1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,680 Everybody, >> click. 2 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:07,200 » Good morning. Joe Baratka >> here. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,800 » Doug Ericson >> here. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,559 » Larry Pichek >> here. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,840 » Jordan Spacic. >> Jeff Olrich 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,160 » here. >> All are present. 7 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:22,000 » Thank you. Items for discussion and possible action. 8 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:27,599 Public comment. >> Let the record reflect. No one is here 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:32,920 for public comment. Anybody online? Star six to unmute yourself for public 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,920 comment. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:42,160 Anything, Nick? >> Okay, we'll move on to communications. 12 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:48,960 I have nothing. Any of the committee members have anything? So, Mr. Chairman, 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:55,280 um yesterday I attended the um WebEx for the Highway 70 resurfacing project by 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:01:01,920 the DOT. So that's a uh scheduled in 2029 19.1 miles starting from five field 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:06,320 going to the 09 the county line 2 in of mil and then they're going to resurface 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:10,720 it. There are some bridge work and seven culverts that are going to be replaced 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:16,159 and they're just going to be doing one lane flagging for that. Here's a summary 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:21,560 of that particular meeting if you'd like that. 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,560 » Did you attend that Roger? 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:29,200 No, Larry, I was busy. But this is just um preliminary 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:36,479 uh plans. They're just they're just doing scoping of the project. So, um 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:41,040 later on I'll be more involved in there'll be a premeating prior even to 23 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:45,759 design even yet. So, there's there's there's more meetings to come. So, 24 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:49,040 » okay. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff, for that. >> Mr. Chairman, just a quick FYI, I can 25 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,439 vouch for Roger. He was doing county business, 26 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,936 » was he? [laughter] I saw him. 27 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:59,439 » Can anybody else vouch for him? [laughter] 28 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,600 » Yeah, the the meeting there was minimal people on the meeting. 29 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:08,560 » Do you have anything else on that, Jeff? >> No, I I mean Rob Somerfeld's office was 30 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:13,680 on, Senator Jesse James office was on, um Schwaman 31 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:19,120 school board or administrator, and then a town of Ffield board member was on and 32 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:21,040 the rest were were um DOT folks. So again, 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 » okay, thank you. >> You're welcome. 34 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:29,879 » Item number two, minutes from our August 5th meeting. What's your pleasure on 35 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,879 that, gentlemen? 36 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:35,840 » I will make a motion to approve those minutes. 37 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,040 » Motion by >> second. 38 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:43,280 » Second by Spacic. Any further discussion? All in favor 39 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:48,080 signify by saying I. >> I. 40 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:54,879 » Opposed? Motion carried. Item three, five-year capital improvement plan. 41 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:58,080 Roger, your moment to sun. We have it in our packet. 42 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:03,200 » Yeah, we made some adjustments and cleaned it up. So, I guess if anybody 43 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:10,239 has any further comments, questions or concerns. 44 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:14,959 Um so like all of it is contingent on funding and 45 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:21,200 um [clears throat] sometimes even like if there is DOT work closer to the area 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:27,120 where um it would be better to move a project around it's just they're there 47 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:30,120 the needs are there. So, 48 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:41,120 » anybody have any questions or or comments on 49 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,760 the five-year improvement capital improvement plan? 50 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Mr. Chair, if I may. >> Yes, go ahead. 51 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:53,040 » Um, funding request $3.1 million. That's 52 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,879 been standard for quite a while here. It's not any higher or lower. It's not 53 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:00,879 what But I'm just My point is it's nothing new. 54 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:06,560 » No, it's nothing new. Um you know, and I'm not requesting any 55 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:16,920 above that for inflation. It's we'll just do what we do with what we got. So 56 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,920 very very grateful for what we get. 57 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:26,440 Okay. the equipment side of that plan. 58 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,800 » Um, back on back on the highway plan, do you think there's going to need to be 59 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:42,479 any like rut wedging done on H? I know there's a lot of complaints out there 60 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,560 already to you know >> Yeah. 61 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,320 » at least the first three miles beyond that it's not as bad. Yeah, 62 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,520 » we did that last Monday. >> Oh, you did? 63 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,479 » Oh, yep. >> Okay. Good work. There's no [laughter] 64 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,400 complaint. >> No, no, but I just we haven't had a 65 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,280 meeting for a while and whatnot. So, >> yeah. 66 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,240 » And I >> That looks good for you, Jordan. And 67 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,668 it's not even election year. >> Yeah. [laughter] 68 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,163 » No, I just got to I got to become the board chair and move to the right side 69 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:11,183 of town to get the right road done. [laughter] 70 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:18,240 » Facilities update. >> Just just a joke. 71 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:23,520 » Fiveyear plan. [laughter] We actually routed everything from town 72 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,759 all the way out. [laughter] Came back on 73 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,639 » spots, but >> Oh, good. That'll make that better. 74 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:35,840 » Are there any other >> uh question on the equipment? Do we 75 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:40,240 maybe maybe this is just on there just to be on there. Do we need a patch 76 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,720 trailer every year? I guess >> um 77 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:47,440 » because there's one in 27, one in 28, and one in 30, and I feel like didn't we 78 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,639 just approve one? Yeah. So, one that would be ultimately pulled off, I guess. 79 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,199 But, >> um, we have one other one, too, that 80 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,440 needs to be replaced, but >> Okay. 81 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,479 » It depends on what year we get it. >> Well, yeah, I understand that, but I 82 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:04,560 just >> ultimately most of those items over 83 00:06:01,919 --> 00:06:12,000 there don't get financed. >> Sure. 84 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:16,560 » Um, so I don't know if there's a plan. So this is just the yellow equipment 85 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,960 program. >> Our trucks are separate to this 86 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:26,479 » trucks are separate. So the the the plow truck um that we know we can afford 87 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:33,280 every year and a pickup. Um other than that it's kind of 88 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:35,840 » and that's through the equipment fund. >> Correct. 89 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,520 Yeah. So >> so this is additional 90 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,400 » this is additional equipment >> outside of equipment fund. 91 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,000 » Yep. that's needed outside the equipment fund. 92 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:51,120 » And this is the one that's truly dependent on fin, you know, if if the 93 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:55,840 financing is there. So, like Roger was saying, there's an equipment fund that 94 00:06:52,560 --> 00:07:02,479 we know we're doing the one truck and hopefully some smaller stuff. Um, that 95 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:08,400 equals what 450 to 500 each year. And then we have uh one truck we usually 96 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:14,240 borrow for. So, that's outside of this yellow in in a sense. And then now this 97 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:18,720 is the new request is this yellow equipment um which we talked about at 98 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:24,479 executive. We've brought it up at the board where that's where the board has 99 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:29,440 to decide are we increasing the debt to start purchasing more equipment or at 100 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:34,560 what rate do you do it? Do you do you know this is a great plan but it needs 101 00:07:31,599 --> 00:07:39,280 to be extended every other year or something with borrowing. 102 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,400 » Yeah. No big items were bought last year. 103 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:47,560 So the year before that was a greater and 104 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,560 boom tractor. 105 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,319 » Came close to buying a wheel loader. >> Yeah, close. 106 00:07:55,919 --> 00:07:59,479 » Any other questions? 107 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,560 » Any questions on the facilities? 108 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:14,479 I think we went over this last time, but the bunkers are to be able to store like 109 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:20,080 rock and stuff out. Yes. At the >> shed. Like 110 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:22,960 is that something that needs to be >> We don't need like a roof or anything 111 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,840 over anything like that. And that'll be out in the middle on the pad. 112 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,720 » Yeah. The old sand pad. >> Okay. 113 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,960 » Yeah. So, no no base or no bottom. It's just concrete blocks. Just the blocking 114 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:34,520 and whatnot. >> Placing them. Yeah. 115 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,200 There aren't any further questions. 116 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:56,880 So, it looks like looks like we have multiple sites where we're storing 117 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:03,680 different things. I see 704 North Lake Avenue, old 13. That's going to sol. I 118 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:09,920 see, you know, building a bunker here, you know, building a building here for 119 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:14,800 tar storage, building a Is there a way of just doing one larger building 120 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,240 for everything versus having like multiple 121 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:21,200 little buildings to maintain? >> Well, so the bunkers don't have any 122 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:26,080 roofs on them or anything. So that's just out on the sand pad, but to store 123 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:32,720 the the tar is just a building cuz now right now it sits outside and when after 124 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:38,000 a period of a winter and some rain and they're it's they're wrapped in 125 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:41,200 cardboard and everything just kind of >> it doesn't weather well outside. 126 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:47,120 » Okay. >> And correct me if I'm wrong, Roger, but 127 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:51,519 just the way our facilities are set up. So our main shop here on 13 has limited 128 00:09:49,279 --> 00:09:55,360 storage. So we have another facility the mile and a half away got to have two 129 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:59,040 loaders there if you have a loader out and so if you need material at both 130 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:04,000 spots just for efficiency wise it makes sense just maybe the logistical side of 131 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,080 it to kind of wrap your head around why he's looking at it that way. Is that 132 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,680 kind of what you're thinking too? >> Yeah. Yeah. 133 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:14,320 » Yeah. >> Didn't we discuss putting the lean two 134 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:18,720 off of the salt shed at one point? >> I believe there was discussion on it. 135 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:22,320 Um, you know, and and there again, I mean, that's kind of one of the spots 136 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,959 where the loader storage would be. >> Sure. 137 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:31,279 » Um, would be like either lean to building or something off, you know, you 138 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:35,040 get into if it's totally enclosed and heated, then you get into all kinds of 139 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,760 regulations that you got to do. So, this would be more cold storage type of where 140 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,200 » three walls. >> Yeah. [laughter] 141 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:47,440 Where we could plug it in, you know, and Yeah. And I think when that was being 142 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:51,600 discussed, wasn't it? We didn't have the the sand shed yet. So the loader was 143 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:55,920 either parked in the salt shed, which is a bad idea to have a loader in salt shed 144 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,320 where now you have the the sand shed that I'm assuming you're able to 145 00:10:56,972 --> 00:11:01,680 [clears throat] use for somewhat of a storage. 146 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:05,760 » Yep. Yeah. So we uh this this summer we ran power out there. So now we can plug 147 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:10,800 in an end loader out by the sand shed. And so 148 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:13,800 small improvements at a time. It's going well. 149 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:23,200 Doug looks in deep thought. You have any comments, Doug? 150 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:29,120 » Not [laughter] really. Just which shop roof are you talking here? Read 151 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:34,480 » it' be like it'd be uh at at the at our main shop here. So that that steel 152 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:39,120 » the new new part or No, the old >> No, that's a flat roof, isn't it? 153 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:45,519 » On the new building. Yeah, the new the phase one is is um yeah, that 154 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:49,279 rubber rough with the stone on it. I I had Josh Josh went up there and looked 155 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:56,160 at it and he said that's that's fine yet. But like um the rock shop and and 156 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,680 going forward that So like there's I don't know what the ceiling and the roof 157 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,920 is made out of, but that stuff's falling down and the insulation's falling down 158 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:04,920 out of the ceiling. 159 00:12:08,399 --> 00:12:13,008 was built in 1939. >> Oh, [laughter] 160 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,760 » some new white tin would probably brighten it up in there a little. 161 00:12:18,848 --> 00:12:20,868 [clears throat] 162 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:26,320 » When that was finished, there was a big beer party there and a picnic and a 163 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:28,320 dance. Oh, 164 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,959 » free beer. You missed, Jordan. >> Were you alive then, Larry? [laughter] 165 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:34,800 In 39? >> Yeah. 166 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,440 » Oh, okay. heard stories. 167 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:40,440 » I paid I paid attention listening to old-timers. 168 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:49,519 » Any other questions on our five-year capital improvement plan? 169 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:54,480 If not, I'll entertain a motion to accept it and pass it on to county board 170 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,800 or does it have to go to executive? >> It would go to the budget process. So, 171 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:03,519 okay. Yeah, I would. You guys are motioning to say this is what we want to 172 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:06,639 forward to the budget and then it'll we'll put it as best we can. The 173 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,880 executive will look at it, then the board will look at it. 174 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,120 » I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Baratka. 175 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:17,760 » I'll second. >> Seconded by Spacic. Any further 176 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:23,839 discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. 177 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:27,920 » I opposed. Motion carried. Rice County Highway Department 178 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:32,839 construction projects to be finished financed with short-term debt in 2027 179 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:39,440 highway and transportation and executive. 180 00:13:37,839 --> 00:13:44,240 Nick, you have something or you want to take 181 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,680 that? Roger. >> I guess it's just the same as every 182 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,839 year, right? For the past few years. >> Yep. So this is just getting ahead of it 183 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:56,399 so that if this is what's going to go in the budget, we can get those what we 184 00:13:54,399 --> 00:14:01,839 like to do is get these resolutions saying we are going to borrow done 185 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:06,560 sooner than later so it's not to the budget process and in November you're 186 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:11,839 trying to get them done. Um this really sets up the budget prior to the budget, 187 00:14:09,839 --> 00:14:15,519 right? Are you going to borrow the 3.1? Are you going to borrow the same for 188 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:21,279 equipment? Are you going to borrow those things? So, it's it's reviewing that to 189 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:26,480 get that process started so that when we put the the budget forward, 190 00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:30,560 those numbers are already in it saying you as a board have made that decision. 191 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,519 It has to be a three-4 vote by the full board to borrow money. 192 00:14:39,839 --> 00:14:47,600 » So, you're looking for a motion on that? >> Yes. I'll make that motion too. 193 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:52,199 » I'll second. >> Motion by all, second by Ericson. 194 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:58,720 » Any further discussion? >> All in favor signify by saying I. 195 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,920 » I. >> Opposed? 196 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,920 So carried. >> Larry, could I ask you a question quick? 197 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:10,639 So for that, I do have a resolution ready, but I didn't put it on the agenda 198 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,079 as a resolution. Do you want that signed today or 199 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,320 » if it's not on the agenda? We can't. >> It's not on the agenda as of 200 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,760 » That's fine. But it was in our mailbox, >> right? It's just a Is this what the 201 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:27,760 amount you want? You want to do the normal amount, the $3.1 million 202 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:32,399 um executive will review it. We have a process. Yeah. So, you guys are 203 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:37,519 comfortable with the 3.1 based on your the list is really what it comes down 204 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:41,300 to. So that's just a preliminary proof of the draft of the resolution. 205 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,300 [laughter] 206 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:49,800 » Are you comfortable with that? Obviously, we'd like more, but 207 00:15:51,839 --> 00:15:57,759 uh that is fine. I mean, we we did a phenomenal amount of work this year. So, 208 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:01,519 um >> was good and dry. 209 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:04,720 » It was good and dry. Yeah. But too dusty. That was it. 210 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,680 » Trust me, I know little Chicago was really dusty last 211 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,776 » three weeks. I couldn't I don't know how people live on gravel roads. [laughter] 212 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:17,839 » So, for now, we're going to treat that as information item. Meredith. 213 00:16:17,199 --> 00:16:23,759 » Correct. >> Do we need to meet before the No. Okay. 214 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Before the next meeting. >> I believe it's a resolution for the 215 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:34,560 future and that's just a number for information and discussion. 216 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:38,480 I'm guessing the question is does does this committee have to approve the 217 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:44,519 resolution before it gets to executive? My feeling is the answer is no, but I 218 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,519 don't know. 219 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:50,160 » Oh, you're asking? [clears throat] >> No, I I I'll have to look at history, 220 00:16:48,079 --> 00:16:54,800 but I it it doesn't need multiple committees to approve it. It's you guys 221 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:59,360 are recommending 3.1 executives building the the the 222 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:03,199 » budget. they'll bring forward a resolution 3.1. 223 00:17:01,811 --> 00:17:07,520 [clears throat] We'll go from there. So, I we'll we have time. We'll we'll we'll 224 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:14,439 map it out and make sure we get everybody, but I think that's just the 225 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,439 that's where we'll go with it. 226 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:27,839 Are you finished, Nick? Okay. Item five, Price County Highway Department 28 227 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:32,640 through 32, equipment improvement program, highway and transportation. 228 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,600 » What's your pleasure on that, gentlemen? >> I'll make a motion to approve the 229 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:39,240 resolution. >> Motion by SPAC. 230 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:48,320 » Second. >> Second by any further discussion? 231 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:56,240 All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. 232 00:17:52,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Item six, resolution for facilities improvement program, highway and 233 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:05,840 transportation. What's your pleasure on that? 234 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:08,880 » I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. 235 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,080 » Motion by Spacic, second by Barata. >> Ericson. 236 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:17,440 » Ericson. >> You got to make sure he's here today. 237 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:23,520 » Might be awake. [laughter] >> Any further discussion? 238 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:27,960 All in favor signify by saying I. I. >> I. 239 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:27,960 » Motion carried. 240 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:38,799 Item number seven has been crossed out. Price County Highway Department policy 241 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:44,320 billing for requested assistance. Roger. >> So the state of Wisconsin is not taking 242 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:49,520 on any more customers. Correct. So as far as when it comes to 243 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:53,760 » we've been put on the list. So when they do because they have too many 244 00:18:51,280 --> 00:19:00,960 outstanding customers right now once they reopen up then we'll be contacted 245 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:06,799 to apply but they do have a trip that we could apply for if we wanted to 246 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:11,600 » tax refund um plan. 247 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,799 Excuse me. Would you like to use the microphone 248 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,880 on mine? I'm fine. >> You don't have a choice. Use the 249 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,200 microphone. >> I can hear you well but [laughter] 250 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:24,880 We don't charge for that. Sarah can sit right there and use that. 251 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:30,039 » You can use any of these. Yeah. >> Sarah likes to remain in the back row 252 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,039 silent. 253 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:37,039 » I'm trying to make Roger remember everything. 254 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:42,640 » Good luck. [laughter] >> So, currently the state doesn't take any 255 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:46,960 more customers because of the fact that they have too many outstanding ones that 256 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:51,039 they're going after. So, we've been put on a list. So when they do start taking 257 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:56,960 people back in, they'll contact us and then we can go through that process. 258 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Right now they do have a trip one that we could do if we wanted to, which is 259 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:08,640 tax refund inception plan. Um that one though 260 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:13,919 isn't, you know, that's kind of a base by base kind of situation though. That's 261 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:17,720 not actually an agreement with them long term, per se. 262 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:31,280 I got at this point we'll just do as we previously we'll try and build on on 263 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:36,080 instances like this whether or not we can get the the landowner to to 264 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:41,280 reimburse us through their insurance or whatever happens at this point. 265 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:44,960 » This is for assistance on uh emergencies. 266 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:50,640 » Yep. So if we get called out on for whatever it is and um 267 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:56,720 that we can try to recoup some of our funds from I mean especially like when 268 00:20:53,200 --> 00:21:01,120 we have a guy go out twice on a weekend you know we're paying overtime it gets 269 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:04,919 expensive by the time we send equipment and and men out. 270 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Okay. 271 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:16,720 So for now that's anformational item. >> Correct. 272 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:20,559 » Item nine, highway mechanic recruitment. 273 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,520 » Roger. >> So we have been reaching out to other 274 00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:29,159 counties. I believe Sarah has most of that information. 275 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:38,760 » You're going to make me talk on all of this, aren't you? Um, so I reached out 276 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,760 to the surrounding, 277 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:46,600 let me just pull it up. Um, counties around us. 278 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Ashland, Iron, Lincoln, Onida, Rusk, Sawyer, Taylor, and Vias. So we have 279 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:04,320 most of them have anywhere between 10 years of service to one year. Bus has 280 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:11,120 turnover in the last three years. Um, and 281 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:18,799 the wages range anywhere from like Ashlin currently has 27 and 26. 282 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Iron is at 31 and a half. Lincoln is they start at 2566. 283 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:32,799 Um, Onida does have two positions which is mechanic and fabricator. 284 00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:36,480 Um, and then theirs is 285 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:44,320 the mechanic makes more than the fabricator does. And then Rusk starts at 286 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,520 24. They actually have open positions in shops and they have been trying to get 287 00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:56,559 somebody to fill that for quite some time. Sawyer County is at $28. Taylor 288 00:22:53,280 --> 00:23:00,799 County starts at 26 and they go all the way up to 34. 289 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:06,559 And then Vias County has three different positions. They have uh an assistant 290 00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:11,360 shop supervisor which is below the shop supervisor 291 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:15,600 uh mechanist and a mechanic. The mechanist does have a diesel 292 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:22,080 mechanic degree. And they do prefer that a mechanic has 293 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:27,360 at least two years of experience and knowledge and willingness and experience 294 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:32,720 for large trucks. and their mechanic starts at 25 and goes 295 00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:36,000 up to 32 and then their mechanic gets $2 extra. 296 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:40,480 So >> which county was that? 297 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:45,360 » Vias county. >> What is our current range? 298 00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:50,559 » Starting then top >> 20 2435 to 2841. 299 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:53,120 » Okay. Thanks. >> All right. And the counties that we 300 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,080 mentioned like the ones that are a little higher are higher on every job 301 00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:01,520 across the board and the ones that are a little lower are right. So we're 302 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:06,240 mechanic pay our pay is right in range I think. What 303 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:13,960 » they're mechanic they do Onida does say that mechanics get $3 more than their um 304 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,960 operators. 305 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:20,320 So they're in the they're in the same range as their operators but they get 306 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,279 $3. So they're in the same c kind kind of like ours. They're in the same 307 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:28,080 categories, but they get $3 more. I think that's kind of where we're having 308 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:33,440 that issue, right? >> Do [laughter] 309 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,039 do our do the mechanics get the November to April bump. 310 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:39,520 » Yep. >> Yeah. [clears throat] 311 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:42,960 » Which is what dollar and a half or two? >> Dollar and a half. 312 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:47,120 » Then anything outside of their 10 hours or shift or whatever it is. So 313 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:51,200 » again, I don't think it's wages compared to other counties that that based on 314 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:54,320 » No, it's not county to county. It's the outside world, 315 00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:00,799 » right? But also the outside world doesn't offer, you know, we talked to 316 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:05,600 previous employers of those type of jobs in the area. They don't have 401ks. They 317 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:09,520 Well, they have a 401k usually, but not like we do where it's matched WRS. They 318 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:15,039 don't have health insurance. If it is, it's really expensive. So, it's the 319 00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:20,799 benefits offset that $2 or $3 that you're seeing at these other outside 320 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:27,679 agencies. Um, a lot of the discussion we've had and and looked at is 321 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,440 if we were to go to like a tiered system where it's like we have a mechanic tech 322 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:35,679 where it's there's a job description that says these are the basic skill sets 323 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:41,760 you need to have. Cool. Some days you're going to work with on bigger things than 324 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:47,520 what the general job description is. And then you re have a mechanics one that 325 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:52,320 has to have a degree that has to have a specific or not degree but certificate. 326 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:57,279 And with that you get additional pay. You're expected to work on bigger 327 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:01,919 things. The biggest problem is right now, you know, you send off a job 328 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:06,400 somewhere else. It costs you a little bit more. Are you going to recover that 329 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:10,240 if you have somebody that allegedly could do it right? Do you are you going 330 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:16,000 to cover that cost by saying, "Okay, we're going to keep that fix inhouse. 331 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:20,400 You saved a couple bucks there." Our problem historically is even if you 332 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:26,080 said, "I wanted a diesel mechanic or a specialized thing." is we struggle 333 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:30,400 recruiting in northern Wisconsin and we end up going cool. You're really eager 334 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:36,240 to learn and you're good at fixing the tractor or the you're you were owned a 335 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:41,360 semitr or whatever it might be and we say come work for us and they do a great 336 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:46,720 job but then you're not following what you put in place to try to recruit those 337 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:51,840 hire you know those spec specific things. So, say we did a tiered system 338 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:55,279 here. It'd be dangerous to say, "Okay, well, you've been here five years, you 339 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,360 get that, but that's not actually what we're recruiting or trying to entice to 340 00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:04,799 come here." So, you still have the open position at the the tech version. 341 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:08,000 » I do think it's a branding thing, too. Like, right, we're recruiting for 342 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:13,200 mechanics. So, only mechanics are seeing that, seeing, well, I can go work X, Y, 343 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:18,320 or Z and get five bucks more an hour. It may be, do we actually are we actually 344 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:22,320 looking for a mechanic with a a certification or are we looking to make 345 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,440 sure we have somebody that can get the little stuff done, keep the trucks 346 00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:33,919 moving until we can get them to the get the motor rebuilt somewhere else. So 347 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,960 again, we're we're working towards a solution. I don't want to jump into a 348 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:43,840 solution that's just going to, you know, snowball us 349 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:49,120 » somewhere else. To me, if a mechanic should cover everything from replacing a 350 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:54,159 light bulb to being able to overhaul an engine or a transmission, 351 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:58,080 and I >> I would hope we could find somebody like 352 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:04,240 that. >> And if if we go to a a tiered system or 353 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:07,679 a technician, is he going to say, "Well, that's not 354 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,320 that's not my job. I'm not going to change a truck tire. I'm not going to 355 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,919 » Yeah, that's a management >> change out a truck spring. 356 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:17,760 » That's a management issue. You know, if someone came to Roger, right, or not 357 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,360 Roger, but if Roger went to Vance right now and said, "You're changing that tire 358 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:24,399 tire." Vance should be out there helping change that. I mean, that's just other 359 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,320 duties as assigned. >> So, if you get somebody with that 360 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,640 attitude, that's not who you want working for you. Um, so that that's a 361 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,960 different issue. >> So, just 362 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:40,240 » Oh, you had a question. Yeah, just a thought here and maybe it's way off the 363 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:44,480 mark, but a lot of what I'm hearing is the new employees coming in don't want 364 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,919 they don't look at the benefits, they look at the dollar, the the wage they're 365 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:55,039 getting. [sighs and gasps] Is it too much of an issue to have 366 00:28:53,120 --> 00:29:00,000 you come in at this wage that's on our scale, you get the benefits that we 367 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:04,720 have, which are all laid out, or you come in and you get this hourly wage. 368 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:12,640 These are your benefits you get, but your perks, your um um boot allowance, 369 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:17,279 whatever it might be that's an extra perk that they're not looking at is 370 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,919 actually incorporated into their hourly wage for the year. So that's the wage 371 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,440 that they get, but they don't get all the side of stuff on the side. Give the 372 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:29,520 employee coming in or even the employees that are here the option, I want the 373 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,520 hourly wage and no benefit, no perks. >> Yeah. Now, I know that's I know I know 374 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:37,279 said no. I know I I know where you're going with this. I I know I know I know 375 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,399 where you're going with this, but just hear me out a second. 376 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,000 » I understand it's not going to be easy. >> Yeah. 377 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,600 » Can it be done? I'm just throwing something out there to think about. 378 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,880 » We can with WRS we can legally not do that. Say, "Hey, you work for us and not 379 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:53,200 get it. After 1,200 hours, you automatically qualify for now. There's a 380 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:56,240 different way to look at >> WRS has nothing to do with the perks 381 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,320 benefit." >> But that's a huge benefit. the per but 382 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,600 then everybody would say I don't want to turn in my receipts it's a pain in the 383 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:07,679 butt for an employee to return and just give me the thousand bucks or 500 bucks 384 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,840 » so it's on their wage and we get the wage 385 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,360 » but the reason we did a program like that is it's a reminder that you got 386 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:17,600 something every quarter rather than oh my wage 8 cents what I think we could 387 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,919 look at >> and this is again I'm just because we're 388 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:27,520 spitballing in the middle of a meeting which is always dangerous but 389 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,799 » do we instead of employees do we look at contractors. 390 00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:34,559 You come in, you have to have all your own tools. We'll pay you 35 bucks an 391 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:38,559 hour, but you're a contractor, you got to pay your own insuranceances, you got 392 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,919 to pay all your own stuff. You come in, we give you the facility, 393 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:46,240 » sit down and be a, you know, you're a contractor. I know there's a lot of 394 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:52,720 businesses that look at, you know, what are you a W9er employee instead of a W2? 395 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,640 » It may be an option. Um, >> are those people out there? Is that 396 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,279 anybody? And again, like >> somebody who's done this in the past 397 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,880 just I got a message. It's like maybe it's $40. Maybe it's $50 an hour that 398 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:09,440 says, but then we don't have that 4550. We don't have all the costs on it. But 399 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:14,640 then I would guess two months into it when that person goes, I'm paying 15% my 400 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:19,840 um self-employment tax. I have to do both sides of the social security. I 401 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,640 have to do all my own expenses. I don't have health insurance. They'll see real 402 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,480 quick, >> but somebody might want that. There may 403 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,840 be a contractor out there that wants to be just give me a spot and I'll fix all 404 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,200 your stuff. >> Yeah. And and I'm not saying go to that. 405 00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:36,640 I'm just throwing ideas out there because it sounds like we're stuck. 406 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:40,799 We're stuck between what Roger would like to see and we're stuck between what 407 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:44,960 admin's looking for and we're trying to digest how do we move forward here to 408 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:50,480 get something accomplished. So I'm like I said I am not so for HR out there. I'm 409 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,399 not saying you I'm just saying that let's look at every possible option we 410 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:58,799 can which is what we talked about last week and what have we looked at out from 411 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,480 last meeting. What did we look at differently than what we've been working 412 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320 on? >> Yeah. 413 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,919 » I don't think we're stuck. I think we're just being cautious because if you do 414 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:11,559 this there's a domino effect, right? Because then all of a sudden the social 415 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,559 workers go, "Well, we're strugg 416 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:18,480 we we need this and we it's it's the domino effect that really, you know, the 417 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:23,440 wages aren't wrong. I mean, you listed off all the regional wages. It's it's a 418 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:29,200 people problem. We don't now do we create a schooling program. come work 419 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:32,880 for us as a uh tech and we'll school you and we'll 420 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,360 get you the certifications and you stick with 421 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,840 » I mean we basically do that for the other 422 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,200 » the sheriff's department and the >> social workers 423 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:44,559 » worker CDLs but we've also been burned on that also. 424 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,679 » Yeah. >> Getting burned in the past doesn't mean 425 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:53,200 we don't continue to do something in the future because you know one person is 426 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:59,919 one person um when it comes to that. >> Yeah. Um, 427 00:32:54,559 --> 00:33:05,039 » Nick, are wages still figured as uh 50% of your your hourly rate 428 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:09,440 » uh benefits? Yeah. So, it's always tough. We use about a 40% but like I 429 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,080 think you said there the act your rates a little higher. 430 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:16,640 » Our turn rate right now is 68. >> Yes. 68%. So, you figure you have 431 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:22,000 somebody making 50,000. A health insurance plan's 34 for family. So, then 432 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,440 you had to add 6% on top for WRS. You got to, you know, your FICA, social 433 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:29,200 security, that's where it all of a sudden it accelerates real quick on the 434 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:32,000 total percent. >> Even that $2 an hour really multiplies 435 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,679 quickly. >> Yep. 436 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:38,080 » Absolutely. >> So, I think we need to keep working. I 437 00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:42,080 think maybe it is a schooling thing. Maybe it 438 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:47,600 is a expectations thing. Um I I just I get 439 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,679 nervous with just adding steps because then we 440 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,360 » just go, "Oh, you've been here the longest. Put move up." And then 441 00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:58,320 » and the number of people in the shop aren't that many. So if you start 442 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:02,399 tiering them pretty quickly, everybody's going to know who everybody is from a 443 00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:05,600 tier perspective as well. >> The Yeah, 444 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:10,480 » I like the education piece of it because again, you know, trying to encourage 445 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:14,159 folks in EMS, I know apprentice analysts will pay for insurance or pay for the 446 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:19,679 tuition if you go on to be an EMT as long as you stay there for X number. you 447 00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:25,919 know, growing them from the inside and and getting them rotated up. 448 00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:29,440 You can you can train people to be a mechanic, but you can't train somebody 449 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,119 to have the right attitude to come to work. So, if you find the right person, 450 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:37,839 you can train them to do just about anything, you know, 451 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:41,440 » and it would be interesting to look at like so if you found an individual who's 452 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,320 interested in getting their we would call a certificate, right? We'll we'll 453 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:47,280 assist you with getting your certificate. You'll get paid while 454 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:51,119 you're, you know, if you have a couple classes, whatever. We social workers, 455 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,720 it's always at night and weekends, but they get test days. They have to go get 456 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,560 take a test. But say you look at a certificate program, maybe it takes them 457 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:03,839 a year or two to get through that while they're working here. Well, if we can 458 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:06,960 get somebody that year two to four, a lot of times they stick around because 459 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,520 then they start to see the WRS, they start to see the health insurance, they 460 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:15,520 start like you got to get them in the loop. So, it may be a 461 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:20,960 » and that's an easy fix, right? We go to the admin, you add it to the handbook, 462 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,839 and you um work through that program, and then you 463 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,320 advertise saying, "Look, we're looking for eager individuals who have the 464 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:33,040 ability to fix things, and we'll help you with your certificate." 465 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,800 » The thing is with an outside contractor, you know, you aren't going to find 466 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:45,359 anybody to come and work for you for 50 or $60 an hour. It's going to be a 467 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:49,359 minimum of 100 up to 150 or or more. >> Yeah. I know when you when we call Fabic 468 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,560 to come and work on something, it's usually $1,000 just a drive to us and 469 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:56,079 back. >> And that that's not even the hourly wage 470 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,400 with the mechanic's getting paid. >> That's a business 471 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:05,920 contractor and there's probably not enough work for that individual 40 hours 472 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,440 or even 30 hours a week. You know, >> one of the problems up here is there 473 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,520 just not enough people go by the front door. 474 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,680 » No. >> You know, it's 475 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:20,400 » seems like Price County is more of either you're here retired or it's a 476 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,720 seasonal home, >> you know. 477 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:29,839 » Yeah. Well, uh, in the census, the last two, uh, census have been going down and 478 00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:36,160 we're beginning to be a retirement county up here. Would there is another 479 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:42,480 unique way to look at is there a county that we could combine with that to have 480 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:46,720 a certified person that bounces back and forth? You know, would it be easier to 481 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:51,359 recruit somebody to, you know, for the bigger stuff that 482 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:57,040 works multiple locations? 483 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:00,240 I know everybody needs mechanics. So, >> I think it'd be pretty hard to pull a 484 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,240 mechanic out of somebody's shop cuz as soon as that guy comes up here or here 485 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,440 or wherever, they're going to be calling. It's like, "This broke down. 486 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,960 » We need him back." >> And you [laughter] get you split it two 487 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,760 days a week at each one. So, he gets a half a project done each week and and 488 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,599 whatnot. And that's >> No. And again, throwing everything out 489 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:21,359 there, but I do like the education piece if that's, you know, there may be 490 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,800 » and we don't want to do age, but an individual that's out there that's, you 491 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,680 know, I really want to do this and it's expensive to get those kind of 492 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:33,200 certificates. And >> but what certificates do you list that 493 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,960 help increase your rate? That's the hard part. 494 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:41,920 » I mean, what do we need to have them working on our stuff? What is the 495 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:46,560 expectation? I I I guess I'm assuming is it Rinlander or Wasau the technical 496 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,200 colleges that would be offering these types of certifications or would we have 497 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:55,280 that in Phillips here? >> No Valley Tech is good. 498 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:58,880 » I don't think Was >> you know so so ultimately you'd want a 499 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:04,560 person that's you know very good in diesel mechanics. Um the ability to you 500 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:09,440 know everything now is you hook up a computer and be able to read. Tom does a 501 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:14,800 very good job at that. Um, but you know, Tom is really the only 502 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:19,040 guy that's that's decent on a computer. I mean, there's periodically once in a 503 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:23,119 while we'll have a guy come and and assist Tom and help him find things 504 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:27,200 which he's also learning at the same time. 505 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:30,560 » So, from let's let's let's unpack that for a 506 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:36,000 second. So, you're saying that there's staff members currently that are not 507 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:40,400 techsavvy. there. 508 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:44,800 » Well, you know, as new trucks come, there's there's new 509 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,599 parts and components to these trucks. They it changes every year as as the 510 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,040 next >> absolutely 511 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:54,560 » tier tier comes of of the diesel. Um things are changed with it. 512 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,920 » So, and they're also on our end, me and me and Mike have talked, you know, maybe 513 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,760 at some point here too, we're going to have to look at updating our computer 514 00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:06,320 and our programming that what we can communicate with the trucks with. Mhm. 515 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:10,400 » Um cuz right now we have we have issues with the Kenworth communicating with the 516 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:16,000 Kenworth and getting the information from our laptop to the Kenworth to 517 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:20,960 actually diagnose some of these issues. So I mean when it comes down to I mean 518 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:26,800 the ideal candidate would be he would be very good at at that part and he would 519 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:31,680 be good at um just the components of the new tier system on the diesel and 520 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:36,079 diagnosing those issues. Um, transmissions are another one of our 521 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:40,000 issues, you know, cuz this this deaf stuff kind of does kill us a bit. You 522 00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:43,200 know, it's hard on the trucks with our with our plow trucks that the rate of 523 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:48,000 speed that they're going, you know, they're going 25 30 m an hour, they seem 524 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:53,040 like they want to regenerate a lot and we're having issues with the I don't 525 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:59,119 know, I I botch it, but like the dowsing rods or something or dowsies for the 526 00:39:56,017 --> 00:40:03,440 [gasps] the deaf system. Um, so yeah, then they'll go into limp mode and now 527 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,480 you got a truck stuck at the at the time it's always the 528 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,599 farthest point of the county away it seems like, you know, and then you got 529 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:12,640 to try and get this truck back to the shop. 530 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:16,720 » They can drive 5 miles an hour. It takes >> but at a certain point the truck just 531 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:20,400 says enough is enough and then it quits. the, you know, the crux of this 532 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,720 situation here is we have equipment that's predef. 533 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,599 » Yeah. >> And but I guess where I was going with 534 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:41,680 your with your comment about, you know, having one or two people that have that 535 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:47,680 that exp I'll say expertise to do that. Is there a way that we can expand that 536 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:52,320 and have a bigger depth and breath of individuals that can can do that? And 537 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:58,640 what does it take to do that? Is that a internal inservices? Is that internal 538 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:03,760 competencies? What what does it take to become proficient at reading diagnostic 539 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:08,720 equipment? Is that from the vendor that we get the equipment from training more 540 00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:12,880 staff on how to how to use it? >> I guess Jeeoff, I've never really 541 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:18,079 researched it. I'm sure that there's, you know, classes at NTC that would help 542 00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:21,839 assist somebody with that. How long the class takes? I don't know. I mean, is it 543 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:26,319 is it 6 months? >> Right. Yeah. Is it a is it a two two 544 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,720 day, eight hour class? Is it a like you say, is it a six-month thing? I I don't 545 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:34,880 know. But again, just having that additional knowledge within the folks 546 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:41,280 that we currently have and then that to build on with who we have to get to the 547 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:44,240 other pieces of this puzzle. Again, just like Nick said, talking out loud in the 548 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:49,440 middle of a meeting and brainstorming can be dangerous, but um just trying to 549 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:54,640 think of it outside of the box type of deal. So, 550 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,720 » does the manufacturers offer classes like a new truck? Do they 551 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:03,920 » Not that I've seen though. you know, they, you know, so usually like if you 552 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:08,319 buy a, you know, a truck with a whatever Detroit and the transmission, I think 553 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:12,319 you can go to the dealer and get all the information to put on your laptop so 554 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:18,160 that way you can talk to that truck, >> scan the QR code. 555 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:22,480 » Yeah. You know, um, and but as far as classings for diagnos, I 556 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:25,960 that I don't know. I never really researched that. 557 00:42:26,319 --> 00:42:34,800 And I don't know what the technical colleges in the area offer, whether it's 558 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:39,280 Chipo Valley or Wasau, Rhineland or Marshfield. Um, again, I'm kind of out 559 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:44,240 of that loop, unfortunately. >> Sure. And I guess I I don't know. Is 560 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,720 this committee good with the department sending people off for things like these 561 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,920 if this is in the future if this is what we need even not just looking for an 562 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,920 individual but just our current staff to try and keep them up to date with what 563 00:42:57,359 --> 00:43:02,000 we have >> and some of the problems that happen 564 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:05,920 with this equipment the dealerships are throwing their hands up so we we don't 565 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:10,160 know what to do with it we can't fix it. >> Yeah. The other part of the training 566 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,720 part is and it's always a struggle for training for everybody and staff is the 567 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,079 time. Y >> I mean you got a limited amount of staff 568 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,079 basically to do the work you got to do. Where do you find the time to train 569 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,440 them? >> And I know you struggle with that just 570 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:25,040 on your required trainings. Now we throw in some other stuff that is another 571 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,359 complication. So >> like I said, it's not a not a simple 572 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,560 issue. >> The hard part is without training, you 573 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,079 fall farther and farther behind and then >> Exactly. 574 00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:37,760 » it you're gonna have to grow people. That that's the only way to succeed. And 575 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:42,079 it's going to save you money to send somebody for two days to go learn 576 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:46,720 something or like I said, if we can hire a eager individual and train them up and 577 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:50,160 get them for the next 20 years, you're you're way ahead. 578 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,839 » And and do they have a train to trainer model where you get your super users 579 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:57,119 here that are training your other staff at whatever staff meetings or whatever 580 00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:02,640 you have that way. So, >> and historically, we've had some really 581 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:06,319 good mechanics that they're lone wolves, right? They want to just 582 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,839 » let me be good at what I'm good at and I don't want to train. And that's 583 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,520 » hard to go, hey, I don't want to lose you because I'm gonna force you to train 584 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:17,599 somebody. But also, >> we need your help to make sure we're 585 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:24,160 better here. And >> there's Yeah, we can look at through 586 00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:29,599 admin to start paying for certificates in that area. That 587 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:34,160 it's a good first start. Again, based on Sarah's research, it's not we're not in 588 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:40,560 a we're not in a unique situation. This is a across the state, mechanics, 589 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:46,560 highway in general, jobs in general for a lot of our positions. So, we'll keep 590 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:50,480 working at it. >> Okay. I guess that's the best we can do 591 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:54,800 on that for for today. >> We still haven't had any applicants come 592 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,800 in the last month and a half, month, whatever. 593 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:06,960 Okay. Well, that's an information item. We'll keep working on it. Number 10, 594 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:13,040 Whistler report. >> Yep. So, you got uh I shared the 595 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:17,280 Whistler report. Um I believe I don't know, Meredith, if you can pull up like 596 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:20,800 the Whistler report from last year or not. I tried Nick sent an email right 597 00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:23,520 before [laughter] I was leaving the office and I was like, 598 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,119 "Well, >> you got it." And and sorry I was the one 599 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:31,200 that sent it late last night because I thought about and and in reference to 600 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:36,640 the email for everybody else is I think on the last page there shows the w kind 601 00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,839 of the conditions of ranges from 1 to 10. 602 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,640 » Yeah. >> The question my that I asked Nick that 603 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:48,000 he referred to Roger is can we look at that graph but take and have five years 604 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,680 worth of data to see is our whistle report trending better or worse 605 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:54,961 depending based off the monies that we've been investing in. I'll tell you 606 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,640 right now it's trending better. [laughter] 607 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,680 » So, >> exactly. But numbers speak volume. 608 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,839 » This number right here, >> the 18 point. 609 00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:07,280 » Yeah. Up in the 50s, >> right? But it's just a nice visual to 610 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,920 show. >> And I don't know in Whistler if I could 611 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:16,480 get a five-year graph like this or not. Um I I'll I'll do some digging, but I at 612 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:22,240 first glance in Whistler, I couldn't find it. I think uh I'm a packrat and I 613 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:24,319 bet you I could find the one I presented when we first started the funding thing. 614 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,560 So >> Oh, I think I've got one in my drawer 615 00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:31,760 here, but >> you might take a lot of digging. 616 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,920 » So, I spoke with Jules and she'll send it 617 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,319 » to the highway department at the end of the day. I do have it in my files if you 618 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,760 want. >> Okay. I didn't know I didn't know if 619 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,599 somebody could print it off and share. >> Yeah, I could share it on the screen if 620 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,920 you'd like. >> Okay, that would be good. 621 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:48,079 » Last year's >> Yep. So this would be just from so we 622 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:54,400 would see the difference from what we did last year compared to so if you look 623 00:46:52,319 --> 00:47:01,200 at what we did this year. So, which we did county highway D and H with D. Uh 624 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:07,599 that portion of D was in a three to four and a portion of H was in a was in a one 625 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:12,480 a one to two. And then also um which over on the far 626 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:12,720 side Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y 627 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:19,520 Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y Y so so we assisted Lincoln County 628 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:23,680 um with 7 miles. So that you you can see that's in a 3 to four. So that that 629 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:28,880 that'll be dropping off as well. So that'll be going into a 10. 630 00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:37,200 Um so we are growing and and if you look everywhere it's green, that's what we've 631 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:42,720 done in the last um five years. Um which I'll tell you right now is is huge 632 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:47,599 compared to most adjacent counties as far as mileage in in the in in a year. 633 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:52,800 Um, but as you can see, there is a lot of red left on this map 634 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:56,079 » that we haven't touched yet. >> And the the lion share of that is 635 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,920 because we've been borrowing money to fix the roads and that's about the only 636 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,560 way it's going to get done anymore. >> Absolutely. Yeah. 637 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:13,880 » So, you can see where your investment is going. Mhm. 638 00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:18,800 » Also, the number's going to change because D&H aren't on 639 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:22,559 » on >> on this. Correct. 640 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,800 » So, you're going to take 17 miles out of the 1 to four range and put it in the 9 641 00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:34,079 to 10 range. >> So, 16 16 miles of DNH and then three 642 00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:38,640 and a half of of Y is ours. >> Yeah. So, 20 miles basically is coming 643 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,559 off of the one to four and going to the 10. Y 644 00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:43,760 » should be a 10. >> So yeah, I mean we we did 20 miles of 645 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:47,440 new asphalt this year. >> Yeah. 646 00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:51,839 » Yeah. Uh kudos to our guys for having D&H shouldered. I drove by Y on Monday 647 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,000 and it's still not done and I feel like that was done getting paved a while ago 648 00:48:53,359 --> 00:49:01,520 already. >> So I um Jason and Jason Leurs in Lincoln 649 00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:07,520 County is in charge of the shouldering aspect. They're they're having issues 650 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:12,240 with the DNR um getting permitting on a pit that they were in previously. So, 651 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:17,440 and then now getting his contractor in to do the crushing. So, um yeah. So, 652 00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:20,689 » all complaints I've been pushing it over to Jason. [laughter] 653 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,079 » Can you go down to the percentage? 654 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,119 » Oh, got to rotate that one too. Yeah. 655 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,000 There we go. 656 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,880 » So then, >> so what you're saying, Roger, then on 657 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:53,599 this on this particular graph, the section one and twos and threes and 658 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:57,440 fours have not been taken out of the stuff that you've done this year. 659 00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:02,400 » Correct. Yep. So as we update Whistler now after the projects are done. So 660 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:05,960 you'll we'll see that change after the roadway is complete 661 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:25,040 » I'm going to share quick too. So yesterday or Monday the um 662 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:30,720 the it's called the green book by Ford Analytics came out. So when we discuss 663 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:34,400 spending so you can pick demographics economic development financing so total 664 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:39,920 spending but if you go to highway spending 665 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:47,119 um it it goes by county um and it's so it's anything in the light blue is up to 666 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:53,760 $114 per person. 114 to 161 is the medium blue. If you go to green, it's 667 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:59,040 $161 to $215 and then more than $215 per person that you spend on your highways. 668 00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:03,599 So, if you hover over our region, it tells you how much. So, Price County 669 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:10,079 does spend a lot per person. So, we spend $477 per person uh on our highway 670 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:14,880 system each year. Uh Sawyer County is also in that dark color. They spend 218. 671 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:20,240 So, we double most counties when it comes to the high. Rusk is at 376. 672 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:24,640 They're unique. Uh, if you follow Rusk County, they did like a $10 million bond 673 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:28,079 like four years ago and spent it all the first year and then now they're just 674 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:32,319 paying for it. So, they're not doing multiple projects every year where we're 675 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:35,920 in and out, in and out. And so, we're in a sense a different way ahead because 676 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:41,200 they tried to do something, but then they just were like one big kick at it 677 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:48,800 and then it was like, but now what? Um, >> uh, Taylor County is 199, Iron's 229, 678 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:54,000 Ashland's 162. Again, we hear about Ashland and they don't do a lot of 679 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:57,520 projects. Um, >> does that include state work? Do you 680 00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,480 know the money that the dollars? >> I believe this is what you put on your 681 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:05,119 levy for >> Okay. 682 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:09,839 » Um, county spending. So, again, we're I think we were the highest in the Oh, 415 683 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:16,400 here. So, Adams, we're still higher, but Adams County, Marquette's 351, 684 00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:21,920 Green Lakes 269. The The hardest Oh, Iowa County, $747 per person. 685 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,440 » Yeah. Right. >> We highlight [clears throat] them. 686 00:52:23,381 --> 00:52:27,920 [laughter] >> Yeah. The hardest part is like if you 687 00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:31,839 actually look at like a Brown County, it says $90 per person, but they're 688 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,839 spending a hundred times what we spend on road work and they have 689 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,680 » per capita and they have less roads, right? So that's the problem is per 690 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:44,160 miles is really what you should >> Yeah. How many miles of county road are 691 00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:47,760 there in Brown County? >> I couldn't I mean there is a I can look 692 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,760 it up. Yeah. >> Um 693 00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:55,440 » are you able to share this link? >> Yeah, it's a forward analytics thing. It 694 00:52:52,079 --> 00:53:01,280 went out with WCA last on Monday, but it does you know spending per person total 695 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,400 spending. You know we are not the highest in our region even though 696 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:09,359 everybody says we have high taxes. We're at 100 or $1,887 697 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:14,240 per person where Iron County is at $3,730 698 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:20,960 per person. Ashlin's at $1,900. Bayfield 2,400. Sawyer 1,900. Rust 699 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:25,200 2,300. So, it feels like we spend a lot, but regionally 700 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:29,280 we're we're not as >> 117 miles of county trunk road 701 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,760 » in Price County. >> In Brown County. 702 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:37,559 » Oh, in Brown. And we're 451 lane miles. So, what's that? 703 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,559 » Two7. 704 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:46,800 » Do we don't get to counter summer res? [laughter] 705 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:50,240 » No. >> So, anyways, it's a it's an interesting 706 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:54,960 way to look at it. And I get it. It's tough. We we have high numbers, but 707 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:59,119 » um yeah, >> Nick, do you know is that Doug had a 708 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:03,599 good point there. Is that per capita of uh residents in the county or taxpayers 709 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:06,319 period in the county? >> Uh residents 710 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:09,359 » residents. So we're not that's my understand 711 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,599 » 50% of our our tax base. >> Yeah. [laughter] 712 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:16,640 » You know >> 14,000 people. 713 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:20,720 » Yeah. But Dor County is huge in vacation stuff. 714 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:25,920 » Yeah. So I mean it's an interesting because like county property tax rate so 715 00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:29,839 a percentage. I mean across the state there's a lot of dark colors and there's 716 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:34,160 a lot of light colors but again it comes down to value of property and and all 717 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:38,319 those things and it changes real quick if you have a good equalized value year. 718 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,920 But just something to play with in the future. It's your green book 719 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:45,880 information. >> But we do spend on highways. 720 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,599 » Well, at least it's moving in the right direction. 721 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:58,079 » Yeah. Slowly but surely slow slowly but surely 722 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:03,359 going on the tracks. Right, Larry? >> Sir, any other questions on the Whistler 723 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,599 report? >> Any comments 724 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:16,960 information item construction report for county highways D and H? Yeah. So, 725 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:21,359 County Highway D um and H the shouldering is done. So, what basically 726 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:25,440 what we have left after today, they're going to a little bit of shouldering 727 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:29,920 left today. Um, they're going to be uh doing driveways and then the line 728 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:35,280 painting is going to be um coming potentially in the next two weeks. So, 729 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:41,440 th those projects will be finished up. Um all the guardrails been done on the 730 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:49,240 two bridges on County Highway D. Um and the additional signs were added 731 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:49,240 that was a part of the HISA project. Um, 732 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,359 and then after after this it's just going to be maintenance items for the 733 00:55:53,359 --> 00:56:01,119 rest of the rest of the season. Transition in winter. 734 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:06,400 » Can I ask you online painting county A from North A? Is that happening this 735 00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:10,319 year or not? >> Um, I guess I'd have to talk to Vance if 736 00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:13,599 he if that's on the list for updating center line. 737 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:17,520 » I just know the white lines there is none this morning, but They're faded 738 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:26,000 bad. >> Yeah, we we've done can all we did D or 739 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:28,160 not D um B north or B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 740 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:33,359 B B B B B B B B B B B A South B parts of E um through Lugerville F. I mean, line 741 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,599 painting is expensive. >> Is that something that you have 742 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:45,040 rotation? You just so many >> each year? Yeah, we try to do um 20 to 743 00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:49,119 30 miles of line painting a year, but um and ultimately you don't want to paint 744 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:54,319 what you're going to do coming up shortly for new asphalt. But yeah, that 745 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,640 piece of A isn't really on the radar yet, but 746 00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:14,400 any other questions on D and H comments? Turned out well. 747 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,040 » The ride, I think, could have been a little bit better, but 748 00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:21,464 yeah, >> you got to get a newer vehicle. 749 00:57:19,444 --> 00:57:21,464 [laughter] 750 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,240 Take your pickup. Not a triacle. >> Yeah. 751 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:34,480 » Okay. I'll accept the report on DNH 752 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,359 department reports. Roger. 753 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:42,799 » Um I don't have a lot. I didn't besides 754 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:46,319 that my day-to-day stuff. Um they did transition a little bit out of 755 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:53,200 so [snorts] um WCHA did merge some committees 756 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:57,359 together. So now it is I got to look here and see 757 00:57:55,839 --> 00:58:00,720 utility um 758 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:06,240 and TAC and Acme all con merged. So now it's 759 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:13,680 tech advisory and engineering standards committee. So um which 760 00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:19,440 Um, basically they're just kind of putting more people in in uh in one 761 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:24,000 committee and then just smaller subcommittees off of that now. So 762 00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:30,319 there's still tech advisory subcommittee and a utility subcommittee. Um, that's 763 00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:34,160 the only thing really new at WCHA. Um 764 00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:41,599 other than that I mean I'll be October I'll be couple conferences a bridge 765 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:46,799 preservation conference and uh airport and tribal 766 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:52,799 tribal meeting in 767 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:56,160 October. So road tour will have to be somewhere between the first week of 768 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,839 October or the third week of October. Larry, just so you know. 769 00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:02,319 » Third week sounds better. think of October. 770 00:59:01,625 --> 00:59:07,839 [gasps] >> The 7th won't work. 771 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:13,680 » No, I'll be out. I'll be um Bridge Preservation, I believe, is in 772 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:17,760 Chicago. >> So, you 773 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:19,280 » Oh, 7th. I would be okay. >> You get a personal 774 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,680 » I'll be gone. >> I know. She has to tell me. She also 775 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,720 almost has to tell me daily what's going on. 776 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:29,720 » That's awesome. [laughter] Anything 777 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:34,680 else for the commissioner reports? 778 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:44,319 » Um Mike's been cutting grass. The uh the assistant is out on medical leave right 779 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:49,440 now. So it's just Mike by himself, but he's just mowing and taking care of 780 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:55,520 planes as they come in and out. Um not much been going on there. Um there's a 781 00:59:52,799 --> 01:00:00,960 potential depends on whether or not the BOA gets their uh the funding in place 782 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:06,480 whether or not they might break ground on the tea hangers yet this this this 783 01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:13,400 fall. Um but Carl was unsure yet on whether or not 784 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:13,400 the BOA funding will come in on time. 785 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:21,520 No maintenance items this year will be done. No crack filling next year. I 786 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:26,240 guess Brian is what I was been told by the BOA. 787 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:31,920 » Okay. Dams. >> Dams. We need rain. 788 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:35,599 » Um, so everything is everything's low right now. So the way things are, we 789 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,000 don't even have to put out PSA for a draw down because everything's low. 790 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,359 » Have you >> Is it below our our draw down rate 791 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:49,119 already? >> Yeah. 792 01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:57,280 Yeah. How's the complaints been? Um, okay. I guess I I uh Dave said there 793 01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:02,079 is there was a request coming in as far as wanting 794 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:07,119 um what the DNR is requiring for flows because the DNR requires a amount of 795 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:13,359 flow coming out of Soulberg and and long on all these dams. And so I just told 796 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:17,280 Dave to reach out to Ryan Jarvis and and let him know that, you know, the the 797 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:23,200 request has come in for, you know, somebody wants wants this information. 798 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:29,440 So Ryan may be changing up some things a little bit now, but we'll see. It's like 799 01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:33,440 he wants to redact some of the previous things that he had put out there. So, 800 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,760 but we'll see. >> Well, it's something we have to live 801 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:42,240 with. Nothing we can do about it. No, I mean we I mean beside any everybody want 802 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:45,040 running their garden holes in Soulberg, that's the only way you're going to 803 01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:46,799 bring the water up. >> Don't start doing that citizens, 804 01:01:46,687 --> 01:01:49,359 [laughter] >> please. 805 01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:54,602 » Yeah, but they're all running the garden hose out of the Soulberg to water the 806 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,602 garden. [laughter] 807 01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:00,880 » It's [clears throat] low everywhere. >> Yeah. Yeah. You look at you look at 808 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:09,000 creeks and rivers. Um there isn't really nothing nothing flowing anywhere. 809 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:09,000 We're down 14 or 15 inches even. 810 01:02:10,922 --> 01:02:16,760 [laughter] >> Okay. Highway crew. 811 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:28,480 The crack filled bridge approaches on state and county boom mode D north of 812 01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:33,040 Brandtwood patch state and county highways. 813 01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:38,880 ruck paved for 49,000 feet of County Highway H. [clears throat] Uh did a 814 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:44,880 30,000 feet of patch paving. So we worked with uh American Asphalt. We had 815 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:50,319 their paver uh three of their operators. It [clears throat] was our attack truck, 816 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:55,119 our rollers, our trucks. So we did um that was yesterday. Turned out all 817 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:59,680 right. I mean for what it for what the road was, it's better. Yeah. 818 01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:01,680 Um, >> where was that at? That was on 819 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,640 » 8 S. >> S. Okay. 820 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:09,680 » Yeah, we did three spots in total. The one spot was closer down towards 821 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:12,000 » I don't know what that road is by France. 822 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,079 » Oh, sure. >> Yeah, that it dropped off really bad. 823 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,599 Most of the time in the spring, the whole intersection was almost water. So, 824 01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:23,280 we kind of we brought put some recycling in there, raised it up. So, we're going 825 01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:29,039 to do some ditching out there. So, hopefully that isn't underwater come 826 01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:34,799 springtime again. But um when we shouldered H and D, so 827 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:40,000 that was pretty much last. >> Any questions for Roger on that fleet 828 01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:44,480 and facilities? >> Um not too much going on in in the shop 829 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:49,520 neither. Um just doing routine maintenance and 830 01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:54,799 repairs on on the trucks and all the equipment. Um when they get some time 831 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:58,240 for that, they they go on the V boxes and just making sure they're ready to go 832 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,720 for this winter. Going through some of the plow equipment. 833 01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:10,400 That's about it. >> Okay. Are there any questions or 834 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:16,400 comments for Roger on any of the items? If not, we'll move on to vouchers. 835 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:19,680 What's your pleasure on the vouchers? >> I'll make a motion to approve the 836 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,880 vouchers as presented. Motion by Spacic. 837 01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:28,160 » I'll second that. >> Second by Baratka to approve as 838 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:32,559 presented. Any further discussion? All in favor signify by saying I. I. 839 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:39,640 » Opposed. >> Motion carried 840 01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:39,640 road tour in October 841 01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:47,520 7 a.m. >> I cannot do the first week. So 842 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:52,039 » I I can't either on the first week. The third week I could, but not the first 843 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,039 week. 844 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,914 » Make the joke. Do it after the board meeting so you can't ask for more 845 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,934 additional funding for the roads. [laughter] 846 01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:06,559 » Well, we don't want to do it in November. 847 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:11,760 Kidding. >> November ain't going to work for me. 848 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,760 » Oh, okay. [laughter] 849 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:20,079 » Well, what dates would work for you, Roger? after the 13th. You said 850 01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:24,359 » uh the n the October the week of the 19th to the 23rd. 851 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:30,000 » The week of the 19th would work or would not work 852 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:35,280 » would work if the first week doesn't work for uh everybody else. The third 853 01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:40,240 week is the one the 19th through the 23rd. 854 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:45,920 » Would the 22nd work? >> Yeah. Land land meeting 855 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:45,920 » on the 22nd. 856 01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:50,039 the 21st. 857 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,520 » What day of the week is that? >> It's a Wednesday. 858 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:02,720 » Wednesday. >> It's a Wednesday, the 21st. 859 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,359 » And just for some reference, how what type frame are we looking at? 860 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:10,240 » Oh, you're going to have the best ride of your life. And it starts at 7 a.m. 861 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,839 and it goes to about 3 and Larry buys lunch. Not 862 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:17,680 » for lunch. No. Yeah. And sometimes we cut it out early. 863 01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:20,480 Depends on how everybody's feeling. >> I'm just wanting to block my 864 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,920 » my other >> You're going to want to block your day 865 01:06:21,359 --> 01:06:25,039 for this. >> I'm going to Yep. 866 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,200 » Be well worth the price of admission. It's awesome. 867 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,559 » Oh, I'm sure. [laughter] Cheap at twice the price. Got it. Okay. 868 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,280 » Even for a newcomer. >> Yeah. 869 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,440 » Sometimes we get orange juice and apple juice. It's like a little kid on a bus 870 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,359 again. >> Perfect. 871 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,240 » Awesome. >> Now, [clears throat] 872 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:47,200 we really have a ride. >> Yeah. We invite the the whole county 873 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:50,611 board to ant to uh participate. >> Some come by choice, some come 874 01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:53,680 reluctantly. [laughter] 875 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,440 » We've never had to use handcuffs to get anybody there, though. 876 01:06:54,400 --> 01:07:01,920 » No. >> And we meet here at highway highway 877 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:05,440 shop. We start there with a tour. >> Perfect. 878 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,839 » 21st works then, Joe? >> Yes. 879 01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:09,839 » 21st will work for me. >> Doug. 880 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:14,960 » Doug. Maybe if we can get drivers. I make sure 881 01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:19,880 I can get a school bus driver. >> Oh, 882 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,880 » let the kids drive themselves that day. 883 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,880 » So you you could attend if you can find a spare. 884 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:30,119 » Yeah. Yeah. No, that works as good as any day. 885 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:37,760 » Okay. Well, I guess it's as good as any other day. Are you going to come, Brian? 886 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,359 » Why not? >> Okay. 887 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:49,799 Well, we have the date set then for our our road tour and we've exhausted our 888 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,799 agenda. So, I'll adjourn the meeting.