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Good evening. [clears throat] Welcome
everyone to the September

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planning commission meeting of with
county. And we have a quorum. Determine

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we have a quorum.
And we will now proceed with the pledge

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of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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[snorts]

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[cough and clears throat]
Our

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next item of business will be the public
hearing.

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Carol Jean Bryant Duncan and Bryant
Compton. Uh I'll entertain

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report from staff at this time.
>> Okay. Um, Bryant Compton wishes to

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subdivide approximately 4.5 acres off of
his property located along Beacher Lane

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in the Fort Chisel Magisterial District
and give it to Carol Jean Bryant Duncan.

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Simultaneously, Miss Duncan wishes to
subdivide approximately 11.3 acres off

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of her property um, located along
Beecher Lane and give it to Mr. Compton.

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Because both parcels do not have 100t
statemaintained road frontage, the

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proposed division of this property would
leave two non-conforming lots. They are

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requesting a variance to section 5.3.18
of the ordinance in order to proceed

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with this proposed division.

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[snorts]

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So, as you can see, they're going to
split it off and kind of make it

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a straighter.
>> Clean it up a little bit.

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» Yes.
[snorts] So, this is the 4.5

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that they will be taken off of this
parcel and 11.3 that'll be taken off of

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this back parcel.

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And so it looks better. You
>> set up those properties.

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» So
right now this one doesn't have a

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rightway. I don't think if I'm not
mistaken.

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Um Miss Duncan is the one that owns this
parcel. So

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it this will give that parcel
when they cut it down through here. It

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will give this parcel the rightway and
then this will be joined with this one

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which will give it
[snorts] the right away over here.

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Yeah. Off of this.
Is that correct?

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» That's my mom's property, but yes, I
>> as well as the one.

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» Oh, okay. So, this one
>> Yeah, this one's yours, right?

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» Okay.

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It didn't have any right away anyway. It
was not any use to them, but it' be use

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to me because I can put cattle on it and
clean it up and

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have as much. [clears throat]
>> So, if you with this parcel here, will

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you take this line out and join it with
this parcel?

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» Well, I guess it would still go with the
property that's in purple there.

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Oh, so you're going to add it to this
parcel.

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» Yes, that's the other land is my mom.
>> Oh, okay. I got you.

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» Louise.
>> Okay, I got you. So, this will be joined

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with this parcel and this will be joined
with this parcel. Yes.

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» Okay, that makes sense.

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» Do y'all understand that? Okay.

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[snorts]

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Anything else from staff?
[clears throat]

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» No, not at this time. All right, we'll
close the staff report and we will open

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up the public comment. If there's anyone
who would like to come speak out, put in

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public on comments on this variance
request, uh, please come up to the

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podium and state your name and address.

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Hello,
>> my name is

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also owner
at top on beach. I just want to make

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sure this it's not interfering with any
right away through beach land right this

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division of properties and adding to
taken from whatever it's not interfering

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with anything there as such because
there there are several people that have

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rightaway on beacher lane and as long as
everything stays the same everything

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should be fine you know I don't think I
think uh the land should be divided up

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however they want it to be divided I
don't you know I don't think anybody has

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a problem with that so uh as long as
rightway is the same I That's fine with

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all land owners.
>> They shouldn't change anything with the

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right way.
>> Right. Right. I didn't think so. I just

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want to be confirmed. That's all that's
all I have to say.

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» Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you.

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Anyone else wish to speak on this? Uh,

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if not, we'll close the public comment
section and we'll go to the next item of

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our planning commission discussion and
action.

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Lane is a private private rideway.
Correct.

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» Correct.
>> So, no state maintained road frontage.

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Never had it. Never will.

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» How wide.
>> Never is a very specific term.

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» Unlikely.
>> How wide is the beacher lane? 20 foot.

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30 foot

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» 20 ft. Okay.
>> I'm just quoting the late Ron Hughes who

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used to be on the board. Used to build
houses. That's that was his always

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comment. Never had never will. So

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» I personally don't see a problem with
it.

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» I make a motion to approve the areas as
requested.

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» It's been so moved to approve. Have a
second.

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Right. It did.
>> All right. It's been properly moved and

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seconded. We'll do a a vote from this
side to this side.

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» I
>> I

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» I
>> And your variance is is granted. Thank

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you.

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[clears throat]

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And our next meeting,

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» we do exciting stuff in here. [laughter]
Such a crowd.

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» What else was going on? [laughter]

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» Nothing. Looks like a quiet night.

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» And our next item is citizens time. If
anyone else in the galler gallery would

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like to speak on any subject, you're
welcome to it.

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» Okay.
>> If there's no one no citizens time

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comments, uh I'll we'll go to the next
item. Five minutes of the prior meeting.

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I didn't see anything wrong with with
them. I moved to approve them, sir.

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» Yeah, I I read through it also and
didn't didn't find any discrepancies.

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I'll entertain a motion.
>> I did.

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» Oh, okay. I have a second. It's been
properly moved and seconded to approve

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the prior meetings minutes. We'll do a
vote from right to left again.

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» I

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» And now we'll proceed with the
subdivision ordinance report.

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Mrs. ship.
[clears throat]

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» Um, Roger and Beverly Win recently
conveyed 2.593 acres to their adjoining

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owner, Michael Jones. Simultaneously,
through a lot line revision, Mr. Jones

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combined the 2.593 acres with his 12.589
acre parcel um portion of tax map

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50-251B
and with his 1.201 2011 parcel 50-2124

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making a new revised parcel 16.383
acres. Mr. W also through a lot line

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revision combined his 3.793 acre parcel
remaining tax map 50-251B

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and his 2.1585
acre parcel 51-128B

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making the new revised parcel 3.793
acres. Mr. and Mrs. wind through a lot

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line revision combined their two
remaining parcels of 780

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51-251A
and 1.40 acre 51-251 making the new

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revised parcel of 2.180
acres all partial parcels will be used

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as residential agricultural and all
parcels will be served by public water

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and private sewer and this plat was
recorded August the 19th.

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This was a lot.

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[snorts] So, not only did they combine
all of this and then these two,

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then the winds combined their two
parcels,

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which was

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right here on that.
>> It was a lot, which is good. I mean,

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they're cleaning stuff up, but

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questions

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» when they're cleaning stuff up. We don't
have too many questions about that.

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» Okay.
So the next one is the Gross Gross

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Brothers um recently conveyed 314 acres
to their adjoining owner Buford Sers

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Sawyers I'm sorry simultaneously through
a lot line revision Mr. Sawyers combined

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the 314 acres um with 71-86A
making the new revised parcel lot 1.094

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acres and revised lot two will be
172.193 acre residual. Lot one will be

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used as residential and lot two will be
used as agricultural. Both parcels are

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being served by private water and
private sewer. And this plat was

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recorded August the 12th.

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This is the property I mentioned during
our joint meeting with the board

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on the
land use ordinance that that was listed

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as national forest. this one that lot
two it is not national forest so that

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was the one I was mentioning
>> okay I think

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» it's private rather than national forest
>> have we cleaned that up I think we've

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cleaned that up since that
>> I don't know the GIS has been updated I

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haven't looked so

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Yep.

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» Is the rest of that that's
>> Yes. That in the brown is is a private

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property, not national forest.

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They got it's been it's included with
the whole Ravens Cliff Collins Cove

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area.
>> Huh.

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» You see that Matt

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» and that conservation recreation that
that is Craig Gross close house. This

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should be agriculture or not.

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The light brown.
>> Yeah, that's the gross close brothers.

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We'll have to look at that.

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Okay, any more questions?
>> Yeah, that actually helped that out

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because they found out when they had it
surveyed because they're in the process

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of selling that lot too, uh, the
property line went through the house.

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You can see it there.
>> Mhm.

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» Except far the house.

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Anything

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else? Nope.

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All right. [clears throat]

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So, the next one is

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actually lost my folder. There it is.

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Robert and Jean Lance recently conveyed
1.41 acres to their adjoining owners

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Mary and William Crossup.
Simultaneously through a lot line

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revision, Mr. and Mrs. Crosscup combined
the 1.418 acres with their 1.721 acre

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parcel, making the new revised parcel
3.139 acres. All parcels will be used as

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residential and all part parcels will be
served by public water and private

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sewer. And this plat was recorded August
the 24th.

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Any

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questions, comments?

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I don't have any.
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» So, the next one um through a lot line
revision, Mr. Paul Go and Mr. Paul

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Dwayne Go recently resubdivided their
property of 18 parcels totaling

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104.28289 28 289 acres located along
Alagany Road in the Fort Chisel

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Magisterial District to create one
revised parcel. This parcel will be

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served by private water and private
sewer and this parcel will continue to

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be used for agricultural purposes.
And this plat was recorded I don't

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remember

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August 26th.

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That's all I have on those.

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» Yeah, just by the looks of that, that
was one of those

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[snorts] subdivisions that
Harold Len surveyor did back in the 70s,

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early 80s,
>> all those small lots

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of but long.
>> You can see examples of that through

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that throughout the county.
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» I see them every day
>> in the one lot that cleans up things all

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I have the subdivision. And

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our next item, if there's no this shel
is finished, we'll go to the coming

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events.

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See the board of supervisors meeting on
September 8th at 6:00 p.m. and September

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22nd at 6 pm.
And the planning commission next meeting

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is October 5th at 6 pm and next Monday
is a Labor Day holiday and

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on October 12th it's Columbus Day. So
>> just as a reminder, Mr. Chairman, our

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community input session for planning
commission and the board is Thursday of

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this
>> Thursday night.

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» It's not on your calendar, but uh
>> Scott Memorial 6 o'clock.

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» Yes, sir.
>> And that's going to be in

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gym.
>> Scott Memorial Gymnasium. Yes.

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» So that was the former auxiliary gym,
right? No, it's a new

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» No, they built a new one.
>> New gym.

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» So, it' be set up so that each district
has a table. Folks can go to their

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district and talk to their particular
representatives.

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The um

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the folks who come are welcome to talk
to any of the supervisors and planning

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commissioners who are there. Um, but we
particularly want them to talk to their

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district supervisor
and with their feelings about the the

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ordinance and the map be known and staff
will be mingling around and answering

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questions. You know, once folks are done
talking to you if they've got additional

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questions for staff, they can come and
talk to us or if you all need somebody

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to answer questions, you can signal to
us and we'll we'll come and respond.

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» We'll take them way for you then.
[laughter]

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Fingers are appreciated.

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» I said wave.
>> You did say wave, but you just say I say

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California. I said wait. [laughter]
>> Some of us just give one if we're lucky.

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» And our next item of business will be
our manufacturing home ordinance request

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for revision of a special permit. Mr.
Scott Horn.

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» Yes.
So, I sent this memorandum trying to

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break it down for you all to understand
what what he is asking for. Um, Mr.

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Scott, Jimmy Scott Horn of 6332 Stony
Fork Road, Whitfield, Virginia, is

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applying for a revision to an already
established campground located at 5965

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Stony Fork Road, US Route 52 in the
Black Magisterial District. The special

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[clears throat] use permit was granted
on November the 27th, 2018 by the

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planning commission and then the board
of supervisors on December the 11th,

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2018. Mr. Horn is proposing to take out
campsites 10, 11, and 12 and a storage

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building that was on the property. Mr.
Horn would like to leave nine campsites

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and add one two-bedroom mobile home
site. Attached are maps of the current

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RV campground and one showing what
changes he is proposing.

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I spoke with um Stacy Tuck Holiday in
the W with County Health Department

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concerning the septic. He stated the
requirements for a septic is 150 gallons

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per day per bedroom and 100 gallons per
day per camper. There are two septic

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systems on the property and since this
septic system was okay for eight

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campers, if Mr. Horn takes out three
campsites camper sites, it should be

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good for two for a two-bedroom mobile
home.

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So, this is what it was previous.
And he's wanting to take out 10, 11, and

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12. And
I think this building's already gone. Is

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that correct?
>> Yes.

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» Okay. So, this will be what it's he's
proposing is to take those out and put

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the double wide trailer right there.

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I mean, it's the safety people saying
it's going to work. I got

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I got nothing wrong with that.
>> She's changing this the type of

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structure there instead of like quantity
versus

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problem with
>> you. We need a motion for that.

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Yeah.
>> Yes.

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» We'll need a motion to approve it
>> to

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» to approve it.
>> So move.

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» I I believe your motion is that the
board of supervisors recommend board of

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supervisors approve. The planning
commission recommends the board of

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supervisors approve request as
presented.

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» That sounds good. Thank you, sir.

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» Who second? It's been moved and
seconded.

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» We'll have a vote to recommend this to
the board of supervisors.

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» I
>> I

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» Motion carries.

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This will go to the board of
supervisors. Which meeting?

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probably the second September meeting
because we've

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» public hearing.
>> No public hearing required. It could be

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the meeting next week or as you get it
on the agenda.

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» So, it'll probably be at the September
22nd meeting.

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» Yeah, think we could do it at the
September 8th meeting next Tuesday.

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All right. Nothing else on that item.
We'll go to our next item is new

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business application for creation of a
and for districtformational

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purposes.

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[snorts]
>> Whoops.

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So um I I went ahead and updated this
agon and enforcal district um

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application for a new this is for a new
agon forestal district um it had said

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previously
um I can't remember the exact wording

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but I changed it from uh accompanied by
maps andor aerial imagery or photographs

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that clearly show the boundaries
I don't remember exactly how it was

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worded before. I wish I'd brought a copy
of it, but I forgot to.

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» Um, but it was saying something about
like satellite imagery or something. And

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so I just fixed it to where we could
actually use our GIS or pictures or

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» sketches or whatever.
>> Yeah. Something instead of

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» trying to be too complicated.
>> We did on the last

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I'm going to guess Eric and Andy and
them. They did theirs back in the 80s.

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70s 80s.
>> Yep.

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» Am I Am I guessing pretty closely? I
know we we did did ours in the 90s

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» that Yeah. The Crockett Cove was
>> uh there's East Crock East Crockett Cove

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and Crockett Cove.
>> Mhm. Yeah.

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» Um and
>> that should have been the 90s or early

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2000s.
>> 99.

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» Okay.
And then uh like I said, Eric and them,

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they're 10 15 years ahead of us. So, it
might have been in the 70s.

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» That should be the only ones that I know
of that were that's out there other than

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the last ones here.
>> Mhm.

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» Cuz you got about two this I know Doug
Wilson's one two and then the one down

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eastern end close to where this thousand
acre is at coming to that that they're

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looking at it. Did anything come out
about that one?

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» You haven't heard? Okay.
>> Okay.

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I talked to Ethan Henderson the other
week, whatever. He talked like that they

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were going to do one the one that the
one person who's a joining land owner

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toward the site is going to be he didn't
want to join because he says if if it it

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comes to fruition that this this does
come about, he'll sell his property and

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move.
>> I don't know who that was.

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as what what Ethan said that he would
sell his property and move.

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» So what what do you need from us, Lisa?
Do you need us to

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» Nothing. This is justformational. Just
letting you know that I changed it.

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Uh,
did you put here what the fee is

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[snorts] for that amount?
>> No, that I'm going have to run that

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through the first meeting.
>> Supervisors.

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» Yes. So, with the new with the new one,
it's $500. We've already got that

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established. So, I'm going to have to
run um No, I'll have to run it through

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the committee when we first meet on the
committee, the aforestal district

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committee. Okay. Okay,
>> I'll run it through them as to how much

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they want to do it for.
>> I think

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» Do you have a committee with that or
not? Or

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» I'm working on trying to get one. I'm
having a really hard time getting people

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to want to do it.
>> Eric or something like that there to the

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Andy or something that ones that been on
it that done it before.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah. Just tell us.

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» Yeah. I know a lot of the land owners
[clears throat] over in my area have got

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conservation easements.
>> Yeah. on their properties now help on to

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help with tax purposes,
but I don't know whether they want to

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voluntarily do this or not. And
>> that would be defeating their purpose

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with that.
>> Yeah. If they've got conservation

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easements, I wouldn't I wouldn't fool
with this.

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» I would go backwards

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» because that's a permanent thing.
>> Yeah, cuz you have to have 250 acres,

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right?
>> 250 core,

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» right? And then as much as you want
within a mile

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» if someone if someone doesn't border you
that they can be a mile down the road.

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» Correct. Still still attached to your
>> It don't matter if it's five acres,

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» two acres, they can attach to it,
>> but it would still have to be eggland.

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» Yes.
>> It couldn't be they if all they had have

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is just a house site for 5 acres that
wouldn't be considered.

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I don't know about what they
>> because you can't generate you can't

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generate any kind of income.
>> Would that be correct?

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» I don't
as long as you make $1,000 farming if

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it's considered agricultural
>> if it if you have a five acre house.

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» So that's for land use
>> to get your land use correct. But with a

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forestal
that's a tough question.

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» The small part [snorts] I've done a
forestal district since I've been here.

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This is plowing new ground for me. But
um I I believe you can include the

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smaller parcels in your in your
district. Um but you've got to have that

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core like Lisa's talking about.
>> You still wouldn't include a house site.

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I wouldn't think.

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» Wouldn't think.
>> But a house with five acres.

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» Sure.
>> That's

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houses are allowed in agriculture
anyway.

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» So you you could have it all under one
umbrella like that eent you're talking

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about there. I don't see why they would
could unless they wanted to keep it

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separate. Guess they want to sell it
separate from the other.

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» I don't know why you'd want to separate
just put it all together.

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» I can't imagine somebody residential
would go into the

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if they decided to move.
>> Yeah. House right in the middle. you

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know, just sell the property around or
sell the property in the middle the

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other end of that e

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see
that one's

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in the agon forestal district. It's
1.825 acres.

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» Is that my way?
>> Mhm.

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» Okay. Or that one.
>> Yeah. See that? They don't own that one.

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It's Anthony Fodell.
>> Was that at the church or is that

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located?
>> No, it's it's right here. Right off

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Smooth Hollow.
>> Okay. It's up on the right hand side.

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It's
>> not far from my daughter's. [laughter]

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» Yeah. Okay. Across the street from
there.

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» Mhm.
>> Yeah.

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I mean, I don't
these I'm sure is because they're joined

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with this one, but they're small
parcels, too.

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» That's They were all house tracks when
they were sold back in the 80s and 90s.

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» A bunch of those. That's what they were.
That was all Vanar property.

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» That was all house tracks.

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I mean,

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I don't think it really matters if they
want to add it into it. See, there's

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another one.
>> That's yours.

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» Mhm.
>> On yours, your parcel.

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» Thought you was getting close to ours.
Mhm.

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» Yeah.
I mean, that that's the house site. I

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reckon that's that house right there is
not not in there.

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» That's Chuck and Ashley.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.
>> That's all.

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» But they could put it in there clearly.
>> I mean that

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» if they wanted to.
>> Yeah. I think it the way I would look at

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it, you got to look look at the rules. I
I would think you have to generate some

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kind of income. You can generate
something, but I mean you have to

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generate that.
>> I have to look into it.

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» Be considered, you know, even for land
use or even the act forest district.

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Yeah, I I'll look into it and see. I
don't know that there's any rules that

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says how much it has to be. I just know
it has to be a core of 250.

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» Yeah, you have to have that core to
start with. Yes.

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» Each one of these is a standalone
ordinance, right?

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» Yes.
>> East Crockett Cove and Crockett Cove is

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together. And then there's Fair View and
then there's Gutton Park. That's the

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only ones we've got.
>> But but you have to pass a separate

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ordinance to institute one.
>> Correct.

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» And it's not a permanent one. So it's
not codified in our our code of

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ordinances. U each one would then fall
under its own rules and guidelines.

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» Correct.
>> As it develops.

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» And they would be
it it could be four years up to 10

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years.
>> I know when we did it the first time we

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did it for four.
>> Yep. I said, "Well, we do it for four

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and if you like it, you stay with the do
the 10 then." Some of them stayed, some

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of them did not.
>> Yep.

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» That's That's what we done.
>> I think that's what all of them's

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basically done. They started out as
four,

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» did it?
>> And then moved to 10.

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» Yep. So, they're all at 10 now.
>> Okay. Guten Park is at 10, too.

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» Mhm. Okay.
>> Yeah. It's not due. Well, Guten Park and

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Crocus Cove is due right now. Fair view
is due in 29.

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» We're due next year, you said.
>> Yes.

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» Yeah.
>> Uh, one's in March and one's in May.

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» Okay.
>> I think Gutton Park's in March and yours

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is in May.
>> Okay.

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» We'll do it all at the same time,
though.

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One meeting for all of it.
you we have to have a a special

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meeting just
or do we have to have a meeting with

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with us to do that? I mean
uh so

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well I like I said I have to gather up a
a committee and then we'll go we'll have

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to have a meeting in January. I I said
I'm not going to start in December,

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which is
>> no

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» when we should, but I it's too much
going on in December. So, I'll just

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it'll be like right after the first of
the year. I'll have a first meeting

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» and I assume I'll send out a letter to
everyone with the application so that

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everybody can fill it out and bring it
back to us and then we'll decide whether

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there's going to be a fee or not at the
first meeting. And then, you know, I

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have some neighbors there that that may
want to put their parcels in if they do.

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» Yes.
>> They they're more than welcome to come

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and add it to it. Yep.
>> I have the the one one the first is Mr.

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Hutchek. He has 25 acres and he has land
use and then I take and farm his

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property. Then then the other guy in New
Jersey, he has 200 some acres and

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there's about 40 50 acres there that I
can that's open to that. We can do do

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his
>> and we've got to take care of Mr. Mc

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McNameer.
>> McNamera.

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» Yeah.
>> Yep.

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» We got to take care of his at this too.
>> That's it.

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And there any other discussion on the
agricultural districts?

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If nothing else on this item, we'll uh
go to the county engineer report. Mr.

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Ker.

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Oh,
>> I didn't think you had anything.

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» Sorry.

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Huh?
>> You said

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» that's the new one. Right

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there.

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» Yeah.

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That's good picture.

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I'm trying.

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» Johnny, you're having about as much luck
as I did at work today. We had a meeting

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and uh plug that little thing in the
side of the computer like I s on the

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screen there and you hit it and it never
would connect to

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What's that? There
>> you tell it to share.

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» There you go. You have to tell it.

439
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:59,599
» Thank you.
>> We got a picture of Johnny.

440
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:04,560
» All right. This is lot 35.
Uh this is their construction entrance.

441
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:09,920
Uh this is the giant storm water
management basin, ENS basin. You can see

442
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:14,800
they got the the liner on the outside of
the burn liner on the inside.

443
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:20,240
Um
of course this is a

444
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:24,079
that's the same pond. It's just a little
I'm going around taking pictures. This

445
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:30,119
is the other little pond. Well, actually
a pretty good size pond as well that

446
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,119
they're constructing over here.

447
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:37,920
Right here's the other pond. And of
course, they've got uh

448
00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:43,280
big old top soil stockpile right here.
The silo is still standing.

449
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:47,839
This is coming on around. This is
Gatorade and Amcore,

450
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:53,760
y'all. Yeah, y'all can see my cursor,
can't you? They got a big old uh stock

451
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:59,839
top soil stockpile here as well. They
got a lot of their materials and uh car

452
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:03,800
parking and gravel and stuff over here.
the little trailers and everything.

453
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:14,079
So anyway, just wanted to show you what
what's going on on the site.

454
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,880
» Where's the structure going to be
exactly? Right there near the solid on

455
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:25,839
this side of the solid.
>> The structure the building

456
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:29,319
» the building is going to be uh basically
right in here.

457
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Let me get my bearing. Yeah, the
building's going to be like right in

458
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,200
through here.

459
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:44,920
Kind of at a little bit of an angle like
this because it's kind of squared up

460
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,920
with the basins down here.

461
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:53,280
Here's the other little basin that they
constructed.

462
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,760
This is, of course, you can see the
railroad in Kinslane.

463
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:02,240
If you look off in the distance, I think
Bottomley has more equipment uh going

464
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,400
picking corn back there than they got on
this site.

465
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:11,440
We couldn't figure out what it was for
the longest time, but say they're doing

466
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:15,440
a pretty good job on the ENS. They've
got the outlet protection. They've got

467
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:21,280
their silk fence. They got the matting.
So, so far so good. This one here is

468
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:27,200
telling
>> them about the silk fence.

469
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:32,160
» The silk fence is is a reinforced silk
fence. It has a chain link fence on the

470
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:37,680
back side of it. It's not your stuff
that you see at Lowe's. It's uh a lot

471
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:44,160
stronger. Plus, it's reinforced with
chain link fence on the back side. Uh I

472
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:50,640
don't think I can zoom in close enough
so you can see it, but it's it's it's a

473
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:55,280
very strong uh silt fence. It's not
super silk fence. I think it's actually

474
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:58,000
stronger than super silk fence.
What was the reason for putting it

475
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,520
there?
>> They wanted to make sure that nothing

476
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:05,760
was going to get away from them.
>> It's a It's about that tall, but it's

477
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,960
silk fence that, you know, you see sil
fence on jobs gets hit with water, blows

478
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,319
out.
>> Uh I don't think this is going to do

479
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:17,280
that. The chain link fence behind it
plus the spacing on the post is

480
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:20,280
» closer than it should be or closer than
required.

481
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:28,960
This is the outlet structure. Um,
they're not quite finished with it, but

482
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:33,599
it's really close. You can see it has
the anti- vortex, so it doesn't vortex.

483
00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:40,319
When it vortex, it slows the water down,
actually. So, these little baffles in

484
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:43,599
here keeps it from creating a vortex.
And also, this is the trash rack. It

485
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:47,280
keeps all the trash from getting out. It
goes up and under, the water will go

486
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:53,680
underneath and then over the crest of
the spillway.

487
00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:57,359
This is a
uh slope protection. This is a slope

488
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,359
drain coming into the basin. You can see
it's got outlet protection. It's got the

489
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:05,119
slope drain. It actually has inlet
protection as well. So, this is to

490
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,319
protect the slope of your pond. A lot of
people will run ditches right into the

491
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,400
pond. And then once it gets to that
slope on the pond, it'll eat it out.

492
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,079
» That one will be grassed over
eventually.

493
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:19,920
» It's they've really, if you can see,
some of these areas are getting green.

494
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,400
But that's what that's what you'll have
eventually that they'll all be grassed,

495
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,400
right?
>> Yeah.

496
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:34,400
And that's me and Will. [laughter]
But that's all I have. We did go around

497
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,160
and verify that was bottomly picking
corn. There was a lot of dust coming off

498
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:43,359
that site. We couldn't figure out what
it was, but it was it was bottomly

499
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:48,000
picking corn down Kitten Lane, not Kint
Lane. Back behind State Police

500
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:51,640
Headquarters.
Y'all got any questions?

501
00:46:55,839 --> 00:47:03,599
» Did you get all the um railroad ties and
all that kind of stuff fixed down there?

502
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:10,640
You was going to fix
>> We've got the railroad fixed at crossing

503
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,920
uh re-auged. We still have some issue.
Um

504
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:18,160
uh we've talked to some engineers and
stuff about what we can do to fix that

505
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:22,480
curve so it'll stay engaged longer.
We've got gauge rods all the way around

506
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:27,359
it. Uh seems like the tangent section
stay uh engaged a lot better than the

507
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:32,960
curve. So we're looking at options
there. Um I just sent Stephen a internal

508
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:38,000
cost estimate on what I think it'll
cost. It's It's pretty expensive, but

509
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:43,359
um I think we can probably do it a
little bit cheaper, but

510
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:49,200
um I got to talk to some of the railroad
folks. What they're recommending is, uh

511
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:55,680
heavier gauge rail in the curve with the
wider plates, uh mainline ties, which

512
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:59,200
are a little bit bigger, more robust.
And uh to replace that, we would have to

513
00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:03,520
do it a little bit at a time so we keep
Gatorade running. You can tie it to the

514
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:08,720
existing rail. So, it just takes a a
different kind of plate because the

515
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:13,800
heavier gauge rail is a little taller,
but that's what we did at the crossing

516
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,800
when we fixed it.

517
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:20,960
We're still looking at options there,
though, to try to long-term fix. Save

518
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,839
the county a bunch of money hopefully
because we're spending quite a bit of

519
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:26,839
money keeping that thing engaged right
now.

520
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:38,319
that the data center you just had up on
the screen. How many acres is the

521
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:43,680
building?
>> 11 acres, 500,000 square feet somewhere

522
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:48,160
around there. Uh the site itself is 68
acres. Uh that's the limits of

523
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:53,359
disturbance. They've actually reduced
that a little bit because uh they

524
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:58,960
shifted the pond away from the trees so
they wouldn't have to get into the trees

525
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:02,960
and get into the bat migration stuff.
So, the pond's going to stay the exact

526
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:09,280
same volume, exact same elevations and
everything. It just won't be uh it'll be

527
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:14,240
a 52 feet closer to the building
so they can save the trees.

528
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:18,280
The total property in the lot is 99
acres.

529
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,280
» Yeah.

530
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,000
» Essentially
half a Gatorade.

531
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,520
» Yeah. Gatorade's about a million square
feet, I think. Any

532
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:38,280
other questions for Mr. Cancer?

533
00:49:40,284 --> 00:49:42,304
[clears throat]

534
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:53,079
If if no more questions for Mr. Ker,
we'll have our exeicio report with Mr.

535
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:53,079
Bernett.

536
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:05,760
» I have a few things.
one, we've uh approved the 1% tax to be

537
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:10,319
voted on this fall. And so I went around
to the school says the school is

538
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:16,559
havingformational session. So I went to
Fort Chisel, listened to uh Dr. Street

539
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:21,680
do the presentation. He does a very good
presentation. There wasn't anything that

540
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:28,720
I could add. Um,
so basically the 1% during the lifetime

541
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:35,440
would do $73 million worth of school
construction that we could start this

542
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:41,119
spring and and do all the school
constructions all at once and and and so

543
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:47,920
in about a three to four year period
we'd have all of our schools done for

544
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:54,160
Chisel, the new Scott Spiller School,
however they're going to call that um

545
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:59,119
ball fields, lights, tracks,
just about anything that uh not just

546
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:04,240
about anything but I mean you know the
fair amount u

547
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:08,880
just forformational purposes we are
carrying right now that wouldn't do the

548
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:16,079
1% would do nothing with this because
it's only for future school but right

549
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:22,160
now we have roughly $26.7 million of
school school debt that would

550
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:26,640
as the one if the 1% passes, we would
start Fort Chisel and well, we'd start

551
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:33,359
the the new elementary school in Fort
Chisel, but we'd be paying that debt

552
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:39,119
down and it would almost be over with by
the time the 1%'s over with. So, so we

553
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:47,119
conceivably see it our debt being paid
down normally and then the 1% being u

554
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:52,400
taken care of future school
construction.

555
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:58,160
We estimated that 40% of the 1% would be
paid for by travelers. So, so that's

556
00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:02,800
better than just about any other county
around us that only has one interstate

557
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:08,319
going through them like Pilaski or or
Smith or you know. So uh so we are in a

558
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:14,640
very good position. School board
actually has almost everything in place

559
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:20,880
to be able to move really quickly on the
new Scott Spiller Elementary School. So

560
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:25,839
I mean that would be once they knew they
could do that. I mean they've done got

561
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:29,599
preliminary drawings. They've done I
mean I don't know how much more they

562
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:37,680
would need but they're super close to
that. Um, so tell people about the 1%.

563
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:43,839
Uh, the other week, uh, four of us and
and a bunch of county staff went to

564
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:48,480
visit data centers in Hero County. We
met with their economic development

565
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:53,119
authority and they told us that they
started building data centers in the

566
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:58,559
late 90s and they have continue to
building them. They're uh they have one

567
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:03,839
main industrial park that has right now
about 24 data centers. When they get

568
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:09,599
done, they'll have about 35 data
centers. And so they it stretches over

569
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:15,680
almost 30 years. Uh we asked them
numerous questions of of of

570
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:22,559
water usage. Uh they said their water
usage was about 2% of what Henrio County

571
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:30,079
uses, which was about 57,000 gallons a
day on last year's numbers. We couldn't

572
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:35,200
find this year's current numbers. U we
actually went and visited 14 data

573
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:41,760
centers. We went around and looked. They
do use enormous amounts of electricity,

574
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:46,640
but as far as noise, u we couldn't
determine any additional noise. The road

575
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:53,599
noise behind us was more louder than
than the the data centers. We um didn't

576
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:58,319
have any really good ma metrices to to
determine temperature, but 15 miles away

577
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:05,119
was the same temperature as it was right
next to them. So, I don't know how well

578
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:09,359
that was. Um we asked them about water
discharge if they noticed over the years

579
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:15,440
any additional water discharge going to
their sewer system. So so a lot of good

580
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:21,200
information as far as you know the data
centers and and and some of the concerns

581
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:28,240
that uh we
had that we read same as as everybody

582
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:35,520
else reads. And um so you know we came
back uh I I shared the information with

583
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:40,240
uh at the data center out on the east
very eastern end of the county. They're

584
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:44,400
wanting to uh be open and they they
expressed interest. That's the reason

585
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:49,280
y'all all have their contact information
and they want to do community meetings

586
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:56,400
and they want to talk to everyone and uh
they want to talk to the homeowners and

587
00:54:51,040 --> 00:55:01,599
and and be as open and approachable as
possible is what they indicated to us.

588
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:06,960
And um
so

589
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:12,960
some of the things that that u even
though we don't want to count our

590
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:18,160
chickens uh for the X hatch
is some of the possible thoughts of

591
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:27,280
using the money from the one in Progress
Park is uh to help pay that school debt

592
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:34,800
that we uh we was talking about just
earlier of the 26 million, but we also

593
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:41,119
carry about 25 26 million of debt in the
water services and um that money could

594
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:46,079
be applied to that. so that we can pay
that debt down and try to lower our

595
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:50,960
water costs at the same time and do
additional projects to get water to more

596
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,599
county citizens. Those are just some
things that's being tossed out. We we've

597
00:55:53,119 --> 00:56:03,760
indicated that we was going to do some
uh task force groups with like u school

598
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:11,040
board members and and community members
just to get a plan in place for the

599
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:19,839
additional revenue from the
progress park. um that way. And again,

600
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:24,799
uh I remember the glove factory and we
still get no money from it and probably

601
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:29,119
never will at this point. And so until I
actually start seeing money come in, I'm

602
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:34,319
not going to say, you know, because we
can get to the point they could build a

603
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:41,680
building too and then disappear. So, and
that Oh, and I just realized that

604
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:44,240
Sheriff Klein announced that he is
canceling a contract with the flock

605
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,680
cameras.
>> Yep. I got I got that notice on my phone

606
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,440
while I wanted to know that was
literally he posted that on the

607
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:54,000
sheriff's during this meeting. So, about
30 minutes ago

608
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,960
» and that consists of
>> four cameras.

609
00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:03,280
» Four cameras. I know the town of Whiff
has

610
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:07,200
» one max is going into town going toward
>> one on 21 at the carpet outlet.

611
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,200
» There's three
townreat's

612
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:22,720
involved in this stuff too.
>> Well, there's three there's three flock

613
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:26,160
cameras at Lowe's pointed inside the
parking lot. It's the Lowe's owns those

614
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,839
cameras.
>> So that's all I had unless y'all had

615
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:35,280
questions.
>> I got one for you on this AI place down

616
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:40,079
in [clears throat]
K Eastern Pan. How far along are they

617
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:46,160
with this? Are they in the plan stage
turning in plans or

618
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:51,359
» right now? They do not own any property
>> and they have no permits

619
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:57,359
» just testing water. Well, they they've
done their geotech. They've submitted a

620
00:57:54,160 --> 00:58:03,520
288 page plan set to the county engineer
for review and DEEQ as well. They've

621
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:10,160
submitted for their storm water plans
and their [clears throat] their ENS

622
00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:15,359
plans will follow that. So, but they're
they're pretty far along.

623
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:19,280
» They they have until bas based on the
document that they filed with the court.

624
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:27,760
uh that their option runs through
January 4th of 2027. So they have

625
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:32,000
another three months, four months to u
finalize their land transaction.

626
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:37,359
» And this this will be grandfathered if
this would happen any zoning stuff that

627
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:42,000
would bar in the works.
>> If there is an affirmative government

628
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:45,599
act between now and uh the time that the
zoning is implemented, then yes, they

629
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,240
would be grandfathered.
>> But have their permits between now and

630
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:55,440
then they have to come
>> it would go before the zoning. So

631
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:58,559
» other question the data center that's
coming in at Progress Park, do we know

632
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,839
who the consumer is going to be for that
data center?

633
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:06,799
» Uh they have not publicly indicated
that. Um if you do some research on

634
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:11,440
Fluid Stack and their connections, you
can probably

635
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:17,359
probably infer who that's going to be.
uh and it is a compute campus as I

636
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:24,319
understand not a storage campus. So it's
you know compute campuses generally

637
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:28,480
support AI or uh computing functions.
>> I think there's some concerns with the

638
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:33,040
not knowing because other projects that
have been done in the past have not come

639
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,960
to fruition. So I think if we're going
to do other projects we need to think

640
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:41,760
about the stability of jobs that are
coming in for our community because

641
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:45,280
several projects fall by the wayside and
didn't have a lot of good information

642
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:51,960
about consumer
consumer

643
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,960
» when we met with the uh

644
00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:01,520
I can't say that publicly yet
>> um

645
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:06,720
so generally if you look at the the
industry um

646
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:12,480
you have
companies like Anthropic or GBT, you

647
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:16,880
know, some of those that are on the AI
side

648
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:24,480
along with your big four, you know, your
Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, and

649
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:28,079
» Google. Um, so
those are your main players. And what

650
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:32,559
happens frequently is that you'll get a
company that will come in, they'll

651
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:36,079
identify a site, they'll they'll make
all the arrangements for the the power

652
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:40,640
and any utilities that are needed. they
they'll develop that initial plan and

653
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:46,160
then those get bought out by a secondary
and then there's a final user that will

654
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:49,839
be that third transaction. It's a lot
like it's a lot like the solar farms

655
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:53,880
that the ones that show up first are not
the ones that are going to operate it.

656
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:10,000
» Uh m Mr. Burn it. Of the 14 data centers
you went and visited,

657
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:15,359
was any of those a Google data center
or Alphabet?

658
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:20,640
That's the parent company of Google?
>> I remember the only one that I remember

659
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:25,280
specifically was the the Meta and there
were several of those

660
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:30,160
» and it's one of Meta's largest campuses
in in the world.

661
01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:34,640
Yeah, Meta is the parent company of
Facebook and Instagram.

662
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:36,799
» That's the only one I can remember
specifically.

663
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:42,720
» See, that's the fuss. That's the fuss
they had down in Ron Oak about the water

664
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:46,160
» because Google uses
they don't use a closed loop. They use

665
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:51,760
they just bring the water in, run it
across their chillers, and put it back

666
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:55,680
out in the in the wastewater. And I know
they announced they're going to do a

667
01:01:53,200 --> 01:02:02,079
closed loop system down the bottom top
because Carman's Cove cannot take that

668
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:06,720
much water out every day. 13 to 14
million gallons I think is what it was.

669
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:11,520
So
I was just wondering if you that was one

670
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:18,960
of the things that they they indicated
that every one of their data centers u

671
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:24,720
was closed loop or recycled their water.
and uh and that was the reason their

672
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:34,319
water usage was only 2% of what the
county used. Um

673
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:40,480
and and they did indicate that their
covenants and their zoning uh helped in

674
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:44,799
controlling how they built those data
centers because some of the data centers

675
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:50,240
are required to be built to a certain
energy level. Um and and so of course

676
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:54,079
the higher energy level you go, the more
expensive it is. And the buildings was

677
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:58,480
actually really attractive. I mean, they
they wasn't they didn't look like jail

678
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:03,440
prisons or I mean, they looked, you
know, really nice structures. The

679
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:07,440
grounds around it was kept really nice.
Um because it was all flat. You really

680
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:12,160
didn't know there was anything there
until the driveway opened up between the

681
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:17,119
trees and then you could see. And uh
they like planting lots of vegetation

682
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:22,240
around them for various reasons. one,
they're very secure areas. I mean, they

683
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:28,000
all have security guards and and nice
big tall fencing and and that kind of

684
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:36,400
thing. And um and and true, they do use
a lot of power and they did have long

685
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:39,200
lines of generators sitting there. Um
but

686
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:42,160
» were most of these in industrial parks
or just house?

687
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:46,960
» There was there was a big industrial
park. Um,

688
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:50,640
and then the 600 there there was a few
that scattered out in the county. They

689
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:55,839
said, uh, that of course we didn't go
see. Uh, what I did notice they building

690
01:03:53,359 --> 01:04:02,640
several in the main industrial park and
the dump truck traffic was crazy. It was

691
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:08,480
bumper to bumper worse than what was
actually out on the interstates and and

692
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:12,000
around the you know where you you know I
don't know how many people went to

693
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:17,119
Richmond but you know the traffic was
worse with dump trucks in the industrial

694
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:21,839
park than it was out in in the county.
Um, and you know, it was one of the

695
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:27,839
things that that I thought about when
they leased the lot right next to the

696
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:34,720
one in Progress Park to move that dirt
to keep those dump trucks off of our our

697
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:37,680
VOTE roads. U because I mean it it was
just unbelievable. I mean it was and it

698
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:42,720
wasn't just dump trucks. I mean it was
road tractors, dump trailers. I mean

699
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:46,559
bumper to bumper. I mean it it's hard to
explain how many dump trucks there was.

700
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,559
a lot of equipment moving from sight to
sight.

701
01:04:54,799 --> 01:05:00,640
» I I'll follow up on that if you don't
mind. We've had a lot of questions about

702
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:04,559
water and water usage. And just one
thing for for folks to keep in mind for

703
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:10,000
the water that gets distributed through
most of the the town or most of the

704
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:15,920
county system, our maximum lure at the
near river water treatment plant in my

705
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:19,200
neighborhood is 6 million gallons a day.
How long does it take six million

706
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:26,000
gallons to flow by the Ivanho River
gauge on the New River?

707
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Today with a lower water level, it took
about 16 minutes for that maximum to

708
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:35,359
flow by the the Ivanho gauge. So the
water that we actually used today

709
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:39,599
probably took about nine minutes to to
flow by. Well, we don't take all that in

710
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:46,319
at one time, but it gives you some
perspective on how much water we have um

711
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:51,280
how much capacity we have here.
>> How much would Blue Star want to use

712
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:58,000
water
quantity? How much was Blue Star on on

713
01:05:53,599 --> 01:06:01,760
the books before they left the town?
>> Much much more than any any

714
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,760
» because I mean and that wasn't going to
be treated that was going to be

715
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:08,160
processed and somewhat treated or
released right back into the sewer

716
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,480
system.
>> Right. Uh we were going to have to

717
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:16,240
expand we actually did expand our sewer
system capacity. We have a a pump

718
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:20,880
station that if they were to start
operating tomorrow, we could handle the

719
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:26,880
sewage that they send to us. But um
you're also going to have to expand the

720
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:32,000
wastewater treatment plant on Log and u
since the that project hasn't advanced,

721
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:38,480
we haven't proceeded with expanding the
treatment capacity. Um we have the plans

722
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:44,240
um but we we could probably get that bid
out within a couple months and get that

723
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:48,880
project back underway, but um we're not
having to do that. the um the data

724
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:54,720
center in Progress Park has filed a
permit for 3,000 gallons of waste water

725
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:57,520
a day. So, it's not even a lip on the
radar for what what passes through the

726
01:06:56,799 --> 01:07:00,079
U.
>> They're going to pre-treat that or just

727
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:04,880
go spread out raw.
>> There's no need for pre-treatment. It's

728
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:09,200
u it's all domestic. So, it's flushing
toilets. It's, you know, running sinks

729
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:13,760
and kitchens. It's washing hands. It's
filling water bottles. Just

730
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,760
» gray water.
Any

731
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:27,839
other questions for Mr. Bernett?
>> Thank you for going and bringing it

732
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:32,920
back.
>> It was a long day.

733
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,920
» It was a long day.

734
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:42,880
» And our next item of business is our
deputy county administrator report.

735
01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:47,920
» I don't have an awful lot to report.
I've been working on things related to

736
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:53,680
um your project and a couple of other
projects. Um

737
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:57,839
so I I have made some changes to the um
the ordinance as as you directed in your

738
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:02,480
joint work session with the board of
supervisors been making map changes and

739
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:07,760
I think we've gotten most of them. There
are still a few that um

740
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:13,839
we may have to do some further sorting
out on. Um,

741
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:17,679
one of the properties that uh, you all
asked to be moved back from industrial

742
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,880
to agricultural,
the property owner would prefer that it

743
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:25,120
remain industrial.
>> Mr. Mr. Bberger,

744
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:28,400
» no. Okay.
>> Mr. Marshall.

745
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:34,560
» Okay.
>> Think I think owns more acreage.

746
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:38,239
» Okay. Well, I' I've talked to him twice.
Um

747
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:46,080
so there there are a few of those that
that you know we we may yet still have

748
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:52,319
to work on. Um there is a draft online u
you know with the the changes uh that

749
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:59,199
have been directed so far. Um
we've had three or four additional

750
01:08:55,759 --> 01:09:05,040
comments come in. Um,
one gentleman in particular submitted

751
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:11,520
very lengthy, probably three or four
pages of requested changes. Um,

752
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:15,279
we will when the time is right and we
have further direction on how to

753
01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:20,480
proceed, we will come back to you with
those and see if you wish to pursue any

754
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:26,080
of them. At this point, staff hasn't
gone in depth. Um the ones that I have

755
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:29,600
looked at I I haven't haven't seen a lot
that I would recommend that you change.

756
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:35,040
Um
but um

757
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:39,679
we will see what happens Thursday uh
with that. Um we'll see what sort of

758
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:46,560
turnout we have. Uh you all may have got
a citizen alert on your phones earlier.

759
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:54,719
Um just reminding folks of that meeting.
um our staff Lisa Allison Williams um

760
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:58,320
Leanne Nester in the administration
office um several others have gone

761
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:03,360
around the county they've distributed
flyers and a lot of the convenience

762
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:09,040
stores um you know different areas
around you parks um you know just if

763
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:13,840
there was a venue that we thought we
could reach people our staff has gone

764
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:19,199
out and and they've done outreach just
trying to publicize this meeting trying

765
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:22,880
to get as participation as we can. Um I
would remind you that so far the the

766
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:26,080
public participation that we've had is
still less than 1% of the county

767
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:31,360
population.
Um we'd like to hear from people, but if

768
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,960
we don't hear from people, what do we
assume?

769
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:40,000
Either they don't care or they don't
think it's going to matter. Um

770
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:43,360
I know which one I tend to fall on. You
know, most people this isn't going to

771
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:48,520
touch their lives, so it's probably not
going to bother them that much.

772
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,520
Um,

773
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:54,560
but I think that people need to realize
that, you know, it does have some

774
01:10:52,800 --> 01:11:00,000
long-term bearing in how we're able to
manage uh the development of of the

775
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:05,280
county. So, we we need to be mindful of
if there's a tool that we can use, it's

776
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:10,280
not going to bother most people.
Let's talk about, you know, what it

777
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:10,280
takes to get that in place.

778
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:22,960
Um,
moving on to broadband. Uh, I did go

779
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:30,000
around on a tour last week with Citizens
Telecom. So, they had their um physical

780
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:33,040
plant manager, their CEO along with
staff from the Mount Rogers Planning

781
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:40,640
District Commission, which is the the
grant holder for this project. Um, and

782
01:11:36,719 --> 01:11:45,440
DHCD. Um so I I tagged along looked at
the areas that they are wrapping up.

783
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:50,640
They are almost through with the uh VD2
project. Um they have uh completed at

784
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:56,320
Miller's Creek. They completed all the
way out Connors Valley Road. Uh they

785
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:59,440
they we went up Stillwell. Um we we we
saw a lot of areas on the eastern end of

786
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:06,400
the county that they were still working
on. Uh they they were um back up in

787
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:12,000
Bertha Farms um trying trying to get um
a lot of that work finished. Um they

788
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:16,719
finally were able to find a rightaway
easement that they were able to attach

789
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:21,520
to and dig their trenches and take their
cable up in there even if they couldn't

790
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:27,280
get land owners to respond uh to request
for easements. So um much of the eastern

791
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:34,000
end of the county will have access to
fiber by the end of September. So they

792
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:40,159
do have some additional funding made
available um in the bead project. Uh so

793
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:46,880
the folks who are in those scattered
sites that were maybe too far from the

794
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:53,199
fiber line to to be served that they
will you know be eligible to to get some

795
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:57,920
funding uh from this particular grant.
Um

796
01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:04,560
so hopefully the folks that want to have
some highspeed access uh will will have

797
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:09,280
access to it by the end of 2027. Are
they doing any Wi-Fi hubs like local

798
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:13,040
community Wi-Fi hubs?
>> Uh they have been trying to they haven't

799
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,640
had a lot of success.
>> Yeah, I read some but I didn't hear the

800
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:22,320
whole
>> um so some of the grant funding required

801
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:26,960
that they make publicly uh accessible
nodes. Um, so they they've looked at

802
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:32,239
places like fire departments, rescue
squads, uh, convenience stores, uh,

803
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:36,320
community gathering locations, just
trying to make sure that if we go

804
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:40,159
through another pandemic and something
happens that, you know, folks who don't

805
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:43,679
have any access at all aren't all having
to gather in the McDonald's parking lot

806
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,800
to get Wi-Fi.
>> I just wonder how that was going.

807
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,880
Anything else?
>> I'll ask for an update on that. Um, I

808
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:54,320
know that they have uh done quite a bit
of outreach to folks that they thought

809
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,199
might be receptive to it, and I know
they've installed some, but I don't

810
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,320
remember what those locations are. So,
I'll ask for an update on them.

811
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:09,280
I would think that anywhere that you
have to provide shelter for people,

812
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:15,520
power outage, snow,
something at your fire departments or

813
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:19,280
schools, that'd be a good place to have
have that, I would I would think.

814
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:25,360
» Yep. We're trying to make that happen.
Um they will be installing uh fiber

815
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:30,640
either late this week or sometime next
week at the um with county east station,

816
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:35,440
the old lead nine station. Um that
that's currently served by cable and the

817
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:40,239
bandwidth isn't what we need it to be.
So they're going to run fiber there and

818
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:42,719
that's one of the last um public
locations that they'll they'll have to

819
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:47,280
get to to reach.
>> That was citizens on coax there, was it?

820
01:14:45,491 --> 01:14:50,719
[clears throat]
Oh, what's central link now? They're

821
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:56,800
called broadband.
>> Um that that coax uh is generally

822
01:14:53,120 --> 01:15:02,480
capable of 100 megabit downloads and 20
megabit uploads. Um

823
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:06,560
our camera system uh that we use for
security there needs more bandwidth on

824
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:10,560
that. Not to mention all the providers
and that their reporting that they're

825
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:13,679
able to do electronically now. Yeah, we
we we need

826
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:17,840
» an upgraded capacity there. It's no
that's probably Pioneer Cable Ed Arnold

827
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:24,239
installed with that. So that's some of
the original stuff he installed with

828
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:28,320
probably. So it has been there a while.
>> Is citizens turning some people on to

829
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:30,719
the I mean getting hooked them hooked up
and getting

830
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:35,199
» they are and they've been making a
really good effort to do outreach. Um

831
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:40,239
» you all may have met the CEO. She was at
the first meeting at Fort Chisel

832
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:44,159
just to connect people. We we've
suggested several things that they could

833
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:48,719
do to get out and meet people who are
more specifically on the eastern end of

834
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:54,640
the county. Uh so they reached out to
ruran clubs and

835
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:58,320
churches and social groups and um you
just tried to get the word out that

836
01:15:56,159 --> 01:16:03,440
folks do have another option now uh for
their their speed and for the areas that

837
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:07,760
have have been connected by fiber you
can get gigabit service. So

838
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:12,000
» I'm only at fiber and I've not
recognized any

839
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:16,400
and decay of service. It's still just
like it always is. We have every tablet,

840
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:21,600
television all we want in the house and
it never buffers. So they got very good

841
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:24,800
system and just kind of surprising that
I we ain't see little jumps or

842
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:29,040
something.
With most of the providers I've had in

843
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:34,880
my life, I was happy if I got 80% of
what they promised me. And generally

844
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:38,360
with citizens, it's it's closer to 100%
they offered.

845
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,239
what you said

846
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:54,480
and we have a help successfully. I think
it's a good thing to do. The other thing

847
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:59,040
I was thinking about what Jesse said
about utilizing money for certain

848
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:02,040
things.
Fire

849
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,360
in the county.

850
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:12,719
» We had one of those discussions today.
Um we're we're getting ready to do roof

851
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:16,400
repairs at um Baron Springs Fire
Department and at the with county east

852
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:21,760
station that they both have a water
infiltration problem. Um

853
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:28,159
those fire stations and rescue squads
are around 30 years old, not getting any

854
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:33,199
younger. Um the some of them have have
been treated better than others. Uh but

855
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:39,920
as we look forward, do we need to
replace our fire stations and um EMS

856
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:43,840
buildings um you know in line with what
we're doing with the schools? And so

857
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:49,520
certainly that we have plans for that in
our capital improvement plan. Um the the

858
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:55,199
timing will be up to when does the money
start coming in and how much of it uh do

859
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:58,800
we apply to that specific area. Um as
far as equipment goes, we're generally

860
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:04,239
in pretty good shape. Our our EMS folks
will take possession of a new ambulance

861
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:09,280
within the next six weeks. Um and we
have several newer ambulances purchased

862
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:13,679
within the last four years. Um fire
departments are generally in good shape.

863
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:18,480
Uh we we've invested um in in several
new apparatus since I've been here. Uh

864
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:21,679
but you've got to keep that going and uh
>> you might have to look at a ladder truck

865
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,800
if that other
>> that comes in. That would be a definite

866
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,719
need.
>> We we've already had conversations with

867
01:18:26,719 --> 01:18:33,840
the developer for that project that they
have asked us what do you need? Uh and

868
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:38,960
one of my first responses in emergency
services was to tell them that the fire

869
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:42,400
station that will serve that location uh
is not big enough for an aerial

870
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:46,480
apparatus even if we had it.
>> So uh we may be able to squeeze a quint

871
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,480
in the Max Medit Station, but we'd have
to give up

872
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:53,760
» have to give up two other trucks and
it'd be tight. Um so you we're

873
01:18:52,159 --> 01:18:57,679
realistically going to have to look at
what our options are on some of those

874
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:02,239
stations going forward. I'm not
advocating for building $10 million fire

875
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:06,360
stations, but we can probably do better
than metal buildings.

876
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:20,040
those kind of things.

877
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:30,880
» Um it would be of particular interest
too if there was an expansion into

878
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:35,679
battery energy storage. Um you know
you've got to be mindful of while the

879
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:41,360
odds of a thermal runaway are low,
they're never zero. So we would have to

880
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,800
know how to fight that. And so it's not
just providing the equipment, but also

881
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:49,040
providing the training necessary. And
that shouldn't be on the county to

882
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:52,400
provide that training. It should be on
the developer of the the project to to

883
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:56,120
provide the training so that we can
fight it the right way.

884
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,260
[snorts]

885
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,920
Anything

886
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,400
else for Mr. Henkins?

887
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:24,920
Those hand sign those hand signals are
still better than most of the ones I

888
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,920
get.

889
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:34,080
If nothing else for Mr. Henkins, we'll
go to commissioner concerns.

890
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:40,640
I was going to bring up can we get rid
of the block cameras but see the Mr. the

891
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:45,679
sheriff has picked me to it. So
I'm a small government guy but there

892
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:52,159
have been instances where those cameras
did um point us in the right direction.

893
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:56,480
Um, you know, the very first week they
were up when Sheriff Foster was still

894
01:20:53,520 --> 01:21:02,239
the sheriff, um, there was a lady with
Alzheimer's, um, from North Carolina who

895
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:08,960
drove through the the camera closest to
Jackson and our folks were able to

896
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:13,440
locate her and get her back home safely
by by the use of that technology. But I

897
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:19,040
get that a lot of folks are fearful of
that technology and what it can do. Um

898
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:23,760
it it like any other technology can be
abused. Um but I have not known our law

899
01:21:21,679 --> 01:21:30,880
enforcement folks to do that.
>> And um

900
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:33,920
also I've took a lot of phone calls and
inperson

901
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:38,320
I would say some of them are
confrontational

902
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:44,159
over the last two weeks.
It's not over the land use ordinance is

903
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:50,719
over this 1% sales tax. people raising
cane over this one 1% sales tax. I've

904
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:56,239
had to explain to them I said
you

905
01:21:52,320 --> 01:22:00,159
got to if the 1% passes
uh

906
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:04,800
travelers and out of state and out of
county people will help pay for the

907
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:09,760
schools. If not, your real estate could
go up 20 cents on the hundred and I said

908
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:12,800
you're going to be paying for all of it.
>> Exactly.

909
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:17,040
» And that's happened two times before. If
people are ignorant, I mean, a lot of

910
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:22,159
people are ignorant. They just say tax
no

911
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:29,600
» if the 1% local option doesn't pass,
we would have to do those upgrades 100%

912
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:36,560
based on property taxes that we receive.
Um, and as Mr. King pointed out and Mr.

913
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:40,560
Bernard did, you you can't rely on that
revenue before it starts coming in. And

914
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:46,000
even once it starts coming in, you need
to be mindful that it can go away just

915
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:51,280
as quickly as it got here. Um, so the 1%
would give us the option of um having a

916
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:56,080
pretty significant discount. I don't
know about y'all, but I still use

917
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:59,679
coupons. Um, you know, I'll open up my
food line app and I'll I'll pick out

918
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:04,639
which coupons I'm I'm going to use this
week. Uh, we're getting a pretty

919
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:10,400
significant discount on new schools if
we use this local option. Um, you know,

920
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:14,480
it's like getting 40% off and I'll take
that bargain just about anytime.

921
01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:20,080
» Yeah. I've been explaining to people I
said that 1%

922
01:23:16,719 --> 01:23:23,600
will be the fairest tax there is.
>> If you don't use it, you don't get

923
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:27,679
charged for citizens.
>> Have you all had any people complain?

924
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:32,320
» I've had a couple. I've had a couple
didn't understand why. And after I

925
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:36,400
explained to them the 20% deal, I said,
"Would you really pay 52?" What is it?

926
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:39,280
52 53% now.
And I said, "Would you like to pay

927
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:43,440
7172?"
They said, "No." I said, "Well, at 1%

928
01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:47,040
all these people come here eating wine."
I just wish we get some more restaurants

929
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:52,639
like Chick-fil-A,
Roadhouse. Because I'll tell you, I did

930
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:56,719
I did a little research. There's 58,000
cars come through this intersection

931
01:23:54,480 --> 01:24:00,960
today. You know how much how many Rhino
Cats? 57. We've got a thousand more

932
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:02,880
comes through this intersection here
than Ron does.

933
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:06,159
» Yeah. But they got
>> We can't get a chicken.

934
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:10,400
» Yeah. They got 250,000 people live down
in that bowl, too, and we only got

935
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,800
28,000.
I

936
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:18,080
» I've I've done a lot of work with those
um those restaurants and hotels over the

937
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:21,679
years that base their metrics on any
number of things. A lot of them do base

938
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:26,719
it on number of cars passing by, but
they also u look at your local

939
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,760
population. And if your local population
is not big enough that they're not

940
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:34,320
coming.
>> Yeah. And I remember I don't know how

941
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:39,040
many years ago it was when Chick-fil-A
said that we did not have enough lunch

942
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:43,440
crowd for them to locate here. Well,
Chick-fil-A also looks at at other

943
01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:47,760
metrics. Um,
median household income

944
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:52,239
is one. Chick-fil-A is not going to let
somebody locate somewhere where it's

945
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:57,679
going to possibly fail. So even if a
franchisee were to say I want to put one

946
01:24:54,719 --> 01:25:00,960
in withful Chick-fil-A as a corporate
entity has to sign off on that and they

947
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,080
won't sign off on it if if it's not
going to meet their metrics.

948
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:08,880
» If you don't put it they won't cut them
problem. You don't get I mean we got a

949
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:13,440
corridor for for women with fortunes on
both sides that you can have it lined up

950
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,880
and you put them over there. I guarantee
you roll in some people because people's

951
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:22,000
hungry. They come through here they get
gas. Look the tax review on gas. I get

952
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:26,560
y'all get pretty good on gas. If you did
that same thing with the food, you know,

953
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:29,120
they stop and eat when they fueled up.
>> There's a reason why Starbucks built on

954
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,800
a sea park.
>> Absolutely.

955
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:36,000
» And just just remember, we got three
Taco Bells within a three mile radius of

956
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:41,280
one another.
>> Three, four wins in Canada.

957
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:45,920
» The the 1% if it does pass is 20 years
or 25 years.

958
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:50,000
» It's 20 years. So, uh if it were uh
passed this year, it would expire in

959
01:25:47,679 --> 01:25:56,960
2046.
and it could be redone again if you so

960
01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:00,800
if you if you thought you had a need
>> that's not in the enabling legislation

961
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:05,679
that the general assembly passed.
>> So do do it just one time and then then

962
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:10,800
» that that that could change between now
and 2046.

963
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:15,679
Um one of the other considerations is
that this is

964
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:20,239
just for school construction
rehabilitation.

965
01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:25,199
Um, it is not for teacher salaries. It's
not for operating. It's not for buses.

966
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:29,040
It's for those major projects. It's it's
for construction. Um,

967
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:32,639
» how many other counties around that
that's going to that's going to try to

968
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:39,960
pass this?
>> There's quite a few. Um, some have opted

969
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,960
not to. Bland opted not to. Okay.

970
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:46,560
» You don't have you don't have nearly the
number of businesses over there, so it

971
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:50,080
wouldn't have that big an impact. I
still argue it would have some impact,

972
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:54,000
but they could do something with those
funds, but they've opted not to and that

973
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:58,960
that's the right of their board to
decide to to go that way. Um, so a lot

974
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:03,040
of other localities have reached out to
us. Um, they have seen some of the

975
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:08,000
publications that we've put out and
they're interested in using similar

976
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:12,000
materials because um,
while their circumstances aren't

977
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:14,800
necessarily the same, some of the thing
same things hold true. So, they want to

978
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,719
use some of the materials that we've
produced.

979
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:23,600
I seen this morning on the news that
there will be three statewide

980
01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:27,199
constitutional amendments on our on our
your ballot this winter this November.

981
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,120
» Yeah. Plan on spending a little longer
in the ballot box this time than you

982
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:36,239
usually do.
>> Yes. Yeah. We don't have any countywide

983
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:41,600
elections, but we'll have
n nationalationwide. So,

984
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:44,480
» yep. We have a US Senate and US House
both up this time.

985
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:52,320
» But, uh I know
>> and Some people may ask why we're not

986
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:59,760
as a county actively out there vocal and
promoting the 1% tax. We can't by state

987
01:27:56,639 --> 01:28:03,040
code um assert that people should vote
one way or the other. I can individually

988
01:28:01,679 --> 01:28:06,000
tell you how I'm going to vote. I'm
going to vote for it.

989
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:10,719
» Um
but I I can't tell people, you know, how

990
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:14,960
they ought to vote. uh we have to
present it in a neutral sort of format

991
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:18,719
and let people make up their own minds.
>> That's why I was going to ask on

992
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:23,440
likeformational
meetings and stuff because I think a lot

993
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:27,199
of people are confused
over what the wording is.

994
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:33,040
» Well, Dr. Street uh spoke to the joint
governing bodies last night, made a very

995
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:37,360
compelling argument. Um he has done
informational meetings in he did Fort

996
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:42,080
Chisel Friday night before the football
game I think and he was doing tonight at

997
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:46,480
Sheffy um you know while this meeting is
going on otherwise I would have gone to

998
01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:49,920
Sheffy. Um you know he's doing some of
those around the county just to help

999
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:54,800
people get a better understanding of of
what we're asking or the ballot question

1000
01:28:52,480 --> 01:29:01,120
they'll be asked to to vote on this
fall. Um he has some really great

1001
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:08,400
pictures of the architectural render
renderings for uh the new elementary

1002
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:15,679
school here uh in town and uh the Fort
Chisel High School renovations. Um as

1003
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:19,840
well as the athletic fields uh that
would be done as part of this

1004
01:29:17,199 --> 01:29:25,520
initiative. So
he points out rightly so that we cannot

1005
01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:29,920
host a regional uh sporting tournament
or sporting event. Our tracks are not

1006
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:34,960
big enough. They don't have the right
surfaces. Um we don't have lights on

1007
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:38,320
most of our athletic fields. So the
games that we go into the night, we have

1008
01:29:36,719 --> 01:29:43,120
to play somewhere that has lights. So
that means our athletes are traveling

1009
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:48,400
further uh away, spending longer away
from their studies while they're

1010
01:29:44,719 --> 01:29:53,440
traveling to ball games. Um he also
points out that um because we will be

1011
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:56,719
addressing some of this aging equipment
including some some chillers and air

1012
01:29:55,120 --> 01:30:02,159
conditioning equipment um you know
getting our schools air conditioned and

1013
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:05,520
climate comfortable um because we will
be spending less on maintenance that

1014
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:10,560
will give them less fun uh give them
more funds for operations. So teacher

1015
01:30:08,239 --> 01:30:15,120
salaries, teacher benefits, uh school
supplies, um you know, student activity

1016
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:18,880
supplies, all those things will have
more money because we'll be spending

1017
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:25,120
less on maintenance than they have.
>> Yeah, I do know like I've seen the the

1018
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:28,159
board meetings, Mr. Mr. Joe Deour
talking about the lights at Speed

1019
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:33,040
Elementary School. That's the only
baseball field in the county that has

1020
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:36,639
lights.
>> You you may know a lot more about those

1021
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,560
lights than we do. We don't know who
installed them or when they were

1022
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:42,000
installed.
>> Mr. Joe Bass and the community installed

1023
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:46,080
them.
>> Okay.

1024
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:52,320
I think I owe somebody some money. They
they bet today that uh the Basses were

1025
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:58,159
involved in that.
And I got an email the other day asking

1026
01:30:55,040 --> 01:31:02,560
us to I know Whifffield the town they're
doing their comprehensive plan and they

1027
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:09,199
want they want people in the county to
to to answer that or not or

1028
01:31:05,679 --> 01:31:13,440
» I got the same email. Um I'm a little
conflicted about whether I should answer

1029
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:19,199
or not. Um I I tend to think that it's
more for the folks in to help make those

1030
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:22,639
determinations. If they want my help,
I'll be glad to to offer my opinions.

1031
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:26,880
Did you get one, Rusty?
>> I did. Good.

1032
01:31:25,688 --> 01:31:30,000
[snorts]
>> I just I just I just I just was curious.

1033
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:36,120
I mean,
>> that's what we build.

1034
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:36,120
» Pretty good size cabins.

1035
01:31:40,639 --> 01:31:48,719
It's 168 in.
>> Any any other concerns for the

1036
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:54,440
commissioner concerns at this time?
>> My mic. I'm done. I run my mouth in

1037
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:54,440
this.

1038
01:31:55,280 --> 01:32:01,440
Our next item will be our land use
ordinance review.

1039
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:05,679
» I've already talked about that unless
you all just have something that you

1040
01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:11,000
found that's wrong or that needs to be
corrected or updated or changed.

1041
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:11,000
» I'm good.

1042
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:22,880
» Yeah.
>> Don't have stuff like that. I mean that

1043
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:27,760
that's not not updated.
>> Yeah, you there's only about 19,000

1044
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:30,800
parcels. So I'm only get one or two of
them wrong.

1045
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:35,199
» Is there a large quantity of people
comment about it or just a few?

1046
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:39,920
» We really have haven't had much in the
way of calls. Uh we we've had like I say

1047
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:43,600
maybe three or four additional online
submissions.

1048
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:47,120
That would be worth probably just seeing
if the board wants to bring it back and

1049
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:51,600
just say, "Okay, if that's what they
want,

1050
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:55,280
do it. It's done. Then we move on." I
mean, that's just my thought. I mean, I

1051
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:58,480
could be totally off base.
>> Well, you know, this this thing Thursday

1052
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:03,679
night is not the last opportunity for
the public to to be engaged. Uh, if if

1053
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:08,159
you all are ready and the board's ready
to move on to public hearings, uh, that

1054
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:11,679
there will be opportunity, and I'm I'm
willing to bet that we won't have it in

1055
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:15,239
this room. Um
>> as of right now,

1056
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:25,280
» right? So you all would need to make a
recommendation that the current draft or

1057
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:33,280
any subsequent draft
be adopted by the the board. Um so

1058
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:38,239
» and the board still may have something
to bring back to change. Well, it it may

1059
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:43,280
mean another joint meeting, you know,
just to to wrap it up and make sure that

1060
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:48,560
y'all are on the same page. Um, you
know, about the earliest that you could

1061
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:54,880
expect to even consider passage is maybe
November, just based on when it would

1062
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:58,480
take, you know, you all have to set your
public hearing. The board has to set

1063
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:02,320
its. We have to meet the advertising
requirements for that. Um, and then we

1064
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:07,360
have to actually have the public
hearings. So it's it's too late for you

1065
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:12,320
all to set one now for October. So the
first window I think would be November.

1066
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:17,840
Um
that's at the very earliest.

1067
01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:20,880
» You'd have to do it by the our normal
business meeting. Correct. You could

1068
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:25,120
just add another meeting at the end of
the month like in October, end of

1069
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:29,120
October.
>> You could if you saw value in that.

1070
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:34,239
» Well, I I guess that would just move the
process on faster.

1071
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:39,120
Well, that's one thing that I think that
you and the board need to reach

1072
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:42,000
agreement on and we can help facilitate
that.

1073
01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:47,199
» I think another meeting between us and
the supervisors to make sure we're on

1074
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:51,600
the same page and that they want it then
we

1075
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:56,159
» and it it may be that the board has some
conversation about this Tuesday at their

1076
01:34:53,920 --> 01:35:02,639
meeting. uh if they want to follow up
from that. Um

1077
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:06,239
I I can't say until the agenda is done
or we see what the board members have to

1078
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:11,120
say next week.
>> Um

1079
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:18,159
well, we'll find a little more after
Thursday, too. So,

1080
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:21,159
» yes, sir. I don't want to step on their
hel.

1081
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:35,840
» If nothing else, I'll entertain a
motion.

1082
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:39,440
» Motion to journ.
>> Second.

1083
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:44,480
» It's been properly moved a second
>> to adjourn the September meeting of the

1084
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:48,920
W County Planning Commission. I'll take
a roll call vote from this way.