[3:25] Yeah, [3:28] like to call the meeting to order and [3:36] have a flight [3:41] to the flag of the United States of America [3:47] stands one nation. God indivisible. [3:59] » Okay. >> Reminders before we get going, please [4:02] state your name and title when you first begin speaking. Public comment will be [4:05] allowed to the extent that it's on topic. Persons participating via Zoom [4:09] are currently muted. If you have a comment, then please let [4:13] Mark know via the chat function. Mark will then inform Chairman Trinkle to [4:17] take up the comment in a manner that doesn't disrupt the agenda. And if an [4:20] executive session is needed, then we'll mute, turn off the video, and when we're [4:24] done, we'll turn everything back on. >> You guys want to come on up? [4:28] » Sure. Sure. [4:38] » I've just got here just basically what we're going to talk about. Just a [4:41] something for you to keep as well. [4:49] Thank you. >> Thank you for your time. Thank you for [4:53] having us today. We appreciate it. Appreciate you. We'll be brief but to [4:57] the point. Uh we want to tell you a little bit about pooling. I'm Colin Holt [5:00] House. Uh I'm the COO and staff council at Kwork. Our offices are out at Topeka. [5:06] » And I'm I'm Monty Parish. Uh I am a safety consultant for Kwork. [5:11] And if we reference some of the page numbers are in the upper right so it [5:15] makes it easy to follow along but um just a little bit about Kwork. What is [5:19] Kwork? Um we're a pool an insurance self-funded pool. Uh we all KW work does [5:26] is work comp. We're only on the work comp side. um established in the early [5:31] 90s uh under the Kansas Municipal Group Funded Pool Act and there's a number for [5:36] the statute there. Um dedicated to exclusively Kansas counties. So our [5:42] membership consists of 88 Kansas counties. Um we we threw in our picture [5:48] there. That's us with KAC and KAMP at our annual picnic. First annual picnic. [5:54] And uh of course KA camp is is a sister pool that does property and casualty and [5:59] then KAC is a Kansas association of counties that have the conference in [6:03] December every year. Uh phase three um KWorks county owned uh owned and [6:09] directed by the members through an elected board of trustees. So you can't [6:14] you can't really get more local than it being the counties themselves. Um, it's [6:19] administrated uh by administered by my boss, Jim Parish. And then that's me [6:24] under there, Colin. And uh Nicole uh Jarbo Paxton, she does all of our [6:30] underwriting back at the office. And Brandon Man is our environmental safe [6:36] safety and health VP that uh supervises our board safety consulting. [6:42] Page four, we've got a nice little map here. The way the the membership runs [6:47] with the board of trustees for Kamp is uh you could think of it the state [6:52] busted up into a quadrant uh and there's there's four from each region and then [6:57] there's three trustees that are elected at large. So that we try to get, you [7:02] know, good membership or uh representation across the whole state. [7:07] Uh and here on page five, if you want to flip over to the next one, you'll see [7:10] the the pink counties and the and the little bit darker almost like a red [7:14] counties. the the uh those are the counties that are under KWwork. The [7:19] darker red is where uh our trustees are currently located. Um a lot of the ones [7:25] that you'll even see there in white are mostly uh for the most part a lot of the [7:29] bigger counties that self-insure and and don't need a service uh or or couldn't [7:34] use a service like Kwork um because uh they do self-insure which is good for [7:38] them. It's wonderful. Um the uh as you see most of the state is with us and [7:46] then and uh you got a lot of people around you that are your neighbors. If [7:49] you wanted to talk to somebody sort of about what it's like to be with Kwork [7:53] and you didn't have to hear it from a person who works for Kwork, you could [7:56] talk to some of your neighbors if you'd like and and uh see what it's like with [7:59] us. Uh on the next page is just [8:10] » Oh, I mean on the next page >> on page five [8:13] » that >> in the yellow line. [8:15] » Yeah, that's a typo on the top part of that yellow over McFersonen. It should [8:20] Thank you for pointing that out. We'll get it fixed. It it should go over and [8:24] up. >> Oh yeah. Sorry. My my fault. I see what [8:28] you're asking about now. >> You're like, why did they get circled [8:34] in? >> Sound like a gold star. [8:36] » What do we have to do to get >> Yeah. Uh on page six, all that is is it [8:41] just an easier alphabetical way for you to look at everybody who's under us. [8:45] There's also a few other um we have like, you know, an airport authority and [8:49] a few other things other than some counties um that we also cut. [8:54] » All right. over on page seven. >> Um, Kwork by the members being the pool [9:00] themselves, uh, it's it's as local as you could keep u the the, uh, workers [9:06] comp insurance. So, like a traditional market insurance company pays a an agent [9:11] a commission. We have salaries, of course, but we don't pay commissions. [9:15] the the funds and the profits and the revenue stays in the pool and those [9:19] trustees decide, you know, how and where it's it's going to be spent for the most [9:24] part. But a lot of times what'll happen is if you're trying to keep the business [9:28] local or a county says they want to keep business local, they might keep a [9:32] certain slice of the pie, like a small 10% or so. That that is the the [9:38] insurance uh agents commission, but a good 90% of the profits and revenues [9:43] will likely go to some large uh insurance company out of state often. [9:47] And the pool, we love to keep the money in Kansas working for Kansas counties. [9:55] And there's our trustees. Just in case you see any familiar faces or um any [10:00] neighbors, we got S on the top left Sandy Barton, Stanton County Clerk. Then [10:06] Wayne Wilk is our president. Tally County Commissioner and Julie Dunl is [10:12] from Jefferson County. She's our uh VP. And then there's Chelsea Schmidt from [10:18] Morris County. She's a clerk and then she serves as KWworks controller. [10:23] Mike Cleveland's a commissioner from Cloud County, serves as the secretary. [10:28] George Pretz is uh from Miami County and Stan Makavoys from Decar County. He's a [10:34] commissioner as well. Those uh com commissioners compose four [10:41] different uh committees and they meet quarterly. The uh the trustees meet once [10:47] a month, but the committees will meet quarterly. And personnel committee goes [10:52] over and reviews staff personnel issues or things related to staff personnel. [10:57] The investment committee what it sounds like it it manages the finances of the [11:02] pool and makes recommendations for the rest of the trustees to vote on [11:06] regarding the the dollar signs part of it. Uh the audit committee oversees the [11:11] the annual audit that a third party conducts for us just to make sure all [11:15] the paperwork and financial documents and everything are are squared away. And [11:20] then we have a nominating committee as well. Um, just so there is a a method [11:26] and a forum for nominating new trustee members because just like anything it [11:32] churns and revolves every so often and you always want to have good people that [11:36] are interested in possibly serving someday and know who those know who [11:40] those folks are. Um, on page 10 we've got that's the whole Kwork team, the [11:46] staff. Jim up there on the top left, that's me of course. Uh that's Brandon [11:51] Man um our senior VP for environmental health and safety. That's Nicole um our [11:57] VP for underwriting. Then on the bottom you have four gentlemen [12:03] uh that all report to Brandon. You've got Monty, Andy Brooks, uh Sean Harold, [12:09] and Ben Wner. They're all environmental uh safety and health uh consultants, and [12:15] they travel they travel the state all all the time, week in and week out. uh [12:20] putting on some trainings and different things that Monty will tell you about [12:22] here shortly. Um but it's Kwork is a partnership and we're there to provide [12:28] services for the counties um for free with their membership policy and um [12:36] they're all aimed at keeping workers safe and helping reduce claims severity [12:40] and frequency um which nobody wants to see anybody get hurt. So, but we have a [12:45] lot of programs that help assist with that. [12:47] » We do. We do. Um, on the next page, this is just the guys again, but we like to [12:51] put the health and safety team sort of by themselves so you get an idea of [12:55] especially the guy up top there, Brandon. Um, you know, if you were to be [12:58] a part of Kwork, he's our boss and he's always out following around what we're [13:02] doing checking in on counties. So, it's not just us. Um, but the other guys, uh, [13:07] we we have the whole state split. So, each of us have around 22 counties, uh, [13:11] 21 22 counties. And, um, I am the gentleman in your area. Um, so if you [13:17] got to got with KWork, you would be hanging out with me. Um, over on the [13:21] next page, I really was where I'll talk to you a little bit about what why you [13:24] get uh services from KW, what what environmental health and safety as it [13:29] pertains to Kwork does for you as a service. So these safety trainings um [13:34] that are down here on this page. So our defensive driving course uh the forklift [13:39] uh safety and the road and bridge uh safety uh those are some certification [13:43] classes. So, like the defensive driving, we can come out and we teach that to [13:47] anybody in the county that wants to. Um, the forklift safety horse is a good one [13:52] because the Kansas Department of Labor likes to see forklift certifications. If [13:57] they come walking into one of your buildings, they want to see those cards. [14:00] Well, the what you get from Kwork uh supply, you know, uh uh [14:06] is is enough is what will pass. And then we have uh the road and bridge safety. [14:11] we can really tailor safety presentations to issues in your county. [14:15] Um, so we have the general ones that we do, but if you were to call me and tell [14:19] me that you're having issues with certain things, can you please come out [14:22] and talk about this? Or we want to really talk about workplace safety and [14:26] so we'll do work ergonomics and all those things for like an office [14:30] building. We can do all that stuff too. So we have our base of what we teach, [14:34] which is those three courses and then lots of other uh things that are [14:37] available to you. Um I we have written there that KDOL compliance that's that's [14:42] why that's there for the forklift certification. Um if you've got the [14:47] Department of Labor getting ready to come out uh and they give you a call you [14:51] can call me and I'll come out and I'll do a walk through before the Kansas [14:55] Department of Labor comes through. And so hopefully we catch a few things [14:59] before they do before they come tack you over the head. Right? So, think of if [15:04] you were to come with Kwork, think of the environmental health and safety team [15:06] and somebody like me as a service for you. Okay? I'm not going to be trying to [15:10] give you work. I'm going to come try to, you know, give you a give you a hand. On [15:14] the next page here, u it kind of just gives a little uh a few more [15:19] descriptions of the other things we do. So, our our services that we [15:22] specifically do is I'm going to be in your county or whoever you were to have [15:26] would be in your county at a minimum three times a year to come through and [15:29] do building inspections for you. Um, we also will do any of that safety [15:34] training. Uh, all of the visits, all the safety training are all at no extra [15:39] cost. These are all services that are just part of your membership with K. Um, [15:43] at the bottom there, these are other things that we do to try to really [15:47] actually bring down injuries and try to bring down costs for your county. So, [15:53] helping you organize whether you have the um staff to have a designated safety [15:58] coordinator. Not everybody does, but what most counties do have the ability [16:02] to do is at least get a safety committee together. And what a safety committee [16:06] can do is do two things. We can be unfortunately we're going to have to [16:11] react to some things, but we can also be proactive to things that are happening. [16:14] So they meet monthly, discuss injuries, maybe we look at what's been going on. [16:20] What do we need to focus on? You know, maybe it's seat belts. Maybe it's we're [16:24] jumping out of the backs of beds of trucks and turning knees. let's let's [16:27] stop doing that. Just different stuff like that. Um and then at the bottom, uh [16:33] we we'll come out and do safety meetings with your folks too, you know, as [16:37] getting something like that started takes time. Um and a lot of times they [16:41] already have a lot to do and so they're like, "You're [16:45] just giving me more work and I already am under it." Well, I'll come out and [16:50] help you get it started and get it going because the idea is something like the [16:53] safety committee when it runs. I don't need your department heads to be in [16:57] charge of that. They're already in charge of too much. But somebody that [16:59] they trust right under him, whether it's the health department or the road [17:03] bridge, that's the person that we're looking for. Somebody that you trust, [17:07] somebody that you like that that has the best intentions uh of your county [17:10] department. So, that's a good little overview on what the environmental [17:13] health and safety team does. >> Okay. Just a few more things here we'd [17:17] like to tell you about. There are some sidebar uh benefits on page 14. We've [17:22] Kwork has some scholarships. So one is called poet post offer employment [17:27] testing where K work pays up to $75 or half the cost of depending depending on [17:34] the overall cost of the testing uh of the POE testing. So um post offer [17:40] employment testing, it's good to know and get an assessment. uh Kansas Jail [17:44] Training. We provide $250 each for up to three employees per member county to [17:50] attend the Kansas Jail Training Academy and the Kansas Jail Association [17:55] Supervisory Training. Uh that's per county per year. And then another one is [17:59] the Kansas Sheriff's Association jail training scholarship um which covers [18:05] it's an affiliated training support specifically targeted at environmental [18:09] health and safety and operational risk as they relate to a sheriff's [18:13] department. Now on the 15th slide here I mentioned uh the trustees have monthly [18:20] meetings. Um it's all about accountability um and integrity. [18:26] Uh all financial transactions are reported and the the board reviews the [18:30] financials much like many not forprofit that you see that runs um with a board. [18:36] Checks over $10,000 must be co-signed by a trustee and the executive director. [18:41] So, anytime a lot of money is being spent, it's definitely being looked [18:44] over. >> Uh, we have a thirdparty claims review [18:47] company I'll I'll tell you a little bit about in a minute. They're called [18:50] Mariner. Um, loss prevention review. Um, Kwork staff does that as well as as [18:57] Mariner. And then the quarterly financials and a claims report uh are [19:02] always made available to members, but uh members will find those claims reports [19:07] helpful a lot of times because you tend to see trends in certain areas. And just [19:11] like Bonnie said, if everybody's getting hurt doing something similar, it' be a [19:14] good thing to probably train on that. And then uh he mentioned the three times [19:19] a year regular meetings and inspections. Um but they'll also come out anytime [19:24] anytime you have something where you need a custom tailor. they just need a [19:27] little bit of a heads up >> and really and truly that is exactly how [19:30] we work. Come out anytime. >> Uh slide 16 a little bit more on on [19:35] Kwork. Um we carry a a specific excess and aggregate insurance. So it's called [19:41] Safety National is the company we get that through and any claims that go over [19:46] 850,000 the [snorts] secondary insurance through [19:49] Safety National kicks in and and starts paying for it. Um that's that's just [19:53] another way of protecting member counties from catastrophic claims that [19:57] are very high like that. Uh and then on the bottom that last bullet is just [20:02] something important to note. Um Kworks never had an assessment on the pool [20:07] since its inception in the early 90s. So um an assessment would be like an extra [20:13] fee charge levied on members um to cover some type of funding shortfalls. We [20:19] we've never had to do it and uh the financials are strong so hopefully we [20:24] never will even have to consider it. Um 17th slide, Mariner. Mariner is our [20:29] third party administrator that uh Amanda Chamberlain is their person who does [20:35] lost time injuries and Jenny Mitchell um covers medicalonly injuries and what [20:40] they do is manage those cases. They work closely with uh uh with the pool's uh [20:46] attorney and uh she they provide excellent c customer service. The whole [20:50] thing is taking care of the employee but also getting them to heal as quickly as [20:55] possible and then hopefully getting them to work as back as possible. The [21:00] statistics, the longer you stay out of work after you get hurt, the statistics [21:04] are usually not that good for a quick recovery after that. Um which makes [21:08] perfect sense. I mean, the more serious it is, the longer it takes, but they uh [21:14] they handle disposition of claims on a full and final basis. So, this is what [21:19] they're going for. So, they're constantly reviewing the boards, [21:23] reviewing our cases with them, and uh making action plans that go from there. [21:29] » Yeah, Amanda and Jenny are extremely popular um with our whoever it might be [21:33] in whatever county. It's not always the clerk's responsibility. um you know [21:37] maybe HR but they are extremely popular with our with our member counties. Um so [21:42] on the next page, page 18 here um this is a really great view of how long [21:48] people have been with Kwork. Kind of gives you an idea of people coming and [21:52] going. [clears throat] Do people really trust you? Are you Well, if you take a [21:56] look here, most of the members we have have been with us over 20 years. Um, and [22:00] so many that that come really leave because the services that you get along [22:05] with the the rates that you get is really going to be hard to find once you [22:09] get used to what Kwork does. No one else will provide that kind of stuff for you. [22:14] Um, and so, uh, we we like to give you this visual of those who have been with [22:19] us for a long time because, uh, if you want [22:23] an accounting for Kwork's record, I think it speaks for itself in a way when [22:27] you look at how how long some of those people have been there. And then you [22:30] even have look at all the charter members that have been there since the [22:33] day that Kwork, you know, came into uh, came into existence. So, uh, Kwork has [22:39] retained people because because it does what it says it will do. Okay? And [22:43] that's that's one of the main reasons why it retains so many members. This [22:47] page um I we like to leave this here because I like to remind you that Kwork [22:51] truly only exists because of its members. Um really and point it back [22:56] because if bull didn't exist, there'd be no comp no paid work. So [23:00] when Kwork is your workers comp company, you not only get a workers's [23:04] compensation company, but you also get a service. You also get somebody who's [23:08] going to come to your county, who's going to care about your county. My pops [23:12] went to community college here before he went to K State. So I mean I've got my [23:15] mom's from Cedar Veil and my dad's from Great Bend. So from out in this [23:19] direction. Um and we love Kansas. We love all the counties in Kansas. And [23:23] that's one of the main reasons why we put this page here is because we want to [23:27] remind everybody that the only reason that we're here is because of our [23:30] members. So u with that do we do we have questions so far? Uh and the test will [23:36] be in just a few moments. It's multiple choice. [23:41] » Thank you. >> Yeah. Select the best. [23:44] » Multiple answers may be correct. >> Yeah. I I know that's a ton of [23:49] information and we don't expect you necessarily to remember all of that [23:52] right off the top, but what we want to do is we want to get in your mind and we [23:55] want you to think about us when you're getting ready to go shopping, okay? [23:59] About somebody who will come out and take good care of you. [24:01] » Um I did have a question. So, um if there is a claim, how does that [24:06] » how does it work? >> Yeah, like a quick summary. you don't [24:08] have to take me through each step, but how does that flow? [24:11] » So, that's the best part about like Amanda and Jenny. Yeah. [24:13] » What we do once you come on with Kwork is they'll establish that relationship [24:17] with you in your county. >> You pick up the phone and call. [24:20] » Okay. >> Um that's the other great thing about [24:23] Kwork is like if you call our office, it's not an automated message for one, [24:28] for two. You're only looking for like nine people, you know? It's not like [24:32] there's some gigantic corporate office somewhere where there's a bunch of [24:34] people who you don't know that are running numbers and it's just a it's a [24:38] company that if you need Nicole, you can call Nicole and she'll answer the phone. [24:42] You have really good access to the underwriter, to the claims adjusters. Um [24:46] like I said, Amanda and Jenny, I mean, maybe some of the best at what they do [24:51] um that I've ever known. >> We get compliments all the time on their [24:54] communication, their promptness, getting back with people. And we've had some [24:58] members that, you know, have gone with private insurance and and struggled with [25:02] that. It was a different person every time they called or the left hand didn't [25:06] know what the right was doing. You know, it's Amanda and Jenny with us and that's [25:10] who you get and they're good. >> And what they'll do with you if you'd [25:13] like is set up a a provider. So, we have a system. So, when somebody gets [25:17] injured, we know exactly what happens. We know where they go. She knows where [25:21] they go. She has an Amanda. And so you really, she might already even know [25:25] about it if they've already been to the hospital before the stuff has even come [25:29] in. So that's the great part about it is is you're only dealing with so few [25:32] people. There's not a lot of webs going every like so claims [25:36] » just getting them like >> claims are super direct. [25:39] » Super direct. Yeah. >> And if you think of any questions as you [25:43] look stuff over, our contact information is on the cover and then the last page [25:47] in there. Um, so please feel free to reach out. And again, we thank you for [25:52] your time. Thank you for having us and letting us tell you a little bit about [25:55] pooling and Kwork. >> You guys get a percentage or a flat [25:59] rate? >> We're just We don't uh like commission [26:02] wise, we don't >> Well, I mean, what's constant? [26:06] » Oh, it's it's just a flat rate. Your your build um in December for the next [26:12] year. Gotcha. >> A premium invoice um based, you know, [26:16] largely on the county size or overall payroll and then something called your [26:22] experience mod which comes from this third party. [26:25] » Understand? >> Yeah. Yeah. And the two kind of join [26:28] together and then you get your your typical invoice in December. [26:31] » Gotcha. Yeah. >> Do you know how many counties [26:34] uh that you guys have? So we were previously with KAM and I think work [26:42] uh shortly after I think I came on went back into the market. Are most your [26:48] counties Kamk work or do you have is it not uncommon for there just to be a [26:53] Kwork and then private on the >> most of them um go with both pools. Um [26:58] they have 80 some we have 88 I want to say there [27:02] » 82 85 something right in there. um just because the same reasons um the most [27:07] competitive pricing you're going to get and great services that that uh other [27:12] insurance companies just don't provide. But they when they when we do it [27:16] together as both pools, counties often see tens of thousands or hundreds of [27:21] thousands of dollars in savings depending on the the size of the county, [27:25] » especially with the >> that's why both of them will stick [27:27] together a lot of times. >> Are they coming in? Um, [27:32] » I haven't been contacted yet, but I think he just happened to be in the area [27:36] and stopped by. >> He wanted to be in here. [27:40] » It was a paperwork nightmare for our employee. So, that's the main reason we [27:45] got rid of >> because the clerk was doing all the [27:48] paperwork and sending it to them. It It just [27:53] wasn't worth it. >> I got you. I I will say this, the the [27:56] page is turned over there. They have a new executive director, CEO as of about [28:01] eight months ago, some new team members, things. [28:05] » His name's Ken Canning, and I can put you in contact with him if you'd like. [28:08] He can call you later today if you'd like, but uh he's great. He's easy to [28:12] deal with. Uh makes himself very available. And uh so I just don't want [28:17] you to have the impression that it's the same as it was five, eight years ago. [28:21] It's not. Things have changed there, too. So, some of those are reasons why [28:24] somebody like Ken Canning is now to >> it was a it was quite the hassle. [28:32] » What's been great about the recent partnership uh with with K the working [28:36] relationship I should say is much more proper way to say it. The working [28:39] relationship with them is just wonderful with Ken. He's very involved and also [28:43] very open to us calling and saying, "Hey, we don't like this kind of thing [28:49] going on with K camp and you can call us and tell us the same thing." and he's [28:52] open to having a conversation and talking with you. It's very very nice. [28:59] » Well, thank you again. Stay >> very much for your time. [29:03] » Okay. Thank you. >> I'll send that test in uh in a few [29:07] minutes. Okay. >> Appreciate that. Thank you. [29:16] » Am I sneaking in? >> Yep. [29:18] » Okay. Well, gentlemen, I just got [29:22] uh six month about six month uh raises basically [29:28] there's six here uh yes uh a few of them are or I'm behind on a [29:35] couple of them that's why they're grouped together but [29:38] » the ruler of hand >> I I did I I missed some so um get them [29:45] caught up and then obviously the others are on time [29:51] So I'll make a motion to give Timothy Thompson his six-month raise from 17 to [29:59] 18. Joshua Small from 17 to 18. [30:07] David Sharp from 17 to 18. Brett Smith 17 to 18. [30:16] Do you get this many employees? [laughter] [30:22] [clears throat] >> Ryan Russell 1751 to 1851 [30:28] and Lucas Baldwin from 1751 to 1851. >> I'll second the motion. [30:34] » Been moved and seconded and we give the road department employees that Rick led [30:40] read off the rate that they were due for six months. All in favor say I. [30:47] » I. Oppose. Same sign. Motion carries. [31:00] » Stuck here for the next 10 years. >> Sure. Sure. [31:06] right there. [31:10] » While you're doing that, I just inform you that we got uh two lawn tractors [31:15] down. >> Oh, yeah. Waiting on parts. [31:21] » No spilled [31:26] or anything on the new one yet? >> Nope. [31:44] heard anything on the new MS? >> Nope. [31:50] » Both are saying October. [31:59] » You're coming. Uh hopefully before the end of the year. [32:04] They take a little longer. Well, [32:09] that's >> that depends. I guess [32:14] one time I had one very quickly. [32:19] » You want laser g? >> You make a cup. [32:22] » I'll make real quick. >> She can have them all and I'll collect [32:24] from her. [32:29] So, we'll get uh mowing and we'll get to uh ceiling. We are wrapping up. So, if I [32:37] think we'll make it off the roads before the heavy [32:42] » corn harvest hits. In fact, I suppose here in the next day or two, we'll be [32:46] just wrapping it up. So, >> sounds good. [32:49] » We did uh Oh, you already made I can tell you [32:56] Saturday morning [32:59] for all the bikers to come down the busters. [33:04] They were not going very fast with all the sand on [33:09] the middle of the road. I just pull over. [laughter] [33:13] Yes, we're not very wellliked uh during this time of year, but [33:18] » no, I imagine that was a little slick, but [33:21] » yeah, >> we were all taking it slow. Nobody was [33:24] doing this. >> We will get it uh broomed off here. We [33:28] don't like to take it off too quick, especially with these 100 degree days. [33:32] » It'll uh bleed and so we'd like some remnants there to to catch that. [33:37] » Put enough tracks in there now that they can [33:40] » follow. >> Yeah, with Saturday. Yeah, I'd slow down [33:44] and they'd stick both feet down. [laughter] [33:48] » Well, >> yeah, I even have it. [33:51] » Yeah. Yeah. So, >> well, that's mild on their faces, so [33:56] » Well, they were on their way there. >> Yeah. [34:00] » Anyhow, um, anything else for me? >> I don't think so. [34:06] About the rain. >> Yeah, [34:08] » I can't do anything about the rain. [34:12] Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. [34:18] We'll >> make a motion we approve the minutes [34:20] from August 24th, 2026. >> Second move and second we approve the [34:26] minutes from August 24th. All in favor say I. I. Post. Same sign. [34:32] Motion carried. [34:41] Have we done anything before with this that you could find sessions? [34:45] » I don't think [34:50] » I am request here since we didn't get the records. [34:54] » Okay. >> We haven't done anything. [35:02] Since [35:06] the record [35:10] executive session for attorney privilege to discuss KAP K work that motion [35:17] I'll second been moved and second and we go to executive session for 10 minutes [35:21] to discuss Kwork and K camp. All in favor say I. I [35:27] oppose same signs. Motion carried. [44:16] Make a motion we come out of executive session. No action taken. I'll second [44:19] it. Been moved and second. We come out of executive session. No action taken. [44:23] All in favor say I. I. Oppos. Same sign. We're back in open session. [44:32] » I'll make a motion we pay the vouchers. >> Second. [44:35] » Been moved and second we pay the vouchers. All in favor say I. Oppose. [44:40] Same sign. Motion carried. [44:50] » Is it hot in here this morning when you came in? [44:53] » It was muggy. [laughter] >> Didn't start screaming. [45:00] » Yeah, they were. They were. >> Was pretty. [45:05] » You get 100 people up there, it get steaming pretty quick. for that. [45:11] » Well, this building is just like a a hot >> like leaving an infant child in a car [45:21] unattended. >> It's probably hard telling when it went [45:25] off over the weekend, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. [45:34] I remember last early spring, late winter, they said the [45:38] chillers were in good shape. [45:42] » Yeah. And >> they are. This is the outside unit that [45:45] we're having issues with. >> Oh, okay. [45:47] » Yeah. And I don't even know. I think some of it's computer. I think some of [45:50] it's I don't know. I [45:53] » think some of it's just been running 247 for the last two months straight. Like [45:57] my air conditioner. >> Yep. [46:02] I know what that sounds like. [46:06] » Shows up on my electric bill, too. >> Yep. [46:11] » It certainly did on mine. [46:17] » Actually, mine was not as high as I thought it was going to be. [46:23] Still pretty high. [46:43] had that style come up. We just had Mark sleep on the weekend. [46:50] » Certainly wasn't outside doing anything. [laughter] [46:54] » His office stays at a steady 34 degrees. >> 34. [laughter] [48:12] Yeah. Don't you [48:22] Not too many. >> There's some [49:18] of I saw that upper ceiling $160,3 [49:25] I saw that I can't even wait to see my fuel. [49:33] It's coming. [49:47] Heard this morning the gas was down 2 cents, but he feeding oil was up 15. [49:53] So you mean that was decent? >> Yeah, they sent me a contract for [49:57] propane like a dollar 67. Yeah, said it doesn't change [50:05] and that's [50:23] » Well, we got anything else? No, I'll make a motion to adjourn to get Sasha [50:27] out of here. I'll second it. [50:29] » Been moved and second and we adjourn.