1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,614 The Wheaton City Council. Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 2 00:00:04,051 --> 00:00:04,740 Mayor Suhes. 3 00:00:04,801 --> 00:00:05,100 Here. 4 00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:06,330 Councilman Clausing. 5 00:00:06,450 --> 00:00:06,645 Here. 6 00:00:06,990 --> 00:00:08,010 Councilwoman Robbins. 7 00:00:08,070 --> 00:00:08,580 Here. 8 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,555 Councilman Weller. 9 00:00:09,630 --> 00:00:10,291 Here. 10 00:00:10,351 --> 00:00:11,670 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 11 00:00:11,730 --> 00:00:12,210 Here. 12 00:00:12,270 --> 00:00:13,229 Councilwoman Brice. 13 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,335 Here. 14 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,851 Councilman Brown. 15 00:00:14,865 --> 00:00:15,240 Here. 16 00:00:15,285 --> 00:00:15,570 Thank you. 17 00:00:16,290 --> 00:00:20,070 Okay, what I should have also announced, this meeting is being conducted in person 18 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:25,725 and also via video conference. Item three is the report of the city manager. Mr. 19 00:00:25,980 --> 00:00:26,310 Munch. 20 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:27,901 No report, Mayor. 21 00:00:27,991 --> 00:00:29,850 Item four is the report of the city attorney. 22 00:00:30,030 --> 00:00:30,631 No report. 23 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,780 Thank you. We have a proclamation this evening. 24 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,570 The proclamation concerns Constitution Week, September 17th through the 23rd of 25 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:43,380 2026. Would you like to come to the podium, please? 26 00:00:47,731 --> 00:00:48,060 Thank you. 27 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,526 Mm-hmm. 28 00:00:55,321 --> 00:00:56,040 Wait. Whatever. 29 00:00:58,815 --> 00:01:01,380 The proclamation reads as follows. 30 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:07,545 "Whereas September 17th, 2026, marks the 239th anniversary of the 31 00:01:07,620 --> 00:01:12,915 drafting of the Constitution of the United States of America by the Constitutional 32 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:18,961 Convention in 1787. And whereas the Constitution of the United States 33 00:01:19,020 --> 00:01:24,301 of America, the guardian of our liberties, embodies the principles of limited 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,530 government and a republic dedicated to rule by law. 35 00:01:29,461 --> 00:01:34,980 And whereas this year, the United States celebrates the 250th anniversary of the 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,560 meeting of the Second Continental Congress in Philadelphia, and on July 2nd, 37 00:01:40,801 --> 00:01:46,260 voted for the independence of the United Colonies by passing the Lee resolution. 38 00:01:46,995 --> 00:01:52,530 And on July 4th, proclaimed the United States Declaration of Independence in 39 00:01:52,620 --> 00:01:58,351 1776. And whereas it is fitting and proper to accord 40 00:01:58,410 --> 00:02:04,110 official recognition to this magnificent document and it is memorable 41 00:02:04,290 --> 00:02:09,180 anniversary, and to the patriotic celebrations which will commemorate the 42 00:02:09,241 --> 00:02:14,610 occasion. And whereas Public Law 915 43 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:20,280 guarantees the issuing of a proclamation each year by the President of the United 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,325 States of America, designating September 17th through 45 00:02:26,370 --> 00:02:31,921 the 23rd as Constitution Week. And whereas Karen 46 00:02:32,130 --> 00:02:38,040 Wheaton Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution celebrates these 47 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:44,025 designations annually through displays and bell ringing to encourage study of 48 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:50,040 historical events leading to the framing of the Constitution, to inform residents 49 00:02:50,101 --> 00:02:55,530 of America's great heritage through our founding document, and to emphasize 50 00:02:55,590 --> 00:03:01,019 citizens' responsibilities for protecting and defending the Constitution. 51 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:07,650 Now therefore, the city of Wheaton, Illinois, proudly proclaims September 17th 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:13,424 through the 23rd, 2026, as Constitution Week and 53 00:03:13,559 --> 00:03:19,515 asks our citizens to reaffirm the ideals the framers of the Constitution had in 54 00:03:19,710 --> 00:03:25,410 1787 by vigilantly protecting the freedoms 55 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:31,201 guaranteed through us through this guardian of liberties and self-determination, 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,070 remembering that lost rights may never be regained. 57 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Dated the eighth day of September, 2026." 58 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Thank you. 59 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:43,171 Thank you. 60 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,201 Well, thank you. Thank you very much for coming. 61 00:03:58,531 --> 00:04:03,270 We will move on to item six. Item six is citizens to be heard. 62 00:04:04,230 --> 00:04:10,110 Does anyone wish to speak to us concerning an item that is not 63 00:04:10,201 --> 00:04:11,820 on tonight's agenda? 64 00:04:13,201 --> 00:04:14,101 Yes, please. 65 00:04:18,421 --> 00:04:23,550 I'm John Rutledge, 811 East Illinois Street, Wheaton, and I just wanted to comment 66 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:29,490 on the work by the city after the storms we had this summer with so many 67 00:04:29,550 --> 00:04:33,180 trees that were down. I thought the city did a magnificent job of getting out 68 00:04:33,210 --> 00:04:37,500 there, not discriminating between parkway trees and private trees. 69 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:39,360 Let's just get this mess cleaned up. 70 00:04:39,390 --> 00:04:43,710 And there were people, I'm sure, working on it that had problems at home, but they 71 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:46,695 were out there, and they were pleasant, and cheerful, and efficient, and got the 72 00:04:46,770 --> 00:04:50,250 job done. I just want to say thank you to the city and all of the diligent 73 00:04:50,281 --> 00:04:52,110 employees that did their thing. Thank you. 74 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,820 Very good. Thank you. 75 00:04:58,890 --> 00:05:02,640 Is there anyone else who wishes to speak to us tonight? Yes, please. 76 00:05:05,610 --> 00:05:10,140 Thank you. Good evening. Erica Nelson. I live at 1734 K Road in Wheaton. 77 00:05:10,170 --> 00:05:14,310 I'm a 30-year resident. First, on a personal note, I want to wish Erica Bray 78 00:05:14,370 --> 00:05:16,230 Parker, Councilwoman Parker, happy birthday. 79 00:05:16,350 --> 00:05:17,550 Thank you. 80 00:05:17,730 --> 00:05:18,510 Um- 81 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,250 That was a well-kept secret. 82 00:05:22,531 --> 00:05:23,670 We won't ask her her age. 83 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:26,550 Better kept secret. 84 00:05:26,701 --> 00:05:31,320 I'm here actually to also thank somebody, and that's Police Chief Uecker, who is 85 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:35,160 present tonight. A couple of weeks ago, I sent an email. 86 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:40,395 I know that you all received it, Mayor Suhes, City Manager Munch, and had sent it 87 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:46,050 to Chief Uecker, regarding the reports local, state, 88 00:05:46,170 --> 00:05:51,585 nationally, recently, about the use of ALPRs, Automatic License Plate Readers, 89 00:05:52,531 --> 00:05:55,020 by the Flock system, Flock organization. 90 00:05:56,070 --> 00:06:00,404 I remember the council meetings that I attended a couple of years ago, I think now, 91 00:06:00,510 --> 00:06:06,480 where this was discussed, and have kept my interest in it as a 92 00:06:06,510 --> 00:06:12,300 citizen, but also with just an eye on how any kind of technology is used in the 93 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:18,000 work that I do. That's always a part of every project that I run, and so I keep it 94 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:22,260 top of mind in that part of my life, but also in my life as a citizen. 95 00:06:23,445 --> 00:06:25,651 What I want to do is thank Chief Uecker tonight. 96 00:06:25,710 --> 00:06:30,841 He called me at the end of last week, and we spoke for almost an hour, which is an 97 00:06:30,930 --> 00:06:33,826 inordinate amount of time for someone with such a busy job. 98 00:06:34,740 --> 00:06:38,910 So I want to thank him for that. One of the things we talked about, and I took lots 99 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:44,820 of notes, and so I appreciated his time, was the way that the system internally 100 00:06:44,910 --> 00:06:46,951 here in the city of Wheaton is used. 101 00:06:47,370 --> 00:06:49,440 And I will tell you that I left feeling 102 00:06:50,820 --> 00:06:56,520 confident that the confidence I have in our police department was 103 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:57,870 reinforced. 104 00:06:59,581 --> 00:07:04,515 He also reinforced that I, because I'd asked the question in a follow-up email, am 105 00:07:04,515 --> 00:07:09,510 not the only person, only resident, who has contacted the city about this and 106 00:07:09,570 --> 00:07:13,454 asking questions as it was an extended contract now to 2028. 107 00:07:14,055 --> 00:07:16,155 And so I want to reinforce again my 108 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,091 thanks to Chief Uecker for giving me that time. 109 00:07:21,105 --> 00:07:24,390 And my understanding is he either reached out or others in his department reached 110 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:27,600 out to the other residents who also wrote. 111 00:07:28,410 --> 00:07:33,870 One of the things that we closed with, and also to recognize that 112 00:07:34,350 --> 00:07:38,550 this is an ongoing because of the use of these tools and technology certainly 113 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,561 constantly integrates, 114 00:07:42,151 --> 00:07:47,610 is the challenge, I think, that municipalities locally, statewide, 115 00:07:47,790 --> 00:07:53,655 county, certainly at the federal level, is under incredible challenge with the 116 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:59,311 lack of respect and also the challenge of the concern of 117 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:02,701 certainly something that we just gave an ordinance, 118 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:08,250 not an ordinance, but the resolution around which is the rule of law. 119 00:08:08,895 --> 00:08:14,100 And that when we have a sense that that's broken down, then residents feel less 120 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:18,630 secure and less safe. And one of the things that Chief Uecker and I talked about is 121 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,311 the fact that in our community, and I believe this and I said this to him, that in 122 00:08:23,401 --> 00:08:28,350 fact we have a community that has a safety net because leadership is willing to do 123 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:32,730 what he did, which was to reach out to a citizen and answer my questions. 124 00:08:33,211 --> 00:08:38,850 And so transparency, being vulnerable, speaking the truth is really what 125 00:08:38,940 --> 00:08:42,480 keeps us at a level of governance that is respected. 126 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,490 So I want to thank your time tonight, but also Chief Uecker in particular. 127 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:48,151 Thank you. 128 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:50,160 Very good. Thank you. 129 00:08:51,450 --> 00:08:53,940 Does anyone else wish to speak to us tonight? 130 00:08:57,931 --> 00:09:01,170 Is there anyone online who wishes to speak to us tonight? 131 00:09:01,590 --> 00:09:05,340 If you're online and would like to speak, please raise your hand so we can unmute 132 00:09:05,431 --> 00:09:05,520 you. 133 00:09:10,266 --> 00:09:10,866 I think we're good. 134 00:09:11,226 --> 00:09:12,366 Okay, thank you. 135 00:09:14,226 --> 00:09:19,686 We'll move on to item seven. Item seven is the consent agenda. 136 00:09:19,701 --> 00:09:22,206 Andrea, can you please read the consent agenda? 137 00:09:23,586 --> 00:09:27,816 The consent agenda has approval of minutes, Wheaton City Council meeting minutes 138 00:09:27,936 --> 00:09:30,696 August 17th, 2026, as submitted. 139 00:09:32,976 --> 00:09:37,866 Thank you. The consent agenda will be approved in one motion. 140 00:09:38,616 --> 00:09:41,136 Is there a motion, please, to approve the consent agenda? 141 00:09:41,271 --> 00:09:41,676 So moved. 142 00:09:42,051 --> 00:09:43,056 Thank you. Is there a second? 143 00:09:43,236 --> 00:09:43,566 Second. 144 00:09:44,436 --> 00:09:45,876 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 145 00:09:46,146 --> 00:09:47,076 Councilwoman Robbins. 146 00:09:47,226 --> 00:09:47,676 Yes. 147 00:09:47,736 --> 00:09:48,456 Councilman Weller. 148 00:09:48,757 --> 00:09:49,326 Yes. 149 00:09:49,386 --> 00:09:50,436 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 150 00:09:50,676 --> 00:09:51,216 Yes. 151 00:09:51,277 --> 00:09:52,116 Councilwoman Bryce. 152 00:09:52,356 --> 00:09:52,806 Yes. 153 00:09:52,866 --> 00:09:53,586 Councilman Brown. 154 00:09:53,886 --> 00:09:54,096 Yes. 155 00:09:54,306 --> 00:09:54,906 Mayor Sees. 156 00:09:55,027 --> 00:09:55,386 Yes. 157 00:09:55,476 --> 00:09:56,346 Councilman Clausing. 158 00:09:56,527 --> 00:09:56,826 Yes. 159 00:09:56,916 --> 00:09:57,246 Thank you. 160 00:09:58,626 --> 00:10:00,636 Okay, we move on to our regular agenda. 161 00:10:00,757 --> 00:10:04,746 Under the regular agenda, there's one item under regular unfinished business. 162 00:10:04,806 --> 00:10:08,136 There are 11 items under regular new business. 163 00:10:08,916 --> 00:10:12,636 Item one under regular unfinished business is an ordinance amending the code of 164 00:10:12,696 --> 00:10:18,366 ordinances of the City of Wheaton by adding Article 10, Overweight and Oversized 165 00:10:18,456 --> 00:10:24,336 Vehicles, to Chapter 70, Traffic and Vehicles, and adding permit fees to Appendix 166 00:10:24,546 --> 00:10:26,556 B, the fee schedule. Mr. Munch. 167 00:10:27,366 --> 00:10:30,846 Thank you, Mayor. The city council conducted first reading of this ordinance on 168 00:10:30,876 --> 00:10:35,136 August 17th. The ordinance regulates oversized and overweight vehicles on city 169 00:10:35,152 --> 00:10:39,186 streets. It also establishes a permitting process and a fee schedule for the same. 170 00:10:39,906 --> 00:10:43,866 There were no questions or concerns raised by the city council or the public at 171 00:10:43,926 --> 00:10:47,406 that time, and staff recommends approval of the ordinance this evening. 172 00:10:48,966 --> 00:10:51,757 Thank you. Is there a motion, please, to pass the ordinance? 173 00:10:51,936 --> 00:10:52,416 So moved. 174 00:10:52,686 --> 00:10:53,496 Is there a second? 175 00:10:53,586 --> 00:10:54,665 Second. 176 00:10:54,786 --> 00:10:56,736 Any discussion from the audience? 177 00:10:58,176 --> 00:10:59,496 Discussion from the council? 178 00:11:01,146 --> 00:11:02,586 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 179 00:11:02,916 --> 00:11:04,115 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 180 00:11:04,176 --> 00:11:04,476 Yes. 181 00:11:04,686 --> 00:11:05,586 Councilwoman Bryce. 182 00:11:05,676 --> 00:11:05,946 Yes. 183 00:11:06,277 --> 00:11:06,996 Councilman Brown. 184 00:11:07,461 --> 00:11:08,076 Yes. 185 00:11:08,136 --> 00:11:08,766 Mayor Sees. 186 00:11:08,886 --> 00:11:09,366 Yes. 187 00:11:09,396 --> 00:11:10,311 Councilman Clausing. 188 00:11:10,507 --> 00:11:10,896 Yes. 189 00:11:10,956 --> 00:11:11,796 Councilwoman Robbins. 190 00:11:11,946 --> 00:11:12,471 Yes. 191 00:11:12,486 --> 00:11:13,176 Councilman Weller. 192 00:11:13,386 --> 00:11:13,716 Yes. 193 00:11:13,777 --> 00:11:15,066 Thank you. 194 00:11:15,216 --> 00:11:17,271 Thank you. We move on to regular new business. 195 00:11:17,346 --> 00:11:22,266 Under regular new business, item one is the reappointment to a city board, subject 196 00:11:22,326 --> 00:11:23,946 to the concurrence of the council. 197 00:11:24,516 --> 00:11:30,396 I recommend the reappointment of Nathan Losanga to the Downtown Design 198 00:11:30,486 --> 00:11:34,206 Review Board. Nathan has served on this board since 199 00:11:34,386 --> 00:11:40,027 2005. The reappointment for a three-year term through 200 00:11:40,116 --> 00:11:44,976 September 8th, 2029. Is there a second, please? 201 00:11:45,846 --> 00:11:46,176 Second. 202 00:11:47,136 --> 00:11:48,126 Any discussion? 203 00:11:50,016 --> 00:11:51,546 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 204 00:11:51,996 --> 00:11:52,596 Mayor Sees. 205 00:11:52,866 --> 00:11:53,196 Yes. 206 00:11:53,226 --> 00:11:54,231 Councilman Clausing. 207 00:11:54,396 --> 00:11:54,726 Yes. 208 00:11:54,786 --> 00:11:55,596 Councilwoman Robbins. 209 00:11:55,686 --> 00:11:56,257 Yes. 210 00:11:56,316 --> 00:11:57,036 Councilman Weller. 211 00:11:57,306 --> 00:11:57,516 Yes. 212 00:11:57,876 --> 00:11:58,956 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 213 00:11:59,136 --> 00:11:59,556 Yes. 214 00:11:59,646 --> 00:12:00,486 Councilwoman Bryce. 215 00:12:00,636 --> 00:12:01,206 Yes. 216 00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:01,956 Councilman Brown. 217 00:12:02,166 --> 00:12:02,527 Yes. 218 00:12:02,616 --> 00:12:02,946 Thank you. 219 00:12:05,016 --> 00:12:10,986 Item two is a resolution authorizing the execution of change orders one and two to 220 00:12:11,046 --> 00:12:15,216 agreement number 598 with Crossroad Construction, Inc. 221 00:12:15,876 --> 00:12:21,786 for the Windsor Channel Pedestrian Bridge, Butterfield Road repair project for a 222 00:12:21,846 --> 00:12:27,786 total amount not to exceed $50,759 and a total award 223 00:12:27,846 --> 00:12:32,257 of $186,614. Mr. Munch. 224 00:12:33,216 --> 00:12:37,041 Mayor, in March, the city council approved an agreement with Crossroad Construction 225 00:12:37,056 --> 00:12:41,331 for repairs to the Windsor Channel Pedestrian Bridge adjacent to Butterfield Road. 226 00:12:42,126 --> 00:12:46,266 When the contractor removed the bridge decking, significant corrosion of the main 227 00:12:46,386 --> 00:12:50,076 steel support was uncovered, which expands the scope of work. 228 00:12:50,106 --> 00:12:54,186 The additional work was not identified during previous inspections, as it would 229 00:12:54,216 --> 00:12:56,227 have required disassembly of the bridge deck. 230 00:12:56,856 --> 00:13:00,126 To address this, the engineering department recommends a change order to increase 231 00:13:00,157 --> 00:13:04,866 the contract by $50,759 for a total award of 232 00:13:05,017 --> 00:13:10,986 $186,614. While this does exceed the total project budget, the 233 00:13:11,046 --> 00:13:14,227 work is necessary to safely place the bridge back in use. 234 00:13:15,666 --> 00:13:17,496 Thank you. Is there a motion, please? 235 00:13:17,977 --> 00:13:18,697 So moved. 236 00:13:18,786 --> 00:13:19,806 Is there a second? 237 00:13:20,616 --> 00:13:20,916 Second. 238 00:13:21,456 --> 00:13:25,686 Any discussion from the audience? Discussion from the council? 239 00:13:27,697 --> 00:13:30,845 What's the likelihood of us finding additional problems? 240 00:13:34,296 --> 00:13:38,856 As the bridge is fully taken apart at this point, the chance of additional problems 241 00:13:38,916 --> 00:13:39,426 is low. 242 00:13:39,757 --> 00:13:40,206 Okay. 243 00:13:41,856 --> 00:13:42,486 Good enough. 244 00:13:42,816 --> 00:13:44,646 Thanks for the graphic, too, by the way. 245 00:13:45,336 --> 00:13:46,595 It's pretty compelling. 246 00:13:46,686 --> 00:13:47,796 Notable. Yes, right. 247 00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:53,586 Any other council comment? Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 248 00:13:53,977 --> 00:13:54,816 Councilman Weller. 249 00:13:54,846 --> 00:13:55,356 Yes. 250 00:13:55,416 --> 00:13:56,736 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 251 00:13:56,796 --> 00:13:57,036 Yes. 252 00:13:57,157 --> 00:13:57,996 Councilwoman Bryce. 253 00:13:58,146 --> 00:13:58,566 Yes. 254 00:13:58,626 --> 00:13:59,407 Councilman Brown. 255 00:13:59,586 --> 00:13:59,826 Yes. 256 00:13:59,916 --> 00:14:00,517 Mayor Sees. 257 00:14:00,636 --> 00:14:00,996 Yes. 258 00:14:01,056 --> 00:14:02,001 Councilman Clausing. 259 00:14:02,227 --> 00:14:02,407 Yes. 260 00:14:02,616 --> 00:14:03,456 Councilwoman Robbins. 261 00:14:03,576 --> 00:14:03,786 Yes. 262 00:14:03,996 --> 00:14:04,356 Thank you. 263 00:14:05,676 --> 00:14:09,576 Item three is an ordinance amending the code of ordinances of the City of Wheaton, 264 00:14:09,727 --> 00:14:15,322 Chapter 6, Alcoholic Beverages, Section 6-3, Definitions, 265 00:14:15,936 --> 00:14:21,441 Section 6-81, License Required, 266 00:14:22,086 --> 00:14:27,276 Section 6-86, Processing of Applications, Section 267 00:14:27,636 --> 00:14:32,856 6-88, Term, Fees, Section 6-90, 268 00:14:33,276 --> 00:14:37,926 Renewal, Effect of Failure to Renew, Section 269 00:14:38,526 --> 00:14:44,346 6-91, Change in Personnel, Section 6-133, 270 00:14:44,796 --> 00:14:50,767 Alcohol Infused Products and Co-Branded Alcoholic Beverages, and Appendix 271 00:14:50,886 --> 00:14:55,026 B, Fee Schedule. This is a first reading. Mr. Munch. 272 00:14:55,746 --> 00:14:59,076 Thank you, Mayor. This is the first reading of an ordinance that addresses several 273 00:14:59,136 --> 00:15:03,831 provisions within Chapter 6, which is the city's liquor code. 274 00:15:04,386 --> 00:15:09,411 Most notably of those aligns our code with recent changes to state law, 275 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:15,157 specifically adding regulations on alcohol-infused products and co-branded 276 00:15:15,306 --> 00:15:19,776 alcoholic beverages. The ordinance also includes several minor amendments to 277 00:15:19,806 --> 00:15:21,456 administrative sections of the code. 278 00:15:21,966 --> 00:15:25,386 The proposed amendments were reviewed by the Liquor Control Commission on August 279 00:15:25,447 --> 00:15:28,657 13th, and the commission unanimously recommended approval. 280 00:15:30,007 --> 00:15:35,046 Very good, and this will come back as an agenda item at our next meeting on 281 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:40,026 September 21st, I believe. Does anybody have any comments on the ordinance? 282 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:47,826 All right, we move on to item four. Item four is to receive the planning and zoning 283 00:15:47,886 --> 00:15:53,331 report, zoning application 26-16, PUD Amendment 284 00:15:53,947 --> 00:15:57,666 1000 West Prairie Avenue, Wheaton Sports Center. 285 00:15:58,657 --> 00:16:01,267 Is there a motion, please, to receive the report? 286 00:16:01,356 --> 00:16:01,866 So moved. 287 00:16:02,376 --> 00:16:03,216 Is there a second? 288 00:16:03,546 --> 00:16:03,816 Second. 289 00:16:05,407 --> 00:16:08,017 Any discussion on receiving the report? 290 00:16:09,846 --> 00:16:11,496 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 291 00:16:11,616 --> 00:16:12,517 Councilman Brown. 292 00:16:12,606 --> 00:16:12,816 Yes. 293 00:16:12,936 --> 00:16:13,566 Mayor Sees. 294 00:16:13,746 --> 00:16:13,971 Yes. 295 00:16:14,121 --> 00:16:14,977 Councilman Clausing. 296 00:16:15,186 --> 00:16:15,426 Yes. 297 00:16:15,546 --> 00:16:16,447 Councilwoman Robbins. 298 00:16:16,536 --> 00:16:16,806 Yes. 299 00:16:17,017 --> 00:16:17,826 Councilman Weller. 300 00:16:17,916 --> 00:16:18,096 Yes. 301 00:16:18,486 --> 00:16:19,596 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 302 00:16:19,746 --> 00:16:20,017 Yes. 303 00:16:20,227 --> 00:16:21,126 Councilwoman Bryce. 304 00:16:21,306 --> 00:16:22,056 Yes. Thank you. 305 00:16:22,926 --> 00:16:27,666 Okay, is there a motion, please, to direct the city attorney to draft an ordinance 306 00:16:28,056 --> 00:16:31,116 approving the PUD amendment? 307 00:16:31,296 --> 00:16:31,746 So moved. 308 00:16:32,346 --> 00:16:33,157 Is there a second? 309 00:16:33,546 --> 00:16:33,996 Second. 310 00:16:34,896 --> 00:16:39,157 Okay, we will now move on to discussion. Mr. Benson. 311 00:16:39,996 --> 00:16:41,556 Thank you, Mayor and councils. 312 00:16:43,657 --> 00:16:49,596 I think we have four people speaking, and I was just the old 313 00:16:49,626 --> 00:16:53,556 guy, so I get to tell a little bit of history, and it's very short. 314 00:16:53,676 --> 00:16:59,481 I wanted to share with you that we opened the club in 1979, and we did it 315 00:16:59,496 --> 00:17:04,132 with 12 racquetball courts, and it was six... No, excuse me, eight tennis courts. 316 00:17:06,876 --> 00:17:10,176 And right now, I can tell you that that business model has changed. 317 00:17:10,206 --> 00:17:12,247 We don't have any more racquetball courts at all. 318 00:17:13,477 --> 00:17:19,386 And then the first air structure was actually put in during that winter, 319 00:17:19,596 --> 00:17:24,396 and it ran differently. I think you may have a copy of 2A. 320 00:17:24,517 --> 00:17:28,971 It was just an old, in your packet, if you guys wanted to take a look at it, or I 321 00:17:28,986 --> 00:17:30,786 could share. I got Xers here. 322 00:17:32,406 --> 00:17:35,286 And it just shows that it ran up north and south. 323 00:17:35,437 --> 00:17:38,556 It's not like how it is now, going east and west. 324 00:17:39,006 --> 00:17:40,776 And we have eight courts going east and west. 325 00:17:40,956 --> 00:17:43,656 In here, we have six going north and south. 326 00:17:44,241 --> 00:17:48,726 And you can see that it was before the Jordan Building, which is now the Doyle 327 00:17:48,816 --> 00:17:49,236 building. 328 00:17:51,666 --> 00:17:54,937 And I just wanted people to get a reference that we were there several years before 329 00:17:56,256 --> 00:17:56,947 they were here. 330 00:17:59,682 --> 00:17:59,803 Then, 331 00:18:01,242 --> 00:18:06,312 we've had an air structure there on that site for 45 years. 332 00:18:06,942 --> 00:18:10,932 So we've been doing this for quite a long time, and people kind of gotten used to 333 00:18:10,962 --> 00:18:16,482 it. And what's interesting is that the first one we had, it was 334 00:18:16,602 --> 00:18:21,522 translucent, so it glowed at night, and some people used to call it the glow worm. 335 00:18:21,717 --> 00:18:23,712 "Are you guys next to the glow worm?" or whatever. 336 00:18:25,002 --> 00:18:30,882 In 1988, we purchased the properties to the west, and we expanded 337 00:18:31,332 --> 00:18:37,032 the facility, and we had eight indoor courts, which has now been up for about 338 00:18:37,212 --> 00:18:43,181 38 years now. And when we did this, we put the HVAC underground to help with 339 00:18:43,932 --> 00:18:47,681 noise with the neighbors and to make it more even heat for the players. 340 00:18:49,062 --> 00:18:53,202 Instead of having a single door like we used to have with the six courts, we added 341 00:18:53,652 --> 00:18:56,742 several more doors so you could go in individual courts, so you don't interfere 342 00:18:56,772 --> 00:18:57,372 with play. 343 00:18:59,172 --> 00:19:02,202 My point is here, I'm just trying to tell you how we improved that when we 344 00:19:03,792 --> 00:19:06,132 redid it. We also then changed the 345 00:19:07,572 --> 00:19:08,352 fabric so it's 346 00:19:09,792 --> 00:19:13,962 opaque, so now you can't see it at night. No light goes through. 347 00:19:14,007 --> 00:19:18,882 And then they updated the fabric as well from 80 mile an hour wind loads to 110. 348 00:19:19,542 --> 00:19:22,242 So it meets all the current codes on 349 00:19:25,002 --> 00:19:29,382 how that works on that building. I also want to share that the tennis has sort of 350 00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:34,303 changed, the game has changed. And what I mean by that is when we first started 351 00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:40,332 having the courts, the tennis courts, we knew people wanted to play 352 00:19:40,392 --> 00:19:45,072 outside. So we always wanted-- They were sort of the standard, at least as far as 353 00:19:45,132 --> 00:19:47,922 everyone we all knew in the city and everywhere else. 354 00:19:48,672 --> 00:19:50,592 And so we always wanted to drop the 355 00:19:51,882 --> 00:19:55,992 air structure in the summertime because that's exactly what people wanted to do, 356 00:19:56,352 --> 00:19:58,692 and it was definitely a lot more single play back then. 357 00:19:59,112 --> 00:20:04,122 And it has now changed to really more to a doubles game. 358 00:20:09,192 --> 00:20:15,013 And then what we also noticed too is when we have the air structure up or where 359 00:20:15,102 --> 00:20:19,032 we didn't have the air structure up, we noticed there was a shift now from first 360 00:20:19,062 --> 00:20:22,062 being booked on the outside, now first being booked on the inside. 361 00:20:23,082 --> 00:20:28,482 So we started to see that not only was the change from singles to doubles the game, 362 00:20:28,812 --> 00:20:31,122 it was also a lot of the people are trying to go inside. 363 00:20:31,752 --> 00:20:37,452 And mainly it was for, because of weather-related problems and so you always knew 364 00:20:37,482 --> 00:20:38,652 you were going to be able to play. 365 00:20:41,772 --> 00:20:45,912 I wanted to talk a little bit about the Jordan building, and I don't know if you 366 00:20:45,942 --> 00:20:48,912 guys know that that was a music studio at one time. 367 00:20:48,957 --> 00:20:51,763 And the Grateful Dead actually had recorded there. 368 00:20:52,362 --> 00:20:56,472 So some big bands used to come into Little Wheaton at that time and 369 00:20:58,542 --> 00:21:04,332 do the recordings there. And I wanted to bring up that there was a pipe or 370 00:21:05,232 --> 00:21:10,678 a drain tile that was brought up at the last zoning board meeting, and 371 00:21:11,412 --> 00:21:14,922 people were unfamiliar as to what it was, and we tried to do a little research to 372 00:21:14,952 --> 00:21:18,162 try to figure out what it was. And we were able to find out 373 00:21:19,797 --> 00:21:22,632 that if you look at the 374 00:21:24,882 --> 00:21:28,572 documents, you could see that when the Jordan Building was built, they built a 375 00:21:28,692 --> 00:21:31,513 berm, and that berm is about two feet high. 376 00:21:32,053 --> 00:21:37,196 And what ended up happening is us being the Wheaton Sports Center, our property 377 00:21:37,272 --> 00:21:40,917 being a higher elevation, the water would always run down, and it was getting 378 00:21:41,022 --> 00:21:45,612 caught by that berm. And so the 379 00:21:46,842 --> 00:21:52,122 two owners, being the Jordan at that time and us, got together and thought, "Okay, 380 00:21:52,212 --> 00:21:55,632 how can we solve this problem?" Because it was causing a little bit of puddling 381 00:21:55,722 --> 00:22:01,212 there. And so we put that drain tile pipe in there to handle that extra 382 00:22:01,303 --> 00:22:01,812 water. 383 00:22:03,372 --> 00:22:07,782 I was going to let you know that I was there during the last rain, which we had, I 384 00:22:07,812 --> 00:22:11,502 think the big rain was like three inches in an hour. 385 00:22:11,592 --> 00:22:17,412 And you could see some water that went all the way up to the berm, the northern 386 00:22:17,532 --> 00:22:19,842 edge, and you could see it going to it. 387 00:22:20,472 --> 00:22:24,327 But you could also see that I went there the next day, you could see that all the 388 00:22:24,342 --> 00:22:28,513 water was gone. So my point is that the system was working the way it was intended 389 00:22:28,526 --> 00:22:31,331 to work, which was pretty good. 390 00:22:33,702 --> 00:22:37,647 And that's really what I have on a little bit of a history of that. 391 00:22:43,392 --> 00:22:45,072 Good evening, Mayor Teeson and Council. 392 00:22:45,882 --> 00:22:49,362 My name is Eric Miller, and I'm also with the Wheaton Sports Center. 393 00:22:49,602 --> 00:22:52,902 Eric went to explain the dome's history, and I'm going to explain a little bit more 394 00:22:52,932 --> 00:22:55,392 about why we are doing this and the benefit 395 00:22:56,652 --> 00:22:59,622 it provides. The doming up year-round 396 00:23:01,962 --> 00:23:05,832 is really beneficial for the main reason of reliability. 397 00:23:06,462 --> 00:23:08,202 Reliability is essential to Wheaton Sports Center. 398 00:23:08,322 --> 00:23:12,402 Tennis is our second-largest revenue source outside of our monthly dues. 399 00:23:13,872 --> 00:23:17,967 Now, eight of our courts, of our 12 courts, so we have four courts permanently 400 00:23:17,967 --> 00:23:20,382 indoor and eight that are in the dome. 401 00:23:20,652 --> 00:23:23,892 So for four months of the year, they are outdoors. 402 00:23:26,112 --> 00:23:30,672 That's problematic for a business when a majority of your second-biggest revenue 403 00:23:30,732 --> 00:23:36,192 source is unreliable. So it leads to cancellations from 404 00:23:36,432 --> 00:23:40,212 rain, heat, like we've experienced here recently, wind. 405 00:23:40,632 --> 00:23:44,502 So keeping the dome up protects a major part of our business while giving players 406 00:23:44,532 --> 00:23:46,812 dependable access to indoor courts. 407 00:23:47,922 --> 00:23:50,803 You can also imagine the stress it puts on our staff when they are trying to 408 00:23:50,832 --> 00:23:52,872 shuffle around and reschedule that. 409 00:23:52,977 --> 00:23:55,662 And then, of course, the frustration of the participants. 410 00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:01,122 The reliability is most important in the summertime when we run our kids' camps. 411 00:24:01,362 --> 00:24:06,852 So if you're a parent, imagine you schedule your son or daughter for tennis 412 00:24:06,912 --> 00:24:10,513 lessons. You get them in the car, which can be a hassle in and of itself. 413 00:24:11,022 --> 00:24:14,607 You get them to the Wheaton Sports Center on the way there. It's drizzling. 414 00:24:14,652 --> 00:24:18,657 You get there, it's canceled. Most cancellations happen in the summer when it's 415 00:24:18,672 --> 00:24:22,572 raining, when it rains the most. Maybe you had planned to go to the grocery store 416 00:24:22,632 --> 00:24:24,792 or have some time to yourself while your kids were in tennis as well. 417 00:24:25,272 --> 00:24:29,921 Now you have a disappointed child because tennis has been canceled, and you have to 418 00:24:29,952 --> 00:24:32,772 take them home. If you're a better parent than me, you do something with them. 419 00:24:33,732 --> 00:24:36,522 My kids are probably on the couch on the screens, so they're not going to be 420 00:24:36,612 --> 00:24:36,912 active. 421 00:24:39,492 --> 00:24:44,246 The public benefit reaches, though, beyond just our 9,000 members, many of whom are 422 00:24:44,263 --> 00:24:46,377 here today. If you could raise your hand if you're here with the Wheaton Sports 423 00:24:46,377 --> 00:24:46,572 Center. 424 00:24:49,303 --> 00:24:52,812 More than half of the kids in our tennis programming are non-members. 425 00:24:54,792 --> 00:24:58,092 Last year, more than 5,000 guest passes were used for tennis. 426 00:24:59,622 --> 00:25:04,303 We hold tournaments all the time. These are people coming from, many from Wheaton, 427 00:25:04,362 --> 00:25:06,432 but also from outside coming to Wheaton. 428 00:25:06,942 --> 00:25:10,602 While you hear the tennis tournaments, for example, are all day long. 429 00:25:10,872 --> 00:25:12,252 These people are coming to the sports center. 430 00:25:12,553 --> 00:25:16,032 We don't provide food or beverage at the sports center, so they're going into the 431 00:25:16,062 --> 00:25:17,757 community. They're going to our local restaurants. 432 00:25:17,803 --> 00:25:19,242 They're going to our grocery stores. 433 00:25:19,257 --> 00:25:22,362 They're going all over to support the community while they're in town. 434 00:25:22,542 --> 00:25:25,932 That's local money staying local. 435 00:25:31,662 --> 00:25:34,122 The dome also provides a huge benefit to our local schools. 436 00:25:34,722 --> 00:25:36,897 Wheaton North, Wheaton Warrenville South, and St. 437 00:25:37,063 --> 00:25:41,727 Francis have all had tennis practices and tryouts at the sports center when there's 438 00:25:41,772 --> 00:25:45,432 inclement weather. That's not possible with just our four indoor courts. 439 00:25:45,703 --> 00:25:47,772 We need the eight courts under the dome. 440 00:25:49,482 --> 00:25:52,542 Wheaton College men's and women's tennis teams have run practices and matches in 441 00:25:52,572 --> 00:25:57,072 our dome. Again, there are no other indoor tennis facilities in Wheaton. 442 00:25:59,082 --> 00:26:01,602 Keeping the dome up year-round also benefits our neighbors. 443 00:26:02,232 --> 00:26:04,783 When we bring it up and take it down, that's two weeks out of the year that it's a 444 00:26:04,872 --> 00:26:07,152 construction zone. There's noise that comes with that. 445 00:26:08,893 --> 00:26:12,342 It also limits the impact. The doming up limits the impact of tennis on our 446 00:26:12,372 --> 00:26:12,763 neighbors. 447 00:26:14,292 --> 00:26:16,813 The existing courts are already in use during the summer, whether the dome's up or 448 00:26:16,872 --> 00:26:19,063 down, there's tennis being played on those courts. 449 00:26:19,872 --> 00:26:24,147 However, with the dome up, the sound of balls being hit, instruction taking place, 450 00:26:24,283 --> 00:26:25,602 conversations, it's all dampened. 451 00:26:25,632 --> 00:26:28,527 It's a double membrane fabric, so it dampens the noise. 452 00:26:29,382 --> 00:26:32,727 As Eric mentioned, the lights are contained all within. It's opaque. 453 00:26:32,982 --> 00:26:37,377 There's no light escaping it. Outdoor, when the dome is down, there's 454 00:26:37,542 --> 00:26:43,482 48,000-watt light bulbs, halide bulbs that shoot 455 00:26:43,572 --> 00:26:45,222 down on the courts. That's real light. 456 00:26:47,292 --> 00:26:52,813 So again, the dome being up reduces noise, reduces lights, allows for consistent 457 00:26:52,842 --> 00:26:53,112 play. 458 00:26:54,522 --> 00:26:58,783 Lastly, in 2025, the USTA, which is similar to the PGA of America, it's the 459 00:26:58,842 --> 00:27:03,067 governing body for tennis- Awarded the Wheaton Sports Center the Facility of the 460 00:27:03,127 --> 00:27:07,416 Year award. That's for places that have over 12 tennis courts and two criteria. 461 00:27:08,586 --> 00:27:14,391 First is the quality of the courts, the enclosure, meaning our dome, and the 462 00:27:14,437 --> 00:27:18,771 site adaptation. Secondly is the quality of the programming, the instruction, and 463 00:27:18,786 --> 00:27:19,506 the growth of the game. 464 00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:24,636 I just share this simply to share that our dome is recognized by experts in the 465 00:27:24,695 --> 00:27:28,746 field as part of our tennis programming that benefits the people of Wheaton. 466 00:27:30,891 --> 00:27:36,516 So this is simple. Eric talked about the dome history, how a dome has been there 467 00:27:36,546 --> 00:27:42,516 since 1980, '79, '80. It ran along the Doyle property prior to being the 468 00:27:42,546 --> 00:27:45,817 Doyle property. Doyle property was built in 1984. 469 00:27:49,116 --> 00:27:53,496 And then we realigned it in 1988. 470 00:27:55,266 --> 00:28:00,127 So it's a simple request. It's been a simple request. We are not moving the dome. 471 00:28:00,187 --> 00:28:05,046 We're not expanding the footprint. We're not adding parking, changing the grading. 472 00:28:05,076 --> 00:28:07,927 We're not doing any of these things. We're not adding impervious area. 473 00:28:09,846 --> 00:28:12,996 For our tennis players, this means dependable access. 474 00:28:13,056 --> 00:28:15,966 For local families, it means reliable recreation. 475 00:28:16,716 --> 00:28:19,596 For Wheaton, it means supporting a nationally recognized program, 476 00:28:21,516 --> 00:28:24,996 and for our neighbors, it means more tennis activity that remains enclosed. 477 00:28:26,016 --> 00:28:29,766 So I respectfully ask you to approve our request so our business may better serve 478 00:28:29,796 --> 00:28:31,896 the Wheaton community. Thank you. 479 00:28:48,576 --> 00:28:49,207 Good evening. 480 00:28:51,427 --> 00:28:56,646 My name is Joseph Abel, A-B-E-L. I'm a planning and zoning consultant. 481 00:28:58,086 --> 00:29:00,937 I've been doing this for over 50 years, 482 00:29:02,346 --> 00:29:06,906 and I guess I'm also here because I'm a member of the Wheaton Sports Center. 483 00:29:09,246 --> 00:29:14,046 But I'm also here testifying as to why it makes sense as to what they're 484 00:29:14,106 --> 00:29:15,246 doing. 485 00:29:16,957 --> 00:29:22,296 Probably the fact that I've been a member for the Wheaton Sports Center for over 40 486 00:29:22,356 --> 00:29:26,991 years. I'm one of those dedicated Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 7:00 to 487 00:29:27,127 --> 00:29:32,901 8:00 workout people. Excellent workout, and I've been doing that 488 00:29:33,457 --> 00:29:39,067 every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, like I say, since before the year 2000 at the 489 00:29:39,096 --> 00:29:43,836 sports center. So, the program speaks for itself. I'm here. 490 00:29:45,067 --> 00:29:45,336 And, 491 00:29:47,256 --> 00:29:52,596 in terms of looking at it from a planning and zoning standpoint, I've been involved 492 00:29:52,627 --> 00:29:58,177 with so many projects. Mr. Kozak and I go way 493 00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:04,131 back. I've done literally 30, 40 projects in Wheaton, including 494 00:30:04,131 --> 00:30:08,556 the development around the county building. 495 00:30:08,646 --> 00:30:09,156 And, 496 00:30:10,506 --> 00:30:16,252 I look at this particular area where you have the children's zoo, 497 00:30:16,386 --> 00:30:21,127 and you have all the development that's taken place out there in terms of open 498 00:30:21,216 --> 00:30:27,111 space and recreation. The Wheaton Center just fits in perfectly in that particular 499 00:30:27,187 --> 00:30:27,846 location. 500 00:30:29,226 --> 00:30:34,266 As a planner, when I look at how it relates to the surrounding land uses, it's 501 00:30:34,281 --> 00:30:38,886 totally compatible. I don't think there's ever been any complaints about it. 502 00:30:39,877 --> 00:30:45,396 And the particular request that we're talking about tonight is nothing more than 503 00:30:45,486 --> 00:30:51,442 establishing whether it makes sense to leave the tower up for four months 504 00:30:51,606 --> 00:30:52,340 out of 12. 505 00:30:54,096 --> 00:31:00,006 If it functions perfectly for eight months out of the year, and there's absolutely 506 00:31:00,036 --> 00:31:04,446 been no complaints and things of that nature, and again, I 507 00:31:06,457 --> 00:31:12,156 go in addition to the morning, I've taken all my 508 00:31:12,216 --> 00:31:13,776 kids to the Wheaton Sports Center. 509 00:31:13,927 --> 00:31:19,776 So I've been totally familiar with this site, as I say, for more than 510 00:31:19,806 --> 00:31:20,586 30 years. 511 00:31:21,817 --> 00:31:25,567 And, from a land use standpoint, it's perfect. 512 00:31:25,656 --> 00:31:28,266 Wheaton did a great job in approving this originally. 513 00:31:29,166 --> 00:31:34,806 And, as I said, I'm not only a professional planner, I 514 00:31:34,986 --> 00:31:35,226 was 515 00:31:37,026 --> 00:31:42,877 director of planning, just to get in the record, for 20 years and worked on the 516 00:31:42,937 --> 00:31:46,687 county's first comprehensive plan, which included all the municipalities in 517 00:31:47,377 --> 00:31:53,106 addition to including Wheaton, and I'm totally familiar with 518 00:31:53,317 --> 00:31:56,556 everything that's gone on in Wheaton during that timeframe, because, again, they 519 00:31:56,586 --> 00:31:57,636 were part of the plan. 520 00:31:59,406 --> 00:32:03,621 After the 20 years of being with the county, I was with the Economic Development 521 00:32:03,696 --> 00:32:05,496 Commission for the City of Chicago. 522 00:32:06,336 --> 00:32:11,406 And again, looking at it from an economic development standpoint, this makes sense 523 00:32:11,466 --> 00:32:16,836 as to what's going on. So in a sense, I also then had to look at the standards 524 00:32:17,437 --> 00:32:21,906 that have to be met to amend this special use. 525 00:32:22,746 --> 00:32:26,736 And, the report of your staff, I concur with totally. 526 00:32:27,877 --> 00:32:32,901 Of the seven, there were only two that were questionable, and the very first one 527 00:32:34,177 --> 00:32:39,877 deals with the whole idea of the general welfare, keeping with all of the 528 00:32:39,966 --> 00:32:45,711 standards of the City of Wheaton. And everything has been met, and just to 529 00:32:45,756 --> 00:32:50,196 include it another four months of open 530 00:32:53,317 --> 00:32:56,196 character, it just didn't make any sense to me. 531 00:32:56,256 --> 00:32:59,346 It just makes sense to have it as a structure during the 12 months. 532 00:32:59,946 --> 00:33:05,646 Now, the one thing that's changed dramatically, and maybe that's part of 533 00:33:07,266 --> 00:33:12,457 my looking at it from a timeframe, it was interesting that I got a call from Mark 534 00:33:12,516 --> 00:33:17,496 Daniel on Friday, August the 7th. And he said, "Joe, I know you know the Wheaton 535 00:33:17,526 --> 00:33:18,996 Center very carefully 536 00:33:20,226 --> 00:33:24,906 well." And he said, "Would you be willing to testify?" And I said, "Yeah, it's a 537 00:33:24,966 --> 00:33:30,756 no-brainer." And as I was coming home from the club on Friday, I opened 538 00:33:30,771 --> 00:33:36,306 "The Chicago Tribune," and sure enough, on the front page, it says, "Poll 539 00:33:36,366 --> 00:33:41,646 shows weather reshaping daily life." And it goes right into this issue 540 00:33:42,486 --> 00:33:42,711 of 541 00:33:43,986 --> 00:33:49,446 it makes no sense today. When I started at the Wheaton Sports Center years and 542 00:33:49,506 --> 00:33:54,096 years ago, we were out a lot. But I've seen what's been happening. 543 00:33:54,187 --> 00:33:59,106 I think we all recognize exactly what this paper is saying, that the weather is 544 00:33:59,136 --> 00:34:03,127 reshaping. We have definitely done something to the atmosphere. 545 00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:06,606 Probably I contributed to it, who knows? 546 00:34:07,356 --> 00:34:12,636 But the fact remains, the summer is no longer 547 00:34:13,417 --> 00:34:18,156 open to total recreation on a daily basis. 548 00:34:18,817 --> 00:34:24,696 We can see it plainly this year with the smoke, the heat, which again, 549 00:34:24,756 --> 00:34:28,986 is not the best for people, especially older people, going out and playing tennis 550 00:34:29,047 --> 00:34:33,516 during the heat. It isn't good to be going out when you've got the smoke that 551 00:34:33,576 --> 00:34:36,156 you're breathing, and just go on and on. 552 00:34:37,056 --> 00:34:42,937 We've all seen dramatic change here, and this article proves that it makes a lot of 553 00:34:43,056 --> 00:34:43,927 sense to 554 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:50,151 have the dome for the 12 months, and especially the older people who want to play 555 00:34:50,196 --> 00:34:53,211 tennis, to maybe be in an environment that's healthy. 556 00:34:53,766 --> 00:34:57,817 So it does meet the standard of public health, safety, and standard. 557 00:34:58,836 --> 00:35:02,826 And also, the timeframe 558 00:35:04,056 --> 00:35:08,496 is still the majority of the time, at eight months, the facility is used. 559 00:35:09,006 --> 00:35:13,896 So from a land use planning standpoint and from a health standpoint, 560 00:35:15,036 --> 00:35:18,096 and as a member of the club, I think it makes 561 00:35:19,596 --> 00:35:25,177 sense to allow this facility to have the additional four months of 562 00:35:25,236 --> 00:35:26,797 enclosure. Thank you. 563 00:35:31,776 --> 00:35:34,326 Good evening, Mayor. Hi, everyone. My name is Mark Daniel. 564 00:35:34,596 --> 00:35:36,786 I'm an attorney at Daniel Law Office. 565 00:35:37,416 --> 00:35:40,956 As Joe mentioned, I came into this following the public hearing. 566 00:35:41,076 --> 00:35:43,386 I think this is a fairly straightforward request. 567 00:35:43,536 --> 00:35:46,986 I think your staff knows the history of this. 568 00:35:48,228 --> 00:35:53,779 Wheaton has amended either an annexation agreement or a special use or a planning 569 00:35:53,808 --> 00:35:57,918 or development ordinance periodically over 45 years. 570 00:35:58,248 --> 00:36:03,858 There have been changes, modifications, expansions, an addition, parking lot 571 00:36:03,918 --> 00:36:08,928 changes, the different work on pickleball and tennis, 572 00:36:09,949 --> 00:36:12,348 the dome, the modifications there. 573 00:36:13,518 --> 00:36:18,827 As far as this project is concerned, I think it's been very well vetted. 574 00:36:19,968 --> 00:36:24,993 Vetted to the point of meeting with Tom concerning the building code issues, just 575 00:36:25,008 --> 00:36:27,138 to make sure everybody was clear on the conditions. 576 00:36:27,288 --> 00:36:32,103 In talking about the staff report, it's important to note that the conditions that 577 00:36:32,148 --> 00:36:35,029 are listed there are agreeable to Wheaton Sports Center. 578 00:36:35,808 --> 00:36:40,188 I do want to point that out. There's been some criticism of the project seemingly 579 00:36:40,218 --> 00:36:44,868 on procedural grounds. And I look back through the ordinances posted on Wheaton's 580 00:36:44,928 --> 00:36:48,678 website, going back a few decades, actually. 581 00:36:49,293 --> 00:36:52,488 And from the ones that I've posted, frankly, I don't think Wheaton Sports Center's 582 00:36:52,518 --> 00:36:55,428 gotten a no vote at the city council. 583 00:36:56,178 --> 00:37:00,348 It's an asset that you recognize, just like I did when I lived on Pleasant Hill 584 00:37:00,438 --> 00:37:04,279 Road. And part of my decision to live where I lived when I was in law school 585 00:37:04,338 --> 00:37:07,308 related to none other than the Wheaton Sports Center. 586 00:37:07,443 --> 00:37:13,188 And I've used those guest passes over time, whether I was working in 587 00:37:13,279 --> 00:37:18,828 Wheaton or not. It's certainly an asset to the community, and one that stands out. 588 00:37:19,188 --> 00:37:22,188 When the Prairie State Games were around, I was with Governor's Council on Health 589 00:37:22,218 --> 00:37:28,068 and Physical Fitness. The reality is that one of the first resources that came up 590 00:37:28,128 --> 00:37:33,199 was a soccer dome in Belleville when it came to regional tryouts and then getting 591 00:37:33,213 --> 00:37:35,328 athletes together. The second one in the state 592 00:37:37,008 --> 00:37:38,029 was Wheaton Sports Center. 593 00:37:39,318 --> 00:37:43,038 So it is a beacon, and I think it is something to be proud of. 594 00:37:46,368 --> 00:37:50,748 Eric Benson mentioned a couple things, and I want to focus on that drain tile just 595 00:37:50,808 --> 00:37:54,978 a little bit. I don't believe that we have a stormwater problem here. 596 00:37:55,968 --> 00:37:58,668 He mentioned the respective elevations of the property. 597 00:37:58,699 --> 00:38:03,978 Wheaton Sports Center is slightly elevated above the Doyle Construction property to 598 00:38:04,038 --> 00:38:08,958 the south-southeast. And they're both elevated substantially above, maybe eight 599 00:38:09,048 --> 00:38:13,848 feet above in Doyle's case, up to 10 or 12, depending on our situation, 600 00:38:17,418 --> 00:38:21,678 as far as the downgradient. Now, rainfalls, it goes to the lowest point. 601 00:38:21,738 --> 00:38:26,779 When it hits a berm, it ponds. When owners get together, like what Mr. 602 00:38:26,988 --> 00:38:31,608 Benson discussed, and they create a drain like that, it's what's called a mutual 603 00:38:31,638 --> 00:38:36,363 drain. By agreement, they installed a drain, and that drain is protected by 604 00:38:36,408 --> 00:38:41,283 Illinois law. It may be entirely on Doyle's property, but neighbors have worked 605 00:38:41,298 --> 00:38:44,973 together over the years. I don't believe that anyone mentioned the adjustment in 606 00:38:44,988 --> 00:38:48,693 the lot line earlier, but there's a jog that you'll see around Doyle's building, 607 00:38:48,738 --> 00:38:51,288 and that was because it was built initially in the wrong place. 608 00:38:52,279 --> 00:38:55,098 So Wheaton Sports Center actually deeded some land over to Doyle. 609 00:38:55,728 --> 00:39:01,172 They're good neighbors to have. I think I will be available for anything that comes 610 00:39:01,218 --> 00:39:06,618 up legally. I don't want to try to predict where Doyle and others may come in. 611 00:39:07,068 --> 00:39:11,868 I've known Phil a long time. I think he would raise only credible issues, but I'll 612 00:39:11,898 --> 00:39:15,258 wait to see what they have to say, and we're certainly available to answer any of 613 00:39:15,332 --> 00:39:17,058 your questions that you may have of us. 614 00:39:19,038 --> 00:39:21,618 I think Dawn has done her job on this one. 615 00:39:22,098 --> 00:39:26,973 The review of this has required an understanding of the zoning ordinance, and Dawn 616 00:39:27,048 --> 00:39:29,508 knows that we don't always see eye to eye on everything. 617 00:39:29,598 --> 00:39:32,658 But the reality is, on this one, we do, and we're in lockstep. 618 00:39:33,078 --> 00:39:37,279 The Wheaton ordinance is set up so that PUDs or planned developments are 619 00:39:37,338 --> 00:39:41,029 recognized. They're approved, and over time, there are adjustments. 620 00:39:41,238 --> 00:39:46,008 You don't have to come in and get a new planned unit development every single time. 621 00:39:46,053 --> 00:39:50,058 What you want to do is you want to make sure that the adjustment doesn't defeat 622 00:39:50,598 --> 00:39:53,838 those findings that have been made over the 45 years, 623 00:39:55,428 --> 00:39:59,988 the findings of public benefit and everything else that are available to you. 624 00:40:00,108 --> 00:40:02,088 So I hope that you will apply 625 00:40:04,938 --> 00:40:08,118 what you know about Wheaton Sports Center, what you know about the city of Wheaton, 626 00:40:09,588 --> 00:40:13,818 and I hope that we'll have your blessing going into the next meeting when an 627 00:40:13,848 --> 00:40:15,529 ordinance will be ready for approval. 628 00:40:15,768 --> 00:40:19,008 I want to thank you for your time on this, and I'll cede to everybody else. 629 00:40:19,128 --> 00:40:19,578 Thank you. 630 00:40:24,048 --> 00:40:29,628 Mr. Daniels, before you sit down, can you please articulate the 631 00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:33,648 seven special use permit standards for the record? 632 00:40:34,998 --> 00:40:36,558 Yes, I can do that for you. 633 00:40:40,818 --> 00:40:41,748 As far as 634 00:40:43,038 --> 00:40:48,738 the submittal is concerned, we did provide a bullet point summary of the seven 635 00:40:48,858 --> 00:40:54,453 standards. First, on the public health, safety, and welfare side, and what I'm 636 00:40:54,468 --> 00:40:59,043 going to do is I'm trying to narrow it down to the dome being up those additional 637 00:40:59,148 --> 00:41:04,488 months. Okay? I don't want to talk about the general welfare benefit of doing 638 00:41:04,518 --> 00:41:08,238 something that helps the Wheaton Sports Center provide a stronger option for folks 639 00:41:08,268 --> 00:41:13,158 in the area. But this air-supported structure, if it's up during the summer months 640 00:41:13,188 --> 00:41:18,243 when the higher winds are more likely to occur, is rated for 110 miles an hour, 641 00:41:19,518 --> 00:41:25,353 which is terrific. We have not had an incident where wind has caused a deflation 642 00:41:25,398 --> 00:41:30,663 or a problem with that dome. As far as the structure is 643 00:41:30,678 --> 00:41:34,818 concerned, from a code perspective, that's your general measure of welfare. 644 00:41:34,908 --> 00:41:39,498 We have a primary and a backup system to keep that code inflated. 645 00:41:39,618 --> 00:41:43,818 I think it was stated that it takes about 45 to 50 minutes at a minimum for that 646 00:41:44,658 --> 00:41:49,158 dome to come down if there is an issue, sometimes longer. 647 00:41:49,758 --> 00:41:54,213 No one mentioned today the reduction in noise relative to putting the dome up and 648 00:41:54,288 --> 00:41:59,388 taking it down. You have a crew of 10 key people that come in one week to put it 649 00:41:59,508 --> 00:42:05,342 up and take it down. It's a week each time, and those 10 people need 40 or 650 00:42:05,508 --> 00:42:10,728 50 volunteers to coordinate outdoors behind the residential homes off to our west. 651 00:42:10,758 --> 00:42:14,672 It may not interfere with anything that Doyle does, but having that dome up 652 00:42:14,718 --> 00:42:18,258 year-round and not coming down twice a year does give people two more peaceful 653 00:42:18,348 --> 00:42:21,798 weeks. Initially, the dome is down during those summer months. 654 00:42:24,168 --> 00:42:26,058 All of us are outdoors more in the summer. 655 00:42:27,258 --> 00:42:31,968 So having that dome up for those additional months will help us or help neighbors 656 00:42:32,029 --> 00:42:37,848 enjoy their yards more. That transitions into the second standard, 657 00:42:37,938 --> 00:42:43,279 which is not interfering with the use and enjoyment of nearby property and property 658 00:42:43,338 --> 00:42:43,818 values. 659 00:42:45,798 --> 00:42:51,199 As mentioned, the dome does reduce the noise, and it is opaque, 660 00:42:52,038 --> 00:42:57,168 so it should not have an interference on someone's use and enjoyment of their 661 00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:58,218 properties. 662 00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:01,938 Relatively speaking, 663 00:43:03,588 --> 00:43:09,168 I think it is safe to say, based on my experience, I've known others that moved to 664 00:43:09,228 --> 00:43:14,029 that particular area because they enjoy the Wheaton Sports Center. They do. 665 00:43:14,508 --> 00:43:18,678 And they like being there, whether it's me or Pete Zamus, who I went there a few 666 00:43:18,798 --> 00:43:21,618 times with. They do enjoy that. Now, 667 00:43:23,148 --> 00:43:25,113 I think that does add to value to the homes. 668 00:43:25,188 --> 00:43:30,963 You've got some additional information regarding over asking price, real 669 00:43:31,008 --> 00:43:36,168 estate transactions. But from a development perspective, the site still is 670 00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,208 reflected as OR on your zoning map. 671 00:43:38,628 --> 00:43:42,978 That doesn't mean a lot as far as zoning is concerned, because the zoning for this 672 00:43:43,038 --> 00:43:46,878 is governed by a site-specific planned unit development ordinance. 673 00:43:47,718 --> 00:43:53,118 And you have approval for any change that goes on at that 674 00:43:53,208 --> 00:43:53,779 property. 675 00:43:55,428 --> 00:43:57,738 The properties around it came later. 676 00:43:57,888 --> 00:44:03,378 We do have a new development occurring east southeast of the dome, 677 00:44:03,828 --> 00:44:07,773 and that new development is an indication that people are investing in the area and 678 00:44:07,788 --> 00:44:12,318 that it hasn't sat idle because of any particular issue with that dome, which is up 679 00:44:12,348 --> 00:44:18,138 most of the year. So hopefully, the three additional summer months will not cause a 680 00:44:18,168 --> 00:44:18,708 problem. 681 00:44:21,048 --> 00:44:23,658 We're not increasing the occupancy. You heard of that before. 682 00:44:24,408 --> 00:44:26,658 We're not going to be increasing our parking demand. 683 00:44:27,048 --> 00:44:30,018 The use of the area underneath the dome is not changing. 684 00:44:31,008 --> 00:44:34,878 As far as utilities, access, drainage, and necessary facilities, I think you heard 685 00:44:34,908 --> 00:44:39,033 some detail about that. There has been some cooperation among the neighbors with 686 00:44:39,078 --> 00:44:43,368 regard to that particular tile. We are at a higher elevation, which means that the 687 00:44:43,398 --> 00:44:47,628 downstream or downgradient owner is obligated to take our stormwater 688 00:44:49,248 --> 00:44:54,408 Our storm system does not extend onto the Doyle property. 689 00:44:54,678 --> 00:44:59,118 There may be some limited cross-connections, but nothing is impacted on the utility 690 00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:05,163 side or on the storm side. There is a large bank of stormwater capacity that is in 691 00:45:05,208 --> 00:45:07,503 the Wheaton Park District and Forest Preserve facility. 692 00:45:08,088 --> 00:45:13,053 You'll recall that, I think it's Lincoln Marsh, there's a large area that 693 00:45:13,128 --> 00:45:19,008 has historically been a combination of storm and wetland, and then it becomes a 694 00:45:19,068 --> 00:45:24,648 critical wetland as you move west of the path, southwest of the path. 695 00:45:26,478 --> 00:45:30,318 None of that will be affected. Again, no change during those three months of the 696 00:45:30,378 --> 00:45:34,578 use of the dome. There shouldn't be any issues or changes in traffic, and that was 697 00:45:34,608 --> 00:45:38,598 addressed at hearing. Consistency with the comprehensive plan. 698 00:45:39,288 --> 00:45:44,883 The comprehensive plan does focus on assets, municipal assets, things that 699 00:45:44,928 --> 00:45:49,158 benefit the public, and I think they've given you some information tonight in the 700 00:45:49,218 --> 00:45:53,268 hearing that matters in that regard. Year-round tennis does matter. 701 00:45:54,108 --> 00:45:59,163 When Joe speaks, at his age, I'm 25 years behind him theoretically, 702 00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:04,218 and I stand here in my second summer of it not being the time when I'm in shape. 703 00:46:04,908 --> 00:46:09,363 I usually use my summers to get in shape, and then frankly, that hasn't happened 704 00:46:09,378 --> 00:46:13,324 two years in a row because I'm a biker, I'm outdoors all the time, and a lot of 705 00:46:13,368 --> 00:46:17,043 that activity has been limited. And I don't like the taste of smoke when I'm riding 706 00:46:17,178 --> 00:46:19,654 a bike or jogging or anything like that. 707 00:46:20,928 --> 00:46:24,288 I did focus on compliance with applicable regulations a bit. 708 00:46:24,678 --> 00:46:29,988 I think going forward, it's important to note that there's a transition. All right? 709 00:46:30,048 --> 00:46:35,508 The building code gives staff the ability to transition the use. 710 00:46:36,018 --> 00:46:40,428 They are in charge of interpreting it, so please don't take anything that I say as 711 00:46:40,488 --> 00:46:45,768 trying to tell them how to do their job or contesting anything within those 712 00:46:45,798 --> 00:46:47,928 conditions, which are fully acceptable to us. 713 00:46:48,018 --> 00:46:50,808 But there will be an initial inspection to set a baseline, 714 00:46:52,338 --> 00:46:56,598 and going forward from that inspection, there'll be materials on file with the city 715 00:46:56,688 --> 00:47:01,593 so that they know the design specifications of that dome and everybody's on the 716 00:47:01,668 --> 00:47:04,998 same page with those design specifications. 717 00:47:05,958 --> 00:47:11,538 The only change in those conditions from the zoning hearing was essentially to 718 00:47:11,598 --> 00:47:15,768 recognize that there are these specifications out there and let's use them as a 719 00:47:15,828 --> 00:47:19,068 benchmark. So if we talk about a derecho, for example. 720 00:47:19,488 --> 00:47:24,723 A derecho has winds that are 35 miles an hour, 45 miles an hour below the winds 721 00:47:24,738 --> 00:47:27,678 that this dome's designed for. Okay? 722 00:47:27,738 --> 00:47:31,308 And without having an incident over 45 years, these folks are obviously very 723 00:47:31,428 --> 00:47:35,898 careful in how they operate the dome. The same thing is true of snow load. 724 00:47:36,798 --> 00:47:41,898 That snow is intended to melt and slough off the dome in a way that's safe. 725 00:47:42,558 --> 00:47:48,468 In general, you can have a lot more snow on that dome than you have on your 726 00:47:48,588 --> 00:47:52,188 streets before you plow, or you consider a significant plowing of it because that's 727 00:47:52,218 --> 00:47:54,978 how it's designed. So those specifications make a difference. 728 00:47:56,029 --> 00:47:57,408 And, certainly, 729 00:47:58,908 --> 00:48:03,872 I think Mr. Benson and Mr. Miller are excited to go forward with this and work with 730 00:48:03,888 --> 00:48:06,423 the city on those conditions. They've already met with staff 731 00:48:07,638 --> 00:48:13,518 to discuss some of those. And from a going forward perspective, when they replace 732 00:48:13,548 --> 00:48:16,938 the dome, they will also get a permit for that dome under the building code 733 00:48:16,968 --> 00:48:22,279 enforced at that time. So when they change that skin, it'll be subject to the 734 00:48:22,338 --> 00:48:23,328 building ordinances. 735 00:48:25,188 --> 00:48:27,678 So I believe from a code compliance perspective, 736 00:48:29,029 --> 00:48:32,838 it's important to note that we do meet those seven standards. 737 00:48:33,558 --> 00:48:36,168 We do focus on public benefit, and I think Mr. 738 00:48:36,228 --> 00:48:40,518 Miller, I don't need to restate what you heard from Mr. Miller on that front. 739 00:48:40,758 --> 00:48:45,199 You've got a lot of folks that come to Wheaton that use that, that are not members. 740 00:48:45,333 --> 00:48:48,723 This is not strictly a private member situation. 741 00:48:48,738 --> 00:48:53,268 It's not entirely all about Wheaton Sports Center, but frankly, when my kid was in 742 00:48:53,298 --> 00:48:57,918 programs or day camp or whatever it was, those days when things were canceled were 743 00:48:57,949 --> 00:49:01,788 some of the hardest days of work I experienced as an adult, quite frankly. 744 00:49:02,058 --> 00:49:05,058 It's difficult. It's frustrating for your child. 745 00:49:05,148 --> 00:49:09,828 And you end up sacrificing a day that you had planned differently. 746 00:49:09,888 --> 00:49:12,438 So hopefully it's good for everybody. 747 00:49:12,468 --> 00:49:17,718 I do encourage you to support the project and allow them to go forward as good 748 00:49:17,808 --> 00:49:18,918 neighbors. 749 00:49:20,598 --> 00:49:22,788 And we will be happy to answer any questions that you have. 750 00:49:23,238 --> 00:49:23,958 Okay. Thank you. 751 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:24,529 Thank you. 752 00:49:36,588 --> 00:49:41,358 Good evening. I'm Bob Stozek. I live at 1130 Champion Forest Court, so I'm a 753 00:49:41,418 --> 00:49:46,728 neighbor of the sports center. I've been a resident of Wheaton for over 50 years 754 00:49:46,788 --> 00:49:52,188 now and a neighbor of the sports center for 755 00:49:52,608 --> 00:49:56,118 almost 38 years, because I moved here in '88 when they were just doing the 756 00:49:56,238 --> 00:49:58,968 reconfiguration of the facility. 757 00:49:59,568 --> 00:50:00,468 And I've been a member of 758 00:50:02,238 --> 00:50:08,058 the club for about 35 years. And when I saw this 759 00:50:08,088 --> 00:50:13,458 was happening, I came, and I volunteered to solicit some input from the community. 760 00:50:13,548 --> 00:50:18,828 I was not solicited. I volunteered to go and ask people within my community and 761 00:50:18,858 --> 00:50:23,358 also within the tennis community about how they felt about this change. 762 00:50:23,418 --> 00:50:27,663 And I just want to spend a few minutes reflecting on, letting you know what that 763 00:50:27,708 --> 00:50:28,503 feedback was. 764 00:50:29,838 --> 00:50:34,098 First, from the standpoint of the Wheaton Sports Center, having worked with them 765 00:50:34,638 --> 00:50:39,648 and being one of those busybodies in the neighborhood who always kind of takes on 766 00:50:39,708 --> 00:50:40,218 issues, 767 00:50:41,449 --> 00:50:45,348 I'm familiar with the many changes that took place in the sports center over the 768 00:50:45,408 --> 00:50:51,228 last 35 years. Things like when the courts were reoriented, 769 00:50:51,708 --> 00:50:53,268 there were potential lighting issues. 770 00:50:54,078 --> 00:50:54,318 They 771 00:50:55,608 --> 00:50:58,758 worked with us, and they eliminated lighting on the last two courts so that it 772 00:50:59,268 --> 00:51:01,998 wouldn't interfere with the houses in the neighborhood. 773 00:51:02,568 --> 00:51:08,208 When the air structure went up, they did the berming and landscaping adjacent to 774 00:51:08,238 --> 00:51:12,018 the facility so that the neighbors would be protected, and there were some 775 00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:16,727 neighbors who were very excited about making sure that happened. 776 00:51:16,848 --> 00:51:22,699 We were there when the adjacent land purchase happened right next to Champion 777 00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:26,959 Forest. And then with the parking lot expansion, there were some issues with 778 00:51:27,048 --> 00:51:28,308 landscaping and 779 00:51:29,778 --> 00:51:31,728 lighting that we were able to work through with them. 780 00:51:31,878 --> 00:51:35,748 And so they've been a very good neighbor to us in terms of accommodating the needs 781 00:51:35,898 --> 00:51:38,929 of at least the Champion Forest neighborhood. 782 00:51:41,329 --> 00:51:45,903 When I talked to the Champion Forest neighbors themselves, I asked because there 783 00:51:45,903 --> 00:51:49,308 have been new neighbors, particularly on the buildings that are right adjacent to 784 00:51:49,338 --> 00:51:55,068 where the air structure is. And they didn't have any issues because they hardly 785 00:51:55,128 --> 00:51:57,978 noticed the structure from their building. 786 00:51:58,068 --> 00:52:02,838 So they haven't had sight issues in terms of looking at the air structure when it's 787 00:52:02,868 --> 00:52:06,798 been up. And the same thing is true of 788 00:52:07,998 --> 00:52:12,288 any noise issues. And I was able to talk to a number of them because 789 00:52:13,338 --> 00:52:17,508 fortuitously, we had a block party and met a lot of the new neighbors, and I was 790 00:52:17,568 --> 00:52:21,048 able to talk to people, so there were not objections from the neighbors. 791 00:52:22,158 --> 00:52:26,973 Then I went and I talked to dozens of the tennis members and actually asked them 792 00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,748 about what they thought about the extending it. 793 00:52:29,838 --> 00:52:30,018 And 794 00:52:31,459 --> 00:52:37,008 there was overwhelming support for the 12-month structure for a variety of reasons. 795 00:52:37,429 --> 00:52:40,429 But there were two main reasons that stood out from the members. 796 00:52:41,598 --> 00:52:47,148 One was having more consistent access to the courts, and the other was a 797 00:52:47,179 --> 00:52:48,768 consistent quality of play. 798 00:52:50,538 --> 00:52:54,829 Excuse me. The access issue was that 799 00:52:56,058 --> 00:53:01,338 the unavailability from having the structure taken down and up every year was at 800 00:53:01,368 --> 00:53:06,528 least two weeks interruption in terms of the schedule and being able to utilize the 801 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:11,478 courts. In addition, when storms and rains caused cancellations 802 00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,768 and bumping and changing of the schedule, and 803 00:53:17,449 --> 00:53:19,579 the members were missing at least a month. 804 00:53:19,653 --> 00:53:24,018 They're paying for 12 months of access to those facilities, but for a whole month 805 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:28,848 or more every year, they were not able to do that because either the structure was 806 00:53:28,878 --> 00:53:32,478 going up and down or weather conditions were preventing them from being able to use 807 00:53:32,508 --> 00:53:37,068 the courts. So when I asked about that, they said, "Well, having the structure up 808 00:53:37,128 --> 00:53:42,288 and having the consistency of access is absolutely the kind of thing we're looking 809 00:53:42,348 --> 00:53:42,558 for." 810 00:53:44,568 --> 00:53:45,063 Then the 811 00:53:46,489 --> 00:53:52,308 other issue on quality of play was that it provides a consistent play environment. 812 00:53:52,489 --> 00:53:58,038 So going from playing indoors and outdoors and back and forth is an issue 813 00:53:58,758 --> 00:54:02,418 when you're playing outdoors, and particularly in the summertime here, being 814 00:54:02,449 --> 00:54:03,348 adjacent to the 815 00:54:05,875 --> 00:54:11,574 To the marsh, there are a lot of issues with mosquitoes, gnats, bees, a 816 00:54:11,664 --> 00:54:15,054 variety of issues that make it difficult to play. 817 00:54:15,535 --> 00:54:21,474 And when the structure is down, it also means that those last two courts are not 818 00:54:21,489 --> 00:54:24,954 available because there's no lighting, which means it's even more difficult to get 819 00:54:25,014 --> 00:54:30,054 courts in the summertime period. So for these rather reasons they all brought up, 820 00:54:31,315 --> 00:54:35,304 they were all really very much in support from the community standpoint, at least, 821 00:54:35,454 --> 00:54:39,324 of going to 12 years of having the structure up. 822 00:54:39,354 --> 00:54:44,424 And the last was a little more generic, and that is it's become part of their 823 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,129 exercise plan. Many of the people that I played with were playing three and four 824 00:54:48,204 --> 00:54:52,554 times a week if they could. And when you take a week out of your schedule, or you 825 00:54:52,584 --> 00:54:55,644 don't know whether you're going to be able to play on a given day when you're 826 00:54:55,704 --> 00:54:59,065 working and the only time you can play in the evening and this stuff is not 827 00:54:59,125 --> 00:55:01,674 accessible to you, it's an issue for them. 828 00:55:01,734 --> 00:55:03,775 They're paying money and they're not getting access to it. 829 00:55:03,834 --> 00:55:08,679 So as I said, bottom line, the community that I talked to is very much in favor of 830 00:55:08,724 --> 00:55:13,584 the 12 months having this air structure up. So thank you. 831 00:55:13,644 --> 00:55:14,634 Very good. Thank you. 832 00:55:25,074 --> 00:55:30,579 Good evening. Phil Lukehans on behalf of Tim Doyle and EP Doyle, who is the 833 00:55:30,625 --> 00:55:32,184 neighbor directly to the south, 834 00:55:33,444 --> 00:55:39,204 who is staring at a dome five feet from his property line through the summer 835 00:55:39,294 --> 00:55:43,554 months now if this is granted. It's much different in the winter when we're not 836 00:55:43,614 --> 00:55:46,989 outside. This is five feet from his property line. 837 00:55:47,619 --> 00:55:49,194 I want to talk about a few different things. 838 00:55:50,650 --> 00:55:54,834 And as you know, as we keep hearing, we're much less active outside in the winter 839 00:55:54,894 --> 00:56:00,234 months. Agreed, but there's a reason the city council did not allow this to be a 840 00:56:00,264 --> 00:56:03,684 year-round structure back 40 years ago or however long it was. 841 00:56:04,854 --> 00:56:05,604 I want to talk about 842 00:56:07,044 --> 00:56:07,164 what 843 00:56:09,204 --> 00:56:13,014 Eric Miller talked about, this "public benefit." First of all, none of that's in 844 00:56:13,044 --> 00:56:17,275 the record before you. Not one statement of public benefit was in the record in 845 00:56:17,304 --> 00:56:20,334 front of the Planning and Zoning Committee. You can't rely on that. 846 00:56:21,294 --> 00:56:26,003 Legally, you can't. Second, those weren't public benefit. 847 00:56:26,574 --> 00:56:29,094 We have a lot of private benefit. I agree wholeheartedly. 848 00:56:29,125 --> 00:56:32,634 This is a huge benefit to the Wheaton Sports Center and its patrons. 849 00:56:33,565 --> 00:56:35,694 There is no public benefit. And 850 00:56:37,914 --> 00:56:42,684 one thing that is required when you amend the PUD, we didn't suggest it, and I've 851 00:56:42,714 --> 00:56:45,414 never suggested that you need to do a whole new PUD. 852 00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:50,304 You do have to show that the amendment is a public benefit. 853 00:56:51,684 --> 00:56:56,514 I spent six months in Lyles with that requirement in a 854 00:56:56,574 --> 00:57:01,224 prior hearing. And what I do realize that Mr. 855 00:57:01,704 --> 00:57:04,494 Daniel does not say in his letter is he doesn't say that Ms. 856 00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:07,794 Didier said that there's no requirement for a public benefit. 857 00:57:08,785 --> 00:57:14,065 She said there's no new hearing, and I completely agree with that position. 858 00:57:14,094 --> 00:57:18,294 But there is a requirement for public benefit, and there is nothing in the record, 859 00:57:18,864 --> 00:57:20,634 nothing of a public benefit before you. 860 00:57:22,644 --> 00:57:26,634 I want to talk a little about stormwater. 861 00:57:29,815 --> 00:57:34,974 As you know, this dome preexisted the stormwater ordinance regulations of both the 862 00:57:35,004 --> 00:57:35,875 county and the city. 863 00:57:39,054 --> 00:57:40,014 This change, 864 00:57:41,634 --> 00:57:45,894 I feel very strongly, requires stormwater requirements to go with it. 865 00:57:46,704 --> 00:57:51,250 Your staff has said the city had discussions with DuPage County stormwater staff, 866 00:57:52,074 --> 00:57:55,224 and they do not believe any provisions would apply to this PUD amendment. 867 00:57:56,364 --> 00:58:00,025 I called Sarah Hahn, who many of you may know is the head of the stormwater 868 00:58:00,384 --> 00:58:05,875 division, whatever her title is, and asked to try and understand this position. 869 00:58:07,614 --> 00:58:09,714 She was on a call today with her entire staff 870 00:58:11,035 --> 00:58:16,285 and asked if anybody on staff had had a conversation with the City of Wheaton staff 871 00:58:16,315 --> 00:58:19,104 regarding the Wheaton Sports Center and this issue. 872 00:58:19,974 --> 00:58:23,049 No one on that staff recalled having any such conversation. 873 00:58:23,125 --> 00:58:27,639 Not saying it didn't happen, but this is an issue that, as you know, we're trying 874 00:58:27,684 --> 00:58:30,535 to protect stormwater in this county and in the city in particular. 875 00:58:30,565 --> 00:58:33,625 You have some stronger ordinances than the county does, even for a reason. 876 00:58:34,525 --> 00:58:36,848 And that is to protect neighbors from a stormwater standpoint. 877 00:58:37,584 --> 00:58:40,268 This, as you saw, you've seen the videos, you read Mr. 878 00:58:41,094 --> 00:58:47,079 Doyle's testimony, does nothing except create more stormwater problems on 879 00:58:47,094 --> 00:58:52,674 his property. If they would fix the stormwater, if they would resolve all the 880 00:58:52,734 --> 00:58:56,484 stormwater regulations, or stormwater problems, we'd be in a different place here. 881 00:58:57,174 --> 00:59:01,809 But they're saying, "We just get to put this up." No one really believes, I don't 882 00:59:01,884 --> 00:59:07,764 believe, that water falling off a dome is the same as water running off 883 00:59:08,454 --> 00:59:13,854 a tennis court. Those are two completely different kinds of runoff, and there is 884 00:59:13,914 --> 00:59:17,094 nothing on this property that protects from that runoff. 885 00:59:18,625 --> 00:59:21,069 So all you're doing is causing a larger problem for Mr. 886 00:59:21,294 --> 00:59:23,815 Doyle's property as you go forward. 887 00:59:23,875 --> 00:59:28,644 We've heard about, "Oh, we did stuff for that property." Yeah, 50 years ago, 40 888 00:59:28,674 --> 00:59:33,204 years ago, whatever it is. That's not what we're here about. 889 00:59:33,565 --> 00:59:39,535 We're here about does this negatively affect the neighbors and the 890 00:59:39,594 --> 00:59:45,054 standards in the special use. It does. It negatively affects property values. 891 00:59:45,144 --> 00:59:46,674 It negatively affects stormwater. 892 00:59:47,275 --> 00:59:49,614 It does not comply with the stormwater regulations. 893 00:59:50,108 --> 00:59:55,344 And everybody just wants to say, "Oh, it's fine." But no one has done the work to 894 00:59:55,375 --> 00:59:55,914 find out. 895 00:59:57,384 --> 01:00:00,864 Not one person. Staff unfortunately hasn't called and said, "Hey, let's have a 896 01:00:00,924 --> 01:00:04,434 meeting about this to determine if it's true." The Sports Center hasn't done that. 897 01:00:05,694 --> 01:00:08,934 No one has gone and said, "Okay, under the county stormwater regs," which you 898 01:00:08,994 --> 01:00:13,884 obviously have adopted for the most part, "does this cause a stormwater violation?" 899 01:00:15,684 --> 01:00:17,514 I believe it does, and I strongly believe it does. 900 01:00:17,664 --> 01:00:18,474 Can I just ask? 901 01:00:19,254 --> 01:00:22,824 Yes, of course. I should say yes. That's not my place. 902 01:00:24,294 --> 01:00:26,574 Has Doyle done any stormwater 903 01:00:27,894 --> 01:00:32,213 studies? Has he had any issues with stormwater getting to the building? 904 01:00:32,483 --> 01:00:33,354 Has there been- 905 01:00:33,428 --> 01:00:35,905 Not to the building, but to his property, yes. 906 01:00:36,504 --> 01:00:42,369 And he sent to your staff a video and pictures, and the picture he sent, which was 907 01:00:42,384 --> 01:00:45,969 forwarded to you as well, was a 20-minute rain where you're seeing flooding. 908 01:00:46,285 --> 01:00:47,844 Not an hour rain, it was 20 minutes. 909 01:00:48,535 --> 01:00:51,504 So we're not just talking the building, we're talking his entire property. 910 01:00:51,549 --> 01:00:55,134 And if he wants to do changes or expansion of his building, that's going to be a 911 01:00:55,164 --> 01:01:00,565 concern. And it's not his job to take their stormwater. We know it runs downhill. 912 01:01:00,594 --> 01:01:03,474 I disagree that we're below them, completely disagree. 913 01:01:04,584 --> 01:01:08,394 But this is something they should be-- They're changing their use. 914 01:01:09,174 --> 01:01:12,144 They're changing from an eight-month to a 12-month use, and as they said, they're 915 01:01:12,204 --> 01:01:14,275 changing it in the rainiest months of the year. 916 01:01:15,775 --> 01:01:21,294 They need to show that they can comply and they're going to solve 917 01:01:21,655 --> 01:01:24,444 that problem in those four months, or at least comply with the stormwater 918 01:01:24,474 --> 01:01:26,785 ordinance. They have not done that. 919 01:01:38,364 --> 01:01:43,494 And it's not hugely important, but the stormwater here, where the snow does not 920 01:01:43,674 --> 01:01:48,429 melt on top of the roof, it falls off, and it gets plowed onto Mr. 921 01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:52,164 Doyle's property. That's not a zoning issue at this point, I understand that, but I 922 01:01:52,224 --> 01:01:54,234 just wanted to correct the record. 923 01:01:58,134 --> 01:02:00,144 The Planning and Zoning Board heard the evidence. 924 01:02:01,074 --> 01:02:06,324 They properly recommended denial of this change in the PUD. 925 01:02:08,394 --> 01:02:10,674 They were correct. This 926 01:02:13,134 --> 01:02:18,474 request does not comply with the standards one, two, three, four, and seven, and we 927 01:02:18,504 --> 01:02:22,329 would ask that you follow the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning Committee, 928 01:02:22,974 --> 01:02:27,414 which heard the evidence and made the determination that you asked them to make on 929 01:02:27,429 --> 01:02:29,214 a regular basis. Thank you for your time. 930 01:02:30,294 --> 01:02:30,744 Thank you. 931 01:02:32,244 --> 01:02:33,144 Yes, please. 932 01:02:33,354 --> 01:02:33,775 Thank you. 933 01:02:37,315 --> 01:02:41,634 Hi, Suzanne Fitch, 403 North Dairy Avenue in Wheaton. Good to see you all. 934 01:02:43,494 --> 01:02:47,875 So I'm here in support of the request made by the Wheaton Sports Center. 935 01:02:48,444 --> 01:02:51,444 I'm a member of the sports center. I play tennis there. 936 01:02:51,864 --> 01:02:55,419 As you know, I also served on the Wheaton City Council for eight years. 937 01:02:55,525 --> 01:02:59,664 Prior to that, I served on the Planning and Zoning Board for six years. 938 01:02:59,724 --> 01:03:05,334 My background is in real estate, community association, land use law. 939 01:03:06,312 --> 01:03:11,413 I think what has happened here is that the opposition's attorney has just sort of 940 01:03:11,472 --> 01:03:16,722 muddied the waters. This is a very straightforward request. 941 01:03:16,767 --> 01:03:22,362 This is an amendment to an existing planned unit development. 942 01:03:22,992 --> 01:03:28,482 The applicant, the Wheaton Sports Center, doesn't need to come in here and reapply 943 01:03:28,572 --> 01:03:34,182 for a PUD. They don't need to prove public benefit, although they did. 944 01:03:34,962 --> 01:03:40,873 They don't need to address the special use permit standards, although they did 945 01:03:40,962 --> 01:03:46,781 anyway. They've been incredibly thorough, presenting 946 01:03:46,842 --> 01:03:52,692 everything to you because of the way that this process has played out, even 947 01:03:52,753 --> 01:03:54,612 though they really didn't have to do that. 948 01:03:55,182 --> 01:04:00,522 I don't know exactly what happened at the Planning and Zoning Board, but under our 949 01:04:00,642 --> 01:04:06,582 zoning code, really the only question is whether or not this change 950 01:04:06,672 --> 01:04:12,253 is in substantial conformity with the original PUD, which it is. 951 01:04:12,822 --> 01:04:18,432 Okay, this is a minor amendment. The use has not 952 01:04:18,552 --> 01:04:24,253 changed at all. The use of this is for tennis. Okay? 953 01:04:24,853 --> 01:04:30,342 So there may be one condition that is getting altered here, but the use hasn't 954 01:04:30,402 --> 01:04:34,272 changed. This to me is very straightforward. 955 01:04:34,873 --> 01:04:40,003 I hope that you will unanimously approve the application. Thank you. 956 01:04:40,992 --> 01:04:41,503 Thank you. 957 01:04:43,182 --> 01:04:46,902 Does anyone else wish to speak to us tonight concerning this item? 958 01:04:49,032 --> 01:04:50,652 May I respond briefly on the stormwater? 959 01:04:51,222 --> 01:04:51,883 Yes. 960 01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:54,942 Thank you, Mayor. 961 01:04:56,832 --> 01:04:58,197 I have practiced in this county 962 01:05:00,282 --> 01:05:04,512 my entire career, actually. I left for a while, but had some of that work back 963 01:05:04,542 --> 01:05:08,022 here. This is a pre-code development. 964 01:05:08,353 --> 01:05:14,292 The stormwater design has been carefully planned, not just by civil engineers for 965 01:05:14,413 --> 01:05:17,712 us, but the Park District has been involved, the Forest Preserve District has been 966 01:05:17,772 --> 01:05:21,163 involved. Everyone has a shared interest there, and it's not like your staff turns 967 01:05:21,222 --> 01:05:21,972 a blind eye. 968 01:05:23,292 --> 01:05:25,572 I don't know what happened with the call to Sarah Hunn. 969 01:05:26,682 --> 01:05:32,022 I'm surprised to hear that Mr. Lukehans didn't see any public benefit at the zoning 970 01:05:32,052 --> 01:05:33,702 hearing. I read the transcripts differently. 971 01:05:34,663 --> 01:05:40,032 There is a difference between statements between legislative history and the 972 01:05:40,092 --> 01:05:44,442 record, and an attorney getting up like I did, Mayor, when I recited the standards 973 01:05:44,503 --> 01:05:48,942 to you. There's the legal conclusion from an attorney, and just because the 974 01:05:48,972 --> 01:05:52,527 attorney doesn't say, "This is one of the public benefits," doesn't mean that they 975 01:05:52,542 --> 01:05:54,133 didn't provide public benefit. 976 01:05:55,842 --> 01:06:00,072 You're asked to provide your practical judgment as council members. 977 01:06:01,003 --> 01:06:05,022 You don't set aside the legislative history, and you don't presume that folks on 978 01:06:05,082 --> 01:06:10,167 your staff set aside and willfully disregard the countywide stormwater and 979 01:06:10,182 --> 01:06:11,157 floodplain ordinance. 980 01:06:13,167 --> 01:06:18,072 You don't do that. They're professionals, and we trust them, we rely on them, 981 01:06:18,883 --> 01:06:21,133 and they are in charge of permitting. 982 01:06:21,163 --> 01:06:26,082 They deal with this every day, far more often than Mr. Lukehans and I do. 983 01:06:27,972 --> 01:06:30,762 They solve problems, and they're used to this. 984 01:06:30,822 --> 01:06:36,687 They know how this design works, and my belief is that this pre-code structure is 985 01:06:36,732 --> 01:06:38,383 one that's existed for a long time. 986 01:06:38,413 --> 01:06:43,032 Particularly when you think about that photograph that Eric Benson provided. 987 01:06:43,062 --> 01:06:47,802 When Mr. Benson talked about the alignment being north-south, that dome was in the 988 01:06:47,862 --> 01:06:52,542 same place in relation to the portion of the Doyle property that they're 989 01:06:52,572 --> 01:06:56,532 complaining about today, just north of where some trees were removed and some lawn 990 01:06:56,592 --> 01:07:00,342 was replaced, where the aerials looked a little bit different prior to the 991 01:07:00,402 --> 01:07:00,942 pandemic. 992 01:07:02,202 --> 01:07:07,603 So there was some work done back there, but the reality is that I trust staff. 993 01:07:08,082 --> 01:07:12,402 I trust the ordinance. I trust my client's ability to work within the ordinance, 994 01:07:13,302 --> 01:07:17,742 and I don't believe it's fair to stand before you and throw something against the 995 01:07:17,772 --> 01:07:22,032 wall and hope it sticks in relation to an accusation that something's not going to 996 01:07:22,152 --> 01:07:27,161 work under the countywide stormwater ordinance when this property has not 997 01:07:27,237 --> 01:07:30,072 experienced flooding issues, and Mr. 998 01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:33,356 Doyle cannot present a stormwater analysis or study. 999 01:07:34,242 --> 01:07:38,922 And all that is being handled by the city and by the owner on our side. 1000 01:07:39,042 --> 01:07:40,722 I appreciate your time this evening. 1001 01:07:40,842 --> 01:07:43,182 I do hope that we got your support going forward. 1002 01:07:43,512 --> 01:07:44,232 Okay. Thank you. 1003 01:07:44,383 --> 01:07:44,682 Thank you. 1004 01:07:44,922 --> 01:07:47,442 Is there any other comment on this item from the audience? 1005 01:07:49,062 --> 01:07:50,202 Any comment online? 1006 01:07:55,302 --> 01:07:57,913 Is there any council comment concerning this issue? 1007 01:08:00,942 --> 01:08:03,672 What's the hours of operation for Wheaton Sports Center? 1008 01:08:08,712 --> 01:08:13,272 It varies. Monday through Thursday, it is 5:00 AM until 10:00 PM. 1009 01:08:13,452 --> 01:08:13,753 Mm-hmm. 1010 01:08:14,623 --> 01:08:20,353 9:00 PM on Fridays, and then 5:00 to 6:00 on the 1011 01:08:20,383 --> 01:08:20,712 weekends. 1012 01:08:21,522 --> 01:08:22,782 Okay, so it's seven days a week. 1013 01:08:22,932 --> 01:08:23,458 Correct. Yeah. 1014 01:08:23,472 --> 01:08:24,552 Okay. 1015 01:08:26,262 --> 01:08:29,067 What's the hours of operation at Doyle's business? 1016 01:08:38,142 --> 01:08:44,067 Probably people are there between 5:00 and till 6:00 or 7:00 at night, five days 1017 01:08:44,083 --> 01:08:44,503 a week. 1018 01:08:44,802 --> 01:08:45,012 Mm-hmm. 1019 01:08:45,642 --> 01:08:48,222 Saturdays, sometimes half a day. 1020 01:08:48,312 --> 01:08:48,462 Okay. 1021 01:08:48,552 --> 01:08:49,677 Something like that, but it- 1022 01:08:49,753 --> 01:08:50,998 Could you just state your name- 1023 01:08:50,998 --> 01:08:51,432 Oh, Tim Doyle 1024 01:08:51,462 --> 01:08:52,437 ... for the record, please? 1025 01:08:52,437 --> 01:08:54,253 1100 Reno Court, Wheaton, Illinois. 1026 01:08:56,232 --> 01:08:59,593 Thank you. Five, six. Thank you. 1027 01:08:59,652 --> 01:09:03,222 Yeah, and since you called on me, I think I want to say a couple of things. 1028 01:09:04,212 --> 01:09:06,567 I don't want to be doing this. I don't want to be standing up here having this 1029 01:09:06,612 --> 01:09:08,802 argument. I don't want to be picking fights with my neighbors. 1030 01:09:09,552 --> 01:09:14,442 I called Eric Miller last week. I said, "Look, we're neighbors. 1031 01:09:14,532 --> 01:09:15,492 We're trying to be good neighbors. 1032 01:09:16,572 --> 01:09:18,222 Some things have happened here." 1033 01:09:20,022 --> 01:09:23,427 I explained to him that when the pickleball tent was approved, I got burned. 1034 01:09:24,042 --> 01:09:28,722 Because I met with the sports center, and I threw out things about eave heights, 1035 01:09:28,782 --> 01:09:33,702 and material selections, and transparency, and the look of it, and I quite honestly 1036 01:09:33,732 --> 01:09:36,282 think the pickleball tent's the ugliest thing that we have in the city of Wheaton, 1037 01:09:36,552 --> 01:09:38,442 but that's beside the point. 1038 01:09:40,242 --> 01:09:45,986 I honestly did not realize the flooding aspect of the dome until recently, because 1039 01:09:46,003 --> 01:09:48,762 there's been several events where the dome has been allowed to be left up 1040 01:09:48,792 --> 01:09:52,482 year-round, which I never understood. I never got a call. I never got told. 1041 01:09:52,527 --> 01:09:56,472 I never... A special hearing of why the dome was granted to be left up year round. 1042 01:09:56,532 --> 01:10:00,133 First, it was COVID, which made no sense to me because we all want to be outside 1043 01:10:00,162 --> 01:10:04,542 and separated. Secondly, it was the road closure and all the work, and we all had 1044 01:10:04,572 --> 01:10:07,362 to live through that, too, so I didn't understand why that was a hardship for the 1045 01:10:07,452 --> 01:10:11,802 dome be left up. And now thirdly, it was allowed to be left up this year because of 1046 01:10:11,862 --> 01:10:14,562 this hearing. And quite frankly, I don't understand that. 1047 01:10:16,152 --> 01:10:17,682 That just still made no sense to me. 1048 01:10:19,152 --> 01:10:22,152 I told Eric, quite frankly, that I want to be a good neighbor. 1049 01:10:22,242 --> 01:10:27,492 I might have an ask from you in the future, but I did not prepare myself for the 1050 01:10:27,552 --> 01:10:32,142 Planning and Zoning meeting for the pickleball tent, and I got left held to the 1051 01:10:32,202 --> 01:10:34,782 bag. There'd be many, many things. 1052 01:10:34,812 --> 01:10:39,042 That structure is two feet from my property and seven and a half feet on my window, 1053 01:10:39,522 --> 01:10:43,512 and it's 13 feet taller than the ordinance allows. Just leave that at that. 1054 01:10:44,112 --> 01:10:48,133 So when obviously the request for the tent got up, I looked through at the people 1055 01:10:48,162 --> 01:10:51,492 in the meeting, I said, "Guys, I just honestly can't. 1056 01:10:51,552 --> 01:10:57,192 Why would I want it?" I have a 40-foot high white structure that runs the 1057 01:10:57,282 --> 01:11:00,853 length of my property. I am the forgotten neighbor, and I told them that. 1058 01:11:01,452 --> 01:11:05,277 Talked to Eric Benson for the first time today, and I said, "Eric," I said, "I 1059 01:11:05,322 --> 01:11:10,422 don't know how we hear about this one foot." Well, that was Rob Elliott 65 years 1060 01:11:10,482 --> 01:11:13,572 ago. I have nothing to do with the one foot you gave them. 1061 01:11:13,633 --> 01:11:17,637 So we keep hearing these things about being a good neighbor, and I'm trying to be a 1062 01:11:17,682 --> 01:11:19,782 good neighbor, and I'm trying to be reasonable. 1063 01:11:19,797 --> 01:11:23,353 And what I did to Eric Miller last Thursday, I said, "Put a piece of paper in front 1064 01:11:23,383 --> 01:11:27,372 of my hand after a 20-minute rainfall." It was not a record rainfall, and it was 1065 01:11:27,402 --> 01:11:29,593 eight inches of water sitting where that pipe is. 1066 01:11:29,877 --> 01:11:33,762 And I TV'd that pipe, and I have no obligation to solve their stormwater problems. 1067 01:11:34,062 --> 01:11:37,302 And that pipe is an SDR26 pipe. It's six inches below grade. 1068 01:11:37,362 --> 01:11:42,537 It's not wrapped in stone. It's doing absolutely nothing to drain that area. 1069 01:11:42,927 --> 01:11:46,332 And we are not any lower than you guys. We're the exact same elevation. 1070 01:11:46,603 --> 01:11:49,633 The berm was left there, guys, because it was cheaper to berm the dirt than it was 1071 01:11:49,662 --> 01:11:53,337 to haul it away. I'm going to be coming in front of you people in the near future 1072 01:11:53,337 --> 01:11:55,752 to expand my parking lot. I am growing tremendously. 1073 01:11:55,932 --> 01:11:57,192 I need twice the amount of parking. 1074 01:11:57,642 --> 01:12:01,603 I might want to put my parking stall closer to a really ugly dome. 1075 01:12:01,662 --> 01:12:04,692 And at that time, that water's going to be a big problem for me, and I shouldn't 1076 01:12:04,752 --> 01:12:09,432 have to address that water. That's not my water I told Eric, "You resolve that 1077 01:12:09,492 --> 01:12:11,172 water problem, you and I can have a talk. 1078 01:12:11,593 --> 01:12:15,177 I can consider it." Until that water problem's resolved, I can't consider it. 1079 01:12:15,222 --> 01:12:19,122 As much as I hate it, everything else, and look next to it, and the lights that 1080 01:12:19,182 --> 01:12:23,832 stick up there that are ugly as hell, I hate it, but until they address their water 1081 01:12:23,922 --> 01:12:28,932 problem, I can't even consider it. It floods my yard, plain and simple. 1082 01:12:29,353 --> 01:12:32,742 So trying to be a good neighbor, I'm not going anywhere. 1083 01:12:32,802 --> 01:12:35,982 They're not going anywhere. I held the meeting with Eric because I was told he was 1084 01:12:36,042 --> 01:12:39,642 taking over. Eric has since called me. We talked today for a little bit. 1085 01:12:39,702 --> 01:12:41,712 First time we've ever talked. I've dealt with Roger in the past. 1086 01:12:42,162 --> 01:12:46,017 I am trying to be a good neighbor. But I do this for a living with stormwater. 1087 01:12:46,122 --> 01:12:50,832 I just don't understand how that one aspect, put everything else everyone said, I 1088 01:12:50,862 --> 01:12:53,921 don't understand how that one aspect can get ignored. I just don't. 1089 01:12:54,402 --> 01:12:55,182 Thank you for your time. 1090 01:12:55,482 --> 01:12:56,232 Okay, thank you. 1091 01:12:58,542 --> 01:13:00,372 Any other discussion from the council? 1092 01:13:02,322 --> 01:13:07,182 I guess I'd say a couple of words. I ultimately think this is a huge 1093 01:13:08,202 --> 01:13:10,032 miscalculation of use of time 1094 01:13:11,802 --> 01:13:12,612 by Mr. Doyle. 1095 01:13:14,142 --> 01:13:18,252 I think the structure being up since 1988 and the orientation that it has been, 1096 01:13:19,422 --> 01:13:20,652 there's no new issues here. 1097 01:13:21,972 --> 01:13:26,502 I really struggle to see any validated, the kind of intimation that I had, which 1098 01:13:26,562 --> 01:13:31,962 was, "I don't like something, pickleball, and so therefore I want to make this 1099 01:13:32,082 --> 01:13:32,593 difficult." 1100 01:13:34,062 --> 01:13:39,792 So unfortunately, I think what we have here is sadly an erosion of public 1101 01:13:39,853 --> 01:13:42,012 influence by the use of this time. 1102 01:13:43,752 --> 01:13:47,127 I think that's a miscalculation on your part, and you need to reflect on that, and 1103 01:13:47,202 --> 01:13:52,302 you need to reflect on who you brought to challenge this conversation even further. 1104 01:13:52,422 --> 01:13:54,853 I think the public benefit is fairly evident. 1105 01:13:55,182 --> 01:13:57,478 Reduced noise pollution, reduced light pollution, 1106 01:13:59,532 --> 01:14:04,032 year-round use of the facility, more reliable for those paying members, what have 1107 01:14:04,093 --> 01:14:08,652 you, referred from surrounding members. So I really struggle with this. 1108 01:14:10,572 --> 01:14:15,343 I think it's unfortunate. I've lived in this community for a very long time, drove 1109 01:14:15,402 --> 01:14:19,512 by a facility that Doyle Construction was doing, and I see that they've been around 1110 01:14:19,542 --> 01:14:24,718 for 80 years. I can tell you if you keep these kind of energies up around your 1111 01:14:24,732 --> 01:14:28,633 neighbors, that you won't have any trouble worrying about parking. 1112 01:14:28,782 --> 01:14:29,532 It won't be a need. 1113 01:14:30,853 --> 01:14:36,582 I just think that there's a need for a better neighborly approach to this 1114 01:14:37,302 --> 01:14:38,772 than what we've seen here tonight. 1115 01:14:39,732 --> 01:14:45,582 So again, I'm in favor of the proposal. I appreciate the city's work on it. 1116 01:14:46,992 --> 01:14:50,922 I think some of the challenges here reside ultimately to the city, not to the 1117 01:14:50,982 --> 01:14:52,272 Wheaton Sports Center. 1118 01:14:53,502 --> 01:14:58,197 I think the city historically has done a wonderful job with that, and I'm happy to 1119 01:14:58,212 --> 01:14:58,752 support it. 1120 01:15:02,322 --> 01:15:04,302 Thank you. Any other comments from the council? 1121 01:15:08,112 --> 01:15:08,502 Okay. 1122 01:15:12,012 --> 01:15:16,572 Yeah, I'm kind of sitting here wondering why this is an issue. 1123 01:15:19,452 --> 01:15:25,272 When we look at a PUD, usually we're trying to visualize what's going to happen. 1124 01:15:26,832 --> 01:15:31,992 We're looking at a PUD here that already exists. There's nothing new here. 1125 01:15:32,832 --> 01:15:38,052 There's no change in the structure. There's no change in the use, as was mentioned. 1126 01:15:38,982 --> 01:15:42,612 It's in compliance eight months out of the year. 1127 01:15:44,142 --> 01:15:48,462 How can it be an assumption that it wouldn't be in compliance for the remaining 1128 01:15:48,552 --> 01:15:52,752 four months of the year? I don't understand that. 1129 01:15:54,312 --> 01:15:58,332 Granted, this is something that's existed for over 35 years. 1130 01:16:00,912 --> 01:16:01,272 And 1131 01:16:03,402 --> 01:16:07,152 it's kind of interesting listening to these discussions because you learn 1132 01:16:07,242 --> 01:16:11,802 something. As the longer the conversation goes on, you learn something new. 1133 01:16:13,212 --> 01:16:18,176 We've heard the discussion about the five-foot setback, and the requirement's a 1134 01:16:18,192 --> 01:16:22,962 10-foot setback. Well, that was a part of the original PUD. 1135 01:16:23,593 --> 01:16:27,551 That's not new. That was part of maybe even the annexation agreement. 1136 01:16:29,742 --> 01:16:35,353 So, I understand the frustration here, but 1137 01:16:35,383 --> 01:16:41,202 this already exists. And it is just hard to represent 1138 01:16:41,262 --> 01:16:45,912 that going from an eight-month period to a 12-month period would bring this into 1139 01:16:45,972 --> 01:16:48,432 non-compliance. So, 1140 01:16:49,962 --> 01:16:55,843 I appreciate the back and forth. I appreciate the work our staff has done on this. 1141 01:16:55,932 --> 01:17:00,732 The recommendation from staff is to approve this PUD. 1142 01:17:01,633 --> 01:17:06,612 That recommendation accommodates or addresses the issues with respect to water. 1143 01:17:08,353 --> 01:17:12,432 When I looked at this initially, my biggest concern, "Okay, this is becoming a 1144 01:17:12,522 --> 01:17:15,042 permanent structure. Does that create a water issue?" 1145 01:17:16,392 --> 01:17:19,392 And we've been advised by our staff that that's not the case. 1146 01:17:20,412 --> 01:17:24,777 And you're right, our requirements are stiffer than that of the county, so I don't 1147 01:17:24,792 --> 01:17:28,811 think I'd be so worried about what Sarah Hahn has to say. 1148 01:17:29,202 --> 01:17:33,612 So, I think I'm prepared to move forward with this. 1149 01:17:33,672 --> 01:17:39,642 So, the motion on the table is to direct the city attorney to provide an ordinance 1150 01:17:39,702 --> 01:17:44,112 approving the PUD amendment. Andy, could you call the roll, please? 1151 01:17:45,672 --> 01:17:46,362 Councilman Brown? 1152 01:17:46,572 --> 01:17:47,532 With pleasure, yes. 1153 01:17:48,012 --> 01:17:48,582 Mayor Ses? 1154 01:17:48,732 --> 01:17:49,093 Yes. 1155 01:17:49,662 --> 01:17:50,472 Councilman Klausing? 1156 01:17:50,622 --> 01:17:50,862 Yes. 1157 01:17:51,192 --> 01:17:52,152 Councilwoman Robbins? 1158 01:17:52,272 --> 01:17:52,542 Yes. 1159 01:17:52,843 --> 01:17:56,022 Councilman Weller? Yes. Councilwoman Bray Parker? 1160 01:17:56,262 --> 01:17:56,593 Yes. 1161 01:17:56,832 --> 01:17:57,642 Councilwoman Brice? 1162 01:17:57,792 --> 01:17:58,093 Yes. 1163 01:17:58,362 --> 01:17:58,752 Thank you. 1164 01:17:59,593 --> 01:18:00,282 Okay. Thank you. 1165 01:18:05,202 --> 01:18:10,992 We move on to item five. Item five is to receive the planning and zoning report, 1166 01:18:11,082 --> 01:18:16,182 zoning application 26-21, special use permit and variation, 1167 01:18:16,902 --> 01:18:22,603 1011 Dellea Road, Raia, and an ordinance granting a special use 1168 01:18:22,722 --> 01:18:27,822 permit and a side yard setback variation to allow the remodeling of an existing 1169 01:18:27,853 --> 01:18:33,641 detached garage into a pool house on a certain piece of property commonly known 1170 01:18:33,822 --> 01:18:35,711 as 1011 Dellea 1171 01:18:37,032 --> 01:18:42,792 Road, Raia. Is there a motion, please, to receive the planning and zoning report, 1172 01:18:42,942 --> 01:18:45,567 zoning application 26-21? 1173 01:18:45,883 --> 01:18:46,812 So moved. 1174 01:18:46,843 --> 01:18:47,742 Is there a second? 1175 01:18:47,802 --> 01:18:48,222 Second. 1176 01:18:50,218 --> 01:18:51,117 Any discussion? 1177 01:18:52,452 --> 01:18:54,222 Andy, could you call the roll, please? 1178 01:18:54,282 --> 01:18:57,012 Councilman Weller? Yes. Councilwoman Bray Parker? 1179 01:18:57,072 --> 01:18:57,537 Yes. 1180 01:18:57,552 --> 01:18:58,437 Councilwoman Brice? 1181 01:18:58,662 --> 01:18:59,022 Yes. 1182 01:18:59,082 --> 01:18:59,787 Councilman Brown? 1183 01:19:00,133 --> 01:19:00,387 Yes. 1184 01:19:00,432 --> 01:19:01,017 Mayor Ses? 1185 01:19:01,872 --> 01:19:02,142 Yes. 1186 01:19:02,383 --> 01:19:03,327 Councilman Klausing? 1187 01:19:03,327 --> 01:19:03,552 Yes. 1188 01:19:03,718 --> 01:19:04,572 Councilwoman Robbins? 1189 01:19:04,662 --> 01:19:04,962 Yes. 1190 01:19:05,172 --> 01:19:05,593 Thank you. 1191 01:19:06,942 --> 01:19:11,052 Is there a motion, please, to approve an ordinance granting a special use permit 1192 01:19:11,112 --> 01:19:15,747 and a side yard setback variation to allow the remodeling of an existing detached 1193 01:19:15,822 --> 01:19:21,343 garage into a pool house on a certain piece of property commonly known as 1011 1194 01:19:21,372 --> 01:19:24,642 Dellea Road, Raia? 1195 01:19:25,302 --> 01:19:25,902 So moved. 1196 01:19:26,862 --> 01:19:26,907 So moved. 1197 01:19:26,922 --> 01:19:32,532 We have a motion by- That was pretty good ... Mr. Weller, a second by Ms. 1198 01:19:33,432 --> 01:19:38,442 Bray Parker. Any discussion from the audience on this item? 1199 01:19:40,872 --> 01:19:42,192 Discussion from the council? 1200 01:19:44,232 --> 01:19:45,972 Andy, could you call the roll, please? 1201 01:19:46,272 --> 01:19:48,792 Councilman Weller? Yes. Councilwoman Bray Parker? 1202 01:19:48,912 --> 01:19:49,242 Yes. 1203 01:19:49,392 --> 01:19:50,292 Councilwoman Brice? 1204 01:19:50,472 --> 01:19:50,593 Yes. 1205 01:19:51,072 --> 01:19:51,822 Councilman Brown? 1206 01:19:51,972 --> 01:19:52,107 Yes. 1207 01:19:52,422 --> 01:19:53,052 Mayor Ses? 1208 01:19:53,262 --> 01:19:53,442 Yes. 1209 01:19:53,652 --> 01:19:54,642 Councilman Klausing? 1210 01:19:54,792 --> 01:19:54,972 Yes. 1211 01:19:55,152 --> 01:19:56,052 Councilwoman Robbins? 1212 01:19:56,172 --> 01:19:56,502 Yes. 1213 01:19:56,562 --> 01:19:56,982 Thank you. 1214 01:19:58,932 --> 01:20:04,332 Item six is discussion concerning zoning application 26-22, 1215 01:20:04,512 --> 01:20:07,782 subdivision 1028 Lodalia Court, St. 1216 01:20:08,022 --> 01:20:13,093 Matthew United Church of Christ, and a motion to direct the city attorney to draft 1217 01:20:13,122 --> 01:20:15,492 a resolution as directed. Mr. Montz. 1218 01:20:17,322 --> 01:20:21,147 Thank you, Mayor. St. Matthew United Church of Christ submitted an application to 1219 01:20:21,312 --> 01:20:25,452 subdivide a lot located at 1028 Lodalia Court. 1220 01:20:25,572 --> 01:20:30,627 The lot was part of a 2012 annexation that created eight single-family lots on what 1221 01:20:30,672 --> 01:20:35,772 is now Lodalia Court. The original annexation contemplated two possible uses for 1222 01:20:35,802 --> 01:20:40,812 this particular lot, either a parking lot for the church or two single-family lots. 1223 01:20:41,442 --> 01:20:45,343 St. Matthew has now decided to proceed with the latter and requests the lot be 1224 01:20:45,402 --> 01:20:49,917 subdivided. The resulting lots meet the size requirements of their R3 zoning 1225 01:20:49,992 --> 01:20:54,027 designation. If the city council is supportive of the subdivision, staff would 1226 01:20:54,042 --> 01:20:57,011 draft a resolution for your later consideration. 1227 01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:03,432 Okay. Is there a motion, please, to direct the city attorney to prepare a 1228 01:21:03,492 --> 01:21:07,182 resolution approving the subdivision? 1229 01:21:07,542 --> 01:21:08,052 So moved. 1230 01:21:08,292 --> 01:21:09,133 Is there a second? 1231 01:21:09,432 --> 01:21:09,792 Second. 1232 01:21:10,572 --> 01:21:12,582 Any discussion from the audience? 1233 01:21:13,932 --> 01:21:15,192 Discussion from the council? 1234 01:21:17,064 --> 01:21:21,564 Are there any recapture provisions associated with this property or the 1235 01:21:21,654 --> 01:21:22,404 subdivision? 1236 01:21:24,504 --> 01:21:24,684 No. 1237 01:21:25,254 --> 01:21:25,643 Okay. 1238 01:21:26,154 --> 01:21:26,934 Yes, sir. Good day. 1239 01:21:27,504 --> 01:21:29,754 Very good. Any other questions or comments? 1240 01:21:30,864 --> 01:21:32,363 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1241 01:21:32,559 --> 01:21:33,354 Councilwoman Brice. 1242 01:21:33,535 --> 01:21:34,044 Yes. 1243 01:21:34,104 --> 01:21:34,764 Councilman Brown. 1244 01:21:35,454 --> 01:21:35,709 Yes. 1245 01:21:35,995 --> 01:21:36,594 Mayor Suess. 1246 01:21:36,774 --> 01:21:37,224 Yes. 1247 01:21:37,285 --> 01:21:38,154 Councilman Klausing. 1248 01:21:38,364 --> 01:21:38,574 Yes. 1249 01:21:38,995 --> 01:21:39,864 Councilwoman Robbins. 1250 01:21:40,014 --> 01:21:40,584 Yes. 1251 01:21:40,644 --> 01:21:41,349 Councilman Weller. 1252 01:21:41,634 --> 01:21:42,294 Yes. 1253 01:21:42,354 --> 01:21:43,344 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1254 01:21:43,584 --> 01:21:44,064 Yes. 1255 01:21:44,124 --> 01:21:44,454 Thank you. 1256 01:21:45,924 --> 01:21:51,009 Item seven is a resolution authorizing the execution of agreement number 639 with 1257 01:21:51,024 --> 01:21:56,574 Schroeder and Schroeder Inc. for construction services for the 2026 Fall New 1258 01:21:57,474 --> 01:22:03,459 Sidewalk Program, for a total amount not to exceed $1,047,700 1259 01:22:04,074 --> 01:22:07,044 and a 10% contingency. Mr. Munsch. 1260 01:22:07,914 --> 01:22:12,144 Mayor, the engineering department's completed planning work for the 2026 New 1261 01:22:12,234 --> 01:22:16,344 Sidewalk Program, which continues the city's efforts to create a comprehensive 1262 01:22:16,434 --> 01:22:18,054 sidewalk network throughout the community. 1263 01:22:18,745 --> 01:22:23,364 Staff solicited bids for the installation of nearly 14,000 feet of new sidewalk 1264 01:22:23,394 --> 01:22:26,874 this fall. Seven bids were received, with a low bid of 1265 01:22:26,904 --> 01:22:31,599 $1,047,700 being submitted by Schroeder and Schroeder. 1266 01:22:32,094 --> 01:22:36,684 That amount is very favorable to the $1.8 million budget that was estimated for 1267 01:22:36,745 --> 01:22:40,104 this work, and staff recommends approval of the agreement. 1268 01:22:41,184 --> 01:22:45,264 Thank you. Is there a motion, please, to adopt the resolution? 1269 01:22:46,824 --> 01:22:47,424 So moved. 1270 01:22:47,454 --> 01:22:48,324 Is there a second? 1271 01:22:48,984 --> 01:22:49,209 Second. 1272 01:22:49,734 --> 01:22:53,844 Any discussion from the audience? Discussion from the council? 1273 01:22:54,354 --> 01:22:58,434 I just have a comment. I think when we always do this, when we've been doing this, 1274 01:22:59,094 --> 01:23:04,704 just to confirm that the communication between the neighborhoods, the individuals, 1275 01:23:05,544 --> 01:23:07,644 and whom we've hired is 1276 01:23:08,904 --> 01:23:13,944 good and hearty and informative, because that always seems to come back at us, and 1277 01:23:14,004 --> 01:23:16,704 rightfully so, because this is people's neighborhoods. 1278 01:23:16,824 --> 01:23:19,854 So, that's the only comment I'd like to make. 1279 01:23:19,884 --> 01:23:24,204 Very good. Thank you. Any other comments? Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1280 01:23:25,794 --> 01:23:25,809 Councilman Brown. 1281 01:23:25,884 --> 01:23:26,184 Yes. 1282 01:23:26,304 --> 01:23:26,874 Mayor Suess. 1283 01:23:26,964 --> 01:23:27,264 Yes. 1284 01:23:27,504 --> 01:23:28,434 Councilman Klausing. 1285 01:23:28,524 --> 01:23:28,764 Yes. 1286 01:23:29,035 --> 01:23:29,964 Councilwoman Robbins. 1287 01:23:30,024 --> 01:23:30,294 Yes. 1288 01:23:30,535 --> 01:23:31,254 Councilman Weller. 1289 01:23:31,495 --> 01:23:31,674 Yes. 1290 01:23:32,274 --> 01:23:33,294 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1291 01:23:33,444 --> 01:23:33,714 Yes. 1292 01:23:33,894 --> 01:23:34,824 Councilwoman Brice. 1293 01:23:34,914 --> 01:23:35,245 Yes. 1294 01:23:35,364 --> 01:23:35,785 Thank you. 1295 01:23:37,224 --> 01:23:41,964 Item eight is a resolution for improvement under the Illinois Highway Code 1296 01:23:42,204 --> 01:23:47,094 2026 Fall New Sidewalk Program. Mr. Munsch. 1297 01:23:48,024 --> 01:23:52,314 This resolution is related to the last agenda item that you approved, which is 1298 01:23:52,374 --> 01:23:54,444 funded through the motor fuel tax fund. 1299 01:23:54,864 --> 01:23:58,479 Prior to the expenditure of state MFT funds, the Illinois Department of 1300 01:23:58,554 --> 01:24:01,884 Transportation requires the execution of this resolution. 1301 01:24:03,144 --> 01:24:05,754 Is there a motion, please, to adopt the resolution? 1302 01:24:06,024 --> 01:24:06,535 So moved. 1303 01:24:06,684 --> 01:24:07,464 Is there a second? 1304 01:24:08,514 --> 01:24:08,874 Second. 1305 01:24:09,249 --> 01:24:12,609 Second. Any comment from the audience? Comment from the council? 1306 01:24:14,424 --> 01:24:15,984 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1307 01:24:16,285 --> 01:24:17,514 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1308 01:24:17,604 --> 01:24:17,934 Yes. 1309 01:24:18,204 --> 01:24:19,134 Councilwoman Brice. 1310 01:24:19,299 --> 01:24:19,404 Yes. 1311 01:24:19,974 --> 01:24:20,634 Councilman Brown. 1312 01:24:20,785 --> 01:24:21,054 Yes. 1313 01:24:21,264 --> 01:24:21,879 Mayor Suess. 1314 01:24:22,074 --> 01:24:22,434 Yes. 1315 01:24:22,554 --> 01:24:23,394 Councilman Klausing. 1316 01:24:23,604 --> 01:24:23,844 Yes. 1317 01:24:24,084 --> 01:24:25,044 Councilwoman Robbins. 1318 01:24:25,134 --> 01:24:25,434 Yes. 1319 01:24:25,674 --> 01:24:26,454 Councilman Weller. 1320 01:24:26,664 --> 01:24:26,874 Yes. 1321 01:24:27,054 --> 01:24:27,384 Thank you. 1322 01:24:28,644 --> 01:24:32,964 Item nine is a resolution of the City of Wheaton, Illinois, declaring its official 1323 01:24:33,024 --> 01:24:38,604 intent to reimburse certain capital expenditures from the proceeds of future debt 1324 01:24:38,754 --> 01:24:40,194 issues. Mr. Munsch. 1325 01:24:41,245 --> 01:24:45,323 Mayor, this agenda item relates to the anticipated bond issuance that will fund the 1326 01:24:45,354 --> 01:24:49,614 public safety facility improvements that were included in the 2026 budget. 1327 01:24:50,245 --> 01:24:54,564 Staff intends to proceed with the bond issuance once we get closer to the start of 1328 01:24:54,624 --> 01:24:58,254 construction, which is likely in early 2027. 1329 01:24:58,794 --> 01:25:03,788 That said, there are pre-construction design costs already being incurred, and this 1330 01:25:03,804 --> 01:25:08,094 resolution meets the IRS requirement to allow those costs to be paid before the 1331 01:25:08,124 --> 01:25:13,719 bonds are issued, and be reimbursed later from those bond proceeds, and that can 1332 01:25:13,764 --> 01:25:18,204 occur for up to 18 months. The resolution does not commit the city to issue the 1333 01:25:18,234 --> 01:25:22,584 bonds, and we'll seek approval for the bond issuance itself before proceeding. 1334 01:25:23,214 --> 01:25:25,434 Staff recommends approval of this resolution. 1335 01:25:26,364 --> 01:25:29,364 Thank you. Is there a motion, please, to adopt the resolution? 1336 01:25:29,634 --> 01:25:30,535 So moved. 1337 01:25:30,549 --> 01:25:31,254 Is there a second? 1338 01:25:32,004 --> 01:25:32,364 Second. 1339 01:25:34,134 --> 01:25:36,054 Second to Ms. Robbins. 1340 01:25:37,554 --> 01:25:41,334 Any discussion from the audience? Discussion from the council? 1341 01:25:41,664 --> 01:25:46,944 Just a quick question. A note that we've got $30 million noted as the bond issue, 1342 01:25:47,004 --> 01:25:50,634 and we've got 21 and some change as the anticipated cost. 1343 01:25:50,664 --> 01:25:54,129 Could you just maybe, just for the record, kind of point to the difference between 1344 01:25:54,174 --> 01:25:59,109 that? Is that just giving us room in case by the time we go to actual bids, that 1345 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:03,264 we've got enough room there? Or kind of maybe reconcile that for the layperson. 1346 01:26:08,245 --> 01:26:11,514 I can jump in, and Bob can always correct me if I say anything wrong. 1347 01:26:11,574 --> 01:26:17,245 From a bond issuance standpoint, the 21.2 million was the estimated cost 1348 01:26:17,844 --> 01:26:20,964 last time we did a budget cycle. So, that was last fall. 1349 01:26:21,264 --> 01:26:23,064 So that's where that number comes in. 1350 01:26:23,124 --> 01:26:28,419 In the spring, we had a discussion about where our conceptual design had been, and 1351 01:26:28,464 --> 01:26:30,204 that was around the $30 million. 1352 01:26:30,594 --> 01:26:30,714 Fair enough. 1353 01:26:30,729 --> 01:26:34,044 So, that's how you get the two different numbers there, where 21 was what's in the 1354 01:26:34,074 --> 01:26:37,224 budget, 30 million is closer to the current estimates. 1355 01:26:37,554 --> 01:26:41,019 Thank you. I also think it's worthy of noting that we use the word reimburse. 1356 01:26:41,064 --> 01:26:44,424 The reality to it, for those watching at home, I know there's many of us, 1357 01:26:45,954 --> 01:26:48,714 this is for issuing debt to pay for 1358 01:26:50,484 --> 01:26:54,354 improvements to the police and fire station. No one's getting reimbursed for it. 1359 01:26:54,714 --> 01:26:56,484 We're issuing debt in order to do this. 1360 01:26:57,054 --> 01:27:01,359 So, I think the language could be simplified for those, again, many watching at 1361 01:27:01,404 --> 01:27:01,614 home. 1362 01:27:03,144 --> 01:27:05,184 Okay, thank you. Any other comments? 1363 01:27:06,654 --> 01:27:08,245 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1364 01:27:08,544 --> 01:27:09,384 Councilman Klausing. 1365 01:27:09,594 --> 01:27:09,834 Yes. 1366 01:27:10,134 --> 01:27:11,094 Councilwoman Robbins. 1367 01:27:11,274 --> 01:27:11,484 Yes. 1368 01:27:11,664 --> 01:27:12,339 Councilman Weller. 1369 01:27:12,714 --> 01:27:13,014 Yes. 1370 01:27:13,074 --> 01:27:14,124 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1371 01:27:14,245 --> 01:27:14,934 Yes. 1372 01:27:14,964 --> 01:27:15,834 Councilwoman Brice. 1373 01:27:15,954 --> 01:27:16,434 Yes. 1374 01:27:16,464 --> 01:27:17,184 Councilman Brown. 1375 01:27:17,274 --> 01:27:17,514 Yes. 1376 01:27:17,694 --> 01:27:18,324 Mayor Suess. 1377 01:27:18,834 --> 01:27:19,134 Yes. 1378 01:27:19,285 --> 01:27:19,614 Thank you. 1379 01:27:20,995 --> 01:27:26,154 Item 10 is a resolution authorizing the execution of agreement number 636 with 1380 01:27:26,184 --> 01:27:32,064 Bravo Services, Inc. for janitorial services for city facilities for a total 1381 01:27:32,094 --> 01:27:34,134 amount not to exceed 1382 01:27:34,164 --> 01:27:38,364 $208,669.45. 1383 01:27:41,814 --> 01:27:42,444 Mr. Munsch. 1384 01:27:43,404 --> 01:27:48,745 Thank you. Staff issued a request for proposals to provide janitorial services at 1385 01:27:48,774 --> 01:27:53,019 its 12 city facilities. This includes all the city buildings, as well as the 1386 01:27:53,035 --> 01:27:54,774 parking garages and the train stations. 1387 01:27:55,314 --> 01:28:00,654 We received 12 proposals that were evaluated by staff from several departments, who 1388 01:28:00,684 --> 01:28:05,154 determined that the proposal submitted by Bravo Services was the most advantageous. 1389 01:28:05,634 --> 01:28:11,094 The proposed agreement is for one year at a cost of $208,669, 1390 01:28:11,514 --> 01:28:14,859 with an option to extend for two additional one-year terms. 1391 01:28:15,264 --> 01:28:19,794 The proposed cost is approximately $50,000 less than our current cost for similar 1392 01:28:19,824 --> 01:28:22,344 services, and therefore, it's within budget. 1393 01:28:22,495 --> 01:28:25,404 Staff recommends approval of the agreement. 1394 01:28:25,434 --> 01:28:28,299 Okay, is there a motion, please, to adopt the resolution? 1395 01:28:29,154 --> 01:28:29,724 So moved. 1396 01:28:29,814 --> 01:28:30,745 Is there a second? 1397 01:28:31,704 --> 01:28:32,785 Second. 1398 01:28:32,874 --> 01:28:36,294 Any discussion from the audience? Discussion from the council? 1399 01:28:37,974 --> 01:28:39,564 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1400 01:28:39,714 --> 01:28:40,614 Councilwoman Brice. 1401 01:28:40,734 --> 01:28:41,094 Yes. 1402 01:28:41,154 --> 01:28:41,934 Councilman Brown. 1403 01:28:42,024 --> 01:28:42,264 Yes. 1404 01:28:42,414 --> 01:28:43,013 Mayor Suess. 1405 01:28:43,104 --> 01:28:43,404 Yes. 1406 01:28:43,704 --> 01:28:44,604 Councilman Klausing. 1407 01:28:44,754 --> 01:28:44,964 Yes. 1408 01:28:45,174 --> 01:28:46,074 Councilwoman Robbins. 1409 01:28:46,164 --> 01:28:46,674 Yes. 1410 01:28:46,704 --> 01:28:47,498 Councilman Weller. 1411 01:28:47,874 --> 01:28:48,264 Yes. 1412 01:28:48,294 --> 01:28:49,495 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1413 01:28:49,554 --> 01:28:49,914 Yes. 1414 01:28:50,214 --> 01:28:50,604 Thank you. 1415 01:28:51,714 --> 01:28:57,474 Item 11 is a resolution adopting the City of Wheaton 2026 to 1416 01:28:57,714 --> 01:29:00,624 2028 strategic plan. Mr. Munsch. 1417 01:29:01,614 --> 01:29:05,454 Thank you. Over the course of several planning sessions this summer, the city 1418 01:29:05,574 --> 01:29:08,904 council reviewed proposed updates to the city's strategic plan. 1419 01:29:09,354 --> 01:29:14,724 As we've discussed, this update maintains the existing plan framework, and that 1420 01:29:14,785 --> 01:29:19,029 includes the five strategic priorities, and then it makes some updates to the goals 1421 01:29:19,074 --> 01:29:21,399 and initiatives within those priorities. 1422 01:29:21,834 --> 01:29:25,554 The final draft presented this evening incorporates the feedback that we received 1423 01:29:25,584 --> 01:29:30,204 during those planning sessions, and staff recommends adoption of the plan so that 1424 01:29:30,219 --> 01:29:33,774 it can be incorporated into the 2027 budget planning process. 1425 01:29:35,184 --> 01:29:38,214 Thank you. Is there a motion to adopt the resolution? 1426 01:29:39,324 --> 01:29:39,804 So moved. 1427 01:29:40,089 --> 01:29:40,824 Is there a second? 1428 01:29:41,064 --> 01:29:41,604 Second. 1429 01:29:44,004 --> 01:29:46,524 Second. Go that way. Split it up. 1430 01:29:48,384 --> 01:29:52,674 Any discussion from the audience? Discussion from the council? 1431 01:29:54,535 --> 01:29:56,109 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1432 01:29:56,754 --> 01:29:57,624 Councilman Brown. 1433 01:29:57,684 --> 01:29:58,285 Yes. 1434 01:29:58,344 --> 01:29:58,974 Mayor Suess. 1435 01:29:59,094 --> 01:29:59,274 Yes. 1436 01:29:59,454 --> 01:30:00,414 Councilman Klausing. 1437 01:30:00,504 --> 01:30:00,834 Yes. 1438 01:30:00,894 --> 01:30:01,824 Councilwoman Robbins. 1439 01:30:01,914 --> 01:30:02,124 Yes. 1440 01:30:02,544 --> 01:30:03,248 Councilman Weller. 1441 01:30:03,474 --> 01:30:04,164 Yes. 1442 01:30:04,194 --> 01:30:05,274 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1443 01:30:05,364 --> 01:30:05,724 Yes. 1444 01:30:05,844 --> 01:30:06,804 Councilwoman Brice. 1445 01:30:06,954 --> 01:30:07,254 Yes. 1446 01:30:07,344 --> 01:30:07,704 Thank you. 1447 01:30:09,654 --> 01:30:13,554 Item nine is council comment. Any council comment this evening? 1448 01:30:14,094 --> 01:30:17,814 I'll make a quick comment. Many, many of us were there tonight at the Wheaton 1449 01:30:17,874 --> 01:30:22,854 Public Library. Lovely ribbon cutting event celebrating the new outside space, the 1450 01:30:22,884 --> 01:30:27,864 plaza. And a lot of people spoke to this there as well, that it's just a good 1451 01:30:27,894 --> 01:30:33,114 collaboration between the Wheaton Public Library board and staff, city council, 1452 01:30:33,294 --> 01:30:38,799 city staff, state reps, township leaders, Congresswoman Delia Ramirez, and 1453 01:30:38,844 --> 01:30:41,664 Congressman Sean Casten, and it was just nice 1454 01:30:42,864 --> 01:30:46,044 weather, and then there was a concert afterwards, so it's a good time. 1455 01:30:47,304 --> 01:30:48,924 Thank you. Any other comments? 1456 01:30:49,495 --> 01:30:53,964 I just want to also just say thanks to the Wheaton PD, Chief Yogur, for 1457 01:30:55,314 --> 01:30:59,079 coming to Franklin and doing this lovely little tour of the process of what's going 1458 01:30:59,124 --> 01:31:04,974 on in our buildings to check on safety and just going, again, above and beyond to 1459 01:31:05,364 --> 01:31:07,254 look out for our community. And 1460 01:31:08,694 --> 01:31:13,434 connecting that to Erica Nelson's comments about feeling reassured, and it's 1461 01:31:13,495 --> 01:31:17,514 reassuring knowing that the Wheaton Police Department works well with our school 1462 01:31:17,544 --> 01:31:18,984 district as well to keep us safe. 1463 01:31:20,469 --> 01:31:20,995 Thank you. 1464 01:31:23,604 --> 01:31:27,114 Let us then move on to item 10, approval of bills. 1465 01:31:27,774 --> 01:31:31,959 I move approval of warrant number 927 in the amount of 1466 01:31:31,959 --> 01:31:38,033 $3,069,100.07. 1467 01:31:38,334 --> 01:31:39,624 Thank you. Is there a second? 1468 01:31:39,864 --> 01:31:40,689 Second. 1469 01:31:40,689 --> 01:31:42,594 Second. Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1470 01:31:42,834 --> 01:31:44,274 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1471 01:31:44,394 --> 01:31:44,754 Yes. 1472 01:31:44,844 --> 01:31:45,745 Councilwoman Brice. 1473 01:31:45,894 --> 01:31:46,134 Yes. 1474 01:31:46,224 --> 01:31:46,914 Councilman Brown. 1475 01:31:47,064 --> 01:31:47,304 Yes. 1476 01:31:47,454 --> 01:31:48,054 Mayor Suess. 1477 01:31:48,204 --> 01:31:48,533 Yes. 1478 01:31:48,624 --> 01:31:49,554 Councilman Klausing. 1479 01:31:49,704 --> 01:31:49,854 Yes. 1480 01:31:50,124 --> 01:31:51,024 Councilwoman Robbins. 1481 01:31:51,144 --> 01:31:51,384 Yes. 1482 01:31:51,564 --> 01:31:52,285 Councilman Weller. 1483 01:31:52,674 --> 01:31:52,914 Yes. 1484 01:31:53,004 --> 01:31:53,364 Thank you. 1485 01:31:54,594 --> 01:31:58,854 Item 11 is an adjournment. Is there a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting? 1486 01:31:59,785 --> 01:32:00,384 So moved. 1487 01:32:00,774 --> 01:32:02,064 Thank you. Is there a second? 1488 01:32:02,814 --> 01:32:03,474 Second. 1489 01:32:03,594 --> 01:32:05,245 Andrea, could you call the roll, please? 1490 01:32:05,634 --> 01:32:06,714 Councilwoman Brice. 1491 01:32:06,774 --> 01:32:07,104 Yes. 1492 01:32:07,285 --> 01:32:08,094 Councilman Brown. 1493 01:32:08,574 --> 01:32:08,904 Yes. 1494 01:32:08,995 --> 01:32:09,594 Mayor Suess. 1495 01:32:09,745 --> 01:32:09,910 Yes. 1496 01:32:10,464 --> 01:32:11,349 Councilman Klausing. 1497 01:32:11,664 --> 01:32:12,174 Yes. 1498 01:32:12,234 --> 01:32:13,224 Councilwoman Robbins. 1499 01:32:13,495 --> 01:32:13,854 Yes. 1500 01:32:14,184 --> 01:32:14,904 Councilman Weller. 1501 01:32:14,964 --> 01:32:15,489 Can we do that? 1502 01:32:18,804 --> 01:32:19,344 The roll, yes. 1503 01:32:20,785 --> 01:32:22,044 Councilwoman Bray Parker. 1504 01:32:22,164 --> 01:32:24,535 Yes, and thank you for coming to my birthday party. 1505 01:32:28,854 --> 01:32:30,204 It seems like- 1506 01:32:30,384 --> 01:32:31,539 No, that's her birthday party 1507 01:32:31,539 --> 01:32:34,283 ... it seems like it might have been delayed a little bit. 1508 01:32:36,054 --> 01:32:38,454 But anyway, tonight's meeting's adjourned. 1509 01:32:38,514 --> 01:32:38,979 Thank you