1 00:00:07,205 --> 00:00:09,225 [snorts and clears throat] 2 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,040 Yeah, 3 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,680 executive session. Everyone's on board. Everyone's here. Go ahead and fire it 4 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:12,879 up. >> Okay. Good afternoon, council and 5 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:18,000 guests. Uh today is Tuesday, September 1st, 2026. 6 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:21,040 It is very close to 5:00 p.m. and I will call this regular council meeting uh 7 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,760 regular meeting of the Berry City Council to order. First item on the 8 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:30,720 agenda is any adjustments to and approval of the agenda. Yes. 9 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,160 » Uh I would just like to request the item C, the flood resiliency update. We 10 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:37,680 basically consider the auditorium update as the flood resiliency update and move 11 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,800 it off the agenda officially. >> So noted. 12 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,840 » Thank you, >> Mr. Acting. Any adjustments to the 13 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:47,360 agenda? >> Yes, sir. 14 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,200 » Council. Okay. Motion to approve would be in order. 15 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:53,599 » So move second. >> Thank you. It's moved and seconded. Is 16 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:57,360 there any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor, the motion is presented. 17 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,160 Please signify by saying I. >> I. 18 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:06,159 » And those opposed. The agenda is approved. A motion to go into executive 19 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:10,400 or for findings, excuse me. Uh for executive session, we're going to be uh 20 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,560 talking about personnel, specifically the city manager search. 21 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:16,400 » So move. >> Thank you. It's moved and seconded. Is 22 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,760 there any discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor, the 23 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 motion is presented. Please signify by saying I. 24 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,920 » I. >> And those opposed. Thank you. And a 25 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,280 motion to enter executive session would be in order. 26 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:32,560 » So moved. >> Thank you. Moved and seconded. And we 27 00:03:29,519 --> 00:03:35,680 will be asking uh what the heck? We can ask everybody here to join us. We can 28 00:03:34,187 --> 00:03:40,400 [laughter] ask. Council will be joining us. The acting will be joining us. These 29 00:03:38,239 --> 00:03:44,560 nice folks will be joining us. Cheryl, you can join us. Hey, IT dude, you can 30 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:48,879 join us, too. [laughter] >> We like you. Uh it 31 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,200 » it's all good. We tr if we didn't trust you, you wouldn't be sitting in this 32 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,159 room. So >> but thanks any like no I'm going home 33 00:03:53,182 --> 00:03:57,760 [laughter] like I'm out of here 34 00:03:56,239 --> 00:04:01,519 » I do have one which is that Dominic Cloud will be joining us but he he's 35 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:03,599 running a little bit late. He is on his way from Randolph. Hopefully not 36 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,879 speeding too much >> but you can let him into the U 37 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,760 » Yeah. I told him that he should knock on the door that it will be closed and be 38 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,760 an executive session and he can just he'll be here in person. 39 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:16,239 » Do you want me to put up a sign >> in maybe 5 10 minutes? Sure. 40 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:19,759 » Do you want me to put up the sign? Oh, no one ever, you know, most people don't 41 00:04:17,919 --> 00:04:22,320 come. They don't come here. I mean, you can if you'd like. 42 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:23,840 » Someone came in. Thing is, I don't think they're 43 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,000 » Oh, thanks, Brian. >> You need at home about 44 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:32,880 » Thank you, Brian. >> Okay, motion is made and seconded. Is 45 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:36,400 there any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion is 46 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:40,000 presented, please signify by saying I. I. Those opposed. Motion carries. 47 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Council will be in executive session just a moment. 48 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,240 One sec. >> Thank you. Sonia, 49 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:50,880 » do you need us to wait? >> No. 50 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:54,720 » No. >> Okay. 51 01:02:52,079 --> 01:03:00,559 » Okay. We are Thank you. >> So, we are we are unmuted and uh and we 52 01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:02,880 are back live. So a motion to exit executive session would be appropriate. 53 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,400 » So moved. >> Second. 54 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:10,240 » Thank you. It's moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? 55 01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:13,040 » Hearing none. All those in favor of the motion is presented. Please signify by 56 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,520 saying I. >> I. 57 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:21,920 » And those opposed. Council is in open session. And uh so I would call for item 58 01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:26,400 four on the agenda, which is visitors and communications. Is there anyone 59 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:31,880 wishing to address the council regarding an item that is not on the agenda? Burn 60 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,880 Rose. 61 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,680 » Okay. Thank you, Mayor. >> Can you hear me? 62 01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:39,839 » I'm working on it >> barely. 63 01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:43,520 » Yeah, we're working on it. Sorry, Bar. Give a second. 64 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:46,319 » Yep. >> Is it output volume? 65 01:03:45,899 --> 01:03:51,559 [laughter] >> Sorry. 66 01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:51,559 » TVs. 67 01:03:52,449 --> 01:03:54,469 [clears throat and cough] 68 01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:02,799 » Oh, yeah. That's better. Okay. Try it again. Burn. 69 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:05,119 Hi everyone. You look fantastic tonight. >> Did you hear that? 70 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:07,569 » Yes. >> Oh, good. [laughter] 71 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:13,359 » Especially you, Mr. Mayor. You look really awesome. 72 01:04:11,444 --> 01:04:16,720 [laughter] >> Can you hear her? 73 01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:19,680 » Can there's a lot of background noise right 74 01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:24,720 now. >> Yeah. 75 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:28,799 » Hey, if we can't have fun, right? Um, I have a couple of things and I'm just 76 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:34,799 going to read them to you. Um, and then as um as people are able to address them 77 01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:41,599 uh in their work, that would be wonderful. So, could we please put out 78 01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:47,599 the sandwich board in front of city hall alerting residents to the upcoming 79 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:53,200 school vote on subber September 15th and on the eboard for the civic center. So 80 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:59,920 many people do not realize we're having a school vote and it's important for us 81 01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:05,039 all. Um the next thing is although larger stones have filled in the 82 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:11,440 washouts on our street, they are dislodged by heavier rains and DPW has 83 01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:17,200 to then come and move them out of the street and they also fill my neighbor's 84 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:25,200 yard. I hope that going forward the city will repair replace drains when repaving 85 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:32,000 as not doing that is causing our street to also be undermined and every storm. 86 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,559 And I just want to thank the DPW workers, the water and sewer workers 87 01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:42,319 because they have just all been out straight for their hard work in all 88 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:47,520 kinds of weather. And lastly, there is an amazing event coming up at the Berry 89 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:52,960 City Elementary Middle School. It's put on by the Flynn Theater and it's called 90 01:05:50,079 --> 01:06:00,559 Playing Fields. All are welcomed and it's free. It's Tuesday, September 8th 91 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:05,280 from 6 to 8:00 p.m. And it's really looks like it's going to be quite an 92 01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:09,839 event out outdoors. I I've never been to one, but they're doing them all around 93 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:16,160 Vermont as a way to give back to our communities. So, thank you very much for 94 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:20,400 hearing these things. And um uh Miss uh Cheryl, I will be happy to send you a 95 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,119 little blurb about each of these things if you would like that. 96 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,559 » Thank you, Bar. >> Thank you. 97 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:30,000 » You're welcome. >> If I may briefly address, I drove by and 98 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:36,640 noted that the election is on the Eboard >> um for the Civic Center already, so we 99 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:42,640 can check that off. Great. Thank you. >> Okay. Anyone else under visitors and 100 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:46,480 communications? Okay. Hearing and seeing no one, council will move on to the 101 01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:52,640 consent agenda. We'll be approving the minutes of the regular meeting of 82526. 102 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:59,039 We will be ratifying Alan McCulla's Adam McCulla's appointment as tree warden. 103 01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:04,000 will be approving resolution 2026-13 which is to apply for a tier B status 104 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:08,079 with the land use review board. There was quite a bit of information in your 105 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:12,000 packet on that. Uh do you have any office license? The clerk has no office 106 01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:16,480 licenses or permits and I don't believe you have any contracts for signature. So 107 01:07:14,799 --> 01:07:17,599 a motion to approve would be in order. >> So moved. 108 01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:20,079 » Thank you. >> Second 109 01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:24,960 » and moved and seconded. Is there any discussion or questions? Yes. uh just 110 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:28,720 brief discussion uh which is that I'm pleased that we are about to ratify Adam 111 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:33,039 McCulla as the tree warden. We've already picked up a conversation um 112 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:36,960 Carol and Adam and I um because there are some weird and conflicting pieces of 113 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:41,440 ordinance about the tree warden and um the activities. So we are taking a look 114 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:44,319 at them to make them make sense. So you may see that in a future council 115 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:48,480 meeting. >> Awesome. 116 01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:56,160 Any other questions or discussion? Yes, >> I have um I just have a question. Under 117 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:59,760 new business under the um CDBGDR applications, 118 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:03,440 we talked about that says the plan includes green space and housing in the 119 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:08,160 WBY Park space. Was it the Wii Park space or was it the front? 120 01:08:05,119 --> 01:08:12,480 » No, it was the the housing would be located at Wii Park and then the other 121 01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:17,199 » and then the green space would be in front. Yeah. Where 122 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:20,480 » I apologize, I forget the uh addresses. Janet probably has them memorized. What 123 01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:24,000 are >> what are the properties that encompass 124 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:29,920 the green space and the DR applications? It's five 125 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:33,440 » 553 North Main 545 North Main 531 North. >> Okay. I was confused. So, thank you for 126 01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:37,359 that clarification. And then one more thing under the high watermark project. 127 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:42,159 Um >> Danielle Ozarkski, it's Jim Dashler and 128 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,440 I can get you the proper spelling of that name. I don't have it. But I just 129 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,159 wanted to make sure that it's correct in the minutes. And that's all. Thank you. 130 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:54,159 » You're welcome. Any other questions or discussion? Hearing none. All those in 131 01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:59,120 favor of the motion is presented. Please signify by saying I. 132 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:04,080 » Those opposed. Thank you very much. Council will move on to item 5A on the 133 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:08,640 agenda. We'll be approving the city warrants for the week of 926. 134 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:12,480 A motion would be in order. >> So moved. 135 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:15,679 » Moved and seconded. Thank you. Is there any discussion? [clears throat] 136 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,239 Hearing none. All those in favor of the motion is presented. Please signify by 137 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,440 saying I. >> I. 138 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:26,159 » And those opposed. Motion carries. Any abstensions? No. Thank you, 139 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,199 » M. City Clerk. >> Yeah. 140 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:32,560 » How are you? >> I'm doing well. Thank you. Um, we are 141 01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:38,319 going to start with the Berry Unified Union School District budget revote. Um, 142 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:44,319 is scheduled again for Tuesday, September 15th. Elections will be again 143 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:51,679 at Alumni Hall from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. All ballots must be returned by 700 144 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:59,440 p.m. on that date to count. Um, currently we have issued 449 145 01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:04,880 absentee ballots and have received 156 back. In addition to Tuesday the 15th 146 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:10,640 being election day, it is also the deadline for the first quarter of 147 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:17,520 property taxes. And because we uh the city no longer no longer accepts 148 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:22,640 postmarks as um a timeline for receiving them, they must be in the city clerk's 149 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:28,800 hands or office by um Tuesday, September 15th at 4:30 150 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:34,320 p.m. Um next, water and sewer bills were 151 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:40,000 mailed out on Friday, August 28th. The due date is Wednesday, September 30th. 152 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:45,520 And again, all payments must be received in the office by 5 uh excuse me, 4:30 153 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:50,640 p.m. on that date to be considered timely. 154 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:54,960 And last but not least, BYSA football is scheduled to hold a queen drop Saturday 155 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:59,080 the 5th on Main Street in front of Domino's. 156 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:07,360 » Thank you. Any questions, council? You you needed that, right? 157 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,880 resolution. >> Okay. 158 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:16,080 » And door. Yes. >> Yep. So, no questions, council. We'll 159 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:19,679 move on to uh liquor and cannabis control board. I don't think we have 160 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:23,120 anything on the agenda there. >> We will move on to the acting city 161 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:28,560 manager report. >> All right. Chief, how are you? 162 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:34,239 » I am well, thank you. We had um Alberta Miller is our executive office assistant 163 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:40,640 here in city hall. Um she started yesterday. Um, Carol and Jeie and Janet 164 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:45,920 have been working with her, uh, getting her up to speed on some things. She's 165 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:50,719 doing really well. Um, Janet and her team successfully submitted the round 166 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:55,520 three CDBGDR, I can never say that, application for 167 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:59,520 143 North Main and the North End buyouts and housing. 168 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:04,880 Nine River Street was just awarded under the FEMA FEMA buyouts. Um that leaves 169 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:09,679 just two yet to be awarded, three Dicks and eight Harrington. 170 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:16,000 In the fire department deputy chief process phase two is underway this week 171 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:20,800 with interviews. And then lastly, all things paving and construction continue. 172 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:25,040 I think we're keeping the car washes in business. Um as you look around the 173 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:32,400 city, there's there's a lot of dust flying. Um SD Ireland is coming in to 174 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:35,440 put a top coat on Camp Street and then they're going to be beginning the 175 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:38,960 overlay on South Main and Washington next week. 176 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:42,800 » And tell me what happens to traffic while 177 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,280 they're doing that. >> So the tra the overlay you mean? 178 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,760 » Yeah. >> So they're going to be doing the uh 179 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:52,239 overlay at night. Um they're going to be working. It's all night work. 180 01:12:52,175 --> 01:12:59,199 » [clears throat] >> One of the um things that Brian had said 181 01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:04,400 that they wanted to do first was the uh 62 Maple North Main intersection because 182 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:08,719 of the [sighs and gasps] >> the roller coaster. 183 01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:13,199 » The roller coaster. Yeah. [laughter] Um so they're they're going to be doing 184 01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:16,800 that first, I believe. Um and then they're they're doing Washington South 185 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:21,040 Main. I'm not sure which one they're doing first coming down, but that's all 186 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:24,800 night work. It's night work and they will maintain one lane of traffic. 187 01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:29,040 » Correct. Gotcha. Yes. Okay. >> There is there is some work going on up 188 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:35,679 on Washington Street. There's uh at Highland in Washington where the wash 189 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:39,600 out is um there's a three-day thing they're working on that may be down to 190 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:42,560 one lane, but they're looking at a different way to do it so it doesn't 191 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,960 have to be three full days. >> Gotcha. 192 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:51,440 » Because that would cause some concern. >> Yes, it would. Any questions, council? 193 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:55,360 So, we're getting it done. Do you know when they're going to complete the 194 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,640 railroad crossing on Hill Street, like the paving? 195 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:04,239 » I think it's next week. Okay. >> But I'm not sure. I can look into that. 196 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:06,400 » So, that will probably close that street probably for the day. 197 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:11,679 » Yes. >> And that's always a bit of a challenge. 198 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:16,560 if they could, you know, if there's any way that they could delay that even 199 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:21,199 until 8:30 when the buses go through, it just makes such a huge difference. 200 01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:25,920 » You know, it it really does. And then take a little break when the buses go 201 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:30,480 back. Um you don't realize how much you miss West Patterson Street until. And 202 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:34,320 no, we're going to be talking about this winter that that that this winter there 203 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:38,960 are two streets in Barry that remain closed because of the 23 storm. One is 204 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:43,440 West Patterson and I think we all recognize especially with the 205 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:48,800 construction on South Main and Hill Street, we all recognize how how really 206 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:54,480 important that that street is. And then of course Nelson which is much much less 207 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:58,239 important but people still miss it. Uh so this winter we are going to have a 208 01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:02,400 contra conversation [clears throat] with Brian about how how we get West 209 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:06,560 Patterson open. What is the cost? How do we do it? What is the timeline? It's 210 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:10,560 just, you know, one of those things where it's you miss it when you miss it. 211 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:14,560 And then when you sit here in the council chambers, not when we're talking 212 01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:18,480 about other priorities and paving and infrastructure, not so much. But it it's 213 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:23,360 been quite a while. >> It's like Holden Street in Berry Town. I 214 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:26,400 went up it today. It's been 4 years. It's gorgeous. And people take that 215 01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:30,400 shortcut. >> Yeah. [laughter] 216 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:36,159 So, yeah. So, we figured it out and we'll be and it's, you know, people 217 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:41,280 deserve you. We haven't we've had our challenges. We haven't revisited. Um, so 218 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:47,280 what I'd like to do this winter is well, let's make a decision. Either it's going 219 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:52,159 to be permanently closed and we'll make it that way. Uh, or we're going to work 220 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:56,320 to get it open. It It's kind of got to be one or the other. 221 01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:00,560 » I just would jump in briefly, Mary, to build on the the road work. Um, they've 222 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,719 been working on Seminary Street, which is right around the corner from my 223 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,280 house. So, I've been without water during the day for two days, which has 224 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:09,679 been a bummer for me, but the communication was superb. I had a big 225 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:15,040 old orange note that was briefly terrifying taped to my door. [laughter] 226 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:19,280 But I brought it inside and taped it over my sink so I would not open the 227 01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:23,520 faucet during those days. I pulled out the camping kit and drew water in the 228 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:27,120 big bin there for during the day for the couple of days. Um, and I saw them on 229 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:31,520 all the other houses on on my on the streets in my neighborhood. So, um, 230 01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:34,000 yeah. So, just props for for the communication and the sharing out ahead 231 01:16:32,719 --> 01:16:37,840 of time, and it's an important project. I'm glad it's getting done. 232 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:44,000 » Cool. Okay. Anything else for the acting 233 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:48,400 manager? Okay, council. Then we will move on to item 9A on the agenda. We 234 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:53,520 need to appoint a berry representative to the BCRD 235 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:57,280 Vermont Community Leadership Summit. What are your thoughts? [laughter] 236 01:16:56,239 --> 01:17:02,640 My thoughts are that I've dropped the ball on this a little bit. Um, but I had 237 01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:07,199 a couple of suggestions um for folks that could be uh great representatives 238 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:12,080 of of the Barry community. Um Josh Jerome uh who has served Aly on the city 239 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:16,880 manager search committee as well as the director of the BAC. Um Po Matino who is 240 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:20,000 a wonderful servant on the police advisory committee and is also the 241 01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:25,040 executive director of the Rainbow Bridge uh community center downtown. 242 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:29,040 Um and there are a number of members of city staff who could also tremendously 243 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:34,000 benefit from this opportunity as well. Um Janet Shatney comes comes top of mind 244 01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:38,400 uh for me. So those are a couple of ideas I had ahead of time. Um I don't 245 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:41,840 know if other folks want to suggest names or 246 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:45,520 » where' Janet go? She was just here. >> I know. Well, we got we we passed we 247 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:49,120 passed the uh land use. >> No, that's okay. She's had she's had a 248 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:59,679 long day, so I imagine she wanted to get home. Um, you know, my my thought was um 249 01:17:54,719 --> 01:18:05,760 my thought was Janet and uh if Janet is um if Janet is uh unwilling or her 250 01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:10,560 schedule simply I don't think Janet would be unwilling if her schedule 251 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:17,280 doesn't allow then we [clears throat] I was going to let the acting and Carol 252 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:21,679 pick an alternate. >> No. 253 01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:27,440 » No. [laughter] I didn't ask you. I said pick an alternate because and and those 254 01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:30,719 names that you presented council both wonderful names. All three were 255 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:36,159 wonderful names. But >> but again uh if it's something that 256 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:39,920 Janet is interested in in attending >> um I know most of the time her work 257 01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:42,719 schedule prevents her from attending a lot of these events. I don't want to do 258 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:48,159 I really want to give her this opportunity. She worked very hard 259 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:52,400 getting the DR applications in. So if if Janet would like that opportunity, uh 260 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:56,800 I'm fine with that. So I don't think we need a formal motion necessarily. You're 261 01:18:54,880 --> 01:19:02,560 all okay with that. We'll offer to Janet first. And if not, we'll let Carol and 262 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:04,960 uh the acting uh pick an alternate and if you want to work with them on that. 263 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,520 Yes. >> Yeah. Go right ahead cuz I think you 264 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:15,280 know those are all wonderful names. >> Okay. We'll move to item 9B on the 265 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:19,280 agenda. This is the update on the auditorium renovations project. Mr. 266 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:24,159 Baker, how are you? >> I'm good. 267 01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:28,880 Council, you did have some information on the packet in this regard. Take it 268 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:33,280 away. Uh, make a long story short, we are at the 269 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:40,640 mercy of USDA approving our drawings and our the 270 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:45,280 drawings for the the PL. We are at USDA's 271 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:51,840 whim on when they can approve them. We are now eight weeks into that process. 272 01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:56,239 » We are eight weeks into it and they have not approved the drawings. 273 01:19:53,199 --> 01:20:02,080 » They uh they approve they came back with one set of questions. [clears throat] 274 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:05,760 They and we sent them back and we still haven't heard back from them. 275 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:09,120 » Okay. >> Uh and what does that do to the 276 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:16,640 schedule? uh it is pushing us way back right now. 277 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:22,239 Um we did swap out the boilers that we're going to be putting in going from 278 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:26,960 a one piece unit to a sectional unit. It cuts the lead time from 12 weeks to 8 uh 279 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:32,560 6 weeks. And uh we're just kind of waiting right 280 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:34,159 now to to see if we can get it in this year 281 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:39,199 » if we can >> if we can get the get this renovation 282 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:43,840 done in this this year before we open up again at Thanksgiving. 283 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:49,280 » Okay. And as a council, who could we possibly 284 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:54,560 speak with? I mean, I'm I'm sure you're doing a great job, but 285 01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:57,520 » push with the the federal government. >> How about a contractor? Mhm. 286 01:20:56,881 --> 01:21:01,280 [clears throat] >> The contract we right now we are waiting 287 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:06,080 on the federal government, >> but the person that we hired to do it, 288 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:10,800 they they must have some insight with them. They've gone through the process 289 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:15,520 before, I would assume. No, >> I don't believe so. And but we're still 290 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:21,679 waiting on the federal government to okay it. 291 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:25,920 And uh so straight up I'm a little disappointed 292 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:30,880 that this is the first we're hearing about this and and honestly kind of 293 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:33,760 surprised. Um how long? So we've been waiting for 294 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:39,040 how many weeks? >> 8 weeks. 295 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:41,760 » 8 weeks for a simple drawing and and what exactly are the drawings that they 296 01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:47,840 need to approve >> the all the work the renovations we're 297 01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:54,719 doing to the auditorium? all of them, >> even the uh the MERP grant. We are now 298 01:21:52,719 --> 01:22:00,080 at the point where we probably can split that out. 299 01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:04,239 That's the for uh the auditorium, >> right? 300 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:09,679 » So, we maybe we lumped them together to try to get as much bang for the buck as 301 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:15,520 we could between the two >> two grants. So, we're waiting for them 302 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,719 on the CDS, the congressional directed spending. 303 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,679 » Yeah. >> Which far and away, I mean, if you look 304 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,080 at the budget, >> Yeah. 305 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:28,000 » um the other two grants are roughly half million bucks and the uh CDS 306 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,239 congressionally directed spending grant is 3.5 million. 307 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,560 » 3.5. >> So, that I mean essentially it's the 308 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:37,600 whole project. >> That's the project. Yeah. 309 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:42,159 So, we're kind of >> waiting in plan working on plans B, C, 310 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:48,000 D. >> So, is this the first time that Rearch 311 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:50,960 has worked with um a CDS grant? >> I believe they've had a couple. 312 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,280 » Okay. >> I'm not sure. 313 01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:58,080 » Yeah. No, and I'm Tom, I don't mean I mean I'm not sitting here blaming 314 01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:04,960 anyone, but I'm just trying to educate myself. I mean, like no one saw this 315 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,960 like is this normal? 316 01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:14,000 I I've been told that it is >> I I can speak to this a tiny bit which 317 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:19,840 is that I ran a CDS grant through work uh last year and we had a similar 318 01:23:16,719 --> 01:23:23,840 experience. The CDS grants are approved by the congressional office and they're 319 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:28,400 placed with an agency >> and the agency may or may not have 320 01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:32,480 experience in approving those specific types of projects. It may not fit the 321 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:36,719 usual type of grants that they do. So in our case, we were we got CDS money for a 322 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,840 specific project and then we had to work with I honestly even forget with it was 323 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,440 like one of the sub agencies of the National [clears throat] Archives and it 324 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:48,400 was so far like outside their normal grant process that it took we were way 325 01:23:46,159 --> 01:23:51,600 we were way more than 8 weeks in getting them to approve the the work we were 326 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:56,000 doing and getting them to give us feedback on the things. Um, that said, 327 01:23:54,320 --> 01:24:00,000 we were in a far less urgent position than the auditorium, which has 328 01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:05,040 scheduling concerns and everything like that, but in my experience with another 329 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:08,880 piece of the CDS program that that also happened. Have 330 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:12,639 » Have you had any contact with Rearch about this in the last 8 weeks? 331 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,159 » Uh, yeah, we had a meeting this afternoon. 332 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,960 » I mean, where are they? They they must be a little bit 333 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,159 » they're they're pissed, so to speak. They're getting my language, 334 01:24:17,968 --> 01:24:22,400 [clears throat] >> you know, they're got the same feeling 335 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:25,360 we all do. Let's just get this going so we can get this job started and 336 01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:28,960 completed. >> I think a call needs to be made to them. 337 01:24:27,679 --> 01:24:33,520 » What do you think, Mayor? >> Um, well, I mean, I'm thinking of a lot 338 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:38,719 of things. I mean, one of the No, and not, you know, just trying to process 339 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:43,840 all of this. I mean, we're talking about the heating system. Okay. So, we've 340 01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:45,120 disabled the heating system. >> No, we haven't. 341 01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:50,800 » We have not. >> We have not. We're we we're 342 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:56,880 » we tearing that apart. the heating system in October. 343 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:58,719 Uh really can't do it much past October 1st, 344 01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:03,520 » right? Not >> uh even with that 8 8 week lead time 345 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,960 that you know you're pushing it. >> We're we're dangerously close to having 346 01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:10,159 to push >> right 347 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,719 that's a sprinklered building and it's a wet system. Correct. 348 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:18,560 » Yes, I believe so. >> Yeah. So yeah. So you have to 349 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:24,239 » No, I mean honestly what I'm thinking is if um approval is eminent. In other 350 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:28,480 words, there's no there's no issue with them saying no, right? 351 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:30,639 » Not that I'm aware. We [laughter] >> not that I'm aware of. 352 01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:35,040 » Okay. So >> like I said, we we've got the first 353 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:39,600 round of feedback. We sent those corrections to them. Now 354 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,320 we're just waiting on them to come back to us 355 01:25:40,719 --> 01:25:47,040 » and say you're >> this is okay or Whoops. You didn't quite 356 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:49,120 make this this one. 357 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:54,239 » Okay. >> So, we're just waiting on 358 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:58,080 » Do you have any liaison point person you can talk to? 359 01:25:55,280 --> 01:26:02,960 » I can call the uh our case manager, I guess. Okay. 360 01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:07,760 » Talk to her. But she's the one I've been emailing and she's the one that's saying 361 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:10,800 we uh we're going to just have to wait. 362 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:15,280 » Okay. >> The bottom of her emails has a line says 363 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:20,320 due to basically short staffing process may 364 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:25,600 take longer than than normal. >> Okay. But we live in Vermont. 365 01:26:22,419 --> 01:26:32,719 [clears throat] So if we can't get approval for these boilers in 30 days, 366 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:35,440 then we're not doing the project this year. Correct. 367 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:39,120 » That portion of the project. that portion of the project. 368 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:45,600 » We may we can probably get the lights done, the kitchen remodel done. Uh we 369 01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:49,120 probably won't get to the bathrooms this year if we can't get started, 370 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,280 » right? because of >> So I guess so I guess my qu when you 371 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:59,600 think about the planning that went into this um the tournaments that we have in 372 01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:03,679 the spring the commitments that we have over the winter when you when you think 373 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:11,040 of all those things what I'm wondering is um 374 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:17,120 Carol is it possible for the city we have bonding capacity is it possible for 375 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:22,159 the city is it permissible under a CDS and I don't know the answer to this for 376 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:24,639 the city because they're not gonna Oh, but they have to approve the work. 377 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,320 » They I've already >> they don't approve the work. So, okay. I 378 01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:33,120 just I just answered my own question. If you go ahead and do the work and then 379 01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:37,040 they say we don't like that work, then you run the risk of them saying, "Okay, 380 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:40,000 we're not paying for that work. We don't like it." 381 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:46,159 » So, unfortunately, we just >> have to we got that answer. 382 01:27:42,639 --> 01:27:50,320 » So, we approved a clerk of the works a while back. Is he working? 383 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:54,880 » He's on trying to push this thing through or 384 01:27:50,960 --> 01:28:00,960 » on uh he reviews the documents and he'll review the bids that come in and then he 385 01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:06,960 over he takes note basically notes of how many people are there for which 386 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:12,560 contractor and the weather and what work got done this day and 387 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:18,080 » Captain Ruth here. Steve, without putting you on the spot, have you dealt 388 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:24,000 with them before with this USDA and and >> No, let's go with the CDS grant. But I 389 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:28,719 mean, the review process is always time consuming. 390 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:34,159 I think if you if you have issues, I'd call the state director of USDA. 391 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:40,159 This >> squeaky wheel gets 392 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:43,679 » it's a presidential appointee. >> You said back in the second 393 01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:48,280 responses >> uh last week when I got back from 394 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,280 vacation. 395 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:58,000 » Yeah, the review process these even normally can take 396 01:28:53,120 --> 01:29:00,800 » eight weeks long time. So, council 397 01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:04,480 » can it's congressional >> I'll get you in a moment Amy. 398 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:09,280 » It's congressionally directed spending. Yes. Can our congressional delegation 399 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:12,639 advocate on our behalf and point out that this is Vermont and the heating 400 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:16,560 season is coming? >> Might not hurt. Might not hurt. 401 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:19,280 » Which office is this one? >> I believe it came from Sanders. 402 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:24,480 » Sanders. >> Yeah, it was Senator Sanders. Amy. 403 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:28,960 » Yeah, just this might be some relevant perspective. Um I work with USDA rural 404 01:29:27,679 --> 01:29:33,920 development sometimes on water or wastewater projects. Um which I think is 405 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:37,840 also under the community program staff. Um several years ago they had eight or 406 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:42,560 10 staff people and the New Hampshire and Vermont um offices are are joint. So 407 01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:46,560 they had about eight or 10 people. They now have two um because there were 408 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:51,280 enough people who took early retirement buyouts. Um some people who were recent 409 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:56,400 enough pro employees that they were probationary and so they were laid off. 410 01:29:53,120 --> 01:30:00,880 So um they have very few staff for the existing 411 01:29:58,159 --> 01:30:05,920 program. So, not an excuse, but just some perspective for what happened to 412 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:11,040 our staffing over the last couple years. >> Thank you. 413 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:15,440 » Yeah. So, yes. Sorry. I'm just really confused and concerned with the 414 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:22,560 timeline. Um, we got the spending, we got the award in 22 and we're in 26, 415 01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:27,280 four years later and we're still waiting for drawings to be approved. 416 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:32,800 and we're potentially looking at not having the building for use. So, I'm 417 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:39,920 just trying to understand and figure out where in the last four years we've kind 418 01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:44,560 of messed up the not submitting or where the hiccup has been in those last 419 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:49,360 four years of us getting the the spending like getting that award with 420 01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:56,239 BADC and here we are September 1st and we're 421 01:30:52,880 --> 01:31:02,080 not even got any work started. Um, I don't know about the first two. 422 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,440 I've only been here for just about two years. 423 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:09,040 » Sure. Two years. >> And we started working on this project, 424 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:15,280 I believe, about a year ago that we've been starting we started the 425 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:17,520 RFP process in the [clears throat] >> Sorry, 426 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,120 » I'm sorry. Tell me. >> Yeah, 427 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:22,719 » I can speak to that a little bit, which is that the first two and a half, three 428 01:31:20,719 --> 01:31:25,600 years of this grant, my understanding is the city did not know it had a match 429 01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:30,080 component. So we couldn't actually do anything with it. It was later 430 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:32,000 negotiated that we could spend the money and that's when the work began in 431 01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:34,800 earnest. >> So 432 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:38,239 » I do remember the match conversation and now we're able to use some other funds 433 01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:41,760 in order to figure out the match. >> And so that was figuring that out was 434 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,480 the first couple of years of the grant when we started in earnest. We had all 435 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:47,920 those presentations about how the work would be modified and tweaked and 436 01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:54,080 changed to fit the new budget and that's when it started in earnest. 437 01:31:50,639 --> 01:31:59,639 Um, so that's that's a good chunk of it was just the confusion about the early 438 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,639 part of the grant. 439 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:10,400 » Not great news. Um, you know, the biggest concern is um, yes, there is 440 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:15,120 the, you know, we could certainly um, do the lighting upgrade if they would 441 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:21,600 approve that. So looking, you know, the kitchen, um, building ventilation, you 442 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:24,639 really can't do that until you do the furnace, till you do the entire HVAC 443 01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:28,239 contract. >> Well, they're Yeah, they're they're two 444 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:31,120 two separate pieces. >> Gotcha. 445 01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:33,679 » Cuz the the uh heat pumps are going to be a separate 446 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,920 system. >> Yeah. 447 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:42,080 » That heating and cooling. >> If we got those installed before 448 01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:44,159 October, that might carry the building. >> Yeah. while we're doing the other one. 449 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:48,560 » Yeah. >> If it's if it's a night if it's a decent 450 01:32:46,719 --> 01:32:55,679 October. >> Uh but again, that's that's all 451 01:32:52,719 --> 01:33:00,960 contingent on [clears throat] approval, >> right? So, at what point I'll get to you 452 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:05,920 in just a second, council. I mean, at what point do we 453 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:10,960 put things away? >> Kick kick it till next year. 454 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:13,679 » Do we do we postpone the project? you know, have are we thinking about that 455 01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:17,520 because I think we need >> Yeah, we've been thinking about it 456 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:21,040 pretty hard and heavy. I'm thinking >> and then does the pricing change? 457 01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:25,920 » Yeah, of course. >> And now are we adjusting the project? 458 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:29,679 You know, you put anything off a year in this construction environment and you 459 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:35,040 know, you're you're guaranteed a price increase. The 460 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:40,719 the good news, if you can call it good news, is 461 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:44,960 if we do get approval, well, we get to the point where we have to put off to 462 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:51,199 next year and then we get approval, we can order the materials 463 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:54,800 and I've already talked with Brian, we can store them up on Morrison Road. 464 01:33:53,040 --> 01:34:00,960 » Mhm. [clears throat] So we can order the materials, get the 465 01:33:56,639 --> 01:34:04,159 materials on in our hands at this year's prices instead of waiting and buying of 466 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:07,840 them next year. >> Mhm. 467 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:14,080 » And then when we get ready to get going in the spring, everything's here. We 468 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:18,480 don't have to wait on a delivery or, you know, the delivery that says 469 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,000 it's coming in four weeks is actually 6 weeks, 470 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,960 » right? >> All that stuff is out of the way and we 471 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:30,880 can get going. >> No. And I get that. But as someone who 472 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:36,639 builds things regularly, we hate having materials sitting around for 6 months. 473 01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:37,840 There's all kinds of risk that comes with that. 474 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:43,199 » Y >> um can get damaged. Uh can just not be 475 01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:48,080 there when you go to find it. Um >> it's funny how they grow legs like that. 476 01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:54,000 » Well, you know, I mean it it's happened on different projects. So, yeah. So, 477 01:34:50,719 --> 01:34:57,840 this was not um I'm sorry. Go ahead, Council Spy. 478 01:34:54,800 --> 01:35:03,080 » What's the absolute drop dead date that we have to have them approved so we can 479 01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:03,080 move forward? 480 01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:11,520 » I want to say the next like two weeks. >> Yeah, two weeks. 481 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:17,360 » 8 week lead time on furnace. So if you just think about 482 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:21,040 » if we get it in if we get approval and we can get get the contracts in 483 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,880 place be here for the next meeting on the 22nd 484 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:26,480 » right >> then it's 485 01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:31,760 6 weeks after that before the boilers would even show up. 486 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:35,440 » Is there anybody administration we can call to help? 487 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:39,120 » I'll I mean this is a pretty good 488 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:43,760 » I I'll ask that question. I I'll reach out to a few people and ask that 489 01:35:40,719 --> 01:35:48,560 question uh tomorrow. May start with [clears throat] Senator Sanders. I mean, 490 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:53,520 first of all, I don't want to look look a congressional gift horse in 491 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:58,159 the mouth. We we still appreciate this project, but 492 01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:01,120 » um you know, some certainty would [clears throat] really be 493 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:04,320 appreciated. And if they could if they simply said, 494 01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:07,520 » "You're not going to get your approval for 8 weeks." All right, we know what to 495 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,600 do. >> Yeah. and and we know how to proceed. 496 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:14,719 The problem is when you're waiting and thinking, am I going to get it? Am I 497 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:19,120 going to get it? If we don't get it by September 15th, that's 498 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:22,159 » it based on the schedule you told me that it won't work 499 01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:25,120 » past that date. >> So, I mean, we're going to know soon 500 01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:28,000 enough, but it would be a lot more helpful 501 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:31,679 » to know much sooner. >> Yes. Then we can 502 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:37,840 » rather than later. And would you consider doing some of the other 503 01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:41,600 projects uh or you know would it make sense for example like the kitchen and 504 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:46,000 lighting? >> We we could do that like the changing 505 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:48,960 out the lighting we can do that while the building's operational that's done 506 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:52,159 during the day. >> Is there anything that has been approved 507 01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:56,560 any component? >> The we have approval for the MERP 508 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,119 grants. >> No I mean when when you look at the 509 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,159 overall component >> as far as that 510 01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:05,920 » Yeah. like lighting, you know, the entire So, you have to go with So, 511 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:09,360 basically, >> the CDS grant is not Nothing is 512 01:37:08,639 --> 01:37:13,520 approved. >> Nothing is approved yet. No. 513 01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:16,639 » Okay. So, it's a it's kind of an all or nothing thing where you send it in and 514 01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:19,199 they have to approve everything in for in order for you to get anything. 515 01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:25,040 » Yes. >> Okay. So yeah, the only thing the only 516 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:30,239 thing we could do under the MERP grant is there's, [clears throat] you know, a 517 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:35,600 little bit of lighting there, but not much. The lion share of it is in the 518 01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:41,119 CDS. Uh exterior window replacement and door weather stripping. That's that's 519 01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:45,440 basically it in the and roof insulation. That's it in the MUR grant. 520 01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:50,159 » And I believe the >> Yeah. 521 01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:54,719 » And everything else. Yeah. Well, Yes, just one last question. Um, so my 522 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,880 understanding is that we're not currently renting any space in the 523 01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,480 auditorium because of this project. Correct. 524 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:07,760 » Correct. >> So, is it feasible to say that we could 525 01:38:04,719 --> 01:38:09,600 potentially reopen the auditorium for some revenue? 526 01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:15,520 » Absolutely. >> So, that way while this project is in 527 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:17,760 limbo, we could at least be making some money. 528 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,040 » Absolutely. potentially offering that to the community. 529 01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:23,040 » Y >> cuz I know that's been something that's 530 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:28,080 been asked a couple of times over the last few months. Not like a huge need or 531 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:32,000 desire, but definitely been asked, hey, how come we are not using the 532 01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:37,199 auditorium? Uh, one actually was asked about the election um that we had uh at 533 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:42,080 Alumni Hall and why we weren't able to use the odd instead of um and that was 534 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:45,360 actually what brought me to thinking about where we were at with this 535 01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:48,719 project. Um, >> so 536 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:54,239 Is it possible that we use the auditorium for the election still? 537 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:57,520 » I mean that actually >> I'm just asking general questions 538 01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:04,000 because I was under the assumption that we when we closed the auditorium that it 539 01:39:01,119 --> 01:39:08,080 was done we were until the project was wrapped up and that we weren't able to 540 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:12,719 use it whatsoever. And now I'm under the impression that we probably could have 541 01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:17,119 had it open for the am the time that we've had it closed because we haven't 542 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:23,920 had the project started yet. >> Yeah. I I closed it in anticipation 543 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:30,719 of being able to do this project >> and I would rather have it empty for in 544 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:34,880 this one or two, you know, 2hour rentals than have to tell somebody, oh, your 545 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:38,800 birthday party that you planned for the last two months is now canceled because 546 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:42,960 we're starting work next week. >> I think we need an answer from them if 547 01:39:40,719 --> 01:39:46,320 they can give us a timeline. Like you said, mayor, they got to give us 548 01:39:44,639 --> 01:39:51,280 something here. It's about 8 weeks we've been banking on this project. It's part 549 01:39:48,159 --> 01:39:56,400 of our largest financial contributor to our city basically in 550 01:39:53,360 --> 01:40:02,480 that and the b correct? Yep. Um let me see what I can do 551 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:08,000 tomorrow. Like I said wasn't uh wasn't aware. Uh so let me see what I can do 552 01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:15,600 because I'm just quite like I said this was not necessarily the update I was 553 01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:20,639 anticipating this evening. So, um, yes, Miss Higgby, did you have a question? 554 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:24,239 » No, I just >> could you come up to the table, please, 555 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:27,679 so that the folks on Zoom can't hear you. 556 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:34,239 » Absolutely. So, I've served on the civic center committee for about 10 years and 557 01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:38,560 I've been the minute taker for the last probably four years. And I would just 558 01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:43,119 invite everyone to take a few minutes and actually read through the minutes 559 01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:46,639 and follow what has been transpiring and the discussions. But my purpose in 560 01:40:45,119 --> 01:40:52,239 coming to the table right now is to remind everyone that we think about the 561 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:56,719 space as a place for sports activities, a place to vote, a place to have 562 01:40:54,560 --> 01:41:02,159 birthday parties. But possibly the most important thing that the space is used 563 01:40:59,119 --> 01:41:06,960 for would be health emergencies. We're the overflow to the Central Vermont 564 01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:11,440 Medical Center. Also, we're the flood emergency center. So, we can't schedule 565 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:16,400 that. We can rearrange the basketball schedule. We can rearrange birthday 566 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:22,880 parties, but we've been very lucky this year. We don't have to use the space for 567 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:26,000 overnight stays for flood victims. And that's really one of the reasons that 568 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:30,480 the cafeteria is being remodeled. It's not just because people want to buy hot 569 01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:35,840 dogs, right? It's because we have to feed families. And so I I just want to 570 01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:40,480 remind people that this is this is more than just a facility where people go and 571 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:46,400 play games. It's actually one of the most important aspects of this community 572 01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:49,840 resource is that we save families. And so [clears throat] let's let's not lose 573 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:54,639 track of that. And that's what's really important. That's really what attracted 574 01:41:51,840 --> 01:42:00,080 Senator Sanders and his staff to support this project in the first place. So, um, 575 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:05,280 as soon as we can get this thing going, I would I would urge us to to move 576 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:09,679 forward and also I encourage you to read the minutes of the meetings so that you 577 01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:13,199 understand what has happened over the last four years. 578 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:19,840 » Well, we it'd be advantageous for us to put that when we talk to them again. 579 01:42:16,719 --> 01:42:23,840 We should bring that up to them. Why whatever the the people who are holding 580 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,880 us up USDA >> say that to them you know that that's 581 01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:31,280 just one more positive thing that we could utilize. Well, of course, 582 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:33,840 absolutely. But it sounds like based on the conversation that happened a few 583 01:42:32,719 --> 01:42:38,239 minutes ago, sounds like they have a staffing deficit and and you know, you 584 01:42:37,679 --> 01:42:43,040 can't >> people still need to do work that 585 01:42:40,719 --> 01:42:45,920 they're unable to complete, but yes, it's a very good. 586 01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:48,320 Thank you. >> Thank you, 587 01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:53,119 » Mayor. We do have Amy Gford again. >> Uh Amy, I'm sorry. 588 01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:56,560 » That's okay. Um I forgot to mention um the remaining staff are not professional 589 01:42:55,119 --> 01:43:00,800 engineers. So, if you're waiting on a professional engineering approval, um 590 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:05,840 that may be someone from New York State or another state. Um so, I would maybe 591 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:11,040 in pursuing follow-up questions just be really clear like who are you waiting 592 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:13,280 on? Is it that they are waiting on it? If it has to be signed off by a 593 01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:17,040 professional engineer, that might be someone in another state. 594 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:21,679 » Great suggestion. Thank you. >> Good. 595 01:43:18,639 --> 01:43:28,880 » Yeah. So, maybe we could find that out. I mean, realistically, so um 596 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:32,560 getting through the surprise and disappointment, 597 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:36,719 um you know, we're going to have some decisions to make. 598 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:42,719 » Um if the I mean certainly with the Boiler Project, um so currently we have 599 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:46,800 no events scheduled >> until the Mberry Berry Festival, 600 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:51,199 » the craft fair. >> Until the craft fair. So really the you 601 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:55,679 know there there's even with the lighting yes the you know lighting can 602 01:43:53,840 --> 01:44:01,280 be done yes the kitchen renovation can be done but we what we have to think 603 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:07,040 about is as um councelor Dearing was suggesting at what point do we just 604 01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:15,840 postpone the entire project until our slowest time which is summer of 27 605 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:21,679 when we really don't have a lot of events going on up there at you know, if 606 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:23,440 we hit it hard after the high school basketball tournament. 607 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:26,400 » Yeah. >> And hit it hard that summer 608 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:29,520 » April next next year. >> Let's be a little, you know, little 609 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:33,280 practical about I mean, realistically, we we could do the kitchen over the 610 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:37,600 winter. We don't have a lot of events where unless there happens to be 611 01:44:36,282 --> 01:44:41,440 [clears throat] some sort of um >> they can't use it to cook now anyways, 612 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:46,000 » right? >> So, they're you know, we just need to be 613 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:50,560 thinking that way. We need to be a little little nimble and think about 614 01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:55,600 well okay if we get it by this date what can we do if it doesn't happen till this 615 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:59,280 date what can we do and obviously there's going to be a certain point if 616 01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:03,760 you don't get it until February >> well not going to be anything you can do 617 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:07,679 » okay >> we're we're getting 618 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:11,760 really close to that that >> we get uh tell you what I'd love to have 619 01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:16,400 you come back in at the next council meeting um I'll compare notes with you 620 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:19,679 in the meanwhile I I'll >> just look around a little bit, see if 621 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:23,520 there's someone that I can speak to and maybe you and I can get together. If 622 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:28,320 that's all right with you, I'll get together with Tom tomorrow and just 623 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:32,639 figure out who can we call following up using Amy's suggestion and try to figure 624 01:45:30,639 --> 01:45:36,560 out how we move this forward. >> All right. 625 01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:40,159 » You need a answer on the MER thing too though, right? To extend that. Is that 626 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:43,440 » uh actually >> or did was that a plan that you were 627 01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:47,199 saying plan B >> just before it came we just have to have 628 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:53,360 the >> uh contract in place with rearch for the 629 01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:57,920 merc money by the end of the month. >> Oh, so they'll let us 630 01:45:54,560 --> 01:46:03,360 » then we can we have till 29 to do that one as long as we complete the city hall 631 01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:08,000 work before the end of December. >> Got you. 632 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:12,560 Super. Tom, thank you. >> Thank you, Tom. 633 01:46:09,679 --> 01:46:16,719 » Council, we will move on to I'm sorry. >> Sorry, this isn't a question for you. A 634 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:22,560 question for the city clerk about the general election. 635 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:27,199 » Are we doing that in Alam Hall? >> Because I have concerns about a line up 636 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:31,840 the stairs. I'm sure you do, too. >> I do too. Yes. Yes. Um Bob and I will 637 01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:37,199 talk tomorrow >> or Michelle about the the general 638 01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:40,360 election. That's November. It's >> the third 639 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:45,280 » gymnasium. [laughter] 640 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,960 » One way or another. >> Yeah, 641 01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:51,760 » that >> it's a little up in the air, but it's 642 01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:56,560 actually I think it's easier even to pivot the election at sort of the last 643 01:46:55,040 --> 01:47:00,000 minute because you're in the same general vicinity. 644 01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:04,239 » Yeah. No, but I just think switching alumni hall has been fine, I think, for 645 01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:08,080 the smaller elections. I'm just worried about in general. I understand 646 01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:12,719 » people lining up on those stairs. >> Exactly. 647 01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:17,920 » That seems like a bad idea. >> Stay tuned. [laughter] 648 01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:21,920 » Okay, councilors, we'll move on to item 9D on the agenda. This is the manager 649 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:25,119 search committee update. Councelor Gustin, 650 01:47:22,639 --> 01:47:28,960 » great. As folks no doubt saw warranted, we started this meeting this evening 651 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:34,719 with an executive session with the city manager search committee um and had a 652 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:39,600 good robust discussion on the interviews that um the committee has been 653 01:47:37,119 --> 01:47:45,280 conducting. So, just to recap for members of the public, um we reviewed 654 01:47:42,239 --> 01:47:49,840 applications that came in. We selected um a number of folks to interview. Uh 655 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:54,400 and we have recommended finalists to city council and we will now be 656 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:58,159 scheduling next steps with those finalists. Uh we are committed, my 657 01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:01,679 understanding of our conversations of councils, we are committed to moving 658 01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:06,320 quickly and efficiently. Uh in the coming weeks and still on track for what 659 01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:09,920 we've been saying all along, which is a mid to third week of September, we 660 01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:14,320 should be in a place to extend an offer to someone. uh if all continues to go on 661 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:20,080 track. I didn't I don't know if anyone else wants to weigh in 662 01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:24,080 on the conversation we had, but um uh it was a really nice overview in the Times 663 01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:28,880 Argus a couple of weeks ago and we I think we are very much still uh on track 664 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:33,679 with everything that was reported there. It's going really well. I'm I'm excited. 665 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:37,440 » No, I mean I think we we have a good process. I think we all have an 666 01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:43,199 understanding how the process is going to go. We know that we we want to move 667 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:49,600 quickly. I mean, we we want to be naming the next city manager. And I think I I 668 01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:55,920 think we've balanced uh our anxiety to name a new city manager 669 01:48:53,679 --> 01:48:59,360 with the appropriate due diligence that we all that we have to do in order to 670 01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:03,760 feel good about naming a new city manager. So, uh as far as the resumes 671 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:10,480 that the committee forwarded, those uh the three um congratulations. They are 672 01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:14,400 three very very strong candidates and I'm excited I'm excited to meet all 673 01:49:12,639 --> 01:49:18,480 three of them and all three would certainly uh do a great job in Barry. So 674 01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:22,880 once again to the members of the committee folks who are teeing this up 675 01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:28,239 for the city council council council Ruth here thank you uh for your good 676 01:49:25,119 --> 01:49:31,920 work. Any questions folks? Okay then we'll move along to upcoming business. 677 01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:37,360 We're going to name a city manager. That's about it for right now. 678 01:49:34,639 --> 01:49:42,960 That's where we're focused uh like a laser getting through the um getting 679 01:49:41,119 --> 01:49:48,800 through the paving projects. Uh finishing those up uh towards the end of 680 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:53,920 the year. Finally getting uh you know uh Route 14, South Main Street and 681 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:59,360 Washington Street. Finally getting the uh Milanfield on those projects. I think 682 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:02,639 people will notice a big difference. Um, you know, we'll keep increasing the 683 01:50:00,719 --> 01:50:07,760 paving budget and we'll get back to where we should have been years ago, but 684 01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:12,159 weren't. So, we're making progress. Yes. >> Question. When do we find out about the 685 01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:14,560 results from the grant applications? >> Not until October. 686 01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:20,239 » Okay. >> Not until October. I believe 687 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:25,119 Oh, I believe that committee meets I want to say I want to say October 5th. 688 01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:30,320 it that may not be the correct date, but I could I could check and see when they 689 01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:34,480 will uh when they will vote on that. Uh and speaking of which, again, thank you. 690 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:39,760 As the chief mentioned, those applications went in today. It was just, 691 01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:44,639 you know, an all hands on deck weekend. I mean, we have been, you know, from the 692 01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:49,360 mayor on down, we have all just been working together for the past four weeks 693 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:54,320 to pull those applications together. And I'm excited about both of them. I mean, 694 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:59,199 I think either of them could be a home run for the city. And what I'll be 695 01:50:56,159 --> 01:51:03,280 talking to the treasurer about is uh if one is awarded the full amount, how do 696 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:08,719 we somehow fund them both? >> How do how do how do we get them both? 697 01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:16,320 No, you know, I think about that. So, I don't take 20-year mortgages anymore. 698 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:21,840 Okay? Because statistically speaking, I may or may not be around to pay it off. 699 01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:27,520 Okay? Municipalities are different. You know, municipalities go on for hundreds 700 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:32,560 of years. You know, I'm I despite our issues, America will go on for hundreds 701 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:36,159 of years. So, it used to be years ago, municipalities, you know, everybody's 702 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:40,800 looking at Prospect Heights. Well, that's what municipalities did. They 703 01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:46,080 built the roads. They did all of the infrastructure. They sold the lots 704 01:51:43,679 --> 01:51:51,199 because it made the most sense and everyone had an ownership interest. And 705 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:54,639 the more I think about, you know, as a private citizen, I've done it with 706 01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:58,639 People's Health and Wellness Clinic and we've done it with the Meals on Wheels 707 01:51:56,239 --> 01:52:02,320 program and figured out how to help them own their own building because again, 708 01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:06,159 they're an organization that's going to go on a very long time. And sometimes I 709 01:52:04,639 --> 01:52:10,880 look at these projects, I look at something like 143 and say, "Well, if a 710 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:15,199 private citizen can develop a building, then why can't everyone? And why 711 01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:19,920 couldn't 10,000 people own a piece of that building?" 712 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:24,480 just so yeah, it's gotten me all juiced up there, Carol. 713 01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:29,840 I'm all fired up to try to figure out a way that we can, you know, I I I think 714 01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:33,679 the committee and and I think the staff and committee are going to and board are 715 01:52:32,239 --> 01:52:37,920 going to look positively at our applications, but like I said, you know, 716 01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:43,520 it would be like picking your favorite. I couldn't pick one right now. I like 717 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:46,880 them both. So, we'll see. Round table. Council Dearing who started Oh, I'm 718 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:50,480 sorry. Yes. >> Did I miss it or did you skip the flood 719 01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:54,480 resiliency update? >> The auditorium. 720 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:59,760 » The auditorium was the we we flipped gears and we had the auditorium project 721 01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:03,679 be the flood resiliency update. Did you have anything? Oh, okay. 722 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:06,560 » So, yeah. So, you did miss it at the very beginning of the meeting. I asked 723 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:11,040 for an agenda adjustment. Um because the auditorium is one of the listed goals 724 01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:13,840 » and I've been very busy with the city manager. 725 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:18,239 » Councilor Dearing started school roundt. >> Started school baby. [laughter] 726 01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:23,440 Lots of lots of great stuff. Um lots of good positive attitude and behaviors. Um 727 01:53:21,599 --> 01:53:28,400 really great to see a lot of the enthusiasm, a lot of the people. Um just 728 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:34,480 a lot of the things that we embrace here in Barry. Um we're really just trying to 729 01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:38,080 just show a new story. Um >> thanks. 730 01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:42,159 » So really that's that's the key is just, you know, people always have a story, 731 01:53:40,239 --> 01:53:45,360 but you can always have a new story to tell uh with the things that are going 732 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:48,880 on. And that's really what we're trying to do within the school. So, lots of 733 01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,960 great stuff going on at Barry City School. 734 01:53:49,679 --> 01:53:55,520 » Fantastic. Counselor, >> I just want to extend a thank you to the 735 01:53:53,520 --> 01:54:04,159 DPW for all the work that they're doing on Camp Street and a plea for please 736 01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:07,920 restore the stop sign that is on camp. I mean, because I've seen so many close 737 01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,080 calls. >> Is there a temporary one up there? 738 01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:13,679 » There isn't one. >> Okay. Brian Brian said he he was getting 739 01:54:12,639 --> 01:54:16,159 a temporary >> I haven't seen it. Maybe you could nudge 740 01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,719 him again. >> I will nudge him again because he told 741 01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,960 me they were bringing they were bringing up 742 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:24,400 » Yeah, there was another real close call this afternoon. People just, you know, 743 01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:30,320 people who aren't from Barry don't know that they have to stop there and so they 744 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:34,560 don't and somebody's coming downhill and I just don't want anyone to get killed. 745 01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:38,800 » Captain Gustin, >> uh I have two updates from the Aldrich 746 01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:44,480 Library. Uh the first is that the Alders library is now fine free which means uh 747 01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:48,719 which is a really phenomenal development. Um there's actually been a 748 01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:53,520 ton of really good study and research on this over the years and um people don't 749 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:58,880 feel ashamed to bring books back. Books get back just as just as well as if 750 01:54:55,840 --> 01:55:01,679 there were fines. Um and people are able to participate more fully in the 751 01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:04,639 library. It's not actually a revenue generator for folks. And actually 752 01:55:03,199 --> 01:55:08,480 sometimes libraries do better because what their assign is what their assign 753 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:11,040 is instead is you return this book late. Would you like to donate? And then 754 01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:15,440 people like give more money than they would actually be paying in 25 cents and 755 01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:19,199 fines. Um and overall it's a really really nice step forward to making the 756 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:24,639 Aldrich even more accessible uh for the community. And also September is 757 01:55:21,679 --> 01:55:28,080 National Library Card Signup Month. So I put a challenge to members of council. 758 01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:31,520 If you do not yet have an a library card with the Aldrich, please walk yourselves 759 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:36,000 over and uh and make sure you participate in National Library Card 760 01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:38,800 Signup Month. I'm going tomorrow to pick up my books for reading by the pool and 761 01:55:37,599 --> 01:55:44,800 Labor Day weekend. >> So, I already have a card. [snorts] 762 01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:51,360 » Um I have two things. One is um front porch forum was ablaze about the um 763 01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:56,560 drain adopt a drain program and uh thank you councelor Hillgard for the right 764 01:55:53,760 --> 01:56:01,760 word for drain just [laughter] they were swamped flooded much better 765 01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:04,719 with um with but I thought it was great that there was like there were 766 01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:09,360 conversations so I think that was fantastic but maybe we should also after 767 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:13,599 the city manager search maybe do another little push about that um and the second 768 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:17,040 thing is On behalf of my husband, I want to thank the kind people who picked up 769 01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:22,159 his poor chainsaw that fell out of the back of his truck and all of the 770 01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:26,000 community members who saw his his plea on front porch forum and had seen the 771 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:30,239 person who posted on Facebook and reunited him with his 26-year-old 772 01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:33,520 chainsaw. >> Thank you. Bounced out of the truck. 773 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:37,440 » Well, his tailgate fell open and it bounced out [clears throat] and he has 774 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:40,960 apparently sentimental value for this chainsaw. 775 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:44,639 » Is that okay? I don't I guess it's fine. and he went down and helped a friend and 776 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:47,760 private limb that have fallen down. >> So, yeah, it's [clears throat] good. But 777 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:51,840 thank you. Thank you. Good the good work of Facebook and Front Porch Forum. We 778 01:56:49,679 --> 01:56:56,560 reconnected them. >> Where did you run? 779 01:56:52,560 --> 01:57:01,280 » Um I attended a uh overdose awareness remembrance candle light vigil last 780 01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:07,599 night over at Courier Park. Chief Vale spoke. Um next year when it comes 781 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:14,639 around, you should go. um you'd be it would just open your eyes out to how bad 782 01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:18,400 this overdose business is. And good job last night, Brad. 783 01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:21,840 » Thank you, Councelor Worth here. >> Um 784 01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:26,480 with all the construction and everything in Barry, it I'm getting more positive 785 01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:33,360 about what it's going to be like in 3 to 5 years. And I just can't help but I 786 01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:38,159 love when I see a officer or a bee on a bicycle which I've seen and I just love 787 01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:44,960 that. That's excellent. >> Thank you. So 788 01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:50,880 being positive, not having a an official city manager certainly 789 01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:56,960 makes the council meeting shorter. However, [laughter] I have spent more 790 01:57:54,320 --> 01:58:02,320 and and I'm grateful, but I have spent more time in city hall and with 791 01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:06,719 department heads and lobbying and doing stuff that a manager is really supposed 792 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:13,076 to be doing uh in the past month than than I have probably in the past uh 793 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:17,440 year. Uh so, can't wait to name a new [laughter] city manager so I can get 794 01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:22,239 back to my cushy schedule. Speaking of Cushy schedule, I will be traveling on 795 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:26,239 the 22nd councelor, so I will likely not be at that council meeting. Don't know. 796 01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:30,159 So, I just wanted to tee it up for you because you would be the Oh my god, we'd 797 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:34,800 go from acting city man now acting mayor. Everybody's just acting and not 798 01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:39,520 serious about it. [laughter] >> It's like Broadway around here. 799 01:58:37,119 --> 01:58:43,040 » And with that council, uh so I don't think we need an executive session. A 800 01:58:41,119 --> 01:58:46,320 motion to adjourn would be in order. >> So move. 801 01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:50,159 » Thank you. Uh any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor of the motion 802 01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:53,760 is presented, please signify by saying I. I. And those opposed, we are 803 01:58:52,159 --> 01:59:00,000 ajourned. Thank you. >> Madam chair, you're to us 804 01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:04,599 and I didn't realize it was >> in a good place. It's a number. 805 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,880 Yeah.