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Good afternoon everybody and thank you
very much for making the time to attend

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this afternoon.
Pursuant to section 131 of the community

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charter,
I'm bringing forward for council's

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reconsiderations decision regarding
Highland Zoning bylaw number 100. But

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before I get into that, I'm going to
start the call the meeting to order and

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acknowledge we're meeting in the
traditional territories of Laquangan

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welcome to share their comments during
the petitions and delegations of the

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meeting either in person or
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and receive the Zoom information the
public was asked to request to speak

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through the meeting portal. So far, Mr.
Scott Richardson has registered to speak

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and is attending via Zoom. And also, I
believe uh we've had an indication that

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Karen Burns will also be attending. I
thought in person, but

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hopefully uh she comes in person. If
not, maybe she'll be online.

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Anyways, with those additions, I look
for approval of the agenda. Moved by

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councelor Singh, second by councelor
Anderson. All those in favor opposed,

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none opposed. That carries. All right.
And so if we have our first speaker,

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that would be Mr. Richardson. Welcome.

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» Thank you, Ken. Mayor, uh, council. Um,
first off, oh man, look at you guys back

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at it. Um,
this has been a really long, incredibly

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long, excruciating journey both for you
and staff. I can't see staff, but I'm

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quite sure they're there. Um, and uh, I
just well, I appreciate all that you've

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put into trying to get this right. Um,
uh, so I wanted to say that at the

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outset. Um I also wanted just to reflect
on the fact that really the consensus in

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the community
um just for context was to reroute all

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of these properties.

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That was the consensus and over
uh several months what emerged was what

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I would call a compromise significant
compromise.

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um
to do something called regenerative

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development. The main feature of which
uh as it's explained in the

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uh in the documents is net positive.

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Um so I think it's just useful to say
reing was plan A. Um plan B a great

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compromise but if it is not doable
there's always plan A.

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Um now having said that I don't want to
press that point. Uh

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I um
I although I do note that there was some

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I think there was some mention of
assessment values. Um there's no assess

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assessment value offered for rewed
Milstream Meadows. Um, but

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related to that, I guess I had a
question

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because I wasn't I was curious. I wasn't
sure how to

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how do property assessment values
factor in decisions related to this

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bylaw
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uh I think there was some suggestion
that the property could even be a a chip

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in um treaty negotiations. So, uh, I'm
at a lo complete loss as to how th that

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those relate or are relevant. Uh, it's
not your job to answer every curiosity

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or question I have, but I just sort of
thought I'd mention that in passing. And

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again, I'd like to end with really a big
note of appreciation

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looking at the sunny day outside and all
the other things you guys could be

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doing. Um, so thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

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Do we have uh Karen Burns available?
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she did send a written submission
earlier today that was circulated to

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council regarding the bylaw. Um her
written submission will be appended to

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the agenda for um the public record, but
council has received it.

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» All right. Thank you.

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So going on with 3.1,
the bylaw would establish the proposed

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general commercial industrial
regenerative development M1 RD and

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medium commercial industrial
regenerative development M2RD zones and

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apply the M1RD zone to 1965 Milstream
Road, Milstream Meadows. The

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recommendation before council was that
the bylaw be given first and second

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readings. This reconsideration is to
provide council with an opportunity to

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further reflect on the matter in light
of the significant work undertaken to

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date. The direction previously provided
by council and the broader policy

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context established through the official
community plan and South Highland's

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local area plan processes.
Council previously directed that zoning

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amendment be prepared, that a public
hearing be scheduled, and that an open

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house be held to gather public feedback
on the proposed zones and resoning.

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The proposed bylaw represents the
culmination of the resoning application

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and the incorporation of the South
Highlands local area plan into the into

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the official community plan.
Reconsideration would not enact the

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proposed bylaw. Rather, it would allow
council to revisit the matter and

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determine whether the bylaw should
proceed through the legislative process,

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including a public hearing and further
consideration. Given the length of time,

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this application has been active. The
public engagement undertaken to date and

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the policy direction previously
established by council. I believe it is

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appropriate to provide council with an
additional opportunity to consider

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whether the proposed proposed bylaw
should advance to the next stage.

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All right. When considering this, I know
also we have Quinn Dailyaly from the CRD

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uh available soon. So um I believe my
briefing portion is finished and I am

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going to go on to 3.2 now. And this is
where the highlighting zone bylaw um be

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considered. And I have some more
comments to add right now. And one of

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them is that people um this does not
what Schlap did made a recommendation

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and we all appreciate that hard work and
we all appreciate the consultation but

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this is not a a departure from the
schlap recommendations because on the

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schlap recommendations itself it showed
properties that had commercial and

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industrial buildings on it and these
were acceptable. The slot

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recommendations were very high high they
they encompassed a broad array of ideas

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for this area. Now, what's come to light
that didn't happen before was that there

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have been several
inquiries by the by the CRD and others

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that this property the property 1965
Milstream thing has their property

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values have been affected from the
original plan from the original zoning

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potential of commercial and industrial
to the point now where the property

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values are lowered by in one case 66% %
in another case 90% somewhere that's

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pretty and I want to ask council if
their own properties were devalued 60%

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or 99%.
Now, how would that feel? You know, and

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this is something that is an actual
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So, what we want to do is we look at
that. We have the three pillars that we

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have economic, social, and financial.
So, we're going off the start here with

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a actual very negative
economic potential, a net negative

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potential of this loss of potential
property value. And it's something that

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directly affects and it's why when I
talk to CRD directors and staff that

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they are concerned they're concerned
about this and what we can do is I want

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to explain that the schlap allows this
kind of thing. It it's already in the in

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in the report. That's what we'd like to
engage. I think council always planned

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to engage and to put these kind of
things into our OCP um and as a as a

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zoning and by no way does this affect
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things that can happen there and like I
say I appreciate all the work and all

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the consultation but what we want to do
is be able to market this property at a

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value that a you know corrects what's
happened to the property valuations. So

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what'll happen here is we can bring
bring the marketability up to what I

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believe would be a more fair market
value. That would be a win for our our

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good friends and neighbors and
neighboring municipalities who have

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spent a lot of taxpayers dollars as
Highlands also has spent a lot of

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taxpayers dollars on this remediation.
So, this would give it a chance to, you

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know, to recover some of those funds and
it's really still fitting within uh the

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reports and the comments from the
Schlatt group that uh that the council

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has embraced. Um, all we want is a fair
hearing on this. All we want is to I

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think the public weigh on it because I
think that that fact that's kind of a

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bit of a new information and it kind of
surprised me when I heard of this

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devaluation. I'm sure it surprised
everybody, but I think we can correct

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this. And an easy way to do it is to
continue the process that we we started

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here. And I think we should continue
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um it's a bit of maybe a confusion of
what what's there right now that and

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it's we've have that potential to to
correct that confusion. If we can make

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that clear to people so that the our
property values are fair property

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values, then I think it'll be a win-win
for the CRD and the people who funded

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this. It'll be a win-win for Highlands
taxpayers and we haven't lost anything

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on the all the other fine points of of
uh climate mitigation and the

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environment because they're all still
intact and all still there. And uh as

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you as councils wear aware well well
that time there are time considerations

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here and so I really appreciate your
help with this.

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That's what I have to say and uh I don't
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council Anderson. I don't have the uh
the special device

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staff will help me there.

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We're just pausing a sec to get our
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There we go.
>> There we go. Councelor Henderson, you're

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online.
>> Uh, thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. And

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I have a question that I expect is
through the mayor to staff, if I may.

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Just a process question because we don't
um have the benefit of entertaining

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reconsideration very often. Um and my
question is are there any constraints

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that we should be aware of about what
what is involved in any reconsideration

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discussion? So for example um prior to
putting any motion on the floor, can we

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engage in questions or some
brainstorming? Uh are we restricted to

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the motion that we we spoke to last
time? Are there any any elements like

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that that we should be aware of before
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So, the motion that you're considering
under the reconsideration is the one on

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the agenda, which also includes the
amendment that um was um approved by

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council, and that's what um you should
be considering tonight or today. Um but

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you can still make amendments to the
motion that's on the table. Um or you

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can make other motions.

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» Right. Just a question. Council Mlean.
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so I'm sorry. Are we being limited to
questions to staff right now?

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» We can go questions, but the the
motion's going to be there for

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consideration. Questions can be first.
Sure.

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» Well,
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actually, I'd like to make some points.
Um so going through the um survey again

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today which was the recent survey for
the open house that the district held on

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July 22nd 2026 evening.
Um although there was only nine people

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in attendance staff reports and only
eight people completed survey responses

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which is of course a small snap snapshot
but however um I uh value their um

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efforts and uh opinions and um what
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um of uh importance to them as as the
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um
was not uh much support towards local

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jobs, recycling and circular economic
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Um and none of the eight respondents had
remediation cost recovery as a matter of

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import of importance to them.
So, and uh also out of the survey when

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considering future uses in the
regenerative development area, um this

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the uh respondents
uh indicated

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of course their residents that um
they're still looking for the net

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positive impacts as set out in the
Highlands official community plan with a

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reputable means for measurement.
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» Pardon me. And um there out of the
survey there appears to be a a a

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preference for uh possible uh commercial
development over low-end industrial

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parks.
um as well as there was from my

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perspective and my read low support for
the questions specific to composting and

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recycling facilities as well as aerobic
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So, and there were additional
um negative comments on using the word

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industrial
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for the
for lands in the South Highlands.

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So, I just wanted to um uh resurrect
that that has for me that has some

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influence. And then we have some
correspondence from some residents

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today. one of them. Mr. Scott Richardson
was a member of the South Highlands

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Local Area Plan Task Force. Um,
uh, Karen Burns was not,

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uh, she provided some input as well. I
appreciate that that input and the time.

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[laughter] and uh councelor Anderson as
we know is the

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» [clears throat]
>> um council liaison to uh the South

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Highlands local area plan and I was the
uh alternate for council and we all

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attended uh [clears throat] both of us
all attended the meetings and read the

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material and um I as I indicated before
I read all the comments

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uh the survey
um which were quite high um I think

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there was close to 300 uh
surveys that were completed out of that

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uh exercise for the South Highlands
local area plan.

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So, um I find this to be
a bit of a

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conundrum and um
I guess I too would perhaps would like

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to know from the province
what what the hurry is on on this

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because from it's my understanding it's
the province of BC that is uh pushing

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the District of Highlands
and perhaps the capital regional

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district staff to come to some
resolution on the property known as 1965

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Milstream Road. So I I don't know
exactly why and I think it would be

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respectful and appropriate for the
province to provide us with that

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information. Albeit that I realize that
um perhaps the pro province doesn't

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particularly care too much uh of the
Highlands needs. I don't know. But um

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anyway, so I just wanted to make those
uh comments because I bothered to write

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them up today. Thank you.
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All right. Uh I'm just going to ask
staff do do uh for the motion for

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reconsideration does have to be restated
now or is it just fine the way it is on

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the paper?
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restate it.
>> So whoever's whoever's moving some does

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someone want to move it and state it?
>> Yeah. And if if there are no further

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questions I would like to move it.
Have another question.

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» Yes. [snorts]
>> Go ahead. customer.

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» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, yes, I do have
a question through to staff um just

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regarding um
um the fact that um today in the

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Goldstream Gazette, there is a
advertisement

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posted for the public hearing on
September 8th for 1965 Milstream

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Property regarding the reszoning. And
I'm just very curious as to why that has

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moved ahead when um it wasn't
necessarily known at the time that um

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council was going to um support staff's
recommendation or not. Thank you.

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So, um, at a previous meeting, council
did, um, indicate that they stated the

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date would be, um, September 8th for a
public hearing. Um, to be able to meet

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the legislative advertising
requirements, it would have needed to be

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in this paper and the following paper.
And to get it into the paper, we have to

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have it um to them by Friday morning
prior to like Friday last week. So, we

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put it in hoping that um we could cancel
it in time, but it was not an option. It

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had to be cancelled by noon on Monday.
Um and so we will be putting if it does

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not go forward to public hearing, we'll
be putting an advertisement in the paper

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indicating that it has been cancelled in
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Yes.
>> Yes. It was council resol res resolution

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um to hold a public hearing
>> on September 8th.

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» All right. Any questions? Seeing none, I
I will make that motion. And that

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Highlands winning bylaw number 100 1998
amendments number 49 M1 RD M2RD 1965

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Milstream Road bylaw number 488 2026 be
given first and second readings as

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amended to add industrial uses within
the zone shall exclude wrecking and

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salvaging operations to six section
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to one of schedule B to bylaw 488.
That's the motion. Do I have a seconder?

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Gord.
>> Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, don't

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see a seconder.
So, I would like to propose a motion

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arising from this topic
and uh I've written one out and I'll

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pass it out to all the individuals uh
because it's got a couple bits and

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pieces of components and it's easier to
have in front of you when I read it out.

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So, I'm just going to
pass it out and I will read it.

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So, the motion
is that staff be directed to write to

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the Capital Regional District advise
that council would welcome a new

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resoning application for 1965 Milstream
Road prepared and submitted by the

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Capital Regional District as owner and
to convey A the following considerations

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for council's benefit in addressing such
an application. A that the zone be

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crafted by the applicant drawing on the
South Highlands local area plan, the

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regenerative development designation,
development permit area 4, and the

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community input received through the
process to date.

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B. That the application include
measurable performance metrics

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addressing some or all of water, waste,
storm water, energy, carbon, and ecology

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habitat.
C. that the metrics need not meet a full

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regenerative development standard in
every category, but that one or more

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metrics be demonstrabably net positive
against the stated baseline as per date

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of as per stated baseline as per date of
the certificate of compliance.

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D. All rain water and storm water
falling on the site be used on site with

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any excess being used to support
ecological flows.

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E. The application may identify a
community amenity offered voluntarily by

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the applicant in support of the
application.

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F that the application
identify for each proposed metric the

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instrument for which it would be made
enforceable either through zone text

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amended DP permit area guidelines under
section 490 and 491 of the local

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government act and that council confirm
that it will receive such an application

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and that any reapplication interval
under the district's development

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application procedures be waved for this
purpose.

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So, I'm hoping that might be seconded.
>> Oh, thanks.

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» Thanks. I'm going to speak to it.

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So, I think that Mr. Richardson spoke
about his appreciation of all the work

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that's gone into this so far. And I want
to start with something that I mean

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quite sincerely that the CRD is an
exceptional organization with

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exceptional staff. I've had the
privilege of working alongside them for

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12 years. Nothing I'm about to say is a
criticism of them.

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And let me concede the obvious that this
isn't the outcome anyone at this table

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wanted. Uh we've put real time into
this.

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But here we are. There is no assessment
tool. And even though the tool and even

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if the tool existed, there is no
development in front of us to assess it.

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It's kind of like being asked to build a
lock before anyone has shown us the

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door. It's a big ask when frankly we
have more limited capacity and resources

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in relation to what the CRD has to draw
upon.

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It's worth remembering how we got here.
When this first came forward, it was

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bundled alongside a proposal this
community had deep concerns about. The

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adjoining application was denied. This
one was placed in hold. And when this

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community was carrying the weight of the
provincial process for the neighboring

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property, we had asked for a letter of
support. It came, but it came after the

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commenting window had closed. Our
community did that work alone and we

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paid for it alone. And out of that came
the task force and out of the task force

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came slap the very plan that we're
working from today.

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But the question I put to us is is
simply whose application is it? The CRD

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owns the land. The CRD knows what it
intends to do with it and understands

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the constraints on it better than
anyone. The CRD has the planning staff,

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the ecological environmental staff, and
the engineering staff resources that we

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just don't have.
What I'm proposing cost the district

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nothing but a letter. It asks the owner
to come forward with a zone drawing from

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the work we are we've already done with
real numbers on water, stom water,

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energy, carbon, waste, ecology, habitat.
at least one of them net positive with

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particular attention tied to water
staying on site and used to support

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ecological flows and with an
understanding that if an amenity were

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voluntarily offered the community would
consider it and I don't think that's a

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door closing I think it's an invitation
and I think it's the right one to extend

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and I would hope that I can gain the
support of council for this

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Councelor Rousley,
>> thank you. Um, I would support this

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motion. I think that's a good solution
and and I would ask through the mayor to

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staff whether they have I know this is
short notice, but whether they have had

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a chance to consider uh this motion and
whether they have any response. Thank

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you.

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» Through the mayor. Um, I think it's a
sound motion. Um,

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it it it doesn't talk about uh covenant.
I I'm not sure. I can't I apologize that

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I don't know off my off the top of my
head what 490 and 491.

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» Okay. So, so I think that was the an
important factor that um the CRD

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mentioned. Um,

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yeah, I I think it's a sound motion.
>> Thank you. I I appreciate that response

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and and I'm going to ask if if there
were to Amanda, please, if there were

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any um [clears throat] legal flags in
the motion, whether whether anything in

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that sort of perk perked your legal
ears. Thank you.

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Um, I don't see anything
off the top of my head without looking

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at it closer um that it wouldn't um
there would be any legal red flags or

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anything like that.
>> Once again to to our planner. Thank you.

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» So through the mayor again um that the
zone be crafted by the applicant. I

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would I would caution on that. Um that's
something the district should do. Uh we

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always ask an applicant to review a zone
once we've put it together. Um because

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it's their it's their land. We want it
to be what we need it to be. So I think

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uh director to write to would welcome a
new resoning application prepared and

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submitted to convey the following
considerations. So um that's the only

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comment I would make that I I would not
I would not expect an applicant to draft

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a zone for us. Sometimes it's helpful um
but it wouldn't be an expectation

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» and and so would it be more uh would it
be uh better to say that a zoning

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application be drafted by the applicant
>> or the proposal

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» a proposal
>> that the proposal be crafted by the

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applicant.
>> Okay. Well, with that with that a I

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would make that amendment then that the
that the zone be propo that the proposal

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by the applicant drawing etc rather than
the zone be crafted.

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[snorts]
Now we have a second.

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Okay. Discussion on the amendment
Charlie

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Mlan.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, can I could just

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get uh clarification on which uh
[snorts]

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letter of the alphabet uh councelor
Rousing is speaking to?

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» I'm talking to the A section of the
motion that begins. Okay.

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» That the zone be crafted that a
proposal. That's

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» all you need to say is a
Um,

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so this is just on the amendment. So I
um I will leave my uh comments for now.

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However, I will say I guess um I will
say um I have spoken to this in the past

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at this council table. I had queried why
aren't we letting the capital regional

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district submit their own resoning
application and proposal

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um and and see what they come up with
and um

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so I'll leave it at that in respect to
the amendment. Thank you.

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» I don't see any other speakers. So I'll
take a vote on the amendment. All those

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in favor
opposed and none opposed. That carries

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on to back to the main motion. As do we
have any other speakers on this?

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Councelor Anderson.
>> Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I first I

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just want to say thank you um councelor
B for taking the time. Presumably it

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took quite a bit to put this together. I
mean, I've been struggling with wanting

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to find some way that sounded like a
path forward and I I wasn't really

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coming up with much that felt helpful.
So, I think this is an interesting

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approach and I think it's one really one
that that makes some sense to to

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certainly consider. Um, I'm just I'm
curious if I could have a question

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through to staff from a process
perspective then. Um would this mean

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that we would be waiting for uh the CRD
presuming they would be willing to do

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this which we don't know for sure but um
would we just then be in a position of

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waiting for them to bring something
forward.

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» So through the mayor yes
>> thank you. Uh yeah, I'm in support of

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this. The the most robust response I've
seen so far that that helps us um

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continue to move this forward because
I'm not interested in standing in the

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way of this. It's just we need some way
to do it in in a fashion that allows us

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to actually,
you know, articulate what's going on

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through the South Island local area
plan. And we were we're like a lot of

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that work has been done and I'm glad
it's referenced here. Um so maybe maybe

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this is a strong a strong suggestion.
sourcing.

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» Thank you. My light's still on. Yeah, I
I think we've been floundering a bit uh

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just because of unknowns and and to look
at a proposal seems to me a lot easier

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than to try and create a proposal out of
thin air. So, uh, I I think it's I think

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it's a great solution and it it gives us
I doubt I doubt this council will see

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it, but uh it it gives us something to
which to react rather than to create our

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own. I hope it I hope it relieves our
staff of some of some pressure and uh

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and uh some some discomfort. So, so, uh,
I'm I'm glad to throw this over to

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Cardi.

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» Quiet.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, um I would um

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actually like to get um confirmation as
to who actually owns this property

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because I uh one of the CRD staff at a
previous meeting uh here with council

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and staff um indicated that um the CRD
does not own the property fee simple.

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And so I really don't know who the
register owner is. I know approximately

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1985
the province

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turned it turned it over I've looked at
the wording it doesn't get very explicit

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they turned it over to the capital
regional district and um so just so we

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know who we're waiting to hear from if
if if we could um have that clarified I

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think that would be helpful thank you
through the chair to staff or whoever

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can answer that in the very near future.
Thank you.

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» I I would suggest uh Mr. Dailyaly is
probably the best person to answer that

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question.
>> Fine with the uh council accept that.

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» Okay, Mr. Daly.
>> Uh thanks very much. Um yeah, and thanks

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for the question. It is through the
mayor. Uh it it is uh a somewhat

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complicated answer, so I apologize that
I can't to say uh yes or no. Um the the

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land was transferred to the CRD through
what's called a sponsored crown grant uh

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with a reverter clause on the title. So
if you actually go into the um the

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torrent system and look at the legal uh
description and and standing of this

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this property, it does say CRD is the
owner. It also has a notation that if

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it's not being used for septic lagoon
purposes that the province has the right

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to revert it back to crown land status.
So that is where the ambiguity in

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ownership is coming from. We we do not
own the full package of of rights uh

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that we would under a normal fee simple
ownership model. We for example could

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not um move forward any with any um
anything that's going to impact the

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title without the province accepting
that uh um that at that action. Um

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similarly with resoning we will have to
uh with an application for resoning we

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will have to receive um uh compliance
from or sorry confirmation from the

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province that they will allow us to make
that application if we do decide to go

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down that path.

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» Thank you for that. And as we've just
found out, the CRD isn't

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responsible for all the zoning decisions
on this and that it would require the uh

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participation of the province for this.
So in that sense, the motion uh fails

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from that point of view because it's
just going to half half the owner. So we

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can't uh cause that uh discrepancy to
allow that to go forward for us.

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Go ahead, councelor Baron. Yeah, thank
you, Mr. Mayor. Um, the the

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determination of that uh to me sort of
fails the test because it was the CRD

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that originally brought the very first
resoning.

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» So, if that was the case, the CRD would
be very well aware that they have that

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opportunity. So, I think that that uh
discussion point as to this motion

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failing uh doesn't uh doesn't stand.

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» I'd pose that question to Mr. Daly.
Um yeah, I would say that we are able to

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take the uh take the the request
forward. It's just the final

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determination would require input from
the from the province. So what um what

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is going to happen is if we put in a
resoning application um then we will

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have to reach out to the province and
receive permission and we have we did do

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that with the 2015 uh resoning
application and did receive approval at

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that time.
>> Thank you councelor.

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» Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um after 12 years
of sitting on the climate action

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intermunicipal task force, there were a
lot of conversations about obviously

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climate change adaptation, mitigation
uh through economic

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uh social and uh habitat,
you know, nature-based uh type lenses.

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uh 12 years of it. In fact, there's a
lot of discussion on that and I know

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that the CRD has an incredible um team
of people with expertise in all of these

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different areas that uh could
potentially put something together. um

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whether or not a proposal put together
by the CRD would be uh entertained by

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probably the next council at this point.
Who knows how fast they could do it, but

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uh uh would be yet to be determined, but
at this point I I think it's a good step

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forward for uh at least this item not
just dying on the table. So I will

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support this motion. Any

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further discussion by members of
council?

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All right, I'll call the question. All
those in favor?

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Opposed? None opposed. That carries.
Thank you. I look for adjournment.

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All those in favor? Oppos? Not opposed.
That carries.