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America and to the republic it stands
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liberty and justice for all. If you will
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Lord we thank you for this day and all
[0:19] the blessings you give us this meeting
and guiding decisions made. We thank you
[0:23] so much for your mercy, your grace and
your love. Jesus name I ask it. Thank
[0:27] you.
[0:44] It is uh 5:00 p.m. We will call the
meeting to order.
[0:49] We'll start off the roll call. District
one here.
[0:53] » District two here.
>> District three here.
[0:56] » District four here. All
>> present.
[1:00] Approve on the nice agenda. I'll make a
motion. Second motion by Wayne, second
[1:06] by Tom. Any discussion?
All in favor?
[1:10] » I posted
opposed.
[1:16] Approval of the minutes for the August
25th, 2026 meeting.
[1:22] » Motion.
Second. Motion made by Dane. Second by
[1:27] Wayne. Any discussion?
All in favor?
[1:32] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[1:35] None opposed.
[1:39] We will now open the uh pull up the
constituent comments. We've had uh three
[1:45] signed to speak this evening. Miss
George Gish.
[1:49] » You don't know who that is. Judy.
>> Is that Judy? Did he? I never seen any
[1:53] real name. Uhoh.
[2:06] » I'm gonna make y'all come around here.
Look at me.
[2:13] » What are you going to stop?
>> I don't know yet. You just have to wait
[2:16] and see.
[2:22] » I know.
Um,
[2:27] » you all know why we're here. I just want
to play something for you.
[2:31] » Covering the data center debate in Metro
Detroit for nearly a year now, but there
[2:35] are still few local examples of what
it's like when they're up and running.
[2:39] One of the most common areas of concern
I hear about is the noise that they
[2:43] could admit. But one community in
southwestern Michigan has been
[2:47] experiencing the reality of a data
center next door for a couple of years
[2:51] now. and they say that sound has changed
their lives.
[2:58] » What would you say to people who've
never experienced this for themselves?
[3:01] » So, it's like someone set up a vacuum
like in your living room and the vacuum
[3:06] is just it that thing needs to be
cleaned. Like it is the filter is
[3:09] clogged up so it's a high pitch whining
and they just left it on and walked out.
[3:16] You've seen movies and stuff where they
have somebody in a cell torture with a
[3:23] sound [clears throat] and that's
basically what it is.
[3:29] Venuela and Marjorie Billy Finn are
neighbors who all live directly across
[3:33] the street from a data center in Dwajek,
Michigan. The data center is known by
[3:38] residents as Hyperscale Data. It is
owned by Alliance Cloud Services LLC, a
[3:44] company based in Las Vegas, Nevada.
They tell me that for the past couple of
[3:49] years, it has been emitting a
high-pitched sound 24 hours a day, 7
[3:54] days a week. But it wasn't always like
this. Archery tells me the house has
[3:59] been in her family for nearly 100 years.
>> I love this house because it has so much
[4:04] feel of my past. All our friends are
here. all our support systems here.
[4:09] » They explained to me that life on their
dead end street avenue was mostly quiet
[4:14] and peaceful even though for decades
there had always been an industrial
[4:18] building across the street behind a row
of white trees. They say in 2018 things
[4:24] began to change drastically. The trees
came out, a looping dock went in, and
[4:29] around 2021 a cryptocurrency mining
operation began. In 2024, they say the
[4:36] noise from the building began around the
clock.
[4:41] » How would you characterize life on your
street before the data center and after?
[4:47] As different as night and day to me,
even if it's cooler out, we can't open
[4:51] our windows like we used to.
It's just amazing how much has changed
[4:58] our life. In March, Dwax city leaders
adopted the first ever industrial noise
[5:03] ordinance for the city. It sets a
daytime decel limit of 65 and a
[5:08] nighttime limit of 55. According to the
city manager, they find Hypers scale
[5:13] data for violating the ordinance. Hypers
scale is challenging the city's readings
[5:18] and methodology. For months, Hypers
scale data has been touting plans for
[5:23] expansion despite city leaders saying
they were left in the dark and that no
[5:27] expansion permits had been submitted.
Last week, at the invitation of Dwajek's
[5:32] mayor, the CEO of Hypers Scale Data,
Lillian Horn, spoke directly to city
[5:37] residents at a special council meeting.
Horn explained that the company plans to
[5:42] invest $100 million to expand AI
computing and advanced robotics at the
[5:47] facility and pivot away from
cryptocurrency mining. He also said they
[5:52] would make multiple efforts to reduce
sound levels and for residents of Rup
[5:56] Avenue.
>> If they still aren't happy and feeling
[6:00] their home is enjoyable, then we'll buy
their property from them.
[6:05] » Dozens of residents spoke out
passionately at the meeting. None in
[6:10] support of hypers scale. Why didn't you
consider the residents when the loud the
[6:13] noise continued to get louder and louder
and louder?
[6:23] » I wanted to know more about what the
science says when it comes to data
[6:26] center sound. So I reached out to Rick
Nitel, professor of environmental health
[6:31] sciences at the University of Michigan.
When it comes to these data centers
[6:35] being built all around our area and
around the country, are you concerned
[6:38] when it comes to sound?
>> I am. This is kind of an unprecedented
[6:43] new noise source that's being introduced
into a lot of communities. We now know
[6:47] pretty definitively that noise in
communities at high enough levels is
[6:51] associated with things like high blood
pressure, heart attacks, stroke. Lindy
[6:56] Valenuela explained to me why she's now
a plaintiff in [clears throat] a
[7:00] firstofits-kind class action lawsuit
over allegations of excessive noise from
[7:05] the data center. The fan noise just
exceeds such a level to where we can't
[7:10] even enjoy being outside for more than a
few minutes without either of us getting
[7:13] a headache.
>> She's currently pregnant and has a
[7:16] 17-month-old boy.
>> His nursery is on the side of the house
[7:20] that faces the data center. When we're
putting him down for bed at night, you
[7:24] can hear the fans coming in through the
window. You can hear it in his crib. And
[7:29] that just that worries me.
>> Laura Sheets is a partner at Little
[7:32] Sheets and Lindy's attorney in the case.
>> They don't have the right to cause a
[7:38] substantial interference with your use
and enjoyment of your property. This
[7:41] data center is their neighbor. Um
whether they're happy about that or not.
[7:45] But
>> so my comments
[7:50] are, have you all ever listened to a
video to hear how loud the data sends
[7:55] are? You have. Have you?
>> Have you?
[7:59] » No.
>> Have you, Travis?
[8:02] » Okay. So, you know, we're all natives.
We look out for each other. You all
[8:09] represent us. So, since we don't have
planning and zoning, and you all have
[8:13] heard this a thousand times, but if you
don't do something, this can sneak right
[8:18] in your back door. If you're looking for
money, do get a slaughter house, you
[8:23] know, in a packaging plant, you know,
call the, you know, the cattleman's
[8:27] association, call somebody to, you know,
if you, if you're looking for money in
[8:31] the county, you know, to start a
business, but this is not a business.
[8:35] This is annoyance. Who would want to
have to sell their farm after they've
[8:39] owned it for a hundred years? Any of you
all, you all own land? I know you own
[8:43] land. Who would want to have to do that?
This is not like ordering a meal and my
[8:49] steak's not done. And you send it back
to the chef and they try to fix it, send
[8:53] it back to you. You can't send this
back. It's there. It's there to stay
[8:58] until you put something in place to slow
this down so more research can be done.
[9:04] So once this is out of the box and it's
here, it is here. So I'm ask all of you
[9:10] all magistrates to please get together
try to form a plan if it's a mortorium
[9:18] which you know anything we've talked
about mortoriums are the best thing to
[9:22] start. You know that gives you a little
time to do a little more research
[9:27] because nobody and and if they want to
buy your Oh yeah, they'll buy your
[9:30] property. Yeah. But at what value? And
then where you going to go? going to
[9:33] leave your family, your friends, your
grandchildren, you know. Well, I don't
[9:38] think that's right. And I don't and I
hope none of you all think that's right
[9:42] to to put people in that position. So, I
want you to think long and hard about
[9:46] trying to do a mortorium against this to
at least give us time. Okay.
[9:52] » Thank you, D.
>> Thank you,
[9:58] Miss Susan.
[10:04] Hi you all. Um my name is Suzanne Ro and
um I noticed that a lot of the things
[10:10] that I'm going to say this evening have
already been said, but I'm really hoping
[10:14] that that kind of reiterates how
important it is to the community. Um I
[10:19] moved to Owen County in 2019 and I chose
to move here. Um I'm a homeowner. I'm a
[10:27] taxpayer and I'm one of the members of a
newly organized group of community
[10:33] members that are concerned about data
centers and our concerns are growing and
[10:39] our numbers are growing.
It was on July the 11th that Glenn Mans
[10:45] asked for a moratorum on the development
of data centers. It's been two months
[10:50] since that meeting. I am once again
asking you to pass a 12month moratorum
[10:58] until we can learn more about these
negative quality of life issues such as
[11:05] noise and light pollution and rising
utility cost for residents.
[11:12] I am asking you to please protect your
constituents from pie in the sky
[11:19] promises of riches. It is my firm belief
that there is a lack transparency across
[11:27] the country and Kentucky about the
development of these data centers for a
[11:32] reason. As the old adage goes, if it
sounds too good to be true, it probably
[11:39] is.
Let's learn more before making an
[11:44] irreversible mistake. Thanks.
>> Thank you, Mr. Thank you,
[11:50] [clears throat]
Mr. Lauren.
[11:57] » My name is Lauren Ke. I've lived here
for 30 years. I'll do like me here. I'll
[12:02] introduce myself. I work with Community
Action,
[12:06] a lot of different organizations. I love
my community.
[12:10] And I did a Google survey that I shared
with Todd, but I put it back out again
[12:17] and I had se I had 73 responses. So
based on the surveillary responses in
[12:24] this spreadsheet, there's a summary of
73 total responses regarding the data
[12:29] proposed data center in Owen County. The
overall set in the vast majority of
[12:33] responders are will meet against the
project. Remember, it's only 73. It's
[12:38] only a little tiny screenshot of how
people feel, but it and it was just
[12:44] shared on Facebook. So, uh 64 of the 73
said no of being in favor of a data
[12:51] center being built. Only five
respondents responded yes, while the
[12:56] remaining said maybe. And they need more
information. And I think we all need
[13:00] more information.
The primary concerns uh respondents
[13:05] showed high levels of concern across all
environmental and infrastructural
[13:09] impact.
67 of them was worried about the raising
[13:13] their electric bill. 63 feared power
outages a strain on the local grid. 63
[13:19] of the 73
concerned about this facility consuming
[13:24] large quantities of water or affecting
if they had wellwaters. I don't know how
[13:28] many people in Owen County have
wellwaters, but I'm from the mountains
[13:32] and the people down there in the
mountains in the coal fields that have
[13:35] whales. Like my aunt has a whale and I
think she her and her daughter have
[13:39] lupus and my opinion is when you're
drilling down through and there's coal
[13:43] mines and they leave their equipment in
coal mine. I would say part of their
[13:48] problem is maybe from that
and and a lot of things are you know can
[13:54] be about. So back to this, the quality
of life 61s feel that a large industrial
[14:00] warehouse conflicts with the Owen County
farmland and rural way of life. 59 are
[14:06] concerned about the constant humming and
the bright security light. When asked
[14:11] about the claims of high paying job tech
jobs versus the reality of few low
[14:16] permanent jobs, 46 were concerned
indicating spectacus as a belief that
[14:21] the jobs will be few and 15 responded
maybe and 12 responded no. And local
[14:29] government and community action not this
but community action not me.
[14:34] There is a strong demand for
transparency of the 68 responses stating
[14:40] they would be upset if a local official
discussed or signed agreements behind
[14:44] closed doors without public input. 54
respondents said they would sign a
[14:50] petition, attend a physical court
meeting or join a group to demand a
[14:55] mtorium. Might have said that wrong. So
planning and zoning and and this
[15:01] surprised me. So opinions on
implementing planning and zoning 32 said
[15:07] yes, 23 said maybe and only 18 said no.
So maybe that's something we can explore
[15:15] like to have planning and zonings like
maybe the all those people who are just
[15:20] against it. Maybe it would work. And
overall, the data paints a picture of a
[15:26] community that is highly concerned about
the infrastructure, environmental, and
[15:30] cultural impacts of the data of a data
center and are willing to take civic
[15:34] action to oppose it. And I also would
like to say I work at Itron. Hosea
[15:41] Todd Hosea owns the building. Todd Hosea
has signed a non-disclosure agreement
[15:47] and this is from a supervisor of mine.
And if he is they have are the buyers
[15:52] are approaching the state for what did I
say it was incentives
[15:58] » incentives
>> for state incentives. So, they're
[16:01] approaching, I don't know what they're
putting, of course, but they're
[16:04] approaching the state for incentives,
whatever they are. And Todd Hosea told
[16:11] one of my supervisors that he don't
think it's going to pass, but Todd Hosea
[16:15] is a a good salesman. So, I mean, I
don't know. And this all happened. I've
[16:19] been out of work. I'm on medical leave
from work, but this happened Thursday
[16:24] while I was out. So, I mean, something
is going on. I don't know what's going
[16:28] on, but I mean, I just care about our
families. I care about our children. I
[16:34] care about our future. I know. Do y'all
all have grandchildren?
[16:39] You know, I mean, I just want want
things to be good for us. And I know
[16:44] that we ain't got a lot, but we got to
we got to be picky about what we do
[16:48] have. And that's just my opinion. But
I appreciate.
[16:54] » Thank you. Thank you.
[17:02] Thank you everyone. Next we have uh this
group confront we came and met with the
[17:07] uh chamber here locally and they asked
if they could come and speak and it's
[17:12] the resource environmental solutions res
and I invite them to do their
[17:19] please.
[17:22] [clears throat]
Well, good afternoon, good evening,
[17:25] gentlemen. It sounds like we uh we came
to the right meeting because we've got
[17:29] some discussions on data centers, which
is great. Um, we're actually here, my
[17:34] name is Indicott Parks. I'm a
professional wetland scientist by
[17:37] lensure, but I run our client solutions
group in the in our region here, which
[17:42] can cover covers Kentucky, Virginia, and
Maryland, DC, and Delaware for our
[17:46] company. Uh but we're actually here to
present to you guys tonight uh we're the
[17:51] nation's largest uh nature-based
solutions company. Uh so all things
[17:56] green infrastructure, if you think
streams, wetlands, flood planes, that's
[17:59] what we do. Um, so we're here actually
to speak a little bit to what the
[18:04] company does as a whole, but then also
uh the impacts that data centers could
[18:09] have on the the county and the community
and how we can combat that and bring
[18:15] some extra green incentives to projects
or capital that may end up being
[18:20] invested in the county. So that's
myself. I'll let Neil introduce himself
[18:24] real quick.
>> I'm Neil Bethles. I'm also a
[18:26] professional weapon scientist. I'm a
state business manager here in uh in
[18:31] Kentucky, offices in Louisville, and we
also have an office in Frankfurt County
[18:36] local uh residents.
>> Yeah. So, again, it sounds like there's
[18:41] plenty of community discussion going on
around data centers, which I think is
[18:44] great. Uh we're we've talked to can say
in upwards of eight to 10 counties
[18:50] throughout Kentucky in the past month
and a half and this conversation has
[18:55] come up almost every single time. Uh
which I think is good. We all need to
[18:59] get informed. We all need to be aware of
what's coming and understand the pros,
[19:03] the cons, and a lot of the uh I think
we're all trying to get educated at the
[19:08] same time. So coming from our stance
specifically, we've been asked by the
[19:14] community side of things, the public, so
like your economic development side of
[19:18] things who are approaching these and
trying to figure out how to ride this
[19:22] fine line of wanting to see growth and
and significant investment in the
[19:26] community versus how to do it reasonably
as well as from the private sector on
[19:32] the data center side of things. So three
different approaches here. We're seeing
[19:37] significant capital coming from the data
center side a lot. It's it's on the
[19:42] proactive and the reactive side. So
we've seen them where they come to a
[19:47] community whether it's been behind
closed doors, NDA, stuff like that. It
[19:51] gets out public saying, "Hey, this is
what we want to do." And then we see
[19:54] significant push back. We've also seen
quite the opposite now where these
[19:59] companies are learning, hey, we can't
just do all this stuff behind closed
[20:03] doors and expect a good outcome and and
no uh and no backlash when things go
[20:08] public. Um so we're seeing it from both
sides. Again, from our point of view,
[20:14] we're trying to provide ecological
uplift throughout any kind of
[20:18] development that happens. So we do
restoration, stream and wetland
[20:22] restoration, onetoone in kind
mitigation, flood plane restoration. Um,
[20:28] and so when these county when these com
these businesses come to town and take
[20:32] impacts, let's say they take impacts on
a farm or whatnot, we often set up banks
[20:38] or whatnot to offset the wetland and
stream impacts that they may have. So
[20:43] again, that ecosystem uplift happens. Uh
but again tonight talking about
[20:49] specifically what you guys can do to
position yourselves as a community for
[20:55] these data centers coming to town. There
is uh significant conversations in
[21:01] capital investment that these folks can
bring to see not only gray
[21:05] infrastructure whether it be public
library, swimming pools, stuff like
[21:09] that, but my side of the world, the
green side of seeing, hey, like
[21:13] significant stream restoration or flood
plane restoration to help with flooding,
[21:19] whether it's in town, out of town,
however it may be, even at from a water
[21:23] shale, a water shed scale. Sorry guys.
All the way down to like a specific
[21:29] stream. Um so the types of projects that
we can do u there's different things
[21:36] from volutric water. So I know we had
discussions about the the water usage of
[21:41] these data centers and and not really
again not knowing what's what's
[21:45] happening whether they're greenwashing
stuff like that. It's just we're
[21:48] learning a lot as we go. And I think
these data centers are also getting keep
[21:52] me check on time too, but um we're also
learning more that these data centers
[21:57] are are actually figuring out how to use
a lot less water andor completely
[22:02] self-contained. There's also new
technology going into like optical
[22:06] chips, stuff that's way over my head uh
to reduce the heat, therefore using less
[22:11] water, yada yada yada. But all in all,
at the end of it, they're still bringing
[22:16] capital to communities to see projects
that are beneficial. So RES can do again
[22:24] like we were talking about, but specific
if it's educational pieces, parks,
[22:29] pollinator gardens, things of that
nature, we've seen those uh be
[22:33] successful. So again, you're you're
helping the the the community on you
[22:39] guys are surrounded by natural
resources. is I'm an outdoorsman, a
[22:41] conservationist by heart. So like I care
about it as well. So seeing the next
[22:45] generation have the ability to learn and
be educated through those programs,
[22:50] options like that. Um I've even seen
data centers come to a site to do a
[22:57] restoration project. Let's say
something does happen here and then
[23:01] we're able to restore an off-site stream
on a local farm or whatnot. There's even
[23:05] been instances, I think, of equipment
being worked into the deal to help that
[23:10] farmer then maintain what whatever it
is, whether it's cattle fencing or or
[23:15] stuff like that to reduce sediment um
down street. So,
[23:19] » anything you want to add?
>> I was just going to mention a specific
[23:23] project we work on. It's called
Richard's uh property mitigation bank.
[23:26] It's in Scott County, just over the way.
Um if it's on 75 acres, it's owned by
[23:32] the Nature Conservancy. It's near city
and um we basically restored Eagle Creek
[23:38] whed about 15,000 uh linear feet of
stream that was uh impacted from you
[23:45] know past agricultural channelization
and riparian port corridor de
[23:49] deforestation
um and grazing and things like that. So
[23:53] uh that's what resz did. We basically
came in and restored 15,045 linear feet
[23:57] of degraded headwater intermittent and
ephemeral streams and um and that helped
[24:04] um and and we repaired the riparian
coral planted trees and things like that
[24:08] along there which helped out like the uh
Indiana bat and the northern longard bat
[24:13] habitat and there was also a significant
amount of muscles I think about like 20
[24:17] muscles in the in the stream down
through there and obviously the uh
[24:20] protection of the area and erosion
protection definitely help. So that's
[24:25] kind of a specific project that we
worked on. You're right.
[24:27] » Yes. So again, RES's stance I think is
resource environmental solutions re our
[24:32] stance is neither here nor there. We
just want to see uh as development
[24:37] happens the mitigation and the
restoration happen at the same time in a
[24:42] beneficial and positive way. So we stand
>> with any industry right not necessarily
[24:47] data center
>> correct completely across industrial
[24:50] commercial we hit it all. Just again, I
think that the hyper the data center
[24:54] hyperscaler talk is is something that's
hitting home for you guys right now in
[24:58] regards to growth. Again, if we were in
a metropolitan area, we might be talking
[25:02] about commercial real estate or
industrial, even higher education,
[25:06] things like that. It all it all comes
down to the give and the take. If you're
[25:11] going to take wetlands and streams,
we're here to help make sure that those
[25:14] are replaced and in a functioning way.
[25:20] that again if we can be of any answer
like questions or anything like that in
[25:25] ter in regards to historical what we've
seen what would what would it look like
[25:29] here in the future we just want to help
you guys position yourselves whatever
[25:34] way you guys end up swinging and moving
forward um that if you guys choose to
[25:40] entertain the option of someone coming
to town like a data center andor any
[25:44] other large industrial commercial
anything like that uh rez is here to
[25:50] help offset that that and and provide
significant ecological uplift because
[25:56] again I think we all care about the
streams that are in our backyard or the
[25:59] parks that our kids play at. Um so
the give and the take. So but we wanted
[26:06] to make sure that you guys know that
we're here as well as everyone in the
[26:09] room as well um to help out with that
and if we can answer any questions what
[26:14] we're seeing across the region. Rez
works on a nationwide scale. Uh and
[26:18] again we're we're not only hitting the
the hyperscaler data centers throughout
[26:23] the country but also other large uh
development projects that again need
[26:28] mitigation based on federal and state
laws. Sorry.
[26:32] » Can I ask a question? Like like if
something does come like you know maybe
[26:37] y'all can't do anything about it like if
it's in
[26:41] is that something that the city or y'all
or somebody like who would pay you who
[26:47] would help help make sure those laws and
everything's that they just don't come
[26:52] and just sweep everything under the rug.
Does that
[26:54] » that direct me?
>> Yeah, that makes any sense. I
[26:58] » it does completely. who who's providing
capital.
[27:01] » Yeah.
>> And making sure that nothing's getting
[27:02] swept under the rug. So, I think am I
allowed to answer this right now?
[27:07] » Yeah. Well, we're going to Yes. But if
you give me just a second, what I'd like
[27:11] to do is finish out the meeting. Okay.
>> And then we will open it up. That's how
[27:14] we've done in the past. That way it's
the meetings continue, you know, through
[27:17] and then we when we adjourn the meeting,
um that way we can actually set and we
[27:22] can all sit here all night long. That'd
be great. But you know,
[27:25] » we'll be here after
>> because I want I want everybody to have
[27:27] the opportunity to to speak to these
guys if we can. Um, so y'all have any
[27:31] questions?
>> Do you have a card with some context?
[27:34] » Yes, sir. We have a full wrap sheet on
capabilities as well as cards for any
[27:38] kind of follow-up questions you guys
have. Again, here to help position you
[27:42] guys and educate you guys on what a
green solution to a project could look
[27:47] like. Okay. Cool. Thank you. Thanks so
much. Thank you. Thank you.
[27:58] All right, moving on to uh acceptance of
reports. We have the EMA report and the
[28:02] general reports. Make that motion,
judge.
[28:07] Motion made by Travis, second by Dane.
Any discussion?
[28:12] All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[28:15] None opposed.
[28:20] Moving on to action items.
Make a motion to untable the Kentucky
[28:25] Transportation District 6 discretionary
funds. Discussion. Motion.
[28:30] Second.
>> Motion made by Tom. Second by Wayne. All
[28:35] in favor? I. Any opposed?
Opposed.
[28:41] This time I would ask if transportation
cabinet could speak on the discretionary
[28:46] codes in which we're presenting.
So if anyone doesn't know who I am, I'm
[28:52] Kim Guard. I work for highways. I work
here in Owen County. I have Caroline
[28:57] County counties. Um and I'm here tonight
to speak specifically about ro secondary
[29:02] roles. Um,
so our last meeting we did program that
[29:09] me and my branch manager and the chief
all agreed on well for about 1:30 today
[29:16] my branch manager go and said we need to
take that draw. So I guess there's a
[29:21] battle brewing over the
money that the legislators got say the
[29:28] guy.
I can give you my opinion on that money,
[29:33] but um yeah, so if you want I'm not
staying at this meeting tonight. I'm not
[29:38] staying after, but I can come to your
office and speak to you if you like. So
[29:42] you can share that information. So um
thinking that Hills Road over there is
[29:48] Sher's Road,
which is still in my opinion valuable
[29:54] project. Anyway, um that leaves the
three-year-old SW Valley, which has
[30:00] already been through 11. Um
they may be going to pay that this year
[30:07] pretty soon. I'm not sure. Uh but that
would move that Eden shale up next about
[30:12] 8:25.
Without your flex monies, um I I'll get
[30:19] $100,000 or so over budget. Um, and if
you choose to keep your flex monies, I'm
[30:26] still probably going to send that
project to a letting to see what
[30:29] happens, to see where we are and see if
I can get additional funds
[30:36] to cover. I don't know that's going to
happen. Um,
[30:41] if you give me the money back, I for
sure can get it done because we're just
[30:44] $15,000 store. I'm pretty sure my
estimate is enough that that would that
[30:51] would work. And then definitely the stir
ridge 3102 from the bridge to challenge
[30:58] wheels that next
option. So
[31:04] the decisions that that you need to make
some
[31:08] come back in a few weeks that um is so
if you choose to keep them
[31:16] to keep them if you choose to give them
back and give them back. So, that's
[31:21] that's all I need from you guys tonight.
But I will tell you that we did we did
[31:27] some
patching on 325 last week and they did
[31:32] some patching on
Squaresville Road which
[31:38] um they did the opposite end that I had
asked them to do while
[31:43] » Wow. That's I was all I thought I was on
my vacation. Um I'm sorry I went 22 then
[31:52] I did not. So we're going to do some
more
[31:55] but I don't know how much more we can do
because the money is crazy budget are
[32:01] terrible. So um I do all I can do. I
give you 110%
[32:08] um even though it may not look like it.
do um trying to get the most I can get
[32:15] for each of the three counties.
I try to be fair to all I live in but I
[32:21] try to be fair
to everyone.
[32:28] I definitely appreciate your time and
honest. I I just can't understand why
[32:34] I guess when roads are in more more need
than than other roads that they get
[32:40] scooped over.
>> Which road?
[32:42] » Well, Squaresville, you can't convince
me that Squaresville isn't in worse
[32:47] shape.
>> So, here's the deal on Squidersville 345
[32:51] 1883.
[32:56] Okay. So in
January, March, somewhere in there, the
[33:02] legislators, Miss Rag
said, I secured funding for these roles.
[33:09] Those go off my list. We have a very
small amount. Even if I was going to
[33:14] expire, right now we only $400,000. It's
850,000 to pay. We can get half of it
[33:21] done and tear the other half up next
year. the P part we just paid would tear
[33:27] up to pay the other one.
>> But what I guess my question is if we
[33:30] did the the part that you had s
suggested from the 22 side.
[33:35] » Yeah.
>> And then got half of it which is
[33:39] » what is in the most need I think we all
would all agree on.
[33:42] » Oh yeah.
>> And then we came from the other side.
[33:45] » I can't make them come the other way.
>> Okay. Okay. And that's
[33:50] right. I mean, if if it come to but if
Mangle gets it, they're coming up,
[33:55] » right?
>> Yeah. So, but when when they sent their
[33:59] phones and it's in the sixure plan, you
can see it exactly and say they're going
[34:04] to do them.
>> I can't get to that.
[34:09] » And I like I said,
>> I can get you. I think they're damn,
[34:14] » but I can't get it.
But here's the deal. They like the
[34:19] email. It's for federal aid grants.
That's the money they got. They got
[34:23] federal money.
>> So when an elected official says, "I
[34:28] secured some money to do these rural
second arrows." They're not a federal.
[34:32] » So we can't use it tonight.
>> But she's not going to tell you that.
[34:37] » No, she you're right. I agree.
>> So I'm the one that stands up and gets
[34:42] the heat from everybody.
>> And like I said, I appreciate your time.
[34:45] Yeah.
>> Well, dude, I don't I got
[34:48] I got fixed in I'm going to walk out
that door. I don't care what anybody
[34:55] that's just the way it is. But I give
you every day. I'll promise you that.
[34:58] » I believe that. Yeah. So, but when when
they say they have the money to do it,
[35:05] then I'm not going to spend what little
bit of land we have to try to do those
[35:11] because
on the six-year plan, it says they're
[35:15] going to do them.
>> Yeah. And you had Fair View last year at
[35:19] the top business and then they said that
they got that off a little bit, which I
[35:25] understand.
>> Yeah. It shows we have such this budget
[35:28] if your budget I told you this last time
is akin to what the 2011
[35:35] budget was.
Yeah. Okay. 15 years ago, this is I know
[35:41] we had a standard
asphalt 15 years ago was $45 a ton.
[35:48] Today it's $120 a ton.
So, man, we're we're fighting out here
[35:56] and I I've said it for the last seven or
eight years.
[36:01] We're never going to catch up. We're
we're we're beyond catching up. Only 12
[36:06] second.
[36:12] » Can I ask a question in just a second?
Any any other question from the floor?
[36:17] Thank you.
[36:25] So, there's going to be a a motion on
this and it's going to be either there's
[36:30] three options. Uh, keep the flex bones,
return the flex funds, or take it until
[36:35] next meeting.
And that's the one that we most we've
[36:39] accepted.
[36:58] It seems like everybody's scared to say
something. So, I'll make a motion to
[37:01] keep the flex.
>> Motion made to keep the flex. Travis
[37:06] Ferro.
[37:13] Second by Dane. Any discussion?
>> All in favor?
[37:22] » I don't know. Looks like with them
knocking Alice off, which we didn't
[37:26] really need that done, we can get on
down this list.
[37:32] You know, getting needing shale done
would would be a blessing.
[37:37] and maybe a little Stewart bridge
if we keep the
[37:43] 91,000.
What are we going to do?
[37:48] Where it go? What are we doing?
[37:54] » They're asking me. We'll be using county
roads. It' be used on county roads.
[37:59] Yeah. For resurfacing or
>> I know there's a lot of water projects.
[38:03] » There is. There's a lot of little water
projects going on. separate service be
[38:08] used for that
[38:13] » which all around you in the county
[38:20] just need something done. It's not in my
district but it's a mandatory
[38:25] I agree.
>> I just thought we'd get it done. Maybe
[38:31] that's all I got.
[38:38] Is that motion on the table for now?
>> I still make a motion.
[38:44] » All right.
>> So, and thank we can take a vote.
[38:47] » All right. Let's take a vote.
>> I'm in favor. I
[38:51] » All in favor?
[38:56] » All opposed?
Hey.
[39:10] the uh discretionary funding right now,
the flex funding we have in the pool is
[39:15] roughly um without having the number
directly in front of me. I get one out,
[39:20] but it's probably right around 500,000
is what's in that poll right now to be
[39:24] used for second row county res. Um, I
don't know that the 91,000 is going to
[39:31] change that. Um, as far as the use of it
without getting eaten shell done, which
[39:36] I think is very important. Every road is
in horrible condition. So, uh, my vote
[39:40] is going to be to uh, get the funding
back and focus on getting
[39:47] you know, we need another motion.
>> What?
[39:53] » The motion is to keep the flex.
And you got two for two.
[39:57] » Yes, that's what I'm doing. That's what
Yes. Yes, that's what I was doing. Thank
[40:00] you. Thank you. So, that that is uh my
vote is going to be um as you know.
[40:08] So,
motion not period.
[40:13] Now, if somebody wants to make a motion
again,
[40:16] » return motion.
>> I'll make a motion to
[40:24] » keep
[40:28] flex.
>> I second.
[40:31] » Motion made by to return the flex funds
to state.
[40:35] Second by Wayne.
Any further discussion on that?
[40:43] All in favor? I
any
[40:47] » opposed? Two nays. Two ns.
>> Two items.
[40:51] » I vote I I vote in favor. Return the
flesh bones.
[40:58] » Thank you.
>> No worries.
[41:01] When you approve the minutes.
[41:06] » Absolutely. Moving
on to approval of the fiscal year 27
[41:11] agent service contract.
[41:17] » It's the same as it was last year.
[41:28] » Motion made by Dane. Second by Lane. Any
discussion?
[41:33] All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[41:36] None opposed.
Approval of Amy Green vacation time paid
[41:41] out.
>> I'd make that motion.
[41:44] » Second.
>> Motion made by Travis by Tom.
[41:48] Any discussion?
All in favor?
[41:51] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[41:55] None opposed.
Approve the HR actions 27005 H8.
[42:02] » I'll make a motion.
>> Second.
[42:04] » Motion made by Tom. Second by Dane. Any
discussion?
[42:10] All in favor?
>> Any opposed?
[42:14] No opposed.
Approval of the transfers.
[42:25] » Second.
>> Motion made. Second by Tom. Any
[42:28] discussion?
All in favor?
[42:33] Any opposed?
No oppos
[42:53] any discussion? Yeah, right here
moderating they went from
[42:58] one to four to two before
[43:04] script. Did that change that bid?
[43:12] » All in favor?
Any opposed?
[43:17] None opposed.
Moving on to comments from county
[43:22] attorney.
>> I don't have any question
[43:28] » comments from me.
[43:33] » I don't have any comments at the moment
but uh after we journ I won't be
[43:37] sticking around and I would advise the
rest of you if anybody wants to have any
[43:40] discussions or questions for or with me
or any mag please let's do so. I'll take
[43:48] a motion to adjourn.
>> Motion second.
[43:51] » Motion made by Wayne. Second by Tom. All
in favor? No.
[43:55] » Thank you all.