[0:00] Heat.
[0:04] [music]
[0:18] Heat.
[3:37] All right, I have six o'clock. I'd like
[3:39] to welcome everyone to the Louis City
[3:41] Council meeting on Tuesday, August 18th,
[3:44] 2026.
[3:46] Um, I will call the meeting to order and
[3:48] ask for approval of the August 18th uh
[3:52] meeting agenda. I'll make that motion
[3:54] there.
[3:55] >> Second.
[3:56] >> Let's go ahead and vote.
[3:57] >> Gdon,
[3:58] >> yes.
[3:59] >> Johnston,
[4:00] >> yes.
[4:00] >> Mallister Atkins,
[4:01] >> yes.
[4:02] >> Street,
[4:02] >> yes.
[4:03] >> Aljansk,
[4:04] >> yes.
[4:05] >> Please bow your head. Moment of silent
[4:06] prayer.
[4:11] » Amen. Please stand for the pledge of
[4:13] allegiance.
[4:17] I aliance to the flag of the United
[4:20] States of America and to the republic
[4:23] for which it stands. One nation under
[4:26] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[4:29] justice for all.
[4:35] » Roll call.
[4:36] >> Gdone,
[4:37] >> I am here.
[4:38] >> Johnston,
[4:39] >> present.
[4:40] >> Mallister Atkins
[4:41] >> here.
[4:42] >> Street
[4:43] >> here.
[4:43] >> El Janzik
[4:44] >> here.
[4:46] Okay, we have a certificate of an open
[4:48] meeting and um I'll ask for approval of
[4:51] the minutes from the July 20th, 2026
[4:54] council meeting.
[4:55] >> So moved.
[4:57] >> Jinx.
[5:03] » Good job. You and Guy did it together.
[5:05] >> Joanie got it. All right. Do we have a
[5:07] second?
[5:08] >> Second.
[5:09] >> All right.
[5:11] >> Let's go ahead and vote.
[5:12] >> Gdone.
[5:13] >> Yes. Johnston,
[5:15] >> yes.
[5:15] >> Mallister Atkins,
[5:16] >> yes.
[5:17] >> Street,
[5:17] >> yes.
[5:18] >> Aljansk,
[5:19] >> yes.
[5:20] >> Okay. Presented in front of you is the
[5:22] mayor's court report of receipts and
[5:23] disimbursements for the month ending
[5:25] July 31, 2026. I'd ask [snorts] that you
[5:28] accept those as presented. And that
[5:31] brings us to the financial report. Mr.
[5:34] Matt, floor is yours.
[5:37] >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh for the finance
[5:38] report for the month of July, uh income
[5:42] taxes were actually down 1.2% from this
[5:45] time last year. Uh we're seeing a a
[5:47] pretty drastic reduction in the
[5:49] corporate net profit bucket of the
[5:51] income taxes, which we think may kind of
[5:53] be a new normal at this point. uh if all
[5:56] else remains equal. Um [clears throat]
[6:00] uh which which and if that that being
[6:02] the case, if that is true, it could be a
[6:04] loss of somewhere around $200,000 a year
[6:07] in income tax revenue, which will of
[6:08] course have to be made up in in budget
[6:11] in the budget process, which we are
[6:12] currently going through. Uh the general
[6:15] fund balance is down uh from last month
[6:18] in light of the additional transfers we
[6:20] did to the capital fund for city hall
[6:22] that were approved by council.
[6:25] Uh the expenditure budget benchmark is
[6:27] 58% for the month of July. Uh all funds
[6:30] are at 52%. The the general fund is at
[6:33] 55%
[6:35] when excluding transfers out. Star Ohio
[6:39] interest rate was 3.83%.
[6:42] And then I would like to draw special
[6:44] attention to the brand new seventh page
[6:47] of the finance report. Uh this is and
[6:51] I'm going to be going over the audit
[6:53] results here in a moment, but this is a
[6:54] direct result of one of those uh
[6:56] management letter comments. Uh they
[6:59] would like to see and they are
[7:01] technically correct uh that the then
[7:04] purchase orders over $3,000 be
[7:06] specifically approved by council. So for
[7:09] the month of July, these were the uh
[7:11] purchase orders. Uh just as a quick
[7:13] refresher, a then and now purchase order
[7:15] is a purchase order where the uh
[7:17] purchase order date is after the date.
[7:21] So those are listed there. Happy to
[7:24] answer any additional questions on that.
[7:26] I I am going to talk a little bit here
[7:28] now about the audit results. Are there
[7:29] any questions on the finance report
[7:31] before I jump into that?
[7:33] >> Can you just expand? I mean some then
[7:36] are like when there's an emergency it's
[7:38] inevitable. Is that correct?
[7:40] >> Oh absolutely. the the reason that they
[7:42] have their own name, which is then and
[7:43] now, and that they're um you know,
[7:46] discussed in the law, is that they have
[7:48] a good use and purpose um in in regular
[7:52] activities and things like emergencies
[7:54] or other things. Uh other things can can
[7:57] certainly crop up um and that's what
[8:00] results in a lot of those. But because
[8:02] uh historically we hadn't been
[8:04] specifically approving them here, I do
[8:06] think there's a little bit of an element
[8:08] that the they were kind of being done
[8:11] out of order at a at a rate that maybe
[8:13] is a little more than we would have
[8:14] liked. Uh which the auditors caught on
[8:16] to too. So we're going to take special
[8:17] care to make sure that those are being
[8:19] done in the right order going forward.
[8:20] We've always been in in you know
[8:22] budgetary compliance and things like
[8:24] that. But just keeping these things
[8:27] straight for for the sake of the audit
[8:30] and best practices.
[8:31] >> Okay.
[8:32] >> Can you It looks like one of them the
[8:35] payment was made before the actual
[8:36] purchase order was made. Is that typical
[8:40] because it looks like the other ones the
[8:41] payment is always after at least
[8:43] [snorts] the purchase order.
[8:44] >> That one must be a special case because
[8:47] theoretically we can't
[8:49] >> Yeah. or something in the system perhaps
[8:51] because we we can't even push through a
[8:53] payment without there being a purchase
[8:55] order in place. So that might be a thing
[8:57] where the the payment uh was originally
[9:01] initiated on a certain day and saved as
[9:03] a draft and finished up later and it
[9:05] took on the original date. It's
[9:07] possible, but it the system does not let
[9:09] us uh actually post large payments
[9:11] without a purchase order being in place.
[9:13] So strictly speaking, that's not
[9:16] possible. So I'd have to look into that
[9:18] one specifically and why it's stated the
[9:20] way it's stated.
[9:20] >> Sounds good.
[9:21] >> Okay.
[9:25] » Good. Good there.
[9:26] >> Yep.
[9:26] >> All right. Uh we'll hop over to the
[9:28] audit results. As I said, uh there was
[9:31] one uh audit finding uh which related to
[9:34] the posting of estimated resources to
[9:36] the ERP system. Uh while it should be
[9:40] noted that we were in full legal
[9:41] compliance with budgetary law the entire
[9:43] time, there's uh no issues on that
[9:46] front. Uh we're just going to take extra
[9:49] to make sure that the system reflects
[9:50] what is certified by council and the
[9:52] county uh and everything was fully above
[9:55] board in in that in that case. There
[9:58] were also three management letter
[10:00] comments. Management letter comments are
[10:01] much uh smaller uh things that auditors
[10:04] kind of find as they're going through
[10:06] and they suggest to clean up best
[10:08] practices and things like that. Uh one
[10:10] of them is the then and now purchase
[10:11] orders that we just went over. So I
[10:13] won't belabor that too much. Uh second
[10:16] is uh an issue with uh on behalf
[10:19] payments. Uh quick you know explanation
[10:22] an on behalf payment happens when a
[10:25] generally a grantor or a lessor pays a
[10:28] vendor directly. Uh these are largely uh
[10:31] larger projects
[10:34] essay
[10:37] the contractor directly for the work
[10:39] they did and the money never passes
[10:41] through the city. uh because of that a
[10:44] lot of entities and I have seen it a lot
[10:46] in my career will just not post those
[10:48] because there's no money changing
[10:50] physical hands and they bring it on as
[10:52] part of the year end work to do the
[10:56] audit report. They bring that activity
[10:58] on. Uh it's done a lot. This group of
[11:00] auditors doesn't like it. They want to
[11:02] see it be posted simple enough to fix.
[11:05] We're just going to start posting it.
[11:07] that they'll get posted as an equivalent
[11:09] revenue and expense so that it doesn't
[11:11] affect the the balances of the books at
[11:13] all.
[11:14] >> So, we'll start doing that. And then the
[11:17] third thing uh was an unfortunate
[11:20] scheduling issue. Uh the records
[11:22] commission uh is required to meet twice
[11:24] per year. In 2025, our December meeting
[11:27] ran into some scheduling issues and got
[11:29] pushed into, I think, early to mid
[11:31] January. They took issue with it. They
[11:33] pointed it out. We're just going to make
[11:35] sure we do too this year. and the one
[11:37] that got pushed into January then is one
[11:39] for this year. So, kind of corrects
[11:41] itself a little bit. So, we're just
[11:43] gonna make sure that uh that that gets
[11:44] done, but uh nothing too major there.
[11:47] And that's uh that's what was found. Any
[11:51] questions? Happy to answer them.
[11:53] >> So, for the record, they only met once
[11:57] in 2025,
[11:59] >> right? And and they're required to meet
[12:01] twice and that's what was
[12:02] >> Okay. [snorts]
[12:05] And this was In your former career, this
[12:07] is what you did, correct?
[12:09] >> Um, in a fashion. Yeah, I was I was more
[12:12] on the consulting side of the auditor's
[12:14] office, but I [clears throat] worked
[12:15] very closely with the auditors doing
[12:17] this work. Yeah.
[12:18] >> Very good. And
[12:21] what these kind of these kind of letters
[12:23] typical for a city or a municipality?
[12:27] >> Yeah. Especially uh this is our first
[12:28] year with this audit group. um the this
[12:32] the state [cough and clears throat] the
[12:33] state is of course required to audit all
[12:35] these entities every year. They don't
[12:36] have the manpower to do that. So they
[12:38] are by law allowed to farm these um
[12:41] these out [snorts] and so the the state
[12:43] will take you back for a while just to
[12:44] keep things fresh, make sure new eyes
[12:46] are getting on the audit. This year they
[12:48] farmed this out. Uh, again, this is our
[12:50] first time with these auditors, and that
[12:52] will typically come with um them picking
[12:55] up on things that maybe they're more
[12:57] concerned about than another audit group
[12:59] or the previous auditors have looked at
[13:02] your stuff so many times that they don't
[13:04] notice anymore. And that's the purpose
[13:06] of getting the fresh eyes. So, but yeah,
[13:08] it's pretty it's I I've never seen an
[13:11] audit report that didn't have management
[13:13] letter comments. There's always
[13:14] something you can improve on, uh, which
[13:16] is perfectly fine. Sure.
[13:19] All right. Good.
[13:20] >> Any other questions for Matt?
[13:22] >> No.
[13:23] >> Okay. I'll entertain a motion uh to
[13:25] approve the July 2026 monthly finance
[13:28] report.
[13:29] >> I'll make a motion to approve the uh
[13:31] July 31st, 2026 financial report.
[13:36] >> I'll second.
[13:37] >> Okay, let's go ahead and vote.
[13:39] >> Gdone,
[13:40] >> yes.
[13:41] >> Johnston,
[13:42] >> yes.
[13:42] >> Mallister Atkins,
[13:43] >> yes.
[13:44] >> Street,
[13:45] >> yes.
[13:45] >> Alans,
[13:46] >> yes.
[13:48] Okay, next up is resolution number 26-48
[13:52] >> being a resolution approving the 2027
[13:54] alternative tax budget document for the
[13:57] city of Lewisville.
[13:59] >> I'll make the motion we bring resolution
[14:01] number 2648 to the table for discussion.
[14:05] >> A second.
[14:09] » All right, mayor. So, the approval of
[14:10] the alternative tax budget is just a
[14:13] signaling to the county auditor office
[14:15] that there is a need for the property
[14:19] taxes that they collect on our behalf.
[14:21] It's an annual um an annual resolution.
[14:30] » Is this it? Just this inside millillage
[14:31] is that all it's
[14:33] >> that's what we get from the
[14:35] >> auditor's collections. Correct. Yes.
[14:37] >> Okay. All
[14:40] right. Same as what we've done in past
[14:42] years.
[14:43] >> Every year.
[14:43] >> Okay.
[14:45] >> Very good.
[14:50] » Good. Good to vote.
[14:52] >> Good to vote.
[14:52] >> All right. Let's do it.
[14:54] >> Gdone,
[14:55] >> yes.
[14:55] >> Johnston,
[14:56] >> yes.
[14:57] >> Mallister Atkins,
[14:58] >> yes.
[14:58] >> Street,
[14:59] >> yes.
[14:59] >> Aljansk,
[15:00] >> yes.
[15:01] >> Okay. Next up is ordinance number 26-49.
[15:05] being an ordinance accepting the final
[15:06] plot for a fire at Orchard Park number
[15:09] 2B located within the corporate limits
[15:12] of the city of Lewisville, Ohio.
[15:14] >> I'll make a motion that we bring
[15:15] ordinance number 2649 to the table for
[15:18] its first reading. Second.
[15:21] >> All right, mayor. So, as uh Tiffany
[15:22] said, this is the um first reading of
[15:25] the accepting of the final plot. This
[15:27] the area that we're talking about is the
[15:29] northeast portion of that residential
[15:32] development. Uh this is just the first
[15:34] reading, but if you have any questions,
[15:35] uh Mr. Juliani from the the developer is
[15:39] here to answer them along with Dave.
[15:46] » I know we we've talked about this a lot.
[15:48] Anything else you'd like to share?
[15:50] >> Not at this time, Mayor. Pretty much
[15:52] self-explanatory.
[15:54] >> Y
[15:55] >> anything else you want to share, Mr.
[15:56] Giuliani?
[15:57] >> Uh no, it's the next step. It's going to
[16:01] be 41.
[16:04] single family lots. They're making great
[16:06] progress. I just got out there today
[16:11] and it should be ready soon.
[16:14] It's already signed the contract with
[16:16] the city. So, they'll be posting a bond
[16:18] here soon. Um, get ready for the second
[16:21] reading and hope we'll get everything
[16:22] filed right after that because jumping
[16:26] into get lots. Um,
[16:29] and I'm kind of pumped after seeing
[16:31] that. repository article St. Louisville
[16:34] is like a hot area in the county,
[16:36] >> right?
[16:38] >> Which is great news for us, for you, for
[16:40] me.
[16:42] >> So, that's the next step. And then
[16:44] probably in a few months, we'll be back
[16:46] with phase three, which will be 35
[16:49] single family lots that are replacing
[16:51] what was first planned to be 47 town
[16:54] homes because town homes were not like
[16:57] that hot and the single families are
[17:00] basically flying off the shelf once they
[17:02] get hot.
[17:03] So that's the plan.
[17:05] >> Great.
[17:06] >> Yeah. Sounds great.
[17:06] >> Thank you for having me here tonight.
[17:08] Excited to be here. I think it's a great
[17:09] opportunity for all of us.
[17:11] >> Yeah, it is. And we certainly need
[17:12] housing.
[17:13] >> There's no doubt about that.
[17:15] >> No doubt.
[17:15] >> Yeah.
[17:16] >> And the price point or coming in with is
[17:19] just amazing,
[17:20] >> right? Which is great. It's a good fit,
[17:21] I think, for our community.
[17:22] >> It is. And you know, and to your point
[17:25] with um
[17:27] our 44641 being so hot in Stark County
[17:30] right now with the hits that they're
[17:31] getting on the realtor sites, this is
[17:34] great timing.
[17:35] >> Yeah, it is. And hopefully we can take
[17:37] advantage of it. So, I'm hoping that it
[17:40] keeps going, it stays this phase three
[17:43] as soon as possible. I'm talking
[17:47] other land up here.
[17:50] This has been it's been great dealing
[17:52] with the city, [snorts]
[17:54] great dealing with Dave and all the
[17:55] people that work here.
[17:57] >> Great to hear.
[17:58] >> Really happy.
[18:00] >> Sounds great.
[18:01] >> Good to hear it.
[18:02] >> I I I was thinking back to when we had a
[18:05] couple different presentations on
[18:06] basically the jobs follow the housing
[18:08] >> and we we all want good paying jobs to
[18:12] continue to come come to our area and
[18:14] that that requires the housing to be
[18:17] there in the in the single family homes,
[18:18] those good neighborhoods. That's those
[18:20] are the kind of additions we want to
[18:21] add. So, thank you. Thank you for coming
[18:24] and we're looking forward to uh more
[18:26] homes in the near future.
[18:27] >> Well, thank you for having me. I
[18:28] appreciate it.
[18:29] >> Okay, let's go ahead and vote.
[18:31] >> Before we vote,
[18:31] >> one more. Dave, do you know what this
[18:33] takes us up to? Account of homes in that
[18:35] Orchard Park.
[18:36] >> Oh, I do.
[18:37] >> Yeah. Okay. Very good.
[18:40] >> This this 41
[18:42] >> Yeah.
[18:43] >> will take us up to
[18:46] >> Let's see. will be 35 short of 199. So
[18:49] it'll take us up to 164.
[18:52] >> Okay. And then the next phase will get
[18:54] you to the 199. Is that correct?
[18:56] >> Okay. That's awesome.
[18:58] >> Okay. Fantastic.
[18:59] >> Fantastic.
[19:00] >> Yeah.
[19:01] >> All right. Now we can vote. [snorts]
[19:05] » Yes.
[19:06] >> Johnston,
[19:07] >> yes.
[19:07] >> Mallister Atkins,
[19:09] >> yes.
[19:09] >> Street,
[19:10] >> yes.
[19:10] >> Al Janser,
[19:11] >> yes.
[19:13] Okay, that brings us to our public
[19:17] speaks portion. Is there anyone here to
[19:20] speak on uh
[19:22] >> anything?
[19:25] Would you like to share anything?
[19:28] >> Hey, you got three minutes.
[19:31] >> Come on down.
[19:33] >> That's not I was gonna say that's not 30
[19:35] minutes. That's three minutes.
[19:37] [laughter]
[19:38] >> So, um my name is Joseph Globear. Um my
[19:41] first council meeting was yesterday but
[19:44] um I was uh introducing a concept of uh
[19:46] painting patriotic fire hydrants
[19:48] throughout Louisville. Uh there's about
[19:50] 650 to 700. I had some discussions with
[19:52] some of the individuals here. Um and uh
[19:56] a couple reasons. One is they did it for
[19:58] the bsentennial. I wanted to do it to
[20:00] 250th. Um I thought uh national and more
[20:03] important civic pride constitution town
[20:05] and um also an update of our of our um
[20:09] fire hydrants. Um, we have a sharp
[20:12] looking fire chief, a sharp looking fire
[20:14] station engine, but some of the some of
[20:16] the um some of the fire um hydrants are
[20:20] pretty bad. [snorts] Um so, um that's
[20:24] that was the the crux of it. Um, but
[20:27] then for my last meeting, I did some
[20:29] homework and one of the things, uh, you
[20:31] guys were talking about having more
[20:33] people move in here, businesses move in
[20:36] here and stuff like that. But [snorts]
[20:38] it would be fantastic if, um,
[20:41] individuals saw that little detail of
[20:42] the fire hydrant, which is sharp, small
[20:44] detail. They say, "Well, look, these
[20:46] guys are paying attention to small
[20:47] details and the safety of our
[20:49] community." So, you know, that might
[20:50] draw more people in, too. I think it was
[20:52] your question. What little things can we
[20:54] do to as this gentleman was talking last
[20:57] meeting in regards to you know what we
[20:59] can do about you know
[21:02] bringing people in. Uh the other thing,
[21:06] this is another wild one, but um is um
[21:09] and this is some homework, but um
[21:13] the PPR, are you familiar with that?
[21:16] Public protection um uh if you have a
[21:20] good rating of a fire hydrant, a fire
[21:23] station and community, it lowers your um
[21:27] home insuranceances. So, it's another
[21:30] perk.
[21:31] >> Believe that's for us.
[21:33] >> I'm sorry. church service organization.
[21:35] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. But it's directly related
[21:37] to a lot of different things.
[21:39] >> The hydrants is part of that. Yes.
[21:40] >> Yes.
[21:41] >> So, um I'll take any questions. Oh, I
[21:44] should tell you um I was asked to do one
[21:47] downtown, but I didn't I do it did it in
[21:48] the field. So, um a a fire hydrant and
[21:52] it's on um
[21:56] » Thank you. Marriott and Yod. So, if you
[21:59] want to take a look at it, I didn't do
[22:00] it downtown. Any questions? I'll be more
[22:02] than happy to take
[22:04] How many are there?
[22:05] >> There's somewhere between 650 to 700
[22:08] depending if you're talking private and
[22:10] public.
[22:12] >> The ones at the school. Would you leave
[22:14] them as they are?
[22:16] >> They look like little smurfs. They're
[22:17] light blue and white.
[22:18] >> Yeah. Well, I was told today that those
[22:20] are public private private school.
[22:22] >> Are they really?
[22:23] >> Yeah.
[22:23] >> Okay. [clears throat] We will go out and
[22:25] test those. But any service that's all
[22:27] done by the school, those are private
[22:29] hydr private hydrants.
[22:30] >> Okay.
[22:31] >> Yeah. I didn't know you could have a
[22:33] private one.
[22:34] >> Okay.
[22:36] >> Hey, I appreciate it. I had the chance
[22:37] to talk to Mr. Globe Carr a couple uh Saturdays ago in in the yard
[22:43] and it's it's a fantastic project. You
[22:45] and I know you've probably seen his
[22:49] stuff, what he's done from Rotary. But I
[22:52] mean the fire hydrants once you
[22:54] mentioned them, it's kind of like once
[22:55] those things you start seeing. I've been
[22:57] driving around now. I'm like looking at
[22:58] the fire hydrants. I'm like, "Oh my
[23:00] gosh." like I didn't I didn't even see
[23:02] them a lot of them before and it's
[23:06] >> it's something a community kind of
[23:08] ignores and if I looked at all of them
[23:10] I' I've looked at personally seen at
[23:12] least 400 of them 450 of them
[23:14] >> and I will tell you about 20% look
[23:17] pretty decent
[23:18] >> which tells you the other 80% probably
[23:21] a little
[23:24] » Yep. So, I I'm I'm fully behind the
[23:27] prime. I mean, I the one that you
[23:29] painted looks fantastic. I walked down
[23:31] and and saw that. And on top of the
[23:33] painting, the just the cleaning them and
[23:35] making making sure that, you know,
[23:37] they're functional and ready to go and
[23:38] not have old chipped, you know, paint
[23:41] would be a benefit as well.
[23:43] >> Now, I have to tell you, there's a lot
[23:45] of concerns that have been, you know,
[23:47] you can't have just slopping paint on
[23:49] there. you got to and there's a lot of
[23:51] like I said legitimate concerns [cough]
[23:54] from the dredge to the to the the valve
[23:57] cap on the top and stuff like [snorts]
[23:58] that. So
[23:59] >> use a lot.
[24:03] >> Yep. So however we can responsibly move
[24:05] forward and addressing those those
[24:08] concerns especially I I had mentioned to
[24:12] um Andy like I think it would look great
[24:15] even if we started in 44 and 153 kind of
[24:19] high traffic
[24:20] >> areas and then we already have the
[24:22] divisions broken up for how we do the
[24:24] sidewalk program. Would it make sense to
[24:26] attack it by section that way?
[24:30] >> Um but I yeah I was excited.
[24:33] >> So that was actually on my list under
[24:34] new business. Um I presume then that
[24:37] council is okay with granting the
[24:39] permission to start the project and we
[24:42] have just probably a few more details to
[24:44] work out but we'll we'll get it we'll
[24:45] get it going or Mr. Wilbachar will get
[24:47] it going.
[24:48] >> [laughter]
[24:49] >> I have anticipated talking just so you
[24:51] know.
[24:53] >> I mean I have no problem talking
[24:56] excited about the the project.
[24:57] >> The one that you did there in our
[24:58] neighborhood is that it's probably over
[24:59] [cough] by the water tower. Is it close?
[25:01] Okay. Is is that what we can expect or
[25:04] is there a few different um designs?
[25:07] >> Well, so this is in the details, you
[25:09] know. Um, initially I thought, oh,
[25:12] everybody, you know, we get a good
[25:14] community project going so on and so
[25:15] forth, you know, and you you put your
[25:17] stars on it, you know, and stuff like
[25:19] that and decorated patriotic, but one
[25:23] 700, you know, and all those fine
[25:24] details could be a little tricky. Okay.
[25:27] Two, um,
[25:29] there's, like I said, there's painting
[25:31] restrictions, so not anybody can just
[25:33] slap stuff on. And the paint's
[25:36] important, but the preparation's equally
[25:38] as important. Um, so to answer your
[25:42] question, perhaps coming in and coming
[25:46] into Lewisville and the main arteries
[25:49] would be um where you'd want to put a
[25:52] lot of, you know, good energy.
[25:54] >> And I've thought about this through
[25:55] there's five different uh
[25:57] >> districts, [clears throat] okay? And you
[26:00] do the districts, right? And I don't
[26:02] know if it's community thing, you know,
[26:04] depending on how we go, okay? But you
[26:07] take the the top five in each district,
[26:09] top 10, and let them do the main
[26:11] arteries, you know, and make them look
[26:12] good, you know, and and it's
[26:15] Constitution Town, and this is something
[26:17] that'll last
[26:19] on average at this particular point.
[26:23] Again, if you just throw paint on it,
[26:25] you know, it'll be ready the next year.
[26:26] It'll be chip and but it could be good
[26:28] fy year, you know.
[26:30] >> Sure.
[26:33] » Any other questions? Rod, is this
[26:36] something you guys would have to do?
[26:38] >> What? Paint?
[26:39] >> Yeah. If if he if he if he didn't do it
[26:42] for that
[26:42] >> that's a service. So you guys would be
[26:44] you guys would have to do this if it was
[26:46] if Joe wasn't taking this project on.
[26:49] >> Well,
[26:50] >> that's I was going to say I remember
[26:51] growing up I mean I'm the one here, but
[26:54] growing up the the service department
[26:56] did come around and we would, you know,
[26:58] gather around and watch them paint. It
[26:59] [laughter] was something cool back then.
[27:02] >> You'd watch paint dry.
[27:03] >> Yes. side
[27:05] >> for fun.
[27:05] >> That was because we didn't have cell
[27:07] phones or anything. We ride our bikes
[27:08] and go over there painting the
[27:11] >> We thought that was really neat.
[27:13] >> The other part of this is and I like I
[27:16] said, there's some beautiful
[27:17] neighborhoods. It'll kind of give
[27:19] community pride too, you know,
[27:21] >> and and some of these are blending into
[27:22] the background and you don't want that,
[27:25] >> okay? You want them to stand out,
[27:27] >> okay? Um for many reasons, but that's
[27:30] important. As as of right now, I've not
[27:32] heard anything that's committing city
[27:34] workers to doing the painting.
[27:36] >> Well, I just wondered if he wasn't doing
[27:37] it, would that be your responsibility?
[27:40] And how often do you guys have to do
[27:42] that?
[27:42] >> Hasn't been done.
[27:46] » Okay.
[27:46] >> Perfectly fine. Fire department wants to
[27:48] jump on it and do it, too. [laughter]
[27:51] >> I didn't want to commit anybody to
[27:52] anything. That wasn't
[27:53] >> We can't hold a paper.
[27:54] >> Can't hold.
[27:55] >> One one of the things Mr. Wilar
[27:57] mentioned that I think he had 50
[27:59] volunteers at the point when we had
[28:00] talked that had signed up that were
[28:02] willing
[28:03] >> um to help.
[28:05] >> No,
[28:05] >> that's not true. I'm sorry.
[28:07] >> It was an idea. Talking to my friends, I
[28:11] said, "Do you think it would be a good
[28:12] idea?" I said, "I'm not asking you to
[28:15] paint. I'm not asking you for a
[28:16] donation."
[28:18] >> So I So
[28:19] >> he's standing behind what he
[28:21] >> So I thought you said, "No, no, no.
[28:23] We're not willing to help."
[28:24] >> No, no. I would put my [laughter]
[28:29] >> Okay, so we we'll cross that bridge.
[28:31] >> Yeah.
[28:31] >> Okay, sounds good.
[28:33] >> Definitely wouldn't neglect the
[28:35] maintenance of the parks and the roads
[28:36] to paint fire.
[28:38] >> See what we can do.
[28:40] >> Okay. All right. Um let's move on to
[28:45] um new business. Um, and looks like we
[28:50] have here a recommendation for the
[28:51] construction manager at risk for the
[28:54] city hall construction project from the
[28:56] CMR evaluation committee.
[29:00] >> Yes. So, I guess for the benefit of the
[29:02] council members [clears throat] work
[29:03] here when we went through this process
[29:05] for the fire station, uh, there's two
[29:07] primary ways you can do a project like
[29:09] this. One is to have it designed,
[29:12] engineered, and then you go out to bid
[29:14] where interested people will submit a
[29:17] bid. You pick the lowest and best bid.
[29:19] Another way, which is more recently
[29:22] allowable in the state of Ohio, is the
[29:24] construction manager at risk process
[29:26] where you bring a company on board early
[29:29] on to work with the architects and the
[29:32] engineers primarily in the interest of
[29:36] uh reducing cost. they're more familiar
[29:38] with the market availability of supplies
[29:40] and materials and can incorporate those
[29:43] uh variables into the into the design
[29:46] and the engineering of the building. Uh
[29:48] we did the Seymour process with this
[29:50] building. It worked out really well. Uh
[29:52] so we decided to do it again with the
[29:54] city hall building. Uh it's all spelled
[29:58] out in many many many places in the high
[30:00] revised code. There's all different
[30:02] types of rules and procedures and
[30:04] processes that you have to follow. But
[30:07] the short of it is we uh had to develop
[30:09] an evaluation committee which we did.
[30:12] All of the firms that responded to the
[30:14] request for qualifications were
[30:16] evaluated. We shortlisted three of them
[30:19] meaning we picked the top three. Those
[30:21] three firms then were issued what's
[30:24] called a request for proposal where they
[30:26] provide both pricing and technical
[30:28] information
[30:30] and then we evaluate those responses and
[30:33] we have to subscribe points to different
[30:35] uh categories that they're required to
[30:38] cover. We went through that entire
[30:40] process. Uh the top three firms that
[30:43] were shortlisted were Hley Construction
[30:45] who built this building beaver
[30:47] constructors and capital building. And
[30:50] after going through the entire process,
[30:52] Beaver Constructors is who came out from
[30:55] a point perspective on top and
[30:57] determined to be the best value for the
[30:59] city for the city hall project. Um after
[31:03] you identify that uh best value firm,
[31:08] there are a few things you have to
[31:12] uh check on in essence before
[31:15] uh the legislative body which of course
[31:17] is you can accept the recommendation of
[31:19] the committee. So I'm just going to run
[31:21] down that list real quick here. Uh and
[31:23] this is specific to the Beaver
[31:26] Constructor Company. They have no
[31:27] unresolved findings for recovery issued
[31:30] by the state auditor. They are not
[31:32] debarred under OC 15302. They have not
[31:35] been found by a court to be in default
[31:37] of a judgment or breach of a settlement
[31:39] agreement. They have not violated
[31:41] revised code 3517102
[31:44] by exceeding campaign contribution
[31:46] limits.
[31:47] There have been no clerical errors found
[31:50] in the process that would change who the
[31:53] recommendation is. uh there are no
[31:56] conflicts of interest known between the
[31:58] voting members of the committee and any
[32:00] of the top three firms and uh they are
[32:05] enrolled in and are in good standing
[32:07] with a drug-free workplace program. So
[32:11] having said all that our recommendation
[32:13] to council for who will serve as a
[32:17] construction manager at risk for the
[32:18] city hall project would be be
[32:20] constructors. Assuming that you accept
[32:23] that recommendation,
[32:25] we would then work to come to an
[32:27] agreement on a contract with them, which
[32:29] you would see the first reading of at
[32:32] the first meeting in September. If for
[32:34] some reason, and I think it would be
[32:36] very unlikely, that we are not able to
[32:38] come to an agreement with the contract
[32:41] or on a contract with them, we would
[32:42] then close negotiations and move to the
[32:46] next on the list.
[32:48] So, that's where we're at.
[32:51] Guy, I know you were part of this
[32:53] process.
[32:55] >> Yeah. Um,
[32:56] >> what would you like to share?
[32:59] >> I thought Andy did a phenomenal job of
[33:01] putting this together. It was a ton of
[33:02] work for him. Um, we had a really good
[33:05] day um interviewing all three of these
[33:10] construction companies. We had Daryl on
[33:12] site and Corey Smith who did a great job
[33:14] of asking questions to all three of them
[33:18] from a construction perspective, from a
[33:20] preconstruct uh construction
[33:22] perspective. They did a phenomenal job
[33:24] with that. We had the architects here
[33:27] who also were non- voting members, but
[33:30] they
[33:32] really assisted us with a lot of the
[33:34] questions. And Andy had it set up pretty
[33:37] good, too, where we had some time in
[33:38] between each one of these where we could
[33:41] discuss not only the prior construction
[33:44] company, but the one to come. So, after
[33:47] we went through a lot of the uh a lot of
[33:49] their proposal,
[33:52] we could kind of, I guess, prompt our
[33:55] architects on what questions that we
[33:58] wanted them to ask from an architect
[34:00] perspective and how to frame those
[34:02] questions. And so we had enough time to
[34:04] do all of that. It just really went
[34:06] smooth. Um Andy kept us on task the
[34:09] whole way through and it it was a great
[34:13] process. I know it's a lot of work, but
[34:16] I I think it's it's it's a lot better
[34:19] for government and it's a lot better for
[34:22] our city to go through what we went
[34:24] through and a long day and a long
[34:28] process to get through all of this. But
[34:30] I've been involved with stuff like this
[34:32] before where you have to take the lowest
[34:34] bid. And I I think, you know, the city,
[34:38] the residents, the taxpayers, the city
[34:40] as a whole is better off for what we had
[34:43] to go through and what we're going
[34:45] through um using this process. So, I
[34:48] appreciate what you guys did
[34:51] uh to get us to this point. As I said, I
[34:54] think everybody would agree that this method of uh acquiring these
[35:00] projects
[35:01] worked really well with the fire
[35:03] department. And I and I agree the the
[35:06] concept of going out to bid with the
[35:10] engineering documents, you know, the bid
[35:12] documents for a project of of this size
[35:15] or the size of city hall. Um
[35:19] I think it leaves a lot to be desired.
[35:21] I'm much more comfortable with this
[35:22] process when it comes time to build.
[35:24] the
[35:26] builders, the architects, the engineers
[35:27] are all on the same page because they
[35:29] came up with it together and there's
[35:32] really, I think, a lot less room for
[35:34] error.
[35:35] >> Dave, I'm sorry. I think I left you out
[35:36] of that, but I appreciate what you did,
[35:38] too.
[35:39] >> Thanks. [laughter]
[35:41] >> Now, Beaver Beaver's local, correct?
[35:45] >> Beaver, their headquarters, I believe,
[35:46] are in Perry Township.
[35:51] They're they're from the area. Yes.
[35:53] >> About 30.
[35:54] >> Yeah.
[35:56] >> So there's there's Beaver Escavating
[35:59] which has been around for I think 75
[36:01] plus years and then Beaver Constructors
[36:04] which is a separate company owned by the
[36:06] same people that have been around I
[36:08] think over 15 years. And they they did
[36:12] they have the contract for the at
[36:14] Massland for the some of the additions
[36:16] they done over at the school?
[36:18] >> Yes.
[36:18] >> Like for the football? Uh
[36:20] >> yeah, they were working on it.
[36:21] >> Football facility. It's covering every
[36:23] inch of grass over there.
[36:24] >> Yeah, they're they've got that they're
[36:27] the Key Bank Center at the Hall of Fame.
[36:30] >> The library too, I think.
[36:31] >> Library and fire station
[36:35] >> and
[36:35] >> those projects will be complete.
[36:37] completions of those projects
[36:38] corresponds with what we would be
[36:40] starting
[36:41] >> and and obviously we would pick the
[36:43] best, you know, value for our taxpayer
[36:46] money, but it's a I think it's an added
[36:48] bonus when they have local employees.
[36:51] You know, it helps the local economy,
[36:52] you know, Stark County at large.
[36:54] >> Absolutely.
[36:56] >> And I think they felt very strongly
[36:57] about this project being a local
[36:59] project. They specified that they really
[37:01] wanted this project and I I I anticipate
[37:04] they'll do a good job. they were
[37:06] extremely competitive on the on the
[37:08] pricing portion. And when we when we
[37:10] talk about the pricing versus the
[37:11] technical, the pricing isn't
[37:15] what we would all know as the the
[37:18] guarantee maximum price. Uh it's the the
[37:21] fees that are associated with their work
[37:23] on the project. We don't have a cost for
[37:24] the building yet. It's it's what their
[37:26] fees are for the work based on uh what
[37:30] is available at the time.
[37:32] And they again they were very very
[37:34] competitive. And I think I think we're
[37:36] really fortunate too to have two really quality companies that came in to
[37:42] interview um to choose from.
[37:46] >> So, you know, I mean, we are in a big
[37:49] county and you know, you would you would
[37:51] expect that, but we're just fortunate to
[37:53] have quality companies like that that
[37:56] can do this size of a project without a
[37:59] problem.
[38:01] >> Great.
[38:02] Any
[38:04] further questions?
[38:06] I'm okay to vote on this, right?
[38:08] >> Yes, we defer.
[38:10] >> Okay.
[38:14] Do you need a motion?
[38:15] >> We would just Yeah, just a motion
[38:16] accepting the recommendation of the
[38:18] evaluation committee.
[38:19] >> I'll make the motion to accept the uh
[38:21] recommendation.
[38:22] >> Second.
[38:24] >> Okay, let's go ahead and vote.
[38:26] >> Gdone,
[38:27] >> yes.
[38:28] >> Johnston,
[38:28] >> yes.
[38:29] >> Mallister Atkins,
[38:30] >> yes. Street.
[38:32] >> Yes.
[38:32] >> Alanthic.
[38:33] >> Yes.
[38:35] >> Okay. Very good.
[38:39] » I believe we will need a motion also uh
[38:43] for council to appoint Tiffany as your
[38:45] design uh to complete the required
[38:48] attorney general's sunshine volatility.
[38:51] >> Okay. And I appreciate that. Um I know
[38:55] >> you know Tiffany we're trying to clean
[38:56] things up and do more things just by
[38:58] motion. Make sure they're they're part
[38:59] of the record. I just want to make sure
[39:02] I I know some of the trainings at least
[39:04] when we've looked at in the past it's
[39:05] always during the day when a lot of us
[39:08] are at work and I don't want to assume
[39:10] does anybody want to complete the
[39:12] training or are we okay with Tiffany
[39:14] completing it as our designate and then
[39:17] informing us keeping us keep us on the
[39:20] right side of the of the law.
[39:22] >> We do already have two that did complete
[39:24] it. Um Guy and Trisha both completed it
[39:27] um on their own. [laughter] So,
[39:30] you get the goal. So, I know it's
[39:33] difficult. It is a three-hour training,
[39:34] and you're more than welcome to do it,
[39:36] too, Joanie, if you wanted to watch in
[39:38] with it, or I could be the designate,
[39:41] and you can do both.
[39:43] >> It's all yours. [laughter]
[39:46] >> Yeah. I'll make the motion to accept
[39:48] Tiffany as the uh [laughter]
[39:50] designate for the Sunshine Law Training.
[39:53] >> Second.
[39:54] >> Okay. No further.
[39:56] [laughter]
[39:57] >> Let's go ahead and vote. Gdone,
[39:59] >> yes.
[40:00] >> Johnston,
[40:01] >> yes.
[40:01] >> Mallister Atkins,
[40:02] >> yes.
[40:03] >> Street,
[40:03] >> yes.
[40:03] >> Aliance,
[40:04] >> yes.
[40:05] >> Now, was that motion just for me?
[40:07] >> It's it's for whoever doesn't.
[40:09] >> All right. It's for everyone. All right.
[40:11] >> In and in in the past, it's been in the
[40:13] past it's been everyone,
[40:14] >> correct? For our contin practice.
[40:18] >> I can tell you it has gotten a little
[40:20] more lengthy compared to what it was.
[40:22] [laughter]
[40:23] >> It's interesting though.
[40:25] >> [cough]
[40:27] » So you're so you're saying encourage
[40:30] >> encouraging people to do it, right?
[40:32] >> Yeah. One of those flights to Europe
[40:33] that you right
[40:37] >> get the internet do it.
[40:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. Very good.
[40:39] >> Requiring everybody to
[40:42] >> um Okay. Hey,
[40:44] >> let's let's go ahead for um department
[40:48] I'm sorry I skipped over department head
[40:51] uh reports. So,
[40:54] >> one more thing if I could be there. Um,
[40:55] I sent you the information on that train
[40:57] f company with
[40:59] >> uh, you know, I've met with them a
[41:01] couple of times. They do seem to have a
[41:03] great product, especially for
[41:05] communities like ours. Uh,
[41:07] unfortunately, it is it is very
[41:09] expensive. So, what I left with them was
[41:12] that it likely wouldn't be something
[41:14] that would get funded unless it was
[41:16] considerable grant funding. U, but I
[41:18] think that will maybe help us seek that
[41:20] out. But essentially for anybody get a
[41:22] chance to take a look at it. It would be
[41:24] a notification sent uh system for
[41:28] residents and for first responders when
[41:30] a when a train is stopped on the track
[41:32] as
[41:32] >> it was a little while ago for an
[41:34] extended period of time uh so that
[41:36] people could pre plan to avoid the area
[41:40] but again it's it's it's not
[41:42] inexpensive.
[41:44] I know we have some really good grant
[41:46] writers.
[41:49] » Are the train stoppages happening more
[41:51] than usual this year?
[41:53] >> No, I think beyond the one that lasted for so long
[41:58] which was caused by a derailment. I I
[42:00] don't know that there are any any more
[42:02] frequent.
[42:02] >> I think there was just another one that
[42:04] same week.
[42:05] >> Yes.
[42:06] >> It just happened to be on the same
[42:08] >> one that was considerably more
[42:12] >> Yeah.
[42:14] We as city officials have a lot of the
[42:17] same questions that the community had as
[42:20] far as why they, you know, why they
[42:21] couldn't have backed it up, why, you
[42:23] know, why it was necessary to stop,
[42:25] >> why they don't give us a warning.
[42:26] why
[42:27] the information about what's going on so
[42:30] slowly. As I have said before, we are at
[42:33] the whim of the railroad.
[42:36] Have we experienced any problems with
[42:38] like um our emergency services
[42:41] getting stuck or not being able to make
[42:43] it somewhere?
[42:44] >> So, fortunately from the police
[42:46] standpoint, it's it's relatively easy
[42:48] for the police vehicles to to get around
[42:51] that and I know that fire chief of
[42:53] course coordinates with the township on
[42:55] necessary responses. So, it doesn't uh
[42:58] not that it creates an ideal situation,
[43:00] but it doesn't uh create the kind of
[43:02] issues that I think most people would be
[43:04] concerned about with respect to public
[43:05] safety.
[43:08] >> This company, did they reach out to you
[43:11] >> or did you Were you looking for
[43:12] something?
[43:13] >> They reached out to us.
[43:15] >> Okay. This it's been a couple of months
[43:17] ago that they did that. We've I've had a
[43:19] couple of online meetings with them.
[43:21] Several of those meetings with them.
[43:23] >> Um because then, you know, they had to
[43:25] obviously get some information from us,
[43:27] take a look at the tracks, get some data
[43:30] to come up with a cost to for our
[43:32] particular circumstance.
[43:33] >> Okay. And I replied to your email, but
[43:36] not until like five o'clock today, so
[43:37] you wouldn't have seen it. Uh, a question I had though was, is
[43:43] there something else out there for first
[43:45] responders
[43:47] instead of a big system, a big elaborate
[43:49] system like that? Is there something
[43:51] that they already have? Do the does the railroad company not like allow
[43:56] people to see their schedules and things
[43:58] of that nature? Do they not send out
[44:00] alerts? Is there a way we can do this
[44:01] without
[44:02] >> I I don't know that the schedule would
[44:04] be the issue. It would be the
[44:05] unanticipated stops. Okay. That that
[44:07] >> kind of create the problem. Um
[44:10] >> and again it's very difficult to
[44:15] >> deal with the railroad
[44:16] >> with railroad.
[44:18] >> What's that?
[44:18] >> Lewisville is not unique with railroads.
[44:21] They are just
[44:22] >> if you do some researching online, you
[44:25] will find a lot of communities that have
[44:27] the same issues. I didn't know if there
[44:29] was maybe a smaller system or an easier
[44:32] just something for Yes, I know it's a
[44:34] pain for citizens that, you know, you're
[44:36] coming into town and you have to sit for
[44:37] an hour. I I get that. Um, however, the
[44:40] important would be that a firetruck can
[44:42] get around. Um, which sounds like Rod's
[44:45] already got something in place with
[44:47] Nichell. I'm sure the police have
[44:49] somebody always on both sides of the
[44:50] tracks at all times. I mean, this isn't
[44:52] these these railroad tracks are not new
[44:54] to our town. So,
[44:55] >> correct. And we've also of course
[44:57] [clears throat] had a lot of experience
[44:58] with the flooding which also kind of
[45:00] cuts the the city in half when it
[45:02] happens. So
[45:03] >> I know police and fire are good at
[45:05] adapting to what those circumstances
[45:07] happen.
[45:10] » Where where do we stand with the with
[45:13] the crossings?
[45:16] » Well, the good news is the stuff that we
[45:19] can control.
[45:20] Uh you see the second set of tracks that
[45:23] was on constitution that was um so poor
[45:27] they've been removed and that's been
[45:28] aspholded. We are still waiting for word
[45:32] from Norolk Southern on the potential
[45:36] cost of installing the rubber
[45:41] surfaces over the crossings and uh the privately owned ones. They are also
[45:48] waiting to get information about the
[45:49] company that can because they would also
[45:51] like to install the rubber surfaces to
[45:54] make the consistent smooth. But again,
[45:57] we're relying on the railroad.
[46:01] Well, we'll just we'll take a followup
[46:02] next meeting where where where that's
[46:05] at.
[46:05] >> Okay.
[46:08] Anything else?
[46:09] >> That's all I have.
[46:11] >> All right, Chief.
[46:12] >> Uh, thank you, Mayor. fire department
[46:14] has nothing new to report today unless
[46:16] someone has some questions for me.
[46:18] >> I did see him out um do a few flushing
[46:21] of the hydrants on [snorts]
[46:23] >> Actually, we're we're testing the flow
[46:24] rates on them.
[46:25] >> Oh, is that what that was?
[46:26] >> Yeah, we do a a district every year. So,
[46:28] they're they're in district three right
[46:30] now, which is
[46:30] >> just before it started raining buckets.
[46:32] They had to get soaked.
[46:34] >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
[46:36] >> Yep. That'll be going on till they get
[46:38] district done. Yeah.
[46:39] >> Okay.
[46:39] >> All right. Very good, Dave.
[46:41] >> Mayor, council, I have nothing. this
[46:43] time. Okay,
[46:45] >> Darl.
[46:46] >> Uh, actually, I do have a few things I
[46:48] was excited to tell you all about. The
[46:51] air conditioning that the Constitution
[46:54] Center is wrapping up. They're finishing
[46:56] up.
[46:57] >> Great.
[46:58] >> So, they'll have cold air just in time
[47:00] for it to turn fall and get cold
[47:02] outside. [laughter]
[47:04] >> I know that the community cupboard will
[47:06] be happy to hear that. So, they're
[47:08] dynamic HVAC is doing that job. They're
[47:11] doing an actual They're doing a really
[47:13] good job installing that.
[47:15] >> Um the other thing I wanted to point
[47:17] out, this was at the end of July, but we
[47:19] didn't have a meeting um since then, but
[47:22] New Point Church came into town. I think
[47:24] you and I talked about this a little
[47:26] bit. They um we kind of did a joint um
[47:30] project with them. They wanted to bring
[47:32] in people and do some work in the parks.
[47:35] So we went ahead normally every other
[47:37] year we get playground mulch for some of
[47:39] the playgrounds and we got playground
[47:41] mulch for Eljansik and Wilson and they
[47:44] brought in a group of like 20ome people
[47:46] and they spread the mulch out and did a
[47:48] really beautiful job. So if you get a
[47:50] chance I I was going to bring pictures
[47:51] but if you get a chance to go by
[47:52] Eljansik and Wilson it looks I was
[47:54] vibing there again today. It looks looks
[47:56] really really nice. So
[47:58] >> awesome. Um, thankful.
[48:00] >> Your splash pad is like I've never saw
[48:03] somebody put a splash pad on.
[48:05] >> It is a Yeah, it is a I was excited.
[48:08] I've been driving around the parks and
[48:09] we're um the baseball fields are being
[48:11] used maybe not so much in Meer Park, but
[48:15] um Wildwood's being used quite a bit.
[48:17] Splash pad is just every day people are
[48:20] knocking on the door to get in there.
[48:21] So, it's it's cool to see like to see
[48:24] this stuff get used.
[48:25] >> Absolutely.
[48:26] >> For sure. Um,
[48:28] and then the last thing I'll bring up,
[48:30] and this is kind of a knock on wood sort
[48:32] of a thing, uh, the the Cle Creek creek
[48:35] clearing project that we've been doing,
[48:38] uh, we we keep track of the rainfall
[48:40] amounts at the sewer plant um, at the
[48:42] end of Chapel down here. So, we um,
[48:46] Sunday there was about an inch and a
[48:48] half of rain, and to my knowledge, we
[48:51] didn't see any issues around town as as
[48:54] far as flooding. And that's happened a
[48:55] couple of times this year, but I'm
[48:57] pointing out this past Sunday, I
[48:58] actually had one of our employees says
[49:00] he has a rain gauge at his
[49:01] father-in-law's house, and he said he
[49:03] got over two inches of rain in his
[49:04] father-in-law's house. That's an
[49:06] enormous amount of rain. And I would
[49:09] like to say, knock on wood, hopefully
[49:10] that's due to some of the creek clearing
[49:12] that we've been able to accomplish and
[49:14] some of that project, but again, we're
[49:17] excited that so far it seems like that's going well with the flooding
[49:20] around town.
[49:24] Darl, weren't you? We are applying for
[49:26] some additional funding. Can that too?
[49:28] >> Yeah, Miss Kingham Watershed has a
[49:30] couple of different grant options for us
[49:32] that we are applying for. Um, we're kind
[49:35] of in the process right now. The first
[49:36] one is a one-time grant of 20,000 that
[49:39] you can apply for and get funding, but
[49:41] it's a it's a one-time deal. Um they but
[49:44] what they advised us was to go ahead and
[49:46] apply for that grant because if they
[49:49] deem your project to be an ongoing
[49:51] project that can go year after year, they have a continuing
[49:55] funding uh source for that that we might
[49:57] be able to get to. So,
[50:00] I will say that that the creek clearing,
[50:03] it's kind of one of them things where
[50:06] those guys take material out of that
[50:08] creek, okay? And the water level goes
[50:10] down and then they move down the stream
[50:12] and they keep going. Well, what happens
[50:14] is the water level goes down and it just
[50:16] exposes more stuff in the bottom of the
[50:18] creek. So, then they got to go come back
[50:20] and almost start over, take more out.
[50:22] And there's just that much stuff in that
[50:24] creek down there. I would love to take
[50:27] pictures and show you guys, but every
[50:28] time I go to do that, it's just exposed
[50:31] more logs and stuff laying in the bottom
[50:32] of it. And I'd show you those and you'd
[50:34] be like, "Well, they didn't do
[50:35] anything." So, [laughter]
[50:36] um, but yeah, Dave's right. There is a
[50:39] couple of grant opportunities for us
[50:41] that we were looking into to keep that
[50:43] going.
[50:44] >> We are in the process. Commissioner
[50:45] Harold, me and Andy were at an event and
[50:48] he is we set up a meeting here a couple
[50:51] weeks with Muskang about possibly
[50:53] getting additional funding for projects
[50:56] here in those
[50:58] >> chief you see like where I live where
[51:01] it's been flooded like worst it's
[51:03] flooded since I've lived there worst
[51:06] I've had ducks and geese because it's my
[51:09] whole backyard is like nothing but a
[51:10] pond
[51:13] and he was there so you saw But I mean
[51:15] it it was never like that. It was always
[51:17] messers got that got flooded that into
[51:19] town.
[51:19] >> That was Yeah, that was such an enormous
[51:22] amount of water. And that wasn't it
[51:24] wasn't due to the creeks overflowing. It
[51:26] was because [snorts]
[51:27] >> the amount of water
[51:28] >> the volume of water the
[51:31] storm sewer system just couldn't absorb
[51:33] it as quickly as it was accumulating.
[51:35] >> I mean that wasn't the only time. It
[51:37] just happened the other day. Was it two
[51:40] days ago or whatever? I couldn't mow
[51:41] yesterday. I could mow the front and the
[51:42] side, but I couldn't mow my backyard
[51:44] because the wheels were soaked on my
[51:46] lawnmower.
[51:47] >> That's definitely
[51:48] >> my backyard is just
[51:50] >> And my neighbor too, he said he's never
[51:53] had that much water in his backyard
[51:55] either. And then when I had somebody
[51:57] that's coming to look at my house to add
[51:59] some um soil, he looked in the creek at
[52:02] the creek or whatever and he said
[52:04] there's a big island of silt or you know
[52:09] sand and stuff or dirt that's all there
[52:11] and he he quoted me a price for him to
[52:14] take it out, but it's not my yard. It's
[52:16] not I said, "No, it's not my property.
[52:19] So, we'll see what the creep people have
[52:22] to say." He said, "It's just been
[52:24] accumulating for decades." And It's
[52:26] there.
[52:30] » How far on the the creek removal is it?
[52:33] Are they all the way done? Are they
[52:35] halfway? Are they 3/4 where?
[52:37] >> What percentage that project or that?
[52:39] Because a lot of it we don't you can't
[52:41] see from the road.
[52:43] >> I don't know that you can see. [cough]
[52:45] >> Oh, [clears throat] it's going to be a
[52:47] multi-year.
[52:49] So if if you look at the the watershed,
[52:53] the where we started is the southern
[52:55] portion of the city uh pretty much near
[52:58] the city limits at the main the main
[53:01] branch and then as you go north up to
[53:04] say West Main Street, you cross under
[53:08] 153 and then you have the area that you
[53:10] just referenced kind of across from me.
[53:12] But then if there's tributaries that go
[53:14] off. So, if if you're talking about all
[53:16] of it, it's definitely going to be a
[53:18] multi-year project.
[53:21] We'll of course continue to make
[53:22] progress with what seems, as Daryl said,
[53:25] knock on wood, which seems to have a
[53:27] very positive effect on the on the water
[53:29] coming out of the banks, but it's going
[53:31] to be a process.
[53:33] >> And just for landmark reference points,
[53:37] um the first phase of it took us up
[53:39] almost past where the cemetery is on
[53:44] out here. So
[53:46] they're Yeah, thank you. So they're
[53:49] about even with that. That's the first
[53:52] phase of it. But like he said, that was
[53:53] us going all the way down to the border,
[53:56] the city limits down there and starting
[53:58] there and working our way up past the
[53:59] sewer plant, starting to head north from
[54:01] there.
[54:04] » I I don't know that I remember a summer
[54:08] where at some point we did not have
[54:10] flooding over Main Street Chapel. That's
[54:13] what we very fortunately have not had
[54:14] this year.
[54:15] >> Yeah. And we all have that. So there's
[54:17] that level gauge that's on the bridge
[54:19] there that runs over 44 on the north
[54:22] side up there. And I keep we all have So
[54:24] a lot of us in the service department,
[54:25] we have you can get alerts for that.
[54:28] >> You can sign up to get an alert when it
[54:29] goes over a certain threshold. We've all
[54:31] been kind of waiting to get an alert
[54:32] that it's gone over that threshold and
[54:34] it just doesn't it hasn't yet. So again,
[54:37] knock on wood, but hopefully that's good
[54:39] news.
[54:40] >> Okay. Well, that that almost seems like
[54:42] an ongoing project, I would think,
[54:44] right? I mean,
[54:45] >> well, I I think so. And and and Darl,
[54:48] tell me if you disagree. I it's I don't
[54:51] know this has ever been done before.
[54:53] >> Uh as far as cleaning the the creek, the
[54:57] bed clearing, which is what the the Army
[54:59] Corp of Engineer calls it.
[55:01] >> I don't know that it's ever been done.
[55:02] There are probably trees in there that
[55:04] have been there for
[55:05] >> 50 years. I don't think it has. And most
[55:09] largely due to the the fear of touching
[55:12] any of it because for the longest time
[55:13] it was like what [clears throat] can you
[55:14] do? What what are you allowed to do? You
[55:17] know
[55:17] >> and it wasn't until the Army Corps of
[55:20] Engineers come they came in and did
[55:21] their report and they they said hey this
[55:23] is your best
[55:25] >> the best bang for your buck here just to
[55:27] clear the dead stuff out clear the
[55:28] debris out of it. That's addicted
[55:30] capacity in itself you know to just get
[55:32] that stuff out of the way. So
[55:35] >> yeah, certainly not that it would
[55:37] require maintenance over time, but I
[55:40] ideally we would never be in this
[55:42] position again,
[55:43] >> but just looking at a really really
[55:45] small sample size of the tributary. I
[55:47] mean, I had about 300 feet in my
[55:49] backyard of the broad monarch and for 25
[55:53] years it it looked different all the
[55:56] time. I would clear it out, something
[55:57] else would fall or come down,
[56:00] >> you know, from the west. It was kind of
[56:03] constant. So if you're only looking at
[56:05] 300 feet there of a tributary, I can't
[56:07] even imagine over the course of 25 years
[56:11] what the Non Creek would look like.
[56:13] There's a lot more area to cover.
[56:15] >> There's a lot.
[56:16] >> Yeah.
[56:17] >> Darl, do you guys haul it away or do you
[56:19] just put it out far on the banks where
[56:22] it could?
[56:22] >> So what they they did was they brought
[56:24] in a wood chipper.
[56:25] >> Okay.
[56:26] >> And um a lot of the bigger [snorts]
[56:28] stuff was they had to haul away, but
[56:30] then as much as they possibly could.
[56:32] They were just chipping it up and just
[56:34] spraying it off into the away from the bank there.
[56:38] >> Okay. Yeah, we're we're paying a company
[56:40] to do it. Our our service guys are doing
[56:42] it. Gotcha.
[56:44] >> Yeah. I'm sorry. I probably should have
[56:45] clarified that, but yeah, it's the tree
[56:47] company that's coming in to help us out.
[56:50] >> And did you see an advantage at the
[56:52] water treatment plant of like excess
[56:55] water that it's pumping through there or
[56:57] No, you just saw that we haven't been
[56:59] flooding.
[57:00] >> Not Not yet. But I'm not entirely
[57:02] convinced that that that the two are
[57:06] 100% related. I'm sure there's some
[57:08] crossing over there, but
[57:10] >> um not to get off on whatever, but that
[57:14] that's I think that's got some other
[57:15] issues there why we're seeing those high
[57:17] flows. Okay.
[57:18] >> I think there's other issues
[57:19] contributing to that.
[57:22] >> Okay.
[57:24] >> Surface water. Yes.
[57:27] >> It's a high flow and then it drops off.
[57:29] So it's that indicates a big rush of
[57:32] water about not necessarily.
[57:36] >> Okay. And that's one of the many
[57:37] projects that the service department is
[57:39] pursuing to to address that so that we
[57:41] can get that
[57:43] >> that uh processing rate a little closer
[57:46] to the number that we of gallons of
[57:49] water that we produce.
[57:51] >> Okay.
[57:53] >> Very good.
[57:54] >> Chief,
[57:56] >> um I don't have much. It starts
[57:58] tomorrow. So, my SRO's are back. And uh
[58:00] we need crossing guards if anybody knows
[58:03] anybody. Yeah. Yeah. And uh second,
[58:07] >> retirees are probably the best.
[58:09] >> I know.
[58:10] >> Still in good working shape, but with
[58:13] the time to be able to serve.
[58:15] >> I agree. [laughter]
[58:16] I agree.
[58:17] >> You talk about Roman.
[58:19] >> That's right. That's right. Are you
[58:21] looking for a motion? [laughter]
[58:24] >> It's at wills. It's at completely at
[58:26] will. see his grandkids do.
[58:29] >> Yes.
[58:29] >> Cross my own grandkids on the woods.
[58:33] >> That's it. That's all I have.
[58:35] >> Um,
[58:37] how and I and I want to ask back to
[58:39] school, you know, obviously on my mind.
[58:42] How many issues do we have with people
[58:45] passing buses in the city?
[58:48] >> Not too often. And honestly, the the
[58:50] buses are really good. they have a
[58:52] reporting system down with us on how
[58:53] they can report it to us
[58:55] >> um and if we can get it on camera and
[58:57] make contact. So, it is it is not often
[58:59] that there's an issue. And honestly,
[59:01] most of the people who do they don't do
[59:04] it on purpose. They may just not realize
[59:06] or not have knowledge of how it works.
[59:09] >> I know it's a little bit different in a
[59:11] you know, in a city with a lower speed
[59:13] limit than out in the townships or roads
[59:16] where people are flying or
[59:17] >> correct, right,
[59:19] >> things like that. But yeah, I known some
[59:22] other cities seem to be having issues
[59:24] with it or they looked at different
[59:25] ways, but I just I never heard it
[59:27] brought up. I haven't heard it brought
[59:28] up by schools or us.
[59:30] >> It's not very often that they that they
[59:32] contact us. So, it is not an issue for
[59:34] us.
[59:35] >> All right. One more thing. I know it's
[59:38] hot topic and I talked to you already
[59:40] about it. Did the Did the flock cameras
[59:42] that got taken down, did those get
[59:43] replaced?
[59:45] >> We're working on it and um I talked to
[59:47] Detective Clark because he runs our
[59:48] flock camera system. So whether I I
[59:50] thought it would be better for him to
[59:52] he's going to come to the next council
[59:53] meeting to kind of explain how it works
[59:56] >> um because he runs it and then reports
[59:58] to me and it it's just I think more
[1:00:01] beneficial if you hear it from him
[1:00:02] because he can answer all your questions
[1:00:04] and it's been people have actually been
[1:00:06] coming into station and asking questions
[1:00:08] and we've been very open about what we
[1:00:10] use the cameras for, how we how it works
[1:00:12] and how it's monitored and then when
[1:00:14] people leave they have a little more
[1:00:16] assurance because they're they're
[1:00:17] reading stuff that isn't always
[1:00:18] accurate. Sure.
[1:00:19] >> So, he'll be explaining that next.
[1:00:21] >> Yeah. He's going to do a PowerPoint for
[1:00:22] you and everything. Love
[1:00:23] >> it.
[1:00:27] And was part of the
[1:00:28] >> over $3,000 expenditures that was on
[1:00:31] that list. That was one of the reasons
[1:00:33] why?
[1:00:34] >> No, that's just how we pay for it. Um,
[1:00:37] >> but did you pay for it because of the
[1:00:39] problems that we had with FEP?
[1:00:40] >> No, that's not that's not
[1:00:42] >> It wasn't related.
[1:00:43] >> No.
[1:00:43] >> Okay.
[1:00:45] >> Did Did the ones that get vandalized get
[1:00:46] Did they get replaced yet? They're going
[1:00:48] to
[1:00:48] >> They're going to Okay. So, North Canton
[1:00:50] had several as well. So,
[1:00:52] >> I guess we're not
[1:00:54] >> the only ones.
[1:00:55] >> We're not the only ones in the area. I'm
[1:00:57] sure.
[1:00:57] >> That's such a good point. Finding those
[1:01:00] people.
[1:01:01] >> Yeah, we they're they're very beneficial
[1:01:04] for us for plenty of things. He'll he'll
[1:01:07] do a PowerPoint, but like stolen
[1:01:08] vehicles, protects victims. If there's
[1:01:11] somebody who has a warrant and maybe a
[1:01:12] domestic violence victim and they leave
[1:01:14] in a car, we know what car they're in.
[1:01:16] Um, we've used it to find elderly people
[1:01:19] who drive off and may have a medical
[1:01:21] issue or mental health issue. Um, and we
[1:01:24] found them counties away or or in in our
[1:01:26] city. Um, if another county is looking
[1:01:28] for someone um who who may be missing,
[1:01:31] um, I know it's been used for find, you
[1:01:33] know, abducted children, missing
[1:01:35] children, um, missing adults. Um, we
[1:01:38] actually had a, um, speaking of school,
[1:01:41] someone that worked for the school have
[1:01:42] a medical issue and we were we were able
[1:01:45] to locate them in county because of the
[1:01:47] plot camera and get them an ambulance
[1:01:48] into a hospital. So, it's done a lot of
[1:01:51] really good things for us.
[1:01:52] >> Yeah.
[1:01:52] >> Well, it'd be interesting to know what
[1:01:55] you didn't find because some were
[1:01:56] vandalized or stolen.
[1:01:58] >> Right. Right.
[1:02:00] >> Yep. So, I would encourage anybody who
[1:02:01] has questions, you know, or they're
[1:02:04] curious about cameras, they hear
[1:02:06] different next meeting.
[1:02:07] >> Next meeting or I mean, honestly, people
[1:02:09] have come in. We're we're open. You can
[1:02:11] come into the police department if you
[1:02:12] have a question on on, you know, what we
[1:02:14] use them for and how they work. And I
[1:02:15] think the big concern is how they're
[1:02:17] monitored. So, um, people get a lot of
[1:02:19] relief when we explain, hey, you have to
[1:02:21] put in a case number. You know, our
[1:02:22] detective monitors who puts in the case
[1:02:24] number, what it's used for, and then I
[1:02:26] monitor, you know, when the detective
[1:02:28] uses it, so that it's used for actual
[1:02:30] cases that are open. We're not just
[1:02:31] putting in plates just because we feel
[1:02:33] like it.
[1:02:34] >> Tristan Stuttler had a great post on
[1:02:36] that.
[1:02:36] >> Yes, he did. I appreciate that. Yes.
[1:02:41] >> Okay. [snorts]
[1:02:41] All right, Matt, you don't have anything
[1:02:44] else?
[1:02:45] >> No, I think I've talked
[1:02:46] >> other ways you want to save the city
[1:02:47] money.
[1:02:48] >> Well, I've got all kinds of ideas on
[1:02:50] that. That's for another [laughter]
[1:02:51] time.
[1:02:52] >> All right. Well, I I'll be at the next
[1:02:53] meeting. Can't wait. Can't wait to hear.
[1:02:58] Okay. Um, so I will just entertain a U
[1:03:04] motion to move us into executive session
[1:03:06] for the purpose of discussing
[1:03:08] confidential economic development
[1:03:10] information and for the purpose to
[1:03:12] consider the possible purchase of real
[1:03:14] estate uh for public purposes.
[1:03:18] » Second.
[1:03:20] >> Let's go ahead and do it.
[1:03:22] >> Gdone,
[1:03:23] >> yes.
[1:03:24] >> Johnston,
[1:03:24] >> yes.
[1:03:25] >> Mallister Atkins,
[1:03:26] >> yes. Street.
[1:03:27] >> Yes.
[1:03:28] >> Alanthic.
[1:03:29] >> Yes.
[1:03:29] >> Okay. No business expected to follow.
[1:03:32] Have a good night everybody.
[1:03:33] >> Mayor, can we move into the other room
[1:03:35] that way?
[1:03:49] [music]