1 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,280 I'm going to watch that. 2 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,960 » Nailed it. >> All right, [snorts] are we recording? 3 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,880 » We're recording. >> All right, well, good evening, everyone. 4 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:47,600 Let me call tonight's um hearing to order. 5 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Uh my name is Carl Grandrath. Um the hearing examiner for tonight's hearing. 6 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:56,240 Looks like we have one item to schedule for tonight. 7 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Um so, just a quick uh overview. Um so, as a hearing examiner tonight, the 8 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,400 purpose of tonight's hearing is for me to gather testimony and evidence um from 9 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:07,640 staff, the applicant, and members of the public. 10 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Uh and to uh create a complete record on which I will have 2 weeks from tonight 11 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:15,080 to submit my recommendation uh back to staff who then will take that 12 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:19,840 recommendation and bring it in front of your county commissioners for the 13 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:23,240 ultimate decision uh on this matter. Uh as far as procedure for tonight, uh 14 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,080 what we'll do is we'll start off with a presentation from staff. And we have Mr. 15 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Zetter here for the county. Uh we'll give an overview of the project 16 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,599 and the staff's analysis and recommendation on it. Um 17 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:37,000 after that, the applicant will have an opportunity to make any presentation 18 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,280 they so desire. They have up to 30 minutes 19 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:44,039 uh for that. Um after that, will be our public comment portion of tonight's 20 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,760 hearing. I don't have anyone signed up yet. Um so, and there may also be people 21 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,920 um who call in on the telephone. 22 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,839 Um but uh tonight and during that portion, 23 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:56,680 that is the public comment, will be the only opportunity for me to receive 24 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,560 public comment. So, if anybody changes their mind, I'll give a a reminder then 25 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:04,360 if anyone decides they want to give an official comment on the record. 26 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Uh after that, there's an opportunity for 27 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:10,280 the applicant to rebut or address or answer questions, anything that's been 28 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:15,760 brought up by the public. Uh and I can and will ask questions uh 29 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:18,240 at any point in time uh to anyone. So, um 30 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:25,680 without further ado, I'd like to open the public hearing for variance 26-0003. 31 00:09:22,839 --> 00:09:25,680 Uh I'll sit. 32 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,160 Go ahead. >> Good evening, hearing examiner. Blake 33 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Zetter for the record, here to present VAR 26-0003. 34 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,200 A request for two variances, one to the rear yard and one to the side yard 35 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:44,680 setbacks for an existing deck. Before I dive into the request itself, 36 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,600 um I would first like to start off the 37 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,200 presentation by saying uh Kootenai County Community Development has 38 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:56,440 received a number of inquiries and phone calls regarding concern around beach 39 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:00,320 access near the subject property. Um I'd like the record to state that um 40 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,200 this request and the public hearing tonight are limited to the scope of the 41 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:08,120 deck variance. Um any beach access concerns along the 42 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Coeur d'Alene Lake Drive um are not part of this request, nor are 43 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:16,200 they even located on the subject property. Um so it is uh 44 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:22,080 it's assumed that those concerns will not be addressed tonight. 45 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Moving on to the uh request at hand, the applicant is requesting approval of a 46 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:32,200 variance for an existing deck that was built um by a prior owner. 47 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Um the first variance is a foot 14-ft variance from the 25-ft rear variance 48 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:40,320 setback that will allow the deck to remain about 11-ft from the rear. 49 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:44,160 The second variance is a 7.5-ft variance from the 10-ft side yard setback that 50 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,480 would allow it to remain about 2.5-ft from that side yard. 51 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:52,839 The property in question is located uh southeast of Coeur d'Alene Lake of 52 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,560 downtown Coeur d'Alene of Coeur d'Alene Lake Drive. 53 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:00,960 You will see here that the zone is restricted residential that has a front 54 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:05,000 yard setback of 25-ft. You will also notice that the um right-of-way along 55 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,680 here um takes up a good portion of the 56 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:13,360 property um and creates a uh 57 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,280 a significant hardship with regard to development area. 58 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:22,600 As far as site conditions are concerned, these are some photos of the um deck and 59 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:27,000 the surrounding slope. It is a little hard to discern based on the vegetation, 60 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,440 but the uh you can tell there's a retaining wall here. It slopes pretty 61 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,120 steeply up back into the hillside. 62 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:39,880 It should also be noted there is not a way to access this back portion of the 63 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:43,240 property without going through the house and onto the deck. 64 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,920 So, here is the site plan that the applicant has prepared. As you'll 65 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:53,440 notice, the deck here is located in red. The stairs itself are about 11 ft from 66 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:57,360 the rear yard setback and the side of the 67 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:03,400 deck here, oops, is about 2 and 1/2 ft from the 68 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,400 eastern side. 69 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:10,080 During the public agency comment period, all agencies approved or had no 70 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:14,200 objection. During the public comment period, staff 71 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:19,280 received zero written comments, although we did receive a number of phone calls 72 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:22,840 with regards to the beach access. It is staff's position that there is an 73 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,400 undue hardship that exists because of the shallowness of the site and the 74 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:33,080 slope characteristics. In addition, the applicant did inherit this issue and has 75 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:36,480 now come back trying to correct it. Um As such, staff recommends approval of 76 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,520 this variance and I stand for any questions. 77 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:44,600 » Hey, great. Thanks for the presentation and your staff report. Um I guess just 78 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,800 maybe half curiosity, how did this come across the county's radar? 79 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,280 » Yeah, so this The applicant has actually applied 80 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:56,000 for solar panel permit. And so, in doing 81 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,240 research on the property, as we do for all permits, we found that there was an 82 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:03,440 unpermitted structure built from the last permit to this permit. It should be 83 00:13:01,839 --> 00:13:08,880 noted that there is a variance that was approved for the existing house 84 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:13,280 back in 2012 and then the subsequent house permit was built in 2013. It is 85 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:18,960 assumed, based on aerial imagery, that the deck was built about 2014, about a 86 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,960 year after the house was built. 87 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,800 » I think that's all the questions I have for you this time. Thank you. 88 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,360 Mr. Paulson, I presume? >> Yes. 89 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,560 » Go ahead, sir. >> Thank you, sir. Yes, my name is Dan 90 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Paulson and I'm here hoping to request a setback 91 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:39,080 variance for both my for my back deck and its attached stairs. 92 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:45,120 The the deck was built or extended expanded 93 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:49,600 by the the original owner in 2013 2014 right after building the house. 94 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:54,720 The second owner was unaware of the undocumented or unpermitted deck as well 95 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:58,360 as I was unaware of it until applying for the solar permit. 96 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Um the pain that I feel is due to 97 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:08,440 the narrowness of the lot. The lot as you could see from Blake's picture that 98 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:12,160 he showed of the lot size that just is the house itself was designed in a very 99 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,600 unique shape only because it had to be fit onto that small lot. And so there is 100 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:21,880 absolutely no place um around the house where a a deck could 101 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:25,480 be placed and be within the setback requirements. 102 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,800 There just simply isn't an area there. Um 103 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:33,960 so I'm not trying to expand the deck or change the deck in any way. I'm just 104 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:39,080 trying to legalize the deck um that is existing in its current 105 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:43,520 condition. Um 106 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:47,160 both my adjacent neighbors I have a neighbor that owns the land behind the 107 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:51,000 house as well as a neighbor that owns the land to the east of the house. 108 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,120 They both have signed a statement in full support of the variance application 109 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,440 and I have that with me, sir, if you'd like to view it. 110 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,600 » Uh I did see that in the record um when I was reviewing it unless it's different 111 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,280 than there's like four signature blocks in 112 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,640 the statement. I can see that. >> Um 113 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:15,000 my deck I I believe maybe the house itself is not even visible from 114 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:18,040 the neighbor's house is as I live below them in very steep terrain and so you 115 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:22,120 can see the to the right there on the images the 116 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:26,920 the land spot where the neighbor is now building his house and the other 117 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:30,960 neighbor who has the land behind my house is up above and he he can't see 118 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,600 the house at all I don't believe from his vantage point. He surely can't see 119 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:38,200 the deck. From the roadside uh just the very 120 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:41,600 corner of the deck can be seen from the roadside 121 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:45,440 on the on the east side and that's only after looking through the the blanket of 122 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:49,000 trees. So it's very difficult to see. I don't believe there's any 123 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,600 impact to the public and definitely not to my neighbors with the visual aspect 124 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:57,040 of the deck. Um 125 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,120 As Blake said, all review and agencies have 126 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:03,680 uh not found any problems with the the deck 127 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,400 and those agencies are extensive Lakeside Highway, the Idaho 128 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:11,360 Transportation Department, Panhandle Panhandle Health, Avista as well as 129 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Kootenai County Fire. Um 130 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:22,280 In summary, I am trying just to bring my existing structure which has been in 131 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:26,440 existence for 13 or 14 13 years into uh becoming a legal structure. And 132 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,080 uh I'm not trying to change it in any way 133 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:34,360 or improve it in any way. I just want to make it legal. 134 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,360 Thank 135 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:43,760 » All right. So that does move us to our public comment portion of tonight's 136 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:48,080 hearing. Um so I'll check real quick to see if there's anybody who's connected 137 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:52,240 via telephone or online however it's being done today. 138 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Um I don't know if Okay. Well, if there's anyone who can 139 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:00,720 hear my voice who's connected versus on the telephone, 140 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,720 um you can go ahead and speak up now. 141 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Okay. And I'll repeat for anyone else who's here in the audience. Uh 142 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:14,880 uh this is your one and only chance to enter a public comment on the record. Uh 143 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:20,360 so I'm just giving a last chance to do that. Seeing none so eager. 144 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Okay. I'm going to move this on from the public comment portion. 145 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,040 I guess I'll just ask if there's anything else from staff or the 146 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,760 applicant they would like to say during tonight's hearing. 147 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,760 » I have nothing further. 148 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:39,560 » Okay, I have no further questions. As I said 149 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:43,600 well maybe I didn't say this part before. I did receive the file from from 150 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,880 the county staff and so that's that in tonight's testimony is going to be the 151 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,680 bulk of the record tonight. Um 152 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,200 but with that I am going to close the record for variance 26-0003 153 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,840 and we are adjourned. Thank you. >> Thank you. 154 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,800 Thank you. Good job. Nice job. 155 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 » Nice job.