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» It was a It had been a record.

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» Just looking at the

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» They had a different band. So,

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they paid a little more money.

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» Oh, did they?

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» Bob, did you go to the hear the band?

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» Did you go to the chicken barbecue? Hear

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the band?

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» No. No. We're up in Travers.

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Well, they had a new one. I paid some

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money for it.

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I ran out of steam.

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That's where you're going to be pretty

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soon. Tra, right?

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Next week.

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» Father came up there. The chicken.

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» Oh, nice.

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» You should bless the chicken before they

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before they got slaughtered. Yeah. But

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anyway,

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» Is it recording?

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» It is recording

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» And Travis

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did run out.

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» Yeah, fairly early.

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Oh, really?

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I don't want to say something stupid.

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» Yes.

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like to call the finance committee

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committee the whole order

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the pledge.

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To the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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[clears throat]

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» And madame clerk of roll call, please.

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» Commissioner Weber

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Campbell

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Jill Zinc

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Ingler

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Marino

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» Here. Commissioner Sweeney

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» Here.

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» Commissioner Hope

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» Here.

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» All present. Mr. Vice Chairman,

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» Thank you. Uh up next will be approval

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of the agenda. We'll start with general

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public comments on agenda items only. Uh

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we have no presentations or special

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reports. We do have one appointment for

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the parks and recreation committee or

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commission, excuse me. Under committee

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reports, we have several items.

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Um and then we have no intergovernmental

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affairs, no administrative controller

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issues, no unfinished business, no new

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business. We'll have general public

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comment again toward the end and then

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announcements and adjournments. So is

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are there any

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uh additions or

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did anyone like Yes, sir. Chair, I would

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like to add uh to the committee reports

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um agenda item number 18, discussion of

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the current uh 2027

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uh employee health benefits.

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» There's support for that chairman.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Um well, I'll wait for the support then

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we'll have we'll have a discussion.

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» Okay. [clears throat]

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Reported by Marino.

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» Okay. This was brought up earlier and

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I've talked to both the chair, vice

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chair and Swany on this um to bring this

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issue up with the healthcare to have

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disc session and um

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and we kind of agreed to do it during

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the announcement. Um, I'd like to hear

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what some of the public comment is, if

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anything. And I also worked on quite a

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few items in here. So, it would uh I

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would rather have it done in the

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announcements. We're talking even if we

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discuss that, we're talking about

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changing a policy that's already been

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noted on and a kind of a controversial

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vote that went well, not controversial

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because it did go sick. So, I'm willing

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to have the discussion, but I'm not

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willing to give it priority on the

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agenda at this time.

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And um anyways, I will be voting against

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changing the agenda as presented. Also,

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we like to have material in front of us

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on agenda items

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um beforehand. Um I know whenever

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late minute the [clears throat] agenda

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goes out on a Friday and usually if

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something has to come on in between of

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course we had a Monday I will usually

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send everything to the commissioners

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telling them and explaining to them why

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we need to have an agenda item like call

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without getting the information

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beforehand. So um we don't know what the

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information the discussion is going to

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have. So, um I just don't think it

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should be put on a priority yet till we

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have actually actually have numbers we

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can actually look at. So, I'll be voting

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against the um changing the agenda as

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presented

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amendment.

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» Okay. Any other discussion on the

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amendment? Yes, sir.

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» I know when I attended the last Northern

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Michigan Counties Association, there was

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some discussion on health cost. This is

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something that every county I think in

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Michigan is facing. Steep increases and

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long-term sustainability uh is in

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question.

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I'll probably not probably but I will

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vote against this only because I think

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we need to have more information. I'd

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like to have maybe administration reach

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out to see what some of our neighboring

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counties are uh providing in terms of

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health health care.

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I'm thinking next year we're going to be

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looking at another 20% increase and we

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just can't keep up. We may have to go to

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the 8020 and and just go to that and

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keep up with that on a annual basis, but

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I'll be voting against the motion.

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» Okay. Any other discussion on the

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motion?

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» I'd say whether we put it on the agenda

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or not. Uh my only point is to put it

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out at the beginning of the meeting so

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that at least at the second discussion

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uh or public comment I mean um people

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know that we're discussing it during

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announcements.

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» They know now.

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» They know now.

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» Yes.

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» Just one more thing that popped in my

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mind as a parliamentarian.

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Um I think that this requires something

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more than a simple majority vote to

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amend

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» Sure in the bylaws?

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» I looked it up over the weekend because

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I've got numerous calls on it.

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» If you uh actually

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you can amend it at the beginning, you

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can amend it with the simple majority.

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want to add an agenda item, then then it

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has to be a twothirds vote. So, if it

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happens at this point, then it's a

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simple majority vote. If you're in the

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meeting and then you want to add

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something, then it has to be a twothirds

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vote. So,

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» The only other thing I would say is I

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don't think there's any commissioner

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here that uh

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devalues uh the fact that the employees

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going to have to pay more for for health

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care. It's something that they depend

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on. Uh it just comes down to where do

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you balance that budget?

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You do the best you can.

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» Any further discussion on the amendment?

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» Okay. Can we do a roll call on that?

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» Um, Commissioner Weber,

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» No.

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» Commissioner Campo,

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» Commissioner Jzinski,

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» Yes.

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» Commissioner Swainy,

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» Yes.

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» Commissioner Hope,

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» No. We have two eyes, four nos. Motion

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failed, Mr. Vice Chairman.

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» Okay. So, we'll we'll stick to the

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current agenda. Um I hope we do have

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discussion on that during announcement

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to vote on the amend.

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» We do need to vote on the on the um

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agenda as published.

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All those in favor say I.

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» I.

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» I. We have an agenda

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and brings us to general public comments

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on agenda items only.

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For general public comment,

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nobody online. Okay, seeing no one for

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general public comment, uh we'll move

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right down to we have no presentations

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or special reports. Item six,

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appointments to boards and commissions.

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and it's consider appointing one member

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to the parks and recreation commission

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county citizen representative to

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complete a vacated three-year term

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ending December 31st 202127

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and we have two applicants who have ever

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Everett W Bradshaw Jr. and Tim Lannon.

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Uh, is there anyone that wants to speak

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to that? Yes, sir.

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» Um, I know that I know Everett W.

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Bradshaw and his wife and I know he's

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would be really really

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overqualified really for for the things

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that we want to do about planning

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committees and Robert's rule support

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which we just talked about today. So, I

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would I I would say we really make a

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good decision if we picked him.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Yeah. And both of these candidates are

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well qualified. Um

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it's one of always was one of my

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favorite committees to be on the parks

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board. So, it was you got to go to the

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different parks for some of your

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meetings and and do stuff. Uh I know uh

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Mr. Lon comes to our meetings all the

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time and representative of union. So

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this is a tough one, but they're both

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excellent candidates. So it'll be a hard

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hard to choose between the two of them.

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So two good candidates. It's a good

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place for us to be.

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» Any other discussion on that before we

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move on? And we will make that

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appointment at next week's meeting. Uh

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brings us down to committee reports,

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finance committee, committee the whole

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and item one, Commissioner Johnson,

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please take that for us, please.

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Consider ratifying and placing on file

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August 28, 2026 invoice list in the

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amount of $337,94253.

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the September 4, 2026 invoice list in

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the amount of $348,42689

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cents and the adjustment list dated

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August 27, 2026.

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» Walk us through these for the August

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28th list with the amount of $337,94253.

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The general fund portion of that is

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$124,764.34.

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This list was sent out six days prior to

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the payment of these invoices. And so it

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gave uh the commissioners a chance to

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review and ask questions if they had

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any. Uh we do have three hat payments

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right here to make up for some uh past

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late billing. They had some change over

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in the hats and so we're making them

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hold for our contract. And what you'll

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see is that there's some Great Lakes

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Bay, Michigan Works that we've seen many

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times in the past. Again, it's not a

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general fund expenditure. And we also

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have to McBride quality care for the day

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treatment monthly contract from the

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trial court.

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» Any questions on the August 28th list?

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» Next is the September 4th list.

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$348,426.89.

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89. General fund portion is $62,576.37.

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Here we have some insurance payments for

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international and 90-day prescriptions.

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We also have the monthly dental and

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vision insurance. We also have the

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equalization contract to Preston

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Community Services. Then we also have a

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large payment in here to Speed Techch

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Equipment for $71,9495.

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That was for the portion of the balor

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payment per board approved uh contract

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from 421 of 26.

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Any questions on the September 4th

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invoice list.

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Okay. Next, we have the uh adjustments

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list. This list is prepared to show you

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any invoices that were reduced or

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increased to correct uh data entry

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errors. And there's also invoices on

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here that are added so that way we can

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uh pay them early to get early payment

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discounts or to get uh late fees, avoid

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the late fees. And again, you'll see

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it's not as many on this one. Um but we

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do have the consumers and corn food

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service which we typically find on this

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one as well.

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» Okay, any questions on the adjustment

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list?

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Okay, hearing none, we will move that

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item to next week's meeting. And item

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two, uh, Commissioner Sweeney,

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» Consider approving the budget request

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for fiscal year 27 childc care funds in

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the amount of 2,556,723.91

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of uh, board chair

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to sign the form DHS291.

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Do we have Curtis on? Do we have Carrie?

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» Yes.

331
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» Oh, okay.

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» Good morning.

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» Here's Carrie.

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» I can hear you.

335
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» Good morning.

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» Morning.

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» Good morning. So, we're bringing to you

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the 2027 childc care fund application

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and budget. This has been approved by

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the state, signed by Judge Black and the

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DHS director. So, there really are no

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changes except for some increases for

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contractual

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um services as well as the wages and

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fringe benefit projected changes um for

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the juvenile probation officers.

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Otherwise, everything else is the same.

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» Sounds good. Any questions for Director

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Curtis?

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» Director Curtis, this is Commissioner

351
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Angler. I'll let you off early because

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you know the child care is one of the

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fun that always gives me a little bit of

354
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angst but uh you guys do a great job

355
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there but u I'll lead you off on the

356
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questions but it wouldn't be a year if I

357
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didn't ask a couple questions on that so

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anyways thank you

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» Yes thank you

360
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» Okay anything else

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discussion

362
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» Okay thank you

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» Thank No.

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» Yep. And we'll move that item to next

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week's [clears throat] meeting. And item

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three, Commissioner Weber, would you

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take that for us, please?

368
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» Yes. Consider approving the contract

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modification between Isabella County as

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fiscal agent for Great Lakes Bay

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Michigan Works and Grashet Isabella

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Regional Education Services District for

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case management services for the

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contract term October 1st, 2025 to

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September 30th, 2026. and authorize the

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board chairperson to sign the same.

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» Yep. So, being the fiduciary for Great

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Lakes Bay, Michigan Works, we get to

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approve their contracts and this is this

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is one of them. Uh provide case

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management services

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uh in the Crash Isabella Res.

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Anything you want to add? No, just an

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increase of $10,000 to a contract that

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was originally $2.3 million. So small

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but have to do it go through the

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process.

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» Okay, we'll move that to next week's

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meeting and item four. Chairman, you

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want to take that one?

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» Sure. Consider approving the contract

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modification between Isabella County as

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the fiscal agents for the Great Lakes

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Bay Michigan Works in Conley Detective

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and Security Guard Agency Incorporated

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for the contract term October 1st, 2025

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through September 30th, 2026 and

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authorize the board chairperson to sign

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the same kind of the same uh thing on

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there. What's interesting on this one is

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that they're adding one security guard

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in their contract. So, fortunately, it's

403
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it's kind of the way things are as the

404
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security start to be a main concern. So,

405
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» Okay, any discussion, questions?

406
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» Okay, move that item to next week's

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meeting and brings us down to item five.

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Mr. Campbell, you pay that for us.

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» Y

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» Please

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» Consider approving the purchase of an

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Isabella County Sheriff's Office

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replacement patrol vehicle in the amount

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of $40,56.667

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67 cents utilizing claim proceeds from

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MMRA

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and the sale of surplus sheriff's office

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vehicles and and or other available and

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approve the sheriff's office funding and

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authorize the board chairperson to sign

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the necessary budget amendments and

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purchase documents.

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Shariff,

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» Morning.

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» Good morning. Uh, so when the deputies

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were released, um, you know, we we did

427
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liquidate several of the older cars from

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the fleet, um, which was fine at that

429
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point. Now that we're trying to we're

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getting some some, um, momentum back and

431
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getting some some positions back in in

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line. Uh, vehicles become a sticky

433
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situation, you know, to so expensive. So

434
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unfortunately, uh, we had one of our,

435
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um, patrol units, uh, although it was a

436
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couple years older. Um, had very low

437
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,679
miles onto it. Uh, it was struck, um,

438
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when the driver failed to yield to a

439
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stop sign and total vehicle out. So, we

440
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lost a fairly new vehicle in our fleet.

441
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Um, a second vehicle uh was involved in

442
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an accident with an older one, but we

443
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still lost that one. That was a

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administrative car. So, we really don't

445
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:02,159
want to um have to find the funding and

446
00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,520
and the challenges, you know, moving

447
00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:05,520
forward if we have some money coming

448
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,200
back from those claims from MMRA, which,

449
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,280
you know, the numbers are there. Uh

450
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we're a little short, like 6,000 or so.

451
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But, um we are going to be selling uh

452
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the other administrative cars when we

453
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get the new ones in. So, that should

454
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,760
make up that difference or some

455
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commissary funds, which is typically

456
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:23,120
where we find the money for cars anyways

457
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over the years. So, not worried about uh

458
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,480
the that additional 6,000. We should be

459
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,880
able to pick that up pretty easy and and

460
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,159
not have any general fund. Um the uplift

461
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,720
is always an expensive thing to put all

462
00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:35,200
the lights and sirens back into it. Um

463
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,559
we probably will wait just a just a

464
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minute on that uh in the I think it's

465
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late winter, early spring, we can apply

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for the USDA grant and that'll offset a

467
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big chunk of that. Um so right now we'll

468
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probably just get the car. We don't want

469
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the price of the car to go up anymore.

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because they're so volatile in pricing

471
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and we can get one right now for that

472
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price. We know so we get the car in the

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fleet and then we can, you know, apply

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for this grant down the road um to

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offset the cost of the $67,000 to uplift

476
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it, put the license sirens back into it.

477
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That's kind of our plan. So that just

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doesn't

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hurt our fleet any further, you know, or

480
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reduce our fleet any further and doesn't

481
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bring any money out of general fund to

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do it. So

483
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» Any questions? What does it cost to

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equip?

485
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» Anywhere from 6 to7,000. Can can be a

486
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:29,120
little bit more. Sometimes um we chose

487
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the Durango again because that's what we

488
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had. So like the cage in it and some of

489
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the equipment has to fit back into it.

490
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Sometimes the manufacturers change the

491
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design of the car. So some of that stuff

492
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doesn't fit anymore. The push bumper,

493
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the cage or something. Uh I don't think

494
00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:45,679
that's the case here. I think um this

495
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Durango, all the equipment that we took

496
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out of the one that was wrecked will go

497
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back into it. So it's a little less. So

498
00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:53,280
it could be 67,000 but if we have to

499
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,360
start buying some equipment for

500
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different make model or they change them

501
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:59,919
the the dimensions of it goes up a

502
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little more. [clears throat]

503
00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:05,440
» Yeah. Yes. I know when before we kind of

504
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had a schedule on there because you can

505
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,760
get your cards through them ideal and

506
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there's a certain spot after so many

507
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,840
miles where the the tradein value

508
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actually makes sense to do it where you

509
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,480
let them grow them too long you lose the

510
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,799
value on them. So, we probably need to

511
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,120
start looking at maybe getting on that

512
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schedule and replacing them before they

513
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,320
lose their value too much because they

514
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depreciate. So, fast.

515
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» Couple couple things to you know,

516
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,840
obviously with changing the deputy

517
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,520
status. Um, you know, before we were

518
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,880
about two two and a half years, we were

519
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,960
trying to cycle them out at close to

520
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,559
100,000 miles. We got a good resale onto

521
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,960
them at that price. Yeah. But the

522
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maintenance wasn't really being too

523
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,840
challenging. You know, we get too many

524
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,000
miles onto them, then it's just constant

525
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,240
maintenance and repairs. So that was

526
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,919
working pretty well. Um right now, you

527
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,480
know, the deputies are assigned a

528
00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:53,760
specific car. So, um the miles stay

529
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down. They take better care of it

530
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,080
because it's just them in that car and

531
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,520
that helps to a little bit. But, um uh

532
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,600
you know, as we have the potential to

533
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,360
get a few more deputies back, um they

534
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,240
will become an issue, you know, with

535
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:08,080
that that mileage starting to increase

536
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,279
and have that problem again. So, we're

537
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,120
we are trying to find those solutions

538
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:14,080
before they become problems. That that's

539
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,760
what you're

540
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,760
» Yep. I have to say we might have to go

541
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,840
back when we get more cars ready. So

542
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,320
» Yeah, and again our commissary fund has

543
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,480
been pretty healthy and stuff. Um so we

544
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,159
to use that for those car purchases

545
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
because we use all the transports for

546
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:29,840
prisoners and stuff. So it relates back

547
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,240
to

548
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,440
» Do we have the computer equipment for

549
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,679
this car?

550
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,080
» So we have everything. Yes. Um I will

551
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:39,440
tell you um you know it will probably

552
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,200
peak up here in a minute but you know

553
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,960
we're like Windows 10 on some of them.

554
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,559
you know, Windows 11 installed would

555
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,559
install on a couple of them, but not all

556
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:48,480
of them. So, we we're starting to see

557
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:53,200
because these computers that we have

558
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:56,400
into them, the Panasonics, they are

559
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,840
probably six to seven years old now.

560
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,312
They're workh horses and they're still

561
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,640
working, but [clears throat]

562
00:24:59,312 --> 00:25:02,159
[snorts] we may have to include some

563
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,400
computers into them for a few thousand

564
00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:06,480
dollar to start upgrading those because

565
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,600
we've had a few challenges. I got one on

566
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,799
my desk right now that um I had to redo

567
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,760
and it's not coming back online. So,

568
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,039
» What are those things? But they're

569
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,720
pretty old computers, but they're just

570
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:20,960
workh horses and for what we're using

571
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,880
for still. So, yes. And

572
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320
right now, yes.

573
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,480
» Thank you.

574
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,919
» Any other questions,

575
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,200
comments?

576
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:31,919
» Okay. Thank you.

577
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:35,200
» Thank you. We'll move that item to next

578
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:37,120
week's meeting. And item six,

579
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240
Commissioner Marino, I want to take that

580
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:41,520
first. [clears throat]

581
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,840
» Consider approving the FY2027

582
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,320
emergency management performance grant

583
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:50,240
work agreement and authorize the board

584
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:52,400
chair person to sign the same.

585
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:55,200
We have director Gennis. Morning.

586
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,000
» Morning. So this is the uh work

587
00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,080
agreement uh signature page that we've

588
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:04,080
seen ever since the UPG grant has

589
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:07,200
started many years ago. So um it's just

590
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,919
gives the uh scope of work of the grant

591
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,720
and then the signature page goes back to

592
00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:17,360
the Michigan State Police follow the

593
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:19,840
scope grant uh work of the grant. So

594
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:21,760
again the grant seems to be going down

595
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,159
and down each year. It used to be

596
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:28,400
covering about 30 36% of the salary. Now

597
00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:30,559
it's about 8 to 11%. So that's just

598
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,120
thanks to the feds. That's the amount of

599
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:36,559
money that the state gets. That's how

600
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:38,159
deciphers out for every count. So

601
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:41,600
pretty self-explanatory. Like I said,

602
00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:42,000
it's you guys have all seen this

603
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,799
anything

604
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
» Numerous times.

605
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:47,760
» Yep.

606
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:50,320
» Okay. Any questions?

607
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,360
» Perfect. Thank you. We will move that to

608
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:57,080
next week's meeting and brings us down

609
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:57,080
to item eight.

610
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Item seven.

611
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,000
» Sure. Got ahead of myself.

612
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,159
» I do that sometimes.

613
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,240
» Consider approving the agreement for

614
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:10,880
extension services between Michigan

615
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,840
State University and Isabella County for

616
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:17,880
fiscal year 2027

617
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,880
in the amount of $178,724.

618
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,960
and authorized the board chairperson to

619
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:27,039
sign the same. Thank you, Eric.

620
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,039
» Yeah, thank you. Um, so I didn't know

621
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,400
many of you know now that I was called

622
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,159
for jury duty, so we didn't know if we

623
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,480
were going to gonna be here today or not

624
00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:36,159
because but I didn't have to report. So

625
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,159
would you want me to talk about the the

626
00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:41,679
annual report now please?

627
00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:43,679
» Okay. Okay. So um this is the 2025

628
00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:45,600
annual report. We're always year back so

629
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:47,120
as we're collecting data but so it was a

630
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,360
very strong year. We're we're very

631
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:52,559
fortunate as well county obviously with

632
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:54,480
with your support but uh the added staff

633
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,880
that we bring in outside of this

634
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,520
contract that we have here and so um

635
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,080
just you know to talk about we have

636
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,159
Misty Oval who is a farm stress educator

637
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,679
Liz Advent link who is uh taking over

638
00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:10,640
our 4 program just a great job back

639
00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:12,880
» Yeah great job with that and she's our

640
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,120
food safety educator we have Danielle

641
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Shrock who is over she's not housed here

642
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:19,039
but she covers Bella County. One of the

643
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,880
things that we've been working on is

644
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:25,840
continuing to to gain traction uh for

645
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:29,360
our master gardener program. And so she

646
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:31,279
is now um the person that is, I think,

647
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,039
really doing a great job in building,

648
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:35,200
you know, reconnecting with the groups

649
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:38,159
that were uh in that. We have

650
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,520
highlighted in the report. Um we have um

651
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:41,360
a project that's happening at the

652
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,679
Discovery Museum that she's been working

653
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,919
on over there for about two years now.

654
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:48,559
So, uh, that's been going really good.

655
00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:51,039
Uh, Alisa Gman, uh, she is our

656
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:53,440
extension, uh, tribal educator. So, she

657
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:55,919
is split between our Isabella County

658
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,679
office and Sang Chipa tribal, uh,

659
00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:01,520
college. um she's doing uh a lot of work

660
00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:03,279
uh in the sovereignty space and I know

661
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,520
there was a question about that uh

662
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,760
before but connecting uh with the

663
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,200
indigenous tribes uh throughout the

664
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,760
state really kind of throughout the

665
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:16,159
country um kind of you know

666
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,240
engaging those communities I think kind

667
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:20,480
of talking with them connecting with

668
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,720
them uh growing and learning together

669
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,960
with them uh obviously we've had non

670
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,679
we've been fortunate to have non gross

671
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,200
uh for for a number of years. Uh Sabrina

672
00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:33,840
McGee. Uh this would be one of the um we

673
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,640
did lose Sabrina because they cut the um

674
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,399
SNAPD program, but Sabrina was on staff

675
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,640
and so some of the numbers reported in

676
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:42,960
there. Um she was still working for part

677
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,159
of that year. So um she was there. And

678
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,720
then we have Monica Jean who um has is

679
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:51,039
our egg educator. So uh she's doing a

680
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,320
lot of work out in the in the egg

681
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:55,679
community. And tomorrow there's actually

682
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,360
a field of cover crops. Um I don't know

683
00:29:55,679 --> 00:30:00,399
it's if you know about it I'm assuming

684
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,840
but over at Gross Farm. So there's a a

685
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:05,360
presentation that she'll be doing over

686
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:07,440
there tomorrow. Um and then happy to go

687
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,440
through I know this was pretty hot off

688
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,480
the press for all of you but um this

689
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:16,480
will all be posted online too um if

690
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:20,480
there are specific questions um as we go

691
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:23,440
through the January 4 I think. Um, happy

692
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,440
to deal with any questions or

693
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,279
» You forgot to mention Misty.

694
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,679
» Yeah, Misty Oel. Yep. She was one of the

695
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:32,960
first ones. She's our uh farm stress

696
00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:34,799
educator. She's also doing health. Um,

697
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,320
and I think one of the other cool parts

698
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:39,120
about I mean there's a lot of cool parts

699
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,720
about extension. I um sincerely mean

700
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,399
that. Um, but we have all these

701
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,640
different educators like talking earlier

702
00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:46,960
with Commissioner Hope that you know

703
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,120
there's uh, you know, we have pine tree

704
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,120
experts that are in our district that

705
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,039
still support uh, the different

706
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,240
communities. We have integrated pest

707
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:57,440
management. We have Tai Chi that not so

708
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,600
much here because I think they have

709
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,120
other staff but uh that do that at this

710
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,480
commission on aging but that you know we

711
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,640
have all these touch points that um you

712
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,559
know the experts from around the state

713
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,960
and then we also have experts on campus

714
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,880
that we that we work with. And so I

715
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,200
think that's just another point that I'd

716
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,880
like to to share and remind people

717
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,880
about. If you have questions that you're

718
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,640
not not sure of, we have the ask the

719
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,880
expert. Um, so if you go [clears throat]

720
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,120
on MSU Extension and you have a

721
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,760
question, it could be we get thousands

722
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,679
of these uh questions, but you know, it

723
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,600
could be it could be about trees, it

724
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:34,240
could be about pests, it could be a

725
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,840
picture of a we found a caterpillar when

726
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,600
I was with my little guys the weekend.

727
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,279
I'm like, what is that? I'm like, I have

728
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
no idea. We're going to take a picture

729
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,200
and send it in and see if we can figure

730
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:47,200
out what it is. So,

731
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:49,600
um, but so any other

732
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,880
questions? Wasn't a gypsy mozzle?

733
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,600
» No, we we know those

734
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,240
from you.

735
00:31:53,600 --> 00:32:01,000
» Yeah.

736
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,000
» Any questions, Mr. Carbowski?

737
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:03,279
» Okay. Well, thank you.

738
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,840
» Thank you.

739
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:08,320
» And then with regards to the MOA, um

740
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,320
it's the same British standard

741
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,880
memorandum of agreement that we've had

742
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,399
over the years. So, appreciate uh Brian

743
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,000
and Chris meeting with me and kind of

744
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:18,559
talking through uh those different

745
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,080
spaces. We did a 3% overall increase,

746
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:23,679
but um so but it looks pretty much the

747
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,039
same as it has in the past. So

748
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:27,440
» Cool.

749
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:29,279
» Okay,

750
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,679
» Thank you very much. And we will move

751
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:35,279
that item to next week's

752
00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:37,760
» Agenda. And I believe that brings us to

753
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,360
item eight. And Commissioner Swain

754
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,440
» Consider approving the individual

755
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,600
services contracts between the Isabella

756
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,559
County Commission on Aging and James

757
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,480
Vander. Karen

758
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:51,039
Wangdonski,

759
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,559
Angela Mcgherk, Judith Schwarz, Steve

760
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:57,519
Wood, and Mary Elger to provide activity

761
00:32:54,559 --> 00:33:00,480
services effective October 1st, 2026

762
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:03,360
through September 30th, 2029. I thought

763
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,000
board chair to sign. My apologies to

764
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Karen.

765
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,039
» That's okay.

766
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Sure, it's happened before.

767
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:11,279
» I stumbled over.

768
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,760
» Well, good morning. Um so before you

769
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:16,559
this are our contracts for our personal

770
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,000
service uh for our instructors for our

771
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,320
activities program. So all these

772
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,519
individuals teach other fitness classes.

773
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,200
So the other one is our um is our

774
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,360
painting instructor that we've had for

775
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,960
so many years. And we're so fortunate to

776
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,480
have all of these wonderful individuals

777
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,480
who continue to want to work for us and

778
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,440
who have been here for so long um and

779
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,000
have such a great following here um with

780
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,919
our with our guests. So, um, all of

781
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,080
these individuals, they have, um,

782
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:44,880
they're not, it's not an an employee

783
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:49,080
position, so they are, um, individual

784
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,080
contractors with us.

785
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,039
» Lots of activities.

786
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,440
» Lots of activities.

787
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:56,080
» Yes.

788
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,960
» Yeah, it's very, very fun. Very popular.

789
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,200
» Yeah. Good. Any any questions or

790
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,720
comments

791
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,480
for gentlemen here?

792
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,639
Thank you.

793
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:13,280
And we'll move that item to next week's

794
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:14,240
agenda. And item nine, Commissioner um

795
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,200
Weber.

796
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:19,520
» Yep. Consider approving the region 7

797
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,119
area on aging contract drill agreement

798
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,320
and other required documents for the

799
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:26,800
fiscal year 2027 through fiscal year

800
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,639
2029 and authorize the board chairperson

801
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,599
to sign the same and therefore accepts

802
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:33,679
the funding for services.

803
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:35,520
So this is our annual agreement that we

804
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:37,200
have every year with Legion 7 area

805
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,200
agency on aging and the funding we

806
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,040
receive from them helps support our

807
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,839
inhome services programs and also our

808
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,000
nutrition programs. Um and with that it

809
00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:48,079
represents approximately 20% of those

810
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,800
budgets of the total budgets that we

811
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:53,119
have for them. Um very important for us

812
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480
to receive this funding and it as of

813
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,240
this year it looks like they've um

814
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,000
increased it to a three-year agreement.

815
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:59,520
Typically, it's a one year. So, I'm

816
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,839
curious if that that changed with that,

817
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,480
but it's everything is says uh three

818
00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:07,440
years. So, um which would be wonderful

819
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:12,240
in itself.

820
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:16,400
» Okay. Does this support the um Medicare

821
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:19,599
Medicaid uh informationational

822
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,560
» We do that just on our own like the med

823
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,599
med

824
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
» We do that. We don't receive

825
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,480
reimbursement for that. That's just

826
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,480
something that our staff does for the

827
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,400
community. So we no longer receive any

828
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
reimbursement for it. Um

829
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,119
» We used to right

830
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,720
» There was there used to be that state

831
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:35,520
program um the MAP Michigan the

832
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,839
» Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

833
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,320
» That program they did away with it state

834
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:38,800
level.

835
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480
» Oh

836
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,000
» Um but we have continued to do it here

837
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,240
as long as our staff are able to

838
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,640
continue to do that just because it is

839
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:51,520
such a huge need in our community and um

840
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,160
so so do that. It's still complicated.

841
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Yeah.

842
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680
» Which that's coming up October 7th.

843
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,880
that's going to be begin here. So,

844
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,960
October one, they start taking

845
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,720
appointments. Um, and that becomes a

846
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,400
really, really busy six weeks here for

847
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,520
our staff and volunteers. I mean, they

848
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,200
couldn't do it without the volunteers

849
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,960
that we have that help us with that as

850
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,359
well. But, yeah, we receive nothing for

851
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,880
that. Um, area agency does have an

852
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:12,720
educator though that we've started

853
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,000
leaning on who will come here and she'll

854
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,480
provide seminars.

855
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,160
» Oh, okay.

856
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,560
» Um, so that is something we have stepped

857
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,960
back on, back away from, um, and

858
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,240
allowing asking them to take it on and

859
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,079
she's done that. So, I think quarterly

860
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:26,079
she comes here and and I think she's

861
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,599
here later this month and we'll just do

862
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,280
an educational session and then if

863
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:32,800
people want to sign on up for one-on-

864
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:35,359
ones and they do that with our team.

865
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,440
» Yep. I've done that. I've signed up for

866
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:41,680
Medicare last year. So, it's a it's a a

867
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,400
great help.

868
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,520
» Somebody hold your hand and walk you

869
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,720
through.

870
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,720
» They're so knowledgeable.

871
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,119
» Yeah. It's a gift to our community for

872
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,640
sure.

873
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:56,000
» Yep. It is. Any

874
00:36:52,640 --> 00:37:00,280
other questions or comments?

875
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,280
Okay. Thank you.

876
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,960
And that brings us to item 10. Chairman,

877
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:10,160
you want to take that one or excuse me.

878
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Consider approving the fiscal year 2027

879
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,160
through fiscal year 2029 Isabella County

880
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:20,240
Commission on Aging nutritional site

881
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,720
agreements for congregant meal sites

882
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:26,560
with Shepard United Methodist Church at

883
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:29,200
the rate of $150 per month. Fremont

884
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,480
Fremont Township Wind Community

885
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,200
Buildings at the rate of $300 per month.

886
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Rosebush Presbyterian Church at the rate

887
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:41,839
of $100 per month in the Sherman

888
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Township Wayman at a rate of $250 per

889
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:45,920
month and authorize the board

890
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,079
chairperson to decide to save.

891
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,079
» So this is our annual agreement which

892
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,280
we've now this per legal we were able to

893
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,960
do this. We've extended it to a

894
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,200
three-year contract which is helpful for

895
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,160
not only us but all of these entities as

896
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,760
well. Um, but this is allows us to

897
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,359
utilize their space throughout the

898
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,359
community so we can offer our congregate

899
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:04,960
meal sites outside of here. So, we have

900
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:07,680
it at these four locations in addition

901
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,119
to here. Um, we do have a change

902
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,800
starting October one and it's in

903
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,040
Rosebush. So, prior to this, we've

904
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,040
always been at Rose Bush Manor and this

905
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,400
year starting October one, our location

906
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,480
was changing to the Rosebush

907
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,200
Presbyterian Church, which is just right

908
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,760
next door to Rose Bush Manor. Um, and

909
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,800
it's merely because of space. uh

910
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:30,240
Rosebush Manor expanded and created more

911
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:32,480
rooms, but the lunch space did not get

912
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:34,240
larger and so there's a lot more folks

913
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,480
in there and so we really are having a

914
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:38,960
hard time having room for the public to

915
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:42,160
come to that congregate site. So by

916
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:44,000
moving next door to the church um our

917
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,320
meal site facility is so excited to be

918
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,240
able to welcome more community older

919
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,400
adults to come in for those congregate

920
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,720
meals. On those days though, we are

921
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,480
going to still continue to provide meals

922
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,880
to Rose Bush Manor just because we've

923
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,480
done that ever since on those Monday,

924
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,240
Wednesday, Fridays. So on those days,

925
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,680
our bulk drivers will still deliver the

926
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,960
meals to them as well and then we'll

927
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,240
have it at our meal site there. So

928
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,359
they'll still get our meal on those

929
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,920
three days a week.

930
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:10,640
» Sounds like improvement efficiencies.

931
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,160
» Absolutely. And just to just to to get

932
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,040
more community involvement. I mean,

933
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,720
that's our goal is to, you know, to help

934
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,240
people not be isolated and in their

935
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,920
home. We want them out and and

936
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,599
socializing with others and that's will

937
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,920
give us the space to do that. And she's

938
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:25,359
so excited about doing some of the

939
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,599
activities that we have having room to

940
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:29,200
do dancing and all sorts of fun

941
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:31,760
activities. So it'll be good good for

942
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,240
the community. [clears throat]

943
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,240
» Nice of Rose Bush Presbyterian to step

944
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:39,240
up and

945
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,240
» Absolutely.

946
00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:45,119
» And these rates look the same to me as

947
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,640
they they have been for several years.

948
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,000
They are they're all the same except for

949
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,160
the Rose push one and that just

950
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,440
increased by $10 a month by switching

951
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,079
that location. Everything else is the

952
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,240
same.

953
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:58,480
» Excellent.

954
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:02,400
» Good. Any questions, comments on that

955
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:05,280
item? Uh if not, we'll move that to next

956
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,680
week's meeting and item 11. Commissioner

957
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,720
Kent Paul, you want to take that?

958
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,680
review and assess the semianual 2%

959
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:18,920
application from the Isabella County

960
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Commission on Aging requesting $572,554

961
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,520
programs and services.

962
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:30,320
» So, this is certainly a um a team

963
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,160
effort. our our 2% applications every

964
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,680
year. Our managers are involved in it

965
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:38,000
with me and so we together um create

966
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,920
this application and one thing in the

967
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,520
past that the tribe had asked is that we

968
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,200
provide the same application in the

969
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,359
spring and the fall. So this is the same

970
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,520
one that you saw this spring. Uh and

971
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:49,520
then anything that we are hopeful that

972
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,520
we are we're fortunate enough to receive

973
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,680
anything everything is total and we

974
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,440
spend it all within this fiscal year. So

975
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,520
if we do receive something from this in

976
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,880
November, it comes back to this fiscal

977
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,640
year and applied to fiscal year 26. Um

978
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,720
so we've been so fortunate, you know,

979
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,440
since 95, we've received over $10.8

980
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,440
million from the tribe here in division

981
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,760
on aging and um you know, as other funds

982
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,839
continue to go down, we rely heavier and

983
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,040
heavier on it. So we're so thankful for

984
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:20,480
what we're ever able to receive.

985
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,240
» Yes.

986
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Uh the mission on aging is near and dear

987
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,280
to their heart

988
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,000
that

989
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,560
» Yep. Yes.

990
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,440
We all are. Any other any questions or

991
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,440
comments? Okay, we'll move that to next

992
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,040
week's

993
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,680
uh agenda. Thank you.

994
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,359
And item 12. Commissioner Marino, you

995
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,400
want to take item?

996
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:49,880
» We're on 12, aren't we?

997
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,880
» Yeah. Okay.

998
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:57,839
Review and assess the semianual 2%

999
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:59,680
application from the Isabella 911

1000
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:02,800
Emergency Management Department

1001
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:05,119
requesting $47,500,000

1002
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,760
for emergency management hazard

1003
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:08,760
mitigation plan.

1004
00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:15,599
And so this plan um you guys remember in

1005
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:17,440
2017 you have to have a hazard

1006
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,640
mitigation plan uh registered through

1007
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,640
the state of Michigan and through the

1008
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:24,480
federal government to receive funding

1009
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,560
from a disaster. Uh and it's specific

1010
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,800
earmarked funds that if there's a

1011
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,839
presidential uh declaration, they

1012
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,920
earmark hazard mitigation fundings to

1013
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:38,240
litigate that project and hopefully

1014
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:41,200
communities can receive that money. Um

1015
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:43,920
there was about in 2017 we had quite a

1016
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,079
few since we had the plan in place at

1017
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,599
the ear marks funds quite a few like

1018
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:50,079
Mount Pleasant Community Memorial

1019
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:51,839
Stadium was one of them. CMU utilize

1020
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:54,400
some money for their baseball stadium

1021
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:56,960
and stuff like that. So currently our

1022
00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:00,560
plan is set to expire January [snorts]

1023
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,319
28 and the city of Mount Pleasant uh

1024
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,839
informed me that the state of Michigan

1025
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:06,640
has some hazard mitigation funding

1026
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:08,960
available. So they put in an application

1027
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,119
for it and they're set to receive that

1028
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,359
money. However, they have to have a

1029
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,640
balon hazard mitigation plan that is

1030
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:17,760
approved by FEMA in the state of

1031
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,440
Michigan. Ours is set to expire in 2028.

1032
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,760
I'm pretty confident that this project

1033
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,319
is going to last more than 2028. So

1034
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,160
therefore, I'm requesting the I have

1035
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:28,720
short-term notice and this I figured a

1036
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,920
great way to apply for the funding to

1037
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:35,119
pay for the for the plant be done

1038
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,119
through 2% request.

1039
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,280
pretty important thing to have. Yeah.

1040
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,880
» Any questions? Yes, sir.

1041
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,319
» I just want to thank the city of Mount

1042
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,720
Pleasant for helping out. That's a

1043
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:48,880
really good collaboration between this.

1044
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,720
» Yeah. Jason Moore and myself have been

1045
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,280
having a lot of conversations about

1046
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:59,880
this. So, we'll be in contact

1047
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,880
very regularly when this project goes.

1048
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,440
Okay. Any any further discussion on item

1049
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,200
12?

1050
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,280
Okay. We'll move this to next week's

1051
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,599
meeting. Thanks.

1052
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,400
» Uh and item 13, Commissioner Jones.

1053
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:17,040
That's

1054
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,119
» Review and assess the semianual 2%

1055
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,319
application from the Humane Animal

1056
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:24,880
Treatment Society requesting $50,000 for

1057
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:27,920
shelter improvements.

1058
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,960
So their request for the 50,000 is

1059
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,680
broken down into uh some categories. The

1060
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:37,359
first one is uh supporting the spray

1061
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,119
neuter services 10,000.

1062
00:44:37,359 --> 00:44:41,599
The second one is uh supporting

1063
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:44,720
medically complex dogs through the

1064
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:46,960
Holton fund, $10,000.

1065
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:49,920
Disease prevention and sanitation,

1066
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:54,160
$7,500

1067
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:56,319
replacement shelter grade beds, $7,500.

1068
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,520
outdoor play, enrichment, adoption

1069
00:44:56,319 --> 00:45:03,200
space, $15,000.

1070
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,960
So, it's a kind of a broad improvement

1071
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,319
for the facilities there and the care of

1072
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,960
the animals that's are trusted to hats.

1073
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:12,960
» Thank you. And we do have someone from

1074
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,599
hats online.

1075
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,720
» Oh, I'm sorry.

1076
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:16,640
» Hello.

1077
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,079
» Oh, you did fine. Hi, Taz.

1078
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,359
» Hi. How are you?

1079
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,480
» Good.

1080
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:25,040
» Uh, yeah. So, this is um a it's a broad

1081
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,359
request. Uh but all of these pieces help

1082
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,040
care for the animals from the start of

1083
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:31,359
their journey to when they ultimately

1084
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,599
find a home within our clinic. We have

1085
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:35,280
had quite a difficult season when it

1086
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,800
comes to disease prevention. So, a lot

1087
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,000
of our budget supplies that have been

1088
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,319
allocated to um things like rescue have

1089
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,839
been um expensed far sooner than we

1090
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:46,160
anticipated and we know that this would

1091
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:47,920
help take care of that. Some of the

1092
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,200
other pieces that we're asking for in

1093
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,480
this request are ultimately improvements

1094
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:57,119
that um take care of things that we have

1095
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,599
utilized for some things over a decade.

1096
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:01,440
So, for example, supporting spayneuter

1097
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:03,359
services. We have an autoclave that

1098
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,599
we've used for numerous years. That

1099
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:07,839
autoclave is the heart of what we do. It

1100
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:09,920
sterilizes all of our equipment. Uh we

1101
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:12,160
have spayed and neutered over a thousand

1102
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,480
animals so far this year. without that

1103
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,240
autoclave being replaced soon that could

1104
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,520
shut our clinic down for an unknown

1105
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:20,480
amount of time as that piece of

1106
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,960
equipment alone is about $15,000.

1107
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Uh so uh these are just like I said

1108
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,200
pieces our our beds those ultimately

1109
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,160
impact the health of the animals and

1110
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,920
keep some of our vet costs down and

1111
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,000
those have not been replaced in numerous

1112
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,520
years as well. So all of these again

1113
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,839
just from start to finish of their

1114
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:41,560
journey impacts the the whole journey of

1115
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:41,560
the animals in our shelter.

1116
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Okay.

1117
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,040
Any questions, comments?

1118
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Done a thousand spay and neuters already

1119
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,599
this year.

1120
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,599
» Correct.

1121
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:57,359
» That's amazing.

1122
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:59,440
» We're pretty proud of that.

1123
00:46:57,359 --> 00:47:00,800
» Yes. As you should be. Yep. That's good

1124
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,760
work you're doing.

1125
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,160
» Thank you.

1126
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,680
» Thank you. Well, stay online because

1127
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520
we're going to have one more uh topic

1128
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,440
and then we'll bring your contract

1129
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,599
extension back up. So just

1130
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,319
» Absolutely.

1131
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:16,960
» Okay. Thank you. Uh and any other

1132
00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:19,680
discussion on that item? Hearing none,

1133
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,280
we'll move that to next week's meeting.

1134
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,079
And brings us to item 14. And I think

1135
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,319
we're over to Commissioner Mareno.

1136
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:30,880
» Sweeny Sweeney. Sorry.

1137
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:33,839
» Yeah. uh review and assess the

1138
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,040
semiannual 2% application from Isabella

1139
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:39,839
County requesting $53,500

1140
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:42,560
for the county coupla restoration

1141
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:43,280
project.

1142
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,640
» Sure.

1143
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,119
» Sure.

1144
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,440
» Uh

1145
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:54,160
I've been getting uh rough estimations

1146
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:57,359
as far as uh restoring the Klo currently

1147
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:00,640
sits at the courthouse. Uh that

1148
00:47:57,359 --> 00:48:04,720
structure was built in 1876.

1149
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:09,040
Uh currently it is in dire condition. Uh

1150
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:11,520
there is a lot of rot uh to the historic

1151
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:15,839
coup and it's basically just sitting

1152
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:19,359
there falling down. uh you're trying to

1153
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:21,839
um put together uh funding for for

1154
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:24,240
restoration, keeping it in the

1155
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:28,079
historical significance

1156
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:33,559
and as well as putting a fence around it

1157
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:33,559
to protect it for future use. So,

1158
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,800
um

1159
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:45,280
I'm I'm glad to see that you're doing

1160
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,400
the thing is in rough shape in need of

1161
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,480
restoration. Have you uh reached out to

1162
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,760
the historical society folks at all?

1163
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,480
» They just actually reached out to me

1164
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,880
this morning.

1165
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,160
» Okay.

1166
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,240
» So, I'll be

1167
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,119
» Yep. They've been they've had a

1168
00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:01,200
committee together and plans to do this

1169
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:05,359
for quite some time. So hopefully we can

1170
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,160
work with them and uh get this thing

1171
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,839
done.

1172
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:12,760
» Absolutely.

1173
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:12,760
» Cool. Any questions, comments?

1174
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:19,760
2% request. Okay, we'll move that to

1175
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:23,839
next week's meeting

1176
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,040
and item 15. And I think we're up to

1177
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:26,960
Commissioner Weber.

1178
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,960
» Consider approving the addendum to

1179
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,119
agreement for animal shelter services

1180
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,040
with the Humane Animal Treatment Society

1181
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:36,440
and authorized board chairs person to

1182
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,440
sign the same.

1183
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:42,960
» So again, we have Tessa online. There's

1184
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:46,559
been some changeover at hats and the

1185
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:50,240
contract is up on September 30th and so

1186
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:53,040
we're still negotiating and in an effort

1187
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:54,400
to get Tessa kind of, you know, her feet

1188
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680
wet and everything that she's doing even

1189
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,200
though you're on the board and stuff, I

1190
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,000
want to make sure that we had a chance

1191
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:02,640
to to sit down and negotiate

1192
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,720
um the contract. And so what we're going

1193
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,720
to be doing is that asking for a 60-day

1194
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:08,000
extension, but at the same time, Tessa

1195
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:10,319
and the board will be coming in front of

1196
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,680
H to do a presentation

1197
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:17,440
uh either at the end of this month or

1198
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:19,359
early October um for the board uh to

1199
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,559
kind of look over their upcoming

1200
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:24,079
contract on what they're asking for. And

1201
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,559
so I want to make sure that they have an

1202
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:30,000
ample opportunity to come up and kind of

1203
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:35,520
give their uh update and their uh reason

1204
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:38,800
why uh they feel uh their request is uh

1205
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,280
appropriate. So is that in a nutshell,

1206
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,800
Tessa?

1207
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:45,760
» Yep. Absolutely.

1208
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:49,119
» Sounds like a sensible plan. Any uh any

1209
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,040
questions on that?

1210
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:52,319
Okay, then we will move that to next

1211
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,680
week's meeting.

1212
00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:56,240
» Thank you.

1213
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,599
» Thank you.

1214
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:01,680
» Brings us to item 16. Chairman, you want

1215
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:07,000
to pick that up?

1216
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,000
» Sure. Um, budget amendment 2026-34

1217
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:12,480
BC for the general fund.

1218
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,640
» Hi, good morning.

1219
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:18,240
» Hi, good morning.

1220
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:20,400
So, these are most of our uh year-end

1221
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:23,839
budgets that we look at. Anything that's

1222
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,920
uh uh $25,000 or over for equipment

1223
00:51:23,839 --> 00:51:28,720
needs to come before you. And uh

1224
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,880
anything $50,000 or over uh needs to

1225
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,400
come before you. So, these are those

1226
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,760
amendments.

1227
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,680
Um for the general fund, you'll see most

1228
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:41,200
of those are for the sheriff's

1229
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:45,359
department is different departments. Uh

1230
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:47,119
the uh main one being um under the

1231
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:49,200
expenditures is going to be just moving

1232
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,960
those uh two deputies that we budgeted

1233
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,040
for. We had a sheriff's contingency and

1234
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,720
we moved them up. So I just wanted to

1235
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,720
give you a heads up about that. We'll

1236
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:59,359
start up at the top under uh revenue or

1237
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:01,599
fund balance. Uh the first one is for

1238
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:04,160
third party contribution uh for special

1239
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:06,720
tax litigation. This dollar amount is

1240
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,559
the amount that um the county was unable

1241
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,400
to receive thirdparty contributions to

1242
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,079
help us out from from other

1243
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,480
municipalities. So, this is the amount

1244
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:16,880
that uh general fund has paid on behalf

1245
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,400
of DTR. Um and you'll see on the next

1246
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,359
budget amendment, you're going to see a

1247
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,160
transfer in from DTR to to help us uh

1248
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:27,200
recover that $19.

1249
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,760
Uh the next one in is a a transfer in um

1250
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,160
other funds. It's coming in from uh

1251
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,079
Sheriff's Commissary. uh he just spoke

1252
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,079
to you about those vehicles, assuming

1253
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:38,000
that you folks will approve his uh

1254
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:40,000
request for those vehicles. The budget

1255
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,400
amendments are here so that we can bring

1256
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:45,280
in uh the the amount that's coming in

1257
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,920
from commissary is uh some money that

1258
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,520
come in from MMRA and and went to his

1259
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,559
commissary account. So, he'll transfer

1260
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:55,119
that in to help purchase that vehicle.

1261
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:56,960
Um the next two you'll see are um one

1262
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:59,119
sale of fixed assets, one's an insurance

1263
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,640
settlement that's already um that we're

1264
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:03,359
we're doing a budget amendment. show

1265
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,040
that money coming in from MMRA

1266
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:08,000
um and the sale of the fixed asset that

1267
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,960
sheriff intends to uh intends to get

1268
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,880
when he sells the car. So, those are the

1269
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,880
um the ones he needed to make those

1270
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,800
purchases they just talked to you about.

1271
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,160
Uh the other one, we're bumping up the

1272
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,920
local revenue for Village of Lake

1273
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,599
Isabella. We now have a signed contract

1274
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,800
on that. So, you'll also see down in the

1275
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,240
expenditures, you're going to see

1276
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,040
expenditures booked for that too now

1277
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:30,240
that we're creating a budget.

1278
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Um any questions on those revenues on

1279
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,839
the top part?

1280
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,599
Okay, we'll move on down to

1281
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:37,040
expenditures.

1282
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:39,359
Um again, I just mentioned, you know,

1283
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,160
when we uh budgeted originally in our

1284
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:44,480
budget for the um the two deputies, we

1285
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,480
had it sitting in uh sheriff's

1286
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,160
contingency. We're now moving that out

1287
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,680
of there. Once the budget was adopted,

1288
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,520
we're able to put that up where it goes.

1289
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,880
Um that touches so many of his lineups.

1290
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,960
So, that's why you're seeing a lot of

1291
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:00,000
the all of those line items touched

1292
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,400
there. Um, you'll also see under new

1293
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,960
vehicles, uh, we've bumped that up by

1294
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:08,880
that 46,000 that that Sheriff just spoke

1295
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,640
to you about. Um, we had some overtime,

1296
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,200
uh, that we were able to decrease.

1297
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,200
That's a great thing.

1298
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,160
When you come down a little bit, um, 301

1299
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,240
is the main, uh, department for sheriff.

1300
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,760
And then we come down to to department

1301
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:29,200
309

1302
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:32,720
and the department 311. Those two are um

1303
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:35,520
for the uh SRO officer, the school

1304
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:39,119
resource officer. We moved some monies

1305
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:41,359
out of their uh where that employee was

1306
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:43,359
budgeted and and moved it over to the

1307
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:45,359
Lake Pellet contract. That employee over

1308
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:47,119
the summertime wasn't at out at the

1309
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:49,040
school. So just moving those around to

1310
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:51,119
put them where they belong. no no extra

1311
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,839
money spent by by sheriff. He's

1312
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:56,079
completely within his budget. Um so

1313
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:59,920
that's a great thing there. Uh the last

1314
00:54:56,079 --> 00:55:02,400
one, uh just a few um changes to

1315
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,680
department 351. That's your uh that's

1316
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,280
the jail, that's the corrections

1317
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:10,079
department. Um we are decreasing medical

1318
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:12,319
services. Um we had come before the

1319
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:14,640
board earlier where we were hoping to to

1320
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:17,119
save some money with Welf. So, we've

1321
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,760
decreased that and then um had to

1322
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:21,920
increase inmate prescriptions obviously.

1323
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,359
Um sheriff had some unknown building

1324
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,800
repairs and maintenance come up that

1325
00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:28,000
that we're working on right now. So,

1326
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:32,319
that'll cover those. So, any specific

1327
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:35,280
questions on any particular line item

1328
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:38,559
by chance or anything I can expand on

1329
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,559
more help you understand those ones?

1330
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:42,400
» No.

1331
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:44,960
» Overall, we did really really good this

1332
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:48,400
year. See, there's a $10,000 decrease of

1333
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,319
food. So, because in May

1334
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,319
housing being down,

1335
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:54,000
» I don't think so. I think actually

1336
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:56,319
» I pull a question, sir.

1337
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,880
» Oh, there's a reduction in the budget

1338
00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:01,520
for food with 10,000

1339
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,119
fraction. Is that because of inmate

1340
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,960
housing numbers down?

1341
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:07,680
» Yeah, the ADPs are are down right now.

1342
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,480
They're about 130 to 145, which right

1343
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:14,920
now has been we were running around 150

1344
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,920
155. That'll decrease it.

1345
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,240
» Yeah. Thank for helping me out.

1346
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:26,240
» Okay. Any questions, comments

1347
00:56:25,078 --> 00:56:28,480
[clears throat] on that one? If not,

1348
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:30,960
we'll move uh that to next week's

1349
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,920
meeting and we'll go to item 17, budget

1350
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,920
amendment 2026-35

1351
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BOC.

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» Okay. This one is for the other funds

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other than general fund. Um, starting up

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the top under revenue or fund balance,

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you'll see the one we just talked about

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about DTR transferring in to help cover

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that that case that went to the uh,

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state supreme court or excuse me, our

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Supreme Court. Uh, there's that $197

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$197,000

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coming in. Um, that'll come into general

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fund. Obviously, we just talked about

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that's going to go hit that revenue line

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item. Um you see the transfer out uh for

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that insurance settlement we're

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increasing incre I'm sorry it's the

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increase in to buff up the revenue light

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item first to recognize the MMRMA

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uh insurance settlement. So that comes

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in

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under unreserved fund balance for uh

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fund 264 and 265

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those those are two of sheriff's funds.

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Uh, one of them is the sheriff's escrow.

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The other one is a training fund. We

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decreased those because sheriff was able

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to save us some money. Um, we're using

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we're decreasing fund balance. He was

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able to run um some of his training that

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normally general fund would have to pay

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for. He was able to utilize those funds

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and we didn't plan on that ahead of

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time. So, uh, we're able to just reduce

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the fund balance. The cash is already

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there to to cover all of that and has

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been covered.

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Um we have a little bit of use of fund

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balance in uh fund 290 that is um to

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cover the uh Michigan county social

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services dues uh for that particular

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fund.

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Just a little bit goes there. Uh front

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of the court um I think I budgeted a

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little too conservatively on our

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transfer out fund um to them to to cover

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them for the year and it made me a

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little nervous when I looked at like

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what we may have coming back in. So, I

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wanted to um I I think I thought we

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better uh use a little fund balance

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there. 9,000. Hopefully, we don't have

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to use all of that, but if we do, I I

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just want to make sure it's already

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there so that we don't have a fund come

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in and having a negative fund balance.

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Um and the other one was community

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corrections. Um that's fund 259. Um that

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one we're going to use 11,000 um a fund

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balance also because we had to increase

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some uh tether payments um and some

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health insurance for the NAP fund.

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Uh so those ones are the revenue and or

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use of fund balance expenditures. You'll

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see the offset of these down here. Uh

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first one's your transfer out of commas

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or out of DTR. Um, that's money is going

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into general fund. Sheriff's uh transfer

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out of the uh insurance settlement money

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going in. It's going to go into general

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fund for his cars. Um,

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the

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uh adjustments to the um is it Sharon?

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What is it called? Vocal area

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training. Is that what the one is

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called?

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» Yes.

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» Uh so that fund thank you again for

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helping me out. and his escrow there.

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We're booking some um expenditures there

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because again that's where we uh he

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helped us out by paying in some of the

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uh training out of those two funds. Uh

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the next one is fund 290 or seeing that

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expenditure control for the dues to the

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Michigan county social services.

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Um for front of the court fund 215 the

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next two line items you can see an

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adjustment to health insurance and work

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comp. Um I think those are going to come

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in over a budget. So, I want to make

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sure I bump those up.

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And then, um, and that would be I just

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want to preface that that that would be,

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uh, no reflection on the courts

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whatsoever on their management of that.

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That would be either changes in

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personnel that we didn't didn't plan for

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or I very well might have just

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underbudgeted those two on accident um

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or or by mistake not not put enough in

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those two. So, just want to make sure

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that you folks that that's nothing that

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the courts is mismanaging by all means.

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Um, and then we talked about community

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corrections. That's fund 259 at the end.

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Uh, bumped up health insurance and

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feathers.

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Any questions on those?

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Okay. Thank you. Hearing no questions,

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we will move that item to next week's

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meeting. And that completes the business

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items

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for today. We have no intergovernmental

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affairs, no administrator controller

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issues, no unfinished business, any new

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business. They're just down to general

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public comments. Anyone for general

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public comments?

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Okay, seeing no one for general public

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comments. Uh announcements,

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commissioners, any announcements? Yes,

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as I stated earlier, we we'd open up the

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discussion on on the insurance. So, um I

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do have some uh spent pretty much all

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weekend going over some numbers. Um I do

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have some uh cleanups I want to do a

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little bit. I feel as chairman I some of

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these need to be addressed a little bit

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uh more into the numbers a little bit

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more.

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Um, I'll start [clears throat] out a

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little bit story. First, we had our

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class reunion. We're talking about the

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things that we always got in trouble.

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And I know you guys think that I'm

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perfect. I never got in trouble as a

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teenager, but

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my sisters always said I never got

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grounded, which I never did, but my dad

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had a special punishment and put on and

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we actually had something that we that

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was actually a void.

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And it was dark. One exit spilled. These

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guys get up to 200 pounds in their

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beans. So, in the rare instance I got in

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trouble and I was in in there, I had to

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clean that out. And it was pretty much

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an all day job. Hot, sticky.

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I hate that job worse than I did picking

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stones.

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So,

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um, excuse my language a little bit. So

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when I tell you that I know is,

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I kind of know what is. So So

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there's some BS that I want to go

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through on here that that I really have

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to address as chairman that can't go

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through there. We're going to go through

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the numbers in here. So um one of the

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first ones I want to is is address is

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that somehow this board is balancing the

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budget on the back of the employees.

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So what I did is I asked the uh

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HR department and then and then our

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finance director to put up some numbers

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on there. So started out um I kind of

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used the 465 as a baseline which is kind

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of the the average. Um then you do the

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that's included the 2% cola marker rate

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adjustment would put it up to 47 uh 546.

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So that is where I started at the

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baseline. So a lot of these percentages

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will actually the lower you go the

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percentage will be the wage scale

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there'll be more. The higher you go on

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the wage scale it'll actually be less.

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So,

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and this is an idea I came going through

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here and I probably it's not legal or

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01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,880
something, but too bad we can't prouate

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01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,559
them to the amount that the base salary

1532
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,240
is, how much insurance you're paying,

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01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:26,559
but I'm not sure if that's legal.

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01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,960
Something for the insurance committee to

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01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:31,839
consider because it does seem fair that

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01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,680
people on the lower end of the pay scale

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01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:36,160
is actually paying the same rate as the

1538
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:39,200
people on the top rate. So, I'm not sure

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01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:41,200
if that's a tough thing. That's not my

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,720
purview to do that. That's the insurance

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committee.

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,359
So, let's dig into some of the numbers

1543
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that we got here. Um,

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little bit uh let me tell you a little

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01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:55,119
bit about myself a little bit on here.

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01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:56,880
Some of you, but I am a simple farmer,

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01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:59,760
but I've had a lot of different hats.

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01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,799
So, I've served uh 17 years on a

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01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:06,079
financial uh

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institution uh way back and I'm not

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going to say what year it is because

1552
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it's a long time ago.

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The some of the financial institutions

1554
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:17,119
got in trouble with their book work. So,

1555
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Sarbain Oxley was created law created by

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Congress to actually

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do better work. Um, I was tasked at that

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:30,880
time

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to create an audit committee.

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Boy, it's going to feel good that much,

1561
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Jim.

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01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:41,119
So I was created to actually create the

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01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,680
audit committee, set up the bylaws, hire

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the uh independent auditor, which could

1565
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:48,319
operate on a separate budget, separate

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01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:52,160
on there, and then I was chairman of

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01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:53,625
that for about five years until they

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01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,680
kicked me around to an executive

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[clears throat] committee and then vice

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chair and eventually chairman. So

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[snorts]

1572
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I do understand that some people don't

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like numbers but sometimes that's just

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kind of what I do. So anyway so what I

1575
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,000
did we took the base salary which is

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basically the middle

1577
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people higher and less and this is about

1578
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the average in there. So and then I also

1579
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:20,160
looked and I did look at some other

1580
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:22,480
plans but I don't want to take that much

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time for you guys. So what we did is we

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looked at the very the family plan which

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is the most and then I went through

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everyone

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um every plan. So I'll go briefly

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through them and so let's base salary

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47547.

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Um so we're looking at the total

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compensation. Now this is just the total

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of healthc care compensation. it doesn't

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figure in the 401ks or the defined

1592
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benefits which is another would be added

1593
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to the numbers that I had here and I did

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not want to go there because it's

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probably another two or three days of

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going through the numbers. So

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any say so and I understand that what

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we're asking for is a reduction in the

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net take-home pay

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but we're looking at what the county

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offers and the total compensation

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package. So um like I said 21%. So going

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back to the base salary plan a family

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plan.

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So last year we were sitting at 81 total

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compensation package 81,750.

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Uh that was for fiscal year uh 26. This

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year we're looking at 38

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97 or 970

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which if you figure it in it's about a

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total 6% in the total package

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increase. I understand that the debt is

1613
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:03,119
down, but we are offering a 6% increase

1614
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:05,359
in the total package. So, and these

1615
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:06,880
numbers kind of correlate up and down

1616
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:07,920
the things. So, they are they are

1617
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,319
different because they're a little

1618
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,440
different. And of course, the top plan

1619
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:14,880
is is a 5% they're asking for the county

1620
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:18,719
to do it and some of the other plans are

1621
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:21,359
3%. So, they do go up. So, so I'm

1622
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:23,920
saying, well, maybe the top plan isn't

1623
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:25,679
the one. So, we went through all these.

1624
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,560
So,

1625
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:33,520
so plan B family, same things using the

1626
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:35,600
same baseline 475 46

1627
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,040
uh total compensation, you know, you

1628
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,159
look at they're all going to be the

1629
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:42,319
same. Uh, which is I said maybe not be

1630
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:44,719
fair, but that's the way the system is

1631
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:47,759
set up where the total compensation last

1632
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:49,120
year was 81,994.

1633
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:51,839
I'm just going to drop the pennies

1634
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,679
because I'm not going to do that. Uh

1635
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:57,480
this year the what the county is

1636
01:08:53,679 --> 01:08:57,480
actually paying is 86,818.

1637
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:03,759
Um no less on this plan this plan you're

1638
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:05,759
talking about a 5.8%

1639
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:08,080
increase in your total compensation

1640
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:12,159
package

1641
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:16,799
not including the benefit package. So

1642
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:18,880
plan C, let's go. Uh same baseline,

1643
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:21,120
same numbers. Now this gets because it's

1644
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:25,359
a lower plan a different percentage.

1645
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:30,000
This is an increase of 5.2%.

1646
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:34,640
So um you know less less involved in the

1647
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:36,560
plan but it is less uh impact.

1648
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,679
I think that's the last I think that's

1649
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:47,159
all I did is

1650
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:47,159
yeah three top uh plans on there. So um

1651
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:55,280
so anyways so then I'm getting a general

1652
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:58,640
feel the the percentages are kind of

1653
01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:00,320
tracking along between now plans. So so

1654
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:05,360
then I started to look at let's look at

1655
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:07,920
the comp to comparison. So um so we got

1656
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:10,560
comparisons between five other local

1657
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,719
units of how they pay their healthcare

1658
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:16,360
and as you can see I kind of spilled

1659
01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:16,360
some coffee so

1660
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,320
and then we also looked at there are a

1661
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,840
lot of our surrounding counties

1662
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,320
and that's the other thing I looked into

1663
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:29,679
too. I asked what what's does the other

1664
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:33,440
municipalities in the state do and a

1665
01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:37,840
majority are on an 8020 plan

1666
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:41,520
so um which three of the comparisons are

1667
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:44,719
on an 8020 plan um

1668
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:47,760
and then there brash playercasta macab

1669
01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:49,760
Midland they all have hard caps

1670
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:53,360
um

1671
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:55,600
I think the highest cap was 22,000

1672
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:58,480
which means means that's the most that

1673
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:01,440
we can spend on insurance. So, um I

1674
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:04,239
think we're at 32,000 is what we're

1675
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:06,800
spending on there. So, there was one of

1676
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:08,560
them that had hard cap at 8,000. I don't

1677
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,440
know what kind of insurance you get on

1678
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:13,199
that. So, um [clears throat] I don't

1679
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:15,440
know if you want to go through these,

1680
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:18,239
but if you you look at Isabella counties

1681
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:20,400
and what and I do commend the insurance

1682
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:24,480
committee for the amount of work they

1683
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:28,960
they go into this because it was ton ton

1684
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:33,120
um you look at our plans uh you know the

1685
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:36,719
out of pocket costs the deductibles the

1686
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:38,960
co insurance costs our plan beats every

1687
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:40,320
plan out there I

1688
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:44,640
really want to go into the numbers.

1689
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:47,360
These are available and um and HR can go

1690
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,120
through you can actually

1691
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,760
my notes will be available if somebody

1692
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,719
wants to look at it. So,

1693
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:58,400
you know, as far as costs in here, we

1694
01:11:54,719 --> 01:12:02,560
look at employer number one,

1695
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:05,040
uh, you know, they their plan one is a

1696
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,640
20% plan,

1697
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,159
5% network out of network 20%.

1698
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,520
Uh,

1699
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:16,239
lawyer number two, they pay 100%.

1700
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:20,080
Their deductible is very high. Lawyer

1701
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:22,080
number three, it's another 20% plan.

1702
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:26,640
um to you get their their number one

1703
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:28,320
plan. So I really we I know the

1704
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:32,800
insurance committee tried to keep the

1705
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:35,920
same level insurance on the plans. Um

1706
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,760
try to keep it. So I know looking

1707
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,280
personally looking at the plans the

1708
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,640
difference between if you're on an A

1709
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:45,040
plan now and uh you probably need to sit

1710
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,120
down with some HR because I think the B

1711
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,600
plan could get you pretty close to what

1712
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,840
you want.

1713
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,600
As a farmer, we do crop insurance and we

1714
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,080
have like a hundred different options.

1715
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,159
We have actually a computer program to

1716
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:01,199
go through them. So, some of the options

1717
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:03,840
need to be looked at. So, um I'm just

1718
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:06,960
pushing back. We are not balancing this

1719
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,960
budget on the back of our employees.

1720
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,280
We do not,

1721
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,719
you know, this board is responsible for

1722
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,120
the employees of the county, but we

1723
01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:16,880
also, there is

1724
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,120
thousands of other people out there that

1725
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,719
we have to talk to and as I meet with

1726
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,560
different businessmen and every one of

1727
01:13:20,719 --> 01:13:25,120
them are complaining about health

1728
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,440
insurance and everything and they're

1729
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,280
always ask me about the budget and so I

1730
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:30,640
have to justify

1731
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:34,320
where the money where we're going to

1732
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:36,480
spend the money at and uh you know I

1733
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:39,520
don't like it either with all the opt

1734
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:41,760
option we have are terrible ones.

1735
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Whatever option you chose to go to,

1736
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:50,640
there's going to be downsides to it. So,

1737
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:54,080
anyways, I got these uh if you have it.

1738
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,239
Um, the other thing we we also have is

1739
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:59,360
that and I did there was an article

1740
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:01,280
going around with uh

1741
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,920
uh the Wall Street Journal about the

1742
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:06,719
cost for next year on the insurance and

1743
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:12,080
so where do we go and we try to keep

1744
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:13,679
this um pretty well level as we can. Um,

1745
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:16,320
but I'm going to push back because I do

1746
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:18,320
not think this board deserves

1747
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:21,440
being told that we're balancing this

1748
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:24,640
budget or not because it is it is an

1749
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:26,480
increase. It's not a good thing. I mean,

1750
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,199
we're asking to pay a little bit more,

1751
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:31,280
but but the insurance policy and

1752
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:34,640
everybody we'll go into that a little

1753
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:36,480
bit later about the policy. Um, but

1754
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,480
anyways, I just wanted to bring that up.

1755
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:41,199
Spent a lot of time on I could go a lot

1756
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:45,040
deeper into it. Um, any commissioners

1757
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:48,719
have anything, I could go there. Um, if

1758
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:51,040
the employees have something that's not

1759
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:54,159
my department that are their

1760
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,679
administrator's department, um, we try

1761
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:58,080
to keep those lines a little bit

1762
01:14:55,679 --> 01:15:00,000
separate at times.

1763
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,280
So, anyways,

1764
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,440
I don't want to take too much of the

1765
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:07,040
time. So,

1766
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:09,280
h my other BS I'm going to call and I I

1767
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,560
really do call it this is what irritates

1768
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,440
me after all the work we've done and

1769
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:16,480
it's the transparency man where we're

1770
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:18,719
not transparent

1771
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:20,400
and you know if you can say it enough

1772
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:22,239
times and you think people are going to

1773
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,760
believe it. Well, maybe it is, but it's

1774
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:27,600
not. But I really think all the work

1775
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:30,560
we've done here that I really think

1776
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,320
that's a cheap shot to the board.

1777
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,040
There's a there's a term that I've used

1778
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:37,280
and I know

1779
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,320
you can see I'm kind of a little bit I

1780
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:41,520
probably should have brought some of

1781
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:43,920
this up at the time but you know these I

1782
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,920
actually have a term for it and I call

1783
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,719
it um

1784
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:50,640
drive by public comment but people will

1785
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:53,040
make comments here and they've never

1786
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:56,320
talked to me never talked to another

1787
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:58,000
commissioners they may make a comment

1788
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,920
and they're gone and I'm always

1789
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,800
available to talk things through and

1790
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:06,239
everything. Um, so let's look what we

1791
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:10,400
haven't done for this. Um, we tried and

1792
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:12,239
unfortunately our it is not very good

1793
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,600
but uh that's not a requirement to put

1794
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:15,679
everything on there. So we tried to put

1795
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,320
everything on so everybody can see if

1796
01:16:15,679 --> 01:16:21,120
they can't make meeting. So what else

1797
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,159
did we do for transparency? But we got

1798
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:28,000
rid of all these subcommittees and we

1799
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:30,239
brought them all together here so that

1800
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:32,159
everybody here knows

1801
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,760
everybody our department heads can know

1802
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:34,960
and they can listen to the thing where

1803
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,480
before you'd have to go to this

1804
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,159
committee, you had to go to this

1805
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:43,040
committee, you had to go to the other

1806
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:45,520
committee. So this is all in one spot.

1807
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:48,640
The other thing we did is that we moved

1808
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:50,560
our meetings to five o'clock. So you're

1809
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,719
getting out of work, you can come and

1810
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,280
watch the meetings.

1811
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:57,199
And I've always said that,

1812
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,960
you know,

1813
01:16:57,199 --> 01:17:01,360
it all is public comment, but if you

1814
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,520
have a question or something, pick up

1815
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,199
the phone. I said, we all have our phone

1816
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,840
numbers and things in there, and I get

1817
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:09,600
frustrated when people say stuff, and

1818
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,360
you know, we'll get complaints about the

1819
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,920
roads and everything, and we'll allow,

1820
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,760
but there's some stuff that that,

1821
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:19,600
you know, probably should be addressed.

1822
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:23,199
So, um, like I said, I've been on this

1823
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:26,000
board for 10 years, and I think it's the

1824
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:29,600
most transparent we ever been. I've set

1825
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:32,320
up emails and text messages and

1826
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:35,520
everything that the administrator knows

1827
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:37,440
that I know and then you guys get to

1828
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,520
know that. So, and it's and

1829
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:41,520
unfortunately, I've called you guys on a

1830
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:45,120
Saturday and sometimes in the morning,

1831
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:48,400
and I feel bad having to do that. And

1832
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:50,159
there are sometimes when I have to

1833
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,920
listen to lawyers, I can't release stuff

1834
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:54,960
right away, but pretty much whenever I

1835
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,719
can, unless I have to listen to legal

1836
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,120
advice, which is rare, but sometimes

1837
01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:00,640
that happens, or something that is not

1838
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:04,000
complete.

1839
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:07,920
But, uh, as far as

1840
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:11,840
some of the earlier when I first got on

1841
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,760
the board, um, I know I didn't get I

1842
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:17,159
wasn't in involved in a lot of the

1843
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,159
stuff. a nutsh.

1844
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,199
Um,

1845
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:24,480
so if you're going to say we're not

1846
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:27,440
transparent, then say why. What can we

1847
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:28,719
do to be better with it?

1848
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:33,600
So, I really don't understand

1849
01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:36,080
transparency. I said, you know, I had

1850
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,760
I had somebody that uh did a foyer

1851
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:41,679
request

1852
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:45,199
and they wanted foyer my conversations.

1853
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:47,199
we were talking about the building

1854
01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:48,880
and it's like first of all that's

1855
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:51,360
ridiculous because I can't remember half

1856
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:53,120
time what I said yesterday.

1857
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,040
The other thing is is that when I talk

1858
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,880
to a constituents

1859
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,880
unless they give me the okay I'm not

1860
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:01,920
going to blab that to everybody and

1861
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:04,239
that's how I find out information. So,

1862
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,000
and I'm not sure are we supposed to wear

1863
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:08,480
cameras? Maybe we ought to get body

1864
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,320
cameras so we can fall. And I'm serious.

1865
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:12,560
I'm not sure when I hear this, it just

1866
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,400
irritates me

1867
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:18,239
because I've worked really hard to bring

1868
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:19,600
transparency to this board. And uh I

1869
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:21,920
think we've come a long way. This

1870
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:24,320
board's been a great board to work with.

1871
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,159
We've been a lot through a lot. We

1872
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:28,400
disagree as you can see the beginning of

1873
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:30,719
the meeting. We disagree, but I respect

1874
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,600
everybody on this board at this point to

1875
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:36,560
do this. Um,

1876
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:39,840
so and maybe I need to be a little more

1877
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:42,560
aggressive is when misinformation comes

1878
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:47,320
on because once that gets rolling, it

1879
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,320
gets rolling. So um

1880
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:54,080
so you know um last thing you know

1881
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,199
another history I said I've been

1882
01:19:54,080 --> 01:20:00,640
fortunately I've been doing this too

1883
01:19:55,199 --> 01:20:02,400
long but I've had work with five CEOs uh

1884
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:06,400
four different administrators not

1885
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:09,040
counting here dozen of state and last

1886
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,800
national legislators

1887
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,199
and through all that time I've worked

1888
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,719
with a lot of them uh don't always agree

1889
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:16,400
out of them and everything, but I have

1890
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:18,400
to say

1891
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:22,480
that I found our administrator, Brian

1892
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:25,679
Smith, to be completely trustworthy and

1893
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:29,360
he has my backing 100%.

1894
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:30,560
And um so I'm not,

1895
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,880
like I said, I've had a lot of

1896
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,920
experience, worked on a lot of them.

1897
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,760
There's always going to be

1898
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:38,000
disagreements. And if there wasn't, I

1899
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,640
will be nervous because we should never,

1900
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,400
our roles are so much different.

1901
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,679
I deal with the board and the public and

1902
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:48,560
he deals with operating the county. So

1903
01:20:45,679 --> 01:20:51,360
we try to keep those lines separate is

1904
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:54,080
very difficult and

1905
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:56,640
we have a lot of conversations that are

1906
01:20:54,080 --> 01:21:00,480
we not trending into each other's path.

1907
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:04,239
So um okay one more then we can get I'll

1908
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:07,120
open up the discussions. Um,

1909
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:10,640
this one I debated on a little bit, but

1910
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:12,400
it's one of those things that kind of

1911
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,719
kind of sat in my draw and doesn't seem

1912
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:18,400
to go away.

1913
01:21:14,719 --> 01:21:22,080
So, there's been comments before and

1914
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:25,280
recently that commissioners don't

1915
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:27,280
deserve health care.

1916
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:29,360
I mean, we did not set up the system.

1917
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,679
Amy, it's been that way for 20 years.

1918
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:34,719
Um,

1919
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:36,800
you know, no commissioners on this board

1920
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:38,719
has ever voted to increase their

1921
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,679
salaries.

1922
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:44,880
Uh, even the ones currently, James, I

1923
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:48,239
think served the longest. Um, when I

1924
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:50,880
came on in 2016,

1925
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:53,520
you know, for

1926
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:59,040
a dollar. Today, you'd have to spend a$1

1927
01:21:53,520 --> 01:22:00,960
136. It's lost 28% purchasing power.

1928
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,719
We never asked for it. Everybody thinks

1929
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,679
this job is easy. We don't spend any

1930
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:08,159
money here or we don't deserve it or

1931
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:10,239
doesn't.

1932
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:12,560
We This is the official part. This is

1933
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:15,120
where we show up

1934
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:17,120
where our actually job is is out among

1935
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:21,199
the public.

1936
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:25,760
It's meeting with people. Um,

1937
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:27,360
you know, I was really felt bad

1938
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,639
because I had two commissioners wanted

1939
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:34,639
to go to the MAC conference

1940
01:22:30,639 --> 01:22:36,880
and I had to scrap

1941
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:38,880
find money for one to go. And I I

1942
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:42,400
apologize, but there is no money in the

1943
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:44,080
budget for extra stuff.

1944
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,840
You know, I've been around to seven

1945
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,000
different counties outside the county,

1946
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,520
probably put a thousand miles on my car

1947
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,920
easy.

1948
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,239
Um, can't tell you how many coffees and

1949
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:58,159
breakfastes I had, but I have never

1950
01:22:54,239 --> 01:23:02,159
turned in an expense account.

1951
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:04,480
Um, because county can't afford it and

1952
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:07,280
I feel that I can and that my other

1953
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:08,960
fellow commissioners can use that.

1954
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,120
Like I said, we did manage to send one,

1955
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:16,480
but it's such an opportunity that we're

1956
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:18,239
missing because the educational availing

1957
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:21,040
available.

1958
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:23,120
I mean, you can see because some of my

1959
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:25,920
previous things that I were able to

1960
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,280
network with some of the commissioners

1961
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,320
of the other counties when we were doing

1962
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:32,400
the MMP plan, put that heartland, but

1963
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,639
without some of that trust in there and

1964
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:40,560
those

1965
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:43,120
um so and like I said,

1966
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,639
you know, and you have offer, you know,

1967
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:48,480
why you know, why are we on there?

1968
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:50,800
because it's it's a swear it's a dang

1969
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:52,800
good plan

1970
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,159
and I've checked and I'll look at the

1971
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,000
portal and I kind of did a little bit

1972
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:57,840
portal. I did the comparisons here and

1973
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,400
and I'll probably stay with it because

1974
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:02,000
you know what I'm not I'm not an idiot.

1975
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,840
If it's a good plan I'm going to take

1976
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,560
it. I mean I got I'm a business guy

1977
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:11,199
farming stuff. I said we often got to do

1978
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:12,880
whatever we can. So it's you know

1979
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:14,880
so

1980
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,120
so that

1981
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:20,400
it's kind of you know it's kind of a

1982
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,639
thing uh I a lot of us got this letters

1983
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:25,679
you know it's wants us to do the survey

1984
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:29,520
about uh because this job is is you know

1985
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:32,159
so easy about survey about violence

1986
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:35,440
increases and you know I've been

1987
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:37,440
threatened a few times I said I'm don't

1988
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:39,360
have an office I go I'm out in public

1989
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,800
and I've been

1990
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,159
parking lot. I'm out there. Guys will

1991
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,679
come in there. Usually I can talk them

1992
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:46,639
through everything and everything and

1993
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:48,239
everything's good. But it's it's we talk

1994
01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:51,440
about the new building and how important

1995
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:53,360
security is. So um this is a tough job.

1996
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:55,600
Anybody sat in the seat and say we're

1997
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,760
doing it for insurance

1998
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:00,239
BS. That's all I'm going to say because

1999
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:03,280
it's not. People doing this job is very

2000
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:05,040
dedicated to do the best for this

2001
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:08,560
county.

2002
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:11,679
and the assumption on it, but there is a

2003
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:13,440
lot of money to be saved.

2004
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:16,080
Uh, but commissioners, you know what?

2005
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:19,360
We're elected officials.

2006
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:21,440
So, we need to behave it, tweet it all.

2007
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:23,360
So, I'm going to raise my hand. I'll

2008
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:26,320
give up my health insurance. We got a

2009
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,920
lot of elected officials in there.

2010
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,920
Who wants to give up their health

2011
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,920
insurance?

2012
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,719
Got that

2013
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,639
» A clerk on your idea.

2014
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:38,400
» I'm a full employee.

2015
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:38,880
» I'm talking. Well, you're an L official

2016
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,080
also.

2017
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:44,880
» Also a full-time employee.

2018
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,600
» Why are you different?

2019
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,920
» Why Why are you

2020
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,280
» Can we not engage?

2021
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,600
» Yes, you're right. You're right. I'm

2022
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:54,480
sorry. I broke the rules. Sorry. I'm

2023
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,920
just asking for a straw vote. And if

2024
01:25:54,480 --> 01:25:57,360
it's good for the goose, it's got to be

2025
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,760
good for the gander. And I'm willing to

2026
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:03,520
give it up. I don't bluff and I don't

2027
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:06,080
make excuses because I don't do this for

2028
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,679
certainly don't do this for the money or

2029
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:10,000
the insurance. So that's one of the

2030
01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:12,000
things. But if there's a straw pull and

2031
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,440
we get a majority of people, I'll be the

2032
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,760
first ones to give that up. I don't

2033
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:18,400
think it's a good idea.

2034
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,600
Um but I'm willing to do it. The idea

2035
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,159
was thrown out there. We're trying to

2036
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,840
save money. I'll throw the idea out

2037
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:26,000
there.

2038
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:28,080
Okay, we're we're just about done. I'll

2039
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:32,159
get to the the insurance debate final.

2040
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:36,400
Oh, sorry. Thank you. Um,

2041
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:39,920
so there's a process here

2042
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:42,000
and it was kind of brought up. Um, we do

2043
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,560
want to make changes.

2044
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:47,280
Um, the way I can see it, there's only

2045
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:50,159
really two ways to do it because there

2046
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:52,800
is a policy vote down there. So, you

2047
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:56,639
either have to uh

2048
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:59,280
vote to amend the previous motion,

2049
01:26:56,639 --> 01:27:01,440
which I believe would be uh I don't know

2050
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,520
if we could do it because the changes

2051
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:05,600
that are being

2052
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,520
asked for are so much different than

2053
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:09,600
what we're actually looking for. So, I

2054
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:12,159
think we'd be here for a whole day and

2055
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:15,840
we still would get it straight.

2056
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:19,520
So the other option is to basically vote

2057
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:23,040
to res re resend the previous motion

2058
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,880
which basically erases the motion the

2059
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,520
motion completely because we do have a

2060
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:30,159
motion. We did vote on a six to1 deal.

2061
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,600
So those are the two options that we

2062
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:36,440
have that we want to change. We're

2063
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,440
having a discussion. Um,

2064
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:43,520
so let me go through a little bit on the

2065
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:45,920
process and how we got to this point.

2066
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:48,960
So

2067
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:51,520
call care has been going up

2068
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:54,480
for a while now and it's been a problem

2069
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:56,239
and we've been seeing this. So

2070
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:58,560
our administration

2071
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:02,639
thought that he would get more input. So

2072
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:05,199
he developed the work group

2073
01:28:02,639 --> 01:28:08,159
and it's kind of similar to an advisory

2074
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:11,679
committee. The board doesn't appoint it

2075
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:14,239
boards. It's not an approved uh thing.

2076
01:28:11,679 --> 01:28:15,840
It's something that he created to inform

2077
01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:18,080
him

2078
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:21,920
to

2079
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:23,520
find out give him input on how to solve

2080
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:28,719
those

2081
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:30,960
problem that we have. uh it's actually

2082
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:33,199
probably more transparent the previous

2083
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:37,040
system. So let's bring more people in to

2084
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:39,520
do this. So um just like our advisory

2085
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,760
committees uh the work group does not

2086
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,760
get a vote

2087
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:47,120
only the board but maybe some people

2088
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:50,960
don't that matters.

2089
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:53,440
So they discuss it with him try to

2090
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,960
convince them pros and cons just like it

2091
01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:57,280
this

2092
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:00,320
work this board we don't always always

2093
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,920
agree. Um

2094
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,920
but the difference with them is that

2095
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:07,199
that they have to convince him through

2096
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:09,840
the strength of the argument to do.

2097
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:12,639
He then actually takes it to us and he

2098
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:15,440
makes his recommendation

2099
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:18,719
and he doesn't get a vote either and we

2100
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:21,199
can on his strength of his argument

2101
01:29:18,719 --> 01:29:23,120
we can accept

2102
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:25,360
or not accept anything he puts forward

2103
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,040
on there because

2104
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,199
we are the ones that have the strength

2105
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:33,040
of the vote. we've been through the

2106
01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:36,560
process through election and so it's a

2107
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,920
big responsibility and uh that's where

2108
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,320
it goes. So he'll make his

2109
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:42,719
recommendation to the board and if you

2110
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:45,120
remember it was there was a lot of

2111
01:29:42,719 --> 01:29:47,840
things thrown right. It wasn't unanimous

2112
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:49,360
vote. It was six to one. So we discussed

2113
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:53,120
it

2114
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:57,280
and it went through the process

2115
01:29:53,120 --> 01:30:00,520
and now what was that? Now we're back at

2116
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,520
it again.

2117
01:30:01,199 --> 01:30:04,199
So

2118
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:09,120
we're asking to to look into a change

2119
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:10,880
again

2120
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:15,040
and

2121
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:19,360
I do believe that we have to be flexible

2122
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:21,840
um for to change it. But and that's

2123
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,440
another note that unless there's a major

2124
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,040
change

2125
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:27,440
in

2126
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:30,239
the situation or or there's a

2127
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:32,080
whistleblower account

2128
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:34,719
and I was always going to check on our

2129
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:36,239
bylaws on whistleblowers

2130
01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:38,639
u

2131
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:40,480
how that's handled. I know we have one

2132
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:44,880
just one of those things I never never

2133
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:46,960
really got to. So, um,

2134
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:51,960
so anyways, we have a policy in here. I

2135
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:51,960
told you how we could do it. Um,

2136
01:30:54,239 --> 01:31:01,239
so, and now I want to talk about my

2137
01:30:57,199 --> 01:31:01,239
chairmanship a little bit.

2138
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:07,280
You know, I've been

2139
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:11,520
probably on 30 different boards,

2140
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:13,520
uh, advisory committees. I think about

2141
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,960
15 of them I ended up being chairman. I

2142
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,400
don't know they like doing that to me

2143
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:22,400
but I always end up there. Um every

2144
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:24,080
child or chairman has a different style

2145
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:26,800
and I've developed my style over the

2146
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:30,800
years. It's a lot different how

2147
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:35,199
vice chairman hope operates and for some

2148
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:38,000
boards it works some situation it works.

2149
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:40,400
I kind of got Dre kicking and screaming

2150
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:44,000
this the first time because we have a

2151
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:46,880
lot of lot of issues and uh the only

2152
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:51,800
good thing is we think I we made a lot

2153
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:51,800
of um positive change

2154
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,600
but with all that

2155
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:02,639
you know and I've been through some very

2156
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:04,960
tough board decisions

2157
01:32:02,639 --> 01:32:07,199
I was on a board where we had to resign

2158
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:10,480
There's 40 of us. We all have resigned

2159
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:13,920
to get down 10 and restart.

2160
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:18,400
Some of the people voted against it. But

2161
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:22,159
the at the end it doesn't matter 70 vote

2162
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:28,400
61 vote if it's 43 vote

2163
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:33,120
majority rules. That's the policy. Um,

2164
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:37,760
I'm sorry. I just my style chairman is

2165
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:40,560
that the vote is very important and

2166
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:42,400
we can't keep brief bringing up issues.

2167
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:46,400
Got to honor the vote. You got to honor

2168
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:50,000
your commitment. Um, I said this board's

2169
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:53,920
been through a lot. Um,

2170
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:55,760
I had to kind of My wife actually uh

2171
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,360
kind of made me change my closing

2172
01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:00,760
remarks because she thought it was a

2173
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,760
little bit too harsh.

2174
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:13,159
But, you know, I'm sitting here and um,

2175
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:13,159
you know, I can accept a lot of stuff,

2176
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:19,120
but I always believe that when you're on

2177
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:22,239
the opposite side of a vote, when the

2178
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:26,280
board votes,

2179
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:26,280
that's the board decision.

2180
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:34,080
So, we can keep bringing this up.

2181
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:37,760
I'm only one vote

2182
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:42,320
and uh we can keep voting on it.

2183
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:44,080
It will lead to splitting the board.

2184
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Um kind of seen that a little bit

2185
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,400
earlier. I've tried really hard to make

2186
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,679
sure this board stayed united, but I've

2187
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,840
been on boards where they go through

2188
01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:55,280
there. So,

2189
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:58,800
but I cannot

2190
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,800
and will not be the conductor

2191
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:03,120
on a

2192
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:05,280
on a train wreck

2193
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:07,840
and I think if we cannot stick to our

2194
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:11,120
guns on decisions we made previously

2195
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:13,840
that's where we're going to go. So

2196
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:17,760
been a long thing Mr. Vice Chairman I

2197
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:19,440
will seed the floor back to the to the

2198
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:22,480
group.

2199
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:24,880
» Thank you.

2200
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:28,000
» Anyone else for announcement? Yes sir.

2201
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:31,760
» Yeah. Um, so what uh Angler is alluding

2202
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:35,199
to is that I only want to present to you

2203
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:38,400
a proposal uh that's off works off the

2204
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:42,719
back of the current 2027 plan that we

2205
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:46,679
have approved and it would basically

2206
01:34:42,719 --> 01:34:46,679
save the county $152,000.

2207
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:51,360
So I don't think it's inappropriate

2208
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:56,080
to revisit the topic if we're saving

2209
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:59,120
money, right? Um and so Basically, the

2210
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:03,520
first page here is a proposed plan,

2211
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:06,480
right? Um, and the second page for

2212
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:09,760
reference. I got one for you, too. Um,

2213
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:12,960
is uh basically just the current plan.

2214
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:15,600
And then, uh, the at the bottom is the

2215
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:18,159
2027 plan that we approved right here.

2216
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,239
That's the approved five plan. And then

2217
01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:22,400
the post

2218
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:23,920
um

2219
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,719
essentially

2220
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:30,159
um used

2221
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:35,000
all of the notes uh all of the numbers

2222
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:35,000
from the proposed 127 plan.

2223
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:47,280
So uh so all the numbers are taken from

2224
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:52,239
the assumptions that were taken for the

2225
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:54,639
2027 plan. So and where

2226
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:59,199
uh since you can see that the proposed

2227
01:35:54,639 --> 01:36:01,040
plan has uh three options instead of

2228
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:03,920
five. Uh you can see that it's

2229
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:06,719
different. So things have to shuffle

2230
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:09,840
down. The assumptions that are made are

2231
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:15,120
the bottom left corner notes of where

2232
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:21,199
people moving from say plan A um in the

2233
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:23,920
2027 plan to uh plan A basically um in

2234
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:27,040
the new proposed plan that I um have on

2235
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:28,800
the board. Basically what we have here

2236
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,320
is

2237
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:34,320
removing

2238
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:37,520
plan A where there's um

2239
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:43,679
no uh deductible

2240
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:48,000
and uh making plan B in the in the 2027

2241
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:50,480
plan our new current plan A. So, there

2242
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:53,440
would be, if you look at the proposed

2243
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:56,159
plan, a $200 deductible, and then the

2244
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:58,080
maximum co insurance is

2245
01:36:56,159 --> 01:37:01,040
uh $1,000,

2246
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:06,159
which is the same as plan B in what we

2247
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:08,400
have currently. And then plan B is would

2248
01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:13,440
be the plan C that was that we have in

2249
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:16,239
our current 2027 plan. And plan C comes

2250
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:20,520
from our plan D. So all the deductibles

2251
01:37:16,239 --> 01:37:20,520
are the same as those plans

2252
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:30,560
that we have currently approved

2253
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:34,400
um in BC and D. And what we do is we are

2254
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:37,520
just simplifying the the three plans for

2255
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:42,159
our employees.

2256
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:45,440
We're plan A which now has a deductible

2257
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:47,760
at the start um

2258
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:51,119
would be a 15%

2259
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:53,920
employee co-pay and then plan B would be

2260
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:56,400
a 7 and 12%

2261
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:59,679
um for the employee and then plan C

2262
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:05,080
would open up again an option and leave

2263
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:05,080
that option for employees to have a 0%

2264
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:11,040
plan and that obviously has the highest

2265
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:13,360
deductible which is the same as plan D

2266
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:16,320
in the 2027.

2267
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:18,960
So we maintain a a free plan for our

2268
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:22,320
employees that need it. I'm not making

2269
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:25,360
changes in numbers of people from uh

2270
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,280
what was presented before. So we're

2271
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:29,520
using the same numbers for where people

2272
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:34,800
would go for the assumption for the

2273
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:38,239
numbers for the savings. Um, and then

2274
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:42,400
if you do it this way, um, just from the

2275
01:38:38,239 --> 01:38:46,080
minor adjustment to the plan that we

2276
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:49,280
approved, we're going to save 152,000

2277
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:55,639
using the same assumptions. The

2278
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:55,639
employees save 107 and 45,464

2279
01:38:55,679 --> 01:39:02,639
savings for the county. So, I'm not

2280
01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:04,320
saying we're saving it from 2026

2281
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:08,000
numbers. I'm saying we're saving it from

2282
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:11,520
the plan that we approved.

2283
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:13,440
So, I think that um it's a good

2284
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:16,320
compromise. Our employees are still

2285
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:18,320
paying more money

2286
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:21,440
and

2287
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:23,840
but we're the county's paying $45,000

2288
01:39:21,440 --> 01:39:27,773
less and the employees are paying

2289
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:30,320
$100,000 less. So I I think we should

2290
01:39:27,773 --> 01:39:32,000
[snorts] give it a hard look.

2291
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:35,040
Um

2292
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:38,000
the numbers should be right on with the

2293
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:43,440
same assumptions that the administration

2294
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:46,960
plan has that we approved. So I uh thank

2295
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:49,840
the administration for the plan because

2296
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:54,639
I jumped off of we jumped off of all

2297
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:56,560
that work to kind of find a way to save

2298
01:39:54,639 --> 01:40:00,320
money.

2299
01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:03,520
If um if the board is willing to uh

2300
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:06,239
revisit the vote and adjust the plans, I

2301
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:08,800
think it's worth it. Um

2302
01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:12,560
if um

2303
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:14,880
we can get, you know, maybe the U

2304
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:18,080
Chris Whitmer, director of finance, to

2305
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:21,600
look at the numbers and and say, "Yeah,

2306
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:24,560
we can save some money. you should uh

2307
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:29,000
definitely uh

2308
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:29,000
visit this before open enrollment.

2309
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,360
So the

2310
01:40:32,480 --> 01:40:34,719
» I'm sorry.

2311
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:38,639
» Go ahead.

2312
01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:40,480
» So the total savings is 152,000.

2313
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:44,000
The employee

2314
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:46,159
save 107,000 and the county saves

2315
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,719
45,000. Correct. Is that right?

2316
01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:49,360
» That's right.

2317
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:52,159
» Okay.

2318
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:56,880
And that's and that's with setting those

2319
01:40:52,159 --> 01:41:02,840
three plans at plan A 15% 7 and a half%

2320
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:02,840
pay and and 0% option

2321
01:41:03,679 --> 01:41:08,400
to speak on.

2322
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:09,760
» Yeah, unless you got something.

2323
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,800
» No, go ahead. I'm just answering

2324
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,920
questions.

2325
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:16,960
just a simple thing and we've looked at

2326
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:19,119
looked at that but uh

2327
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:21,760
people have the option to go to plan B

2328
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:24,320
now and we don't know the exact numbers

2329
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:28,080
so the numbers are if I might be correct

2330
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:30,159
on this when the open enrollment's done

2331
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:32,639
they have the option to go from A to B

2332
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:35,679
so these numbers could actually reflect

2333
01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:38,880
what you're doing but there are some we

2334
01:41:35,679 --> 01:41:41,760
try not change as much on here but some

2335
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:44,000
people like Cadillac plan. I mean, I

2336
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,679
looked at B and I, if I'm going to stay

2337
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,719
on there, I'm really looking at B. There

2338
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:50,480
are some more options on there, but

2339
01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:52,960
maybe

2340
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:54,800
with these numbers hold up, there will

2341
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,960
be a lot more people going to B. And

2342
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:59,679
then these numbers, these are just kind

2343
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:02,880
of the estimates of how we am I correct

2344
01:41:59,679 --> 01:42:04,639
on what I'm progressing on here?

2345
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:08,000
» I think so. And like one of the things I

2346
01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:11,679
had that we always uh think about in in

2347
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:13,280
caution is that um we don't these are

2348
01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:16,239
projections, right? We don't know where

2349
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:18,480
they're going to fall. Um so come open

2350
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:20,639
enrollment assumptions were made like on

2351
01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:22,320
the spreadsheets that we use the

2352
01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:24,159
insurance advisory committee used and

2353
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:26,960
these ones I'm sure that swing used as

2354
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:28,639
well same assumptions. So um the thing

2355
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,960
is is we don't really know what actual

2356
01:42:28,639 --> 01:42:34,080
is till open enrollment closes. So come

2357
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:35,760
January 1, we'll know whether we make

2358
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:38,239
any changes or not to what what the

2359
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:40,239
board already approved or whether we

2360
01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,480
need to change. We'll find out whether

2361
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:44,560
we really saved money. Did we actually

2362
01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:46,159
did it actually cost us more money

2363
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:49,360
depending on where the employees

2364
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:51,760
actually moved. Did they move different

2365
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:54,080
than what the assumptions were? We never

2366
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:56,159
know the answer to that until January

2367
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,080
one.

2368
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:59,679
And then one other thing, if I could

2369
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:02,560
just add this for everyone to keep in

2370
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:04,639
mind too as well, is that um the new

2371
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:07,440
cost shares don't go in effect until

2372
01:43:04,639 --> 01:43:09,199
January one. Right now, employees are

2373
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:10,960
still going to continue to play pay what

2374
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:13,360
they what they're paying right now today

2375
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:15,440
for their insurance. the county eats

2376
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:18,320
that first three months of the

2377
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:21,679
difference in premiums which countywide

2378
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:23,920
is $98,000 for the first three months of

2379
01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:28,000
fiscal year

2380
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:30,639
27 the total is 98,000

2381
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:33,119
beats you know that we covered that's

2382
01:43:30,639 --> 01:43:34,719
the difference between the cost from

2383
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:37,280
what it is right now to what it'll

2384
01:43:34,719 --> 01:43:39,840
become January

2385
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:41,520
this was a background to keep in mind

2386
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:45,119
from a budgetary standpoint I honestly

2387
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:48,520
either until over and crunch those

2388
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:48,520
numbers again.

2389
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:54,560
» Personally, I like his plan that I'm

2390
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:56,719
sure swings presented. I think five

2391
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:59,840
plans gets

2392
01:43:56,719 --> 01:44:01,840
gets a little too complicated. I don't

2393
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:04,480
really understand plan E. I don't know

2394
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:08,080
what the what the advantage to the

2395
01:44:04,480 --> 01:44:09,520
putting a plan E on there is. at plan A.

2396
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,520
We've been trying to get people to

2397
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,440
migrate from that plan A because it's

2398
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:16,400
very expensive.

2399
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:19,600
This this kind of does that. It brings

2400
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:23,440
us the savings. And I know we've already

2401
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:26,880
got open enrollment information out,

2402
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:30,239
but um I think there's still time to

2403
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:32,639
reconsider this. Um

2404
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:36,560
I don't think it hurts to consider new

2405
01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:39,560
information. I don't think we have to

2406
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,560
uh

2407
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:47,440
you know we we had a budget proposal

2408
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:49,199
that we voted on but we've got

2409
01:44:47,440 --> 01:44:52,480
presented with new information right

2410
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:55,360
here. I don't I don't think it hurts to

2411
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:58,000
to consider that. [clears throat] Um

2412
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,840
that's my opinion on it.

2413
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:02,239
Um,

2414
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:04,159
I was I do want to piggyback on a couple

2415
01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:07,600
things that Commissioner Angler said. I

2416
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:09,679
I I appreciate your uh leadership as

2417
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,760
chairman. I think you've done a great

2418
01:45:09,679 --> 01:45:14,239
job. Uh we went through some very

2419
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,920
difficult years and I think we have made

2420
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:19,440
improvements.

2421
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:21,360
um the transparency

2422
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:23,679
I think there is a perception that we're

2423
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:27,119
not being transparent and I think that

2424
01:45:23,679 --> 01:45:29,360
comes from and I think especially in the

2425
01:45:27,119 --> 01:45:32,320
the regular session there's very little

2426
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:34,560
discussion we kind of hashed it out here

2427
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:36,159
in the committee of the whole we get to

2428
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,480
the regular session it's kind of boom

2429
01:45:36,159 --> 01:45:41,920
boom boom kind of move through it I

2430
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:44,719
think that creates a perception of uh

2431
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:47,920
non-transparency I think maybe we all

2432
01:45:44,719 --> 01:45:52,480
need to work on the discussion part and

2433
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:57,280
bring the discussion out for the public.

2434
01:45:52,480 --> 01:46:00,080
Um, we all we all understand that, but I

2435
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:01,840
don't know as we're explaining stuff

2436
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,920
well enough to the public. I think we

2437
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:06,880
could do a little better about that. I

2438
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:09,920
don't think we've uh

2439
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:11,920
tried to not be transparent, but I think

2440
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:15,040
we have created a little bit of a

2441
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:17,520
perception of of that. Uh, and I think

2442
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:20,159
we can work on that. I think uh, next

2443
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:21,920
year for 2028, we need to, and

2444
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:25,280
Commissioner Jensky mentioned this

2445
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:27,840
earlier, I think we need to plan for

2446
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:30,639
getting hit with another 20% increase to

2447
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:32,719
healthcare. Um, need to start thinking

2448
01:46:30,639 --> 01:46:36,719
about that now, how we're going to cover

2449
01:46:32,719 --> 01:46:39,520
that and a cola for 2028.

2450
01:46:36,719 --> 01:46:43,040
Um,

2451
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:46,000
I do really like this new structure at

2452
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:48,880
committee of the whole. Um, I think it

2453
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:50,960
gets all the commissioners up to speed

2454
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:53,440
on all the issues instead of breaking

2455
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:56,239
them down by by committee. I think this

2456
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:58,400
works much better. This was

2457
01:46:56,239 --> 01:47:00,080
administrator Smith's idea when he came

2458
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,920
on.

2459
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:05,600
Excellent idea. I think it worked very

2460
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:08,480
well. Um, and I do feel that

2461
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:12,440
Administrator Smith has done a great job

2462
01:47:08,480 --> 01:47:12,440
uh working with the board.

2463
01:47:13,199 --> 01:47:18,880
As far as the insurance and the the

2464
01:47:16,159 --> 01:47:21,040
commissioners getting insurance, uh, we

2465
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,199
haven't looked at our compensation in

2466
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:27,840
several years. I know that we can't

2467
01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:31,280
change our compensation in this term.

2468
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:33,600
We can change it for the next term if we

2469
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:39,199
do it before

2470
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:41,199
um the deadline to um

2471
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:42,480
the elections

2472
01:47:41,199 --> 01:47:44,000
» Before the election, but you have to do

2473
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:46,480
it before that. You have to do it before

2474
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:50,159
the before you sign to run a global

2475
01:47:46,480 --> 01:47:52,080
board. Um

2476
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:54,320
so if we do want to look at that, we

2477
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,679
need to do it before that that time

2478
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:58,960
frame.

2479
01:47:55,679 --> 01:48:01,280
Um, I would not ask full-time elected

2480
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:04,159
officials to give up their health care.

2481
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:07,920
If the board wants to look at that, we

2482
01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:10,639
need to be aware of that uh deadline to

2483
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:12,800
do it for the next four-year term coming

2484
01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:17,719
up. And if we're going to look at that,

2485
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:17,719
we should also look at the compensation.

2486
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:24,600
Um, I think that's all I have.

2487
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:29,600
Just as a clarification, I'm not

2488
01:48:27,679 --> 01:48:32,239
advocating for getting rid of the

2489
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:34,960
healthc care for the elected officials.

2490
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:37,760
I was just using a comparison that that

2491
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:39,760
the commissioner's job is not any less

2492
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:42,760
important than the other elected

2493
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,760
officials.

2494
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:49,440
So just because sometimes we get the

2495
01:48:46,639 --> 01:48:52,000
impression that this is not important to

2496
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:54,400
us.

2497
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,080
I would never vote for that. That's the

2498
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,880
majority.

2499
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,880
I'd vote against it.

2500
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:05,119
» Uh I think I saw

2501
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:07,600
» Marino's hand up. Thank you.

2502
01:49:05,119 --> 01:49:10,000
» You know, I've been on here the longest.

2503
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:12,560
I've seen a lot of changes.

2504
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:16,480
I've seen a lot of challenges.

2505
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:18,400
And with this particular board, we've

2506
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:22,320
been through the biggest challenges and

2507
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:24,239
the biggest um unexpected events and

2508
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:27,040
also kind of a dashing of some of our

2509
01:49:24,239 --> 01:49:28,719
ideas. You know, with the Johnson

2510
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:31,440
Control thing, we were going to get

2511
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:33,840
solar arrays all over and save money and

2512
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:38,480
that certain kind of credit you get for

2513
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:40,960
uh not spending so much on energy.

2514
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:43,840
But and and uh and I I want to commend

2515
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:46,560
this board. Every one of us,

2516
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:50,000
we stepped up. We didn't know what was

2517
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:52,239
going to happen. We still don't, but I

2518
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:55,920
say we work together.

2519
01:49:52,239 --> 01:49:59,200
And um and I I think I can say that

2520
01:49:55,920 --> 01:50:00,880
we've really improved the way that

2521
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,639
[clears throat] county commission board

2522
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:04,639
operates. And I really want to thank

2523
01:50:02,639 --> 01:50:07,280
you, Brian, for coming up with this idea

2524
01:50:04,639 --> 01:50:09,520
about the structure that we have now. I

2525
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:11,679
remember the whole structure and we were

2526
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:14,400
kind of isolated and it was kind of hard

2527
01:50:11,679 --> 01:50:16,719
for public to really you know give us

2528
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:19,119
feedback

2529
01:50:16,719 --> 01:50:22,800
and u

2530
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:26,239
as far as going into the future

2531
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:28,639
so tricky so tricky things changing so

2532
01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:32,000
fast and

2533
01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:34,800
I think we do the best we can

2534
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:36,880
and I've always been open and I know we

2535
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:39,360
all are open

2536
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:42,360
feedback and ideas from our

2537
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,360
constituents.

2538
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:46,280
» That's it.

2539
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,080
» Yes, sir.

2540
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:52,800
» I don't know if Mack has any information

2541
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:55,440
on compensation for boards of

2542
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:57,199
commissions, but if they don't,

2543
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:59,920
something I think we need to look into.

2544
01:50:57,199 --> 01:51:03,119
I've been an employee of number of

2545
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:07,360
counties and I know some counties have I

2546
01:51:03,119 --> 01:51:09,119
think Ratchet pays 20,000 plus for the

2547
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:12,080
payroll but then they don't have the

2548
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:13,840
health insurance. Some counties get a

2549
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:16,480
payroll and then a stipen for each

2550
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:18,880
meeting. So it gets really complicated.

2551
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:21,040
need to find out what's what's out there

2552
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:23,360
and and what is fair because it's not

2553
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:25,679
only fair for the current but it's also

2554
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:27,600
there are you going to attract good

2555
01:51:25,679 --> 01:51:30,600
people the future to fill these

2556
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,600
positions

2557
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:39,280
any other comments

2558
01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:41,199
announcements

2559
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:45,440
going once

2560
01:51:41,199 --> 01:51:47,840
twice all right we'll move along

2561
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:51,840
is there a motion to adjurnn.

2562
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:51,840
» So move support.