[0:02] There we go.
[0:07] » All right. Welcome everyone to our
[0:11] August Parks and Recreation Commission
[0:13] meeting
[0:15] August 25th.
[0:18] So, I'm calling it to order.
[0:21] Did everyone get a chance to look at the
[0:23] agenda?
[0:24] >> Looks great to me.
[0:26] >> I'll make a motion to brief tonight's
[0:28] agenda. Second. All
[0:30] >> in favor?
[0:31] >> I.
[0:32] >> All right. Thank you. And our meeting
[0:36] minutes from July since Oh, wait. We had
[0:39] our travel, didn't we? We have our
[0:40] travel.
[0:41] >> Yeah, there were minutes.
[0:44] >> All right. Approval for the minutes from
[0:47] the July 28th meeting.
[0:52] » Yeah.
[0:56] » All in favor say I.
[0:58] Thank you.
[1:02] » All right. See, do we have anyone on
[1:04] Zoom today?
[1:05] >> No.
[1:06] >> Nope. And we have only one person in the
[1:10] public. You have a comment, sir?
[1:14] » Just stand up and introduce yourself and
[1:16] welcome.
[1:20] » Don't worry.
[1:22] >> Yeah.
[1:23] I got a problem with in Forest Ridge
[1:27] Park.
[1:29] I like to see it's one of two things
[1:31] happen. Either there's a gate that's
[1:34] locked every night since the bathrooms
[1:37] are
[1:38] or maybe the parks department can work
[1:41] with the police department to get
[1:43] regular patrols after the dark. There's
[1:46] been several cars that come in
[1:50] after dark usually or just before
[1:54] And of course they leave litter. It's
[1:56] there every morning.
[1:58] But the big problem I seen lately the
[2:02] bathrooms block. Some of these cars
[2:04] spend the night there.
[2:06] And so
[2:09] in the last week or so I've had to clean
[2:12] up PCs in the playground. We're near the
[2:14] playground area behind the bathroom over
[2:17] on the picnic table.
[2:19] And it's pretty disgusting. It does get
[2:21] picked up. kids are going to get in it
[2:24] maybe
[2:28] a problem. So I think either either a
[2:31] gate or
[2:34] consistent control by the pixie dick
[2:36] them out. I assume the parks are closed
[2:38] at dusk.
[2:40] >> Yeah.
[2:41] >> So there's no reason why the police
[2:43] can't move on.
[2:47] >> Thank you.
[2:53] All right, we have staff reports and
[2:54] updates. First one, Bridging Birminton
[2:58] info and request for volunteers.
[3:01] >> Well, we're going to wait.
[3:02] >> So, yeah. So, Josh Farley, uh, we'll
[3:05] speak on that and he was coming over on
[3:08] the ferry. So, when he gets here
[3:11] back there,
[3:12] >> we'll put him back on once we get to
[3:14] that point.
[3:14] >> Okay. Good.
[3:17] >> All right. The new business
[3:21] Forest Ridge Park first street parcel
[3:24] surplus proposal
[3:26] chat.
[3:27] >> Yeah.
[3:36] » All right.
[3:40] So, first off, our agenda.
[3:43] Wanted to show some pictures if you
[3:45] haven't seen them.
[3:47] >> Stuck out.
[3:51] Then before he took the leap of faith,
[3:54] >> I guess I wore the same thing last
[3:56] month.
[3:59] >> You got an outfit.
[4:00] >> Yeah,
[4:02] >> we wanted to share some some of the
[4:04] pictures. If you hadn't seen those
[4:05] pictures, they turned out really well.
[4:07] Colette was was hoping that her head
[4:10] wouldn't have been so big, but I was
[4:11] like, "Oh, it looks great. It looks like
[4:14] a selfie and a bunch of people behind
[4:16] it." That was good.
[4:18] >> That was a nice day.
[4:20] >> Okay. And Brett, you can see the slides,
[4:22] correct?
[4:25] >> Yes, I can see them.
[4:26] >> Okay, perfect. Okay, so as part of the
[4:30] uh the tour that we took, the very last
[4:32] spot, uh we were obviously up at Forest
[4:34] Ridge Park. And so uh what we wanted to
[4:38] bring after um getting some head nods
[4:41] from commission that yes you wanted to
[4:43] have the discussion at this meeting was
[4:46] to look at um surplusing
[4:49] a small portion of the park. So,
[4:52] separate out a parcel on First Street.
[4:56] And as you can see on this, uh, this is
[5:00] the outline for Forest Ridge here, which
[5:03] also includes this piece. Um, again,
[5:06] just to kind of recap,
[5:08] um, the conversation,
[5:11] um, really started from a potential
[5:14] developer that's looking at the adjacent
[5:17] property for development and was looking
[5:20] for an easement for emergency access and
[5:24] which could also um, change the type of
[5:28] use that they're looking at for that
[5:29] site. And so in evaluating the property,
[5:32] the type of use that we have now, uh the
[5:36] adjacent property here, which is
[5:39] formerly Renaissance High School, which
[5:41] is moving up to View Ridge, uh so
[5:44] they'll be taking up about half of the
[5:47] View Ridge school site. Uh they seem to
[5:51] be the predominant user. At lunchtime or
[5:53] breaks, they would be outside. We have a
[5:55] couple tables there, a garbage can, but
[5:58] really not much else. it's not really
[6:00] tied to or connected to the main part of
[6:02] the park. And so what we would be
[6:05] looking at doing is surplusing this uh
[6:08] listing it for sale um and doing having
[6:12] bids come in and we would probably set a
[6:15] minimum bid for the project for the site
[6:18] um and then being able to work with
[6:20] council to have those funds go back into
[6:24] future development at Forest Ridge Park.
[6:27] Um, typically we don't look to surplus
[6:30] property um because once it's gone, it's
[6:34] gone. Uh, but in evaluating this site,
[6:37] it's it's not a portion of the park that
[6:40] that's really well utilized um by the
[6:45] community and um isn't really tied into
[6:48] the rest of the park. Um some another
[6:51] benefit to the sale of this is it would
[6:53] put it I know it's a small parcel but it
[6:55] puts it back on the tax role as well. Um
[6:58] so it would not um be a city asset at
[7:02] that point. So uh I've also listed here
[7:06] the procedures um that are listed within
[7:09] our code. Uh the parks board um is being
[7:14] consulted. Uh so we count last month
[7:17] having the conversation there and having
[7:19] a conversation here as working with the
[7:22] parks board um providing you all the
[7:24] details concerning the proposed sale.
[7:28] Uh the parks board shall prepare an
[7:30] advisory report and submit it to city
[7:32] council and the mayor. And that's
[7:34] definitely something that we as staff
[7:36] would be happy to work with you on. Um,
[7:38] and what I would probably look for is uh
[7:42] as part of this agenda item, maybe a
[7:44] motion for uh Kathy to work with staff
[7:48] to develop um and prepare the advisory
[7:52] report to be presented to council and
[7:55] the mayor. So that would most likely
[7:57] happen at a study session uh before it
[8:01] would go to the public hearing. So with
[8:04] this uh with a surplusing uh park
[8:07] property, it would require a minimum of
[8:10] two uh public hearings. So that would be
[8:12] a two separate meetings. Um, and then
[8:15] council maybe after the first, and
[8:18] Brett,
[8:19] uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe
[8:21] after the first they could decide if at
[8:23] the second uh, if there's not a lot of
[8:25] response or any response that may be at
[8:29] the same meeting as a second hearing,
[8:30] they could uh, vote on it or it may have
[8:33] to go to a third uh, meeting. So, there
[8:36] would be a series of opportunities for
[8:38] the public to to speak out on this uh,
[8:40] potential sale of the property.
[8:43] Um, so notes, uh, if there is a proposed
[8:47] sale, if that's what we're looking at
[8:49] doing, um, the, uh, council would
[8:53] evaluate the report that's provided to
[8:56] them by, by the commission,
[8:59] um, and then develop findings and
[9:01] conclusions to support declaring this as
[9:04] surplus and, um, selling the property.
[9:08] uh with that um a unanimous vote would
[9:11] need to uh take place of the council and
[9:15] I believe that's part of the parks
[9:17] protection act that went into place
[9:19] through a citizen vote um gosh back I
[9:22] think in the 70s sometime
[9:25] um
[9:26] uh would require any park parcel to be a
[9:30] full unanimous vote by the council.
[9:33] Um, so
[9:36] in absence of that, if there wasn't a
[9:37] unanimous unanimous vote, if we wanted
[9:39] to move forward, it could go to the
[9:41] public for a vote. Um,
[9:45] which would mean obviously the cost of
[9:47] putting it on a ballot and that process.
[9:50] Um, so that would be something if we
[9:52] didn't get a full council um, unanimous
[9:56] vote, we may want to bring it back and
[9:58] discuss and see what we want to do
[9:59] moving forward if that's a process we
[10:02] want to seek out or not. Um, so anything
[10:06] short of that, Brett, do you have
[10:07] anything you wanted to add or correct?
[10:10] No, I just wanted to clarify for for a
[10:13] uh the the commission will have to have
[10:17] to, you know, take a final approval vote
[10:20] on any on any advisory report before
[10:22] it's
[10:24] sent off. So,
[10:26] >> okay. So what we would be looking at is
[10:28] maybe at this meeting um we get the
[10:31] commission if the commission so chooses
[10:33] to um gives us the go ahead to move
[10:36] forward and then we would provide that
[10:39] report at the next meeting for your
[10:40] review.
[10:41] >> Right. I think that's typically how it goes.
[10:44] >> Okay.
[10:47] » Has there been any talk about like how
[10:48] much money we think this parcel is
[10:50] worth?
[10:52] We've talked about it, but we haven't we
[10:55] don't know a number. Um, and that's
[10:57] something that during the process I
[10:58] would want to find out is what do we
[11:00] think the parcels worth? It's and which
[11:02] is tough because
[11:04] >> Yeah. The parcel value may be different
[11:07] than the value to the developer.
[11:09] >> Of course.
[11:09] >> Yeah.
[11:10] >> Of course.
[11:11] and and final parcel values are
[11:14] something that city council discuss
[11:16] discusses in executive sessions so that
[11:18] it's not necessarily public before any
[11:21] um decision is made so that it you know
[11:24] isn't in the public record for anybody
[11:26] to take advantage of. So
[11:28] >> Right. And and on that Brett is it
[11:31] typically a sealed bid
[11:35] when it comes to property sales?
[11:39] um they don't necessarily have to go to
[11:41] bid. You can directly negotiate things,
[11:44] but again the council the council sets
[11:47] their um you know prices that they're
[11:50] willing to accept in an executive
[11:52] session. They discuss that so that it's
[11:54] not you know you don't want to be
[11:56] negotiating against yourself I guess in
[11:58] a public meeting.
[11:59] >> Exactly. Don't want to Yeah. You don't
[12:00] want to put something out publicly and
[12:02] then try to negotiate something else.
[12:06] >> Totally get that. Okay. Any other
[12:09] questions?
[12:17] » I'm I am um very encouraged to hear your
[12:22] reference to perhaps a private developer
[12:24] for that whole piece of property. I'm
[12:27] delighted with that. I'll bet you the
[12:29] school district is too many.
[12:31] >> Yes. So um and while that might change
[12:36] the nature of the well I mean being for
[12:40] emergency vehicles and everything I
[12:42] think the safety things that it it
[12:45] eventually provides will be very good.
[12:50] Well, living next to the park, I can I
[12:52] can also vouch for the inactivity from
[12:56] the public really coming in and using
[12:59] it. No one thinks to drive down here and
[13:01] they can park because there is parking.
[13:04] >> It's mostly utilized by the high school
[13:07] there.
[13:08] >> Yeah.
[13:08] >> Which is moving.
[13:09] So,
[13:11] >> and who knows what this district's going
[13:13] to that property.
[13:16] >> You think the city has trouble letting
[13:18] go of property? You ought to talk to the
[13:20] school district about it.
[13:24] >> They will never go back.
[13:30] » Yeah, I have no concerns with this
[13:32] either. I'm ready to make a motion if my
[13:36] committee is unless anyone has any other
[13:39] questions,
[13:41] concerns about this. Yeah, I'll I'll uh
[13:43] make a motion for uh the parks board uh
[13:46] namely the vice chair currently to um
[13:50] work with the parks and recreation uh
[13:52] office to uh prepare an advisory report
[13:56] uh for city council and the mayor on the
[13:58] uh surplus of this first street parcel
[14:00] that we're talking about tonight.
[14:03] >> Second.
[14:05] >> All in favor?
[14:10] to move it forward unanimously. Awesome.
[14:12] When you need a unanimous vote,
[14:15] >> good practice, right?
[14:16] >> Yeah.
[14:19] >> Okay.
[14:20] >> Nothing else we need from Brett. Any
[14:22] more questions for him?
[14:24] >> Great. Hopefully this progresses as we
[14:26] want it. Just
[14:27] >> Thank you, Brett.
[14:29] >> He'll stick around though just for fun.
[14:31] >> Yeah, I'll stick I'll stick around for
[14:32] the whole thing. But thank you.
[14:35] All right, we're ready to move on to B,
[14:39] the common street for homelessness
[14:41] response property management. I love
[14:43] that you send that. It's it's nice to
[14:45] see that
[14:48] >> and this is the reason why Brett's
[14:49] sticking around.
[14:55] » Good segue.
[14:56] >> You know, uh I'm going to start off with
[14:58] this slide. This is just kind of our
[15:00] monthly update and then I'm going to go
[15:02] ahead. The next slide is going to give
[15:04] us kind of where we're at year to date.
[15:06] If you guys recall, uh last meeting uh I
[15:09] spoke about uh in a in a plan weekly
[15:12] average that we're we're about 11 11 12
[15:16] or right in between there. That's a pretty good figure. Uh you're
[15:21] looking at 70 site visits in a month. I
[15:23] mean that's that's making a lot of
[15:25] contact.
[15:25] >> That's a lot of contact.
[15:27] >> Um 41 of them are meaningful
[15:29] connections, which is great. And then uh
[15:32] having 24 people that were connected to
[15:34] services within month all good things
[15:37] and uh seven of them have already uh
[15:39] entered shelter or some other form of
[15:42] housing. So uh good stuff there.
[15:46] >> Can I just ask what? Sorry. Uh is there a database being maintained
[15:53] of their content and who the people are?
[15:56] Sorry that I
[15:58] >> that is through more common streets and
[16:00] not within the city or parks.
[16:03] >> I'm sorry.
[16:04] >> How are you defining in full
[16:06] connections? What does that mean?
[16:07] >> People who are looking to engage and and
[16:12] willing to take resources and so
[16:16] >> um even though we there's 70 site
[16:19] visits, there's people that are out
[16:20] there saying, "Hey, we don't we don't
[16:22] want any assistance or anything else."
[16:23] making that meaningful connection means
[16:25] hey we're actively engaged in
[16:27] conversation
[16:29] um and we're looking to connect them
[16:31] into services um and so you can see the
[16:34] progression uh within this uh
[16:39] within the slide and so as we move on to
[16:44] uh
[16:45] since streets and and the city has uh
[16:50] been in partnership together
[16:52] some amazing numbers at over 3,000
[16:54] people. Uh here's our weekly uh
[16:59] in a in a plan weekly average. Like I
[17:01] stated, we're we're right there at 11
[17:03] p.m. Um so a lot of good stuff uh
[17:08] happening. Uh
[17:11] they are incredible benefit to uh
[17:16] >> two parts. I will speak on that.
[17:18] >> Brian, I had a question. the the uh the
[17:20] 3265 number of your site business is
[17:22] that individual people or could that's a
[17:24] potential where they contacted the same
[17:26] person multiple times.
[17:28] >> So generally those are just individual
[17:30] reports and sites and uh contacts.
[17:34] >> Although if there's a group of them
[17:36] together that would be one site visit I
[17:39] >> correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so
[17:42] potentially there's a lot more than just
[17:45] that number of
[17:46] >> Yeah. site visit may contain two, three,
[17:50] four different camps.
[17:52] >> Sure.
[17:54] >> Um, with that I the next slide is some
[17:58] of the things that some topics and
[18:00] locations that we spoke about uh within
[18:03] this last month's meeting. As you could
[18:05] see,
[18:06] they're all bars. Um, and so with that,
[18:10] I wanted to follow up with a couple of
[18:12] things. Um, for drone trails, it was
[18:14] evaluated on 84. It was posted on 86. We
[18:18] had clean up on 811.
[18:21] We also just had another cleanup last
[18:23] Friday uh starting at 1:00. Uh that was
[18:26] also post or evaluated, posted, and
[18:29] cleaned up. So, this is ongoing and
[18:32] you'll see that in next month's meeting
[18:35] uh the the last Friday's uh cleanup. But
[18:39] I just want to kind of throw it out
[18:40] there. This is this is ongoing. This
[18:42] isn't a one and done. This is this is
[18:45] constant within the buck. So that's kind of what I wanted to
[18:49] highlight here. Does city council get
[18:52] briefed on this and the mayor? Do they
[18:54] see this commission at all?
[18:58] I'm not sure exactly the connection
[19:02] does a either
[19:05] >> I know they're
[19:06] >> twice a year or quarterly they go to council and provide
[19:11] presentation
[19:12] >> and I've seen I've seen them present at
[19:15] individual council
[19:17] >> district meetings too. So
[19:19] >> so they're they're out there.
[19:22] >> Absolutely.
[19:22] >> Yeah. and we've occasionally tied them
[19:25] to our one of our committees that we're
[19:28] involved with with the city council. So,
[19:30] I'm sure Common Street will be involved
[19:32] with our new committee that we're on,
[19:35] the public safety and parks committee.
[19:38] We were on the finance, investment,
[19:40] parks and parking committee.
[19:42] >> We got moved
[19:45] >> uh last two months ago. Yeah.
[19:48] >> Yeah. So because common streets is so
[19:50] tied to public safety, um it'll be a
[19:52] topic of discussion and there's three
[19:54] council members on each committee.
[19:56] >> Yeah.
[19:56] >> So we can't have a quorum, but we have
[19:58] three three of the council members are
[20:00] hearing information more than just the
[20:02] general and then they typically will
[20:05] report that
[20:06] >> in addition to the presentations to the
[20:08] general council.
[20:13] » Any other questions on those?
[20:15] >> No more questions. I'm finding that they
[20:17] are a benefit to our parks. We've spoken
[20:20] with them in Forest Bridge Park and
[20:24] they've been such a benefit. Really
[20:27] outstanding people that are coming in
[20:29] and meeting with the unhoused or you
[20:32] know whatever and they're they're so
[20:35] respectful to them and they have all
[20:37] these options. So, it is a blessing to
[20:39] have them come in and assist with you.
[20:44] >> Yes. and with and with with so many
[20:48] resources available because we've got a concentration of resources.
[20:54] Yes. So, let's get the people to that
[20:57] and
[20:58] >> because some don't know.
[21:00] >> Yes. Exactly.
[21:01] >> We just are
[21:02] >> trying to survive
[21:04] >> and particip in the resource.
[21:07] >> Exactly.
[21:09] >> Having some experts come in and be that
[21:11] first line.
[21:12] >> Yeah.
[21:12] >> Is great for us.
[21:13] >> Right. Right.
[21:15] >> Do you know if there's any like followup
[21:17] after they've gotten in touch with the
[21:19] services
[21:21] working?
[21:25] » I think they
[21:28] that's
[21:31] >> all right. If no more comments,
[21:36] » Alex, you're up next. The parks usage
[21:38] and community suggestion outreach. I'm
[21:40] excited to hear what you found.
[21:42] >> Yeah. Some of it's not news.
[21:45] >> Yes.
[21:46] >> Um, so I did a survey with some blind
[21:49] clients. So basically over two
[21:51] consecutive Sundays, just about an hour
[21:53] is like from when they open at 11 to
[21:55] about noon because it's just really busy
[21:58] in the lobby there um during that time
[22:00] and then it kind of trips off. So I got
[22:02] about like 39 people like did 39 people
[22:05] >> and I asked them two questions. Um, I
[22:07] had a little survey and passed out 10 to
[22:10] hour. Sometimes I would like interview
[22:11] them if it worked out better. Um, but
[22:14] the two questions were how do you use
[22:16] the parks and what do you want to see
[22:17] from the parks or what do you want to be
[22:19] improved? Next slide.
[22:22] So parks usage. The most common things
[22:24] are let's say at the top um basically
[22:27] exercise, walking, hiking, enjoying
[22:29] nature, um, walking a dog or other
[22:31] animals. I did see a cat at Blueberry
[22:34] the other day. So it's not just dogs.
[22:37] >> They're there on a leash.
[22:39] >> Yeah.
[22:40] It's a very chilled cat. Um, and then
[22:43] taking kids to play and um, I don't
[22:46] remember what enjoyed spending time in
[22:48] the park. I'm not sure that one got cut
[22:50] off, but some of the less common ones
[22:52] that people wrote were, you know,
[22:53] parties, events, um, being by the water,
[22:56] hobbies, going for picnics, riding their
[22:59] bike. Someone said camping, but I think
[23:01] they misunderstood when I was talking
[23:02] about city parks. I think we're talking
[23:04] about state parks.
[23:06] >> Yeah.
[23:06] >> Um, and then just exploration sports.
[23:08] and using the bathroom.
[23:12] And these are some of the broader themes
[23:14] um that I came up with for suggestions
[23:16] for improvement. The main one was the
[23:19] bathrooms, which I'll go into in the
[23:20] next few slides, and then parks in
[23:22] general, some inclusion kind of related
[23:24] things, various parks, amenities,
[23:27] activities, dogs and dog parks, park
[23:29] rules, uh the website, and in opposition
[23:32] to inclusion, exclusion.
[23:34] So, next slide.
[23:37] So, bathrooms,
[23:39] uh, mainly the first one, improved
[23:41] maintenance and cleanliness of
[23:42] bathrooms. I agree with that one. I'm
[23:44] seeing some nastiness.
[23:46] Um, bathrooms open year round. I thought
[23:48] that they were, but maybe some of them
[23:51] are not or they misunderstood.
[23:52] >> Yeah, some dep if if we get below
[23:55] freezing, we may shut some of them down.
[23:58] >> U, but otherwise they're most all of
[24:00] them are open year round. Right, Brian?
[24:03] >> Right. It's just the hour.
[24:04] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[24:05] >> Yeah. And I don't know if this was like
[24:07] a a countywide poll or more of a city
[24:10] poll.
[24:10] >> I was trying to focus it on the city,
[24:12] but some people may have misunderstood
[24:13] >> because within the county they close
[24:15] their restaurants in the city. We try
[24:17] not to. So unless it's weather
[24:22] the county closes their restrooms like
[24:24] for this
[24:26] >> I know a lot of places that do.
[24:28] >> Yeah. Okay.
[24:29] >> They winterize their restrooms.
[24:31] >> Okay. I understand.
[24:34] Well, then it's uh providing bathrooms
[24:36] of parks, which I think there might be a
[24:37] few that don't have some. And then
[24:39] providing more stalls. I agree with that
[24:41] one, especially women's bathrooms.
[24:44] And then uh parks in general, having
[24:46] more parks and open spaces. Uh improved
[24:48] maintenance and cleanliness of parks.
[24:50] The dog food is on another one. Um more
[24:53] nature, wilderness trails, improved
[24:55] security at parks, longer hours. I think
[24:58] that's mainly outside of summertime. Um,
[25:01] and then open a new disc golf course,
[25:03] which that's not news. You heard that
[25:05] from the disc golf people. Um, and then
[25:07] as for inclusion, more access for those
[25:10] with disabilities, um, like with
[25:12] wheelchairs and that kind of thing.
[25:14] Allowing homeless into the park,
[25:16] inclusive of new people. I'm not sure
[25:18] exactly what they meant by that one, but
[25:20] I include it anyway. And then improved
[25:21] sidewalks. There are a few parts that
[25:24] need that a lot. All right, next slide.
[25:29] And then for amenities, so some of the
[25:31] sub themes that I had were shelter and
[25:33] resting spots, boards, water fountains,
[25:36] sanitation, and then just some other. So
[25:38] as for shelter and resting spots, having
[25:40] more tables, benches, and chairs, as
[25:42] well as covered in seating, shaded
[25:44] seating areas, which I have to agree
[25:46] with that, there's not enough places to
[25:47] sit and if there are, it's bright out in
[25:49] the sun.
[25:51] And then as for sports, a lot of them
[25:53] were about basketball. So
[25:54] >> yeah. No, I like that. That's great.
[25:56] >> People want to play basketball. So,
[25:58] providing basketballs, full court
[26:00] basketball courts, and a three-point
[26:02] line. Um, outdoor fitness stations.
[26:05] There's support for the little fitness
[26:07] station.
[26:09] >> One person said, "Do not remove the
[26:10] volleyball pip." They wanted that one.
[26:13] >> Then asked for water fountains,
[26:15] providing water fountains and then water
[26:16] bottle refill stations. I agree with
[26:19] that, too. I always carry my water
[26:21] bottle.
[26:22] Then sanitation.
[26:25] Have a sanitation station. I'm not sure.
[26:28] I tried looking that up and I don't know
[26:29] what that means.
[26:30] >> Yeah,
[26:31] >> maybe somebody does. But
[26:32] >> yeah, so it's basically just um so they
[26:34] have them at like special events and
[26:36] they're typically modular
[26:38] >> and it's essentially um hand washing
[26:42] station.
[26:42] >> Yeah,
[26:45] >> I think um that kind of goes along with
[26:46] the bathroom part, too.
[26:49] >> And then less trash. And then providing
[26:51] trash bins, which I think if you provide
[26:53] more trash bins, you'll get less trash.
[26:56] And then a smoking area, which I
[26:58] disagree with. I don't think it's okay.
[27:01] Nobody should.
[27:04] >> Yeah, there's not a city.
[27:05] >> Yeah.
[27:06] >> And, uh, the last few ones for the
[27:08] amenities part is providing barbecue
[27:10] grills, more toddler friendly areas or
[27:13] activities, um, and then a place to walk
[27:15] by.
[27:17] Cool.
[27:17] >> So, just a question like on suggestions
[27:19] for improvements, those are basically
[27:21] the number and you didn't really give
[27:23] them a checklist. It was just verbal.
[27:26] >> Yeah, they just wrote it down.
[27:27] >> Okay. So, two people said barbecue
[27:30] guards. Okay. Yeah. As opposed to a
[27:32] checklist. Okay.
[27:33] >> I just made it a little bit easier for
[27:35] you.
[27:35] >> Yep. That's for sure.
[27:38] >> Um then some other ones for activities
[27:41] just broadly more activities. No other
[27:43] explanation than that. More activities
[27:46] for children outside of school, more
[27:48] outdoor activities and sports. Uh
[27:50] community activities and then activities
[27:52] for adults. So some of those are very
[27:54] broad. Do what you want. And then we go
[27:57] into the dogs and the dog park. So
[27:59] cleaning up the dog poop, providing
[28:01] doggy bags. So I think you provide the
[28:03] doggy bags. That will encourage people
[28:05] to clean up the poop more. Uh keeping
[28:07] dogs on leashes for sure. Then we go to
[28:10] the dog carts. Somebody wanted more um
[28:13] enrichment at the dog carts like logs to
[28:16] climb on, things like that.
[28:19] um generally having more dog parks,
[28:21] providing a fence, dog park. Some of
[28:23] these could be like an indication that
[28:26] we just need more advertising on park um
[28:28] amenities.
[28:31] So, next slide and then this is the last
[28:33] one. So, somebody wanted to see like the
[28:36] dos and the don'ts, like what you can
[28:37] do, what you shouldn't do with the
[28:39] parks. Uh someone else wanted the parks
[28:42] website to be kept updated. And then the
[28:44] last one, um, removing homeless or
[28:46] squatters from parking lots. So, I don't
[28:49] know which specific one they were
[28:51] thinking of, but that was a suggestion
[28:52] somebody had. So, that's, uh, see my
[28:57] little slideshow.
[28:59] >> Thanks for doing that.
[29:02] >> Yeah.
[29:06] Can you go back
[29:09] with
[29:11] that? I forget
[29:14] what you're looking for. It was around.
[29:17] So
[29:20] >> there was a
[29:23] movie.
[29:25] >> No, I I'll get I'll get around to it
[29:28] again. Sorry. Okay.
[29:35] See what it was, Joe, that you wanted to
[29:37] comment.
[29:38] >> Oh, I know what it was. So, where was
[29:40] the disc golf? Where was the disc golf?
[29:44] Just have a moment of clarity.
[29:46] >> More disc golf courses.
[29:47] >> We could have a disc golf.
[29:51] >> That would be a nice It would be a nice
[29:53] joint use.
[29:55] >> You don't think one would interfere with
[29:57] the other? Half of the disc golfers out
[30:00] there have their dogs out there anyway.
[30:01] You know why? Why not?
[30:03] >> You just imagine the dogs grabbing
[30:05] somebody else's disc and running off of
[30:07] it.
[30:07] >> Well, mine would. Mine wouldn't. And
[30:09] mine would be the worst worst behavior.
[30:14] So,
[30:14] >> well, aren't there dogs that go for
[30:16] discs all the time? It depends on Yeah.
[30:19] it depends on what the owner does
[30:22] with this golf
[30:25] comments or suggestions or replies.
[30:28] Thanks, Alex.
[30:29] >> Thank you, Alex.
[30:30] >> Appreciate you going and doing that.
[30:32] >> Yeah, because I think it does kind of it
[30:34] does hit on on that that concern and
[30:37] council saw another survey recently
[30:40] where I think some of the concern is the
[30:42] access to our general surveys and not
[30:44] everybody can access them. So doing
[30:47] things like that are extremely helpful
[30:48] to get
[30:50] >> some you never know what you're gonna
[30:51] get from.
[30:52] >> Um but yeah, I think a lot of it was
[30:54] actually in line with some of the other
[30:56] information that we found out. So
[30:59] >> these were people that were not able to
[31:02] participate in any of the surveys or
[31:05] just
[31:06] >> just a different venue.
[31:07] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[31:09] >> Yeah. No idea if there's a circle.
[31:12] >> So I think we came.
[31:16] >> Yeah.
[31:16] >> Are they?
[31:17] >> Yeah. I actually volunteered with the
[31:21] » That's nice to hear.
[31:25] >> It looks really good.
[31:26] >> Oh, good.
[31:27] >> All right.
[31:29] >> You ready to move on to the Kitsapat
[31:31] Peninsula staff dog park tour?
[31:35] >> Ryan and Tim. So, uh, Josh should be
[31:39] joining us any moment and so I'll kind
[31:42] of stop when he gets here and then we
[31:44] can we can proceed along.
[31:46] >> So, uh, in preparation for our dog park
[31:50] grant that we received and development
[31:52] of the dog park at Stephson Canyon, we
[31:55] decided that we would go on a tour. So,
[31:58] we picked two a day, a morning, two
[32:01] separate weeks um in the past month um
[32:04] and hit six different dog parks in
[32:07] Kitapat Peninsula. Um so,
[32:10] very fun. Uh probably one of the most
[32:12] common comments we got and looks was,
[32:14] "Why don't you guys have a dog with
[32:16] you?"
[32:16] >> Yeah.
[32:21] » Four people walk in. One's got a
[32:23] clipboard.
[32:24] >> Rest of us just look like thugs. And
[32:28] We have no dog.
[32:29] >> Yeah.
[32:30] >> So,
[32:31] >> we got there.
[32:32] >> We became a target quickly.
[32:35] >> Uh but no, it was it was good. So, all
[32:37] I'm going to run through all six of
[32:39] them. Um we kind of Colette kind of laid
[32:42] out and Colette was sorry she's not
[32:43] here. She's up in Alaska um on vacation
[32:46] back home. So, um she'll be back with us
[32:49] later this week. Yeah. So, she kind of
[32:51] provided me uh just some talking points
[32:53] as well um that are very similar for
[32:56] each of the dog parks. I'll just kind of
[32:58] walk through them uh as we have each
[33:00] slide. So, Rotary Bark Park in Gig
[33:02] Harbor. Has anybody been to that?
[33:04] >> No.
[33:05] >> It was probably one of our favorite
[33:06] ones. Um the off leash area is 15 acres
[33:10] in size and it's a total of 97 acres.
[33:14] Um, and it's part of the U Penet park
[33:19] district.
[33:20] >> That's right.
[33:22] >> Penet
[33:24] district out there.
[33:26] >> Yeah.
[33:28] >> Of course.
[33:30] >> Okay. Well,
[33:31] >> so one thing about this park is the
[33:35] access to the dog park from the parking
[33:37] lot. It's about a quarter of a mile from
[33:39] the trail head, so it was quite a
[33:40] distance for us to to get out there.
[33:42] Yeah.
[33:43] >> Um, so you you park next to a fire
[33:46] station and then you walk your way out
[33:48] to where where the dog park is actually
[33:51] at. Uh, it's 5 foot galvanized wire mesh
[33:55] fencing, uh, double gated bolin entry.
[33:58] Everything we saw if everybody familiar
[34:01] with what a double gated bullpin entry
[34:03] is. So essentially, you'd walk in the
[34:05] first gate, unleash, lock the gate or
[34:08] shut the gate, un unhook your dog, and
[34:11] then let him into the main part, and
[34:12] then shut that secondary gate. Just kind
[34:15] of a transition area. Um,
[34:19] >> yeah. So, in this park, there's over a
[34:22] mile of fenced off leash trails, um, and
[34:25] an open meadow area. So on the bottom
[34:28] right corner, you can kind of see that
[34:30] open meadow space, but most of the off
[34:33] leash area was actually trail systems.
[34:35] And that that's something we did find
[34:37] that we hadn't really thought about
[34:39] >> for for Stephenson Canyon is looking at
[34:42] some of those upper trails that we have
[34:44] and seeing what we could do to
[34:46] incorporate that into the dog park just
[34:48] to kind of create a little bit of
[34:49] different Yeah. Just to create a little
[34:52] bit of different scenery. And they have
[34:54] the opportunity for that stuff.
[34:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sure could. There
[34:58] are natural trails all the way through
[35:00] there. Sure. So, you know,
[35:02] >> uh, so water and restrooms. So, they
[35:05] have portable restrooms at the very at
[35:07] the parking lot. So, a quarter mile from
[35:10] where you you end up going into the dog
[35:12] park at. Um, and there's a water spot at
[35:15] that same area at the trail head. Um and
[35:19] but what they do require is for
[35:23] individuals to carry the water um jugs
[35:27] to the dog park.
[35:28] >> Yeah.
[35:29] >> And so you kind of see on the bottom uh
[35:32] left hand or upper right hand corner is where the filling station is and then
[35:37] people transport them and then obviously
[35:39] when they leave they'll put them back
[35:40] over here, fill them up and then they're
[35:43] ready for somebody else. So that
[35:45] >> Yeah. So that's Yeah. And that's nice.
[35:47] That's something that, you know, I
[35:49] hadn't seen and and we it is common in
[35:52] some of the other areas that we did go
[35:54] and look at.
[35:55] >> So, they do have a shade structure as
[35:57] you can see there uh kiosk with
[36:00] information
[36:01] um andformational signage rules. Uh
[36:04] there's no separate small dog area at
[36:06] this park and I think maybe because it
[36:08] has trailed areas, it's kind of a
[36:10] natural separation as well. Uh there's
[36:13] no agility area.
[36:15] um observations that we we came up with.
[36:18] Um it was a wellused park site. We were
[36:20] here probably about 10 o'clock on a when
[36:23] Tuesday Wednesday morning. Uh so middle
[36:26] of the week. Uh still a good amount of
[36:28] people there. Uh users seem to value the
[36:31] combination of the wooded trails and
[36:33] open areas. Uh, so there were definitely
[36:35] different gathering spots or people that
[36:37] we noticed would walk the trail system
[36:40] and then end up in the in the play
[36:42] essentially play area for the dogs. So
[36:45] >> So
[36:47] how did you how did you like the fence?
[36:52] » I liked it a lot. It's one of the better
[36:54] princess that we came across. uh really
[36:56] >> comparatively there'll be another slide
[36:58] in there that they have a different
[36:59] option that
[37:03] >> that we experienced.
[37:04] >> Yeah. What we did find was that the
[37:06] bullpin entry areas tend to be a
[37:09] different type of fence.
[37:10] >> Oh, of course.
[37:11] >> But then obviously this type of fencing
[37:14] that we see here is quite a bit of cost
[37:16] savings. Well, and what it also does is
[37:19] it it provides a barrier for dogs as
[37:22] they're moving along. So, they just
[37:24] don't go that way.
[37:25] >> So, the whole property
[37:27] >> with that
[37:28] >> the whole uh the whole 15 acres of the
[37:31] dog park is
[37:32] >> Yeah. It's big area.
[37:34] >> And what we also found too is that
[37:36] within that uh letting the natural
[37:39] vegetation on the outside of that grow
[37:41] up.
[37:42] >> Yes.
[37:42] >> They they provided that visual barrier
[37:44] for the dogs too. So it's almost I know
[37:47] it's seamless that they trail.
[37:52] » Yeah. So that's Rotary Bark Park.
[37:54] >> How long has it been there?
[37:56] >> Do you know?
[37:58] >> No, I I don't know.
[37:59] >> I don't know either.
[38:00] >> Yeah.
[38:02] Maybe if we can zoom in on the
[38:04] sign. Yeah. We could probably start.
[38:06] >> Yeah. I'm not sure how long it's been
[38:08] there.
[38:09] >> Um Yeah. So Josh, are you ready?
[38:15] I've never been this ready in my life.
[38:19] >> Have you ever followed a dog park
[38:21] conversation?
[38:25] » I'll be ready for you.
[38:26] >> We keep it up for you.
[38:32] » Pull up.
[38:33] >> Yeah. Wherever.
[38:34] >> Let me go back to your side.
[38:38] >> Nice to see some familiar faces.
[38:41] >> Welcome to the parks and wreck
[38:43] commission. Oh, cool.
[38:44] >> Friends meeting.
[38:45] >> I'm glad to be here.
[38:47] >> Yeah. Thank you for what you do first
[38:49] and foremost. As many of you know, I've
[38:52] lived in Breton a long time uh for 20
[38:54] years now and um you know uh the parks
[38:58] commission were as a concept reporter
[39:01] always some of my favorite meetings to
[39:02] cover. I just think I love parks and I
[39:05] love the work that you do and and why
[39:07] you do it. Um so it's really important
[39:09] to me just as a resident of Bremer.
[39:11] >> Thank you. Um, so yeah, you can see
[39:15] here, uh, I don't know if any of you
[39:16] have attended our previous events.
[39:18] Bridging Breton was something that I
[39:20] started, uh, in 2018.
[39:24] Was kind of a cool coinciding with the city's 100th anniversary centennial
[39:28] of the Manette annexation. Literally was
[39:32] cool thing to dig into. I went through
[39:34] the entire archive of the Breton news
[39:36] which was the paper of that time paper
[39:38] record and um just fascinating why the
[39:41] Manette needed water and and there was a
[39:43] ferry but um called the pioneer that ran
[39:46] between Manette and Breton East and
[39:48] Breton you know Heron
[39:50] >> Manette Peninsula and downtown and the
[39:52] cars drove off at sometimes and that was
[39:55] not a good thing for obvious reasons.
[39:57] Yeah. So, um they incorporated and 12
[40:00] years later a bridge was built, the
[40:01] first bridge and then in 1958 a second
[40:04] bridge went uh at the Port Washington
[40:06] Narrows uh otherwise we know as the
[40:08] Warren Avenue Bridge
[40:10] >> were they both state bridges at that
[40:13] time when they first went in.
[40:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah,
[40:16] >> the Manette Bridge may not have been
[40:18] Manette Bridge was kind of a the history
[40:20] around it was kind of cool because it's
[40:21] like uh it uh there was a really active
[40:24] club in that they may have heard of
[40:26] called uh in in Manette um the East
[40:28] Birmingham and movement club and they
[40:30] actually organized a lot of it and they
[40:32] sold bonds for the bridge until the
[40:34] state paid it off. So people actually
[40:36] paid for bonds. It was a quarter to get
[40:38] across the original bridge. A quarter,
[40:41] which was a lot of money at the time in
[40:43] 1930. You know, a quarter was a lot of
[40:45] money, but it's because the ferry
[40:47] compared to the ferry. It was this was
[40:49] actually ideal. People could get back
[40:51] and forth and and the state paid it off.
[40:54] But then when it the state built the
[40:57] bridge in 58, they toled the bridge
[41:00] again. Some of you might notice that
[41:01] they actually put tolls back on Limonet
[41:03] Bridge for a few years while to make
[41:06] sure people couldn't cheat the toll.
[41:08] >> Yeah, that's kind of cool. But
[41:09] >> yeah, The the cool thing about um
[41:12] Bridging Grimmerson and why I started
[41:14] this was because those bridges of course
[41:16] were ser, you know, they were built for
[41:18] cars, but they serendipitously created a
[41:21] bridge loop that has parks. Our our
[41:25] flagship park of Breton, the Evergreen
[41:27] Rotary Park. others on this side,
[41:29] Sheridan, where we're sitting right here, East Park, uh the Whitey
[41:33] Dong viewscape in Manette. And of
[41:36] course, when the state built the new
[41:37] bridge, um a former council member, Adam
[41:39] Brockus, um helped to advocate for
[41:42] having a proper divider between the
[41:44] traffic and it created really a
[41:45] prominade. And in my mind, that was like
[41:48] an opening of well, why don't we have
[41:49] this on the other bridge, too? And why
[41:51] don't we have 10 foot sidewalks all the
[41:53] way between them because so many people
[41:55] use this this great this great pathway.
[41:58] And um fast forward to uh I think it was
[42:00] senator then senator Emily Randall at
[42:02] the state level got an appropriation in
[42:05] the budget and next year I think
[42:07] construction hopefully will begin on
[42:10] expanding the Warren Avenue bridge to a
[42:12] much wider pedestrian path. So, there
[42:15] will still be work to do, but this is
[42:17] the vision is to just create an active
[42:21] recreation site, if you will, um of a of
[42:24] a three-mile walking loop that can be
[42:27] accessed by as many people and all walks
[42:29] of life at all accessibility levels
[42:32] possible, as well lit. Um I just I
[42:35] believe that um cities have have this
[42:37] and bridging Breton is kind of my love
[42:40] letter to this vision and that I would
[42:42] love to I hope that we can achieve um
[42:45] maybe in the not too distant future. Um
[42:48] and so we have three big events and we
[42:50] would love to have anyone from the parks
[42:52] commission who would like to volunteer.
[42:54] Um we have I will send you a website. Um
[42:58] there are t-shirts involved just if that
[43:00] grease you know we're hoping to have
[43:02] t-shirts for this. So, all the
[43:04] volunteers will will get a t-shirt. Um,
[43:07] and the the big event um throughout the
[43:10] day, you can see there's three different
[43:11] events. There's a Roxy a theater event
[43:13] that I'd love to have have you go to,
[43:14] but I'll focus just on in interest of
[43:17] time on the on the two events that
[43:18] really encompass the the bridge loop.
[43:21] The first is the kids passport
[43:23] adventure. So, each kid will be equipped
[43:25] with a map. Uh and it will go to around
[43:29] 10 different sites just between
[43:32] Evergreen Rotary Park and Whitey Don
[43:34] Viewcape
[43:36] across the MAT bridge and along the way
[43:39] there will be different stations and
[43:42] there will be historic photos and there
[43:44] will be a kind of a dosent who will talk
[43:46] through sometimes very briefly for kids
[43:48] who are just interested in filling out
[43:49] their maps but for other people who are
[43:51] interested in information. Pioneer Ferry
[43:53] that used to go between Manette and
[43:55] Bremerson is one of one of our stations.
[43:58] um for instance that but uh hidden
[44:00] artifacts that you would not otherwise
[44:02] know about in the history of Remington
[44:05] um and that will come alive for people
[44:07] for kids and adults alike and then
[44:10] they'll make their way back across and
[44:12] they can redeem their map their finished
[44:14] map for a cookie at Evergreen Pizza as
[44:16] well as a a duck from um the Turner Joy
[44:20] Museum and it's good for the USS Turner
[44:23] Joy Museum ship to pass as one for them
[44:25] and a guardian or parent of that they
[44:28] continue. So, it's it's really fun uh
[44:31] really special event. I will also do a
[44:33] narrated tour of the entire bridge loop
[44:35] and we have speakers along the route all
[44:37] the way from uh upper ro of vista park
[44:41] um another another sort of I think
[44:44] diamond in the rough you know yes it's
[44:46] along avenue I know but there's some
[44:49] really interesting history there and
[44:51] certainly lower road is has has some
[44:53] great great history um we'll have we'll
[44:55] have people all along al along the
[44:57] entire route um as we narrate and move
[45:00] along and we always need volunteers to
[45:01] make sure people are are safe. Um these
[45:04] are city streets that we're we're
[45:05] traversing. So anybody that would like
[45:08] to go with us over at the crosswalk
[45:10] locations that that those will be our
[45:12] primary areas where we'll meet some
[45:14] volunteers if you would uh be so
[45:16] inclined from around 11:00 a.m. to 3
[45:18] p.m. is kind of our sweet spot for for
[45:20] volunteer efforts. And as I said, we
[45:22] have a a website to register folks um
[45:25] who want to be volunteers and get
[45:27] t-shirts and be an official part of
[45:30] that. And I'm happy to answer any
[45:32] questions that you have.
[45:38] I partly invited Josh because of our
[45:41] discussions in the last few months of
[45:43] potentially looking at some historical
[45:45] tag tours within our park system, but
[45:48] thought this would be a great way to
[45:50] help out Josh and kind of see how he
[45:53] manages it and then we could look at it
[45:55] as as kind of a good guiding guiding
[45:59] document for us to be able to to do some
[46:02] um some walks within our park system.
[46:07] That' be great.
[46:08] >> Well, and it would be it would be great
[46:11] to have a a joint venture. It would be
[46:13] nice to support it over
[46:16] that would be a nice part for sure.
[46:20] >> Yeah.
[46:20] >> Josh, the website that I see on there,
[46:22] that's where we can sign up.
[46:23] >> Yep.
[46:25] I will send an email to Tim who can
[46:27] email it to you that has the volunteer
[46:30] specific volunteer sheet. Um I some
[46:32] suggestion that you know that it would
[46:34] be kind of cool to have parks commission
[46:36] you know the bridge is going to be
[46:38] really central the manette bridge will
[46:40] have four history stations so in in in
[46:45] the al coes so there's four al coes on
[46:47] the bridge and there will be a station
[46:48] at each one but like the crossing um uh
[46:51] on Washington Avenue at the bridge it's
[46:54] a busy crossing it'd be great to have a
[46:56] volunteer or two there and and then on
[46:58] the other side of the bridge between the
[47:01] roundabout. Those would be two locations
[47:03] that um that would be great to have
[47:06] volunteers from at the parks. Just a
[47:08] suggestion, but there are plenty of
[47:09] other spots, too.
[47:12] >> How was the screen for?
[47:14] >> Well, uh the flyer that you see there,
[47:16] we're hosting those around town. Um
[47:18] that's that's the main way. Um and then,
[47:21] uh social media. We are, we obviously
[47:23] have a website now, bridging
[47:24] verbton.com, and we're also on Facebook.
[47:27] Uh, trying to um, yeah, Richie Gmerson
[47:30] has a page on Facebook. I've done some
[47:33] videos promoting it. Um, and we have an
[47:35] Instagram that helps.
[47:37] >> Is this on the city website, too,
[47:41] >> probably isn't, but easily could be.
[47:44] It's a great suggestion.
[47:45] >> That would be great. I don't Yeah, I
[47:47] just don't see the city logos down
[47:48] there. I'm hoping we'll
[47:50] >> the city can get behind.
[47:51] >> We have not provided funding to support
[47:54] it.
[47:56] >> One one thing um about the city. So the
[47:58] mayor will will speak um typically has
[48:02] um through all of the events and
[48:04] carnations.
[48:04] >> He walks too.
[48:05] >> Yeah. And he does. Yeah. Yeah. I think
[48:06] he's joining us on
[48:08] >> almost fall if not all walks. Yeah.
[48:11] >> But been great to have him there. There
[48:13] was one other thing I was going to say
[48:15] about that but can't remember. Yeah. So
[48:18] yeah, we certainly have lot lots of
[48:20] support from the city which has been
[48:22] great.
[48:23] >> If I go to that website and I can share
[48:26] a link I mean I can copy and share it
[48:28] like Forest Ridge Park we have our
[48:30] monthly work party. I could share it on
[48:32] that page.
[48:33] >> You bet. Okay.
[48:34] >> Yeah, you bet. You can absolutely share
[48:35] it. Um we also everybody that goes to
[48:37] this event you can already get copies of
[48:39] this but there is a bridge to rich trail
[48:41] walking map that was made leadership kit
[48:44] class a few years ago made really nice
[48:46] one. I curated the different bits of
[48:48] history that's that are throughout.
[48:50] You'll see the the motif of that star
[48:52] the starfish there or the sea star
[48:56] >> um which you can still find on on street
[48:58] there.
[48:59] >> Um but also within that map and of
[49:01] course we'll we'll keep that um and
[49:03] it'll probably be a part of a t-shirt
[49:05] too um that's coming out. So yeah um so
[49:09] that is on the city's website I believe.
[49:11] I think so.
[49:13] >> I feel like there's multiple electrical
[49:15] boxes that have the rack with the
[49:17] >> with the route on it, too.
[49:19] >> That's right. Yeah. I I loved that. Um a
[49:21] few years ago when that I think it was
[49:22] the public works department that
[49:24] actually put the funding, but of course,
[49:25] thanks to the arts commission for for
[49:27] that beautifying our our electrical
[49:30] boxes. Yeah, there's one at the corner
[49:32] of 11th and Pacific and then there's one
[49:35] on this side by the heart wall or the
[49:37] intersection of state that
[49:40] >> and you said the main volunteer hours
[49:42] would be like 11 to three. Do you have
[49:44] to be there that whole time?
[49:45] >> No. Um frankly um if you wanted to split
[49:48] it um or I would say 11 to 1 is really
[49:52] our high traffic time. So if you if you
[49:54] had a little time during the day um that
[49:56] would be the best time for us to ask.
[49:59] And for on the bridge in the alope, are
[50:00] we going to have like canopies or
[50:02] something for shade?
[50:03] >> We are. That is still uh the history
[50:06] museum and the Turner Joy Museum.
[50:08] Turnjoy has one of them and the history
[50:10] museum has three of the stations on the
[50:12] bridge and they are planning some kind
[50:14] of a canopy. We don't know how big we
[50:16] can really make it though because
[50:19] it's a limited sidewalk but yeah the
[50:21] hope we will have some kind of shape for
[50:23] the for the volunteers that
[50:26] >> means you're anticipating good weather.
[50:29] >> It means we're the sun to block the sun.
[50:33] >> Block the sun. Exactly.
[50:36] >> I wish it was raining. Well,
[50:39] >> we need the right
[50:41] question.
[50:44] >> Questions.
[50:44] >> Did you want to touch on the six
[50:46] o'clock? Because I think it's it's a it
[50:48] sounds really cool.
[50:49] >> It does.
[50:50] >> Yeah. I'm really I'm really excited
[50:51] about it. So, kind of handpicked um
[50:54] about seven different speakers. Um and
[50:58] uh I something that I think uh gets
[51:01] overlooked, maybe not overlooked in
[51:02] Bremerson, but that many of us are from
[51:05] here, but there are a lot of people who
[51:06] come to find Bremer. The Navy of course
[51:08] is a prominent presence always here and and we come here and we adapt to
[51:15] Breton and we fall in love with Breton
[51:17] and that's certainly my story and I know
[51:19] many people share that story. So I we're
[51:22] curating a kind of a a unique story
[51:25] event where people will share either
[51:28] stories from history where people came
[51:30] to Breton. Um there's a there's a great
[51:33] story of a of a woman who um her husband
[51:36] died on a fishing vessel. She was from
[51:38] Norway. She came and she was the first
[51:41] uh employee to retire from a US naval
[51:44] shipyard right here in Puget Sound. and
[51:46] she worked in the sail off which of
[51:47] course the sail off at the future sound
[51:50] naval shipyard began because we were in
[51:52] the age of sale with like literally navy
[51:55] ships had sales on them and of course
[51:57] that's later they handle textiles and
[52:00] things like that for nuclear navy
[52:01] submarines and and aircraft carriers but
[52:03] this woman's story is one of adaptation
[52:06] she came to Breton she lived downtown
[52:08] and she became part of the fabric of the
[52:10] community we'll have we'll we'll have
[52:11] some personal stories that people will
[52:13] tell as well as just kind
[52:15] general people like Quincy Jones and and
[52:18] how they came here and how Breton
[52:20] changed them. And my hope is we'll tell
[52:22] a few stories. There may or may not be
[52:24] some trivia. I do like doing some trivia
[52:26] for for people. And um it'll be kind of
[52:29] a little bit of a variety show. Um there
[52:32] will be Evergreen Pizza is going to sell
[52:33] pizza outside and of course you can get
[52:35] a drink um at uh at the at the Ross
[52:38] Theater. Um but the idea is it's
[52:41] entertaining. you'll learn some
[52:43] interesting facts but that we all leave
[52:45] kind of grounded in hey you know you
[52:47] learn something about history but you're
[52:49] the connection that we all share to this
[52:51] place
[52:52] >> and strengthening that connection
[52:53] because Virginia Breton is all about the
[52:55] connection geographically this will be
[52:57] more of like our our connection that we
[52:59] all experience by as you know lived here
[53:03] and and
[53:06] we and it's complete all of this by the
[53:08] way is completely free it's made
[53:09] possible by our very generous service
[53:12] clubs uh the East Breton Rotary,
[53:14] downtown Rotary, and the Breton Central
[53:16] Lines. That's that's who's uh uh funding
[53:19] this. I should also just briefly mention
[53:21] that we um do help with paint supplies
[53:25] for the uh Manette Art Wall, the the YA
[53:28] graffiti invitational will be going on.
[53:30] And so, and there will be cans of paint
[53:32] for people who walk the bridge loop to
[53:34] be able to go up and paint something
[53:36] themselves and hear from the artists.
[53:37] And the artists are doing a big
[53:39] collective mural as they've done every
[53:41] year for this event as well. So it's
[53:42] another kind of cool I I sort of
[53:44] envision that as many spaces as we can
[53:47] activate you know on the bridge loop as
[53:50] possible you know in future years I hope
[53:52] to grow it even further and this year um
[53:56] that we are have partnered with Sunny
[53:58] Saunders who puts on Blackberry Festival
[54:00] and the the Bremer Bridge Blast um she
[54:05] has really helped me to grow and she's
[54:07] handling the logistics and making sure
[54:09] this year we're going to have
[54:09] portaotties for the first time a lot a
[54:12] lot of People have said, you know, this
[54:13] is a long walk. You, you know, it's good
[54:15] to be be able to have a bathroom along
[54:18] the way. So, um, yeah, that's, um, it's
[54:21] helped me to be able to focus on content
[54:23] and, um, and putting on, uh, the event
[54:26] making a specialist.
[54:30] » Sounds like a great time,
[54:32] >> doesn't it, though?
[54:33] >> Yeah, I'm really jazzed. But yeah, thank
[54:36] you for just listening and and being
[54:38] willing to support in any way that you
[54:40] want to. So,
[54:42] Thanks, Josh. Great.
[54:43] >> Thank you.
[54:44] >> I appreciate you coming down. Yeah.
[54:47] Thanks everybody.
[54:55] » Right.
[54:56] >> The dog part. Okay.
[54:58] >> Yes.
[55:01] >> Now on to Tubby.
[55:03] >> Tubby's Trail. Has anybody been to
[55:05] Tubby's Trail?
[55:07] >> Out in the harbor, man.
[55:08] >> It's out in the Hobbit.
[55:10] >> I know it. right right off the highway
[55:12] right near the bridge.
[55:16] >> Um this was a another good this one
[55:19] definitely shows you uh the type of
[55:22] fencing they utilized here. Um probably
[55:25] some of the most expensive fencing but
[55:28] um
[55:29] it's it's well utilized. It's a really
[55:31] nice facility. Uh this is a 1.2 acre off
[55:35] leash area uh within an 8 and a half
[55:37] acre park.
[55:40] um outside of the um initial entry area.
[55:46] Uh it's a three-foot vinyl coated chain
[55:48] link fencing. Uh doublegated bolt pin
[55:51] entry. Again, uh natural ground surface
[55:54] like many of the others. Um there's no
[55:57] dedicated walking trail within this soft
[55:59] leash area. Uh so just really um
[56:02] conversation areas and um areas for dogs
[56:06] to roam. Uh there's water available from
[56:09] a higher fire hydrant which you can see
[56:12] in the center there
[56:14] um within the offish area and then there
[56:17] is a portable restroom on the exterior
[56:19] that is provided. It does have a shade
[56:22] structure which is in that bottom right
[56:24] hand corner and there is a separate
[56:27] small dog area. So as you enter in small
[56:30] dog area was to the right, large dog
[56:32] area to the left or to the left and then
[56:35] the large dog area to the right.
[56:38] Uh let's see. No agility or kind of play
[56:42] equipment there at all. Um area
[56:45] functions as a catchment for excess
[56:49] water. Um so you can kind of see in this
[56:51] bottom left corner.
[56:53] >> Yeah, that's where um it actually was
[56:55] dry. Uh but you can definitely tell when water comes in that's that's really
[57:01] that center area becomes full with
[57:03] water. Um and we can become very muddy.
[57:06] Yeah, it's between the whole it's within
[57:08] the whole structure.
[57:10] >> Yeah. And that's okay.
[57:11] >> Yeah.
[57:13] >> Let's see. Um things we noticed. Uh it's
[57:18] compact. Um functional dog park with
[57:21] basic amenities, separate areas for
[57:23] different dog sizes. Uh the history of
[57:26] this park since seems like nobody's
[57:28] been. Tubby was a black cocker spaniel
[57:31] and was the only fatality associated to
[57:34] the 1942's
[57:36] bridge collapse.
[57:37] >> Really?
[57:42] » Yeah.
[57:44] >> Um you can also see kind of in the upper
[57:46] right um we kind of briefly talked about
[57:50] accessibility. Um that's one of our
[57:52] overall concerns with all these other um
[57:56] even like this one. It did have a conc
[57:59] or an asphalt slab where there was
[58:01] accessible parking, but beyond that,
[58:04] nothing was accessible. The restroom
[58:06] facility adjacent to the accessible
[58:08] parking stall isn't even accessible.
[58:11] >> Um, just thought that that was really
[58:13] interesting throughout all of these. And
[58:15] again, with the natural surface in
[58:17] between, it would be very difficult to
[58:19] roll a wheelchair around. Um, so that's
[58:22] something that we definitely want to
[58:24] take advantage of with our park is is
[58:27] designing it so we can ensure that
[58:29] there's some accessibility not only on
[58:31] the exterior but on the interior of the dog park.
[58:35] >> And I think that checks a couple of the
[58:37] boxes that were within your slides as
[58:40] well.
[58:40] >> Yeah. So, if I might uh suggest that you
[58:45] look at perhaps a little higher of a of
[58:48] a fence, three feet
[58:52] I've had dogs that
[58:54] without Yeah. You know, without
[58:56] >> Well, they kind of preface this.
[58:57] >> So, four, you know, even four feet, you
[58:59] know, it was better than
[59:01] >> And that was all part of these swaps.
[59:04] It's like taking some of the good things
[59:06] that other parts have done and some of
[59:08] the things that we think that we can
[59:09] improve on before we start to plan out
[59:12] ours. And so
[59:13] >> it's just more of an acknowledgement of
[59:15] what we saw and what we can learn from
[59:18] it.
[59:19] >> Yeah. And even looking at, you know,
[59:21] cost.
[59:22] >> Um maybe three to four foot is okay for
[59:26] a small dog area, but definitely not for
[59:28] a big dog area. So maybe you look at two
[59:31] different heights of fencing. uh just to
[59:34] make your your dollar stretch a little
[59:35] bit further.
[59:37] >> That fence would be expensive.
[59:39] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[59:40] >> Yep. Absolutely.
[59:44] All right. Ready to move on to the next
[59:47] one?
[59:48] >> Okay. Now, we're moving to Bandex Dog
[59:50] Park, which is in Port Orchard.
[59:54] Uh Bandix is a 30 acre park uh in a
[59:58] natural setting. Uh so they have a 6
[1:00:01] foot high uh chain link fence which is
[1:00:05] only along the parking area. Um the off
[1:00:09] leash area is not fully enclosed. Um and
[1:00:12] it does have a double gate of bullpin
[1:00:14] entry and Brian can attest to this
[1:00:17] reason why the the fencing is only in
[1:00:20] this area is because they use the
[1:00:22] natural environment as the barrier
[1:00:24] throughout the rest of the park.
[1:00:27] Uh, wouldn't I say that he can attest to
[1:00:29] this because this is a county park and
[1:00:32] he happened to work for county.
[1:00:35] >> How many acres? 30 acres.
[1:00:37] >> 30 acres. Yeah. So, this is a pretty good size. Uh, wooded trails. Uh,
[1:00:42] again within this larger dog park area.
[1:00:45] Uh, natural ground surfacing.
[1:00:48] Uh, no permanent water source. Users
[1:00:50] bring their own water jugs. Uh there is
[1:00:53] portable west restroom that is
[1:00:55] available. Uh natural shade beneath um
[1:00:58] the existing trees as amenities and
[1:01:02] users bring their own portable
[1:01:03] furniture. Um and I don't Yeah. So like
[1:01:06] on the bottom right hand or lefthand
[1:01:08] corner uh that was common in one of the
[1:01:11] other county parks as well that you have
[1:01:13] just plastic chairs that people have
[1:01:14] brought to be able to share and so
[1:01:16] people can utilize.
[1:01:19] Uh there is a separate small dog p small dog area although it was a little
[1:01:23] bit overgrown. So as you pulled down
[1:01:26] into the bark the majority is the large
[1:01:29] dog and then on the right hand side was
[1:01:31] a was was a smaller dog uh entry area
[1:01:35] that was totally separate from the large
[1:01:37] dog area. Uh no no agility equipment
[1:01:41] smaller points there.
[1:01:44] >> Yeah yeah yeah. So observations it was
[1:01:46] very natural low impact setting uh that
[1:01:50] relies heavy heavily on existing
[1:01:52] vegetation and park features uh rather
[1:01:54] than having built-in amenities. So um
[1:01:58] remind me this
[1:02:00] bottom right hand corner was that for
[1:02:02] jugs?
[1:02:03] >> Yeah, this was just for water jugs.
[1:02:05] Yeah.
[1:02:05] >> So when they're empty if you get a
[1:02:06] chance grab a few
[1:02:09] >> fill them up bring back. So the pink
[1:02:12] that you see the the pink rectangle,
[1:02:14] those are the the dog doggy bags.
[1:02:17] >> So um they didn't necessarily have them
[1:02:20] in stations. Uh they were just kind of
[1:02:23] out hanging. So easy to access and hard
[1:02:26] to miss.
[1:02:27] >> Yeah,
[1:02:29] most definitely. You will see on the
[1:02:31] kiosk on the bottom leftand corner there
[1:02:33] is a scanner there.
[1:02:34] >> Oh yeah.
[1:02:35] >> So they do have the scanner there. Cool.
[1:02:38] I don't know that I've ever seen a red.
[1:02:45] » Yeah. So, we moved to like the red and
[1:02:47] the pink colored ones because they first
[1:02:50] off they started out in brown.
[1:02:52] >> Yeah.
[1:02:53] >> They became very difficult to find when
[1:02:56] people discarded them
[1:02:58] >> and then they went to green and green
[1:03:00] made it even more difficult to find them
[1:03:02] in the bushes and everything like so
[1:03:05] made it more obvious. uh by going to a
[1:03:08] brighter color.
[1:03:10] >> Yeah.
[1:03:10] >> A reminder to pick it up.
[1:03:13] >> Yeah. So, one thing that will be
[1:03:16] consistent among a lot of of these that
[1:03:18] I just made a note at the end, but is
[1:03:21] something to kind of keep your your mind
[1:03:23] on, most all of these dog parks are
[1:03:25] managed by volunteers.
[1:03:26] >> Yeah.
[1:03:27] >> Uh very little staff time go into them.
[1:03:30] The upper right hand corner you see a
[1:03:32] garbage can. Even at most of these
[1:03:35] sites, there's garbage cans there. and a
[1:03:37] volunteer will come and roll it out and
[1:03:40] leave it out for the for the garbage
[1:03:43] truck to come and pick up. So, a lot of um whether they're um
[1:03:49] stewardship groups or just volunteers
[1:03:52] that sign up, a lot of the dog parks are really managed by the users
[1:03:57] themselves.
[1:04:00] Anything
[1:04:02] else on
[1:04:04] panics?
[1:04:08] Okay, next one. How farm? Anybody been
[1:04:10] to How farm?
[1:04:11] >> Yeah.
[1:04:12] >> Yes. Yeah. Okay. I really like that. I
[1:04:14] really like the separation of this one
[1:04:16] between the the nice open kind of field
[1:04:18] areas and then the fenced in area.
[1:04:21] >> Yeah.
[1:04:21] >> So, how farm is a 13 acre dog park uh
[1:04:25] that's has forest and meadow settings.
[1:04:28] uh has five foot high fencing with chain
[1:04:31] link and double gated bolt pin entry. Uh
[1:04:34] so wire mesh fencing used in other areas
[1:04:37] which is something that I think we
[1:04:38] should look at as well. Uh so having
[1:04:41] that stronger, more durable where your
[1:04:43] bulkhead and entries are, but then
[1:04:45] having uh something that's just more of
[1:04:48] a a necessary barrier but less cost um
[1:04:52] in other parts of the uh dog park off
[1:04:56] leash trails throughout. wooded areas
[1:04:59] combined uh with that massive open
[1:05:02] meadow space. So, kind of two different
[1:05:04] levels of of meadow for this park. Uh
[1:05:08] there's no water source. Um but there's
[1:05:10] portable restrooms that are available.
[1:05:13] Uh no permanent shade structures, but
[1:05:15] shades provided by natural wood setting
[1:05:17] and there are some picnic tables
[1:05:19] throughout. Um no separate areas in this
[1:05:22] one as well uh between large and small
[1:05:24] dog areas. um no agility. Um it's
[1:05:29] natural surface. Uh things that we
[1:05:32] observed. Uh this kind of combines the
[1:05:34] benefits of wooded trails and open
[1:05:36] meadow space in a natural park setting.
[1:05:39] >> How big was this one?
[1:05:41] >> 30 acres.
[1:05:42] >> 13
[1:05:44] >> is what I've got. What do you think it
[1:05:46] is?
[1:05:46] >> 6.6.
[1:05:49] acres. And that is a a permanent
[1:05:53] rental car.
[1:05:53] >> Yeah.
[1:05:54] >> Okay. Oh. Oh, yeah. That's right. Burn
[1:05:57] restroom over there.
[1:05:58] >> Um, so maybe the whole area was 13.
[1:06:01] >> And this is what you're talking about in
[1:06:04] terms of the the kind of the the more
[1:06:07] mesht type sensing and then the natural
[1:06:10] growth that grows up around it to
[1:06:12] support that barrier.
[1:06:14] >> Yeah. So you'll see down here at the
[1:06:15] very bottom of the field, this is a big
[1:06:17] open field down here
[1:06:19] >> and and blackberries and natural
[1:06:22] vegetation from Strawberry Creek is kind
[1:06:24] of encroached on the field fence
[1:06:26] creating that barrier. But the thought
[1:06:29] process into this was exactly what Tim
[1:06:33] uh noted was, you know, the bullpen a
[1:06:37] little little more stout uh a little
[1:06:40] more rigid and then uh kind of keeping a
[1:06:43] more open visual or visually open
[1:06:48] setting and then vegetation's allowed to grow back. there.
[1:06:54] >> And the the other nice thing about this
[1:06:56] park from a user perspective is that the trails are just kind of winding, you
[1:07:02] know, meandering kind of through the,
[1:07:04] you know, it's it's it's a nice setting
[1:07:07] and the dog the dogs move along with
[1:07:09] you, you know, rather than back up and
[1:07:11] do some movement.
[1:07:14] >> It was it was well attended the day that
[1:07:17] we were there.
[1:07:17] >> Yeah, it was very busy. And I made a
[1:07:20] mistake. I said six dog park barks. We
[1:07:22] went to eight.
[1:07:23] >> Wow.
[1:07:24] >> I lost track.
[1:07:25] >> We did four one day, four another day.
[1:07:28] >> Yeah. And this was kids at property
[1:07:30] again at this particular
[1:07:33] >> Yeah.
[1:07:35] >> All right.
[1:07:37] Then on to Bainbridge Island. We had big
[1:07:38] expectations for the Banebridge folk.
[1:07:41] >> Uh but we were very disappointed. I'll say that.
[1:07:45] >> Wow. Um, so hopefully none of them are
[1:07:49] listening tonight.
[1:07:51] >> Red doesn't have We're good.
[1:07:55] >> Okay. So, we were at Eagleale Park, uh,
[1:07:58] off leash area. Uh, this is a 1 acre off
[1:08:02] leash area within a larger park. Um, so
[1:08:06] access to it, it's located in the upper
[1:08:09] and back end of the park area. uh access
[1:08:14] is a walk-in from a parking lot at the
[1:08:16] bottom of the hill. Almost seems like
[1:08:18] there should have been a home site up
[1:08:20] above at one point and maybe they
[1:08:22] donated the property to the park
[1:08:23] district. Uh but there's definitely no
[1:08:25] home up there anymore. There's a lot of
[1:08:27] broken concrete. Um some pathways that
[1:08:29] don't make sense and even getting down
[1:08:31] to the dog park area in the very back is
[1:08:36] steps. Um and so it's completely
[1:08:38] unaccessible. Um, even the uh the slope
[1:08:42] up from the parking area isn't something
[1:08:45] that someone would be able to access.
[1:08:47] >> No, it says right here.
[1:08:49] >> Yeah. Um, it's steeper than what we're
[1:08:52] making it look. We're just Yeah.
[1:08:53] >> Raw athletes.
[1:08:55] >> What does that sign say that you're
[1:08:57] standing next to that you can't
[1:08:59] >> off leash area?
[1:09:00] >> Is that what it says?
[1:09:02] >> Uh, yes.
[1:09:03] >> Okay.
[1:09:04] >> A little faded.
[1:09:05] >> Which one are you looking at?
[1:09:06] >> One where you're standing next to that.
[1:09:08] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. is
[1:09:09] awfully shared.
[1:09:11] >> Yeah, I was pulling the limb back
[1:09:13] because it was like,
[1:09:14] >> oh man, that sign looks
[1:09:15] >> need some love.
[1:09:16] >> Yeah, it needs some love.
[1:09:18] >> And here's some maintenance.
[1:09:20] >> Yes.
[1:09:22] >> So, the fencing in the park varies
[1:09:23] between four to six foot high and fence
[1:09:27] along the fence area. Uh you can see on
[1:09:30] the upper right that there is a small
[1:09:32] trail that kind of meanders around, but
[1:09:34] it's a very small um very small dog
[1:09:36] park. Uh no water source or restrooms uh
[1:09:40] within the off leash area. There was a
[1:09:43] restroom down below uh where the main
[1:09:45] parking area was. Uh no, let's see. Uh
[1:09:50] limited uh amenities. Uh primarily a
[1:09:54] natural park setting. Uh no separate
[1:09:57] small dog, small or large dog area, just
[1:10:00] allin-one. Uh no type of agility. Um you
[1:10:04] can see on the bottom of the um
[1:10:11] » yeah bottom of the kiosk they have a
[1:10:13] bucket there so people would put uh
[1:10:15] tennis balls in there
[1:10:17] >> which was kind of a cool idea um that
[1:10:20] they had you know a spot that people
[1:10:22] could drop a tennis ball or if they
[1:10:24] forgot one lost one there's there's
[1:10:26] something there uh that people can could
[1:10:28] share.
[1:10:30] Um, we kind of figured, let's see,
[1:10:32] seasonal conditions could become very
[1:10:34] soggy and muddy during the wet season.
[1:10:36] Uh, not a whole lot of direct sunlight.
[1:10:39] Um, things that we noticed, it was very
[1:10:42] small natural offish area. Uh, suited to
[1:10:46] be more of a neighborhood use. Um, and,
[1:10:50] uh, it's integrated into a little bit
[1:10:53] larger. Um, she noted as a community
[1:10:55] park. I'd probably note it as just a
[1:10:57] neighborhood park. Uh the overall size
[1:10:59] or the space. Yeah.
[1:11:02] >> Just because of the size.
[1:11:04] >> Yeah.
[1:11:05] The usable space. Yeah.
[1:11:07] >> So it could use some less.
[1:11:09] >> It could. Yeah. We've never seen that
[1:11:11] much moss on top of anything before.
[1:11:13] That was impressive.
[1:11:17] » Yes. All right. So the second uh
[1:11:20] Bainbridge Island spot we hit,
[1:11:22] Strawberry Hill. Uh much improved. Uh
[1:11:25] this is a um
[1:11:29] shows it is a halfacre or sorry half or
[1:11:32] five acre five acre five acre wooded off
[1:11:34] leash area um with a small and large dog
[1:11:39] area fully enclosed 4 foot high chain
[1:11:43] link fence and a large double gated um
[1:11:46] if you're familiar with an airlock
[1:11:48] bullpin entry. So air lock essentially
[1:11:51] there's you're not um the post you're
[1:11:54] not pulling up and down the clip. Um
[1:11:57] it's kind of basically spring loed and
[1:11:59] rests up against it. So once you're in
[1:12:01] the bullpin a dog could once it's ready
[1:12:05] push its way into the area that they
[1:12:08] wanted to go. So the larger small area.
[1:12:11] Um so that was the only one that we'd
[1:12:12] seen that way. They did use this type of
[1:12:14] fencing throughout the entire park. Um,
[1:12:17] so it had to have been quite an expense
[1:12:20] uh to put that in, but it's it's a nice
[1:12:22] fence.
[1:12:24] >> Yeah. Uh, wooded natural area. Um,
[1:12:30] there's no trails within the fenced in
[1:12:32] area. Although on the large dog side, we
[1:12:35] did see people that utilize the
[1:12:37] exterior. Um,
[1:12:41] let's see. There's water hose available
[1:12:43] for filling dog bowls, restroom within
[1:12:45] the larger park. Uh there's benches and
[1:12:48] seating uh with mature trees uh
[1:12:51] providing natural shade. Uh waste bags
[1:12:54] and receptacles are provided. Um
[1:12:57] separate like I said separate small dog
[1:12:59] area. They also had a training bay at
[1:13:02] this one which is that middle left
[1:13:04] picture. Uh so the out on the separate
[1:13:08] on the opposite um side of the little
[1:13:11] pathway from the large and small dog
[1:13:13] area was a separate training area or I
[1:13:16] would assume if you have a dog that
[1:13:17] doesn't socialize well it might be a
[1:13:19] good spot to kind of run your dog. It
[1:13:21] wasn't a real big space uh but was kind
[1:13:24] of nice to hadn't seen that before. So
[1:13:26] it's nice kind of separate area that
[1:13:28] they provided there. uh natural ground
[1:13:31] surface, although a lot of it was all
[1:13:33] mulch um throughout the entire which I'm
[1:13:36] would take to the water probably a lot
[1:13:38] better than some of the others uh parks
[1:13:41] that we've seen. Um nearby amenities.
[1:13:44] It's in a in a park where there's
[1:13:46] playgrounds, sports fields, um various
[1:13:49] courts, skate park, uh picnic shelters,
[1:13:52] and just other multiuse spaces.
[1:14:00] Dad, ready to go on?
[1:14:02] >> Let's go.
[1:14:03] >> We're getting closer to home.
[1:14:05] >> And how and how many acres I see?
[1:14:07] >> That was five. Five acres still. Yeah.
[1:14:12] >> Okay. KSO,
[1:14:15] probably the least impressive dog park
[1:14:17] maybe that we saw. Uh Rob Park. Uh this
[1:14:20] is a.7 acre off leash area. um
[1:14:26] uh within a 21 acre community park. Uh
[1:14:30] so 4 foot high chain link fence uh
[1:14:32] doublegated bulkin entry natural ground
[1:14:35] surface which within a larger community
[1:14:38] park uh no fenced in trails within this
[1:14:41] area. Water hose was available for
[1:14:44] filling dog bowls and there's a restroom
[1:14:46] that was nearby. Uh benches and seating
[1:14:49] were available. Um
[1:14:52] there was a small dog area, separate
[1:14:54] fence area provided some separation
[1:14:56] between the large and small dog area.
[1:14:58] You can kind of see it off. Um well,
[1:15:02] we're on the upper right. We're inside
[1:15:03] the large dog and then you can see the
[1:15:05] fence on the left hand side for the
[1:15:07] small dog area.
[1:15:10] Uh let's see.
[1:15:13] Um
[1:15:15] so it's close to um picnic shelters,
[1:15:19] playgrounds, sports courts, skate park,
[1:15:21] community gardens. Um
[1:15:23] it's a very compact off leash area. Um
[1:15:28] benefits from its location within a
[1:15:30] larger amenity um community park. So
[1:15:33] just a a small off leash space um that
[1:15:38] it larger.
[1:15:40] >> What's that?
[1:15:41] >> I said after. Yes. Almost an
[1:15:43] afterthought, but it's right at the
[1:15:45] entry to the main main park. So, this is
[1:15:47] kind of this is the uh the front porch
[1:15:50] of the main park.
[1:15:51] >> Yeah. As you come in
[1:15:56] like the ground was all dirt there, too.
[1:15:58] >> Oh, yeah. It's pretty much either all
[1:16:01] worn up or
[1:16:02] >> I've been there. It's really all dirt.
[1:16:05] >> Yeah. Go back there.
[1:16:08] >> The one side's pretty slow. I feel like
[1:16:10] the entrance
[1:16:12] >> where you're talking about kind of
[1:16:12] slopes off.
[1:16:14] >> Yeah. As you move further back, it
[1:16:15] slopes slopes off.
[1:16:17] >> Pretty good.
[1:16:18] >> Yeah.
[1:16:20] And then just again like the
[1:16:21] bottom right hand or left hand corner
[1:16:23] just kind of an example of something
[1:16:25] that they provide there. They provide a
[1:16:26] shovel to talk through.
[1:16:30] >> Just have a shovel hanging out there.
[1:16:31] >> And nobody stole there.
[1:16:33] >> No. Sorry. No, they have it. No, it's there.
[1:16:39] All right.
[1:16:41] Okay. Silverdale Dog Park is a 1.3 acre
[1:16:44] off leash area uh within Silverdale
[1:16:47] Rotary Gateway Park. Uh it has 4 foot
[1:16:50] high chain link fencing and double gated
[1:16:52] bullpin entry. Um
[1:16:55] it's directly adjacent to the Cedar
[1:16:57] Creek Trail providing opportunities for
[1:17:00] leashed uh walks before and after dog
[1:17:03] park use. Um
[1:17:05] there's a water spigot and restroom that
[1:17:08] are available adjacent. Uh this one also
[1:17:11] had a storage shed that was in before
[1:17:15] you entered in for the volunteers to be
[1:17:17] able to access the various supplies
[1:17:20] which I thought was kind of interesting.
[1:17:23] Um there's benches and seating mature
[1:17:25] trees. Uh they used a carport structure
[1:17:29] for the the shade structure. uh waste
[1:17:32] bags and receptacles are provided there.
[1:17:35] Also, similar to uh one of the parks in
[1:17:39] Port Orchard there, and you can see them
[1:17:41] kind of in the middle on the right, um
[1:17:44] some chairs that people have donated uh
[1:17:46] for seating there as well.
[1:17:50] Uh let's see, they do have a separate
[1:17:52] fenced in area for small dogs, natural
[1:17:55] ground surface. Um there was quite a few
[1:17:58] people there that day, so uh definitely
[1:18:01] was getting dusty. Um and then you
[1:18:03] figured that it would be pretty muddy in
[1:18:05] the winter weather unless you have some
[1:18:07] ground growth that that kind of covers
[1:18:09] things back up. Observations uh is very
[1:18:13] popular and convenient location. Our
[1:18:15] parking could become busy because it
[1:18:17] also serves as a parking lot for the
[1:18:20] main recreational pathways and uses to
[1:18:23] the main part of the park.
[1:18:25] This is the one off Silverdale Way by
[1:18:27] the skate park.
[1:18:32] » Yeah.
[1:18:32] I've seen people that that little
[1:18:34] parking lot gets packed.
[1:18:36] >> It does. Yeah. And it was we were there
[1:18:39] >> was a Wednesday or a Thursday, but we
[1:18:41] were there at 11:00 10 11 o'clock in the
[1:18:44] morning and it was packed. So,
[1:18:46] >> but they weren't all pretty.
[1:18:49] >> No, a lot of people on the trail.
[1:18:50] >> Oh, yeah. On the trails. Yeah.
[1:18:52] Definitely not everybody. Oh, there's a
[1:18:54] black. Yes,
[1:18:55] >> it's rounded.
[1:18:57] >> This one also, the other ones I didn't
[1:18:59] see it at all. Um, individual donations
[1:19:03] or in memory of pets, they had little
[1:19:06] plaques that were along uh different
[1:19:09] parts of the fence lines. Uh, so I
[1:19:11] assume they use that as, you know,
[1:19:13] fundraiser to to put amenities back into
[1:19:17] uh the the uh the dog park areas.
[1:19:22] Uh, so just a couple general comments.
[1:19:25] Um, one I already touched on the
[1:19:27] accessibility. Um, this one I can't
[1:19:30] remember if the volunteer group is noted
[1:19:33] on here, but we've we kind of discovered
[1:19:36] that there's this do you remember the
[1:19:38] name of their group?
[1:19:39] >> Kids Park.
[1:19:41] >> Yeah, it's probably something simple.
[1:19:43] Kids app dog park, Inc. uh t I think
[1:19:46] managed at least three of the sites and
[1:19:49] so Colette's reached out to them to get
[1:19:51] more information
[1:19:53] um and just kind of see is that
[1:19:54] something is is Breton something they
[1:19:57] may even be interested in and if not can
[1:19:59] we steal resources ideas how do you
[1:20:01] manage the people that are um
[1:20:04] contributing and supporting each of the
[1:20:06] individual dog parks? So that was an
[1:20:09] organization none of us had heard of
[1:20:10] before. So, um, so that was that was
[1:20:13] cool to see see that partnership. I
[1:20:16] think maybe it was all the county ones
[1:20:18] that add it. Yeah.
[1:20:21] >> All of the county did you say?
[1:20:23] >> The three that we want to Yeah.
[1:20:24] >> Oh, yeah.
[1:20:26] >> partner with this organization.
[1:20:32] That's it.
[1:20:34] >> It's all eight of them.
[1:20:36] >> Cool.
[1:20:37] >> So, you're ready first week.
[1:20:39] >> So, we're ready.
[1:20:40] >> Can you? Yeah. Yeah. So, we're we're
[1:20:42] ready.
[1:20:43] >> So, how many acres is Stephenson?
[1:20:46] >> Oh, I meant I meant to write that down.
[1:20:49] Yeah. Kind of depends on the space that
[1:20:51] we utilize. Is that open space area a
[1:20:53] couple acres?
[1:20:54] >> I'd say probably close to
[1:20:58] two acres of open space down below. And
[1:21:01] then we have that upper area.
[1:21:03] >> Yeah. Not including where we're looking
[1:21:05] at for this small dog area. And it
[1:21:08] doesn't include incorporation of any of
[1:21:11] the trail systems
[1:21:12] >> right if you went over.
[1:21:13] >> So we could have anywhere between two
[1:21:16] and maybe three to four acres total to
[1:21:19] work with.
[1:21:22] >> Well, thanks for all that work.
[1:21:24] >> Yeah, I think that was great. Great idea
[1:21:26] checking it out.
[1:21:28] >> Yeah, our plan next month and we'll get
[1:21:30] information out to you is that we'll
[1:21:32] have an on-site meeting. So then we can
[1:21:34] get out
[1:21:35] >> and uh we'll just hold the whole meeting
[1:21:37] there, but we can get out um and really
[1:21:40] look at the site uh prior to getting our
[1:21:45] um our steering committee put together
[1:21:48] to help really push this project
[1:21:50] forward.
[1:21:54] » You have a projection of the approximate
[1:21:56] time frame of having it ready and to go?
[1:22:00] Uh, I mean, we'd love to be able to kind
[1:22:02] of get some, you know, the the public
[1:22:04] input process this fall, maybe do some
[1:22:07] design work in the winter and depending
[1:22:10] on what we would do in house versus
[1:22:13] contract.
[1:22:14] >> Um, to go through construction process
[1:22:17] next summer would be ideal.
[1:22:18] >> Okay.
[1:22:19] >> Next spring summer.
[1:22:22] >> Were you the chauffeur on that on those
[1:22:23] trips as well, Brandon?
[1:22:24] >> I sure was.
[1:22:25] >> Yeah, you are.
[1:22:27] >> Good.
[1:22:27] >> Yeah. Was in my Ford Escape. Yeah.
[1:22:30] >> Oh, I was going to say he didn't have
[1:22:32] that.
[1:22:33] >> I don't let anybody drive me in the city
[1:22:35] for an escape.
[1:22:38] >> What the speak about here talk about is
[1:22:40] even when this park was built, you can
[1:22:42] see along the backside that they also
[1:22:44] use vinyl coated chain link fence.
[1:22:49] But when you look at it right here,
[1:22:50] >> Yeah.
[1:22:51] >> not really needed.
[1:22:53] >> No.
[1:22:57] So something
[1:23:00] a little more simple like a field fence
[1:23:02] or something like that that's a little
[1:23:04] more practical
[1:23:06] um and a little more cost efficient will
[1:23:09] you know surely
[1:23:16] » so the location of of Stephson dog park
[1:23:19] it'll have natural shade just from trees
[1:23:22] and foliage so we wouldn't necessar
[1:23:24] necessarily need a structure.
[1:23:26] >> Well, I think that would be something
[1:23:27] good to talk about because I think we've
[1:23:30] talked about a potential to put a
[1:23:32] structure down there because it could
[1:23:33] the center portion could get quite a bit
[1:23:35] of sun, get quite a bit of sun
[1:23:36] throughout the day,
[1:23:39] >> right?
[1:23:39] >> But again, it gives us the opportunity
[1:23:41] too to use some natural barrier, but
[1:23:44] also use some trails. So, it could be a
[1:23:46] good mix.
[1:23:49] >> All right, I guess we're ready to move
[1:23:51] on. I see the next screen. the 27 28
[1:23:54] bianial budget update.
[1:23:58] >> Okay. So, as I promised throughout the
[1:24:00] budget process, I'll just kind of give
[1:24:03] be giving you some tidbits and
[1:24:04] highlights throughout. Um, so the check
[1:24:08] marks uh are things that we've gotten
[1:24:11] through so far. So, the kickoff
[1:24:12] happened. Um, I went in front of council
[1:24:15] and just kind of talked about what our
[1:24:17] needs are within the department. uh
[1:24:19] shared with them uh what some standards
[1:24:22] are uh across the country um as far as
[1:24:26] staffing levels, park sizes,
[1:24:29] um types of facilities that we we have
[1:24:33] to comparable communities. Um we've uh
[1:24:38] submitted our operating uh expense
[1:24:41] expenses and revenues. Uh we've also
[1:24:44] submitted our rates and fee structures.
[1:24:47] So, the only thing that I'm looking to
[1:24:50] change this year, I I changed all all
[1:24:53] fees last year, which was over 200 fees.
[1:24:56] This year, uh we're looking at really
[1:24:59] focusing on golf course, which is where
[1:25:01] a majority of our revenue comes in
[1:25:02] anyway. um and less on um I'm I have
[1:25:06] concerns with pricing ourselves out of
[1:25:08] business and and recreation to me is a
[1:25:14] um benefit to the community and um just
[1:25:17] making sure that uh what we're charging
[1:25:20] obviously covers our costs um but we
[1:25:23] don't want to lose participants because
[1:25:25] of what we're charging for programs. Um,
[1:25:29] and so department rates and fees, as you
[1:25:32] know, not noticed below, we'll cover
[1:25:34] that with council on October 28th. Uh,
[1:25:37] but the highlighted one is is the one I
[1:25:40] wanted to kind of cover with you today
[1:25:41] mostly was showing you uh because this
[1:25:44] year we submitted a a six-year capital
[1:25:47] improvement plan. Um, so our parks
[1:25:50] capital budget uh which coincides
[1:25:53] directly with the pros plan. Um, and so
[1:25:56] that'll be on the next slide. I can I'll
[1:25:58] talk through that with you. Uh but
[1:26:00] upcoming budget meetings uh so the
[1:26:03] general council workshops where they'll
[1:26:04] hear from the various departments will
[1:26:06] be on October 22nd and 26. We don't know
[1:26:09] who will present when yet. Uh October
[1:26:12] 28th will be dedicated to just read some
[1:26:15] fees. Uh early November will be the
[1:26:19] opportunity for council to ask
[1:26:21] departments questions and hopefully we
[1:26:23] can answer them as much as we can on
[1:26:25] site. and then for uh council to talk
[1:26:28] about whether they want to have any sort
[1:26:29] of priorities. Uh we have been given a
[1:26:32] direction like I had mentioned
[1:26:33] previously that the council wants to see
[1:26:36] a zerobased budget. So uh nobody unless
[1:26:39] you cover it with increase in revenues
[1:26:41] or revenue to offset expenses. uh nobody
[1:26:44] should be presenting really any new
[1:26:47] budget other than stabilizing where we
[1:26:49] were this this current fiscal year uh
[1:26:52] for 2027 and for 2028 right now. Uh then
[1:26:57] following November 5th,
[1:26:59] >> I'm sorry. Is that
[1:27:01] >> all department?
[1:27:02] >> All departments. Yeah.
[1:27:03] >> Yeah. And because we're we already run
[1:27:06] on a pretty tight budget in parks, uh we
[1:27:10] haven't necessarily been asked to look
[1:27:12] at making cuts as much as other
[1:27:14] departments have. So there's some
[1:27:16] departments that are doing some some
[1:27:18] consolidation um with some with some
[1:27:22] positions but also looking at instead of
[1:27:24] contracting out some services um trying
[1:27:27] to provide that in-house and save some
[1:27:29] money uh that way. So uh there's
[1:27:32] definitely a lot of lot of work that's
[1:27:34] being done behind the scenes.
[1:27:37] A quick question on you mentioned Gold
[1:27:39] Mountain and potential fee items. Are we
[1:27:41] talking greens fees and um rental of the
[1:27:44] facility for like what?
[1:27:46] >> Yeah, primarily greens fees. Okay.
[1:27:48] >> And so what we have listed within our
[1:27:51] fees and structures is a not to exceed
[1:27:53] rate because we run uh Gold Mountain um
[1:27:58] we have a dynamic pricing system. And so
[1:28:01] if you want to go and play, let's say at
[1:28:02] prime time at 9:00 am, you're probably
[1:28:04] going to pay what's listed as the peak.
[1:28:07] Um, but if you want to go play at 3 pm,
[1:28:09] you're going to be paying much less.
[1:28:11] >> Um, so like I said, the dynamic pricing
[1:28:14] and the not to exceed is what the not to
[1:28:16] exceed is what we is what we put in as
[1:28:19] our budget request for increases each
[1:28:22] year.
[1:28:22] >> And the other thing I just want to say,
[1:28:24] I mean, it makes sense. We're cascade
[1:28:26] course is being improved
[1:28:28] >> and we have just a be those are just
[1:28:31] beautiful courses out there that are
[1:28:33] just highly soughta and draw people from
[1:28:36] all over our state to come.
[1:28:38] >> And even Cascade right now has a certain
[1:28:40] pricing structure and once it's
[1:28:41] completed that'll change.
[1:28:42] >> Yeah. The fees are competitive and I
[1:28:45] hear no complaint. I I personally don't
[1:28:48] golf but I have a lot of friends that do
[1:28:50] and they just rave about golf.
[1:28:52] >> Oh yeah.
[1:28:53] >> Yeah. I mean, and I've started playing a
[1:28:55] lot of different courses around the
[1:28:56] area, and there's some that, especially
[1:28:59] 12 months a year, I feel like ours are
[1:29:01] in way better shape, and I'm paying, you
[1:29:04] know, $30, $40 more to play somewhere
[1:29:06] else.
[1:29:07] >> Uh, when really we're probably the one
[1:29:10] of the best deals. And I know council
[1:29:12] looks at that and says, "Okay, well,
[1:29:13] let's charge more." But at the same
[1:29:15] time, we still want to function as a
[1:29:17] municipal course. Um when you want to
[1:29:19] grow you want to grow partly
[1:29:23] participation there hopefully you want
[1:29:25] to keep
[1:29:25] >> yeah and there's some some other things
[1:29:27] and maybe this next year uh because with
[1:29:30] Cascade uh that project starting to move
[1:29:32] forward I also had a meeting today where
[1:29:35] we're looking at redesigning the
[1:29:37] practice facility
[1:29:40] um uh modernizing things but then also
[1:29:43] making it more interactive and and
[1:29:46] entertaining entertainment type value to
[1:29:49] that space. Um, so bringing things in
[1:29:52] like fire pits, cornhole, uh, other
[1:29:55] things that will entice people to come
[1:29:57] out and hang out. U, maybe a small venue
[1:29:59] where someone could perform as well. So,
[1:30:03] incorporate some of these things in, but
[1:30:04] also with our driving range, um maybe
[1:30:07] not make it quite the top golf or a
[1:30:09] virtual golf, but bring in um the
[1:30:14] ability for someone to be able to use uh
[1:30:17] the track tracer and see how far they're
[1:30:20] actually hitting as opposed to looking.
[1:30:22] So, bring some of that technology in
[1:30:24] without going to the extent that that
[1:30:27] some of those entertainment venues go
[1:30:29] to. So cool stuff.
[1:30:32] >> I have to admit I'm ignorant on I didn't
[1:30:36] know I knew you could make reservation
[1:30:37] times, but I didn't know you paid for
[1:30:40] specific times and you paid you paid
[1:30:43] more at a better time.
[1:30:45] >> Y
[1:30:45] >> Oh, okay.
[1:30:46] >> Y
[1:30:47] >> and and people are willing to pay.
[1:30:50] >> Absolutely.
[1:30:51] >> Convenience
[1:30:54] for convenience. I knew that you could
[1:30:56] make a reservation, but I know my
[1:30:59] neighbor who is leaving at six o'clock
[1:31:01] in the morning to go golfing on the
[1:31:03] weekends is probably going
[1:31:07] dark.
[1:31:07] >> Yeah.
[1:31:08] >> Okay. All right. Thanks.
[1:31:10] >> Yeah. Usually the first tea times,
[1:31:11] especially if you're fall, winter,
[1:31:13] spring, they hold it off a little bit
[1:31:15] because they do uh but usually your
[1:31:18] first tea times are between 6:30 and
[1:31:20] 6:45 in the morning.
[1:31:23] >> The early birds.
[1:31:24] >> Yes. Yes.
[1:31:26] >> So, um the the main public hearings uh
[1:31:29] in front of council. So, that'll give
[1:31:31] the opportunity for the the public after
[1:31:33] it's published uh after the budget's
[1:31:36] published um for comments. Uh but
[1:31:39] November 11th and 18th will be those
[1:31:41] public hearings. Um these are just kind
[1:31:43] of estimates for now. council could act
[1:31:45] could end up delaying this if they want
[1:31:47] to deliberate more, but um prior to but
[1:31:50] the plan is is to be able to get it uh
[1:31:53] forwarded on um public hearings be the
[1:31:56] 11th and 18th with the adoption on
[1:31:58] November 18th
[1:32:01] um is what's planned for for right now.
[1:32:04] So, as far as um what can the commission
[1:32:07] do to help support um I'll kind of keep
[1:32:10] you in the loop on that. Um, I'll let
[1:32:13] you know when I plan to present. Um,
[1:32:16] there's not necessarily any public
[1:32:18] feedback during that time frame. Um, I
[1:32:20] will be bringing the golf course for the
[1:32:22] rates and fees just because that's where
[1:32:24] we're really focusing. So then Columbia
[1:32:26] Hospitality as the professionals uh can
[1:32:29] explain their reasoning and and looking
[1:32:32] at why they chose the price structure uh
[1:32:35] to present uh for this next year. Um
[1:32:38] probably more of the public hearings if
[1:32:40] it does seem like we need some support
[1:32:42] or want some support or if you'd like to
[1:32:45] provide support that's probably the best
[1:32:46] time frame uh would be uh for the public
[1:32:49] hearings if you wanted to get up and
[1:32:51] you'll share that with us.
[1:32:52] >> I'll definitely share that. Yeah.
[1:32:54] >> Yeah.
[1:32:56] So between now and early October,
[1:32:59] this is really kind of the time frame
[1:33:00] that that finance department is kind of
[1:33:03] compiling everything, starting to meet
[1:33:05] with the mayor this next week, I
[1:33:07] believe, and walking through uh the
[1:33:10] anticipated budget before it goes to
[1:33:12] council for council to have a good look
[1:33:14] at it for a a good month or so before um
[1:33:18] our presentation start in mid to late
[1:33:20] October.
[1:33:26] That's all I got.
[1:33:27] >> Money. That's all.
[1:33:28] >> Oh, I forgot to share this.
[1:33:31] >> Yeah, she kind of wanted to talk more.
[1:33:32] >> Oh, yeah.
[1:33:33] >> So, this is Was this in your packet?
[1:33:36] >> I can't remember.
[1:33:37] >> You know, I don't
[1:33:38] >> I'm not I can send it out to you. I may
[1:33:41] have not put it in there.
[1:33:43] >> It may have just been this slide.
[1:33:46] >> Yes.
[1:33:46] >> Or maybe you didn't get it. You might
[1:33:48] not have gotten anything in in the
[1:33:50] packet. Um but I'll get this to you. So,
[1:33:53] this is our five six-year capital plan.
[1:33:56] Obviously, 2026 is what we're
[1:33:58] anticipating spending this year. And
[1:34:00] then 2027,
[1:34:03] um these are the pro those are all the
[1:34:06] projects. We about 2 almost $3 million
[1:34:10] worth of projects is what we're looking
[1:34:11] at. A lot of those are grant funded. Um
[1:34:14] so, the first one, the 160,000, we I
[1:34:17] think we've talked about that. Those are
[1:34:20] that's the community development block
[1:34:22] grant funds. And so we'll be using that
[1:34:25] for um just some general improvements
[1:34:27] within the park system.
[1:34:30] >> And that excuse me if I can that is
[1:34:33] Breton.
[1:34:36] >> It's community development block grants
[1:34:37] that Breton partners with the county on.
[1:34:41] Uh but it's Breton. It's Breton.
[1:34:44] >> Well, it's Breton has its own fund.
[1:34:46] >> It's Breton. Breton has a 10 and then there's
[1:34:50] >> Breton.
[1:34:52] Yes. Okay.
[1:34:53] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, Breton
[1:34:55] >> and then we have 30,000 in there for um
[1:34:58] kind of getting that master plan started
[1:35:00] for Forest Ridge Park.
[1:35:03] Um some of these like the the 30,000
[1:35:06] there, we don't necessarily have a
[1:35:07] matching grant right now or a grant for
[1:35:10] that. So that's coming out of our
[1:35:13] proposals for that to come out of I
[1:35:15] think parks capital for that one.
[1:35:19] Uh Lions Park accessibility retrofit was
[1:35:22] kind of talked about that and and uh
[1:35:25] that's become quite a a large larger
[1:35:28] project than we thought it would be and
[1:35:29] that's improving accessibility at those
[1:35:32] ports um and uh removing those slopes.
[1:35:35] but it's also going to cause us to put
[1:35:37] new fencing up and and basically level
[1:35:40] everything out there. Uh park security
[1:35:42] cameras. So between 27 and 28, we're
[1:35:45] looking at making improvements within
[1:35:46] our parks and adding security cameras.
[1:35:49] This isn't to monitor people, but this
[1:35:52] is in case something happens. So in the
[1:35:55] areas that we tend to have more
[1:35:56] vandalism, theft, uh we'll be putting
[1:35:59] some cameras in uh is the plan there. Um
[1:36:03] the tree assessment and imple
[1:36:05] implementation. You can see that's a
[1:36:07] budget every year. That's kind of a if
[1:36:09] we need to have a master plan or a a
[1:36:12] forestry a forest um urban forestry type
[1:36:16] plan created for certain areas, uh we
[1:36:18] want to all lot money within our general
[1:36:20] fund account to to take care of those
[1:36:24] types of projects.
[1:36:26] uh the Pender
[1:36:27] Regional Park uh turf fields, the 150
[1:36:31] for this year, that's for the 90%
[1:36:34] drawings to be completed. The 2 million
[1:36:37] and the 2.3 million between 27 and 28
[1:36:40] would be the development of those two uh
[1:36:43] turf field projects. And so the 2
[1:36:46] million and 27 would be 500,000 from
[1:36:48] city funds and then 1.5 million from a
[1:36:52] recreation conservation
[1:36:54] um grant that we've applied for and then
[1:36:57] the 2.3 actually the two 200 2 million
[1:37:01] of the 2.3 would um be coming from a
[1:37:05] private source as a partner for that
[1:37:07] project uh that we've been working with.
[1:37:10] and 300,000 uh would be coming from our
[1:37:14] uh our general fund account to round off
[1:37:16] that 2.3. Uh the 150,000 for softball
[1:37:22] field improvements. Uh that's to um
[1:37:26] remove and replace some of the infield
[1:37:28] material on our three ball fields up
[1:37:31] there. uh get a u a much better user
[1:37:35] friendly um um type of material in there
[1:37:39] that can also um hold in um not hold in
[1:37:44] but let drain through uh rain when it
[1:37:47] comes in but it's just much better
[1:37:49] playing facility and and nonrock
[1:37:52] generating
[1:37:53] um surface as well. uh Stephenson Canyon
[1:37:56] as you know the the 285 there uh from
[1:38:00] Department of Commerce grant and then we
[1:38:02] just kind of have a standing item here
[1:38:04] for other parks facilities capital
[1:38:06] improvements that's in case during the
[1:38:08] year we have something that needs to be
[1:38:11] addressed we have uh a budget that's
[1:38:14] sitting out there within the general
[1:38:16] fund to fund those types of projects.
[1:38:22] » Yeah, I'll be happy to get get this to
[1:38:24] you. So then you've got it. I actually
[1:38:26] have a Excel spreadsheet that if you
[1:38:28] click on each of the number, it'll tell
[1:38:30] you what the for funding sources are too
[1:38:33] that we've identified for that. And so
[1:38:35] that that form has the expense, but then
[1:38:39] also has a revenue uh area as well. So
[1:38:42] it's easier to read that way.
[1:38:45] >> Thanks, Tim.
[1:38:46] >> Yeah, great.
[1:38:49] >> I talked a lot.
[1:38:52] Anyone have any questions or comments?
[1:38:55] No. All right. Now, we're going to move
[1:38:57] on to commissioner's comments. Dave,
[1:39:00] we'll start with you. You're right here.
[1:39:02] No. Nothing.
[1:39:03] >> Nothing.
[1:39:04] >> Director, I had a quick question. I
[1:39:06] don't I'm not sure if it's been talked
[1:39:07] about this commissioner or not. Could
[1:39:09] you tell us what's going on down at on
[1:39:12] street where our mini park is because
[1:39:14] it's destroyed
[1:39:18] » at the mini park or just Ninth Street
[1:39:20] and
[1:39:20] >> at the mini park? Yeah. So, so this is
[1:39:23] all a public works project.
[1:39:25] >> Okay.
[1:39:26] >> I feel like we did talk about this
[1:39:27] maybe.
[1:39:28] >> Yeah, we we looked at it last year.
[1:39:31] >> Yeah.
[1:39:31] >> At one point. Um I think even someone
[1:39:33] from public works came in and presented
[1:39:36] um and showed talked about it. It's
[1:39:38] essentially um
[1:39:41] making storm water improvements within
[1:39:43] that area of Manette. And then I can't
[1:39:46] remember if it's an outflow is what they
[1:39:48] call it, but essentially it's going
[1:39:49] through a system before it enters into
[1:39:52] the sound.
[1:39:53] >> Okay.
[1:39:53] >> And so with that um it's tearing up that
[1:39:57] park and so there'll be improvements
[1:39:59] that are going to be made. So we've got
[1:40:00] some trees that are going to be removed
[1:40:02] because of issues we're having with Rick
[1:40:04] systems.
[1:40:05] >> So there'll be Yeah, they'll be re
[1:40:08] replanting.
[1:40:10] >> Um if you're interested, I've got I got
[1:40:12] full plans in my office. Um, but
[1:40:15] essentially what's going back is we'll
[1:40:16] have a accessible parking stall, four
[1:40:20] regular stalls adjacent to it, um, a
[1:40:24] doggy pot bag, a garbage can, and two
[1:40:27] picnic tables. Uh, the other thing
[1:40:29] that's going to be a part of this
[1:40:31] improvement is,
[1:40:33] um, going from the grass area down to
[1:40:36] the beach area is going to be more
[1:40:38] gradual and easier to access. Yeah, cuz
[1:40:41] it
[1:40:41] >> won't be fully accessible, but it'll be
[1:40:44] much easier than it was
[1:40:45] >> to access.
[1:40:46] >> Have you seen it? Cuz we haven't been
[1:40:47] able to get down.
[1:40:48] >> I just drove by it before this meeting
[1:40:50] and it is
[1:40:52] >> you got to swim from downtown.
[1:40:53] >> Okay. I was going to say
[1:40:54] >> it is. Yeah. That big tree.
[1:40:57] >> I don't know what kind of tree it was,
[1:40:59] but there forever. I know the root
[1:41:00] system is crazy.
[1:41:02] >> Yeah. And if you have seen anything
[1:41:04] posted lately on social media, um the
[1:41:09] work that's being done right now on the
[1:41:11] beach area in Smith Cove is tied to
[1:41:14] that. This is the environmental
[1:41:15] remediation side of it. Okay.
[1:41:17] >> Um so there's a removal of rock debris.
[1:41:21] Um
[1:41:22] >> Brian can speak to a little bit further
[1:41:24] if he wants, but over the next couple
[1:41:26] weeks, we put a post out today to let
[1:41:29] people be aware of what's going on over
[1:41:31] there. So, it's a public works
[1:41:33] operation. It's a Department of Ecology
[1:41:36] grant and it's for storm water
[1:41:38] improvement. And so,
[1:41:40] >> uh off of Nin Street there, it's a water
[1:41:44] quality. It's being able to treat the
[1:41:45] water before it gets sent out into the
[1:41:47] south.
[1:41:48] >> Okay.
[1:41:48] >> With that, uh there's some mitigation
[1:41:51] that needs to happen. uh down in Smith
[1:41:54] Cove at uh Evergreen Park, there's a lot
[1:41:57] of angular rock that was put there
[1:42:00] decades and decades ago that has kind of
[1:42:02] migrated down into the cove. As part of
[1:42:06] that, uh there that same contractor
[1:42:08] that's on Ninth Street is also doing the
[1:42:10] work removing those rocks and pull them
[1:42:13] out. So, there's a disturbance to both
[1:42:16] parks at the time.
[1:42:17] >> Yeah. Uh we're hoping to wrap up the
[1:42:20] evergreen word uh within about the next
[1:42:24] week, week and a half,
[1:42:27] >> but then when it's all done, our park
[1:42:28] will be restored. And
[1:42:30] >> yes, it is.
[1:42:32] >> All right.
[1:42:33] >> Conviction.
[1:42:34] >> It's a public It's a public project. Got
[1:42:37] it. To be clear on that. One other one
[1:42:40] that uh once we get the design plans and
[1:42:44] work further is we're working with the
[1:42:45] East Breton Rotary to make some
[1:42:47] improvements to Bachmann Park as well.
[1:42:50] >> Um so they have already come out and
[1:42:51] done some some cleanup work button.
[1:42:55] >> Yeah, East Breton Rotary and we powered
[1:42:59] >> there's no expense to us for that and so
[1:43:02] it's not listed as a capital
[1:43:03] improvement. Thank you.
[1:43:04] >> Um but but there are items within the
[1:43:07] pros plan for Bachmann that we hope to
[1:43:09] address at some point.
[1:43:11] >> Perfect. Thank you.
[1:43:13] >> All right, Alex. Nothing for me.
[1:43:17] >> You had a wonderful presentation.
[1:43:20] >> Thank you so much.
[1:43:21] >> All right, Joan. I've got
[1:43:23] >> Last but not least,
[1:43:24] >> I've got nothing. All right. I don't
[1:43:26] have anything either.
[1:43:28] So, meeting ajourned.
[1:43:31] Brett Kylie usually leaves us with some
[1:43:34] words of wisdom or a poem or
[1:43:40] » something.
[1:43:41] >> Nobody told me that was part of the
[1:43:42] deal. So, you're just gonna have to go
[1:43:44] without this this month.
[1:43:48] » We'll make something up.
[1:43:51] >> Thank you for joining us tonight. I
[1:43:53] appreciate it.
[1:43:54] >> Yeah. You all have a nice evening.
[1:43:56] >> All right. Thank you.
[1:43:57] >> Bye.
[1:43:58] >> All right. You guys are getting