that's
not on here, but it's uh relevant when
we approved uh the the moving forward
with the purchase of property for the
public safety center that that property
closed on Friday. So, we now have the land that's there. We'll start
working through the process of of
getting all the final steps in place for
construction and getting those out the
bid like we did with the other two
projects plus projects uh at our last
meeting two weeks ago. Um so if you
notice when if you came in the front
door the the awnings are finally back
up. We had some wind damage to the
canvas awnings that were there before.
They've been replaced with metal. Uh
they finalized a little bit of of
caulking today and I think that we're finally finished with that one. Uh
airport FBO building construction is
still moving along. Uh they have an
anticipated furniture delivery to move
things in on September the 10th. So
we've kind of set the clock and I've let
the contractor know we're going to evict
him as soon as we can close to that date
to get him out and get us in. Um, I know
Stacy's looking forward to to being back
in in in space to where she has some
room to move. So, she's got that fire
station, Talking Rock, uh, station
number seven. Uh, work's continuing
[snorts] to be finished with the curb
installation, the power and fiber
connections, radio tower preparation,
water service signage, uh, and the low
voltage infrastructure. It is also on
target for midepptember as well for
being able to to take that building. Uh
the state has been working on some
renovations to the health department.
They they put out the bid to do some
interior redesign and they've just
awarded that to a contractor. So we're
hoping to see them finalize those steps
and get that up and going soon. Um
working on camera systems for the Cove
Road Recycling Center to get that all
taken care of. the conduit and outdoor
cabling has been installed. They're now
working on trying to finalize getting
those cameras in place and up and
running a little bit more more beefed up
than what we currently have. And uh
we're continuing to to work and that's
all on the property management side of
things. The finance side, we're
continuing to work through the 2027
budget process. I know that the tax
assessor's office completed the 45day
appeal window uh last week. They're
working through trying to enter all that
information in to try to get that digest
created over to the tax commissioner who
will then send it to us. So, we're we're
still working on getting that date
scheduled for millage conversation. And
that's that's a big key component on the budget process as we're going, but
we are working through each step with
the department heads and elected
officials that have provided those as
well. So, that is [clears throat] what's
going on on the internal operation side
of things. Um, [clears throat] I I'll
open it up for questions for the
director of internal operations and I'll
do my best because I meet with her
regularly to answer them. But, uh, if
you got any questions of any other
items.
>> I'm good.
>> All right. Well, we'll move from that on
into our public safety operations
report. We got Director Lrod here, so he
can kind of give us an update on what's
going on in the public safety world.
>> I know you're not going to believe this,
but 911 is still busy.
and honor blue. Um still still high call volume. Um on
the EMA side, we had a
multi-jurisdictional full scale exercise
on uh July the 30th at Harmony School.
We had a active shooter trainer uh that
entailed the county, the city and state
resources. Um a full action afteraction
report should be submitted in 45 days.
We need to do full scale operations
every few years. They have to turn in
the state. So um the wildat community
evacuation plan is near completion. Um,
emergency management county fire and the
wildcat community association has been
working for several months
um to not only develop the plan uh to
provide training to residents when
completed.
Um
plan to bring the community volunteer
agencies together during disaster
recovery has been completed. Uh the
Pickkins family connection led by Leslie
Long has agreed to be the primary agency
working uh with emergency management to
prepare
for the coordination of shelters,
donated goods, other unaffiliated
volunteers
and filling
the gap for other unmet human needs.
Um
other major contributors been pickings
collected and sheriff's office
authentic.
Uh pick skelly fire. I know that's hard
to believe. They're also been busy. Um
but they did do a lot of training last
month. They done 670 hours of training.
U
between vehicle extrication.
We've also started a paramedic class
with nine students in it running through
faithful guardian which will be a a big
asset for the county and surrounding
counties. There's a few in also
involved. Um
a EMT class is they're wrapping up
wood right now. We got all our engines
and stuff and running good. So,
y'all got the real wood up there.
>> Made the statement.
>> I did. I did. Well, that's why I set my
» Any questions for
the Wildcat community? Being at the high
elevation, the evacuation plan, you
almost want to say just go downhill and
you're going to work your way out
somehow.
Is Clayton is here. I shouldn't make that a joke because it is
a serious matter. But uh it's it's
always a challenge when you get into
some of those higher valuation areas and
how to set those evacuation plans
depending on where an incident occurs.
>> We're worried about the fire coming up.
>> Yeah.
>> Not going down.
>> Yeah, I know. That's why I regretted my
joke as I said it, but I it was too
late. I already let the words come out.
>> Um
>> so we actually have uh a guest here with
us today. We've been working closely
with DCCM uh engineering firm that's
been working with us on a variety of
projects, but one of the projects we
kind of tasked them with is to bring in
somebody that was outside independent
from either the county's water system or
the city's water system. We could go
back a few months where the city had
requested to kick off service delivery
negotiations
and made a request during that time for
us to consider or to look into the
consideration of acquisition of portions
of their territory that were outside the
city limits. Uh in an effort to to do
due diligence, we have requested DCCM to kind of help us with identifying what
that process should look like, could
look like, what the challenges were,
what the opportunities were. Um they
have got one of the one of the most
recognized individuals in the state of
Georgia that's working with them, Mr.
Chris Quickley in the water system. Uh
highly highly regarded as as one of the
best. And we've got the honor tonight of
having Mr. Quickley here with us. So uh
Chris, I'm going to turn the floor over
to you and allow you to give an update
as to what's going on with the process
and steps forward.
>> Thank you. Thank you, sir. So I'm a
water engineer. I've done this for 40
years. This is all I've ever done. So,
um, you have the accumulation of a lot
of mistakes and errors and and a bent
nose and some gray hair. Um, our role,
just to be clear, is to give good
advice.
They have a much harder job is you all
have to make a decision. In my mind's
eye, there are two you could go either
way decisions and they're both hard. Um,
I it reminds me of my grandmother's old
house right before she died and and you
go in and you look at the house, you go,
"Oh my god, what what are we going to do
with this thing?" And and this what
we're about to do reminds me of of that
experience. Um th this is the story.
This is Pickkins County.
Uh the blue lines on the perimeter are
the county's water lanes. The red lines
in in the center and towards the bottom
are the city's water manes. The pink is
the service area
of the city.
So in the service delivery strategy,
that's their area. The the green is the
city limits. Uh I just want to say
there's draft on every one of these.
This is a snapshot of our work in time.
It's based on information come coming
from a lot of different people. We try
to be as accurate as possible. And after
all these years, I'm pretty good, but
we're not perfect. So, if you see
something that is not 100% right, please
let us know and we'll we'll correct it.
This this graph freaks me out a little
bit. I love it. is we put monthly bill
on the left side and we put water usage
on the bottom and all we did was graph
who sells water in the county and how
much is it. We put a rectangle around
5,000 gallons. That's about average. And
if we go from lowest to highest, Jasper
inside the city and then it's up to
Pickkins County and then there's J
Jasper outside. I always put what does a
cell service your cell phone? How much
does that cost in Georgia? It's about
$90 for an individual.
Uh, and the reason why I put that on
there, your cell phone's real important,
but water is the number one important
thing in your life.
7 days, you're done. So, I I put that on
there just to give reference to it. Look
at the two private water systems, Bent
Tree and Big Canoe.
Those are some that's some some big
breaks. Uh, what does that mean in
dollar amounts? So Jasper inside the
city is about 50. Pickings County is
about 60. Jasper outside 70. The cell
phone's at 90. But look at Bentry 122.
And Big Cano is about 160. Those are
significant uh those are significant
bills. I show you the money because
there's rumors that the city is going to
privatize their water system. Privatize
means profit. Somebody gets a profit. I
am all for privatization
if the municipality is dysfunctional
because we're talking about water and
what you pay for it. My preference
though is to fix the municipality and
get it to run locally because there's no
shareholders getting money. They just
plow them the excess funds back into the
system and make it as good as it can be.
So that's that graph shows all. I'm
sorry for how wordy it is, but it's that
was that's a neat graph to do. When I
started, just so you know, it was about
a dollar a,000 gallons and a $10
initiation fee. So you were talking
about $15 and now we're talking what?
160.
Um, this I'm sorry for all the words,
but I put a rectangle around the the
most important thing. This is the
Jasper's water audit highlights. And
what it shows is they're losing about
50% of their water. So, they'll make 100
gallons and they'll lose 50 of them,
which is absolutely crazy. In the state
of Georgia, a normal water system will
lose 10 to 12%.
They say if it's less than 10%, they're
not really telling the truth. And a lot
of systems are are at the 15%.
So that's when we walk around into a
system and say, "Hey, are we in good
shape?" This would be alarm.
Something needs to be done right quick.
And look, it's been going on. I don't
have any data before 2019, but this has
been going on a long time. Ouch.
So, we got with uh our understanding is
the city wants to get rid of the areas
outside the city limits. We put uh areas
that made sense and we we we number
them. And then what we did is we just
looked at area two. Let's keep life
simple and let's see what area two says.
This is the Cove Road area. You can see
the limits of the county water in blue
and then the city is in red.
And what does that look like? Well,
there's a master meter with Pickkins
County which is in the bottom right hand
corner. There's only 47 customers.
That that blew my mind. [clears throat]
There's two pump stations, booster pump
stations. So, what happens? Water's at
this level and when you go up a hill and
you go too far, you got to pump up to
it. And then this area goes so much
higher, you got to pump up to that one.
So, you're double pumping.
Um, water manes, there's about 51,000
linear feet. There's 34 hydrants, and
[clears throat] there's about 40 valves.
That's what we could find. We did a
quick inventory.
On the left hand side is the master
meter with Pickkins County. And then
these are just water meters that we ran
by and took a picture.
I always thought what your water meter
looks like, what folks can see generally
says, hm, how am I how am I maintaining
my system?
Pump stations. So there's two pump
stations. There's the bigger one on the
left. in the point where it is and it
pumps up to the upper system and then
the little ones on the right and then
there's a bladder tank somewhere in the
upper system that that's used to store a
little bit of water.
These facilities are not the greatest. I would not want to go around and show
everybody my great pump stations. Th
this stuff needs some work to be brought
up to date.
Oh, I always tell people stuff like this
is like a giraffe taking a drink of
water. You know how vulnerable they are?
This is a giraffe taking a drink of
water. This is going to happen at 2:00
in the morning, Christmas Eve. The
superintendent's going to get a call
from folks. We have no water.
Um the pipe, the 51,000 ft. I got 1,000
ft of galvanized. Don't want it. Um
polyethylene 2,000. I got 3,000 ft of 2
inch. I don't even know what it is. I
have 6 in some C900 PVC and 8 inch C900
PVC. That is great pipe if it's
installed correctly. It'll last a long
time. It's a good product. Um I I don't
like galvanized in my mind. Where's 50%
of the water going? You know what I
mean? So, alarm alarm. That that's that
2-in pipe is is where I would focus on.
And then we got 34 hydrants. Hydrants to
me are like like the meter boxes. What
do they look like? Uh the left one is a
little messed up. The middle one's
tilted back. The fire chief probably
wouldn't even connect to that. That's a
little dangerous having one so so out of
whack.
Um, and then the right one I got the
valve in front is popped up off the
ground.
Uh, the 40 valves on the one we got
valves hanging up. I got a just a PVC
pipe and I got ones surrounded by cones.
Um,
what what are some concerns we see? I
got low customer count. There's only
five per mile.
There's a lot of issues with that. is a
is could this thing pay for itself at
five people per mile?
>> And then when you treat water at the
water plant, you put chlorine in it and
the chlorine you want to get to the tap
cuz chlorine means there's disinfection.
Do I really think five customers per
mile is going to be? So just alarm bells
are going off of, hey, that's a little
bit concerning. There's definitely
limited fire protection, especially on
those small lines. And to me,
significant improvements are needed to
this infrastructure to keep it in good
working order. [snorts]
And what does that mean? I would install
a new master meter at the Jasper city
limit. So, I would keep this one here,
but I would put a new one way over here
if I was going to take over this system.
I would I would put a master meter in
there and then I could still sell water
to the city as they needed it. The
customer meters, I would replace their
meters and make sure they're on ours. I
would fix the meter boxes. I would make
sure they look good and everybody's
reassured. The booster pump stations,
obviously, they need to be renovated. U
water main replacement, I'd go right
after the galvanized and the unknown.
Um, hydrants. I would put some hydrants
in on the dead end line so I could flush
them. Remember we talked about that
chlorine issue. Um, I would do valve
maintenance. I would uncover. There's, I
think, a lot out there. They're just
paved over. And I would put some valve
markers so our operations folks could
find them easily. And then I would put
in valves so that I could isolate little
areas. So if I had a water man break
here,
say here, I could have a valve here and
just close that line and just those
folks get uh impacted.
All right. So I'm like an animal
on four big things.
I love good funding. I love grants and
really, really low interest loans.
I like to grow the customer base because
the more folks we have on it, it's
cheaper to run it per customer.
I like to make improvements that reduce
operating costs.
So, what are things that we can do to
make the operations easier
um and and and lower those costs and
focus focus focus. How do I reduce water
loss and improve the efficiency of the
system? So everything I talk about, I
want to do those four things as much as
possible.
Um, this is an interim report, but I'm a
funding animal.
And the way the grants work, I tell
people it's like going to the senior
prom in high school. I had to ask for
girls, but I finally got one to say yes.
Grants are like that too. You have to
ask and ask and ask and you might get a
no, but eventually you'll get you'll get
a yes. Last year our company hit the
mother boat of grants like like once in
a generation. My advice to all our
clients is submit submit submit ask ask.
Why am I bringing that up? There's a
deadline for a planning grant
and the first thing the grant people
want to know is
what's wrong and what are you going to
do about it and what's it cost?
Well, to put that planning document
together, they just come out with a
grant that they'll cover 90% of the
cost. So if the commissioners are going
to take any action, I think you should
authorize the grant submitt for the
planning document. Let me keep going.
The other thing on number two, I love a
water service petition. So what we do is
we send a note to everybody in that
number two area and say, "Hey, the
countyy's thinking about working with
the city, taking over this area. would
you be interested in tying on to the
water system? And the county wants to
make improvements so the system's more
reliable and more efficient. Are you on
board?
What that tells us is, hey, maybe we can
double how many people we serve and
reduce the cost for everybody. I need to
complete the project planning documents.
I need to finalize cost estimates to do
that work.
That planning document gets submitted to
I think it's seven agencies
and they they do this and what they do
is they give you a coupon that says you
have environmental clearance to do all
that work and you can do it in the next
five years. Why do I want that? When we
go to submit for grants to do the work,
they give you points for having your
environmental clearance. So, I want to
play the game as fast as I can and get
that in my back pocket ready to go. And
then what we do is we submit for the
grant application for the work that
needs to be done. Can we do everything
at once? The funding people want you to
do everything at once. They hate me
because I don't want to do everything at
once. I want to do the most critical
things now and get the biggest grant I
can.
Then I come back later
and then I do the most important things
and I get the biggest grant I can. They
only want to give you a one grant and
have you do a giant project and I want
to do projects in increments of the
grant a maximum grant amount. Does that
make sense? So it takes a little bit of
time but we get pointed in a good
direction and we just take steps and
move forward.
Um, number three, the number one thing I
think is the hardest thing we're going
to talk about is we need to negotiate
system operation ownership with the
city. Are they going to just give it to
us and say you take it over? Are they
going to try to charge us an arm and a
leg for it? I have helped people
purchase water systems before. Um, you
know, I told the the chairman before,
you know, when uh Sandy Springs became a
city, Fulton County tried to charge them
for the police stations and the fire
stations and the parks. And people said,
"Does that make any sense?
The people who lived in those areas
already paid for those facilities."
And and I would argue the same thing
here. the people in area 2 have already
paid for those improvements. So, whoever
operates it really should take over
ownership. That's my opinion. If I was
on the city side, I might argue
differently, but I'm on this side, so I
want to be honest. And then implement
prior
priority improvements as favorable
funding becomes available. Remember,
that's the prom date. It might not
happen today.
It might happen next year, but we just
have to be ready and we have to ask.
That's all I have. This is just a
snapshot in time of where we are and the
only action I ask the county to take is
authorize us to submit for that planning
grant and let's be keep focused and try
to proceed with with all of this as
quickly as possible. Awesome. Any
questions there?
>> So, I'll open it up to to you and Josh.
>> I don't think so at the moment. I
probably will come up with some as I
look
>> as we're as we're sitting. Well, since I
went out of order in the agenda and I've
got to call Bill up afterwards because
he thought he got out of it.
>> He can blame Ashley for pointing out
that I had bypass him. So, if he gets
upset,
do you have any any questions? Mr.
>> I don't think so right now. I'm taking
them. I will probably have some as I
think [laughter] on this
>> as you go. Uh I know with that deadline
being on the 31st that will require us
making an amendment to the agenda that
if we were going to get into the voting
portion of the meeting that we would
need to amend the agenda to authorize
the submittal of that grant application
for a planning grant through GE I
believe it was.
>> Yes sir.
>> Okay. Um so that that could be met by
the deadline. that would be the only
thing that I I can see that we would
need to to take action to be able to do
would be an amendment to the agenda. Um,
as we move forward, um,
and I know Mr. Quigley kind of
introduced and and stated and even had
this is draft in the format. We've we've
been in discussions back and forth.
They've been they've had a couple of
different meetings with the city to try
to pull some information over. It is
preliminary, but at the same time, we
wanted everybody to understand and
especially for you too as the the two
post commissioners to understand each
step that's been working through so that
as we kind of get closer to the next
meetings and the next steps as as this
progresses or as the news continues to
go, then it it shows these steps are
being taken. Um, I do think that that
getting that funding grant would give
the ability to to truly have a game plan
together cuz if anybody we go to to
request funding uh from a grant is going
to going to want to see a solid plan in
place and not just any help
statement. So,
>> anything further?
>> Thank you. We really appreciate you
coming and making that presentation. Um,
as I mentioned just a moment ago, I did
uh skip over our director of external
operations report and uh just
inadvertently as I was doing the final.
So, I'm going to have Bill give the the
report from the director of external
operations before we we move to the
public hearing. That's better.
» Um, [clears throat] all right. So, last
month because we were in paving season,
we focused on public works.
All those are complete. the Haven's
complete, the strike is complete. So
what we thought we would do today is
talk a little bit about sort of quasi
growth oriented things and then also
compliance enforcement. So first from
quasi growth looking at some things that
are going on in planning and development
uh for so far in August uh we have 25
building permits that have been issued,
one commercial. Uh that's behind the
July pace which ended the month with 61
building permits and 40 commercial
business licenses in August. So far
there have been 11 that have been
issued. That's on on pace with July
where 22 were issued for the entire
month in the Pickkins County water
service areas that are serviced by the
county water department. And so far in
August, there have been five meters that
have that that have been installed. July
there were [clears throat] seven. So
it's ahead of pace on that. So that's
sort of what's going on from the
standpoint of what's happening with
regard to new things that that that are
going up uh and being done from a
compliance and enforcement standpoint.
So far uh as of about 1:00 today, uh
we've had 25 formal written complaints
this month. that have been formally
filed. U some of those have been
cleared, some of those have been um are
still in process and some are simple,
some are fairly complex. Uh but but
everyone is working together on this uh
led led by uh by Brandy, our um
enforcement uh chief enforcement
officers, really really really doing a
good job on this. Um they're they're of
different types. Some involve animals,
not dogs and cats, but other kinds of
animals. Um a lot involve involve
soil erosion uh and sedimentation. And
we've gotten a couple that have tried to
get the county to enforce neighborhood
covenants inside subdivisions. We can't
do that. As a matter of fact, we've got
an ordinance that prevents us from doing
it. But uh but nonetheless they they do
come up. Sometimes you may get calls
from people that say why can't why can't
the staff do this? So basically we we uh
we can't. And then lastly on the
enforcement standpoint we do have a lot
of soil erosion and sedimentation items
that comes up frequently probably in
addition to
illegal camping and accumulation. This
is what we get the most of and some of
it some of it's min or some of it's
serious but uh Emily Grant Brandley just
received their red cards from Georgia
soil and water erosion. Um and that
brings our red card total inside to
eight. That's a lot for a government
this size. And what a red card does is allow people to go and formally
inspect situations like this and take
whatever action is is provided for to to
correct the situation.
» Sorry, but I I passed you earlier.
>> The reason it made it humorous, his
internet went out in his office earlier
today. He kept telling me that meant he
couldn't provide a report, but then we
got the internet back up. same work. I'm
preparing the report and I still
skipped. So, uh that that was why I was
trying to get back to it.
>> The assistant director of external
services will be providing the report.
[laughter]
» Do I have any questions for external?
>> I've got
a great job as always.
>> Thank you. Uh, next item on our agenda
is to open up a public hearing. One of
the things within our ordinance, anytime
there's a down zone that's going to a
lower density, it gives a faster process
to be able to come before the board
finishes straight for that public
hearing and not having to go and wait
the extra month for a planning
commission. So, I'm going to turn the
floor over to Charles and let Charles
take on the down zone.
see if he wants me to be as quick or if
he wants a quick
» I'll turn the floor over to you to
introduce and then we open up for any
comments that anyone may have.
[clears throat]
» Good afternoon or good evening
commissioners. Uh the case before you is
referenced as BDZ-191196
Tom Lake Trestle Farm and Ranch LLC. Uh
the location of the property is 7864
mile Church Road. Uh the applicant is
requesting a down zone uh from rural
residential to uh agricultural. Uh the
approximate acreage is 6.12 acres. Uh
the parcel is identified as uh 068071
and the applicant uh is requesting to
combine uh that particular track into
two neighboring tracks.
You find the location map
and that is the aerial u of the uh
subject property. Uh this property is
located within uh the crossroad
community uh Marble Hill character area.
If I may read uh our staff analysis.
Uh the purpose of the resoning is uh to
allow the parcel to be combined with
adjoining agricultural parcels creating
one larger farming tract uh for
continued residential or I'm sorry
continued agricultural use. Uh the the
request qualifies as a lower density
amendment under section 67-691
of the Pickkins County Code of
Ordinances uh which encourages reszoning
to lower density land use
classifications. Uh the proposed
downzoning reduces future residential
development potential while preserving
farmland and open space thereby
promoting the public health, safety and
general welfare. uh staff finds that the
proposed resoning is compatible with the
surrounding area which is primar
primarily agricultural rural residential
and open space. Uh the request also
supports the crossroads community Marble
Hill character area by preserving
farmland, maintaining rural uh character
and encouraging lower density land use.
In addition, the zoning request is
encouraged uh as I said earlier under
section 67-691
of the Pickkins co uh county code of
ordinances uh because uh the request
reduces potential residential
development intensity. Uh no additional
impacts to roads, utilities, schools, uh
emergency services, or other uh public
facilities are anticipated. Uh therefore
staff's recommendation is approval of
the resoning request uh from rural
residential to agricultural.
>> Thank you Mr. Reese.
>> Any questions for ME before we open up
the sounds.
» So with that I'll uh I'll ask if Mr.
swimming. I don't know if you've got
something you'd like to add or say. Do
you need the opportunity to speak first?
>> Uh, no sir. I'm his oldest son, so I'm
just here on behalf of him.
>> Okay. All right. Uh, any other uh
individuals that would like to speak for
or against? We'll open up the public
hearing portion for any any public
comments for anyone for or against.
Since none of you said that you had any,
I don't have to explain the rules of the
public comments. So we uh we can move
forward. Yes sir.
>> Yeah. If pending approval or or assuming
this is approved that is that contingent
upon that parcel being adjoined with the
u the neighboring a tract.
>> No it is not. It would just move it to a
so that it makes it possible for the two
to to be joined together.
>> Okay. But that would be a nonconforming
act if it's not joined after we approve
it. Correct.
>> Correct.
So I guess my question is is is
that part of the recommendation from the
planning office or is that the
stipulation we need to include if we
make that motion?
>> You can include that as a stipulation.
Uh but the intent was to combine that
track to the uh two neighborhood tracks.
>> Okay. Thank you.
» Does that change your thoughts as to any
comments?
>> Okay. I just want to double check. Uh
with that then I'll entertain a motion
to close the public hearing.
>> I'll make so move the motion.
>> Move in a second. All in favor?
>> None oppose. We'll close the public
hearing at this time. U as is indicated
on the agenda. What we're going to do is
go into a recess until 5:30 so that we
can move into the voting meeting portion
that'll get the development authority
time for their meeting to be finalized
and we can then move into our 5:30
meeting and go through the agenda. So if
you're hungry, go grab a bite if you got
time and we'll meet you back here at
5:30. Thank you.
>> All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is
5:30. So we'll go get the meeting called
back to order. Coming out of recess. So,
thank you everybody for being here with
us. Again, if you weren't here for the
work session portion of me, thank you
for coming. Um, we're going to go
straight into our agenda. Before we do
so, I know that one of the discussion
topics is we had a presentation during
the work session was the consideration
of adding an item to our agenda. Um, so
I would like to make a motion that we
amend our agenda. Under new business,
add item E. And item E would be to
authorize the chairman to work with our
engineers to submit a grant application
for a planning grant through GEA on
water acquisition
uh to working with PCCM to authorizing
that approval to be able to move forward
with sending the application. There's a
deadline at the end of August for that.
Um, so if if you got so I'd like to add
that item as item B [snorts]
on the agenda as we move forward.
» I'll make a motion that we do that. Do I
have
>> I'll second motion. Any discussion or
questions related to that?
All in favor?
>> None. [clears throat] That motion
carries.
We will have item E on the agenda. It
will not be on the screen. So, I will
apologize in advance as we go through.
That will be one I will call out and
Lisa will probably have to correct me
where I miss it and she will make sure
that I stop and come back. Uh, one of
the favorite parts of our meetings is to
get to get through and do our employee
recognitions. Um, we do have a couple of
very valuable employee recognitions
today.
The first is is uh one that we want to
make sure she understands that she's an
incredible employee of our water
department because unfortunately she's
an incredible baker as well and makes
cakes and pies and cupcakes and we want
her to understand the need for staying a
government employee [clears throat] and
not trying to venture out on her own uh
to be successful at that. But Miss
Crystal Schutz has got 10 years of
service with the county. So, I'd like to
ask Crystal and Philip if y'all come up.
[laughter]
[applause]
If anybody's never had any of the sweets
that she makes, that is diabetes.
[laughter]
Sorry. No, you're good. You're good.
[laughter]
» Where do I go to get water?
» Yeah. [laughter]
» Okay. Now, here
» I don't EITHER.
>> [applause]
» SO, THE next we actually have employee
recognition that we make is is one that
we we don't get to make very often. Um,
and fortunately, sometimes people get
hired on when they're very very young
and they stay with the county for a long
time and and unfortunately for him, even
though he gets to celebrate his 30
years, he's still too young to retire.
So, we do have Captain Shane Patrick
with the sheriff's office here. Pete has
now been with the county for 30 years
serving uh and serving in a law
enforcement capacity. Has done an
incredible job. We have the opportunity
now to to have Shane over here with us a
lot helping with some of the code
enforcement issues and and things on
behalf of the sheriff's office. Uh I've
worked with him for many many years.
Probably the most dangerous thing you
will ever see me do in a board meeting
is about to occur, but I'm going to ask
Chief Deputy Jeff Hall
to speak and say a couple words. uh
about it and have you come up.
[cheering]
[applause]
» We're here to talk about water.
[laughter]
» Let me tell everyone here and anybody
that's going to watch here, every
employer should strive to have number
one, someone as great as Shane Padet to
work for him. Number two, stay. Because
when you have employees who stay, they
become vested in the community, vested
in the agency, vested in whatever it is.
And when you have that, you have a
well-rounded employee like we did with
Shane. I was there when he was hired in
1996.
He has stayed here consecutively. I did
not. I left and came back. He's probably
the longest running employee ever for
the sheriff's office. 30 years that
wasn't an elected official.
>> And for that is a lot. And for us, we
are proud, very proud to have him. And
he's been a pleasure and a friend. And I
thank you. [applause]
» [cheering]
» All right.
>> Got to get a little closer. [laughter]
» Don't get that side. It doesn't look
good. [laughter]
» Way to go, Sham.
» Awesome.
>> So, thank y'all so much. Thank you. So,
we have one more that's not necessarily
an employee recognition. It's actually a
recognition of the county. We referenced
it two weeks ago uh right after the
award was presented. Now Stacy had
attended a [snorts] a meeting with
Georgia Department of Transportation
where two different u individuals with
DOT had actually submitted Pickkins
County as an outstanding sponsors for
the airport. Uh Stacy was recognized
there. She was not with us when we had
our meeting two weeks ago. So we didn't
have the plaque to be able to present
her show. So, because she didn't show up
two weeks ago, I'm going to make her
stand up front in a second.
[laughter]
And she's so excited to do this that
she's uh she's never going to talk to me
again. [laughter]
Please come up. You get to get this
presented to you one more time.
[applause]
around
[laughter]
[applause]
[laughter]
gives me a hard time, but in all
reality, she's one of my favorite
people. So, you have to correct me out
here. one of your favorite pictures.
>> That's true. But she would worry if I
>> That's exactly right.
>> But no, it's it's an honor to get a
chance to to recognize employees for
their outstanding work for all that they
do. We're extremely excited to get a
chance to do that at each of our
meetings. I know I have one more
elected. I'm just making sure he didn't
have an employee who's here to recognize
before, but he's not paying attention.
So, I'm ass.
>> Daniel, do you have anybody for this
month? Okay. All right. So, I didn't
want to move past that if there was
anybody else. Uh, next item is our
consent agenda. We did have one
proclamation since we met last, and that
was a proclamation for National Health
Center Week. Uh, the week of October 2nd
through the 8th. Uh, was was proclaimed
as National Health Center Week here in
Dickens County. And that was signed on
July the 23rd, 2026. I want to make sure
to get that on the record in the
minutes. So, we'll move on to our new
business with no old business. Um, new
business. The first item on the agenda
is the consideration or to consider the
adoption of a resolution authorizing the
execution of various documents related
to the issuance of the Pickkins County
Development Authorities taxable revenue
refunding bonds for airport project
series 2026,
including a bond purchase agreement and
intergovernmental contract with the
authority with the development
authority. Uh, we do have uh bond
council that's here with us tonight, Mr.
Tommy Ratchford. So I'm going to have
Tommy go through just a brief
explanation of the documents fully u
wherever you flex
my papers so that uh thank you for the
introduction
with Murray Barnes Minister
Council on this transaction. Um and the
caption is read Mr. gentlemen is is a
fair summary of the resolution that's
before you, but I thought it'd be
helpful maybe to give a little bit of
context and background on how we got
here and what it means. Um so while this resolution authorizes execution of
the documents related to the development
authorities uh bond issue uh for the
airport project series 2026
um and so what those bonds are being
issued for um is to refund bonds that
were issued in 2018 and 2021 by the
development authority and the reason
that refunding is being pursued um is
steel um the county's investment banker
has been monitoring uh rates and
potential savings savings um related to
those bonds given they were issued at
relatively high rates and while interest
rates have been rising there still
significant savings um refunding those
previously issued bonds um to put some
sort of numbers behind those statements
um the bonds we're refunding are the
series 2018 bond and the series 2021
bond um they bore interest or they bear
interest at six and 7 and a half%
respectively
um and the development authority um and
the county's investment banker sold
bonds this morning in the market they
carried a blended yield of 5.36%.
So um there were savings in each and
every year and what that means net to
the county is the debt service payments
in aggregate of $575,000
lower than they would have been um if
you were to leave those bonds
outstanding. Um so a little bit earlier
this evening, the development authority
um adopted a resolution um supplementing
the resolution from July 6th that
provided for the terms that the the
bonds would carry name interest rates,
the yields and the principal amounts.
And the resolution before you tonight um
acknowledges receipt of that resolution
and the terms of said resolution and
authorizes execution of the collateral
documents necessary to complete the bond
or the bond transaction. Um and most
importantly those are the
intergovernmental contract pursuant to
which the county agrees to make the
payments on those bonds and the bond
purchase agreement which authorizes the
sale of the bonds to people who then in
turn sells them to the public. Um so
with that I'm happy to answer any
questions um at this time.
>> So just to clarify the one in 18 the
rate was 6%.
>> Yes sir.
>> And the one in 21 the rate was 7.5.
>> That is correct. And then you're
thinking the rate will get will be
around 5.36.
Is that what you said?
>> So
you're not a math guy, but um the way
the numbers work is essentially there's
a fixed um coupon and yield for each
maturity. So that there are maturities
from 2027 through 2041. The coupons
range from 4.25% to 5.75%.
So when you blend those all together,
it's 5.36% is the blended yield on those
bonds. So in any event, each one is
lower than the corresponding coupon.
>> And given on that one, the 6%, it would
still save us money to do it versus just
paying it off. Correct. That still the
better choice with that.
>> Yes, sir. You are saving money in each
of those years.
>> I had thought that that document was in
ours, but that was actually in the
development authorities approval.
>> Would you like my copy? I'd say so if
so you can see
it [clears throat] shows the interest
rates per year on there.
>> Remind me of what the bonds were used
for originally.
>> So the construction of the hangers that
were there and then also for the the
terminal and for other improvements
throughout the airport property. So the construction of the county own
hangers is the primary purpose and then
the terminal construction is the
remaining.
>> That's exactly right.
Mr. Tippets, any questions for Mr.
>> I have none. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much for your assistance.
>> There aren't any further questions. I
ask that I'll entertain a motion to
adopt the resolution presented.
>> All right. So we'll open that up for the
floor for a motion for the approval of
the resolution to authorize the
governmental agreement with the develop
authority and the signature of all
documents necessary to do so.
>> I make a motion to approve second
motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions
with none? All in favor?
>> I
none opposed. That motion carries.
We'll pass this to the clerk as a
clerk's signature portion on there as
well. Uh, next item on the agenda is the
consideration and approval of a sub
lease for hanger B1 at Pickles County
Airport. We do have an application. Uh,
Mr. Spencer Langford is the tenant of B1
and he has provided the application and
all necessary information for a sub
lease to Mr. Gregory Phelps. all uh of
the the research the work that was
necessary from staff has been completed
and they've recommended the approval of
the subleas. So at this time I'll make a
motion to approve the sub lease of
hanger B1 Mors. Do I have a second?
>> Second
motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions?
>> All in favor?
>> None. The motion carries.
Next item on the agenda is consideration
and approval of HO2 land lease at the
Pickkins County Airport. We do have um
Joel and Sherry Little submitting their
application for the lease of HO2. This
was a previously owned
private hanger uh that is now being sold
to the littles.
This would have been good if I would
have like highlighted each one of those
pages. Um the uh Lessor is Living to Fly
LLC is the um name of the LLC and it's
going to be one of the hangers at 22
cents per square foot which would
generate $236.72
annually for the land use of that
hanger.
With that, I'll entertain a motion for
approval based on the staff's
recommendation to approve.
>> Motion to approve.
>> Second the motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions
with none? All in favor?
>> I [clears throat] none
>> opposed.
Next item on the agenda is consideration
and approval of an application for
approval of site for use changes at 8:16
at the Pikman County Airport. We have uh
the Titan group has reached out
regarding putting the fence along the
front of their leased space uh where
their hanger is. So that with that
improvement, they've submitted an
application. It will be a
>> [snorts]
>> um a four black
slack
a [laughter] a traditional fence like
you would see it. It's got four four
rows that go through there. of looking
at the language there uh that would
connect to the gate where you access and
enter into the hanger space is there. Uh
with that I'll entertain a motion for
the approval for the allowance of the
site improvements at uh H16.
>> Motion to approve second motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions
with none? All in favor?
>> None opposed. That motion carries.
All right. Then our amended item that
we've put on the agenda E which somehow
I actually talked before I advanced the
slide to go forward and that is uh as we
discussed during the the work session
earlier the authorization of the
chairman to work with DCCM and sign all
necessary documents to submit a grant
application with JIFA for a planning
grant to work on water acquisition.
With that, do I have a motion for
approval? Motion to approve.
>> A second. Motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions?
>> All in favor?
>> None opposed. That motion carries.
Next item on the agenda is the approval
of our minutes. We do have a handful of
minutes u because we did have a regular meeting on July the 20th that
had an executive session, work session,
and regular meeting. Then we had a call
meeting on August the 4th. I know that
our clerk has submitted these minutes to
each of you guys for review prior to
coming in today so you have a chance to
read through those. I will do them by
date for the July 20th. So all three of
the different um items on the July 20th
meeting date. I'll entertain a motion
for approval for those three sets of
minutes.
>> Motion to approve. Second motion.
>> Motion. Second. Discussion or questions?
All in favor? I.
>> None opposed. The motion carries. And
then the next would be our call meeting
on August the 4th, 2026. I'll entertain
a motion for approval of those minutes
as well.
>> Motion to [clears throat] approve.
Second motion. A motion and a second.
Any discussion or questions?
>> All in favor?
Next item on our agenda is to go through
our reszones. We do have a handful of
reszones that we will go through.
[clears throat]
Uh we'll start with RZ191163
being a J heater. It's a 86 highway 136
connector. A request to move a 13.32
acre track from a to highway business.
The application was received for the
intended purpose of the resome request.
It was to allow it for commercial use.
Public hearing was conducted on July the
13th before the planning commission.
After receiving the application and the
staff recommendation for approval, the
planning commission voted three yes, one
no uh to recommend approval to the board
of commissioners. With that, I'll
entertain a motion uh from either of you
on which way you proceed.
>> I make a motion to approve with the
following condition. Um if the property
is used for a gas station or other
retail store, it must be a minimum of
six 3-in trees planted around the
parking lot. If property is used for a
storage facility, it must be surrounded
all sides by plenty of large evergreen
shrubs, 6' tall planting on 10t centers,
and all lighting must be downward
facing.
I'm hoping you have that in writing so
make sure you have that motion correctly
identified. Uh there is a motion on the
floor. Do I have a second as presented?
>> I'll second the motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions?
None. All in favor?
I guess I'll ask Commissioner.
You spoke with the property owner and
they were agreeable to those.
>> Yes, I did.
Thank you. This afternoon,
>> any other discussion, questions?
None. All in favor?
>> None oppose. That motion carries.
Approval [snorts] with conditions as
presented. Next item on the agenda is a
reason request 91179
from Landmark Property Services LLC on
Highway 53 East. to request to move an
8.1 acre track from a to rural
residential. The intended purpose in the
application received for the reszone if
approved was to create buildable lots.
Public hearing was held on July the 13th
where staff recommended approval and the
planning commission voted for yes a zero
no uh to recommend approval before the
board as well. I would like to make a
motion that would follow the staff and
the pling commission's recommendation
for approval.
Do I have a second?
>> Motion.
>> Have a motion. Second and we'll bring it
to the floor for discussion, questions.
All in favor?
>> All oppose?
>> No.
>> In the event of the tie, it brings me to
the top rate. So, I will vote in favor
as well. So, that will be a two to one
in favor for approval following that
recommendation.
Next item on the agenda is RZ191180.
Uh it's an application from Ricky and
Tammy Jared. That's uh at 1057 Highway
108. Uh request to move a 10acre track
from a to rural residential. The
intended purpose of the reszone request
was to create a buildable lot. The
public hearing was conducted on July the
13th [clears throat] uh where staff
recommended approval. Planning
commission voted four yes zero no to
recommend approval as well. With that,
do I have a motion from the floor?
>> Motion to approve.
>> Second the motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions?
>> All in favor?
>> None. The motion carries.
Next is the one that we had during our
um
during the earlier part of our meeting
when we had the public hearing is the
word I'm trying to think of. Uh for the
down request from Tunnel Trussell Farm
and Ranch. Uh there was an application
received at 786 for Mile Church Road to
move a 6.12 [clears throat] acre track
from rural residential to agriculture.
Um the [clears throat] intended purpose
is to combine it with the other
agricultural track that was present on
the property as well. Um with that I
will entertain a motion from the floor.
>> A motion to approve.
>> Second motion.
>> A motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions?
>> Do we need to make a condition of the
motion that they do combine it or do we
not need to do that?
>> It's their plan too, but making it as
part of the motion.
>> I think we should. So, it's so I need to
motion.
>> All right. So, Commissioner Tatum has
now amended his motion to a motion to
approve with the condition that it does
get combined with the neighboring
agricultural property to form that lot.
I have a second on the motion as it's
been amended.
>> I'll second the motion.
>> All right. So, I have a motion and a
second. Discussion or questions?
With all in favor I
>> we'll make a note to make sure that that
gets updated on there with the correct
language that likes.
Okay.
Next item on the agenda is a resolution
to reappoint Mr. Kim Fowler and Pat
Holmes to serve on the planning
commission. Uh they continue to serve.
This would put their expiration for
their terms to December the 31st, 2029.
Um, do I have a motion for reappointing
of Mr. Fowler and Miss Holmes?
>> Motion to approve.
>> Second motion.
>> Motion and a second. Any discussion or
questions?
With none, all in favor?
» Let's put it close. Next item on the
agenda is uh for the appointment of Miss
Denise Owen to serve on the board of
elections. We had one member from the
Republican party who had stepped down
from his service on the um board of
elections. That was Mr. Ed Greyhouse. I
think Ed did a a fantastic job and has
been an asset to to serve in that that
difficult role. Um but he has decided
that he was going to step down. As part
of um the the procedure, we received uh
recommendations from the Republican
party with names to choose from and Miss
Denise Owen has been selected to be that
uh candidate to put forward before the
board. That would be for a term that
would be appointed this date through
January the 1st, 2028.
With that, do I have a motion to appoint
Miss Owens to the board of elections?
Second.
motion motion and a second. Any
discussion or questions?
If none, all in favor
[clears throat]
that taken care of. All right. So, that
brings us to the portion of our meeting
for public comments. Uh, I know I
sometimes sound like a broken record,
but I'll go through and make the same
explanations again. Uh, each citizen
that would like to speak has two minutes
to speak. today had an opportunity to
introduce themselves prior to the time
started. So after you made your
introduction as to who you are and where
you are so that it can be recorded, then
we will start the timer. Uh all comments
are to be directed to the board of
commissioners. So we'll keep those aimed
in our direction and be respectful in
the way in which they're presented. Um
and we'll do our best to try to get
through any and all that you like to
speak. So if you raise your hand and
that way once you get called on then
we'll give you an opportunity. Yes, sir.
in the back.
» First of all, I was short. The chairs
were too short. [laughter]
>> You're just super tall.
I'm an average tall guy. [laughter]
But, uh, my name is Bill Scurry. Um, I
own a business in Jasper and I live in
Jasper. Uh, one day business were doing
good and traffic was coming in the door.
People were spending money. Then all of
a sudden it stopped.
And usually when it stops is there's an
accident out there at Mark Whitfield and
in Church Street because people trying
to turn left in a right hand turn home.
So I walked out there and that wasn't
the case. There were a couple of guys
drilling holes in the street to set up
posts to block off my street at any time
they want to. I asked them, I said,
"Well, who approved this?" They said,
"Well, you need to call and give me the
phone number of individual." I won't say
his name and um you need to call him and
I called him. He says you need to go to
DDA. I went to the DDA. DDA said it was
the county's responsibility.
Um
finally I went back to the DDA, did some
homework, found on their um charter
online. It said every business
uh well the city will give every
business
uh a 30-day notice
and um
uh a a set time to when they're open to
close the street and when they're open.
Now you could tell from the DDA board
they didn't had never knew that. Um, so
a couple week
while long, I went to another meeting
and the mayor was in there. I said,
"Mayor," I said, "I hope y'all follow
along with these rules that you had in
your charter." He says, "Oh, we've
changed those, but don't worry, Bill.
We'll give you plenty of time
notice." That's like saying my check
checks in there. But um you know it's
just unfortunate from all the back and
forth in going around and other things
I've run into. I kind of feel like
pickings Cherokee not Cherokee Pickkins
Jasper. I mean there needs to be a
change up of whoever's in charge cuz
it's not doing well. For example, the
army is being shut down on their own.
>> 20 seconds to wrap up after the two
minutes is complete. I'll let you kind
of wrap your thought up if you left to
finish.
>> No, I just was throwing in the army's
being shut down on opening day.
>> But
>> I understand. Thank you. Thank you FOR
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I see a hand in the back. I don't see a
head. [laughter]
I don't think you suffer from the same
thing he suffered.
>> No, I do not.
>> I do not. If
>> you'll introduce yourself, I'll start at
the time after you.
>> My name is Denise Owen and I am a
resident here at Pigis County. Y'all
just heard my name a few minutes ago.
First, I want to thank you guys for the
opportunity to work with the election
board and that's quite an honor. But
that's not why I'm here tonight. So, I
came bearing a different hat this time.
This is the chair of the uh Republican
party here in Dickens County. So once a
year we do a fundraiser. It's normally
the tomato sandwich picnic. This year
we're doing something a little
different. We up our game just a little
bit. So we're doing a barbecue supper
where you can buy plates. You can um go
through the drive-thru if you want. If
you can't stay or you can eat there with
us, you can order plates ahead of time
through our website. We're also going to
have bingo and uh have prizes with that.
But the one thing I'm looking the most
forward to is our pie for purpose. So,
some of y'all may have seen a little bit
about that on the Facebook today. So,
we've issued a challenge out there for
all of our elected officials, anybody
that's um serves in a civic capacity
that would like to get on our
leaderboard to raise money for the kids
uh that are seniors at Piggins High
School. So, the way this pie for purpose
works is if you decide you want to get
out there and raise some money, whoever
raises the most money, we'll get a pie
in the face.
So, we have plenty of room on our
leaderboard for anybody else, fellas.
So, uh, Mr. Josh Tibons has already
taken us up on this offer.
>> Thank you, Josh.
>> So, we appreciate that. glad we help him
break. [laughter]
>> So, here's the beauty of this. Here's
the beauty of this thing. So, there's
lots of people that want on this board.
So, there's QR codes on Facebook where
you can go. Everybody's got an
individual QR code you can donate to
their cause. So, whoever gets it and
whoever raises the most is up for
pie king or pie queen cuz we do have a
chick on the board, too. So, already
[laughter]
got a second.
>> So, who whoever the winner is, it
doesn't mean that you get a pie in the
face because we're going to give you an
out.
>> Well, if you decide to take it, if you
decide to take the pie in the face,
we're going to let whoever you choose do
the pine. So, it could be your wife, it
could be your kids, it could be your
grandkids. Um, or if you really don't
want Cool Whip to get in your hair,
>> we're going to give you an out.
So, however much money was raised to get
you in the hot seat, you can pay your
way out.
[laughter]
The fun part of that is, all right, you match that, but you got to pay a
little more. So, you got to go over what
was collected for you then.
You get to choose the next one.
>> So, you can choose somebody else to be
in the hot seat. So, because we're
reasonable people.
>> All right. Your top got cut off.
[laughter]
Call the timer.
>> All right. Yes,
>> when you made the hair comment
[laughter]
be a victim right off the bat.
>> And that's August the 29th, by the way,
at Hensley Plaza.
>> August 29th,
>> 11th a.m. to 300 p.m. We'll have the
band out there playing. 260 students
from the high school will be out there
playing and we'll have a lot of stuff
going on. So, y'all should come out.
>> Perfect.
>> Any other comments?
» Do I have a motion to adjurnn? motion to
motion.
>> No,
you actually can. Sorry.
>> Totally unrelated, but I do want to
thank Jim, Pat
will serve. Those are both very
difficult boards to serve on with a lot
of attention and appreciate their
willingness to get involved.
>> Absolutely.
>> I'll take the money and then I'll get
the [laughter]
» knew where that was going. So, A motion
and a second to adjurnn. All in favor?
>> I'll say I on that.
>> Meetings. Thank you all very much.