1 00:04:14,799 --> 00:04:21,280 There we go. Okay. Testing. Yeah. >> Okay. 2 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:26,400 » Welcome to the tourism advisory committee meeting. It's August 19th. We 3 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:30,000 are starting at right at 2 p.m. >> I want to welcome everybody. to do a 4 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:34,600 roll call. >> Keith Chamber, 5 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:34,600 » Linda Whis, 6 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:42,639 » Christy P >> and Vesty 7 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:48,160 » and Satie Mercer and two other guests, Dave Mercer and 8 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:52,479 Finn Mercer. Okay. Uh, review of the minutes. Has everybody had an 9 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:57,000 opportunity to review the minutes? And if so, may I have a motion? 10 00:04:57,919 --> 00:05:04,800 Okay. Second, 11 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:10,320 » second by Keith. All in favor? >> All those. Thank you very much. 12 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:13,199 Financial review. >> Before we go to there, I will say about 13 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:17,840 the minutes, you might notice that they're getting more matterof fact and 14 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:21,600 less descriptive 15 00:05:19,039 --> 00:05:25,600 » and that's because we record everything. Okay. And so this point like dictating 16 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:29,600 everything out. I think the city of meetings are kind of moving away from 17 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:33,360 having to do that just it's it's strictly what were the votes what was 18 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:37,840 you know what was discussed if you want details you can watch videos so I think 19 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:44,800 that's the way it should be >> yeah financial review I have um some 20 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:49,199 financial reports from the city but again 21 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:57,039 it's leg we're mostly looking at May stuff here um so um 22 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,960 that's Just because this is what city council has voted on in their packets 23 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:02,880 recently which are transcribed here for you. 24 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:08,639 » Can you just talk about which page you're on? 25 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:11,639 » Reports are I should put page numbers on. 26 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:23,759 » So [clears throat] I can go through these or you could ask 27 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:27,600 me questions about them if you'd like. whatever depends on how you like to do 28 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:34,600 it. These b these bills are all paid already. So, you know, it's kind of up 29 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:34,600 to you and what your is 30 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:44,000 » what's Lookout. >> Lookout is our creative uh agency that 31 00:06:41,919 --> 00:06:46,720 does development of our ads. >> Okay. 32 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:52,000 » So, our print ads mostly, but lots of digital ads as well. So, on this one, we 33 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,840 have creative development February through June. 34 00:06:54,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Most of that work took place in February, March, April around, but 35 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,919 this closed off the fiscal year. >> So, we missed a payment for the weather 36 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,560 camp. >> We did miss a payment for the weather 37 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,304 camp. >> Well, we missed it until we paid in May. 38 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,840 » I mean, it's a big difference. [laughter] I mean, quite a few months. 39 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:20,080 I'm like, I'm surprised we didn't catch it earlier. 40 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:24,240 » Yeah. So, we we caught it in May, but >> Yeah. I know it's a good thing. But 41 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:29,680 » yeah, >> it's weird. Billing is strange because 42 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,280 especially large companies >> like broadcast companies and stuff, 43 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,880 they'll send us a bill >> or they'll send it to city hall or 44 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:41,039 they'll mail it and it's just like floats around sometimes and gets lost 45 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,880 and I think part of this is the reason why 46 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:48,720 um we build our own kind of parallel finance system to city hall so that we 47 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:52,880 can keep track of what we've allocated, what we expect and what we're actually 48 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,479 seeing. Then we can locate it kind of like this. This is from October. 49 00:07:55,039 --> 00:07:59,520 » That's why I said it to such a long time. Almost a year that they realized 50 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,039 they didn't get >> No. No. October to May. So it's about 51 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,680 half a year. >> Only 58 bucks for office coffee. That's 52 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,639 a bargain. >> I know. We would have shot where you 53 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,560 shop. [laughter] >> Columbia River coffee. 54 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:15,280 You can buy them in bulk. >> That's per cup. 55 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:19,440 » Yeah. >> It's about two months worthy coffee. 56 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,440 » That's good. >> Yeah. 57 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,879 » Delicious. You got to do the work and we pour our own coffee, but 58 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:29,240 » [laughter] >> as if you'd have it any other way. 59 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:40,039 » I don't know. I'm not aware. What is C? What seaside condo association? 60 00:08:35,599 --> 00:08:40,039 » Yeah, I knew it. 61 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:46,000 » You're truly on the tack now. >> Yes. 62 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:50,880 » Okay. So um a long time ago when the world mark was built there was an 63 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:55,760 agreement reached where the city would assume the uh responsibility for power 64 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:02,720 for the lower two levels the public parking levels of the world parking 65 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:06,959 garage and the equivalent of two units for some reason 66 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:11,800 » that exists in a contract somewhere that was signed when I was you know 19 67 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:16,720 » that's how you think you like [clears throat] not their little hotel 68 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,959 units or what those down >> that's where they set the value 69 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:24,160 » that's the value of what they gave us basically 70 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:28,480 » so every month we pay up it's it's assigned to us because a lot of the bed 71 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:33,200 tax comes through our department >> that's not so true anymore now that we 72 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,200 have a tourism uh activity fund that Zach and Spencer set up but when Mark 73 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:41,920 was doing the budget it always brought it through us and so that's a historical 74 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,640 just remnant where we still pay that through this budget 75 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,760 We pay that every month or >> every month. 76 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,959 » Just two >> for those for all those parking spots. 77 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,160 » It's for public parking. >> It's for public parking. We don't 78 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:57,839 actually get the units. >> Okay. Just parking. 79 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:04,080 » Okay. Good to know. >> The homeless get the units 80 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:11,176 » and it's like a lease of those parking >> so they can be revoked at some point. 81 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,176 » I hope they do honestly. [clears throat] 82 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:19,440 Yeah, it's it's an interesting thing and and for a long time there was all these 83 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:23,600 things where that number would fluctuate every year and we'd have no recourse or 84 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,360 understanding of why it would go up a thousand bucks or down a thousand bucks. 85 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:31,040 We're just like what is going on here? And it turned out when you go back and 86 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,640 look at the document that was signed that there was all these committees that 87 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,920 were supposed to be set up to discuss these things. And so it's only within 88 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:40,959 the last year that those committees have actually been set up because we've 89 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:43,519 looked on track like what is going on here? 90 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:49,519 » It's not really anything to do with this department. It's a city umbrella thing 91 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,640 that we pay but we kind of prod because we're like what's going on here and 92 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:56,959 » so it might be taken out of these >> I hope it will eventually. Yeah. 93 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,600 » But it is a professional or it's in maintenance contracts now which is 94 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:04,240 actually an improvement because it used to be in our professional contractual 95 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:09,680 and just eat it up immediately. So >> yeah because that's big that's a big 96 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:14,480 » huge >> do you have the committ we're doing the 97 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:20,720 committees now >> Zach Zach is on it it's it's uh Zach is 98 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:24,480 the city representative he's our finance director and then there's the general 99 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:30,240 manager of the world mark there's some other worldmark representative who's in 100 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:34,399 um Las Vegas and then Mark Tolen who's the 101 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,880 board director or something of the condos there or something. That's the 102 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:44,720 group. And it sounds like they are working on putting in u 103 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:50,079 they're working on resurfacing protecting some of the uh sealant that 104 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,600 they have um in the parking garage and they're also working on putting in 105 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:59,440 security cameras and stuff like that. So the funding that is all goes into what 106 00:11:56,560 --> 00:12:02,000 determines this cost. But we're now part of that whereas before it was just kind 107 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:07,760 of happened >> is like building maintenance 108 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:12,880 like pressure washing cuz the outside isn't really bad shape like is that part 109 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:18,160 of that committee or if you know >> I know it is some weather proofing so I 110 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:25,040 would think that might be involved but you might um talk to Mark or Zach 111 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,720 because they sit in on those meetings every two months. 112 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,880 I just pay the bills. >> Yeah. Yeah. 113 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,279 » Do we know how many parking spots we get for that $7,000? 114 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,800 » Oh, >> yeah. It's two floors, but I don't know 115 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:43,083 how many it is to be the truth. >> Be nice to 116 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:47,839 » I'm surprised if you got there [clears throat] early 117 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:51,839 tomorrow. And 118 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,639 » there's also there as well or charging station. 119 00:12:53,120 --> 00:13:00,000 » Yeah. So when people call me and ask for it. 120 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:04,720 » There's two there, right? >> One I think is up on the page. 121 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:07,760 » Yeah. One paid one is the one that we public have. 122 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:12,560 » It's one of them. >> So the paid not everybody can go to the 123 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:17,000 paid section. It's just windows, right? >> Yes. You already have to have 124 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,000 » good. >> Thanks for the explanation. 125 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,000 » Great question. 126 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,079 in Alabama. 127 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:32,480 I don't think so. >> Well, what what's destination lab? We 128 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:39,120 probably you probably already told us >> that is the um for three years we have 129 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:45,200 done a resident sentiment on tourism survey with Oregon State University. 130 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:49,279 » And um the first year um it was paid for because we went in as part of a travel 131 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Oregon grant and we were one of the destinations that was awarded funding 132 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,000 for that. um sitting out for the last two years. We've paid to continue that 133 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,800 because we have a benchmark and we've seen how it moves. 134 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:03,440 » Okay. >> And that that meets city council goals 135 00:14:01,199 --> 00:14:07,199 and stuff like that. It's a really good program for us to have 136 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,639 » and that's not that's a one time once a year. 137 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:14,760 » That's an annual. >> Yeah. Okay. 138 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:14,760 That's how I haven't seen it. 139 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:24,480 » I think if you go on to um seside.com and go to the industry section, we have 140 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:28,959 the um the results posted. It's interesting to see how things are 141 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:34,240 changing and all that. But seaside, if I had to put it into like a short 142 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:41,600 baitment, is relatively well positioned for a mature destination. lots of other 143 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:46,959 towns tourism has a is perceived as having a lot more um drawbacks. 144 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Seaside I think those drawbacks are recognized but also a lot of people 145 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:55,279 recognize the benefit that it brings. So relative to other destinations seaside's 146 00:14:52,959 --> 00:15:01,120 doing pretty [clears throat] well. >> That's good. 147 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:08,000 » Okay. Um expenditures I have two here. One is from last year, so it's through 148 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:13,920 the end of June and um it's been updated since we last talked. I think everything 149 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:18,320 is in here now. And I just want to point out if you look at the totals for 150 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:22,519 materials and services on an almost $890,000 151 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:31,040 total, we spent it to with a half percentage. 152 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:36,160 So, um, it's kind like we don't have full control over all these lion. So, 153 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:40,079 it's a little bit like, uh, surfing or something. You know, you're 154 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:46,079 anticipating things and kind of changing changing uh, course throughout the year, 155 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:51,759 but also keeping an eye on the things we do control very squarely and and trying 156 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:57,680 to spend it within within reason, but not going over budget. So, half a 157 00:15:53,440 --> 00:16:05,839 percentage point on that total be good. the new fiscal year. So on the next 158 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:09,279 page, it moves to the end of July. Um I messed up the spreadsheet there on 159 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,839 personnel services and didn't put in year-to- date expenditures, but it is 160 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:21,399 7.86% for this point in the year. Materials 161 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,399 and services is at 8.47%. 162 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:30,079 There are two items that I noticed in the budget that um are both need to be 163 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:36,240 reconciled before the end of the fiscal year and both result from the city 164 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:43,120 council approving more money for things and our budget not being adapted to um 165 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:49,120 take those into account. So, one is in the contributions and donations line. 166 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:56,240 They have budgeted again,000, which is the same as last year. However, 167 00:16:51,920 --> 00:17:01,040 the city council voted to give uh David's chair $14,000 this year instead 168 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:04,319 of $7,000. So, that means we're overdrawn on that. Unfortunate or we 169 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:10,160 will be overdrawn on that. And unfortunately, that's also where we get 170 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:13,600 our arts grant money. So 171 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:19,039 » that's why we have less money right now. >> Yeah. But that that's just on paper. 172 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:25,039 It's going to be running south end the year. So that money that 44,000 will 173 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:32,559 have to go up. And then the other more impactful one is that chamber 174 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:36,400 I don't what does commamber communities or business license former business 175 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:41,280 license. >> Yeah. 6 176 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:44,160 64,000. The chamber gets what? 39,000 plus fireworks. 177 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,520 » Yeah. >> Plus 25. 178 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,000 » Yeah, it does. I think >> Yeah. 179 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:53,039 » Yeah. >> But that's not what 180 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:58,799 » So you So this year the city council voted to 40,500, right? 181 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:03,360 » But didn't adjust this line. And so we're out about 155 on that one. 182 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,240 » But it shouldn't have come out of that fund. 183 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:11,200 » It It is coming out of that fund. They just are paying this with the tax now. 184 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,360 So they switched they switched how it was funded which doesn't impact us. 185 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,559 However, they didn't adjust the total line. So we areed. They're going to fix 186 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,960 it. >> Which explains why when I called about 187 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:26,799 the bill being paid, then it was a big question as to why I was billing them 188 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,760 for that amount. >> Oh yeah. 189 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,200 » Yeah. We didn't get that bill even though we pay it. Sometimes city hall 190 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:37,600 got it and I saw it inflated and said, "Yeah, we pay that. We'll pay it." Is it 191 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,240 this is this is where >> that was where it was originally. 192 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,240 » Oh, I know that's where it was originally, but I thought that that 193 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:49,760 whole thing was that it was going to be switched out of off of your budget. 194 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:53,440 » I think what they're what they were switching is how it's paid. 195 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,360 » Yes. >> For for business license fees. 196 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:01,280 » This this amount isn't I don't think business license anymore. I think it's 197 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,720 TLP, but >> Right. But what was business license 198 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:08,240 fees? Sorry, I guess I was talking about fireworks. 199 00:19:05,919 --> 00:19:12,080 » Yeah, but yeah. Anyway, >> fireworks used to be in our promo event, 200 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:15,440 promotional events, >> but now it's chamber business line or 201 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:21,039 whatever there. >> So, anyway, on paper, 202 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:24,559 we're short, but it won't be that'll be adjusted. Zach said they'll adjust it 203 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,440 before the end of the year. So, we'll just have to watch those lines and 204 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:31,360 ensure that by the end of the year that gets adjusted, or else we'll definitely 205 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:35,760 be overcrowded. And I showed him I said it with him half 206 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:39,068 a percentage coin last year. I need that money. [laughter] 207 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,360 » Okay. 208 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,200 » Uh I [clears throat] think most of you have heard me mention this at meetings 209 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,760 over the last couple weeks, but our visitors are coming from everywhere. 210 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:06,400 We've had people from five, six, seven, eight different major foreign countries. 211 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:11,360 Um, not including Canada, but we've had Canada. Uh, and then all over the 212 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:15,840 country. A lot of Midwest and South, which is a whole new weird thing. Why so 213 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:21,440 many of them ended up here again, Oklahoma today, Virginia, 214 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:27,760 um, New York yesterday. I mean, they're everywhere. It's It's really 215 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:32,480 interesting. Um, and very fun. Uh the um a lot of people in Oregon and eastern 216 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:36,720 Washington obviously escaping smoke. Uh and then we had a lot of people who were 217 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,159 um had plans, this happened during volleyball. I heard about it afterwards, 218 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,080 but apparently a lot of people had plans to go hike at the end of Mount Hood and 219 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:48,880 when they had that Meadows evacuation or to stay clear, a lot of people chose to 220 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:53,120 come to Seaside and do the trail head. So, I think at one point we were 221 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:57,200 estimating there could have been seven to 10 different groups camping up at the 222 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:01,200 hikers camp, which is really, you know, pretty interesting. It must have been 223 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,919 fun. Uh, but seven cars got permits and were parked out here while people did 224 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:09,280 the trail. So, that was kind of neat. I like that they pivoted and came the 225 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:14,400 seaside. Uh, and then, um, months ahead of schedule, I think we set 226 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:19,520 a record. Um, I'm going to mail out the last of our polyag guides this week. Uh, 227 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:24,400 so we've already started stuffing envelopes and labeling postage. Uh, Nate 228 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:28,240 came in today, our Sunday part-timer, and I went over that with him. It's 229 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:32,000 like, if you're saying Sundays are busy, so hopefully he has a little time to 230 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:36,320 stuff. But yes, surprisingly, Sundays have been um, really busy. And again, 231 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,919 people from all over the place are coming in on a Sunday. So, it's great 232 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,679 even it's four hours, it's great that we're hoping it obviously serves a 233 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:48,480 purpose. Uh, and Nate does a great job of detailing what they're in for. Um, 234 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,840 like we try to keep notes of, you know, complete a treasure quest, you know, 235 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:55,360 that kind of stuff. And he just gets extra thorough. I told him I'm like, 236 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,919 "Don't feel like you have to do it unless you want to." No, no. It's just 237 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,159 kind of fun to talk about. >> He locks the door. 238 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:05,520 » Yeah. >> So, yeah, hopefully he'll get to stuff 239 00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:09,360 some envelopes. Uh, and I've already ordered more labels and more envelopes 240 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:13,280 uh to finish up the year because it looks like we're just going to be on 241 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:17,200 average about 500 a week till the end of the year. 242 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:21,200 Usually we would drop to about 250. Now by October we're waiting every other 243 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:26,480 week because we're not hitting our 200 max that we need to do the shipment. Um 244 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:30,400 so this is different new territory kind of fun and it's so great to get more 245 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:37,600 poly bag. >> Yeah. So at this point 246 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:43,520 fully onethird of the guides that have gone out are going direct to mail order 247 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,480 homes which is a much higher ratio than we've had in the past at least while 248 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:52,240 I've been here. >> So we've had 20,000 I think that we're 249 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:57,919 in now. And I did mention at chamber this morning, so no heard it at all 250 00:22:54,799 --> 00:23:03,520 actually. Um the I learned from Josh the meta leads are not just like some of the 251 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:08,320 leads we used to get from I don't know we used to get leads from places where 252 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:14,480 if people just tacked on oh interested in the coast well then we you know we 253 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:19,679 get the order for it. I learned on Meta they actually fill out an order form for 254 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:24,000 the seaside visitor guide. So that made a big difference in my opinion of the 255 00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:29,600 meta leads. I thought they were just throwaways, but they're actually people 256 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,520 filling out a form to get our guide. So I just thought that was 257 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,799 » Yeah. >> Pretty amazing that many people a month. 258 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:39,760 » Over 300. >> Yeah. Close to 400 sometimes a month. So 259 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:44,080 then that's all Facebook and Instagram, right? Just Facebook. 260 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:49,360 » I think it's Facebook and Instagram. And I think our totals to date this year are 261 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:54,320 um Uh, travel Oregon I think is the most 262 00:23:52,880 --> 00:24:02,320 because they're just a much larger machine that stuff, 263 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:08,159 » right? And uh, the next highest would be Meta. Next highest is their own website 264 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:13,279 and those combined together have been 20,000 this year so far. 265 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:17,279 And the cost per acquisition on entitle is really reasonable. We're running at 266 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:23,600 like one $1.78 or something for those per per 267 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:29,840 guy. If you consider that if one of those if one out of 10 people from that 268 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:35,600 that get those magazines come to Seaside and pay for 100 people get a guide, you 269 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:42,240 know, um it's really um running at really cost effective uh 270 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:45,440 rate. And Meta has all these little the I don't know how accurate they are, but 271 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:50,000 they they rate all these different things as far as like how successful is 272 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,440 your ad, how affordable is your ad, is your creative good, and aren't we were 273 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,679 running above average in all the categories. For this particular one, 274 00:24:55,279 --> 00:25:01,440 it's just really seems to be working well for what it is. 275 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,880 » And then the only other thing, yesterday, beach towel Tuesday, same as 276 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:09,039 usual, there were five different families out front waiting. We opened 277 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,240 the door. Uh, so everybody got their towels and then a little bit later this 278 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:18,080 other family shows up and the kids were really excited. So Greg slipped the 279 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:21,840 sixth one by but he did go extra. Uh, and that was great to see. I mean people 280 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,440 are still at it. Uh, Don called me right before coming here and asked how many we 281 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:29,039 have left because she sold out >> and wanted to know if you should be 282 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:33,840 ordering more. I said hell yeah because people want them. So and the way she's 283 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:39,000 selling them that is great to hear. So >> more towels will be coming soon to craft 284 00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:39,000 it in season. 285 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:47,760 » Can you have any sense of like where they're hearing about it? Like are they 286 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:52,159 seeing >> posts or 287 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:56,480 » It varies. It seems like um I mean Greg interacts directly. I know that one time 288 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:01,039 there was a couple in and they said, "Oh, we've already got that. It's our 289 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:05,039 one sheet." So they were in town. They knew that they were going to come back 290 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:08,159 and do it, but it was like a Friday or a Monday or something and you know, so 291 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,799 it's like, do you want the info? I know we've got that 292 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,440 » social media. >> I have a hunch. It's our um event 293 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,080 calendar. >> Oh yes. And then it's in the newsletter 294 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:24,240 and the Thursday turnaround as well. So maybe but it's not for locals. So word 295 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,559 must be getting passed on from staff at places. Are they all coming from Ruths 296 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:32,323 or >> No, come here. 297 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:35,120 » A lot of them go to craft it for Ruth. [laughter] 298 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:40,240 » Yeah, that was fun. Yesterday, two two of the different families as they were 299 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:44,159 walking out. Um the grandma of one family, she put the towel on like a 300 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:49,360 shaw, did a little scarfy wrap, and then the dad of the other family made a cake. 301 00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:53,600 Not the kid, the dad. And then they got their chair pictures. 302 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,640 So that was pretty cute. Do you do chair pictures with all of 303 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,400 them? No. >> Do you take pictures of them holding 304 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,440 their cup? >> No, but I think everybody does. They get 305 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,080 their towel and they go out there and they take pictures in your chair. 306 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,440 They've been waiting a while too and they've already taken chairs pictures. 307 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:11,400 So, >> but yeah, a lot of fun. 308 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,559 Take a look at the monthly stats. 309 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:26,080 feels like it's been busy in the visitor center but relative to past years it's 310 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:31,520 still still slow. So July we were down about a 100 visitors from the previous 311 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:40,799 July at 1100 13% running about 7% below 2025 today 312 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,360 volume was down this month our direct mail leads were up 23% total 313 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:50,799 distribution is about about even with last year but like I said our 314 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:55,679 distribution has been much better mix as far as quality active web users were 315 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,640 about equal with last year sitting around 49,000 people on the website. 316 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:05,200 July email signups were up 30%. 317 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,320 July our visitor guide requests on our 318 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:16,880 website were down 47% but that's because they've shifted to meta and our views 319 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:22,320 for active user are down about 5%. Loging stats for Katsup County in 320 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:27,520 October were positive 5.6%. 6% revenue growth at least for the 321 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:37,840 STR report there and I did get bed tax for the last quarter of 2526 322 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:41,760 1 8 million for tell 742,000 for 323 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:49,200 BRD total for the quarter 2.6 6 million. 324 00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:58,080 That brings us up to 9 almost 9.3 million combined for the whole year. 325 00:28:52,799 --> 00:29:01,080 That is a 3.9% growth of the last year. what 326 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,440 equation 327 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:17,399 and I I don't know if that's final the truth though initial initial note so we 328 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,399 may get a few more 329 00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:26,640 » it is hard to say if that increase is rate increases 330 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:30,399 versus occupancy increases right like we don't have any way of actually tracking 331 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:36,159 occupancy increases? >> The only occupancy data I get is on a 332 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:42,159 county level on a month-to-month basis and I just don't know how represented 333 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:46,080 suicide is in that. Do you know you have your report a little bit different? 334 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:55,559 » Yeah. Um and it's but it's like I said it's over so it's not like it really 335 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:55,559 shows size. Yeah. how many more et. 336 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:08,559 » So the two lodging uh representatives in the room, how is your rates reporting 337 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:12,799 compared to last year? >> Uh we usually uh have about a 5% 338 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,919 increase on rates annually >> and that was the case. 339 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:19,919 » We ch we choose that. I see. Yeah. I mean it's 340 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:25,679 um in the winter time we're having to dip lower uh sign like lower than we 341 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:32,640 have before at least this last winter uh we had to reduce rates significantly to 342 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:37,440 get anybody in but um but as far as our average for our summer we increase about 343 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:42,640 5% announcement >> and so we our breakdown's a little 344 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:47,679 different however I feel like um as a whole we try to stay pretty um set most 345 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,559 of the way through. Um we haven't shown that big of an increase though because 346 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:57,440 again we value our customers are repeat ones for the most part and we're 347 00:30:53,919 --> 00:31:02,240 smaller. You know at 22 units I can pretty much control that matrix a lot 348 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:07,520 better than somebody who is 100 75. >> Um so yeah it's a little different but 349 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:12,080 for us this summer it's just been where you need summer just because it's not 350 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:16,559 been sunny and hot every day. So you're playing that game of, you know, we used 351 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:21,200 do they stay or don't they stay? But this last month has been very different 352 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:24,480 because it was cooler >> because people were packing it in like 353 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,760 we discussed Wednesday where it would make that drop. I'm starting to see 354 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,279 where Wednesday is starting to even out. It used to be that you would you always 355 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,600 have Wednesday where nobody middle of the week nobody really stayed but I'm 356 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:40,399 starting to see an increase now. >> So but school's you know in for a lot of 357 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:44,640 places and school's got to be in. schools got in already. 358 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:48,320 » Yeah, for us June was really soft and beginning of July, first week of July 359 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,760 was really soft and then it started ramping up and now we're pretty much at 360 00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:54,159 capacity. But >> yeah, 361 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,320 » but yeah, but June was really soft. >> Yeah. 362 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,399 » But again, I feel like that's because people are starting to realize school is 363 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:05,200 going back or in like so a lot of kids in the Portland area already back in. So 364 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:12,080 they're hoping to squeeze that last weekend in or that last before. 365 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Well, so the for the county in June, at least the county numbers and STR 366 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:22,159 reports, it looks like occupancy was up 1.6 over the previous year and uh repar 367 00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:26,720 was up almost 8%. >> Yeah. for the county. Again, it's just 368 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,000 there are definitely some particularities, but each 369 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,360 » and then there's things that have happened in lodging too, like certain 370 00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:39,120 hotel, especially when you look at each county because like the Shiloh in 371 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:42,720 Warrington went down and you know there've been some other things have 372 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:47,600 changed and some of the hotel in Atoria have gone to not being temporary lodging 373 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,480 like that, >> but we don't even know which properties 374 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:53,039 are participating, >> right? And that's what I'm saying. So 375 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:58,320 some of these guys have actually fallen off the star report because they no 376 00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:01,600 longer are representative of that. So then you look at that and with rates and 377 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:05,120 stuff you could look like you're seeing an increase. 378 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:10,320 » Like is Norblad not are they not reporting anymore? 379 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:14,240 » What happened? >> It's under contract right now. 380 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:18,279 » Yeah. Um >> I mean just they're south. 381 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:26,399 » It's currently a hostel, right? >> No, it's it's um 382 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:29,760 » we know it's hard to >> uh No, it's just not every room has a 383 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,960 bathroom. >> That's tough. 384 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:38,000 » It's it's Yeah, it's hard to hard to rent rooms without bathroom private 385 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:42,360 bathrooms. Yeah. >> So, it was up for sale. 386 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,360 » Yeah. 387 00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:59,600 Rose festival the 5th May 26th move to the weekend this year for the third time 388 00:33:55,519 --> 00:34:03,760 that's held a little earlier on May 30th typically held in June yes change held 389 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,800 boost attendance with an estimated 30,000 people participating in and off 390 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:12,159 the submission once again the decoration station was decked out seaside branding 391 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:16,560 and staff members walked the route prior to the parade hyping up seaside hand and 392 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:19,520 out travel guide from committees. Seaside also received sponsorship 393 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:23,599 recognition in print and future experience magazine as part of this 394 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:27,839 package on the Portland website and in an e newsletter to participants. The 395 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:33,440 rose festival host about seesaw on Instagram and Facebook on May 27th and 396 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,679 again on June 3rd. Probably the biggest bonus though again is going to be uh 397 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:42,240 besides the participation in the parade itself was a 60-second CSA commercial 398 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:47,440 that aired during KT's Hellcast of the Grand Floral Starlight Parade and on the 399 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:52,560 live YouTube stream which I've got a screenshot of down there. Neielson 400 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:56,639 overnight data showed the broadcast reached 80,000 viewers in the Portland 401 00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:03,040 DMA which seems kind of small small to me but that seems small for viewership 402 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,400 broadcast. Well, I think you know because people are streaming and stuff 403 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,240 more now it's not so much of I just don't think they send me for viewing 404 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,359 » because they saw huge increases in inerson 405 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:16,880 right but I don't feel like people are actually staying home and watching it as 406 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,880 much especially when they can buy them. >> Yeah 407 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:21,520 » because this is the first year that where 408 00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:22,880 » you know it's a little different. >> It sounds like they're going to keep 409 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,440 that. >> They are. They said that funding wise 410 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,440 it's been a better choice about us. Yeah, 411 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,440 » that looks like it. and they said it averaged more than 40,000 viewers over 412 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,320 the duration. Also want to recognize two summer 413 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,920 advertisements we currently have out in the wild. I might have even mentioned 414 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:43,839 this in a prior attack meeting, but um we got these free last minute or value 415 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,400 added placements from our partners and collaborators. As a general rule, we do 416 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:54,160 not allocate advertising budget to seaside summer months for obvious 417 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:58,160 reasons. First up, uh, Oregon's Oregon Idaho's tripaa via magazine on a full 418 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:02,640 page sand castle season had in the July August issue. This is out right now. And 419 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:06,320 they even honored our premium first page placement. So, if you pick up the 420 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:11,359 magazine, you're definitely going to see this. And so, that was really nice of 421 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:14,880 them to uh give us this. Um, the Oregon Coast Visitors 422 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:20,079 Association also included a text advocacy signin July August email blast 423 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:24,880 to subscribers. The email was appropriately themed 10 places for 424 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:30,240 family fun. And although seaside was not among the named in the article somehow 425 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:36,640 like I don't know how you dance around that took some fancy footwork but um 426 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,440 showing up as one of the emails for text ads and I have a picture of it down 427 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,560 there on the bottom of the page. There's a nice bit of added exposure. This is a 428 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:48,720 text ad by the way. It says text ad but it's a photograph a linked photograph 429 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:53,119 that's just a small bit of text. This is very common in email newsletters. 430 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,720 And then lastly, although it's not an ad, our friends of we included an 431 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:01,760 awesome feature on seaside in our annual 2026 summer guide. The article begins on 432 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:06,880 page 18 and runs for pages making a complete case for why Seaside is an 433 00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:10,240 unbeatable family destination. Also includes a variety of photographs, 434 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:15,440 including a beautiful sunset shot we got from Brager during our most recent 435 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,640 advertising shoot. And um Christy, I think they have a picture from you in 436 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,079 there, too. And I think it says Crispy Pool. 437 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,960 » Yeah. Oh, really? >> Yeah. Courtesy of I think so. Or maybe 438 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,640 it says >> the mall. 439 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,079 » And then they reached out and they wanted a photo and I and I went out and 440 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,280 just grabbed one with my phone. I'm like, this is the best cuz I only had 441 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,680 like 48. >> There you go. 442 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:39,280 » A really good picture. >> Well, it ran. It looked good enough. 443 00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:43,160 » I was just sitting here thinking I need to get a professional picture. 444 00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:50,880 » You run a 3 AI. It's fine. Oh my gosh, that would be 445 00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,960 » There's a lot of um >> There's a lot of seal pictures there, 446 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,000 too. >> A lot of seal. 447 00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:59,200 » There's at least two. >> So, 448 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:03,320 » ours are just ones out on the beach. >> Yeah, you walk up like 449 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,320 Yeah, it's it's a really it's a really it's a good article. It's kind of funny. 450 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:14,160 I mean, it's a typical W week like tongue and cheek, but you know, they 451 00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:17,760 rate all these places based on like how much fun your kids are going to have, 452 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,920 how much fun you're going to have as an adult, you know, and so the things kind 453 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:25,520 of change over the different destination, 454 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,560 but overall, there's always something for everybody, which is kind of a really 455 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:35,680 nice takeaway. They use the word kitschy at one point, but as far as things go 456 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:41,119 for it week and for monthly and things like that, it's really comes off very 457 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:46,800 positive and not too backhanded compliments which that kind 458 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:50,571 of media is really good at doing. I know. I used to work for [laughter] 459 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:58,920 » Okay. And in terms of grant, I got two of them. 460 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:16,760 Museum is applying for money to put banners 461 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,760 on 462 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,320 it. 463 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:39,599 » Me too. >> So this is under two hearts of vitality. 464 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:44,280 There is 9,683 remaining. This asks for 3,452. 465 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:16,000 request. Was that the SDVA one? >> No, that was a that was a request that 466 00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:21,200 came from a woman from California who proposed putting a mural somewhere, but 467 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:23,520 she didn't complete her application. Seemed really interested on when she 468 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,359 found >> this wasn't the one in the Gilbert 469 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,720 building. >> That was 470 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:30,960 » that was different. >> That was last year. 471 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:38,800 » The water. >> Oh, yeah. They Yeah. No, they never 472 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:49,119 » So I did want to ask maybe I'm so last year year whatever last grant 473 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:54,079 program I'm blind STDA was awarded the 11,500 474 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:58,400 for the or what 11,000 for the alleyway. >> Yeah. 475 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,800 » And it they were they kept that. >> They kept it. 476 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,280 » Okay. for some reason. >> For some reason, I thought that because 477 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:10,480 the project didn't >> they received the money 478 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:14,720 » and um >> I think what you're thinking about is 479 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:18,720 the mechanical watershed council was trying to get a mural as well, but it 480 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,560 turned out that they weren't going to be able to get it within the time frame 481 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,599 they needed. So, they were invited to buy this year, 482 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:28,960 » but then their director left or something. So, I don't know where 483 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,920 they're at with that, but um >> because what what is the timeline again 484 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:35,680 for the use of it? >> The idea is that it's spent by the end 485 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:39,520 of the fiscal year >> right 486 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:45,359 » now once the money's dispensed. So, we don't have a lot of 487 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:51,040 um we don't have a lot of levers we can pull except for we can get give out more 488 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:58,079 money. So the problem problem currently for STBA is that until the DOS close 489 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:01,920 that grant by submitting a final report on how they've spent that money and 490 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,160 everything or they are not allowed to apply for the next grant which is going 491 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:09,200 to impact Halloween happening if it doesn't happen soon but they are the 492 00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:12,400 rest. >> For some reason I thought we had talked 493 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,400 about like getting that money back because 494 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,359 there wasn't really a timeline when it was completed. I mean, I'm glad they're 495 00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:24,000 kept and it looks like they're moving forward, right? But I thought we at one 496 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,079 point we had discussed that that money would have to be allocated out of this 497 00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:32,000 year's >> I think I asked Zach if that was the 498 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:34,880 case and I the answer was if if they hadn't got the money then we wouldn't 499 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,200 give it to them. But if they already had the money, 500 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:45,280 » it's just you can't apply for another granted. 501 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:50,079 » Okay. So, we did um we did spend the majority of that 25,000 last year then, 502 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:54,000 right? >> I think it was 503 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,720 was it >> around or was 504 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:02,480 » I have a memory that there was like maybe 9,000 left over or something. 505 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:07,839 » Yeah, let's see. So, the almost seven and but we did spend the majority of it. 506 00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:12,480 I mean, I think we had like seven maybe. Well, so I mean, so SVD would be 11 and 507 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,960 then Chamber would be almost seven. Not entirely 6, eight or something like 508 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,520 that. >> So it was 509 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,599 » so so then there wasn't anybody else though. 510 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:24,560 » No, it was just those two. >> Yeah. Was 511 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,880 » pending. I think the TAC voted to award them. 512 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,319 » We did. And then >> assuming they could come up with a 513 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,800 location or something or get an agreement from Gilbert building. That's 514 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:35,440 what it was. >> Gotcha. 515 00:43:33,359 --> 00:43:39,520 » But they couldn't do that and so they didn't get the funds. 516 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:45,040 » Yeah. Uh, I was I was concerned that if we still had if if we had not awarded 517 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:49,040 them already and now that they're closing in on that project start that we 518 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,960 would need to make sure that there was enough funding in this year. Sorry, that 519 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,000 was a long way around getting to an actual point. 520 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,680 » Yeah. But no, >> that that was the kind of the point is 521 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,440 to make sure that like before we move forward on anything else that there 522 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,760 wasn't enough funds for that project. So right there. 523 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:39,839 Did they say or did I just miss how many banners that it actually is accounting 524 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,119 for? >> Four. Four banners. 525 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:49,359 » Is that it? >> I think it's the four polls. I think 526 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:53,240 » I think four. Eight banners. >> Have you seen the old? 527 00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:00,000 Yeah, I priced those at one point to to do 528 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:05,880 » uh No, to do temporary ones for events on the prom. 529 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,880 Anyway, 530 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:12,359 » is this meant to stay? >> Yes. 531 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:23,040 It looks like the most the money is mostly in the hardware, you know, and 532 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:27,359 then after that when these are weatherproof, if they take a beating, 533 00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:34,280 they are going to be replacing them with balance money after they committed 534 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,280 keeping them. 535 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,880 I remember 536 00:45:53,839 --> 00:46:02,880 » for hanging those like the ones coming >> because we had some down in 537 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:07,599 Vietn park had a couple. 538 00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:14,520 » Yeah, that's how some of the hardware bands back in the day. Oh, Ambassadors. 539 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,520 That's what that was. 540 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:21,359 » Yeah, I haven't changed. Yeah, the the hardware not useful. 541 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:27,680 » Yeah, >> the ones that are up, but I might have 542 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:33,200 some upstairs aquarium. >> If they're anywhere, that's where 543 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,040 » if they're missing Oh, I know where they are. The aquarium. It might be there. 544 00:46:35,572 --> 00:46:41,319 [laughter] or the basement of the Gilbert building. 545 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,280 » Uh recommendations 546 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:58,720 motions. >> So it's just just on Pearl Harbor 547 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,760 Bridge. Yeah. >> Or banners. The brackets 548 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,680 banners. Banners are pretty inexpensive, guys. 549 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:13,520 » Yeah. Or 70. [clears throat] >> Yeah. 550 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:18,000 Then of the brackets for those. >> Yeah. 551 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:21,520 » But it's just one banner per like it's not 552 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,680 » two double double banners, right? And they were doublesided. 553 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,520 » Two off the side. >> No, I know they're doublesided. Yeah, 554 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,920 there were two off each one originally. >> That's what I thought. 555 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520 Great. 556 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:45,280 And I paid more. >> Yeah, we all pay for 557 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,280 pretty good time. 558 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:58,280 » I like this idea. I forward a resolution to awarding. 559 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,920 » Okay. Motion to award 4,000 sorry $3,452 560 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,440 is all available. Uh looking for a second 561 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:21,000 » all in favor. >> All opposed. Okay. 562 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,000 All right. One more. 563 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,200 Cool. 564 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:42,480 He goes down there 565 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:46,800 every year on five 566 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:53,400 something there. >> This one is a repeat. So indigenous 567 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,400 gathering 568 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,440 is the 569 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,680 Looks like April 30th. 570 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:16,800 » We didn't fund it. The last meeting or did we 571 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:21,280 » I believe you did fun. I think I found >> Yeah, they put 2026, but they must have 572 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,240 meant 25. >> Yeah. 573 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:29,200 » Wasn't it in the spring? >> So, they go and they have this. Did you 574 00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:32,480 read it before? They go and they harvest like tree bark and all different kinds 575 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:39,599 of stuff and then they make weaving baskets and improve it. 576 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:42,800 » But it if you look at it's it looks like it's a private event, 577 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:47,040 » right? >> And it's I think they you have to be a 578 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:51,200 travel number invited 579 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:56,000 and they put about it was five hotel rooms. 580 00:49:52,559 --> 00:50:01,200 » So I don't really see how this Thursday night. Yeah. What is that 581 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:04,720 » for five? Yeah. And then what they want 3,000 582 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:09,760 and most of that is going just to salaries 583 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:14,319 » of the NC describing your project there's an 584 00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:18,400 interesting paragraph that says due to the nature of this three-day 585 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:23,040 gathering inevit inevitably event participants stay overnight seaside as 586 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:26,960 well as shopping locally. We anticipate, this is important, bringing a similar 587 00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:30,880 mix of travelers to the event and anticipate the same number of 588 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:34,520 participants in 2027 from previous years, all of which 589 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:42,800 it doesn't seem like uh material change from last year in a sense, 590 00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:47,119 » which I recall you folks saying that this is something that they wanted 591 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:51,040 wanted to support, but then >> but we wanted it to grow 592 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,200 » and that doesn't sound like that happening. That would be even better if 593 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:59,200 they would have at least one particular event or something to go 594 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:05,079 to. >> Yeah, 595 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,079 » I noticed that too. But 596 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,880 They have quite resources. 597 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:58,160 » Hard to pick out though what the resources are. What resources are 598 00:51:55,839 --> 00:52:00,400 » Yeah. which are dedicated specifically placed by 599 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:03,400 » Well, I was looking at their uh their cash, 600 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:12,956 their brokerage account funds and then their cash. 601 00:52:10,936 --> 00:52:12,956 [clears throat] 602 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,319 The brokerage account almost 6 million 603 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:34,200 And then discretion and say they've got 500,000 604 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:07,680 I don't know that it equates the number of uh 605 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:11,480 of visitors to seaside that we would hope for a new event. 606 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:23,359 Um, it says in 2026 we nearly doubled attendance from prior year. I didn't see 607 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:32,359 what the attendance from prior year was. Maybe I missed that. 608 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:32,359 » Net income was 1.8 million too. And 609 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,480 um 610 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,800 yeah, I just think that there are other others 611 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:50,440 that might benefit more 612 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,440 um not have a backup like that 613 00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:58,160 » and they can it's not open to the public. 614 00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:01,680 I feel like they're not using interior. They come from the public. 615 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,720 » All the other Yeah. All the other are welcome. Everybody is welcome. They're 616 00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:11,280 on the beach. They're, you know, they're in a very welcoming salt cruise. You 617 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,280 kind of all of it. >> Sorry. 618 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:25,280 » I would recommend not funding uh this request or not. I would second that. 619 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,960 All in favor? >> I 620 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,960 opposed. 621 00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:37,680 » I do not have any new business this month. However, I did want to let you 622 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:44,960 know that um I will be uh creating a draft charter for the TAC based on the 623 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:48,960 spreadsheet you submitted and then I will present it to you. I'll try to get 624 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,640 it done for the next meeting and you can vote on if that's what you want to send 625 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:59,040 to city council or we can make changes or whatever. Basically, I've been 626 00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:05,440 assigned to take the uh sheet filled out and apply it to a 627 00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:10,720 draft template of charter that council has moved forward with and approved. And 628 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:15,280 so I'm going to do that for tax and I guess I have to do that for my own 629 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:19,520 vision which is supposedly um and then we'll discuss it I guess 630 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:26,720 next month. However, I don't have the copy you sent to city hall filled out. 631 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:30,319 If you think about it, could you email it to me? 632 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:35,680 » I would except that was on my computer that died a very severe death. 633 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,119 » I can I can have city hall for it because I have it as well, but they 634 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:44,160 don't remember it. >> I can look I might have a paper copy of 635 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:48,160 it. I don't remember [laughter] printed it 636 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,280 out and it might be in my folder in my office. 637 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:56,319 » Well, if it's easy, then let me know. If not, they have it for sure. What they do 638 00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:01,760 have in the folder that I was given is the the an the like answers, the 639 00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:05,839 ultimate answers along the left hand side, but none of the reasoning that 640 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:11,280 went along the right, which I feel like was all the the work that was in it. So, 641 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:16,480 I don't have that filled out copy. I'll get that. But we'll we'll we'll try to 642 00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:20,520 discuss that next month. >> And then um 643 00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:27,599 » I guess I would like to chat at some point before we start working on 644 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:34,799 budgeting stuff for the year. I would like to chat about us um potentially 645 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:39,520 being the body that requests uh a surf rake. Um, 646 00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:43,200 » a surf lake at the beach. Beach. >> Oh, 647 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:44,960 » beach sand. Bony beach. >> Sam. 648 00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:47,200 » Okay. [laughter] >> Do you mean through the budget process 649 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:51,440 next year? >> Through the budget process. Yeah, 650 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:55,760 » that could be. >> I just I just want to start early. Yeah, 651 00:56:54,319 --> 00:57:03,440 vehicle I think for that >> and then uh also potentially um being 652 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:07,520 the entity that requests a uh and maybe this will just happen through 653 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:13,839 public works too, but uh an entity that requests PT money for the addition of 654 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:18,200 power at Avenue A ramp for the events as well. 655 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:25,040 So, both of those things I already talked to Spencer and public works, but 656 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,960 now, of course, since Paul's gone, >> there's no power there. 657 00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:33,680 » There's not. The only power is at the base of the round turnound, 658 00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:39,119 uh, there's water there, >> but no power. So, the reason that I 659 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:45,920 really ask is that our event alone, um, spent about $9,000 in generators and 660 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:52,240 feeding the generators for the event. So, um, yeah, just with ours and 661 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:58,480 coast and other events that could use power on the beach, um, it seems like 662 00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:02,040 that could be a savings overall, make things a lot easier. 663 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,960 Public comment. >> What did you just say? 664 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:18,400 » Nothing. [laughter] Anything for you? Okay. Well, then we 665 00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:24,200 will uh call this meeting adjourned at 2:54. 666 00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:24,200 Right. Is that a record? 667 00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:27,559 Good. 668 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,640 See you guys. Bye.