1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,279 Uh, I'd like to welcome everybody to the August 20th meeting of the town of 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:10,400 Southeast. If you could rise for pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:15,120 I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 4 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:21,240 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,240 justice for all. 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,039 » Thank you. Uh, just to remind everybody of the exits. We have two exits in the 7 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:31,359 back of the room on each corner and one exit up here in case of an emergency. 8 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:36,000 Uh, I would ask everybody to turn off their cell phones or put it on vibrate. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Um, appreciate that. And I'll ask the clerk for roll call. 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,040 » Councilman Cypress absent. Councilman Larka 11 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:46,719 » here. >> Councilwoman Lewis absent. Councilman 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,719 Mazada >> here. 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:53,760 » Supervisor Castellano >> present. Thank you. 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:57,280 » Uh, okay. Uh, first item on tonight is public hearing. So, I'd like to make a 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,480 motion to open up a public hearing uh for Verizon of New York LLC. Do I have a 16 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,239 second? >> Second. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,280 » All in favor? >> I 18 00:01:02,559 --> 00:01:11,280 » I Okay. Uh if anybody would like to speak uh about the uh non-exclusive 19 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:17,560 cable franchise with Verizon New York LLC. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,560 Step up to the podium here. 21 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:25,520 Well, I didn't get any um feedback from the public the last couple weeks or 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:29,040 anything about it. And um with that, I guess I'll make a motion to close the 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,119 public hearing. >> Second. Second. 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,759 » All in favor? Thank you. I >> I 25 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:39,439 » All right. Uh we'll move on to our regular work session. Uh item number one 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:45,000 uh for discussion is uh the building department update from Michael Levine, 27 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:45,000 our town building inspector. 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Is this on? 29 00:01:58,399 --> 00:02:08,800 » Good evening everyone. Uh just have a brief summary tonight. Uh 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:14,400 review some work activities uh for the year to date. Uh so far we've 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:20,959 done 946 permits compared to,266 32 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:27,760 for uh year end 2025. 33 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:33,920 Uh we've issued 414 certificates year-to date compared to year end 2025 we did 34 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:40,400 601 building inspections. Uh this year we've 35 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:47,920 done 1120 year to date compared to year end 2025 where we did 1125 36 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:51,611 fire inspections year-to date we've done 246 37 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:55,440 compared to year end for 2025 [clears throat] 38 00:02:52,319 --> 00:03:00,400 of 266 notices of violation year to date we've 39 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:07,519 done 266 year end for 2025 we did 378 8 40 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:11,879 uh revenue year-to- date 446,880 41 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,280 compared to year end 2025 of 471761. 42 00:03:18,959 --> 00:03:26,480 Um [laughter] what these numbers reflect is that our 43 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:30,720 office remains busy. Um they also indicate that our work volume for the 44 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:36,319 year is on par or trending higher than last year. our revenue for 2026 already 45 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:44,959 exceeds the budgeted amount for the year. So fiscally, we're in good shape. 46 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:48,239 Um, as a department anyway, one of the biggest challenges the 47 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:52,480 building department faces is dealing with contractors and property owners 48 00:03:50,799 --> 00:03:56,720 that do not comply with our local regulations and New York State code 49 00:03:54,879 --> 00:04:01,360 requirements. The time and cost expended by the 50 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:07,439 department in addressing and correcting compliance issues is tremendous and it 51 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:11,439 impacts opportunities for efficiency. Um 52 00:04:09,519 --> 00:04:18,799 examples range from people that pull permits 53 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:23,919 don't close them out. So, we have to chase after them, 54 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:31,199 try to compel them to renew permits, close out their permit, and to bring the 55 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:37,520 the property into compliance. Um, other examples would be somebody that applies 56 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:41,440 for a permit, um, does not submit a complete 57 00:04:39,919 --> 00:04:46,720 application and we have to chase after them to get 58 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:52,080 them to submit the the proper documentation. 59 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:56,479 Clearly, and probably the biggest issue is property maintenance violations. 60 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:00,720 People are not maintaining their properties in accordance with the code. 61 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:05,120 And that's not just residential properties. Um, 62 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:10,160 commercial properties that don't maintain their their property in 63 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:18,560 accordance with the code create a situation where uh public safety is at 64 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:25,039 risk. Um, so all of these issues and of course it's it's part and parcel to what 65 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:30,880 we do, but there's I I think a lot of uh what we seem to 66 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:35,199 experience is 67 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:42,000 something the public needs to take responsibility for. Um, they don't they 68 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:46,160 don't seem to take the fact that they take out a permit seriously. they don't 69 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:52,639 look at the permit, they don't look at the scheduling requirements. Um, and 70 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:59,840 over time, uh, obviously it's a liability, but it's also it's a big cost 71 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:07,680 issue. And, um, you know, it would be something that would would be nice if, 72 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:12,319 uh, we saw, uh, more compliance rather than less. 73 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:16,479 Um, as provided to the board, we're beginning to see attrition in the 74 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:20,000 department as anticipated, and I've provided my current 75 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,720 recommendations to the board in recent correspondence. [snorts] Uh, looking 76 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,479 ahead to 2027, we'll prepare and train for the 77 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:33,360 implementation of software upgrades to provide an online permitting portal. The 78 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,000 portal will provide contractors, professionals, and property owners the 79 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:41,840 ability to submit permit applications electronically. 80 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:45,759 Um, finally, I want to take the opportunity to thank my staff for the 81 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:49,520 work that they do. Um, and 82 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:53,280 if there's anybody that has any questions on the board, I'd be more than 83 00:06:52,160 --> 00:07:00,319 happy to address them. >> Sure. Any questions, 84 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:03,759 » Mike? Uh, has that um no show fee helped at all 85 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:09,199 » for uh was it inspections that we put in? I 86 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:16,319 mean, I don't think that you'd ever really see 87 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:21,440 a big impact with that because it's kind of 88 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:25,280 somebody that that is a no-show that is charged the fee. Of course, they won't 89 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,080 won't do it again, >> right? 90 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:34,560 » But it's not going to impact the hundreds or whatever other people that 91 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:40,560 are are scheduling appointments. and thanks for um the analysis that you and 92 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:46,319 Alex worked on and we saw that come through and we'll be discussing that. So 93 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:52,560 » yeah, I I thought that that was beneficial. I appreciate the uh being 94 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:58,639 asked to to go through that exercise. It was it was good. Yeah, it's always 95 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:03,360 helpful um to to go through that, you know, both from your perspective um to 96 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:08,000 lay it out on paper and see how it looks from a present state to what a desired 97 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,919 future state might look like. It helped us too because 98 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,479 » sure, >> we don't want to be in the position to 99 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:19,120 to guess what you need, right? Because you're the department head. You know 100 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:24,400 exactly what it is. Um, but to be able to spell that out on paper to help us 101 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,599 like connect dots, I know for myself it it helped a great deal. So, so thank you 102 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,759 for doing that. >> Sure. 103 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:38,640 » Um, I had a question regarding two items that you mentioned. You know, 104 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:44,399 you mentioned how, you know, onus on the public to some degree to assist in being 105 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:48,240 more compliant with with their permit requests, 106 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:53,176 » right? So I how do you couple that when we once we get the online permitting 107 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,720 software up and running? Do [clears throat] you think that will 108 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:01,519 assist or make that maybe the public more compliant because it's more user 109 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:06,320 friendly, easier to manage, maybe easier to communicate? So do you think 110 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,880 ultimately when when we roll this out that will yield a benefit to the 111 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,959 department? >> I hope so. 112 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:20,240 uh you know the the online portal 113 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:28,399 uh is kind of an interesting uh application for a building 114 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:32,480 department. Um I I personally feel that you're going to have a have a lot of 115 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:38,399 people that are just going to kind of continue to do it the oldfashioned way 116 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:43,200 because that's how they do it. There are going to be people that, you 117 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:50,000 know, like let's just say like a a plumbing contractor that might submit 75 118 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:53,519 applications a year. Certainly for that contractor, 119 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:58,640 it would be very beneficial if they can do it online because they could they 120 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:07,760 could probably knock those out very quickly. Um 121 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:14,480 the person that I have concern is where they try to use the portal and 122 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:18,160 they experience issues and we have to engage 123 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:24,800 you know continuous kind of phone dialogue or email dialogue to try to 124 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:32,480 help them through the process. So I think that that's kind of a concern of 125 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:38,240 mine. Um but at the same time I think that when we go through the training 126 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:44,399 process we have to make sure that we have a a standard or a system in place 127 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:49,120 to address those questions as they come up. 128 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:54,399 » Yeah. FAQs on a website are always helpful. you know with AI now there's 129 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:59,120 there's chat bots right which which you feed the information to which which 130 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:05,519 certainly could be useful so I hope when we deploy the software we're also kind 131 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:09,360 of bringing that other technology right behind it because it would address many 132 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:13,347 of the things you just spoke of so that you're less staff reliant 133 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,959 » yeah I was I was actually thinking about [clears throat] it yesterday because I 134 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:20,880 was on I was on the phone with a robot >> and I was asking the the robot questions 135 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:25,760 and it was providing ing me with very capable responses and I was like, how do 136 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:33,040 you get that into what I do for a living? And uh so 137 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:37,440 it's definitely I guess that's where the world is heading in a lot of a lot of 138 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:41,120 ways. >> Yeah. 139 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,680 » No, I'm glad to see u you know the increase in activity in the department 140 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:47,200 and you guys are doing a great job keeping up with it. Um so you know 141 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,279 compliments to you and your staff on that. Uh definitely looking forward to 142 00:11:48,959 --> 00:11:55,680 the online permitting uh issue. I think that'll you know it's the next step for 143 00:11:53,519 --> 00:11:58,560 us and I'm looking forward to it and try to help any way we can. So I appreciate 144 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,600 that. >> Super. Okay. I think that we're unless 145 00:12:01,839 --> 00:12:08,480 there's any other comments or questions. >> Thanks for getting all the solicitors. 146 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:12,399 » Thank you, Peter. [clears throat] >> Hopefully the sheriff's department gets 147 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,200 them too. >> Thanks very much. 148 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:19,200 » Okay. Good evening. >> Thank you. 149 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:22,959 Uh number two for discussion we have uh Putnham County District Attorney Robert 150 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:24,880 Tendy here to give us an update on uh scamming that's affecting Putnham 151 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:28,040 County. >> Thank you. 152 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:37,440 » Speaking of AI Sesan >> okay um I want to thank you for letting 153 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:44,639 me come here and talk about this because this is something that uh four years ago 154 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:50,000 was a concern, three years ago was more of a concern. Lately, it's just gotten 155 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:53,519 really, really crazy. And as this has been happening more and more over the 156 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:56,800 past several months, and I've been going to various senior centers and various 157 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:01,440 social groups and talking to them about it, 158 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:04,800 people are still getting scammed a lot, not just in this county, but all all 159 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:09,440 over the world. Certainly in America, and certainly seniors are hit more than 160 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:14,399 more than most. Um, so I thought it would be a good idea to come to each 161 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:18,800 town and talk to the board, but more importantly, it's on it's televised, so 162 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,600 people can watch it and see it because these I'm going to give you an example 163 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:26,399 of what I'm talking about. A very good friend of mine who's an international 164 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:31,760 attorney, a very bright man. He travels all around the world. He got scammed not 165 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:37,440 too long ago out of $250,000. He's a really bright guy. Um, it was a 166 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:42,160 email and a phone scam. It was very very sophisticated. Uh he thought it was a 167 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:47,120 bank. He thought it was a client and he fell for it. Fortunately, he has 168 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:52,320 commercial uh theft insurance, so they covered it. But that's that's that's a 169 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:55,120 lot of money. I mean, he's a multi-millionaire. It's not a lot for 170 00:13:53,440 --> 00:14:00,320 him, but it's a lot of money. And it's it's how they did it. It was so well 171 00:13:57,519 --> 00:14:03,680 done that this sophisticated businessman actually fell for it. So, I want to go 172 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,720 over a couple of some of these scams you've all heard of, but even though 173 00:14:05,199 --> 00:14:10,240 you've heard of them, they bear repeating because people keep falling 174 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,680 for them. In Putham County, two years ago, we had a woman who was scammed for 175 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,480 $120,000. Fortunately, we caught the person who 176 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:21,199 did it. It's very unusual that the person's actually in the country, but in 177 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:26,399 this case, the person was uh not too long ago in my town, Putnham Valley, a 178 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:29,600 woman was scammed out of $50,000. Recently, someone was scammed out of 179 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:36,959 $15,000. Um, some people have their bank accounts 180 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:39,760 used as conduits to transfer money because they think they're speaking to a 181 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,360 friend and they're not and they get told the story. But I'm going to go over some 182 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:47,680 of these examples and uh, you really need to be vigilant. 183 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:51,519 Um, one of the things that every is probably 184 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:58,480 the oldest scam in the book as far as phones go, it's the grandparent scam. 185 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:04,720 your grandchild calls you and says, "I'm in Mexico and I'm in jail and I need 186 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,880 money to get out." And you may all be familiar with it and you're like, "How 187 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,959 could somebody fall for something like that?" They do it all the time and they 188 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,839 fall for it all the time. Um, sometimes you get a call from somebody claiming to 189 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,399 be your grandchild's friend. Your grandchild's been in an accident. 190 00:15:15,199 --> 00:15:20,000 They're in the hospital. They can't contact the parents. Uh, we need 191 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:23,600 information for the doctor. Please give us your credit card number. Something 192 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:27,760 like that. People are still falling for these scams. If you get a phone call 193 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,959 from somebody who says, "I'm in Mexico and I'm your grandson and or I'm the 194 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,880 friend of your granddaughter or whatever," just don't even say anything. 195 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Don't say, "Oh my god." Just hang out the phone. It's a scam. It's a scam. 196 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:47,920 That's all there is to it. Um, speaking of AI, I speak to so many 197 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:53,839 people who think they're being clever when they get a phone call from an 198 00:15:51,279 --> 00:15:57,440 unknown party and they start talking to them, grilling them, asking them 199 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,880 questions, thinking they're going to like, I'll show you. I know you're a 200 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:06,079 scammer. All they're doing is cloning your voice. They're recording your voice 201 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:09,279 and they're cloning it. And if your kid does it or a relative does it or a 202 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:14,639 neighbor does it and these people are very very sophisticated, you will 203 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:19,519 eventually get a call from your neighbor or your daughter or they might get a 204 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:24,959 call from you and it's going to be your voice and it's going to sound real 205 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:30,720 and all you have to do is go online and look at these AI videos. I mean, they 206 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:34,639 looks they're amazingly real. I just saw a video there that's it's 207 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:40,800 spectacular. I'm so proud of this lion. It raised a rabbit. It's amazing. 208 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:46,800 It's fake. My son-in-law had the opportunity to go 209 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:52,720 to Egypt recently and he did an archaeological dig and he sends me video 210 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:58,560 from Egypt and he's surrounded by all these ancient places and he's digging 211 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:02,560 and he's talking to me. He was in Walden, New York. The whole 212 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,400 thing was fake. He wanted to show me how easy it is. I'm like, I didn't know know 213 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:11,520 you were in I didn't even know you knew where Egypt was. [laughter] The It 214 00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:17,679 looked great. I was like, what the hell's going on here? I really almost 215 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:21,679 believed he was in Egypt. Bank scams. If you get a call from your 216 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:26,240 bank and your bank says your your account's been compromised. We think it 217 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:29,440 may have been hacked. We want to go over some information with you to make sure 218 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:33,440 that what's going on is legitimate or illegitimate. give us your social last 219 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:39,280 four digits of your Don't do it. Don't do it. If your bank calls you, 220 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:43,600 hang up the phone. Get in your car and drive to the bank or hang up the phone. 221 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:47,280 Go online, get the real bank number. Call the bank number that you're used to 222 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:53,679 calling and talk to them. Don't accept the phone call from the bank. 223 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:57,600 They are so good at that scam. It happens all the time. I you may have 224 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:01,200 heard a news reporter in Los Angeles about two months ago fail for this. They 225 00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:05,919 called him up and they they wanted his banking information and he went all the 226 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,160 way to the point of actually going to the bank to take out money for them. 227 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,600 That's when he realized this is crazy. This can't be real. But they're so good 228 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:16,480 at it. They're really good at it. So don't fall 229 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,679 for it. If somebody calls you and they say they're from the IRS and they're 230 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:27,840 going to garnish your wages, just hang up the phone. All right? The IRS when it 231 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:32,480 contacts you folks is too late. All right? When you get contacted by the 232 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:35,440 IRS, it's going to be by a bank account garnishment, wage garnishment, etc. You 233 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,960 get a call from the IRS, just hang up the phone. Then, if you want, you can 234 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:43,200 call the IRS, but don't ever do anything on a phone call. It's like when you're a 235 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:46,480 kid, your your parents tell you not to speak to strangers. 236 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:49,840 You don't speak to strangers on the phone. It's that simple. You just don't 237 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:55,039 do it, but everybody falls for it because you get you get comfortable. 238 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:58,240 This scam is very, very dangerous and it happens a lot in Putham County because 239 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:02,000 we have a lot of power outages. the nice egg scam. If somebody comes knocking on 240 00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:04,640 your door and says, "We're from Nice. There's been a power outage. We have an 241 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:08,400 indication that there might be a short in the wire going, "Can we come in?" 242 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:11,840 Don't let them in your house. It's really, really dangerous. They'll 243 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,039 either hurt you or when you're not looking, they're going to steal 244 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,480 something. Do not ever, ever let anyone in your house if you don't know who they 245 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:24,320 are. It's really, really dangerous and it happens often. 246 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:29,039 Um, the debt collection scam. You get a call from somebody who says, "We sent 247 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:32,799 you a notice four months ago. You haven't responded. It's for $2,500. It's 248 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,840 at this address." They give you the address. You're like, "Well, wait a 249 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:40,400 minute. That's my neighbor's address." And they go, "Oh, well, we have your 250 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:43,200 address. We have your information. So, it we're going to garnish your wages. 251 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,919 You want to call an attorney, that's fine." And you get all upset. And then 252 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:51,120 they say, "Well, I tell you what, we'll put everything on hold, but we got to 253 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:55,919 make sure that you're you're being legit with us. Give us $500. Give us your bank 254 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,880 account number or give us your checking account number, your debt debit card 255 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:04,559 number, or even your credit card. Give us 500 bucks. And you do it. You're 256 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:11,840 talking to a stranger, a total stranger, and you're giving them personal 257 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:16,320 information and money. Don't do it. Anytime you get a call from anybody or 258 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:19,360 anytime anybody, if you don't know these people and they ask you to transfer 259 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,160 money from your account or give them information to your bank, from your 260 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:29,039 bank, just don't do it. Please don't do it. And this one is very common among I 261 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:35,120 guess you'd have to say seniors and it it hits me really really hard because 262 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:41,120 I'm 70 years old now. And if I get a Facebook request from Destiny Love and 263 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:44,960 Destiny Love tells me she really likes my posts and she's really interested in 264 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:49,679 me. She wants to know more about me. Destiny Love doesn't give a damn about 265 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,799 me. Destiny Love just wants my money. And at 70 years old, I have to admit it. 266 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,559 Even at 30 years old, you should admit it. There is no destiny, love. It's some 267 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,159 guy in Thailand who's trying to get in my bank account. 268 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:05,840 But you'd be surprised how many seniors in Putham County have fallen for this 269 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:10,559 where they get in touch or somebody from their old high school days gets in touch 270 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:13,520 with them via Facebook and before you know it, they're talking to this person 271 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,480 for 3 months, four months. They're exchanging pictures. They're exchanging 272 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,640 family pictures. because they're exchanging information about where they 273 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:24,080 live, their vacation homes, and next thing you know it, your friend from high 274 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:29,760 school, who was maybe your boyfriend in in sophomore year is asking you if he 275 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:34,799 can transfer money into your bank account, not out, into your bank 276 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:36,640 account. And you say, "Well, I don't want to give you access to my bank 277 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,320 account." He says, "Well, I'm just transferring money in. I'm not taking it 278 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,600 out." [snorts] And you're 75 years old and you give them access to your bank 279 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:48,240 account. It's really common. 280 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:54,320 So, how do you prevent this from happening? 281 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:58,720 It's really very easy. Don't talk to strangers. It's that simple. Don't talk 282 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,760 to strangers. Don't give them information. Don't give them banking 283 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,840 information. Don't give them any information. 284 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,520 If somebody calls you and you don't know who it is before on my way here tonight, 285 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,960 my phone's ringing. I don't recognize the phone call. I could have hit answer 286 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:19,840 on my car. I didn't recognize it. no message. It's just a scam call. 287 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:23,559 Everybody gets them. But sometimes people pick it up. 288 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Lately, you're getting calls from numbers that look like they're from this 289 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:34,960 area because they're they're creating fake phone numbers to appear on your 290 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:39,520 phone. I forget what the term is. And you say, "Oh, it's an 845225 number. 291 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,559 It's got to be legit. Maybe it's a friend of mine. I haven't had a call in 292 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:48,159 four hours. I'm lonely. I want to pick up." and you pick it up and you say 293 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:52,000 hello and there's no answer and you say hello and there's no answer and you say 294 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:58,799 is anybody there and they're recording your voice and every time they do that 295 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:04,480 they get more voice information on you but not only that I was speaking to a 296 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:09,039 gentleman tonight says family members getting a ton of these calls what 297 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:15,840 happens is every time you pick up the phone that's a data that's a data post 298 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,440 for all these scam artists. They know that you are likely to pick up the 299 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,400 phone. You pick it up once and talk, you're going to get five more calls. You 300 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,840 pick it up twice, you're going to get 20 more calls. So, just don't pick up the 301 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,320 phone. Don't talk to stranger. You don't recognize the number. If it's somebody 302 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:31,320 you know, they're going to leave a message. 303 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:40,240 If anybody says to you they want you to be part of the investigation, 304 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:43,280 hang up the phone. If anybody comes to your house, and this has happened 305 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,520 because it happened to the woman who lost 50,000 bucks in Fountain Valley. 306 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:52,000 They actually came to her house and they convinced her that there was an there's 307 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:55,039 a problem going on at the bank and she gave them all the banking 308 00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:58,120 information because she thought they were agents. 309 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:05,039 This is really important and it sounds silly and it might be a pain in the 310 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:11,360 neck, but it's a good way to prevent any scams, especially from family members. 311 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:17,200 Have a code word with your grandkids or your kids. Just keep it to your family 312 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:21,919 whereby if if your grandchild's going to call you or your child's going to call 313 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:28,159 you and you you know your child's 38 years old, have a password. So if you if 314 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:34,400 I see my son's calling me, I pick up the phone. Password. Tomato feet. I know 315 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:39,600 it's him. Password. Oh, come on, Dad. Stop. Click. Hang up the phone. It's 316 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:44,480 serious stuff. So, I hear tomato feet all the time for my kids. Password 317 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:47,520 tomato feet. If they don't say tomato feet, I don't use tomato feet. I use 318 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,840 something much better than that. I hang up the phone 319 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:56,799 and it's it's no nonsense. And I have to say the same thing to them because it's 320 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:02,320 too dangerous. There this is happening. Uh last year in the United States over 321 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:07,520 20 billion dollars was stolen. 20 billion from scams. 322 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:11,600 So, it's something that's really, really serious. If you just stay vigilant, if 323 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:16,000 you don't let your guard down, if you don't talk to strangers, you're not 324 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,960 going to have a problem. They only are able to steal from you because you talk 325 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:25,760 to them. So, please don't do it. It's very easy to avoid it. Don't let your 326 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:30,159 guard down and you'll be fine. All right? So, I really appreciate the time 327 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,640 that you gave me to talk to you today. Um, it's a very important issue. It's 328 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:41,919 very sad when I got a call from a 82-year-old male or female who I know 329 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:46,799 and says,"I just lost 30,000 bucks." I said, "Why didn't you call me?" And 330 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:51,039 the answer is always the same. They sounded so real. 331 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:56,640 It's always that they sounded so real. So, if you think you may be a victim of 332 00:25:53,520 --> 00:26:00,159 a scam or you have questions about it, even mailings, 333 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:04,799 you might get Oh, this is a great one. I'm sorry I left this out. a fellow I 334 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:10,960 work with who's in the cyber security business received an envelope in the 335 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:16,640 mail from a law firm saying that he's part of a um 336 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,840 class action suit which he was three or four years ago and that he's got money 337 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:25,440 coming to him even though the suit that he was in was settled. So he's thinking 338 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:29,600 well maybe there's more money. So he calls 339 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:33,279 and as he's talking to the person, he says to himself, "Wait a minute. Wait a 340 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:38,000 minute. What am I crazy?" Hangs up the phone. 341 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:41,440 He takes the paper that he got. He looks up the law firm online. It doesn't 342 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:45,840 exist. The whole thing's fake. But he was about 343 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:51,919 to talk to somebody because they thought he had money coming to him. So it's 344 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:55,760 something is if they look up to see what law firms you've been in. They look up 345 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,919 to see what lawsuits you've had. This information is easily accessible to 346 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:04,080 anybody who's really good at at um technology. They can get a whole bunch 347 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:08,000 of information about you and they do. So, uh just be very careful about 348 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,520 anything. And if you have any questions, don't ever hes if especially if you're a 349 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,640 senior, don't ever hesitate to call the Putnham County District Attorney's 350 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,919 Office. All you have to do is say, "I'm a senior. I want to speak to Mr. Tendy. 351 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:24,640 If I'm in the office, I'll take your call. If I'm not, you'll speak to one of 352 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:28,720 my investigators. But please call the office. Don't do like two friends of 353 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:32,400 mine did who did not call me and they're they're friends. I said, 'Why didn't you 354 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:37,440 call me? Because they sounded so real. Just call the office or call the local 355 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,640 PD or call somebody, but don't talk to these people because you're going to get 356 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:45,200 you're going to get scammed and it's going to hurt. 50 grand is a lot of 357 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,120 money to somebody who's 82 years old and living on a fixed income. That's their 358 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,919 savings, right? It's really rough. So, please be vigilant. Please be careful. 359 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,760 All right. Any questions? >> I'm good. 360 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:56,880 » All right. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. 361 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,784 » Thank you for coming out today. Appreciate 362 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,804 » You're welcome. Take care. Thank you. [clears throat] 363 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240 » Don't forget your 364 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:15,360 » Okay. Uh number three on our agenda tonight is the 2027 Putnham County Real 365 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:20,320 Property Tax Services Contract. Um we have this on the agenda. I I know uh 366 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:25,559 Lori Bell, our tax assessor, is here. Could you talk to about this um item? 367 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:41,440 » Hi, good evening. So, every year the town enters into a contract with Putnham 368 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:46,799 County for various services. um mostly printing of tax bills, change 369 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:52,480 notices, um that the assessment role, the tax role, a few other things, tax 370 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:58,240 maps. And so the director over in Putham County was trying to come up with a more 371 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:02,799 um a fairer way to price those items depending on what which town wanted 372 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:05,840 which services. So a hard copy of a tax map is a certain dollar amount. A 373 00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:09,440 digital copy is a different dollar amount. And some towns still want the 374 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,640 hard copies, some are okay with a digital. How many copies of the role do 375 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:17,200 you want? Two, [clears throat] one, whatever. So, she worked through that 376 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:21,600 contract last year to come up with a flat rate per parcel for basic services 377 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:25,520 and then almost like a like a Chinese menu. You just pick whatever else you 378 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:29,440 want and you add it to the contract. And that's those are the items almost all of 379 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:33,679 them that I've checked off for that contract for 2027. And then they'll 380 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,960 calculate what the total cost to the town will be. I think for us, the way 381 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,360 she broke it out, we're going to spend a little bit more, but I guess it's fairer 382 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:44,080 to some of the other smaller towns, but it there's no change in the services 383 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,919 that we're going to get from the county is the bottom line. 384 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,600 » Okay. >> And they decided in the past they would 385 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,640 start the signatures at the county level and they circulate [laughter] it back to 386 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:55,360 the towns. It makes more sense that the town signs it first and then you get 387 00:29:53,840 --> 00:30:00,240 everybody else's signatures. That's why you have it prior to July uh June 388 00:29:58,159 --> 00:30:03,890 January 1. We weren't getting the fully executed copies until like April, 389 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200 halfway through the year. >> [snorts] 390 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,799 » So that's all that is >> and you're comfortable with it. So 391 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,640 » absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. >> Great. Thank you. 392 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,960 » You're welcome. >> Any discussion on this uh item? 393 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:21,039 » No. >> Uh item uh uh number four on our list is 394 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:28,080 a New York State Crest grant application. Um recently Senator Pete 395 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:32,240 Arkham uh reached out to our office um to tell us about a potential grant 396 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:36,000 application that we could apply for. Uh, so I did speak to some of the department 397 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:40,399 heads and uh, you know, we're just trying to narrow it down. Uh, the 398 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:45,840 application is due on September 11th this year. So I'd like to get ahead of 399 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:48,480 it, make sure uh, you know, we get a good application and hopefully have a 400 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,840 fair shot at one of these grant applications. $100,000 is a lot of money 401 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:56,880 certainly to the town of Southeast. Um, in speaking with Mike Berdick, our 402 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:01,279 highway superintendent, he does have a shovel ready project that he has at the 403 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:05,120 highway department that he would like to uh apply for, and certainly I think it's 404 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:10,240 a good idea as well. It's uh to rebuild the salt shed that they have. It was 405 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:14,631 originally installed in 1998. Uh they put a new roof on it in 2020, but it it 406 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:20,000 does need some renovation and painting. [laughter] And uh he has some estimates 407 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:25,520 that cost about 150 to $160,000 on that project. Obviously 100,000 would cover a 408 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:30,000 substantial part of it. Um so that's one project that uh I got from uh some of 409 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:34,399 the department heads also from uh our parks department. Uh we had a discussion 410 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,559 about Lake Tanetta. There was an old well at Lake Tanetta that is no longer 411 00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:42,240 active. They stopped using it years ago. No one really seems to be quite sure 412 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,799 when they stopped using it. Uh but they do have water that's supplied to the to 413 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:52,320 the restroom over there and to the um lifeguard room, the snack shack. And uh 414 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:56,000 we were thinking about potentially putting in a well there so we'd have 415 00:31:54,399 --> 00:32:00,960 good drinking water available to the people that go to that park. Um it also 416 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:04,960 would help with the restrooms because the water that they're using kind of 417 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:09,679 causes some plumbing issues as times goes by. Um we have a a rough estimate 418 00:32:08,342 --> 00:32:14,000 [laughter] that it's going to cost about 100,000 maybe a little bit more. So it 419 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:18,399 would be a great thing to apply for whether it's this year or maybe next 420 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:22,799 year. Um but something to think about. Another item that came up was security 421 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,720 cameras for all our properties, uh, our well systems in our sewer, uh, 422 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:31,440 districts. Uh, you've seen it on the news a lot lately. It's there's a lot 423 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:35,919 of, uh, chaos going on and you don't and having good legitimate security cameras 424 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,640 would benefit this, and I I think we could, uh, have a good application in 425 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:44,720 for that as well. U, but those are just three of the items that came forward to 426 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:48,080 me. And um you know if anybody has any other uh ideas certainly we have a 427 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,720 couple weeks to think about it and talk about it uh and then we'll put in an 428 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:56,799 application to the senator's office. Any questions or comments? 429 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,960 » Joe, I see that they're [cough] aimed at public safety. 430 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,480 » Mhm. >> Um [clears throat] 431 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:09,600 does that mean I mean we're allocated the money but is there any reason if it 432 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:14,480 wasn't public safety related that they could deny the application? Well, I 433 00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:18,559 » if it was a salt shed for instance, >> I asked that question and really didn't 434 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:22,159 get an answer other [cough] than, you know, everything goes towards public 435 00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:24,960 safety. And >> does a salt shed qualify? We're going to 436 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,519 have to make that decision in the next couple weeks. 437 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,679 » Yeah. Provide salt for the roads when it's snowing. 438 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,120 » No, I'm sure there's a way we could we could connect dots. Um, 439 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:37,519 » it's for the safety during the snowstorm. We definitely going to need 440 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:41,200 salt on the roads. It it seemed very vague to me when I asked about it. So, 441 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,279 it seems like it's open to a bunch of items. I mean, originally it was like a 442 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:49,360 police car, but we don't have a police uh department, that kind of stuff. Um, 443 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,720 the security cameras were one of the first things that came to my mind for 444 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:59,200 security purposes. [cough] And, you know, the health and well-being of the 445 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:04,320 the the park would be uh another thing. We'll look at it and try to narrow it 446 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:08,560 down to to something that's uh and the senator's office was great. Uh very easy 447 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,679 to talk to. Um, and >> I'm sure they would assist us and say 448 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,679 you're you're way off. That's not going to make it or 449 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,200 » I think they will. That's why I'd like to get ahead of it before September 450 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,960 11th. But we'll continue the conversation, I guess, unless you guys 451 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:21,960 have any other questions. 452 00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:35,200 » Okay. Uh, item number five on our list here is a discussion for 1460 Route 22, 453 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:42,879 Tax Map 57-1-14, uh, performance bond. uh establishment. 454 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:48,879 Um let's see here. Um so it was uh sent to us from the uh planning uh board, an 455 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:54,960 architectural review board. Um it is in the amount of $15,500. 456 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:59,839 Um this project has outside storage. It's a construction company that's 457 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:04,560 looking to take over the property. Um so estimated site improvements which uh 458 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:09,839 totals $39,300. [clears throat] There's inspection fees and other uh 459 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:14,800 involved there. $4,500. Um and it's in front of us to if we set 460 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:18,800 up a performance bond. Any questions, discussion? Nope. 461 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:25,599 » No. >> Okay. Item number six. 462 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:31,200 We have discussion um for APAP Land Management LLC, the Putinham County 463 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:37,289 Industrial Development Authority. This is payment in lie of taxes, a pilot 464 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:39,309 agreement for tax map 35-2-6. [clears throat] 465 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:46,720 » Hey, Mr. No, thanks for coming back. And um I just uh I asked for this to be 466 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,160 added. I know we're going to vote tonight, but I did have some um 467 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:53,119 questions since I wasn't here at the last meeting. I watched the video, but I 468 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,320 don't know that they were answered there either. And I just want to confirm some 469 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:04,000 things. So, just to confirm, you're we're not being asked to approve the 470 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:09,200 pilot itself. The pilot's approved, and this is to vote to um authorize the 471 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:17,680 supervisor to sign some paperwork that allows us to 472 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:22,720 be able to invoice the IDA for the money per the schedule that's being presented 473 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:26,800 as part of the already approved pilot. >> That's that's correct. We've we've gone 474 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:31,839 through the entire well actually the whole uh project has gone through the 475 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:35,920 entire process approval process >> and we don't authorize the project until 476 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,680 it's completed all of those authorizations. 477 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:47,200 » Okay. And then what we're asking you to do is we're notifying you that yes, we 478 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:52,880 we've come to this part now and because the IDA has taken hold [clears throat] 479 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:58,640 of the property, okay, we are a taxexempt uh operation and when we lease 480 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:03,599 it back to them, we send that to them so that they would be taxexempt. But rather 481 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:10,240 than do that, the legislation has set it up this way and our [clears throat] own 482 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:16,079 tax uh un Unified tax exempt policy uh has set it up so that we create this 483 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:22,000 pilot payment in le of taxes program where you get the value of uh the 484 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:27,280 assessed property that was originally there. So that that whatever the taxes 485 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:33,839 on that is that continues and then you get a portion in our case the typical 486 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:41,520 portion is 50% for uh the first year and then it goes in a cascading uh amount up 487 00:37:37,359 --> 00:37:46,320 to paying full amount over 10 years uh for the rest of the benefit or the uh 488 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,640 » improvements >> the 489 00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:50,960 okay >> the improvements [clears throat] 490 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:55,680 » the the improvements the improvements of the project Okay. And so that's that's 491 00:37:53,839 --> 00:38:00,480 what we're asking you to do is just basically sign the agreement so that we 492 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:04,480 can facilitate the processing and the administration of that uh process. 493 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,320 » Okay. Yeah. Thank you for clarifying that. Um we've gotten or I've been on 494 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:13,119 the board with other pilots and we've gotten beat up like we are giving a 495 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:17,440 discount and we shouldn't approve it. But if we we're not approving that. 496 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:21,680 We're just approving a signature to to get money or we get no money. That's it. 497 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,119 Those are our options. So, I do have two questions. You just actually hit on one. 498 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:33,359 I didn't hear it last time, but um my understanding was that the pilot only 499 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:42,000 applies to the improvements, but the IDA takes title of the property, leases it 500 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:46,240 back to the owner. So does how does the land value or the property 501 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:51,680 pre-improvements does that stay on the tax roll or is it 502 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,960 calculated that full amount today plus 50% of the 503 00:38:52,560 --> 00:39:01,359 » part of the arrangement is that you would get the value of the property the 504 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:06,720 property is uh the the tax bill that we get from Lori 505 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:11,440 is uh is a bill that shows us the full value of the property. property and then 506 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:18,000 the value of the the assessed value of the improvements with the discount based 507 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:23,839 on the pilot in whatever year it's in. And that's the bill that we pay. So the 508 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:27,040 bill comes from from her office. Okay. As opposed from the regular uh tax 509 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,400 office. >> Okay. So the whole property comes off 510 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,520 the tax roles. >> That's correct. They pay 100% of 511 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:40,880 whatever the land was or pre-improvement value plus 50% of the improvements. 512 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:44,240 » That's correct. Well, the first year and then 45, you know, 50 513 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:45,520 » and then and then we invoice for that amount. 514 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,920 » That's correct. >> Okay. Um and then my last question is 515 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:58,640 about the clawback. not has nothing to do with these two projects, but there 516 00:39:53,520 --> 00:40:01,760 are um or is a pilot on other big projects and part of that calculation 517 00:39:59,947 --> 00:40:05,920 [clears throat] was jobs. I think there were supposed to be a few hundred um but 518 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:11,839 it doesn't have to be specific about that, but 519 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:17,040 if job count commitment is not met, does that warrant a clawback? 520 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:23,599 » It it can and it does. it gets, you know, it gets looked at uh in the case 521 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:32,880 of one of the projects that was along uh Route 22. Um they the comp the company 522 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:37,440 had gone bankrupt and uh so it got a little crazy because we didn't give back 523 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:41,280 and turn the title back over to the town so that they could completely take care 524 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:48,240 of it. This was in the town of Patterson and uh you know it it it complicated 525 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:54,968 things but uh the clawback is something that's decided on by the board but our 526 00:40:51,520 --> 00:41:06,480 we have a policy for it and basically [clears throat] in our uh authorizing uh 527 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:11,680 uh lease we uh establish you know goals and then we re review those goals. 528 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:16,560 And if they don't make them, then there's the possibility depending on 529 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:21,040 what the problems are that we can claw back certain percentages and we have a a 530 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:24,880 schedule that that we would look at based on, you know, their failure to 531 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,119 meet the goals. >> And if there is a clawback, does that 532 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,599 get uh dispersed to the taxing authorities? 533 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,119 » I don't know because I've never done one yet. Okay. 534 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,720 » But I believe it does. It comes back and and and we get uh I think it goes back 535 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,000 to the state though. >> Okay. 536 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:47,920 » Okay. >> Um Okay. I just think Southeast is the 537 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:53,920 uh best town in Putnham County for development and economic growth and I 538 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:59,440 would like to see you know some more solicitation of businesses in but um 539 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:03,839 anyway you've answered questions. That's that's the important thing that the IDA 540 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:08,800 and the whole economic development team in Putham County is trying to do is 541 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:14,000 develop our commercial base so that we can, you know, ease the the burden on 542 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:19,119 the residential base and uh >> I guess the last two have been here 543 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:21,839 already. Um but anyway, uh you've answered my questions, so thank you. 544 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,160 » Yeah, >> thank you very much. Unless there's any 545 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,240 other questions. >> Any other questions? We're good. I just 546 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:30,880 have Bill at the end of the pilot period the property reverts back to the 547 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:36,560 property owner. Correct. >> At that time we return back or 548 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:39,440 » Yeah. We we return the uh the property well we return the title to the property 549 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,880 owner >> or the the original property owner and 550 00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:46,400 it goes back on the tax roll >> right at the full value at that time. 551 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,119 » Do they have to refinance it at that point? 552 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,920 » Excuse me. >> Do they have to refinance it? How how 553 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,960 does that work with the title change >> the title? No, it just that that's part 554 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,760 of the [clears throat] in our case it's like a $500 fee just to 555 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,200 return the fee the title. >> Okay. 556 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:06,000 » But it's uh >> you know it's just part of the closeout 557 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:09,960 of the the whole lease agreement. >> Thank you. 558 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,960 » Thank you. 559 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:17,839 » Okay. Uh item number seven is the exact same uh situation with the Kinsley Group 560 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:21,359 for development. Uh we won't rehash it again, but it is the Putin County 561 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:26,720 Industrial Development Authority. Uh payment in le of complaint is this pilot 562 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:30,800 agreement for tax map 7-2-252, but everything was just uh discussed, so 563 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:36,160 I don't think we need to belabor that anymore. And then I'll go to item number 564 00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:41,760 eight. That's discussion on the A districts that we're trying to have. Um 565 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,599 would you like to speak to that one at all because we don't have unless we have 566 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,720 somebody here? >> Yeah. Uh there's been an ongoing issue 567 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:54,800 with um uh some confusion around a districts and what um protections there 568 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:58,400 are aren't. Um we've invited the uh members of the a board to come. Um this 569 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,839 is like the fifth time they they were supposed to be here tonight. Uh they did 570 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:05,200 let us know two days ago they wouldn't be able to attend. So um I believe 571 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,440 they're going to attend the next meeting. So we'll put on for discussion 572 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:10,880 at that point. >> Hopefully Thursday, September 3rd. They 573 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:16,079 indicated they would be here. So hopefully we'll see. [clears throat] 574 00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:19,119 Okay. Uh, with that, I'm going to make a motion to go into our regular meeting. 575 00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:21,760 Do I have a second? >> Second. 576 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,359 » All in favor? I. >> Okay. Item number one, I'd like to make 577 00:44:23,839 --> 00:44:27,839 a motion to wave the reading of the correspondence. 578 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:33,119 » Second. >> Second. Thank you. All in favor? I. 579 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:38,280 » Um, number two, I'd like to make a motion to approve the vouchers in the 580 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,280 amount of 1,71,41.72. 581 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:48,720 » Second. Thank you. All in favor? I. >> Uh item number three, I'd like to make a 582 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,240 motion to wave the readings of the budget [clears throat] transfer and 583 00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:53,520 accept such transfers as submitted. Do I have a second? 584 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,680 » Second. >> All in favor? 585 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:01,359 » I. >> Great. Um item number four is um the 586 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:06,000 supervisor's report. I just want to give a brief update on what's some of the 587 00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:10,560 stuff that's going around in town. Um we're we remain in great financial 588 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:15,520 shape. uh we've begun the um budget process for the uh for the 2027 uh year 589 00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:18,720 and uh started speaking to all the department heads. Everything's moving 590 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,079 along nicely, so we're trying to stay ahead of the curve and get everything 591 00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:24,880 taken care of uh so we're ready for the budget season entirely. Uh we're 592 00:45:24,176 --> 00:45:28,800 [snorts] looking to make some improvements here at Town Hall and at 593 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:32,720 Lake View Manor. Uh we're in the process of getting some new doors for both uh 594 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:36,800 the town hall and Lake View Manner and that's moving along well. Uh also get 595 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,880 some new windows here at Town Hall. So hopefully we'll see some of these 596 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,040 improvements in the next couple of months. [clears throat] Um, 597 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:47,680 additionally, uh, we're looking at resurfacing the field in front of the 598 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:50,960 gazebo and the lecture zone field. Uh, as many of you know, it used to be a 599 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:56,079 baseball field or softball field. There was a lot of clay in the middle there. 600 00:45:52,960 --> 00:46:00,480 We got a lot of calls from youth uh, sports that wanted to use the field. I 601 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:04,800 think it'd be ideal for younger uh, people to use the field. Um, but in 602 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:09,520 order to do so, we're going to have to tear up all the clay, uh, fill it with 603 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,880 top soil. Uh, our highway department is, uh, ready and capable of doing it. So, 604 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,079 we've already had some discussions with them, and then we're going to seed it, 605 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,960 and hopefully by next year we'll be able to use it for youth soccer, lacrosse, 606 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:26,160 um, pee-wee football, or something to that effect. Um, with that, I went to 607 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:31,280 the Village of Brewster uh board meeting last night to discuss uh they have the 608 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:36,000 Tri-State parking lot there um right next to the gazebo. Um, a lot of the 609 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,640 feedback I got from the school and people that wanted to use the field was 610 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,520 there was no place to park. There's minimal parking there, but we have this 611 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:47,839 big um parking area that's called a tri-state parking that's owned by the 612 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:53,200 village. uh the village was very interested in participating in allowing 613 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:57,520 us to allowing these groups to use the field whenever there's an organized 614 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:02,240 event. Uh they were very kind to have the sunset uh concert series use the 615 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,520 parking lot during that time period. So late in the day and on weekends when 616 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,880 there's an organized event there, they're going to let us use their 617 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,839 parking facility which will be fantastic and make it um much nicer to get there. 618 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,520 And certainly it's a it's a gateway to the village of Brewster and it's a it's 619 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:22,240 a gem in the town of Southeast with the reservoirs in the background and I'm 620 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:28,319 hoping this all comes to fruition um as we move forward. Um and u I had the 621 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:33,359 honor of attending uh Putnham County Sheriff's substation naming in 622 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:37,040 Nelsonville today after uh late uh Sheriff Kevin McCall. It's a great 623 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:42,400 ceremony by the uh Putnham County Sheriff's Department. Um Kevin was a 624 00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:45,599 dear friend, outstanding guy and it was a really beautiful event they had over 625 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,839 there. So I was glad to attend on behalf of the town of Southeast. Uh finally I 626 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:54,560 I'd like to tell everybody that uh we got our first uh film permit issued 627 00:47:52,560 --> 00:48:00,079 which is exciting and uh you know hopefully more to come in the future. We 628 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:04,079 just passed the passed it recently and uh like the next day I got a call from 629 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,920 somebody who works for Netflix and uh they're going to be they got issued a 630 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:13,440 film permit. So, good stuff for town of southeast. And that's uh that's all I 631 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:20,240 have for the supervisor's report. So, we will move on to um item number 632 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:25,920 five. Uh setting of the uh meetings and dates uh public hearings. All meetings 633 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:31,040 will be held at 1360 Route 22 in Brewster, New York at 7 o'clock unless 634 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:38,319 otherwise noted uh for next month uh Thursday uh September 3rd, 2026 and 635 00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:41,359 Thursday, September 26 uh September 17, 2026. 636 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,319 » Second. >> Second. 637 00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:52,440 » Make a motion. Second. All in favor? I. >> And on next on the agenda, we have 638 00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:01,760 Uh, I have a resolution authorizing the supervisor to execute a non exclusive 639 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:08,559 cable franchise uh with Verizon New York Incorporated. 640 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:10,640 So, I'd like to make that motion. Um, do I have a second? 641 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,960 » You have to read it. >> I'll read the resolution. Sure. Um, 642 00:49:13,429 --> 00:49:18,880 [clears throat] it resolved that the supervisor is hereby authorized to 643 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:23,520 execute a cable television franchise agreement with Verizon New York 644 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:28,000 Incorporated for the provision of cable television service within the town of 645 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:33,680 Southeast in a form and substance that is approved by the town attorney and to 646 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:37,520 intend authorized to the extent authorized by New York State Public 647 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:39,599 Service Commission. I will make that motion. Do I have a second? 648 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,240 » Second. >> All in favor? I 649 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:49,680 » great. Thank you. Uh item number seven uh is another 650 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:53,520 resolution we have. This is again going back to the pilot agreements that we had 651 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:59,599 before that we just discussed. Uh the first one is for APAP Land Management 652 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:03,920 LLC. uh resolved that the town of South resolved that the town board of the town 653 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:09,599 of Southeast hereby approves the town's participation and in acceptance of its 654 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,880 application shares of payments made pursuant to the pilot arrangement 655 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:19,760 approved by the Putinham County Industrial Development Agency based upon 656 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:26,240 the following uh schedule actual only to increase the assessed violation of 657 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:30,880 subject premises attributed to the improvement ments made in connection 658 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:37,920 with the project. Uh first year is 50%, second year is 45%. Third year is 40%, 659 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:44,160 year four is 35%, year five is 30%, year six 25%. 660 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:50,160 Year 7 20%, year 8 15%, year 9 10%, year 10 5%. And be it further resolved that 661 00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:55,359 the clerk of the town of southeast is a authorized and directed to transmit a 662 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:59,440 certified copy of this resolution to the Putnham County Industrial Development 663 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:04,240 Agency and the assessor of the town of Southeast and the Town of Southeast 664 00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:06,400 receiver of taxes. I'll make that motion. Do I have a second? 665 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:10,680 » Second. >> All in favor? 666 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,680 » I I 667 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:18,319 » Okay, moving on to number eight. This is the Kinsley Group resolution. It's uh 668 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:22,720 the same as we just discussed a moment ago. be resolved that the town board of 669 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:27,920 the town of southeast is hereby hereby approves the town's participation and 670 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:32,559 acceptance in its applicical share of payments made pursuant to the pilot 671 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:38,240 arrangement approved by the Putnham County Industrial Development Agency 672 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:43,680 based upon uh the following schedule only only to increase the assessed 673 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:48,640 valuation of subject premises attributed to improvements made in connection to 674 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:56,160 the project same schedule as before Year 1 150% year 245% 675 00:51:51,520 --> 00:52:05,119 year 3 40% year 4 35% year 530% year 6 25% year 7 20% year 8 15% year 9 10% 676 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:10,240 and year 10 5% and be it further resolved that the town of southeast is 677 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:14,319 authorized and directed to transmit a certifi be it also resolved that the 678 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,960 clerk of the town of southeast is authorized and directed to transmit a 679 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,839 certified provide a copy of this resolution to the Putham County 680 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:30,079 Industrial Development Agency, the assessor of the Town of Southeast, and 681 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:32,480 the Southeast Receiver of Taxes. I'll make that motion. Do I have a second? 682 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,119 » Second. >> All in favor? 683 00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:38,280 » I. >> Thank you. 684 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:45,359 » And we're moving on to item number nine. Uh this is a resolution of the 2027 685 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:48,319 Putham County Real Property Tax Services as previously discussed tonight. uh 686 00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:54,480 resolved [clears throat] that the supervisor is hereby authorized to 687 00:52:51,040 --> 00:53:00,720 execute and deliver to Putnham County a uh a Putham County real property tax 688 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:09,440 service contract dated as of the 1st of January 2027 for the 2027 tax year in 689 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:14,319 the form and substance annexed here too and it and be it further resolved that 690 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:18,480 the town clerk shall forward a copy of this resolution to the assessor forth. 691 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:19,760 with. I'll make that motion. Do I have a second? 692 00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:23,520 » Second. >> All in favor? 693 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:30,800 » I. >> Okay. Item number 10. 694 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:37,480 Um, this is uh involving the uh 1460 Route 22 uh site plan uh tax map 695 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,480 57-4-1-14 696 00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:47,760 performance bond establishment. um the project name um be resolved. Um let the 697 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:53,839 bond in the amount be established for this project set forth the project name 698 00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:58,559 1460 Route 22 commercial site plan. Uh the bond amount the site improvements is 699 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:04,000 $89,300. The erosion and settlement and sediment 700 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,200 control $15,500. And be it further resolved that a 701 00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:12,240 certified copy of this resolution shall be transmitted by the town clerk to the 702 00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:17,200 planning board secretary and to the building inspector Fort W. I will make 703 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:21,800 that motion. Is there a second? >> Second. 704 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,800 » All in favor? I 705 00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:31,559 » item number 11 uh this evening is a big geyser. This is 22 Sutton Place tax map 706 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,559 78-2-16.3. 707 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:40,079 This is a release of a performance bond established uh establishment of a 708 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:43,359 maintenance bonds. So, uh, resolve that the town clerk is hereby directed to 709 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:48,960 cancel and return the original performance security for Big Geyser site 710 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:54,760 plan site plan, uh, 22 Sutton Place in Southeast, tax map number 78-2-16.3, 711 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:02,880 uh, in the remainder of the secured amount of 22,500 712 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:08,160 and to return any and all original bonds, 713 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:13,920 uh, deposits, letters of credit, dictionary 714 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:18,960 and of secured posted connected um connections with the project. Upon the 715 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:25,119 express condition that the applicant owner first file a landscape maintenance 716 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:32,079 bond in this in the security amount of 13,000 for a period of two years and a 717 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:37,359 storm water maintenance bond in the security amount of $14,500 718 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,079 for a period of four years. I will make that motion. Is there a 719 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:47,088 second? >> Second. Is there a type? 720 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,720 » There's a 14,500. [clears throat] 721 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,160 » You seconded. >> You seconded. All in favor? I 722 00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:55,400 » I >> Thank you. 723 00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:01,440 Then moving on to uh new business. If any town board member has any new 724 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,440 business they would like to bring forward. 725 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,839 » I do not. >> Okay. Being none, uh, we'll open it up 726 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:13,520 for, uh, recognition of the public for public comment. Please come up and state 727 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,280 your name if you could state your name and and, uh, Yep. 728 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:23,400 » right up front here. >> And you're at and you reside at 729 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:23,400 Southeast. So, 730 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:37,599 » hi. Good evening. >> My name is Joy Sarah and I'm a resident 731 00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:45,520 in Brewster here. And I would like to make the town aware of an incident that 732 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:51,359 occurred on July 29th at the building department in connection with a foil 733 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:56,480 request that I submitted. I wanted several copies of documents, 734 00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:02,319 most of which could be copied at the building department, but weren't because 735 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:07,680 the clerk assigned to assist me was incapable of making photocopies. 736 00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:13,839 I was told that I was not allowed to assist her. Ultimately, I was told that 737 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:19,280 I would have to return on Friday to pick up the photocopies that I could have 738 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:25,760 walked out with on Wednesday while I was there. I was also told by this clerk 739 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:32,319 that the copies would be made at a fee of the hourly rate of the lowest paid 740 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:39,680 employee of the town of Southeast. I was not told what that rate was, nor was I 741 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:49,680 told how long the process of inserting the single 8 1/2x 14 page and 26 11 by 742 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:54,400 17in documents into a document feeder to copy would take. 743 00:57:52,160 --> 00:58:01,200 Mind you that the consumer protection laws clearly state that employee time 744 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:07,520 may only be charged when the request involves other records, those that are 745 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:14,880 larger than 9 by 14 in or which are maintained electronically and even then 746 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:21,280 only in circumstances in which at least 2 hours of employee time are needed to 747 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:28,400 prepare the records. I picked up the documents on Friday, July 31st. I was 748 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:39,839 charged 50 cents for 27 11 by 17 in pages and 25 cents 749 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:46,240 for the 1 8 1/2 by 11 14 uh to 8 1/2 x 14inch page. Whether this was computed 750 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:51,280 as I was advised it would be or in some other fashion, I can't say because the 751 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:55,680 invoice I was presented with did not indicate. 752 00:58:52,880 --> 00:59:02,640 Contrary to the consumer protection laws governing foil requests, I was not shown 753 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:05,760 nor advised of a published fee schedule prior to fulfilling my document request. 754 00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:12,960 [clears throat] I also needed copies of three mapsized 755 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:20,000 pages that I was told had to be sent to the town engineer for copying at a fee 756 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:25,440 of $15 paid in advance. I paid the requested fee and I asked for a receipt 757 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:31,920 on town letterhead acknowledging the payment and noting the names of the two 758 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:37,520 documents I was paying for. The clerk refused to note the names of the two 759 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:43,280 documents on the receipt. Not only is it entirely reasonable for me to have asked 760 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:49,599 that the names or a clear description of the documents be noted on the receipt, 761 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:54,559 failing to do so cannot create a record of which documents my prepayment 762 00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:58,640 covered, effectively leaving me without proof of payment for the [clears throat] 763 00:59:56,079 --> 01:00:02,960 documents in question being reproduced and leaving the town vulnerable to a 764 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:08,240 claim that they failed to provide the requested prepaid documents. I waited 765 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:13,280 three weeks to receive those three pages. I [snorts] would like to point 766 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:19,280 out that under foil, records must be available for inspection and copying. 767 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:25,599 This is a direct quote, i.e. at at all reasonable times, i.e. during all hours 768 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:30,400 that the entity is regularly open for business. End quote. There must also be 769 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:36,960 a published schedule [clears throat] of fees if more than the 25 cent per copy 770 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:42,720 allowed by law is to be charged. I'm pretty wellversed on foil law. New York 771 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:48,240 State Association of Town Clerks, Association of Towns, and New York State 772 01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:56,400 Committee on Open Government all offer online courses on foil law as does Sunni 773 01:00:52,240 --> 01:01:01,839 Sunni Albany. I'm aed at the egregious incompetence of the clerk that I dealt 774 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:07,760 with. Not only did she lack the basic skill of photocopying, she had a huge 775 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:14,319 chip on her shoulder. It is disconcerting that the town with 776 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:19,839 our tax dollars pays for the services of such an unskilled, ill-mannered, and 777 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:25,040 unprofessional individual. I left there insensed and I wanted to 778 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:30,400 file a complaint with the attorney general's office and let them decide if 779 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:34,559 in fact the consumer protection laws were violated by the actions of the town 780 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:40,160 so that the town can be guided accordingly in the future. It is pretty 781 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:47,359 sad that I even have to come before this board with such a narrative. 782 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:50,079 So that is what I have to say. >> Thank you. Appreciate your time. We'll 783 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:54,240 certainly investigate it. >> Thank you. 784 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,960 » Oh, I'm getting your microphone here. Sorry. 785 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,960 » It's okay. 786 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:09,680 » And I waited two weeks to come here so that I could be civil 787 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:12,799 and not name names or or or detail the shenanigans that I had to put 788 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,359 up with. >> Well, we appreciate you coming out 789 01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:18,520 tonight. We'll take a look at it. >> Thank you. 790 01:02:23,368 --> 01:02:25,388 » [clears throat] 791 01:02:25,839 --> 01:02:29,920 » Hi everyone. >> How are you? 792 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:34,799 » I'm fine. Um my request is going to be simple then. Um 793 01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:38,079 what would be really helpful? I'm really interested in when the a districts are 794 01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:42,160 in front of you and I was very interested in the IDA and I'm not sure 795 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,240 how you can do this or if you can do this and certainly you don't need to 796 01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:51,280 hold a public hearing but is there any way I mean tonight Bill's still here but 797 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:55,599 is there any way to accommodate the public by allowing them to ask any 798 01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:00,048 questions at that point or does it have to be in a public hearing it's just or 799 01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:03,359 because I don't want I mean no one wants [clears throat] to hang out till the end 800 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:07,520 of the meeting till public comment so that's my question 801 01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:12,000 » for certain things we've like your favorite topic maple road you know we've 802 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:17,039 kind of opened the floor up um >> I know and that was really rough so I 803 01:03:14,319 --> 01:03:21,520 understand why it's not it's difficult >> you know for the a [clears throat] I 804 01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:26,960 thought about this for the a board I didn't know if any of the um a property 805 01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:33,760 owners would come in if they had I would have you know asked the board if it was 806 01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:38,960 okay if they could speak um but you know I I don't know if you're asking for like 807 01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:41,599 every topic. Um but you could always I mean there's usually only six people 808 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,520 here. You could always throw your hand up and we're pretty good at recognizing 809 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,119 people that want to talk. I think >> because I really don't believe it or not 810 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:53,280 I don't like to be disruptive during your meeting. But I do and I do love 811 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:56,960 public hearings even when on the planning board. But I'm just trying to 812 01:03:55,359 --> 01:04:00,240 think of how we can make it user friendly without being disruptive 813 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:04,559 because I know the Maple Road one I think went off the rails and and lasted 814 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,839 a really much longer than we would have thought. I mean, I was grateful to Joe, 815 01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:12,559 but I think it was rough. >> It was it was I think we've talked about 816 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,480 this. It's always good to let people >> Yeah. 817 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,119 » you know, get it out. Um >> Yes. 818 01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:23,280 » But I mean, if you if you want to ask a question and Bill wants to answer, I'm 819 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:26,960 have no problem with that. when the a um Will and I talked about this at one 820 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:33,039 point like you don't >> I I wanted to make maple or it may have 821 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:36,799 been another topic a public hearing but it's not a public hearing so you can't 822 01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:38,960 make it a public hearing but we can kind of open the floor up 823 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,559 » okay >> um 824 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,599 » so it could be case by case or or if someone were interested they could get 825 01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:50,240 in touch early and say that's something they want I mean because I admire 826 01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:53,920 » um Miss Zero had to you know waited through this meeting to speak her piece 827 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:57,440 and I I just think it's so important to hear the public and I know that you 828 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:01,920 » Yeah, I I don't disagree with you at all. Uh 12 years on the legislature, I 829 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:05,359 we had endless committee meetings on topics and we always had a great 830 01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:08,960 opportunity to talk to people and you've been to plenty of those meetings as 831 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:11,920 well. Uh we had great conversations with people and then when we had our full 832 01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:16,240 meeting at the end of the month or beginning of the month I should say uh 833 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:20,000 then it was for the legislators to make a decision and then hear afterwards. So 834 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,680 it's a learning process for me as well, but I am always open to if somebody 835 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:27,440 raises their hand to allow them to speak. I think that's always the best 836 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:31,119 thing to do in government. But case by case like you said and certainly call us 837 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:37,200 in advance anytime. >> The other thing we've done sometimes is 838 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:41,920 uh we've acknowledged it's controversial or that people are here. We've asked 839 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:44,799 that person to stay like I think for CAC one time we did that and it turned out 840 01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:48,400 to be a disaster because we made him stay for two hours. But we have done 841 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:51,920 that in the past too which is right helpful. But 842 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:55,440 » right well any way that this board can be accommodating would be really 843 01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:00,319 appreciated and I understand it's case by case and I have no problem calling it 844 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:06,319 advance as you know so um that would be great and I do have one question if you 845 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:11,359 don't mind Bill. Um, so I if the town, and I think this was handled really 846 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:15,760 well, but if the town didn't sign on on these two parcels, because they, one of 847 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:20,319 them certainly has been on in town for years, 848 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:25,280 would the IDA really not withhold our share of the taxes? 849 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,760 » That's a hypothetical question that I can't answer because I've never heard of 850 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:33,039 it happening. >> Okay. because it Yeah, it sounds to me 851 01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:37,119 » it's it's like hi, you know, yes, we could have taken all the money off the 852 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:43,200 tax roll and you guys would be, you know, left left hanging. But the answer 853 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:48,960 is that the legislature when it said this said that we had to set up a system 854 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:54,160 where we would get back the money that rightfully belongs to the the towns 855 01:06:51,680 --> 01:07:00,160 giving the benefit and the incentive benefits that we want to the uh project 856 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:05,760 and that's why we have that universal tax exempt policy that sets this up and 857 01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:11,119 that's that's what we use. So the answer is number one, I can never see somebody 858 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:14,720 saying, "No, we don't want your money." And number two, we we're trying to make 859 01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:18,160 it as easy as possible. >> Well, I I think it's a case of um and I 860 01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:23,520 know we don't want to go back and forth, but I think it's a case sometimes of the 861 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:29,119 the town really would like the full bill to be paid, not not have a pilot in some 862 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:35,200 cases, not all cases. And I think that's fair enough. Um, I'm not a big fan, as 863 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:40,240 you know, of pilots, but it seems to me, and I am not accusing anyone of a crime, 864 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:44,720 let's be very clear, but it seems to me it's kind of if you don't do this, I 865 01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:48,480 mean, life is full of this, you're not going to get your even if you don't vote 866 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,920 for this, even if you have good reason, we're going to withhold money from you 867 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,880 even though you're entitled. And that's >> that is not the situation. 868 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,880 » Let me let me just chime in here because I I was thinking about this too 869 01:07:56,766 --> 01:08:02,000 » [clears throat] >> um just now as you were talking. the the 870 01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:08,400 way I see what we approved and it's been so um 871 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:10,960 uh misrepresented in the past of what our actual role in this is, 872 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,880 » right? >> Um when I rewatched the meeting from 873 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:19,440 last week, something that uh clicked was that we have to invoice you for the 874 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:23,199 money. >> And this just seems purely 875 01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:27,679 administrative. like any company to set up like a vend we're almost setting up 876 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:32,880 like you as a vendor of ours so that we could send you a bill. So I think if we 877 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:37,199 voted no and again hypothetically and we said hey where's our money you guys 878 01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:40,000 would say sign this paper and send us an invoice, 879 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,960 » right? So it's almost like this this whole thing about pilots it's 880 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:46,799 » it's >> it seems like a dog and pony show and a 881 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,920 little bit of jazz hands thrown in. >> They're like a horrible show that nobody 882 01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:53,359 wants to watch. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's something I really 883 01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:57,199 don't like, but I appreciate you're sticking around and um that that does 884 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,920 clarify >> through the arguments. [laughter] 885 01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:05,960 » No, but um anyhow, um thank you all. I appreciate it. 886 01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:05,960 » Thank you. 887 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:19,199 » Hi, my name is Dashel. I'm a resident of the town and I also represent the Hudson 888 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:22,400 Valley Transparency Project. Um just I recently attended a meeting at the 889 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,600 Brewster Central School District and what they tend to do at the beginning of 890 01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:28,960 their sessions between the um work and the regular session and the pledge of 891 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:32,400 allegiance. They'll have a they'll have two public comment sessions. They'll 892 01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:36,239 have one at the beginning that's for agenda items only so that people can ask 893 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,839 questions of some people that might be there early in the meeting. And then 894 01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,279 they have a public comment that's just general. It could be on action items, it 895 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:47,759 might not be at the very end of the session, which I think that might 896 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:50,960 alleviate what um some of the concerns she had with not being able to ask 897 01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:55,280 questions of people who were going to speak here later. I think that um might 898 01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:58,080 be I can't think of the word, but a 899 01:09:56,719 --> 01:09:59,280 consideration for the board to take. Thank you. 900 01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:04,880 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 901 01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:14,280 » Uh oh, school board member back there. >> We also don't have time limits. 902 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:14,280 » Three minutes. Are you all you get? 903 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:21,040 » Uh Scott Seaman, Time of Southeast Bruce Board of Education. Like to thank him 904 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,920 for making the comment. I was going to make the same exact suggestion. 905 01:10:22,719 --> 01:10:26,763 » We'll do that if you get rid of time limits. 906 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,040 » I have no trouble getting rid of time. [laughter] 907 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:32,640 I when I first joined the board, the time limit was two minutes. 908 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:37,199 » I suggested five and they we agreed on three. So, and most people if you talk 909 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,080 past three minutes, >> no one's listening. you're out of 910 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:45,040 control and there's a problem. Anyway, so um we're uh full into finishing up 911 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:49,760 construction, getting ready school starting in a couple weeks. On Monday, 912 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:53,760 we do have the back to the den uh school event again where we um have a lot of 913 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,719 people members from the school, the sports, all the activities. We also 914 01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:00,960 invent our community, invite our community partners down to the turf 915 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:05,360 field and people come and talk and meet everybody and and get um you know better 916 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:10,159 feeling, get the young men and women prepared for school. Um everything else 917 01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:14,320 is, you know, we're hoping to have the uh Rosi Center and some of the interior 918 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:18,080 work done at the high school uh prior to work. Uh of course, we thank the town 919 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:23,199 for all the work they've done on all the adjoining roads and uh to get ready for 920 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:28,400 school and to get as much done before we send our 100 buses out onto the road and 921 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:34,239 back up traffic. Um and um over at CV Star, we're hoping the 922 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:38,800 cafeterium will be done. Um obviously it won't be done at opening but I think the 923 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:42,400 plan is either November uh October or November it'll be done so those students 924 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:47,920 can be the first ones to actually take place in having their own cafeteria and 925 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,880 their own gathering area. Right now they have to go to the middle school and it 926 01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:56,880 also frees up space that we can give back to the middle school um just to um 927 01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:01,120 alterations changes pull out a lot of additional work can be done. Um, and as 928 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,239 always, you know, we thank the town for the work you do on our behalf. And if 929 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:08,760 there's anything we can do, please let us know. 930 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,760 » Thanks, guys. 931 01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:20,640 » Okay. Unless there's anyone else, um, recognition of the town board for 932 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,640 town board comment. >> Any comments? 933 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,840 » No comments. >> Okay. 934 01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:27,199 I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Is there a second? 935 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,040 » Second. >> All in favor? 936 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,040 Thank