1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:15,440 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:21,670 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,670 justice for all. [snorts] 4 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:35,200 County Commission meeting Monday, August 31st, 2026. We start off with public 5 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:39,440 forum. Pre-registration required. Please limit topics to county commission 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:43,680 business. Following any time limit set by the board and address your concern in 7 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:48,320 a courteous manner. Discussion of specific identified personnel is not 8 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:55,075 allowed. >> Anyone have public comment? 9 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,075 Okay, thank [snorts] 10 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:05,519 you. Thank you. >> Well, it was a hot day, so I thought 11 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,560 good spot to come in and cool off a little bit. 12 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,360 » But, uh, >> you want us to argue with you to extend 13 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,320 it or something? >> No. 14 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:20,320 » U, I'm here today to ask about the continued attack on the planning and 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:25,200 zoning department. How many times has Commissioner Dirks attacked this 16 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:29,600 department? I heard some of some of the you commissioners say it's every week. 17 00:01:27,119 --> 00:01:33,920 So, for the past year and a half, after those 80 accusations, have any other 18 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:41,520 commissioners found any merit in that crusade? Any at all. Silence is 19 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:45,360 agreement. Today, take a stand and end the 20 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:50,000 unproductive session. Put forward a motion. 21 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Commissioner Durk's concerns have been thoroughly reviewed and found without 22 00:01:52,880 --> 00:02:01,040 merit. More baseless accusations will not be tolerated. 23 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:04,960 You can't just go with consensus taken action. 24 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:09,440 Second, repeated public comments by the same people is out of hand at commission 25 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:13,440 meetings. How many times has new planning and zoning member Brandy Smith 26 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:18,959 and planning and zoning member Josh Wiser's wife complained about planning 27 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:23,760 and zoning? limit public comments by an individual to once per month. 28 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:28,080 Finally, what happened to Commissioner Durk's conflict of interest policy that 29 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,520 he's been demanding for over a year? Now, he drops it and blames someone 30 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:34,480 else. I've appeared before this board to 31 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:39,280 refute each and every one of his accusations. There's consensus that 32 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:44,959 there was no conflict of interest, but again, no action was taken. In light of 33 00:02:42,239 --> 00:02:49,040 Commissioner Durk's continued crusade, I would ask for a motion. 34 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,280 I would ask that the board has reviewed Commissioner Durk's concerns of conflict 35 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:59,200 of interest by planning and zoning member David Mueller found them to be 36 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:03,200 without merit. More baseless accusations will not be tolerated. 37 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:07,200 The coordinated attacks at the last planning and zoning meeting were the 38 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:12,640 last draw. It's time for the board of county commissioners to take a stand. 39 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:17,760 No more silently sitting back letting a commissioner attack others. No more 40 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:22,000 playing both sides. Take a stand. 41 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Today you will take that stand and get back to the business of Marian County. 42 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:32,280 There will be a lot of people awaiting your actions today. Thank you. 43 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Any others? I'm kind of the wrong person to have 44 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:48,400 here right now. Uh I woke up this morning and 45 00:03:47,287 --> 00:03:52,400 [clears throat] walked out in the porch and 46 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:58,480 windmills was was making a whole lot of noise which they do at this kind of day 47 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:02,159 and uh air conditioner kicked on. Here I'm over 48 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:05,920 the air conditioner. It's it's obvious that it's way over the the accepted 49 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:12,799 limits of uh the 55 dB. I've got a decibel 50 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:17,600 meter. I I understand what this is. Uh so few weeks ago, um there was a 51 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,040 conversation, you know, we've done well well on the lights. I mean, fine. It 52 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:26,560 took three years thanks to Commissioner Dirks to to to you know, start to fix 53 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:31,120 those, you know, and then, you know, they're not quite where they should be, 54 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:35,199 but great improvement. And so now so they they had a 55 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:39,759 conversation a few weeks ago between him and counselor about what we should do 56 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:47,840 about the noise level and also well the TV and a reception that I don't get and 57 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:54,320 uh over the air and others and uh so he told the comm uh counselor from as I 58 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:59,120 recall was that uh to refer your comments to the zoning board which I did 59 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:03,759 and I haven't done it for a long time. He did it last April when he talked to 60 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:08,720 him about the roads or did said they'd look into it. Here we go. 61 00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:13,520 And then uh so uh they said go to the board. So I 62 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:19,199 went to the to the zoning commission or the zoning office and and and filed a 63 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:24,479 complaint. Thought maybe they had a form or something. They didn't. And uh so I 64 00:05:23,039 --> 00:05:30,080 wrote it down on a piece of paper what you know my objections were. And uh the 65 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:34,160 secretary told me, "Well, it's not going to do it good because uh 66 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:37,680 well, there's nothing we can do about it." And I said, "Well, yeah, you know, 67 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:42,800 there is. You know, I mean, all we're asking you to do is is uh enforce 68 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:48,160 regulations, you know, and and and we need to, you know, look at this. So, 69 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:54,400 what are we supposed to do?" So, so well, so following Friday or something, 70 00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:00,800 um I I presume it was the director called me and about 5 till 5 and called 71 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:04,960 me and told me, well, she reported it to uh to Orstead. Well, you know, they're 72 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:10,319 not going to do anything. They haven't never have got to push it, I guess. I 73 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:15,680 don't know. So, I guess my question is today, what are we supposed to do? What 74 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,759 can we do? you know, 75 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,280 what are we supposed to do? There's there's nothing. We're not in 76 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:29,280 enforcement regulations. That's all we're asking for. And and in my opinion, 77 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:34,720 and I think that it is the responsibility of the zoning board to do 78 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,960 so. So, I guess that's it for today. Thank you. 79 00:06:38,244 --> 00:06:43,080 [clears throat] Any others online? 80 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:51,759 Not we'll close public forum and go on to the agenda approval. [laughter] 81 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:54,759 Any additions or corrections to the agenda? 82 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:04,639 » Move as is. >> Move to accept. Okay. As is 83 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,800 » motion motion by Commissioner Holland to accept the agenda as as published. 84 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,520 » Second. >> Seconded by Commissioner Gary. Any other 85 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:17,160 discussion? If not, all in favor? All right. By vote. 86 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,319 » Okay. >> Great. Um, we just have the minutes of 87 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:31,400 August 28th. >> Everyone had a chance to remove view the 88 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,400 minutes. 89 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:38,319 Even though I wasn't here, I don't see a conflict with any of the minutes. And 90 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:42,160 I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. 91 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:47,039 » You second. Motion. Motion by Commissioner Garing. 92 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Second by Commissioner. Any other discussion? Not all in favor? 93 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,680 I 94 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Excuse 95 00:08:14,530 --> 00:08:22,960 [clears throat] me. In the packet, you did have a report from me with some just 96 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:28,280 some information on it. Does anybody have questions about anything on the 97 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,280 report? 98 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:45,200 So we we transferred the tower trailer from emergency management. 99 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:49,519 » Yes. Back to the state. That's what the commission had requested to be done. So 100 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:54,000 that has been done. >> Was there a pickup tied to that trailer? 101 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:00,680 » Um there is a pickup. It's not specifically tied to the trailer. We 102 00:08:55,680 --> 00:09:00,680 still have the pickup right now. So 103 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:16,080 Um, any other questions? >> Uh, not necessarily on your report, but 104 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:19,680 uh, an email is booking a meeting clear out into January 2027 from you. I was 105 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:24,480 just trying to figure out was there something I supposed to be pre-planning 106 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:29,600 for or that far out? No, I'm just updating the the calendar to include the 107 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:33,120 commission room on so that we can >> Okay. 108 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:36,160 » All right. Doesn't come across a long ways out. 109 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,959 » So, I'm just trying to correct all of the rest of the meetings for this year 110 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:41,839 because of the way the commissioners changed the meeting schedule. So, 111 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,200 » okay. Very good. >> Nothing for you to do. And I apologize 112 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,160 if you were getting a lot of emails about it, but 113 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:52,800 » it was just two and they just it wasn't just week after week setups, you know. 114 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:57,040 So I was like, why are these too special? 115 00:09:53,279 --> 00:10:01,600 » No, it was just because of the the none of the payday meetings had the link to 116 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:04,640 the team's meeting on them. And then also when I set the I had to set them up 117 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,000 as recurring >> and then I had to change them because 118 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,600 they don't all fall on the same day. So that's what all that was. 119 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:15,920 » Okay. >> So my apologies. I wasn't I didn't 120 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:21,680 » were getting all those. I knew Ashley was getting them. Sorry about that, too. 121 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,279 So, no, there isn't anything that I'm aware of that you need to be paying 122 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,480 attention to. >> There's a lot of work going on somewhere 123 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:32,240 in that email all over the place. So, >> yes, there is. I've been really trying 124 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:37,279 to get the schedule in place. Um, in the packet, you have a an allocation request 125 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:42,160 just to our approval of painting the MGator that you all accepted from Kansas 126 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:47,440 Fire Service. That is a requirement of us receiving that equipment for free. 127 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:53,360 And so, Marcy did get quotes. Um, 128 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:57,839 and I'm she does have um her preference is to utilize the incounty vendor for 129 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:02,720 $2,500, but I just there's enough difference there. I wanted to bring that 130 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:05,920 to the board for your consideration. 131 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:13,040 » That's quite a difference. >> Yeah, the one the one um the low bid is 132 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:17,360 like a a one one man operation, one man shop. Um and so that's 133 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:24,880 » Yes. So that shouldn't He's my neighbor. 134 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:30,880 » He's your neighbor. He lives in county. >> I farm ground. 135 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:35,440 » That makes him look beautiful. 136 00:11:32,959 --> 00:11:38,839 his daughter or his wife inherited the ground they 137 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,920 » so I would um appreciate a motion approving one of those bids for 138 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,560 » I'll make a motion to approve the low bid of 1650 139 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,760 » the low bid >> uh 140 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:59,920 » Dman auto body >> I'll second that 141 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:03,200 » motion by commissioner Garren second by commissioner 142 00:12:01,839 --> 00:12:07,920 for the low bid on the Gator painting. Any other 143 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:14,279 discussion? Not all in favor? I 144 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,279 » thank you. 145 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,240 Great. 146 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:26,399 » Unless I need to abstain. >> No, I'm just I'm glad that detail 147 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:29,440 because a lot of times we add extra weight to the local. 148 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:37,839 » Okay. >> That they were low. We had a request um 149 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:42,959 from Dr. Hodson to appoint Aaron Krishnner as a deputy coroner. I did 150 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,320 verify with both the county attorney and the sheriff's office that they would 151 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:54,200 have no issue with that or that they would support it and they both do. 152 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,200 » Any discussion on that item? 153 00:12:54,560 --> 00:13:02,959 » I move to make Aaron Kushner the deputy corner for Marian County. Second. 154 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:05,360 » Did you second that, Dan? >> Yes. 155 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:10,480 » Moved by Commissioner Garing, seconded by Commissioner Hollow to appoint Aaron 156 00:13:07,839 --> 00:13:14,560 Krishnner as a deputy county coroner. Any The only discussion I have is have 157 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,680 we ever had a deputy county? >> We have. Yes, we have. And there may be 158 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,880 additional [clears throat] deputies as well. 159 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,240 » Okay. >> Appointed. 160 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:26,369 » Okay. Any other discussion? Not. All in favor? All right. [clears throat] 161 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:41,200 Okay. I asked Isaac to come in and talk about 162 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:47,040 um a quote that he has for um an inspection of the lake hall before 163 00:13:43,839 --> 00:13:53,120 we can move forward with some work on the interior. So, um, I did send 164 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:59,519 that to you by email right before the meeting. We just got it, um, and right 165 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:03,240 before I sent it to you. So, >> you want to go ahead and 166 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:12,560 » Okay. So, uh, this is just kind of to move from 167 00:14:11,199 --> 00:14:16,399 the outside of the building to the inside of the building. Uh, I sent Tina 168 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:22,160 some pictures. You can see there's some water damage there. Oh, I didn't sit and 169 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:26,480 » pictures were with this. So, I didn't >> Yeah. No, that's fine. Uh, just around 170 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,600 the baseboards and the bottom of the sheetrock inside the building. 171 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,920 » Um, >> I had Cody Nelson out with NF 172 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Construction. He looked at it and he kind of said 173 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:42,639 he would recommend that we uh either had a mold remediation company or at least 174 00:14:40,959 --> 00:14:48,000 had somebody come out here and could inspect that. uh this bid that I got 175 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:51,760 from American Metropolit Metropolitan 176 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:57,360 um environmental that's they pretty they don't do any work uh they just come out 177 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:01,040 test uh the environment for the inside they do a full inspection and then they 178 00:14:58,959 --> 00:15:06,399 give us a full report on what we would need to do and how we would need to do 179 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:11,839 it um is what this is the total price for that that he gave me 180 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:15,600 $1,970 um and I before I did anything or we did 181 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:20,959 anything. I wanted to come and talk to you guys to see one if this is the way I 182 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:25,120 guess we want to handle that or if there's a different way or what we want 183 00:15:23,199 --> 00:15:29,279 to do there moving forward on the inside of that lake building. 184 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,440 » Did we test the mold at the health department? Would this be the same 185 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,519 company by any chance? >> This is a different company. 186 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,040 » Okay. >> I believe this dollar mark is quite a 187 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,639 bit cheaper than that one too. >> Okay. 188 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Um, I became aware of this company and the fact that they don't actually do the 189 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:48,560 remediation work. To me, that is a benefit because I feel like that gives 190 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:52,880 us that doesn't give them a motive to potentially increase the cost of their 191 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:57,199 like they're going to give us a fair assessment of what actually needs to 192 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:02,800 happen. And I'm utilizing this company in another 193 00:15:59,199 --> 00:16:07,759 not in the realm of my county role, but in another role that I am in leadership 194 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:14,639 on and have found that to be the case with them. So, 195 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,560 » is there any sign of mold out there? >> Yeah. 196 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,120 » Okay. >> Probably going to have to shave off the 197 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:24,720 bottom two feet at least everywhere. >> Well, it just keep crawling up or 198 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:29,279 » Yeah. Yeah. It'll keep growing up if you don't cut it off. 199 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:34,880 » Yeah. Some of that got to be sprayed to kill it, I think. 200 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:39,680 » Usually. Hopefully they tell us we just cut it 201 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:44,000 down and put liner panel around it. >> Would it be best? Would it be best just 202 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,240 go ahead and cut that down before they even came? 203 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:51,360 I mean, if there's mold there, we may we may end up cutting more than we need to 204 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,000 or >> Well, and not only that, I think the 205 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:59,120 concern of contractors and staff of being 206 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,120 having to do that, if they don't have the appropriate equipment and having, 207 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:07,919 you know, the if there's any risk to personnel by doing that, 208 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:12,079 » as soon as you open that up, if there is mold there, then you've got to shut the 209 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:16,480 hall down until you get it remediated. So, um, 210 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:21,919 place with it. I want to touch it till we're ready to do the whole 211 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:28,839 » but it contained your airborne exposure is limited. Um so 212 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:40,160 I'll make a motion to approve uh the estimate $1,970 213 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:45,440 for a mold analysis. >> Second. 214 00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:49,400 » There is additional charge. I think it's $70 per 215 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:56,039 non-culturable sample um 216 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,880 » from the lab >> from the lab. 217 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:08,320 » Right. So this is for the inspection report and then the um development of a 218 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:14,320 scope of work to remediate and then um as any any samples that go to the lab, 219 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,960 the lab would charge a fee as well. >> Right. 220 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:21,840 » I believe that's the way I read it. >> Made my motion to not exceed $2,500. 221 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:30,400 Okay. >> Motion by Commissioner Garing to not 222 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:34,320 exceed $2,500 for the bold evaluation. >> Second that. 223 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:37,200 » Seconded by Commissioner Mini. Any other discussion? 224 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:40,200 » Not. All in favor? >> I 225 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:55,039 Okay. I do have just a couple of follow-ups for you and um you had asked 226 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:59,600 about how we receive money for the sheriff's drug fund and I did talk to 227 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:03,679 the sheriff that is that comes from the state. It's money collected typically 228 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:11,280 like through a set off program or individuals that are stopped or um they 229 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:16,088 don't have and they don't have the drug stamp and so they are there are charges 230 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,919 that are brought because of that [clears throat] financial financial 231 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:23,919 charges that they have to pay. And so what the way that the sheriff said they 232 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:28,720 typically typically get that is the state set off or a state agency that 233 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:35,200 sends them the money back and like they intercept if they have any tax returns 234 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:38,559 or things like that. And so that's where those funds come from. They do come from 235 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:41,600 the state and that's the process that he outlined. 236 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,200 » So so that's the reason when there's arrest they say no drug 237 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,640 » stamp. That's 238 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:54,720 » so that's how those funds are generated. Um and again most the time we don't get 239 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:58,919 much out of that um in a year. Then there was another question about 240 00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:10,720 um high angle rescue. Commissioner Hollib, you had asked about that last 241 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:15,360 last time. And um I did I reached out to uh emergency management and planning and 242 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:20,720 zoning uh because they have the most knowledge and interaction on those 243 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:25,520 topics. And the wind farm do have their uh they have their own high angle rescue 244 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:28,880 teams and local emergency responders take over when the patient is on the 245 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:34,480 ground or they're also they can also stand by for support. So that is how 246 00:20:31,679 --> 00:20:37,919 that's handled. We do not actually 247 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:42,559 » they deployed teams in it >> right with the specialized equipment and 248 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:47,200 expertise that they need to be able to a lot of equipment and training involved 249 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:51,360 » right but for county we we don't >> absolutely 250 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:54,880 » we don't do that part now um it was noted in here Marcy [clears throat] 251 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,039 noted that most of the fire departments here are trained on grain bin rescue 252 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:04,240 which includes some high angle rescue skills and um they have a course that is 253 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:08,559 called rope rescue course which includes high angles. So we do have personnel in 254 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:14,320 the county that do have some of those um kind of trainings but um the situation 255 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:18,320 is um Marcy explained that it's similar to 256 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,559 the process for anything on like a railroad property. So the wind farms in 257 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:27,120 this instance are in charge. Their incident command is under the wind farm 258 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:32,320 and then they have spe uh specified standard operating procedures for that 259 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:40,799 and then the county rescue teams are support on the ground. Okay. All right. 260 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:45,120 And then um I just also since we're since we still have a little bit of 261 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:50,159 time, I will go back into what the commission recently uh set as an 262 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:55,360 expectation for people that have complaints regarding the wind farms 263 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:59,919 that they are to go to the planning and zoning department and file a complaint. 264 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,840 And that has been done recently, which I I did inform the board when I knew that 265 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:09,120 a complaint had been filed there with the planning and zoning office. that has 266 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:13,200 gone to the to the wind farm for investigation. It's my understanding 267 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:19,840 that they have tried several times to follow up and have not been getting an 268 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:26,000 answer from from Mr. Britain. Um but my question is to the board is um so that's 269 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:30,240 the process that you all outlined. My other my question is, would you 270 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:35,760 rather um 271 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:40,799 hire a third party to investigate these? So, when a 272 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:44,080 complaint comes in, then the county can go to [clears throat] a third party 273 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:49,360 investigator that works specifically for us. There are three or four of them that 274 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,440 I'm aware of that we could utilize. we would have to pay for that, but then we 275 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,760 could request reimbursement from the wind farm and that might be a better way 276 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:05,840 for >> our folks to actually feel like um we 277 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:11,039 can ensure that that things are are fair that way. 278 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:15,039 » So this third party, are they just a information gather and a deliverer or do 279 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:18,799 they actually do investigation? Well, I could look into a little bit more, but 280 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:24,159 as of right now, the board has not authorized anything like that. And so, I 281 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:28,559 think if you have the expectation of the department fielding the request, which 282 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:32,320 they did, the department initiating an investigation through the wind farm, 283 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:37,760 which they have done, that's that's the only thing that you have so far given 284 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:45,520 authority for us to do. So if you want to have a true avenue for these things 285 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:51,280 to be investigated and and at our direction and our you know I I 286 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:56,159 think it might be something to look into and I could bring back more information 287 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:59,360 on the companies and what exactly they would do for us. 288 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:04,880 » That doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. I I would hate it if the the 289 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:09,280 taxpayers would have to pay for somebody's 290 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:15,919 individual complaints, >> right? But if you if you 291 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,000 » I don't disagree. And so that would be something that we would potentially be 292 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:25,279 able to seek reimbursement for. But that gives us some teeth. Gives you all a way 293 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:30,480 to actually know and feel like you have gotten the investigation that you know 294 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,760 and then also if somebody doesn't want to answer a phone call from the wind 295 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,919 farm themselves when they're trying to gather more information perhaps they 296 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:43,080 would be willing to answer a phone call from a third party that is working for 297 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,080 us. 298 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:49,279 » So that is something >> reimbursement involved court. 299 00:24:48,177 --> 00:24:53,760 [cough and clears throat] I no I don't think so. I mean there are certain 300 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:58,559 things in our agreement. I believe that that especially in regard to the 301 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:04,640 reception that like the television reception and things like that that 302 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:09,039 I think that there is money that is allocated for that in our agreements. 303 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:13,039 And so to me that would potentially be the be able to be a source of 304 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:17,840 reimbursement for those investigations. But I would need to do a little bit more 305 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:21,120 clarification research on it. But I just thought today might be a good day to 306 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:24,000 raise that with you. It was on my list for a different meeting, but since it 307 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:29,679 was brought up today, >> I think it'd probably be wise if we if 308 00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:34,559 we looked at something like that. But to me, 309 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:39,440 there would need to ask have some teeth into uh whatever they sign as a 310 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:44,720 complaint that if there's no merit value in the 311 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:50,360 complaint that it falls back onto the person that 312 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,360 made the complaint. 313 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,600 » You got an opinion, Brad? >> You have opinion? 314 00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:58,972 » Always. He's just waiting for you to ask for it. [laughter] 315 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:04,080 that gets you're walking a tight rope there. The individual has the right to 316 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:10,799 go ahead and make the complaint if it's frivolous uh or without any merit of any 317 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:16,880 sort. The law does allow for uh sanction uh in that case, but that's going to get 318 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:20,320 back to Mr. Phillips like Mr. Garing taxpayer have to pay for it. 319 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,760 » Yeah, >> I mean it could be that's where I was 320 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,159 get head where I was head and there was two check reimbursements. 321 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Well, frivolous complaint I guess would be one that side or the company's not 322 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:38,080 compliant and >> then 323 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:43,440 » but it would give you a another give you a little bit more of a it gives the 324 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:48,960 county staff a tool as well because we've done everything on our end that 325 00:26:45,679 --> 00:26:53,760 the commission has asked and we have received the update that they have been 326 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:59,760 trying to reach out but have not been um successful in getting through to to 327 00:26:57,679 --> 00:27:06,880 the complaintant. And so when you get to that point, then you're at a you're at 328 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:12,400 an impass unless there is a a process in place. And I I think it's always a good 329 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:18,000 idea to have a a non-interested third party involved in these kind of things 330 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:23,600 and people that would be potentially um trying to investigate these things. 331 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:28,960 I mean it wouldn't automat necessar automatically every complaint 332 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:32,320 like a TV reception something they can document yeah there is no TV reception 333 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:38,440 here >> different 334 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,440 » I think it pertaining to 335 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:47,919 complaints that come from this type of development I think it would be 336 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:53,600 appropriate any complaint that we get we send to a third party investigator there 337 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,039 » is there is there such a way and I'm not just talking about the this this deal 338 00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:00,880 because once you do this you set a precedent for any and all things 339 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:04,880 necessarily it depends [clears throat] on the contractual obligations in the 340 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:09,840 relationship this thing is very unique in terms of it does they do have a 341 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:15,039 number of obligations and duties the decibel level that is amended in the 342 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:20,799 extent to which that can occur um interference with uh uh radio or TV 343 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,159 types of reception and signals. Those things were contemplated to some degree. 344 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:29,760 So if complaints come in about those, at least those have some element within the 345 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:36,799 original pervasive uh parameters of the agreement uh to to at least contemplate 346 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:41,840 some relief. >> Well, I'm just thinking noise related 347 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:46,320 period across the spectrum on anything that has a cup, you know. So, you'd have 348 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,279 to you'd have to write in a crywolf clause 349 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:58,080 of some kind. You know, you cry wolf enough then then that's it. 350 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:03,520 » Otherwise, they just keep racking up the bill. 351 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:07,679 » And those those types of provisions, you have the ability at any time with mutual 352 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,039 agreement to amend that and add something like that above and beyond 353 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:17,000 what's already there. If you're institutionalizing an independent third 354 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,000 party investigation, 355 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,880 » you did say there's more than one company or individuals that do this, 356 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,880 Tina. >> Yes. 357 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:30,159 » That you're aware of at this point. >> Yes. So, I can if the board is 358 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:33,039 interested, I will try to um pull some information together and maybe what a 359 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:36,240 structure of what that might look like and bring it back. 360 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,640 » Okay. Consensus. >> Yeah. I I think it's it's more fair for 361 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:44,399 the individual too to have trust in somebody that's not bought 362 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,480 in one way or the other. >> Right? And if they already if an 363 00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:54,399 individual already has um intense kind of emotional [snorts] 364 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:59,679 responses about a certain company or a certain situation, it would be easier 365 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:03,320 for the individual to if a third party is doing that. 366 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:11,600 » Is that a full consensus? Everybody in agreement? 367 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,240 Okay, 368 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:37,559 I think that was all that I had on my list for administrative. 369 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:51,039 um KAC conference is coming up in December, December 7th through 10th and 370 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:55,520 the room block opens tomorrow. So if there's a potential that you are going 371 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:59,200 to want to attend and stay at the hotel, then I need um I think Ashley will 372 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:04,640 probably go ahead and try to get those rooms now. You can always cancel, but 373 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,760 it's really hard to add them later. >> I'll already have 374 00:31:06,116 --> 00:31:12,399 [clears throat and cough] I'll already have a room but for one 375 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:17,919 night or something just like always. So yeah. So you'll just have to 376 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:24,080 » probably work it out with KC and and figure out how to extend my stay. 377 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:28,159 » Does anyone else know know right now that they want us to reserve a room for 378 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,799 you? >> I just drive probably. 379 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,640 » Okay. >> I'll just I'll just go down. 380 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:40,720 » Okay. Yeah. Well, I'd like to go, but I intend 381 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:44,761 to commute and I can place another I can stay. I don't need a hotel room. 382 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,440 » Okay. All right. [cough and clears throat] If that 383 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:52,640 changes or if anybody does need one, let Ashley know, please. Okay. 384 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,960 » Yeah. Also, everybody should have an email, too, to where you can put back 385 00:31:54,159 --> 00:32:00,799 the RSVP. I just did that the other day, so 386 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:05,067 hopefully that came back to you. 387 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:07,087 Oh, you mean on the calendar invite. [laughter] 388 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,799 I saw that you did that again. I was just updating the calendar for the room. 389 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,360 So, >> but it allowed you to RSVP there. 390 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,519 » Yes, it did. >> She knew. 391 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:24,320 » And I got a maybe from Commissioner Dirks as well. So, thank you. 392 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:28,279 » We see what your itinerary is for them three days pretty soon. 393 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:35,480 » It's usually a little closer to the event. I'll try to get it to you as 394 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,480 quick as I can 395 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:44,320 » on the Monday. That's an extra an extra day a work like a a separate 396 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:49,200 registration session that's usually depth um educational session on the 397 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:53,600 Monday. And so when it gets a little closer and you decide who's wanting to 398 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,919 go to that, we may have to look at our commission agenda to see if you want to 399 00:32:55,919 --> 00:33:01,397 have a meeting that day or not. >> So, 400 00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:04,159 okay. [cough] >> [snorts] 401 00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:08,320 » In your packet, I did include the rental cost for um 402 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:13,440 » Doug's out here >> for the machine that you were asking 403 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,159 about for 330th. So, that is in there. >> Okay. 404 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:20,519 » Doug out there. >> Yeah, he's sitting right there talking 405 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,519 to somebody. 406 00:33:23,013 --> 00:33:25,033 [snorts] 407 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:32,159 » Guys, we're deep in conversation. I was trying to wave you in. 408 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:35,039 » Yeah. Last minute strategy. [laughter] >> How do we handle these guys? 409 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,120 » Yeah. >> What do we need to do? 410 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:43,840 » Chaos before the storm. >> Yeah, there we go. 411 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,480 » Okay. Uh yeah, I guess we're here to talk about the East Tampa Road. Uh 412 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:53,519 that'd be 330th from Limestone to Quail Creek about the possibility of uh at 413 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:59,039 least grinding up the surface to make it a little bit more safe for vehicles. Um 414 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:06,080 trying to plan on doing that. at their guys' approval at um in midocctober. 415 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:10,480 I don't know if Tino were you able to go ahead and send the guys a price list as 416 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:16,068 far as a rental agreement and all that. >> Okay, we did. 417 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,679 » So, you guys have already seen that. [clears throat] 418 00:34:16,723 --> 00:34:23,679 [snorts] >> And we could do this out of special 419 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:29,119 equipment. We do have um 45,000 budgeted for rental equipment in 2026. Or it 420 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:33,280 could be as um coming out of the actual project, the project fund, the capital 421 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:40,520 improvement fund could also pay the cost of a rental for that if that um is the 422 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,520 board's preference. 423 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,359 But you all had wanted that back on the agenda today, so that's why it's on 424 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,280 here. >> Yeah. So there's there's all the dollar 425 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:53,679 amounts in the from Jeff >> since time was of the essence. I think 426 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:57,280 that's why we were pushing to get something done for winter. 427 00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:03,520 » Yeah. What's the what's all the paymanship on the side? I mean 428 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:09,520 » Okay. Um so the rent for the month for one month period is 31,287 429 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,680 » and then there is >> it's just adding all those factors 430 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,440 together. >> Yes. Um the percentages on top of those 431 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,920 are the next >> y 432 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:26,079 » are are down lower. The 1.175 that's the percent. Um the 1,600 and the 750 are 433 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,920 the freight. >> Okay. 434 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:36,480 » And then the bottom so that the total rental would be approximately 39,52348. 435 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:41,599 And then the bottom number adding in the 8,000 is for the new set of teeth that 436 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:46,079 would have to be purchased and provided. And so that's the worst case scenario 437 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,880 based on what they sent me of the potential rental cost for that piece of 438 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,640 equipment. >> You have possible duplicate charge 439 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:56,880 because you either get it from Casey or you get it. 440 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,400 » I wasn't sure when I was reading it. >> Tampa Salina. 441 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:02,640 » Yes. >> So yeah, it is it's not duplicated, 442 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:06,880 » right? I just I was didn't want to assume that that's what it was. And so 443 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:11,839 when I wrote possible duplicate charge, I had not confirmed that that was 444 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:15,320 actually accurate. So, but I believe that it is 445 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,880 » used to have one of those things years ago. 446 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:28,320 » You saying the percentage changes are in addition to I thought it said 16% of the 447 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:31,920 charge of the rental. So, I interpreted that as being explaining what some of 448 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,800 the expense was. >> No, I I believe that's 449 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:40,640 » it was additional. >> I believe it's additional. 450 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:46,065 » Um if it's not, that's a bonus for us. So, 451 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:48,560 » yeah, about $6,000 bonus. [snorts] 452 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:54,400 » Again, I was trying to give you worst case scenario on there so that you would 453 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:59,440 » can't tell. You brought the We did have a B mag at one time and u got rid of it, 454 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,560 didn't he? >> Yeah. 455 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,400 » It wouldn't it wouldn't go down the road. It wasn't worth it wasn't cost 456 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,920 effective. If we could rent something and have less labor involved, 457 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,079 » then use that thing. >> I I just I just was curious because I 458 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:20,000 had noticed Purple Wave. There's been several of them on Purple Wave and they 459 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:22,320 sell for less than what we're going to pay to rent. 460 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:27,839 » Yeah, they probably creep. >> Well, they Yeah, they may be ragged out, 461 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:33,880 you know. You know, >> well, the one we had was new one four 462 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,880 years ago when I worked for the county 463 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:41,359 that road is at a depth though it needs to be ground, right? 464 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:46,480 on. >> Well, I it's as far as what I propose 465 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:53,280 the county to do is just take the subbase, which is the uh the concrete 466 00:37:49,520 --> 00:38:00,079 that's that the the injected concrete as well as the double seal uh chip seal and 467 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:05,440 just try to grind those two particular materials together. 468 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:10,960 um try to avoid getting down into the gumbo or the cleichi, whatever you guys 469 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:16,800 would like to call it. The the basic acts as a sponge when it gets wet. Um we 470 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:21,200 don't want to introduce that into how would I say the subsurface 471 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:28,960 as we grind everything up. The two two elements, the the chip sills with the uh 472 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:32,400 the concrete stabilization. So, 473 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,480 and that would be able to give us a nice smooth surface, but it's not going to 474 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:42,800 take care of any of the base work um that's causing problems that now until 475 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:49,040 uh we introduce a geo geoteex or geo tile and then build up on top of that. 476 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:53,119 So, all we're doing is just worried about the surface of it right now. Just 477 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:57,440 I'm not going to say a band-aid, but it's just something to try to make 478 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:01,760 things safer up there right now. So that concrete base, was that a liquid or was 479 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,560 that dry? >> It's dry. It's like a 6% concrete. 480 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:09,599 » Yeah. >> That gets stirred into the dirt. 481 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:12,320 » So it didn't really set up like big chunks. 482 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:18,200 » No, it never really does. It just kind of makes the dirt glue together a little 483 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:18,200 bit is what it does. 484 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:26,880 » I had a one of the I had an individual that lives out in that area and called 485 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:34,079 me this morning. He said 25 years ago that was ground up same way. 486 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:41,200 He said even when it was ground up it wallowed out right away. Okay, 487 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:46,400 » you know and of course we need to do something just safetywise. 488 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,680 » Yeah, that's just my concern right now is the safety of it. 489 00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:54,480 » And that's what I tried to do. We don't want somebody getting killed out there. 490 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:58,000 It's that bad. >> Conversation I had with Steve was that 491 00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:02,240 very first mile whether we leave that alone till the final 492 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,119 whatever we do because it's pretty solid. 493 00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:09,599 » It's pretty solid but it's going to eventually have to be ground up anyway. 494 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:13,920 So would it be better for a contractor to do it and pay extra for the 495 00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:19,200 contractor or have us do it? The machine's already going to be there. 496 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:23,440 » So that's something to talk about. I mean that first mile is in decent shape 497 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:28,480 but it's >> then we got the railroad to tracks to 498 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:33,280 cons and I'm wondering about just rather than tear that up twice especially with 499 00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:39,520 the railroad involved true there whether we just do it once 500 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:45,119 and in the second phase that first mile that's my only thought 501 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:49,920 to be an issue class working next to railroad tracks whenever we do if we do 502 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,920 it twice 503 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,280 Well, you guys will have to make that decision. 504 00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,640 » That's my only concern with this project. I think at this point, 505 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:06,800 » I'll make a motion to go ahead and approve the rental not to exceed $48,000 506 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:12,680 for the RM500 for mid October from Foley Equipment 507 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:20,319 proposal by Jeff Bender. Okay, we have a motion on the table for 508 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:23,880 the rental expense on the recycling machines unfolding. 509 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:31,920 » I'll second that. Any other discussion? 510 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,560 If not, all in favor? >> I 511 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:38,079 » Okay, I didn't have a discussion about the riddle part, but I do still have a 512 00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:41,839 discussion on that one mile. Are we going to include that with it? Are we 513 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:47,359 going to do the whole thing or we just going to I mean Mike brought up this the 514 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:52,000 topic about the the railroad tracks? I mean 515 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:56,400 » is that is that is that an issue to >> Yeah. You can't get 516 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:59,359 » the railroad tracks that you can't get too close to the railroad tracks. It 517 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,720 becomes their property at a certain point. Darren has talked about it before 518 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,520 and it's a >> it's jumping through hoops trying to 519 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,359 make stuff happen right next to them. >> Well, I mean I think they you're going 520 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:12,560 to have to stay away from that. >> Yeah. You're going to have to stay back. 521 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:18,079 I can't remember what the >> railroad will have us specify. 522 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:24,560 » It's saying to deal with the railroad if we did it just one time on the second 523 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:30,000 phase whenever that is makes sense to me, but that's just my personal opinion. 524 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:36,880 » So that's what I'm asking you. Do you want to go with leave that one the first 525 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:41,839 mile from limestone to Mustang alone and just kind of repair it as needed? and 526 00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:47,440 then grind up east of the railroad tracks just one time just those 527 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:50,400 » having to repair it. I don't I don't I would be in favor. 528 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:53,440 » Is that stretch going to be just as bad in a year? 529 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,760 » It's starting to show its teeth. Yes. I mean, 530 00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:58,560 » why would why would we wait? >> Then we're getting a whole another 531 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,240 mobilization bill. We're getting a whole another just to bring some a piece of 532 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,359 equipment. >> I was going to say you're going to have 533 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:07,760 to go get the >> I think we'll check on the railroad 534 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:12,640 permits and crossings and that kind of thing. uh see what all we need to do 535 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:16,800 with that. Um if there if that becomes a problem and 536 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,480 we need to notify you guys, we'll come back to the table and discuss it. 537 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:25,839 » But if it's something that we can go ahead and proceed with with just filing 538 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:29,920 some paperwork with the railroad, um I don't know be a problem because they do 539 00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:33,359 the same to us. They just tell us, "Okay, we're doing work on this road, 540 00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:36,560 » you know." So >> they'll do it. We won't. They will be 541 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,880 all over us. >> Yeah. Every time I do one of those, 542 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,920 that's months in most cases to get that. It's 100 feet on either side of the road 543 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,240 bed line. And I don't even know how they define that as a general rule. 544 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,520 » Okay. But if we don't proceed that 100 ft, we're not uh intruding in their 545 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,280 rightway. Correct. >> Because we stay out of that. It might be 546 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,240 tighter than that, but >> yeah, 547 00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:02,079 » like Darren Darren's been in here two or three times talking especially 548 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:04,960 Lincolnville road what our what our complications were 549 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,920 [snorts] >> and how far away from the railroad 550 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:12,000 tracks those complications start. >> One I did two weeks ago was that 100 551 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,800 feet but it was within a city limit setting 552 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:18,560 » so I don't know what impact that had. >> Yeah, might might have something to do 553 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,200 with the higher speeds too. So, well, all right. Well, 554 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:25,920 » the bad spots there in Lincolnville is right there towards the tracks now 555 00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:28,720 fairly large. >> So, 556 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:33,839 » I just want to address that concern of crossing the railroad is that make sure 557 00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:37,040 that that doesn't tow local or in a time frame or something. 558 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:44,079 » Well, the good thing is now we can just go ahead and put this machine on reserve 559 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:51,040 and get it get the things rolling. So the consensus of the board was to do 560 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:56,000 the whole stretch and not skip the first mile, but to be aware of the railroad 561 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,400 permitting issues. Was that what I heard? 562 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,040 » Yeah, I'd rather not mobilize this machine again for something to the same 563 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,440 area. >> The cost if we do 564 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,200 » consensus is to go ahead and do the whole 565 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,200 » minus the railroad minus the railroad. >> Okay. 566 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,480 » Unless the railroad says, "Yeah, do it too." then go for it. 567 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:18,800 » They won't. >> They won't. 568 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:24,040 » I wanted to make to clarify because I wasn't I just wanted to make sure it was 569 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,040 very clear. 570 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,720 » Go ahead. >> Anything else on 571 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:36,160 » No. Would there didn't we have those repairs 572 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:39,599 estimate? Um, I didn't know if you wanted to have 573 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:43,280 » I think that there's some more discussion that you maybe wanted to have 574 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,800 with your attorney on some of that. >> Okay. 575 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,359 » So, that wasn't anything I had put out for on the agenda. 576 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,400 » Thank you, gentlemen. >> The pictures behind the lake. I haven't 577 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,240 got over there, but that looks nice. I think 578 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,359 » Did they vote? >> They didn't vote, but you have a 579 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:00,800 consensus to do that. >> Consensus to go ahead and do the whole 580 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,040 model. >> They voted on the rental. 581 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,771 » Yeah. All right. Thank you. [clears throat] 582 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:19,920 » Get your hat. >> Oh my goodness. 583 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:23,240 » Yes. You have noticed that sideway. >> Thanks guys. 584 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,000 Little performance. 585 00:46:27,057 --> 00:46:29,077 [clears throat] 586 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,599 » Hello. 587 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:26,400 I move we recess an executive session in order to discuss job performance of spec 588 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:31,839 specific employees pursuant to KSA75- 431. 319B under item number one for 589 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:40,160 personnel matters non-elected personnel with the board Tina and Brad until 2 590 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:44,720 would be 247 >> 147 591 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:48,160 » 140 147 excuse me 147 with open session resume back in the 592 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:54,079 commission chambers following close session 593 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:59,200 » seconded by commissioner Durks any other discuss 594 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,433 No. All in favor? >> I [clears throat] 595 00:48:03,359 --> 00:48:08,160 was in the middle of the sentence. It had to be cut off so we don't control. 596 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:13,440 » Okay. >> Out of executive session. No decisions 597 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:17,040 made. Uh we'll be going back in. I move that we recession executive session in 598 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:21,560 order to discuss job performance of specific employees pursuant to 599 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,560 KSA75-4319B 600 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:30,480 under item number one for personal matters of non-elected personnel with 601 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:34,240 the board uh Tina and Brad until uh 602 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,839 2:00 open session to resume back in 603 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:42,079 commission chambers following a closed session. 604 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:45,200 » Second move seconded by Commissioner Garing. Any other discussion? Not all in 605 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:49,079 favor. >> I will. 606 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,319 » Okay. >> Out of executive session. No decisions 607 00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:03,079 made. Um mission comments or outside reports. 608 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,280 » We have any? 609 00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:14,800 I guess Brad, we brought back a few pictures on the road out of this. 610 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,559 » I brought back some few pictures I took last week on the road with you. 611 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:22,319 » You have provided those to me. >> Should we do you want to schedule a 612 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,040 discussion on that for next week on the agenda? 613 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,559 » Tuesday. >> No, we meet on Tuesday next week and I 614 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:34,640 don't think Brad will be here. >> That's not a typical uh a day that we 615 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:38,440 generally get to have here. >> I guess we'll have to wait. 616 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,920 or 14, excuse me, >> 14. 617 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:54,559 » All right. Any other comments? I would like to continue the discussion 618 00:49:51,280 --> 00:50:01,200 we just had this meeting. We're not done here by any stretch of imagination. 619 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:04,720 We need to uh we were getting somewhere. I mean, it's 620 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:10,880 just a matter of time and then Jonah had to leave and everything, but uh I would 621 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:16,800 like to continue this another session on this. This is important. It needs to be 622 00:50:13,839 --> 00:50:20,839 addressed and I would like that added to the agenda for next week. 623 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:31,280 » Anything else? [clears throat and cough] >> I'll make a motion to journ. 624 00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:35,520 » Second by second. Second by Commission. Any other discussion? 625 00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:38,520 If not, all in favor >> I 626 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,960 off the record and pray for our rain. Tail.