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» All right. Welcome everyone to our

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August Parks and Recreation Commission

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meeting

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August 25th.

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So, I'm calling it to order.

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Did everyone get a chance to look at the

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agenda?

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>> Looks great to me.

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>> I'll make a motion to brief tonight's

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agenda. Second. All

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>> in favor?

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>> I.

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>> All right. Thank you. And our meeting

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minutes from July since Oh, wait. We had

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our travel, didn't we? We have our

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travel.

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>> Yeah, there were minutes.

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>> All right. Approval for the minutes from

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the July 28th meeting.

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» Yeah.

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» All in favor say I.

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Thank you.

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» All right. See, do we have anyone on

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Zoom today?

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>> No.

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>> Nope. And we have only one person in the

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public. You have a comment, sir?

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» Just stand up and introduce yourself and

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welcome.

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» Don't worry.

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>> Yeah.

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I got a problem with in Forest Ridge

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Park.

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I like to see it's one of two things

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happen. Either there's a gate that's

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locked every night since the bathrooms

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or maybe the parks department can work

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with the police department to get

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regular patrols after the dark. There's

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been several cars that come in

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after dark usually or just before

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And of course they leave litter. It's

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there every morning.

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But the big problem I seen lately the

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bathrooms block. Some of these cars

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spend the night there.

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in the last week or so I've had to clean

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up PCs in the playground. We're near the

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playground area behind the bathroom over

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on the picnic table.

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And it's pretty disgusting. It does get

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picked up. kids are going to get in it

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maybe

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a problem. So I think either either a

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gate or

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consistent control by the pixie dick

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them out. I assume the parks are closed

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at dusk.

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>> So there's no reason why the police

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can't move on.

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>> Thank you.

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All right, we have staff reports and

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updates. First one, Bridging Birminton

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info and request for volunteers.

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>> Well, we're going to wait.

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>> So, yeah. So, Josh Farley, uh, we'll

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speak on that and he was coming over on

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the ferry. So, when he gets here

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back there,

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>> we'll put him back on once we get to

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that point.

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>> Okay. Good.

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>> All right. The new business

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Forest Ridge Park first street parcel

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surplus proposal

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chat.

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» All right.

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So, first off, our agenda.

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Wanted to show some pictures if you

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haven't seen them.

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>> we wanted to share some some of the

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pictures. If you hadn't seen those

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pictures, they turned out really well.

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wouldn't have been so big, but I was

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like, "Oh, it looks great. It looks like

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a selfie and a bunch of people behind

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it." That was good.

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>> That was a nice day.

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>> Okay. And Brett, you can see the slides,

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uh the tour that we took, the very last

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spot, uh we were obviously up at Forest

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Ridge Park. And so uh what we wanted to

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bring after um getting some head nods

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from commission that yes you wanted to

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have the discussion at this meeting was

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to look at um surplusing

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a small portion of the park. So,

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separate out a parcel on First Street.

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the outline for Forest Ridge here, which

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also includes this piece. Um, again,

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just to kind of recap,

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um, the conversation,

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um, really started from a potential

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developer that's looking at the adjacent

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property for development and was looking

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for an easement for emergency access and

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which could also um, change the type of

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use that they're looking at for that

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site. And so in evaluating the property,

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the type of use that we have now, uh the

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adjacent property here, which is

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formerly Renaissance High School, which

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is moving up to View Ridge, uh so

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they'll be taking up about half of the

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View Ridge school site. Uh they seem to

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be the predominant user. At lunchtime or

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breaks, they would be outside. We have a

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couple tables there, a garbage can, but

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really not much else. it's not really

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tied to or connected to the main part of

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the park. And so what we would be

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looking at doing is surplusing this uh

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listing it for sale um and doing having

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bids come in and we would probably set a

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minimum bid for the project for the site

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um and then being able to work with

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council to have those funds go back into

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future development at Forest Ridge Park.

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property um because once it's gone, it's

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gone. Uh, but in evaluating this site,

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it's it's not a portion of the park that

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that's really well utilized um by the

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community and um isn't really tied into

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the rest of the park. Um some another

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benefit to the sale of this is it would

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put it I know it's a small parcel but it

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puts it back on the tax role as well. Um

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so it would not um be a city asset at

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that point. So uh I've also listed here

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the procedures um that are listed within

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our code. Uh the parks board um is being

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consulted. Uh so we count last month

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having the conversation there and having

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a conversation here as working with the

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parks board um providing you all the

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details concerning the proposed sale.

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Uh the parks board shall prepare an

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advisory report and submit it to city

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council and the mayor. And that's

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definitely something that we as staff

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would be happy to work with you on. Um,

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and what I would probably look for is uh

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as part of this agenda item, maybe a

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motion for uh Kathy to work with staff

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to develop um and prepare the advisory

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report to be presented to council and

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the mayor. So that would most likely

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happen at a study session uh before it

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would go to the public hearing. So with

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this uh with a surplusing uh park

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property, it would require a minimum of

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two uh public hearings. So that would be

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a two separate meetings. Um, and then

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council maybe after the first, and

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uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe

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after the first they could decide if at

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the second uh, if there's not a lot of

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response or any response that may be at

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the same meeting as a second hearing,

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they could uh, vote on it or it may have

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to go to a third uh, meeting. So, there

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would be a series of opportunities for

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the public to to speak out on this uh,

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potential sale of the property.

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sale, if that's what we're looking at

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doing, um, the, uh, council would

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evaluate the report that's provided to

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them by, by the commission,

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um, and then develop findings and

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conclusions to support declaring this as

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surplus and, um, selling the property.

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uh with that um a unanimous vote would

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need to uh take place of the council and

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I believe that's part of the parks

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protection act that went into place

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through a citizen vote um gosh back I

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think in the 70s sometime

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uh would require any park parcel to be a

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full unanimous vote by the council.

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in absence of that, if there wasn't a

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unanimous unanimous vote, if we wanted

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to move forward, it could go to the

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public for a vote. Um,

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which would mean obviously the cost of

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putting it on a ballot and that process.

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Um, so that would be something if we

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didn't get a full council um, unanimous

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vote, we may want to bring it back and

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discuss and see what we want to do

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moving forward if that's a process we

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want to seek out or not. Um, so anything

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short of that, Brett, do you have

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anything you wanted to add or correct?

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uh the the commission will have to have

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to, you know, take a final approval vote

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on any on any advisory report before

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maybe at this meeting um we get the

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commission if the commission so chooses

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to um gives us the go ahead to move

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forward and then we would provide that

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report at the next meeting for your

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review.

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» Has there been any talk about like how

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much money we think this parcel is

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worth?

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don't know a number. Um, and that's

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something that during the process I

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would want to find out is what do we

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think the parcels worth? It's and which

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than the value to the developer.

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and and final parcel values are

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something that city council discuss

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discusses in executive sessions so that

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it's not necessarily public before any

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um decision is made so that it you know

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isn't in the public record for anybody

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to take advantage of. So

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>> Right. And and on that Brett is it

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typically a sealed bid

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when it comes to property sales?

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um they don't necessarily have to go to

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bid. You can directly negotiate things,

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but again the council the council sets

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their um you know prices that they're

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willing to accept in an executive

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session. They discuss that so that it's

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not you know you don't want to be

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negotiating against yourself I guess in

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>> Exactly. Don't want to Yeah. You don't

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then try to negotiate something else.

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>> Totally get that. Okay. Any other

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questions?

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» I'm I am um very encouraged to hear your

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reference to perhaps a private developer

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for that whole piece of property. I'm

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delighted with that. I'll bet you the

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school district is too many.

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>> Yes. So um and while that might change

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the nature of the well I mean being for

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emergency vehicles and everything I

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think the safety things that it it

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eventually provides will be very good.

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Well, living next to the park, I can I

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can also vouch for the inactivity from

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the public really coming in and using

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it. No one thinks to drive down here and

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they can park because there is parking.

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>> It's mostly utilized by the high school

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there.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Which is moving.

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So,

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>> and who knows what this district's going

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to that property.

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>> You think the city has trouble letting

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go of property? You ought to talk to the

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school district about it.

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>> They will never go back.

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» Yeah, I have no concerns with this

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either. I'm ready to make a motion if my

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committee is unless anyone has any other

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questions,

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concerns about this. Yeah, I'll I'll uh

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make a motion for uh the parks board uh

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namely the vice chair currently to um

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work with the parks and recreation uh

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office to uh prepare an advisory report

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uh for city council and the mayor on the

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uh surplus of this first street parcel

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that we're talking about tonight.

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>> Second.

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>> All in favor?

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to move it forward unanimously. Awesome.

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When you need a unanimous vote,

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>> good practice, right?

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>> Yeah.

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>> Okay.

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>> Nothing else we need from Brett. Any

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more questions for him?

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>> Great. Hopefully this progresses as we

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want it. Just

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>> Thank you, Brett.

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>> He'll stick around though just for fun.

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>> Yeah, I'll stick I'll stick around for

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the whole thing. But thank you.

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All right, we're ready to move on to B,

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the common street for homelessness

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response property management. I love

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that you send that. It's it's nice to

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see that

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>> and this is the reason why Brett's

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sticking around.

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» Good segue.

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>> You know, uh I'm going to start off with

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this slide. This is just kind of our

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monthly update and then I'm going to go

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ahead. The next slide is going to give

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us kind of where we're at year to date.

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If you guys recall, uh last meeting uh I

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spoke about uh in a in a plan weekly

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average that we're we're about 11 11 12

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or right in between there. That's a pretty good figure. Uh you're

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looking at 70 site visits in a month. I

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mean that's that's making a lot of

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contact.

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>> That's a lot of contact.

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>> Um 41 of them are meaningful

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connections, which is great. And then uh

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having 24 people that were connected to

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services within month all good things

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and uh seven of them have already uh

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entered shelter or some other form of

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housing. So uh good stuff there.

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>> Can I just ask what? Sorry. Uh is there a database being maintained

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of their content and who the people are?

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Sorry that I

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>> that is through more common streets and

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not within the city or parks.

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>> I'm sorry.

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>> How are you defining in full

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connections? What does that mean?

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>> People who are looking to engage and and

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willing to take resources and so

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>> um even though we there's 70 site

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visits, there's people that are out

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there saying, "Hey, we don't we don't

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want any assistance or anything else."

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making that meaningful connection means

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hey we're actively engaged in

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conversation

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um and we're looking to connect them

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into services um and so you can see the

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progression uh within this uh

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within the slide and so as we move on to

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uh

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since streets and and the city has uh

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been in partnership together

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some amazing numbers at over 3,000

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people. Uh here's our weekly uh

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in a in a plan weekly average. Like I

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stated, we're we're right there at 11

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p.m. Um so a lot of good stuff uh

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happening. Uh

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they are incredible benefit to uh

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>> two parts. I will speak on that.

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>> Brian, I had a question. the the uh the

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3265 number of your site business is

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that individual people or could that's a

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potential where they contacted the same

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person multiple times.

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>> So generally those are just individual

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reports and sites and uh contacts.

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>> Although if there's a group of them

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together that would be one site visit I

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>> correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so

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potentially there's a lot more than just

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that number of

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>> Yeah. site visit may contain two, three,

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four different camps.

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>> Sure.

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>> Um, with that I the next slide is some

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of the things that some topics and

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locations that we spoke about uh within

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this last month's meeting. As you could

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see,

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they're all bars. Um, and so with that,

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I wanted to follow up with a couple of

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things. Um, for drone trails, it was

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evaluated on 84. It was posted on 86. We

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had clean up on 811.

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We also just had another cleanup last

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Friday uh starting at 1:00. Uh that was

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also post or evaluated, posted, and

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cleaned up. So, this is ongoing and

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you'll see that in next month's meeting

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uh the the last Friday's uh cleanup. But

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I just want to kind of throw it out

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there. This is this is ongoing. This

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isn't a one and done. This is this is

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constant within the buck. So that's kind of what I wanted to

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highlight here. Does city council get

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briefed on this and the mayor? Do they

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see this commission at all?

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I'm not sure exactly the connection

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does a either

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>> I know they're

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>> twice a year or quarterly they go to council and provide

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presentation

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>> and I've seen I've seen them present at

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individual council

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>> district meetings too. So

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>> so they're they're out there.

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>> Absolutely.

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>> Yeah. and we've occasionally tied them

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to our one of our committees that we're

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involved with with the city council. So,

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I'm sure Common Street will be involved

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with our new committee that we're on,

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the public safety and parks committee.

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We were on the finance, investment,

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parks and parking committee.

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>> We got moved

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>> uh last two months ago. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. So because common streets is so

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tied to public safety, um it'll be a

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topic of discussion and there's three

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council members on each committee.

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>> Yeah.

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>> So we can't have a quorum, but we have

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three three of the council members are

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hearing information more than just the

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general and then they typically will

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report that

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>> in addition to the presentations to the

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general council.

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» Any other questions on those?

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>> No more questions. I'm finding that they

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are a benefit to our parks. We've spoken

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with them in Forest Bridge Park and

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they've been such a benefit. Really

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outstanding people that are coming in

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and meeting with the unhoused or you

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know whatever and they're they're so

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respectful to them and they have all

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these options. So, it is a blessing to

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have them come in and assist with you.

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>> Yes. and with and with with so many

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resources available because we've got a concentration of resources.

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Yes. So, let's get the people to that

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and

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>> because some don't know.

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>> Yes. Exactly.

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>> We just are

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>> trying to survive

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>> and particip in the resource.

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>> Exactly.

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>> Having some experts come in and be that

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first line.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Is great for us.

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>> Right. Right.

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>> Do you know if there's any like followup

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after they've gotten in touch with the

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services

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working?

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» I think they

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that's

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>> all right. If no more comments,

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» Alex, you're up next. The parks usage

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and community suggestion outreach. I'm

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excited to hear what you found.

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>> Yeah. Some of it's not news.

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>> Yes.

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>> Um, so I did a survey with some blind

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clients. So basically over two

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consecutive Sundays, just about an hour

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is like from when they open at 11 to

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about noon because it's just really busy

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in the lobby there um during that time

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and then it kind of trips off. So I got

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about like 39 people like did 39 people

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>> and I asked them two questions. Um, I

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had a little survey and passed out 10 to

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hour. Sometimes I would like interview

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them if it worked out better. Um, but

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the two questions were how do you use

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the parks and what do you want to see

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from the parks or what do you want to be

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improved? Next slide.

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So parks usage. The most common things

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are let's say at the top um basically

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exercise, walking, hiking, enjoying

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nature, um, walking a dog or other

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animals. I did see a cat at Blueberry

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the other day. So it's not just dogs.

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>> They're there on a leash.

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>> Yeah.

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It's a very chilled cat. Um, and then

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taking kids to play and um, I don't

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remember what enjoyed spending time in

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the park. I'm not sure that one got cut

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off, but some of the less common ones

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that people wrote were, you know,

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parties, events, um, being by the water,

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hobbies, going for picnics, riding their

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bike. Someone said camping, but I think

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they misunderstood when I was talking

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about city parks. I think we're talking

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about state parks.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Um, and then just exploration sports.

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and using the bathroom.

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And these are some of the broader themes

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um that I came up with for suggestions

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for improvement. The main one was the

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bathrooms, which I'll go into in the

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next few slides, and then parks in

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general, some inclusion kind of related

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things, various parks, amenities,

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activities, dogs and dog parks, park

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rules, uh the website, and in opposition

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to inclusion, exclusion.

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So, next slide.

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So, bathrooms,

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uh, mainly the first one, improved

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maintenance and cleanliness of

552
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,559
bathrooms. I agree with that one. I'm

553
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,720
seeing some nastiness.

554
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,960
Um, bathrooms open year round. I thought

555
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,280
that they were, but maybe some of them

556
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960
are not or they misunderstood.

557
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,200
>> Yeah, some dep if if we get below

558
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,159
freezing, we may shut some of them down.

559
00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:00,799
>> U, but otherwise they're most all of

560
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,039
them are open year round. Right, Brian?

561
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:04,880
>> Right. It's just the hour.

562
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,600
>> Yeah. Yeah.

563
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,120
>> Yeah. And I don't know if this was like

564
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:10,159
a a countywide poll or more of a city

565
00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:10,480
poll.

566
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,000
>> I was trying to focus it on the city,

567
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,520
but some people may have misunderstood

568
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,600
>> because within the county they close

569
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,360
their restaurants in the city. We try

570
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:22,480
not to. So unless it's weather

571
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,559
the county closes their restrooms like

572
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:26,000
for this

573
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480
>> I know a lot of places that do.

574
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,120
>> Yeah. Okay.

575
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,200
>> They winterize their restrooms.

576
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,240
>> Okay. I understand.

577
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,000
Well, then it's uh providing bathrooms

578
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,600
of parks, which I think there might be a

579
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,120
few that don't have some. And then

580
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,360
providing more stalls. I agree with that

581
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,320
one, especially women's bathrooms.

582
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,320
And then uh parks in general, having

583
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,640
more parks and open spaces. Uh improved

584
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,880
maintenance and cleanliness of parks.

585
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,600
The dog food is on another one. Um more

586
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,760
nature, wilderness trails, improved

587
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,559
security at parks, longer hours. I think

588
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:01,120
that's mainly outside of summertime. Um,

589
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,039
and then open a new disc golf course,

590
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:05,200
which that's not news. You heard that

591
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,679
from the disc golf people. Um, and then

592
00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:10,240
as for inclusion, more access for those

593
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,400
with disabilities, um, like with

594
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,320
wheelchairs and that kind of thing.

595
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,000
Allowing homeless into the park,

596
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
inclusive of new people. I'm not sure

597
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,240
exactly what they meant by that one, but

598
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,919
I include it anyway. And then improved

599
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:24,640
sidewalks. There are a few parts that

600
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,440
need that a lot. All right, next slide.

601
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840
And then for amenities, so some of the

602
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,520
sub themes that I had were shelter and

603
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,000
resting spots, boards, water fountains,

604
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480
sanitation, and then just some other. So

605
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,400
as for shelter and resting spots, having

606
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,559
more tables, benches, and chairs, as

607
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,720
well as covered in seating, shaded

608
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,320
seating areas, which I have to agree

609
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,919
with that, there's not enough places to

610
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:49,520
sit and if there are, it's bright out in

611
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,360
the sun.

612
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,279
And then as for sports, a lot of them

613
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:54,880
were about basketball. So

614
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,880
>> yeah. No, I like that. That's great.

615
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,960
>> People want to play basketball. So,

616
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960
providing basketballs, full court

617
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,480
basketball courts, and a three-point

618
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,360
line. Um, outdoor fitness stations.

619
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,840
There's support for the little fitness

620
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,440
station.

621
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,960
>> One person said, "Do not remove the

622
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840
volleyball pip." They wanted that one.

623
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,279
>> Then asked for water fountains,

624
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:16,960
providing water fountains and then water

625
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200
bottle refill stations. I agree with

626
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,279
that, too. I always carry my water

627
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:22,960
bottle.

628
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,279
Then sanitation.

629
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:28,000
Have a sanitation station. I'm not sure.

630
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,760
I tried looking that up and I don't know

631
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,720
what that means.

632
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,200
>> Yeah,

633
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,400
>> maybe somebody does. But

634
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,799
>> yeah, so it's basically just um so they

635
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,960
have them at like special events and

636
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,799
they're typically modular

637
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,080
>> and it's essentially um hand washing

638
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,960
station.

639
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,039
>> Yeah,

640
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,880
>> I think um that kind of goes along with

641
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,520
the bathroom part, too.

642
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,760
>> And then less trash. And then providing

643
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,760
trash bins, which I think if you provide

644
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,400
more trash bins, you'll get less trash.

645
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,400
And then a smoking area, which I

646
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520
disagree with. I don't think it's okay.

647
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Nobody should.

648
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,919
>> Yeah, there's not a city.

649
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:06,720
>> Yeah.

650
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,799
>> And, uh, the last few ones for the

651
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:10,799
amenities part is providing barbecue

652
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,600
grills, more toddler friendly areas or

653
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,520
activities, um, and then a place to walk

654
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,039
by.

655
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:17,600
Cool.

656
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,600
>> So, just a question like on suggestions

657
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840
for improvements, those are basically

658
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,600
the number and you didn't really give

659
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,080
them a checklist. It was just verbal.

660
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,600
>> Yeah, they just wrote it down.

661
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,000
>> Okay. So, two people said barbecue

662
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080
guards. Okay. Yeah. As opposed to a

663
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,679
checklist. Okay.

664
00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:35,440
>> I just made it a little bit easier for

665
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:35,760
you.

666
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,400
>> Yep. That's for sure.

667
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,600
>> Um then some other ones for activities

668
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,919
just broadly more activities. No other

669
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,480
explanation than that. More activities

670
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,640
for children outside of school, more

671
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,960
outdoor activities and sports. Uh

672
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,720
community activities and then activities

673
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,240
for adults. So some of those are very

674
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,760
broad. Do what you want. And then we go

675
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,600
into the dogs and the dog park. So

676
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,760
cleaning up the dog poop, providing

677
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,760
doggy bags. So I think you provide the

678
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,200
doggy bags. That will encourage people

679
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,679
to clean up the poop more. Uh keeping

680
00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:10,720
dogs on leashes for sure. Then we go to

681
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,679
the dog carts. Somebody wanted more um

682
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,159
enrichment at the dog carts like logs to

683
00:28:16,159 --> 00:28:19,440
climb on, things like that.

684
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,279
um generally having more dog parks,

685
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:23,440
providing a fence, dog park. Some of

686
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,080
these could be like an indication that

687
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,480
we just need more advertising on park um

688
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,200
amenities.

689
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840
So, next slide and then this is the last

690
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480
one. So, somebody wanted to see like the

691
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,919
dos and the don'ts, like what you can

692
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:39,600
do, what you shouldn't do with the

693
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640
parks. Uh someone else wanted the parks

694
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,960
website to be kept updated. And then the

695
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,799
last one, um, removing homeless or

696
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:49,760
squatters from parking lots. So, I don't

697
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,279
know which specific one they were

698
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:52,960
thinking of, but that was a suggestion

699
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,120
somebody had. So, that's, uh, see my

700
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520
little slideshow.

701
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,559
>> Thanks for doing that.

702
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,070
>> Yeah.

703
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Can you go back

704
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,120
with

705
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080
that? I forget

706
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,840
what you're looking for. It was around.

707
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,320
So

708
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,520
>> there was a

709
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,919
movie.

710
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,159
>> No, I I'll get I'll get around to it

711
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:35,830
again. Sorry. Okay.

712
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,679
See what it was, Joe, that you wanted to

713
00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:38,159
comment.

714
00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:40,480
>> Oh, I know what it was. So, where was

715
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,399
the disc golf? Where was the disc golf?

716
00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:46,000
Just have a moment of clarity.

717
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,679
>> More disc golf courses.

718
00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:51,600
>> We could have a disc golf.

719
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,919
>> That would be a nice It would be a nice

720
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:55,679
joint use.

721
00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,120
>> You don't think one would interfere with

722
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000
the other? Half of the disc golfers out

723
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,919
there have their dogs out there anyway.

724
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:03,679
You know why? Why not?

725
00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:05,440
>> You just imagine the dogs grabbing

726
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,200
somebody else's disc and running off of

727
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,520
it.

728
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,440
>> Well, mine would. Mine wouldn't. And

729
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,080
mine would be the worst worst behavior.

730
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,320
So,

731
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,320
>> well, aren't there dogs that go for

732
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,520
discs all the time? It depends on Yeah.

733
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,000
it depends on what the owner does

734
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,039
with this golf

735
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:28,480
comments or suggestions or replies.

736
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,279
Thanks, Alex.

737
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:30,320
>> Thank you, Alex.

738
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,240
>> Appreciate you going and doing that.

739
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,799
>> Yeah, because I think it does kind of it

740
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,919
does hit on on that that concern and

741
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:40,399
council saw another survey recently

742
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:42,640
where I think some of the concern is the

743
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,880
access to our general surveys and not

744
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,120
everybody can access them. So doing

745
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,880
things like that are extremely helpful

746
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,000
to get

747
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,200
>> some you never know what you're gonna

748
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,399
get from.

749
00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:54,080
>> Um but yeah, I think a lot of it was

750
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,320
actually in line with some of the other

751
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200
information that we found out. So

752
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080
>> these were people that were not able to

753
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,440
participate in any of the surveys or

754
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,080
just

755
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,840
>> just a different venue.

756
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,919
>> Yeah. Yeah.

757
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:12,960
>> Yeah. No idea if there's a circle.

758
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,159
>> So I think we came.

759
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:16,559
>> Yeah.

760
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:17,120
>> Are they?

761
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,830
>> Yeah. I actually volunteered with the

762
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,360
» That's nice to hear.

763
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,240
>> It looks really good.

764
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,200
>> Oh, good.

765
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440
>> All right.

766
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,600
>> You ready to move on to the Kitsapat

767
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Peninsula staff dog park tour?

768
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,360
>> Ryan and Tim. So, uh, Josh should be

769
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
joining us any moment and so I'll kind

770
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,399
of stop when he gets here and then we

771
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:46,880
can we can proceed along.

772
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,799
>> So, uh, in preparation for our dog park

773
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:52,799
grant that we received and development

774
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,279
of the dog park at Stephson Canyon, we

775
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,399
decided that we would go on a tour. So,

776
00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:01,279
we picked two a day, a morning, two

777
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,799
separate weeks um in the past month um

778
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,279
and hit six different dog parks in

779
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,960
Kitapat Peninsula. Um so,

780
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,720
very fun. Uh probably one of the most

781
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,880
common comments we got and looks was,

782
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,399
"Why don't you guys have a dog with

783
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:16,960
you?"

784
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,269
>> Yeah.

785
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,039
» Four people walk in. One's got a

786
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:24,960
clipboard.

787
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,320
>> Rest of us just look like thugs. And

788
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,760
We have no dog.

789
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,159
>> Yeah.

790
00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:31,039
>> So,

791
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,320
>> we got there.

792
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,200
>> We became a target quickly.

793
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,600
>> Uh but no, it was it was good. So, all

794
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,200
I'm going to run through all six of

795
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,399
them. Um we kind of Colette kind of laid

796
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:43,840
out and Colette was sorry she's not

797
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640
here. She's up in Alaska um on vacation

798
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360
back home. So, um she'll be back with us

799
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,120
later this week. Yeah. So, she kind of

800
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600
provided me uh just some talking points

801
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,399
as well um that are very similar for

802
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:58,240
each of the dog parks. I'll just kind of

803
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640
walk through them uh as we have each

804
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,640
slide. So, Rotary Bark Park in Gig

805
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Harbor. Has anybody been to that?

806
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,360
>> No.

807
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,960
>> It was probably one of our favorite

808
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,880
ones. Um the off leash area is 15 acres

809
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,559
in size and it's a total of 97 acres.

810
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:19,600
Um, and it's part of the U Penet park

811
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,640
district.

812
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,159
>> That's right.

813
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,080
>> Penet

814
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,000
district out there.

815
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640
>> Yeah.

816
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,559
>> Of course.

817
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:31,519
>> Okay. Well,

818
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,120
>> so one thing about this park is the

819
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,039
access to the dog park from the parking

820
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,200
lot. It's about a quarter of a mile from

821
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,720
the trail head, so it was quite a

822
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960
distance for us to to get out there.

823
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,519
Yeah.

824
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,720
>> Um, so you you park next to a fire

825
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880
station and then you walk your way out

826
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,519
to where where the dog park is actually

827
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:55,039
at. Uh, it's 5 foot galvanized wire mesh

828
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,240
fencing, uh, double gated bolin entry.

829
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Everything we saw if everybody familiar

830
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,279
with what a double gated bullpin entry

831
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,840
is. So essentially, you'd walk in the

832
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,560
first gate, unleash, lock the gate or

833
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,119
shut the gate, un unhook your dog, and

834
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,879
then let him into the main part, and

835
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,119
then shut that secondary gate. Just kind

836
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:19,359
of a transition area. Um,

837
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:22,159
>> yeah. So, in this park, there's over a

838
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,919
mile of fenced off leash trails, um, and

839
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:28,720
an open meadow area. So on the bottom

840
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:30,399
right corner, you can kind of see that

841
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:33,040
open meadow space, but most of the off

842
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,599
leash area was actually trail systems.

843
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,440
And that that's something we did find

844
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,520
that we hadn't really thought about

845
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,320
>> for for Stephenson Canyon is looking at

846
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,879
some of those upper trails that we have

847
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:46,240
and seeing what we could do to

848
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,480
incorporate that into the dog park just

849
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,919
to kind of create a little bit of

850
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:52,320
different Yeah. Just to create a little

851
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,240
bit of different scenery. And they have

852
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,159
the opportunity for that stuff.

853
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,560
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sure could. There

854
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,000
are natural trails all the way through

855
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,320
there. Sure. So, you know,

856
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,359
>> uh, so water and restrooms. So, they

857
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,839
have portable restrooms at the very at

858
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,240
the parking lot. So, a quarter mile from

859
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,560
where you you end up going into the dog

860
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,839
park at. Um, and there's a water spot at

861
00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:19,680
that same area at the trail head. Um and

862
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,200
but what they do require is for

863
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,520
individuals to carry the water um jugs

864
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,800
to the dog park.

865
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,440
>> Yeah.

866
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,079
>> And so you kind of see on the bottom uh

867
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:37,440
left hand or upper right hand corner is where the filling station is and then

868
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,040
people transport them and then obviously

869
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,960
when they leave they'll put them back

870
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,040
over here, fill them up and then they're

871
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,599
ready for somebody else. So that

872
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,680
>> Yeah. So that's Yeah. And that's nice.

873
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,280
That's something that, you know, I

874
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,640
hadn't seen and and we it is common in

875
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,640
some of the other areas that we did go

876
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,839
and look at.

877
00:35:55,839 --> 00:35:57,599
>> So, they do have a shade structure as

878
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,000
you can see there uh kiosk with

879
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,680
information

880
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,640
um andformational signage rules. Uh

881
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,560
there's no separate small dog area at

882
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,400
this park and I think maybe because it

883
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,320
has trailed areas, it's kind of a

884
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,040
natural separation as well. Uh there's

885
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,359
no agility area.

886
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:18,480
um observations that we we came up with.

887
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Um it was a wellused park site. We were

888
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920
here probably about 10 o'clock on a when

889
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,320
Tuesday Wednesday morning. Uh so middle

890
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,400
of the week. Uh still a good amount of

891
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,599
people there. Uh users seem to value the

892
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,200
combination of the wooded trails and

893
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,760
open areas. Uh, so there were definitely

894
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,760
different gathering spots or people that

895
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,079
we noticed would walk the trail system

896
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,880
and then end up in the in the play

897
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,839
essentially play area for the dogs. So

898
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:47,680
>> So

899
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,390
how did you how did you like the fence?

900
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,160
» I liked it a lot. It's one of the better

901
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,880
princess that we came across. uh really

902
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,560
>> comparatively there'll be another slide

903
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,920
in there that they have a different

904
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,599
option that

905
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:04,720
>> that we experienced.

906
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,720
>> Yeah. What we did find was that the

907
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,520
bullpin entry areas tend to be a

908
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,560
different type of fence.

909
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,359
>> Oh, of course.

910
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:14,000
>> But then obviously this type of fencing

911
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,720
that we see here is quite a bit of cost

912
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,599
savings. Well, and what it also does is

913
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,480
it it provides a barrier for dogs as

914
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,800
they're moving along. So, they just

915
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,760
don't go that way.

916
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,440
>> So, the whole property

917
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,320
>> with that

918
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,280
>> the whole uh the whole 15 acres of the

919
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,960
dog park is

920
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,400
>> Yeah. It's big area.

921
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,480
>> And what we also found too is that

922
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,119
within that uh letting the natural

923
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,359
vegetation on the outside of that grow

924
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:42,079
up.

925
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:42,400
>> Yes.

926
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,240
>> They they provided that visual barrier

927
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,280
for the dogs too. So it's almost I know

928
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,069
it's seamless that they trail.

929
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,160
» Yeah. So that's Rotary Bark Park.

930
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,320
>> How long has it been there?

931
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,240
>> Do you know?

932
00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:59,839
>> No, I I don't know.

933
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:00,720
>> I don't know either.

934
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,480
>> Yeah.

935
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,240
Maybe if we can zoom in on the

936
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,880
sign. Yeah. We could probably start.

937
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,480
>> Yeah. I'm not sure how long it's been

938
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,359
there.

939
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:15,040
>> Um Yeah. So Josh, are you ready?

940
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,119
I've never been this ready in my life.

941
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,839
>> Have you ever followed a dog park

942
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:25,190
conversation?

943
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,720
» I'll be ready for you.

944
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:32,390
>> We keep it up for you.

945
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,280
» Pull up.

946
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,800
>> Yeah. Wherever.

947
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,960
>> Let me go back to your side.

948
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,440
>> Nice to see some familiar faces.

949
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,440
>> Welcome to the parks and wreck

950
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,800
commission. Oh, cool.

951
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,680
>> Friends meeting.

952
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,359
>> I'm glad to be here.

953
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,680
>> Yeah. Thank you for what you do first

954
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,000
and foremost. As many of you know, I've

955
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,800
lived in Breton a long time uh for 20

956
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,560
years now and um you know uh the parks

957
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,040
commission were as a concept reporter

958
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,720
always some of my favorite meetings to

959
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,359
cover. I just think I love parks and I

960
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:07,280
love the work that you do and and why

961
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,520
you do it. Um so it's really important

962
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,920
to me just as a resident of Bremer.

963
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,040
>> Thank you. Um, so yeah, you can see

964
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,800
here, uh, I don't know if any of you

965
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,640
have attended our previous events.

966
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Bridging Breton was something that I

967
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,000
started, uh, in 2018.

968
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,960
Was kind of a cool coinciding with the city's 100th anniversary centennial

969
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,800
of the Manette annexation. Literally was

970
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560
cool thing to dig into. I went through

971
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,480
the entire archive of the Breton news

972
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,160
which was the paper of that time paper

973
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,760
record and um just fascinating why the

974
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,839
Manette needed water and and there was a

975
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:46,400
ferry but um called the pioneer that ran

976
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,320
between Manette and Breton East and

977
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,400
Breton you know Heron

978
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,800
>> Manette Peninsula and downtown and the

979
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,119
cars drove off at sometimes and that was

980
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,599
not a good thing for obvious reasons.

981
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,320
Yeah. So, um they incorporated and 12

982
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,760
years later a bridge was built, the

983
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,400
first bridge and then in 1958 a second

984
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,400
bridge went uh at the Port Washington

985
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Narrows uh otherwise we know as the

986
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Warren Avenue Bridge

987
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,280
>> were they both state bridges at that

988
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,040
time when they first went in.

989
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,720
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah,

990
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,480
>> the Manette Bridge may not have been

991
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,320
Manette Bridge was kind of a the history

992
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,920
around it was kind of cool because it's

993
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,720
like uh it uh there was a really active

994
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,320
club in that they may have heard of

995
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,640
called uh in in Manette um the East

996
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,720
Birmingham and movement club and they

997
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,480
actually organized a lot of it and they

998
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,880
sold bonds for the bridge until the

999
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,640
state paid it off. So people actually

1000
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,880
paid for bonds. It was a quarter to get

1001
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,119
across the original bridge. A quarter,

1002
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:43,280
which was a lot of money at the time in

1003
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,760
1930. You know, a quarter was a lot of

1004
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,680
money, but it's because the ferry

1005
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,760
compared to the ferry. It was this was

1006
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,599
actually ideal. People could get back

1007
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,320
and forth and and the state paid it off.

1008
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,119
But then when it the state built the

1009
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:00,079
bridge in 58, they toled the bridge

1010
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:01,280
again. Some of you might notice that

1011
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,760
they actually put tolls back on Limonet

1012
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Bridge for a few years while to make

1013
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,400
sure people couldn't cheat the toll.

1014
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,440
>> Yeah, that's kind of cool. But

1015
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,960
>> yeah, The the cool thing about um

1016
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Bridging Grimmerson and why I started

1017
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
this was because those bridges of course

1018
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,400
were ser, you know, they were built for

1019
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,760
cars, but they serendipitously created a

1020
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,359
bridge loop that has parks. Our our

1021
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:27,520
flagship park of Breton, the Evergreen

1022
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,760
Rotary Park. others on this side,

1023
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,839
Sheridan, where we're sitting right here, East Park, uh the Whitey

1024
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,480
Dong viewscape in Manette. And of

1025
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,839
course, when the state built the new

1026
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:39,920
bridge, um a former council member, Adam

1027
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,400
Brockus, um helped to advocate for

1028
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,400
having a proper divider between the

1029
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,839
traffic and it created really a

1030
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:48,160
prominade. And in my mind, that was like

1031
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,680
an opening of well, why don't we have

1032
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,520
this on the other bridge, too? And why

1033
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,280
don't we have 10 foot sidewalks all the

1034
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,440
way between them because so many people

1035
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
use this this great this great pathway.

1036
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960
And um fast forward to uh I think it was

1037
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,880
senator then senator Emily Randall at

1038
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,119
the state level got an appropriation in

1039
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,599
the budget and next year I think

1040
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,160
construction hopefully will begin on

1041
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,880
expanding the Warren Avenue bridge to a

1042
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,520
much wider pedestrian path. So, there

1043
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,280
will still be work to do, but this is

1044
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,119
the vision is to just create an active

1045
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,560
recreation site, if you will, um of a of

1046
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,119
a three-mile walking loop that can be

1047
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,839
accessed by as many people and all walks

1048
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:32,319
of life at all accessibility levels

1049
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:35,359
possible, as well lit. Um I just I

1050
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:37,920
believe that um cities have have this

1051
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,160
and bridging Breton is kind of my love

1052
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,880
letter to this vision and that I would

1053
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,920
love to I hope that we can achieve um

1054
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,160
maybe in the not too distant future. Um

1055
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,800
and so we have three big events and we

1056
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,640
would love to have anyone from the parks

1057
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,560
commission who would like to volunteer.

1058
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,240
Um we have I will send you a website. Um

1059
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,240
there are t-shirts involved just if that

1060
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,560
grease you know we're hoping to have

1061
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,079
t-shirts for this. So, all the

1062
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:07,119
volunteers will will get a t-shirt. Um,

1063
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:10,319
and the the big event um throughout the

1064
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:11,520
day, you can see there's three different

1065
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,359
events. There's a Roxy a theater event

1066
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:14,800
that I'd love to have have you go to,

1067
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
but I'll focus just on in interest of

1068
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,800
time on the on the two events that

1069
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,280
really encompass the the bridge loop.

1070
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,359
The first is the kids passport

1071
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:25,280
adventure. So, each kid will be equipped

1072
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,920
with a map. Uh and it will go to around

1073
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,960
10 different sites just between

1074
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Evergreen Rotary Park and Whitey Don

1075
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Viewcape

1076
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,760
across the MAT bridge and along the way

1077
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
there will be different stations and

1078
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,079
there will be historic photos and there

1079
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,079
will be a kind of a dosent who will talk

1080
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,319
through sometimes very briefly for kids

1081
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:49,920
who are just interested in filling out

1082
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,760
their maps but for other people who are

1083
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,920
interested in information. Pioneer Ferry

1084
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,440
that used to go between Manette and

1085
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,480
Bremerson is one of one of our stations.

1086
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,560
um for instance that but uh hidden

1087
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,720
artifacts that you would not otherwise

1088
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,599
know about in the history of Remington

1089
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,680
um and that will come alive for people

1090
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,079
for kids and adults alike and then

1091
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,160
they'll make their way back across and

1092
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,079
they can redeem their map their finished

1093
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,480
map for a cookie at Evergreen Pizza as

1094
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,800
well as a a duck from um the Turner Joy

1095
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,440
Museum and it's good for the USS Turner

1096
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,599
Joy Museum ship to pass as one for them

1097
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,079
and a guardian or parent of that they

1098
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,280
continue. So, it's it's really fun uh

1099
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,359
really special event. I will also do a

1100
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:35,599
narrated tour of the entire bridge loop

1101
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:37,839
and we have speakers along the route all

1102
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:41,680
the way from uh upper ro of vista park

1103
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,079
um another another sort of I think

1104
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,319
diamond in the rough you know yes it's

1105
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:49,040
along avenue I know but there's some

1106
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,359
really interesting history there and

1107
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:53,440
certainly lower road is has has some

1108
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,440
great great history um we'll have we'll

1109
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,520
have people all along al along the

1110
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,000
entire route um as we narrate and move

1111
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,760
along and we always need volunteers to

1112
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,480
make sure people are are safe. Um these

1113
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,760
are city streets that we're we're

1114
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,000
traversing. So anybody that would like

1115
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960
to go with us over at the crosswalk

1116
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960
locations that that those will be our

1117
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,160
primary areas where we'll meet some

1118
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,160
volunteers if you would uh be so

1119
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,800
inclined from around 11:00 a.m. to 3

1120
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,640
p.m. is kind of our sweet spot for for

1121
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,560
volunteer efforts. And as I said, we

1122
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,680
have a a website to register folks um

1123
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,280
who want to be volunteers and get

1124
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,000
t-shirts and be an official part of

1125
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,800
that. And I'm happy to answer any

1126
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,470
questions that you have.

1127
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,119
I partly invited Josh because of our

1128
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,599
discussions in the last few months of

1129
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,520
potentially looking at some historical

1130
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,000
tag tours within our park system, but

1131
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,160
thought this would be a great way to

1132
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,520
help out Josh and kind of see how he

1133
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,760
manages it and then we could look at it

1134
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,440
as as kind of a good guiding guiding

1135
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,880
document for us to be able to to do some

1136
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,440
um some walks within our park system.

1137
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,160
That' be great.

1138
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,040
>> Well, and it would be it would be great

1139
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,359
to have a a joint venture. It would be

1140
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:16,160
nice to support it over

1141
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,079
that would be a nice part for sure.

1142
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:20,640
>> Yeah.

1143
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,319
>> Josh, the website that I see on there,

1144
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:23,920
that's where we can sign up.

1145
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,440
>> Yep.

1146
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,200
I will send an email to Tim who can

1147
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,000
email it to you that has the volunteer

1148
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,560
specific volunteer sheet. Um I some

1149
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,640
suggestion that you know that it would

1150
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,960
be kind of cool to have parks commission

1151
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,240
you know the bridge is going to be

1152
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,720
really central the manette bridge will

1153
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:45,119
have four history stations so in in in

1154
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,119
the al coes so there's four al coes on

1155
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:48,800
the bridge and there will be a station

1156
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,760
at each one but like the crossing um uh

1157
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,079
on Washington Avenue at the bridge it's

1158
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,079
a busy crossing it'd be great to have a

1159
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,400
volunteer or two there and and then on

1160
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,119
the other side of the bridge between the

1161
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,040
roundabout. Those would be two locations

1162
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,079
that um that would be great to have

1163
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,240
volunteers from at the parks. Just a

1164
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,760
suggestion, but there are plenty of

1165
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,319
other spots, too.

1166
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:14,480
>> How was the screen for?

1167
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,240
>> Well, uh the flyer that you see there,

1168
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,480
we're hosting those around town. Um

1169
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,200
that's that's the main way. Um and then,

1170
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,280
uh social media. We are, we obviously

1171
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,640
have a website now, bridging

1172
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,920
verbton.com, and we're also on Facebook.

1173
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,720
Uh, trying to um, yeah, Richie Gmerson

1174
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:33,040
has a page on Facebook. I've done some

1175
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,280
videos promoting it. Um, and we have an

1176
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,680
Instagram that helps.

1177
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,680
>> Is this on the city website, too,

1178
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,079
>> probably isn't, but easily could be.

1179
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:45,520
It's a great suggestion.

1180
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,200
>> That would be great. I don't Yeah, I

1181
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,560
just don't see the city logos down

1182
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,720
there. I'm hoping we'll

1183
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:51,839
>> the city can get behind.

1184
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:54,160
>> We have not provided funding to support

1185
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560
it.

1186
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,880
>> One one thing um about the city. So the

1187
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,079
mayor will will speak um typically has

1188
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:04,000
um through all of the events and

1189
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:04,560
carnations.

1190
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,280
>> He walks too.

1191
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,560
>> Yeah. And he does. Yeah. Yeah. I think

1192
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,480
he's joining us on

1193
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,599
>> almost fall if not all walks. Yeah.

1194
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:13,839
>> But been great to have him there. There

1195
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,040
was one other thing I was going to say

1196
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,880
about that but can't remember. Yeah. So

1197
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,560
yeah, we certainly have lot lots of

1198
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,559
support from the city which has been

1199
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:23,119
great.

1200
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:26,319
>> If I go to that website and I can share

1201
00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:28,720
a link I mean I can copy and share it

1202
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,559
like Forest Ridge Park we have our

1203
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,640
monthly work party. I could share it on

1204
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,520
that page.

1205
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,319
>> You bet. Okay.

1206
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:35,680
>> Yeah, you bet. You can absolutely share

1207
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,760
it. Um we also everybody that goes to

1208
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,839
this event you can already get copies of

1209
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:41,839
this but there is a bridge to rich trail

1210
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:44,480
walking map that was made leadership kit

1211
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,319
class a few years ago made really nice

1212
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:48,640
one. I curated the different bits of

1213
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,480
history that's that are throughout.

1214
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,880
You'll see the the motif of that star

1215
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,000
the starfish there or the sea star

1216
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,400
>> um which you can still find on on street

1217
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,440
there.

1218
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,440
>> Um but also within that map and of

1219
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,839
course we'll we'll keep that um and

1220
00:49:03,839 --> 00:49:05,119
it'll probably be a part of a t-shirt

1221
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:09,280
too um that's coming out. So yeah um so

1222
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,920
that is on the city's website I believe.

1223
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,839
I think so.

1224
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:15,599
>> I feel like there's multiple electrical

1225
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,680
boxes that have the rack with the

1226
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,119
>> with the route on it, too.

1227
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,440
>> That's right. Yeah. I I loved that. Um a

1228
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,960
few years ago when that I think it was

1229
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,160
the public works department that

1230
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,920
actually put the funding, but of course,

1231
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,760
thanks to the arts commission for for

1232
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,559
that beautifying our our electrical

1233
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:32,319
boxes. Yeah, there's one at the corner

1234
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:35,119
of 11th and Pacific and then there's one

1235
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,040
on this side by the heart wall or the

1236
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,960
intersection of state that

1237
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,640
>> and you said the main volunteer hours

1238
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,319
would be like 11 to three. Do you have

1239
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:45,839
to be there that whole time?

1240
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:48,800
>> No. Um frankly um if you wanted to split

1241
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,079
it um or I would say 11 to 1 is really

1242
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,800
our high traffic time. So if you if you

1243
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,720
had a little time during the day um that

1244
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,280
would be the best time for us to ask.

1245
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,960
And for on the bridge in the alope, are

1246
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,319
we going to have like canopies or

1247
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:03,760
something for shade?

1248
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,160
>> We are. That is still uh the history

1249
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,720
museum and the Turner Joy Museum.

1250
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,400
Turnjoy has one of them and the history

1251
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,640
museum has three of the stations on the

1252
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,640
bridge and they are planning some kind

1253
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,640
of a canopy. We don't know how big we

1254
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,280
can really make it though because

1255
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,119
it's a limited sidewalk but yeah the

1256
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,200
hope we will have some kind of shape for

1257
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,800
the for the volunteers that

1258
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,280
>> means you're anticipating good weather.

1259
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,119
>> It means we're the sun to block the sun.

1260
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:36,000
>> Block the sun. Exactly.

1261
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,440
>> I wish it was raining. Well,

1262
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,920
>> we need the right

1263
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,000
question.

1264
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,880
>> Questions.

1265
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,079
>> Did you want to touch on the six

1266
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:48,079
o'clock? Because I think it's it's a it

1267
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:49,440
sounds really cool.

1268
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,240
>> It does.

1269
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,839
>> Yeah. I'm really I'm really excited

1270
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:54,640
about it. So, kind of handpicked um

1271
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,000
about seven different speakers. Um and

1272
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,359
uh I something that I think uh gets

1273
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:02,800
overlooked, maybe not overlooked in

1274
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,359
Bremerson, but that many of us are from

1275
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:06,960
here, but there are a lot of people who

1276
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,880
come to find Bremer. The Navy of course

1277
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:15,760
is a prominent presence always here and and we come here and we adapt to

1278
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Breton and we fall in love with Breton

1279
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,280
and that's certainly my story and I know

1280
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,240
many people share that story. So I we're

1281
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,440
curating a kind of a a unique story

1282
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,160
event where people will share either

1283
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,319
stories from history where people came

1284
00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:33,280
to Breton. Um there's a there's a great

1285
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,720
story of a of a woman who um her husband

1286
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:38,400
died on a fishing vessel. She was from

1287
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,280
Norway. She came and she was the first

1288
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160
uh employee to retire from a US naval

1289
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,000
shipyard right here in Puget Sound. and

1290
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,920
she worked in the sail off which of

1291
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,480
course the sail off at the future sound

1292
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,720
naval shipyard began because we were in

1293
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:55,280
the age of sale with like literally navy

1294
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,200
ships had sales on them and of course

1295
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,079
that's later they handle textiles and

1296
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:01,520
things like that for nuclear navy

1297
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,599
submarines and and aircraft carriers but

1298
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:06,319
this woman's story is one of adaptation

1299
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:08,000
she came to Breton she lived downtown

1300
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,000
and she became part of the fabric of the

1301
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,520
community we'll have we'll we'll have

1302
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,680
some personal stories that people will

1303
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,760
tell as well as just kind

1304
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,319
general people like Quincy Jones and and

1305
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:20,720
how they came here and how Breton

1306
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,880
changed them. And my hope is we'll tell

1307
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,640
a few stories. There may or may not be

1308
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,880
some trivia. I do like doing some trivia

1309
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,839
for for people. And um it'll be kind of

1310
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:32,319
a little bit of a variety show. Um there

1311
00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:33,920
will be Evergreen Pizza is going to sell

1312
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,440
pizza outside and of course you can get

1313
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,720
a drink um at uh at the at the Ross

1314
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,599
Theater. Um but the idea is it's

1315
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:43,440
entertaining. you'll learn some

1316
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,280
interesting facts but that we all leave

1317
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,680
kind of grounded in hey you know you

1318
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,760
learn something about history but you're

1319
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,760
the connection that we all share to this

1320
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,319
place

1321
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:53,760
>> and strengthening that connection

1322
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920
because Virginia Breton is all about the

1323
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,599
connection geographically this will be

1324
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,920
more of like our our connection that we

1325
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,520
all experience by as you know lived here

1326
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,710
and and

1327
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,240
we and it's complete all of this by the

1328
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,760
way is completely free it's made

1329
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,079
possible by our very generous service

1330
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:14,160
clubs uh the East Breton Rotary,

1331
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,480
downtown Rotary, and the Breton Central

1332
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,599
Lines. That's that's who's uh uh funding

1333
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:21,920
this. I should also just briefly mention

1334
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,119
that we um do help with paint supplies

1335
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,240
for the uh Manette Art Wall, the the YA

1336
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,319
graffiti invitational will be going on.

1337
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:32,240
And so, and there will be cans of paint

1338
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:34,240
for people who walk the bridge loop to

1339
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,240
be able to go up and paint something

1340
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,839
themselves and hear from the artists.

1341
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:39,359
And the artists are doing a big

1342
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:41,040
collective mural as they've done every

1343
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,960
year for this event as well. So it's

1344
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,720
another kind of cool I I sort of

1345
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,599
envision that as many spaces as we can

1346
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,240
activate you know on the bridge loop as

1347
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,720
possible you know in future years I hope

1348
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:56,640
to grow it even further and this year um

1349
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,559
that we are have partnered with Sunny

1350
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,800
Saunders who puts on Blackberry Festival

1351
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,040
and the the Bremer Bridge Blast um she

1352
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,280
has really helped me to grow and she's

1353
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,119
handling the logistics and making sure

1354
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:09,760
this year we're going to have

1355
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,000
portaotties for the first time a lot a

1356
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,200
lot of People have said, you know, this

1357
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,839
is a long walk. You, you know, it's good

1358
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:18,319
to be be able to have a bathroom along

1359
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:21,440
the way. So, um, yeah, that's, um, it's

1360
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,520
helped me to be able to focus on content

1361
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,079
and, um, and putting on, uh, the event

1362
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:30,230
making a specialist.

1363
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,160
» Sounds like a great time,

1364
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,200
>> doesn't it, though?

1365
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,079
>> Yeah, I'm really jazzed. But yeah, thank

1366
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,079
you for just listening and and being

1367
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,160
willing to support in any way that you

1368
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,240
want to. So,

1369
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:43,520
Thanks, Josh. Great.

1370
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,720
>> Thank you.

1371
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,040
>> I appreciate you coming down. Yeah.

1372
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:55,030
Thanks everybody.

1373
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,960
» Right.

1374
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,880
>> The dog part. Okay.

1375
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,119
>> Yes.

1376
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,440
>> Now on to Tubby.

1377
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,520
>> Tubby's Trail. Has anybody been to

1378
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,359
Tubby's Trail?

1379
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:08,400
>> Out in the harbor, man.

1380
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,160
>> It's out in the Hobbit.

1381
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,880
>> I know it. right right off the highway

1382
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,079
right near the bridge.

1383
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:19,920
>> Um this was a another good this one

1384
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,240
definitely shows you uh the type of

1385
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:25,920
fencing they utilized here. Um probably

1386
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,079
some of the most expensive fencing but

1387
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:29,680
um

1388
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,520
it's it's well utilized. It's a really

1389
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,040
nice facility. Uh this is a 1.2 acre off

1390
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,680
leash area uh within an 8 and a half

1391
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,000
acre park.

1392
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,079
um outside of the um initial entry area.

1393
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:48,880
Uh it's a three-foot vinyl coated chain

1394
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,280
link fencing. Uh doublegated bolt pin

1395
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,559
entry. Again, uh natural ground surface

1396
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,200
like many of the others. Um there's no

1397
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,359
dedicated walking trail within this soft

1398
00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:02,880
leash area. Uh so just really um

1399
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,960
conversation areas and um areas for dogs

1400
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,920
to roam. Uh there's water available from

1401
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,079
a higher fire hydrant which you can see

1402
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,319
in the center there

1403
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:17,920
um within the offish area and then there

1404
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,920
is a portable restroom on the exterior

1405
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,880
that is provided. It does have a shade

1406
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,960
structure which is in that bottom right

1407
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,920
hand corner and there is a separate

1408
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,640
small dog area. So as you enter in small

1409
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,559
dog area was to the right, large dog

1410
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:35,119
area to the left or to the left and then

1411
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,000
the large dog area to the right.

1412
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,000
Uh let's see. No agility or kind of play

1413
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,760
equipment there at all. Um area

1414
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,119
functions as a catchment for excess

1415
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:51,839
water. Um so you can kind of see in this

1416
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:53,680
bottom left corner.

1417
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,839
>> Yeah, that's where um it actually was

1418
00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:01,200
dry. Uh but you can definitely tell when water comes in that's that's really

1419
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,359
that center area becomes full with

1420
00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:06,799
water. Um and we can become very muddy.

1421
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:08,799
Yeah, it's between the whole it's within

1422
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:10,160
the whole structure.

1423
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,680
>> Yeah. And that's okay.

1424
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,839
>> Yeah.

1425
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:18,160
>> Let's see. Um things we noticed. Uh it's

1426
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,280
compact. Um functional dog park with

1427
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,599
basic amenities, separate areas for

1428
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:26,079
different dog sizes. Uh the history of

1429
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,079
this park since seems like nobody's

1430
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:31,920
been. Tubby was a black cocker spaniel

1431
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,319
and was the only fatality associated to

1432
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:36,079
the 1942's

1433
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:37,440
bridge collapse.

1434
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,990
>> Really?

1435
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,079
» Yeah.

1436
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,960
>> Um you can also see kind of in the upper

1437
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,000
right um we kind of briefly talked about

1438
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,960
accessibility. Um that's one of our

1439
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,079
overall concerns with all these other um

1440
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,040
even like this one. It did have a conc

1441
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,760
or an asphalt slab where there was

1442
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,160
accessible parking, but beyond that,

1443
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,319
nothing was accessible. The restroom

1444
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:08,640
facility adjacent to the accessible

1445
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,760
parking stall isn't even accessible.

1446
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,680
>> Um, just thought that that was really

1447
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,520
interesting throughout all of these. And

1448
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,280
again, with the natural surface in

1449
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,599
between, it would be very difficult to

1450
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:22,480
roll a wheelchair around. Um, so that's

1451
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,319
something that we definitely want to

1452
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:27,440
take advantage of with our park is is

1453
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,440
designing it so we can ensure that

1454
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,839
there's some accessibility not only on

1455
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:35,839
the exterior but on the interior of the dog park.

1456
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:37,680
>> And I think that checks a couple of the

1457
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,079
boxes that were within your slides as

1458
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:40,559
well.

1459
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:45,599
>> Yeah. So, if I might uh suggest that you

1460
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:48,799
look at perhaps a little higher of a of

1461
00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:52,079
a fence, three feet

1462
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,799
I've had dogs that

1463
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:56,559
without Yeah. You know, without

1464
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:57,760
>> Well, they kind of preface this.

1465
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,920
>> So, four, you know, even four feet, you

1466
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:01,520
know, it was better than

1467
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,079
>> And that was all part of these swaps.

1468
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,079
It's like taking some of the good things

1469
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,240
that other parts have done and some of

1470
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,440
the things that we think that we can

1471
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,079
improve on before we start to plan out

1472
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:13,680
ours. And so

1473
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,839
>> it's just more of an acknowledgement of

1474
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:18,880
what we saw and what we can learn from

1475
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,280
it.

1476
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,520
>> Yeah. And even looking at, you know,

1477
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,799
cost.

1478
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:26,079
>> Um maybe three to four foot is okay for

1479
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:28,240
a small dog area, but definitely not for

1480
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,200
a big dog area. So maybe you look at two

1481
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,079
different heights of fencing. uh just to

1482
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:35,839
make your your dollar stretch a little

1483
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:37,280
bit further.

1484
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,440
>> That fence would be expensive.

1485
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,480
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1486
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,160
>> Yep. Absolutely.

1487
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,119
All right. Ready to move on to the next

1488
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:48,880
one?

1489
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,960
>> Okay. Now, we're moving to Bandex Dog

1490
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Park, which is in Port Orchard.

1491
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,000
Uh Bandix is a 30 acre park uh in a

1492
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,119
natural setting. Uh so they have a 6

1493
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:05,119
foot high uh chain link fence which is

1494
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:09,280
only along the parking area. Um the off

1495
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,880
leash area is not fully enclosed. Um and

1496
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,640
it does have a double gate of bullpin

1497
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,200
entry and Brian can attest to this

1498
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,720
reason why the the fencing is only in

1499
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,559
this area is because they use the

1500
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,240
natural environment as the barrier

1501
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,359
throughout the rest of the park.

1502
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:29,839
Uh, wouldn't I say that he can attest to

1503
01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:32,559
this because this is a county park and

1504
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:35,359
he happened to work for county.

1505
01:00:35,359 --> 01:00:37,200
>> How many acres? 30 acres.

1506
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:42,799
>> 30 acres. Yeah. So, this is a pretty good size. Uh, wooded trails. Uh,

1507
01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:45,680
again within this larger dog park area.

1508
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,319
Uh, natural ground surfacing.

1509
01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:50,799
Uh, no permanent water source. Users

1510
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:53,839
bring their own water jugs. Uh there is

1511
01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:55,440
portable west restroom that is

1512
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,960
available. Uh natural shade beneath um

1513
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,160
the existing trees as amenities and

1514
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,839
users bring their own portable

1515
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:06,559
furniture. Um and I don't Yeah. So like

1516
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:08,880
on the bottom right hand or lefthand

1517
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,200
corner uh that was common in one of the

1518
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,119
other county parks as well that you have

1519
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:14,720
just plastic chairs that people have

1520
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,640
brought to be able to share and so

1521
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,040
people can utilize.

1522
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,920
Uh there is a separate small dog p small dog area although it was a little

1523
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,559
bit overgrown. So as you pulled down

1524
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:29,040
into the bark the majority is the large

1525
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,200
dog and then on the right hand side was

1526
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,200
a was was a smaller dog uh entry area

1527
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,280
that was totally separate from the large

1528
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,359
dog area. Uh no no agility equipment

1529
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:44,000
smaller points there.

1530
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,559
>> Yeah yeah yeah. So observations it was

1531
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:50,319
very natural low impact setting uh that

1532
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:52,240
relies heavy heavily on existing

1533
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,960
vegetation and park features uh rather

1534
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,319
than having built-in amenities. So um

1535
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:00,640
remind me this

1536
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,799
bottom right hand corner was that for

1537
01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:03,599
jugs?

1538
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:05,359
>> Yeah, this was just for water jugs.

1539
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:05,599
Yeah.

1540
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:06,960
>> So when they're empty if you get a

1541
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,040
chance grab a few

1542
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,640
>> fill them up bring back. So the pink

1543
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,640
that you see the the pink rectangle,

1544
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,680
those are the the dog doggy bags.

1545
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,480
>> So um they didn't necessarily have them

1546
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,200
in stations. Uh they were just kind of

1547
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,640
out hanging. So easy to access and hard

1548
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,520
to miss.

1549
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,440
>> Yeah,

1550
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,280
most definitely. You will see on the

1551
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,839
kiosk on the bottom leftand corner there

1552
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:34,960
is a scanner there.

1553
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,760
>> Oh yeah.

1554
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,880
>> So they do have the scanner there. Cool.

1555
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:45,829
I don't know that I've ever seen a red.

1556
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:47,760
» Yeah. So, we moved to like the red and

1557
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,400
the pink colored ones because they first

1558
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,799
off they started out in brown.

1559
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:53,680
>> Yeah.

1560
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,400
>> They became very difficult to find when

1561
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,160
people discarded them

1562
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,960
>> and then they went to green and green

1563
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,720
made it even more difficult to find them

1564
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,760
in the bushes and everything like so

1565
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,960
made it more obvious. uh by going to a

1566
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,160
brighter color.

1567
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:10,960
>> Yeah.

1568
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,680
>> A reminder to pick it up.

1569
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,000
>> Yeah. So, one thing that will be

1570
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,559
consistent among a lot of of these that

1571
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:21,359
I just made a note at the end, but is

1572
01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:23,039
something to kind of keep your your mind

1573
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,200
on, most all of these dog parks are

1574
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,640
managed by volunteers.

1575
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:27,280
>> Yeah.

1576
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,640
>> Uh very little staff time go into them.

1577
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,559
The upper right hand corner you see a

1578
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:35,440
garbage can. Even at most of these

1579
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,839
sites, there's garbage cans there. and a

1580
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:40,480
volunteer will come and roll it out and

1581
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,039
leave it out for the for the garbage

1582
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:49,839
truck to come and pick up. So, a lot of um whether they're um

1583
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:52,240
stewardship groups or just volunteers

1584
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,520
that sign up, a lot of the dog parks are really managed by the users

1585
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,000
themselves.

1586
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,160
Anything

1587
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,960
else on

1588
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,470
panics?

1589
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,480
Okay, next one. How farm? Anybody been

1590
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,599
to How farm?

1591
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:12,079
>> Yeah.

1592
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:14,880
>> Yes. Yeah. Okay. I really like that. I

1593
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,480
really like the separation of this one

1594
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,559
between the the nice open kind of field

1595
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,200
areas and then the fenced in area.

1596
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:21,760
>> Yeah.

1597
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,839
>> So, how farm is a 13 acre dog park uh

1598
01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:28,880
that's has forest and meadow settings.

1599
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,280
uh has five foot high fencing with chain

1600
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,160
link and double gated bolt pin entry. Uh

1601
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,119
so wire mesh fencing used in other areas

1602
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:38,960
which is something that I think we

1603
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,839
should look at as well. Uh so having

1604
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:43,760
that stronger, more durable where your

1605
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680
bulkhead and entries are, but then

1606
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,000
having uh something that's just more of

1607
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,640
a a necessary barrier but less cost um

1608
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,640
in other parts of the uh dog park off

1609
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,520
leash trails throughout. wooded areas

1610
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,799
combined uh with that massive open

1611
01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:04,799
meadow space. So, kind of two different

1612
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:08,400
levels of of meadow for this park. Uh

1613
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,960
there's no water source. Um but there's

1614
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,280
portable restrooms that are available.

1615
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,440
Uh no permanent shade structures, but

1616
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,520
shades provided by natural wood setting

1617
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,280
and there are some picnic tables

1618
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,319
throughout. Um no separate areas in this

1619
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:24,720
one as well uh between large and small

1620
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,760
dog areas. um no agility. Um it's

1621
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,240
natural surface. Uh things that we

1622
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,640
observed. Uh this kind of combines the

1623
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,480
benefits of wooded trails and open

1624
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,839
meadow space in a natural park setting.

1625
01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:41,119
>> How big was this one?

1626
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:42,559
>> 30 acres.

1627
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,960
>> 13

1628
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,480
>> is what I've got. What do you think it

1629
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:46,799
is?

1630
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:49,760
>> 6.6.

1631
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,119
acres. And that is a a permanent

1632
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:53,920
rental car.

1633
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,240
>> Yeah.

1634
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,039
>> Okay. Oh. Oh, yeah. That's right. Burn

1635
01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:58,400
restroom over there.

1636
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,839
>> Um, so maybe the whole area was 13.

1637
01:06:01,839 --> 01:06:04,079
>> And this is what you're talking about in

1638
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:07,920
terms of the the kind of the the more

1639
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,240
mesht type sensing and then the natural

1640
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,640
growth that grows up around it to

1641
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,000
support that barrier.

1642
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,599
>> Yeah. So you'll see down here at the

1643
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:17,440
very bottom of the field, this is a big

1644
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,039
open field down here

1645
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:22,319
>> and and blackberries and natural

1646
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:24,559
vegetation from Strawberry Creek is kind

1647
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:26,960
of encroached on the field fence

1648
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,760
creating that barrier. But the thought

1649
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,280
process into this was exactly what Tim

1650
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,280
uh noted was, you know, the bullpen a

1651
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,160
little little more stout uh a little

1652
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,839
more rigid and then uh kind of keeping a

1653
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:48,319
more open visual or visually open

1654
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:54,160
setting and then vegetation's allowed to grow back. there.

1655
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,319
>> And the the other nice thing about this

1656
01:06:56,319 --> 01:07:02,160
park from a user perspective is that the trails are just kind of winding, you

1657
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,640
know, meandering kind of through the,

1658
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,119
you know, it's it's it's a nice setting

1659
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:09,520
and the dog the dogs move along with

1660
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,920
you, you know, rather than back up and

1661
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,880
do some movement.

1662
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,119
>> It was it was well attended the day that

1663
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:17,920
we were there.

1664
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,079
>> Yeah, it was very busy. And I made a

1665
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:22,240
mistake. I said six dog park barks. We

1666
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,440
went to eight.

1667
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,240
>> Wow.

1668
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,920
>> I lost track.

1669
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,640
>> We did four one day, four another day.

1670
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,559
>> Yeah. And this was kids at property

1671
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:33,280
again at this particular

1672
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,280
>> Yeah.

1673
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,119
>> All right.

1674
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:38,960
Then on to Bainbridge Island. We had big

1675
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,599
expectations for the Banebridge folk.

1676
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:45,920
>> Uh but we were very disappointed. I'll say that.

1677
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,200
>> Wow. Um, so hopefully none of them are

1678
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,920
listening tonight.

1679
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,039
>> Red doesn't have We're good.

1680
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:58,079
>> Okay. So, we were at Eagleale Park, uh,

1681
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:02,000
off leash area. Uh, this is a 1 acre off

1682
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,559
leash area within a larger park. Um, so

1683
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:09,920
access to it, it's located in the upper

1684
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,160
and back end of the park area. uh access

1685
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,480
is a walk-in from a parking lot at the

1686
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:18,719
bottom of the hill. Almost seems like

1687
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:20,480
there should have been a home site up

1688
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:22,159
above at one point and maybe they

1689
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:23,759
donated the property to the park

1690
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:25,520
district. Uh but there's definitely no

1691
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,120
home up there anymore. There's a lot of

1692
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,839
broken concrete. Um some pathways that

1693
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:31,839
don't make sense and even getting down

1694
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:36,000
to the dog park area in the very back is

1695
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,960
steps. Um and so it's completely

1696
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,480
unaccessible. Um, even the uh the slope

1697
01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:45,040
up from the parking area isn't something

1698
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,759
that someone would be able to access.

1699
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:49,359
>> No, it says right here.

1700
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,000
>> Yeah. Um, it's steeper than what we're

1701
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,759
making it look. We're just Yeah.

1702
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:55,920
>> Raw athletes.

1703
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,600
>> What does that sign say that you're

1704
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,759
standing next to that you can't

1705
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:00,880
>> off leash area?

1706
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,080
>> Is that what it says?

1707
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,600
>> Uh, yes.

1708
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,480
>> Okay.

1709
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:05,279
>> A little faded.

1710
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,480
>> Which one are you looking at?

1711
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:08,080
>> One where you're standing next to that.

1712
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,679
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. is

1713
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:11,040
awfully shared.

1714
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,040
>> Yeah, I was pulling the limb back

1715
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,159
because it was like,

1716
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:15,920
>> oh man, that sign looks

1717
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,560
>> need some love.

1718
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,319
>> Yeah, it needs some love.

1719
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:20,239
>> And here's some maintenance.

1720
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,000
>> Yes.

1721
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,920
>> So, the fencing in the park varies

1722
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,199
between four to six foot high and fence

1723
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:30,239
along the fence area. Uh you can see on

1724
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,319
the upper right that there is a small

1725
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,400
trail that kind of meanders around, but

1726
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,880
it's a very small um very small dog

1727
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,239
park. Uh no water source or restrooms uh

1728
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,040
within the off leash area. There was a

1729
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,759
restroom down below uh where the main

1730
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:50,640
parking area was. Uh no, let's see. Uh

1731
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,239
limited uh amenities. Uh primarily a

1732
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:57,600
natural park setting. Uh no separate

1733
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,400
small dog, small or large dog area, just

1734
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,800
allin-one. Uh no type of agility. Um you

1735
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:11,270
can see on the bottom of the um

1736
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,040
» yeah bottom of the kiosk they have a

1737
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,600
bucket there so people would put uh

1738
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,280
tennis balls in there

1739
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,080
>> which was kind of a cool idea um that

1740
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,320
they had you know a spot that people

1741
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,000
could drop a tennis ball or if they

1742
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,000
forgot one lost one there's there's

1743
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,640
something there uh that people can could

1744
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,239
share.

1745
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,400
Um, we kind of figured, let's see,

1746
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,080
seasonal conditions could become very

1747
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,480
soggy and muddy during the wet season.

1748
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:39,440
Uh, not a whole lot of direct sunlight.

1749
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:42,320
Um, things that we noticed, it was very

1750
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,320
small natural offish area. Uh, suited to

1751
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,480
be more of a neighborhood use. Um, and,

1752
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,360
uh, it's integrated into a little bit

1753
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,679
larger. Um, she noted as a community

1754
01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:57,520
park. I'd probably note it as just a

1755
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,920
neighborhood park. Uh the overall size

1756
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,719
or the space. Yeah.

1757
01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:04,640
>> Just because of the size.

1758
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,440
>> Yeah.

1759
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,679
The usable space. Yeah.

1760
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:09,199
>> So it could use some less.

1761
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:11,360
>> It could. Yeah. We've never seen that

1762
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,920
much moss on top of anything before.

1763
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,590
That was impressive.

1764
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,640
» Yes. All right. So the second uh

1765
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,320
Bainbridge Island spot we hit,

1766
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,920
Strawberry Hill. Uh much improved. Uh

1767
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,360
this is a um

1768
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,320
shows it is a halfacre or sorry half or

1769
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,800
five acre five acre five acre wooded off

1770
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,920
leash area um with a small and large dog

1771
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,520
area fully enclosed 4 foot high chain

1772
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,800
link fence and a large double gated um

1773
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,560
if you're familiar with an airlock

1774
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,199
bullpin entry. So air lock essentially

1775
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:54,400
there's you're not um the post you're

1776
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,360
not pulling up and down the clip. Um

1777
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,520
it's kind of basically spring loed and

1778
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,760
rests up against it. So once you're in

1779
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,520
the bullpin a dog could once it's ready

1780
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,480
push its way into the area that they

1781
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:11,280
wanted to go. So the larger small area.

1782
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,880
Um so that was the only one that we'd

1783
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,880
seen that way. They did use this type of

1784
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,760
fencing throughout the entire park. Um,

1785
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,560
so it had to have been quite an expense

1786
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,560
uh to put that in, but it's it's a nice

1787
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,560
fence.

1788
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:30,550
>> Yeah. Uh, wooded natural area. Um,

1789
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,800
there's no trails within the fenced in

1790
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,840
area. Although on the large dog side, we

1791
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,920
did see people that utilize the

1792
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,280
exterior. Um,

1793
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,199
let's see. There's water hose available

1794
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:45,840
for filling dog bowls, restroom within

1795
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,239
the larger park. Uh there's benches and

1796
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:51,120
seating uh with mature trees uh

1797
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,000
providing natural shade. Uh waste bags

1798
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,360
and receptacles are provided. Um

1799
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,520
separate like I said separate small dog

1800
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,320
area. They also had a training bay at

1801
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,560
this one which is that middle left

1802
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,159
picture. Uh so the out on the separate

1803
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:11,280
on the opposite um side of the little

1804
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,920
pathway from the large and small dog

1805
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,640
area was a separate training area or I

1806
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:17,920
would assume if you have a dog that

1807
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,600
doesn't socialize well it might be a

1808
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,440
good spot to kind of run your dog. It

1809
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:24,159
wasn't a real big space uh but was kind

1810
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:26,480
of nice to hadn't seen that before. So

1811
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:28,000
it's nice kind of separate area that

1812
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,040
they provided there. uh natural ground

1813
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,440
surface, although a lot of it was all

1814
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:36,800
mulch um throughout the entire which I'm

1815
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,960
would take to the water probably a lot

1816
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,280
better than some of the others uh parks

1817
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,480
that we've seen. Um nearby amenities.

1818
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:46,239
It's in a in a park where there's

1819
01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:49,040
playgrounds, sports fields, um various

1820
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,239
courts, skate park, uh picnic shelters,

1821
01:13:52,239 --> 01:14:00,470
and just other multiuse spaces.

1822
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:02,960
Dad, ready to go on?

1823
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:03,520
>> Let's go.

1824
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,040
>> We're getting closer to home.

1825
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,760
>> And how and how many acres I see?

1826
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:12,320
>> That was five. Five acres still. Yeah.

1827
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,040
>> Okay. KSO,

1828
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120
probably the least impressive dog park

1829
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,800
maybe that we saw. Uh Rob Park. Uh this

1830
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,400
is a.7 acre off leash area. um

1831
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,159
uh within a 21 acre community park. Uh

1832
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:32,719
so 4 foot high chain link fence uh

1833
01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:35,840
doublegated bulkin entry natural ground

1834
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,320
surface which within a larger community

1835
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,280
park uh no fenced in trails within this

1836
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,000
area. Water hose was available for

1837
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,000
filling dog bowls and there's a restroom

1838
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,040
that was nearby. Uh benches and seating

1839
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,080
were available. Um

1840
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,000
there was a small dog area, separate

1841
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,719
fence area provided some separation

1842
01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:58,640
between the large and small dog area.

1843
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,000
You can kind of see it off. Um well,

1844
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,920
we're on the upper right. We're inside

1845
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,760
the large dog and then you can see the

1846
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,520
fence on the left hand side for the

1847
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,159
small dog area.

1848
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:13,280
Uh let's see.

1849
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,679
Um

1850
01:15:15,679 --> 01:15:19,040
so it's close to um picnic shelters,

1851
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,199
playgrounds, sports courts, skate park,

1852
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:23,920
community gardens. Um

1853
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,640
it's a very compact off leash area. Um

1854
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,560
benefits from its location within a

1855
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,920
larger amenity um community park. So

1856
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:38,400
just a a small off leash space um that

1857
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,480
it larger.

1858
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:41,040
>> What's that?

1859
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,600
>> I said after. Yes. Almost an

1860
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,280
afterthought, but it's right at the

1861
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,600
entry to the main main park. So, this is

1862
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,560
kind of this is the uh the front porch

1863
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,679
of the main park.

1864
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:56,470
>> Yeah. As you come in

1865
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:58,640
like the ground was all dirt there, too.

1866
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,520
>> Oh, yeah. It's pretty much either all

1867
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,960
worn up or

1868
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,120
>> I've been there. It's really all dirt.

1869
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,880
>> Yeah. Go back there.

1870
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,560
>> The one side's pretty slow. I feel like

1871
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,000
the entrance

1872
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:12,960
>> where you're talking about kind of

1873
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,000
slopes off.

1874
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,840
>> Yeah. As you move further back, it

1875
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,520
slopes slopes off.

1876
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,640
>> Pretty good.

1877
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,159
>> Yeah.

1878
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:21,600
And then just again like the

1879
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,600
bottom right hand or left hand corner

1880
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,040
just kind of an example of something

1881
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,560
that they provide there. They provide a

1882
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,000
shovel to talk through.

1883
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,679
>> Just have a shovel hanging out there.

1884
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:33,360
>> And nobody stole there.

1885
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:39,440
>> No. Sorry. No, they have it. No, it's there.

1886
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:41,199
All right.

1887
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:44,719
Okay. Silverdale Dog Park is a 1.3 acre

1888
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:47,280
off leash area uh within Silverdale

1889
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,400
Rotary Gateway Park. Uh it has 4 foot

1890
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,400
high chain link fencing and double gated

1891
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,840
bullpin entry. Um

1892
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,920
it's directly adjacent to the Cedar

1893
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,480
Creek Trail providing opportunities for

1894
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:03,040
leashed uh walks before and after dog

1895
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,840
park use. Um

1896
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,239
there's a water spigot and restroom that

1897
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:11,920
are available adjacent. Uh this one also

1898
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,679
had a storage shed that was in before

1899
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:17,760
you entered in for the volunteers to be

1900
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,239
able to access the various supplies

1901
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:23,280
which I thought was kind of interesting.

1902
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,840
Um there's benches and seating mature

1903
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,199
trees. Uh they used a carport structure

1904
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:32,960
for the the shade structure. uh waste

1905
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,520
bags and receptacles are provided there.

1906
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,520
Also, similar to uh one of the parks in

1907
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,679
Port Orchard there, and you can see them

1908
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:44,159
kind of in the middle on the right, um

1909
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,560
some chairs that people have donated uh

1910
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,000
for seating there as well.

1911
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,640
Uh let's see, they do have a separate

1912
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,760
fenced in area for small dogs, natural

1913
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,960
ground surface. Um there was quite a few

1914
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,520
people there that day, so uh definitely

1915
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,920
was getting dusty. Um and then you

1916
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,440
figured that it would be pretty muddy in

1917
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:07,280
the winter weather unless you have some

1918
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,199
ground growth that that kind of covers

1919
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:13,040
things back up. Observations uh is very

1920
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,440
popular and convenient location. Our

1921
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,280
parking could become busy because it

1922
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,400
also serves as a parking lot for the

1923
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,040
main recreational pathways and uses to

1924
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,360
the main part of the park.

1925
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,199
This is the one off Silverdale Way by

1926
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:31,990
the skate park.

1927
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:32,960
» Yeah.

1928
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,880
I've seen people that that little

1929
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,239
parking lot gets packed.

1930
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:39,920
>> It does. Yeah. And it was we were there

1931
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,840
>> was a Wednesday or a Thursday, but we

1932
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,560
were there at 11:00 10 11 o'clock in the

1933
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,800
morning and it was packed. So,

1934
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,040
>> but they weren't all pretty.

1935
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,800
>> No, a lot of people on the trail.

1936
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,800
>> Oh, yeah. On the trails. Yeah.

1937
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,560
Definitely not everybody. Oh, there's a

1938
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,520
black. Yes,

1939
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,440
>> it's rounded.

1940
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:59,679
>> This one also, the other ones I didn't

1941
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:03,360
see it at all. Um, individual donations

1942
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,640
or in memory of pets, they had little

1943
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,040
plaques that were along uh different

1944
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,440
parts of the fence lines. Uh, so I

1945
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,760
assume they use that as, you know,

1946
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,840
fundraiser to to put amenities back into

1947
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,960
uh the the uh the dog park areas.

1948
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,520
Uh, so just a couple general comments.

1949
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,520
Um, one I already touched on the

1950
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,320
accessibility. Um, this one I can't

1951
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,280
remember if the volunteer group is noted

1952
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,239
on here, but we've we kind of discovered

1953
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:38,400
that there's this do you remember the

1954
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,520
name of their group?

1955
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,040
>> Kids Park.

1956
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,280
>> Yeah, it's probably something simple.

1957
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,480
Kids app dog park, Inc. uh t I think

1958
01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:49,280
managed at least three of the sites and

1959
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,280
so Colette's reached out to them to get

1960
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,120
more information

1961
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,960
um and just kind of see is that

1962
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,199
something is is Breton something they

1963
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:59,679
may even be interested in and if not can

1964
01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:01,679
we steal resources ideas how do you

1965
01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:04,719
manage the people that are um

1966
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:06,880
contributing and supporting each of the

1967
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,199
individual dog parks? So that was an

1968
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:10,960
organization none of us had heard of

1969
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,840
before. So, um, so that was that was

1970
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,960
cool to see see that partnership. I

1971
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,480
think maybe it was all the county ones

1972
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:21,520
that add it. Yeah.

1973
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,280
>> All of the county did you say?

1974
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,719
>> The three that we want to Yeah.

1975
01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:26,800
>> Oh, yeah.

1976
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:32,790
>> partner with this organization.

1977
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,960
That's it.

1978
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,719
>> It's all eight of them.

1979
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:37,679
>> Cool.

1980
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:39,360
>> So, you're ready first week.

1981
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,239
>> So, we're ready.

1982
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:42,480
>> Can you? Yeah. Yeah. So, we're we're

1983
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:43,360
ready.

1984
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,560
>> So, how many acres is Stephenson?

1985
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,199
>> Oh, I meant I meant to write that down.

1986
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,040
Yeah. Kind of depends on the space that

1987
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,360
we utilize. Is that open space area a

1988
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,880
couple acres?

1989
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,719
>> I'd say probably close to

1990
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:01,679
two acres of open space down below. And

1991
01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:03,679
then we have that upper area.

1992
01:21:03,679 --> 01:21:05,199
>> Yeah. Not including where we're looking

1993
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:08,880
at for this small dog area. And it

1994
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,040
doesn't include incorporation of any of

1995
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,000
the trail systems

1996
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,440
>> right if you went over.

1997
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:16,640
>> So we could have anywhere between two

1998
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,920
and maybe three to four acres total to

1999
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,960
work with.

2000
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,480
>> Well, thanks for all that work.

2001
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,880
>> Yeah, I think that was great. Great idea

2002
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,880
checking it out.

2003
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,800
>> Yeah, our plan next month and we'll get

2004
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,239
information out to you is that we'll

2005
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:34,320
have an on-site meeting. So then we can

2006
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,360
get out

2007
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,520
>> and uh we'll just hold the whole meeting

2008
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,800
there, but we can get out um and really

2009
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:45,040
look at the site uh prior to getting our

2010
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,000
um our steering committee put together

2011
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,000
to help really push this project

2012
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,990
forward.

2013
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,719
» You have a projection of the approximate

2014
01:21:56,719 --> 01:22:00,320
time frame of having it ready and to go?

2015
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,560
Uh, I mean, we'd love to be able to kind

2016
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,960
of get some, you know, the the public

2017
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,679
input process this fall, maybe do some

2018
01:22:07,679 --> 01:22:10,239
design work in the winter and depending

2019
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:13,040
on what we would do in house versus

2020
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,400
contract.

2021
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,120
>> Um, to go through construction process

2022
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,880
next summer would be ideal.

2023
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:19,440
>> Okay.

2024
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:22,080
>> Next spring summer.

2025
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,920
>> Were you the chauffeur on that on those

2026
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:24,880
trips as well, Brandon?

2027
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:25,679
>> I sure was.

2028
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,120
>> Yeah, you are.

2029
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:27,440
>> Good.

2030
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,560
>> Yeah. Was in my Ford Escape. Yeah.

2031
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,080
>> Oh, I was going to say he didn't have

2032
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,440
that.

2033
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:35,520
>> I don't let anybody drive me in the city

2034
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,159
for an escape.

2035
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:40,639
>> What the speak about here talk about is

2036
01:22:40,639 --> 01:22:42,960
even when this park was built, you can

2037
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,880
see along the backside that they also

2038
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,040
use vinyl coated chain link fence.

2039
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,880
But when you look at it right here,

2040
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:51,600
>> Yeah.

2041
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,120
>> not really needed.

2042
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,430
>> No.

2043
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:00,159
So something

2044
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:02,560
a little more simple like a field fence

2045
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,400
or something like that that's a little

2046
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,159
more practical

2047
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:09,280
um and a little more cost efficient will

2048
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:16,310
you know surely

2049
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,920
» so the location of of Stephson dog park

2050
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,639
it'll have natural shade just from trees

2051
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:24,960
and foliage so we wouldn't necessar

2052
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,719
necessarily need a structure.

2053
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:27,840
>> Well, I think that would be something

2054
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,159
good to talk about because I think we've

2055
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:32,000
talked about a potential to put a

2056
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,600
structure down there because it could

2057
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,280
the center portion could get quite a bit

2058
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:36,880
of sun, get quite a bit of sun

2059
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,040
throughout the day,

2060
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:39,440
>> right?

2061
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:41,920
>> But again, it gives us the opportunity

2062
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,080
too to use some natural barrier, but

2063
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,800
also use some trails. So, it could be a

2064
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,520
good mix.

2065
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,040
>> All right, I guess we're ready to move

2066
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,880
on. I see the next screen. the 27 28

2067
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,080
bianial budget update.

2068
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,719
>> Okay. So, as I promised throughout the

2069
01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:03,360
budget process, I'll just kind of give

2070
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,719
be giving you some tidbits and

2071
01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:08,560
highlights throughout. Um, so the check

2072
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,199
marks uh are things that we've gotten

2073
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:12,880
through so far. So, the kickoff

2074
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,440
happened. Um, I went in front of council

2075
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:17,040
and just kind of talked about what our

2076
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,840
needs are within the department. uh

2077
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,800
shared with them uh what some standards

2078
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,480
are uh across the country um as far as

2079
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:29,600
staffing levels, park sizes,

2080
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,199
um types of facilities that we we have

2081
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:38,480
to comparable communities. Um we've uh

2082
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:41,440
submitted our operating uh expense

2083
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:44,239
expenses and revenues. Uh we've also

2084
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:47,360
submitted our rates and fee structures.

2085
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,000
So, the only thing that I'm looking to

2086
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,520
change this year, I I changed all all

2087
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,560
fees last year, which was over 200 fees.

2088
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,199
This year, uh we're looking at really

2089
01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:01,120
focusing on golf course, which is where

2090
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,880
a majority of our revenue comes in

2091
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,880
anyway. um and less on um I'm I have

2092
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,880
concerns with pricing ourselves out of

2093
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:14,239
business and and recreation to me is a

2094
01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:17,360
um benefit to the community and um just

2095
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,239
making sure that uh what we're charging

2096
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:23,520
obviously covers our costs um but we

2097
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,840
don't want to lose participants because

2098
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,840
of what we're charging for programs. Um,

2099
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,080
and so department rates and fees, as you

2100
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,719
know, not noticed below, we'll cover

2101
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:37,840
that with council on October 28th. Uh,

2102
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,000
but the highlighted one is is the one I

2103
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,840
wanted to kind of cover with you today

2104
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,880
mostly was showing you uh because this

2105
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,760
year we submitted a a six-year capital

2106
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,560
improvement plan. Um, so our parks

2107
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,040
capital budget uh which coincides

2108
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,800
directly with the pros plan. Um, and so

2109
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,880
that'll be on the next slide. I can I'll

2110
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,880
talk through that with you. Uh but

2111
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,040
upcoming budget meetings uh so the

2112
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,719
general council workshops where they'll

2113
01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:06,719
hear from the various departments will

2114
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:09,840
be on October 22nd and 26. We don't know

2115
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,639
who will present when yet. Uh October

2116
01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:15,120
28th will be dedicated to just read some

2117
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:19,199
fees. Uh early November will be the

2118
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,120
opportunity for council to ask

2119
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,280
departments questions and hopefully we

2120
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,120
can answer them as much as we can on

2121
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,239
site. and then for uh council to talk

2122
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:29,920
about whether they want to have any sort

2123
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,400
of priorities. Uh we have been given a

2124
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,679
direction like I had mentioned

2125
01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:36,239
previously that the council wants to see

2126
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:39,360
a zerobased budget. So uh nobody unless

2127
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,760
you cover it with increase in revenues

2128
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,719
or revenue to offset expenses. uh nobody

2129
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:47,520
should be presenting really any new

2130
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,920
budget other than stabilizing where we

2131
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,560
were this this current fiscal year uh

2132
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:57,120
for 2027 and for 2028 right now. Uh then

2133
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,679
following November 5th,

2134
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:01,120
>> I'm sorry. Is that

2135
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,080
>> all department?

2136
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,679
>> All departments. Yeah.

2137
01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:06,320
>> Yeah. And because we're we already run

2138
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,000
on a pretty tight budget in parks, uh we

2139
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,159
haven't necessarily been asked to look

2140
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:14,000
at making cuts as much as other

2141
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,159
departments have. So there's some

2142
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:18,719
departments that are doing some some

2143
01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:22,320
consolidation um with some with some

2144
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,719
positions but also looking at instead of

2145
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:27,679
contracting out some services um trying

2146
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:29,679
to provide that in-house and save some

2147
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:32,639
money uh that way. So uh there's

2148
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:34,480
definitely a lot of lot of work that's

2149
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:37,199
being done behind the scenes.

2150
01:27:37,199 --> 01:27:39,040
A quick question on you mentioned Gold

2151
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,920
Mountain and potential fee items. Are we

2152
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,960
talking greens fees and um rental of the

2153
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,960
facility for like what?

2154
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,880
>> Yeah, primarily greens fees. Okay.

2155
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,120
>> And so what we have listed within our

2156
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,440
fees and structures is a not to exceed

2157
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:58,159
rate because we run uh Gold Mountain um

2158
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:01,120
we have a dynamic pricing system. And so

2159
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,960
if you want to go and play, let's say at

2160
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,800
prime time at 9:00 am, you're probably

2161
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,360
going to pay what's listed as the peak.

2162
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,600
Um, but if you want to go play at 3 pm,

2163
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,760
you're going to be paying much less.

2164
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,560
>> Um, so like I said, the dynamic pricing

2165
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,800
and the not to exceed is what the not to

2166
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,520
exceed is what we is what we put in as

2167
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,560
our budget request for increases each

2168
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:22,880
year.

2169
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,239
>> And the other thing I just want to say,

2170
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:26,719
I mean, it makes sense. We're cascade

2171
01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:28,800
course is being improved

2172
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,440
>> and we have just a be those are just

2173
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:33,280
beautiful courses out there that are

2174
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,320
just highly soughta and draw people from

2175
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,239
all over our state to come.

2176
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:40,320
>> And even Cascade right now has a certain

2177
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,679
pricing structure and once it's

2178
01:28:41,679 --> 01:28:42,880
completed that'll change.

2179
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,840
>> Yeah. The fees are competitive and I

2180
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,000
hear no complaint. I I personally don't

2181
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,080
golf but I have a lot of friends that do

2182
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,560
and they just rave about golf.

2183
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:53,440
>> Oh yeah.

2184
01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:55,280
>> Yeah. I mean, and I've started playing a

2185
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:56,719
lot of different courses around the

2186
01:28:56,719 --> 01:28:59,600
area, and there's some that, especially

2187
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,520
12 months a year, I feel like ours are

2188
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,080
in way better shape, and I'm paying, you

2189
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,560
know, $30, $40 more to play somewhere

2190
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,440
else.

2191
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:10,080
>> Uh, when really we're probably the one

2192
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,000
of the best deals. And I know council

2193
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,360
looks at that and says, "Okay, well,

2194
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,040
let's charge more." But at the same

2195
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,040
time, we still want to function as a

2196
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,920
municipal course. Um when you want to

2197
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,520
grow you want to grow partly

2198
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,520
participation there hopefully you want

2199
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:25,840
to keep

2200
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,199
>> yeah and there's some some other things

2201
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,000
and maybe this next year uh because with

2202
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,800
Cascade uh that project starting to move

2203
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,679
forward I also had a meeting today where

2204
01:29:35,679 --> 01:29:37,920
we're looking at redesigning the

2205
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,159
practice facility

2206
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:43,760
um uh modernizing things but then also

2207
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,719
making it more interactive and and

2208
01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:49,199
entertaining entertainment type value to

2209
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:52,159
that space. Um, so bringing things in

2210
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:55,280
like fire pits, cornhole, uh, other

2211
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,280
things that will entice people to come

2212
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,840
out and hang out. U, maybe a small venue

2213
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,040
where someone could perform as well. So,

2214
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:04,560
incorporate some of these things in, but

2215
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,440
also with our driving range, um maybe

2216
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:09,840
not make it quite the top golf or a

2217
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:14,639
virtual golf, but bring in um the

2218
01:30:14,639 --> 01:30:17,840
ability for someone to be able to use uh

2219
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,560
the track tracer and see how far they're

2220
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,800
actually hitting as opposed to looking.

2221
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,480
So, bring some of that technology in

2222
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:27,120
without going to the extent that that

2223
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,600
some of those entertainment venues go

2224
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,960
to. So cool stuff.

2225
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,159
>> I have to admit I'm ignorant on I didn't

2226
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:37,920
know I knew you could make reservation

2227
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,800
times, but I didn't know you paid for

2228
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,440
specific times and you paid you paid

2229
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:45,199
more at a better time.

2230
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:45,840
>> Y

2231
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:46,639
>> Oh, okay.

2232
01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:47,920
>> Y

2233
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,239
>> and and people are willing to pay.

2234
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:51,600
>> Absolutely.

2235
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,870
>> Convenience

2236
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,480
for convenience. I knew that you could

2237
01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:59,120
make a reservation, but I know my

2238
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,120
neighbor who is leaving at six o'clock

2239
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,360
in the morning to go golfing on the

2240
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:07,199
weekends is probably going

2241
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:07,840
dark.

2242
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:08,880
>> Yeah.

2243
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,239
>> Okay. All right. Thanks.

2244
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:11,840
>> Yeah. Usually the first tea times,

2245
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,760
especially if you're fall, winter,

2246
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,760
spring, they hold it off a little bit

2247
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,800
because they do uh but usually your

2248
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,800
first tea times are between 6:30 and

2249
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,360
6:45 in the morning.

2250
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,719
>> The early birds.

2251
01:31:24,719 --> 01:31:26,560
>> Yes. Yes.

2252
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,840
>> So, um the the main public hearings uh

2253
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,440
in front of council. So, that'll give

2254
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,760
the opportunity for the the public after

2255
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,239
it's published uh after the budget's

2256
01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:39,280
published um for comments. Uh but

2257
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,360
November 11th and 18th will be those

2258
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,520
public hearings. Um these are just kind

2259
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,600
of estimates for now. council could act

2260
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,520
could end up delaying this if they want

2261
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,960
to deliberate more, but um prior to but

2262
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,360
the plan is is to be able to get it uh

2263
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,880
forwarded on um public hearings be the

2264
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:58,880
11th and 18th with the adoption on

2265
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,360
November 18th

2266
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,080
um is what's planned for for right now.

2267
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,679
So, as far as um what can the commission

2268
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:10,800
do to help support um I'll kind of keep

2269
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,520
you in the loop on that. Um, I'll let

2270
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,320
you know when I plan to present. Um,

2271
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,159
there's not necessarily any public

2272
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:20,880
feedback during that time frame. Um, I

2273
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,400
will be bringing the golf course for the

2274
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,159
rates and fees just because that's where

2275
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:26,239
we're really focusing. So then Columbia

2276
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:29,040
Hospitality as the professionals uh can

2277
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,000
explain their reasoning and and looking

2278
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,199
at why they chose the price structure uh

2279
01:32:35,199 --> 01:32:38,719
to present uh for this next year. Um

2280
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:40,560
probably more of the public hearings if

2281
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,560
it does seem like we need some support

2282
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,120
or want some support or if you'd like to

2283
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:46,800
provide support that's probably the best

2284
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,679
time frame uh would be uh for the public

2285
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:51,440
hearings if you wanted to get up and

2286
01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:52,480
you'll share that with us.

2287
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:54,080
>> I'll definitely share that. Yeah.

2288
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,639
>> Yeah.

2289
01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:59,199
So between now and early October,

2290
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:00,800
this is really kind of the time frame

2291
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,920
that that finance department is kind of

2292
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,920
compiling everything, starting to meet

2293
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,679
with the mayor this next week, I

2294
01:33:07,679 --> 01:33:10,159
believe, and walking through uh the

2295
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:12,560
anticipated budget before it goes to

2296
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,320
council for council to have a good look

2297
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:18,080
at it for a a good month or so before um

2298
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,560
our presentation start in mid to late

2299
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:26,390
October.

2300
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:27,360
That's all I got.

2301
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:28,560
>> Money. That's all.

2302
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,040
>> Oh, I forgot to share this.

2303
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,880
>> Yeah, she kind of wanted to talk more.

2304
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:33,600
>> Oh, yeah.

2305
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,159
>> So, this is Was this in your packet?

2306
01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:37,840
>> I can't remember.

2307
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:38,719
>> You know, I don't

2308
01:33:38,719 --> 01:33:41,360
>> I'm not I can send it out to you. I may

2309
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,440
have not put it in there.

2310
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:46,000
>> It may have just been this slide.

2311
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,480
>> Yes.

2312
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:48,159
>> Or maybe you didn't get it. You might

2313
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:50,320
not have gotten anything in in the

2314
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,840
packet. Um but I'll get this to you. So,

2315
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,880
this is our five six-year capital plan.

2316
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,639
Obviously, 2026 is what we're

2317
01:33:58,639 --> 01:34:00,800
anticipating spending this year. And

2318
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,040
then 2027,

2319
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,000
um these are the pro those are all the

2320
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,000
projects. We about 2 almost $3 million

2321
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,600
worth of projects is what we're looking

2322
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,880
at. A lot of those are grant funded. Um

2323
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,600
so, the first one, the 160,000, we I

2324
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,159
think we've talked about that. Those are

2325
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:22,000
that's the community development block

2326
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,360
grant funds. And so we'll be using that

2327
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,920
for um just some general improvements

2328
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,320
within the park system.

2329
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,600
>> And that excuse me if I can that is

2330
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,000
Breton.

2331
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,600
>> It's community development block grants

2332
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:41,280
that Breton partners with the county on.

2333
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,000
Uh but it's Breton. It's Breton.

2334
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,000
>> Well, it's Breton has its own fund.

2335
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,400
>> It's Breton. Breton has a 10 and then there's

2336
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,480
>> Breton.

2337
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:53,360
Yes. Okay.

2338
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,280
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, Breton

2339
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,159
>> and then we have 30,000 in there for um

2340
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:00,480
kind of getting that master plan started

2341
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,280
for Forest Ridge Park.

2342
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,159
Um some of these like the the 30,000

2343
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:07,840
there, we don't necessarily have a

2344
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,960
matching grant right now or a grant for

2345
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,199
that. So that's coming out of our

2346
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,679
proposals for that to come out of I

2347
01:35:15,679 --> 01:35:19,440
think parks capital for that one.

2348
01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:22,159
Uh Lions Park accessibility retrofit was

2349
01:35:22,159 --> 01:35:25,199
kind of talked about that and and uh

2350
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:28,400
that's become quite a a large larger

2351
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:29,920
project than we thought it would be and

2352
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,159
that's improving accessibility at those

2353
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:35,520
ports um and uh removing those slopes.

2354
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,120
but it's also going to cause us to put

2355
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,000
new fencing up and and basically level

2356
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,719
everything out there. Uh park security

2357
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:45,360
cameras. So between 27 and 28, we're

2358
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,960
looking at making improvements within

2359
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,199
our parks and adding security cameras.

2360
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:52,400
This isn't to monitor people, but this

2361
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,199
is in case something happens. So in the

2362
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:56,560
areas that we tend to have more

2363
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,199
vandalism, theft, uh we'll be putting

2364
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:03,679
some cameras in uh is the plan there. Um

2365
01:36:03,679 --> 01:36:05,280
the tree assessment and imple

2366
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,280
implementation. You can see that's a

2367
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,679
budget every year. That's kind of a if

2368
01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:12,400
we need to have a master plan or a a

2369
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,239
forestry a forest um urban forestry type

2370
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:18,880
plan created for certain areas, uh we

2371
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:20,639
want to all lot money within our general

2372
01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:24,000
fund account to to take care of those

2373
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,000
types of projects.

2374
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,840
uh the Pender

2375
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,120
Regional Park uh turf fields, the 150

2376
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,320
for this year, that's for the 90%

2377
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,520
drawings to be completed. The 2 million

2378
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,400
and the 2.3 million between 27 and 28

2379
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,280
would be the development of those two uh

2380
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,080
turf field projects. And so the 2

2381
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,639
million and 27 would be 500,000 from

2382
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:52,560
city funds and then 1.5 million from a

2383
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,880
recreation conservation

2384
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,199
um grant that we've applied for and then

2385
01:36:57,199 --> 01:37:01,119
the 2.3 actually the two 200 2 million

2386
01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:05,040
of the 2.3 would um be coming from a

2387
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,600
private source as a partner for that

2388
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,239
project uh that we've been working with.

2389
01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:14,080
and 300,000 uh would be coming from our

2390
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,960
uh our general fund account to round off

2391
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:22,000
that 2.3. Uh the 150,000 for softball

2392
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:26,239
field improvements. Uh that's to um

2393
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:28,719
remove and replace some of the infield

2394
01:37:28,719 --> 01:37:31,199
material on our three ball fields up

2395
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:35,280
there. uh get a u a much better user

2396
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:39,440
friendly um um type of material in there

2397
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:44,719
that can also um hold in um not hold in

2398
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:47,600
but let drain through uh rain when it

2399
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,360
comes in but it's just much better

2400
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,320
playing facility and and nonrock

2401
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:53,840
generating

2402
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,880
um surface as well. uh Stephenson Canyon

2403
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,080
as you know the the 285 there uh from

2404
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,880
Department of Commerce grant and then we

2405
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,960
just kind of have a standing item here

2406
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,719
for other parks facilities capital

2407
01:38:06,719 --> 01:38:08,960
improvements that's in case during the

2408
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,440
year we have something that needs to be

2409
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:14,159
addressed we have uh a budget that's

2410
01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:16,400
sitting out there within the general

2411
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:22,310
fund to fund those types of projects.

2412
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,480
» Yeah, I'll be happy to get get this to

2413
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:26,159
you. So then you've got it. I actually

2414
01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:28,719
have a Excel spreadsheet that if you

2415
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:30,239
click on each of the number, it'll tell

2416
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:33,119
you what the for funding sources are too

2417
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:35,840
that we've identified for that. And so

2418
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,520
that that form has the expense, but then

2419
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,800
also has a revenue uh area as well. So

2420
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,840
it's easier to read that way.

2421
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:46,639
>> Thanks, Tim.

2422
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:49,760
>> Yeah, great.

2423
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,000
>> I talked a lot.

2424
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,679
Anyone have any questions or comments?

2425
01:38:55,679 --> 01:38:57,440
No. All right. Now, we're going to move

2426
01:38:57,440 --> 01:39:00,480
on to commissioner's comments. Dave,

2427
01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:02,159
we'll start with you. You're right here.

2428
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:03,119
No. Nothing.

2429
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:04,320
>> Nothing.

2430
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,159
>> Director, I had a quick question. I

2431
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:07,679
don't I'm not sure if it's been talked

2432
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:09,199
about this commissioner or not. Could

2433
01:39:09,199 --> 01:39:12,000
you tell us what's going on down at on

2434
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,320
street where our mini park is because

2435
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,229
it's destroyed

2436
01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:20,560
» at the mini park or just Ninth Street

2437
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:20,880
and

2438
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,679
>> at the mini park? Yeah. So, so this is

2439
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:25,840
all a public works project.

2440
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:26,320
>> Okay.

2441
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:27,760
>> I feel like we did talk about this

2442
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:28,320
maybe.

2443
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,119
>> Yeah, we we looked at it last year.

2444
01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:31,679
>> Yeah.

2445
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:33,920
>> At one point. Um I think even someone

2446
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,560
from public works came in and presented

2447
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,480
um and showed talked about it. It's

2448
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:41,360
essentially um

2449
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,520
making storm water improvements within

2450
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,560
that area of Manette. And then I can't

2451
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,239
remember if it's an outflow is what they

2452
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:49,600
call it, but essentially it's going

2453
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,159
through a system before it enters into

2454
01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:53,040
the sound.

2455
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:53,440
>> Okay.

2456
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:57,920
>> And so with that um it's tearing up that

2457
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,440
park and so there'll be improvements

2458
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:00,960
that are going to be made. So we've got

2459
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,480
some trees that are going to be removed

2460
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:04,400
because of issues we're having with Rick

2461
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:05,520
systems.

2462
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,080
>> So there'll be Yeah, they'll be re

2463
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,000
replanting.

2464
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,320
>> Um if you're interested, I've got I got

2465
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,440
full plans in my office. Um, but

2466
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:16,960
essentially what's going back is we'll

2467
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,080
have a accessible parking stall, four

2468
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,320
regular stalls adjacent to it, um, a

2469
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,280
doggy pot bag, a garbage can, and two

2470
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,199
picnic tables. Uh, the other thing

2471
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:31,040
that's going to be a part of this

2472
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,280
improvement is,

2473
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,239
um, going from the grass area down to

2474
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:38,800
the beach area is going to be more

2475
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,040
gradual and easier to access. Yeah, cuz

2476
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:41,840
it

2477
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,159
>> won't be fully accessible, but it'll be

2478
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,600
much easier than it was

2479
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:46,400
>> to access.

2480
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:47,840
>> Have you seen it? Cuz we haven't been

2481
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:48,719
able to get down.

2482
01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:50,719
>> I just drove by it before this meeting

2483
01:40:50,719 --> 01:40:52,000
and it is

2484
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,440
>> you got to swim from downtown.

2485
01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:54,719
>> Okay. I was going to say

2486
01:40:54,719 --> 01:40:57,760
>> it is. Yeah. That big tree.

2487
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,040
>> I don't know what kind of tree it was,

2488
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,880
but there forever. I know the root

2489
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,719
system is crazy.

2490
01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:04,800
>> Yeah. And if you have seen anything

2491
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:09,199
posted lately on social media, um the

2492
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:11,119
work that's being done right now on the

2493
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:14,159
beach area in Smith Cove is tied to

2494
01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:15,920
that. This is the environmental

2495
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,840
remediation side of it. Okay.

2496
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,280
>> Um so there's a removal of rock debris.

2497
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:22,560
Um

2498
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,400
>> Brian can speak to a little bit further

2499
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,560
if he wants, but over the next couple

2500
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,280
weeks, we put a post out today to let

2501
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,040
people be aware of what's going on over

2502
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,360
there. So, it's a public works

2503
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,159
operation. It's a Department of Ecology

2504
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:38,480
grant and it's for storm water

2505
01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:40,880
improvement. And so,

2506
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,159
>> uh off of Nin Street there, it's a water

2507
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:45,920
quality. It's being able to treat the

2508
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:47,760
water before it gets sent out into the

2509
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:48,239
south.

2510
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:48,960
>> Okay.

2511
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,199
>> With that, uh there's some mitigation

2512
01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:54,080
that needs to happen. uh down in Smith

2513
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,040
Cove at uh Evergreen Park, there's a lot

2514
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,800
of angular rock that was put there

2515
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,880
decades and decades ago that has kind of

2516
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,320
migrated down into the cove. As part of

2517
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,719
that, uh there that same contractor

2518
01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:10,800
that's on Ninth Street is also doing the

2519
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,920
work removing those rocks and pull them

2520
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,000
out. So, there's a disturbance to both

2521
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,119
parks at the time.

2522
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:20,320
>> Yeah. Uh we're hoping to wrap up the

2523
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,480
evergreen word uh within about the next

2524
01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:27,280
week, week and a half,

2525
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:28,800
>> but then when it's all done, our park

2526
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,960
will be restored. And

2527
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,400
>> yes, it is.

2528
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:33,760
>> All right.

2529
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:34,560
>> Conviction.

2530
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,440
>> It's a public It's a public project. Got

2531
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:40,239
it. To be clear on that. One other one

2532
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:44,480
that uh once we get the design plans and

2533
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:45,760
work further is we're working with the

2534
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,440
East Breton Rotary to make some

2535
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:50,000
improvements to Bachmann Park as well.

2536
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,600
>> Um so they have already come out and

2537
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,360
done some some cleanup work button.

2538
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,280
>> Yeah, East Breton Rotary and we powered

2539
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,159
>> there's no expense to us for that and so

2540
01:43:02,159 --> 01:43:03,520
it's not listed as a capital

2541
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:04,800
improvement. Thank you.

2542
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,119
>> Um but but there are items within the

2543
01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:09,600
pros plan for Bachmann that we hope to

2544
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,520
address at some point.

2545
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,840
>> Perfect. Thank you.

2546
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,280
>> All right, Alex. Nothing for me.

2547
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,080
>> You had a wonderful presentation.

2548
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,760
>> Thank you so much.

2549
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,360
>> All right, Joan. I've got

2550
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:24,639
>> Last but not least,

2551
01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:26,639
>> I've got nothing. All right. I don't

2552
01:43:26,639 --> 01:43:28,719
have anything either.

2553
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:31,119
So, meeting ajourned.

2554
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:34,159
Brett Kylie usually leaves us with some

2555
01:43:34,159 --> 01:43:40,229
words of wisdom or a poem or

2556
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:41,360
» something.

2557
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:42,880
>> Nobody told me that was part of the

2558
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:44,320
deal. So, you're just gonna have to go

2559
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,709
without this this month.

2560
01:43:48,719 --> 01:43:51,440
» We'll make something up.

2561
01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:53,119
>> Thank you for joining us tonight. I

2562
01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:54,800
appreciate it.

2563
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,639
>> Yeah. You all have a nice evening.

2564
01:43:56,639 --> 01:43:57,679
>> All right. Thank you.

2565
01:43:57,679 --> 01:43:58,880
>> Bye.

2566
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,239
>> All right. You guys are getting