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Good evening.

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Before I call the meeting to order, I want to announce that some commissioner, staff, and the public are attending remotely via Zoom, by phone, or onsite. All participants joining by phones should mute their phones when not speaking to avoid background noise. During the meeting, please make sure you announce yourself by name and title every time you speak. So the public that is observing knows

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who is speaking. Please be sure you speak directly into a microphone so that the public

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can hear your comments and an accurate record of the meeting is made. This is critical given

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the number of remote participants and is current guidance from the Kansas Attorney General.

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If public comments are allowed on an agenda item, comments should be limited to the topic of that

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item. For the Commission rules of procedure, comments should not include any rude or derogatory

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remarks, reflections as to integrity, abusive comments, and statements as to motives and

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personalities. I will now call this meeting of the Board of Commissioners for Thursday, September

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December 3, 2026 to order.

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With the clerk, please call the roll.

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Roll call, Ramirez.

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Aye.

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Bill.

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Joseph.

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Pacheco.

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Here.

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Lopez.

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Here.

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Stites.

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Here.

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Davis.

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Here.

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Biden.

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Here.

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Come.

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Howard.

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Present.

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Burns.

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Here.

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Watson.

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Here.

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The invocation is being given by Chaplain Daniel Freeman from the new beginning Missionary Baptist Church.

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I would ask everyone to please stand and remain standing after the invocation for the pledge of allegiance.

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Let us pray.

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Grace has got our Father. We are so honored and thankful for this day, for this opportunity to share one with another Lord.

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We thank you for your sovereignty.

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We thank you for your grace and for your mercy.

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We thank you for the mayor, the commissioners, the city.

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Employees, Lord, we ask your bless and support each and every one of us.

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Lord, we ask your bless and support on our first responders.

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Our health care workers, our law enforcement officers, please, Lord,

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do not forget our soldiers.

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So Lord, as we convene in this meeting, Lord,

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we pray that it will be done decently in order that you will get the glory

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for the sake of this community and for one another.

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We ask these blessings in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit in Jesus name. We pray amen I pledge allegiance to the black

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United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God

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Indivisible with liberty and justice for all

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Chaplain Freeman. Thank you so much. It's so good to see you sir in my best to the family

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will now ask the clerk if there are any revisions to tonight's agenda.

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Yes, Mayor.

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Two revisions have been published.

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The first revision added a resolution extending the emergency declaration to the Administrator's

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agenda and added information to the budget item under the Administrator's agenda.

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The second revision changed the order of the agenda and added two executive sessions to the agenda this evening.

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Those are all the revisions, Mayor.

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Thank you, Clerk.

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All right, we'll now move on to our announcements.

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Patriot Day is 9-11.

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We will never forget.

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Please join us next Friday on September 11th.

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The Kansas City Kansas Fire Department,

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Wyandotte County Sheriff's Office,

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and the KCK Police Department,

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along with unified government officials

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will honor Patriot Day on Friday, September 11th,

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2026 with a brief ceremony commemorating the 25th anniversary of the September 11th, 2001

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terrorist attacks. The ceremony will begin at 8.50 a.m. in front of Memorial Hall and will

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provide an opportunity for community members, elected officials, employees, first responders

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and others to gather and remembrance of the nearly 3,000 people who lost their

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lives and to recognize the courage and sacrifice demonstrated by first responders,

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military personnel, and countless Americans in the days and years that follow.

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The 25th anniversary is a significant milestone and a solemn reminder of the

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importance of remembering those who were lost, honoring those who served, and reflecting

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on the resilience and unity of communities across the nation.

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913 day is celebrated annually on September 13th. It is a celebration of all things great

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in wine.county created in 2020 911 three-day celebrates the pride people culture

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businesses neighborhoods and community spirit that make our community unique.

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It's a great opportunity to get out to connect with community support local

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businesses and just enjoy all that wine.county has to offer. There will be events,

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promotions and family fun that will be happening across the county.

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Now, leading up to 9-1-3-day, September 7th through the 13th, don't miss the inaugural

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Black Restaurant Week featuring $9.13 since specials at participating local restaurants,

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including Wilson's Pizza and Grill, Q13 Sports Bar and Grill, Johns Java and Jazz, and

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holy smoke barbecue. Come celebrate the dot. Grab a bike, go shopping, attend a

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community event, and show your local pride while supporting the businesses and

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people who make YDAC County special. Recently, the mayor's office received

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communication from a frequent attendee of commission meetings. So much

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negativity has been talked about lately that I wanted to share this email with

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you and to the commission in front of the public.

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And this email reads, hello mayor and commissioners, I know it's been a rough few weeks with

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the storms and some crazy meetings.

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I also know that you hear a lot of what is wrong out there and have to absorb a lot of

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strong emotions from the community, much of which stems from information or narratives

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that aren't necessarily true.

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I wanted to reach out and counter that with some long overdue praise if I may.

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I am always so impressed with each of you, the way you tirelessly see tirelessly serve

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the community, well maybe we're all a little tired this week.

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But act professionally, even when your constituents don't, and truly go the extra mile to make

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why not county a better place, as far as need to do more in my little patch of the county.

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a lot of people always tell me that they could never do my job but I always say

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that I could never do your job. You all are incredible and I am truly grateful

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for all that you do. I know that even in saying this I am probably missing the

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many things you do behind the scenes that people don't know about and for that I

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thank you as well. I wish people could walk a mile in your shoes before they

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criticize you, seek to understand before they judge and stand shoulder to shoulder with

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you to tackle the challenges rather than take a combative stance.

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I just wanted to reach out and let you know that I am cheering you on each and every day.

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You're always in my prayers and if there is ever anything I can do to help or serve, please

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let me know.

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You are some of my favorite heroes of Wyndt. County.

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Kind regards, Annie Erickson, KCK Police Department Chaplain.

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Thank you Chaplain Erickson.

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I appreciate your heart and I appreciate the kind words that you have shown towards the mayor and towards the commissioners.

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And thank you for also reminding each of us that we are stronger together.

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Thank you again. Let's give Miss Annie a little round of a pause word.

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Just showing us some love.

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All right.

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We will now move to the land bank consent agenda. I will entertain a motion to adjourn as the board of commissioners and call us back to order as the land bank of trustees.

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Howard so moved. Davis second. All right. It's been moved by Howard and second by Davis.

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Yes, Roca, please.

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Roca, Ramirez.

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Aye.

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Phil.

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Pacheco.

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Lopez.

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Stites.

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Davis.

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Biden.

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Cump.

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Howard.

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Burns.

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Aye.

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The vote is 10-0, the motion carries.

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Thank you, commissioners and clerk.

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All right.

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We'll now move on to the land bank board of trustees consent agenda.

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Does any member of the commission or a county administrator wish to set aside any item on

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from the land bank consent agenda.

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Move to approve all items of Smith and David's second.

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All right, it's been moved by Ramirez and second by Davis.

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Roll call, please.

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Roll call, Ramirez.

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Aye.

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Hill.

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Aye.

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A checko.

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Low pass.

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Stites.

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Davis.

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Biden.

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Aye.

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Cump.

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Howard.

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Aye.

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Burns.

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Aye.

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The vote is 10-0, the motion carries.

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Thank you, commissioners and clerk.

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I will now entertain a motion to adjourn

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as the Lamb Bank Board of Trustees

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and calls back to order as the Board of Commissioners.

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Howard, so moved.

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Second, Ramirez.

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All right, it's been moved by Howard

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and second by Ramirez.

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Roll call, please.

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Roll call, Ramirez.

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Aye.

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Hill.

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Aye.

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Macheko.

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Lopez.

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Aye.

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Stites.

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Davis.

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Bynam.

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Come.

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Howard.

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Burns.

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Aye.

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The vote is 10-0.

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The motion carries.

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Thank you, clerk and commissioners.

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We will now move to the mayor's agenda.

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We have one item scheduled.

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The first item is number 7.1.

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Is adoption of a resolution amending the commission meetings.

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I will ask our legal staff to present the item.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor and the commission.

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Good evening.

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Mike Farley with Eugene Legal.

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I'm bringing forward tonight an amended resolution to the current Board of Commissioners schedule for 2026, 2027.

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The reason I'm bringing this forward is to have the commission designate October 1st as a meeting in which planning and zoning agenda matters can be heard.

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The reason for this is because the current PNZ meeting scheduled on September 24th, which

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would be the meeting for the September cases, is too close in time to the City Planning

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Commission meeting for some cases.

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So under state law, changes of zone, and then case laws also said that special use permits

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are eligible for a protest petition.

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Citizens have up to 14 days to file that protest petition, so we would need at least 14 days

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between the end of the planning commission meeting in which a recommendation is made and then

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those 14-day deadline and hopefully a few more days for processing after that. So again, September 24th

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is just going to be too soon for those meetings and I've looked up and there's nearly going to be a

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dozen changes of zone and special use permits that could potentially be coming forward. They would

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have to be held over anyways to follow state law and instead of going all the way to the October 29th

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meeting. I'm proposing an amendment so that October 1st can also hear planning and zoning

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items as well. Additionally, a little sign note I am, I did also make an amendment so that

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the September 24th PNZ meeting can also be designated as a regular Board of Commissioners

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meeting as well. However, the mayor holds the authority to move agenda items there, so I will

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leave that up to her to do that. But it is formalized in case we want to go that route.

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Thank you. All right. The commissioners have any questions, comments? Hearing none, I need a motion.

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Davis moves to approve. Okay, it's been moved by Davis and second by Hill. Roll call, please. Roll call.

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So, Vermeeris?

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Aye.

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Gil?

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Aye.

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Cheko?

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Aye.

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Yokez?

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Aye.

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Stites?

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Aye.

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Davis?

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Aye.

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Lynaum?

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Aye.

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Comp?

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Aye.

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Howard?

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Aye.

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Burns?

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Aye.

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Notice, 10 to 0, motion carries.

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All right.

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We do not have any public hearing agendas this evening, so we'll now move to item number 9.0.

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All right?

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I'm really good regular consent agenda.

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the item number eight dot one.

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Residant. All right, that takes us a regular consent agenda.

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Does any member have or commissioner account administrator

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with the set aside any items on the regular consent agenda?

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Here and not I need a motion to for approval of the regular

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consent agenda.

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Move to approve. Second.

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All right, it's been moved by Ramirez and second by

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Aye.

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Burns, roll call, please.

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Roll call, Ramirez.

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Aye.

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Hill.

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Aye.

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Kacheco.

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Lopez.

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Stites.

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Davis.

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Bynum.

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Cump.

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Howard.

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Aye.

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Burns.

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Aye.

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Photos 10-0, motion carries.

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Okay.

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Moving on.

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No public hearing agenda.

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Go to.

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Item.

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We do. We have one item schedule. We do. Schmidt. Thank you.

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Item number 9.1 is scheduled to receive public comments regarding renewal of the self-supporting municipal improvement district. I will ask Mr. Jeff Conway from the legal counsel to introduce the item.

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Mary commissioners, Jeff Conway legal and I'll be I'll be painfully brief. There's a lot of things to get through, but I think I can do it pretty quickly. I want to do a brief overview of the statute.

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to set up the SMID, if the locality wants to adopt the SMID, there's a process to do that.

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The first iteration of that was an eight-year plan.

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Then that was renewed as a 10-year plan. That's the one we're in right now.

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And so then the idea, that'll expire December 31st of this year.

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So then the idea is to set up another possible 10 years, and we're working through that process.

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And I've got a single slide, not ten slides, but just one that I'd like to pull up on the screen that shows the process.

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The statute is very rigid as far as how to step through this process.

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So you see in June 4th, the Smith Board, advisory board recommended renewal for the ten years.

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That put in motion the hearing dates.

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So it went to EDNF and then it went to full commission.

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and then the adoption of the resolution that set the hearing date, which would be September 3rd tonight.

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That had to be published three times, of course, by statute.

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The City Planning Commission had to hear the item and deem that it was consistent with the master plan, so that's happened already.

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The resolution had to be sent out to all property owners.

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and this is the odd thing.

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It's sent out to all property owners,

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but eventually only the commercial property owners

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in the district will be the ones that will be taxed.

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For some reason, the statute says it goes out.

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The notice needs to go out to all property owners.

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So in case you had some comments about that,

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it'll just be the commercial folks

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that'll be taxed within the district.

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So that's the September 3rd is the public hearing.

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and then by statute there must be a 30-day layover before it can be acted upon so we've got it scheduled for adoption of the ordinance on October 15th.

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So you'll see it one more time. I don't think it was any need to go to standing committee for that.

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It can just, this is the multiple times that you've seen it so it'll be set up and passed on October 15th and then that should be the end of the process.

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So, as you can see, you know, it started in spring, and now we'll be adopting in the fall,

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but this is the required public hearing on reestablishment of the smid, smid, smid.

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So, I wanted to just touch on a few things.

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The smid statutes is a cluster of statutes.

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The main one is KSA 12-1796 is the process that we're in right now, and it lays it out, all those steps.

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But there's other statutes that come into play.

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There's a definition section, there's multiple, there's a possibility of issuing bonds.

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That hasn't been done, but it provides the opportunity to do that.

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It talks about the purpose of the smid mainly to help with improvements or services within the smid district.

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And I just wanted to point out improvements, could be sanitary storm sewers, drainage conduits, street grading, et cetera.

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So there's a list of those, and then the services, I will read those because that does come into play with what's currently with the smid.

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The services, this is the state definition, means one, the provision of special or additional services such as sanitation, the security of persons and property, and the care and maintenance of public facilities, including sidewalks and other public areas, to the financial support of public transportation service and publicly owned parking facilities, including the operation and maintenance of parking facilities.

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three of the development plans and programs for the future development of the district for the development promotion and supportive community events and activities open to the general public and five any other service, which the city is authorized perform and which the city doesn't not also perform in this to the same extent on a city wide basis, so it's kind of specialized for that area.

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So the statute lays out how to do this each time that there's any change or offering of a new improvement or service, you have to step through the process, have a public hearing and adopt that new improvement or service.

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There's also, if there's opposition, it provides for that.

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So during the process, if 40% or more of the owners sign a petition and they can take

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it off of the matter off of the agenda, as a matter of fact, there could be, the commission

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could propose to dissolve it then yourself, but then if there's a petition of 51% of the

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owners, then that could stay that matter.

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So there's all kinds of checks and balances throughout the system.

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This creation of the advisory board, which is the board that you probably talk about is

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Smith.

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So they meet periodically.

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They decide the priorities for the district, what's the best use of these monies.

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And their advisory, they bring it back.

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The governing board for the Smith is you.

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So you get the final say as to how to put your imprint on this district.

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They're proposing the district is going to stay the same, the same size, the same boundaries as has been the last 10 years.

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I think that's most of the highlights that I wanted to touch.

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Yeah, and if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer any questions.

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I also would like to introduce Edwin Birch, who's the chair of the SMID.

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He's here tonight and Don Ratan, who's the executive director of the downtown shareholders.

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And I think I may have mentioned this before, but there is a little bit of confusion.

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The SMID is the taxing entity that is created.

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So, as you know, taxes that is not voluntary, you have to pay the taxes, but it's called the self-supported municipal improvement district, so that basically means they vote the entities within the district get to vote whether to add that extra tax on to them for those services within the district.

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And so the downtown shareholders is a voluntary group that's similar to a Chamber of Commerce.

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That's focused on actions in the downtown area.

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Like I said, it's voluntary. You can choose to join or not or whatever. It's kind of a booster group.

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It's a group that looks at what's best for the downtown, could focus on marketing,

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could focus on a lot of things. As you can probably guess, the Venn diagram of the smid and the

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downtown shareholders has a little bit of overlap. The priorities might be shared in some places,

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but the two groups have two entirely different purposes. And so the one is essentially raising the funds

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and deciding what's the best use of the public dollars and the other one is trying to figure out

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what's the best way, what's the future,

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what's the vision of the downtown.

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And they oftentimes work together in the statute

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allows the smid because there's no staff for anything.

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They can put out an RFP as to who couldn't serve

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as their agent and to do the accounting

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and the housekeeping that needs to be done.

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And they did that and they chose downtown shareholders

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was the entity chosen.

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So they work in conjunction, but they're not the same thing.

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There are a few people that serve on both boards, but by and

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large, they are separate entities.

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They're here tonight to work in tandem and

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to present kind of the vision for the next 10 years.

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So I'll turn that over to those folks now.

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Mayor CEO, Christopher Watson.

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I am here to ask for your support for the 10-year renewal of the downtown self-supported municipal improvement district, as mentioned before, as known as a smith.

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I want to begin with a simple message.

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we cannot give up on downtown KCK. Yes, downtown still faces significant

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redevelopment challenges. We know there are vacant buildings, properties that

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need investment, and other challenges that we cannot solve overnight. But we

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also have something that's very important here and that's opportunity. We are

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are seeing signs of renewed investment in interest, the redevelopment of the former

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abandoned UNB bank building, the purchase of the brotherhood building by a new owner,

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and the future development of a new library.

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These are all examples just a few of what is possible.

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These investments matter because momentum creates opportunity.

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A strong, vibrant downtown is essential to sustaining that momentum and attracting even more investment.

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That is where the downtown shareholders and the SMID play an important role.

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The SMID supports the foundation of a healthy downtown by creating cleaner, safer, and more welcoming environment where investment can take hold.

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where people want to spend time and patronize our businesses. Under the

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leadership of Don Vretan, the executive director of the downtown shareholders,

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with the commitment from the Schmidt board, we have the leadership and the

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capacity today to build on the progress you are seeing now.

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Renewing the Schmidt for another 10 years gives us the ability to continue

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that work, but I also want to be very clear about what the Schmid is and what it is not

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and just touched on some of that.

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The Schmid is not responsible for downtown vacancies, delinquent taxes, property investment

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decisions, code issues, or property ownership decisions.

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Those are larger challenges that require the collaboration of many of our stakeholders

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and community partners.

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What the Schmid can do is help create the conditions for progress

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and through continued partnership with the unified government,

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the Board of Public Utilities, the downtown shareholders,

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downtown property owners, businesses, and the community,

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we can continue advocating for and investing in the future,

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potential, the future potential of downtown KCK.

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so we have a choice here tonight. We can look at these challenges of downtown say

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there's just too much. Push it to the side. Or we can look at the progress that

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is beginning to emerge and decide that now is the time to keep going.

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As a

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resident, I think we have to continue to keep going. I believe downtown KCK is

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is worth fighting for.

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I believe the best days of downtown can still be ahead of us.

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We cannot give up when there is opportunity right in front of us.

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I respectfully ask the mayor and commissioners

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to approve the 10-year renewal of the downtown submit

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and give us the opportunity to continue this work.

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To build on the momentum that we have now,

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to attract new investment and to help reignite the potential of downtown KCK.

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Again, this is not the time to give up on downtown Kansas City, Kansas.

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I want to thank the Schmidt Board.

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Many of them are here with me.

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Do you want to stand up?

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I want to thank them for their continued commitment,

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Thank you, Mayor, CEO, Christa Watson, thank you,

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Unified Government Board of Commissioners, thank you,

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Allen.

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Thank you for your consideration tonight,

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and hopefully for your support.

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God bless you all.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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I'm Don Ratan.

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I'm the executive director for the downtown shareholders

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of Kansas City, Kansas City.

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Thanks for giving us some time to talk about what we're doing in downtown. I'm very excited about it.

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If you'll pull up the PowerPoint, I'd appreciate that.

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So as we say, we are setting ourselves up to be clean, safe, activated, growing, strengthening downtown through placemaking, business, business engagement, safety initiatives.

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And long-term planning. On the next slide. For the Schmid, this is where downtown property owners are investing in their own district. This is funded by property tax assessments and other fines. And you have in your packet a 10-year retrospective of our actuals as well as the mill levies and our budgets. For 2026, for the Advilorum tax,

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We collected, we are actually on track to get $220,000, but it was budgeted for $233,000.

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We said that we'd be revenue neutral in 2027.

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We submitted the budget and it came back from UG that we would get about $177,000.

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In both of those years, we have been revenue neutral.

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We also get annual contributions in lieu of tax assessments from the UG, from BPU, and

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from KU Health Systems.

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The reason for this is that nonprofits and governmental entities are not subject to

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this tax.

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So this is a good neighbor, a good investment since their work and have their business

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downtown.

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The UG has several locations.

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This is their voluntary contribution.

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The Schmidt has been active since 2008.

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And as we talked about, our primary focus is cleaning, security, and marketing.

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It gets renewed every 10 years and DTS manages it.

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There is an advisory board that each one of you has appointed a member of and we meet

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on a monthly basis.

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Again, it is not for residential or nonprofits.

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You also have a comparison chart in your packet that I gave you as well, but going on to talk

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about DTS.

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Now, DTS has, on the next slide, has our boundaries listed above, so downtown is bigger

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than Schmidt.

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Schmidt is within downtown.

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You also have a Schmidt map that's in your packet.

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DTS was founded in 2005, three years before the Schmidt happened, and our mission is those

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three bullet points that you see there.

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Supporting resources, economic growth, development, safe welcoming and historic.

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So we are the only organization that is singularly focused on downtown's revitalization.

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And Schmidt is a lever that a catalyst, a service that helps us deliver our mission and

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our vision.

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You'll see in your packet later that there is an downtown evolution triangle, which when I've met with many of you one-on-one, we've discussed it.

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At the bottom of that triangle is similar to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It has to be clean and safe.

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So we have to have safety. We have to have cleanliness.

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and as we retain and attract and take care of the needs of our current businesses,

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then we attract new businesses, we attract new residents and we become a destination.

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But the foundation of that is a clean and safe district.

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On the next slide, as we were talking about safety, Brick said,

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So the map is here.

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You'll see where our boundaries are.

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It's listed there at the bottom.

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You also have a copy of this map in your packet.

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On the next slide, it's just a list of all of our board members.

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On the Schmidt board and the DTS board.

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All of these people serve voluntarily.

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00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,380
They all care about downtown.

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00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:53,880
They give their time, their talent and their treasure

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00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,580
to help deliver our mission in various ways.

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00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,580
Most of the board on DTS is new.

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00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,900
We have been very, very deliberate about having people

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00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:09,780
on our board who are engaged and passionate

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00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:11,820
about downtown's future.

499
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:13,920
Again, no one has money.

500
00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:17,600
And then I am one of the employees.

501
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,460
I am the sole full-time employee.

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00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:28,180
We have a part-time employee that serves through funds provided by a

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00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:35,180
Kaufman grant, not Schmidt or DTS funds, and that admin is bilingual to help

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00:34:35,180 --> 00:34:38,100
with some of our communication across the district.

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00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,860
On the next slide, so just

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to dive a little bit deeper into the cleaning, it has continued uninterrupted

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00:34:49,740 --> 00:34:56,520
service by Simmons since we started. The list of services they provide is listed below.

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They work Monday through Saturday and we pay Simmons approximately $9,000 per month

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00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,260
and we've just introduced $25,000 into our budget to help with biohazard cleaning as a result

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00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:17,700
of feedback from business owners in the district for biohazard issues that Simmons is not certified

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00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:28,120
to clean. On the next page, for safety, we did transition to using the KCK Police Department.

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00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:36,040
We did a trial from July through December and we went full-time permanent with KCK police officers

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00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,740
in January of this year. This shift is a strategic investment in increased accountability,

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00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:50,760
transparency, response coordination, credibility and visibility when we say we mean we want downtown to be safe.

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00:35:52,180 --> 00:36:01,080
We spend about, and it has been impactful, as I talked with business owners, they recognize they see the change and it has been impactful.

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:07,680
We spend about $89,000 per year for our dedicated police officer.

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00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:14,340
As we went into this change from our contract security,

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00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:18,220
we actually had planned in our budget for two police officers,

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00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:24,000
and the board will evaluate at the end of this year whether we will pay for two,

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00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:28,540
or stay with one, hopefully before the police bit process comes up.

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00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:35,480
You'll see when we get to results, even in that six month trial, when we made the transition,

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00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:42,940
we had over a hundred arrests made. So it is definitely impactful. On the next page,

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00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:51,000
the board definitely believes in financial stewardship. The renewal, again, has a revenue

524
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,960
neutral mill levy for that was this year and for next year, while we're continuing the

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00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,700
central downtown services and initiatives. One thing Jeff didn't mention that in our proposed

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00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:10,840
resolution, the previous resolution had a maximum mill levy of 13. Our board decided to reduce our

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00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:19,640
maximum mill levy to 11 in the new resolution. We do get audited annually and we completed our

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00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,740
are audited in August, September.

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00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:25,520
On the next page,

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here's just some of our numbers

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00:37:29,620 --> 00:37:32,200
with cleaning hours, trash bags collected.

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00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:37,900
To date, we have for cleaning 3,230 hours

533
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,780
and 670 trash bags collected.

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00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,960
You also see some of our security information.

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,120
The rest I talked about when we did our trial

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00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,260
from July through December of last year

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00:37:50,260 --> 00:37:53,640
and then you'll see our revenue for 24 and 25.

538
00:37:54,140 --> 00:37:57,220
As I said, our revenue, our budget,

539
00:37:57,220 --> 00:38:01,380
was set for $233,000 from just the taxes,

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000
and we're tracking at $220 this year.

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00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,840
On the next slide.

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Here's some of our results, and this is both the T.S.

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and Schmidt results, because we're collaborating.

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00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:19,640
We have gotten $160,000 in grants in 2025,

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00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,240
5 and quite frankly, I try to use funds from grants first before we pull anything from

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00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:25,660
the budget.

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00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:33,640
Another thing is that we again have bilingual capacity through a grant.

548
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,360
We did an open space tour where we had 11 vacant buildings downtown.

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00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:44,820
Open their doors to let the community come in and see that could be developers, investors

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00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:45,800
or just those people.

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00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:53,180
And that has resulted in at least two properties being sold and started back up.

552
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,360
We have launched a large employer coalition just to make sure we're supporting our downtown

553
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,820
businesses and asking them specifically what they need.

554
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:10,720
And then we have asked resources from the UGE to come and talk to those business owners.

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00:39:12,020 --> 00:39:14,740
We've done a SWOT analysis that strengths opportunities.

556
00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:19,540
weaknesses and threats just to again continue to get information from the

557
00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:24,800
community on what they need. We did recently most recently an opportunity

558
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,680
walk with Mayor Watson thank you very much for your time and during that time we

559
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:35,920
walked to 24 properties in over 90 degree heat. Of those properties we talked to

560
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,980
four emerging business owners like the people who just bought Brotherhood, Laura at

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00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:48,660
the library talked about her project, Sean and Lori talked about the art studios that

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00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:52,300
are going in at the Tucker building, and then we visited five businesses.

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00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:58,760
We visited Raoul, who owns Federino's, we talked to the general manager at McDonald's,

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00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,220
and so it was a nice, comprehensive visit.

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00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:07,300
We also stopped in front of vacant buildings, again, we talked about vacancies, and we had

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00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:12,740
renderings from an architectural student because those were conversation starters and

567
00:40:12,740 --> 00:40:15,360
imagine nation generators to say, what could this become?

568
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:19,380
Not a commitment, but just something to get the thoughts

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00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:22,660
and get the brain cells going to say, what could this be?

570
00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:24,020
What could we have downtown?

571
00:40:24,860 --> 00:40:26,700
We had about 50 people on that walk,

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00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,280
had lots of great ideas, lots of great questions,

573
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,580
and so just continue to tap into the community.

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00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,220
I also recently met with Lieutenant Governor Tollin,

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who's actually done some work in downtown revitalization,

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00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:49,120
urban as well. And you'll see the information that I discussed with him in your packet that's called roots to revitalization.

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00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:57,580
We did talk a lot about vacancy from a DTS standpoint because vacancies impact so many other things.

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00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Vacancies will help safety, they'll help blight, economic development, jobs, entrepreneurship.

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00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:19,640
So it has so many tentacles. Of course, vacancies is one of DTS's most important things to help with. But again, as Edwin said, that is a big group of collaborators helping to make that happen.

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00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:32,200
We're kind of the matchmaker. We can help a new business match up with a business with a building for our opportunity walk. We had three restaurants walk around with us looking for potential sites.

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On the back of that, if I can divulge for a bit, on the back of the packet I share it

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00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:47,720
with Lieutenant Governor Tollin, you'll see that evolution triangle that I referred to.

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00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:56,520
On the next page, some of our projects that we're working on right now is a redevelopment

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or a master plan.

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00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:03,000
Every time we've asked for feedback, every time we've gotten in a group, other than saying

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00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,220
and what's going on with Reardon Center,

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00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,140
someone says we need a master plan for downtown.

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00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:10,520
The last time we did a master plan downtown was 2007.

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00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,740
I firmly believe that this is one of our highest priorities.

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00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:18,120
We need to all get together, get on the same page,

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and have a discussion,

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so they were all moving in the same direction,

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00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:23,680
coordinated to bring downtown back.

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00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:25,320
I think there are a lot of people

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00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,960
and a lot of groups who have great ideas

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00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,280
for all of the Northeast,

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00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:31,300
but we kind of work in silos.

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00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:37,480
One of the things that, again, as I met with several of you is one of my themes for

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00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,400
my first few months was a radical collaboration.

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00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,080
We have to collaborate and get all on the same page in order to come up.

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00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,540
We're working on some pop-ups.

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00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:51,340
We're even changing some crosswalks to introduce some cultural elements.

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00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,380
We've engaged some youth with internships.

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00:42:55,380 --> 00:43:01,360
We are working on more fund development and marketing the district.

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I do think that marketing the district is an opportunity area that we could do a little bit better.

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00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:14,640
And so with the Schmidt and BTS board, we've had lots of ideas generated where you see the stars.

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00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:19,800
That is either work that's being done in collaboration with another group.

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Or that is work that's being funded by a grant.

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00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,980
I'm happy to give more detail if you like and if you like more detail you also have

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00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:36,260
our for page action plan in your packet on the next page.

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00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,060
We have put out a we put out a business survey this summer and this is what we heard

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00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:48,620
from the survey most continued most support continuing the Schmid businesses recognize

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00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:54,980
positive momentum they like the increased focus on safety but they definitely still have

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00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:58,560
concerns about safety, cleanliness, and the unhoused.

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00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:02,440
The biohazard cleaning has had a positive response,

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and then what we should focus on in future investments.

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00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,060
And then all of the things that would

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00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:11,560
have the biggest impact downtown.

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So we, again, have one point, something FTEs.

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00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,920
So we're always looking for partners in this work.

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On the next page, if we do all of these,

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and we meet our mission. This is our ROI.

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And everybody wants this.

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00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,080
We're going to strengthen this to quarter.

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00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,820
We're going to make downtown the place to be.

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00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,440
People are going to come from chiefs games and want to have a drink in downtown,

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00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,760
either coming from or to.

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00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:49,760
And I like to emphasize that downtown is for everyone.

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Downtowners are ours.

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00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,600
It's not just the residents that live down there or the businesses.

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It's all of ours who live, work and play in Kansas City, Kansas, and we should all want

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00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:10,090
To have that ROI become a reality in the near future. The final couple of pages, it's just a few pictures if they pop up.

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00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:18,760
Just some activities we had in the district spending the day with the firefighters and interns, the opportunity walk.

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00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:31,460
Another thing with another intern meeting commissioners, she's excited talking to local businesses, new murals going up in the business and just a picture with the

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00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:38,020
A few of us disjointed that we're just trying to collaborate and work together to make the

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00:45:38,020 --> 00:45:40,100
district have us come back and revitalize.

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00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:46,920
So we want to go on the last page from forgotten to unforgettable vacancies to vibrance.

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00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:54,280
And on the last page with a clear strategy to maintain momentum, we'll have an impact

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00:45:54,940 --> 00:45:59,260
with the Schmid and downtown KCK makes it come back.

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Thank you.

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00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:03,950
Thank you.

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00:46:11,010 --> 00:46:11,110
All right.

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00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:14,790
Mr. Conway, do you have anything else that you want to present through the team?

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00:46:15,570 --> 00:46:21,210
If not, I will now open the public hearing and ask the clerk any notifications where

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00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:26,150
we see from the public who wish to express their comments regarding this item.

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00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:29,370
Mayor, we've received five comments at this time.

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I'll read those with your permission.

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00:46:31,390 --> 00:46:32,050
Please read.

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00:46:32,490 --> 00:46:32,810
Thank you.

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00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:34,150
The first one.

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From Drew Simpson.

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00:46:38,660 --> 00:46:42,600
Mayor and member of the Unified Government Board of Commissioners, Unified Government

653
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,440
and Wine.county.

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00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:47,900
Dear Mayor and Board members of the Board of Commissioners, I'm writing on behalf of

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00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:52,380
Kansas Main Street, a program of the Kansas Department of Commerce to share our perspective

656
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:57,160
on the role that efforts such as the downtown self-supported municipal improvement district

657
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,400
complain supporting downtown revitalization.

658
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,420
The Kansas Main Street program works with communities across the state using the nationally recognized

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00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:09,640
main street approach, which focuses on four interconnected areas, economic vitality, design,

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00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,440
promotion, and organization. At its core, the approach encourages communities to bring together

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00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,340
local government, businesses, property owners, organizations, and residents around a shared

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00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:24,140
vision for their downtown. Many of the activities supported through the downtown Smith complement

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00:47:24,140 --> 00:47:29,200
this approach. Efforts related to maintenance, public spaces, way-finding, place-making, promotion,

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00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,920
events, and the overall downtown environment can help create a welcoming,

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00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,060
district and support broader community revitalization efforts.

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00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,040
One of the lessons we see through our work with the Main Street communities across Kansas

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00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,120
is that downtown revitalization is a long-term process.

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00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,780
It often involves many partners and a combination of public, private, and community resources

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working together over time.

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00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,800
Locally developed tools such as SMIDS are one way communities can support that collaborative

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00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,220
approach.

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00:47:54,780 --> 00:47:59,120
We appreciate the work taking place in downtown Kansas City, Kansas, and the commitment of

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00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,920
many individuals, businesses, property owners, organizations, and local leaders who are involved

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00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,600
in those efforts. Kansas Main Street values the opportunity to work alongside communities as

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00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,020
they consider strategies that support strong, active, and welcoming downtown districts.

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00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:19,580
Thank you for your continued commitment to downtown Kansas City, Kansas. We look forward to continuing

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00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:24,860
our partnership and supporting the community's downtown revitalization efforts. Drew Simpson,

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00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:27,420
and staff director Kansas Department of Commerce.

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00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,940
Our next comment comes from Randy Lopez, President and CEO, Wine Dot Health Foundation.

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00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:38,440
As a stakeholder and developer in downtown Kansas City, Kansas, the Wine Dot Health Foundation

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00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,100
is personally committed to its revitalization and long-term success.

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00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:48,440
We believe downtown KCK has tremendous potential and we have chosen to invest our time, energy

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00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,460
and leadership in helping move that vision forward.

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00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:57,680
For that reason, WHO strongly supports renewal of the downtown Kansas City, Kansas, self-supported

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00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,140
municipal improvement district.

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00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,640
The SMAD is one of the most important tools we have to create the conditions necessary

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for revitalization.

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00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,280
It allows downtown property owners and stakeholders to invest directly in improvements that support

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safety and security, cleanliness and appearance, vacancy reduction, vibrancy and foot traffic,

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00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:20,680
economic, small business growth, economic impact, shared investment.

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00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,880
Revitalization requires consistent investment, partnership and a shared commitment over time.

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The current SMAID expires December 31, 2026.

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00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:35,200
Losing this dedicated resource would be a significant setback at a time when we are working to build momentum,

694
00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:39,100
reduce vacancies, attract investment, and strengthen downtown KCK.

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00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:46,000
As an organization deeply invested in the future of downtown, we respectfully ask you to support renewal of

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this mid. Thank you for your leadership and your consideration of this important investment in

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00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:58,700
downtown Kansas City, Kansas. Our next comment comes from Scott Coop, President Security Bank of

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00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:04,740
Kansas City. Security Bank of Kansas City is committed to downtown KCK's revitalization and long-term

699
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:09,460
success. For that reason, we strongly support renewal of the downtown Kansas City, Kansas,

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00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:14,240
self-supported municipal improvement district. The SMAID is one of the most important tools we have

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00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,860
have to create the conditions necessary for revitalization.

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00:50:17,540 --> 00:50:21,600
It allows downtown property owners and stakeholders to invest directly in improvements

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00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,620
that support safety and security, cleanliness and appearance, vacancy reduction, vibrancy

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00:50:27,620 --> 00:50:31,880
and foot traffic, small business growth, economic impact, shared investment.

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Revitalization does not happen through one project or one organization.

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It requires consistent investment, partnership, and a shared commitment over time.

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The current SMIT expires December 31, 2026.

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Losing this dedicated resource would be a significant setback at a time when we are

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working to build momentum, reduce vacancies, attract investment, and strengthen downtown

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00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,540
KCK.

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00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,320
Thank you for your leadership and for consideration of this important investment in downtown

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00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Kansas City, Kansas.

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00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:04,540
Next comment is from Renee Hadley, KCK Chamber.

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00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:09,520
On behalf of the Kansas City, Kansas Chamber of Commerce, I'm writing to express our strong

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support for the renewal of the downtown Kansas City Kansas self-supported municipal improvement

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district. The KCK Chamber is committed to fostering a thriving business environment throughout

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our community and we recognize that a vibrant downtown is essential to the economic success

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and quality of life of Kansas City Kansas. The renewal of the SMID will help ensure continued

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focus on initiatives that strengthen our downtown business community including enhancing its

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and safety and security for employees, customers, residents and visitors, maintaining a clean and

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welcoming environment that encourages investment community pride, supporting small businesses

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and entrepreneurs by creating a more attractive and accessible business district, increasing

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foot traffic and activity that benefits local restaurants, retailers, and service providers.

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Encouraging redevelopment and reducing vacancies through coordinated improvement efforts, leveraging

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private and public investments to create a long-term economic growth and opportunity.

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As a chamber, we understand that sustainable economic development happens through collaboration.

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The SMID provides a valuable framework for that collaboration and helps align resources

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to achieve meaningful results for downtown KCK.

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CanCity Kansas continues to build momentum and now is not the time to step back from efforts

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in improving our downtown and make a positive impact for our community.

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Renewing the SMID will provide continuity, stability, and the resources necessary to support

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ongoing revitalization in future growth.

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We respectfully encourage you to support the renewal of the downtown CanCity Kansas SMID

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and continue investing in the success of our downtown business community.

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Doing so will help ensure that downtown KCK remains a place where businesses can prosper,

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residents can gather, and visitors can experience the unique character and energy of our city.

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Thank you for your leadership and your consideration of this important matter.

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The last comment I have is from Matt Watkins, Reese Commercial Real Estate.

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Dear commissioners, on behalf of business owners in the downtown corridor,

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I write to express support for the renewal of the Smith funding.

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This letter reflects the will of multiple business owners I represent in the downtown corridor

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and ancillary spaces associated with the downtown shareholders of which I am a board member.

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This funding provides critical infrastructure that connects the neighborhood, advances

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equity, and strengthens economic opportunity for our residents and businesses that call Kansas

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City Kansas home.

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As a stakeholder and DTS board member, I am personally committed to downtown KCK's revitalization

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and long-term success.

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I believe downtown KCK has tremendous potential and I have chosen to invest my time, energy,

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and leadership in helping move that vision forward.

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Among many reasons, I strongly support renewal of the downtown Kansas City Kansas self-supported

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municipal improvement district.

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The smith is one of the most important tools we have to create the conditions necessary

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for revitalization.

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It allows downtown property owners and stakeholders to invest directly in improvements that support

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safety and security, cleanliness and appearance, vacancy reduction,

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vibrancy and foot traffic, small business growth, economic impact,

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and shared investment. I can personally test to helping drive investment

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in the downtown corridor through my work with the KCC, KCC foundation,

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and the new downtown campus. The sale of the Tucker Building,

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along with the collaboration with Billed Wycoe at 601 North 6th Street.

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The work of the KCC housing authority will also bring significant investment

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to this space, and I implore you to support these investments with the renewal of the SMID.

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These investments, along with new ownership at the Brotherhood Building, will help the

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momentum of downtown continue to pull new investors to the area.

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Now is not the time to disinvest in downtown KCK.

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We need to drive more investment into our downtown, and I'm committed to being a part of that process.

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The current SMID expires December 31, 2026.

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Losing this dedicated resource would be a significant setback at a time when we are working to build momentum, reduce vacancies, attract investment, and strengthen downtown KCK.

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As someone personally invested in the future of downtown, I respectfully ask you to support renewal of this mid.

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Thank you for your leadership and your consideration of this important investment in downtown Kansas City, Kansas.

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Mayor, those are all the comments that our office has received.

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We're those those same ones that were received in the mayor's office?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Are there any clerk individuals here in the chambers who expressed their intention to

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address the commission on this subject?

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No one signed up to speak this evening.

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Is there anyone in here who would like to speak?

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All right.

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Well, are there any questions or comments from the commission board?

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Mr. Bynum.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Couple, I've got a question for legal and then for dawn.

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Before you do that, I think if there are no other comments from the public, I'll close the public clearing.

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Mayor, I'd just like to verify we have no one online either.

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Thank you very much.

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Now, I really officially close the public hearing.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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So Mr. Conway, I just simply can't remember the makeup of this mid advisory board that we make appointments to

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is the makeup of that board in statute or is it held within the bylaws of the smith itself?

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The resolution or the ordinance is what lays out the advisory board and how they're appointed.

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So it's our local ordinance that lays out specifications for who can and possibly who cannot serve.

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So do you have those handy?

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I do.

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to.

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Sorry, I grabbed the one that was for the public hearing and.

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It's okay. It can, you can follow up later, even. It's not critical to my decision tonight. I'm just curious.

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It tracks the current resolution very closely. So I think it's, I don't think any of the requirements were changed.

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And

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it tracks the general boards and commissions section of the code as well, as far as who's appointed.

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Do you got the 11 members, vacancies, filling up appointments, all of those are tracked into the general one?

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Okay. Right.

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Thanks. I was curious if there were additional parameters for this specific board.

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But like I said, that can be follow up at another time, just my own curiosity because I can't remember.

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At one time, I thought members of that board needed to be property owners within this district.

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But that sounds like that's not true anymore.

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I think there was some tie to a business that's located in the-

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A tie to a business.

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Not necessarily that property owner.

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I can confirm that.

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Okay, thank you.

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Yes, please.

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I'm just curious, Dawn.

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First of all, as you know, I work downtown.

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My full-time job is downtown.

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And so I appreciate the activities of this mid,

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the safety and security.

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I've worked downtown for a very long time.

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So I have appreciated these safe and clean activities

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for quite some time. I just want to clarify, I'm just curious, it's not a commentary.

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Last year when we changed the security piece to the Kansas City, Kansas Police Department,

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I thought I remembered that that was going to be an off-duty officer. Is that correct?

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that? This is their regular shift. We did our trial using an off-duty officer, so...

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From July through December, we did it with an off-duty officer to see how it went and that was our test. We thought the test was successful, so we pay for an officer. So, um, we have him from 12 until 8. 12 to 8 just changed names. We just got a new one. Um, and I can't remember his name. He just started about a month ago. But we have that officer dedicated.

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indicated from 12 to 8 and then we have officer Medina in the morning from her morning shift. I think 7 30 until about 2 and so it actually has increased our coverage in that Simmons was ending their day around 5 so we get 3 additional hours and our board is going to look at also can we stretch that out to get a little bit more nighttime hours or do we get a second police officer so we'll be doing some end of the year evaluation.

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The officer, while they're on duty for the smid, are they in a car, are they on food?

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Both. We actually, the off detective, Captain, I'm sorry I forgot his right, but Steven

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Smith and the officer dedicated two officers come to our monthly meetings every month and

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and they give us a spreadsheet of statistics.

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And so what was your question again?

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Are they all foot?

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Are they in a car?

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So we also get part of their statistics.

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We get their on foot hours and their car hours.

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They also track that.

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And so the apportion of the smid dollars

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are paying for two, one and a half.

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for one officer officer Medina is paid for through city hall I see but the officer in the afternoon we pay for okay, and

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So that's separate from our PD budget. Yeah, like totally separate away

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Okay, all right, that's it. Thank you

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Commissioner come

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Like you may have come to it large. I'll start by saying I'm not against this mid as a voluntarily enter into tax

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It's a lot of controls around

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and create an attack on commercial properties and businesses and whether or not it can

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be dissolved.

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I do have a couple of questions, though, looking at the statement of activity, and maybe

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this is for staff or commissioners who have been here longer than I have, how do we land

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on the UG share of contribution to the SMID?

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And is that something that we had discussed yearly or I'm just I'm just curious the process.

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Commissioner Biden, do you want to answer it?

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I only want to speak to my knowledge of it.

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Unified government own downtown.

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Gosh, I counted on just off the top of my head a week or so ago.

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It's eight to ten buildings.

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And so it's almost a payment in lieu of tax type of example, but it is voluntary.

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It's a modest amount based on what a building like the one we're sitting in might pay if

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it were on the tax roll.

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And some years we've not paid it because we were in difficult economic times and we

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simply could not make a voluntary contribution.

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So, when you see that, it's voluntary, but again, UG owns, you know, fire headquarters,

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police headquarters, on and on and on, this building, the health department, the courthouse.

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This is on the building, so yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Thanks.

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That leads me to my next question.

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With the new campus downtown, has the community college been approached about maybe doing something

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similar?

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I believe that the KCK community college has their own police force.

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I'm a trustee at Johnson County Community College, and we have our own actual police on campus.

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I will follow up and find out what the relationship is and confirm that.

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Mr. Tom Williams.

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Commissioner, I did have that question too.

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We took a little tour of the building.

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I was surprised to find out that it's a condominium type of arrangement.

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So the eventual you've got partners. So you've got the swap health is in there.

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Community America is in there and the college is in there.

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So whatever voluntary payment that would be they probably have to calculate it based on square footage and the usage and the percentage of who's in there and that type of thing.

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So it's a little bit more complicated than just measuring the building because they've got three partners that would have to

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work that out. Sure.

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I misunderstood the question.

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All right. Thank you.

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So is the payment based on square footage of a building to the Schmidt or is the payment voluntary and they can decide they don't want to?

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I'm not sure that they have committed yet to actually making the payment, but however they're going to have to do it. It's a partnership of public and private entities that they'll have to figure out amongst the three of them how they're going to bring that out.

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Okay.

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But I don't think they committed quite yet, but when I asked when I posed that question, they said, well, they're going to have to make a calculation.

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But they didn't commit to anything.

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But does the Schmidt have its own formula?

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Why do they?

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Yeah, it's property by property and it's calculated through the UG.

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It's a mill levy and the mill levy is badly calculated off of your assessment value.

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Okay, Commissioner Pacheco.

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Thank you, Mayor Pacheco, District 5, Mr. Conway.

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Question for me is, can you just explain one more time perhaps for the public?

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Because I think it's very important, the mechanism of the tax that is imposed here.

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What, who does it affect, how does it work?

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It's ad-blorm property tax on the property and so the intent is not to sweep in residential

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properties within the district, it's just commercial entities.

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You do have the ones that are tax exempt for whatever reason and that's where that gets

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into the voluntary contribution.

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I do know that GSA has the federal courthouse and some of those properties and they have said that because of the federal budget, they cannot contribute.

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So that's a kind of off the table.

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But I think that's the intent is that commercial would have the extra property tax line added to their tax bill residential would be excluded.

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And what is the mechanism in which the property owners who do pay into it, who don't have to do so voluntarily, what is the mechanism by which they vote and say a majority of us want to continue doing this?

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For the ones that pay voluntarily, I don't know, like for instance, there was an agreement

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made with BPU prior to me arriving and so they just on an annual basis our accountant

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reaches out to them and they send in a payment and it's based off of the amount that they

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decided.

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If it's voluntary, we don't, I can check out, go get the history of that and find out

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how they decided it and see if anybody's around to.

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Do you know how the non-voluntary members, like folks who pay into it, what's that process?

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Well, at Valorant Taxes are typically calculated off of your assessed property value and there's

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a formula that you take your overall property value, multiply it by a factor like 0.11, I'm

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Johnson counties and then you calculate it off and then you multiply it by your new levy and

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that shoots out the number that they pay. So it's assessed property value from my knowledge.

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Yeah and what I'm really thank you for that and what I'm trying to understand is

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who is the voting body or who gets all these people rounded up and says hey let's vote on if we want

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to continue taxing ourselves. Like how does that go about? That's what I'm trying to understand the

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You're the governing body who decides that perhaps I'm misunderstanding I'm just trying to understand like

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Do the business owners or the property owners have a meeting of some sort in which they get together and say hey

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We want to continue doing this and they like at minimum like express an interest to the smith or that's all I'm just trying to understand

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It is a process inception that was done at the inception in

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2008 2009, okay, and so then those same

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businesses, slash property owners are then approached again in 2016 they were

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approached again for the technical. Okay, but that's how it usually goes.

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01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:46,880
I'm just trying to understand the mechanism. That's the one thing that I've never

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completely understood. Surveys are sent out and you know surveys which

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you are codes were sent out. We also sent surveys out in Spanish.

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01:09:58,700 --> 01:10:08,920
Yeah, and all of us to say that, you know, most of the correspondence that I've received in regard to this has been in favor of it from most of the businesses, both large and small.

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01:10:09,140 --> 01:10:12,020
So I'm really just, I'm just trying to understand the mechanism more than anything.

934
01:10:12,020 --> 01:10:27,920
So, the only other thing that I would say for sure, Mr. Conway, you would say then otherwise this is not a property tax, even though this is a taxing entity of sorts, if this is not one that affects the taxpayer at large.

935
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:43,860
It is squarely imposed on those property owners within that district who have expressed in a majority fashion their desire to continue with the tax. Is that correct?

936
01:10:47,000 --> 01:11:10,440
Yeah, and directly so the smid gauges support throughout its lifetime and tries to to maintain that contact and and continue to support and it takes all kinds of different forms, yeah, very good.

937
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:11,440
Thank you.

938
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,580
And then the only other comment I'll make, Mayor, and then I'm done is I think Mr.

939
01:11:16,180 --> 01:11:19,400
Tand pointed to the fact that we really need to try to come up with a master plan and work

940
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,260
in tandem with downtown shareholders, Smith, the unified government.

941
01:11:23,300 --> 01:11:28,420
I think in order for this to really get legs and actually for us to make the most out of it, we actually need

942
01:11:28,420 --> 01:11:35,080
to come up with a really robust master plan to we have, we're building the base here.

943
01:11:35,140 --> 01:11:35,800
We're doing the basics.

944
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:42,900
We're cleaning, you know, we're keeping things safe, you know, just like your pyramid alludes to, but then what are we doing those things upon?

945
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,440
What is the actual plan on which we are trying to make them happen?

946
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:52,180
So I think then, you know, our voluntary payment in lieu, whatever we want to call it as unified government.

947
01:11:52,580 --> 01:12:03,320
Some of that perhaps we could use towards saying like, hey, this is some of this money perhaps goes towards some sort of feasibility or some sort of master plan planning of some sort.

948
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,400
or just something that, honestly, I'm just kind of riffing here,

949
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:08,700
but I think we need to maybe make it a little bit more robust

950
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:10,840
of a situation in which we're working in tandem

951
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,460
with these organizations as well.

952
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,920
Thank you, appreciate it.

953
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,040
Thank you.

954
01:12:16,540 --> 01:12:17,740
OK, Commissioner Hill.

955
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,520
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

956
01:12:23,980 --> 01:12:28,100
Thank you, Ms. Don and Mr. Burge for your comments.

957
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,920
I am a long time down to, I consider myself

958
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:43,860
of a downtown resident. And I have worked downtown for many years. And I remember the inception

959
01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:51,400
of the downtown shareholders and the SNED. And so I have seen the difference from before

960
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:57,440
we had them and where we have them now. I certainly appreciate the information we received,

961
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:08,300
concern the data of how many arrests, police, engagements, trash, all that that is distributed to

962
01:13:08,300 --> 01:13:16,080
the commissioner. So I certainly appreciate that information and I'm glad you're on deck. I

963
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:24,520
really appreciate the comment that Mr. Birch made. He said don't give up on downtown KCK and that's

964
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:33,760
That's one of the things that to ride down there week after week, day after day, year after year, it gets pretty discouraging.

965
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:46,480
And to hear tonight that there's some real possibilities again that we're going to get some things accomplished downtown is very, very exciting to me.

966
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:51,220
I'm looking forward to the red and somebody saying something that the red and

967
01:13:51,220 --> 01:13:58,720
center is going to do something positive. I'm looking forward to actually seeing

968
01:13:59,910 --> 01:14:07,800
the brotherhood building occupied the UNB bank building done the library. I mean it's going

969
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:16,460
to change everything if we can wait to see it actually happen. I hope I'm still alive.

970
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:25,420
but it is exciting just to hear that there are plans again for downtown KCK. I'm

971
01:14:25,420 --> 01:14:32,640
excited about the grocery store that's coming in again so I appreciate what

972
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:40,540
you all have done down through the years and in the midst of things looking so

973
01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:47,360
bleak, so unattractive. We still have that rail hope. We've got to keep the light on.

974
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,400
That's what I don't even like Motel 8 or whatever it is, but it said we'll keep the light

975
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:58,800
on for you. So I don't like them, but I like the light, the light part is what I like.

976
01:14:59,160 --> 01:14:59,920
So thank you.

977
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,380
So much for what you have done. And please hang in there and let's, let's make downtown beautiful. We can do this. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Hill. Commissioner Davis.

978
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:31,060
Thank you. I think council is going to answer this question. So it may be, it'll be good for kind of everybody to hear this. I thought and I could be wrong that there was a vote that was going to take place for the area of property owners. Am I not understanding that?

979
01:15:31,060 --> 01:15:36,580
that correctly. It's never going to be a vote to renew. It was always going to be kind

980
01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:39,300
of our decision of whether or not this would continue.

981
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,180
Commissioner, the statute has kind of a two-pronged approach. So there's two different ways.

982
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:53,540
The commission itself can establish or there can be a petition circulated that I think

983
01:15:53,540 --> 01:16:01,700
That's what you're thinking about, and so I'm not sure what they did the first time

984
01:16:01,700 --> 01:16:07,620
around, but the second time the existing iteration was not a petition.

985
01:16:07,820 --> 01:16:14,500
It was the commission directly did that, and so I think they're saying this particular

986
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:16,800
application is the same route.

987
01:16:16,940 --> 01:16:18,560
It would be directly through the commission.

988
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,560
Gotcha.

989
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:19,840
Gotcha.

990
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,920
I think Council may have some additional information.

991
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:37,920
Yes, I was looking at the statute and it allows that and because there's normally we adopt the resolution or the ordinance, the day of the public hearing and you'll notice that there is a 30 day delay until you do that.

992
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:48,540
If during that time you receive a petition with at least 40% of all owners of property in the proposed districts, then it would be withdrawn.

993
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:54,400
So there is a mechanism for the property owners to protest this measure.

994
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,920
Gotcha. Gotcha. That was kind of my question.

995
01:16:57,020 --> 01:17:01,680
How do we make sure that we're just not necessarily imposing this,

996
01:17:01,820 --> 01:17:06,900
but that there is some buy-in even beyond the appointments that we make.

997
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:08,860
I forgot who it was.

998
01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:14,100
Might have been Commissioner comp that was talking about the kind of payment that we make

999
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:16,920
in Commissioner Biden about how much property we own.

1000
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:24,920
I think one of the challenging parts about downtown is that so much of the property is owned by tax exempt entities

1001
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,380
and so

1002
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:34,100
there I do think there needs to be a larger discussion beyond the BPU beyond the UG beyond the health systems

1003
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:41,380
The college should definitely be a part of it, but I actually think for a nonprofit folks many of them who own a property here

1004
01:17:41,380 --> 01:17:48,120
and for other tax exempt folks how do we get them to pitch in because that is applying a lot of

1005
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:56,400
pressure on the very few who are not tax exempts. And it's been going on for so long and I think

1006
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,620
the numbers have made it pretty obvious that we need more folks to pitch in in some way shape or form

1007
01:18:02,620 --> 01:18:10,880
so that it's not just on the few that choose to voluntarily do the work.

1008
01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:16,820
I am a huge, huge fan of us investing in our downtown.

1009
01:18:17,260 --> 01:18:29,280
I don't think you can point to a thriving city in this country that we would, you know, aspire to be like and say their downtown does not have vibrancy or doesn't have many of the things.

1010
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:36,820
that you said we should aspire for. I do have a question. You all did receive a grant from

1011
01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:44,680
Kaufman. Do I? Okay. And that was just for extra FTE. Yes. It was through what? Oh, through

1012
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:50,280
down town shareholder. So it wasn't through this made. Can you just speak to those efforts and kind

1013
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:56,530
of what that has resulted in because this made a DTS work so closely together? Yeah. The Schmid is

1014
01:18:56,530 --> 01:19:03,430
given us the Kaufman foundation grant has given us extra capacity for staffing.

1015
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:07,570
We're also using that money to help us figure out fund development.

1016
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:11,990
From the DTS side, we need to learn how to fundraise.

1017
01:19:12,110 --> 01:19:15,690
A lot of the money that we got comes, we get memberships,

1018
01:19:16,210 --> 01:19:21,150
a few thousand dollars from memberships and grants that I apply for.

1019
01:19:21,150 --> 01:19:30,210
And so, we need an ongoing way to stabilize the DTS budget so that it is not dependent upon

1020
01:19:30,210 --> 01:19:32,130
how many grants you got this year or not.

1021
01:19:32,690 --> 01:19:35,750
And so, you know, are there big funders out there?

1022
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:42,770
There are specific funders that have streams of interest and some of its community development,

1023
01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:48,150
sometimes it's, you know, health and wellness, sometimes it's, you know, kids or something.

1024
01:19:48,150 --> 01:20:03,270
So looking to find those funders who will want to invest in downtown, the other part is in just development of our board and again more capacity, more development, more engagement.

1025
01:20:03,970 --> 01:20:05,750
And so it's called a capacity fund.

1026
01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:09,530
So to give our organization strength in our organization.

1027
01:20:09,530 --> 01:20:14,910
Yeah, and that's that's great because I imagine again with those two kind of working very closely together

1028
01:20:14,910 --> 01:20:22,330
It's very hard for one to succeed and for the other one not and a lot of entities particularly right government

1029
01:20:22,330 --> 01:20:30,090
What's really hard to get dollars in will have a nonprofit arm or at least an association of some sort to make that fun raising

1030
01:20:30,090 --> 01:20:32,130
A easier and so yeah

1031
01:20:32,130 --> 01:20:39,190
I'm I am in support of us continuing to make the investments and for us to continue the

1032
01:20:39,190 --> 01:20:44,650
momentum, I think we made a pretty sizable investment in United Market, right?

1033
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:49,790
The former Merck site and we've had to do a lot of subsidizing to get things going.

1034
01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:54,270
I would love for us to get to a point where we do not have to or for us to lower that

1035
01:20:54,270 --> 01:20:58,650
amount so that we can see downtown really take off and really thrive.

1036
01:20:58,950 --> 01:21:04,490
So thank you for your work and I look forward to the continued success and I'm glad there's

1037
01:21:04,490 --> 01:21:06,710
some direction with the brotherhood,

1038
01:21:06,810 --> 01:21:10,690
making what the future of that facility will be.

1039
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:11,230
So thank you.

1040
01:21:11,470 --> 01:21:11,850
Thank you.

1041
01:21:13,700 --> 01:21:14,540
Thank you.

1042
01:21:14,780 --> 01:21:15,400
Commissioner Howard.

1043
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:17,660
Howard District one.

1044
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,520
Thank you all for that presentation.

1045
01:21:19,780 --> 01:21:21,320
If we could, could we go to the slide

1046
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,620
with the pictures on it?

1047
01:21:23,020 --> 01:21:25,700
Well, yep, there it is.

1048
01:21:33,660 --> 01:21:34,880
Yep, that's it.

1049
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,480
What?

1050
01:21:37,700 --> 01:21:39,340
Can you go back, yeah, you know?

1051
01:21:42,230 --> 01:21:42,330
Okay.

1052
01:21:42,330 --> 01:21:45,570
But this is the fun part for me.

1053
01:21:45,850 --> 01:21:48,370
I appreciate all that you are doing

1054
01:21:48,370 --> 01:21:50,690
and my colleagues already echoed that.

1055
01:21:50,910 --> 01:21:55,910
But you all have something really good going on here

1056
01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:59,190
with the youth component to the downtown shareholders.

1057
01:21:59,410 --> 01:22:01,030
Can you just talk to me a little bit about that?

1058
01:22:01,870 --> 01:22:03,030
I would love to.

1059
01:22:03,710 --> 01:22:07,810
So through Pro-AXO, the intern on the right

1060
01:22:07,810 --> 01:22:33,110
with two commissioners was Alexa through Pro-X. Pro-X actually pays the interns, and she was an 11th grader from Johnson County, and I gave her some more high-intensity projects to work on, and then the group pictured in the middle with you and Commissioner Bynum, where nine interns from a BPU grant that we received.

1061
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:37,350
And so it was seven weeks with these youngsters.

1062
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:41,170
We did, they wrote business plans,

1063
01:22:41,950 --> 01:22:44,610
gave from the toolbox, showed them how to write a business plan.

1064
01:22:45,130 --> 01:22:48,650
They got into small groups, and they wrote business plans for businesses downtown.

1065
01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:54,030
They had resume writing, and then they did mock interviews.

1066
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:59,890
They walked pretty much at least once or twice a week to launch and other places.

1067
01:22:59,890 --> 01:23:02,950
And so they just got to learn the city on foot.

1068
01:23:03,190 --> 01:23:05,130
They spent a whole day with the fire department.

1069
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:07,010
They spent a day with you.

1070
01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:08,810
They met the mayor a couple of times.

1071
01:23:09,210 --> 01:23:11,950
They even talked to Mrs. McFedder's about public relations.

1072
01:23:13,250 --> 01:23:16,170
We had a career day for them.

1073
01:23:16,670 --> 01:23:19,810
And we just had a lot of projects where we had them kind

1074
01:23:19,810 --> 01:23:23,190
of imagine give us feedback on what would you like

1075
01:23:23,190 --> 01:23:24,050
to see in downtown.

1076
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:28,070
Another initiative that I am just starting to work on

1077
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:31,650
is I've reached out to Sumner Academy and Wyandotte.

1078
01:23:32,130 --> 01:23:34,050
I plan also reach out to Bishop Ward.

1079
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:37,790
I like to almost create like a little youth coalition

1080
01:23:38,530 --> 01:23:39,570
of students.

1081
01:23:40,350 --> 01:23:43,330
And really my whole goal is I want to remember

1082
01:23:43,650 --> 01:23:45,310
the time they worked on downtown,

1083
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:46,970
the time they had a Sumner downtown,

1084
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:49,990
the time they did a project downtown.

1085
01:23:50,730 --> 01:23:51,910
And then in 10 years,

1086
01:23:52,210 --> 01:23:55,190
these are the people who come back and want to be a commissioner

1087
01:23:55,790 --> 01:23:59,050
and they see people who look like them, who are commissioners, or the mayor.

1088
01:23:59,650 --> 01:24:04,450
These are people who want to own businesses, who want to live down here when we have all these cool condos.

1089
01:24:05,390 --> 01:24:10,770
And so I actually was talking with someone from USD 500 and they said there's a program called Diploma Plus.

1090
01:24:11,570 --> 01:24:17,730
And where if I grab those, if I can get those students, they actually get like a capstone credit for that as well.

1091
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:19,210
So that's my next step.

1092
01:24:19,390 --> 01:24:24,410
I just emailed the principals and the counselors and it was right at the beginning of the year.

1093
01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:28,870
So I'm slowly getting some responses back, but I'm leaning towards getting a little diploma plus

1094
01:24:29,450 --> 01:24:34,890
Group together to really help us imagine the future because they are the ones we're gonna hear it from us

1095
01:24:36,110 --> 01:24:41,530
Thank you. Yeah, and the last thing is I think it's important exposure is important

1096
01:24:41,530 --> 01:24:44,010
And we always talk about you can't be what you can't see

1097
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:48,550
And so you and I are both from district one in north eastern area, right? And so

1098
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,970
For you to have that component to the downtown sharehold is to have more of a pipeline

1099
01:24:54,410 --> 01:25:01,150
right to create that pipeline for and one of the one of the main questions that I was asked when I was you know running for office was

1100
01:25:01,150 --> 01:25:10,410
What are you going to do to track young folk right in this you you are providing that pipeline for them allowing them to be able to express their creativity

1101
01:25:10,410 --> 01:25:17,170
allowing them to be able to see the city exposing them to civic engagement. So I think that's very important. And so

1102
01:25:17,810 --> 01:25:21,030
If you all continue all if you all continue on that path

1103
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:25,110
I believe you are already on the path of success, so thank you.

1104
01:25:25,450 --> 01:25:26,190
Thank you.

1105
01:25:26,890 --> 01:25:29,110
Thank you, Commissioner Stites.

1106
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,320
Stites District 7.

1107
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:39,980
Along the lines with what Commissioner Davis was saying about the other non-profits,

1108
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:47,020
the community college, I'm not sure that I might understand how the 128 were the largest contributor.

1109
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:53,200
I guess if it's square footage or but you have BPU at 17.5 and you got the KU Health System

1110
01:25:53,200 --> 01:26:01,280
in the 26, where is the KU health system within that district?

1111
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,640
They're actually outside of the district.

1112
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,940
But yet they're making a contribution, right?

1113
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,260
So I think that's very important.

1114
01:26:09,340 --> 01:26:10,920
I knew the answer and I wasn't trying to trick you.

1115
01:26:10,980 --> 01:26:11,860
I knew that, right?

1116
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:17,500
But I mean, I think that just goes to show what we are,

1117
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,680
what good partners look like, right?

1118
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:35,660
So when we're talking about other deals that are made, whether it be out west, and we're looking for how they can contribute into our downtown when we, when we, oh, yeah.

1119
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:45,560
So there's ways that we might be able to, you know, there's, you know, other economic development deals that are occurring out west. Well, here's ways that we can do it.

1120
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:52,560
I will tell you a little disappointed that the Community College hasn't stepped up since they bought that property for $10.

1121
01:26:53,660 --> 01:26:57,700
I would think that that would be something that they would like to step up.

1122
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:06,060
I'm hoping that before we see this again in October, that there's been movement on that.

1123
01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:15,220
Yeah, I, um, you may know that Dr. Mosher was our previous, um, chair of the Schmidt Board.

1124
01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:20,360
The college experienced a bit of turbulence in even finding their next president.

1125
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,500
And I asked a couple of times that they had even selected a site director.

1126
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,060
And a few months ago they had not.

1127
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:33,500
I'm pretty sure now that the college is open that they have, and I'll reach out to that site director.

1128
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:48,040
I actually have reached out to Swope to ask and just give them a overview of what we do and so once I find out who the site director is for the downtown site, I'll get a meeting with him or her.

1129
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:57,120
Okay. Well, I think that there's opportunities with other development that's occurring in our in our community.

1130
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:07,080
And I've always supported, and I think that it's imperative that we do bring development to all four corners of our community.

1131
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:15,800
I think it's not just out west, although we hear that quite a bit, it's just out west, I'm an advocate for downtown, right?

1132
01:28:15,940 --> 01:28:19,120
Whether, I mean, whatever side you are on with the Reardon Center, right?

1133
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:25,860
I wanted to see something happen, and I hope that there is, I hope with the brotherhood building there is something that happens.

1134
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:40,520
I would imagine that maybe somebody like the Kansas City Chiefs could absorb this whole amount, right, and make this go away, right, and take it off of the taxpayers, that own businesses down there.

1135
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:51,360
So there's a lot of different things. I just think it's a matter of how we craft our development agreements, what we asked for in civic contributions.

1136
01:28:53,100 --> 01:29:05,020
So it just bothers me to be honest with you that we are, I don't know what that is, five times larger than somebody that's not even in our air that is not even in the district.

1137
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:16,880
KU Health System, right? I appreciate it. I really do. I'm glad. But I'm hoping that there's some of the other non-profits will be contacted and how we look at them if they're not.

1138
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:22,800
I don't know if, for instance, I'm not sure why deck, where are they at in this?

1139
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:33,760
I don't know if Y deck is a nonprofit or not, not sure, but I would think that Y deck, I don't know if they pay property taxes, but they would also be one that I feel like should be contributing.

1140
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,060
If they're not, I'm not saying the nuts, I don't know.

1141
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:37,560
They're not.

1142
01:29:38,060 --> 01:29:38,940
Okay, well, they're not.

1143
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:41,200
So I would think YDEC would need to be contributing.

1144
01:29:41,620 --> 01:29:48,320
I think there's a lot of entities that reap the rewards of what's being done down there

1145
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,320
and the potential good things that are coming and not contributing.

1146
01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:54,040
And I think that needs to be rectified.

1147
01:29:54,340 --> 01:29:54,800
Thank you.

1148
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:55,700
Thank you.

1149
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:13,840
Thank you, Commissioner Stads. Appreciate that. Commissioner Burns. Mayor, are you ready for a motion to approve? There there's no need for a motion. This was an information only I believe we vote next time.

1150
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:32,630
I know that. Correct clerk. Alrighty. I think that was Commissioner Burns way of saying this ends this session. So. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

1151
01:30:32,630 --> 01:30:39,230
job well done job well done all right we have four items scheduled under our

1152
01:30:39,230 --> 01:30:46,430
administrators agenda this evening the first item item number 11.1 is adoption

1153
01:30:46,430 --> 01:30:52,370
of a resolution extending the current state of emergency I will turn the

1154
01:30:52,370 --> 01:30:57,510
matter over to our interim kind of administrator Mr. Allen House for opening

1155
01:30:57,510 --> 01:31:02,310
remarks and introduction of staff thank you mayor so we have

1156
01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:10,170
before you an extension. This was came last week for the emergency declaration, the local emergency declaration.

1157
01:31:11,410 --> 01:31:19,190
We have since last week gotten additional information that the can be extended more than one week at a time.

1158
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:27,470
So we have also learned this evening that the state is extending their emergency declaration to October the 4th.

1159
01:31:27,470 --> 01:31:29,710
So we will be looking to extend our emergency declaration

1160
01:31:29,710 --> 01:31:32,250
to believe October 15th,

1161
01:31:32,250 --> 01:31:34,170
so it'll be after the state one,

1162
01:31:34,810 --> 01:31:37,150
and that'll come side with a commission meeting.

1163
01:31:37,370 --> 01:31:39,870
Should we need to take further action at that time?

1164
01:31:40,290 --> 01:31:45,270
So I'll ask, we have interim assistant County Administrator

1165
01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:47,230
Casey Meyer and Director of Emergency Management

1166
01:31:47,230 --> 01:31:50,710
Jennifer Tarwater, if they want to add anything to that

1167
01:31:50,710 --> 01:31:54,210
or any additional information related to the storm recovery.

1168
01:31:54,210 --> 01:32:09,030
Good evening. Madam Mayor and commissioners. So this is in to extend. So as Alan was speaking about we learned today that the state is extending their state declaration through October 4th.

1169
01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:23,350
And so we are asking for our local resolution or declaration to be through October 15 and I know there was some confusion today or here recently because the state of Missouri and Kansas received a presidential proclamation.

1170
01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:28,810
And that was for a previous storm, so that is not related to this storm system at all.

1171
01:32:29,410 --> 01:32:31,230
So I know that can cause a bit of confusion.

1172
01:32:31,950 --> 01:32:36,870
And so in the last couple of days, we have had, as far as where we're at with progress

1173
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:41,290
towards getting our presidential declaration for our public assistance.

1174
01:32:41,950 --> 01:32:48,370
That is, we've had K-DEM come down and they are doing assessments again to see where we're

1175
01:32:48,370 --> 01:32:51,790
at with getting that reimbursement for the debris removal.

1176
01:32:51,790 --> 01:32:55,830
damage to critical infrastructure and emergency protective measures.

1177
01:32:56,410 --> 01:33:00,610
So they came and looked at the damage done to our fire station, they looked at the debris

1178
01:33:00,610 --> 01:33:01,250
piles.

1179
01:33:01,690 --> 01:33:07,770
Today, we're averaging about between two and three thousand cubic yards of debris that

1180
01:33:07,770 --> 01:33:09,550
is being hauled away every day.

1181
01:33:10,330 --> 01:33:15,610
They give me a report every night, but last I checked it was about more than 25,000 cubic

1182
01:33:15,610 --> 01:33:16,570
yards of debris.

1183
01:33:16,570 --> 01:33:26,010
And we know that as they make that pass, we're still seeing a lot of debris in people's yards, a lot of trees that still need to be cut down and hauled to the curb.

1184
01:33:26,710 --> 01:33:33,250
And we are working and coordinating with chainsaw crews from across the country that are coming in, these are volunteers.

1185
01:33:33,790 --> 01:33:38,970
And they are still out there every day cutting trees down, hauling them to the curb.

1186
01:33:38,970 --> 01:33:45,810
We have some that have been here for two weeks at this point and their deployment is ending and they're going home.

1187
01:33:46,030 --> 01:33:49,710
Some of them are resting and then we'll come back later to help us out.

1188
01:33:50,130 --> 01:33:51,810
And then we have some new ones coming on board.

1189
01:33:52,370 --> 01:33:57,190
So just a great overwhelming experience with having these professional soyares in.

1190
01:33:57,650 --> 01:33:59,990
We did have two injuries that were sustained.

1191
01:34:00,790 --> 01:34:04,270
And so we're trying to make sure that these trees are very dangerous.

1192
01:34:04,270 --> 01:34:08,870
and so we have trained volunteers that are coming in to take care of those.

1193
01:34:09,650 --> 01:34:15,770
I also know there's still some confusion about with the FEMA assistance that's available.

1194
01:34:16,530 --> 01:34:19,090
And so FEMA has two different kinds of assistance.

1195
01:34:19,690 --> 01:34:24,430
And it doesn't, the name can be very confusing, so there's what's called public assistance.

1196
01:34:24,810 --> 01:34:29,110
Excuse me. Is this all well to the emergency extension? Are you just giving us an update?

1197
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:35,810
I'm just giving you what you're on are you doing okay do you yeah anybody have any questions or do you want

1198
01:34:35,810 --> 01:34:40,270
Is it I think the commission board has some questions sure commissioner

1199
01:34:41,470 --> 01:34:46,170
Okay, you took it off question. I thought you were calling me sir. Uh, Commissioner sites sites district seven

1200
01:34:46,170 --> 01:34:46,850
um

1201
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:54,110
Did you mean to say or did I hear wrong did you say that you're extending it through October 15th or September 15

1202
01:34:56,370 --> 01:34:58,490
because I was thinking that when we did it last week.

1203
01:34:58,490 --> 01:35:00,430
It's an extension through October.

1204
01:35:00,730 --> 01:35:04,630
So I thought that when we talked about this last week that it was every,

1205
01:35:04,870 --> 01:35:07,010
we talked because we said it's about every week.

1206
01:35:07,050 --> 01:35:08,810
I think it was Commissioner Bynum that said it.

1207
01:35:08,810 --> 01:35:10,470
Right, so Commissioner Sites, that's my fault.

1208
01:35:11,070 --> 01:35:16,270
So when I first interpreted the statute, I was being overly cautious because of the language in the statute.

1209
01:35:16,530 --> 01:35:22,290
The initial term has to be seven days, but with commission approval then you can extend it past seven days.

1210
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:25,210
And despite me loving to see you guys every seven days,

1211
01:35:25,210 --> 01:35:30,850
I understand that there's a desire to try to push that out because we don't have commission meeting set up and so

1212
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:34,910
based off of the state being able to extend theirs through

1213
01:35:35,930 --> 01:35:39,690
October the 4th we would like to extend ours to

1214
01:35:39,690 --> 01:35:49,290
October 15th, which gives us an opportunity to review the progress we've made and I appreciate that I just wanted to make sure that I was tracking what you said

1215
01:35:49,290 --> 01:35:51,630
Starts motion to approve as submitted. Second.

1216
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,200
Okay. They'll pay you. You had your you don't need you just want a second

1217
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:01,540
Davis do you have a question before the vote goes otherwise we're ready to vote? Yeah, just real quick

1218
01:36:01,540 --> 01:36:04,140
I know I miss her already you had a lot to offer

1219
01:36:04,140 --> 01:36:08,780
I know we also have a lot to go through so if you could put that in a memo or email or something

1220
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:13,240
greatly greatly appreciate yes and we are working on an executive report now

1221
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:18,660
To get that all to you with a summation of what has happened from the beginning to where we're at now

1222
01:36:19,620 --> 01:36:21,480
and when should we expect to see that?

1223
01:36:21,940 --> 01:36:23,120
That will be next week.

1224
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,140
Next week? Can we get it Friday?

1225
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,040
What is it?

1226
01:36:27,180 --> 01:36:27,760
That's Friday.

1227
01:36:28,340 --> 01:36:28,680
Dang.

1228
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,060
Okay, next week, what day?

1229
01:36:32,860 --> 01:36:34,300
I will try my best.

1230
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:35,820
What day next week?

1231
01:36:37,670 --> 01:36:39,090
Okay, Monday is a whole day.

1232
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:40,490
Let's get with Wednesday.

1233
01:36:41,130 --> 01:36:41,210
Wednesday.

1234
01:36:41,570 --> 01:36:41,770
All right.

1235
01:36:42,010 --> 01:36:42,230
Wednesday.

1236
01:36:43,450 --> 01:36:44,010
All right.

1237
01:36:44,130 --> 01:36:47,850
It's been moved by states and second.

1238
01:36:47,850 --> 01:36:54,850
by Lopez, roll call please. Mayor before we have roll call, can we specify the motion does include to October 15th?

1239
01:36:55,770 --> 01:36:58,850
Yes, the motion does include until October 15th.

1240
01:36:59,490 --> 01:37:08,130
Roll call please. Mayor, that's correct. I'll make it to October 15th and then I believe that Commissioner Lopez has a question before we go.

1241
01:37:10,630 --> 01:37:12,230
Okay, make sure Lopez.

1242
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,100
Madam Mayor, thank you so much.

1243
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:17,060
Yes, so we'll go.

1244
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:28,160
I just had a quick question on what are what is Kansas City, Missouri emergency response

1245
01:37:28,750 --> 01:37:34,060
apartment doing that we're not doing or what are we doing that they're not doing or are

1246
01:37:34,060 --> 01:37:42,540
we as everything as far as what the president when you said that from money that was coming

1247
01:37:42,540 --> 01:37:44,120
from from the previous storm.

1248
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:55,360
So that is a different storm system, so we could have like our storm system that came through, so the storm that happened October 19th around between 1 and 3 a.m.

1249
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:02,500
We are the only county in the state of Kansas of all 105 counties that experience damage from that storm.

1250
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:10,320
And so this particular declaration should we receive it for the public assistance will just be our county.

1251
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,620
and sometimes they'll do contiguous as well, assuming that there's some slight damage.

1252
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,740
But it can be confusing especially when they overlap because another community could have

1253
01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:25,460
something tomorrow and get a declaration. So this way when they come out you really have to read

1254
01:38:25,460 --> 01:38:31,360
them because it can be confusing, but the one that was just announced that does not pertain to us.

1255
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:34,480
That's a different storm that went through in different areas.

1256
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:38,540
Right. I was thinking that was a little early forest anyway because there's still

1257
01:38:38,540 --> 01:38:44,360
families that we're still trying to yeah I get it. Okay thank you. Okay we're ready for the vote.

1258
01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:50,960
We had a motion from Stites and a second from Locke Pes were October 15th extension.

1259
01:38:51,560 --> 01:39:01,400
Roll call please. Roll call. Ramirez. Aye. Hill. Aye. Pacheco. Aye. Locke Pes. Aye. Stites. Aye. Davis. Aye.

1260
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:01,460
All right.

1261
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:02,160
Fine them.

1262
01:39:02,300 --> 01:39:02,420
Aye.

1263
01:39:02,740 --> 01:39:02,860
Come.

1264
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:03,340
Aye.

1265
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:03,900
Howard.

1266
01:39:04,300 --> 01:39:04,600
Aye.

1267
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:05,220
Burns.

1268
01:39:05,380 --> 01:39:05,480
Aye.

1269
01:39:05,740 --> 01:39:06,580
Voters 10-0.

1270
01:39:06,660 --> 01:39:07,240
Motion carries.

1271
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:08,200
Thank you.

1272
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:09,400
The next item.

1273
01:39:09,580 --> 01:39:15,100
Item number 11.2 seeks approval of voting delegates for the League of Kansas Municipalities conference

1274
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:16,680
in Oberlin Park.

1275
01:39:17,260 --> 01:39:21,640
I will turn the matter over to our interim county administrator, Mr. Allen House, for opening remarks

1276
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:22,760
to introduction the staff.

1277
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:24,900
Thank you, Mayor.

1278
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:30,180
So this would be naming delegates for the annual League of Kansas Municipalities conference.

1279
01:39:30,180 --> 01:39:41,940
commissioner Howard and assistant county administrator Lucas would be the delegate and alternate for that conference and when is that conference I will turn over to Mr. Lucas.

1280
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:51,080
Not a mayor Rodney Lucas assistant county administrator. The annual conference is for October 8 through the 10th in Wichita, Kansas.

1281
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:54,360
We have some misinformation here where says Oakland Park.

1282
01:39:57,180 --> 01:39:57,820
the right.

1283
01:39:58,060 --> 01:39:59,420
It's motion to approve.

1284
01:40:00,260 --> 01:40:00,900
Okay.

1285
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:01,480
It's been.

1286
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,460
It's been moved by the.

1287
01:40:03,540 --> 01:40:04,980
Strides and second by.

1288
01:40:05,900 --> 01:40:06,040
Com.

1289
01:40:06,620 --> 01:40:07,940
I need roll call please.

1290
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:09,080
Roll call.

1291
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:09,780
Ramirez.

1292
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:11,280
Hi.

1293
01:40:11,620 --> 01:40:12,160
Hill.

1294
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:12,600
Hi.

1295
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:13,280
Check.

1296
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,540
I Lopez.

1297
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:15,260
Hi.

1298
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:16,080
Dights.

1299
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:16,440
Hi.

1300
01:40:16,780 --> 01:40:17,040
Hi.

1301
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:17,440
Hi.

1302
01:40:17,780 --> 01:40:18,900
I come.

1303
01:40:19,380 --> 01:40:20,020
Howard.

1304
01:40:20,180 --> 01:40:20,420
Hi.

1305
01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:37,520
Thank you, commissioners and clerk, the next item item number 11 out three is adoption of a resolution authorizing an increase of three additional dollars charged for vehicle registration or renewal for a total of eight dollars.

1306
01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:41,180
I will turn the matter over to our interim County administrator, Mr Allen.

1307
01:40:41,180 --> 01:40:43,240
out of the remarks and introduction staff.

1308
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,180
All right. Thank you, Mayor.

1309
01:40:45,620 --> 01:40:47,700
And I guess if I got to ask our budget director

1310
01:40:47,700 --> 01:40:50,580
to come forward as well and our CFO.

1311
01:40:51,380 --> 01:40:54,420
This is on the agenda.

1312
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,200
This is item the first item.

1313
01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:00,200
It is really part of the budget discussion for this evening

1314
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,300
and hopefully the adoption of the budget.

1315
01:41:02,980 --> 01:41:06,140
This picks up on the discussion that the commission had

1316
01:41:06,140 --> 01:41:09,160
last week and the week before.

1317
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:18,960
So what was asked was that staff come back with some options and so I'm going to thank staff for the work that they did to bring back those options.

1318
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:33,560
We brought back options that were different than what was in the proposed budget and those included options for a flat mill rate for both the city and county and what changes would get us to that flat mill rate.

1319
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:45,320
So we can look at that, those options will start on the county side, and I guess I would ask the clerk if you can bring up the county document here.

1320
01:41:48,010 --> 01:41:48,710
We'll give this a go.

1321
01:41:53,390 --> 01:41:55,470
This is just for the motor vehicle, correct?

1322
01:41:56,770 --> 01:41:59,490
The motor vehicle is in the context of the county budget.

1323
01:41:59,490 --> 01:42:26,830
So the resolution would be for the adoption of the $3 fee for the motor vehicle fee and just for context, I think this has been commissioners have heard this before but for public that maybe tuning in the state of Kansas requires that counties provide DMV services, however, does not provide funding sufficient to cover those services so to the tune of about a million and a half dollars.

1324
01:42:26,830 --> 01:42:32,430
DMV services have been funded through the general fund on the county side, through property taxes.

1325
01:42:33,050 --> 01:42:46,990
So the state legislature has now allowed and authorized for counties to implement a fee, a transaction fee, for DMV services up to the amount of $10 for the cost recovery on those fees.

1326
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:54,850
In the proposed budget, we included a fee up to $8, which would be 100% cost recovery.

1327
01:42:54,850 --> 01:43:00,130
nothing additional above cost recovery be it a full cost recovery under state law

1328
01:43:00,130 --> 01:43:05,450
five dollars of that is allowed administratively to be implemented and

1329
01:43:05,450 --> 01:43:10,370
additionally above five dollars requires approval from the commission so what is

1330
01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:14,970
before you this evening would be the additional three dollars above the

1331
01:43:14,970 --> 01:43:21,270
administrative fee for county DMV services and the reason we bring this forward in

1332
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:39,490
And the context of the budget is that is part of what is in the proposed 2027 budget and should the commission decide they didn't want to go forward with the $3 fee for per transaction, then there would be additional reductions that we need to make in the county budget in order to offset that.

1333
01:43:41,490 --> 01:43:45,570
What is the like surrounding counties? What are they charging?

1334
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:57,940
Shelly can even CFO. So we looked at that as well mayor and actually 88 at the 105 counties throughout the entire state.

1335
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:09,600
Already had implemented the $5 administrative fee. Although really small counties that they only have one location, they can only do $2.50 because it's, they only have one look.

1336
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:17,160
So the rest of the counties are have added an additional $5 and we're only doing $3 because we're

1337
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:24,820
doing $5 administratively, which we already had. So we're adding an additional three which is

1338
01:44:24,820 --> 01:44:29,940
what the resolution is because it requires under this state law requires you all to act on that.

1339
01:44:30,580 --> 01:44:36,880
We have looked at okay so our other counties that already had the five are they going to go up

1340
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:41,800
to get the tin. That's why I'm asking. Yes. So Johnson County said you would, Shawnee,

1341
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:46,100
Wichita, and Lemonworth have already voted to go up the additional full tin.

1342
01:44:47,260 --> 01:44:51,140
Douglas County said an additional three, which would be the same as us.

1343
01:44:51,820 --> 01:44:59,300
And then there's a number of other other entities that are evaluating what the

1344
01:45:00,050 --> 01:45:27,050
What the, um, their vote would be, um, they're having the same discussion at the same time you are. Okay. All right. Um, do we, I don't, do we need a presentation on this? No, Commissioner Pacheco. Thank you, Mayor Pacheco district five. Um, what are the intended, uh, just kind of outcomes or results that we're trying to, um, achieve with the extra $3 primarily within the department.

1345
01:45:28,150 --> 01:45:43,330
So the additional outcomes are primarily to put in place a proper funding strategy so that it is self-funding as opposed to being on the backs of the property taxes, which is how it's currently partly funded.

1346
01:45:43,330 --> 01:45:49,330
So it's to put the right funding structure in place, much like an enterprise fund.

1347
01:45:49,690 --> 01:45:53,370
So a sewer, you pay sewer fees, that's how you pay for your sewer.

1348
01:45:53,690 --> 01:45:58,530
Same thing for this office that we're required to have the fees and fully fund the office.

1349
01:45:59,070 --> 01:46:05,270
But we have a variety of different improvements underway that we believe will enhance services

1350
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:11,710
and will make things better including a new line management system that will help us segment out

1351
01:46:11,710 --> 01:46:17,850
the work a little differently so that people are going coming in for a really short transaction,

1352
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:24,710
get pulled over to a state as a dedicated window. And that was based on the pilot we did at

1353
01:46:24,710 --> 01:46:29,590
Bonner Springs and seeing how successful that was, so we hope that that will be a great addition.

1354
01:46:29,770 --> 01:46:34,870
And then we're looking at other things too that we shared with the AHS committee when we came

1355
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:40,950
into life. So in essence, while taxpayers would be the ones who pay this extra amount,

1356
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:47,090
it would be a very small amount, three extra dollars, and hopefully the

1357
01:46:47,090 --> 01:46:52,330
idea is that we shift it from needing to fund it from the general fund is the

1358
01:46:52,330 --> 01:46:57,590
idea. Yes, and it's actually vehicle owners, now our painness. Sure, exactly.

1359
01:46:58,090 --> 01:47:02,550
As opposed to you all taxpayers. Got it. Yeah, so, okay, very good. Thank you.

1360
01:47:02,610 --> 01:47:06,310
I appreciate that. Daniel and Reggie, have you guys figured if it was a

1361
01:47:06,310 --> 01:47:08,910
$3.25, what additional?

1362
01:47:09,870 --> 01:47:12,230
It's $3.00 the question, how much?

1363
01:47:12,410 --> 01:47:13,690
Which covers the expenses?

1364
01:47:14,670 --> 01:47:15,750
So you know why we have to pull?

1365
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:16,970
And you said that was like one point.

1366
01:47:17,590 --> 01:47:18,510
How much million?

1367
01:47:22,450 --> 01:47:26,470
So the yes, $3.00 is like $387.

1368
01:47:26,790 --> 01:47:28,730
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought I heard you said that.

1369
01:47:28,750 --> 01:47:33,110
So if we went up to initial two for five total more,

1370
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:34,050
it'd be happening.

1371
01:47:34,450 --> 01:47:36,050
It'd be roughly half that.

1372
01:47:36,050 --> 01:47:43,490
And then we had proposed some additions to the D&B that would then add some staffing and

1373
01:47:43,490 --> 01:47:44,170
that type of thing.

1374
01:47:44,350 --> 01:47:48,650
But in hearing the discussion at one of the previous budget workshops, we felt like,

1375
01:47:48,750 --> 01:47:51,230
okay, let's kind of walk before we run.

1376
01:47:52,410 --> 01:47:59,770
And this is proposed a $3 fee because it will achieve the cost recovery and because we also

1377
01:47:59,770 --> 01:48:04,650
know that we are doing some things already with our existing staff, our existing resources

1378
01:48:04,650 --> 01:48:13,010
is to improve things. So that was, you know, what we revised our recommendation to, but we also

1379
01:48:13,010 --> 01:48:18,650
want to point out that this additional $3, not the base $5 that everybody else was charging that

1380
01:48:18,650 --> 01:48:26,570
we were. The $3 is only authorized for two years by the state legislature. So you all, if you voted

1381
01:48:26,570 --> 01:48:32,970
for that tonight, $3 or $5 additional, that's only a two-year window. So we would need to be working with

1382
01:48:32,970 --> 01:48:38,550
our state legislature to extend that so that we don't then create a problem in year three.

1383
01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:46,170
So we felt like that would give us also some footing, if you will, to not put ourselves

1384
01:48:46,170 --> 01:48:50,990
in a really bad position in a few years, should we not be able to get that law changed?

1385
01:48:54,770 --> 01:48:56,410
Thank you, Mayor.

1386
01:48:58,370 --> 01:49:07,630
This is one, I know we hear a lot that we have a lot of fees on everything and across

1387
01:49:07,630 --> 01:49:17,430
our government, but I think this one is going to help because it, as it's been stated,

1388
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:22,790
it'll help make the DMV self-sufficient and that the county budget will

1389
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:29,250
in stop help subsidizing the department. Again, the DMV is a state mandated

1390
01:49:29,250 --> 01:49:35,770
department function that the state does not pay for. They make us pay for it but

1391
01:49:35,770 --> 01:49:42,270
tell us we have to run it. And so I think it is not the best way to do it,

1392
01:49:42,430 --> 01:49:45,710
but if it's a way that we can get it self-sufficient,

1393
01:49:45,710 --> 01:49:56,370
helping us not subsidize it, it helps us have a little bit more wiggle room within the county budget, so I would personally support it. Thank you.

1394
01:49:57,010 --> 01:49:58,290
Thank you, Commissioner Davis.

1395
01:49:58,290 --> 01:50:10,610
Thank you. Just a question. So knowing that this has the potential to go away, we're really talking

1396
01:50:11,290 --> 01:50:18,990
kind of an injection, right, specifically of dollars that could go in. So my thinking is,

1397
01:50:19,170 --> 01:50:28,130
if there's no guarantee that the dollars last, what could we improve within the next two years?

1398
01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:36,110
that folks can say my DMV experience is better because I, you know, paid that fee.

1399
01:50:36,590 --> 01:50:43,250
I guess what I'm trying to get at is I would hate for us to do this and then nothing gets better, but it all gets more expensive.

1400
01:50:43,830 --> 01:50:47,710
I would like for us to say and I think we talked about this earlier on in the budget.

1401
01:50:48,170 --> 01:50:56,550
There's some system, there's some process or something that makes us more efficient and better with our customer service.

1402
01:51:01,050 --> 01:51:07,490
So that's a line management system that I was talking about and we're already in the

1403
01:51:07,490 --> 01:51:12,290
works of putting that in place and it'll go live November 15th.

1404
01:51:12,410 --> 01:51:17,350
So we think with the way that we're going to restructure the way we do the work right

1405
01:51:17,350 --> 01:51:22,570
now when people sign up for an appointment online, they sign up to be virtually in line or

1406
01:51:22,570 --> 01:51:27,490
they're walking, they're all just combined, but all transactions do not take the same amount

1407
01:51:27,490 --> 01:51:32,310
of time. But our system doesn't allow us to say, hey, you've made an appointment, what are

1408
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:38,290
you coming in for so that we can pre-organize the work and get those short transactions done

1409
01:51:38,290 --> 01:51:44,950
very quickly. And so that's one of the things that we we're very confident is going to improve

1410
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:51,670
the way that our operation works for a lot of people because we still do have 40% of our citizens

1411
01:51:51,670 --> 01:51:58,730
that are paying for the renewals online but and there's also statutory things that we'd like to

1412
01:51:59,490 --> 01:52:05,750
work with the state on in terms of getting more options that you could do online as opposed to

1413
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:11,430
making people come in person and so forth so you know that's a longer term strategy but in the

1414
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:17,070
shorter term we are already we are making this change we did an operational performance audit

1415
01:52:17,070 --> 01:52:22,590
and it was very instructional in terms of some of the things we need to do that are low cost,

1416
01:52:23,330 --> 01:52:30,150
that are not real expensive, you know, so people can hear that they're lying, that their numbers

1417
01:52:30,150 --> 01:52:37,370
up. The audio systems are woefully inadequate, and so having a screen that makes it really apparent

1418
01:52:37,370 --> 01:52:43,150
where you are in mind will be better service. So we do believe that the citizens will see better

1419
01:52:43,150 --> 01:52:49,550
service. And that would be kind of the main thing that would, you know, make me hopeful about this,

1420
01:52:49,690 --> 01:52:58,870
just knowing the uncertainties that we can can make smart capital purchases that can last,

1421
01:52:59,230 --> 01:53:07,420
that folks can see and say, okay, this investment was made, and now I have a better experience at the

1422
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:12,720
And again, for folks kind of watching, the question isn't, are we going to pay for

1423
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:13,720
the DMV service?

1424
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:17,740
We're going to pay for it either through our property taxes, through the sales tax

1425
01:53:17,740 --> 01:53:19,300
or through this fee.

1426
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:20,600
So it's going to be paid for.

1427
01:53:21,060 --> 01:53:23,860
The question is, how are we going to pay for it?

1428
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:30,900
And then do we have an opportunity to be strategic and make some investments that will improve

1429
01:53:30,900 --> 01:53:36,060
the customer experience, which to me, it's probably the strongest argument for this.

1430
01:53:36,060 --> 01:53:45,580
While also again, weighing that another fee means costs do go up and I do take that into consideration as well. Thank you, Mayor.

1431
01:53:48,220 --> 01:53:50,720
County administrator, can I sure hear you took yours off?

1432
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:56,280
Thank you, Mayor. I was just going down that same path. I just wanted to know.

1433
01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:08,940
So, like, will this require, on the other end, would it require hiring more staff or improving

1434
01:54:08,940 --> 01:54:19,180
equipment or, you know, so my thought was like, Commissioner Davis, what will the community

1435
01:54:19,180 --> 01:54:24,760
see different when they go get there, whatever they need from the DMV?

1436
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:38,840
That was my so we pretty much and then you answered that you are already working on some things and so yeah, we'll be helpful because that's one of the things the community asks.

1437
01:54:39,540 --> 01:54:50,020
Where are my you know we're paying for this and we don't see any improvement so that's what I like to hear what are the improvements that we are expecting.

1438
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:50,840
Thank you.

1439
01:54:50,840 --> 01:55:04,380
Thank you, Commissioner Hill and the County Administrator and I'll just add to I think it's worth noting that the state of Kansas also has a motor vehicle modernization task force that's also looking at motor vehicles.

1440
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:18,240
I think one of the challenges for the motor vehicle offices that the back office systems that they rely on are state systems and they are not the most modern state systems.

1441
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:39,980
I think would be a charitable way to say that, and so that if you look at what some other states have now in terms of online services for DMV and other things, this is one of the areas that the state is looking at as well as I think the fee structure and how counties can continue to fund these services.

1442
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,240
So it's an active conversation at the state level as well.

1443
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:45,430
Commissioner Davis.

1444
01:55:45,430 --> 01:55:45,610
Yes.

1445
01:55:46,170 --> 01:55:46,330
Thanks.

1446
01:55:46,330 --> 01:55:47,210
I'll see it's very quickly.

1447
01:55:47,770 --> 01:55:48,490
It's in my understanding.

1448
01:55:48,490 --> 01:55:55,150
I don't know if we can put the document up again, but just for kind of folks to be aware.

1449
01:55:55,790 --> 01:56:03,930
Because this was included in the proposed budget, if we didn't do the $3 additional fee for

1450
01:56:03,930 --> 01:56:10,390
the DMV, it would be a shortfall of roughly $378,000, do I read that correctly?

1451
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:22,450
And I guess what staff is proposing is if we were to for go that additional $3 that we would have to take on extra debt for the radio.

1452
01:56:24,030 --> 01:56:29,510
The radios that are needed for the emergency management department. Do I have that correct as well?

1453
01:56:30,350 --> 01:56:37,010
So I think again and not an easy decision but I just want folks to be very clear again that it's going to have to be paid for somewhere.

1454
01:56:37,010 --> 01:56:42,470
and so we're choosing between, we need to pay for the radios, absolutely.

1455
01:56:43,510 --> 01:56:47,090
But the question becomes, do we want to pay for it with cash?

1456
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:55,490
And that only becomes available because this fee takes some pressure off the general fund and allows us to not use debt

1457
01:56:55,490 --> 01:57:00,310
to pay for those emergency radios, or do we finance it?

1458
01:57:00,470 --> 01:57:02,110
And then, of course, we have to pay interest.

1459
01:57:02,110 --> 01:57:09,810
And so again, another thing for us to consider as we weigh a multiple very much needed concerns

1460
01:57:09,810 --> 01:57:12,390
and pros and cons with this proposal.

1461
01:57:12,630 --> 01:57:13,090
Thank you.

1462
01:57:14,330 --> 01:57:15,070
All right.

1463
01:57:15,310 --> 01:57:15,490
Yeah.

1464
01:57:15,530 --> 01:57:20,970
Since we don't have any other questions or comments, I need a motion to approve the adoption

1465
01:57:20,970 --> 01:57:26,070
of resolution, authorizing an increase of three additional dollars charged for vehicle registration

1466
01:57:26,580 --> 01:57:28,570
or renewal for total aid dollars.

1467
01:57:29,370 --> 01:57:30,350
Motion to approve.

1468
01:57:30,830 --> 01:57:31,290
Thank you.

1469
01:57:31,290 --> 01:57:36,910
Pacheco. Second. All right. It's been moved by Pacheco and second by Ramirez.

1470
01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:43,410
Roll cobbling. Roll call Ramirez. I kill our Pacheco. I low piz.

1471
01:57:44,290 --> 01:57:51,830
Stites. Oh, Davis. I find them. I come. No. Howard. I

1472
01:57:53,250 --> 01:57:57,790
Burns. I the vote is eight to two. The motion. Or yes, eight to two. The motion

1473
01:57:57,790 --> 01:58:08,810
carries. Thank you. All right. The last item item number 11.4 is one item. However, there are

1474
01:58:08,810 --> 01:58:14,530
various budget elements within the item. Each element will require a separate vote. At this time,

1475
01:58:14,610 --> 01:58:18,310
I will turn the matter over to our interim County Administrator Allen House for comment.

1476
01:58:19,290 --> 01:58:23,030
All right. Thank you, Mayor. And I'll ask if we could look if we could bring that document on

1477
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:32,270
the

1478
01:58:32,270 --> 01:58:58,990
item in the proposed budget that was presented to you all, it included a 1 mil increase on the county side and that was composed of two parts, it was composed of a half mil general fund and a half mil for the county infrastructure program called sci fi, which allocates funding from the county mill for each of the cities in wine.

1479
01:58:58,990 --> 01:59:05,070
County and so and just for clarity say the sci-fi funding is in a separate

1480
01:59:05,070 --> 01:59:08,310
fund it's not part of the general fund and that's why they're two different

1481
01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:14,470
pieces each at a half mill so what we provided in option what's the list is

1482
01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:21,050
option two clear maybe if you can zoom in a little bit here on option options you

1483
01:59:21,050 --> 01:59:28,970
can zoom in okay commission you have I believe you have the document in front of

1484
01:59:30,970 --> 01:59:58,950
So again the original proposed had that the half mill for the general fund half mill for sci fi option two it focuses on the general fund and the question of whether to have an additional half mill increase for the county general fund should the commission elect not to have a half mill increase for the county general fund we've made a sort of recommended recommended adjustments that would account for the amount of revenue that would be reduced with

1485
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:59,970
which is that-

1486
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,940
1,162,000 that is equivalent of half of a county mill. You can see in the adjustments column a series of adjustments across a number of different areas. No deep cuts in any one area. It would maybe slow or move out a couple of things a little bit, but it will allow things like our siren replacement program to continue. It would allow the sheriff to hire up to five additional staff from his requested six.

1487
02:00:28,940 --> 02:00:34,200
It would remove the intergovernmental position and the performance management position that

1488
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:35,320
were in the introduced budget.

1489
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:44,800
And it would also include savings from more active management, if you will, of personnel

1490
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:45,380
vacancies.

1491
02:00:45,860 --> 02:00:51,020
So, as an example, if there's a vacant position that comes open during the year, that might

1492
02:00:51,020 --> 02:00:53,620
be held for a month before that's filled.

1493
02:00:54,180 --> 02:00:58,400
And because all the positions in the budget are funded at 100 percent, that would generate

1494
02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:03,800
hard-dollar savings that would be towards these targets here. And then the last

1495
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:10,980
item is the emergency radios. This is a large dollar ticket item. And so we had

1496
02:01:10,980 --> 02:01:15,680
envisioned funding that partially with lease financing and partially with cash.

1497
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:19,880
So we would increase the amount of lease financing and that would

1498
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:25,580
generate an additional 500,000 in savings. So again the total of those

1499
02:01:25,580 --> 02:01:31,000
adjustments equals and just just exceeds what the reduction target would be for the half

1500
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:37,980
mill on the county general fund side should the commission elect not to go that route of the half

1501
02:01:37,980 --> 02:01:43,420
mill increase and open for questions if there are any on that one.

1502
02:01:45,450 --> 02:01:48,870
So I have a point of clarification.

1503
02:01:51,530 --> 02:02:00,500
on the Nile County General Farm when we had this conversation earlier, but I just want

1504
02:02:00,500 --> 02:02:01,640
to see what my commissioners think.

1505
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:10,020
This 1.162 is the reduction target, which is half of

1506
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:14,780
the mill. But if you were not to do any mill,

1507
02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:21,400
the expenses exceed the revenue currently

1508
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:22,160
for the county.

1509
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:32,040
I don't understand why we just don't put that number there that you would have to

1510
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:37,420
make the adjustments on instead of using that reduction target amount of the mill half a mill.

1511
02:02:39,430 --> 02:02:40,830
I don't understand that.

1512
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:47,120
I don't have that document. I can't remember what that amount was.

1513
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:54,160
It is 946,000 dollars, Mary. Okay, so that amount is 946,000 dollars.

1514
02:02:54,160 --> 02:03:00,240
In the number of it, Mayor Watson is talking about it, it's the deficit with not having

1515
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:07,140
the half of mill within the county general fund so it's a negative $946,000 and that means

1516
02:03:07,140 --> 02:03:10,740
we have more expenses coming into revenues.

1517
02:03:12,700 --> 02:03:18,060
So can't, why can't we just use that number instead of the 1.162?

1518
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,100
That is definitely possible.

1519
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:33,680
We could use that because if we use the 946,000 instead of the 1.1, then we have a positive

1520
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:38,500
that can be adjusted off the list.

1521
02:03:40,580 --> 02:03:42,440
The difference between the...

1522
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:44,040
No.

1523
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:45,320
Okay.

1524
02:03:45,460 --> 02:03:45,960
They don't understand.

1525
02:03:46,420 --> 02:03:47,220
So I'm trying to help.

1526
02:03:47,420 --> 02:03:48,640
Richie helped me help me help.

1527
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:53,200
So the difference between the $946,000 that we have

1528
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:59,720
a negative balance for in the county general fund

1529
02:04:00,060 --> 02:04:04,440
and the $1.1 million just on the sheet,

1530
02:04:05,140 --> 02:04:07,740
difference is like $225,000.

1531
02:04:08,260 --> 02:04:11,880
That means we would have to cut $225,000 less.

1532
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:16,940
So some of these adjustments at county administrator houses

1533
02:04:16,940 --> 02:04:19,980
just put out, we would not have to do.

1534
02:04:22,270 --> 02:04:23,050
You follow me?

1535
02:04:23,890 --> 02:04:26,890
So on that one sheet that he showed, they showed us

1536
02:04:26,890 --> 02:04:31,250
where had somebody have theirs, I didn't bring it.

1537
02:04:31,650 --> 02:04:34,310
Let me give it a try, Mayor.

1538
02:04:34,570 --> 02:04:34,810
You want me to?

1539
02:04:35,030 --> 02:04:35,870
Commissioner Ramirez.

1540
02:04:38,210 --> 02:04:43,350
I guess I'm trying to understand where you're thinking.

1541
02:04:44,350 --> 02:04:49,170
Or how this 946,000, that's a deficit.

1542
02:04:49,170 --> 02:04:56,670
it. Why I guess I'm on the same line of view of why can't we find either reductions

1543
02:04:56,670 --> 02:05:02,490
or reducing from that one nine hundred and forty six thousand since if we go to the

1544
02:05:02,490 --> 02:05:06,690
route of we're not going to take a mill on the county, let's just revert back to the

1545
02:05:06,690 --> 02:05:13,810
deficit of the revenues and expenditures. So that's where I'm I get I see where you're

1546
02:05:13,810 --> 02:05:16,190
We're coming from there. It's kind of hard to describe it.

1547
02:05:18,150 --> 02:05:22,970
Let me give it a try and budget can correct me.

1548
02:05:23,650 --> 02:05:35,550
In the introduced proposed budget, we, well, Reggie, I'm going to, where's the 946 number come from?

1549
02:05:36,050 --> 02:05:38,130
Some of the efforts between expenses and revenues.

1550
02:05:38,130 --> 02:05:51,210
So if we if we don't have the additional half mill in the county general fund and did not cut in any expenses we be dipping into the fund balance 946,000.

1551
02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:04,920
So that difference is the amount that you need to adjust in something to add to that.

1552
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:10,400
in the original proposed budget, we were adding to the fund balance.

1553
02:06:10,620 --> 02:06:12,080
Remember, there was a positive.

1554
02:06:12,380 --> 02:06:14,820
I know, I don't want to add to understand that mayor.

1555
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:19,280
I'm just explaining the difference between what a half mill is, which is 1162.

1556
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:21,280
I know what the half mill is.

1557
02:06:21,380 --> 02:06:23,420
And the 946 is the distance.

1558
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:27,460
We weren't going to be adding to the fund balance if we don't do the mill.

1559
02:06:27,620 --> 02:06:30,900
But if we do do the mill, then we add to the fund balance.

1560
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,080
Right. But I don't want to add to the fund balance.

1561
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:39,560
I want to just keep it flat, okay, and if you keep it flat with no mills, all right,

1562
02:06:40,060 --> 02:06:46,320
we're still at a deficit of $946,542, right?

1563
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:55,740
So I'm just saying, with no mill, can that sheet just reflect that $946,000 deficit

1564
02:06:55,740 --> 02:06:57,740
and you make the adjustment off of it?

1565
02:06:59,220 --> 02:07:00,420
Does that make sense?

1566
02:07:01,940 --> 02:07:19,420
Okay, because if you do it based off of that there's 225,000 additional you have to adjust and we don't need to do that because we're only short 946,000 and not 1.162.

1567
02:07:19,420 --> 02:07:22,960
If you don't do them,

1568
02:07:25,460 --> 02:07:32,600
well, I'm not short, but you know what I mean, negative.

1569
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:39,660
Yes, Commissioner Bynum.

1570
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:42,200
I appreciate where you're going.

1571
02:07:49,950 --> 02:07:52,570
What would the...

1572
02:07:57,820 --> 02:08:02,060
And before you say that, anything, I also want to address this.

1573
02:08:02,780 --> 02:08:07,220
We don't, the intergovernmental relations position in the performance management positions

1574
02:08:07,220 --> 02:08:11,740
are not existing positions or two new positions.

1575
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:15,440
So I say they don't even need to be on this document.

1576
02:08:16,860 --> 02:08:19,100
We shouldn't be, they shouldn't be even considered

1577
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,360
because we can't afford it.

1578
02:08:20,820 --> 02:08:24,740
So then really we're only looking at the rest of those items

1579
02:08:24,740 --> 02:08:26,140
that would need to be adjusted.

1580
02:08:26,740 --> 02:08:31,380
And because we do need more staff for the sheriff.

1581
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:36,840
I can see in the first three lines,

1582
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:42,940
you know where we could as you said we don't necessarily have to fund those

1583
02:08:42,940 --> 02:08:50,680
first two positions. Thank you. But what I'm just trying to wrap my head around

1584
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:57,740
is I think the reason why the reduction target is 1.162 is because that's half a

1585
02:08:57,740 --> 02:08:59,400
bill. Correct?

1586
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:10,300
Yes, that is it. And so option two says no half mill increase, therefore

1587
02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:19,900
reduction of 1.162. And these are the items we wouldn't do within the county budget.

1588
02:09:19,900 --> 02:09:28,220
But if we change that number from 1.162 million to 946,000,

1589
02:09:30,370 --> 02:09:34,370
what kind of mill increase does that represent?

1590
02:09:35,410 --> 02:09:37,630
There would be no mill increase.

1591
02:09:38,730 --> 02:09:43,370
We would need a half mill increase at all if we were to like take it.

1592
02:09:43,590 --> 02:09:50,410
If we took 946,000 dollars worth of reductions in the budget, we would need to have a mill increase.

1593
02:09:50,410 --> 02:09:56,070
If we didn't take a mill increase and didn't make any reductions, we could also spend

1594
02:09:56,070 --> 02:09:58,810
$946,000 from fund balance.

1595
02:09:58,910 --> 02:10:01,170
Either way, we're pulling from fund balance.

1596
02:10:02,230 --> 02:10:09,650
No, if we reduce the expenditures, we would not be from fund balance.

1597
02:10:09,710 --> 02:10:20,390
And based on, at that point, if we did the $946 and had a flat mill levied, stop me

1598
02:10:20,390 --> 02:10:25,770
when I'm saying something wrong, would we then turn it to

1599
02:10:25,770 --> 02:10:31,690
administration and staff to identify the 946 that we wouldn't

1600
02:10:31,690 --> 02:10:35,250
spend or are we to identify that tonight?

1601
02:10:36,050 --> 02:10:40,650
We would identify that tonight, so again the goal being a budget

1602
02:10:40,650 --> 02:10:44,090
adoption tonight, commission doesn't meet again until the 17th and

1603
02:10:44,090 --> 02:10:48,090
pushing up on the state deadline, so it's really so you know that

1604
02:10:48,090 --> 02:10:57,090
to add to 16 back in, you could add in the sheriff at 110, you're at 106 left and you could add

1605
02:10:57,090 --> 02:11:03,330
that back in. Let's just say cash radios and you're done.

1606
02:11:08,810 --> 02:11:09,770
Does that make sense?

1607
02:11:10,850 --> 02:11:16,990
Well, I'm working on it. I think the thing that's confusing me in general about the options is,

1608
02:11:18,370 --> 02:11:24,890
within option two is the half-mill for sci-fi in it or out of it.

1609
02:11:25,250 --> 02:11:29,830
It's not part of it. Sci-fi is in a different fund and so that is still there.

1610
02:11:29,830 --> 02:11:31,870
So that's its own vote? Yes.

1611
02:11:32,070 --> 02:11:34,270
And half-mill for sci-fi is its own vote.

1612
02:11:35,690 --> 02:11:39,450
I don't know if it's its own vote, but we would make the decision here.

1613
02:11:39,730 --> 02:11:43,090
It's its own decision. So it was in the proposed budget.

1614
02:11:43,090 --> 02:11:47,270
budget, the half mill for sci-fi was in the proposed budget, if the commission...

1615
02:11:47,270 --> 02:11:53,650
So, what I'm driving at is if I said that I was in favor of option two, I would be

1616
02:11:53,650 --> 02:11:57,890
saying that I'm in favor of the half mill for sci-fi.

1617
02:11:57,990 --> 02:12:01,430
No, that's an independent decision of the half mill in the general fund.

1618
02:12:04,020 --> 02:12:09,520
Because these don't, like I recognize that option three, we voted, we've already voted

1619
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:11,180
on that one, so it's off the table.

1620
02:12:11,900 --> 02:12:21,740
correct. And so are we picking one of the remaining three options to vote on? Yes. So if

1621
02:12:21,740 --> 02:12:28,360
there's the original proposed, some commissioners have expressed to desire to do the original

1622
02:12:28,360 --> 02:12:34,020
as proposed, some commissioners have expressed the desire to do a flat mill levy. And then

1623
02:12:34,020 --> 02:12:37,220
some commissioners have expressed the desire to have sci-fi. So we've got all.

1624
02:12:37,220 --> 02:12:49,520
And my question is a flat mill levy would the option neither fund the half mill or sci-fi?

1625
02:12:49,580 --> 02:12:55,880
That is correct. Okay, I'll wait for somebody to make a motion that I understand.

1626
02:13:04,870 --> 02:13:05,910
Commissioner Ramirez.

1627
02:13:07,900 --> 02:13:15,260
Thank you, Mayor. If we are going to go with the reduction target of 946 and

1628
02:13:17,900 --> 02:13:26,580
542, what would be those, as Alan said, the administrator said that we need to have those

1629
02:13:26,580 --> 02:13:34,580
at decision tonight to pass the budget. So I would ask, are we can we verbally say what those

1630
02:13:34,580 --> 02:13:38,540
reductions may be so that I can write them down for myself?

1631
02:13:38,540 --> 02:13:43,460
My fellow Commissioner, what I just suggested was that we add back in the sheriff's position.

1632
02:13:44,040 --> 02:13:53,800
So that's 110, and then you add 106 to the last finite item, which would be additional cash for the least purchase of the emergency radios, maybe an amount of 106,000.

1633
02:13:54,480 --> 02:14:01,900
And that didn't that totals 216,000, which is the difference between the 1162 and the 946.

1634
02:14:08,140 --> 02:14:08,660
Thank you.

1635
02:14:08,660 --> 02:14:13,620
So to make it a little clearer, hopefully.

1636
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:26,560
So using the 946, that still was going to give us money to the balance, the 215, 216.

1637
02:14:27,140 --> 02:14:29,240
So we don't do that, right?

1638
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:47,760
And the recommendation that Allen just articulated, the interim county administrator was that you would not do the intergovernmental, you would not do the performance management, but you would do the share of staffing so that negative 110 goes back in.

1639
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:57,300
you wouldn't do the reduction in siren and you would manage the positions through position

1640
02:14:57,300 --> 02:14:59,920
and management, but you would change that five.

1641
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:15,250
100,000 to a reduction of roughly 398. 398. So it would be more that we could do in cash, but

1642
02:15:15,250 --> 02:15:21,650
we still need to do some of that in least finance. But that would be the how that sheet on

1643
02:15:21,650 --> 02:15:26,150
option two would be adjusted. And not too many alternatives to that, but if you wanted

1644
02:15:26,150 --> 02:15:29,470
they had the 50 back in for the siren, you said, you know, do that.

1645
02:15:29,610 --> 02:15:31,150
And then just do less on the radio.

1646
02:15:31,150 --> 02:15:37,710
So, or he just do the 946 and then whatever that difference of 225.

1647
02:15:38,530 --> 02:15:40,070
Mary, that was the 946.

1648
02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:42,590
That was the 946 for the 946.

1649
02:15:42,890 --> 02:15:43,090
Okay.

1650
02:15:44,570 --> 02:15:48,910
I'm talking about the 946 versus the, that matter, never mind.

1651
02:15:49,910 --> 02:15:50,730
Commissioner Hill.

1652
02:15:54,140 --> 02:15:57,000
Thank you, Madam Mayor Hill district four.

1653
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:09,260
I'm just trying to understand on the 75,500 I think the mayor mentioned that this intergovernmental

1654
02:16:09,260 --> 02:16:17,080
relations position is really not a part of the budget or shouldn't be a part of the

1655
02:16:17,080 --> 02:16:17,480
budget.

1656
02:16:19,100 --> 02:16:26,260
It's in the 2027 proposed budget, so it was funded in the 2027 proposed budget, it would

1657
02:16:26,260 --> 02:16:31,900
be a new position, so there's not a body in that position. So it would, by removing it,

1658
02:16:31,980 --> 02:16:37,120
it would take it, it would count towards the 946 reduction number for both of those.

1659
02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:42,540
And also note that both of those positions are ones that would be funded by the city and

1660
02:16:42,540 --> 02:16:47,920
by the county by virtue of the position crossing and working in both areas.

1661
02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:49,020
Okay,

1662
02:16:51,280 --> 02:17:07,440
so I'm going to ask the question again. Maybe this time I'll understand your answer. So you're saying even though it's a part of the 2027 budget proposed budget, we've got to do something with it now.

1663
02:17:08,640 --> 02:17:09,860
That's what you're saying.

1664
02:17:10,500 --> 02:17:18,640
Right to hit the 946 reduction, which is if you don't include the half mill, so you have a flat mill rate.

1665
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:24,240
You've got to, you've got to take reductions out of the proposed budget in order to balance

1666
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:24,840
that out.

1667
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:31,700
And that would be the adjustments on the right column that would get you to this balance

1668
02:17:31,700 --> 02:17:36,700
between expenses and revenues, so you're not dipping into fund balance in order to have

1669
02:17:36,700 --> 02:17:37,460
a balanced budget.

1670
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:39,440
I don't know if that.

1671
02:17:45,590 --> 02:17:46,150
Okay.

1672
02:17:48,820 --> 02:17:49,940
Commissioner Cump.

1673
02:17:51,890 --> 02:17:52,470
Thank you, Mayor.

1674
02:17:52,570 --> 02:17:53,230
Come to it large.

1675
02:17:53,550 --> 02:17:54,350
I'm following.

1676
02:17:54,350 --> 02:18:04,110
I think, personally, what I'd like to see is still reducing entire half-mill balance and allocate the remaining 216K-ish to sci-fi.

1677
02:18:05,150 --> 02:18:08,390
It's about 20% of what we budgeted for initially, but it is something.

1678
02:18:08,850 --> 02:18:12,510
And my God, we haven't put anything to that for ages.

1679
02:18:14,910 --> 02:18:21,150
Cut the entire 1162, 1.16, instead of the 946, right?

1680
02:18:21,150 --> 02:18:29,090
But then take that difference from the 946-1162, which is about 216,000, and allocate that

1681
02:18:29,090 --> 02:18:29,870
to the Sci-Fi fund.

1682
02:18:30,330 --> 02:18:33,390
And don't raise the mill for the county at all.

1683
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:36,040
I was thinking I'd do.

1684
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:39,500
That's another option.

1685
02:18:39,780 --> 02:18:40,700
I was thinking I'd do comp.

1686
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:41,400
Thank you.

1687
02:18:43,180 --> 02:18:44,220
Commissioner Pacheco.

1688
02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:46,080
Thank you, Mayor.

1689
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:47,140
Pacheco District 5.

1690
02:18:47,140 --> 02:18:57,520
I've on the line item that says 400,000 adjustments through position management example holding vacant positions open for a period of time which departments are we considering for those?

1691
02:18:59,120 --> 02:19:10,040
So that would be a county wide, you know, as vacancies come open, we have a 10 to 15% turn over rate on any given year and that happens across all departments.

1692
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:15,140
So it would be sort of active management across all those departments or vacancy savings.

1693
02:19:15,140 --> 02:19:21,420
Thank you. Wouldn't be holding any position open vacant for a whole year. That's sort of thing. It's really on a rolling basis.

1694
02:19:21,980 --> 02:19:36,940
Thank you. And then I will also say that for me personally, I would not support any savings on the line item that says reduce share of staffing increase to 550,000 versus 660,000. I just personally will not support any decrease in public safety.

1695
02:19:36,940 --> 02:19:50,020
So, I'm not necessarily against the plan to get us kind of toward commissioner compass is going towards, but I just I don't want to do it on the backs of public safety. Thank you.

1696
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:51,660
Commissioner Ramirez.

1697
02:19:52,620 --> 02:19:53,340
Thank you, Mayor.

1698
02:19:53,340 --> 02:19:59,040
Mr. Racheco, I'm right there with you, I support you on that.

1699
02:19:59,540 --> 02:20:08,260
But I think when the mayor's idea of us using that reduction target of the 946, 946,000,

1700
02:20:08,900 --> 02:20:16,360
the administrator did bake into back that 110, back into the sheriff's staffing.

1701
02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:24,320
so that would be null and void. The sheriff would still get his staffing, his request.

1702
02:20:25,080 --> 02:20:29,540
That was, it's in the budget. If I'm correct, administrator, that's what that means.

1703
02:20:31,240 --> 02:20:36,180
That sure, if I entirely track what you were saying, Commissioner, you would try that one more time.

1704
02:20:36,180 --> 02:20:58,320
So, we're instead, if we were to use the 946,000 as the reduction target, we said one of the things was the 110 and then part of the radios to make up that to 16 so that 110,000 the sheriff would still keep that correct.

1705
02:20:58,960 --> 02:21:04,100
Yes. Yes. So if we went with that route, Commissioner Pateco, there would be no reduction

1706
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:06,560
to the sheriff's request that's in the proposed budget.

1707
02:21:09,630 --> 02:21:12,330
If we know, if we go that route,

1708
02:21:12,450 --> 02:21:14,110
and it seems there's multiple routes at the moment.

1709
02:21:17,330 --> 02:21:19,290
If you, if I understand Commissioner

1710
02:21:19,290 --> 02:21:23,730
to restate what I think I heard, if you added that 110,000 back in for the sheriff,

1711
02:21:23,730 --> 02:21:32,270
of that, off of the 216, you need to have 100 in 6,000 and are you suggesting that could

1712
02:21:32,270 --> 02:21:36,890
be allocated for any number of things. It could be sci-fi, it could be radios, it could

1713
02:21:36,890 --> 02:21:37,350
be siren.

1714
02:21:40,370 --> 02:21:47,850
No, I thought you, when we had asked if how would we make up that 946, you would said from

1715
02:21:47,850 --> 02:21:54,030
the shares, from the 110, because it's about the difference between the 1162 and the 946

1716
02:21:54,030 --> 02:22:04,150
46 is you said 216. Yes, and that would be about the sheriff's putting the sheriff's back in and then you said 106 from the radios.

1717
02:22:05,170 --> 02:22:08,670
So that's where I that's where I was telling Commissioner Pateco.

1718
02:22:09,250 --> 02:22:18,250
If we went that route, the sheriff would still keep his request and we would just lower a little lower the radios a little bit more.

1719
02:22:20,690 --> 02:22:23,410
But again, if we were to go that route.

1720
02:22:30,660 --> 02:22:31,540
Commissioner Davis.

1721
02:22:32,480 --> 02:22:32,960
Thanks Mayor.

1722
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:35,420
I think I'm tracking.

1723
02:22:35,780 --> 02:22:45,990
I guess the other or the trade-off would be if we don't go with the kind of current proposal

1724
02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:52,230
than that does leave our reserves are cash and you fund balance, still just lacking.

1725
02:22:54,710 --> 02:23:01,810
And I think that's probably the main concern that I have.

1726
02:23:02,090 --> 02:23:07,270
The other thing is I'm fine with 110 for the sheriff because that does kind of

1727
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:16,710
get that request for that remaining, that would be what, $114,500, I would prefer we look

1728
02:23:16,710 --> 02:23:23,890
at reducing our alliance on debt for those remaining dollars if we go that route as opposed

1729
02:23:23,890 --> 02:23:25,190
to the staffing adjustments.

1730
02:23:25,490 --> 02:23:34,110
And so I do see the siren, the radio siren replacement for $50,000, I think we would completely

1731
02:23:34,110 --> 02:23:38,290
We fund that through cash if I'm reading that correctly, it wouldn't have to do lease

1732
02:23:38,290 --> 02:23:38,930
financing.

1733
02:23:39,610 --> 02:23:45,050
And then we could also lower the amount needed for lease financing for the emergency

1734
02:23:45,050 --> 02:23:45,810
radios.

1735
02:23:46,010 --> 02:23:53,030
And so that would be my preference for us to say yes to the sheriff and then use cash instead

1736
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:56,430
of debt for the radios and for the silence.

1737
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:00,740
Okay.

1738
02:24:03,750 --> 02:24:04,730
Commissioner Pacheco.

1739
02:24:04,730 --> 02:24:08,010
Well, thank you, Mayor Pacheco district five.

1740
02:24:09,790 --> 02:24:12,970
Some would have a philosophical question, I just want to try to understand.

1741
02:24:15,790 --> 02:24:21,470
I'm hearing what Commissioner Davis was just saying and I appreciate not wanting to

1742
02:24:22,030 --> 02:24:27,030
trying to find a way to not have to use new debt as much as possible with what he's proposing

1743
02:24:27,030 --> 02:24:28,610
and I agree with that.

1744
02:24:28,610 --> 02:24:44,890
My, I guess, an aside to that, my question would be for staff here would be, does not increasing the mill, even by 0.5, limit our ability, does it limit our plan on our debt paydown?

1745
02:24:46,090 --> 02:24:54,070
The current plan that we have to continually decrease our debt service that we've been successful at over the last few budget cycles.

1746
02:24:54,070 --> 02:24:59,550
It does not affect it at all. Our plans still are planned.

1747
02:25:00,070 --> 02:25:11,150
Okay, so that our debt pay down, our debt service pay down would still be just as good as it was and what can you give me the plan a little bit on that just exactly where we're at on that because I think it's important.

1748
02:25:13,870 --> 02:25:21,650
So we did the first year. We did a pause, no debt. Second year, we limited it to $10 million. That's the year we're in.

1749
02:25:22,370 --> 02:25:35,490
The year for 27, we're proposing $10 million. And then in the next year, we've got the capacity for 20, but that will be a discussion for you all at that time. But we're slow on path for that.

1750
02:25:35,490 --> 02:25:40,930
Very good. Thank you. Commissioner Bynum,

1751
02:25:44,350 --> 02:25:49,470
if we look at slide 23 from last week's budget workshop,

1752
02:25:53,630 --> 02:26:08,930
no additional mill for the 27 budget expenses outpaced revenues by $946,542 and

1753
02:26:11,430 --> 02:26:15,390
so we would be using our fund balance.

1754
02:26:15,390 --> 02:26:19,790
to balance the county side of the budget.

1755
02:26:21,490 --> 02:26:30,630
Mr. Finance, we're trying to identify some regressions so that we did not, so we had a balanced budget, structurally balanced.

1756
02:26:31,090 --> 02:26:41,970
So rather than find 1.162 million, which would still have given us about 216,000 to go to the fund balance.

1757
02:26:41,970 --> 02:26:48,310
Okay. We're taking you back off the table. Dr. Can even I'm sorry. Can you back up a little bit?

1758
02:26:49,150 --> 02:26:55,430
Yeah. I want to I just am trying to thoroughly understand is that what that slide says on

1759
02:26:55,430 --> 02:27:08,410
last week's budget workshop? Yeah. There it is. On that slide, what Commissioner Biden

1760
02:27:08,410 --> 02:27:16,270
is saying is that if you look at what the amended is and you all have already taken you're going to

1761
02:27:16,270 --> 02:27:23,070
take because that money's already cooked that 1.2 million for amended. You're already spent it. So

1762
02:27:23,070 --> 02:27:33,350
that means you took money out of cash balance and we have $5,423,851. Now going to 2027 budget.

1763
02:27:34,530 --> 02:27:43,610
the fund. If we took 946,000 out of the fund balance, we'd have 4 million left. What we're proposing

1764
02:27:43,610 --> 02:27:50,790
here is we don't take the money out of fund balance. We leave that. We don't touch it. We just make

1765
02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:57,150
the adjustments in the budget in the expenditures. Correct. That's the place where I was trying to get to.

1766
02:27:57,150 --> 02:28:12,630
We would make the expenditure for 27 match the $102 million to $18,000 and that means finding

1767
02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:19,560
$946,000 in expenses to cut.

1768
02:28:22,740 --> 02:28:26,860
And so I don't, so I'll stop there.

1769
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:30,680
Commissioner Ramirez.

1770
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:31,640
Thank you, Mayor.

1771
02:28:33,020 --> 02:28:33,700
Yes, correct.

1772
02:28:33,900 --> 02:28:34,440
Commissioner Bonham.

1773
02:28:34,580 --> 02:28:40,260
And I, and I just, and I think what Allen was using were the ones that he already proposed

1774
02:28:40,860 --> 02:28:41,660
on the sheet.

1775
02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:49,900
And so I asked him if there's any way staff could quickly redo the chart with the new numbers using

1776
02:28:49,900 --> 02:28:56,100
the target of the 946 so that we, commissioners, can have a better view of it.

1777
02:28:56,100 --> 02:29:06,680
So that we're not confused and Alan he's trying to work on that and it was kind of hard to do that in a quick real time.

1778
02:29:08,120 --> 02:29:14,000
Just so that the community can see the new numbers, the new reductions of what's maybe proposed.

1779
02:29:15,140 --> 02:29:16,700
Thank you, Commissioner Ramirez.

1780
02:29:16,700 --> 02:29:25,940
If you can put the other sheep back up, and I know we're working on getting it in live form, if you will.

1781
02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:36,660
But I think what's been suggested is two ideas so far. The 755 still stays negative. The 36,000 stays negative.

1782
02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:53,860
We eliminate the negative 110, meaning we fund the share position, and then there's been two discussion items, the 50,000 either we fully fund the sirens or we reduce the sirens by 50.

1783
02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:56,900
That's kind of I've heard two schools of thought.

1784
02:29:56,900 --> 02:29:59,660
But the 400,000 stays negative.

1785
02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:27,560
And then it depends on what you do with the sirens with what you would do on the emergency radios. And it would either be 334,500, instead of the 500,000, or it would be 386,386,500, if you wanted to eliminate, not eliminate the sirens or eliminate the sirens.

1786
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:42,520
both ways. You need to discuss if you want to keep the sirens in it and in or not. And then that'll change the number for the lease radios to make up for that 50,000 as that plans proposed or you come up with the whole new idea.

1787
02:30:43,260 --> 02:30:45,480
But that's that's how the numbers would shake out.

1788
02:30:45,480 --> 02:30:46,000
that

1789
02:30:52,270 --> 02:30:52,870
you have it.

1790
02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:01,700
Commissioner Pacheco.

1791
02:31:02,700 --> 02:31:03,900
Thank you, Mayor.

1792
02:31:04,440 --> 02:31:05,640
Pacheco District 5.

1793
02:31:05,940 --> 02:31:11,420
So what I'd like to understand is kind of the mode of the commission as best as possible.

1794
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:16,860
Is there no interest in decreasing our commitment to sci-fi?

1795
02:31:17,240 --> 02:31:21,280
The amount as commissioner comp essentially is proposing.

1796
02:31:22,060 --> 02:31:25,120
I think some funding of it is better than nothing.

1797
02:31:27,180 --> 02:31:34,120
And it gives us the opportunity to not dip into the fund balance similarly to our current

1798
02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:35,420
option that we're kind of talking through.

1799
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:41,660
So, I'm not necessarily committed one way or another to be honest, but I mean, I do think

1800
02:31:41,660 --> 02:31:47,500
it is a creative way to try to make the sheet balance.

1801
02:31:47,500 --> 02:31:49,020
So Commissioner

1802
02:31:55,450 --> 02:31:56,050
Ramirez.

1803
02:31:57,890 --> 02:31:58,810
Thank you.

1804
02:32:00,670 --> 02:32:05,650
Commissioner Cump, re-explain his idea.

1805
02:32:05,650 --> 02:32:10,250
I think I am tracking, but having little trouble following, sorry.

1806
02:32:11,550 --> 02:32:12,270
Mayor, Mayor.

1807
02:32:12,750 --> 02:32:12,990
Yes.

1808
02:32:13,310 --> 02:32:13,930
Commissioner Cump.

1809
02:32:14,050 --> 02:32:15,070
Come to it large.

1810
02:32:15,250 --> 02:32:16,130
So I just wanted to make sure.

1811
02:32:16,270 --> 02:32:16,630
You're good.

1812
02:32:17,030 --> 02:32:23,150
So the slide that we looked at from the projected forecast, if we don't raise a mill before we looked

1813
02:32:23,150 --> 02:32:29,290
that these adjustments was, we are dipping into the fund balance approximately 946,000.

1814
02:32:29,430 --> 02:32:33,770
With these adjustments, option two is what I'm talking about that are presented.

1815
02:32:34,430 --> 02:32:39,050
They cut the expenditures by 1,162,000.

1816
02:32:39,610 --> 02:32:53,130
My proposal is keep that cut, the 1,160,000, the difference between the 946, which is our

1817
02:32:53,130 --> 02:32:56,250
225, I'm not a math guy, I'm a numbers guy.

1818
02:32:56,890 --> 02:33:00,250
And take that difference and put it into the sci-fi fund.

1819
02:33:00,670 --> 02:33:05,350
It's not what we budgeted for initially, but it does fund sci-fi.

1820
02:33:05,430 --> 02:33:08,270
And some capacity is still while keeping the mills flat.

1821
02:33:08,810 --> 02:33:10,850
That's the essence of my proposal.

1822
02:33:12,710 --> 02:33:19,450
Commissioner, buying them first in states, so to that end,

1823
02:33:19,450 --> 02:33:31,480
And we would instead of finding 946,000 to cut, we'd cut all of these items to the tune

1824
02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:38,020
of 1.162 so that we can carry 216 to sci-fi.

1825
02:33:38,680 --> 02:33:44,660
And so I think you're to reiterate the cuts.

1826
02:33:46,500 --> 02:33:48,580
the reduction in sheriff's staff

1827
02:33:48,580 --> 02:33:51,660
being by $50,000.

1828
02:33:54,920 --> 02:33:56,180
I'm sorry, by 110.

1829
02:33:59,140 --> 02:33:59,640
And that's.

1830
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:01,740
And then that's the only one

1831
02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:03,300
that's giving me the most heartburn.

1832
02:34:03,700 --> 02:34:05,480
I really am kind of feeling strongly

1833
02:34:05,480 --> 02:34:07,520
about the sovereign replacement program,

1834
02:34:07,700 --> 02:34:12,840
but actually I do have a clarifying question for staff.

1835
02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:16,300
Is that a, that's not a reduction in current sheriff's staff.

1836
02:34:16,960 --> 02:34:19,600
That's a reduction in staffing increases.

1837
02:34:19,900 --> 02:34:20,340
Correct.

1838
02:34:20,740 --> 02:34:25,840
Yes, so we initially were going to unfree six positions and what this will be doing is

1839
02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:27,060
in freezing five percent.

1840
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:30,840
Okay, so it's one, it's the, it's the, it's the one future higher.

1841
02:34:31,380 --> 02:34:32,220
Okay, thank you.

1842
02:34:32,300 --> 02:34:35,380
And I want to clarify a bit, sure, because if we're talking about cutting current staff,

1843
02:34:35,380 --> 02:34:36,620
that will change my analysis.

1844
02:34:36,780 --> 02:34:37,540
No, that's important.

1845
02:34:37,540 --> 02:34:38,360
I appreciate it.

1846
02:34:38,700 --> 02:34:39,140
Thanks.

1847
02:34:44,930 --> 02:34:45,730
Oh, sorry.

1848
02:34:45,970 --> 02:34:46,890
Mr. Stites.

1849
02:34:48,390 --> 02:35:03,870
With the not having the desire, if that's what it was, to not reduce the 110, you have basically 216 if you went with Commissioner comes, if the desire was to not reduce share of that would take it down to 106.

1850
02:35:04,590 --> 02:35:11,870
And if that 106 was then allocated to sci-fi, here's how those numbers break down.

1851
02:35:11,870 --> 02:35:20,410
It's basically $53,000 to the city, $26,500 to Edwardsville and $26,500 to Bonna.

1852
02:35:20,930 --> 02:35:24,870
There you go, that way you know the numbers, what they are.

1853
02:35:26,250 --> 02:35:27,090
Thank you.

1854
02:35:27,350 --> 02:35:27,970
Commissioner Davis.

1855
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:32,160
I appreciate the conversation.

1856
02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:42,600
I think for sci-fi we should look at an equitable approach and just make sure that those numbers do line up so that the contributions of all cities are kind of equally distributed out.

1857
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:49,220
I don't think a 50% for Kansas City, Kansas would necessarily be equitable considering the

1858
02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:57,300
sales tax and general fund contribution of Kansas City, Kansas. And so that would be kind of my

1859
02:35:57,300 --> 02:36:05,060
comment on that if we go that route. The route that I was initially advocating for was to arrive at

1860
02:36:05,060 --> 02:36:14,420
that 946. Yes to the sheriff, we cash finance instead of debt finance, the radio cyber

1861
02:36:14,970 --> 02:36:24,080
replacement, and then we increase or decrease lease financing by 64,500 so that we are

1862
02:36:24,080 --> 02:36:30,540
using cash and not going into debt. We would cut inter-government relations positions

1863
02:36:30,540 --> 02:36:39,500
at $75,536K for the performance management, $400,000 for the adjustments for position management,

1864
02:36:39,780 --> 02:36:44,900
and the least financing that number would be $4,300, $500.

1865
02:36:45,140 --> 02:36:50,020
And that adds up to about $947,000, so we actually have $1,000 to spare.

1866
02:36:50,500 --> 02:36:56,900
I think this would be a better approach, less debt, and the share of gifts,

1867
02:36:56,900 --> 02:36:59,360
the positions that he needs for hiring.

1868
02:36:59,600 --> 02:37:00,700
That would be my vote, Mayor.

1869
02:37:10,640 --> 02:37:14,440
Okay, okay, I'm gonna let Commissioner Lopez go

1870
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:16,180
and then I have a comment.

1871
02:37:16,680 --> 02:37:17,280
Commissioner Lopez.

1872
02:37:20,340 --> 02:37:24,100
So, let me ask you, let me ask you this.

1873
02:37:25,700 --> 02:37:29,580
Like 500,000, the increased lease purchase financing

1874
02:37:29,580 --> 02:37:31,640
of emergency radios.

1875
02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:32,040
What,

1876
02:37:35,020 --> 02:37:39,600
I'm asking, I reached out to police and fire,

1877
02:37:39,600 --> 02:37:43,620
which are on the radios, both of nothing. They're great.

1878
02:37:46,120 --> 02:37:49,060
They're best on the market. So why are we increasing?

1879
02:37:54,470 --> 02:38:00,990
Jennifer, to our emergency management. So all of the radios, the emergency management department runs the radios.

1880
02:38:01,770 --> 02:38:08,270
And once left, we've cycled through, we worked the last three to four years on replacing all the handheld and mobile radios.

1881
02:38:08,270 --> 02:38:12,190
So what is primarily left are the mobile radios for the fire department.

1882
02:38:12,810 --> 02:38:20,970
So we are responsible for purchasing radios for police, fire, and sheriff's for Edward'sville,

1883
02:38:21,490 --> 02:38:24,270
Bonner, and KCK. So that's

1884
02:38:24,270 --> 02:38:29,990
kind of the tail end of what we need for replacement, and that would be the mobile radios for

1885
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:31,570
the fire departments.

1886
02:38:32,690 --> 02:38:40,610
So that's that's what I'm asking the fire department some firemen responding back to me. There's nothing wrong with the radios.

1887
02:38:41,310 --> 02:38:45,470
Well, the radios are handheld radios or their mobile radios all the above.

1888
02:38:46,170 --> 02:38:53,870
Well, I don't know how savvy they are with the radios because the technology is aging. So we're reaching end of life on those radios.

1889
02:38:53,870 --> 02:39:00,130
So this has been a years-long process, and it's the same way with the sirens and that

1890
02:39:00,130 --> 02:39:04,170
the tech, it's not just a replacement of hardware at this point, it's a replacement of technology.

1891
02:39:04,670 --> 02:39:10,390
And then with the radio, the infrastructure, the backhaul that we have to do, that is to

1892
02:39:10,390 --> 02:39:11,630
keep up with technology.

1893
02:39:12,510 --> 02:39:19,110
So they use the radio's day-to-day, but they work, and they may not understand the whole technology

1894
02:39:19,110 --> 02:39:20,950
and how they're reaching end-of-life.

1895
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:27,110
So they are reaching end of life and then with those when we purchase those we can there's

1896
02:39:27,110 --> 02:39:30,270
We work with a seller that we can get those

1897
02:39:31,090 --> 02:39:33,730
Sold used radio sold and get money back

1898
02:39:33,730 --> 02:39:36,750
So last year when our budget was cut for radios

1899
02:39:36,750 --> 02:39:40,910
We were able to take the handhelds that we had sold those and proceed

1900
02:39:40,910 --> 02:39:45,970
I think it was close to 300 thousand dollars put that money back in our budget to purchase more radios

1901
02:39:45,970 --> 02:39:47,810
So when we buy them with cash

1902
02:39:47,810 --> 02:39:51,230
how should we have them? We could do the same thing with the mobile radios as well.

1903
02:39:52,010 --> 02:39:59,570
All right. Thank you. Thank you. So I'm what I'm looking at is it's reaching is not the

1904
02:39:59,570 --> 02:40:04,970
at the end. So let's prolong it. This is push it off for the next budget and just

1905
02:40:04,970 --> 02:40:05,990
omit that completely.

1906
02:40:08,190 --> 02:40:12,590
Open what completely? The increased lease purchase

1907
02:40:12,590 --> 02:40:18,430
finance of the of the emergency. Okay. Or we can find a grant. Well, I'm just saying just

1908
02:40:18,430 --> 02:40:25,210
Oh, knit that completely. I mean, it's not it's not like dead in the water. Oh, so you're taking you're saying take it out. Yes.

1909
02:40:26,830 --> 02:40:32,390
And wait till next year. Yeah, why not? I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

1910
02:40:33,410 --> 02:40:39,350
And that's for the siren or the the the the the increase lease the increased lease purchase fine.

1911
02:40:39,470 --> 02:40:45,650
Well, that's that a half a million. So, knit that. Oh, it'll

1912
02:40:45,650 --> 02:40:52,750
Well, saying is it just puts a little bit back for us to work with and just push that for just I mean it's push it further out.

1913
02:40:52,750 --> 02:40:56,430
It's reaching the end. It's not saying it doesn't have to be an expense in this.

1914
02:40:56,590 --> 02:40:58,490
The next year's budget. Exactly.

1915
02:41:00,130 --> 02:41:03,690
Okay. Well, that's a twist. Well, I'm just.

1916
02:41:05,470 --> 02:41:09,150
I believe. Sorry, I don't have my button, but.

1917
02:41:09,150 --> 02:41:15,430
Oh, you don't have a budget, but okay, Commissioner Perchecco and then County Administrator.

1918
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:20,630
Well, okay, are you wanting to respond to him? Okay, go ahead.

1919
02:41:21,290 --> 02:41:27,790
And so my and Jennifer correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a multi-year project and it's

1920
02:41:28,430 --> 02:41:36,050
It's less about the handheld radios and more about the back hall. Right. No, no, no, I understand. Yeah, but at the end of the day

1921
02:41:36,690 --> 02:41:37,650
it's reaching

1922
02:41:38,330 --> 02:41:42,730
But it's not at the end of the, you know, they're still good, they're still good.

1923
02:41:44,130 --> 02:41:48,210
That'll give us time to have more money for next budget.

1924
02:41:48,750 --> 02:41:52,930
And then we can focus on that next budget on that expense.

1925
02:41:57,570 --> 02:42:03,310
And my understanding is with the last time when we talked about doing this multi-year program

1926
02:42:03,310 --> 02:42:07,670
is what came up with one of the commissioners I believe at the time that we had an incident

1927
02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:12,130
and with our first responders that were unable to communicate during a fire.

1928
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:14,730
So interoperability is very important.

1929
02:42:15,410 --> 02:42:19,830
And like I said, they could turn it on and hear things, but the technology is changing

1930
02:42:19,830 --> 02:42:23,650
and evolving, and there is an end of year of life on equipment.

1931
02:42:24,330 --> 02:42:29,130
And so I don't know that putting this off another year, as we're at the tail end of a multi-year

1932
02:42:29,130 --> 02:42:31,370
project, is what we want to do.

1933
02:42:31,370 --> 02:42:38,450
So I hear that, yeah, I think we should follow up with, okay, I appreciate it.

1934
02:42:38,910 --> 02:42:39,850
Thank you, Lopez.

1935
02:42:40,990 --> 02:42:41,930
Thank you, Mr. Pacheco.

1936
02:42:42,670 --> 02:42:44,690
Thank you, Mayor Pacheco District 5.

1937
02:42:44,690 --> 02:42:45,610
Sorry, Mr. Starwater.

1938
02:42:45,870 --> 02:42:46,910
I'm sorry to make you get up.

1939
02:42:47,150 --> 02:42:47,470
It's okay.

1940
02:42:48,450 --> 02:42:49,110
I appreciate you.

1941
02:42:50,130 --> 02:42:55,490
If I recall during one of our initial, your initial, maybe budget presentation to us.

1942
02:42:55,530 --> 02:42:58,310
It feels like forever ago, but probably it was only like a month ago or whatever.

1943
02:42:58,310 --> 02:43:08,110
but wasn't part of the issue also that Motorola requires us to, like, there is a requirement also,

1944
02:43:08,270 --> 02:43:13,510
right? Like, and then if not, then we pay not only, like, maybe some sort of a penalty,

1945
02:43:13,510 --> 02:43:19,610
if I recall? Well, it gets confusing because there's at the same time that we're replacing new

1946
02:43:19,610 --> 02:43:23,510
radios. And again, we've made our way all the way through the handheld, what's left

1947
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:25,150
after the mobile that go on their vehicles,

1948
02:43:25,410 --> 02:43:27,810
but they're also the infrastructure

1949
02:43:27,810 --> 02:43:30,110
that supports all of these radios.

1950
02:43:30,810 --> 02:43:34,170
So that is going end of life in 2029.

1951
02:43:34,790 --> 02:43:36,470
And that is a multi-million dollar,

1952
02:43:36,610 --> 02:43:38,450
very expensive endeavor,

1953
02:43:39,030 --> 02:43:41,630
but we are sort of out over a barrel with that.

1954
02:43:41,890 --> 02:43:42,910
We have to do it.

1955
02:43:43,150 --> 02:43:43,870
We have to do it,

1956
02:43:43,870 --> 02:43:46,670
or the radios will not talk to one another and work.

1957
02:43:47,290 --> 02:43:49,510
So we're working on that now with finance

1958
02:43:50,090 --> 02:43:52,450
and, but that's a separate project.

1959
02:43:52,450 --> 02:43:58,370
So they are both radio-related, but the back hall of the infrastructure is what we have to address,

1960
02:43:58,590 --> 02:44:03,530
as well as the replacement, finishing out these mobile radios for the fire departments.

1961
02:44:04,110 --> 02:44:09,830
Thank you. And I think I understand what Commissioner Lopez is getting to here. I mean, I get it.

1962
02:44:10,270 --> 02:44:15,090
It kind of goes back to my usual point. People have probably made me hear many times at this point,

1963
02:44:15,090 --> 02:44:19,330
but the cost to buy the radios next year will just go up. So if we delay something,

1964
02:44:19,330 --> 02:44:21,570
it's just going to go up for us next year or the year after that.

1965
02:44:22,070 --> 02:44:25,390
I mean, you can only delay something that's necessary for so long and then eventually

1966
02:44:25,390 --> 02:44:27,750
you have to pay for it and if you wait two years and it costs you more.

1967
02:44:29,330 --> 02:44:33,950
So, and in my personal opinion, I mean, I consider this part of our public safety, you know,

1968
02:44:33,990 --> 02:44:38,970
obviously it affects the people who are providing the service within that realm intimately.

1969
02:44:39,250 --> 02:44:44,710
So, this is not a part of the budget that I would personally want to tap into,

1970
02:44:45,130 --> 02:44:46,950
but I appreciate your clarity on the subject.

1971
02:44:48,310 --> 02:44:58,230
What, okay, so this is how I see this and the really what the amount on the

1972
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:59,650
the adjustment should be for me.

1973
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:15,420
Is because we have budgeted for more than the revenue that we have coming in, okay, which is why we are at a deficit of 946,000, 542.

1974
02:45:18,780 --> 02:45:31,780
So for me, we, we can't afford a new position. So those shouldn't even be on the page as far as I'm concerned on the adjustments that 755 and that 36,000 should not be on there.

1975
02:45:31,780 --> 02:45:39,840
So, if you just took the adjustments of the 110, the 50,000, the 400,000, and the 500,000,

1976
02:45:40,060 --> 02:45:45,220
you get a total of 1,060, okay?

1977
02:45:45,920 --> 02:45:53,780
Then you take that minus the 946, 542, which gives you 113, 458.

1978
02:45:54,740 --> 02:45:59,060
that way you get to keep the sheriff,

1979
02:46:02,360 --> 02:46:04,720
will you have right? Is that right?

1980
02:46:05,920 --> 02:46:10,820
I said that right. Okay, so then you have the balance of 1-13-48.

1981
02:46:14,220 --> 02:46:15,920
And then at 1-13-48,

1982
02:46:18,780 --> 02:46:20,040
you do what with

1983
02:46:23,140 --> 02:46:24,500
Commissioner Ramirez.

1984
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:34,180
Thank you, Mayor. We want to keep the 75,500 and the 36,000 for the two positions on there,

1985
02:46:34,180 --> 02:46:38,720
because it's saying we're not funding those at all so we want to keep those on

1986
02:46:38,720 --> 02:46:41,780
there. They shouldn't be on there as far as I'm concerned. We should add no

1987
02:46:41,780 --> 02:46:48,100
positions. We ain't got the money for. But okay, but that okay. So with Allen now

1988
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:52,720
or the administrator just taking that back into the share. Yeah taking out the

1989
02:46:52,720 --> 02:47:00,080
110 and now there's still that what was the is it 113? It was like 113 or some left

1990
02:47:00,080 --> 02:47:09,740
over that from those reduced, other three reductions, the 50, 400,000 or the 500,000 we can figure out where that 113 comes from.

1991
02:47:10,920 --> 02:47:21,310
Well, but that one million sixty included that 110. So, yeah, yeah, put it on screen.

1992
02:47:21,310 --> 02:47:24,410
115 500. 115 500.

1993
02:47:28,250 --> 02:47:29,890
Yeah, thank you.

1994
02:47:32,170 --> 02:47:33,090
There it is.

1995
02:47:33,090 --> 02:47:38,870
So now we have 1,500 and now we can decide if that goes back into the fund balance.

1996
02:47:39,010 --> 02:47:43,890
Does it go toward debt or does it go somewhere else?

1997
02:47:45,800 --> 02:47:46,920
What can it go to SAFA?

1998
02:47:51,630 --> 02:47:52,670
Commission of Pacheco.

1999
02:47:53,490 --> 02:47:54,810
Thank you, Mayor Pacheco.

2000
02:47:54,890 --> 02:47:55,550
District five.

2001
02:47:55,970 --> 02:48:05,550
I would just like to also ask staff by limiting to only to a flat mill levied by limiting

2002
02:48:05,550 --> 02:48:07,230
ourselves to a flat mill levied.

2003
02:48:07,230 --> 02:48:11,570
what does that do to the plan for the safer grants

2004
02:48:11,570 --> 02:48:13,870
and how they would roll off within a couple of years?

2005
02:48:16,470 --> 02:48:20,930
We would have 12 positions that we would be placing

2006
02:48:21,490 --> 02:48:23,410
that we have in this budget.

2007
02:48:24,810 --> 02:48:25,070
Okay.

2008
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:26,690
And we're calling from County.

2009
02:48:26,750 --> 02:48:27,350
I apologize.

2010
02:48:27,510 --> 02:48:29,330
We've got multiple city county things on here.

2011
02:48:29,430 --> 02:48:29,970
So I apologize.

2012
02:48:30,130 --> 02:48:30,650
I'm comprised.

2013
02:48:30,910 --> 02:48:31,110
Yes.

2014
02:48:31,970 --> 02:48:32,410
Okay.

2015
02:48:33,050 --> 02:48:33,630
Thank you.

2016
02:48:33,670 --> 02:48:34,150
I appreciate that.

2017
02:48:37,120 --> 02:48:37,480
Okay.

2018
02:48:37,680 --> 02:48:39,280
So now that we have the new numbers up there,

2019
02:48:39,280 --> 02:48:41,380
Where do we put the one 155?

2020
02:48:44,280 --> 02:48:49,700
What's the recommendation? SiPi, fund balance, debt,

2021
02:48:55,570 --> 02:48:56,450
keep in

2022
02:48:56,450 --> 02:49:03,650
mind that the option two already includes the revenue from the DMV so you can

2023
02:49:03,650 --> 02:49:04,790
take option three off.

2024
02:49:07,330 --> 02:49:09,410
And you can take option four off.

2025
02:49:15,640 --> 02:49:16,840
Well I take the

2026
02:49:16,840 --> 02:49:22,640
that unless y'all want to do the half a meal route.

2027
02:49:25,780 --> 02:49:29,080
So if option 4 becomes option 3. Can

2028
02:49:29,080 --> 02:49:30,640
it? Is that right, Ridge?

2029
02:49:32,780 --> 02:49:41,600
Option 4 can become option 3 now. Yes. Okay. Commission

2030
02:49:41,600 --> 02:49:42,480
So

2031
02:49:45,300 --> 02:50:03,440
the $1,500 is that just money we have with the figure to go or is that $1,500 of more expenses we need to find reductions in money we have?

2032
02:50:03,460 --> 02:50:03,640
Okay.

2033
02:50:04,060 --> 02:50:04,880
Thank you.

2034
02:50:14,960 --> 02:50:16,020
Commissioner Hill.

2035
02:50:17,380 --> 02:50:19,880
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2036
02:50:20,280 --> 02:50:22,000
I just want to go back to

2037
02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:26,220
something Commissioner Crump mentioned earlier suggestion.

2038
02:50:26,840 --> 02:50:29,560
And since we've kind of rearranged the whole.

2039
02:50:30,840 --> 02:50:33,860
Budget now, when it comes to sci fi.

2040
02:50:34,620 --> 02:50:39,440
That one hundred and fifteen thousand five hundred is this an

2041
02:50:39,440 --> 02:50:41,400
opportunity where we could.

2042
02:50:42,180 --> 02:50:44,140
Apply that to sci fi or no.

2043
02:50:44,140 --> 02:50:44,760
Yes.

2044
02:50:47,810 --> 02:50:50,130
Right? Yes, we can. Okay.

2045
02:50:52,410 --> 02:51:00,110
And just so you have those numbers that would be, if you divided it up at the 50, 25, 25, that would be, sorry, I didn't get recognized.

2046
02:51:00,630 --> 02:51:02,990
That's quite a right, Mr. Sites. Do you have the floor?

2047
02:51:04,190 --> 02:51:15,310
It's basically 58, 57, 750 to KCK if you want with the 50 and 28, 8 to each bonner and 28, 8 to Edwardsville.

2048
02:51:15,310 --> 02:51:25,630
So one thing that I would add to, and I understand the, I think I understood what Commissioner

2049
02:51:25,630 --> 02:51:31,370
Davis was saying about the, if, am I right and tell me if I'm wrong, did you, you don't

2050
02:51:31,370 --> 02:51:35,810
think that the 50, 25, 25 is equitable, is that what we were saying?

2051
02:51:36,070 --> 02:51:43,690
Yeah, I think if we were to look at contributions to the general fund that Kansas City, Kansas

2052
02:51:43,690 --> 02:51:46,210
is just contributing more than 50%.

2053
02:51:46,210 --> 02:51:47,670
That's the way that I see it,

2054
02:51:47,930 --> 02:51:50,210
unless there's another formula, so all right.

2055
02:51:50,310 --> 02:51:51,470
Yeah, and that's not ever,

2056
02:51:51,790 --> 02:51:54,050
that's not how it was set up originally.

2057
02:51:54,570 --> 02:51:56,830
It was set up by lane miles.

2058
02:51:57,870 --> 02:51:59,890
Okay, so that it had an impact

2059
02:51:59,890 --> 02:52:02,430
because sci-fi was originally set up

2060
02:52:02,430 --> 02:52:07,050
for to do infrastructure repairs.

2061
02:52:07,530 --> 02:52:08,730
Okay, so it's by lane miles.

2062
02:52:08,890 --> 02:52:11,730
Right, and then if you think about the contributions

2063
02:52:11,730 --> 02:52:32,250
that on the county side, I would venture to say that primarily most of the county functions occur in KCK versus going back to what you were saying most of the county functions occur within KCK versus Bonner and it's still awesome. That's all. Thank you.

2064
02:52:33,310 --> 02:52:33,970
Welcome.

2065
02:52:36,130 --> 02:52:38,990
Mayor, a clarification. Yes, Dr. Kinneven.

2066
02:52:39,350 --> 02:52:44,830
So we gave a presentation to one of the committees and Commissioner Sites is right that

2067
02:52:44,830 --> 02:52:50,190
originally what was proposed was based on lane miles, but the last time sci fi was approved

2068
02:52:50,190 --> 02:52:58,430
the commission changed the formula. The 50%, 25% and 25% is not mathematically based on lane

2069
02:52:58,430 --> 02:53:03,090
miles and I think for tonight what we'd be looking for is do you want to put

2070
02:53:03,090 --> 02:53:07,930
funding towards sci-fi and then we can have a further discussion because it

2071
02:53:07,930 --> 02:53:11,930
wouldn't be until January that we would be distributed and then we can have a

2072
02:53:11,930 --> 02:53:16,170
discussion about what the formula should be or it and it could be in lesser's

2073
02:53:16,170 --> 02:53:20,090
already consensus on the formula but there's time for that discussion that's all

2074
02:53:20,990 --> 02:53:24,570
okay commissioners died and I do want to add because I don't I don't want to take

2075
02:53:24,570 --> 02:53:30,250
away from our friends and family that live at Lake Rivera. They also get a

2076
02:53:30,250 --> 02:53:36,230
portion of that. They sure do. Okay, so we can discuss how that's distributed

2077
02:53:36,230 --> 02:53:43,450
later. Now, the question is, I need a motion on which option you all are going

2078
02:53:43,450 --> 02:53:54,460
to choose. Option one, option two, or option three, and on option two, four is

2079
02:53:54,460 --> 02:53:54,940
three now.

2080
02:53:59,230 --> 02:54:04,550
I should force option three now. And we might as well have that.

2081
02:54:04,570 --> 02:54:05,750
It's revenue neutral.

2082
02:54:07,830 --> 02:54:12,230
Okay. Commissioner, buy them. And then Commissioner

2083
02:54:12,230 --> 02:54:16,790
Ramirez. Commissioner, buy them. Thanks. I'm on the option that we're looking at

2084
02:54:16,790 --> 02:54:26,730
with the reduction target of the 946,000. If it's leaving 115 five as a remainder,

2085
02:54:27,550 --> 02:54:33,290
Why don't we just put it back into the reduction target?

2086
02:54:34,770 --> 02:54:36,930
And then we have to find less.

2087
02:54:38,210 --> 02:54:39,790
Am I right or wrong?

2088
02:54:44,030 --> 02:54:46,090
Why can't we make the reduction target?

2089
02:54:47,330 --> 02:54:51,270
946,000 minus 115,500.

2090
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:53,610
You could, you could.

2091
02:54:53,710 --> 02:54:54,530
That was another option.

2092
02:54:54,530 --> 02:54:59,350
I'm just making the adjustments moving the adjustments on the in column.

2093
02:54:59,350 --> 02:55:04,550
So if you added 115 back in across these, you would that would achieve the same result.

2094
02:55:06,810 --> 02:55:13,080
What you're suggesting using the 115 five.

2095
02:55:13,900 --> 02:55:22,740
And so using that to on the reduction target would mean doing less reductions in the adjustments.

2096
02:55:22,740 --> 02:55:35,500
So they're adding, you know, not taking 50 out of the sirens and doing that and doing I see and leaving the the base reduction at the 946, the 946 is a fixed number.

2097
02:55:35,660 --> 02:55:37,100
Gotcha. Okay. Thanks.

2098
02:55:39,690 --> 02:55:41,710
You're welcome. Commissioner Ramirez.

2099
02:55:44,680 --> 02:55:45,560
Thank you, Mary.

2100
02:55:47,360 --> 02:55:48,180
I'm ready.

2101
02:55:48,820 --> 02:55:51,240
Just make a motion. Please go from there.

2102
02:55:51,240 --> 02:55:53,020
where it goes.

2103
02:55:55,060 --> 02:56:00,860
I move to approve option B as presented on the screen. Option two.

2104
02:56:01,180 --> 02:56:08,120
Option two. Sorry. Sorry. Using option two as presented on screen and using the remaining

2105
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:18,340
115 500 for sci-fi with us to decide at a later date. A new formula for sci-fi. Okay.

2106
02:56:18,340 --> 02:56:21,980
before I get a second, Commissioner Bynum has a question.

2107
02:56:22,320 --> 02:56:22,900
Commissioner Bynum.

2108
02:56:23,160 --> 02:56:23,500
Thank you.

2109
02:56:23,600 --> 02:56:29,980
I'm just trying to clarify that option two means zero millivian crease.

2110
02:56:30,260 --> 02:56:30,560
Correct.

2111
02:56:31,280 --> 02:56:31,520
Correct.

2112
02:56:32,280 --> 02:56:34,660
No half a mill for any of that.

2113
02:56:35,120 --> 02:56:35,380
No.

2114
02:56:35,460 --> 02:56:37,060
No half a mill for sci-fi.

2115
02:56:37,420 --> 02:56:37,940
No milling crease.

2116
02:56:37,940 --> 02:56:39,460
Zero mill increase.

2117
02:56:39,860 --> 02:56:40,320
Thank you.

2118
02:56:41,140 --> 02:56:41,700
You're welcome.

2119
02:56:42,380 --> 02:56:48,120
Can I get a second for option two with a new number leaving

2120
02:56:48,120 --> 02:56:51,860
have been a balance of 115-5 to be dedicated to sci-fi.

2121
02:56:54,230 --> 02:56:56,990
Do it. Can I get a second hour second?

2122
02:56:57,970 --> 02:57:03,390
Okay, it's been moved by Commissioner Ramirez and his second by Howard.

2123
02:57:03,810 --> 02:57:04,670
Roll call, please.

2124
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:06,270
Roll call, Ramirez.

2125
02:57:06,650 --> 02:57:06,810
Aye.

2126
02:57:07,370 --> 02:57:07,610
Hill.

2127
02:57:08,330 --> 02:57:08,970
Pacheco.

2128
02:57:09,230 --> 02:57:09,430
No.

2129
02:57:09,910 --> 02:57:10,550
Lopez.

2130
02:57:10,870 --> 02:57:11,030
No.

2131
02:57:11,490 --> 02:57:12,130
Stites.

2132
02:57:12,210 --> 02:57:12,370
No.

2133
02:57:12,850 --> 02:57:13,470
Davis.

2134
02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:15,190
No.

2135
02:57:15,190 --> 02:57:15,230
No.

2136
02:57:15,850 --> 02:57:16,750
Fine them.

2137
02:57:17,430 --> 02:57:17,770
Aye.

2138
02:57:18,570 --> 02:57:19,110
Come.

2139
02:57:19,390 --> 02:57:19,650
No.

2140
02:57:20,350 --> 02:57:20,810
Howard.

2141
02:57:21,490 --> 02:57:22,110
Aye.

2142
02:57:22,790 --> 02:57:23,310
Burns.

2143
02:57:23,450 --> 02:57:23,610
No.

2144
02:57:24,270 --> 02:57:25,590
The vote is 46.

2145
02:57:25,790 --> 02:57:26,370
The motion fails.

2146
02:57:26,730 --> 02:57:27,070
Okay.

2147
02:57:27,430 --> 02:57:31,630
So now we know that the 115 is not going to sci fi.

2148
02:57:31,990 --> 02:57:32,910
Where is it going?

2149
02:57:40,120 --> 02:57:42,680
There's a possibility it could go just go to fund balance.

2150
02:57:43,020 --> 02:57:44,900
It could go back into the fund balance.

2151
02:57:45,280 --> 02:57:46,540
That's a wonderful idea.

2152
02:57:54,080 --> 02:57:54,360
Yes.

2153
02:57:54,680 --> 02:57:55,420
Commissioner Davis.

2154
02:57:55,420 --> 02:57:57,300
and then Commissioner Ramirez.

2155
02:57:58,160 --> 02:58:01,260
Yeah, I would prefer fund balance

2156
02:58:01,260 --> 02:58:05,840
or we just reduce what is on there.

2157
02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:08,500
That is my reason for my voting.

2158
02:58:08,900 --> 02:58:12,620
No, it's just let's figure out what we have before adding more.

2159
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:14,620
I would be curious to hear from my colleagues

2160
02:58:14,620 --> 02:58:16,380
if they care to explain why they voted no.

2161
02:58:20,180 --> 02:58:21,020
Commissioner Ramirez.

2162
02:58:22,080 --> 02:58:22,420
Thank you, Mayor.

2163
02:58:24,600 --> 02:58:27,460
I'm okay with going to fund balance.

2164
02:58:27,460 --> 02:58:31,420
that helps us to help us build our fund balance just a little bit more.

2165
02:58:31,460 --> 02:58:33,040
It's not going to fix the problem obviously.

2166
02:58:33,620 --> 02:58:37,120
But it's a drop in the bucket that can help us get there a little bit quicker.

2167
02:58:37,920 --> 02:58:45,620
So I'm not opposed to this for it going to fund balance or using that to find other.

2168
02:58:45,940 --> 02:58:47,040
Okay, which one?

2169
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:51,020
I would support fund balance.

2170
02:58:51,940 --> 02:58:52,420
Okay.

2171
02:58:52,840 --> 02:58:53,820
I'll second that motion.

2172
02:58:54,640 --> 02:58:55,120
Okay.

2173
02:58:57,380 --> 02:59:08,760
Okay, move to approve option two as presented on the screen and using the remaining 115 500 to go to fund balance.

2174
02:59:08,940 --> 02:59:15,600
Okay, it's been moved by Ramirez and second by Davis roll call, please roll call.

2175
02:59:15,600 --> 02:59:24,640
Ramirez. Aye. Hill, Pacheco. No. Lopez. No. Stites. Davis. Aye.

2176
02:59:25,120 --> 02:59:29,380
Bynum. Aye. Tom. No. Howard.

2177
02:59:31,640 --> 02:59:35,060
Burns. No. The vote is 4 to 6 motion fails.

2178
02:59:35,880 --> 02:59:41,460
Okay. So now the last one is that it goes into one of the items.

2179
02:59:43,690 --> 02:59:48,270
Merimic emotion for option two is present in our packet to cut one million one hundred

2180
02:59:48,270 --> 02:59:51,210
six two thousand and the remaining two sixteen goes to sci-fi.

2181
02:59:52,670 --> 02:59:54,070
Okay, can I get a second?

2182
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:59,970
I have a question, Commissioner Biden will come back.

2183
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:08,280
I helped answer that question because I was hoping to hear a motion from one of the no votes of what they wanted.

2184
03:00:11,020 --> 03:00:16,560
Okay, can I get a second? Mayor, if he can clarify his motion to 225.

2185
03:00:18,800 --> 03:00:33,080
Yeah, 225. Then the 225 to do it again. Okay, I think a motion for option to as presented in our paperwork. To cut one million.

2186
03:00:33,080 --> 03:00:37,440
and 162,000 and the remaining 225,000 goes to sci-fi.

2187
03:00:38,290 --> 03:00:39,620
Well, I had presented earlier.

2188
03:00:39,980 --> 03:00:40,740
Howard, second.

2189
03:00:43,020 --> 03:00:45,760
Okay, this has been moved by

2190
03:00:46,920 --> 03:00:49,520
come and second by the check-o.

2191
03:00:49,800 --> 03:00:50,400
Howard, Howard.

2192
03:00:50,460 --> 03:00:51,980
I'm sorry, Howard, sorry.

2193
03:00:53,320 --> 03:00:54,360
Roll call, please.

2194
03:00:54,840 --> 03:00:55,180
Roll call.

2195
03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:57,140
Wait, I got a question.

2196
03:00:57,480 --> 03:00:58,500
Commissioner Hill.

2197
03:01:01,650 --> 03:01:04,830
Hill, this is for thank you, Madam Mayor.

2198
03:01:04,830 --> 03:01:11,450
here. Commissioner Crump helped me to understand why you preferred this over the other one over

2199
03:01:11,450 --> 03:01:20,830
the one we just voted on with the 946. You're saying keep it at 6 at 1162. Yes. So just

2200
03:01:20,830 --> 03:01:28,710
explain to me. Yeah, I mean either way this is one thing. Sure. Sure. Either way we're not

2201
03:01:28,710 --> 03:01:35,230
increase in the meal. Right. Right. So I just need to know and I want our constituents to know

2202
03:01:36,070 --> 03:01:43,370
why is this something you would prefer? Sure. Happy to. So with this proposal, it

2203
03:01:44,070 --> 03:01:48,730
does the adjustments as proposed in our paper here, not the ones on the screen, but the ones we got

2204
03:01:48,730 --> 03:01:55,090
in our packet, which includes the reduction to increasing the frozen sheriff from six to five

2205
03:01:55,090 --> 03:02:02,770
positions and that gives us an after balance and after break even balance of 225,000 and I want

2206
03:02:02,770 --> 03:02:10,470
that 225,000 for sci-fi instead of the I think the last mission was one 15-ish. That's the difference.

2207
03:02:10,770 --> 03:02:17,710
So your focus was really sci-fi here. Yeah. Funding that better. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. And I know we

2208
03:02:17,710 --> 03:02:23,970
can discuss how it's allocated later but that's my focus. Yeah. Thank you. I just want to say one thing

2209
03:02:23,970 --> 03:02:30,910
in that. So you are okay with proposing to create two new positions, but now canceling them out.

2210
03:02:33,260 --> 03:02:37,340
Because the inter-government relations and the performance management positions are newly

2211
03:02:37,340 --> 03:02:42,220
created positions. This what we're looking at is just the adjustments from the proposed 27 budget.

2212
03:02:42,680 --> 03:02:47,340
So those positions that are removed are removed from the budget we've been presented. So they're

2213
03:02:47,340 --> 03:02:54,320
don't exist and my proposal is that they won't exist either. This is just this adjustments in relation

2214
03:02:54,320 --> 03:02:56,760
to what we've been proposed previously.

2215
03:02:57,400 --> 03:02:57,900
Okay.

2216
03:02:59,060 --> 03:03:00,420
Commissioner Stites.

2217
03:03:01,520 --> 03:03:23,240
Stites District 7, I think that if, and I'm not saying which I all vote or not, but I think what I would be more palatable to some that would probably say, find the $110,000 amongst the other line items and option B that would then fully fund the sheriff's department.

2218
03:03:25,700 --> 03:03:32,940
the request. But if you take, I mean, you've got, yeah, which view you would take

2219
03:03:32,940 --> 03:03:37,120
out those other two positions because that equals a hundred and ten five.

2220
03:03:51,920 --> 03:03:58,560
But also, if we were to be able to push off the radios again for one year, it's a million

2221
03:03:58,560 --> 03:03:58,960
dollars.

2222
03:04:02,600 --> 03:04:06,200
That's all. Are we taking a big risk when we do that?

2223
03:04:08,410 --> 03:04:10,050
I mean, we weren't expecting

2224
03:04:10,050 --> 03:04:11,570
in a microverse in the summer?

2225
03:04:14,680 --> 03:04:16,860
Mayor, to support what Jennifer said, Shelley,

2226
03:04:17,120 --> 03:04:20,520
can even CFO, it's a bigger project.

2227
03:04:21,420 --> 03:04:24,180
And we have to replace, we don't have a choice

2228
03:04:24,180 --> 03:04:25,580
on the back end of the system.

2229
03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:26,800
We've met with Motorola.

2230
03:04:27,320 --> 03:04:29,880
The system will shut down in 29.

2231
03:04:30,780 --> 03:04:32,760
And this relates to that.

2232
03:04:33,160 --> 03:04:35,400
I think Jennifer was responding mostly to.

2233
03:04:36,060 --> 03:04:38,760
Commissioner Lopez, you said the radio seemed to work fine.

2234
03:04:39,020 --> 03:04:40,180
And why is that?

2235
03:04:40,180 --> 03:04:50,660
And so she was explaining a little bit more, but these dollars are very much related to release financing that hole back in. It's like a $14 million dollar project.

2236
03:04:51,140 --> 03:04:58,060
And we have to finance it over a period of years. So the question in front of you is we because we also have a debt strategy.

2237
03:04:58,060 --> 03:05:04,380
instead of lease financing we were going to put as much cash towards that big

2238
03:05:04,380 --> 03:05:08,280
project as we could and then lease finance the rest so it'll hit our budget

2239
03:05:08,280 --> 03:05:16,760
every year okay and what you're discussing is that you will or won't do this

2240
03:05:16,760 --> 03:05:22,720
amount of money towards cash but either way we've got to do the expenditures we can

2241
03:05:22,720 --> 03:05:27,960
either reduce the amount in cash and do the lease purchase but we have to buy

2242
03:05:27,960 --> 03:05:31,220
it and get it implemented by 29 because that's a similar shutdown.

2243
03:05:33,850 --> 03:05:45,130
And I don't know if you want to go further deeper Jennifer knows my other saying is just put it off one more year so we have to do it next year because next year will be will be playing for 2028.

2244
03:05:45,890 --> 03:05:54,290
Just offer additional, so in the earlier option, if you all had not approved the DMV, one

2245
03:05:54,290 --> 03:06:00,370
of the savings, which was about 400,000, was to just additionally do more lease purchase

2246
03:06:00,370 --> 03:06:03,690
on those radios, so use debt more, less cash.

2247
03:06:04,390 --> 03:06:12,270
So, Mr. Sites, to your point, it is possible that we could use more lease financing tool

2248
03:06:12,270 --> 03:06:19,850
on the radio purchase and that would just play this in real-time here.

2249
03:06:22,750 --> 03:06:23,270
Reduce

2250
03:06:23,270 --> 03:06:24,730
that, the

2251
03:06:30,240 --> 03:06:33,640
Sheriff one, and then increase the amount that we're doing on at least

2252
03:06:33,640 --> 03:06:37,980
financing on the radios to offset that. Does that make sense?

2253
03:06:42,360 --> 03:06:43,960
I'd like to hear more about that.

2254
03:06:45,260 --> 03:06:47,720
I mean, if that's an option, I'd rather...

2255
03:06:47,720 --> 03:06:53,700
didn't that far. I'd rather explore that and then fund the share of fully. I think that's kind

2256
03:06:53,700 --> 03:07:00,920
of the. We are fund in the share. Not in my motion. We're not. I know yours. Yeah. So I'll withdraw my motion.

2257
03:07:01,200 --> 03:07:09,520
Thank you. Clark. Got it. Okay. Commissioner Davis. Okay. So I want to preface before I make my

2258
03:07:09,520 --> 03:07:16,440
motion. So no mill levy increase. No mill. That is no mill increase. Okay. I think there's

2259
03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:22,480
majority. Okay. That's a big one. Okay. No male heavy increase heard loud and clear.

2260
03:07:23,220 --> 03:07:33,300
The $110,000 for the sheriff is added. Right. So it's gone. Keep it gone. The radio site,

2261
03:07:33,320 --> 03:07:40,800
yeah, this is basically what's up here. The radios are not funded by debt. They are funded by cash,

2262
03:07:41,120 --> 03:07:45,620
that 50,000 is cash. We don't take up debt. Everything else we reduce.

2263
03:07:46,840 --> 03:07:48,740
That would be my motion.

2264
03:07:49,840 --> 03:07:52,320
No male heavy increase, yes to the sheriff,

2265
03:07:52,860 --> 03:07:55,440
yes to the radio, siren replacement using cash,

2266
03:07:55,660 --> 03:07:57,380
everything else we cut.

2267
03:07:57,740 --> 03:07:58,340
That's my motion.

2268
03:07:58,940 --> 03:08:01,420
Is this reflect your motion, Commissioner?

2269
03:08:02,080 --> 03:08:04,680
Yes, yes, that does reflect my motion.

2270
03:08:06,930 --> 03:08:08,090
Commissioner Pacheco.

2271
03:08:08,610 --> 03:08:10,070
Thank you, Mayor Pacheco, District five.

2272
03:08:10,290 --> 03:08:12,270
And then just for clarity, Commissioner Davis,

2273
03:08:12,550 --> 03:08:16,370
then what we're saying on the emergency radio funding,

2274
03:08:16,370 --> 03:08:18,290
We're still fully funding it.

2275
03:08:18,350 --> 03:08:23,950
We're just saying that we're using leasing, more leasing instead of cash to do it.

2276
03:08:24,890 --> 03:08:26,050
That's how you understand it.

2277
03:08:26,570 --> 03:08:27,270
Yes, yes.

2278
03:08:27,330 --> 03:08:28,450
You're talking about that $500,000.

2279
03:08:29,110 --> 03:08:29,230
Correct.

2280
03:08:29,450 --> 03:08:29,950
Yes, yes.

2281
03:08:30,010 --> 03:08:31,230
That would remain.

2282
03:08:31,390 --> 03:08:36,090
Which does not affect our ability to purchase the emergency radios which are important to our public safety personnel.

2283
03:08:36,310 --> 03:08:41,450
It does not because it just means we're not using cash the fund they were using them.

2284
03:08:41,650 --> 03:08:42,070
Very good.

2285
03:08:42,230 --> 03:08:42,730
I appreciate that.

2286
03:08:43,270 --> 03:08:43,890
I would second.

2287
03:08:44,490 --> 03:08:45,350
Did you make a motion?

2288
03:08:45,350 --> 03:09:15,090
Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Okay, I have a question. Commissioner Hill and then Commissioner comp. Oh, no, Commissioner Hill. Yes, Commissioner Hill. Thank you, Madam Mayor and Hill District for Commissioner. I'm just trying to find out this. Make sure I understand you said cut everything else that that mean cut sci-fi or no. So in this scenario sci-fi would not be included and that means according to your motion. Yes, I was not included.

2289
03:09:15,090 --> 03:09:24,270
If I would not be included, is there a bet there should be a balance if I'm not mistaken now at the bottom, right?

2290
03:09:24,790 --> 03:09:41,510
This is the reduction target is 946 524 542. Sure. Okay. So yes, sci-fi would not be included just because we wouldn't be able to afford it. We're not we can't cut something that we currently are not doing or did not have dollars to fund.

2291
03:09:41,510 --> 03:09:45,750
And so that's why sci-fi would not be included for this motion unfortunately.

2292
03:09:53,300 --> 03:09:53,880
Okay.

2293
03:09:54,140 --> 03:09:58,240
So it's been moved by Davis and second by who?

2294
03:09:59,440 --> 03:10:00,020
Pacheco.

2295
03:10:00,300 --> 03:10:01,540
Roll call plea.

2296
03:10:01,800 --> 03:10:01,900
Oh.

2297
03:10:03,990 --> 03:10:04,570
Stites.

2298
03:10:04,650 --> 03:10:06,130
Does in that motion.

2299
03:10:06,430 --> 03:10:07,250
Does that still.

2300
03:10:07,950 --> 03:10:10,770
And I'm thinking it is because it's still left up here.

2301
03:10:10,910 --> 03:10:14,610
The 75 five and the 36 for the two positions.

2302
03:10:14,750 --> 03:10:16,690
That's still in your motion to fund.

2303
03:10:17,170 --> 03:10:17,330
No.

2304
03:10:17,330 --> 03:10:22,870
No, they're gone all of that is all of that is is subtracted so it's not funding at all correct

2305
03:10:24,050 --> 03:10:25,030
Those are reductions

2306
03:10:27,570 --> 03:10:33,790
But it's still funded the sheriff's department yes, yes, okay. I guess I just want to be I just wanted to be

2307
03:10:33,790 --> 03:10:40,770
With no really clear before I yeah, it's funding the sheriff and it's funding the siren replacements and

2308
03:10:45,030 --> 03:10:46,210
they reduced the

2309
03:10:47,490 --> 03:10:50,830
Emergency radios from a half a million to four thirty four five

2310
03:10:54,850 --> 03:11:01,610
All right, so we have a motion or option two as it is presented on the screen.

2311
03:11:04,870 --> 03:11:07,910
It's been moved by Davis and second by the check.

2312
03:11:08,090 --> 03:11:10,830
Oh, roll call, please roll call, Ramirez.

2313
03:11:12,680 --> 03:11:14,520
I hill.

2314
03:11:15,360 --> 03:11:17,780
I check the check.

2315
03:11:18,020 --> 03:11:20,000
Oh, I opus.

2316
03:11:20,180 --> 03:11:20,320
I.

2317
03:11:21,300 --> 03:11:21,940
Stites.

2318
03:11:22,020 --> 03:11:22,180
No.

2319
03:11:22,880 --> 03:11:23,520
Davis.

2320
03:11:23,820 --> 03:11:24,000
I.

2321
03:11:24,780 --> 03:11:25,420
Finems.

2322
03:11:25,620 --> 03:11:25,780
I.

2323
03:11:26,160 --> 03:11:26,740
Come.

2324
03:11:27,060 --> 03:11:27,240
Nope.

2325
03:11:27,860 --> 03:11:28,500
Howard.

2326
03:11:28,500 --> 03:11:34,280
I burn so the voter 73 the motion carries.

2327
03:11:36,380 --> 03:11:39,160
All right we've got a county budget.

2328
03:11:41,360 --> 03:11:44,360
Right now we're going to move on to the city.

2329
03:11:51,560 --> 03:11:56,300
All right okay. I'll just kind of open this up here

2330
03:11:56,300 --> 03:12:04,820
kind of a similar structure on the city side where zoom in here a little bit. There's

2331
03:12:04,820 --> 03:12:34,760
The original option as proposed, which added a mill to the city general fund, I think there was broad agreement that was not the preferred option option to does not add a mill to the city general fund and these are suggested adjustments that reach the reduction target of one mill on the city general fund, which is $2,504,500 the other option related to.

2332
03:12:34,820 --> 03:12:43,060
to no mill increase is similar except it uses $1 million in fund balance and makes a

2333
03:12:43,060 --> 03:12:52,340
series of reductions that would total that same $2 million, $54,500 to achieve a balanced

2334
03:12:52,340 --> 03:12:52,780
budget.

2335
03:13:13,960 --> 03:13:14,340
Okay.

2336
03:13:14,440 --> 03:13:15,320
Commissioner Ramirez.

2337
03:13:15,640 --> 03:13:24,720
But before we get into the city, I need to refer to the legal for clarification and for

2338
03:13:24,720 --> 03:13:31,360
us to do this appropriately. Thank you Mayor. The Commission chose the option with that but they

2339
03:13:31,360 --> 03:13:40,180
didn't adopt the the rest of the budget or the amended budget so if they could do the if someone

2340
03:13:40,180 --> 03:13:49,580
could the amended 26 adopt the 2027 with the revisions also noted. So what we did was we

2341
03:13:52,670 --> 03:13:55,850
So can you tell me what the language should be for us to do?

2342
03:13:57,330 --> 03:14:03,030
Well, we're adopted, we need to adopt, I need a motion to adopt the 2026 amended budget.

2343
03:14:03,910 --> 03:14:10,410
And you can do it as, you could do it as one, the proposed motion for adoption would be to adopt

2344
03:14:10,410 --> 03:14:26,090
As stated in the resolution, the amended 2026 budget and the 2027 budget as amended with adoption to or wind at county.

2345
03:14:27,450 --> 03:14:29,010
And someone could just adopt that proposal.

2346
03:14:29,550 --> 03:14:30,310
Okay, I need a motion.

2347
03:14:31,870 --> 03:14:42,930
Okay, so it's been moved by Ramirez and second by Davis as stated from our legal counsel to adopt

2348
03:14:42,930 --> 03:14:53,370
a resolution to amend 2026 and adopt 2027 but for the county, roll call please for the county,

2349
03:14:53,370 --> 03:14:54,790
roll call please.

2350
03:14:55,030 --> 03:14:55,350
Roll call.

2351
03:14:55,630 --> 03:14:56,150
Ramirez.

2352
03:14:56,570 --> 03:14:57,510
As an option to.

2353
03:14:57,750 --> 03:14:58,010
Hill.

2354
03:14:58,930 --> 03:14:59,450
Pacheco.

2355
03:15:00,050 --> 03:15:00,810
Aye. Lopez.

2356
03:15:02,940 --> 03:15:07,440
Aye. Dights. No. Davis. Aye.

2357
03:15:07,800 --> 03:15:16,040
Bynum. Aye. Com. No. Howard. Aye. Burns. No. The vote is 7 to 3, the motion carries. Thank you.

2358
03:15:16,320 --> 03:15:16,840
Ramirez.

2359
03:15:19,250 --> 03:15:25,890
Thank you, Mayor. Going to the fashion of what we were just doing, what is on the city side?

2360
03:15:26,010 --> 03:15:28,550
What is the deficit between expenses and revenue?

2361
03:15:31,180 --> 03:15:36,800
Reginald Liz, the Unified Government Budget Director is $1,971,234.

2362
03:15:38,400 --> 03:15:40,040
Say that one more time.

2363
03:15:42,020 --> 03:15:43,600
$1,971,234.

2364
03:15:45,820 --> 03:15:46,380
Okay.

2365
03:15:49,120 --> 03:15:51,800
And again, I think we should, that should be our starting point.

2366
03:15:58,340 --> 03:16:07,120
And what would be the difference between the two of five four, if not here on the screen?

2367
03:16:07,200 --> 03:16:09,080
It's the 83, 766.

2368
03:16:11,180 --> 03:16:16,400
Allen and he had he Allen has it on screen and is eighty three thousand seven sixty six.

2369
03:16:23,250 --> 03:16:24,910
So we would just so

2370
03:16:30,030 --> 03:16:32,710
the difference is a three thousand seven sixty six commission or

2371
03:16:32,710 --> 03:16:39,510
by them. Mayor I would like to make a motion to adopt option two.

2372
03:16:41,150 --> 03:16:45,210
and where would you designate the balance of

2373
03:16:55,610 --> 03:16:57,130
$83,000?

2374
03:16:57,570 --> 03:17:01,690
Where would I designate the balance of $83,000?

2375
03:17:01,690 --> 03:17:04,450
Back to the balance.

2376
03:17:06,570 --> 03:17:07,010
Second.

2377
03:17:09,500 --> 03:17:12,040
Mayor, we would need the formal motion.

2378
03:17:12,040 --> 03:17:40,500
And here I would move that we adopt the amended 26 and the 2027 budget as option two with no additional mill to the city general fund and the ordinance setting out the same for the city or the city of Kansas City, Kansas.

2379
03:17:40,500 --> 03:17:48,240
Thank you with the 83,000,000,000, 766,000.

2380
03:17:50,640 --> 03:17:56,860
Okay, is then moved by by them and second by Ramirez.

2381
03:17:56,860 --> 03:17:58,720
Role called, oh question.

2382
03:17:58,940 --> 03:17:59,300
Davis.

2383
03:17:59,760 --> 03:18:00,760
So sorry, real quick.

2384
03:18:00,960 --> 03:18:03,880
The do not fund one additional economic development position.

2385
03:18:04,040 --> 03:18:05,020
What position was that?

2386
03:18:11,490 --> 03:18:12,310
Is your mic on?

2387
03:18:13,550 --> 03:18:17,030
It was the, there's two and they're pretty much interchangeable.

2388
03:18:18,050 --> 03:18:21,310
I think the small business one, the other one is the management analyst.

2389
03:18:22,130 --> 03:18:26,950
Okay, so just one of those would be, there'd be a net increase of one in economic development.

2390
03:18:27,110 --> 03:18:30,630
There's two positions in the proposed budget for economic development.

2391
03:18:30,830 --> 03:18:32,290
This would remove one of those two positions.

2392
03:18:32,470 --> 03:18:35,110
That's just so staff would have to choose between those two.

2393
03:18:35,230 --> 03:18:37,110
But there would be additional capacity added.

2394
03:18:37,350 --> 03:18:37,890
That's correct.

2395
03:18:38,190 --> 03:18:40,110
Okay, thank you.

2396
03:18:40,530 --> 03:18:41,470
Roll call, please.

2397
03:18:42,110 --> 03:18:42,890
Roll call, Ramirez.

2398
03:18:43,450 --> 03:18:43,690
Aye.

2399
03:18:44,170 --> 03:18:44,410
Heal.

2400
03:18:44,610 --> 03:18:44,790
Aye.

2401
03:18:45,510 --> 03:18:46,070
No.

2402
03:18:47,110 --> 03:18:47,670
No.

2403
03:18:48,510 --> 03:18:49,070
No.

2404
03:18:51,730 --> 03:18:52,290
No.

2405
03:18:54,950 --> 03:18:55,510
No.

2406
03:18:56,030 --> 03:18:56,410
No.

2407
03:18:58,330 --> 03:18:58,890
No.

2408
03:18:59,510 --> 03:18:59,890
No.

2409
03:18:59,950 --> 03:19:00,170
No.

2410
03:19:00,170 --> 03:19:00,550
No.

2411
03:19:00,770 --> 03:19:00,890
No.

2412
03:19:01,270 --> 03:19:02,510
The vote is three to seven.

2413
03:19:02,510 --> 03:19:03,230
The motion fails.

2414
03:19:03,990 --> 03:19:04,550
Okay.

2415
03:19:05,170 --> 03:19:05,830
All right.

2416
03:19:06,070 --> 03:19:06,690
What are we doing?

2417
03:19:10,620 --> 03:19:12,860
For those knows what is your new motion?

2418
03:19:12,920 --> 03:19:14,220
Or what is your new proposal?

2419
03:19:18,220 --> 03:19:37,040
I just wanted to understand further what is the risk of reducing the police server infrastructure and deferring on has mad equipment purchases risk and also technically what those mean.

2420
03:19:37,040 --> 03:19:40,460
And where's your question before the hazmat?

2421
03:19:41,380 --> 03:19:45,700
The reduction in police server infrastructure from 175 to 100K.

2422
03:19:48,560 --> 03:19:53,680
So that is definitely something that we looked at and thought that we could push out to next

2423
03:19:53,680 --> 03:19:54,000
year.

2424
03:19:54,860 --> 03:20:02,120
And then with the hazmat same case as far as those both items that we thought we could push

2425
03:20:02,120 --> 03:20:04,600
out to the next year without closing.

2426
03:20:04,680 --> 03:20:05,220
Based on what?

2427
03:20:06,620 --> 03:20:14,780
Just based on that, there's something that we would not have to, like, there's no urgency

2428
03:20:14,780 --> 03:20:15,480
for it.

2429
03:20:16,920 --> 03:20:23,520
Both are multi-year kind of initiatives, so if you look at the capital plan, for example,

2430
03:20:23,520 --> 03:20:29,560
in the hazmat, there's a four or five-year kind of purchase cycle, the server infrastructure

2431
03:20:29,560 --> 03:20:39,960
same thing. This is not eliminating that by reducing it and there's, you know, it's a multi-year kind of project as they're moving more stuff to the cloud as well.

2432
03:20:40,600 --> 03:20:55,480
Very good. And then now that I'm in city mode one more time. Could you please one more time? And I know I asked this a lot, but could you please tell me the plans for what we will do with positions in the fire department when safer grants eventually retire?

2433
03:20:57,320 --> 03:21:00,580
with this proposed budget of option two.

2434
03:21:00,980 --> 03:21:05,640
So you did ask a question a little earlier and there was,

2435
03:21:06,340 --> 03:21:09,860
there was no impact on the county side for that.

2436
03:21:09,980 --> 03:21:11,520
So it was asked on the county budget.

2437
03:21:11,620 --> 03:21:12,640
So here, correct.

2438
03:21:12,820 --> 03:21:17,420
City General Fund, we do have like 12 additional positions

2439
03:21:17,420 --> 03:21:18,960
that are in the budget.

2440
03:21:19,600 --> 03:21:23,280
There are 17 that are expiring and we do have 12 additional

2441
03:21:23,280 --> 03:21:28,920
positions along with overtime to fill the 17 positions.

2442
03:21:29,260 --> 03:21:36,340
Yeah, so it does put an increased dependence on overtime in order to meet the service

2443
03:21:36,340 --> 03:21:36,640
demand.

2444
03:21:36,880 --> 03:21:37,220
Is that correct?

2445
03:21:37,560 --> 03:21:37,820
Yes.

2446
03:21:38,160 --> 03:21:39,200
Thank you.

2447
03:21:43,660 --> 03:21:44,460
Commissioner Davis.

2448
03:21:45,580 --> 03:21:49,560
I don't know if anybody else feels this way about just saying I really, really think we

2449
03:21:49,560 --> 03:21:54,140
need to think seriously about investing in our economic development department.

2450
03:21:55,100 --> 03:22:03,640
Whether it's the management analyst or the small business position, I think those positions,

2451
03:22:03,760 --> 03:22:09,200
I know we talk about generating revenue, and we talk about bringing more dollars in,

2452
03:22:09,520 --> 03:22:12,560
we're going to need expertise to make that happen.

2453
03:22:13,400 --> 03:22:18,420
And so I know on paper this looks like dollars out the door, but if you get somebody that's

2454
03:22:18,420 --> 03:22:23,220
really, really good at doing their job, and they attract more development and more businesses

2455
03:22:23,220 --> 03:22:29,600
is here and help us refine our strategy and process their position more than pays for

2456
03:22:29,600 --> 03:22:39,340
itself. And so that's why I would like at some sort of leeway of us making those investments

2457
03:22:39,340 --> 03:22:47,600
in our economic development department. I'm assuming staff that option 3 does assume that

2458
03:22:47,600 --> 03:22:48,840
at that position is funded?

2459
03:22:51,590 --> 03:22:52,470
Or am I misreading?

2460
03:22:55,190 --> 03:22:56,170
Yeah, that's correct.

2461
03:22:56,210 --> 03:22:56,830
Yes, it does.

2462
03:22:57,510 --> 03:22:57,830
It does.

2463
03:22:58,130 --> 03:23:00,930
So, again, doesn't have to be that could be some mix,

2464
03:23:01,110 --> 03:23:03,050
but that's just one idea.

2465
03:23:03,050 --> 03:23:06,510
I know we talk about we need to invest in revenue.

2466
03:23:06,870 --> 03:23:09,270
We need to invest in bringing more dollars in.

2467
03:23:09,630 --> 03:23:11,690
This is a way for us to do that in my opinion.

2468
03:23:12,550 --> 03:23:14,090
Commissioner Ramirez, thank you.

2469
03:23:15,850 --> 03:23:16,570
Thank you, Mayor.

2470
03:23:16,570 --> 03:23:17,670
So, with

2471
03:23:21,540 --> 03:23:32,460
no kind of jumping off Commissioner Pateco's questioning to a lot of numbers and everything's being thrown around and I'm getting confused.

2472
03:23:33,040 --> 03:23:41,600
So, if with no mill increase at all, are we still funding safer positions?

2473
03:23:42,500 --> 03:23:47,160
Yes, that is correct and it would be at the 12 positions that we just discussed.

2474
03:23:48,080 --> 03:23:48,560
But

2475
03:23:50,900 --> 03:23:54,720
in option three, you're also taking a million out of the fund balance.

2476
03:23:55,140 --> 03:23:56,200
That's what you want to do.

2477
03:24:05,950 --> 03:24:06,610
Commissioner Cump.

2478
03:24:07,750 --> 03:24:13,810
Commissioner Cump, just clarifying an option to how many positions in economic development

2479
03:24:13,810 --> 03:24:15,170
were budgeted initially.

2480
03:24:15,390 --> 03:24:16,570
It was two positions, correct?

2481
03:24:17,630 --> 03:24:17,730
Yes.

2482
03:24:18,190 --> 03:24:21,010
So this removes one of those, so there's still a net gain of one.

2483
03:24:21,650 --> 03:24:21,770
All right.

2484
03:24:21,890 --> 03:24:22,190
Thank you.

2485
03:24:24,630 --> 03:24:25,410
Commissioner Cump.

2486
03:24:25,590 --> 03:24:26,770
What would be your suggestion?

2487
03:24:26,770 --> 03:24:29,570
I'm going to defer to my colleagues.

2488
03:24:35,480 --> 03:24:36,700
Okay, colleagues.

2489
03:24:38,320 --> 03:24:39,920
What are you deferred to?

2490
03:24:43,360 --> 03:24:44,200
I need a motion.

2491
03:24:46,260 --> 03:24:48,660
What are we concerned about?

2492
03:24:48,840 --> 03:24:50,840
For you, knows, what are you concerned about?

2493
03:24:51,140 --> 03:24:52,660
Where's the revenue neutral option?

2494
03:25:00,640 --> 03:25:04,320
We don't have a revenue neutral option because you voted to increase.

2495
03:25:04,560 --> 03:25:08,960
Well, you didn't, but the commission board voted to increase revenue neutral.

2496
03:25:08,960 --> 03:25:12,680
So that's not an option.

2497
03:25:14,320 --> 03:25:22,300
Mayor, if I could just add an option three here, this fund balance, the million dollars is basically a plug number for fund balance.

2498
03:25:22,480 --> 03:25:27,040
So that that number can float to whatever the commission decides.

2499
03:25:27,280 --> 03:25:32,640
So if there were things in this list here that you said are priorities and you wanted to fund it.

2500
03:25:32,640 --> 03:25:39,660
I mean, you've got 83, 766 remaining, and then if there's other stuff that you wanted

2501
03:25:39,660 --> 03:25:41,920
to add, that would be from fund balance.

2502
03:25:42,240 --> 03:25:46,700
So I'm just giving you kind of additional options.

2503
03:25:52,960 --> 03:25:53,760
Can you understand that?

2504
03:25:55,940 --> 03:25:58,900
I don't want us to take any money out of fund balance.

2505
03:26:00,320 --> 03:26:01,460
That's my recommendation.

2506
03:26:01,460 --> 03:26:16,820
So if we need the question is where do we cut where the deficit is which is one million nine hundred and seventy one dollars and two hundred and thirty-four cent with no meal and

2507
03:26:22,100 --> 03:26:23,580
he cut one point nine million.

2508
03:26:23,720 --> 03:26:26,020
So the question is where are we where are we cutting that.

2509
03:26:45,270 --> 03:26:47,590
But we had a motion and y'all shot it down.

2510
03:26:47,590 --> 03:26:49,150
So because

2511
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:05,180
if you if you add all of that together, that's two million fifty-five, but the minus the

2512
03:27:08,850 --> 03:27:12,930
1.9 is 83,000. That's still for it.

2513
03:27:15,870 --> 03:27:18,230
It's still a 83,000 dollar difference.

2514
03:27:25,840 --> 03:27:31,320
You're right. So that 83, 766 could go to Hasmad. It could go to the police server infrastructure.

2515
03:27:31,320 --> 03:27:36,600
I mean, it could go to any of these. Yeah, because you guys didn't want to put why wouldn't you want to put

2516
03:27:36,600 --> 03:27:44,220
the 83,000 back into the fund balance. We're below the 25% target that we should be at.

2517
03:27:44,360 --> 03:27:49,660
We should be at 45 million and we're not. So why wouldn't you want to put that money

2518
03:27:49,660 --> 03:27:56,440
and start increasing our fund reserve for those increases?

2519
03:28:00,240 --> 03:28:01,560
Why wouldn't we want to do that?

2520
03:28:03,420 --> 03:28:07,180
If not, where do you want, where exactly do you want the 83,000 to go?

2521
03:28:25,880 --> 03:28:26,880
Do you want to put it back

2522
03:28:26,880 --> 03:28:30,160
I can say economic development so you can add another person, but at that rate.

2523
03:28:32,160 --> 03:28:36,140
Yes, Commissioner Low, I'm sorry, Commissioner Howard and then Commissioner Lopez.

2524
03:28:37,020 --> 03:28:41,740
Howard district one, I would be in favor of the 83,000 us left over.

2525
03:28:42,160 --> 03:28:46,060
I am very much so in favor of putting that into economic development.

2526
03:28:46,800 --> 03:28:55,620
Just to echo my colleague Commissioner Davis's point that if you have somebody in that position, that can do their job.

2527
03:28:55,620 --> 03:29:03,520
Then I think that'll change things, but yeah, I'm in favor of putting it towards the economic development how much we can decide that, but

2528
03:29:04,300 --> 03:29:07,560
That's why I said no, okay

2529
03:29:08,680 --> 03:29:09,800
Commissioner Lopez

2530
03:29:10,580 --> 03:29:14,040
We're where we actually thought where are we at with with a grant writer?

2531
03:29:17,110 --> 03:29:17,910
Good question

2532
03:29:18,510 --> 03:29:23,230
Is that already in the budget? Yes, that is where that remains the grant writer position remains

2533
03:29:23,230 --> 03:29:30,110
say what? It already remains. It's in the budget already. It is not one of the

2534
03:29:30,110 --> 03:29:33,910
positions. The grant writer position is not one that was proposed to the

2535
03:29:33,910 --> 03:29:40,510
grant writer is still in play. Yep. You just got to go find one off the street

2536
03:29:40,510 --> 03:29:48,530
and get one going on. Okay. Commissioner Howard. Howard District 1 ICA. How's

2537
03:29:48,530 --> 03:29:50,970
Can you talk about the state of the economic department

2538
03:29:51,690 --> 03:29:54,510
and why I guess it would be important to add,

2539
03:29:58,600 --> 03:29:59,760
I guess, put more.

2540
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,480
I'll put more of the fund into the economic department. Yeah, where are we at with the, I mean, the, why we added two positions in economic development is, or, you know, the reasons that you all have already articulated, which is our economic development is long term, not even long term, the way that we need to reduce the financial pressures by generating more revenue. And so there is a lot of activity.

2541
03:30:29,480 --> 03:30:37,000
economic activity in the community and we have a very small economic development department.

2542
03:30:37,360 --> 03:30:47,600
I'm going to say what five people may be six with land bank. So for a community our

2543
03:30:47,600 --> 03:30:53,640
size, it's a pretty small, it's a very small department and there's additional opportunities

2544
03:30:53,640 --> 03:31:00,260
to support economic developments by adding, not a lot, but adding some additional capacity

2545
03:31:00,260 --> 03:31:01,440
in that department.

2546
03:31:01,860 --> 03:31:02,080
Sure.

2547
03:31:02,500 --> 03:31:02,620
Sure.

2548
03:31:03,160 --> 03:31:06,760
And that's why I would be in favor of the rest of the one that economic development.

2549
03:31:07,880 --> 03:31:08,640
Thank you, Mayor.

2550
03:31:08,780 --> 03:31:08,940
Okay.

2551
03:31:09,140 --> 03:31:10,480
Would you like to make a motion?

2552
03:31:19,350 --> 03:31:19,830
Yeah.

2553
03:31:20,790 --> 03:31:21,270
Well,

2554
03:31:23,290 --> 03:31:24,510
somebody make a motion.

2555
03:31:25,790 --> 03:31:26,810
You make a motion?

2556
03:31:27,630 --> 03:31:28,110
Yeah.

2557
03:31:30,670 --> 03:31:31,470
Thank you, Mayor.

2558
03:31:31,790 --> 03:31:32,090
You're welcome.

2559
03:31:32,090 --> 03:31:59,810
I move, people can help me, move to approve the 2026 city amended budget and the 2027 city amended budget with option two using the remaining 83,766 to go towards funding the additional economic development position.

2560
03:32:01,470 --> 03:32:08,750
in the ordinance and the ordinance setting up the same and that and the ordinance setting.

2561
03:32:09,330 --> 03:32:09,510
Yes.

2562
03:32:10,250 --> 03:32:10,910
Hours second.

2563
03:32:11,370 --> 03:32:11,790
Okay.

2564
03:32:11,990 --> 03:32:17,390
So it's been moved by Ramirez and second by Howard but before commissioner sites.

2565
03:32:18,090 --> 03:32:23,550
So the only thing that I would just like clarification on so that at 83 doesn't make up the 120.

2566
03:32:24,070 --> 03:32:25,870
Are you trying to find the other.

2567
03:32:25,870 --> 03:32:36,400
are 40 roughly or is that, I mean, no, because that doesn't fund the full person, the

2568
03:32:36,400 --> 03:32:45,360
two. So, I mean, do we need to make up somehow, because 83,000, 120 minus 83 doesn't fund

2569
03:32:45,360 --> 03:32:45,980
that position?

2570
03:32:48,960 --> 03:32:49,840
Make sure, Davey.

2571
03:32:51,360 --> 03:32:55,980
Oh, I was just going to say, again, I think adding capacity is where we need to add capacity.

2572
03:32:55,980 --> 03:32:57,980
So it doesn't have to be at the director level.

2573
03:32:58,180 --> 03:33:00,560
They could be two management analyst positions.

2574
03:33:00,560 --> 03:33:04,060
It could be somebody does the small business coordination

2575
03:33:04,060 --> 03:33:06,100
and somebody else does some other work.

2576
03:33:06,680 --> 03:33:08,460
But it doesn't have to be that.

2577
03:33:08,680 --> 03:33:10,400
I would support the motion in the second.

2578
03:33:12,630 --> 03:33:14,290
You okay with that, Commissioner Sites?

2579
03:33:15,250 --> 03:33:16,470
I'm okay with the answer.

2580
03:33:16,610 --> 03:33:20,810
I just didn't know if you were trying to solve for 120 results.

2581
03:33:21,270 --> 03:33:21,570
Okay.

2582
03:33:21,970 --> 03:33:23,310
If we were to solve for 120,

2583
03:33:23,310 --> 03:33:27,750
20, where do you think the other 40,000 would come from?

2584
03:33:28,650 --> 03:33:29,810
There's no more to solve.

2585
03:33:31,090 --> 03:33:35,350
I mean, if you're putting the 83 towards a position,

2586
03:33:35,990 --> 03:33:37,770
and that's the number that you have,

2587
03:33:38,070 --> 03:33:41,110
that's the one to make sure that everybody knows

2588
03:33:41,490 --> 03:33:43,950
that whenever you add that position, right,

2589
03:33:43,990 --> 03:33:47,050
it's 83 this year going towards that position,

2590
03:33:47,070 --> 03:33:50,430
but that's ongoing year after year after year, right?

2591
03:33:50,430 --> 03:33:55,450
So I mean if you if you made up if if it is a 120 number

2592
03:33:56,010 --> 03:34:06,630
I mean you're going to have to make that up in the next one but if it's at the 83 is funding you know that that 83 is the number that you're solving for for the additional years.

2593
03:34:07,090 --> 03:34:08,710
So I get it.

2594
03:34:09,190 --> 03:34:09,710
Okay.

2595
03:34:12,750 --> 03:34:17,910
Okay, it's been moved from her mayor's and second by Dave his roll call please.

2596
03:34:19,770 --> 03:34:20,810
Second by Howard.

2597
03:34:20,810 --> 03:34:29,770
I'm sorry second by how are my bad roll call Ramirez aye Hill high a check-o no

2598
03:34:29,770 --> 03:34:31,290
Lopez no

2599
03:34:31,290 --> 03:34:34,370
Stites Davis I

2600
03:34:34,370 --> 03:34:36,270
Item I

2601
03:34:36,270 --> 03:34:40,190
Come no Howard I

2602
03:34:40,190 --> 03:34:41,930
Burns no

2603
03:34:43,570 --> 03:34:45,650
The vote is five to five mayor

2604
03:34:45,650 --> 03:34:46,430
ah

2605
03:34:46,430 --> 03:34:49,390
The vote is six to five the motion carries

2606
03:34:59,180 --> 03:35:00,480
Okay.

2607
03:35:04,700 --> 03:35:08,060
Okay. So now we are,

2608
03:35:10,080 --> 03:35:20,900
next we have the approval of a resolution setting the BPU percentage of gross revenues set over by BPU to the UG for 2027.

2609
03:35:21,840 --> 03:35:29,480
Any members of the commission have any questions or comments here and not I need a motion.

2610
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:39,760
second. Okay, it's been moved by Howard. Y'all listening?

2611
03:35:41,040 --> 03:35:42,300
Sit down there, talk.

2612
03:35:44,420 --> 03:35:49,100
It's been moved by Howard. It's second by, who's seconded? Remarice.

2613
03:35:49,860 --> 03:36:00,860
Roll call, please. Roll call. Remarice. Hi. Hill. Hi. Pacheco. Hi. Lopez. No. Stites. No. Davis. Hi.

2614
03:36:00,860 --> 03:36:00,900
Okay.

2615
03:36:01,500 --> 03:36:02,060
Item.

2616
03:36:02,240 --> 03:36:02,420
Aye.

2617
03:36:02,920 --> 03:36:03,460
Come.

2618
03:36:03,740 --> 03:36:03,940
Aye.

2619
03:36:04,680 --> 03:36:05,240
Howard.

2620
03:36:05,500 --> 03:36:05,800
Aye.

2621
03:36:06,260 --> 03:36:06,680
Burns.

2622
03:36:06,900 --> 03:36:07,080
No.

2623
03:36:07,500 --> 03:36:08,640
The vote is seven to three.

2624
03:36:08,740 --> 03:36:09,400
The motion carries.

2625
03:36:10,420 --> 03:36:11,100
Thank you.

2626
03:36:11,820 --> 03:36:16,760
Next, I'll entertain a motion for the self-supported municipal improvement district budget.

2627
03:36:17,340 --> 03:36:18,460
How are we so moved?

2628
03:36:18,560 --> 03:36:18,960
Give a second.

2629
03:36:19,460 --> 03:36:19,800
All right.

2630
03:36:19,860 --> 03:36:24,520
It's been moved by Davis and seconded by Howard.

2631
03:36:25,500 --> 03:36:26,700
Roll call, please.

2632
03:36:26,700 --> 03:36:36,500
Oh, Mr. Biden thinks just to clarify, since the smith, as it exists right now, expires

2633
03:36:36,500 --> 03:36:47,480
on 1231 of this year, this vote to approve their millevy rate would be contingent on

2634
03:36:47,480 --> 03:36:53,500
this board voting next month to continue the smith.

2635
03:36:53,500 --> 03:37:00,500
is that correct? I got a lot of heads nodding so correct. Okay, thank you.

2636
03:37:00,800 --> 03:37:06,240
Roll call please. Did you did you say that if would you say what you just thought at

2637
03:37:06,240 --> 03:37:12,220
the end? The submit as it exists right now expires at the end of this year. This

2638
03:37:12,220 --> 03:37:18,540
vote is for next year's Mill Lovey, right? So this vote only takes effect if we

2639
03:37:18,540 --> 03:37:21,420
vote next month to continue this mid.

2640
03:37:24,610 --> 03:37:25,730
That's all I'm just

2641
03:37:25,730 --> 03:37:29,190
and they're and they're rate if I'm not mistaken was revenue

2642
03:37:29,190 --> 03:37:31,790
new. They adopted revenue neutral. We're not a fan of

2643
03:37:31,790 --> 03:37:34,910
thank you recommended revenue neutral. Thank you. Okay.

2644
03:37:35,010 --> 03:37:40,070
Okay. Roll call please. Roll call. Remarice. Hi. Hill.

2645
03:37:40,250 --> 03:37:45,590
Hi. Pacheco. Hi. Lopez. Hi. Dice. Hi. Davis. Hi.

2646
03:37:45,590 --> 03:37:45,630
All right.

2647
03:37:45,630 --> 03:37:46,190
Item.

2648
03:37:46,410 --> 03:37:46,790
Aye.

2649
03:37:47,150 --> 03:37:47,270
Come.

2650
03:37:47,710 --> 03:37:47,870
Aye.

2651
03:37:48,190 --> 03:37:48,450
Howard.

2652
03:37:48,730 --> 03:37:49,010
Aye.

2653
03:37:49,270 --> 03:37:49,750
Furns.

2654
03:37:49,770 --> 03:37:49,910
Aye.

2655
03:37:50,210 --> 03:37:50,810
Tend to zero.

2656
03:37:50,830 --> 03:37:51,570
The motion carries.

2657
03:37:54,460 --> 03:37:55,080
All right.

2658
03:37:55,440 --> 03:38:01,360
Now, entertain a motion for approval of the resolution with respect to the Wyandotte County Library Board.

2659
03:38:02,080 --> 03:38:03,200
So moved.

2660
03:38:03,500 --> 03:38:04,000
Second.

2661
03:38:04,320 --> 03:38:04,700
All right.

2662
03:38:04,800 --> 03:38:06,940
It's been moved by Howard and second by Ramirez.

2663
03:38:07,160 --> 03:38:07,800
Roll call please.

2664
03:38:08,220 --> 03:38:08,600
Roll call.

2665
03:38:08,760 --> 03:38:09,080
Ramirez.

2666
03:38:09,480 --> 03:38:09,680
Aye.

2667
03:38:10,040 --> 03:38:10,260
Hill.

2668
03:38:10,860 --> 03:38:11,420
Pacheco.

2669
03:38:11,580 --> 03:38:11,780
Aye.

2670
03:38:12,180 --> 03:38:12,500
Lopez.

2671
03:38:12,880 --> 03:38:13,320
Yes.

2672
03:38:14,060 --> 03:38:14,620
Stites.

2673
03:38:30,460 --> 03:38:38,860
I just wanted to say as we adopt the budget, I just wanted to give a special thanks to our

2674
03:38:38,860 --> 03:38:40,860
budget team and our budget director, Reginald Lindsay,

2675
03:38:46,610 --> 03:38:48,790
I would hate to venture how many

2676
03:38:48,790 --> 03:38:55,170
hours has been spent on that but he and his team have labored day and night and

2677
03:38:55,170 --> 03:39:00,010
on the weekends to provide for it. So really appreciate that. Appreciate Dr.

2678
03:39:00,170 --> 03:39:05,230
Kinneven and her assistance in the budget as well and my Grimm in research.

2679
03:39:05,590 --> 03:39:13,170
So again a team effort. I'd like for Dr. Kaven all right and her team raw raw raw and

2680
03:39:16,020 --> 03:39:16,300
I

2681
03:39:16,300 --> 03:39:20,000
just want to give a big shout out to the commissioners. I know that was grueling but

2682
03:39:20,000 --> 03:39:24,040
So we got through it. I know we disagree, but I love it when we agree to disagree.

2683
03:39:24,660 --> 03:39:29,140
So thank you very much for your opinions, for your values, and for the heart that you

2684
03:39:29,140 --> 03:39:34,360
have for Wyne.county. At this time, the commission will, y'all give a round of applause to the commissioners.

2685
03:39:34,520 --> 03:39:38,120
Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, let's, all ride.

2686
03:39:38,720 --> 03:39:43,220
Man, I was just going to say, if this quick shout out to Interim County Administrator House

2687
03:39:43,220 --> 03:39:46,580
for stepping in and pulling this off.

2688
03:39:46,580 --> 03:40:04,500
So okay a big shout out for him all right at this time the commission will go into an executive session regarding consultation with counsel on matters that would be deemed privileged in an attorney client relationship do we have a motion for an executive session.

2689
03:40:04,500 --> 03:40:09,800
So moved. I have the motion. I got the motion. Sorry. I got to say certain words.

2690
03:40:10,120 --> 03:40:14,680
Fine and that large one. I move the commission going to executive session until

2691
03:40:15,800 --> 03:40:17,880
how much how long do we need?

2692
03:40:19,640 --> 03:40:22,560
Yeah, here he is. 945.

2693
03:40:24,040 --> 03:40:25,500
So half power is good.

2694
03:40:26,460 --> 03:40:30,940
In the fifth floor conference room, we discuss ramifications of proposed economic development,

2695
03:40:30,940 --> 03:40:34,360
and then UG's options in consultation with our attorney,

2696
03:40:34,800 --> 03:40:36,820
which would be deemed privilege as permitted

2697
03:40:36,820 --> 03:40:38,700
under Kansas Open Meetings Act,

2698
03:40:39,040 --> 03:40:41,100
the interim CAO Allen House,

2699
03:40:41,640 --> 03:40:44,520
Angela Loss and Chief Counsel and Darrell

2700
03:40:44,520 --> 03:40:45,820
when advisor to the mayor

2701
03:40:45,820 --> 03:40:48,240
remained to participate in the discussion

2702
03:40:48,240 --> 03:40:52,660
and that we reconvene an open session at 9.45 pm

2703
03:40:53,400 --> 03:40:54,900
with floor conference room.

2704
03:40:55,100 --> 03:40:57,400
9.50, because it's going to take 9.50.

2705
03:40:57,700 --> 03:40:58,440
We need a break.

2706
03:40:58,440 --> 03:41:01,680
so let's start at 920 and be done at 950.

2707
03:41:01,700 --> 03:41:02,560
Okay, 950.

2708
03:41:03,020 --> 03:41:04,740
Thank you.

2709
03:41:05,060 --> 03:41:06,220
Is there a second?

2710
03:41:06,480 --> 03:41:06,660
Power.

2711
03:41:07,280 --> 03:41:08,420
Power second.

2712
03:41:08,820 --> 03:41:09,660
Roll call please.

2713
03:41:10,560 --> 03:41:11,720
Roll call, Ramirez.

2714
03:41:12,020 --> 03:41:12,180
Aye.

2715
03:41:12,500 --> 03:41:12,720
Hill.

2716
03:41:13,340 --> 03:41:13,840
Pacheco.

2717
03:41:14,100 --> 03:41:14,260
Aye.

2718
03:41:14,520 --> 03:41:14,840
Lopez.

2719
03:41:15,560 --> 03:41:15,760
Aye.

2720
03:41:16,080 --> 03:41:16,620
Sites.

2721
03:41:16,900 --> 03:41:17,100
Aye.

2722
03:41:17,480 --> 03:41:17,860
Davis.

2723
03:41:18,120 --> 03:41:18,300
Aye.

2724
03:41:18,600 --> 03:41:19,000
Bynum.

2725
03:41:19,500 --> 03:41:20,120
Aye.

2726
03:41:20,580 --> 03:41:20,740
Come.

2727
03:41:20,940 --> 03:41:21,080
Aye.

2728
03:41:21,600 --> 03:41:21,900
Howard.

2729
03:41:22,160 --> 03:41:22,780
Burns.

2730
03:41:22,780 --> 03:41:25,500
10-0, the motion carries. Thank you.