1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:14,160 you have before you the 2026 mill rate. Um we have a short presentation for 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:18,120 that. Um just to go over the millage and the calculation of that. 3 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:27,599 Just a reminder um the millage rate is a tax levy um for county purposes. It is 4 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:31,920 the tax rate per thousand dollar of assessed property value. And you 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:36,399 determine that by dividing your budgeted tax revenues by your total digest, which 6 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:41,360 is the value of the of the county, and subtracting any roll backs. Um the 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,920 taxpayers's bill of rights comes into play there. Um that requires a roll back 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:51,280 of the millage if there's significant net value from reassessment. 9 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:55,680 You have to calculate the value of that reassessment and subtract it from your 10 00:00:53,440 --> 00:01:00,719 prior year's millage rate. And that applies to all existing real property. 11 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:05,519 Um, if you do not roll back to that computed mill rate, you do have to 12 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:12,159 advertise a tax increase as a percentage and hold three public hearings. 13 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:18,640 Um, just as an example, if you had $100 million um, added from reassessment and 14 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:25,119 your digest was $2 billion and your prior year milit rate was 5.283, 15 00:01:22,479 --> 00:01:29,840 the millet equivalent of that $100 million is.264. 16 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:35,520 And so your roll back millage rate would be 5.019. 17 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:41,119 If you left your millage rate at 5.283, you would have to advertise a 5.26% tax 18 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:47,360 increase. Um, for the actual calculation, um, 19 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:52,560 there is $102.6 million added from reassessment 20 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:58,880 and your digest is 5.7 billion. Last year's millage rate was 5.051. 21 00:01:55,759 --> 00:02:07,200 So the millage equivalent of that 102.6 million is 091 mills. Um so your roll 22 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:13,760 back millillage for 2026 is 4.96. Um if you had left it at 5.051 you would 23 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:18,480 have had to advertise a 1.83% tax increase. 24 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Um there are several formulas that you use to calculate millage. The gross 25 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:27,840 millage is going to be all of your budgeted property tax and your local 26 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:31,760 option sales tax divided by that digest and then you have a roll back for the 27 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:36,720 local option sales tax which is that local option sales tax amount divided by 28 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:43,599 the total digest. The difference in those two is your net millage rate. 29 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:49,360 Um just a reminder on local option sales tax you know we have 8 cent here in 30 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Louns County. of that four cents goes to the state of Georgia. One cent is for 31 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:59,920 transportation splast which is for regional um transportation improvement 32 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:04,000 projects. You have your splast which is split between the county and the 33 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:07,920 municipalities and that's for capital improvements. 34 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Your education splast which is split between the school systems and that's 35 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:17,280 for capital improvements. and then local option sales tax which is split between 36 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:23,760 the county and the cities and that is for property tax relief and it has to 37 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:28,080 roll back your property tax. So this is a calculation of the M which 38 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:34,080 is your maintenance and operation millage um the countywide millage we're 39 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:41,280 discussing. Um again the total digest is $5.7 billion. Um your county taxes and 40 00:03:38,239 --> 00:03:47,760 your local option sales tax. Um your total taxes there are 48.9 or just just 41 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:52,879 under $49 million. So that gives you a gross millage of 8.581. 42 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:59,840 And then when you calculate that local option sales tax roll back that is 3.621 43 00:03:56,959 --> 00:04:05,200 mills which gives you the 4.960 which is the roll back millage. Um at the 96% 44 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,760 collection rate which is what we typically see in the first year of 45 00:04:06,959 --> 00:04:12,760 collection. That's about $27.2 2 million. 46 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:20,079 Your special district millages, um you have your industrial authority, which is 47 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:26,320 a countywide, um that is recommended to remain at 1.1 mil. Your rec recreation 48 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:30,160 authority, again, that's countywide at 1.25. 49 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:36,600 And fire services, which is in the unincorporated area, that is recommended 50 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,600 to remain at 2.5. 51 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:46,960 as an example for a property tax owner who lived in the unincorporated area. 52 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:50,880 This is comparing 2025 with 2026. Um if you had a property valued at 53 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:55,919 $200,000, the assessed value of that is 40% which 54 00:04:53,840 --> 00:05:00,000 is $80,000. You subtract your homestead exemption 55 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:04,720 that gives you a net taxable base of $74,000. 56 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Um, your county tax would go from $373.77 57 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:16,400 to $3674, which is a reduction of $6.73. 58 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:21,919 There's no change in the recreation or the industrial. Um, the county school 59 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:27,440 system is PL rolling back their millillage, so there's a reduction there 60 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:32,400 of about $172 and no change with the unincorporated 61 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:38,639 fire. So, your estimated tax on that same property overall is estimated to go 62 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:43,919 down about $24 for that same property that's located 63 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:49,120 inside the city of Valdasta. You would still see that same decrease of the 64 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:55,280 county tax. No change in the recreation or the industrial. Um, the city of 65 00:05:51,919 --> 00:06:01,440 Valdasta is proposing an increase. Um, so that would go up about $129. 66 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:06,319 Um the city schools are rolling back. So that goes down about $19. So overall 67 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,319 that tax bill would change by about $104. 68 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:18,960 If you look at the breakdown, um again, this goes back to the unincorporated. 69 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:24,160 For every dollar of taxes that you pay, about 22 cents of that actually comes to 70 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:29,759 Louns County. Five cents goes to the parks and recreation authority, five 71 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:36,319 cent to the industrial authority, 57 cents to the county school system, and 72 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:42,240 11 cents to the fire department. Um, for every dollar for someone inside 73 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:47,759 the city limits of Valdasta, about 17 cents comes to Loun County, 4 cents to 74 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:53,199 the recreation authority, 4 cent to the industrial authority, 28 cent to the 75 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,520 city of Aldasta, and 46 cent to the city school system. 76 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,639 If you look at the history of the millage rate, the bar that you see is 77 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:07,360 the county's millage rate, the countywide millage rate. And you'll see 78 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:14,080 at the 4.9 um that is about just about half of what 79 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:21,560 it was um back in 2005. It has significantly come down and it has come 80 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:21,560 down um every year since 2016. 81 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:29,599 Um looking at the property tax and budget history, this puts it in more of 82 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:39,039 a chart form. You can see that um from 2018 to 2026, the increase in the digest 83 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:45,280 value um of just over $3 billion to 5.7 billion. But you can see that the 84 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:52,639 county's um military has gone from 8.814 to 4.960. 85 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Um and while the budget has increased um over that time period um that next to 86 00:07:55,919 --> 00:08:04,319 last column there estimated taxes that is the tax revenue that that millillage 87 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:09,919 has brought in that has remained almost um the same through that time period. So 88 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:13,840 even though the the digest has increased and the budget has increased the amount 89 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:19,360 of tax revenue that the county actually takes in has remained relatively the 90 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:24,720 same. And this just puts that in a graphical form. Um this is on two 91 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:29,280 different scales. So the two lines go with the left hand side that's in 92 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:34,880 millions of dollars. Um that is your budget and your property tax. Um the 93 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:38,880 area goes to the right side which is in billions of dollars. That shows the 94 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:43,279 increase in the digest. And while you see that that dark line at the top, 95 00:08:40,959 --> 00:08:50,160 which is the budget increasing, the actual property tax revenue line has 96 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:55,040 remained relatively flat. And then finally, where does your money 97 00:08:52,160 --> 00:09:00,080 go? Um, this is just a breakdown of every dollar you spend and how that um 98 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:03,440 comes to the county. Nine cent of that goes to the board of commissioners and 99 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:08,320 administration. One cent goes to the board of elections. 100 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:12,640 two cents to the tax commissioner, three cent to the board of assessors, two 101 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,920 cents for engineering, 1 cent for contingency, 102 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:20,959 um, which are unexpected things that happen. 11 cents goes to all of your 103 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:26,880 court services, 36 cents to the sheriff's department, 2 cents for animal 104 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:31,839 services, 2 cents for emergency medical services, which is ambulance service. Um 105 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:38,560 all other public safety gets four cents, public works 12 cents, industrial 5 106 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:44,560 cents, recreation 7 cent, and all other which is um includes your outside 107 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:48,800 agencies gets about 3 cents. Um so with that, if there are no 108 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:54,800 questions, again, the countywide millage is before you and that's recommended to 109 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:57,200 roll back to 4.96 mills. >> Any questions for Miss Black? 110 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,399 » Stephanie, thank you for that presentation. Will that be posted on our 111 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,440 website? Yes, sir. >> Thank you. 112 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:07,279 » I I just wanted to say for clarity, uh I guess this reflects no tax increase for 113 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:09,200 the county, unincorporated parts of the county. Correct. 114 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:13,040 » Correct. >> I want to thank you and staff for 115 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:17,519 helping us save dollars in these trying times. 116 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:22,480 » Okay. Any other questions? All right. Commissioners, I'll entertain a motion. 117 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:26,320 » Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve the 4.960 mill. 118 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:31,040 » Yes, sir. >> Okay, we have a motion. Second. 119 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:34,160 » We have a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All in 120 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,120 favor signify by I. >> I. 121 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:42,240 » Any opposed like sign? >> Hearing none, the motion carries. Agenda 122 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,360 item 5B is the adoption of the special district millage for the industrial 123 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:49,200 authority. Miss Black, you've already kind of made some uh recognition to 124 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:54,240 that, so go ahead. >> Um, yes, sir. Um, prior to 2025, the 125 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:58,720 Georgia Department of Revenue required the millillage assigned to authorities 126 00:10:55,839 --> 00:11:05,519 to be included in that countywide mill, but with the adoption of House Bill 581 127 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:09,760 and um, related legislation, the mill assessed for authority funding is now 128 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:14,320 considered a special district and is adopted separately. Um, the proposed 129 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:19,200 mill for 2026 for the industrial authority is 1.1 mills, which is no 130 00:11:16,959 --> 00:11:24,959 change from 2026. Any questions for Mrs. Black? Hearing? 131 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:29,600 None. I'll entertain a motion. >> I make the motion to adopt the 132 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Industrial Authority Mill at 1.1. >> Okay. We have a motion to adopt the 133 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Industrial Authorities uh special district millage at 1.10. 134 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,519 Do I have a second? >> Second. 135 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,640 » I have a second by Miss Evans. Any discussion? 136 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All in favor signify by I. I. 137 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:52,240 » Any oppose? Like sign? Hearing? None. Motion carries. 138 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:55,200 Agenda item 5C is the adoption of the special district millillage for the 139 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,399 parks and recreation authority. Miss Black. 140 00:11:55,680 --> 00:12:03,279 » Um yes sir. Um as the same as the prior one, um this is now a special district 141 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:08,160 mill and has to be adopted separately. Um parks and recreation has been set at 142 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:12,560 1.25 mills since it was first implemented and there's no propose 143 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:17,120 proposed change in that. >> Any questions for Miss Black? Hearing 144 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:19,760 none, I'll entertain a motion. Motion to approve. Okay, 145 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:24,320 » we have a motion to approve the special district millage for parks and wreck at 146 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:27,519 1.25. Do I have a second? >> Second. 147 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:31,040 » I have a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All in 148 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:35,839 favor signify by I. >> Any oppose? Like sign? Hearing? None. 149 00:12:33,839 --> 00:12:40,000 The motion carries. Agenda item 5D is the adoption of the 150 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,360 special district millage for fire services. Miss Black. 151 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:49,279 » Um yes, sir. Thank you. Um following the board's approval to expand fire services 152 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:55,040 in fiscal year 2022, a special district was in um created that includes the 153 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:59,680 unincorporated area and that fire um millillage has been set at 2.5 mills um 154 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:04,639 since its inception and there's no recommended changes. 155 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:07,760 » Okay, any questions for Miss Black? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion. 156 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:12,639 » Mr. Chairman, I move we adopt the special district millage for fire 157 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:17,279 services at 2.5. Okay, we have a motion to adopt the special district millage 158 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:18,320 for fire services at 2.50. Do I have a second? 159 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,440 » Second. >> Have a second by Miss Evans. Any 160 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,519 discussion? >> Hearing none, we'll call the vote. All 161 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:30,800 in favor signify by I. >> Any oppose? Like sign? 162 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:36,160 Hearing? None. A motion carries. Agenda item 5E is batch one of 163 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:40,880 resurfacing group for the transportation improvement act known as TIA. And this 164 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,240 is the project agreement for that resurfacing. Mr. Mloud. 165 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:49,680 » Uh yes, sir. Thank you. The board approved the TIA local delivery 166 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:55,920 application for batch one resurfacing project on July 28th, 2026. 167 00:13:53,519 --> 00:14:02,000 G DOT has approved that application and sent staff the project agreement to be 168 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:07,360 approved by the board. Uh staff cannot begin any part of the process to 169 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:15,720 construct the project without this agreement. Uh the agreement is eligible 170 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:15,720 for the project cost up to 13,134,000. 171 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:26,639 Uh this is T2 project and resurfacing 36 county roads. 172 00:14:24,959 --> 00:14:30,880 » Any questions for Mr. Mloud? >> We have a total of the mileage of all 173 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:34,480 these roads. It is fif just a little over 52 miles. 174 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:39,279 » Thank you, Chad. >> A lot of new roads, 175 00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:43,360 » huh? A lot of resurfacing on roads. >> All right. Any other questions? Hearing 176 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,800 none. I'll entertain a motion. I >> move we approve and authorize you to 177 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:51,600 sign those documents. >> Okay. We have a motion to approve and 178 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,000 occupi occupi authorize the chairman to sign the documents. Yes, sir. 179 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:57,519 » Second. >> Any discussion? 180 00:14:56,079 --> 00:14:59,600 Hearing none, we'll call the vote. All in favor signify by I. 181 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,480 » I. >> Any oppose? Like sign? Hearing? None. 182 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:10,480 The motion carries. Agenda item 5F is the Twin Lakes Road 183 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Paving and drainage improvements. Again, this is a TIA Transportation Investment 184 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:19,680 Act uh project and this is supplemental agreement number one. Mr. Mloud. 185 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:28,480 » Uh yes, sir. The original agreement dated 1228 of 2022 with G DOT has a not 186 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:33,839 to exceed amount of 2.1 million for Twin Lakes Road. Uh staff has requested the 187 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:38,959 TIA office for an additional funding request 188 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:41,959 of 1.389 million1,389,400 189 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:51,000 uh to cover the remainder of the project for a total of 3,489,400 190 00:15:54,639 --> 00:16:02,560 » and Tia has agreed. >> Tia has agreed. Uh they've sent the 191 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:05,360 supplement agreement number one for you to approve. 192 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,040 » Gotcha. Okay. >> Any questions for Mr. Mloud? 193 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:13,839 » That's really just the difference between bidding something and estimating 194 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,480 something in 2022 versus >> Oh, absolutely. 195 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:21,040 » So, it's not that it was >> this is this is the difference in 196 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:24,959 estimating 2018 versus 2026. 197 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:28,959 » So, there's no scope change or That's correct. Or no. Okay. 198 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,040 » This has already been started. >> That's correct. 199 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,480 » When will that road be completed in a rough estimate? 200 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:40,480 » 15 months. >> Also in the keep in mind in the in the 201 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:46,480 TIA operation, they build in a certain amount of revenue out of that 1 cent for 202 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:52,160 inflation issues. Tia one that we've just finished with. Um they they 203 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:56,000 basically really was underestimating every or actually overestimating 204 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:59,920 everything, underestimating the the revenue. That's the reason why it ended 205 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:05,760 a little earlier because the revenue came in. Um, and so really the inflation 206 00:17:03,199 --> 00:17:10,160 factor wasn't really touched much on Tia one until right at the end. Uh, so 207 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:15,360 there's still revenue there for inflation, but yet TIA 2 also they build 208 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:19,120 in an inflation factor in there just for this purpose. 209 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:23,520 » Makes sense. >> Okay, there's no other questions. I'll 210 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:28,160 entertain a motion. Motion to approve the supplemental agreement number one 211 00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:31,440 and authorize the chairman to sign. >> Okay, we have a motion to approve 212 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,440 supplemental agreement number one for the Twin Lakes road paving and drainage 213 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,480 improvements and authorize the chairman to sign the documents. Do I have a 214 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:41,760 second? >> Second. 215 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:45,360 » Have a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All in 216 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:51,919 favor signify by I. I. >> Any oppose? Like sign? Hearing? None. 217 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:57,360 The motion carries. Agenda item 5G is the 2026 community development block 218 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:01,440 grant disaster recovery funding application and this is in regards to 219 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:07,520 any conflict of interest. Mr. Mloud. >> Uh yes sir. Loun County intends to apply 220 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:12,559 for the 2026 CDBGDR for improvements to Riverside Road. As 221 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:17,520 part of the application, Loun County must comply with federal conflict of 222 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:22,960 interest regulations. If an employee, agent, consultant, 223 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:27,440 officer or elected official of the state or of a unit of general local 224 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:33,600 government, or if any designated public agencies or subreients 225 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:39,600 could be affected in any way by CDBGDR funding, a full disclosure must be 226 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:43,600 submitted to DCA as part of the application. 227 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Additionally, the person or persons affected must not participate in project 228 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:55,760 discussion, planning, or voting. Uh staff has done some due diligence. We're 229 00:18:52,400 --> 00:19:01,360 not aware of any conflict of interest related to the proposed application 230 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:06,000 target area uh based off of our research. And what we would ask is the 231 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:10,000 commission to discuss this as you already have to determine that there is 232 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:15,679 no conflict of interest. >> Okay. Any questions for Mr. Mloud? 233 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:18,880 Commissioners, uh, unless there is a conflict of interest someone would like 234 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,799 to bring to everybody's attention at this point, then I would entertain a 235 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,679 motion. >> Motion to approve. 236 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:26,799 » Do we have a motion to approve? Do I have a second? Second. 237 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,320 » Have a second by Miss Evans. Any discussion? 238 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:35,280 Hearing none, I'll call the vote. All in favor signify by I. 239 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:41,440 » Any oppose? Like, sign? Hearing? None. The motion carries. Agenda item 5H is 240 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:46,720 the 2026 community development block grant disaster recovery. Again, the 241 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:51,840 CDBGDR funding application and this is the engineering selection. Mr. Mloud. 242 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:57,360 » Uh yes, sir. As part of the same project and the same grant application, Loun 243 00:19:54,240 --> 00:20:03,840 County has to select a civil engineer through an R RFP process. Staff prepared 244 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:09,520 and advertised the RFP. staff received 11 submissions, 10 that met the 245 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:14,960 requirements. Uh these scores we provided to you yesterday morning. 246 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:21,039 Uh the top three were Level Engineering and Associates, Innovate Engineering, 247 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:28,159 and Axis Engineering. All three of those are local firms. Uh they scored in that 248 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:35,520 order. And then the cost level was at 12% of construction. Innovate was at 9% 249 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:38,520 and Axis provided a lump sum price of $255,000. 250 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:45,120 » Okay. Any questions for Mr. Mloud? All right. Hearing none, I'll entertain 251 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:50,400 a motion. >> Mr. Chairman, that seeing that the 252 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:54,799 estimated construction cost was uh according to Mr. Mloud was around $4 253 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:59,919 million. I see that as being the difference between 9% and 12% being 254 00:20:57,679 --> 00:21:05,039 roughly $120,000. So my motion would be that we approve 255 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:08,080 innovate engineering as the engineer of record for this. 256 00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:10,799 » Okay. So we have a motion then to approve innovate engineering as the 257 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,840 engineer. >> Second project. 258 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,520 » Do I have a second? >> Mr. Marshall, was that a second? 259 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,840 » Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. So we have a second. 260 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,039 » All right. Any discussion on the motion? Hearing none. I'll call the vote. All in 261 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,400 favor signify by I. >> I. 262 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:32,240 » Any oppose? Like sign? Hearing? None. The motion carries. 263 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:37,919 All right. Agenda item five. I is the 2026 community development block grant 264 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:41,840 disaster recovery. Again, the CDBGDR funding application. And this is the 265 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:46,960 submittal resolution. Mr. Mloud. >> Uh yes, sir. Again, as part of the same 266 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:52,080 uh project and application for Riverside Road, the attached resolution is 267 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:57,280 required to be approved by the board before staff can submit the application 268 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:01,600 for the grant. The resolution simply states the facts related to the 269 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:07,120 application and allows the Southern Georgia Regional Commission to complete 270 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:11,360 and submit the final application. >> Okay. Any questions for Mr. Mloud? 271 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,520 » No, Mr. Chairman, I'd just like to uh personally thank Chad um Paige, 272 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,120 yourself, and the remainder of the commission, Pastor Morgan, and the 273 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,840 residents of that area for helping us make this happen uh for them. 274 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320 » Yep. >> Thanks. 275 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:28,159 » Well, again, we're we're we're praying that it is going to happen because we've 276 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:32,480 got to be awarded the the grant, but yes, the process of going through the 277 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,559 applications, working with the South Georgia Regional Commission to help 278 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:40,400 guide us through the the grant process. Again, everybody has really uh done a 279 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:45,120 great job and pulled together because this turns out to be a very significant, 280 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:50,480 very important road. Uh really didn't really show itself until we had all the 281 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:54,559 storms uh in place and because there is a an African-American cemetery on that 282 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:59,280 road. As I've said, we we've actually had some incidences where funerals would 283 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:04,000 have to be postponed because they just could not get down the road. It was that 284 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:08,320 bad. So hopefully this will this is going to eliminate all that and and 285 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:11,919 we'll have a good area over there. So >> when when would we we know if we're 286 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:17,760 awarded? >> So the grant application if I'm not 287 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:22,880 mistaken is due October the 5th. It was September 5th and they moved it to 288 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:26,159 October and then typically by the end of the year first of the year we would get 289 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:31,919 notice >> of award or not no award. 290 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,400 » Okay. Any other questions? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion. 291 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,039 » Motion to approve. The chairman to sign the resolution. 292 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,480 » All right, we have a motion to approve and authorize the chairman to sign the 293 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:43,360 resolution. Do I have a second? >> Second. 294 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,480 » Have a second. Any discussion? >> Hearing none, we'll call the vote. All 295 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:50,080 in favor signify by I. >> I. 296 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:55,600 » Any oppose? Like sign? Hearing? None. The motion carries. Agenda item 5J is a 297 00:23:53,520 --> 00:24:00,000 data center moratorum on accepting applications for permits. uh yesterday 298 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:05,120 morning at the work session you heard from M Miss Dukes. I know she regrets 299 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:10,240 she's unable to be here this evening uh because she's just a little under the 300 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:14,000 weather. So um commissioners if unless you have any questions in regards to 301 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,520 that over what we discussed at work session then I will entertain a motion. 302 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,600 » Mr. Chairman I move that we approve resolution as presented. 303 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,840 » Okay. We have a motion to approve the resolution as presented and that does 304 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:30,240 include a 60-day moratorum on the application uh for permits. 305 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:33,520 » So, do we have a second? >> Second. 306 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:37,279 » We have a second. Any discussion? >> Hearing none. I'll call the vote. All in 307 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,279 favor signify by I. I. >> Any oppose like sign? 308 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:46,880 » Hearing none. The motion carries. Thank you, commissioners. 309 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:52,080 Please. Thank you very much. All right. We'll now move on to agenda item 6A and 310 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:57,760 this is the one bid item that we have and this is for the land application 311 00:24:54,799 --> 00:25:02,559 system known as LA. This is the holding pond sludge removal. Mr. Stalin. 312 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:07,440 » Yes, sir. Due to buildup of sludge over several years, the 25 acre holding pond 313 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:11,440 at the L needs to have sludge removed. Staff in conjunction with Carter and 314 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:18,520 Sloop Engineering advertised for bids to have the sludge removed. Five companies 315 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,520 submitted bids ranging from $914,240 316 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,960 to $6,681,594. 317 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:32,600 Tenderwater LLC doing business as Southeastern Environmental Service 318 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:32,600 submitted the low bid of $914,240. 319 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,880 However, after reviewing its exper its experience, 320 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:44,400 staff and Carter and Sloop Engineering have determined that it does not have 321 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:48,880 the capac the capability in all respects to perform fully and reliably the 322 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:53,880 contract requirements. BAM 2 Incorporated submitted the next bid of 323 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,880 $2,978,848 324 00:25:54,559 --> 00:26:01,600 and met the contract requirements of the bid documents. Staff recommends the 325 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:05,440 board reject the bid of Tindlewater LLC doing business of Southeastern 326 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:10,279 Environmental Services and accept the bid of BAM 2 Incorporated for 2,978,848 327 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,760 and authorize the chairman to sign the agreement. 328 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:22,679 » Okay. Any questions for Mr. Staly? >> All right. Hearing none, commissioners, 329 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:22,679 I'll entertain a motion. 330 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:31,840 » Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve BAM 2 incorporated 331 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,120 uh as the bid um for this project. >> BAM two. 332 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:38,320 » BAM two. >> Okay. We have a motion to approve BAM 2 333 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:39,440 uh for the bid on the project. Do we have a second? 334 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:44,720 » Second. >> We have a second. Any discussion? 335 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:51,120 » Hearing none. I'll call the vote. All in favor signify by I. I. 336 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:54,799 » Whoops. Let's show your hands. There we go. Unanimous. Thank you very 337 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,840 much. All right, we'll now move on. Well, we 338 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:02,240 won't move on to the county manager report because Miss Dukes is not with us 339 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:08,000 tonight. Uh, but we will move right on into our citizens wishing to be heard at 340 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:13,679 this time. Um, let's see. We will start with Miss Teddiana Babcock. 341 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:18,600 If you would please come forward and state your name and address for the 342 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,600 record, please. 343 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:33,919 All right. My name is Tatiana Babcock. >> Please. 344 00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:36,960 And I live at 3561 Ski Range Road. And I wanted to point out we do have a large 345 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:40,400 nonpartisan group here tonight. And I want to welcome them as well. So, good 346 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,480 evening chairman, commissioners, and neighbors. Our county manager, Miss 347 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:49,440 Paige Dukes, has spoke about rising cost, housing, rent, and everyday 348 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:53,360 pressures on families. That concern is real. A lot of us feel it every month 349 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:58,080 when the bills come due. So I ask a simple question. If we are truly worried 350 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:02,880 that people cannot afford rent and the cost of living, why would we welcome an 351 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:08,399 industry whose entire purpose is to replace the human work with machines. 352 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,559 These are not ordinary warehouses. These are AI data centers. They exist so 353 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:18,480 companies can run artificial intelligence at massive scale. The same 354 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:25,120 AI already taking jobs in customer service, bookkeeping, dispatch, legal 355 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:31,039 research, insuranceances, logistics, and parts of the healthcare and 356 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:35,120 our education. Reports show AI is eliminating thousands of jobs every 357 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:40,399 month across the United States and those numbers are accelerating. That is the 358 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:45,120 business model. A hyperscale facility does not hire hundreds of local families 359 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:50,399 for the long term. Construction jobs, they do come and go, and even those are 360 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:55,520 not guaranteed to the locals. After the concrete is poured, you're left with a 361 00:28:52,480 --> 00:29:00,880 small crew, security, a few technicians, and remote operators who may not even 362 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:05,440 live here. The computers inside work 24 hours a day doing work that used to 363 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:09,279 require people. Here's the contradiction. We hear concern that 364 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:13,600 families cannot keep up with rent and groceries. Yet we are asked to accept a 365 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:17,679 project that shrinks the future job market our children will be walking 366 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:21,919 into. You cannot say you care about affordability and then help build the 367 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,679 infrastructure that makes good local jobs disappear. 368 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:30,559 And this is where the disconnect becomes impossible to ignore. Leadership in this 369 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:34,799 county has grown disconnected from the people who actually live here. When 370 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:40,640 residents show up meeting after meeting with real concerns about noise, water, 371 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:45,039 power, sink holes, property values, and their children's futures, their 372 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:50,559 responses, and often a carefully worded presentation, vague assurances, and the 373 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:56,240 message that we just don't understand. Hard questions are treated as uninformed 374 00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:01,200 or emotional instead of as citizens who know their own land and know their own 375 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:06,080 lives. That is not leadership. That is distance. If officials lived the same 376 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,840 daily pressures, the same rent, the same power bills, the same worry about 377 00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:14,559 whether their kids have real careers here, they would not treat a hyperscale 378 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,960 AI data center as just another economic developmental site. They would feel the 379 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:22,799 same fear we feel when something this large is pushed towards residential 380 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:28,320 neighborhoods with so little transparency and so few permanent local 381 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:33,360 jobs. If fewer people have stable work, rent gets harder. Young families leave. 382 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:37,679 Kids grow up watching opportunity move somewhere else. Our children will 383 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:42,320 inherit three things from the decisions that are made in this room. First, their 384 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,000 jobs. If we train them for careers that AI is designed to replace. We are 385 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:51,200 setting them up to compete with a machine that never sleeps and it never 386 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:56,080 asks for a raise. Second, their cost of living. Data centers demand enormous 387 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:00,320 power. Residents across the state have already learned that the new loads 388 00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:04,960 change the whole system. Generation, transmission, long-term rates. Our kids 389 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:09,520 will live with those costs for decades, not for one election cycle. And third, 390 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:14,960 their home, a hyperscale site next to neighborhoods. It changes the noise, the 391 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:19,440 light, traffic, water demand, and the character of the land. In a county with 392 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:24,799 sinkholes and carsted, this is not a small risk. Tax money cannot replace a 393 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:29,760 job that no longer exists. Tax money cannot buy back quiet neighborhoods. Tax 394 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:34,720 money cannot give a teenager a future if the work that built this county has been 395 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:40,960 automated away. If the county is serious about people being able to afford rent, 396 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:46,640 protect the things that let these people earn a living, such as local jobs, 397 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:50,799 stable utilities, safe land, and a community that's worth staying in. Do 398 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:55,519 not tell us you're worried about the cost of living while paving the way for 399 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:59,919 an industry that treats human labor as the problem that needs to be solved. And 400 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,919 do not stay so disconnected from the people of Loun County that you can no 401 00:32:01,919 --> 00:32:09,440 longer hear them when they say clearly and repeatedly, "We do not want this 402 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:14,880 next to our homes." Put a real moratorum in place. Finish a strong ordinance 403 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:19,840 before any permits. Put our children's future ahead of a speculative AI campus. 404 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:24,720 Our kids should not have to pay the price for decisions made without them 405 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,960 and without us. Thank you. >> Thank you. 406 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,840 » All right. Our next speaker, Mr. George Fiser. Please come forward and state 407 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,840 your name and address for the record, please. 408 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:46,640 » Good evening. My name is George Fiser. I live at 5278 Hall Road in Hehyra, 409 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:53,840 Georgia. Uh, I've been working, as you know, on 410 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:58,720 what lies beneath our limestone. We all agree is a carsted limestone. It's got a 411 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:04,320 lot of tunnels and caves in it. What I've been doing for the last two or 412 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:12,720 three months, I've looked at 22 different images, satellite images 413 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:19,200 over our county. I've looked at uh from 1993 414 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:26,799 to December 26th, 2025. We have satellite images. These images are taken 415 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:32,720 right above the site. Uh they sort out. We don't have clouds. We don't have 416 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:39,120 rain. We can see what is there uh very well. What I've been looking for are 417 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:43,840 trying to identify any carsted features on the surface. What can you see on the 418 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:49,679 surface? Are they indications of anything below the surface that should 419 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:54,399 be a concern? I've also looked closely at existing places that have been 420 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,679 studied including Shadri Sinkhole, Shiloh Road, Riverchase, Ocean Pond, 421 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,519 Twin Lake, Snake Nation Road, and Camelot Crossing. I've looked at all of 422 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,799 those in detail. I can actually make it like a movie. I can get an image up 423 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,280 there and I can flip back and forth, flip back and forth, change the seasons, 424 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:17,599 change the the angles. I can rotate the angles. Um, a lot of the terminology 425 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:24,000 that we use is a little confusing because a lot of this work came from uh 426 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:27,760 Slovakia and Croatia. So there it's in a Slavic language. So there's kind of hard 427 00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:36,079 to pronounce. So I'm just going to use simple terms ones here. Um, 428 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:43,359 all of my ideas, everything technically that I speak here, I have vetted. I send 429 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:48,879 my notes to recognized professors of hydrarology, of geology. I've got a uh 430 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:53,520 former fellow I worked with that lives in Perth, that's Australia, is one of 431 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:58,079 the premier hydraologists in Southeast Asia. And I get it vetted. I said, "Do 432 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,800 you see anything in what I'm saying that's incorrect or is not right?" 433 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:07,440 Occasionally I get feedback and usually my illustrations are exaggerated. You're 434 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:12,320 you've compressed it too much. It's indicating this. So I I change my 435 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:17,760 illustrations that I don't show. What I have found is where the data center is 436 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:24,160 going to be located off of Coleman Road. I've identified potentially two large 437 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:29,359 dissolution features. I've named them Mut and Jeff for the lack of a better 438 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:35,760 word. Uh mut is about 500 feet in diameter. Jeff is about 400 feet. They 439 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:41,920 are indicated on the 1998 Georgia soils report as wetlands, as a circle, as a 440 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:46,640 depression. They're on the crest of the feature, which means they're not bogs. 441 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:54,000 The crest of the feature, the water would drain off. A recent aerial view of 442 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:59,359 that reveals water in both of these things. A lot of wa water. So my concern 443 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:05,359 is that they are in communication from the surface down to the aquifer. The 444 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:12,160 overlying rock, the Hawthorne group is very shallow there. In fact, the whole 445 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:15,599 the whole county dips down to the east as far as our aquafer and the 446 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:22,400 overburden. So it's very very very shallow there. very near the surface. 447 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:27,359 These depressions are aligned in a line that's probably due to a compressional 448 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:32,720 fra fracture that uh compress pressed this um 449 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,400 and they are designated wetlands. So, we have to be very careful with the 450 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:40,640 wetlands. I've also looked at other features that I mentioned last time here 451 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:46,880 to the east of the railroad tracks going down to the river. What I'm looking for 452 00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:52,000 there are depressions, slope failure, dissolution creasses, 453 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:58,560 fluial washouts, and changing string patterns, and even some trees that are 454 00:36:53,839 --> 00:37:04,320 knocked over there. Um, so that's what I've been doing. And I do 455 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:08,160 want to correct a previous statement I made when I'm talking about the aquifer. 456 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,920 I really want to change that when I speak about the groundwater 457 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:17,680 there. I've been talking about the aqua aquafer aquafer but in researching some 458 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:22,720 of the hydrarology it's really the groundwater that is my concern you know 459 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:28,240 uh we don't want to contaminate the groundwater so 460 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:34,480 what I want to ask you to do is to consider in the ordinance putting in a 461 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:39,200 very strong geohysical study I talked to a geohysicist yesterday on my road this 462 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:44,320 is what we do this is they're out of Tallahassee and out Tampa, this is what 463 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:50,000 they do. They they do electrical testing to measure what the ground is like. 464 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Let's build our house on solid rock and not on shifting sand. 465 00:37:52,800 --> 00:38:00,800 Thanks, sir. All right. Our next speaker is uh Jen 466 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:05,640 Frell. Please come forward and state your name and address for the record, 467 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,640 please. 468 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:26,560 Uh, Jen Frell, 480 Murray Road. I am here to address the conduct of the 469 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,000 commissioners. Um, thank you for allowing me to speak and let me 470 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:36,240 apologize in advance to the people behind me. Public speaking is not my 471 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:39,920 thing. On August 11th, in this room, Dr. Retrieva Gear made a comment to the 472 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:45,839 commissioners that they in the process of being elected were married to the 473 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:50,800 people. Marriage as we all know is only truly successful when built upon a 474 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:55,760 foundation of mutual trust. Yet meeting after meeting while we sit in this room. 475 00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:00,720 Thank you. We are expected to follow and demanded 476 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:05,680 to follow rules of decorum while we watch all of you on your phones 477 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:10,400 answering calls, sending text messages, whatever it is that you're doing. As 478 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,200 plainly as I can possibly say it, it's disrespectful. It's giving rules for 479 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:19,040 thee, but not for me. Uh there are currently matters of public 480 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,960 interest that have large portions of the public involved in attending these 481 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:27,119 meetings regularly and some that are here for the first time. These matters 482 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:32,160 of public interest are discussed even more frequently on social media where 483 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:36,960 there are no rules of decorum. Everyone is free to weigh in as they see fit in 484 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:42,000 these conversations oftent time become extremely spirited. I am the admin of 485 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:46,560 one local Facebook group with over 31,000 members. The vast majority of 486 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:51,040 whom are Lowdens County residents, business owners, and taxpayers. Several 487 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:55,040 of you seated before me are members of that group. 488 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:59,280 I'm here today to place on the public record comments left by Mark Weisenbaker 489 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,480 in that group. >> We're not going to mention any of the 490 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:05,760 commissioner's names. Now, you can you can admonish 491 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:08,640 say what you want to say, but we're not going to call out anything. 492 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,880 » I'll take his name out. That's fine. >> Okay. 493 00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:18,079 » On the evening of July 28th, someone came into Miss Rachel's internet to tell 494 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:22,880 me, and I quote, "There will be another meeting like this one. Get off the 495 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:27,359 couch, show up, and see for yourself. Then maybe, just maybe, others will 496 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:32,880 notice you probably have a brain or part of one. It puts in question the validity 497 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:36,800 of our marriage. These comments have now been spread far 498 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,480 and wide throughout the community. I brought 50 printout copies that have 499 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:46,320 already been given out. You may each have one. We've also turned all of those 500 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,440 comments into vinyl stickers for anyone in the audience that may want 501 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,359 them. suggesting people should not be asking 502 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:59,040 questions about these meetings unless they are also willing to attend 503 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:03,440 ignores your disabled constituents who may not be able to physically attend. It 504 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,240 ignores your economically challenged constituents who may not have 505 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,359 transportation to and from these meetings. It ignores your constituents 506 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:16,240 who work second shift or long hours. It ignores our local farmers and farm 507 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:20,560 workers and a large number of Lowdens County residents who may otherwise want 508 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,520 to attend these meetings but can't. Which then brings forth the question, 509 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:28,000 what happened to the high-priced equipment that was purchased to live 510 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:34,240 stream these meetings. This is unacceptable conduct by someone 511 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:39,040 uh who we, your constituents, expect a higher level of professionalism and 512 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:45,520 integrity from. In closing, I would like to remind the entirety of you that we 513 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:49,280 elected you to sit up there. We can remove each and every one of you by 514 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,760 recall. >> We expect more and we deserve more. 515 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,200 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 516 00:41:56,240 --> 00:42:02,400 » All right. Our next speaker is Brida Mink. 517 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,520 Please come forward and state your name and address for the record, please. 518 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:25,640 My name is Britta Mink, 807 Blackwood Road, Valdasta. 519 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:33,520 I am disappointed. 520 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:41,280 I'm terribly disappointed. Um, I'm glad I followed Jen because 521 00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:47,760 what she said is um, a lot of what I feel and that is unheard 522 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:54,960 completely unheard. Uh, I think a lot of us in this room 523 00:42:50,079 --> 00:43:02,079 feel unheard. U, we do not want this center. We do not want this data center. 524 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:06,400 We want a complete moratorum. We 60 days. That's great. Thank you. I think 525 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:15,040 that's wonderful and we appreciate it. We do appreciate the 60 days. 526 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:21,119 But we want we do not want it at all. If if for some reason you guys cannot 527 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:29,800 understand this, um please hear it now. 528 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,800 We do not want this. 529 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:45,040 Um, there are a lot of reasons it's not going to be in my backyard, 530 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:50,240 but I've lived here since I was three. I love this area. I don't want to move 531 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:55,280 out. And all of the things that are going to 532 00:43:52,400 --> 00:44:01,520 happen, they may happen after I die. I'm old. I don't have children. 533 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:06,079 My nieces and nephews don't live here. My great nieces and nephews don't live 534 00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:12,160 here. They never will. So, you could say I don't have a dog in this fight. 535 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:18,640 But the people that I love are still here and they're going to be here. 536 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:22,880 And the fact that you guys are even considering this, 537 00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:26,880 that means that you don't love this place. 538 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:32,560 And that's upsetting to me. If you can't tell them I'm upset, 539 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:36,200 then then you have less of a heart than I thought you did. 540 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:47,520 This is going to ruin a lot of people's lives. This is going to take down 541 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:54,359 the value of their houses. This is going to ruin 542 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,359 the land. 543 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:04,960 This is going to destroy the a lot of the animals. 544 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:11,839 Like I said, I'm an old woman, so I bird watch. Do you know how many birds are 545 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:19,440 going to go away and never come back if this place is built? 546 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:24,480 We have beautiful birds here, and this is going to make those birds go 547 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:29,839 away. Please don't do this. 548 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:35,599 Please. This isn't right. This This is This is 549 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:40,680 not for us. It's not my backyard, but it's my home. 550 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:48,920 It's your home, and you should care more about it. You really should. 551 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:56,560 All right. Our next speaker is Charlotte Noel Lundy. 552 00:45:54,319 --> 00:46:00,839 Rick, please come forward and state your name and address for the record, please. 553 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:10,480 » Hi everyone. Uh, my name is Noel Lundy and I am a resident and student at 554 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:15,440 Valdasta State University. Um, that's 1500 North Patterson Street. Go Blazers. 555 00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:20,319 Um, I am here to talk about the proposition to build an AI data center 556 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,760 in the Foxboro subdivision. Aside from the fact that we as a 557 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:28,000 community are saying we do not want a data center here and that the voice and 558 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:33,040 opinions of the people should be enough, a data center would damage our community 559 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:37,040 in several ways. The sound levels of the methane gas turbines used to power AI 560 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:41,359 data centers have been compared to that of jet engines, making it impossible for 561 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:45,440 residents and children nearby to sleep at night, which increases rates of 562 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,040 insomnia. And according to uncalthcare.org, 563 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:53,359 lack of sleep increases risks of dementia, depression, and weight gain. 564 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,920 It's especially damaging to newborn babies and young children as it can have 565 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:02,319 lasting effects of damage to their brain development, putting them at increased 566 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,839 risk for developing issues related to mood regulation and intellectual 567 00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:09,920 disabilities. A data center would also cause community 568 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:14,400 electric bills and water bills to skyrocket, a precedent set by residents 569 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,800 in other parts of the country who have been so unfortunate to have a data 570 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:23,200 center built in their neighborhood. This would affect all kinds of people in our 571 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:27,520 town. Everyone like elderly on fixed income, both single and dual inome 572 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:32,319 households. And it would only add to the many factors that affect rent 573 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:37,359 affordability already. It also has huge impacts on our environment like 574 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:41,440 contaminating groundwater, taking away crucial amounts of clean water from 575 00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:45,920 residents, and the decimation of local bird populations. 576 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:50,880 Data centers are not only an attack on lowincome people. The increased use of 577 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:55,680 reliance on generative AI is an attack on our humanity and our right to 578 00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:00,400 sustainable living conditions. We cannot separate ourselves from this land. We 579 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:05,359 cannot live without clean air or consistent affordable access to clean 580 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,960 water. Our future is at stake and a future where the world is a desolate 581 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:13,440 wasteland of data centers is no future at all. Please choose the people of 582 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:17,200 Valdasta. Thank you. >> Thank you. 583 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:24,040 All right. Our next speaker is Mr. Jimmy Lefiles. Please come forward. State your 584 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,040 name and address for the record, please. 585 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:36,480 Jimmy Lefiles, 3561 Riverchase Drive. First of all, thank y'all for giving me 586 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:41,280 a chance to talk. I appreciate it. Um, as y'all know, my family are longtime 587 00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:46,160 Loun County residents and intend to stay that way. I'm an industrial chemist, as 588 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:51,119 I've reported already. My research on the chemical side of data centers 589 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:56,480 indicates that the proposed 480 megawatt data center will have over 7 million 590 00:48:53,839 --> 00:49:02,240 pounds of either ethylene glycol or propyline glycol on site and could have 591 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:07,680 tens of thousands of pounds of highly toxic PAS chemicals aka forever 592 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:12,559 chemicals because they never degrade into safer chemistry. 593 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,160 These are highly toxic water-soluble chemicals that if released in the 594 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,960 environment will migrate into the groundwater and into our drinking water 595 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:26,880 and we have no way to fix that problem. 50 pounds of PAS pollutes the entire 596 00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:32,079 Georgia Florida aquifer above the EPA safe drinking water standards of four 597 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:35,359 parts per trillion. But I've reported all this already. So 598 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,240 tonight I want to talk about something else. Every one of these meetings starts 599 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:43,920 with an invocation. We ask God to be present in this room and to bless us and 600 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,319 guide the people that here making these decisions. And I take some solless in 601 00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:52,400 that because I know the job you guys have is really hard trying to balance 602 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:56,960 economic growth to the county and at the same time maintain a high standard of 603 00:49:54,720 --> 00:50:01,119 living for the people there. On the one hand, the data center could provide a 604 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:05,599 lot of tax revenue revenue for the county that could be used for many good 605 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:09,280 purposes and some jobs. On the other hand, the data center could generate a 606 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:14,559 lot of serious problems. Nearby neighborhoods may be faced with nuisance 607 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:20,000 noise, lower property values, flooding from increased storm water runoff, and 608 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:24,240 possibly more frequent sink holes. If there are chemical spills, all Loun 609 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:28,960 County citizens will be faced with drinking water polluted with even higher 610 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:33,280 level of forever chemicals that we have now, which will be there for generations 611 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:38,319 to come. And these chemicals are known to cause several kinds of cancer and 612 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:43,119 autoimmune dysfunction. All of the problems I just mentioned are 613 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,119 specific to the proposed Coleman Road site. 614 00:50:46,319 --> 00:50:51,760 A data center built on a site that didn't have all the all the 615 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:58,480 characteristics of the Coleman Road site wouldn't present all these problems. 616 00:50:55,839 --> 00:51:02,960 The day the Coleman road site is close to nearby neighborhoods in the width of 617 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:08,400 Coochie River and combined with that it's on a highly unstable porous car 618 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:13,119 geology. I am sure DC blocks the company that 619 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:17,040 will build the data center, sell it and then leave town with their money will 620 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:23,280 claim to have answers to all these issues. Do I believe that DC blocks can 621 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:28,240 design and build a 480 megawatt data center on car limestone within 2500 feet 622 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:34,400 of the width of Cuchi River that will run safely for years? No. 623 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:39,680 I've got 40 years of experience with with heavy industrial chemical plants, 624 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:44,000 designing them, building them, managing them, and I can tell you it's just not 625 00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:50,160 going to happen. The margin for error is too small. Remember 50 pounds of PAS 626 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:56,000 pollutes the whole aquaer. Over time, equipment fails, pipes crack, 627 00:51:53,440 --> 00:52:01,440 inspections fail, people fail to follow procedures, extreme weather happens, 628 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:05,200 budgets get cut. Given the fragile car substrate, the buildings may fail 629 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,520 structurally as we've already seen with Camelot Crossing. But the difference is 630 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:14,960 that data center is going to have millions of pounds of chemicals in it 631 00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:18,160 when it goes. When is that going to happen? Is that 632 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:22,160 going to happen in year three or is it going to happen in year 10? Do you want 633 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:26,880 to have to constantly worry about that? Do you want that to be your legacy as a 634 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:31,760 commissioner? So, I go back to the invocation. God 635 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:35,200 calls on us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. We can't make the world 636 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,520 perfect for our neighbors, but we're called to help them whenever we can. 637 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:44,079 People in Foxboro and other nearby neighborhoods need a safe, decent place 638 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:48,400 to live, and some cannot afford to move. The citizens of Loun County depend on 639 00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:53,119 the Georgia Florida aqua for water that is safe for drinking and agriculture and 640 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:58,160 recreational uses. No amount of tax revenue is worth compromising the basic 641 00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:01,359 needs of the citizens you're serving. I understand that the path forward is to 642 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:05,200 write an ordinance that protects the citizens. To really protect the 643 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:09,839 citizens, the ordinance must eliminate the possibility of chemical spills, not 644 00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:15,680 just to establish what happens after a spill because removing these chemicals 645 00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:20,079 from our aquifer can't be done. With all due respect, I don't think it's possible 646 00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:25,040 to write such an ordinance. I'm asking you to please conscientiously 647 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:29,440 consider the implications of the current path forward. If you do that, I think 648 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:35,760 you'll follow your heart and agree that the Coleman Road site is just too risky 649 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:40,160 for the cit citizens of Loun County and maybe start focusing your energies 650 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:45,079 on a more appropriate site. Thank you for your service. 651 00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:45,079 » Thank you. Thank you. 652 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:56,160 All right, our next speaker, and I'm sorry I can't read the first name, but 653 00:53:50,960 --> 00:54:01,800 it looks like Dixon. Sarah Dixon, please come forward and state your name 654 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,800 and address for the record, please. 655 00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:13,440 » Hi, my name is Laura Hannah Dixon. I live on 3978 656 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:17,839 Apple Cross Road. Um >> Laura, if you'll stay about 6 to 8 in 657 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:21,440 from the microphone, I'll amplify it. It will sound much better. 658 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:26,359 » Okay. Can is that good? >> Yeah, that's fine. Okay, thank you. 659 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:36,720 Um, a lot of what I have written here has already been stated. Um, but I'm 660 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:42,800 going to reiterate it anyway. And if I need to move around for the microphone, 661 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:49,760 please let me know. Um, as taxpayers, 662 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:56,400 our voices need to be heard. Um, and so many of us have said so many 663 00:54:53,040 --> 00:55:02,000 times that we don't want a data center here in Valdasta or in any of the 664 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:07,599 surrounding areas. There are livestock and animals dying and being still born 665 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:13,040 because of data centers and we can see that in in other towns in other places 666 00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:19,520 where the data centers have been implemented. So we should learn from 667 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:25,680 example rather than uh try to make the same mistakes that are causing real 668 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:34,240 problems like the livestock dying um like the polluted water. And I know that 669 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:42,000 a few weeks ago um we saw a presentation of what might happen to the water uh if 670 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:47,599 an ordinance is created uh to take the water somewhere else. And 671 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:55,040 I would like to echo what Dr. Tva Gear uh said two weeks ago when she stated um 672 00:55:51,920 --> 00:56:00,720 even if the water is taken away, where is it going to be taken? uh is it going 673 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:05,359 to be dumped somewhere uh else? And you know, someone on this planet is going to 674 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:10,640 have to deal with the consequences of the forever chemicals that we can never 675 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:17,599 remove out of the water. Um and there are cancer clusters popping up where 676 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:25,040 these data centers are. And um it is not wise for us to see these mistakes to see 677 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:30,960 the damage from the data centers in area other areas of Georgia and all over the 678 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:35,599 United States and to not pause and say we don't want that here 679 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:40,119 because we don't want this damage to happen here. Um 680 00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:51,200 at the very least uh consider the moratorum to be more than two months. Uh 681 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:56,880 that is not enough time to really think about making the ordinance stronger. 682 00:56:54,799 --> 00:57:03,200 It's not enough time to get input from the community. Um 683 00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:08,640 which we really hope that you will allow input from the community. Um, I spoke 684 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:13,599 with a commissioner a couple of months ago and I asked for community 685 00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:18,559 representation uh to help develop the ordinance and I 686 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:25,119 was immediately told no, we are not going to allow uh a citizen to be part 687 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:30,799 of the drafting the ordinance because I the commissioner said uh of course we 688 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:37,119 wouldn't want a citizen on the committee because y'all are opposed to it. Um, I I 689 00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:42,079 think that that's ludicrous and uh it's really just of course we would want to 690 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:48,240 be on the committee. This is our town. We are the taxpayers and we elected the 691 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:53,359 commissioners. So um please uh consider working with us on an 692 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:58,640 ordinance and one example and we don't want the data center at all but for 693 00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:05,119 example something that might be included in a strong robust ordinance that would 694 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:10,640 really protect the citizens would be um to not have the data center run on 695 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:18,160 fossil fuels because what that would do is create a heat island and make the 696 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:24,640 temperature of our area even higher uh than it is. And we're about to we're 697 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:30,559 approaching hurricane season. So um we are having hurricanes and weather that 698 00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:36,160 is not normal for our area. And part of that is because of global warming. So we 699 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:40,559 really need strong protections uh environmentally 700 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:45,440 um for the water for example uh to protect us from sink holes as others 701 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:50,200 have already stated and because of rising temperatures um 702 00:58:51,599 --> 00:59:03,200 I don't want to believe that we are living in a different Loun County than 703 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:08,000 we were in 2010 and 2011 whenever we fought the biomass. Well, actually, I 704 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:11,920 was I didn't know that was going on. I was living in Alabama at the time, but I 705 00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:18,000 was born in Loun County and I've lived here all my life except for a couple of 706 00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:23,520 years. And um during that time, the community was able to stop the biomass 707 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:27,920 uh from happening. And I hope that we still live in All County where the 708 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:32,240 commissioners will hear what we have to say with a conscience. 709 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,240 All 710 00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:40,720 right, that's the end of our citizens wishing to be heard. Commissioners, any 711 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:44,920 questions, comments? I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. So moved.