[0:05] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:10] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:16] justice.
>> Thank you.
[0:20] minutes from August 18, public to
non-public conf.
[0:27] » I didn't I did not see any problems.
[laughter]
[0:33] » My name was spelled incorrectly on one
of the lines, but discussed, but that's
[0:38] okay. [clears throat]
>> Apparently, it's not a problem. No,
[0:41] » it's not a problem. It's not a problem.
I've heard in cold worse.
[0:45] [laughter]
[0:53] » [laughter]
[1:08] » I'll move to accept as
second written with one correction. All
[1:13] in favor?
All right.
[1:35] Uh, so we got a couple things to do.
Okay.
[1:44] We have a revised estimate for revenue
[clears throat] of the MS434. Were there
[1:47] any changes? Do you know?
>> I do not.
[1:50] » Okay.
[2:08] » Not online.
>> No.
[2:13] motion to accept that.
>> So, it's revised.
[2:17] » Yes.
>> Do we know what was revised?
[2:23] » When do when do we need to have it fin?
I mean, can we table this till our next
[2:27] meeting if we don't know what
[2:42] It's not a huge problem if you want to
wait till the next meeting.
[2:45] » I'm going to move that we just
>> or suggest that we have it.
[2:50] » We have a water abatement for Carnegie
Mountain Realy which is 66 and 169 Route
[2:56] 4. Uh it goes back to 2025 I believe
2024.
[3:03] um and was involving Don and Rebel. Uh
and it was currently the number was
[3:12] granted back or was granted but never
processed back then. So the totals for
[3:18] um 1,6735
[3:34] So we granted it previously but process.
[3:40] » I move to
grant it again and process.
[3:45] » All in favor? I
[3:54] » while we're on the water department, um
we have some updated I'm going to make
[3:58] copies of these for you guys to grab so
you can review them. Caroline's put put
[4:03] together uh a new set of ordinance for
the water. Um, last time it was done was
[4:16] so I'll make copies of both the old
ordinance and the new and the
[4:18] recommendations.
[4:22] If you guys come by and pick them up and
we can talk about this in the next
[4:27] meeting.
[4:49] Then we have the uh updated ordinances
for Ken Cemetery that we voted on last
[4:55] meeting. These are the changes put in
voted on it.
[5:23] All right. So, we have a bunch of
nonprofits nonprofit organizations in
[5:28] town uh with the recommendations from
the assessor on whether they should be
[5:32] granted tax abatements or not. Not
abatements but tax um
[5:39] exempt status.
Uh the first one up is Old North Church.
[5:45] Um this property is only used for one
service per year and occasionally for
[5:48] wedding or funeral. We're looking at the
New Hampshire Supreme Court cases.
[5:51] Nature Conservancy versus Nelson. The
Supreme Court speaks these are the
[5:55] assesstors notes to the test of use. In
that case, the Supreme Court said use by
[6:00] non-members four to five times a year
does not meet the test required. In his
[6:03] opinion, it should be denied. And um we
have granted it for the last several
[6:09] years even though he suggested we deny
it. Uh it is a church. There's no
[6:14] plumbing in it. Um it's used for I
believe two service two regular services
[6:19] a year which I think it's a
um use of regular use even though it's
[6:25] minimal.
We have any opinions on that?
[6:33] I'll move that we still grant it under
the fact that it has the use hasn't
[6:39] changed from what we've been allowing.
>> I'll second that. All in favor?
[6:45] » I I
>> I'll
[6:48] um
[6:54] so we're denying his
recommendation.
[6:59] his grant or deny denying his
recommendation.
[7:02] » Yeah.
[7:13] Uh Mascoma Community Healthcare uh his
recommendation are this organization has
[7:18] been make making payments in le of taxes
for several years now. This is not a
[7:22] hospital but it does charitable work. is
obligated for charitable work due to the
[7:25] payments received from the government
via Medicaid and Medicare. He is
[7:29] recommending granting the exemption.
Motion to accept or is denied. Any
[7:36] comments first?
>> He's recommending.
[7:39] » He's recommending that we grant the
exemption.
[7:42] » Move to grant.
>> I'll second.
[7:44] » All in favor? by
[7:54] she's okay.
[8:04] This one is uh known as the forestry
society on Potato Road. This
[8:08] organization owns vacant land in Kanan.
applies annually for property tax exempt
[8:12] status under RSA 720 23. This property
doesn't meet the criteria to the
[8:17] property tax exempt because it's vacant
land. The applicable assessment is
[8:21] prescribed by RSA 79 recommending that
you completely deny the request.
[8:27] » I move to deny.
>> I'll second.
[8:29] » All in favor? I
>> I
[8:33] think it's already in current use.
[8:40] » Uh next one is Cardan Mountain School.
Multiple lots 62 alumni drive. The
[8:45] entire campus was reviewed with
facilities director and has been
[8:48] prorated with buildings to coincide with
what is exempt and what is taxable. The
[8:52] vacant land is not exempt and will be
taxed accordingly. These recommended
[8:56] grant parade exemption. So just so
people are clear, it's not the entire
[9:00] facility. It's just uh the uh living
room uh that are t or the school actual
[9:08] classroom buildings only that are taxed
are not taxed. So
[9:12] » yeah, place any of the room parts of the
building for education purposes are
[9:16] exempt.
>> We have a motion on that.
[9:20] » Move to accept his recommendation.
All
[9:24] » in favor? All right.
[9:35] Uh the next one is West Canon 4
sponsoring group. Um route four. This is
[9:40] more complex set of this is a more
complex set of circumstances due to the
[9:45] nature of the ownership in the PLA case
from earlier this year. The owner is not
[9:49] the user. They were incorporated to
support the local 4 group. They still
[9:53] believe they do not qualify for the that
reason. However, this organization's
[9:57] once again failed to timely file their
A12 paperwork and did not provide any
[10:01] reason to support for accident.
In that case, he's recommending that we
[10:06] deny the exemption.
[10:12] I'll move to deny because they failed
the file.
[10:17] » I'll second that. All
>> in favor?
[10:26] It's not the first year for doing this.
[10:36] St. Mary's Catholic Church. This is
continued to be a house of worship. He's
[10:40] recommending granting redemption.
Move to fill his recommendations. I'll
[10:45] » second. All in favor? All right.
[10:51] [clears throat]
[10:57] » Next one is American Legion will Webster
post 6055. I'm sorry. The organization
[11:03] has filed the necessary paperwork. He's
recommending granted the exception.
[11:08] » Move to his recommendation, but it's not
pointable.
[11:15] » Okay, I'll second it. All in favor?
>> Thank you.
[11:30] Mount Carician Game Club Ballpark Road.
This organization is club that is not
[11:34] open to the public. Nor are their
meetings open to the attend open to be
[11:38] attended by the public. Attendance is by
invitation only if not a member. They do
[11:42] not allow other groups to use the
facility at the discussion the discret
[11:46] they do allow other groups to use the
facility at the discretion of the club's
[11:49] board of directors. This property does
not benefit the general public and their
[11:53] mission doesn't appear to be public. The
property is far has far more acreage
[11:57] than needed for the mission. He's
recommending that we deny the Texas
[12:02] status.
[12:06] I thought that they updated their bylaws
because we had conversations with them
[12:11] about that
and George and Carrie were unable to
[12:15] attend tonight. They planned to, but
something in the March,
[12:19] » you know, they were going through
changes. I have not seen what they were.
[12:23] I'll recommend we table it till the next
meeting.
[12:29] » Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it makes a
difference on his recommendation or not.
[12:32] That's where I get hung up. It's like I
don't want the town to be in one of
[12:37] these lawsuits that we hear about from
other towns. So,
[12:40] » yeah. So, he's recommending it. So,
>> but if they did change update, it may
[12:45] change his recommendations.
>> I know Terry had asked me about
[12:49] historical information when she sort of
moved into her new role there.
[12:54] [clears throat]
>> Do you know if they supplied those new
[12:57] bylaws to the assessment? I
>> I don't know.
[13:01] And they knew it was on the agenda
tonight.
[13:04] » They did. And they had a family
emergency. So she sent me a message and
[13:09] said, "I'm we were planning to attend.
We can't.
[13:29] got a text saying they did update their
their bylaws and they were getting it to
[13:33] Brendan, but
>> okay, [clears throat]
[13:36] » I'm okay with tableabling this. I mean,
really, we were supposed to look at
[13:40] these months ago,
>> right?
[13:41] » Another couple of weeks,
>> right? Doesn't make a difference, right?
[13:46] Uh, Assembly God Church, uh, this
organization has filed the necessary
[13:50] prayer board recommending granting the
exemption.
[13:54] Second, all in favor? I I
[14:04] uh listen incorporated uh organization
has been exempted from for some time
[14:09] without filing A9 in 2012
um which was discovered last year while
[14:14] reviewing exempted properties in town.
The letter was sent letting them know
[14:17] they would need to file the paperwork.
There was no reply and we did not
[14:21] receive an A9 or A12. Therefore, he's
recommending denying the exemption.
[14:27] did not deny because of failure of
silence.
[14:31] » I'll second that. All in favor?
>> I
[14:35] » I'm going to abstain because I
>> there were inaccuracies in the last
[14:41] statement. So I didn't
>> inaccuracy.
[14:44] » Well, when he was talking about the one
for the game club. So I mean do we know
[14:49] that we have given them an exemption in
the past?
[14:52] » We have.
and we've received paperwork or we've
[14:56] just
>> I think there was a history going back
[15:02] some years that
>> Yes, I remember
[15:04] without any
>> Yeah,
[15:06] » just off the cuff.
>> Well, a lot of that paperwork was not
[15:09] required until about what about three
years ago.
[15:12] » They changed the state level of it for
requirements.
[15:17] And finally, Mstone United Methodist
Church uh proof of 9 Kan Street. Um this
[15:26] organization is filed on necessary
paperwork on time recommending granting
[15:30] this exemption.
Make a motion to accept this move to
[15:34] accept recommendation.
>> Is it Kanan Street or
[15:38] » Yeah, that's the best
[15:45] believe they sold anyways. So, but like
I said, we've been on this for a while.
[15:50] So,
>> the new ministers live in there.
[15:55] » I thought they
>> So, they were talking about selling them
[15:59] both, but then they would been without a
parsonage and I do know according to
[16:04] what the church has posted is that the
new Methodist minister is living at the
[16:10] Canaan parsonage.
>> Yeah.
[16:12] » So, this is not the one in West Kanan.
We don't have paperwork for that one.
[16:17] » No.
>> Okay.
[16:19] » And
I mean, I am going to agree with his
[16:23] recommendation, but if they're saying
that the Old North Church doesn't have
[16:28] services, I don't
>> Yeah, I agree. That's what I'm saying.
[16:33] » It's not a church. That's the parsonage.
The minister lives in it. That's
[16:38] different than a church.
>> Well, there's no service in the church
[16:41] is what say.
>> Oh, yeah. It's it's they combined them.
[16:45] They combined Enfield and Kan. So if
Nasoma Methodist Church now
[16:51] » but what I'm saying is if they're saying
the Old North Church doesn't have enough
[16:54] services a year to qualify as exempt and
that building's empty with no services
[16:59] in it.
>> Yeah. But that's not what the this
[17:02] exemption is not for the church. It's
for the parts.
[17:04] » It's for both. See?
>> Oh, it is. Yeah.
[17:06] » Because you gave the addresses Kanan
Street.
[17:09] » Yeah. Well, they're both here. They're
both here.
[17:11] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I know that makes a
difference.
[17:15] » Um, all in favor
>> I
[17:18] » I
[17:22] [clears throat]
[snorts]
[17:27] did lose.
>> They did not
[17:37] turn
off.
[17:48] table.
>> What's that?
[17:51] » Listen.
>> No, we did not. All right. Sorry.
[17:56] [clears throat]
[18:01] » You have a three you'd like to talk
about?
[18:04] » Yes. We applied [clears throat] for a uh
grant to uh re-roof the museum.
[18:11] and uh the Lchip
organization which is
[18:17] hopefully going to give us some money
came to view the site and they concluded
[18:22] that uh there's a tree that's
overhanging the property and that tree
[18:28] needs to come down. Uh we discussed just
limming it and they said it's too old,
[18:33] too mature, too close. They recommended
it be pulled down. Um
[18:39] Angus Gorman who did the depot park tree
work recently uh he'd given us a quote
[18:45] of uh 900 to pull the tree down. That
would involve dicing it up, putting it
[18:51] by the curb so the people will take it
for firewood and then we'll be stuck
[18:55] with some small limbs that we'll have to
find volunteers and highway departments
[19:00] to remove. So do we [clears throat] have
900? Can we find it? Can we do it?
[19:07] negative. Um, [laughter]
[19:10] » don't have anybody left on the table.
What do you mean? [laughter]
[19:15] » 900's a bargain. So,
>> it is for sure.
[19:21] » It's less than the deductible on the
property damage.
[19:25] [laughter]
[19:27] » Think of yourself. It's $100 ahead.
>> Motion.
[19:31] » I'll move to approve it.
>> Second. All in
[19:35] » favor? Hi.
>> Hi.
[19:38] » Thank you, John.
>> Thank you.
[19:40] » Uh talking about tree. Oh, sorry.
>> Interject something on the subject of
[19:44] trees.
>> Um the friends of Kanan Village um is
[19:48] part of our tree or
uh had our forester look at the trees in
[19:54] the common.
>> Yeah, I gave permission to Bob to cut
[19:57] that one down. It's
>> There's two There's some ash.
[20:01] » Yeah. One either side of the Yeah. So,
he's going to try to save the one on the
[20:05] left as you're looking from the hardware
store at the common.
[20:08] » Um, but one that's a group of trees
might stay.
[20:13] » Yeah, he he was of the opinion that it's
toast.
[20:18] » Highway's going to be cutting that
cutting the group of trees down. Like I
[20:21] said, my my understanding was he's going
to try to look at the other one and try
[20:24] to save it.
>> Okay.
[20:26] » Thanks.
>> He viewed it as a safety issue with the
[20:30] use of
>> Yeah.
[20:31] » Yeah. Somebody from uh somebody reached
out to me just recently on follow up
[20:35] with Thanks.
[20:39] » Update on the water treatment plan.
>> Yes. Well, [clears throat]
[20:44] um we've been spending some money. Uh uh
we have spent um $37,998
[20:52] to actually modernize and install
uh monitoring equipment that will
[20:58] monitor the chlorine and the pH
literally by the hour or almost by the
[21:02] minute so that you can track it. those
get those that information gets sent to
[21:07] us through the cloud to uh for people so
that if there's ever an issue with by
[21:12] the way the new chlorinating
equipment um then we will know literally
[21:18] within minutes because we get a
notification of an alarm that's a
[21:21] dramatic improvement over the 30year-old
I'll say kind of manual system that we
[21:28] would check in on from time to time
um so it's a it is a much needed did
[21:34] upgrade and [clears throat]
um it's really pretty critical to kind
[21:39] of stabilizing um mostly the chlorine
and and and monitoring it so that you
[21:46] know the chlorine is at the right level.
That's difficult to do in the town at
[21:49] the moment because some some some areas
just because we don't have that loop in
[21:54] yet, right? We still have some dead end
areas. The chlorine residual is lower at
[22:00] those dead ends than it is. So, it's a
tough balancing act. It still is. It
[22:04] will be until we until we finish the
work um in the next couple of years.
[22:10] Yep. But we're making great progress. We
also um um
[22:17] will be spending $69,334
to replace the pumps because we had two
[22:24] pump failures last week. And um um so
for some number of hours we were
[22:30] actually unable to make water. And so
that was a a scramble, but we did it.
[22:35] It's good. Um so literally uh in the
last two months we've made $107,000
[22:42] worth of improvements uh to upgrade and
monet and modernize the water the water
[22:51] plant. We have more to do.
>> Yeah.
[22:54] » And that's also scheduled. That's within
the $69,000
[22:58] to replace the pumps. We put in a new uh
water line, as you may remember, three
[23:05] almost four years ago, and it hasn't
really worked for the last year almost.
[23:11] And so when I learned that, I said,
"Well, what are we doing about it?"
[23:14] [laughter]
Turns out not much. Uh so we'll be
[23:18] repiping that and um working on that.
And that third pump will be what's
[23:23] called a prime and purge. And you have
to treat that line just like you would
[23:28] any other water line. And I'll get to
that in a minute. Um because sediment
[23:32] and stuff does build up in there and you
have to flush that out. We haven't done
[23:36] that. So that is one uh potentially one
reason why so we have some water
[23:42] complaints about turbidity and kind of
color because uh the pumps that were
[23:47] there the old pumps are basically
swimming pool pumps uh aren't adequate
[23:53] to move enough water with enough volume
to keep the pipe clear of sediment and
[23:58] stuff. Um
so that's those are all good things. I I
[24:02] realize that that that there are water
quality issues. Uh these will absolutely
[24:08] begin to help those uh very soon, very
quickly. And um um there's more to come.
[24:16] Uh I can move on to the um wastewater
plant.
[24:20] » Yep. the wastewater plant. Um we have
also
[24:24] spent um
another $37,998
[24:29] on the similar monitoring equipment that
monitors the conditions in the
[24:34] wastewater treatment lagoons and reports
those out.
[24:39] Uh and um I have a proposal to spend
$69,334
[24:44] for new air raators. Now the interesting
thing about the air raators is
[24:49] the air raators haven't worked for at
least two to three years. Now I have no
[24:55] explanation for that sort of negligence
but it's it's the conditions up there
[25:00] were pretty pretty
deplorable. Um we we've been in in in
[25:08] some level of violation with the state
because we haven't actually reported
[25:11] anything to them for two years because
well the plant literally hasn't been
[25:15] working there. Everything's broken. I
can't imagine how how things got that
[25:20] bad. But so uh we have spent like I say
that $37,000 to put in monitoring
[25:26] equipment so we can actually monitor get
some new power lines to the air raators.
[25:30] We've replaced all of those pumps.
That's for airator pumps. That's how you
[25:33] treat the water pump. Good. Um
and um and now of course we only have
[25:40] two of the four airways that work
because again they're 30 years old and
[25:44] we just can't keep them running.
>> Uh I I can't tell why it is. They keep
[25:51] stripping the circuit breakers. So
there's there's something that's just
[25:54] don't
>> they're at the but they're past their
[25:57] useful life. Um, so we're going to put
in four new aators. That will obviously
[26:04] help the treatment quality of the water
that we're discharging. And um,
[26:11] and so that's another $107,000 that we
have spent. So the water and the sewer,
[26:16] they basically they use similar
monitoring technology uh to make you
[26:21] aware of the conditions and the quality
of both of them. Little different
[26:25] obviously.
And um as you may remember from a couple
[26:31] of meetings ago when dees came here and
said you know for the last two years
[26:36] we've been in violation because we
haven't been disposing of our household
[26:42] hazardous waste that we collected. And
so, uh, when I realized that, we put a
[26:50] plan together and, um, I spent $9,970
on chemists and folks to come up here
[26:58] and both identify the 51 barrels of
household hazardous waste to figure out
[27:05] what's in them, label them, get them
ready for shipping, and then I spent
[27:09] $37,315
actually trucking them out of
[27:14] and sending them down to New Jersey.
>> Okay.
[27:17] » Um so that total was 47,285.
So between the water plant, the
[27:24] wastewater plant and household hazardous
waste u we spent $261,316.
[27:33] And um that is basically to overcome
literally 15 to 20 years of neglect.
[27:43] And um it it's unfortunate that that you
you you guys
[27:49] were really never made aware of that um
for so long. And and you know it's
[27:55] complicated stuff. You don't you can go
up there and take a look but you know
[27:59] it's not easy to understand it as you
know volunteer elected the lake board.
[28:05] So um but we are we are making great
inroads. We're actually uh making our
[28:13] daily and weekly reports to dees that we
should have been doing years ago. It
[28:18] worked. Um so um great progress. We've
spent so many. It's great progress. Um
[28:27] I'm still working on the depot pumping
station. uh that has hit a couple of
[28:32] snags in terms of the requirements of
dees and and some of the elements that
[28:39] has the potential to add probably
another
[28:44] $200 or $300,000 to the cost of that
pumping station. And I was hoping that
[28:50] uh the solution of going from a suction
pump to a submersible pump and doing
[28:55] some rewiring would be enough to
[clears throat] kind of do that this
[28:59] year um for about 200,000. Um but DS
doesn't really like that plan that much
[29:06] and and I get that they had some
legitimate um concerns about about what
[29:13] happens if sort of thing. Um, so we'll
we're going to gather around the table.
[29:17] I'm going to invite you all to meet with
the with um with our engineers and kind
[29:23] of walk through uh what what our options
are. Um, and at that point, given that
[29:29] I've already spent $260,000,
[29:34] I think we'll probably apply for a state
revolving loan fund that will push this
[29:38] the street to next year. But I'm just
sensitive that, you know, we're making
[29:43] great progress, but I I just don't think
I can get that depot pumping station
[29:48] designed and approved this year.
>> Yeah. At this point, you're working
[29:52] probably first a year before you get
final design approval anymore.
[29:56] » Right. Right. Yeah. [clears throat] Um
so we've already spent about 30,000
[30:02] designing working uh through the options
on the depot pumping station. Um, that's
[30:07] what the package was that we kind of
submitted to DES to get their feedback
[30:10] on what they think of it. Um, so again,
we'll we'll continue to work on that and
[30:17] um um [snorts]
[clears throat] so we're making
[30:20] progress. I mean, you've got some very
old infrastructure
[30:27] and u speaking of old infrastructure, I
was talking with Hugh and Bob today.
[30:33] come to kind of find out that of the 26
fire hydrants that you have in town,
[30:40] I don't have
confidence that any more than about a
[30:45] third of them actually work.
>> And so
[30:51] we had a little meeting today about
maybe ordering some replacement hydrants
[30:57] and some
valving and whatever. And uh because one
[31:02] of the problems that we have in the town
because some of these water lines are
[31:06] deadend lines is apparently we didn't
take flushing the lines very seriously.
[31:12] So we haven't really flushed the water
lines on a regular basis which normally
[31:16] you do at least every year.
You flush the hydrants and so forth but
[31:22] because we might have
>> half or more of the hydrants that don't
[31:26] even work.
>> We haven't done that. And so whenever we
[31:29] did line flushing, we we just did the
ones that we know work.
[31:33] » Yeah. [laughter]
>> So, um,
[31:37] » yeah, we were being told they were being
flushed once a year.
[31:40] » Yeah.
>> By the previous operator.
[31:42] » Yeah. Yeah. And, and that that simply
wasn't true. Um, so so [clears throat]
[31:49] we'll we'll continue to scope out.
>> Is it the hydrants themselves or it's
[31:53] just because they don't have water to
them or what's
[31:55] » Well, they have water to them, but the
water's just kind of standing there. So
[31:57] after a fashion, right, your your
chlorine residue goes down, the water
[32:01] sits there, it gets a little stale, and
so once or twice a year, you open up the
[32:06] valve, flush out those pipes, get out
any turbidity or sediment, and uh kind
[32:13] of keep the water fresher, and it also
exercises the valves that you might want
[32:18] if there's a fire. Um,
>> the other thing we might want to look at
[32:25] on these dead end lines, what we have
done on them before is just put an
[32:31] adapter and have even a half or 3/4 in
open line just to keep that water
[32:38] moving.
>> Yeah.
[32:39] » To help keep it from getting stale.
You're treating more water, but you're
[32:43] getting a better quality product.
>> Yeah. Yep. No th those would be those
[32:47] would be good things because it is clear
that the [snorts]
[32:51] chlorine residual varies from from
>> that's [clears throat] saying if we can
[32:55] just keep that moving
>> some sometimes it can be too high on one
[32:58] end of the time and too low on the other
end and at this point
[33:02] » um you're stuck with that at least for
the next couple years until we can
[33:06] finish the design
>> so keep it circulating.
[33:08] » Yeah. So ultimately there'll be a new
water line going up I believe Blaine
[33:12] Road to the tower. Yes. That will pump
the water from the lake through the
[33:15] treatment plant up to the tower and then
down that way and that will begin to
[33:19] rotate the water and you'll get better
circulation. Um
[33:25] um
is that for circle?
[33:30] » Uh let me think.
[33:34] » I just want to say I think so. Thank
you, Jack, for tackling this. But I also
[33:39] want to thank all the multiple companies
we have working with us and stepping in
[33:43] and uh wastewater water treatment people
from other towns helping out. I mean,
[33:48] I'm compensating them, but they're, you
know, they're the operator, wastewater
[33:53] treatment operator from handover is
running our wastewater right now.
[33:57] » Yep.
>> He's here every day
[34:00] for water. Uh we've hired a a young guy
who's really well educated that's going
[34:05] to be our operator, our one of our first
operator. Um he is jumping in with both
[34:10] hands and feet and
uh really gung-ho smart kid. Um and Seth
[34:17] is really can't say enough about how
well he's doing and jumping on. So
[34:22] » yeah, he gets he gets rave reviews at
this point from our contract operators
[34:27] that he's picking up quick learning it
and he does have a microbiology and a
[34:30] mathematics background and an IT
background. So he understands the math
[34:34] and the formulas.
>> The microbiology and the math are the
[34:37] two hardest parts of your testing to
pass.
[34:41] » Right. Right. His master's degree will
help in that.
[34:45] » Yeah. And I have another uh applicant
because you're really supposed to have
[34:49] two licensed operators. Um, I have I'm
interviewing another fairly recent
[34:54] graduate from college, graduated last
year. He has both some laboratory
[34:58] experience as well as biology.
So, he comes with some of the technical
[35:03] transferable skills and and um we've
been chatting for about a month now and
[35:07] he's still interested. He knows all the
good news, he knows all the bad news. I
[35:11] send him all the stuff and he's still
interested. So
[35:16] » well I mean for better for worse for
anybody coming in right now it's a great
[35:20] learning experience
inside and out hands-on learning
[35:24] » is absolutely fantastic young guy it
would be something to be pretty excited
[35:28] about.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The these are not inherently
[35:30] complex systems. You know they're
relatively straightforward. There's
[35:34] obviously some moving parts and pieces
and knowledge. Um but um this is
[35:40] probably I say in the last two two or
three months we've made more progress
[35:45] than in the last 30 years.
So um we're headed
[35:51] » look at the wastewater treatment office.
It's neat. It's organized. You know
[35:56] where stuff is.
>> It looks like a motorcycle out of there.
[36:01] » Uh I don't know. I'll have to ask you.
No,
[36:05] » it it it might not be.
>> It's one step at a time.
[36:08] » Yeah, one step.
>> Does look a lot better.
[36:10] » Every every day is progress.
>> Y
[36:13] » and we've had great help mowing the
wastewater treatment lagoons, which
[36:18] hadn't been mowed in years.
Um, and uh I've had a number of dees
[36:24] people up at the water plant while we
wastewater plant while we uh uh
[36:29] [clears throat]
figured out where all the valves work
[36:32] and the flow rate and that sort of
thing. Some of the equipment up there
[36:35] hadn't been calibrated since 2015
and normally you calibrate your
[36:40] equipment every year.
>> Yeah.
[36:42] » So pretty pretty um pretty poor
operation. I just have no explanation
[36:48] for it.
>> Appreciate the update. Obviously, we all
[36:50] know what's going on. The hydrants is
the first big surprise today. So,
[36:54] » yeah. Yeah. We're We're going to have to
um I'm going to suggest we buy some um
[37:01] hydrants and and anything else we need
just in case we need them. Not a lot,
[37:06] but we go we'll go two or three at a
time, check them, see if they work.
[37:10] depending on the type of hydrant that
they installed initially. If we can just
[37:16] replace at the water man or if it has to
be cut main cut and replace at that
[37:23] point. Some of those it's just a flange.
You have the elbow on the bottom of the
[37:28] drain and you can just undo the flange
and set a new hydrant.
[37:31] » Yeah.
>> And it depends if they put a shut off a
[37:35] gate valve in front of the hydrant. So
you can do that. I think some of them
[37:38] have a gate valve and that's what what
he was talking about. But again, those
[37:43] gate valves haven't been exercised in
years. So, they may be a gate, but it
[37:48] might not be a valve anymore.
>> Yeah.
[37:53] » Make sure we can shut it down if we
open.
[37:55] » Well, maybe some of them are shut and
that's why they're not working.
[37:59] » Well, then, you know, again, we're we're
we're going to spend some more money,
[38:03] but you you can't you can't you can't
run a job like this. You you have to
[38:07] have working hydrants.
>> Where did 51 barrels of hazardous waste
[38:12] come from?
>> I mean, is that from the collection that
[38:15] we did from residents and we
>> I know there was three collections. I
[38:18] know there was three collections done
without disposal.
[38:23] » You've been gathering this stuff up for
years and for some reason or other you
[38:26] just
>> kept it.
[38:29] » So
[38:32] where was it? uh scattered around in and
around the wastewater treatment
[38:37] building. There's a whole bunch of blue
barrels, 55gallon drums out front, whole
[38:43] bunch of other different containers on
the side, both bays of the garage that
[38:48] used to hold the pump truck and
tractor.
[38:52] » Uh you you couldn't get anything in
there. You could barely walk in there.
[38:56] » I thought we were told there was like
one collection that hadn't been picked
[38:59] up yet. And
>> yeah, one big huge collection.
[39:01] » Yeah. Well, [laughter]
Clearly. Okay.
[39:04] » When I checked into it, I know there was
a second collection made after the first
[39:10] one was not picked up
>> and there was already stuff there
[39:15] before the first one was added.
>> 51 barrels. I mean, that
[39:20] » didn't happen overnight.
>> The last one I did was 2020 and there's
[39:24] still barrels up there with some of the
tags that I put on, labeled them. We
[39:27] were getting collections done and some
of the easiest stuff to get rid of was
[39:30] getting rid of and we're holding on to
the other stuff waiting for a full
[39:33] barrel
way to do it.
[39:36] » We're done with household household
hazards with collection.
[39:40] » Uh [snorts] Seth has been great to start
cleaning things up, organizing things,
[39:44] that sort of thing. We actually to be
able to use the garages. Of course, we
[39:48] have to replace all the the heat, the
ventilation that is required because
[39:53] you've got chemicals up there. So,
you're supposed to have air flow. So
[39:55] when you open one door, air comes in,
exhaust goes out. So you don't you're
[40:00] not breathing these chemicals. Those
those units have been broken for years.
[40:03] They're they're they're actually gone.
They've been cut out. So they broke and
[40:07] simply got removed and we threw them
away.
[40:09] » And and uh the water plant, same thing.
It is the humidification there. There's
[40:15] no heat.
>> Yeah.
[40:16] » There's no dehumidifier. There's no
ventilation.
[40:19] » And there's no no responsible chemical
storage. It's just stuck in the middle.
[40:23] » Plenty of moisture. Yeah. So, it's just
a mess. It's just a terrible mess. And
[40:28] there's no excuse for it.
>> Was the furnace was a new furnace
[40:32] mounted up there yet?
>> No, not yet.
[40:35] » Okay.
>> I got to do something with the humidity
[40:38] first. So,
>> no. I'm just because
[40:41] I know they had man come in. He put a
mini split up just to try to keep it
[40:47] from freezing. But I was told that the
furnace was all installed
[40:52] » at the which
>> at the treatment facility waste water
[40:56] » mini splits up.
>> The mini splits up
[40:59] water. This is water
>> and the furnace water treatment. I know
[41:02] it does.
>> The furnace is in at the wastewater
[41:04] plant.
>> Okay.
[41:05] » And the issue. Now the problem with that
is the copper piping is all black
[41:09] because you you you've got offging of
these chemicals that we use in there
[41:14] which is coating and oxidizing on the on
the metal and so there's also the air
[41:21] that you're breathing.
>> Well, that's why I ask if the furnace at
[41:24] this point is even usable being in that
environment.
[41:27] » It is because it's only about a year
old. We need to we need to move next on
[41:32] the ventilation.
So yeah, room for growth.
[41:36] » Yeah,
>> room for growth.
[41:38] » Yeah.
>> Is that your whole report?
[41:41] » That's that's about enough good news I
got.
[41:44] [clears throat]
>> Um do we have a date for the new fire
[41:47] chief? I know we've got
>> Yeah, it is. I believe
[41:54] » next week I think might be the 12th.
Very close to
[42:02] Any other business?
You
[42:07] » was going to bring this up tonight, but
since you guys are talking about fishing
[42:10] game club and stuff,
>> ballpark road
[42:15] past two Fridays when they've been doing
their Lions Club's been up there on
[42:19] their campers in. I'm lucky because I
have another access that I can get off
[42:24] Route 4 from. But
this last Friday, I had to go around and
[42:29] use that other access because all their
campers are lined up before lining up
[42:33] the hill because now they've stopped let
[clears throat] them in. The problem is
[42:38] that road is super narrow. So there's a
car I have a picture of a car that
[42:42] stayed parked there at the bottom of the
hill
[42:45] and just stayed parked there because
there was also another truck to the top
[42:48] of the hill. So, I've been in contact
with them up there to do it the other to
[42:53] do something different because it's not
working. Yeah.
[42:57] [clears throat]
>> It's when when they're coming in to set
[42:59] up.
>> Yeah. They they've stopped their timing
[43:01] or something,
>> right?
[43:02] » Um they've been kind of receptive to
that. The other problem is Sundays.
[43:08] They're getting so much business up
there and having so much camping over
[43:11] the weekends that they've got to stop
where if we can get a permission to just
[43:17] temporarily posted no parking from like
their second entrance up past Allen Way
[43:22] up to the top of the hill
where Neil's
[43:28] flat opens up by Hammond's Pits there.
That's one thing. But they're parking in
[43:31] the middle of the hill and somebody is
gonna get clobbered right there because
[43:34] there's no way to get off the road.
Cindy, I don't know if you've run into
[43:38] problems with
>> Yeah. Um had a couple conversations with
[43:43] Matt and then I reached out to Melissa
today. She was like, "Well, I didn't
[43:47] know about two weekends ago." But yeah,
>> and the amount of traffic that we're
[43:52] getting over that road now just because
of road bridge.
[43:56] » Well, Potato Road Bridge, everybody
comes south and the ballpark road.
[44:00] And I know I spoke to one of them
because I physically could not get
[44:05] through with the dump truck. They were
parking both sides of the road with
[44:08] ours.
>> Fire truck can't get through there
[44:10] either.
>> Well, yeah. And and the other thing is
[44:13] you're able to fire trucks instead of
fight trying to get across Chris Mill
[44:16] because it's so much slower, they're
just coming up going ballpark to get to
[44:19] Grisill, the upper end of Sugar Hill and
stuff like that. So,
[44:23] and then last year, the last race of the
season, it went really crazy up I mean,
[44:27] they had bikes riding up and down the
road and everything. And Scott, I talked
[44:31] talked to Scott. He was coming. I don't
even know what their schedule was. I
[44:34] know they raised us back.
>> Yeah, I think the last one.
[44:37] » Last year, we ended up having to follow
the police up because they were coming
[44:41] all the way up my place. Motocross
bikes.
[44:46] » Yeah, they weren't anybody from the
Lions Club.
[44:52] » Great. Right. [clears throat]
>> And they've made strides and
[44:57] mitigating the dust. But for years that
has been a health hazard [clears throat]
[45:05] » from where they are in the where they're
racing or the back of the road ballpark.
[45:10] » The track. Yeah.
>> I mean, they're trying to do a bunch of
[45:13] good things up there.
>> Either not managing the parking
[45:17] situation or they're just running out of
it.
[45:20] Well, when they opened it up to the
campers for the weekend, you just lost
[45:24] 3/4 of your parking because now you've
got motor homes and not little campers.
[45:31] You've got big campers in there that are
taking up threequarters of the streets
[45:36] that cars will be parked.
>> Talk to Ryan a little bit about it
[45:40] Saturday morning. The issues are ran
into Friday. So, just reach out to him
[45:44] and he'll get involved too. But
>> we got to do is something for either a
[45:49] no harding
>> temporary go up that hill if they want
[45:53] to go park the top where the road wines
out. That's one thing. But
[45:57] » yeah narrow
>> I don't know there an opportunity to put
[46:01] some signs up that say no parking this
side. Yeah.
[46:05] » But probably you're going to have to no
parking both sides
[46:08] » because when they do that they're going
to go park on the other side and you're
[46:11] going to end up saying narrow spout.
They'll park it between sides up both
[46:15] sides.
>> At least if there's signs there, it
[46:17] gives the police something to act on.
Whereas if there isn't,
[46:20] » the real thing is it's like their second
entrance all the way up the hill is the
[46:24] narrow parts that they're parking in.
>> There's a about a 500 foot stretch that
[46:31] really should not be any parking because
of the narrowness of that road.
[46:39] » So if you guys are good with it, I can
make that happen.
[46:45] Yeah, that's kind of
>> we can certainly do that right off the
[46:49] bat.
>> I can let Melissa know that we're gonna
[46:52] keep the communications up. I see what
they're trying to do. They're trying to
[46:56] do a lot of good stuff up there, but the
situation we're in with that road right
[47:00] now, we just
>> Yeah,
[47:02] » somebody's going to get in a bad spot.
So,
[47:05] » well, not to be a wise guy, I honestly
don't know. Do you need with the last
[47:10] street thing we went through, do you
need a town vote to add no parking signs
[47:14] or do you have the ability to just do
you just do that?
[47:20] » Do you want to pass a motion with regard
to all the funding purchases or that?
[47:27] » No waste water. As those come up, we've
already done them.
[47:34] Um,
>> right.
[47:38] » Yeah. I mean, I'll make a motion to to
based on Hugh's recommendation. Um, do
[47:43] you want Ryan to take a look at it or
you guys I mean, highways. It's sort of
[47:46] in highways perview anyway. So,
>> yeah, I would take care of it.
[47:50] » All right. [clears throat] I'll make a
motion to make both sides of uh ballpark
[47:54] no parking
where they lower half.
[47:58] » I'll second that. All in favor?
[48:04] » Any other business? Yes.
>> Yeah. I Well, we're on the subject of
[48:07] water. I probably shouldn't even bring
this up, but um a while ago, I forget
[48:11] how many years ago it was, we voted on a
um flood control project
[48:17] » on the what?
>> A flood control project.
[48:20] » Yeah, the flood mitigation
>> other stuff. And since I live in that
[48:25] neck of the woods, I was just curious if
that was ever going to happen or not and
[48:31] how if it's expired, if that warrant
article has expired because I think they
[48:36] expire after um special warrant articles
expire after five years and I don't know
[48:41] if it's been five years yet or not.
>> Um I'd have to go back and look at I'd
[48:46] have to get more information. I know I
know the potato bridge was part of that
[48:50] flood control project to widen that to
make it so it doesn't it's not a
[48:53] bottleneck.
>> I just remember them wanting to take out
[48:56] the I don't know what you want to call
it. I guess they call it a trestle where
[49:00] the railro tracks used to go over the
river.
[49:03] » Correct.
>> Uh that that was going to get taken out
[49:05] and it was a spillway and I forget all
>> I mean the the uh transportation bridge
[49:10] is part of that whole I mean it's the
whole flow of the rivers coming down and
[49:13] joining.
So, how long ago do you remember how
[49:16] long ago it was that that was voted on?
>> I don't. I'd have to go back. We'd have
[49:20] to go back and look. So, I mean, I know,
like I said, it was a multi-phase
[49:24] project because it was involved in
basically every place the the river went
[49:28] under the the road. So, because each one
was a a bottleneck in some sense. So
[49:33] yeah, that was all the FEMA mitigation
[49:38] » you know the Williams field area
>> when I talked with the engineers that we
[49:45] have they were under the understanding
that
[49:50] that area this side of Grisill behind
Reggie Barney's old place to the ball
[49:55] field the FEMA had uh dropped that part
of the money. Well, that was what I was
[50:01] wondering because I thought we
appropriated money. So, I was just what
[50:04] happened to the money?
>> We approved the FEMA
[50:08] project. We have to approve to accept
FEMA money for a project like that. And
[50:15] then when I talked with the engineers,
they said that part of it to their
[50:20] knowledge, FEMA have dropped the funding
on and concentrated on the bridge.
[50:24] » So, they were not. So, that that part of
the project's not going to happen. I
[50:28] would not expect it for a while.
[laughter]
[50:32] » Good. That's all I wanted to know.
>> Anything [clears throat] else?
[50:38] » Yes.
>> I thought she was done. I wasn't sure if
[50:41] she was done. [clears throat]
So, my name is Sean and I'm one of the
[50:46] commissioners at the the co-ed softball
league. Um, this was Cali, who's also on
[50:50] the board of the the softball league.
And we are,
[50:55] I guess we have plans in place to
upgrade a bunch of stuff over in that
[51:01] whole vicinity. Anything from the
horseshoe pit to the playground to the
[51:04] softball field
to the bathrooms.
[51:08] Um, so I guess we're looking for
permission to do so with
[51:15] I think we get a bunch of quotes for a
majority of it. Um,
[51:21] » so if you can uh either give us copies
of what you're looking to get done. Um,
[51:26] and if you got prices involved as well.
I mean, you already doing you're doing
[51:29] the fundraising. You're
>> Yeah, we have um run two fun and field
[51:33] tournaments every year. Yeah. Um, we
also run tournaments for the fire
[51:36] department. Um,
and then
[51:41] what else?
>> Um, we had I think it was brought up
[51:46] once before about way back in the day it
used to be uh banners along the outfield
[51:52] fence. Um, and no one was sure of why
that was stopped.
[51:58] » Okay.
>> So, we had thoughts of doing that again
[52:02] and getting sponsorships out there um to
also help raise money that way. Yeah,
[52:07] » I know why some of them were taken down
was because they were advertising
[52:10] alcohol. And the other reason was at one
point was somebody Pepsi I think bought
[52:16] the scoreboard and we couldn't advertise
anything else like Vulk or anything
[52:22] competing. But that was it was a long
time ago. But I know that those two
[52:26] reasons.
>> Yeah. I mean, if there's certain
[52:30] stipulations that we can't have certain
things on the banners, then
[52:34] » I know Leslie asked about that a couple
years ago, too, with the possibility.
[52:39] » Um, yeah, just I mean, give us a list.
Let us review it and we can, you
[52:43] [clears throat] know, we probably should
have a
[52:46] if we need a public hearing or not, but
I mean just just let people know what's
[52:49] going on unless it's such a highly used
part for mult multiple groups. So
[52:55] » would the intention be it's paid all for
by donated funds?
[53:00] » Yeah. Right.
>> Um well we kind of were also wondering
[53:04] how we get the funds that were donated
were given in on behalf of the Williams
[53:10] field fund.
>> Okay.
[53:13] » So there is a trust fund Williams trust
fund.
[53:17] » I don't know what's in there. I mean
>> it's about $9,000. $9,000.
[53:21] » But it's unclear whether [clears throat]
that money half of which is accumulated
[53:28] income and half of which would have been
donated funds,
[53:32] but was that given to the town in
response to a specific grant that you
[53:38] filed? And was that work that was
[clears throat]
[53:44] represented in the grant application
actually? That would be in the the trust
[53:49] fund
uh forms that are in the town office,
[53:52] right? Wouldn't that description why it
was formed?
[53:54] » The town was the party that filed the
grant applications to the Williams
[54:03] Foundation for funding.
>> Got it.
[54:06] » And it's not automatic. There has to be
a grant application filed. So there is
[54:12] $9,000, but I don't know when the town
has it earmarked.
[54:18] » Past project.
>> Is that foundation or that fund still
[54:23] uh allowed
>> is what
[54:26] » the set up as a trust fund, right?
>> Yeah.
[54:29] » We we got the money from a fund
>> Williams still exists.
[54:34] » The Williams Foundation exists
headquarters are in Maine.
[54:39] » Okay. So would they have history that
might answer the question if we don't
[54:43] have any records
>> or or would they have any objection to
[54:47] it
>> on the 990s and see what grant funding
[54:52] they made in prior years.
>> Can't see the reason for it. You can see
[54:57] the dollars.
>> Sounds like a death maybe.
[55:02] Do we have an idea how long that's been
out there for sitting there
[55:06] » in the
>> the $9,000 or the the
[55:09] » It's been at least two years before
since there's [clears throat] been any
[55:13] money in or out of that fund.
[55:18] » All right. So, what are your
suggestions? How to figure out how you
[55:22] need it or not?
>> Guru of the trust funds.
[55:27] » Oh, guru trust funds. Well, to have to
have the application that the town filed
[55:34] with the Williams Foundation,
>> right?
[55:38] » I know at one time uh they wanted to
have money to pave the basketball court,
[55:45] » right?
>> And to fix up the log cabin.
[55:48] » Now, whether that was
>> So, we did pave the basketball court,
[55:52] » right? But
>> two years ago, three years ago because
[55:54] that's when we stopped allowing
>> the stakes to be driven into it.
[55:58] » And we also
>> reimbursement saw it.
[56:01] » We also redid the infield with all new
material
[56:05] » two years ago, three years ago.
>> So I don't know if that was part of that
[56:09] whole process or not. So
>> So maybe you just say
[56:12] » yes
>> that money is unencumbered.
[56:16] Um but then if
>> I think the infield mix was all
[56:22] » we paid through the league fees.
>> Yeah.
[56:24] » It was we did all of that
>> and then I think like maybe some of
[56:29] highway helped move it or something but
yeah I don't there were no actual funds
[56:37] » but Cindy in that fund is it can is the
full 9,000 available or just the
[56:42] million?
>> Okay. It's not taxpayer money. It's
[56:45] fully expendable.
>> Okay.
[56:47] » Now, does that that still has to be
applied to the Williams Foundation and
[56:52] seek approval to spend it or is that
>> that money that has been released?
[56:58] » It's an expendable fund
>> because I know in the past monies that
[57:02] were spent from the Williams Foundation,
they had to apply to the foundation for
[57:08] in get approvals to
>> still pay. Um over the past two years I
[57:15] couldn't find any record that the town
had applied to the Williams Foundation
[57:21] for funding which is kind of a loss
>> opportunity. So I would suggest that
[57:28] maybe working with your group uh
application is filed
[57:34] soon to seek funding for 2026,
>> right?
[57:39] » And 2027
represents the 100th anniversary of Mr.
[57:44] Williams gift of that field to the town.
So there may be some sentiment
[57:50] to requesting a larger amount to honor
that anniversary.
[57:56] you guys want to take on that challenge
of uh putting in an application for some
[58:00] grant funding for for new projects? I
mean,
[58:02] » yeah, absolutely.
>> And then um yeah, you know, then we can
[58:06] tackle 2027. I mean, even if we probably
can't do it concurrently, do we? Or
[58:10] could we?
>> Yes. Well, I don't know. We couldn't.
[58:12] » So, the firefighters association, the
ambulance, and then they all combined
[58:16] into one. Michelle actually ended up
combining this into one when it was kind
[58:21] of in its limbo there a couple years
ago.
[58:24] » Yeah.
um they apply for it every year. Yeah.
[58:27] So they used to get like 5,000 for the
firefighter association, four or 5,000
[58:31] for the ambulance. In the past couple
years um they've combined those two
[58:36] works to do they were doing 10 grand
last year I think it was for pagers and
[58:40] stuff like that. But it's a pretty
simple application.
[58:44] » Yes.
>> Um the nice thing is there's some nice
[58:47] local family to it that has ties right
in orange. She calls up Scott
[58:54] says, "Hey,
[58:57] » works out." [clears throat]
>> Yeah.
[59:01] » Well, I've had a few conversations with
her, but there have been long
[59:05] conversations because she points me to
the town.
[59:08] » So,
>> so would you be agreeable to signing an
[59:14] application? Because as the owner of the
land, you're the party.
[59:18] » Yeah.
>> And
[59:21] for any other funding that they may see
they through the Mascot Bank Foundation.
[59:28] How much are you up to as far as
improvements that you want to do? Just a
[59:31] second. Just uh
>> for a number
[59:34] » everything that we've had so far plus um
I didn't get final numbers from the
[59:41] horseshoe people um but you're roughly
looking anywhere from 40 to $50,000
[59:49] but that's anything from new dugouts to
redo the outfield bathrooms to horseshoe
[59:57] pits new playground equipment. Um,
>> we just started new swings. So,
[1:00:02] » yeah. Um, and the biggest amount is the
light system. Yeah. Um, a lot of those
[1:00:08] lights
>> have been there for
[1:00:12] » Well, that was a donated system, so you
know, it wasn't state of the art.
[1:00:17] » Uh, yeah. And we did peek in one of the
boxes and every thing in there is
[1:00:22] corroded. So, I mean, that's
one of the safety concerns.
[1:00:28] Gota depot. [laughter]
>> That's the one that's actually located
[1:00:33] in the water.
[1:00:37] » This book could possibly go.
[clears throat]
[1:00:40] » I I've seen things like that before. I
don't know where
[1:00:44] » there's a lot of water that way.
>> Yeah. So, I mean, like I Yeah, I think
[1:00:47] that's a great idea. If you want to
tackle that taken on as an application,
[1:00:50] I'd be I mean I think the board would be
behind it and then
[1:00:57] to the point of it being 100th
anniversary.
[1:01:00] » Yeah. Which the league has talked about.
We plan on trying to figure out some
[1:01:05] sort of celebration to do um for it all.
We haven't finalized everything because
[1:01:11] we
>> Gary I don't know if I say Gary if you
[1:01:14] guys are all gonna know who he is.
>> Yeah.
[1:01:18] He walks by the ball field every night,
you know,
[1:01:21] and he told me that he could get access
to some articles and stuff. Um,
[1:01:25] » yeah, he's great to
>> to kind of show up some things. Um, so,
[1:01:32] and obviously we're up for suggestions
if you guys have ideas that you would
[1:01:36] like to see at the field. Um,
>> yeah. Now, is there like a specific
[1:01:45] person or point of contact that if we
want to do upgrades
[1:01:49] or if we just give you that list, that's
pretty much the
[1:01:53] » Yeah. So, I mean, ideally, you're going
to give us a list of stuff. You're going
[1:01:56] to give us a way that you're going to
fund it and then we just vote on it as
[1:02:00] far as giving you the go-ahhead to go
forward. So, all right.
[1:02:03] » And then for grant applications though,
we have to review those and sign off on
[1:02:07] those.
>> So, same thing. So you come in, you come
[1:02:10] back here and say, you know, we're
applying for this grant for this kind of
[1:02:13] money. This is what obviously the grant
application is going to say what you're
[1:02:16] using it for, which you already have a
list. So
[1:02:20] » um yeah. So
>> does town have somebody that researches
[1:02:26] grants because there's lots of money for
lots of we talked about it a couple
[1:02:31] times.
>> We attempted to hire someone a few years
[1:02:34] ago, but we didn't know.
It's kind of been like the meeting
[1:02:42] house. They have a person on their
committee that's been really successful
[1:02:46] in doing things like that.
[1:02:50] » You, our assistant administrator, is
pretty adept at looking for money. So,
[1:02:55] hoping that uh grows as he gets more
more feet wet into that whole process.
[1:03:00] » Sure. And I think a lot of the
playground equipment over there was
[1:03:04] funded through the hope foundation at
Hyperm
[1:03:08] like 10 15 years.
>> I think it was I think it was
[1:03:13] longer than ago.
[1:03:17] » Okay. Any other questions? Appreciate it
very much. So any other
[1:03:24] » Oh, so do what are we going to do to
find out about banners? I mean I have no
[1:03:28] objection to that. Our our intentions
were if we were allowed to and we got
[1:03:33] them up, we would take them down like
before snow so then they wouldn't get
[1:03:38] ruined or whatever. And
>> are you talking about material or like
[1:03:41] plywood or
>> No. Uh Joe Tetro. Um
[1:03:45] » the vinyl.
>> The vinyl. So vinyls. Okay.
[1:03:48] » Yeah.
>> Um
[1:03:51] is there a board history of not wanting
alcohol advertised or
[1:03:56] » I don't know. I mean we have policy. It
used to be anyway, you aren't allowed to
[1:04:02] drink alcohol on town property unless
you get a special permit from those life
[1:04:06] boards. So why would you advertise
>> because it makes you money?
[1:04:12] » Most of our be for local businesses
>> to put up banners.
[1:04:18] » So it wouldn't be alcohol.
>> You're not going out to corporate.
[1:04:22] » No.
>> Don't want the Pepsi thing again.
[1:04:24] » Yeah. Well, the Pepsi thing. Yeah. That
was 20 years ago. They bought the
[1:04:27] scoreboard about 20 years ago when the
lights were put in and they put in soda
[1:04:32] machines in town, free soda machines in
town and that was part of the agreement.
[1:04:37] Marvin Rock signed the agreement um
because he was the rep director and uh
[1:04:43] » it was a while
>> people tried to put up coke signs and
[1:04:45] all kinds of other stuff and they were
told they can't do that but those are
[1:04:50] the only two things that I remember.
It's
[1:04:55] » not.
>> Excuse me.
[1:04:58] » Ellie, please.
>> Sorry.
[1:05:01] » Used to have a sign policy. Do you still
have that or
[1:05:05] » have to dig it out?
>> I have a copy of an old one.
[1:05:09] » Probably hasn't changed.
>> Yeah,
[1:05:11] » there's some typos in it. So, um, but I
have a copy in my friends of the Canyon
[1:05:16] Village notebook. Can you uh drop that
off the town office copy of it?
[1:05:21] » We can just take a look at it. If we
have to update it first, then we will
[1:05:27] » maybe the only copy in the distance.
>> Did you bring it down from the museum?
[1:05:33] [laughter]
>> I found it in the archives. You know,
[1:05:36] Rey saved everything. He the history of
that group. Hey,
[1:05:40] » they found that Dolly Parton post pretty
quickly when she passed away. [laughter]
[1:05:45] No, that's in that's in the u Yeah,
that's in the uh
[1:05:49] » you means the call of fame that poster.
>> Yeah. So, I think near near the end of
[1:05:56] the season, so we can probably figure
out banners as you go into next year.
[1:06:01] » Yeah.
>> Any concern with mowing? I mean, I don't
[1:06:05] you know, as far as they're going to be
on the fence, right?
[1:06:09] » They be on the fence out.
>> Yeah. And they're not like they won't be
[1:06:14] to the ground. So, all right. I mean,
you were to wee whack around the fact,
[1:06:18] you shouldn't
>> shouldn't affect [clears throat] the
[1:06:20] banners at all.
>> Good. Anything else from anybody?
[1:06:26] » Motion to adjourn.
>> So, move. All in favor? 95.