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like to welcome everyone to the meeting
of the Sman County Commission August

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20th 2026.
I invite you all to remain standing to

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the end of the pledge by Sheriff
Cassidy. But first, it is a privilege to

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recognize Commissioner Cheryl Hardy for
our invocation.

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Thank you, Commissioner.
>> Thank you. Let us pray.

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Heavenly Father, thank you for your
faithfulness. It is with extraordinary

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gratitude that we come before you this
evening lifting up our beautiful Selen

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County, Tennessee.
Lord, we pray for your Holy Spirit to be

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present here tonight to guide us with
your wisdom and to speak your truth. We

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pray for a spirit of cooperation and
unity that we will listen well to one

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another and we will speak with kindness.
And Lord, we pray for comfort, strength,

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and peace to those in the Milicanin
University community and the many

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grieving families who have suffered such
a great loss this week. We also pray for

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those who are currently in the hospital
in need of physical healing and your

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supernatural touch.
Thank you, Father God, for helping us

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now to work together in harmony and
purpose. And may you receive all of the

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honor and glory. In Jesus name we pray.
Amen.

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» Amen.
Thank you, Commissioner Harvey.

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[clears throat]

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» To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God,
indivisible,

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» with liberty and justice for all.

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» When the board opens, please record your
presence.

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And if uh you wish to address the
commission during public comment, we

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have two
we have two sign in sign up sheets on

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this round table over here of
the gentleman with the camera is there's

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two sheets. Agenda related public
comment and non-aggenda related public

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comment. Everyone here is welcome to
sign up for for either one of them or

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both.
Has

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every member recorded her presence?

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Madam cler

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21 present, three absent.
>> Thank you, Madam Clerk.

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We have a the necessary quorum.
Board of Commissioners order business

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August August 20th, 2026.
Come to order.

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Our first order is approval of notaries
public. Madam clerk, do we have a list

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of notaries?

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May we have
I might have you read it twice if it's

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that long.

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» Amber A. Alheiser, Jessica Anderson,
Rebecca Artrick, Lori Ashley, Patrick C.

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Brigel, Teresa May Brown, Bob Brown,
Rebecca Leanne Bird, Jerry R. Campbell,

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Melinda Hall Castle, Stacy Lynn Dorman,
Christopher Adam Dye, Aaron Ebar, Trina

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Ellis, Lisa G. Guy, Hessle, Michael D.
Hamlin, April R, [clears throat]

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Kimberly Anne Hart, Joshua Aaron Hayes,
Ian Hennessy, Janet Gail Hernandez,

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Jennifer Huffman, Brenda L. Cole, Amber
Herd, Marcus Aaron, Jesse, Angela L.

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Marshall, Christian Scott Masters,
K. Carol Mat, Kirsten Elizabeth Maxwell,

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Andrew
O. Meducas, Mary Neville Mitchum, Debbie

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S. Monk, Christine Morgan, Robin Renee
Bolins, Lindsay B. Mutter, Sherry L.

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Myers, Tracy Yubon, No Cheyenne No
Whiskey, Pamela Aren, Mudra Patel,

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Bert Pow, Powell III, Brenda L. Riffle,
Kimberly Rigsby,

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D. Lee Robinette, William Joseph
Robinette, Jonathan D. Russell, Amelia

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Claire Rust, William S. Ry Jr.,
Tiffany Lynn Grimes Fox

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Wendy an Sauls Hillary Ruth Smith
Rebecca A Smith Gregory A Taylor Angela

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Taylor Shelby Homson
Tina Trivet Laura Dorothy Anne Vance

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Thomas Matthew Warren Roy Daniel Wade
Natalie J Wells Joanne Williams, Brian

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Williams, Kristen Wer.
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» Is that all?
>> That's all.

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» You've heard the list of notaries as
presented. Is there any discussion on

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the list of notaries as presented?
>> Motion to approve.

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» Motion to approve by Commissioner Cole,
second by Commissioner Cross. Any

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further discussion? Without objection,
when the board opens, please cast your

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vote on the list of notaries requiring
13 votes for passage.

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» Has every member voted? Does any member
wish to change their vote?

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Madam clerk,
>> 22 yes, two absent.

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» Thank you, Madam Clerk. Having received
the necessary majority of the votes

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cast, the notaries are approved.
Next order, approval of minutes of board

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of commissioners, Svin County's July
9th, 2026 resoning hearing. July 16th,

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2026 monthly meeting and July 30th, 2026
special call meeting.

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Anyone
seek recognition?

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» Motion to approve.
>> Have a motion to approve by Commissioner

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Cole, second by Commissioner STDM.
Any further discussion on the approval

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of minutes?
Without objection, when the board opens,

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please cast your vote on the approval of
minutes requiring 13 votes for passage.

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every member voted? Does any member wish
to change their vote? Madam clerk,

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» 22 yes, two absent.
>> Thank you, madam clerk. Having received

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the necessary majority of the votes
cast, minutes are approved.

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Without objection, our next order,
appointments, presentations, and

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recognitions.
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I'll do the I'll do the uh the
appointment utility director utility

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district commissioner first. Whereas the
Blunk Utility District Board of

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Commissioners does hereby certify to the
Sman County Mayor pursuant to TCA 782307

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that a vacancy has occurred upon said
utility board by virtue of the

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expiration of a term on September 1st,
2026.

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Whereas the Blunt District Board of
Commissioners further

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certifies that the nominee Wayne
Feathers is qualified and has agreed to

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serve on the board. Now therefore be it
ordained a judge and decreed by Sullivan

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County Mayor Richard Bimble pursuant to
TCA 782307

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that nominee Wayne Feathers shall be
appointed to Blumble Utility District

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Board of Commissioners.

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Is it

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does anyone seek recognition on the
appointment?

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Okay. Anyone seek recognition on the
approval of Mr. Feathers?

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» We need a motion.
>> All right. [laughter]

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Commissioner Cole will make the motion
to approve Mr. Feather's appointment and

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second by Commissioner Acres.
>> See how dependent we've become on

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technology

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without and [clears throat] we're having
a computer having a computer problem.

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What we're going to do, we're going to
do it the old fashioned way. We're going

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to do a roll call with So, uh, requires
13 votes for passage. Ma'am, whenever

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you're ready.

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A yes vote approves.
>> Aker,

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» yes.
>> Calton,

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» yes.
>> Carr,

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» yes.
>> Cole,

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» yes.
>> Crawford,

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» yes.
>> Cross,

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» yes.
>> Cross,

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» yes.
>> Gardner,

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» yes.
>> Glover,

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» yes.
>> Harvey,

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» yes.
>> Hayes,

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» yes.
Hopper.

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» Yes.
>> Horn.

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» Oh, sorry. Horn's absent.
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» Jones absent. King,
>> yes.

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» Leonard,
>> yes.

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» Lock.
>> Yep.

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» McMurray.
>> Yes.

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» Means.
>> Yes.

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» Pierce.
>> Yes.

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» Sidum.
>> Yes.

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» Van Over.
>> Yes. and four.

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» Yes, ma'am.
>> Would anyone like to change their vote?

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» 22 yes, two absent.
>> Thank you, madam clerk. Having received

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the necessary majority of the votes
cast,

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Mr. Feathers is appointed to the Blumble
Utility District Board of Directors.

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Thank you.
All right.

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He wrote Without
objection. Next order. Appointment to

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appoint the following individuals to
serve in the official in the office of

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judicial commissioner magistrate for
Solen County. Term to expire August

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31st, 2028.

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Both cities are together. This is all
one resolution. Good deal. from the

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Bristol Courts, Eric Center of Bristol,
Tennessee, and Bruce Bulis of

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Bluntville, Tennessee. Kingsport Courts,
Loel Butch Atkins of Kingsport,

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Tennessee, and John Blessing of
Kingsport, Tennessee.

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Does anyone seek recognition on the
appointments?

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» I have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Acres, second by

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Commissioner Cton. Any further
discussion on the appointment?

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Seeing none without objection, when the
board opens, please cast your vote on

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the appointments to the Bristol and
Kingsport Courts requiring 13 votes for

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passage.

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Has

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every member voted? Does any member wish
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» Madam clerk,
>> 22 yes to absent.

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[cough and clears throat]

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» Thank you, madam clerk. Having received
the necessary majority of the votes

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cast,
appointments are approved.

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Next order, appointment of Zayn Vanover
to the Tri Cities Airport Authority.

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[snorts]
Pursuant

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Pursuant to Tennessee Code Annitated and
the authority vested in me as mayor of

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Svin County, I hereby appoint
Commissioner Zayn Vanover to the Tri

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Cities Airport Authority to serve the
term allocated to the mayor's

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appointment authority. Please enter the
appointment in the official record on

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the authority and proceed as required by
law respectfully signed by Sen County

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Mayor Richard S. Viddle.

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It's just

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» we don't need

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» appointment.

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And when the board opens, please cast
your vote on the appointment of Zay Van

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over to the Tri Cities Airport,

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» requiring 13 votes for passage.
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[clears throat]

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every member voted?

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» Has every member voted?
>> Does any member wish to change her vote?

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» Madam clerk.
>> 22 yes, two absent.

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» Thank you, Madam Clerk. Having received
the necessary majority of the votes

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received the necessary majority of the
votes cast, Zayn Vanover is appointed to

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the Tri Cities Airport Authority.

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» Without objection, next order is
reappoints of Jeff Cassy, Jim Bean, and

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Darlene Countton to Sullivan County
Emergency Communications District Board.

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» Motion to approve. We have a motion to
approve by Commissioner Cole, second by

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Commissioner Akre. Any further
discussion?

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Without objection, when the board opens,
please cast your vote

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on the on the reappoint.

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[clears throat]

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clerk, we're going to do voice vote
again.

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13 votes for passage.
Yes. Yes. Roll call. Excuse me.

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» yes
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» car
>> yes

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» Cole
>> yes

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» Crawford
>> yes

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» cross
>> yes

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» crossbot
>> yes

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» gardener
>> yes

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» yes
>> Harvey

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» yes
>> yes

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» yes
>> horn absent

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Yes.
>> Jones. Absent. King.

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» Yes.
>> Leonard.

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» Yes.
>> Lock.

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» Yes.
>> McMurray.

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» Yes.
>> Means.

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» Yes.
>> Pierce.

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» Yes.
>> Sidum.

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» Yes.
>> Fiver.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Would anyone like to change their vote?
>> 22 yes. Two absent.

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» Thank you, madam clerk. Having received
the necessary majority of the votes

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cast,
appointments are approved.

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Without objection, next order
presentation.

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Families Free Sullivan County Anti-Drug
Coalition

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and Restoration Recovery Agency
represents to provide update on their

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use of the opioid abatement fund.
[clears throat]

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Thank you. Thanks for being here.
>> Okay. Thank you for having me. Um it's

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great to see everybody again. And I do
have a little refresher handout if it's

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okay if Melody passes those around.
>> Absolutely.

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» Thank you very much.
>> Great. Um Family Free has been so

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grateful to have the funds that were
approved last time in Sullivan County.

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We've been doing some really great
things. Some of that has happened or the

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majority of that has happened at our
treatment location down on Clay Street.

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So, we're able to provide alcohol and
drug treatment, parenting education,

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case management for men and women
involved with Judge Goodwin's recovery

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court. Melody also sits on Judge Nelson
and Judge Vance's mental health court as

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an addiction specialist. She's also a
licensed therapist that can be there to

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provide support for that team and we
have been able to expand a lot of the

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work that we're doing in Svin County
with families involved with Department

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[clears throat] of Children Services.
I'm sure that many of you all are aware

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of the statistics. Um, Michael Gilly
happened to be here the last or I think

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the last time I was here and share about
the very very high numbers of children

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coming into custody and families
involved with Department of Children's

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Services and the primary reason for that
is drug abuse. So, Families Free has

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been able to get an extended contract
with Department of Children's Services

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to do even more intensive inhome work.
And what happens when we go into a lot

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of these homes, they have an
unbelievable amount of need. The

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poverty,
the barriers, the things that these

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children and families need because of
the money the abatement council gave to

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Families Free. We're able to bring those
resources not only to the individuals

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who come to treatment at Clay Street,
but also in many of the homes and the

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families that we're in in the community.
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um in the Sullivan County Jail where
we're able to work with people very

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intensely when they reenter. That's been
a big opportunity as well as to be able

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to interface at different points in the
community like the health department,

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other kinds of places where women who
are vulnerable who are experiencing

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these challenges often with children
show up. So that was that was one thing

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of the funds that you all gave. Um, as
you know, we talked about several

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locations. We talked about houses. We
talked about other buildings and

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properties and um the property that was
the front runner for us to have housing

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that would be free of charge. This will
be the only housing in Sullivan County

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that women and children can live free of
charge connected with licensed alcohol

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and drug treatment as well as mental
health treatment with an agency that's

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also credentialed by Department of
Children's Services. So I guess the hunt

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for a property is still on. Um the
latest building that we presented to the

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opioid abatement council uh we had
requested 75,000

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and that would have allowed us or would
allow us to do the necessary renovations

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and secure that lease and the operating
expenses for almost three years. Um, if

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the commission chooses to to grant those
funds, that would be a path that we

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would look at pursuing. But we also have
another property that we're looking at

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in Colonial Heights that would really
just be a turnkey move in and be able to

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still house up to eight women and
children. So I think that that the new

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request that we brought before the
abatement council and shared about it's

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really the direction that that council
and the commission would like to go. If

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it's a higher amount of funds, like the
175,000, that would be renovating a

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former church in Bluntfield very very
close to here. It'd be a great property.

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Um Joyce and I have met with the owner.
Um it could be a great project.

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The the other route would be leasing a
house in another location in Colonial

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Heights. either would work for the
purposes that we have for a really

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long-term
path for the county. The property in

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Bluntful would be a great option, but I
know that there are a lot of very worthy

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causes that are seeking this money and
you know, you all are are making some

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really wise decisions with it. So um the
the programming with the courts, with

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the jails, with department of children
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has been very robust and will continue
on. And the housing um you know, I fully

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expect to happen in the next few months
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described.

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» Thank you very much. Does anyone seek
recognition?

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two is
you wish to address the commission as

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well?
>> No.

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» Any anyone seek recognition? Any
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» Thank you again for being here. Thank
you a lot. Always welcome.

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» Good evening. I'm Alice McCaffrey, the
director of Salt County Anti-Drug

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Coalition, and we'd like to just quickly
let you know since the last time we were

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here, we appreciate the funds that you
had given us. We'd like you to know what

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we've done with them quickly and how we
partner with our judges to make this

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program happen and then why we think
your support is a good investment.

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And this is the entire staff for this
program.

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Good evening. My name is Scott Spedola.
I'm a certified peer recovery

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specialist.
And the biggest thing that uh we would

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like to thank you for is that last year
we had asked for some some assistance.

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We did not ask for as much as we did
last year. We've asked for $175,000

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this year and we received $175,000
last year. Our program in 2025 alone

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saved the county $182,700

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that incorporated 4,350
days of incarceration

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that was spent with individuals on a
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that figure is multiplied by $42 a day
which was given to us by the sheriff's

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department.
So, we've been able to save the the

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county that kind of money and that is
each year. And if you were to put that

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in terms of how many individuals
contributed to that $4,350

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days, that was only 38 people. That
saved the county 182,700.

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Good evening, everyone. My name is Jeff
Noah. I'm the recovery team leader for

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SCAD. uh I oversee uh our intervention
programs. And just in case uh everyone's

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not familiar, I I'd just like to take
just a moment just to give you a brief

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description on how this program actually
works. Um I would consider us more like

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a hub uh in an airport or an air traffic
controller where all of these

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individuals come into a hub and then we
help direct the traffic on where they

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need to go to get started on this path
of recovery. Um they'll come into us

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three different ways. Usually the jail
kiosk, we have an application that every

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inmate in Sullivan County Jail,
regardless of their gender, age, can

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send an application for free that comes
directly to us. Last year, we received a

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total of 265
uh applications from the inmates

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themselves. That tells me that there's a
desire to at least sit [clears throat]

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down and talk about what recovery might
look like. In addition to that, um,

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we've been able to develop a really good
trustworthy relationship with our

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especially the sessions court judges.
We're available for the circuit court

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judges as well, but they have typically
their own programs that they can use and

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it's the same type of support that we
offer. Um, last year we received a total

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of 206 judge referrals from the sessions
court judges. And I would just quote a

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couple of them. Uh, Judge Conan um was
quoted as saying, "The presence of SCAD

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representative in my court cuts down on
delays in getting treatment assistance

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to the defendants. It can truly be a
lifeline." And then also I have a a

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short quote from Judge Terresa Nelson
who says, "We rely heavily on SCAD, an

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integral part of our ongoing efforts to
combat drug addiction in our uh

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community."
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or the court referrals and then we also
have our other partnering agencies or

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area attorneys. And so when they all
come to us, we go in and sit down with

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them with Sheriff Cassidy has been
phenomenal about giving us access to

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private uh meetings in the jail. We can
go in and sit down and do an assessment.

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Uh from that point, we decide uh an area
of treatment. Is it going to be

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inatient? We work with Frontier Health.
We work with Creekide. We work with CCS

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down in Fall Branch. Uh we work with
Buffalo Valley down in the middle part

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of the state. So what type of treatment
and what's the best place for them? In

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addition to treatment, we also look at
after treatment and we try to find a

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stable recovery housing program for
them. Uh one of our best partners is

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recovery resources and also bridge to
shore. But there are several options in

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our community now. That area is growing
and and we're blessed to have that. So

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we look at treatment, we look at
housing, and we also look at connection

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to their recovery support groups. So we
try to connect them with the best 12step

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program that's going to be for them, and
that comes out of that assessment. And

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so we try to get them either connected
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whichever is going to be best for them.
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employment opportunities. We are in
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partners that are willing to hire people
with criminal records, depending upon

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what those are. uh but the second chance
carrying workplaces all of those we all

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work together in trying to develop that
and then ongoing it's not just getting

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them out of jail and getting them to
treatment and getting them into a

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recovery house but we have certified
peer recovery specialists certified by

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the state of Tennessee that provide this
ongoing support for we we currently have

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clients that we have on our book for
three years so it's not just holding

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their hands immediately at the beginning
but continuing that journey with them on

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until they get totally back on their
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» My name is Whitney Turner. Um I'm a
certified peer recovery specialist. With

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the 175,000 that we are asking for, a
portion of that will go to the staff. Um

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pay also 10% of that would go to the
administration for bookkeeping, etc.

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things like that. But the majority of
that goes to client needs. Um so what

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that would look like is emergency
housing. Um a lot of the time people are

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coming out of jail and they need
somewhere to go immediately. Um

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treatment admission. Sometimes there's
fees when we send them to treatment. Um

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documentation, we help them get birth
certificates, IDs, different things like

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that. The biggest one is transportation.
Um probably our most costly thing. Um,

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we make sure they get to all their
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pre-trial appointments, anything court
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Um, thank you guys.
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» So, our target when we got the first um,
grant from y'all was to keep recidivism

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below 10%. For folks that sign up and
stay with us for a year, it's four it's

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under 4%. So we feel like it is a
successful program but there were other

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successes we found along the way that we
weren't expecting. So if the clients are

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with us for six months
64 of them 64% of them have continuous

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sobriety during that time and only 8%
experienced a relapse. Um, one of the

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places where we are hoping is a growing
edge for us and we're hoping for

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improvement is the employment. The
employment for six months or more

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or we don't count it until they have
been employed continuously for six

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months. It's at 30%. So, we have um
written another grant hoping to be able

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to work on getting people trained for
better jobs. Some of our employees, of

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the 30%, nine of them have gotten
promotions. We'd like to see that get

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better and we think it can only get
better if they're better trained. So um

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the grant that we have applied for
requires this money because we have to

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do a 100% match and this money would be
about a third of that match for us and

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then we are anticipating
about 585 referrals in a year and that

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is based on real numbers that we have
had between the court referrals, the

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self referrals and the agency referrals
and we would not all of them will stay

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with us but a lot of them do and then
they know that we exist next time. So um

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I would like to say one of the main
things that I'm so proud of is our peer

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recovery specialists. I think that makes
the difference because they have the

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experience to connect almost immediately
to the folks that they're trying to help

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and then they definitely know how to
navigate them.

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» Thank you. You've heard the
presentations. Anyone seek recognition?

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Any questions or comments for our guest?

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Mr. Ward.
Scott, is there a friend here?

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» Yes, sir. There is.

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» Would you like to speak now or?
>> Well, I hate to put it on the spot.

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» Okay.
>> So nervous.

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» Welcome.
>> Take your time.

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» You're welcome.
>> Okay. Hey, I'm Caitlyn. I'm here to

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speak for the approval of the requested
grant for the Sultan County Anti-Drug

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Coalition.
I've been clean for two years and four

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months. I was in acquisition for seven
years and due to my addiction, I didn't

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have a relationship with my family or
daughter. I was at rock bottom and

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honestly didn't think I was going to
make it out. I was in and out of jail

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went to treatment three times. The last
time I went to jail, I was pregnant and

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didn't know what was going to happen to
me or my baby.

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But Judge Nelson Scott went with
Sullivan County Anti-Drug Coalition and

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pre-trial gave me the opportunity to
turn my life around. I completed a

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28-day rehab and from there I went to a
mommy house at British Shore. I was

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there for a little over a year and
completed and graduated all the phases.

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They helped me to live a normal life
after addiction. In [cough] that

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program, I learned um accountability,
how to build a support network, and how

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to be financially responsible.

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While there, I also completed pre-trial
and got my license back. Since

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completing that program, I've continued
to work full-time. I completed probation

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and I'm a full-time mom. I know I have
done the work to get where I'm at today,

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but without these programs and the
amazing people in these programs or

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guidance,

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sorry.

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Okay, without these people and support
and guidance, I wouldn't be where I'm at

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today. I hope this program continues to
give other addicts the opportunity that

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I was given. They all sent me at my
lowest and believe me and supported me

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and helped me save my life.
to give addicts the support and hope to

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turn their lives around. This program is
vital to helping make productive members

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of society. Without Sen County Anti-Drug
Coalition, I would have just served

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another jail sentence and I wouldn't be
able to be the mom, sister, daughter, or

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person I am today.

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[applause]

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Questions?

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Thank Thank y'all very much.
>> Mr. Forester.

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» Hey, good evening y'all. My name is
Craig Forster. I am a treasurer for

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Sullivan County Recovery Restoration. Uh
Judge Goodwin's not be able to here here

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tonight. He's uh he's currently on
vacation. Um the folks that we serve are

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on the felony recovery court in Judge
Goodwin's court. So we get the u the

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hardest nuts to crack, the tough the
toughest ones. Uh they have to assess

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high risk, high need. They uh most of
them are mult multi-to felons who don't

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have a lot of the support some of the
other folks have. Uh we've hired a CPRS

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thanks to you all funding our project
last year who uh runs those folks

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everywhere, gets them everything they
need from um you know when the drug when

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they have to drug screen up here at the
board of probation and parole three to

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four times a week. He makes sure they're
there. He gets them to their dental

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appointments, their eye doctor
appointments, their doctor appointments.

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Uh Wednesdays when we have court up here
in Judge Goodman's court, he does a

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fantastic job with that. Um I'm going to
take that hat off. I'm going to put on

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another hat. Um I I'm a founder and
director of recovery resources. You guys

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have funded us for two years in a row.
And I just wanted to tell you all thank

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you. Um I'm a Solivan County guy. I grew
up here. Uh I love Svin County. And uh

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I'm a felon in this in this county. I am
um

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I'm a victim of the uh the opioid
epidemic. Like it like through and

434
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:52,160
through. Like I I I'm the reason we have
funds here. And I can't thank you all

435
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:55,760
enough [clears throat] for the way that
y'all delegated those funds, the way

436
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,800
you've supported programs in our
community that do great work. Uh, I

437
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:05,680
can't speak to the amount of good work
that the folks at Scad and Families Free

438
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,880
do. Um, so thank you all for everything
you do and I appreciate you very, very

439
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,760
much.
>> Thank you for everything you do, sir.

440
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:15,480
Thank you. Anyone have any questions,
comments? Mr. Forester.

441
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,800
» Thank you. Thank you for always. Thank
you for being here as always.

442
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,800
[applause]

443
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:32,480
» Were you seeking recognition, George?
You didn't hit your button.

444
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:37,156
» Thank all of them. But on your desk, you
will find just exactly how much we have

445
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,359
spent out the Opio development fund.
[clears throat] 3,183

446
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:48,560
254 cents. I am so proud of this
committee. And if I may, I'd like to

447
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:55,200
read their names because it's been rough
meetings because there's so many that

448
00:37:50,800 --> 00:38:03,839
need help. But uh Jim Goodwin, Jeff
Cassidy, Travis Ward, Jessica Beans,

449
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:11,440
Joe Carr, Larry Crawford,
Archie Pierce, Darling, and Zane. And

450
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:14,960
they have they have really worked hard
to make sure this money [clears throat]

451
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:19,440
goes to the right place to the right
place and hopefully we'll have some more

452
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:25,320
to come. But thank all of you.
>> Thank you. [applause]

453
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,320
Our

454
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:35,119
next order, I'm going to ask Mayor Elect
Zane Vanover to go to the front and I'd

455
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:40,359
like to invite
Mayor Richard Venel to the front.

456
00:38:42,656 --> 00:38:44,676
[applause]

457
00:38:54,079 --> 00:39:01,839
Just want to say that I'm very proud to
be the man that gets to stand right here

458
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:06,160
and honor this man.
If I can be half the man he's been and

459
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,000
have to get good a job this man's done,
then I'll be very, very proud of myself.

460
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,520
So,
it's truly an honor to do this for

461
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:19,200
myself. It's a proclamation and honor
and recognition of Richard S. Vable.

462
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Whereas Solen County Mayor Richard S.
Venal has been an important and

463
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:28,720
respected presence in Sen County for
decades, including the 16 years of

464
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:32,880
distinguished service as county mayor,
an illustrious chapter in a broader

465
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:37,359
public service career that will
regretfully conclude on August 31st,

466
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,079
2026.
Whereas

467
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:46,880
in serving the people of Sullivan County
with the highest degree of integrity,

468
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:51,920
dedication, and professionalism, Mayor
Venal has consistently embraced the

469
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:57,920
mantle of civic responsibility and
public stewardship. And whereas Mayor

470
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:02,800
Venal is a generous and compassionate
member of the community who has made

471
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:08,800
significant contributions to numerous
civic, religious, and charitable

472
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:13,680
organizations. And whereas Mayor Benal
leaves a legacy of trust and cooperation

473
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:19,040
among the citizens of Sullivan County
that transcends geographically,

474
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:22,880
politically, and social boundaries. and
he will long be remembered as an

475
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:28,079
advocate for responsible government and
the interest of working people. And

476
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:32,400
whereas Richard Asbenville has been a
steadfast and influential leader among

477
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:37,760
the decision makers of our time, a
gentleman whose talent, wisdom, and

478
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:42,880
energy will selt be equaled and whose
presence and public service will be

479
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:47,280
greatly missed. And whereas it is
fitting and proper that the friends,

480
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:52,480
colleagues, and citizens of Sullivan
County honor this outstanding public

481
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:57,359
servant, and recognize his many
accomplishments and contributions to our

482
00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:01,200
county. Now therefore, be it resolved
that the board of commissioners of

483
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:04,880
Sullivan County, Tennessee, consisting
of the 24 members serving during the

484
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:11,119
2022
2026 term of office, hereby expresses

485
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:15,599
its heartfelt gratitude and appreciation
to Mayor Richard S. Venal for his

486
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:21,119
countless services to our citizens and
communities and honors him for his

487
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:26,160
distinguished career in public service.
Be it further resolved that the board

488
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:31,839
extends to Mayor Venible and his family
its sincere best wishes for continued

489
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:38,400
success, happiness, and fulfillment in
all future endeavors. Be it further

490
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:43,680
declared that August 28th, 2026 shall be
known and celebrated throughout Solen

491
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:48,720
County as Richard S. been able day and
all citizens are encouraged to join in

492
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:53,264
recognition and celebration in
celebrating his exceptional legacy of

493
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:55,284
service.
[applause]

494
00:42:02,433 --> 00:42:04,453
[applause]

495
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:22,720
I'm not going to keep you because they
got a heavy load tonight and I'm aware

496
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:27,119
of that. But first of all, Commissioner,
it's been a pleasure serving with you.

497
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:32,640
Thank you for all the work you did.
Thank you for being here. I know it's

498
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:37,599
not easy to get here, but you've disting
distinguished yourself

499
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,079
this year. And to those that are
remaining,

500
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:46,880
be prepared to put your note to the
ground stone. Again, to those that are

501
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:51,960
leaving, thank you. And I know you'll
find another way to serve your

502
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,960
community.

503
00:42:53,119 --> 00:43:00,240
Thank you all for giving me the
opportunity

504
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:05,599
to serve you. Um, it's been the greatest
joy of my life

505
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:11,864
and I shall miss this.
But uh again, I wouldn't miss it for the

506
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,884
world. Thank you.
[applause]

507
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:35,040
» I'll take 48.
Now, Mayor Bill, if we could, Mayor

508
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:40,560
Bill, if we could get a little more work
out of you, we've got some proclamations

509
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:44,520
we'd actually like for you to present.
>> He thought you thought you were off.

510
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:54,599
» I'm not sure what order you have them,
but they're all there.

511
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,599
» I'm too choked up to talk, be honest.

512
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Scotty Murray, are you here? Scotty

513
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:17,119
Scotty was probably out fixing your
roads.

514
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,119
But we will deliver this proclamation to
Scotty.

515
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:27,760
Whereas Scott Mary
has served the residents of Svin County

516
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:34,000
with distinction, integrity,
and unwavering dedication through more

517
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:37,280
than 45 years of exemplary service
with the Southern County Highway

518
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:42,079
Department. [clears throat] Whereas
throughout his career, Scotty has worked

519
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:46,480
tirelessly through challenging weather
conditions, maintenance operations, and

520
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:52,240
infrastructure demands to help ensure
the safety, accessibility, and

521
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:56,800
connectivity of Southern County roadways
and communities.

522
00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:02,319
And we're asked since assuming the role
of highway commissioner in 2018,

523
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:06,560
Gotti has led continuous improvements in
the highway department delivery of

524
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:11,440
public service emphasizing road
improvements, paving projects and prompt

525
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:17,359
responses to hazardous weather events
and removal of dangerous debris.

526
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:21,839
Whereas Scotty's cooperative service and
commitment partnership have strengthened

527
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:26,480
the highway department collaborative
efforts with other local governments,

528
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:30,800
agencies, and county departments,
resulting in numerous successful

529
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:36,480
projects that have benefited the
citizens of Sen County.

530
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,400
And whereas Scotty has been a val valued
member of the Salt Lake County Financial

531
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:44,720
Management Committee,
contributing his knowledge, his

532
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:49,520
experience, and sound judgment to the
county's financial stewardship.

533
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:55,280
And whereas
Scotty's steadfast work ethic, positive

534
00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:01,359
attitude, and professional expertise has
earned him the respect and admiration of

535
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:05,839
colleagues, public officials, and
citizens alike.

536
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:11,760
leaving a lasting and positive impact on
Southern County and all those fortunate

537
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:14,960
enough to have worked with him.
Now therefore, be it resolved that the

538
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:23,760
Salt County Board of Commissioners does
hereby proclaim August 31st, 2026 as

539
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:28,640
Scotty Scotty Mary Day on behalf of the
citizens of Sullivan County expresses

540
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:34,400
its deepest gratitude and sincere
appreciation for his remarkable career,

541
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:40,400
public service, leadership, and
dedication

542
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:45,520
to the people of Southern County.
And with this here I here under second

543
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:54,319
my hand that caused the seal of southern
Canada to be affixed on in blunt on the

544
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:59,800
20th day of August 2026.
Zane Vanover mayor elect

545
00:47:00,462 --> 00:47:02,482
[applause]

546
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:13,880
make sure that that's delivered to
Scotty. He's been a wonderful public

547
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,880
service uh servant.

548
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,400
Council Street, would you join me up
here?

549
00:47:23,387 --> 00:47:25,407
[applause]

550
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:38,640
This is a particular pleasure of mine
because I've always

551
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:42,720
a great friend.
Proclamation honoring and recognizing

552
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,359
Daniel Fe street for outstanding public
service. Whereas Daniel F Street has

553
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:54,000
served with distinction as county
attorney for Sullivan County, Tennessee

554
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:58,000
for 32 years, earning the trust and
overwhelming support of the citizens of

555
00:47:55,839 --> 00:48:03,119
Southern County through repeated
elections. Whereas through his tenure,

556
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Mr. Street has provided exceptional
legal counsel,

557
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:12,880
guided Sel County through complex legal
matters, and safeguarded public interest

558
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:18,560
with unwavering integrity,
professionalism, and dedication.

559
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:24,240
Whereas his steadfast commitment to the
rule of law and his support of county

560
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:31,200
government operations have profoundly
benefited southern citizens of Seldon

561
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:36,240
County and strengthening the effective
administration of local government.

562
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:43,280
Whereas Mr. Street is deserving a
special recognition for his tireless

563
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:47,440
work ethic, ethic, sound judgment, vi
counsel, and enduring commitment to

564
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:52,720
justice.
All of which have set the standard of

565
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:56,800
excellence in public service.
Now therefore, be it proclaimed that the

566
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,160
board of commissioners of Sullivan
County, Tennessee, hereby honors and

567
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:05,280
recognizes
Daniel P. Street for his outstanding

568
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:09,760
service, dedication, and contributions
to the citizens and communities of Selma

569
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:15,280
County.
Be it further proclaim that this county

570
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:21,440
commission, which Mr. M Mr. Street has
so faithfully and skillfully advised

571
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:27,119
through eight four-year terms
extends its sincere gratitude and best

572
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:32,960
wishes for him and his family for
continued happiness, success, and

573
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:39,119
fulfillment of all their endeavors. Be
it further declared that August 21st,

574
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:44,480
2021 shall be observed and celebrated
throughout Sullivan County as Daniel P.

575
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:51,520
three days
in recognition of his exemplary public

576
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:58,079
service and lasting leg legacy and the
witness wherefore I want here to set my

577
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:05,520
hand and cause
Silvin County Tennessee to be a fixed in

578
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:12,720
on this 20th day of August 2026
signed by Zane Van

579
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:18,319
mayor elect Dan I u I can't find the
word to tell you how much you have

580
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:25,760
guided me and guided this commission
over the years. And uh I know your

581
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:31,920
family's proud of you and we are equally
proud of you. We wish you the best.

582
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:37,980
You've got a lot life before you and and
we we wish you the best in doing that.

583
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,980
» Well, thank you. [applause]

584
00:50:45,130 --> 00:50:47,150
» [applause]

585
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:57,575
» Well, it's truly been an honor. I you
know, who would have ever figured

586
00:50:54,079 --> 00:51:00,880
anybody would say that about me?
[laughter]

587
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:06,400
Uh, you know, I don't know what to say,
but I will say this. Solomon County is a

588
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:12,240
great county, a beautiful county, and
the people I've worked with are great

589
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:17,880
people. Um, I really have a lot of pride
in this county, and I am so fortunate to

590
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,900
been able to do this. Thank you.
[applause]

591
00:51:29,015 --> 00:51:31,035
» [laughter]

592
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:48,960
» We have one more
and it's a very important one.

593
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:53,760
Uh, is Jim McGomery here?
Jim faithfully comes most times. He

594
00:51:51,040 --> 00:52:00,079
might have found out we were doing this,
but uh if he's not, I hope I will

595
00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:06,960
deliver this personally to him. Uh he's
such a great guy. Proclamation honoring

596
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:11,280
and recognizing James Jim McGomery.
Whereas James McGomery has served the

597
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:15,920
residents of Sullivan County with
distinction,

598
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:23,680
integrity, and unwavering dedication
through more than 46 years of exemplary

599
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:29,040
service with Sen Highway Department.
and whereas since beginning his career

600
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:32,960
on January 2nd, 1980,
last millennium,

601
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:36,559
Jim has worked tirelessly through
challenging weather conditions,

602
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,720
maintenance operations, and
infrastructure demands to help ensure

603
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:44,000
the safety, accessibility, and
connectivity

604
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:48,720
of Southern County roadways and
communities.

605
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:53,839
Whereas steadfast work ethic, positive
attitude, and professional expertise

606
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:57,839
have earned the respect and admiration
of his colleagues

607
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:02,079
and the citizens he has faithfully
served,

608
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:06,480
leaving a lasting and positive impact on
our county.

609
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:11,440
And whereas his commitment to public
services

610
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:16,079
by high standards of dedication and
professionalism

611
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:21,040
and has contributed significantly to the
quality of life enjoyed by the resident

612
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:26,800
soul county. Now therefore be it
resolved that the Sen County Board of

613
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:33,839
Commissioners do
August 31st, 2026

614
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:41,680
as Jim McGomery Day and on behalf of the
citizens of S County expresses a deepest

615
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:46,640
gratitude and sincere appreciation
for his remarkable career of public

616
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:52,000
service and dedication to the people of
this county

617
00:53:48,720 --> 00:54:00,079
and witness Miss by your honor set my
hand seal of Sen County, Tennessee to be

618
00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:06,400
a fixed emble on this 20th day of August
2026.

619
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:14,559
Zane Venover Solen County mayor elect.
So I will pass on your thanks to Jim

620
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:18,800
uh a wonderful man who uh sacrificed
much and came to work when it wasn't

621
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:25,920
easy.
42 years of service. Uh we will miss

622
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:31,760
Jim, we'll miss Scotty, and certainly
miss Dan Street. But uh fortunately,

623
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:37,680
here in S County,
we have people who will step up and

624
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:42,559
reflect your values
and your ambitions and your goals for

625
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:46,400
Southern County.
And again, thank you for letting me

626
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:54,088
serve you.
and uh I'll never forget your kindness

627
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,088
to me. Thank you. [applause]

628
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:01,760
And mayor,
Mayor Vimble,

629
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,567
» I can't go.
>> Not yet. [laughter]

630
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:15,280
Unless you're off the clock. [laughter]
>> While you were speaking, I went and got

631
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:19,520
that box on the table. Our ne our next
our next item is the recognition of

632
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:23,240
outgoing members and we have plaques for
you to present there.

633
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:30,319
» Those can be work.
[laughter]

634
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:33,520
» Would you like me to just pass them out?
>> Oh, you can call their name off. They

635
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:37,079
can get a picture if they like.
>> You have a photographer.

636
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:44,319
» I'll do I'll take pictures. You want to
do this?

637
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:52,383
First up, Commissioner Barry Holland.
There he is. [applause]

638
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:02,640
And Barry has stepped in.
>> This is the second time.

639
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:08,480
» Second time. Yes.
>> To fill a seat. And he has done it with

640
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:11,119
distinction and good humor and gave me a
clock one time so we could time public

641
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:14,720
service.
>> Exactly.

642
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:19,760
Sir, it's been a pleasure to
participate.

643
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:26,880
Citizens of this community, anytime you
have an opportunity to be a part of the

644
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:35,440
decision making in the community, a
chance to uh be with people like our

645
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:42,109
outgoing mayor and our new mayor. It
would be a great pleasure and honor for

646
00:56:37,839 --> 00:56:44,129
you to do so. Thank you. Thank you.
>> [applause]

647
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,040
» I'm walking on too.

648
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:59,400
» Joe Mer.

649
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,000
» Okay.
Hear me better?

650
00:57:17,479 --> 00:57:19,499
» [clears throat]

651
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:28,669
» Commissioner Tony. Tony.
[applause]

652
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,000
Mr. Daniel Haw Daniel here.

653
00:57:54,079 --> 00:58:02,799
» I will say that Daniel
has given greatly to the commission when

654
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:07,200
he could.
Great young man. I wish him well.

655
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,079
We will deliver this.

656
00:58:15,775 --> 00:58:17,795
[applause]

657
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:31,480
We're going to [clears throat]
a bigger venue, but not want to thank

658
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,480
more of you. I have a new house.

659
00:58:36,735 --> 00:58:38,755
» [applause]

660
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,680
» Miss Darlene Kerton

661
00:58:49,835 --> 00:58:51,855
[applause]

662
00:58:55,359 --> 00:59:03,839
Darlene. I've known you for 30 years and
mispronounce your name.

663
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:09,040
» You're right. You got Cooper with you.
>> Thank you, dear, for your service to

664
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:12,839
Svin County. We've loved having you and
we know you'll do something.

665
00:59:16,691 --> 00:59:18,711
[applause]

666
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:29,000
Cooper was actually the commission
mascot. Unofficial.

667
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,086
Mayor Zayn Vanov,
[applause]

668
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:46,000
as you make your way up here, I can say
that I can leave Sullivan County because

669
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,440
of you and leave it in good hand.
>> You sure you don't want to change your

670
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,151
mind?
>> No. [laughter]

671
00:59:57,301 --> 00:59:59,321
» [applause]

672
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:08,200
» Jo, I'll put you down here somewhere.
>> Oh, okay. Well, let me get my picture

673
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,200
taken.

674
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:15,599
» Won't do you any good in the next
campaign.

675
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:20,480
» So, thank you for your service and
dedication to Svin County and uh and

676
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:24,211
your dedication to community. Thank you.
>> Thank you. THANK YOU. [applause]

677
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,276
COMMISSIONER Jessica means
[applause]

678
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:49,640
that seat was empty and I thought you
got 11.

679
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Congratulations.

680
01:00:54,942 --> 01:00:56,962
» [applause]

681
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:06,787
» Mr. Hersel Glover
[applause]

682
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:15,280
make his way up here. I want to also
thank him for being the one and only

683
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:22,359
chairman of our financial management
committee that we established as a

684
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,359
result of our private act.

685
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:27,092
Thank you. Appreciate you. [applause]

686
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,847
» Mr. David Hayes short trip, DAVID.
>> [applause]

687
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:52,839
» HAS DONE A wonderful job for us and has
started his own business and we wish him

688
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:52,839
well in that appreciate your service.

689
01:01:54,547 --> 01:01:56,567
[applause]

690
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:10,322
Archie Pierce
[applause]

691
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:22,240
has the distinction of having been here
twice and he's a couple of days my

692
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:26,480
senior but can't thank him enough for
coming back and running to serve the

693
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,573
people of Southern County. Uh Archie
many many years of service and thank

694
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,593
you.
>> [applause]

695
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:41,960
» We want our picture with me and Hunter
got him in this racket. So we're going

696
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,960
to get

697
01:02:54,808 --> 01:02:56,828
[applause]

698
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:04,033
Miss Cheryl Harvey,
[applause]

699
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:13,760
she makes her way up here. I want to
thank her for moving back to her

700
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:17,880
hometown when you could live anywhere.
Thank you, Cheryl. Thank you. Appreciate

701
01:03:21,663 --> 01:03:23,683
» [applause]

702
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:34,319
» believe that's all and we will get
Daniels to him. Um John, you got

703
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:39,680
anything else for me to do? I can tap
Daniel

704
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:46,640
and I should have given you these as you
came up, but I'll leave them here and

705
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:51,680
for to get your flags on safe and sound.
So, this is me SIGNING OFF.

706
01:03:51,794 --> 01:03:53,814
» [applause]

707
01:03:59,359 --> 01:04:06,559
» I ACTUALLY CALLED MAYOR TODAY AND I
offered him a as a uh appreciation and

708
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:10,960
respect offered him the opportunity to
chair this meeting his last meeting as

709
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:14,119
mayor and I won't tell you what he said
to me. [laughter]

710
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:21,520
And also uh u on the outgoing
commissioner's desk there's another

711
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:26,440
plaque distributed by uh by Mark
Torbett. So I hope you enjoy those as

712
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,440
well.

713
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:34,559
» Our next order is public comment on
agenda and non-aggenda related items. Is

714
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:39,960
there anyone here that didn't get the
opportunity to sign up for public

715
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,960
comment that would like to?

716
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:50,240
While we're getting that squared away,
I'm going to go ahead and read our rules

717
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:57,200
of public comment
pursuit to our local rule. Rule four,

718
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:02,559
we'll recess for 30 minutes for the
purpose of hearing from the public.

719
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:07,520
Each speaker is requested to state their
name and address for the clerk's

720
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:12,240
electronic record. Though this is not
question answer, clarifying questions

721
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:16,880
may be permitted. No speaker can
transfer or yield time to another

722
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:21,039
speaker. Thank you very much.
Each speaker will be allotted three

723
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:26,480
minutes uninterrupted and is asked to
direct all comments to the chair of the

724
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:31,359
body and not the members.
At the end of the three minutes, I will

725
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:35,559
let you know and I'll ask that you make
your final statements

726
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:59,160
and I'll begin with agenda related
Gary instead of

727
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,880
» Oh, I thought she was going to the
whale, sir. Excuse me.

728
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:12,079
» Go ahead, sir. Now, Mr. Chairman, I'll
just do this from my desk. Uh, tonight

729
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:16,319
I'm speaking about item 12, surveillance
cameras or better known as block

730
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:21,039
cameras. One thing I want to point out
about this, this had nothing to do with

731
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:25,200
the sheriff's department. Our sheriff's
department and our sheriff are topnotch.

732
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:30,720
Most professional organization you're
going to find anywhere.

733
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:35,280
The sheriff has decided to go ahead and
dis uh disable those cameras. They're

734
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:39,039
not being used anymore. No one else can
use those cameras or the feed from them.

735
01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:45,520
So, at this time, we're going to
withdraw this resolution.

736
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:51,119
The uh other question was about whether
this could be put on a referendum. Uh

737
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:55,280
and it can. And one of the reasons why
in a constitutional local government,

738
01:06:52,960 --> 01:07:01,119
which Solen County has, the only
referendums that can be held according

739
01:06:57,359 --> 01:07:06,559
to state law are for sales tax. I even
hate even saying this one in this room,

740
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:12,480
a will tax, annexation by cities,
general obligation bonds, liquor by the

741
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:16,880
drink, wine sales, and grocery stores.
So tonight, there'll be no discussion on

742
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:21,440
this. It'll basically when it comes up,
it'll be just withdrawn and move on.

743
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:24,760
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you,
Commissioner St.

744
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:33,680
Caitlyn.
Forgive me if I mispronounce your name.

745
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:37,119
I mispronounced eight out of 10. Caitlyn
Coulson.

746
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:40,960
» Sir, that was uh Caitlyn that spoke
earlier with

747
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:44,480
» Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you very
much. Craig Forester, you wish to

748
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:51,400
address the commission again? No sir.
Thank you,

749
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:51,400
» Pam Eert.

750
01:07:53,440 --> 01:08:00,480
» Welcome. Thank you.
>> Thank you. And I appreciate the

751
01:07:57,839 --> 01:08:06,880
opportunity to speak tonight. I am Pam
Heert and I live at 212 Exit Lane,

752
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:11,839
Blumble. And uh I serve on the board of
the Sullivan County Historical

753
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:18,400
Preservation Association. It's a long
one and I've been on that board for 25

754
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:24,080
years. Currently, I serve as treasurer.
And I'm not here asking for money for

755
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:31,120
the historical association. I'm here to
remind everyone here that when the plan

756
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:36,319
was developed for the hotel motel tax
and it was initiated in 2020, it was to

757
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:41,279
promote tourism by helping the county
fund the historic buildings that it owns

758
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:46,719
in downtown Lumpul. I want you to think
of what our town would look like without

759
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:52,799
Anderson Townhouse and Blizzard Museum
and the Rutage House and Community

760
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:58,400
Center, the Sheriff's Home and Jail. And
that was designed almost 20 years ago to

761
01:08:55,679 --> 01:09:03,679
be a welcome center and the jewel of our
downtown Blumble, the Dairy Inn and all

762
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:09,279
the dependent buildings out back in the
park on the property. These historic

763
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:15,120
buildings are what make Blumb unique. is
what's bringing tourists into our town.

764
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:19,359
We can actually show people what history
looks like instead of them reading it

765
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:24,719
out of a book. For those who have not
seen the inn lately, you're missing out.

766
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:28,960
It's beautiful. A small group of
volunteers has been responsible for

767
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:34,159
furnishing the buildings and opening
them for tours. But the county is

768
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:40,239
responsible for maintaining them. and
doing that with 200 plus year old

769
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:45,359
buildings is a that need a lot of care
is a tough thing to do.

770
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:50,960
What I don't understand is why the
tourism money collected in Sullivan

771
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:56,080
County is not used for that purpose.
When property taxes and sales taxes are

772
01:09:53,600 --> 01:10:01,600
collected, do we send that money out to
other counties for them to use for their

773
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:06,800
budgets? I don't think so. When every
county has the ability to collect the

774
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:11,679
same taxes that we do, why are we giving
our resources to four other counties? I

775
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:17,040
don't have a problem with contributing
to NETA, but if it appears to me at this

776
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:23,280
time that we are funding them. I think
the fact that Kingsport and Bristol have

777
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:28,960
their own hotel motto motel tax at a
higher rate than what the county is and

778
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:33,520
that's where all the hotels are that you
are doing the citizens of Sullivan

779
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:38,560
County a major injustice by not using
these tax dollars for Sullivan County.

780
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:43,679
What I really want to know is and hope
someone can tell me where the more than

781
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:48,640
$1 million that's been collected in the
last three years has gone. And I

782
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:53,440
appreciate that tonight Joyce is here
trying to help us with this issue and I

783
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:58,259
hope you will support her. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.

784
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:58,259
[applause]

785
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:08,800
» Allison Kathy,
>> welcome. Thank you.

786
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:16,400
» My name is Allison Kathy. I live at 501
Hill Road, uh, Kingsport 37

787
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:21,679
664. Sorry. Um, I would like to ask a
clarifying question from uh uh

788
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:26,640
Commissioner STDM. You said that the
cameras would be disabled. What exactly

789
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:32,320
does that mean? I'm a little concerned
uh because I know in some cities those

790
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:38,400
cameras have been disabled but not taken
down and after the Nancy Guthrie issue

791
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:46,159
where a lot of questions were raised as
to why they were still able to access

792
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:51,040
data uh new data even though she was no
longer signed up for Nest cameras they

793
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,040
were still able I'm just wondering are
the you know what does disabling really

794
01:11:53,920 --> 01:12:00,159
entail handle.
>> The uh cables have been disconnected so

795
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:02,159
that there's no feed off of the cameras.
>> Okay.

796
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:06,800
» So, they're totally disabled.
>> Okay. I was I was coming to to voice my

797
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:10,000
concern about the plot cameras, but
y'all seem to have taken care of it. And

798
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:13,585
thank you very much for doing that.
>> Thank you for being here, man.

799
01:12:11,565 --> 01:12:13,585
[applause]

800
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:17,800
» Mark Blizzard.

801
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,000
» Welcome, sir.
>> Thank you.

802
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:28,640
» Thank you for being here.
Let me [clears throat] Mark Blizzard 334

803
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:35,040
Red Bud Laneville.
Um, first let me thank the commission

804
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:41,199
and and the staff because I know this is
a tough job and it's often a thankless

805
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:45,840
job and uh [clears throat] I want to
thank you all for doing what you do

806
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:50,560
because it's not easy. I have a little
bit I experience to draw on. I was

807
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:57,360
chairman of the Southern County Planning
Commission about 40 years ago.

808
01:12:53,280 --> 01:13:06,560
And uh I was here when they uh first
enacted zoning in so

809
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:10,480
uh that was quite an interesting period.
You want to hear about those nightmares?

810
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:15,120
I can share that with you someday. But
uh I I got a taste of what it must be

811
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:22,080
like to do what you do. So just want to
thank you. Uh I'm [clears throat] here

812
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:27,840
in support of uh the resolution to uh
use some of the lodging tax money to

813
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:33,280
fund the historic building repairs.
Uh we uh I'm here as president of the

814
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,719
Ralph Lizard Traditional Music
Association.

815
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,159
We're located in the Henderson
Townhouse.

816
01:13:38,026 --> 01:13:45,920
» [clears throat]
>> We've been holding open free the public

817
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:51,920
jams over there for over three decades
now. And so we've got the staying power

818
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:57,040
and we've got the draw and we've got a
museum. We've had it for five years. Uh

819
01:13:55,199 --> 01:14:02,800
we had we have people from all over the
country coming in there. Uh foreign

820
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:09,120
countries just the last few months,
Argentina and France.

821
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:14,880
Um, our Facebook page gets over a
million and a half views a year. Uh,

822
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:21,920
500,000 of those are outside of this
area and [clears throat] about 75,000

823
01:14:18,719 --> 01:14:30,400
are outside the country. So, we have a
tourism draw potential and all that's

824
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:35,520
really with no promotional effort. Uh,
so it's it would be a good use of the

825
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:39,600
tourism money to do some of the work
that needs to be done on the Anderson

826
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:45,840
townhouse to kind of keep us in
business. I give you an example. We

827
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:51,840
we've been trying to get some funds
to improve the heating and ventilation

828
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:58,800
and air conditioning for years and we
haven't been able to. And um people in

829
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:06,239
our jam started having to leave early
because they were getting respiratory

830
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:11,280
problems, sore throats, and so they come
play an hour or two and they leave

831
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:17,520
because of those problems. Well, now we
found out that there's mold in the

832
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:22,800
Anderson townhouse. So it has been
closed and the mold is there because we

833
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:28,960
never got the heating and ventilation
and air conditioning

834
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:35,920
corrected. So by not funding along the
way, we basically additional problems.

835
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:40,880
So now we have mold remediation to build
this. So anyway, that's just one

836
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:46,000
example. [clears throat] and these
buildings. Um,

837
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:51,920
nobody else has these. We're the it's
one of a kind. There's no one else.

838
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:56,239
And one of these days, you know, there's
going to be people, you know, our

839
01:15:53,760 --> 01:16:00,800
children, our grandchildren are going to
want to be able to visit these places

840
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:04,880
and we've got people from outside the
area, tourists want to come in to visit

841
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:13,040
and we need to keep them in a condition
that they can be utilized.

842
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:20,000
Uh in addition to the uh tourism draw,
uh we also um uh helped start a youth

843
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:24,880
music instruction program at Sullivan
Central Middle School. It's called

844
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:30,560
Junior. It's Junior Appalache Musicians.
It's its own nonprofit [clears throat]

845
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:34,960
and it provides lowc cost music
instruction and traditional music and

846
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:40,320
streamed instruments
at a very low cost after school grades 4

847
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:44,800
through 12. Let everybody know that
program exists because there's a lot of

848
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:50,880
people not taking advantage of it. Uh
it's a great program. They've got over

849
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:56,159
60 of these programs in seven southern
states and uh [clears throat] which is

850
01:16:53,360 --> 01:17:03,040
highly rated and the youth element is a
big part of our community outreach and

851
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:08,800
we actually um just recently received
some uh grant funding from Tensy Arts

852
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:13,920
Commission. Uh [clears throat] and part
of it be used to add another program if

853
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:18,640
you can take advantage of in the
townhouse.

854
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:24,800
Uh but um we'll continue to work on
that. [clears throat] We also have an

855
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:30,880
event from that uh commission of that
grant money uh partially funding uh an

856
01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:34,800
event for for that organization and
we're working with Birthplace Country

857
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:39,600
Music to plan that event for next
spring.

858
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:46,159
Uh we started a welcome center jam
session once a month at the uh

859
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:50,159
Interstate 81 Tennessee welcome center.
People coming in off the road just love

860
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:56,560
to come in and they get experience
exposed to that live music which

861
01:17:53,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Tennessee is a music state. So, uh,
that's another tourism outreach that we

862
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:06,800
do and hopefully we'll be able to
provide some [clears throat] students

863
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:12,320
from we work ETSU the, uh, Oldtown
Bluegrass and Roots music program. We

864
01:18:09,679 --> 01:18:17,040
bring them. We actually um received some
funding from the archives of tourism

865
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:22,239
last year and we took some of those
students to a couple of the elementary

866
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:26,320
schools in Sen County and they played
for the assembly of the kids. The kids

867
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:30,000
love it. They just absolutely love it.
So Mr. Blizzard, you can wrap it up.

868
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:34,560
» So there's a lot of good things that we
can we can do and we can continue to do

869
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:39,679
that. It's good for tourism and for the
community and appreciate it if you help

870
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:45,400
fund the building restoration.
>> Thank Thank you, Mark.

871
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,400
» Next up is Victoria HS.

872
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:58,239
» Welcome.
>> Hello. After last time, y'all never know

873
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:06,320
what I'm going to look like when I come
in here. My name is Victoria Hun. I live

874
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:13,760
at 4257 Rockold Road. My question is,
if you can withdraw item 12, how can you

875
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:19,520
vote for item 10?
The argument last week was this is

876
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:23,480
tracking us.
We don't need block cameras.

877
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:32,080
But when you get these, the first screen
that pops up, brand new phone, what is

878
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:36,640
it? terms of service and agreement
if you read that contract. If you don't

879
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:41,040
read that contract, that's on you. But
you are agreeing to what they can follow

880
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:45,120
on you.
And as far as that is confirmed for item

881
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:53,280
12.
Just because I agreed to those items on

882
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:57,920
that contract does not mean I give the
federal government and Som County

883
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:04,480
Sheriff's Department the authorization
to get into my phone. I've read over

884
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:10,719
item 10. It's very vague. It doesn't
tell me what warrants them to get my

885
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:17,600
information. Is it a warrant? Is it
because I'm arrested? What is it?

886
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:21,199
It doesn't tell me what information they
can obtain.

887
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:27,840
Is it just pictures? Is it text
messages? Also, I don't know. So, before

888
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:35,120
you vote on item number 10, you also
need to be more specific.

889
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:39,199
On a personal note, to all of you that
are leaving,

890
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:44,640
I wish you the best on all your
endeavors.

891
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:50,000
Many of you will be missed.
And I I'm sorry. I'm going to start

892
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:52,950
blowing your phone up more now.
>> Thank you.

893
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,970
» Thank you.
[applause]

894
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:02,239
» Without objection, that brings us to the
end of agenda related items and next

895
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:06,760
order is non-aggenda related items.
Invite Christy Burke.

896
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,760
» Welcome. [clears throat]
Welcome.

897
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:16,640
» Hi, good evening. My name is Christy
Burke and I live at 1135 Pit Loop and I

898
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:20,320
am running to represent Tennessee's
first congressional district in the US

899
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:24,880
House of Representatives which includes
Sullivan County. In February of this

900
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:29,040
year, I watched citizens pack this room
asking this board to reject cooperation

901
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:32,239
with ICE. And then I watched you shut
down public comments and approve an

902
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:37,040
agreement with the federal government.
Anyway, there is a sickness in American

903
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:40,640
politics right now, causing elected
officials at every level to forget who

904
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:44,480
put them in these positions of
influence. It is time for us all to

905
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:49,840
remember that lobbyists and powerful
families do not call the shots around

906
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:53,840
here. The people, these people are your
boss and the people are paying attention

907
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:58,320
to what is happening in Sullivan County.
This year, one man put thousands of

908
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:02,880
dollars into multiple local races while
running for a seat himself. That same

909
01:22:00,719 --> 01:22:06,800
man previously served four years in
federal prison after pleading guilty to

910
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:12,000
pharmaceutical fraud and then he
received a presidential pardon. Soon he

911
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:16,400
will be seated on this commission.
Understand that the people are watching.

912
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:20,800
They are watching the money. They are
watching the votes and they are watching

913
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:24,159
who listens to them and who does not.
It's easy to make headlines by

914
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:28,480
suggesting that the CEO of a
surveillance company should be publicly

915
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:33,440
executed.
as one of your members did recently. But

916
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:36,800
where was this outreach six months ago?
Having courage means standing up to

917
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:40,960
power when it actually costs you
something. So tonight and every day

918
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:46,320
forward, honor the voices of the
Sullivan County residents. If they want

919
01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:50,800
you to reject block, continue to reject
block and reject any government

920
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:54,719
sanctioned violations of Americans
fourth amendment rights to privacy. Do

921
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:59,440
whatever it takes to break this county's
ties to the company and to these

922
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:04,080
cameras. And one last thing about
powerful families here in Sullivan

923
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:09,760
County. Congresswoman Diana Harshburgger
is my opponent this coming November.

924
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:13,760
Sullivan is her home county. Diana and I
are now asking these people for the same

925
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:18,639
job and they deserve to hear from both
of us. No more hiding from the people

926
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:24,800
that you were elected to serve. It is
time for a debate right here in Sullivan

927
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:28,159
County. Anytime, any place. Let's put
our records and our visions of East

928
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:32,400
Tennessee in front of the people and let
them decide. Earlier this week in Carter

929
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:36,159
County, Diana told a group of women that
she couldn't remember my name. I believe

930
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:41,040
that she lied about that and I think she
knows my name very well. But just in

931
01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:45,600
case, I'd like to remind her. My name is
Christy Burke and on November 3rd, I am

932
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:48,800
coming for her seat
because I believe that our neighbors in

933
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:53,360
Sullivan County and all across the
Congressional District have had enough.

934
01:23:51,199 --> 01:24:00,338
But Diana, if you forget my name again
after November 3rd, you can just call me

935
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:00,338
Congresswoman. Thank you. [applause]

936
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:05,560
» Jay Bowolf.

937
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:24,080
» Good evening, sir.
>> Good evening. Jay Ela, 449 Lakeshore

938
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:32,080
Road. Uh, wow. [clears throat] Following
that one, um, about a year ago, uh, your

939
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:39,040
commission, uh, led a coalition of, uh,
county and cities to, uh, bring an

940
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:45,360
airline into, um, Tri Cities Airport.
Um, that was Breeze Airways. And it was

941
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:52,400
determined that you needed to subsidize
Breeze Airways. And the subsidy that you

942
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:57,520
guys did was $10,000 a month from
Sullivan County. [cough] And together

943
01:24:54,800 --> 01:25:02,400
with the other seven counties and
cities, uh you subsidize them to the

944
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:10,239
tune of a million dollars a year for two
years. Uh they basically had two routes,

945
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:15,760
one to Washington DC and one to Orlando,
Florida. They recently announced that

946
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:23,120
they are going to be terminating their
um Washington DC route on November 30th.

947
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:28,320
So it did not last a year. Um I Googled
stuff and saw that because of the

948
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:33,440
agreement and the way it was signed that
the um Washington route does not have to

949
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:41,120
be paid for next year. So you can get
the money back. Um, what I would like to

950
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:46,560
see is John Rose, who is the CEO of
Bridge, brought in here and explain what

951
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:53,120
he plans to do with the money next year
because I think Breeze Airways has

952
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:57,520
violated their agreement by cancing this
and that Salt County and the other

953
01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:03,840
counties and cities should basically not
have to commit to pay Airways next year

954
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:10,159
because they're not living up to their
commitment.

955
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:15,920
in Tri Cities's airport. Um, and I want
to personally applaud you for the fact

956
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:23,199
that you're trying to uh do economic
growth to this community and to the

957
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:29,040
airport, but economic growth is a
double-edged sword. You have to be very

958
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:35,280
careful on what you're wishing for. Um,
when I first moved to Orange County,

959
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:40,480
California in 1987,
we had three airports and I did a lot of

960
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:46,239
business travel for the company I worked
for, McDonald. We had LAX, which was a

961
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:51,280
nightmare, and we had Orange County and
Burbank, which were small airports.

962
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:56,800
Because of population growth and
everything else that's happened, those

963
01:26:53,600 --> 01:27:02,239
airports are now monster airports with
20 to 30 gates and they're difficult to

964
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:07,280
park at. They're difficult to get into.
They've got luggage concerns and

965
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:13,120
everything else. Tri Cities is a very
nice small airport. When I first came

966
01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:19,600
here in 2019,
I landed, I got my luggage and I was in

967
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:25,679
my rental car in a half an hour.
I have flown all over this country and

968
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:29,920
parts of the world. I have never been in
my rental car in less than an hour and a

969
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:33,040
half to two hours.
>> Mr. B, that's your your three minutes.

970
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:38,880
You can make the closing statement.
>> Okay. We

971
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:43,600
have to be careful on what you wish for
and you don't know how good you have it

972
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:47,520
here with a small airport that's very
easy to get in and out of. Thank you.

973
01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:53,639
» Thank you, sir.
>> That completes the list. Is there anyone

974
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,639
that wishes to address the commission?

975
01:27:54,080 --> 01:28:00,639
» You'll be held to the public comment
rules of uh I'll give you three minutes.

976
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:03,360
Commissioner Car.
>> Commissioner Car, if you'll introduce

977
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,840
yourself.
I don't think I need any introduction

978
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,159
after last week.
>> Oh, just for the clerk's electronic

979
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:12,719
record.
>> My name is uh Joe Carr Sullivan County

980
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:18,560
Commissioner District 9. I live at 408
Berkeley Road, Kingsport, Tennessee. Uh

981
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:21,679
on a side note there, the the woman the
Democratic nominee for Congress. I've

982
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:26,320
already forgotten her name, but it seems
like she's upset that I get more

983
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:31,679
headlines than she does. Uh anyways, uh
I would like to thank Sheriff Jeff

984
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:36,080
Cassidy, our wonderful sheriff, for his
bold and outstanding leadership in

985
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:40,320
getting rid of these cameras. I would
also like to thank future state

986
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:43,440
representative Gary STDM for bringing
the resolution forward. It has been an

987
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:47,520
honor serving with you the past four
years, sir. Over the past week, my

988
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:51,840
comments have been viewed by millions of
people all across the country, and the

989
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:57,280
verdict by the American people is quite
clear. They are tired of being spied on

990
01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:02,000
by their government. Our county and our
state are leading the country on this

991
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:07,360
issue. That is why next month I will be
proposing the first ever trigger law

992
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:10,480
regarding all ALP cameras here in
Sullivan County. That means that the

993
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:14,239
moment that we are legally allowed to do
so by either the state legislature or

994
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:19,040
Congress, Sullivan County will ban all
ALPRs, preventing any public or private

995
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:23,440
entity from using them. Thank you all
for this attention to this matter. Thank

996
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:27,679
you, Commissioner Carr. Does anyone else
from the audience wish to seek the wish

997
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:31,280
to address the commission? You'll be
held to the 3minut rule, sir.

998
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:35,960
» Yes, sir.
>> Any anyone else before we get too far

999
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,960
along?

1000
01:29:38,266 --> 01:29:41,040
[clears throat]
>> Just now recognized you.

1001
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:47,440
» Sorry. [laughter]
I'm Ken Austin, 2978 Island Road,

1002
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:53,440
Bonville, Tennessee. Um, I just wanted
to uh congratulate the winners of the

1003
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:58,800
last election and commend those that
served and those that participated. And

1004
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:02,719
uh
but uh a bit of good news that I had.

1005
01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:07,719
Well, one thing about the uh election,
we had a couple of scary incidents.

1006
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:07,719
There's one over here in Blurb

1007
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:14,159
and drove between the tents and went
straight in and loaded. But nothing

1008
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:19,280
going to stop her from voting. She did.
do a good job. Uh but the scariest thing

1009
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:23,360
was we were all talking to each other
and coming to find out a lot of us are

1010
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:28,800
gross [clears throat]
kind of scary for us. Um but I have some

1011
01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:33,600
good news. Uh I belong to Pipers Local
5308 in Johnson City. We're part of the

1012
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:38,480
UA which has 410,000 members in the US
and Canada and over 2100 signatory

1013
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:44,639
businesses. We recruited a business to
the area to set up a fabrication shop.

1014
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:49,920
Couldn't find anything in S County large
enough to accommodate them, but we found

1015
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:57,360
one in Rogersville was 200,000 square
feet manufacturing room. They ordered 80

1016
01:30:54,080 --> 01:31:00,880
welding machines. Uh and starting in
October, once they get the building

1017
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:06,400
acclimated to what they want to do, they
have uh

1018
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:11,120
plans for between 100 and 150 pipe
fitters and welders. Uh these are pretty

1019
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:18,080
good jobs. Uh if you work 40 hours a
week there, you grows uh just under

1020
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:21,360
$90,000 a year plus your benefits on top
of it. The company will pay for your

1021
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:26,719
health insurance for you and your family
and for you and contribute to the

1022
01:31:24,159 --> 01:31:30,960
national defined benefit pension. If
they work the schedule schedule with 610

1023
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:35,280
and an eighth
at the end of the year they work that

1024
01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:40,159
for a year that be uh be close to
180,000 a year. That's pretty good for

1025
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:47,280
around here. We try to get it in soul
county. We're still going to constantly

1026
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:52,320
uh recruit our signatory businesses to
get them in here. To us, this is how you

1027
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:56,800
expand your tax base.
Good jobs. They come back and spend the

1028
01:31:54,560 --> 01:32:02,400
money in the area and your businesses
and pay taxes. But anyway, I just wanted

1029
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:08,239
to thank everybody for being good to us
during the campaign. Uh we appreciate it

1030
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,800
and uh God bless you all and God bless
all the county.

1031
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:16,159
» Thank you, Mr. Osborne. Always always
love him here, sir. [applause]

1032
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:18,239
Before I close it out, anyone else?
Before I close it out, is there anyone

1033
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,880
else?
>> Yeah, I got some.

1034
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:30,320
» You will introduce yourself. Uh, name
and address. Thank you, sir.

1035
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:36,159
» Yes, sir. My name is David Barnes on 310
Road. I've uh read across social media

1036
01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:40,560
where Halloween is going to be the day
where flock cameras are going to be

1037
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:45,520
taken down. I was just letting y'all
know because there's rumors of of them

1038
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:51,760
going to be doing that and I just wanted
to know um

1039
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:58,400
they're going to be left up I'm sure.
>> Is there anyone that can address that

1040
01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:03,440
» cuz third party can tap into them?
>> Yeah,

1041
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:07,440
» Mr.
there there will be no tapping into them

1042
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:09,360
because they are completely taken
offline.

1043
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:15,760
» Okay.
>> I'm sure the company will be coming to

1044
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:20,480
pick them up sooner or later. Uh and any
anybody going out to damage something

1045
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:23,480
else that doesn't belong to them. That's
vandalism.

1046
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:30,719
» Yeah.
>> What's up on social media? The rumors

1047
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:34,880
going around. I just give you all a
heads up. Thank you. Thank you very

1048
01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:40,239
much.
That brings us to the end of the list.

1049
01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:45,520
There's no objection. Public comment
portion of the agenda is closed.

1050
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:52,320
Our next order of business is consent
calendar.

1051
01:33:47,520 --> 01:34:03,520
Items on the consent calendar are 4 5 6
7 8 10 13 15 16 and 17. Consent calendar

1052
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:09,040
requires unanimous consent. Are there
any items anyone wishes to bump off or

1053
01:34:06,719 --> 01:34:12,040
are there any items anyone wishes to add
to

1054
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:28,639
» Mr. Crossw.
>> Thank you, Chairman.

1055
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:34,880
I've got 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26,
27, and 28. These are all from the

1056
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:40,000
school department. They are either um
budget transfers or grants that have no

1057
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:43,360
matching money or reimbursements.
I'd like to put this on, this is the

1058
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:47,199
first time we've seen it. I'd like to
put this on the consent calendar unless

1059
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:51,120
you all want to hear it all. None of
them are new money or matching funds.

1060
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:55,040
They're all
>> reimbursements as well.

1061
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:58,400
» Matching funds
for reimbursements.

1062
01:34:56,480 --> 01:35:04,880
» Is there any objection to adding these
items to the consent calendar

1063
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:08,639
» for the for the uh course electronic
records? If we could read those one more

1064
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:25,639
time.
>> The numbers again. 19 20 21 22 23

1065
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:25,639
24 25 26 27 and 28.

1066
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,639
» Is there any objection?

1067
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:36,080
Objection. 19 through 28 are at. Does
anyone else seek recognition?

1068
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:41,120
» 2930.
Commissioner Lock moves 29 and 30 to the

1069
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:47,679
consent calendar. What are those, sir?
>> That's a transfer from school board

1070
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:52,280
sheriff's office
and uh it's a budget transfer

1071
01:35:53,760 --> 01:36:00,639
to grant no new match funding.
>> So those are

1072
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:04,920
» so those are one's a transfer and one's
a grant. There's no demand.

1073
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:12,440
Anyone object to 29 and 30 being added
to the consent calendar

1074
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:20,040
got this
entertain

1075
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:25,480
uh 31 grand money

1076
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:36,280
ran low on uh this year and we're having
$65,550

1077
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:43,280
transition transfer
>> transferring from one line to the other.

1078
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:48,040
Anyone have any objection to item 31? 31
being added to the consent calendar.

1079
01:36:50,719 --> 01:36:54,760
I've got one more number.

1080
01:37:09,119 --> 01:37:15,000
» You can read those, Madam Clerks, and we
can make sure we got them on.

1081
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:41,400
Consent agenda items four, five, 6, 7,
8, 10, 13, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22,

1082
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:41,400
23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 30.

1083
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:49,679
Is there entertain a motion for the
consent calendar?

1084
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:52,239
» Motion to approve consent calendar by
Commissioner Acre, second by

1085
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:57,440
Commissioner Countton. Any further
discussion on consent calendar requiring

1086
01:37:54,560 --> 01:38:01,159
unanimous consent? When the board opens,
please cast your vote.

1087
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:14,119
requiring unanimous consent.

1088
01:38:16,639 --> 01:38:22,000
» Has every member voted? Has any member
wish to change the [laughter] vote?

1089
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:26,159
Madam clerk,
>> 22 yes, two absent.

1090
01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:32,280
» Thank you, madam clerk. Having received
the necessary majority of the votes

1091
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:32,280
cast, the consent calendar is approved.

1092
01:38:34,159 --> 01:38:40,880
Next order, review of resolutions under
old business.

1093
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:45,840
Uh,
Mr. Ward.

1094
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:48,840
Never mind. Take your old business
first.

1095
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:55,600
If you'll hit if you'll hit your button
again, Mr.

1096
01:38:52,639 --> 01:39:00,000
» Mr. Stum, item number one. Thank you,
Mr. Chairman. Uh, this resolution is

1097
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:08,800
going to be wrote into September and the
new sponsor of it will be Joe Carr.

1098
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:14,600
» Thank you, Commissioner St. Sponsor.
defers item number one to the September

1099
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,600
calendar.

1100
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:20,400
» All right.
>> Okay.

1101
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:23,960
» All right. Fell,
>> which one's next?

1102
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:29,360
» Is item two?
>> Recognize Commissioner Crosswide on item

1103
01:39:28,159 --> 01:39:33,920
number two.
>> All those on the consent. It's been hard

1104
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:37,440
to keep up with. Commissioner Crosswide.
>> Thank you, Chairman.

1105
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:41,520
like put this on consent, too, because
this is not any taxpayer money.

1106
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:44,960
» We've already approved the consent
calendar.

1107
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:54,000
» I tried I tried, guys. Okay. Uh this
money, this $100,000 I wait everyone

1108
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:57,000
had this list that wrong list. It'sund
and

1109
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:05,280
overund
30 something,000.

1110
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:10,480
We did have Steve Wilson come in. He's
an architect.

1111
01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:16,880
He did a professional assessment
here. But it's going to take $130,000

1112
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:23,080
just to fix the things that aren't
really covered in the Anderson outside.

1113
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,080
Thank Mr.

1114
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:31,600
Wizard. Thank you.
We've had to shut that building down

1115
01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:37,760
because it has
in it. That's going to cost $75,000.

1116
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:43,960
So, there is a grant coming up. I think
it is open sand. We're going to need

1117
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,960
every bit of that. So,

1118
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:52,159
we need the full 130.
And I would appreciate your vote. Let's

1119
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:57,239
keep these buildings.
Let's keep them for our future for our

1120
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:57,239
children.

1121
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,840
This is on waiver.

1122
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:05,840
» You heard the explanation of item number
two. The floor is open for discussion.

1123
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:12,639
Recognize Commissioner Means.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, is Mr. Mark

1124
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:16,560
Blizzard still here? Do you know
>> he had spoke about another youth

1125
01:41:14,719 --> 01:41:22,360
program? I just didn't know. Do you
happen to know what he's talking about

1126
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,360
that they apply for?

1127
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:30,000
» I know that one. One of my one of my
sons was involved in that one. I just

1128
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:35,440
didn't know he had mentioned another
type of program and I just thought I'd

1129
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:39,880
ask if he knew a grant through the
commission of arts.

1130
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,880
» Yes.

1131
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:55,440
» Okay. Um, well, my only issue is the the
process and obviously it's not going to

1132
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:59,280
get cleared up tonight. I think I've
been very clear about me being a big

1133
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:05,280
advocate and cheerleader of this
downtown. And so, um, I just I needed to

1134
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:10,480
make that statement that I believe we
need to try to to clear up a process in

1135
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:15,360
the future because we've got lots of
historical buildings within Sullivan

1136
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:22,639
County. and I got an email from a
constituent asking about Netherland and

1137
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:28,400
» yeah so um you I think this is a good
first step but um I also would like to

1138
01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:32,400
just I don't know if this is in the
works you might know this or some of the

1139
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:35,600
folks you've been involved in thank you
for what you've been doing Pam and all

1140
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:42,719
the things y'all been doing over the
years but um I really love what they're

1141
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:48,080
doing at the exchange place and uh I
just just as a citizen, I would just

1142
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:54,800
love to see something similar to that
come into this area to ex to truly

1143
01:42:51,520 --> 01:43:00,080
expound on that. So, we need to take
care of all our historical

1144
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:04,880
buildings. We are rich in this area. We
truly rich, but Kingsport, they have

1145
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:09,199
funds. This is this will be coming out
of local funds. Kingsport has funds and

1146
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:14,639
Bristol has funds. So, this will be
strictly local and I'll be more glad to

1147
01:43:11,679 --> 01:43:18,560
work with Kingsport in Bristol too to
make sure they can or one of the

1148
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:24,000
Kingsport commissioners can ask for
money from their we need to take care of

1149
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:26,960
this. We're setting on we're setting on
a wealth of history here.

1150
01:43:26,639 --> 01:43:30,560
» Yes.
>> And we need to take care of it.

1151
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:35,520
» So that was what I was kind of circling
back to that question is I was wondering

1152
01:43:32,239 --> 01:43:39,840
if that new um application that program
that he was speaking about if it was any

1153
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:45,360
relation to something similar to what
Exchange Place does. Does anybody know

1154
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:52,040
that qu the answer to that? No. Okay.
All right. Thank you.

1155
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,040
» Commissioner,

1156
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:57,040
» did you cut your mic off? Commissioner
still.

1157
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:59,920
» Yes, Mr. Chair.
>> Commissioner Cross. I think I didn't cut

1158
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:04,239
it off.
>> Thank you, Chair. This is just a point

1159
01:44:01,440 --> 01:44:08,400
of order. This is on old business. It's
not waver. So, that should mean Is am I

1160
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:14,000
correct in saying this has been read
once?

1161
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:16,320
So it's 13 votes for passage, not w
>> I'm sorry.

1162
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:20,719
» You introduced this the first time a
month ago, correct? So it's this is on

1163
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:23,840
it's not Weber roads.
>> Okay.

1164
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,360
» I just appreciate all of you vote for
this.

1165
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:32,719
» Thank you.
>> Commissioner I just want to say that uh

1166
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:36,880
I was on that board three years ago. The
same list actually less of the list

1167
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:41,440
that's that we're given tonight was
$95,000

1168
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:46,239
I think. Now we're at $139,000 for less
of the same thing. So the longer we kick

1169
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:50,239
this can the the longer I mean I'm not
I'm not opposed to what we're doing. It

1170
01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:53,440
should bring tourism in but we just need
to take care of snow.

1171
01:44:51,520 --> 01:45:00,000
» We need to go ahead and fix it before it
gets more expensive and we got to save

1172
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:03,760
these buildings. Let's just start. Let's
just start.

1173
01:45:03,137 --> 01:45:07,679
[clears throat]
>> You heard anyone else seek recognition?

1174
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:11,920
Commissioner Crosslight renews her
motion for passage of item number two.

1175
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:17,000
When the board opens, please cast your
vote on item number two, requiring 13

1176
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,000
votes for passage.

1177
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:33,040
Has every member voted? Does any member
wish to change their vote? Madam clerk,

1178
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:35,840
» 22 yes, two absent.
>> Thank you, madam clerk. Having received

1179
01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:41,760
the necessary majority of the votes
cast, item number two is adopted.

1180
01:45:39,679 --> 01:45:45,800
Next order, recognize Commissioner
Harvey. Item number three.

1181
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:54,560
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When I ran for
this commission seat four years ago, I

1182
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:59,600
knocked on hundreds of doors and at each
one of those doors, I introduced myself

1183
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:04,719
as a Christian. I believe this one word
told them what my core values and

1184
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:09,840
principles were and how my decisions and
my votes as a Selma County Commissioner

1185
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:14,480
should align with those core values.
This resolution to help feed our Solomon

1186
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:20,159
County school children who have been
identified as food insecure and

1187
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:26,400
chronically hungry comes down to two
words, God's love. Love overcomes

1188
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:32,480
division and unites people in purpose
and mission. The depth and width of our

1189
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:37,920
love for others simply comes from God's
love in us. I hope that our vote tonight

1190
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:42,698
to support this resolution to assist in
feeding hungry children in Selwin County

1191
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:46,040
will be a witness of God's love.
[clears throat] Thank you.

1192
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:54,840
» Heard explanation on item number three.
Four is open for discussion on item

1193
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,840
number three and one seek recognition.

1194
01:46:55,520 --> 01:47:02,480
Commissioner Cal.
>> Thank you, Chair. I would like to be

1195
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:06,199
added as a co-sponsor.
>> Anyone else seek recognition?

1196
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:12,480
» Commissioner Harvey. Everyone voting in
the affirmative be all right to add them

1197
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:21,080
as a co-sponsor. Everyone voting in the
affirmative added as a co-sponsor. Thank

1198
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:21,080
you. Anyone else seek recognition?

1199
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:31,960
Without objection, when the board opens,
please cast your vote on item number

1200
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:31,960
three, requiring 13 votes for passage.

1201
01:47:40,159 --> 01:47:46,400
Has every member voted?
Does any member wish to change their

1202
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:52,719
vote?
Madam clerk,

1203
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:56,480
» 20 yes, two no, two absent.
>> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Having received

1204
01:47:54,159 --> 01:48:01,400
the necessary majority of the votes
cast, item number three is adopted.

1205
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:10,320
That brings us to the end of our old
business. Under new business, we

1206
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:13,480
recognize Commissioner Cole on item
number nine.

1207
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:23,679
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This resolution
is to appropriate $100,000 for the

1208
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:29,440
operation, maintenance, staffing, and
improvement of the Blunt Athletics

1209
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:35,760
Facility. I thought Mr. Bailis gave us a
great presentation last week.

1210
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:40,080
So, I would like to ask waver rules for
this and just thank you all. Let's

1211
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:46,000
provide opportunities for our children's
families and keep them on the field.

1212
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:48,639
» You've heard the explanation of item
number nine

1213
01:48:46,639 --> 01:48:51,199
» and everyone voting in the affirmative
be added as a co-sponsor.

1214
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,960
» Thank you, sir. You've heard the
explanation for item number nine. The

1215
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:58,719
floor is open for discussion. Sponsor
moves waiver of rules requiring 16 votes

1216
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:01,679
for passage. Recognize Commissioner
Irish.

1217
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,960
» Michael
had a person ask me a day question I

1218
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:09,040
couldn't answer so I got asked tonight
to make sure where we're at on it. the

1219
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:13,040
funding of this didn't make it in the
budget. We talked about that and TJ was

1220
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:17,119
here, I believe, I believe it was TJ was
his name, was here last week talking

1221
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:22,480
about what he's going to do and his
ideas. Um, is this TJ's budget and one

1222
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:29,199
additional or is this an additional
person beyond TJ's budget? And I mean,

1223
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:34,239
» this will be in his budget. It will fall
under him, his longtime employee.

1224
01:49:32,239 --> 01:49:38,480
So, we're going to have TJ and a
full-timer and a part-timer. Or is the

1225
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:45,119
full-timer TJ?
>> Fulltime TJ, fulltime, part time.

1226
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:49,199
» Okay. So,
I guess my concern, we showed a couple

1227
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:53,600
things about money and what we're going
to be making of things. Uh, we knew when

1228
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:57,760
we did the fields that were going to
have needed scheduling. We did an online

1229
01:49:56,400 --> 01:50:03,840
program for that. We got a lot of that
stuff going on.

1230
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:10,159
Um, if TJ's not in this, then we're
probably north of $160,000

1231
01:50:06,639 --> 01:50:16,080
of employee cost for that, about $3,000
a week. I'm kind of concerned that

1232
01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:19,520
it seems like a pretty big step. I mean,
I understand that TJ says are very busy

1233
01:50:17,679 --> 01:50:24,560
and I understand that and I want to make
sure we do everything we can for our

1234
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:28,800
citizens here, but um I'm trying to wrap
my head around adding two ball fields

1235
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:31,679
and a gym and pickle ball courts is two
and a half people.

1236
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,840
» I don't know if this will help or answer
the question is what Mr. Bailey gave me

1237
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:40,239
when he said this would work.
>> No, no, I understand. I'm not I'm not

1238
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:46,719
trying to because I know you're scary. I
I get that. But but two and a half

1239
01:50:42,639 --> 01:50:53,360
people to do a couple of ball fields
that aren't used full-time weekend

1240
01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:56,560
coverage mostly. And I'm just concerned
about that. It seems like a significant

1241
01:50:55,119 --> 01:51:00,080
amount because I knew when we went in
that we first started talking about the

1242
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:03,600
park and all the expansion we're going
to do at the park, we knew we were going

1243
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:07,760
to have to hire somebody. That was a
given. We were going to hire somebody

1244
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:13,840
» and we hired TJ.
So hiring another person and a half,

1245
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:18,880
it just seems like a lot a lot of
employee cost for

1246
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:22,239
of ball fields and pickle ball court. So
just just concerned about that because

1247
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:25,280
that's this is not saying onetime money
onetime money now, but it won't roll

1248
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:29,440
into the budget next year.
>> So

1249
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:32,400
that's rejuring cost. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1250
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:36,639
» I'm concerned about that. That's pretty
high. I mean, even even the numbers that

1251
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:41,119
he showed us, this one tournament got
$4,200. Well, that's barely going to

1252
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:43,599
cover a normal week for what we're gonna
pay for.

1253
01:51:41,679 --> 01:51:49,760
» But he's just getting started, though.
So, I think you can make it work. I

1254
01:51:45,679 --> 01:51:56,560
really do if we get him to help.
If not, can we revisit it? And

1255
01:51:53,840 --> 01:52:00,199
let's revisit it.
want to make that compliment

1256
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:05,440
recognize Commissioner Vanover and
Commissioner Crossw.

1257
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:10,960
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll try to
answer try to help answer some of those

1258
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:17,119
questions. U Mr. Baylor's salary comes
out of the building maintenance budget.

1259
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:21,760
So, that's not on top of that. So, his
salary comes from a different budget.

1260
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:26,000
I'm sorry. And the reason that we didn't
put this in the budget was because it's

1261
01:52:23,440 --> 01:52:31,280
hopefully it's a one-time expenditure
and we don't like to put onetime

1262
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:35,280
expenditures in the budget. Hopefully
when the next budget cycle rolls around

1263
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:38,800
that it'll be self- sustaining and we
won't need to put this in the budget and

1264
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:42,920
it can be a one-time expenditure. So I
hope that answers some of those

1265
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,920
questions.

1266
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:48,480
» Mr. Crossw.
>> Thank you chairman. Sitting through

1267
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:53,599
these meetings one person cannot do
this. We we talked about ball fields.

1268
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:57,679
Ball fields. Well, there's gyms.
Those gyms [clears throat] they have to

1269
01:52:54,800 --> 01:53:02,800
take care of. Those ball fields have to
be just mowed a certain way. Um it's not

1270
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:09,360
like when we play, you know, you just
got hit in the face of a rock there. But

1271
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:16,880
I don't think this is unreasonable. And
like Mayor Manover said, $100,000 and

1272
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:21,360
that just don't make it a budget item.
Just give it to him now.

1273
01:53:18,719 --> 01:53:28,080
But I also think this is
a a part-time and then a seasonal also a

1274
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:34,239
seasonal worker full one full time and
one seasonal worker and been over there.

1275
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:42,719
It's a lot to take care of. So I think
we're on track one time but it's needed.

1276
01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:44,639
I truly believe it's needed. Thank you.
>> Commissioner Glover and Commissioner

1277
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:48,239
King.
>> Thank you Mr.

1278
01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:53,840
just voted on the resolution before to
give $50,000 onetime funding to an

1279
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:58,080
organization that's nonprofit that's got
30ome million dollars laying there and

1280
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:02,560
we're here worrying about giving the
kids that plays baseball and wants to

1281
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:08,560
play ball on this campus
not the same opportunity. Okay.

1282
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:13,119
I think u I think it's a good idea to
invest those kids have been through hell

1283
01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:16,400
the last year. You took their ball field
away from them up there. They didn't

1284
01:54:14,639 --> 01:54:20,400
have no work to play and parents had to
scatter them all over the county. Now

1285
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:25,040
they got an opportunity to come back and
grow and make a a positive impact on

1286
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:30,880
Bluntville
and investing what Michael was asking

1287
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:36,400
for in those kids that's going to affect
hundreds and hundreds of kids and

1288
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:43,760
families. It's it's it's not even an
option. I'm in 100% of it. I think it's

1289
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:47,599
needed. uh uh Michael and and his group
there. The reason it came in like it did

1290
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:53,760
was just didn't have time to get all the
stuff together beforehand and I think

1291
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:58,960
it's a a well worthwhile effort to help
those kids. Like I said, the the Blumble

1292
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:03,119
ball team, they didn't ask for their
ball field to be tore down and they

1293
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:07,679
didn't ask for all that. But this fell
here is like you said, he was there one

1294
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:11,920
night till 1:30 in the morning and
another night he was there till 12:30,

1295
01:55:09,679 --> 01:55:16,239
1:00. So to make a go that over, he's
going to have to ask and I'm 100% in

1296
01:55:14,239 --> 01:55:20,480
support of it.
>> Mr. King,

1297
01:55:18,239 --> 01:55:25,679
thanks chairman. Um I agree with what
Hersville says. Being involved with our

1298
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:30,880
a center, I know what it takes to to do
this stuff. And when you've got uh

1299
01:55:28,719 --> 01:55:37,199
programs at night, programs during the
day, you can't be there

1300
01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:42,239
20 hours, you know, a day. And you got
to have somebody there looking after it,

1301
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:47,760
making sure that, you know, there's no
vandalism going on, the programs are

1302
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:51,840
working, you know, and then you got to
do your contracts when people come in

1303
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:58,480
there to rent the place to do stuff.
Then, you know, hopefully we can get the

1304
01:55:54,159 --> 01:56:03,440
gym fixed and we're working on that to
get the bathrooms and get the gym or the

1305
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:09,920
cafeteria, I'm sorry, the cafeteria
fixed so we can rent it out. And that

1306
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:16,159
will be another uh avenue of revenue
coming in. And also in in those gyms,

1307
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:20,159
you know, um I don't think we're getting
a whole lot of money out of gyms right

1308
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:25,920
now, but that can change if we've got
somebody that will be there and see

1309
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:31,520
who's there, who's coming in, and set up
a program to where we're getting paid

1310
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:35,360
for the lights and utilities and
everything. We You got to do that. If

1311
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:41,920
you're going to keep these buildings and
keep these uh uh facilities up, you've

1312
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:46,239
got to do it. If you don't, they'll
going downhill and then, you know, we

1313
01:56:43,599 --> 01:56:51,280
wasted all this money. So, I'm in total
100% of this. I knew we was going to

1314
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:56,239
have to do it at some time. And now that
we've got all these ball games going on

1315
01:56:53,760 --> 01:57:00,719
there in the afternoons and then at
night, too, we going to have to have

1316
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:05,119
somebody there fulltime in the in the
daytime and at night time when those

1317
01:57:03,119 --> 01:57:09,599
programs are going on.
I'm in favor of

1318
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:16,159
» Commissioner Hopper.
>> Just uh if I did I understand that this

1319
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:20,159
was a one time expense this $100,000?
>> Yes.

1320
01:57:16,719 --> 01:57:26,560
» Well, and you expect that income off
this is going to supplement over the

1321
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:33,840
year for the $100,000 plus. Now, are we
including in this um utility cost,

1322
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:37,599
electricity, water, etc.
That that's supposed to be with

1323
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:41,040
hopefully what we can generate
>> off what you can generate.

1324
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:45,040
» Yes. The tournaments brought in. You
remember last week, Mr. Bis?

1325
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:50,080
» Well, you're going to try to start a
business basically and most businesses

1326
01:57:48,159 --> 01:57:58,239
don't start out unless you get enough
funding and resources, they don't do so

1327
01:57:53,840 --> 01:58:04,400
well. So, my concern is, have you
budgeted enough for what you anticipate

1328
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:07,199
doing? We'll
revisit.

1329
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:12,599
» So next year you'll come back for more.
>> Nothing.

1330
01:58:09,599 --> 01:58:12,599
» Okay.

1331
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:21,440
» Mr.
>> Thank you, Chairman. Um, no,

1332
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,480
Commissioner Iris is asking good
questions and the public should ask

1333
01:58:22,639 --> 01:58:30,080
these questions and I kind of relate it
to observation park. I was I was the

1334
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:34,480
cheerleader to get rid of that place
four or five years ago. But we got the

1335
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:38,159
right person in there and now it's
completely turned itself around. And

1336
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:44,000
that's what I look at this kind of
opportunity. I think TJ, Mr. Bis is

1337
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:49,199
seems to be the right person uh to be
there and um and yeah, it's not going to

1338
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:53,119
turn a profit like Commissioner Hopper
said the first year probably, but we got

1339
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:59,199
to get the right tool, give him the
tools to succeed. And so u that's why I

1340
01:58:56,639 --> 01:59:02,480
think as Commissioner King and Glover
said, it's it's the right thing to do.

1341
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:06,719
And I'm excited to see what we can do
there because we had a lot of meetings

1342
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:11,679
over there this past spring and that
place has been very wellreceived and so

1343
01:59:10,159 --> 01:59:17,599
it's been a great investment in the Bl
community and excited to go forward.

1344
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:22,800
» Commissioner Ms.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um I'm so

1345
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:28,159
excited about it. As you know, I I
believe we should be doing everything we

1346
01:59:24,719 --> 01:59:33,199
can for the kids in this town, but I do
want to when this was presented years

1347
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:39,760
ago, the
conversation was that costs were going

1348
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:49,040
to remain low for the lower income
um families also. Um is that still

1349
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:53,040
a goal of this county for this property?
because we talk about a profit and

1350
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:58,719
obviously we need to have some funds to
cover that but that's still a goal here.

1351
01:59:55,760 --> 02:00:02,880
» I'm sure Mr. Bis will work with
>> All right. Thank you.

1352
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:07,119
» And like I said, not to get off topic of
the resolution, but hopefully we'll have

1353
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:14,040
a farmer or venue venue as Commissioner
King said last week, we can have a venue

1354
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:14,040
in the near future. Thank you.

1355
02:00:14,159 --> 02:00:20,400
» Anyone else?
Commissioner Cole recognizing for a

1356
02:00:18,159 --> 02:00:23,199
final motion on item number nine.
>> I just appreciate your support.

1357
02:00:21,460 --> 02:00:25,840
[clears throat] Anybody voting will be
added.

1358
02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:30,560
» Waiver waiver of rules on
>> waiver of rules please. Yes.

1359
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:36,719
» Sponsor moves renews his motion for
waiver of rules on item number nine

1360
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:43,159
requiring 16 votes for passage. When the
board opens, please cast your vote on

1361
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:43,159
item number nine, waiver of rules.

1362
02:00:53,040 --> 02:01:00,880
Has every member voted?
Does any member wish to change their

1363
02:00:58,159 --> 02:01:04,719
vote?
Madam clerk,

1364
02:01:02,239 --> 02:01:07,760
» 22 yes. 20%.
>> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Having received

1365
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:12,960
the necessary majority of the votes
cast, item number nine is adopted.

1366
02:01:11,679 --> 02:01:18,239
Without objection, recognize
Commissioner Ward on item number 11.

1367
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:22,159
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank while I'm reading this, I want to

1368
02:01:20,719 --> 02:01:26,080
bring a couple people up that's been
here waiting on us. Couple folks in

1369
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:28,719
Battle Health, Brook Graham and Matt
Harper.

1370
02:01:27,614 --> 02:01:32,080
[clears throat]
Jill, you might as well come on up here,

1371
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:37,199
too. I'll hide back here in the corner.
And two of our sessions court judges,

1372
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:43,199
Judge Nelson and Judge Vance. Uh, this
resolution approving acceptance of a

1373
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:48,080
$4,500 grant to create a reset room to
aid in positive mental health and stress

1374
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:54,320
reduction for participants for the court
proceedings. Um,

1375
02:01:50,960 --> 02:02:00,639
Ballot has generously donated
uh proceeds for this room with only two

1376
02:01:58,239 --> 02:02:06,400
stipulations really or two exceptions is
one that S County display a plaque

1377
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:11,360
outside the room uh that it was donated
and provided by Ballot Hill and that the

1378
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:18,000
county which I think the city judges
will take care of um a number of room

1379
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:21,760
uses per month and a number of uses in
that month where the user expresses

1380
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:26,320
feelings of improvement, benefit from
using [clears throat] this room. Uh,

1381
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:29,520
Judge Nelson, you talk a little bit
about this room and what it's going to

1382
02:02:27,599 --> 02:02:34,000
do. [clears throat]
>> Good evening. I'm Teresa Nelson. I'm one

1383
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:38,320
of the Bristol General Sessions judges,
but I'm also a juvenile court judge

1384
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:44,880
along with Judge Doug Vance. And one of
the things that we face routinely are

1385
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:50,800
children that have been removed from
their homes as a result of dependency

1386
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:54,880
and neglect. And what that means is that
through no fault of the child, their

1387
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:58,960
home environment is no longer safe for
them. And so they are placed in the

1388
02:02:57,040 --> 02:03:03,520
department's custody or they're placed
in a relative's custody. And so they've

1389
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:09,679
been removed from their home. So part of
what happens is that regularly they come

1390
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:16,159
to court and they see myself or judge
bands and right now what we have is a

1391
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:23,760
conference room and so the children come
and they sit and there's no stimulation.

1392
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:29,040
Um they're often there for a couple
hours. Sometimes they're called as

1393
02:03:26,159 --> 02:03:34,960
witnesses to testify which is very
traumatic for them. It's it's an

1394
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:39,760
uncomfortable situation. Sometimes the
parents are not receptive. Sometimes the

1395
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:44,800
parents aren't willing for them to come
home. And so these children feel

1396
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:49,840
feelings of abandonment. Um they're
scared, they're nervous, they're in an

1397
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:55,119
unfamiliar setting. And so um many of
you are familiar with the Isaiah House

1398
02:03:52,480 --> 02:04:01,199
and that is a home that is provided on
the day of removal. But what we face in

1399
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:06,960
the courts um on a weekly basis is
seeing children in an environment that

1400
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:12,080
is um very sterile um I wouldn't say
unfriendly but to them it's it's not a

1401
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:17,760
welcoming place and so Ballot has
graciously um extended this to our

1402
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:22,960
county and we are so grateful and
anxious to put this into place very

1403
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:28,960
quickly. Um Judge Mance can also talk
about other uses.

1404
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:34,239
Yeah, I'll be brief. Um, we we've spoke
to the judges in in Washington County. I

1405
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:39,280
believe they they have a reset room
courthouse calming room. Uh, really

1406
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:44,560
excited about about using this for the
juvenile for the juvenile uh court, but

1407
02:04:42,159 --> 02:04:49,280
also uh I do the domestic violence court
in Bristol and that [clears throat] it

1408
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:54,880
can be uh for these for the domestic
violence victims uh coming to court. You

1409
02:04:52,480 --> 02:05:00,400
know, one problem we have is getting
them there

1410
02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:04,080
for multiple reasons, but uh but they
can be very anxious when when they when

1411
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:09,920
they get the courthouse. This would be a
resource we could use to to help them

1412
02:05:06,159 --> 02:05:14,320
out, help them try to help them not be
as anxious so they can make it through

1413
02:05:12,719 --> 02:05:19,280
this difficult time in their life where
they've been a victim of domestic

1414
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:24,400
violence. And so, anything we can do uh
to

1415
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:31,040
to make it easier on them is a great
appreciate Val stepping up and and

1416
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:35,920
donating
this these funds and we look forward to

1417
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:42,320
putting it together
>> and this is at no cost at all to the

1418
02:05:38,239 --> 02:05:46,320
county. This is 100% donation um that we
will utilize and can explain a little

1419
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:49,880
more about what it's going to look like
when it's finished.

1420
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:56,800
» Good evening. My name is Broo Graham.
This is Matt Hoffer. We both work for

1421
02:05:55,040 --> 02:06:00,239
Valley's Behavioral Health Division. Uh
he and I both have responsibility of our

1422
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:03,440
outpatient services program. And you've
got a little bit of collateral in front

1423
02:06:01,679 --> 02:06:07,520
of you that I thought would just be
beneficial as you kind of orient

1424
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:12,560
yourself to what we've been doing. We
stepped into the schoolbased realm in

1425
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:17,119
23. You might kind of correlate that
with the time frame of postcoid because

1426
02:06:15,199 --> 02:06:22,080
students were needing support. And we
have found fruitful uh results from our

1427
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:26,320
relationships with the school systems.
We're now in 39 schools across the

1428
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:29,199
Appalachian Highlands region. Uh we are
in Sullivan County schools.

1429
02:06:27,679 --> 02:06:32,719
Superintendent Carter was just here and
we've been working with him in Sullivan

1430
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:37,679
County Middle and a couple of additional
elementary schools. Um as Judge Nelson

1431
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:40,719
and Judge Vance said, we're in two
courthouse calling rooms already. That's

1432
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:45,280
Washington County, Tennessee and
Greenville, Tennessee, and this will be

1433
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:50,239
the third one. Um 50 visits to date
since November of 24 Washington County

1434
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:53,760
um and Green County have used. And you
may say that's a very small number, but

1435
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:58,159
at the end of the day, as you heard her
speak and him speak. Um, if it's

1436
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:01,599
successful pathway forward for that
family, then that's beneficial to

1437
02:06:59,599 --> 02:07:05,599
everyone involved. So really, our
justification is the fact to create

1438
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:09,840
access points. And so we've committed
not only to providing this service, but

1439
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:14,000
also providing additional resources for
mental health across the spectrum. Um,

1440
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:17,000
because the intention is to create
access

1441
02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:28,239
So, just in summary, what what this will
look like um once it's finished is that

1442
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:33,840
the room instead of being a um bare room
with a table and chairs, um Ballad will

1443
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:39,840
donate the funds for us to furnish um
with things like um drawing boards and

1444
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:46,639
dry erase markers. And I know one of the
rooms has a massage chair and bean bags

1445
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:52,079
and um sensory toys and so it can be
geared towards our needs and what we see

1446
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:57,440
as the room progresses um what kids are
responding to. And so when they come

1447
02:07:54,239 --> 02:08:01,199
there, instead of seeing a stranger, um
they'll have that room and then when I

1448
02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:05,760
go in, because I speak with these
children, so when I go into the room

1449
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:10,960
with them, they're already calm and it
will hopefully be a more pleasant

1450
02:08:07,599 --> 02:08:16,320
experience for them um and calm the
nerves and make court be less scary. Um

1451
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:20,320
and that's that's the purpose of the
room. And so again, we're very excited

1452
02:08:18,639 --> 02:08:24,400
and grateful for this opportunity.
wanted to share with you what ballot is

1453
02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:27,400
doing and how it's going to help our
county.

1454
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:34,040
» Anyone seek recognition and recognize
Commissioner Hopper?

1455
02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:40,400
» Very quickly, this is kind of the same
question I had uh last week. Your

1456
02:08:38,719 --> 02:08:45,360
staffing is going to be incredibly
important in this in that there need to

1457
02:08:42,639 --> 02:08:50,880
be uh individuals with background in
child management, psychology,

1458
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:55,920
etc., etc. And it was noted that last
week it would be staffed by volunteers.

1459
02:08:54,480 --> 02:09:00,079
» So that
>> actually the way that will work is that

1460
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:04,800
on the days the children are there,
they're always accompanied by their DCS

1461
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:09,520
case manager and so they will never be
unattended in those rooms, we won't need

1462
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:14,639
volunteers because we already have the
staff there with the children. Sometimes

1463
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:19,840
um foster parents will bring them.
Sometimes the DCS case manager will

1464
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:23,679
bring them and one or the other or both
individuals will be in the room with the

1465
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:26,639
children at all times. So they'll never
be unsupervised.

1466
02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:34,079
» Well, I didn't mean unsupervised, but
with supervisors who have are capable in

1467
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:38,560
and understanding the situation.
>> Do you mean for um to assist them with

1468
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:43,520
their with their anxiety?
>> Yeah, sure. We typically in those

1469
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:48,400
situations, those needs will be
addressed precourt. And so if there's

1470
02:09:46,239 --> 02:09:52,239
something that the children need on a
regular basis, they're going to already

1471
02:09:50,079 --> 02:09:55,599
be receiving that. And for dates
specific that they come to court, for

1472
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:59,440
example, if they're going to be
testifying, they will have already

1473
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:03,440
spoken with somebody. They'll have a
therapist or somebody there to meet

1474
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:08,000
those needs. But if it's a just a day
that they will see the court, myself or

1475
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:13,679
Judge Vance, um the case manager or the
foster parent will be there with them.

1476
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:18,079
» They're allowed to testify at what age?
>> If they're competent to testify, in

1477
02:10:16,079 --> 02:10:21,840
other words, they understand the oath.
In other words, to tell the truth and

1478
02:10:19,599 --> 02:10:26,880
not tell the lie, then the court can
deem them competent to testify. When I

1479
02:10:24,639 --> 02:10:32,239
was a prosecutor, I had a child as young
as six years old testify.

1480
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:35,599
» Wow. You did a great job at Rotary the
other day.

1481
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:39,119
» Well, thank you.
>> Very nice. Mr. Cross,

1482
02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:43,520
» if I may also add just a second there.
Um, our team is also willing and has for

1483
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:47,760
our other courthouse common rooms and
all also our school systems um provided

1484
02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:53,679
evidence-based training. So, we can
provide that level of support to the

1485
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:57,040
team um PRN so to speak as needed. Um
but initially policy procedure will be

1486
02:10:55,599 --> 02:10:59,840
developed in our guidance and and
they're already doing that and so we

1487
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:05,040
need to provide that level of training
moving forward.

1488
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:10,560
And then with using it with domestic
victims I know that General Stal has

1489
02:11:08,159 --> 02:11:17,400
victim witness coordinators that that
prosecutors they'll be a big asset

1490
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:17,400
helping

1491
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:22,920
Commissioner Cross.
>> Thank you Mr. Speaker.

1492
02:11:24,079 --> 02:11:31,360
Thank you all for this. Thank you,
Commissioner Ward, for bringing this as

1493
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:37,440
a teacher and a husband of a social
worker who is constantly in the court

1494
02:11:35,199 --> 02:11:41,599
system on the Virginia side, but in the
court system. Thank you. And I would

1495
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:46,560
very much
advocate for doing this commission. It

1496
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:49,679
is very much needed. And I will tell
you, I would I would very much like to

1497
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:53,880
be had as a co-sponsor of this.
>> Absolutely.

1498
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:53,880
» Thank you. Anyone

1499
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:57,400
else seek recognition,

1500
02:11:59,840 --> 02:12:06,840
» Mr. W? Absolutely. Everybody vote in
affirmatively added. Uh,

1501
02:12:11,199 --> 02:12:22,400
you know, I just I get sometimes.
Judge Medson and Judge Vance, the things

1502
02:12:19,119 --> 02:12:27,400
that that we sat in that office and talk
about

1503
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:27,400
tri

1504
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:34,960
blow your mind.
So

1505
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:38,480
I'm I'm just the presenter. Those folks
right there do all the homework. Thank

1506
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:42,000
you valley for what you've done for all
the kids in this neighborhood. Thank you

1507
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:45,000
judge suggesting us for what you guys
do.

1508
02:12:45,546 --> 02:12:49,400
» [clears throat]
>> sponsor

1509
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:54,400
motion on waiver of rules. Thank you all
for being here.

1510
02:12:52,960 --> 02:13:00,480
» Thank you. Thank you. [clears throat]
Sponsor renews his motion on item number

1511
02:12:57,599 --> 02:13:05,360
11 for waiver of rules requiring 16
votes for passage. Without objection,

1512
02:13:03,199 --> 02:13:11,159
when the board opens, please cast your
vote on item number 11 requiring 16

1513
02:13:07,679 --> 02:13:11,159
votes for passage.

1514
02:13:11,599 --> 02:13:14,599
Has

1515
02:13:19,599 --> 02:13:27,079
every member voted?
>> Does any member wish to change their

1516
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:27,079
vote?

1517
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:33,639
» Madam cler
>> 21, three absent.

1518
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:42,520
» Having received the necessary majority
of the votes cast, item number 11 is

1519
02:13:37,280 --> 02:13:42,520
approved. Without objection, recognize

1520
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:54,880
Mr. St number 12. Thank you, Mr.
Chairman. We're withdrawing this

1521
02:13:52,480 --> 02:14:02,480
resolution.
Sponsor moves withdraw item number 12

1522
02:13:59,920 --> 02:14:08,280
without objection.
Do you want to speak that?

1523
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:08,280
» Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

1524
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:13,840
Commissioner Glo.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1525
02:14:12,662 --> 02:14:19,360
[clears throat] Gary, last week,
Attorney Street brought up a good point.

1526
02:14:17,199 --> 02:14:26,320
» Uh, county commission voted on this and
put it in law and the contract runs out

1527
02:14:24,159 --> 02:14:29,199
in January. Correct.
>> Yes.

1528
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:35,520
» Okay. Even though that the sheriff's
department is unhooked from the cameras,

1529
02:14:32,239 --> 02:14:40,239
are we notifying Block that we're
withdrawing from the contract? If we do

1530
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:44,320
that, we have to
either resend that old resolution that

1531
02:14:42,159 --> 02:14:50,000
we did or they have to be a new one
formed because we're under contract till

1532
02:14:46,719 --> 02:14:55,920
January and we're the only ones that can
renew it or or or not.

1533
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:58,560
» We can send a letter stating we're not
uh renewing.

1534
02:14:56,800 --> 02:15:04,159
» I know that, but the county commission
still has to vote on the contract.

1535
02:15:01,199 --> 02:15:09,599
» We could put it back on for uh back on
the vote on it. that would drill or just

1536
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:13,520
withdraw it and move forward. You guys
have to January next month and put one

1537
02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:16,480
on the floor.
>> I don't think we should. That's the

1538
02:15:15,119 --> 02:15:20,400
problem I've got. We're passing
everything on to the next commission.

1539
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:24,159
And that ain't right. It ain't right for
us to have 12 people in here responsible

1540
02:15:23,119 --> 02:15:30,320
for something that they didn't have
anything to do with. And that's happened

1541
02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:37,119
in here a lot. And I think that we need
to either make a motion to

1542
02:15:34,079 --> 02:15:43,119
uh resend the old resolution that was
done two years ago and opt out of the

1543
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:48,239
contract completely or
bring yours back on board and put some

1544
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:51,880
type of amendment into street. Am I
correct or not?

1545
02:15:52,239 --> 02:16:01,440
» It needs to be clarified. It renews, as
I said, it renews um

1546
02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:06,800
sometime here real soon. I felt like it
was going to renew here in August, but

1547
02:16:04,159 --> 02:16:11,679
they said it was going to renew when the
cameras came online. But but I think the

1548
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:18,159
point is well made that, you know, just
unhooking them doesn't necessarily

1549
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:22,719
cancel the contract. So, u if you want
to cancel the contract, I think you need

1550
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:27,599
to be clear about it.
But to be also to be clear, Commissioner

1551
02:16:24,719 --> 02:16:30,000
Stidom has moved to withdraw item 12.
And that and that's where we're at.

1552
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:36,080
That's where we're at right now.
Commissioner Stidum has moved to

1553
02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:40,800
withdraw item number 12.
>> Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion

1554
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:46,559
to uh go ahead and opt out of this
contract, send the uh block company a

1555
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:51,120
letter that we're not going to resign
with them. in in l in lie of

1556
02:16:50,479 --> 02:16:54,719
» what sir
>> in lie of bringing this back on the

1557
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:59,200
floor
>> um turn street we would need to do that

1558
02:16:56,800 --> 02:17:03,359
in the form of a separate motion away
from item 12 am I am I correct

1559
02:17:02,479 --> 02:17:07,519
» because we're not
>> the motion says now therefore be it

1560
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:12,000
resolved s county go on record that s
county will not renew a contract for

1561
02:17:09,599 --> 02:17:16,080
continued service now I mean that seems
pretty straightforward of course there

1562
02:17:13,439 --> 02:17:23,719
are three or four lines that follow that
but for a period I mean, you could amend

1563
02:17:18,960 --> 02:17:23,719
this resolution to just

1564
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:26,920
what?

1565
02:17:27,519 --> 02:17:34,080
» Do you wish, Commissioner? I'm I'm just
trying to clean it up. Uh, Commissioner

1566
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:38,639
Sim, do you would you wish to uh
withdraw your motion to withdraw and

1567
02:17:36,639 --> 02:17:42,399
then amend your resolution and then we
can vote on it?

1568
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:46,559
» That we could go ahead and change it
from withdrawal. will go ahead and amend

1569
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:49,599
the resolution just not to renew the
contract and strike out everything below

1570
02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:55,800
that.
>> Okay.

1571
02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:55,800
Recognize [clears throat] Mr. Ward.

1572
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:03,519
» I was gone last week on vacation. I
missed a lot.

1573
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:08,080
Disappointed in you, Joe. We'll talk
about that later, but I get you to write

1574
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:11,840
the So, we're we're amending an
amendment to an amendment to an

1575
02:18:09,359 --> 02:18:16,240
amendment is what we're doing here.
>> No. No. Um he he's withdrawing.

1576
02:18:14,319 --> 02:18:20,880
» So my question
>> my question is are we just going after S

1577
02:18:19,679 --> 02:18:24,240
County Sheriff's Department of Flock
cameras? Cuz there's [clears throat]

1578
02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:28,559
other flock cameras. Let me finish.
There's other flock cameras in Sullivan

1579
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:34,399
County. We got uh Kingsport City.
Probably got some Johnson City. Not sure

1580
02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:38,399
what Bristol uses. Uh I'm pretty sure
Lowe's has block cameras. I know Walmart

1581
02:18:36,639 --> 02:18:43,040
does. I I could Man, we could do this
for 20 minutes.

1582
02:18:40,639 --> 02:18:48,000
» All cameras. Well, just the ones that we
put in, we we'd have no control over the

1583
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:52,080
city of Bristol or Kingsport when it
comes to plot cameras. All we have

1584
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:56,639
control over is Southern County and
Sheriff's Department. You know, it

1585
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:59,599
disappoints me how this was handled. You
know, I think this could have been

1586
02:18:57,679 --> 02:19:04,399
handled a different way instead of
lights and camera. I think this could

1587
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:09,599
have been handled a whole lot cleaner,
so to speak. But ban them just from the

1588
02:19:07,599 --> 02:19:15,920
sheriff's department.
It's not going to solve anything.

1589
02:19:12,399 --> 02:19:21,760
So, uh, I mean, if we're going to do it,
let's do it right.

1590
02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:26,000
I'm disappointed in the attack and the
slander pretty much that you did against

1591
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:30,479
our sheriff and what they've done over
there. I think you're getting rid of a

1592
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:34,240
great tool. I think there's some guard
rails in place. [clears throat] I don't

1593
02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:38,559
think you did your homework on this
resolution.

1594
02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:45,519
Uh, I think it could have been modified
a little bit before we did all the

1595
02:19:41,519 --> 02:19:48,800
lights and cameras. So maybe next time
maybe sit down. He's always got an open

1596
02:19:47,359 --> 02:19:54,160
door policy. Go over and talk to him
about it. That's probably the best way

1597
02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:58,240
to handle that. At no time did we say
anything negative about the sheriff's

1598
02:19:55,840 --> 02:20:02,000
department. In fact, my first statement
about this was nothing negative about

1599
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:06,160
the sheriff's department. We have a
professional sheriff. We have a

1600
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:09,359
professionally run sheriff's department.
It was just about the cameras. It's

1601
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:14,160
about the tool, not the sheriff's
department. That was the only thing that

1602
02:20:11,439 --> 02:20:18,720
was the issue. I disagree on that. I
think you're taking a valuable tool away

1603
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:24,640
from
some very high-profile cases in in this

1604
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:28,439
area that have used those cameras to put
criminals in jail,

1605
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:36,720
child molesters, kidnappers, murderers.
So, I think you're you're missing the

1606
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:42,319
boat here.
>> Commissioner Hopper,

1607
02:20:38,960 --> 02:20:47,760
» this afternoon I had a very enlightening
conversation with Lieutenant Jagger who

1608
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:53,280
is in charge of the flock cameras for
Sullivan County.

1609
02:20:50,080 --> 02:20:57,680
Um, and [clears throat] also received an
interesting

1610
02:20:55,120 --> 02:21:03,120
unknown
uh voicemail

1611
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:09,359
describing what a rat I would be if I
did not vote against this and that uh I

1612
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:14,080
should get off the county commission,
which I'm about to do. So, I'm going to

1613
02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:19,760
speak my mind and I hope the person that
sent that nasty uh note out not only to

1614
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:25,359
me but some other people is here tonight
because I'd like to meet you. Now, from

1615
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:31,520
what I understand is that from
Lieutenant Joerger, this this technology

1616
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:36,319
is can be very limited. It can be
designed within the city within the

1617
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:40,080
Sullivan County. And without going to a
lot of detail,

1618
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:45,280
I'd like for you all to think about
inviting him to a subsequent commission

1619
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:51,280
meeting and let him enlighten us about
his the um ins and out and how this

1620
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:56,960
technology works.
Now, if you really want to get away from

1621
02:21:54,479 --> 02:22:01,840
uh the web and all that other stuff is I
would suggest that you throw away your

1622
02:21:58,800 --> 02:22:07,280
cell phone and that you throw away your
computer and you get a landline and you

1623
02:22:04,319 --> 02:22:11,920
do all your correspondence by mail and
you take your check and you cash it and

1624
02:22:09,359 --> 02:22:18,479
you spend everything. Uh don't use a
credit card. Um the first one of you all

1625
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:24,080
in this commission and and in the
audience should have happen to have your

1626
02:22:21,680 --> 02:22:30,880
car stolen
um be hit and run. Uh a variety of other

1627
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:34,640
uh incidences that's liable to happen to
somebody in this room

1628
02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:37,674
and somebody says, "Well, we couldn't
trace them down cuz we don't have a

1629
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:41,760
flock camera.
[clears throat] If we had one, we could

1630
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:46,080
have caught them." He said, 'Well, yeah,
I know, but it would have been an

1631
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:50,960
invasion of my privacy. So, I'm going to
get off this commission and leaving this

1632
02:22:49,200 --> 02:22:56,479
unresolved,
which is kind of scary because that same

1633
02:22:53,040 --> 02:23:03,760
person that sent me that nasty note,
um, is maybe the same kind of person

1634
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:08,640
that would hit and run me. I don't know.
But y'all think about it. We've got a

1635
02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:16,399
lot to consider. Guard rails could be an
asset. the whole technique uh could be

1636
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:22,880
designed to be not intrusive into our
reality. Now Joe, don't you send a Guido

1637
02:23:20,560 --> 02:23:26,854
after me to and put a contract out on
me, okay?

1638
02:23:24,834 --> 02:23:26,854
[laughter]

1639
02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:38,560
» Commissioner Ward
and Commissioner Carr.

1640
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:43,280
Barry, I probably the same guy that
called me today and said he knew where I

1641
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:47,640
lived and told him I'd be waiting in the
driveway, but that's probably never

1642
02:23:44,399 --> 02:23:47,640
going to happen.

1643
02:23:48,160 --> 02:23:56,880
It's a valuable tool tool. It can be
used. There's guard rails that can be

1644
02:23:53,520 --> 02:24:03,359
put in place. There's limitations.
I I put this right up with the

1645
02:24:00,399 --> 02:24:08,960
the group [clears throat] that was anti
ice that was

1646
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:15,359
taking all the
uh criminals, foreign criminals out of

1647
02:24:12,000 --> 02:24:20,880
our country. And we almost jumped on
board, but we didn't. But man, everybody

1648
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:26,960
went full-blown on board with this.
Um my question is, what's next?

1649
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:33,040
Are we are we going to get rid of body
cameras? What about the incar cameras?

1650
02:24:30,880 --> 02:24:37,840
I mean,
man, if you don't think you're being

1651
02:24:34,319 --> 02:24:42,479
tracked right now, you're a fool
right here.

1652
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:48,160
» I guarantee I start getting scrolling
right now and it say fool, Gary Stumm,

1653
02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:54,319
and me and everybody else in this room,
county commission, and

1654
02:24:51,439 --> 02:24:57,840
so just something to think about. We
could have just sat down and said, "Hey,

1655
02:24:55,680 --> 02:25:03,200
let's fix this right here, right now
before we did the big grand standing."

1656
02:25:00,640 --> 02:25:08,040
So hopefully you get to Nashville, Gary.
You can do some good things down there.

1657
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:08,040
But

1658
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:16,080
» Mr. Carr,
>> thank you, Mr. Chairman. I I'd like to

1659
02:25:13,200 --> 02:25:19,760
again reiterate that neither I nor Gary
have said anything negative about our

1660
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:23,520
sheriff. We've always [clears throat]
supported him. we've always believed and

1661
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:29,520
continue to believe that he is a good
sheriff. He does a great job. Um, you

1662
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:33,840
know, second week in a row we've had the
cell phones, you know, spying on you

1663
02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:38,240
brought up and that's true, but you
know, two wrongs don't make a right.

1664
02:25:35,680 --> 02:25:43,040
It's that in of itself is a fourth
amendment violation. That's, you know,

1665
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:46,960
it's been in place October of this year
will be 25 years since the Patriot Act

1666
02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:50,960
was enacted and that was got that was
what got the ball rolling on all of this

1667
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:56,399
all of this. That was what started the
slow erosion of our civil liberties. Um,

1668
02:25:54,080 --> 02:26:01,520
I just want to quote for a a brief
moment from article 1, section 7 of the

1669
02:25:58,880 --> 02:26:05,359
Tennessee State Constitution. General
warrants whereby an officer may be

1670
02:26:03,439 --> 02:26:09,840
commanded to search suspected places
without evidence of the fact committed

1671
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:13,200
or to seize any person or persons not
named whose offenses are not

1672
02:26:11,439 --> 02:26:18,160
particularly described and supported by
evidence are dangerous to liberty and

1673
02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:22,319
ought not to be granted. So the
constitution, the state constitution of

1674
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:26,880
Tennessee actually goes a lot further
than the fourth amendment of our country

1675
02:26:24,961 --> 02:26:29,840
[clears throat] does. And the bottom
line is that these cameras are

1676
02:26:28,319 --> 02:26:33,040
unconstitutional to our state
constitution because it says right there

1677
02:26:31,439 --> 02:26:39,680
in black and white in our state
constitution that frivolous warrants

1678
02:26:36,479 --> 02:26:43,439
are, you know, unconstitutional. So if
you're doing this type of search without

1679
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:47,600
a warrant, it's definitely
unconstitutional.

1680
02:26:44,960 --> 02:26:50,960
and getting rid of these cameras is is
kind of a duty because the longer we

1681
02:26:49,439 --> 02:26:54,319
keep these up, the the longer the
chances of us getting hit with a big

1682
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:57,439
lawsuit over them are. So, you know, I
respect the sheriff's department. I

1683
02:26:55,920 --> 02:27:02,319
respect your opinion, but I think this
is something we need to take care of.

1684
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:06,160
» Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Commissioner Ward then Commissioner I.

1685
02:27:04,399 --> 02:27:09,680
You know the way I look at that if I
drive it down the road and I go buy a

1686
02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:12,960
Flock camera.
The worst thing they're going to get me

1687
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:17,280
for is cuz I've got my windows down and
I've got my George Jones player and I

1688
02:27:15,439 --> 02:27:23,240
mean if you're not doing anything wrong,
what do you worry about? You know when I

1689
02:27:19,520 --> 02:27:23,240
go to Lowe's there's

1690
02:27:55,600 --> 02:28:03,040
trying the blues because we didn't have
no flop cameras and somebody's grandkid

1691
02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:06,319
got kidnapped or killed and we're
looking for them and we can't find them.

1692
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:11,760
Well, we use your flock cameras. Well,
we had to get rid of those.

1693
02:28:09,359 --> 02:28:17,240
Boy, I heaven forbid I hope that never
happens in this county. I really do.

1694
02:28:14,240 --> 02:28:17,240
Okay,

1695
02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:26,080
» Commissioner I
last week, we all received a email by

1696
02:28:23,680 --> 02:28:30,120
the sheriff. He says he's not using
them. They're disabled.

1697
02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:36,720
I think that the decision's already been
made. And at this point, we're sitting

1698
02:28:35,359 --> 02:28:40,160
back saying, are we going to renew a
contract or not? Well, if we have

1699
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:42,800
cameras that aren't being used and
aren't plugged in, then we should

1700
02:28:41,439 --> 02:28:46,399
definitely end the contract so we have
to keep paying for them. I I agree with

1701
02:28:44,399 --> 02:28:50,960
Commissioner Glover.
That being said, I would offer a

1702
02:28:48,800 --> 02:28:56,319
amendment to the resolution for Mr.
Stutm that in the resolution body it

1703
02:28:53,680 --> 02:29:00,479
says devices in Sullivan County. Period.
Where it says pending equipment either

1704
02:28:58,720 --> 02:29:04,800
statewide local guard railroads. Just
remove that. Period. And in the now

1705
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:08,640
therefore the exact same thing when it
says remove operation of surveillance

1706
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:13,040
cameras in Solen County. Period. And
remove everything after that in the body

1707
02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:18,319
of the resolution. that I believe does
exactly what we've talked about. It

1708
02:29:15,439 --> 02:29:21,760
sends a letter of non-renewal to the
flock cameras and since they're not

1709
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:24,560
being used, they've already been
disabled, we need to go and do that

1710
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:28,240
instead of bail on money for something
that's still disabled.

1711
02:29:26,720 --> 02:29:32,720
» You heard [clears throat]
proposed amendment, Commissioner Stum,

1712
02:29:31,120 --> 02:29:38,160
what is what's your desire?
>> We'll accept that.

1713
02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:44,040
» Okay, we uh the sponsor accepts the
proposed amendment.

1714
02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:44,040
need a restated.

1715
02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:58,840
» So we'll be voting on it as as amended
and again commissioner still accepts

1716
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:58,840
that amendment.

1717
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:07,920
» Recognize Commissioner Lock.
You know we're a fun body

1718
02:30:05,439 --> 02:30:13,359
and that's about it. When the sheriff
come up here and requested these clock

1719
02:30:09,359 --> 02:30:18,479
cameras to be uh approved with funding
so they could get them in, that's what

1720
02:30:15,040 --> 02:30:21,880
we did. He didn't come back up here
while gone.

1721
02:30:22,640 --> 02:30:26,040
Gary did

1722
02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:36,040
and we can talk about Bristol and
Kingsport and you know all these cities

1723
02:30:32,479 --> 02:30:36,040
within this county.

1724
02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:41,960
They're still going to be utilized.
They've been utilized.

1725
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:51,549
And the sheriff's a
constitutional office holder

1726
02:30:47,760 --> 02:30:55,200
and his men and women that work for him.
[clears throat]

1727
02:30:52,479 --> 02:31:00,880
They have a policy to follow. We haven't
had any problems in Sullivan County with

1728
02:30:57,840 --> 02:31:07,924
these cameras. If anything, we've had
good outcomes, positives,

1729
02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:11,200
unlike the rest of the United States
[clears throat]

1730
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:17,280
and different areas up north of people
abusing the system. We've we've had

1731
02:31:13,200 --> 02:31:22,880
none, zero.
And you know, all this discussion

1732
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:30,840
about flock.
They've been at Lowe's for five and six

1733
02:31:25,040 --> 02:31:30,840
years and retail establishment stores,

1734
02:31:31,359 --> 02:31:34,520
you know,

1735
02:31:35,840 --> 02:31:43,840
they were an issue, he would have
probably come back to this commission

1736
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:49,439
and said, "Let's not uh let's void the
contract and get them out of here." He

1737
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:53,680
did, but the but the skull butt and the
talk started in Nashville. So, I think

1738
02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:58,399
we table this resolution, let you deal
with it when you get down to Nashville

1739
02:31:55,359 --> 02:32:01,840
as a state rep. Y'all are trying to pass
a law right now. It's going to be in

1740
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:05,520
next session anyway.
You might as well go ahead and go down

1741
02:32:03,520 --> 02:32:10,240
there and fix it.
But we're a funding body. We don't give

1742
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:14,880
money to departments
only to come back months later and take

1743
02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:19,040
it back away from them. If Scott Murray
wants to buy

1744
02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:23,840
a stripe
truck to stripe these roads and I drive

1745
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:29,280
down the road and don't see that stripe
truck and say, "I don't like the way it

1746
02:32:25,600 --> 02:32:34,000
striped that pavement. I want to end the
contract with that company or that truck

1747
02:32:31,439 --> 02:32:41,160
and let's sell it." We don't do that. We
don't micromanage these departments and

1748
02:32:36,240 --> 02:32:41,160
these constitutional office holders.

1749
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:49,280
So table it and go to Nashville and fix
it down there the way it should be.

1750
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:54,080
» Commissioner Lock, before you uh before
you cut it off,

1751
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:58,080
» are you offering are you use the word
table? Are you offering that as are you

1752
02:32:56,640 --> 02:33:01,520
making a motion to table?
>> I said table it.

1753
02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:03,600
» So you're making a motion to table it.
>> I need a second.

1754
02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:09,600
» I'll second.
>> Have a have a Okay, we have a motion

1755
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:14,319
tabled by Commissioner Lock, a second by
Commissioner Ward. Uh that proper motion

1756
02:33:12,720 --> 02:33:17,720
properly second. Let me explain to y'all
how that works.

1757
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:24,560
That cuts off all debate but with the
exception of

1758
02:33:23,200 --> 02:33:27,680
commission at this point commissioner
lock commissioner stiffen the person

1759
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:31,680
that made the tableing motion and the
sponsor sponsor of the resolution.

1760
02:33:30,061 --> 02:33:38,080
[clears throat and cough]
and then we will vote on the tableing

1761
02:33:33,359 --> 02:33:43,439
motion and that will
that will in essence uh kill the

1762
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:48,479
resolution if if if we get that requires
13 votes for passage.

1763
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:52,880
If it doesn't, we're back on we're back
on the floor with it. And at the end of

1764
02:33:50,880 --> 02:33:58,000
the meeting, if it get does get tabled,
at the end of the meeting, we would

1765
02:33:54,880 --> 02:34:02,000
require a if if you wanted to bring it
back, it would have to be someone from

1766
02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:08,000
the prevailing party
to offer a motion to reconsider, in this

1767
02:34:04,319 --> 02:34:12,399
case, item number 12 for reconsideration
of item number 12 to bring it to bring

1768
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:16,479
it back. Are we are we are we clear
about where we are in the process? But

1769
02:34:13,840 --> 02:34:22,960
right now, debate has been cut off with
the exception of lock and stum.

1770
02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:29,840
I recognize Commissioner STDM on the
tableabling on the tableling motion

1771
02:34:27,200 --> 02:34:35,040
» by withdrawing it. That basically was
the process of tableabling it to put it

1772
02:34:32,399 --> 02:34:39,600
out. Mr. Glover brought up a good point
and I do agree with him. That would just

1773
02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:43,680
put it to the next commission to deal
with it and take care of a resolution,

1774
02:34:41,439 --> 02:34:48,640
send a letter out.
>> There is a difference in tableabling and

1775
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:55,200
deferring.
So either either way it goes. If it we

1776
02:34:52,880 --> 02:35:00,800
vote for this thing tonight, we do it.
We send the letter out. It's done. If

1777
02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:04,880
not, if we table it, then you guys will
be dealing with it next month when it

1778
02:35:02,319 --> 02:35:09,600
comes back in September.
>> So I would prefer just deal with it

1779
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:13,120
tonight as Mr. Glover says, not pass it
off. Make a decision tonight and move

1780
02:35:12,399 --> 02:35:17,600
on.
>> Okay. Commissioner Lock, you you renew

1781
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:19,040
your motion to table item number 12?
>> No.

1782
02:35:18,399 --> 02:35:20,960
» Excuse.
>> No.

1783
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:24,240
» So, you withdraw?
>> Yes. I mean yes.

1784
02:35:22,399 --> 02:35:28,560
» Commissioner Lock renews his motion to
table item number 12.

1785
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:31,520
When the board opens, we're going to be
voting simply on the tableing motion.

1786
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:37,840
Everybody understand [clears throat]
where we are?

1787
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:43,439
» Yes, sir. You vote yes. You're voting to
table the motion. When the board opens,

1788
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:50,760
please cast your vote on the tableing
motion of item number 12.

1789
02:35:46,399 --> 02:35:50,760
Requires 13 votes for passage.

1790
02:35:52,880 --> 02:35:56,120
» Make sure

1791
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:07,399
we're waiting on Sarah voting on table.
We'll wait. We'll wait.

1792
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:18,240
We we can do a roll call vote.
And again, we're not voting on the

1793
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:21,200
resolution. We're voting on the table
motion.

1794
02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:25,120
And I know it sound like a broken
record, but that that gets confusing

1795
02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:29,560
sometimes. [clears throat] At least it
at least it would at least it does for

1796
02:36:26,560 --> 02:36:29,560
me.

1797
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:44,960
She has it on the board if you want to
do that.

1798
02:36:41,439 --> 02:36:48,720
» Do you mean
>> Okay. Do we want to do we want to take a

1799
02:36:47,359 --> 02:36:53,760
vote on whether or not we put it on the
board or roll?

1800
02:36:51,520 --> 02:36:57,600
» Let's just
let's put it on the board for the

1801
02:36:54,960 --> 02:37:03,960
clerk's electronic record. And that's
not disrespectfully. Sarah worked hard

1802
02:36:59,840 --> 02:37:03,960
to get that get that up there.

1803
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:11,399
We're voting on the tableling motion

1804
02:37:11,680 --> 02:37:17,000
requires [cough] 13 votes per passage.

1805
02:37:30,240 --> 02:37:37,560
Has every member voted?
Does any member wish to change their

1806
02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:37,560
vote?

1807
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:48,240
» Madam clerk,
>> 10 yes, 11 no, three absent.

1808
02:37:46,479 --> 02:37:52,160
» Having failed to receive the necessary
majority of the votes cast, the tableing

1809
02:37:50,319 --> 02:37:57,040
motion fails. We're back on the
resolution as amended. Commissioner

1810
02:37:54,000 --> 02:38:00,479
Stum, uh, you accepted Commissioner I's
amendment, correct?

1811
02:37:59,359 --> 02:38:02,479
» Yes, Mr. Chairman.
>> Are we still there?

1812
02:38:01,520 --> 02:38:07,640
» We are still there.
>> Okay.

1813
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:07,640
» You sure have.

1814
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:13,840
» Commissioner I.
>> Yes, sir.

1815
02:38:11,359 --> 02:38:18,319
» Would it be correct to say that your
amendment

1816
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:24,399
will put a period at the end of Sullivan
County in the heading of the resolution

1817
02:38:20,399 --> 02:38:32,680
and strike everything down to
This resolution shall take effect.

1818
02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:32,680
The last word will be saf.

1819
02:38:33,984 --> 02:38:36,004
[clears throat]

1820
02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:41,560
» Okay. Would

1821
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:52,560
you mind to restate the motion for so
that so that I just like for everybody

1822
02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:55,760
know what they're voting on
>> in the in the body? It says now

1823
02:38:54,319 --> 02:38:59,120
therefore be resolved the board of
county commission Sen County goes on

1824
02:38:57,520 --> 02:39:04,000
record now that Sullivan County shall
not renew a contract for continued

1825
02:39:01,359 --> 02:39:07,680
service of or provision technology and
or equipment for the operation of visual

1826
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:09,840
surveillance cameras in Solen County.
Period.

1827
02:39:08,560 --> 02:39:14,840
» Period.
>> And then until all that's flying out

1828
02:39:15,359 --> 02:39:21,040
and
actually in the same thing in the

1829
02:39:18,319 --> 02:39:25,160
resolution f the actual title of it, the
resolution after

1830
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:31,080
Mr. Ward.

1831
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:38,080
» So we even go down to the next line
where it says currently operates visual

1832
02:39:35,200 --> 02:39:42,080
surveillance cameras under it. I mean,
are we talking about body cameras? We're

1833
02:39:39,760 --> 02:39:45,200
talking about incar cameras.
This is law enforcement we're talking

1834
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:48,680
about. This ain't kindergarten stuff
we're talking about here.

1835
02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:54,120
» Everything law enforcement does is
reported.

1836
02:39:58,160 --> 02:40:06,240
I I don't I'm not even sure I see the
word

1837
02:40:02,880 --> 02:40:11,200
I'm not sure I can say it. block. I
mean, since we've all received nasty

1838
02:40:09,200 --> 02:40:15,960
phone calls and death threats, I don't
even see the word block cameras in this

1839
02:40:12,960 --> 02:40:15,960
resolution.

1840
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:23,600
I mean, can we not say that that we we
can amend that where it says visual

1841
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:29,560
surveillance devices and put in flock
cameras in Sullivan County in between

1842
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:29,560
devices.

1843
02:40:30,640 --> 02:40:37,319
And actually that's a good point on that
for the technical side of that.

1844
02:40:34,319 --> 02:40:37,319
» Absolutely.

1845
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:50,800
» I have an amendment I'd like to ask.
You're recogniz I'd ask that we ban all

1846
02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:56,920
Apple phones in Southern counties.
>> Commissioner Ward, I don't I don't think

1847
02:40:52,399 --> 02:40:56,920
that's a that's a recording device,

1848
02:40:57,431 --> 02:41:03,200
[clears throat]
tracking device.

1849
02:41:01,280 --> 02:41:07,040
That that's a a personal choice.
>> All we're doing right here, Gary, all

1850
02:41:05,359 --> 02:41:11,840
we're doing right here is handcuffing
the Solen County Sheriff's Department.

1851
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:15,920
All you're doing, all these other
cameras will be up and running and we

1852
02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:19,046
have not created anything. All you have
done is handcuff the Solomon County

1853
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:22,160
Sheriff's Department.
[cough and clears throat]

1854
02:41:20,319 --> 02:41:26,880
I would not quit my day job cuz you'll
not be a national law. And uh for for

1855
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:34,359
the record, uh Commissioner Commissioner
Ward, that was that was not a legit

1856
02:41:29,680 --> 02:41:34,359
legitimate amendment. That was

1857
02:41:35,760 --> 02:41:38,760
» correct.

1858
02:41:38,800 --> 02:41:47,212
I'm going to answer yes or no. I mean,
it's probably the most tracking device

1859
02:41:43,359 --> 02:41:50,960
in the history of the world right now.
[cough and clears throat]

1860
02:41:48,479 --> 02:41:55,600
» And I agree with you, but the answer is
no on that. If people choose to do that,

1861
02:41:54,080 --> 02:41:58,000
we can turn them off and leave them at
home.

1862
02:41:56,399 --> 02:42:01,920
» People choose to drive on state and
county highways, too.

1863
02:41:59,600 --> 02:42:05,920
» Recognize Commissioner Crosswise.
>> Thank you, Chairman.

1864
02:42:03,760 --> 02:42:11,200
I've gotten emails. I've gotten phone
calls. I've only had one person say,

1865
02:42:08,080 --> 02:42:17,600
"Take those cameras down. If you're not
guilty, then why you worry about them

1866
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:22,240
saying I went to downtown Bristol?" All
that yesterday. Don't tell anybody. But

1867
02:42:20,160 --> 02:42:29,200
I'm sure I was tracked from the time I
got out my car to store in there.

1868
02:42:26,800 --> 02:42:32,880
I agree with Mr. Ward. I mean, if
Kingsport's keeping letters and

1869
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:38,359
Bristol's keeping letters, you're not
guilty. What are you worried about?

1870
02:42:34,720 --> 02:42:38,359
We're all being tracked.

1871
02:42:41,520 --> 02:42:50,000
» Commissioner St. I give you final word.
I recognize Commissioner Harvey first.

1872
02:42:46,960 --> 02:42:56,880
Commissioner Harvey, go ahead.
Thank you. Mr. Chairman, is the sheriff

1873
02:42:52,399 --> 02:43:01,760
here? Sheriff Cassidy, is he here?
>> He was here earlier. He left too late.

1874
02:42:59,520 --> 02:43:05,520
» Okay. I really would would before we
vote on anything. And the reason I want

1875
02:43:03,359 --> 02:43:10,240
the table is I I feel like he needed to
come and and speak to to us in regard to

1876
02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:13,520
the note that he sent out, have a little
more explanation.

1877
02:43:12,080 --> 02:43:18,160
I just feel like there's a lot of
information that we don't have that that

1878
02:43:15,520 --> 02:43:22,319
we need to discuss more thoroughly. And
so

1879
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:26,240
here,
>> Commissioner Ward,

1880
02:43:24,479 --> 02:43:29,680
totally agree with Commissioner Harvey.
It's what we should have done to begin

1881
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:35,200
with.
>> Should have some conversations with the

1882
02:43:31,280 --> 02:43:39,399
sheriff before you ever brought this
part of a resolution out here.

1883
02:43:41,840 --> 02:43:51,120
» Mr. property.
>> I would probably like to rethink my

1884
02:43:47,920 --> 02:43:55,040
position as tableabling it because
from what I can see in this and what

1885
02:43:53,040 --> 02:44:01,200
we've discussed here tonight, there's
really some confusion as to what what

1886
02:43:58,479 --> 02:44:06,560
the resolution is going to be.
uh it probably needs to be rewritten and

1887
02:44:03,439 --> 02:44:13,040
redefined, put in a state that it's
readable, legible, and understandable

1888
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:20,319
um for the next generation.
So, I'd like to draw my my uh negative

1889
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:26,160
for the table if I can.
>> Uh you you can't uh change your vote.

1890
02:44:23,359 --> 02:44:28,160
» Well, I I know I really I knew that, but
I just

1891
02:44:26,720 --> 02:44:32,920
» You can you can express
>> I can express my regret. Okay,

1892
02:44:35,200 --> 02:44:40,399
» Commissioner Cole.
>> Um,

1893
02:44:38,479 --> 02:44:45,279
so with all the amendments that we've
done and so will this what you have

1894
02:44:43,439 --> 02:44:47,279
right now, will this end in the
contract? That's all of them.

1895
02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:50,279
» Yes.
>> Okay.

1896
02:44:54,160 --> 02:44:57,640
Commissioner Ward,

1897
02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:05,760
bad as I hate to I don't want to throw
him under the bus, but

1898
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:09,040
I'd like for Dan Street to comment on
this. I mean, if we're about to

1899
02:45:06,960 --> 02:45:14,080
terminate a contract, [cough] I know
Gary didn't go to law school, so I know

1900
02:45:11,520 --> 02:45:17,600
he's not an attorney, but I respect Dan
Street very highly. If he tells me to

1901
02:45:15,520 --> 02:45:21,040
shut up, we'll terminate his contract,
I'll shut up. Attorney Street,

1902
02:45:19,600 --> 02:45:24,560
» but I think we need to terminate this
contract in a proper way if that's going

1903
02:45:23,279 --> 02:45:28,319
to happen.
>> Attorney Street.

1904
02:45:26,800 --> 02:45:32,880
» Well, I'm not sure I understand the
question, but I think it's pretty clear

1905
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:38,240
that this motion, this resolution as it
currently exists is to terminate the

1906
02:45:35,680 --> 02:45:42,640
contract. I mean,
and that's what is before you. You

1907
02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:49,439
either vote to terminate it or you vote
or or you don't. Um, I think it's pretty

1908
02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:53,680
clear. Is that what you were asking
there

1909
02:45:51,279 --> 02:45:58,800
words?
>> And also if we could we could draw some

1910
02:45:56,640 --> 02:46:02,160
clarity between uh and forgive me for
chiming in

1911
02:46:00,640 --> 02:46:09,479
if we could draw some clarity between
two and 12 because uh with withdrawing

1912
02:46:05,439 --> 02:46:09,479
two why do we need 12?

1913
02:46:09,520 --> 02:46:19,200
We withdrew two. Why do we need 12? Just
some I was hoping someone would ask it.

1914
02:46:16,640 --> 02:46:24,240
Not not not to you're writing not opt to
your your first your first resolution

1915
02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:26,640
commissioner did.
>> Yes.

1916
02:46:24,960 --> 02:46:31,439
» The the the resolution you withdrew
earlier. Forgive me for saying two. The

1917
02:46:29,120 --> 02:46:35,760
resolution we withdrew earlier. You know
the flock representative Alex was here

1918
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:41,840
last week and he said you can terminate
it any time. There's no penalty or

1919
02:46:38,479 --> 02:46:46,399
anything for that. So this it still does
what it does. You know we went through

1920
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:51,520
it. Mr. Mr. Glover wanted it taken care
of tonight. I respected Mr. Glover's

1921
02:46:49,439 --> 02:46:55,920
opinion on that. We've accepted the
amendments to take everything out and

1922
02:46:53,200 --> 02:47:01,279
make sure that it only said slot
cameras. No other surveillance cameras

1923
02:46:58,160 --> 02:47:06,319
are affected. Again, it does not affect
Kingsport. We're not the funding body

1924
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:13,200
for the police department nor Bristol or
any other county in the area. This is

1925
02:47:08,399 --> 02:47:19,040
just for us. So
that's that's where we're at on this.

1926
02:47:15,680 --> 02:47:23,279
» Commissioner Akre.
>> Thank you, Chairman. [clears throat]

1927
02:47:20,800 --> 02:47:27,040
And I I agreed with Hershel with his
question.

1928
02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:31,439
And I'm thinking, are we really we're
overthinking this maybe a little bit? We

1929
02:47:29,439 --> 02:47:36,080
had to approve the original contract.
And if the sheriff has said he is and

1930
02:47:34,399 --> 02:47:38,800
and Dan, you may have to chime in. The
contract is going to renew

1931
02:47:37,641 --> 02:47:42,800
[clears throat] automatically. But if
the sheriff says he's Does he not have