1 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,960 We'll call this regular meeting of the 2 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Walke City Council to order. Will 3 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,679 everyone please rise for the pledge of 4 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:33,190 >> allegiance 5 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,680 to the flag of the United States of 6 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,320 America and to the republic for which it 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,360 stands. One nation under God, 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,680 indivisible, with liberty and justice 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,150 for all. 10 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:47,360 [clears throat] 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,520 >> Great. Thank you. We please roll call. 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,239 Mayor Clark 13 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:50,719 >> here. 14 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:52,719 >> Council member Anderson 15 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:53,280 >> here. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,480 >> Council member Cone 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:54,960 >> here. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,239 >> Council member Grove 19 00:00:56,239 --> 00:00:56,719 >> here. 20 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:57,760 >> Council member Lion 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,280 >> here. Council member Pierce 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,879 >> here. 23 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:03,680 Right. Agenda item D is open forum. Open 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,040 forum is the time for anyone here 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,720 tonight to address the council on any 26 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,320 subject over which the council has the 27 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:10,320 authority to act or any item on the 28 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,640 agenda other than a public hearing. If 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,240 anyone here tonight wishes to address 30 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,240 the council uh and voice your comments 31 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,520 or questions, you can approach the 32 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,000 podium or raise your hand. I want to uh 33 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 highlight a couple of things. So, give 34 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,680 me just a minute. Uh if you're 35 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,200 participating via Zoom, you can click on 36 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,280 the raise hand icon located in the 37 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,920 reactions controls. So, go ahead and 38 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,479 approach. But, uh it's the first hand 39 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:34,400 that I saw. Yep. Um if you want to form 40 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,320 a queue, you can. Want to highlight just 41 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,320 a couple of things uh since we have some 42 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:41,119 new faces here tonight. So, the only 43 00:01:41,119 --> 00:01:42,479 public hearing we have tonight is on 44 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:44,880 disposal of property uh related to an 45 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,040 IOD DOT thing. If you're here to speak 46 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,119 on that tonight, you wait until that. If 47 00:01:49,119 --> 00:01:50,560 you're here to speak on anything else, 48 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,040 now is your chance. We do limit comments 49 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,880 to 3 minutes in order to get everybody 50 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,119 through and be out before midnight. Uh 51 00:01:57,119 --> 00:01:59,200 so, if you could limit to three minutes, 52 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,079 we would appreciate that. Um and then 53 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:04,479 please make sure to address us. Thank 54 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:05,439 you. 55 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:06,880 >> I promise to keep it under three 56 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,520 minutes. Perfect. 57 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:08,720 >> Oh, and you do need to state your name 58 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,160 and address for the record. 59 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,440 >> Yes. My name is Steve Ridge, RGE, and 60 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,000 I'm a new resident at the Center Stage 61 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Apartments. My permanent residence, 62 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,840 however, is in Marian, Iowa. And uh I'm 63 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,319 a licensed private investigator and I 64 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,640 think some of you already may know me. I 65 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,959 have been the lead investigator, 66 00:02:28,959 --> 00:02:30,640 private investigator on the Jodie 67 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,040 Hussein missing person's case for nearly 68 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,760 eight years and am responsible for most 69 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,239 of the progress that's been made. 70 00:02:40,239 --> 00:02:42,959 However, I'm here because I had a rude 71 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:46,560 awakening when I arrived at u uh my new 72 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,120 residence and that was my car got towed 73 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,080 all of a sudden. Uh and I'd never heard 74 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,360 of Croto. Uh, and I guess they gave me a 75 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,640 sticker and I didn't put it on. Uh, 76 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,360 however, that was not my issue. My issue 77 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,800 is the way the car was, uh, extracted 78 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,920 from the parking spot. Uh, pulled in an 79 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,200 angle and I did about $7,000 damage. 80 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,159 Brand new car, 2,000 miles. So, I'm 81 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:16,319 still evaluating the damage, but that's 82 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:20,400 really minor. I have met now dozens of 83 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,720 people that have been affected by this. 84 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,560 And so I will be filing a class action 85 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,239 lawsuit against Croto very soon. Uh but 86 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:32,400 I also wanted to recommend that the city 87 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,680 council consider looking at some actions 88 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,360 that municipalities can take uh to curb 89 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,640 this kind of predatory behavior. Uh and 90 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Marian Iowa happens to be one of the few 91 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,000 communities in the nation that has taken 92 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,400 action. I worked with the people over 93 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 there on this uh three about three years 94 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,040 ago. So, I created a document that you 95 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,519 all can have refer to. I think you have 96 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:02,720 bigger fish to fry tonight. Uh so, I'm 97 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,000 going to get out of the way and sit 98 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,840 down, but I hope you'll take a look and 99 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,480 I will definitely be in touch. Uh it's a 100 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,120 beautiful city. Uh my wife has been 101 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,840 admitted over at Story Point Kettlestone 102 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,680 in the memory care unit. Uh, and I'm 103 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,440 here indefinitely even though I still 104 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,000 have my condominium in in Marian. So, 105 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,720 I'm here to support her. So, I want to 106 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,360 thank you. It's a great city, great city 107 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,080 council. I met a wonderful police chief 108 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,800 back here and uh I just want to thank 109 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,160 you for all for your time and 110 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,080 consideration. Thank you very much. 111 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,479 >> Thank you. 112 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:38,720 Steve. 113 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 >> Uh, go ahead. Next person can approach. 114 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,040 I do want to add to the something that I 115 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,800 didn't mention. If it is on the agenda 116 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,919 tonight, we can speak about the topic. 117 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:49,759 If it is not, we are not permitted by 118 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:51,520 Iowa code since this is an open meeting 119 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 and agenda had to be published ahead of 120 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,160 time. So, if it is on the agenda, we can 121 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,560 speak back. That one is not. So, um if 122 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,759 you would like to speak to any of us 123 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:00,880 after the council meeting, you're 124 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,040 welcome to stay. Go ahead. 125 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,560 >> Madame Mayor, members of the council, my 126 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,520 name is Phil Hoy, 5820 West Parkway, 127 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,280 West De Moines. I'm the vice president 128 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,039 of sort development real estate with HY. 129 00:05:11,039 --> 00:05:12,960 Uh this item that I'm want to speak on 130 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,120 is on the agenda regarding the new 131 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,280 development uh being proposed at Alys's 132 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,919 Road and and Hickman. Uh in particular, 133 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:22,639 the the traffic uh study is really what 134 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,039 I want to speak to and we did submit a 135 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:28,240 letter to you earlier today. Uh we 136 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,080 received a copy of the revised traffic 137 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,960 study. Um we actually we received a copy 138 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:38,160 of the original traffic study um last week and provided a letter to the 139 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,320 planning commission with some concerns 140 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,919 and presented those concerns to planning 141 00:05:41,919 --> 00:05:44,639 commission. Uh they they spoke about 142 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,880 those concerns at the meeting um and the 143 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,400 condition that planning commission gave 144 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,720 was uh recommended approval with an 145 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,800 updated traffic study. So we received 146 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,240 that uh late Friday it would have been 147 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,720 and so we u reviewed that as best we 148 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,479 could and then submitted what we have 149 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:03,440 for questions concerns remaining um will 150 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,039 admit they did a tremendous job in a 151 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:06,479 short amount of time from planning 152 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:08,639 commission to last Friday to address 153 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:10,880 some of those concerns that we had. So I 154 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,560 want to acknowledge they did uh make 155 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,319 some adjustments, changes, 156 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:17,440 modifications, updates. Um a pretty 157 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,800 meaningful accomplishment in a short 158 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,039 amount of time. Obviously, staff then 159 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:23,759 had to review those uh changes and turn 160 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:26,560 around in a day, the comments um that 161 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,080 they've provided to you likely in your 162 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,000 staff report. We still have a few more 163 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,440 which I highlighted in my letter. So, 164 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,960 I'm not going to read the letter to you. 165 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,440 I just want to pull out a few main items 166 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,280 and just really make our position clear 167 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:42,720 what we'd like to ask of you. Um, so the the study and some of the comments 168 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,360 from the consultants uh addressed 169 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,840 continued issues specifically the 170 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,160 southbound turn movements on Alys's Road 171 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,440 and Hickman. The Q links will back up 172 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 longer than is provided for uh currently 173 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,240 and there's really no solution provided 174 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,639 for or discussed uh in that regard. 175 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:03,599 There's an exhibit on page 13, similar 176 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:05,280 to my concern I had on the planning 177 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,759 commission evening that allocates 90% of 178 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:10,000 the traffic generated, but leaves off 179 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,919 the other 10, calls it local roads, but 180 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:13,440 there are no local roads contributing to 181 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,280 the traffic because there's no other 182 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,120 local road access to that property. So, 183 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,639 there's still 10% of the traffic that's 184 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:21,440 missing from the study. Um, these might 185 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,479 be small things, minor things. Um but in 186 00:07:24,479 --> 00:07:26,400 addition to those things, one of the 187 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,039 other uh recommendations is a is some 188 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:31,039 restriping on the H high property, our 189 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:33,440 property. Um and while the developer did 190 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,759 reach out uh when we sent the letter to 191 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:38,400 the planning commission um and expressed 192 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,039 a willingness to talk, um we have had no 193 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:43,039 conversations about potential solutions 194 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:45,840 to our site. And as you would all know, 195 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,000 there's been lots of changes out on our 196 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,840 property over the years. the signal 197 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,160 that's there. We we paid for that signal 198 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,120 a number of years ago. Um so we've been 199 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,120 very invested in making sure that our 200 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,280 customers and the community around that 201 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,520 area can access the area safely and 202 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 efficiently. And so we obviously have an 203 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,160 interest that that continues. And so we 204 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,960 respectfully ask that the city council 205 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,720 consider a two four-week time frame here 206 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,639 where we can actually really dig into 207 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:16,400 the solutions that are being proposed 208 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,319 and make sure that they do work for 209 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:20,400 everybody. Um we would like to have a 210 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,160 seat at the table at those solutions, a 211 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,479 table that we've not yet been to. Um so 212 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:26,960 that would be our ask. And if if the 213 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,080 city council um does move forward 214 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,479 regardless of our request um then we 215 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:33,680 have some conditions that we've 216 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:36,159 requested you make on the approval if 217 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:37,680 you decide to go that direction as well 218 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,760 which is provided for in the letter to 219 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,399 you. 220 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:42,240 >> Thank you. 221 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,320 >> I believe that um Rudy will speak at 222 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,160 length about the traffic study in a 223 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,760 little bit and so we will hear more on 224 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,640 that as well. Um 225 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:57,670 another Yep. Go ahead. 226 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,440 Uh, Mayor Clark, council members, good 227 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,839 evening. My name is Robert Bell. I live 228 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:04,480 at 135 Southeast Trillium Drive here in 229 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Walke. 230 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,160 I'm here tonight as a Walke parent and 231 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,320 resident to respectfully ask that you 232 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,920 reconsider the proposed amendment to 233 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,399 chapter 135 regarding children playing 234 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:16,640 in the streets. 235 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,880 Um, I want to make something clear. I 236 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,880 support safe streets. I support 237 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,959 responsible parenting and I support 238 00:09:22,959 --> 00:09:24,480 reasonable rules that protect our 239 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,880 children's drivers and pedestrians. This 240 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,120 is an argument about safety. It's an 241 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,760 argument about proportionality. 242 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Lock key already has an ordinance 243 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,480 prohibiting playing games in the streets 244 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,240 and alleyways. 245 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,800 The proposed amendment goes farther by 246 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,640 making parents responsible for allowing 247 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,640 that conduct and making violations of 248 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,519 the code a misdemeanor. 249 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:49,120 That's a significant escalation. 250 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,800 My biggest concern is not what this 251 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,040 ordinance is intended to do. It's what 252 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,680 it could become in practice. 253 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:57,440 Imagine a quiet residential street or 254 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,120 culde-sac where neighborhood kids 255 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,839 routinely play, ride bikes, kick a 256 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:05,920 soccer ball, play street hockey. 257 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,440 They're not running recklessly into 258 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,279 traffic. They're not intentionally 259 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:11,120 interfering with vehicles. They're 260 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,360 simply playing outside with kids. They 261 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,079 live around them. 262 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:18,399 Now imagine a disagreement develops 263 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:20,560 between neighbors. [clears throat] 264 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:22,880 Under this ordinance, a neighbor could 265 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,440 repeatedly report those children. 266 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,640 Police could be called, parents 267 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,279 contacted. Ultimately, those parents 268 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:31,920 could potentially face criminal charges 269 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,440 for what they believed is letting their 270 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,680 kids use something that was ordinary 271 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:37,920 neighborhood play. 272 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:38,959 Now, a law doesn't have to be 273 00:10:38,959 --> 00:10:40,560 intentionally abused or create create 274 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,120 the possibility of abuse. That's why I 275 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,959 believe we need to be very clear about 276 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:46,480 creating criminal liability around 277 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,040 broadly defined conduct. 278 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,000 And if safety is truly the objective, 279 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,079 I believe we should regulate based on 280 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:57,279 actual safety risk. 281 00:10:57,279 --> 00:10:59,440 The proposed language treats every every 282 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,000 street essentially the same. 283 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,920 It doesn't distinguish between a busy 284 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,440 roadway and quiet residential 285 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,040 culde-sacs. 286 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,720 It simply prohibits playing games on 287 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,120 streets and alleys. 288 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,959 Why not consider measurable factors such 289 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:15,040 as traffic volume, vehicle speeds, 290 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,600 roadway classifications, visibility, or 291 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,959 other legitimate safety concerns? 292 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:23,200 A quiet neighborhood street with very 293 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,959 little traffic presents a fundamentally different risk than a busy 294 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:28,959 collector collector street or arterial 295 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:30,560 road. 296 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:33,200 If the concern is safety, let's measure 297 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,680 the risk, not simply the existence of a 298 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:38,079 street. There's something else worth 299 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:39,680 considering. 300 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:41,360 Neighborhood play isn't just kids 301 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,600 occupying the street. It's children 302 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,680 getting outside, getting physically 303 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:48,160 active, learning to cooperate, 304 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,000 developing independence, building 305 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,160 relationships. We should be encouraging 306 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,680 this behavior. I'm not asking to abandon 307 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:57,760 safety. 308 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,640 I'm [clears throat] asking you to write 309 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,000 an ordinance that recognizes the 310 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 difference between genu genuinely 311 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,600 dangerous conduct and ordinary 312 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,120 childhood. 313 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,720 Protect our children. Respect parents. 314 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,440 address real safety hazards, but don't 315 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,360 create a criminal penalty that can turn 316 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,040 ordinary neighborhood disagreements into 317 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,839 legal problems. We can have safe streets 318 00:12:17,839 --> 00:12:21,279 without criminalizing normal childhood. 319 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:24,480 >> Sir, your three minutes is up. Can you 320 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,600 conclude, please? 321 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,600 >> Yes. I I respectfully ask the council to 322 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,160 reject the mis misdemeanor provision as 323 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,470 it's currently written. Thank you. 324 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,560 So, I've received a lot of emails on 325 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,560 this topic as I believe most of council 326 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:41,519 has when we've explained back the 327 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:43,680 rationale and what is happening on a 328 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,440 couple of streets in our in our 329 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,839 community. Um, there's been very little 330 00:12:47,839 --> 00:12:49,600 concern after that. So, hopefully once 331 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,440 you hear the chief speak on it, we'll be 332 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,440 able to kind of assuage some of those 333 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,440 concerns. Um, your your quest is valid. 334 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Uh, are there additional people who 335 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,160 would like to speak? There is a hand 336 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,120 raised in Zoom. 337 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,639 >> Okay, we'll take the Zoom first and then 338 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:08,150 you can come up. [clears throat] 339 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,399 Just a moment. 340 00:13:10,399 --> 00:13:13,360 This would be Courtney. 341 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,200 uh, it is your turn to speak. 342 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,720 >> Good evening, Mayor Clark and members of 343 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,720 the city council. My name is Courtney 344 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Mishepsky. I am a direct descendant of 345 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,560 six pioneer families with deep roots in 346 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:26,240 the history of this area. 347 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,040 >> The Hammond address. Um, Courtney, I I 348 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,320 do need you to state your address for 349 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,160 the record, too. 350 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,760 >> I live in Fredericksburg, Virginia 351 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,160 currently. Um, but I am a direct 352 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,920 descendant of six pioneer families with 353 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 deep roots in the history of the area. 354 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,200 The Hammond, Sprag, Reed, Gibler, Zuck, 355 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,839 and Burkholder families. 356 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:47,519 I am here to oppose the proposed 357 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:51,279 amendment to city code section 135.04. 358 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,040 I have read both the existing code and 359 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,200 the proposed amendment. My objection is 360 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,720 not based on a misunderstanding of 361 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,120 either. I understand the city's concern 362 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,040 about children playing in traffic. The 363 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,639 issue is whether this amendment 364 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:04,480 addresses that problem with the 365 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,839 precision expected of a criminal 366 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:07,519 ordinance. 367 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:09,279 For context, Mayor Clark explained in an 368 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:10,880 email to me, and I quote, "I want to 369 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,320 give you some context that I think will 370 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,320 help clarify things, stating that the 371 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,399 amendment originated from one specific 372 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:18,160 situation involving a child playing in 373 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,000 the street where parents allegedly 374 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,839 refused multiple requests to stop the 375 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:23,920 conduct. That explains the motivation 376 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,760 for the amendment. It does not justify 377 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,680 creating a townwide criminal liability 378 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,760 provision without clearly defining its 379 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,480 limits. Mayor Clark also explained that 380 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,240 enforcement will be limited to quote 381 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,240 unquote extreme and rare circumstances 382 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,160 after parental notice and refusal to 383 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,399 correct the conduct. If those are the 384 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:42,240 limits, they belong in the ordinance, 385 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,760 not in an email explaining how the 386 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,560 ordinance is intended to be enforced. 387 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,240 The underlying prohibition may not be 388 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,160 new. The legal consequence for parents 389 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,399 is consider the Walke Cemetery. 390 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,480 Sixth Street is a historic roadway and 391 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,920 there is no protective barrier between 392 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,440 the roadway and the graves along its 393 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,680 edge. When I take my four-year-old 394 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,279 daughter to visit our family graves, 395 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,199 simply stepping out of our vehicle onto 396 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:06,880 those public rights of way could 397 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,480 technically expose me to a misdemeanor 398 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,760 and a fine of up to $855. 399 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,199 A parent could also have a vehicle 400 00:15:13,199 --> 00:15:14,800 emergency with children in the car and 401 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,480 need to move those children into a safer 402 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,959 position along a public ride ofway. That 403 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:20,959 is not children playing in traffic. The 404 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:23,440 ordinance should say so. If the city's 405 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,680 actual objective is to address parents 406 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,279 who knowingly allow dangerous street 407 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:29,199 play after notice and refusal to correct 408 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:31,199 it, then write that standard into the 409 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:33,760 law. Do not enact broader criminal 410 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,120 language and rely on enforcement 411 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,680 discretion to narrow it afterward. I 412 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,880 urge the council to reject this 413 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,040 amendment and require a precise reddraft 414 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,800 that addresses the actual safety problem 415 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,880 without creating unnecessary criminal 416 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 exposure for ordinary family activity. 417 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Thank you. 418 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,040 >> Thank you. I uh I have to admit I've 419 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,639 been a little bit surprised by some of 420 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,240 the emails I've gotten that seem to 421 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,920 think it's okay for children to play in 422 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,680 the streets on the regular basis. I 423 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,240 understand neighborhood play. Uh kids 424 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,920 play in the streets all the time in my 425 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,360 neighborhood. however they move when 426 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,440 cars come down. What we're addressing 427 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,759 today is that that is not happening. 428 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:12,160 in a neighborhood. 429 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,040 And in fact, it's caused police issues. 430 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,959 Um I don't think we should be expending 431 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:20,000 police resources to take multiple calls 432 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,959 to the same neighborhoods again and again to address issues. Um so 433 00:16:24,959 --> 00:16:27,680 your your comments are appreciated. 434 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Go ahead. 435 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,560 >> Okay. 436 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,160 >> All right. Good evening. My name is 437 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Keith Seashore and I live at 2700 438 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Northwest 167th Court in Clive, Iowa and 439 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,240 my lot butts directly up to the proposed 440 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,199 Walmart. So I am heavily and negatively 441 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:47,920 impacted by this potential placement. 442 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 So, I'm here to share some concerns 443 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 today that I have around the location 444 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,560 and also suggest some potential changes 445 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,800 that would really help maintain my 446 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,600 property value as it does unfortunately, 447 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,680 if it does unfortunately move forward. 448 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,519 First, this is not the right location. 449 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,000 There are very few Walmarts that back up 450 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,959 to a residential area. Most Walmarts are 451 00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:11,919 fully surrounded by commercial areas all 452 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:14,079 around and avoid any of the negative 453 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:16,799 pitfalls of being close to residents. I 454 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:18,160 will point out that there was a 455 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,919 potential Ankeny Walmart that was 456 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:22,480 proposed in 2024 backed up to 457 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,039 residential area that did not move 458 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:27,280 forward due to significant homeowner 459 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,200 opposition. And I really see no 460 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,840 difference here. Second is a homeowner 461 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,320 who is impacted likely the most of 462 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,480 anyone in the community and whose lot is 463 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,039 the closest to the store. The location 464 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:41,120 of the auto center along with the 465 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,960 docking placement and trash will be very 466 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,559 disruptive to my property and 467 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:46,400 surrounding neighborhoods. Excessive 468 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,960 noise from the auto center, Walmart's 469 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,000 recycling bins and semis potentially 470 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 dropping off shipments at all hours of 471 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,840 the night on the northern end will be a 472 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,559 major disruptive experience. At the very 473 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,120 least, I would hope the following could 474 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,200 be mandated by this council. There 475 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,120 should be a requirement to ensure a 476 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,120 planting of a significant number of 477 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,679 mature evergreen trees in order to 478 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:11,679 create a densely populated visual 479 00:18:11,679 --> 00:18:13,280 barrier between the back of the store 480 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,679 and my property line. This is really 481 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:17,520 important in the late fall winter when 482 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 the leaves that currently exist fall off 483 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,760 and you can have direct sight of line 484 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,160 into that building. The plan does not 485 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,480 show how many trees nor the size of the 486 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,640 trees that will be planted. From other 487 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,400 stores that I have seen where there is a 488 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,400 tree barrier line, many times I see 489 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,400 three-foot trees, half of them are dead 490 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,080 in the middle of the summer. Doesn't do 491 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,480 any good. I think Walmart could do much 492 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,960 better and make sure that we have a 493 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,600 large set of mature evergreen trees that 494 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,960 are covering my my sightelines um in my 495 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,120 property. And then secondly, light 496 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:50,480 should be placed and controlled at a 497 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,320 minimum glare to make sure there's no 498 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,440 spill over spill over into my yard. And 499 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,840 then finally, an 8- foot sound barrier 500 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,160 wall on the segment, the segmental 501 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,160 retaining wall between the store and my 502 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,640 property on the northeast perimeter 503 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,799 should be a reasonable and required 504 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:09,039 element of the site plan versus what 505 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,440 exists right now with just a cheap 4ft 506 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,440 chain link fence. That could we could do 507 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,000 much better there. And that type of wall 508 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,080 would really help minimize it sounds 509 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,919 from the store potentially coming into 510 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:22,400 my property. Walmart's value is almost 511 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,679 $1 trillion. These ass are very minimal. 512 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:28,400 It won't have any impact on the 513 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,000 profitability of this store, but would 514 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,400 have a big impact on our property, the 515 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,799 one that I own. And finally, I would 516 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:36,880 just say if this was your property, any 517 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,320 of you, I think you would ask for 518 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,720 similar concessions and making sure that 519 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,520 your value is protected the best that it 520 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,600 could. And these couple things that I 521 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000 would request are very minimal and very 522 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,600 affordable and would help me 523 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,120 tremendously. Thank you. 524 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:53,919 >> Thank you. You Thank you. Thank you. Uh 525 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:56,640 your points are well taken. Um I I know 526 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,039 that we've been in communication around 527 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:01,120 buffering and so hopefully we'll speak 528 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,200 to that tonight, but we will continue to 529 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,080 work on that if it if it moves forward. 530 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Thank you. 531 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,150 Any other comments? 532 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Interesting. Zoom. Okay. 533 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,190 An open forum is closed. 534 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Agenda item E is agenda approval. Can I 535 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,120 get a motion? Move to approve. 536 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,559 >> Second. 537 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,799 >> Any discussion? 538 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:30,320 >> Please vote. 539 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,440 >> Council member Cone, 540 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:31,840 >> yes. 541 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,039 >> Council member Grove, 542 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:33,520 >> yes. 543 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,559 >> Council member Lion, 544 00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:34,960 >> yes. 545 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,240 >> Council member Anderson, 546 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,640 >> yes. 547 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,760 >> Council member Pierce, 548 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,600 >> yes. 549 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,679 Agenda item G1, it's a public hearing on 550 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:42,880 the disposal of real estate in 551 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,679 accordance with Iowa Code 364.7. I doubt 552 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:47,039 declared this public hearing open. 553 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:48,159 Becky, have we received any 554 00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:49,440 correspondence on this? 555 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,960 >> No. and unreceived in the city clerk's 556 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,440 office. Thank you, Rudy. 557 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,720 >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Good evening, 558 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,640 council members. Up on the screen is a 559 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,520 map displaying um the rightway to be 560 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,960 transferred to the state of Iowa, 561 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,880 specifically even the Iowa Department of 562 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,120 Transportation. Outlined in the red 563 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:06,960 polygon up on that map, this is the 564 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,880 interchange of Interstate 80 and Grand 565 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,520 Prairie Parkway. Uh on the north, um the 566 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,120 city of Walke on the south of this 567 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:15,679 interchange, the city of West De Moines. 568 00:21:15,679 --> 00:21:17,440 Um working through our Grand Prairie 569 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,360 Parkway corridor enhancement project. if 570 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:20,720 you're familiar with that, we've 571 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,640 discussed that at prior workshops. Um, 572 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,440 recently just uh reviewed those bids um 573 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,919 received um going through that rightway 574 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:29,919 investigation. We noticed we did not 575 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:32,080 transfer this to the Iowa DOT as we were 576 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080 anticipated to do, expected to do as 577 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,840 part of that interchange construction 578 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,799 project um several years ago. So this is 579 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:41,120 really a cleanup item transferring the 580 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,120 necessary rightway to the DOT so they 581 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,559 can continue with their responsibility 582 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,080 for maintenance of the interchange 583 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,960 itself controlling access um distances 584 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,120 and locations as well. Uh we've worked 585 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,960 with the District 1 staff to verify the 586 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,440 area outlined in red works for their 587 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,440 continued and future maintenance efforts 588 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,360 as well as it preserves our efforts in 589 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,520 that northeast quadrant with our U 590 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,960 monument signing that we're proposing 591 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,120 with that enhancement project um and 592 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,600 access to that area as well. So, uh, 593 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,120 with that, happy to take any questions, 594 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,120 but again, this is a transfer to the 595 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,360 state of Iowa for that right away. 596 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,600 >> Thank you. Does anyone here tonight, 597 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,960 either in the council chambers or on 598 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,400 Zoom, wish to speak on this public 599 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,400 hearing item? If so, please approach the 600 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,799 podium or click on the raise hand icon 601 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:29,750 located in the reactions controls. 602 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,559 There are no hands raised in Zoom. Does 603 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:35,600 council have any questions at this time? 604 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Okay. Now, declare this public hearing 605 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,320 closed. Agenda item H1, consideration of 606 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,919 approval of a resolution authorizing the 607 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:43,280 disposal of real estate in accordance 608 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,760 with Iowa code 364.7. We have to 609 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,960 approve. 610 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,840 >> Second. 611 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,039 >> Anything further, Rudy? 612 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,280 >> Nothing to add. City staff did work with 613 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,000 the city legal staff to um prepare the 614 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,600 quick claim dee and so that's what we 615 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,960 will be transferring over to the state 616 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,880 of Iowa via that methodology. So, if 617 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,240 there's any questions of that, happy to 618 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,000 take those. But we again recommend 619 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,679 approving the resolution. 620 00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:06,960 >> Thank you. Any questions? 621 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,640 Please vote. 622 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,919 >> Council member Pierce, 623 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:10,400 >> yes. 624 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,520 >> Council member Grove, 625 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:11,919 >> yes. 626 00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:13,200 >> Council member Anderson, 627 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,679 >> yes. 628 00:23:13,679 --> 00:23:14,799 >> Council member Lion, 629 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:15,200 >> yes. 630 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,400 >> Council member Cone, 631 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,159 >> yes. 632 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:21,280 Agenda item H1, consent agenda. Can I 633 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,240 get a motion? 634 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,679 >> Move to approve. Second. 635 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:29,430 >> Any discussion? 636 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 » Please vote. Council member Cone. 637 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,080 >> Yes. 638 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,120 >> Council member Lion. 639 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,880 >> Yes. Council member Grove, 640 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,440 >> yes. 641 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:36,640 >> Council member Pierce, 642 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,039 >> yes. 643 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:38,320 >> Council member Anderson, 644 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,840 >> yes. 645 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,080 >> Item H2, consideration of approval of an 646 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,360 ordinance for the division of revenues 647 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,679 under section 403.19 code of Iowa for 648 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:47,280 the North Walke residential urban 649 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,520 renewal area 2026 ordinance parcels. 650 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 This is a second reading. Move to 651 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,960 approve the second reading of the 652 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,120 ordinance and title only. 653 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:56,559 >> Second, 654 00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:57,760 >> Jennifer. 655 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,400 >> Good evening, mayor and councel. Um, as 656 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,919 you just mentioned, this is the second 657 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:04,559 reading of the 2026 uh, TIFF ordinance 658 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,880 parcel in the North Walke uh, 659 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,600 residential urban renewal area. These t 660 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000 parcels, excuse me, are are are 661 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,559 highlighted here in green on the screen. 662 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,600 Um, as you know, uh, this these uh, this 663 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,240 tiff ordinances is due to the last uh, 664 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,240 12 months of development in this area 665 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,279 and anticipated uh, development as well. 666 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:28,159 Um the ordinance uh does establish the 667 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:31,039 uh city's ability to capture uh tiff 668 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:34,720 increment. Uh we would recommend um the 669 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,720 second reading of the ordinance. If you 670 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,919 have any questions, happy to answer 671 00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:38,880 them. 672 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:45,269 >> Thank you. Uh any questions, 673 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:46,640 » please vote. 674 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,840 >> Council member Cone, 675 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,159 >> yes. 676 00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:49,279 >> Council member Grove, 677 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:49,919 >> yes. 678 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:51,039 >> Council member Pierce, 679 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:51,600 >> yes. 680 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,960 >> Council member Anderson, 681 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,400 >> yes. Council member Lion. 682 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,760 >> Yes. 683 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,000 >> Item H3, consideration of approval of an 684 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,919 ordinance to amend chapter 135 of the 685 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:01,679 Walke Municipal Code regarding playing 686 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:03,360 in streets or alleys. This is also a 687 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,799 second reading. 688 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:06,400 >> I move to approve the second reading in 689 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,640 the ordinance and title only. 690 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,200 >> Second, Chief. 691 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,799 >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, 692 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,120 this ordinance was brought uh forth at 693 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,400 the last council meeting for 694 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,640 introduction and first reading. And as 695 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,440 you may recall, even though one incident 696 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,440 um made us realize the gap in the 697 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,919 ordinance, as we grow um that gap is 698 00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:27,919 going to become wider. And what I mean 699 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:30,240 by that is currently the way the code is 700 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,320 written um if we have a problem with 701 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000 children playing in the street, our 702 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760 alternative is to charge that child with 703 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,600 a simple misdemeanor. And we don't want 704 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,480 to do that. Um so the amendment to this 705 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,039 code takes that responsibility off of 706 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,679 the kid and puts it back on the parents. 707 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:48,640 Um the likelihood of us using this is 708 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,400 slim and I know that's no comfort to 709 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,360 some. However, uh our team uses uh good 710 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,440 judgment every single day and they talk 711 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,799 to people every single day and they 712 00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,720 educate people every single day on 713 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,240 hundreds and hundreds of laws that we 714 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,919 have at our disposal that we never 715 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:05,039 charge. Um but the goal is if we did get 716 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:06,559 into a situation where somebody just 717 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,360 refuses to obey the law, we need to be 718 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,760 able to enforce the law. and currently 719 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,039 charging a child with a simple 720 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,279 misdemeanor for playing in the street is 721 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,679 not practical. Um, so this this 722 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:21,440 amendment would take that to the parent. 723 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,360 I do also want to be clear that the 724 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,880 simple misdemeanor is a city code 725 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,440 violation and it is no different than an 726 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,840 animal at large ticket. There's no 727 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,480 fingerprints, there's no mugsh shot, 728 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,880 there's no um federal criminal history 729 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,640 that goes with it. Um, yes, it would 730 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240 show up on Iowa courts as a city code 731 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,720 violation, but it is the exact same 732 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,440 charge as a dog at large ticket. And the 733 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,120 reason for that is because our city code 734 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,080 under section 1.14 defines a standard 735 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,320 penalty of any city code violation as a 736 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,559 simple misdemeanor just flat across the 737 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,320 board. Um, and that's just the way that the law works. We have to have a 738 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,480 penalty in our code and um, by our code, 739 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,919 the standard penalty is a civil 740 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:03,679 misdemeanor. So whether you get written 741 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:05,279 a ticket for a dog at large or whether 742 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,120 you get cited for allowing your kids to 743 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:08,720 play on the street, it's the exact same 744 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,240 thing. 745 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,279 Along with that, um 746 00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,200 I [clears throat] also Mr. Bell's 747 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,919 comments uh about there are there are 748 00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:19,679 different risks with different roadways. 749 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:23,440 are. However, um number one, it's 750 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,520 impractical to separate out specific 751 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,919 streets and code, but number two, those 752 00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,760 vehicles backing out of driveways or 753 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,679 pulling out of driveways in the streets 754 00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,640 actually create just as much problem as 755 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,279 a uh you know, street that's heavily 756 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:39,360 traveled. Now, certainly not to the 757 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,120 level of Pikmin or University or Grand 758 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,279 Prairie, right? Um, but those parents 759 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,080 that back out of their driveway and um 760 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320 are used to doing that on a daily basis, 761 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,000 I would argue are probably paying less 762 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,919 attention uh than those kids, those 763 00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:53,440 parents that are driving down the street 764 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,520 on maybe a collector street or something 765 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,200 of that nature. So, um we do feel that the the amendment is necessary and 766 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,880 we feel that it's justified. 767 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,480 Additionally, to the comment online, 768 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,159 I can't pronounce Courtney's last name. 769 00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:10,640 I apologize, Courtney. Um, but to your 770 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,279 comment, the code is clear on what we're 771 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,279 talking about, and that is it is 772 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,520 unlawful for any person to coast, sled, 773 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,840 or play games in streets or alleys. The 774 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600 code says nothing about stepping outside 775 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,320 of a vehicle to cross a street or to get 776 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,799 to a sidewalk or walking down the side 777 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,880 of a street in the essentially in the 778 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,399 gutter area where you're not in the 779 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,720 travel lane. Uh, the code is very very 780 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,520 clear on what is uh prohibited by this 781 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,000 section. We're not changing that at all. 782 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Again, today if we were to enforce it, would be enforced against the child. 783 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,840 And our preference is to change that to 784 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,159 where we speak with the parents. If the 785 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:48,799 parents refuse to comply after multiple 786 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,799 times of talking to them, then we could 787 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,600 charge that. Additionally, the court 788 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600 process is designed where we have to 789 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,279 show our case and we have to go and 790 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:58,720 prove our case beyond a reasonable 791 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,799 doubt. So, a situation where a neighbor 792 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:02,880 calls in on another neighbor, it we're 793 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,320 not going to take something that's a he 794 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,919 said, she said incident to court because 795 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:07,360 we can't prove that beyond a reasonable 796 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,880 doubt. We're going to have to have this 797 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,039 the evidence sufficient to do that as we 798 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:13,360 would with any other case. So, hopefully 799 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,960 that quells a little bit of that. I know 800 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,320 there's still some concerns. I 801 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240 understand that. But ultimately, streets 802 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,159 are for vehicles. They're designed for 803 00:29:20,159 --> 00:29:21,760 cars. They're designed for traffic. 804 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,520 They're not designed for people. And 805 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,120 what we're trying to do is keep our kids 806 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,559 safe. We're trying to keep Mr. Bell's 807 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,720 kids safe. We're trying to keep other uh 808 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,720 people in the community safe. So with 809 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,480 that, I'll take any questions. 810 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,640 >> Thank you. Any questions? 811 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,240 >> Chad, to be clear, this is state law, 812 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,720 correct? 813 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,159 >> There is a state law that co that 814 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:42,320 corresponds with this. Yes. State law 815 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,720 says that cities are required to keep um 816 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,760 streets free of um it defines it as 817 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,159 nuisance. I believe um which is anything 818 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:52,799 that prohibits or conflicts with vehicle 819 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,799 traffic. So, there is a state law that 820 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,880 this city code is based off of. 821 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,600 Additionally, I would say that, and I 822 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000 haven't gone and looked, but if you 823 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240 researched any city in the United 824 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,399 States, chances are you're going to find 825 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:08,559 the exact same language. Uh, because 826 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,240 when I was in Kansas, we had the exact 827 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,760 same language. Windsor Heights has the 828 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,840 exact same language. Clive, Urbandale, 829 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,200 uh, we were talking at Chief's meeting, 830 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,559 they have the exact same language. So, 831 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:20,320 this is not an US thing. 832 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,200 >> Thank you. 833 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840 >> Other questions? What is the difference 834 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,279 um with the it just being ticketed like 835 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:29,120 if you parked on the side of the road 836 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,559 when you weren't supposed to during the 837 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,039 snow to like a ticket that's a simple 838 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,080 misdemeanor. 839 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,880 >> So a traffic infraction um are things 840 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,360 that are outlined by state code which we 841 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,520 adopt as a city code. So like speeding 842 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,360 and stuff of that nature. Those are 843 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000 traffic infractions that are specific to 844 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,720 um the Iowa code 321 that deals with 845 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,679 traffic. because this is a city code. Um 846 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:53,679 that is something that the city adopts 847 00:30:53,679 --> 00:30:55,919 that we don't enforce under state code. 848 00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:58,559 And again, our uh code of ordinances 849 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:00,880 under section 1.14 at the beginning 850 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120 defines any penalty for any violation of 851 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,870 city code as a simple misdemeanor. 852 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,630 » Anything else? 853 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:20,549 » Please help. 854 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:21,919 Council member Grove, 855 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:22,480 >> yes. 856 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240 >> Council member Anderson, 857 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,960 >> yes. 858 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,080 >> Council member Cone, 859 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,799 >> yes. 860 00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:27,840 >> Council member Lion, 861 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,320 >> yes. 862 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,440 >> Council member Pierce, 863 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,399 >> yes. 864 00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:34,720 Agenda item H4, consideration of 865 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,080 approval of an ordinance to amend 866 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,360 chapter 26 park regulations by amending 867 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,399 section 26.12 dogs restricted to rename 868 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:46,960 section 21 26.12 as dogs and to include 869 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,960 dog park rules and regulations. It's 870 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,679 definitely a Monday. Uh third and final 871 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:54,586 reading on this one. Go ahead. 872 00:31:54,586 --> 00:31:55,360 [laughter] 873 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,039 Move to approve the third reading of the 874 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,880 ordinance and title only and place it on 875 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760 final passage. Second, Matt, 876 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,679 >> I have nothing further to add from the 877 00:32:03,679 --> 00:32:05,679 first two readings. As a reminder, this 878 00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:08,559 is a cleanup uh to put the dog park 879 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,640 rules from a resolution into the 880 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,279 ordinance. I'd be happy to answer any 881 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:17,669 questions you might have. 882 00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:19,200 » Please vote. 883 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,240 >> Council member Cone, 884 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,640 >> yes. 885 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,679 >> Council member Lion, 886 00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:22,159 >> yes. 887 00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:23,360 >> Council member Grove, 888 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:23,760 >> yes. 889 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,960 >> Council member Anderson, 890 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,360 >> yes. 891 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,640 >> Council member Pierce, 892 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,000 >> yes. 893 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,240 Item H5, consideration of approval of a 894 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,360 resolution approving development 895 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,440 agreement with Alderbrook LLC, Jay 896 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,679 Lararsson Holmes LLC, and Walke Commons 897 00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:42,080 LLC at 310th Street, Can I get a motion? 898 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,519 >> Move to approve. 899 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:44,960 >> Second, Andy. 900 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,399 >> All right. Good evening, Mayor Clark and 901 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:48,080 council members. Uh, before you tonight 902 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,440 is consideration of a developers 903 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,960 agreement um with Alderbrook LLC, Jay 904 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,679 Lararsson Holmes LLC, and Walke Commons 905 00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:58,559 LLC. Um really the driver of this 906 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,679 development agreement is the um hotmix 907 00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:04,799 asphalt or HMA overlay of 310th Street. 908 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,159 Uh it's about 1.15 miles worth of uh 909 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:10,399 asphalt overlay of 310th Street. That 910 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:13,679 would be just uh west of the southwest 911 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:15,519 corner. So this property right here, if 912 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:16,960 you can see on the screen where I've got 913 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,880 my my little red dot, that's the 914 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,559 southwest corner of the civic campus 915 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,799 property that the city owns. Uh the city 916 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,640 previously asked did an asphalt overlay 917 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,519 of UP place and then the rest of 310 918 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:29,279 street out towards Sixth Street. This 919 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,279 would be an asphalt overlay of the 920 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,919 remainder of 310 street over to T Avenue 921 00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:36,480 and then a short section of T Avenue to 922 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,320 the northwest corner of the Alderbrook 923 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,799 property. Um in addition uh the 924 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:42,159 development agreement outlines the 925 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:45,200 responsibility of uh inst installation 926 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,679 of a public water man along this roadway 927 00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:49,760 as well. And really the whole purpose of 928 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,679 this agreement is because there are 929 00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:54,399 several uh residential uh subdivisions 930 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:56,960 um either under construction now um 931 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,039 within this area or in the near future 932 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,039 will be under construction. Uh they have 933 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,000 a need to get this asphalt overlay 934 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,760 completed probably sooner rather than 935 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,079 later. Uh so that way we uh kind of quit 936 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,159 getting some dust complaint uh dust 937 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,240 complaints. And then in addition, there 938 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,159 are uh these developments also need 939 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,560 public water main um access to them for 940 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,240 future fire flows and things like that. 941 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,960 So um city staff has worked with uh the 942 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,879 three different parties. Um they've all 943 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:25,040 agreed to pay their fair share. Uh the 944 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,520 agreement outlines the responsibilities 945 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,599 um for this and the city attorney has 946 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,119 prepared the agreement and staff 947 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:32,960 recommends approval of the development 948 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,599 agreement. Happy to take any questions. 949 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,399 >> Thank you. Any questions? 950 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:40,480 >> I have one quick question. Um, I 951 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,960 remember we had um we had a couple of 952 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,200 residents that came to us um about 953 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,520 development in this area and had some 954 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,280 concerns about the construction traffic 955 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,119 creating dust in their house. Is that 956 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:52,480 the same 957 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,919 >> that this would be kind of the same 958 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:54,480 area? Yep. 959 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,119 >> Okay. Yep. 960 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,960 >> Um Okay. I just wanted I was just 961 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,800 curious if it was that resident that was 962 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,720 impacted or if this was 963 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,960 >> uh this would this would aid in some of 964 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,480 those dust control complaints for 965 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,079 several of those residents within this 966 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:06,560 area. 967 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,240 >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Yep. 968 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,280 Please vote. 969 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,480 >> Council member Grove, 970 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,880 >> yes. 971 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,920 >> Council member Cone, 972 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,560 >> yes. 973 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,680 >> Council member Pierce, 974 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,240 >> yes. 975 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,440 >> Council member Anderson, 976 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:19,839 >> yes. 977 00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:20,880 >> Council member Lion, 978 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,880 >> yes. 979 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,040 >> Item H6, consideration of approval of a 980 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,320 resolution approving construction 981 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,200 drawings for 310th Street and T Avenue. 982 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Move to approve. Second, Andy. I I think 983 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,000 I pretty much described what's all 984 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,599 included in these plans, but uh this 985 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,200 includes again about 1.15 mile worth of 986 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,119 uh asphalt overlay of 310th Street. 987 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,599 Again, west of UP Place and then over to 988 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,240 T Avenue and then just south uh to the 989 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,000 north northwest corner of the Alderbrook 990 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,839 development, which is this area here 991 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:51,920 that's shown on that I'm pointing to 992 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,400 here with the red dot. Um the Alder 993 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,240 Brook development would con continue to 994 00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:00,560 do phases of a asphalt overlay of um uh 995 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480 T Avenue as they continue to complete 996 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960 their various phases of that project. Um 997 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,800 in addition, there's a 12-in water man 998 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 that would be extended along 310th 999 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,560 Street and then it would transition to 1000 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,880 an 18-in water man as it goes south 1001 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,520 along T Avenue. Uh staff is recommending 1002 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,119 approval of the construction plans for 1003 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,839 310th Street and T Avenue. I'm happy to 1004 00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:24,800 take any questions. Any questions? 1005 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,320 Please vote. 1006 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,359 >> Council member Cone, 1007 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:27,760 >> yes. 1008 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,960 >> Council member Pierce, 1009 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,440 >> yes. 1010 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,560 >> Council member Lion, 1011 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,040 >> yes. 1012 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,160 >> Council member Anderson, 1013 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,560 >> yes. 1014 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,920 >> Council member Grove, 1015 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,760 >> yes. 1016 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,960 >> Item H7, Allison Hickman Development. 1017 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,119 H7A, consideration of approval of a 1018 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,119 resolution approving preliminary plat. 1019 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,119 Can I get a motion? 1020 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:46,320 >> Move to approve. 1021 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,320 >> Second. 1022 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880 >> All right. Um, so I'll present on items 1023 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,359 uh 7A and B here because they're 1024 00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:55,040 essentially the same request just a 1025 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,960 little bit different document. Uh, but 1026 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,839 the owner is Herd Land Company uh LLC. 1027 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:02,480 The applicant is Orange Development LLC 1028 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,680 and the owner and applicant are 1029 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,119 requesting approval of a preliminary 1030 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:06,800 plat and a final plat for a commercial 1031 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,720 development. Uh, the property is 1032 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,240 outlined in blue on the screen. It's 1033 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,680 located at the northeast corner of 1034 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Northeast Alys's Road and East Hickman 1035 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Road. Uh and it's uh just over 33 and a 1036 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,040 half acres in area. Uh for those uh 1037 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,280 council members, uh you'll recall this 1038 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,960 property was reszoned earlier this year 1039 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,440 from the A1 agricultural zoning district 1040 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,839 to the C1 Community and Highway Service 1041 00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:31,839 Commercial District. 1042 00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:34,320 Uh the preliminary plat 1043 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,240 up here on the screen uh is kind of the 1044 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,680 cover sheet of the preliminary plat. Uh 1045 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,359 preliminary plat and final plat identify 1046 00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:43,200 the creation of three lots again for 1047 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,520 commercial development. uh lot one, 1048 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520 which is the largest lot, uh kind of 1049 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160 takes up the north twothirds of the 1050 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,599 property and then kind of down all the 1051 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:53,440 way down into the southeast corner of 1052 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,079 it. That's 29.31 acres in area. Lot two, 1053 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,400 uh which is the larger lot at the corner 1054 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160 of the at the southwest corner of the 1055 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960 property, that's 3.19 acres in area. And 1056 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,359 lot three, which is kind of this small 1057 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:10,320 square right here, that is just over an 1058 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,280 acre in area. Uh all lots meet or exceed 1059 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,520 the minimum requirements of the C1 uh 1060 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,119 community and highway service commercial 1061 00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,079 district. Um no new public streets are 1062 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:21,920 planned for this development. Uh private 1063 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,359 streets and utilities will serve um uh 1064 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:27,440 serve the development. Um those 1065 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,599 improvements are proposed as part of the 1066 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,079 uh uh site plan for the Walmart project 1067 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,079 which we'll discuss uh here in a little 1068 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,920 bit. Uh but that would include the 1069 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,920 extension of a private street. You can 1070 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,920 kind of see the outline of it. a private 1071 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680 street that would uh access off of 1072 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,200 Hickman Road or excuse me, Northeast 1073 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,599 Alys's Road and then continue over to 1074 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:48,240 the existing access uh that shares that 1075 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,160 access point with the Westlike West 1076 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,920 Light apartment project that's directly 1077 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,320 to the east of this. In addition, there 1078 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,440 are two other access points shown uh one 1079 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,720 off of Northeast Alys's Road and one 1080 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,160 kind of in the center of the property on 1081 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040 the south side to Hickman Road. 1082 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,359 A right turn lane is proposed to be 1083 00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:10,800 added at the uh easternmost access off 1084 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,160 of uh off of Hickman Road. Um that was 1085 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,680 warranted as part of the traffic study 1086 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,200 that was submitted for the review of 1087 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,800 this project. Um this easternmost access 1088 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,920 point is a 3/4 access point off of 1089 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,000 Hickman Road. The center access off of 1090 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,920 Hickman is a restricted right in right 1091 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160 out. Uh these two access points on 1092 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,920 Hickman Road, those are the under the 1093 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,240 Iowa DO's jurisdiction. Those are 1094 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,240 predetermined access points as part of a 1095 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,760 corridor agreement that the city and the 1096 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,079 DOT already have and have had for 1097 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,560 several years. 1098 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,400 There is an additional access as 1099 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,720 indicated previously uh just north of 1100 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,400 the intersection that is a right in 1101 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,760 right out. So you'll be able to turn 1102 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000 right into that and come out of it and 1103 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,920 go right and go north on Alys's Road. Um 1104 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,400 the existing signalized intersection 1105 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,560 that's directly opposite of the H high-e 1106 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,560 uh grocery store just directly to the 1107 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,480 west that is a full signalized 1108 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640 intersection. So you'll be able to go 1109 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,359 any direction north, south, east, west 1110 00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:12,480 from that from that intersection. 1111 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,880 All proposed access points uh meet or 1112 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880 exceed the minimum requirements of the 1113 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,520 street design guide. And as indicated, 1114 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,000 the DOT has already issued permits for 1115 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 the proposed access points off of East 1116 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,102 Hickman Road. 1117 00:40:28,112 --> 00:40:29,040 [clears throat] 1118 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,960 Um, I would note there is an existing 1119 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,800 wetland area um within this development. 1120 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,960 You can kind of see it um here. It's 1121 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,240 kind of tough to see, but you can kind 1122 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:42,079 of see this small meandering 1123 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,280 wet area here. Um the developer and the 1124 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,640 property owner have secured the 1125 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,240 appropriate permits from the Army Corps 1126 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,359 of Engineers as well uh to mitigate any 1127 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:53,599 sort of impacts to the wetland areas and 1128 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,520 to purchase credits uh for wetland 1129 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,440 mitigation bank um uses. 1130 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,520 This wetland area will be rerouted via 1131 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520 storm sewer pipe that will essentially 1132 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,960 there's already a storm sewer pipe there 1133 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200 that outlets uh drainage from the Alys's 1134 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,839 road corridor and that pipe will be 1135 00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:12,400 shortened a little bit and then we will 1136 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,400 be piped and then up and around the 1137 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,800 store and will outlet up into the ex 1138 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,400 existing wetland area. Probably the 1139 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,160 largest wetland area is up here in the 1140 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319 norththeast corner of the property 1141 00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:23,839 that's not being disturbed as part of 1142 00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:25,753 this development. 1143 00:41:25,753 --> 00:41:28,400 [snorts] 30-foot landscape buffer is 1144 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,280 required to be installed or required to 1145 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,800 be installed as part of the uh project. 1146 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,079 You can kind of see those conceptual 1147 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,240 plantings along the north and east 1148 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,160 boundaries. The purpose of that is to 1149 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,680 provide screening from the adjoining 1150 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,480 residential uses to the north and to the 1151 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,079 east. 1152 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:47,599 Uh the planning and zoning commission 1153 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:48,880 did recommend approval of the 1154 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,560 preliminary plat and final plat for 1155 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,520 Allison Hickman development um at their 1156 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,760 meeting on August 11th, 2026. Um I would 1157 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,800 note that um again this is this is 1158 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,560 essentially these documents would create 1159 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,240 the lots. They're not the they are not 1160 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,000 the documents that would authorize the 1161 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,240 construction of the proposed Walmart 1162 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,760 Super Center. We'll get to that here in 1163 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,760 a little bit. So, but with that being 1164 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,599 said, uh staff would recommend approval 1165 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,520 of the preliminary plat and final plat 1166 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,680 for Allison Hickman Development. Happy 1167 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,119 to take any questions. 1168 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,040 >> Thank you. Uh if there are questions 1169 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,200 about site plan, please reserve them for 1170 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,319 that item. Um can you speak just a 1171 00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:28,079 little bit more about where exactly the 1172 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:29,520 right turn lanes are? 1173 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,680 >> Yep. So, the right turn lanes, this 1174 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,079 might be Well, 1175 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:35,760 so the right turn lane would be 1176 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,680 installed. So, here's the existing 1177 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,880 access point. Uh 1178 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,510 Yeah, it's in it. 1179 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,280 » Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes, it's 1180 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,200 right here. Yes. Existing right turn 1181 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,280 lane at the center access point. 1182 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:53,839 >> Yep. 1183 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:54,800 >> The new one. Okay. 1184 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,599 >> Yep. 1185 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:55,920 >> Thank you. 1186 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,440 >> Misspoke. 1187 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,760 >> What other questions we have? Yep. Do we 1188 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,839 have a Walmart representative here? 1189 00:43:01,839 --> 00:43:04,480 >> Uh there are applicants 1190 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,040 from the um applicant here tonight. I 1191 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,400 don't know if there's actually someone 1192 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,880 from Walmart corporate here tonight. 1193 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,400 >> Okay. Because I [clears throat] the 1194 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,599 question I have for whoever that is 1195 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,760 um 1196 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,079 is I was the thought process for this 1197 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,880 site instead of moving further south 1198 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,119 towards the interstate or even west 1199 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,640 where on Hickman where we've got tons of 1200 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,880 room and and looking for developments 1201 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,400 like that out there. 1202 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,319 I don't believe anybody from Walmart is 1203 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,560 on, but if anybody would like to address 1204 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,119 that. 1205 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,440 >> No, the applicant for this these 1206 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,640 >> Yeah, they're they're here. 1207 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,200 >> Okay. 1208 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,160 >> They can answer. 1209 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:55,670 >> Okay. I'm sure. 1210 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,520 » Joseph Parsley, Carlson Consulting 1211 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,079 Engineers, president of the company. uh 1212 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:03,119 76 uh Ledgestone Commons, Bartlett, 1213 00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,680 Tennessee 38133. 1214 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,960 I was certainly not part of the 1215 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640 selection process. I'm the civil 1216 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,640 engineer on the project, so I can't 1217 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,160 speak to demographics or what led them 1218 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,760 to choose this piece of property. The 1219 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,319 developer was heavily involved with the 1220 00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,480 selection of this piece of property. Um 1221 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960 I just can't speak to why this one was 1222 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,640 the one that they chose. 1223 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,359 >> Okay. 1224 00:44:27,359 --> 00:44:30,079 My question has to do with Sorry. 1225 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,000 >> Is there somebody online who's raised 1226 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,440 their hand to speak? Is that somebody 1227 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,670 from Walmart? 1228 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,760 » Okay. Okay. [laughter] Go ahead. 1229 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:46,160 >> Okay. Um, my question has to do with the seashores and the buffer that 1230 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,800 will be along the backside. I I agree. I 1231 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,319 wouldn't want the noise in my backyard. 1232 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:51,520 I wouldn't want the light in my 1233 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,119 backyard. And I would want as much 1234 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:54,560 buffer as possible. 1235 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,160 >> Yes, ma'am. What is the plan? 1236 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,119 >> Yes, we actually were 110 feet away from 1237 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,280 that back property line with our final 1238 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,640 grading. So, we have 110 ft of trees of 1239 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,599 existing trees in addition to the 1240 00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,160 landscape buffer that we're planning. 1241 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,920 >> Tell me about that landscape buffer that 1242 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,560 you're planning. 1243 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,640 >> Yeah, I don't have we can get to think 1244 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,920 of landscape plan once we get to the 1245 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,720 site plan and show you some more details 1246 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,800 what that looks like. But it's a 30-foot 1247 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,680 evergreen. I mean, it's smoke trees. is 1248 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160 a staggered landscape buffer in addition 1249 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,839 to the existing trees that are out there 1250 00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:30,800 today. And again, that's another 110 ft 1251 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,760 from the property. 1252 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,040 >> Those leaves will drop in the 1253 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,839 wintertime, though. So, I'm I'm curious 1254 00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:37,680 regarding their question about how tall 1255 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,839 these trees will be that you plant, 1256 00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:40,240 >> right? 1257 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:41,599 >> Because if they're baby trees, it's 1258 00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,119 going to take 20 years before they'll 1259 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:44,079 provide. 1260 00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:45,359 >> No, we we certainly can get that 1261 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:46,800 landscape plan. I just don't have that 1262 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,160 in front of me to tell you what size 1263 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,200 those were. Okay. 1264 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,040 >> Yeah, it's it's not a three-foot. It's 1265 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,000 okay. 1266 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,560 >> Mayor, I would suggest um just based 1267 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,319 upon some of the the nature of these 1268 00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:59,599 questions that it may be of value if 1269 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,440 staff would just go ahead and present on 1270 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,240 the site plan at this time and then we 1271 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,040 could follow up approval of um both 1272 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,040 items seven and eight. 1273 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,880 >> That would be fine. 1274 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,550 >> Thank you. 1275 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,440 » Gave [clears throat] me time to get a 1276 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,510 water a drink of water, I guess. 1277 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,430 All right. 1278 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,839 So, I will move on to uh item 1279 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:32,960 eight. Uh again, the owner is Herd Land 1280 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,040 Company LLC. The applicant is Orange 1281 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,359 Development LLC. Uh the property is 1282 00:46:37,359 --> 00:46:39,200 outlined in blue on the screen here. Uh 1283 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,520 it's 33.53 acres in area and uh they are 1284 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,119 the owner and applicant are requesting 1285 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:46,960 approval of a site plan to complete 1286 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,359 private site improvements. assoc 1287 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:51,040 associated with infrastructure and 1288 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,280 private road uh for the development as 1289 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,880 well as to construct a Walmart Super 1290 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,480 Center store and a um fueling station at 1291 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,240 the southeast corner of the property. 1292 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,079 Uh [clears throat] the site plan 1293 00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:08,720 identifies the construction of a 182,429 1294 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,240 foot retail store on the north side of 1295 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,640 the site. That's the uh large red box 1296 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,400 here on the screen on the top of the 1297 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,160 screen. 1298 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,560 uh within lot one of the Allison Hickman 1299 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160 uh development subdivision that we just 1300 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,240 spoke about. [snorts] Uh the store is 1301 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,760 proposed to include homegoods, 1302 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,880 groceries, outdoor goods, a pharmacy, a 1303 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,280 drive-through prescription uh area is 1304 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,880 shown here on the west side of the 1305 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,557 building 1306 00:47:32,557 --> 00:47:34,640 [clears throat] and auto service on the 1307 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,800 northeast side of the building. Uh so up 1308 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,079 here kind of where you can see my red 1309 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,079 pointer, the access into the auto 1310 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:41,520 service center would be from the east 1311 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,359 side of the building, not the north side 1312 00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:45,839 of the building. In addition, there are 1313 00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,000 five loading docks shown at the 1314 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,319 northwest corner of the building. And 1315 00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:53,920 then um a uh trash enclosure and 1316 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,400 recycling area uh located, you can kind 1317 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,640 of see this long narrow rectangle here 1318 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,119 just south of these trees um that's 1319 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:02,800 proposed up on the north side of the 1320 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,440 site. The fueling station includes a 1321 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,400 fuel canopy with 10 fuel pumps. So both 1322 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,960 sides. So there'd be 20 fueling spots 1323 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,680 and uh 1,600 square foot um uh sea store 1324 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,200 building. They're directly north of the 1325 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,373 fuel canopy. 1326 00:48:20,373 --> 00:48:22,000 [clears throat] Trash enclosure for the 1327 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,680 fuel station would be directly on the 1328 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,268 east side of the building. 1329 00:48:26,268 --> 00:48:27,599 [clears throat] One monument sign is 1330 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:29,040 planned along Hickman Road and then 1331 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,800 there's one proposed along Northeast 1332 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,839 Alice's Road. Uh based on the proposed 1333 00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:36,559 use of the site, 730 parking spaces are 1334 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,559 required and the site plan identifies 1335 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:42,079 just under 750 parking spaces. 1336 00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,800 The 10- foot wide trail exists along uh 1337 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,480 East Hicken Road, Racken Road Valley 1338 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,319 Trail that we're all familiar with. And 1339 00:48:48,319 --> 00:48:49,520 then as part of the site plan 1340 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,200 improvements, a 5 foot wide sidewalk 1341 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,240 would be constructed along the west side 1342 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,760 um along Northeast Alys's Road. In 1343 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920 addition uh to you can see better 1344 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,240 outline of this private road network. 1345 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,359 There would be a five- foot wide 1346 00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:05,440 sidewalk constructed on at least one 1347 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,040 side of the private road network to 1348 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,800 facilitate pedestrian movement 1349 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,000 throughout the throughout the 1350 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,119 development. [snorts] 1351 00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:13,839 [clears throat] As we discussed, uh as 1352 00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:15,920 far as access points, uh there's an 1353 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,079 existing 3/4er access point in the very 1354 00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:20,800 southeast corner of the site. There is a 1355 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,319 ride in right out in the center of the 1356 00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:24,800 site from Hickman Road. Uh there is a 1357 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,119 right in right out um just north of the 1358 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:29,359 intersection along Northeast Alice's 1359 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:31,520 road. The full access point would be 1360 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,000 here at the signalized intersection. And 1361 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,839 then this site plan does show an 1362 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:37,440 additional ride in right out access 1363 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,480 point uh just to the north or very at 1364 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,559 the very northwest corner of the site. 1365 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,520 Um the primary uh need for this access 1366 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,359 point is for um uh deliveries and truck 1367 00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:50,640 deliveries and things like that. That's 1368 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,559 how deliveries would be facilitated to 1369 00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,870 the site. Again, [clears throat] 1370 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,559 Iowa DOT has issued permit 1371 00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:00,160 authorizations for the work within the 1372 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,480 DOT ride ofway. Um, as previously 1373 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,079 discussed, the right-hand turn lane 1374 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:06,079 would be installed at the center uh 1375 00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:10,069 access point. 1376 00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:12,000 Let's see here. 1377 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,599 The extension of the private streets 1378 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:15,760 also that are included with this are 1379 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,000 within the site plan improvements as 1380 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,359 well as uh um storm sewer, sanitary 1381 00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:23,520 sewer and water main would be extended 1382 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,359 throughout the development to provide 1383 00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:27,920 access to utilities. Storm water 1384 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,559 management would be accounted for in a 1385 00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,200 regional storm water detention basin 1386 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,640 kind of up in the northeast corner of 1387 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,800 the site. Uh that pond would be owned 1388 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,960 and maintained by the owner of lot one. 1389 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960 Um, 1390 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,079 so that [clears throat] would provide 1391 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:44,720 detention for lots two and three as well 1392 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,319 into the in the future when they do 1393 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:48,079 develop. 1394 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:50,640 A phototric plan has been submitted for 1395 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,160 review and demonstrates compliance with 1396 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,520 the lighting requirements. So I know 1397 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,960 there was a comment previously during 1398 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,520 the open forum. Um, so we reviewed that 1399 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,359 phototric plan. Um, there shouldn't be 1400 00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:02,079 any light spill over to the north, east, 1401 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,440 or really into any perimeter boundary. 1402 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,440 Um maybe a little bit of lighting here 1403 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,200 kind of at these uh uh access points um 1404 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,400 just simply because you want to make 1405 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,920 sure you have some lighting there as 1406 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,680 well. But there shouldn't be any light 1407 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,480 spill over um along the north or east 1408 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,400 property boundaries certainly. Um all fixtures are required to be full cut 1409 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,800 off which basically means you have your 1410 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,240 plane of your fixture and basically so 1411 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,200 that no light light only goes down. It 1412 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,960 doesn't go out this way or go up this 1413 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,280 way. So there's no uplighting proposed 1414 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,839 as part of this. 1415 00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:41,839 Uh the landscaping and open space 1416 00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:44,480 requirements are being met. A total of 1417 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,119 20% of open space is required and the 1418 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,640 site plan indicates that 43.9% is being 1419 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,160 provided. Uh as we previously discussed, 1420 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,400 um a 30-foot landscape buffer is 1421 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,839 required along the north and east 1422 00:51:57,839 --> 00:51:59,520 boundaries. 1423 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,440 um which the site plan does demonstrate 1424 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,319 compliance with that. I would note um as 1425 00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:06,400 I believe Mr. Parsley uh indicated, 1426 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,720 there's a pretty good stand of existing 1427 00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,960 mature trees along that north boundary. 1428 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,559 Um in fact uh took a trip out there last 1429 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:16,079 week just to kind of go take a look at 1430 00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:18,720 it. Um Heard Herd Land Company, the 1431 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,000 current property owner, has done some 1432 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,079 tree clearing on that property already. 1433 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:23,760 Um and for the most part, they've 1434 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,280 removed the trees that need to be 1435 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,839 removed for this development. So, um, 1436 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:29,520 there's a pretty good stand of trees out 1437 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,079 there already. Um, so we'll certainly 1438 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:34,800 have to evaluate, um, based on what 1439 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,960 additional plantings may be required as 1440 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,280 part of this buffer, um, depending on if 1441 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,359 any other additional removals happen 1442 00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:43,280 throughout construction. Um, but 1443 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,359 currently the, uh, the site plan does 1444 00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:46,960 demonstrate compliance with the buffer 1445 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,200 requirement. Um those tree plantings, 1446 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,960 sorry, 1447 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,559 uh those tree plantings, our code 1448 00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:57,280 requires a minimum of a 6ft high 1449 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,640 evergreen tree, um 6 foot high 1450 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,200 ornamental tree, and then a minimum of 8 1451 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,240 foot uh um overstory tree when they're 1452 00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,960 planted. So, um, you know, while they're 1453 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,240 not giant mature trees at the time they 1454 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,000 get planted, they are meeting the code 1455 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,720 minimums as it relates to, um, minimum 1456 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,079 heights and things like that at the time 1457 00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:20,480 of planting. As far as species are 1458 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,880 concerned, I'd have to really dive into 1459 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,480 the landscape plan to tell you what 1460 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,240 species and things like that. But what I 1461 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,400 can tell you is our landscape buffer 1462 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,040 requirements require uh for a 30-foot 1463 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,119 buffer, I believe it's two evergreen 1464 00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:36,960 trees and uh two ornamental trees and 1465 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,520 one overstory tree for every 50 lineal 1466 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,640 foot of buffer. So every 50 ft they need 1467 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,880 to be providing every 50 ft of that 1468 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,520 buffer area they have to provide so many 1469 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,119 trees of those different types of 1470 00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,920 species. Now, whether they're [sighs] a 1471 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,079 blue spruce or, you know, some other 1472 00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:55,680 type of evergreen tree, that's not 1473 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,440 necessarily up for us to decide. That's 1474 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,359 up for a landscape architect to design 1475 00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:00,880 and make sure that it's compliant with 1476 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,839 our code. 1477 00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:05,599 Um, [clears throat] 1478 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,880 the elevations of the proposed building 1479 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,800 to that here. 1480 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,480 And I've got some renderings that show the rent the elevations a 1481 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,800 little better. Uh the proposed building 1482 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,960 is proposed to be constructed primarily 1483 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,359 of pre-cast concrete panels of various 1484 00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:23,040 textures. So there's kind of some smooth 1485 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,119 panels. There's some textured panels 1486 00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,680 that kind of have a brick look to them. 1487 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,319 Uh some masonry. Uh architectural metal 1488 00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:32,160 paneling and glazing are shown on the 1489 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,200 elevations. Uh fencing used for accents 1490 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,880 and screening is shown to be an 1491 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,720 ornamental style fencing. So kind of 1492 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,897 like your row iron looking type fencing. 1493 00:54:42,897 --> 00:54:43,520 [snorts] 1494 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,520 Here's a elevation of the proposed uh 1495 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,599 fueling station building. Again, very 1496 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,720 similar materials to the proposed super 1497 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:53,920 center store. 1498 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,480 Uh here's the fuel canopy elevation. Um 1499 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,359 they have, as we've seen, uh with a lot 1500 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:02,400 of our most recent uh convenience stores 1501 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,720 that have been constructed, the columns 1502 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,720 for the fuel canopy have been wrapped in 1503 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,442 brick. 1504 00:55:08,442 --> 00:55:09,280 >> [snorts] 1505 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480 >> Here's just an elevation of that uh uh 1506 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,400 trash enclosure area that's on the just 1507 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,400 to the north of the building. Uh those 1508 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,160 are pre-cast concrete panels with a 1509 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,319 texture. 1510 00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:22,720 So the back side of this would face 1511 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,520 north. Uh so the very north line of the 1512 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,520 property. And here's kind of some 1513 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,880 renderings of that. This gives you a 1514 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,119 little bit better perspective and 1515 00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:34,720 see kind of some of the textures, the 1516 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:39,910 articulation of the building. 1517 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,480 So this would be the souththeast corner 1518 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,000 of the building. So they kind of have 1519 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,200 their outdoor good area within this 1520 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,430 area. 1521 00:55:51,440 --> 00:56:01,030 There's the autocare area. 1522 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,280 Uh staff did receive uh some 1523 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,880 correspondence prior to the planning and 1524 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,319 zoning commission meeting. Uh that 1525 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:07,920 correspondence was passed on to the 1526 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,000 commission as well as was included in 1527 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,280 your packet um here tonight. Um in 1528 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,599 addition uh staff also received some 1529 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,839 correspondence from uh HY as uh the 1530 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:21,040 gentleman uh previously uh spoke tonight 1531 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,640 uh regarding some of their concerns 1532 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,119 related to the initial traffic study. Uh 1533 00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:28,079 staff did um present that to the uh 1534 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:29,440 planning and zoning commission at their 1535 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,440 meeting on August 11th. Uh the 1536 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,280 commission did recommend approval uh 1537 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,520 subject to addressing um some of those 1538 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,839 concerns within the traffic study. Uh 1539 00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:40,400 staff did request that the applicant 1540 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,079 prior to being placed on a city council 1541 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:44,799 agenda uh to address uh some of those 1542 00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:47,599 deficiencies in the traffic report. Um 1543 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,960 the applicant's engineer was able to um 1544 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,079 uh address those deficiencies. Uh Rudy 1545 00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:55,760 and his team have reviewed the traffic 1546 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,720 study. Um, in addition, we did have uh 1547 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:01,119 two third-party engineering firms review 1548 00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:03,359 that traffic study late last week. Uh, 1549 00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:05,760 Snyder and Associates as well as both. 1550 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,839 Um, their correspondence was included in 1551 00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:11,119 the packet uh packet here tonight. Um, 1552 00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:13,520 they did agree with the uh methodologies 1553 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,760 that the way that the study was done um 1554 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,520 the way that the numbers were updated to 1555 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,640 reflect more current traffic um and did 1556 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,400 agree with the recommendations as a 1557 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,319 result of or what was resulted in the 1558 00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:26,480 traffic study. And I would note that um 1559 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,040 the recommendations between the initial 1560 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,799 traffic study and then the traffic study 1561 00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:32,880 that was provided late last week, the 1562 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,799 recommendations of that essentially did 1563 00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:37,920 not change. So um while it was it was a 1564 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,240 good exercise to update that, make sure 1565 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,839 we had current numbers, the 1566 00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:43,599 recommendations of the traffic study did 1567 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:45,680 not change. Um so I just want to make 1568 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,920 sure that the council is aware of that. 1569 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,400 [clears throat] 1570 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,400 Um, 1571 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,319 not to reiterate uh what's already been 1572 00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:56,960 said here tonight, um, IV did submit a 1573 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,799 letter today, uh, which I believe I had 1574 00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:00,319 asked Becky to print out for all of you 1575 00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:03,040 to have up there tonight. Uh, just some 1576 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,359 of their concerns related to, um, 1577 00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:07,280 inadequate turn lane length at the 1578 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,799 southbound left turns at the 1579 00:58:08,799 --> 00:58:11,680 intersection of Alyses and Hickman. Um, 1580 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,160 striping on their property uh, that's, 1581 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,280 um, not in the public rideway. Uh, truck 1582 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,839 traffic and deliveries. um one of their 1583 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:21,440 issues was truck traffic and deliveries 1584 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,319 were not analyzed by the study and then 1585 00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:28,160 um uh noted that the analysis of 1586 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,000 Northeast Horizon Drive did not take 1587 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,760 into account the widening of Northeast 1588 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,079 Alys's road. So, our current widening 1589 00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:37,040 project that we have going on right now. 1590 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,040 um specifics related to the traffic 1591 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,559 study. I'd be happy to have my 1592 00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,960 knowledgeable colleague Rudy Caster um 1593 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,359 answer as well, but uh um happy to take 1594 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:52,160 any questions uh that 1595 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,839 >> Rudy, do you have slides to present on 1596 00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:57,760 the traffic study? Something to present 1597 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,430 comments, please make them. 1598 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,440 » Thank you, mayor. Um just a few comments 1599 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,400 there. Thanks Andy for that summary. Um 1600 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,359 really um thorough and certainly covered 1601 00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:13,119 all the five access points into and out 1602 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,440 of the site. Um I will note that 1603 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,920 southbound left dual left turn lane and 1604 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,160 the defic deficiency shown there in the 1605 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,400 10 year and 20 year lookout. Um we're 1606 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,119 talking about 35 ft um of a deficiency. 1607 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:29,680 There's about 80 um about 90 feet of um 1608 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,480 a full single lane in the taper of that. 1609 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,680 So, if you read in the report, 240 is 1610 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,559 the uh official full length width, but 1611 00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:40,720 there's another 90 ft in the taper that 1612 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,079 accounts for one full lane. So, if you 1613 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:43,680 divide that over two, we're talking 1614 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,760 about 35 ft of a deficiency on those 1615 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,720 southbound lanes um per lane. Um that's 1616 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,040 about a car and a half each. Um 20 ft is 1617 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,119 about approximately your car length. Um 1618 00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:54,720 so, again, staff reviewing that, 1619 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,480 understanding it. Um really in the 1620 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,760 conversations I've had with um KLA 1621 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160 um their engineers that were working 1622 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,720 with um um Joseph here um their 1623 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,319 assumption for the eastbound traffic 1624 01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:10,640 heading east on Hickman Road. Um there's 1625 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,559 a lot to be realized in the next 5 years 1626 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:14,640 on the Alys's Road corridor improvements 1627 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,160 as well as the Douglas Parkway corridor 1628 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,400 improvements and how traffic will likely 1629 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,960 find its way to the north and east via 1630 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,520 those improved corridors. um the 1631 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,599 assumption of 40% of the the Walmart 1632 01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,680 generated traffic or the the sites 1633 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,440 generated traffic going back to the east 1634 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,000 when you have three stores within seven 1635 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,040 miles [clears throat] or less to the 1636 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,440 northeast east and southeast is highly 1637 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,400 conservative. Um we feel that that um 1638 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,880 conservatism really just benefits that 1639 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,559 southbound left turn lane deficiency 1640 01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:44,720 shown in this report. So, um, we have 1641 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,880 the ability to capture the real-time 1642 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,400 traffic data, and we look forward to 1643 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,640 capturing that as as this project moves 1644 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,559 forward, if this project moves forward, 1645 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:54,160 as well as the remaining growth in the 1646 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,599 community. We took a percent and a half 1647 01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:57,920 growth um through this area for 1648 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,440 background traffic. That's really the 1649 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,920 driving number behind um some of these Q 1650 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,920 lengths that we're seeing in that 10 and 1651 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:10,079 20 year lookout. So, again, um it is a crystal ball here. This this 1652 01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:12,480 methodology is, but it is sound. uh it 1653 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:13,920 has been vetted by two other outside 1654 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,359 engineers that we work with and have 1655 01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:17,440 confidence in their and trust in their 1656 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,559 um understanding. So um so there's that 1657 01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,240 on the southbound Q links. I mentioned 1658 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,079 the stores in proximity to the east, 1659 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:27,359 northeast and southeast um likely um 1660 01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:30,240 driving down that east movement traffic. 1661 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,920 Um there is one turn lane on the west 1662 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,880 leg of the signalized H high and 1663 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,359 proposed developments intersection. uh 1664 01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:41,040 it's it's within the public facilities 1665 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,640 and use easement that's out there or 1666 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,640 that was given to the city when this 1667 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,200 traffic signal was constructed in 2018. 1668 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,960 That's the only striping modifications 1669 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,440 that's being um noted on the site 1670 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,680 planned um that the developer is 1671 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,760 showing. So nothing further into this 1672 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,880 the HY um site at this point that I've 1673 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,559 seen or understand from their 1674 01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,400 improvements. So, it's really removing 1675 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,400 that that right turn arrow because that 1676 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,839 becomes now a through and right turn 1677 01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:07,440 lane as you're heading eastbound out of 1678 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,920 the H high store. Um removing that or 1679 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,359 modifying it to a through and right 1680 01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:13,760 arrow is really the modifications there. 1681 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,839 So, um staff um um the engineering 1682 01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:20,000 staff, Joseph and his team did share 1683 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,520 turning or truck turning templates 1684 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,799 coming out of that signalized 1685 01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:24,960 intersection um out of the Walmart site, 1686 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,799 out of the Hi- ve site. Um there are 1687 01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:28,799 median modifications on Alys's road to 1688 01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:30,720 pull those noses back to accommodate 1689 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,799 those um semi-trailers. So it's a 1690 01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:34,960 semi-tractor with a 50-ft trailer coming 1691 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,440 out of those entrances east and west. Um 1692 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,599 we have to pull those median noses back 1693 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,720 5 to 10 feet. Um pretty typical or 1694 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,520 anticipated modification there. Um 1695 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,599 something we hoped that we had figured 1696 01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:49,040 out when we originally constructed 1697 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,319 Alys's Road in phase 5 about um seven 1698 01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:54,240 years ago, but um we just didn't quite 1699 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,319 get those right. So, um those are those 1700 01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:57,920 modifications are part of the site plan 1701 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,319 improvement shown um with the Walmart 1702 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:02,480 Super Center. 1703 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,200 Um as I mentioned uh or as was 1704 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,720 mentioned, the configuration and 1705 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,400 analysis at um Northeast um Horizon 1706 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,640 Drive and Alice Road that revision of 1707 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,240 the lane configuration of Alison Road 1708 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,799 was included in the updated TSI. Um I 1709 01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:18,799 had that specific conversation and did 1710 01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:21,520 verify that later this um today as well. 1711 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,359 So that that did update that. It 1712 01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:25,119 actually improved that eastbound left 1713 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:27,440 turn um on Horizon Drive as you were to 1714 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,680 turn left to go north on Analysis Road. 1715 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,280 Having those multiple lanes provides 1716 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,760 more of a gap opportunity um as well as 1717 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,160 a vehicle that may be crossing the 1718 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,559 southbound too, stopping in kind of that 1719 01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,960 middle island um area and then 1720 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,359 proceeding with that left turn. So um 1721 01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:45,839 again all levels of services are um a 1722 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:48,559 level of D or higher at our um five 1723 01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:51,200 intersections or five entrances or um 1724 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,760 yeah entrances into the development. So 1725 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,559 again to summarize it all staff has 1726 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,240 confidence and certainly myself I have 1727 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,880 confidence after um going over this 1728 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,280 traffic impact study the original the 1729 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,000 revisions um as to what we're presenting 1730 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,000 here and the recommendations presented. 1731 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,559 So happy to take any questions uh and 1732 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:13,119 any of those points if you have any. So 1733 01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:14,880 >> okay, for just a second let's keep any 1734 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,480 questions to traffic. We'll go back to 1735 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,880 buffering in a minute. Um are there 1736 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,520 questions related to traffic before we 1737 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,119 let Rudy sit down? 1738 01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,200 >> I don't think so. 1739 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,599 >> And I will add one more point. Sorry 1740 01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:30,160 >> comment. 1741 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,839 >> There was going to be a comment. Um when 1742 01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:34,559 this signal was constructed in 2018, it 1743 01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:37,680 was paid by both the HY um ownership as 1744 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,359 well as the east owner at the time, 1745 01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:41,760 which I believe was Right Tree Service. 1746 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,079 Um so they paid for this intersection 1747 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:47,520 50/50. Um and so the city owns and 1748 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,160 operates it today, but certainly we are 1749 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,920 um there are modifications to some of 1750 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,359 those signal heads that are being 1751 01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:55,520 proposed again being paid for by the 1752 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,920 developer um that will be modified at 1753 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,160 their expense um this time and or for 1754 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,920 this effort. So, um, certainly if 1755 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,559 there's continued conversation with, um, 1756 01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:07,280 as the letter and that HY presented 1757 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,839 today about continued discussion about 1758 01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:11,680 an access agreement, we're happy to have 1759 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,280 those between the two parties and 1760 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,119 ourselves. Um, we want to be a party of 1761 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,839 that if that does come to fruition as 1762 01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:23,440 well as um, yeah, that that was one thing. And 1763 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,039 then a couple other items that they 1764 01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:26,880 mentioned on, we did hit on the horizon 1765 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,880 drive analysis was corrected. Um the 1766 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,720 truck circulation Andy indicated that 1767 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,400 north right in right out is their 1768 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,880 intended ingress egress for delivery 1769 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,280 semis. Um so it is set up appropriately 1770 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520 for that. Um three subject the city 1771 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,680 reviewer identified as not being 1772 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,240 discussed. Um crash history, site 1773 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,880 distance, proposed access, multimmo 1774 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,720 accommodations. Really looking at the 1775 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,359 global corridor of Alice's and Hickman 1776 01:05:51,359 --> 01:05:53,200 were treating this this development no 1777 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,880 different than priors had been treated. 1778 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,880 So looking into those aspects really 1779 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,960 wasn't justified from staff's 1780 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,079 perspective. So diving into that effort 1781 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:03,839 um certainly under the time crunch we 1782 01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:06,480 were looking at here um wasn't warranted 1783 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,880 to be discussed and included in the TSI 1784 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,119 at this point. So um and then lastly 1785 01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:13,920 that postopening traffic study um we'll 1786 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,240 be conducting that ourselves. Again we 1787 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,680 have traffic equipment out there. We're 1788 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,799 collecting traffic data 247 days a week 1789 01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:23,760 365 days a year. So, we'll be looking at 1790 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,920 um those real-time traffic datas as 1791 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,079 they're realized in the next 5, 10, 20 1792 01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,880 years and modifying timing plans for 1793 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,039 this intersection as well as the Alyses 1794 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,359 and Hickman corridors. Um so that we are 1795 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:38,000 being as efficient as we can. Um if 1796 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,599 that's taking it to the next level of 1797 01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:44,000 adaptive equipment or whatnot, um we'll see if that's warranted at that 1798 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,880 time when traffic um traffic volumes 1799 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,559 warrant that and that discussion and 1800 01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:51,440 analysis. So, um, I think that's all I 1801 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,280 have and again, happy to take any 1802 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,720 follow-up questions if you have any on 1803 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,559 this traffic analysis. 1804 01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:57,920 >> Thank you. 1805 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,440 >> Should you had a comment? 1806 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,746 >> Do Rudy, stay there for a second. 1807 01:07:01,746 --> 01:07:03,200 [laughter] 1808 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,880 >> Was this traffic study done like you 1809 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,119 said three years ago? Were we still in 1810 01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:11,119 the middle of 1811 01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:14,640 our Alys's Road project at that point? 1812 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,319 Was was this done at any point when 1813 01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:19,760 Alice's Road was closed? So, the traffic 1814 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,760 data that they utilized was December of 1815 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,839 2023. And one comment that was brought 1816 01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:26,880 up at the PNZ meeting um in the prior HY 1817 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,599 letter was it didn't realize or didn't 1818 01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:32,400 take account for Target opening um after 1819 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,799 the fact. Um which Target wasn't open in 1820 01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:37,599 December of 23. Um, so I provided them 1821 01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:40,400 February of 26 data that when Alys's 1822 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,119 Road was open north of Hickman Road um, 1823 01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:44,559 through those winter months when we had 1824 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:47,440 a few uh, opened months there with that 1825 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,000 project um, to realize what is reality 1826 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,440 and what traffic is. And so we were 1827 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,839 within a percent on Hickman Road and 1828 01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:55,760 within a few percent on Alyss Road. 1829 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,000 Actually the the traffic data they were 1830 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,240 assuming was actually higher than what 1831 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,160 uh, the real-time data was. So, we 1832 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,920 looked at a week in February that was a 1833 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,480 typical week u with school in session, 1834 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,039 with Alys's Road open, with Target open. 1835 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,119 Um, 1836 01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:12,960 >> and you said this is a bit like a 1837 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,960 crystal ball where we're kind of trying 1838 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,400 to guess. Do we know what sort of 1839 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,319 development will be happening in 1840 01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,839 Urbandale Grimes all the way up Alice's 1841 01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:26,159 Road? How much more traffic could we get 1842 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:27,679 on Alys's? 1843 01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:29,839 >> We I have an answer for that, mayor. 1844 01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:35,199 Yep. Um, we did about I want to say 1845 01:08:35,199 --> 01:08:36,719 probably been six years, maybe five 1846 01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:39,679 years. We did a northwest area study 1847 01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:41,040 with between the cities of Clive, 1848 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,120 Urbanddale, and Walke. Clive was the 1849 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,640 lead agency on that, but we looked at 1850 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,640 all of those undeveloped land uses in 1851 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,799 all three communities to the north of 1852 01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:50,640 Alys's Road Corridor as well as to the 1853 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,199 west. Um, and really that was to size 1854 01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:55,279 our corridors appropriately. So, with 1855 01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:57,679 that, what was realized was Alys's Road, 1856 01:08:57,679 --> 01:08:59,600 we have six lanes south of Pikmin Road. 1857 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,279 We tapered down to the four north of 1858 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:05,279 Hickman Road or at Horizon. Um, and that 1859 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,239 I think at that time we [clears throat] 1860 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:07,520 did 1861 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,709 >> we did a we did our 1862 01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:14,880 » Can everybody online mute themselves, 1863 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,829 please? 1864 01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:22,159 » Not entirely sure why we're unmuted to 1865 01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:23,600 begin with, but we will deal with that. 1866 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,319 >> Yeah. 1867 01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,199 >> So, we did three communities. We did a 1868 01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:30,239 traffic forecasting outlook at those um 1869 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,159 land uses. We didn't look at every 1870 01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:34,640 parcel. We just took our land use maps 1871 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,960 um and applied appropriate um traffic 1872 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,759 methodology for trip generations based 1873 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:41,839 on those land uses. So with that that 1874 01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:44,080 helped us size our corridors, Douglas, 1875 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,000 Alys's Road, Meredith, um Waterford and 1876 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,239 uh from that really what was another 1877 01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:52,560 document that solidified what we were 1878 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,719 projecting for volumes on Alys's Road. 1879 01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:57,440 So 1880 01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,239 >> other questions. 1881 01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:03,280 >> Okay, not on traffic. Thank you, Rudy. 1882 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,800 Uh 1883 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,360 go back to buffering. Uh and any other 1884 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,679 questions um related [clears throat] to 1885 01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:11,520 site plan or platting, although I want 1886 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,960 to be clear, those are two separate 1887 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,640 votes and two separate well three 1888 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,880 separate actually, but um and three 1889 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,080 separate decision points. But uh any 1890 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,320 questions related to the site plan that 1891 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,560 was presented? 1892 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,199 the seashores, 1893 01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,120 is that correct? It just didn't feel 1894 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,640 right, 1895 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,600 had mentioned um an 8 foot sound 1896 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,480 barrier. 1897 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:35,520 >> Mhm. 1898 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,760 >> That Walmart would would put the bill 1899 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:43,679 for. Is that something that we've ever had on any of our other buildings? 1900 01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:46,159 Um, I'm not aware in my time with the 1901 01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:49,760 city that um either staff or uh the 1902 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,880 council has ever required a specific 1903 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,560 going above and beyond what the code 1904 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,760 requires. Um, uh, technically our code 1905 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,120 doesn't allow 8ft fences um, in a 1906 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,679 commercial commercially zoned district. 1907 01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:05,760 >> Um, they could have up to a six foot 1908 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,560 high fence in the in a commercial area. 1909 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,560 Um, but I'm not aware that that's um 1910 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,080 that the council has ever required that 1911 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,800 something an additional barrier beyond 1912 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,120 the uh landscape buffer requirement. And 1913 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,159 I would note that the 30-foot buffer 1914 01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,159 actually requires two overstory trees, 1915 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:25,760 three evergreen trees, and two 1916 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,280 ornamental trees. So, um, per 50 lineal 1917 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,040 foot of the buffer, 1918 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,480 >> seven trees. Um in terms of the uh site 1919 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,840 plan that you've shown uh you are this 1920 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,040 is in addition to the existing tree 1921 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,640 canopy that is out there. 1922 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,560 >> It would be an addition. Yes. 1923 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,640 >> Okay. So this would be an additional 1924 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,719 seven trees per 50 ft uh per per 50 1925 01:11:50,719 --> 01:11:53,920 lineal feet uh linear. 1926 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:54,400 >> Yep. 1927 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,440 >> It's been a long day already. Um along 1928 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:01,120 both the north and east corridor. Okay. 1929 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,719 >> But I just want to remind the council 1930 01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:06,000 that again there's several mature trees 1931 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,640 that would that are proposed to remain 1932 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,360 to be kept um along that north property 1933 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,800 line as well. So um 1934 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,840 again uh as as I previously said uh 1935 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,120 that's something that we would have to 1936 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,280 address, you know, as they continue to 1937 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,159 further uh if if this project were to 1938 01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:25,920 move forward and they um get under 1939 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,520 construction that uh we might have to 1940 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,360 re-evaluate that based on what's being 1941 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,000 kept. um can they get a credit for some 1942 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,600 of those trees being kept as well? So, 1943 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,159 >> I think from the council perspective, 1944 01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:40,560 what I'm hearing is more the better. 1945 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:40,960 >> Sure. 1946 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,719 >> Uh and that that should be the 1947 01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:46,239 communication back. Uh 1948 01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:48,480 >> can anyone in the room speak to whether 1949 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:50,880 or not there would be an ability to 1950 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:59,910 discuss a some sort of sound barrier? 1951 01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:02,560 Yeah, since my client has gone beyond 1952 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,640 his 30-foot buffer, like I said, 1953 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,239 essentially in that piece of property in 1954 01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:09,360 this, you know, in question, it's 110 ft 1955 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,360 of existing landscaping we're keeping 1956 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,440 and then putting in all these trees that 1957 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:15,120 we're talking about to infill in between 1958 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,400 those gaps to help when the leaves fall 1959 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,640 to help buffer it. So again, an 8 or 6t 1960 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,280 tall wall along that property line 1961 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,840 really won't do much because the 1962 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,400 elevation change is about 30 ft down 1963 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,560 from the finished floor at the Walmart 1964 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,640 Super Center down to that creek. 1965 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,560 >> So then it does climb back up about 10 1966 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,719 ft, but a 6ft wall 1967 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:39,360 >> not going to 1968 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,719 >> it's not really going to help it. It's 1969 01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:42,640 the trees, it's the landscaping, it's 1970 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,679 those leaves and those needles. 1971 01:13:45,679 --> 01:13:46,239 >> Thank you. 1972 01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:46,719 >> Yes. 1973 01:13:46,719 --> 01:13:48,640 >> Are there other questions? It's not a 1974 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,880 public comment item. Um I'm after 1975 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,880 afterward. 1976 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,640 Um I'm going to ask if there are other 1977 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,360 questions for now. Not questions, just 1978 01:13:59,360 --> 01:13:59,840 comments. 1979 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,040 >> I just 1980 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,640 >> Go ahead, Chris. 1981 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,239 >> Have you received any any um complaints 1982 01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,480 from the people on the west side of 1983 01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:11,679 Target, that neighborhood? 1984 01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:14,080 >> Um not necessarily complaints about 1985 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,480 noise or anything like that. Um or light 1986 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:18,640 pollution. Um I'm I'm not aware that 1987 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,040 we've had um any complaints regarding 1988 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,320 that. Um okay 1989 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,640 >> I know we've had some you know 1990 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,719 complaints about you know mowing and 1991 01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:28,400 things like that but that's something 1992 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,239 that our co- compliance office officer 1993 01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:32,320 has addressed and we're not getting 1994 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,600 those complaints anymore. 1995 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,360 >> Thank you. 1996 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,840 >> Questions I have are for Walmart 1997 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,880 specifically. So, I won't ask them, but 1998 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,199 if that can get to them somehow, 1999 01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:44,159 >> same, right? 2000 01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:46,159 >> I I might have some information to share 2001 01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:48,320 if you want to. 2002 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,360 >> Perfect. 2003 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,679 >> Um, do we know what the store hours are 2004 01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:53,440 going to be? 2005 01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,199 >> Uh, I do have some information as it 2006 01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:01,270 relates to store hours. 2007 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,440 Oh, here we go. Uh, anticipated 2008 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:05,679 customerf facing hours for the store are 2009 01:15:05,679 --> 01:15:08,880 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. 7 days a week. 2010 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,360 uh which is consistent with with typical 2011 01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,400 Walmart store operating hours. Um 2012 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,600 obviously um that's a little bit 2013 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,679 different for like pharmacy and the auto 2014 01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:22,000 service center. Um I know I I looked up 2015 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,760 before the P&Z meeting as it relates to 2016 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,239 the auto service center. It appears that 2017 01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:29,040 all of our or most of the local uh 2018 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,199 Walmart ser auto service centers are 2019 01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:33,199 from like 7 am to 7 pm. So those 2020 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:36,640 wouldn't be open till 11 p.m. is is at 2021 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,560 least what my understanding is based on 2022 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,000 other local stores. Um Walmart indicated 2023 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,440 these hours are designed to provide 2024 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,719 Walke residents with convenient [clears throat] access to 2025 01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:49,280 groceries, pharmacy and health and 2026 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,440 wellness offerings, household essentials 2027 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:53,760 and other everyday products. 2028 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,679 Final hours will be established as the 2029 01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,280 store approaches opening and will be 2030 01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,719 subject to applicable local 2031 01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:01,120 requirements. 2032 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,159 >> So for the Walmart store, the main 2033 01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,480 store, and then the convenience center 2034 01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:09,199 or convenience store, do we know how 2035 01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:10,960 many full-time employees were expecting? 2036 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,400 How many part-time employees were 2037 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,719 expecting? 2038 01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:17,199 >> Let's see here. [clears throat] 2039 01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:19,920 Excuse me. Uh the super center is 2040 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,560 expected to create approximately 250 to 2041 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,040 300 local jobs providing a mix of full 2042 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,600 and part-time opportunities for Walke 2043 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,760 and the surrounding area. 2044 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,239 Um I think this is just a general 2045 01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:34,320 corporate uh statistic, but it says 2046 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,320 approximately twothirds of Walmart's US 2047 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,199 hourly store roles are full-time 2048 01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:41,520 and staffing will depend on the store's 2049 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,600 final operations, customer demand, and 2050 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,239 services offered. 2051 01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:47,199 And then just [clears throat] one more 2052 01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,880 question. Um, as far as being active in 2053 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,280 the community, do they plan on like 2054 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,440 joining the Chamber of Commerce, 2055 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:58,400 regularly donating to Waypoint, helping 2056 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,080 out with Hera, being involved with the 2057 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,520 school foundation, those types of 2058 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,000 things? 2059 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,760 >> Sure. 2060 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,110 >> Uh, [clears throat] 2061 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,920 uh, Walmart desires to become a long a 2062 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,600 long-term member and partner the 2063 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,800 community. Um, Walmart has a long 2064 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,320 history of supporting the communities 2065 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,000 where they live and work, including 2066 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,440 through relationships with local 2067 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:21,600 nonprofit organizations, 2068 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,520 schools, food security organizations, 2069 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,199 first responders, and other community 2070 01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:28,080 partners. Uh, as the Walke Store moves 2071 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,239 towards opening, local store, and market 2072 01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:31,840 leadership would look for opportunities 2073 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,679 to develop similar relationships with 2074 01:17:33,679 --> 01:17:35,360 organizations serving the Walke 2075 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,103 community. 2076 01:17:37,103 --> 01:17:39,120 [snorts] 2077 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,280 uh 2078 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:42,960 they indicate that they would also 2079 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,400 welcome the opportunity to engage with 2080 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,080 the Walke Area Chamber of Commerce and 2081 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,679 other local businesses and civic 2082 01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:51,830 organizations. 2083 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,120 » Other questions? 2084 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,080 >> Yeah, I do have a few questions. Um so, 2085 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,600 um the existing trees that you're 2086 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,239 referencing, the 110 ft of existing 2087 01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:02,719 trees, is that all on what is go what is 2088 01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:04,800 proposed to be Walmart's property? 2089 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,360 >> Yes. 2090 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:10,080 >> Okay. Um, so then the 30 extra feet that 2091 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,080 we're requiring then, so we're closer to 2092 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,040 140 ft of trees, correct? Because I'm 2093 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,560 kind of getting some wishy-washy answers 2094 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,560 on that. So I'm not exactly sure, not 2095 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,040 from you, Andy. Um Um, so I'm not 2096 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,719 exactly sure what we're referencing. 2097 01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:26,239 We're talking about filling in some 2098 01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:27,760 gaps, but then also talking about we 2099 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,120 already have 110 ft of trees. 2100 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,960 The landscaping buffer is a landscaping 2101 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,960 buffer. I think we need to be especially 2102 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,640 clear on what we're talking about and 2103 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,400 exactly how many feet of trees are going 2104 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,440 to be not just planted but maintained 2105 01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:45,590 permanently. 2106 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:46,400 » Go ahead. 2107 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,159 >> I mean, Walmart isn't here, so I guess I 2108 01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:48,880 have to ask you. 2109 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,679 >> Yes, we my landscape architect prepared 2110 01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:52,960 this plan. So, 2111 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,960 >> as you can see on here, 2112 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,320 >> there's a lot of trees along this 2113 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,600 northern half. So, we're going to have 2114 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,800 to not just plant in a straight row all 2115 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,480 of these trees every 50 ft. you're going 2116 01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:04,080 to have to pick a spot where you can get 2117 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,719 some sunlight in there. So, yes, we're committed to plant all the trees 2118 01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:10,800 that's shown on this drawing right here 2119 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,880 right now. Now, will they be in a nice 2120 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,800 straight line? We can't promise that 2121 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:15,840 just because you're going to have to 2122 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,440 pick some some areas to get some 2123 01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:19,280 sunlight for these trees. 2124 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,320 >> But [clears throat] that's in addition, 2125 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,679 what she's asking, that's in addition to 2126 01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:23,440 the tree buffer that already exists, 2127 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:25,920 >> right? Is there 110 ft everywhere? No, 2128 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,000 there's 110 ft where the residential 2129 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,120 properties are in CL. And then it kind 2130 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,880 of gets a little bit less as you move 2131 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,920 west, 2132 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,920 >> but there's still a significant tree 2133 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,239 buffer there. Just not exactly 110 feet. 2134 01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:39,520 Want to be clear on that. 2135 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:39,920 >> Sure. 2136 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,199 >> But we're still doing the buffer there 2137 01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:41,679 also. 2138 01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:43,840 >> But the 110 ft will be maintained where 2139 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:44,960 it exists today. 2140 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:45,280 >> Yes. 2141 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,960 >> The trees will be maintained. 2142 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,679 >> Yes, ma'am. 2143 01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:51,120 >> Okay. Um and then my question then is 2144 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,000 for Andy then. So, um once, and I know 2145 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,360 we've asked this before, so forgive me, 2146 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,480 but it's been a while since we've 2147 01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:58,640 revisited this. So once because we 2148 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,080 require a landscaping buffer to be 2149 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,239 planted at the time um at the time of 2150 01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:06,080 planning or site planning. Um well our 2151 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,600 requirements are in place then not the 2152 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,480 trees are going in place then. Um what 2153 01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:12,239 is how does how does the process work 2154 01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:14,719 for maintenance of that landscaping 2155 01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:16,640 buffer? Like what happens if it becomes 2156 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,320 depleted? Trees are dying off. They're 2157 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,159 being intentionally cut down. What does 2158 01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:21,760 that what does that look like 2159 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,880 >> for us? Um so before a certificate of 2160 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,920 occupancy is issued by the uh building 2161 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,840 department um planning staff would go 2162 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,480 out and you know just like a building 2163 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,159 inspector would go out to make sure that 2164 01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:35,440 you know the building is meeting 2165 01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:37,280 building codes. Planning staff would go 2166 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,840 out and do a site inspection. So we make 2167 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,840 sure their parking lot is striped. We 2168 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,840 make sure the building looks like the 2169 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,000 way it was approved. We make sure their 2170 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,480 light fixtures are in. But we also count 2171 01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:51,679 we count trees. Um, so if there's just 2172 01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:53,440 for the sake of simplicity, if there's 2173 01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:55,440 200 trees required on this site plan, 2174 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:56,400 we're going to go out there and we're 2175 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,199 going to count. 2176 01:20:57,199 --> 01:20:59,600 >> And if it's 198 trees, we're going to 2177 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,199 say, "Where's your where's tree 199? 2178 01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:04,560 Where's tree 200?" Mhm. 2179 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,880 >> Um and so as far as from a maintenance 2180 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,800 perspective, um something related to 2181 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,600 this site, um and really any commercial 2182 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,840 site, you know, if if staff were to see 2183 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,120 someone completely remove their 2184 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,800 landscape buffer. I mean, that'd be 2185 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,880 either a phone call from me or a letter 2186 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,560 from Paul Carpenter, our code compliance 2187 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,560 officer, saying, "Hey, what's going on 2188 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,719 with your landscape buffer? Um you need 2189 01:21:26,719 --> 01:21:28,239 to replace those plantings because it's 2190 01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:30,800 a code requirement." Um so if we started 2191 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,239 to see, you know, several um trees being 2192 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:37,360 removed, trees are dying off, generally 2193 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:38,960 um you know, these types of sites, 2194 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,440 there's a one to two year warranty 2195 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:42,960 period for those trees. No different 2196 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,320 than when you buy a tree at your house 2197 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,360 that you get planted. Um so typically, 2198 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,560 um I would uh think most property owners 2199 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,800 go out there and let their landscape 2200 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,600 contractor know, say, "Hey, um I've got 2201 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,280 six trees dead out here. Please get out 2202 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,679 and replace them." Uh it's not uncommon 2203 01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:01,679 for the landscape company that installed 2204 01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:03,520 the plantings to come back one year 2205 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,040 later to do a revisit to see what what 2206 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,280 needs to be warrantied and what doesn't. 2207 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,679 Um so I know that that's not uncommon 2208 01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:14,159 for commercial sites, multifamily sites, 2209 01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:15,679 things like that. 2210 01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:17,760 >> And then what happens if they don't 2211 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,080 maintain the landscaping buffer? If they 2212 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,679 don't maintain it and the trees start 2213 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:23,520 dying off, then that would become a 2214 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,120 co-mp compliance issue that we would 2215 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,480 have to work through with the property 2216 01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:26,719 owner 2217 01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:28,239 >> and enforce just like any other code 2218 01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:30,080 compliance issue. Okay. 2219 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,239 >> Um and then I have one last question. Um 2220 01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:33,840 there are several lots here. The intent 2221 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,120 for Walmart I don't I haven't seen the 2222 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,360 purchase agreement so I don't know. Um 2223 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,600 is Walmart purchasing all of these lots? 2224 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,239 >> Walmart is purchasing lots lot one and 2225 01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:43,840 then the remaining two lots my 2226 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,440 understanding would be retained by the 2227 01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:46,880 current property owner Herd Land 2228 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:47,520 Company. 2229 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,360 >> Okay. 2230 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:56,159 Um, okay. So, I mean, it's a sizable development um within our 2231 01:22:56,159 --> 01:22:57,199 community. I'm a little bit surprised 2232 01:22:57,199 --> 01:22:58,560 that we don't have a representative from 2233 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,120 Walmart here tonight. Um, 2234 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,800 a little disappointed to be completely 2235 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,400 honest with you. Um, because this is a 2236 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,400 significant development. Uh, we have 2237 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,080 obviously have a lot of questions for 2238 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,920 them. Um, it would have been really 2239 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,639 helpful to have a representative here. 2240 01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:14,480 Um, it's an important development. If it 2241 01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:15,840 were important enough to them, I thought 2242 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,280 they would have been here to answer our 2243 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,159 questions. So, I am um a little 2244 01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:21,679 disappointed that they chose not to do 2245 01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:23,840 that, especially if um in writing on 2246 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,520 black and white paper they're intending 2247 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,120 to be good community partners. I don't 2248 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,920 think this is a very good first start. 2249 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,080 And that's exactly the comment, one of 2250 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,280 the comments that I was going to make is 2251 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,480 in sitting on city council 2252 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:41,040 and thinking about this particular 2253 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,400 project, there are two questions that I 2254 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,719 had to ask myself. Number one, how is 2255 01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:48,080 this going to affect our residents? 2256 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,920 And number two, how is it going to 2257 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,159 affect our current businesses that we 2258 01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:54,960 already have and retain in Walke? And 2259 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,960 when it comes to affecting our 2260 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,600 residents, I think the probably the 2261 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,960 biggest challenge that we would have in 2262 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,960 this particular location is traffic and 2263 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,719 people getting through that 2264 01:24:08,719 --> 01:24:10,719 intersection, people getting to work in 2265 01:24:10,719 --> 01:24:13,280 the mornings, people getting home at the 2266 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,840 end of the day and the additional truck 2267 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:20,080 traffic that may be incurred because of 2268 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:28,560 um the new development. The other is in terms of people and the 2269 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,440 inconveniences that we would have. I'm 2270 01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:35,040 very concerned about noise and what 2271 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,920 type of um accommodations we can make as 2272 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,960 far as noise goes. And we can talk about 2273 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,800 the plantings and all of that and it 2274 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,719 sounds great, but there will still be 2275 01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:49,040 people who are inconvenienced by noise. 2276 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,120 And what we haven't heard from Walmart 2277 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,639 is 2278 01:24:52,639 --> 01:24:56,800 how they're going to um handle 2279 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,560 unloading trucks. Are they going to be 2280 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,239 unloading trucks in the middle of the 2281 01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:01,920 night? Are we going to be waking people 2282 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,520 up in the middle of the night or in the 2283 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:08,080 early morning hours to unload freight um 2284 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,159 from these trucks? So, that's a concern 2285 01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:11,840 that I have. The hours of loading and 2286 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,520 unloading have not been addressed at 2287 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,280 all. Um, 2288 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,040 we want Walmart to be a good neighbor. 2289 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,000 And right now, I'm not certain that I 2290 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,080 have the answers that I need. And with 2291 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:29,280 the traffic issues, the truck noise, I 2292 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,040 don't think at this point that it's a 2293 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,520 good addition for us in Walke. And I 2294 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,600 will be voting no. 2295 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,239 So, I'm going to um propose something 2296 01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:40,800 and uh and we can discuss whether the 2297 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,600 council uh would like to move on it. 2298 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,679 Platting is a separate conversation. 2299 01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:47,920 Platting is right. Dividing the land 2300 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,960 into developable components um is a 2301 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,800 separate issue from site plan. It sounds 2302 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,880 like we have some pretty uh some 2303 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,440 outstanding questions I think uh from a 2304 01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:59,600 site plan perspective that council would 2305 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,880 like to see answered potentially from a 2306 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,840 Walmart representative uh at some point. 2307 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,360 Um, so what I would recommend is that we 2308 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:14,239 uh still hold the vote tonight on uh the 2309 01:26:14,239 --> 01:26:18,560 platting of the site in terms of just uh 2310 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,639 dividing it into developable areas and 2311 01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:26,639 propose uh for consideration the uh 2312 01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:29,840 delay of the plan approval, the site 2313 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,800 plan approval until the next voting 2314 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,520 meeting. 2315 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,040 And one of the other things that I'd 2316 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:41,520 like to see is each of um 2317 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,800 the email that we got from Mr. H from 2318 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,960 Hib I and the list of things that they 2319 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,440 had concerns about. I'd like to see us 2320 01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:54,000 type something up that the council gets 2321 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,000 so that we can see exactly how each of 2322 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,480 those areas are addressed. 2323 01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:00,000 You answered most of that, Rudy, 2324 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:00,960 tonight, but if that could be 2325 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,639 >> Yeah, I'd rather have it written down so 2326 01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:06,880 I can digest it a little bit. Yeah. 2327 01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,360 >> One thing I do want to um 2328 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:12,960 Yeah, I'm I'm going to be done for the 2329 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,239 moment. Are do people comfortable with 2330 01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:18,639 that plan of approach? 2331 01:27:18,639 --> 01:27:20,000 >> Yes. 2332 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,960 >> Okay. Uh then we are going to go ahead 2333 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:28,000 and hold the vote on item H7. H7A uh 2334 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,679 which I have already read and has been 2335 01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:31,120 first and seconded although quite a 2336 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,639 while ago and I forgot who first and 2337 01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:35,280 seconded it was the motion was made by 2338 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,800 council member Grove and seconded by 2339 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:37,840 council member Lion. 2340 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,560 >> I knew you'd be on it. Um so I'm going 2341 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:45,040 to go ahead and uh have us vote on that 2342 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,719 one on I7A and I7B and then we will have 2343 01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:54,080 a motion to table on I7 on I H8. Wow, 2344 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,800 it's been a day. Okay. 2345 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:02,239 Any final comments on H7A? No. 2346 01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,320 Okay. All right. Please vote. 2347 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,600 >> Council member Grove, 2348 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:05,920 >> yes. 2349 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,040 >> Council member Lion, 2350 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,800 >> no. 2351 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,239 >> Council member Cone, 2352 01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:10,960 >> yes. 2353 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,159 >> Council member Anderson, 2354 01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:12,800 >> yes. 2355 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:13,920 >> Council member Pierce, 2356 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,040 >> yes. 2357 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,760 >> All right. Item H7B, consideration of 2358 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,040 approval of a resolution of fin 2359 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,080 approving final plat uh which makes it 2360 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,159 sound very final. However, as we know, 2361 01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:27,040 those have changed in the past. But, um, 2362 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,440 well, can I get a motion on that? 2363 01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:32,239 >> Move to approve. 2364 01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:34,239 >> Second. 2365 01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:37,760 >> Any final discussion on the platting? 2366 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,440 >> Please vote. So, just to clarify 2367 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:42,239 quickly, the platting is again just this 2368 01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:44,080 breaking up. Yes. 2369 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,440 >> It's subdividing the property into into 2370 01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,040 multiple parcels. Okay. 2371 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,280 >> So, it's not approving the site plan. 2372 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:51,679 Okay. 2373 01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:53,120 >> Thank you. 2374 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,199 Right. Please vote. 2375 01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:56,400 >> Council member Grove, 2376 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:56,800 >> yes. 2377 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,159 >> Council member Anderson, 2378 01:28:58,159 --> 01:28:58,639 >> yes. 2379 01:28:58,639 --> 01:28:59,920 >> Council member Cone, 2380 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:00,320 >> yes. 2381 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,360 >> Council member Lion, 2382 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,159 >> no. 2383 01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:03,360 >> Council member Pierce, 2384 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,440 >> yes. 2385 01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:08,480 >> All right, we have item H8, which is 2386 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:09,760 consideration of approval of a 2387 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,199 resolution approving site plan for 2388 01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:13,679 Walmart Super Center 2389 01:29:13,679 --> 01:29:15,760 09872-000 2390 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,280 at 1165 East Hickman Road. Uh, can I get 2391 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,880 a motion to table? I make a motion to 2392 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,880 table this resolution. Do I need to add 2393 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,560 to that? 2394 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,800 >> Next regular meeting is September 8th if 2395 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:31,600 that's helpful. 2396 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,400 >> Sure. 2397 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,480 >> Make a motion to table the resolution 2398 01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:35,920 till September 8th. 2399 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,920 >> Second. 2400 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,360 >> Any discussion on that? Tableing it. 2401 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,520 Okay. Please vote. 2402 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,560 >> Council member Cone. 2403 01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:44,960 >> Yes. 2404 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,080 >> Council member [snorts] Grove. 2405 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:46,480 >> Yes. 2406 01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:47,760 >> Council member Lion, 2407 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,239 >> yes. 2408 01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:49,520 >> Council member Pierce, 2409 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,120 >> yes. Council member Anderson. 2410 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,149 >> Yes. 2411 01:29:54,159 --> 01:29:56,480 » Item H9, consideration of approval of a 2412 01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:58,080 resolution approving final plat for 2413 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,040 Spring Meadows Plat 4. 2414 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,560 Can I get a motion? Move to approve. 2415 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:09,270 Second. 2416 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,159 Melissa, 2417 01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:11,360 >> can we wait for just a minute? And 2418 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:12,639 because there's a lot of commotion here 2419 01:30:12,639 --> 01:30:14,480 from people leaving, so if we can just 2420 01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:16,239 let them depart so we can concentrate on 2421 01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:18,960 our meeting, that would be great. All 2422 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,800 right. Go ahead, Melissa. 2423 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,440 >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh, the 2424 01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:25,760 owner and applicant is Walke Partnership 2425 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,679 LLC. The property is located south of 2426 01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:30,639 Hikman Road and east of 20th Street. It 2427 01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:33,360 contains a little over 10 acres in area. 2428 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,520 Um, it is outlined in pink on the screen 2429 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,760 kind of at the northwest corner of that 2430 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,080 colored area shown. Um, the property is 2431 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,000 zoned R-21 2432 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,159 and2 family residential district and R21 2433 01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:45,840 and2 family residential district with a 2434 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,239 plan development overlay. The final plat 2435 01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:50,080 includes 44 lots for single family 2436 01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,600 residential. 22 lots are zoned R2PD1 and 2437 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,400 then 22 lots are zoned R2. All lots meet 2438 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:57,600 or exceed the minimum requirements of 2439 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,159 the R2 and R2PD1 zoning districts. Uh 2440 01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:01,760 the plat includes extensions to both 2441 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,080 Locust Street and Cedar Street. 5 foot 2442 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,679 wide sidewalks will be provided along 2443 01:31:05,679 --> 01:31:06,880 both sides of both streets with 2444 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,960 individual lot development. Public 2445 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,199 utilities will be provided to each lot. 2446 01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:12,880 uh parkland dedication requirements have 2447 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,400 been met or will be met with previous 2448 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,239 and future phases of the overall Spring 2449 01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:19,199 Meadows uh development. Um the parkland 2450 01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:21,199 is in the green kind of just to the 2451 01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:23,280 souththeast of that and there's also a 2452 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,360 little section right here um that first 2453 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,560 phase of Spring um Spring Meadows. 2454 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,239 Um 2455 01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:31,679 staff recommends approval of the final 2456 01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:33,040 plat and I would be happy to answer any 2457 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,000 questions. 2458 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:38,000 >> Thank you. Are there any questions? 2459 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,040 >> Please vote. 2460 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:40,080 >> Council member Cone. 2461 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:41,520 >> Yes. Council member Anderson, 2462 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,000 >> yes. 2463 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:42,960 >> Council member Lion, 2464 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:43,520 >> yes. 2465 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,639 >> Council member Pierce, 2466 01:31:44,639 --> 01:31:45,040 >> yes. 2467 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,320 >> Council member Grove, 2468 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:47,760 >> yes. 2469 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,320 >> Item H10, consideration of approval of a 2470 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:51,679 resolution approving site plan for 2471 01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:54,800 Discount Tire at 215 West Hickman Road. 2472 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,159 Can I get a motion? 2473 01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:59,840 >> Move to approve. Second, 2474 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:00,480 Melissa. 2475 01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:03,280 >> The owner is Walke Crossing LLC. The 2476 01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,000 applicant is Holly Properties LLC. This 2477 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,360 property is located north of West 2478 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,040 Hickman Road and west of Northwest 2479 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,639 Second Street. contains a little over an 2480 01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:13,360 acre. The property is zone C1 Community 2481 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,159 and Highway Service Commercial District. 2482 01:32:16,159 --> 01:32:18,800 Uh the project includes uh the 2483 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,239 construction of a singlestory building 2484 01:32:20,239 --> 01:32:22,239 that is 7,320 2485 01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:24,960 ft in area and 24 ft in height. A trash 2486 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,400 enclosure is proposed at the northeast 2487 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,560 corner of the site. Two access points 2488 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,239 will be provided into the site from the 2489 01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:32,400 private drive along the north. Uh that 2490 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,480 private drive is accessed off of 2491 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:36,320 Northwest Second Street into the 2492 01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,159 Guadalajara site and that is a shared 2493 01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:40,639 access for the overall development. A 2494 01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:42,080 pedestrian connection will be provided 2495 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,600 into the site from the public trail 2496 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,960 along West Hickman Road. 2497 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,440 Um parking and landscaping requirements 2498 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,520 are being met. All utilities will be 2499 01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,679 provided to the site. Storm water 2500 01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:55,120 detention will be provided in the 2501 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,960 existing regional detention basin which 2502 01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,719 is located to the northwest of the site. 2503 01:32:58,719 --> 01:33:01,440 You can see it on this screen um just up 2504 01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:03,040 here. So that's the detention for the 2505 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,960 overall development. 2506 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:09,910 Uh let's go to the building elevations. 2507 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,600 So the building elevations are proposed 2508 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,360 to be constructed mostly a brick 2509 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,560 aluminum um composite panels split face 2510 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,199 CMU and storefront system. Overhead 2511 01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:21,920 doors are shown on the east elevation. 2512 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,360 Uh the trash enclosure will be 2513 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,280 constructed of the same splitface CMU to 2514 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,360 match the building. stock staff 2515 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:28,880 recommends approval of the site plan and 2516 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,600 I'd be happy to answer any questions. 2517 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:38,070 >> Thank you. Are there any questions? 2518 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,520 » Please vote. 2519 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,560 >> Council member Lion, 2520 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:40,880 >> yes. 2521 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,080 >> Council member Pierce, 2522 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:42,480 >> yes. 2523 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:43,679 >> Council member Anderson, 2524 01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:44,080 >> yes. 2525 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,360 >> Council member Grove, 2526 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:45,760 >> yes. 2527 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:46,800 >> Council member Cone, 2528 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,239 >> yes. 2529 01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:50,639 >> Item I 11, Stratford Crossing Commercial 2530 01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:54,239 Plat 3, Stratford Crossing Retail. 11 A 2531 01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:55,520 consideration of approval of a 2532 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,600 resolution approving preliminary plat 2533 01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:58,960 move to approve. 2534 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,120 >> Second 2535 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,520 >> and I'll go ahead and present on 11 A 2536 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,239 through C together. Uh the owner and 2537 01:34:06,239 --> 01:34:07,920 applicant is Sherman Hills Real Estate 2538 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,639 Partnership LLC. The property is located 2539 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:12,239 west of Northwest 10th Street and south 2540 01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:13,840 of Northwest Strapford Drive. It 2541 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,120 contains 8.86 acres. The property is 2542 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,120 zoned C1 Community and Highway Service 2543 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,040 Commercial District. The preliminary 2544 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,880 plat and final plat include one lot and 2545 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,120 one outlot. Uh lot one is at the north 2546 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,800 side of the site. Um it is 1.87 acres in 2547 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,880 area and then the rest of it is outlot X 2548 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,159 and that's 6.99 acres in area. The site 2549 01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,159 plan is for lot one. It includes the 2550 01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:37,360 construction of a singlestory 2551 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,360 multi-tenant building. The building is 2552 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,440 10,000 square feet in area and 27 feet 2553 01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:46,960 in height. Go to the next slide here. 2554 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,800 Um, a drive-through is proposed at the 2555 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,400 south side of the building. A trash 2556 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,239 enclosure is shown just to the west of 2557 01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:55,040 the building. Uh, two accesses will be 2558 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,800 provided into the site from the public 2559 01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,239 streets, one off of Northwest 10th 2560 01:34:58,239 --> 01:34:59,520 Street and one off of Northwest 2561 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,920 Stratford Drive. 5 foot wide sidewalks 2562 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,199 will be provided along the public 2563 01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:05,520 streets adjacent to the site. Pedestrian 2564 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:06,960 connections will be provided into the 2565 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,280 site from both the north and the east. 2566 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,120 Uh, parking, lighting, and landscaping 2567 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,360 requirements are being met. Public 2568 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,280 utilities are provided to the site. 2569 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,600 Utilities within the development will be 2570 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,600 privately owned and maintained. Storm 2571 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,280 water detention will be provided with a 2572 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:22,800 large pond located at the northwest 2573 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,440 corner of the overall development. 2574 01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:28,239 Uh building elevations. 2575 01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:29,760 The building elevations are proposed to 2576 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,520 be constructed mostly of brick, stone, 2577 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,159 and fiber cement. Staff recommends 2578 01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:35,600 approval of the preliminary plat, final 2579 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,120 plat, and site plan. And I'd be happy to 2580 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,440 answer any questions. 2581 01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:42,880 >> Thank you. Are there any questions? 2582 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,880 Um I may have missed it in the notes. Uh 2583 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,480 the drive-thru, I assume that's intended 2584 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:48,400 to be like for like a restaurant type 2585 01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,320 user or like a coffee shop or something 2586 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:50,719 like that. 2587 01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:52,960 >> Yeah, I'm unsure at the time what it is, 2588 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,120 but um yeah, so the drive-thru would 2589 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:56,800 start at the um west side of the 2590 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,159 building and then work its way to the 2591 01:35:58,159 --> 01:35:59,920 south side. And 2592 01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,840 >> I guess you can go out. So the access 2593 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,920 point at Northwest 10th is a ride in 2594 01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:05,600 right out. So they could go technically 2595 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:06,880 go out here if they're going south or 2596 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,800 they'd have to go back up to the north 2597 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,560 to get out. They're going to try to go 2598 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,960 north. 2599 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,440 Other 2600 01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:19,350 questions? 2601 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,520 Please vote. Council member Cone, 2602 01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:21,840 >> yes. 2603 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:22,960 >> Council member Grove, 2604 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:23,440 >> yes. 2605 01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:24,639 >> Council member Pierce, 2606 01:36:24,639 --> 01:36:25,040 >> yes. 2607 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:26,239 >> Council member Anderson, 2608 01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:26,639 >> yes. 2609 01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:27,679 >> Council member Lion, 2610 01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:28,800 >> yes. 2611 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,280 >> Item I 11B, consideration of approval of 2612 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,320 a resolution approving final plat. 2613 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,440 >> Move to approve. 2614 01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:36,560 >> Second. 2615 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:37,040 >> Melissa, 2616 01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,679 >> I have nothing further to add. Any 2617 01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:42,159 questions on the final plat? 2618 01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:44,080 >> Please vote. 2619 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,280 >> Council member Pierce, 2620 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:45,679 >> yes. 2621 01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:46,719 >> Council member Cone, 2622 01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:47,199 >> yes. 2623 01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:48,159 >> Council member Lion, 2624 01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:48,639 >> yes. 2625 01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:49,840 >> Council member Grove, 2626 01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:50,159 >> yes. 2627 01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:51,440 >> Council member Anderson, 2628 01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:53,199 >> yes. 2629 01:36:53,199 --> 01:36:55,679 >> Item I 11 C, consideration of approval 2630 01:36:55,679 --> 01:36:57,360 of a resolution approving site plan at 2631 01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,760 660 Northwest 10th Street. 2632 01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,199 >> Move to approve. 2633 01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:03,280 >> Second. 2634 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,560 >> I have nothing further to add. 2635 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,440 >> Any questions? 2636 01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:10,880 Please help. 2637 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,000 >> Council member Grove, 2638 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:12,400 >> yes. 2639 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:13,520 >> Council member Cron, 2640 01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:14,000 >> yes. 2641 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,199 >> Council member Pierce, 2642 01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:15,760 >> yes. 2643 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,040 >> Council member Anderson, 2644 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:17,360 >> yes. 2645 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:18,400 >> Council member Lion, 2646 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,320 >> yes. 2647 01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,119 >> Agenda item J. Reports. 2648 01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:25,199 >> Thank you, Mayor. Believe it or not, 2649 01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:27,679 school starts next week. Um, so I would 2650 01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:30,159 just encourage the public and uh our 2651 01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:32,880 mayor and council to be patient with us. 2652 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,639 uh as schools starts up, the first 2653 01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:36,080 couple of weeks are always a little 2654 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,639 traumatic when it comes to traffic and 2655 01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:40,719 new traffic patterns and new schools 2656 01:37:40,719 --> 01:37:43,520 where uh kids are trying to get to. So, 2657 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,000 um we will continue to monitor that, but 2658 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,000 uh just realize the next couple weeks 2659 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,920 are always a little bit hectic. I know 2660 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,119 there was a question relative to some um 2661 01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:54,400 improvements that are being done on 2662 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,800 University Avenue. Um those are 2663 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,719 associated with the school 2664 01:37:58,719 --> 01:38:00,800 administration's building and the 2665 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,560 extension of Parkview Crossing to the 2666 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,960 south. Those improvements do include the 2667 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,880 extension of the median through so that 2668 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,199 there's no um through movement between 2669 01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:11,280 Parkview Crossing and Prairie View 2670 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,159 School. Um we have been diligently 2671 01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:16,000 working with that contractor. I would 2672 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,199 say they're um a little behind. Um, but 2673 01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:20,880 the goal is to get as much of that 2674 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,080 buttoned up prior to Monday. And, um, 2675 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,080 anything that's not completed prior to 2676 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,920 Monday, there will be limited working 2677 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,159 hours to allow for traffic to get in and 2678 01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:32,639 out of those schools. So, uh, bear with 2679 01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:34,480 us. We'll do the best we can, but just 2680 01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:37,360 know we'll have some traffic jams here 2681 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,960 in the next couple weeks. 2682 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:47,119 >> No report. 2683 01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:48,800 I want to thank everybody who emailed 2684 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,000 the council. We received tons of emails 2685 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,280 this week on many different topics and 2686 01:38:55,280 --> 01:39:00,639 um though we were not able to reply to all of them. Just know that we do 2687 01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:02,960 open them, we do read them. 2688 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,639 >> I replied to every single one. 2689 01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:05,360 >> Did you really? 2690 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,840 >> I did. I didn't. There were some I 2691 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:08,159 missed. 2692 01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:10,400 >> I would say I'm very thankful. However, 2693 01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,159 there were a couple that uh 2694 01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:16,080 let's just say my mom didn't raise me to 2695 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,639 talk like that to somebody, but uh um 2696 01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:21,040 that's fine. I [clears throat] uh I did 2697 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,080 reply. Uh I appreciate staff's time and 2698 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,239 the detailed explanations for everything 2699 01:39:26,239 --> 01:39:28,480 tonight. I really do. I know you guys do 2700 01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,400 a lot of work in preparation for these 2701 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,880 meetings and a lot of work through the 2702 01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,119 entire process. It's not easy. So, thank 2703 01:39:35,119 --> 01:39:37,360 you. Um and with that, I will take a 2704 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,239 motion to adjurnn. Move to 2705 01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:40,960 >> second. 2706 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,239 [laughter] 2707 01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:43,600 >> All those in favor? I 2708 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,600 >> I 2709 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,840 >> Thank you.