[0:02] I'D LIKE TO CALL THE SEPTEMBER [0:03] 8, 2026 MEETING TO ORDER AT 7:00 [0:04] P.M. [0:07] COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, WOULD [0:08] YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE [0:09] OF ALLEGIANCE. [0:16] [RECORDING IN PROGRESS] [0:19] I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG [0:20] OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA [0:21] AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT [0:22] STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, [0:23] INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND [0:32] JUSTICE FOR ALL. [0:33] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, [0:34] COUNCILMEMBER. [0:35] NEXT WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL. [0:36] MR. CITY CLERK. [0:37] >> Mr. Quintanilla: THANK YOU, [0:38] MAYOR. [0:39] COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG, HERE. [0:43] COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, PRESENT. [0:46] COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, HERE. [0:47] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL, HERE. [0:49] COUNCILMEMBER KENG, PRESENT. [0:50] VICE MAYOR LIU, HERE. [0:51] MAYOR SALWAN, PRESENT. [0:55] I HAVE A FEW BRIEF [0:56] ANNOUNCEMENTS. [0:57] THERE ARE CURRENT VACANCIES ON [0:58] CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. [1:01] THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ACCEPTS [1:02] APPLICATIONS YEAR-ROUND. [1:05] TO APPLY, PLEASE VISIT THE [1:06] BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND [1:09] COMMITTEES PAGE AT FREMONT.GOV. [1:11] FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC [1:12] PARTICIPATING ELECTRONICALLY [1:13] THIS EVENING, YOU MAY PROVIDE [1:15] PUBLIC COMMENT BY SELECTING THE [1:17] "RAISE HAND" FEATURE IN ZOOM, OR [1:19] BY DIALING STAR NINE IF YOU'RE [1:20] CALLING IN. [1:21] I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN PUBLIC [1:23] COMMENT IS OPEN FOR EACH AGENDA [1:24] SECTION. [1:26] PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND IF [1:28] REPRESENTING AN ORGANIZATION, [1:29] IDENTIFY THE ORGANIZATION. [1:34] EMAILS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY [1:35] CLERK ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE [1:36] CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF, [1:37] PUBLISHED IN THE AGENDA CENTER [1:39] AT FREMONT.GOV AND RETAINED AS [1:40] PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. [1:44] THIS MEETING WILL GO ON UNTIL [1:45] 11:30 P.M. IF NEEDED. [1:47] WE WILL ALLOW FOR 30 MINUTES FOR [1:49] GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. [1:52] ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS WISHING TO [1:53] SPEAK DURING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS [1:55] AFTER THE INITIAL 30 MINUTE WILL [1:56] BE HEARD AT THE MEETING -- AT [1:57] THE END OF THE MEETING IF TIME [1:58] ALLOWS. [2:01] I WILL NOW TURN THE MEETING OVER [2:03] TO OUR CITY MANAGER, KARENA [2:04] SHACKELFORD, FOR HER [2:05] ANNOUNCEMENTS AND INTRODUCTIONS [2:06] OF STAFF. [2:07] >> City Mgr. Shackelford: THANK [2:08] YOU, MAYOR SALWAN, GOOD [2:09] EVENING. [2:10] GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. [2:11] WITH US THIS EVENING WE HAVE OUR [2:14] CITY ATTORNEY, RAFAEL ALVARADO [2:15] TO MY LEFT. [2:16] ACROSS FROM RAFAEL AND I WE HAVE [2:18] OUR ASSISTANT CITY CLERK DINA [2:22] LEWIS, AND OUR CITY CLERK, [2:23] ALBERTO QUINTANILLA. [2:24] I DON'T HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS [2:25] THIS EVENING SO I'LL TURN IT [2:26] BACK TO YOU, MAYOR. [2:27] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, [2:28] MA'AM. [2:29] NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT [2:30] CALENDAR. [2:31] THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS WILL [2:32] BE PASSED WITH ONE COUNCIL VOTE [2:35] AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION WILL [2:36] STAND. [2:37] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: THROUGH [2:38] THE MAYOR, MAY I REPORT OUT OF [2:39] CLOSED SESSION? [2:40] >> Mayor Salwan: OH, YES. [2:43] >> THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED TWO [2:44] ITEMS. [2:45] THE FIRST WAS CONFERENCE WITH [2:46] REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS [2:49] PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE [2:50] SECTION 54956.8 REGARDING THE [2:53] PROPERTY LOCATED AT 501 [2:57] CRYSTALLINE DRIVE, [2:58] APN510-141-00-1100. [2:59] THE COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION [3:01] BUT TOOK NO REPORTABLE ACTION. [3:02] THE COUNCIL ALSO HAD A [3:04] CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL [3:06] REGARDING ANTICIPATED LITIGATION [3:07] REGARDING -- EXCUSE ME -- [3:11] PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE [3:13] SECTION 54956.9 SUBD4, AGAIN THE [3:15] COUNCIL TOOK NO REPORTABLE [3:16] ACTION. [3:17] THANK YOU, MAYOR. [3:18] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [3:19] NOW MOVING ON TO CONSENT [3:20] CALENDAR ITEMS DOES ANY MEMBER [3:23] OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO REMOVE AN [3:24] ITEM FROM CONSENT? [3:25] NO? [3:26] OKAY. [3:27] IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FROM THE [3:31] PUBLIC OR ONLINE THAT WISHES TO [3:33] REMOVE AN ITEM FROM CONSENT? [3:36] >> Mr. Quintanilla: NO SPEAKER [3:37] CARDS, NO HANDS RAISED. [3:38] >> Mayor Salwan: WITH THAT I [3:41] WILL CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD [3:42] AND ASK FOR A MOTION. [3:46] WE HAVE A GREEN SHEET [3:47] ITEM, ITEM 2C. [3:48] COUNCILMEMBER KENG? [3:52] >> Councilmember Keng: I WAS [3:55] MOTIONING TO MOVE FORWARD THE [3:57] CONSENT CALENDAR EXCLUDING THE [3:58] GREEN SHEET. [3:59] THANK YOU. [4:00] INCLUDING THE GREEN SHEET. [4:01] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [4:02] IS THERE A SECOND? [4:05] SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER LIU. [4:06] PLEASE VOTE. [4:12] MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. [4:16] NEXT WE HAVE TWO CEREMONIAL [4:17] ITEMS. [4:19] THIS IS FOR NATIONAL HUNGER [4:21] ACTION MONTH AND WE HAVE LINDA [4:23] LEU FROM TRI-CITY VOLUNTEERS [4:29] FOOD BANK, PADDY IYER FROM DAILY [4:34] BOWL, NASEER IRFAN FROM FOOD [4:39] PANTRY, [4:46] KAMAL ANANDPURI FROM 5 [4:53] SIKHSEVA AND SHERRY HSU FROM [4:56] TRI-CITY FREE BREAKFAST [4:57] PROGRAM. [4:58] I'LL MEET YOU BY THE PODIUM OVER [4:59] THERE. [5:11] THE FIRST ITEM IS NATIONAL [5:12] HUNGER ACTION MONTH. [5:16] WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 2026. [5:24] WHEREAS, THE CITY OF FREMONT [5:25] RECOGNIZES SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL [5:26] “HUNGER ACTION MONTH,” A [5:27] NATIONWIDE EFFORT TO RAISE [5:28] AWARENESS AND INSPIRE ACTION TO [5:30] ADDRESS FOOD INSECURITY AND [5:31] HUNGER IN OUR COMMUNITIES; AND [5:32] WHEREAS, EXTERNAL FACTOR SUCH AS [5:33] FEDERAL LEGISLATION, IN [5:34] CONJUNCTION WITH THE HIGH COST [5:36] OF LIVING, ESPECIALLY OF FOOD IN [5:37] THE BAY AREA, HAS EXACERBATED [5:42] FOOD INSECURITY. INDIVIDUALS [5:43] EXPERIENCING POVERTY MUST OFTEN [5:45] CHOOSE BETWEEN VITAL EXPENSES [5:48] INCLUDING RENT, HEALTH CARE, AND [5:51] FOOD; AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF [5:54] FREMONT ACKNOWLEDGES THE [5:57] STRUGGLE OF INDIVIDUALS AND [5:58] FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY [5:59] EXPERIENCING FOOD INSECURITY AND [6:01] HUNGER, WE ENCOURAGE OUR [6:03] RESIDENTS ARE TO LEND A HELPING [6:05] HAND BY SUPPORTING ONE OF THE [6:10] COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR [6:12] CITY WORKING TO ADDRESS THIS [6:13] ISSUE BY VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME [6:14] AND TREASURE; AND WHEREAS, THE [6:15] WORK OF GROUPS SUCH AS 5 SIKH [6:18] SEVA, DAILY BOWL, SALAAM FOOD [6:21] PANTRY, TRI-CITY FREE BREAKFAST [6:26] PROGRAM, AND TRI CITY [6:28] VOLUNTEERS, AS WELL AS ALL THEIR [6:32] VOLUNTEERS AND SUPPORTERS IS [6:33] CRITICAL TO THE ABILITY OF [6:34] EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO [6:35] THRIVE. NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY [6:37] COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FREMONT [6:40] HEREBY PROCLAIMS SEPTEMBER 2026 [6:43] AS HUNGER ACTION MONTH. [6:45] WITH THAT, I'LL ASK LINDA TO SAY [6:46] A FEW WORDS. [6:50] >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [6:52] I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE IN OUR [6:53] GROUP TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES [6:54] BUT LINDA LEU, EXECUTIVE [6:56] DIRECTOR OF TCV FOOT R. FOOD [6:57] BANK. [6:59] REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT [7:02] OF THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND [7:03] ALL OF THE CITY STAFF THAT [7:06] SUPPORT ALL OF OUR WORK HERE [7:08] BECAUSE THIS IS TRULY A REALLY [7:09] SPECIAL COMMUNITY TO BE WORKING [7:11] IN THIS INDUSTRY BECAUSE [7:12] EVERYONE SHOWS UP WHEN WE NEED [7:13] THEM. [7:15] SO THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO COME [7:17] AND VOLUNTEER AT ONE OF OUR [7:18] ORGANIZATIONS IF YOU HAVE BEEN [7:19] CURIOUS, NOW IS A GREAT TIME. [7:24] >> GOOD EVENING. [7:27] I'M DENISE BOLAND, BOARD CHAIR [7:28] FOR TRI-CITY VOLUNTEERS. [7:33] YOU KNOW, MOST MAY NOT [7:35] REALIZE 4 OF 10 OF US ARE FOOD [7:36] INSECURE SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT [7:38] TIMES FOR SOME OF OUR NEIGHBOR, [7:40] SO DON'T HESITATE TO DONATE FOOD [7:41] TO ANY ONE OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS [7:42] TO HELP YOUR NEIGHBORS. [7:50] >> GOOD EVENING, ALL. [7:54] I'M THE OPERATIONS MAP JER [7:56] MANAGER FROM DAILY BOWL. [7:57] I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY [7:58] COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CITY [8:00] STAFF FOR ALL THEIR [8:01] ENCOURAGEMENT AND AS OF TODAY, [8:04] I'M PROUDLY SAYING THAT WE HAVE [8:07] REACHED ALMOST RECOVERING AND [8:08] RESCUING 7 MILLION POUNDS, WHICH [8:10] IS -- IT'S OUR TENTH YEAR [8:13] ANNIVERSARY COMING UP IN [8:14] SEPTEMBER. [8:17] I INVITE TO ALL OF YOU, BUT IT'S [8:18] 7 MILLION POUNDS AND COUNTING. [8:19] THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR [8:20] ENCOURAGEMENT AND SUPPORT. [8:26] >> HELLO, MY NAME IS SHERRY [8:27] HSU. [8:29] I AM THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR [8:30] AT TRI-CITY FREE BREAKFAST [8:31] PROGRAM. [8:34] A TOTALLY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION [8:36] THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 30-PLUS [8:37] YEARS. [8:39] BUT I THANK THE FREMONT CITY [8:43] COUNCIL FOR THEIR SUPPORT FOR [8:44] OUR ORGANIZATION AT THIS TIME, [8:47] AND WE JUST RECENTLY KNOW THAT [8:49] AT LEAST THIS MONTH, WE HAVE [8:52] RECOVERED AT LEAST 62,000 POUNDS [8:54] OF FOOD, AND TO BE USED FOR OUR [8:55] PROGRAM. [8:57] SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND [9:01] HOPEFULLY WE CAN SEE YOU AT ONE [9:03] OF OUR BREAKFAST PROGRAMS TO [9:04] HELP VOLUNTEER. [9:05] THANK YOU. [9:34] >> Mayor Salwan: NEXT WE HAVE [9:36] MISSION PEAK HERITAGE [9:40] FOUNDATION, AND I'LL INVITE AL [9:42] MINARD, MPHF PRESIDENT, MAGGIE [9:48] BULK, VICE PRESIDENT, LAURA [9:50] CAVILLO, BOARD MEMBER AT LARGE, [9:52] AND IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO [9:53] STAND BEHIND THEM, THAT'S OKAY [9:54] TOO. [9:55] COME ON IN. [9:56] MS. BARTON AND ALL THE OTHER [9:57] FOLKS. [9:58] OKAY. [9:59] EXCELLENT. [10:00] SO RECOGNIZING MISSION PEAK [10:01] HERITAGE FOUNDATION. [10:05] WHEREAS, JAMES AND LUCY SHINN [10:07] ARRIVED IN CALIFORNIA IN 1856, [10:10] FROM TEXAS, AND SEVERAL [10:11] GENERATIONS OF THEIR FAMILY [10:13] LIVED AT SHINN RANCH AND WORKED [10:14] IN WHAT IS NOW FREMONT, UNTIL [10:17] THE SHINN FAMILY DONATED THE [10:18] REMAINING 4-1/2 ACRES OF SHINN [10:22] RANCH AND ALL REMAINING [10:24] BUILDINGS TO THE CITY OF FREMONT [10:29] IN 1962; AND WHEREAS, THE VISUAL [10:30] INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORIC SHINN [10:32] RANCH CREATES THE AMBIANCE OF A [10:33] 19TH CENTURY FAMILY FARM, [10:39] INCLUDING THE SANTOS BARN (MOVED [10:40] FROM MOWRY AVENUE), TANK HOUSE, [10:42] FLOWER GARDENS, LARGE TREES, [10:45] OTHER OUT BUILDINGS, AND THE [10:46] 150-YEAR-OLD JAMES AND LUCY [10:51] SHINN HOUSE; AND WHEREAS, A [10:52] FARMWORKERS BUNK HOUSE, WHICH IS [10:54] OVER 100 YEARS OLD, IS ON THE [10:55] PROPERTY THAT WAS USED BY SHINN [10:58] RANCH FARMWORKERS, MOSTLY [11:01] CHINESE; AND WHEREAS, MISSION [11:03] PEAK HERITAGE FOUNDATION [11:06] SUBMITTED A NOMINATION TO THE [11:08] NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC [11:12] PLACES WHICH NOW LISTS THE SHINN [11:14] RANCH FARMSTEAD AS THE SIXTH [11:16] NATIONAL REGISTER PLACE IN [11:18] FREMONT. NOW, THEREFORE, THE [11:20] CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF [11:22] FREMONT HEREBY RECOGNIZES [11:23] MISSION PEAK HERITAGE FOUNDATION [11:25] FOR GETTING THE SHINN RANCH ON [11:27] THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF [11:30] HISTORIC PLACES, AND WE [11:31] ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT [11:33] SHINN PARK AND ARBORETUM, AND [11:35] TOUR THE 150-YEAR-OLD JAMES AND [11:38] LUCY SHINN HOUSE. [11:40] WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO [11:41] AL, IF HE WANTS TO SAY A FEW [11:42] WORDS? [11:50] >> MAYOR SALWAN AND MEMBERS OF [11:52] THE FREMONT CITY COUNCIL, [11:53] MISSION PEAK HERITAGE FOUNDATION [11:57] IS HONORED TO RECEIVE THIS [11:58] PROCLAMATION. [12:00] JAMES AND LUCY SHINN CAME TO [12:04] THIS FARM IN 1856, THEY LIVED IN [12:06] A LESS THAN 500 SQUARE FOOT [12:08] COTTAGE FOR 20 YEARS WITH UP TO [12:09] FIVE CHILDREN. [12:10] WHEN THEY BUILT THEIR NEARLY [12:13] 7,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IN 1876, [12:15] THEY CALLED IT THE BIG HOUSE. [12:17] THEY HAD MOSTLY IMMIGRANT [12:20] CHINESE FARMWORKERS AND PROVIDED [12:21] HOUSING FOR THEM ON ALAMEDA [12:22] CREEK. [12:23] THEIR OLDEST WENT TO U.C. FOR [12:25] TWO YEARS, GOT HIS TEACHING [12:28] CREDENTIAL, THEN AT AGE 30, WENT [12:30] TO JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY [12:32] SETTING HISTORY AND POLITICS AT [12:33] HIS SECOND YEAR, CHARLES AND [12:35] WOODROW WILSON BECAME ROOMMATES [12:36] AND LIFELONG FRIENDS. [12:40] CHARLES' YOUNGER SISTER AFTER [12:41] GRADUATING FROM U.C., SHE SERVED [12:43] AS CHIEF EDITOR OF THE SAN [12:46] FRANCISCO LITERARY MAGAZINE, THE [12:47] OVERLAND MONTHLY. [12:49] SHE BECAME THE FIRST WOMAN TO [12:52] RECEIVE A PH.D. FROM UC BERKELEY [12:56] BASED ON HER OBSERVATIONS OF [12:58] HER DEVELOPMENT. [13:00] SHE PRESENTED HER RESEARCH TO [13:01] THE WOMEN'S EXPOSITION AT THE [13:03] CHICAGO WORLD'S FAIR IN 1893. [13:06] THE BOOK SHE WRITES BIOGRAPHY OF [13:08] A BABY IS REQUIRED READING FOR [13:10] CHILD DEVELOPMENT CLASSES AROUND [13:12] THE WORLD FOR THE NEXT 100 [13:13] YEARS. [13:17] JAMES AND LUCY SHINN'S YOUNGEST [13:19] SON ATTENDS U.C. FOR ONLY ONE [13:20] YEAR AND NEVER GETS HIS DEGREE. [13:23] HIS FATHER'S HEALTH IS FAILING, [13:25] SO JOSEPH MUST RUN THEIR [13:26] 300-ACRE RANCH. [13:27] HE BECOMES A TRUSTEE OF WHAT IS [13:30] NOW CALLED WASHINGTON HIGH [13:31] SCHOOL, JOINS WITH OTHER [13:33] RANCHERS IN THE AREA AND FORMS [13:34] THE ALAMEDA COUNTY WATER [13:36] DISTRICT AND SERVES AS THE FIRST [13:37] PRESIDENT FOR NEARLY 25 YEARS. [13:43] JOSEPH MARRIES FLORENCE IN 1905 [13:44] AND BUILDS A 1 1/2 STORY [13:47] BUNGALOW, ALL THREE OF THESE [13:49] BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE [13:51] CHINESE WORKERS' CABINS ARE ON [13:52] THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF [13:53] HISTORIC PLACES. [13:55] THIS PARK AND THESE BUILDINGS [13:57] ARE LESS THAN 1-MILE FROM WHERE [14:00] WE STAND AND CELEBRATE THE [14:01] INCREDIBLE HISTORIC HERITAGE OF [14:02] FREMONT. [14:05] WE INVITE EVERYONE TO VISIT THE [14:07] SHINN HOUSE ON THE THIRST [14:09] WEDNESDAY OR THIRD SUNDAY OF [14:11] EACH MONTH FROM 1:00 TO 4:00 [14:12] P.M. [14:13] THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK [14:14] YOU. [15:19] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU FOR [15:20] THAT. [15:21] NEXT WE HAVE ORAL [15:22] COMMUNICATIONS. [15:26] ANY PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK ON [15:27] AN ITEM THAT IS NOT LISTED ON [15:29] THE AGENDA MAY DO SO DURING ORAL [15:30] COMMUNICATIONS. [15:31] MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC [15:32] PARTICIPATING VIA ZOOM MAY RAISE [15:34] THEIR HAND USING THE ZOOM "RAISE [15:36] HAND" FEATURE, OR BY DIALING [15:37] STAR NINE WHEN CALLING IN. [15:41] IF YOUR NAME IS NOT DISPLAYED, [15:42] PLEASE STATE IT BEFORE [15:43] SPEAKING. [15:46] AGAIN THE COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE [15:47] ACTION OR RESPOND DURING THIS [15:48] COMMENT PERIOD. [15:50] THOUGH ITEMS MAY BE REFERRED TO [15:51] STAFF FOR POSSIBLE PLACEMENT ON [15:52] A FUTURE AGENDA. [15:56] A BELL WILL SOUND WHEN 30 [15:58] SECONDS REMAIN AND AGAIN WHEN [15:59] YOUR TIME HAS ENDED. [16:00] THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL THE [16:02] NAME OF THE SPEAKERS ATTENDING [16:05] IN PERSON FIRST, FOLLOWED BY [16:06] FOLKS THAT ARE ONLINE. [16:07] WITH THAT, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO [16:09] WE HAVE FOR ORAL COMMUNICATION? [16:11] >> Mr. Quintanilla: WE HAVE NO [16:13] HANDS RAISED IN ZOOM, WE HAVE [16:14] SIX SPEAKER CARDS. [16:16] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, LET'S DO [16:17] 2 MINUTES EACH. [16:18] >> Mr. Quintanilla: OUR FIRST [16:20] SPEAKER IS RUTH GENTRY FOLLOWED [16:22] BY JOE ROSE FOLLOWED BY KRISTIN [16:23] LANE. [16:36] >> HI, MAYOR SALWAN AND [16:37] COUNCILMEMBERS. [16:39] MY NAME IS RUTH GENTRY, AND I [16:40] LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE SHINN [16:41] HOUSE. [16:42] IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. [16:44] AND WE'VE LIVED THERE, MY [16:46] HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED THERE [16:48] FOR OVER 45 YEARS, AND OUR [16:50] NEIGHBOR STEVE, WHO'S HERE ALSO [16:52] WITH ME, HE'S BEEN THERE FOR [16:55] PROBABLY OVER 30 YEARS. [16:56] AND I WANTED TO BRING TO THE [16:58] COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S [17:02] ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE A HUGE [17:03] HOMELESS PROBLEM STARTING FIRES [17:07] BEHIND OUR HOUSE ALONG THE SHINN [17:08] SIDING NEAR THE RAILROAD [17:09] TRACKS. [17:10] AND THE HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE [17:13] LIVING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, [17:14] WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR [17:15] HOMES. [17:18] AND THE PROPERTY WHICH WAS ONCE [17:21] THE FLINT COAT SHEETROCK PLANT. [17:26] AND THAT PLANT WAS TORE DOWN AND [17:28] CLEARED OUT AND NOW THE HOMELESS [17:30] PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN, AND THEY [17:32] HAVE CUT HOLES IN THE FENCE [17:34] ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS. [17:36] THEY ENTER THE RAILROAD SIDE, [17:39] THEY HAVE HORSESHOE PITS SET [17:40] UP. [17:41] THEY'RE VERY CREATIVE. [17:44] THEY HAVE HORSESHOE PITS SET UP [17:45] AND THEY -- IN THE EVENING WHEN [17:47] THEY CAN'T SEE THE HORSESHOE [17:48] PITS, THEY START BONFIRES. [17:52] WE'VE HAD PROBABLY CLOSE TO 10 [17:56] FIRES BEHIND OUR HOMES IN THE [17:59] LAST FIVE YEARS, AND MOST [18:04] RECENTLY ON THE 6TH, THIS PAST [18:05] WEEK. [18:06] OH, THAT'S FAST. [18:10] ANYWAY, AND I'VE TALKED WITH THE [18:12] PROPERTY MANAGER THAT IS IN [18:15] CHARGE OF THAT PROPERTY, AND HE [18:16] SAID HE WILL SPEAK TO THE OWNER [18:18] AND THE RAILROAD TO SEE IF [18:19] SOMEBODY COULD BE DONE, BUT I [18:21] WANTED TO BRING TO THE MAYOR'S [18:22] ATTENTION AND THE COUNCIL, THAT [18:23] THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING [18:24] WITH. [18:25] WE HAVE JEOPARDIZED OUR HOMES [18:27] BECAUSE THE BONFIRES HAVE CAUGHT [18:30] THE TREES ON FIRE, WHICH HAVE [18:31] SPREAD OVER OUR HOMES AT TIMES. [18:37] >> Mr. Quintanilla: NEXT SPEAKER [18:40] IS JOE ROSE FOLLOWED BY KRISTIN [18:42] LANE FOLLOWED BY MARGARET BULK. [18:44] >> GOD EVENING, MAYOR SALWAN, [18:45] CITY COUNCIL, STAFF. [18:48] AGAIN MY NAME IS JOE ROSE. [18:51] I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR NAMI [18:52] ALAMEDA COUNTY SOUTH. [18:54] THAT'S THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON [18:55] MENTAL ILLNESS, AND WE'RE HAVING [18:59] OUR ANNUAL WALK AT FREMONT [19:03] CENTRAL PARK NEXT TO THE LIONS 1 [19:05] AND LIONS 2 PICNIC AREAS. [19:07] WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT JEFF [19:10] BELL, WHO'S A RETIRED CBS [19:12] ANCHOR, WILL BE OUR KEYNOTE [19:13] SPEAKER THERE. [19:17] HE FOUNDED THE ADVERSITY [19:23] TO ADVOCACY COMMUNITY-BASED [19:24] ORGANIZATION. [19:25] SO HE'S A VERY INTERESTING [19:27] SPEAKER, AND IF YOU GET ON OUR [19:28] WEBSITE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE [19:33] HIS BIO, ALONG WITH MAYOR [19:34] SALWAN, HE'LL BE OUR SPEAKER AS [19:36] WELL, SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING [19:39] OUT AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF [19:40] MENTAL HEALTH, AND ALL THE OTHER [19:42] COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS [19:43] THAT WILL HAVE TABLES THERE TO [19:45] LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT IS [19:47] AVAILABLE TO THEM IN FREMONT. [19:50] SO AGAIN I WANT TO THANK THE [19:52] COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND STAFF FOR [19:54] THE SUPPORT OF THIS WALK. [19:56] WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE FUNDING [19:59] FOR THE WALK IS GENERALLY DONE [20:00] ONLINE. [20:01] THERE'S VERY LITTLE DONE AT THE [20:02] WALK ITSELF. [20:04] THE PRIMARY PURPOSE FOR THE WALK [20:05] IS TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW [20:07] WHAT KIND OF SERVICES ARE [20:08] AVAILABLE TO THEM. [20:11] SO I WOULD APPRECIATE PEOPLE [20:12] COMING OUT TO THE WALK AND [20:14] SEEING WHAT WE DO AND WHAT [20:16] OTHERS DO AS WELL, SO THANK YOU, [20:17] CITY COUNCIL. [20:18] HOPE THAT YOU'RE OUT THERE AS [20:19] WELL. [20:20] SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR [20:21] HELP AND SUPPORT. [20:22] >> Mr. Quintanilla: OUR NEXT [20:23] SPEAKER IS KRISTIN LANE, [20:25] FOLLOWED BY MARGARET BULK, [20:26] FOLLOWED BY JANNET BARTON. [20:33] >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. [20:37] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR SALWAN AND [20:38] COUNCILMEMBERS. [20:39] I AM HERE TO ENTER COMMENTS [20:40] REGARDING THE CAR GATHERING [20:43] TAKEOVER ON SATURDAY NIGHT IN [20:44] NILES INTO RECORD. [20:46] PARK CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL [20:47] IN THE BAY AREA. [20:50] ANY GIVEN WEEKEND THERE ARE 15 [20:52] TO 30, YES, 30 PERMITTED [20:53] SANCTIONED EVENTS ACROSS THE BAY [20:54] AREA. [20:56] IN NILES, WE HAVE TWO PERMANENT [20:58] CAR SHOWS AND A MONTHLY SUNDAY [20:59] MORNING GATHERING BY THE NILES [21:00] MAIN STREET ASSOCIATION. [21:02] WE WORK VERY HARD TO KEEP THESE [21:04] EVENTS SAFE, FAMILY-FRIENDLY AND [21:05] DRAMA-FREE. [21:07] WITH EVERY GROUP THERE ARE A FEW [21:09] BAD SEEDS AND WE SAW THAT THIS [21:10] LAST SATURDAY EVENING. [21:11] WHAT BEGAN AS A NICE FAMILY [21:13] FRIENDLY EVENT DEVOLVED INTO [21:17] CHAOS AND [21:18] AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIORS. [21:20] AGAIN THIS WAS NOT SANCTIONED OR [21:22] SUPPORTED IN ANY WAY BY NILES [21:23] MAIN STREET OR THE NILES FLYING [21:24] A. [21:26] BEGINNING AT ABOUT 8:00 WE SAW [21:27] AN INCREASE IN CHIRPS, LOUD [21:28] MUSIC, CUTTING OFF FLOW OF [21:30] TRAFFIC, LAYING RUBBER AND [21:32] CLOSING OFF ACCESS TO NILES [21:33] BOULEVARD. [21:36] MY HUSBAND AND I CHOSE TO KEEP [21:40] THE FLYING A [21:41] OPEN. [21:43] AS SUCH THE BAD BEHAVIOR AND [21:45] DAMAGES STAYED IN THE LARGE [21:46] PARKING LOTS I AND NILES [21:48] BOULEVARD UPWARDS OF 400 EXTRA [21:49] DOLLARS WE SPENT ON SUNDAY [21:50] CLEANING UP NILES. [21:52] I MADE MY CALLS TO DISPATCH [21:53] UNDERSTANDING RESOURCES WERE NOT [21:54] AVAILABLE. [21:56] WE WANT TO FIND A SOLUTION TO [21:57] AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIORS IN THE [21:59] SMALLER SECTIONS OF FREMONT AND [22:00] OTHER TOWNS THAT ARE SEEING AN [22:01] INCREASE IN THIS TYPE OF [22:02] ACTIVITY. [22:05] SEVERAL OF US ARE PROVERRING A [22:06] FEW SUGGESTIONS TO BRING TO THE [22:07] CITY FOR CONSIDERATION. [22:08] OVERALL MEMBERS OF THE CAR [22:09] CULTURE ARE RESPECTFUL AND WE [22:11] SPEND A LOT OF TIME TEACHING [22:12] OTHERS HOW THEY SHOULD BE ACTING [22:13] AT CAR SHOWS AND CAR MEETS [22:14] NIGHT, MORNING, DAY OR [22:15] OTHERWISE. [22:18] I PREPARED AND SENT AN EMAIL TO [22:19] PD AND COUNCIL THIS PAST SUNDAY [22:20] SUMMARIZING ACTIVITIES. [22:21] THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER [22:22] CAMPBELL, FOR REACHING OUT. [22:25] I HAVE ALSO EXTENDED AN INVITE [22:27] TO JOIN US AT OUR MONTHLY [22:28] MEMBERSHIP MEETING THIS THURSDAY [22:29] TO HEAR AND ADDRESS COMMUNITY [22:30] CONCERNS. [22:31] AGAIN, AS PRESIDENT OF NILES [22:33] MAIN STREET, AND EXECUTIVE [22:34] DIRECTOR, I'M INTERESTED IN [22:35] FOSTERING COLLABORATION. [22:37] >> Mr. Quintanilla: OUR NEXT [22:39] SPEAKER IS MARGARET BULK [22:41] FOLLOWED BY JANNET BARTON. [22:45] >> HELLO. [22:48] THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, MAYOR, [22:49] VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. [22:54] I JUST HAVE TWO KIND OF FUN [22:55] THINGS. [22:57] SO THIS COMING WEEKEND, TWO OF [22:58] OUR DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE [23:00] PARTICIPATING IN DOORS OPEN, [23:04] WHICH IS AN ANNUAL EVENT WHERE [23:05] HISTORIC ORGANIZATIONS OPEN [23:08] THEIR DOORS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE [23:09] SPECIAL TOURS. [23:12] SO THE SHINN HOUSE IS [23:14] PARTICIPATING AS WELL AS THE [23:16] NILES SILENT FILM MUSEUM, THE [23:18] CALIFORNIA NURSERY COMPANY AND [23:20] ALSO ON SUNDAY, MISSION SAN [23:22] JOSÉ, SEVERAL SITES WILL BE [23:23] OPEN. [23:25] I WILL LEAVE THIS, I GUESS, HERE [23:31] AND THEN ALSO AT THE END OF THIS [23:35] MONTH, A PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING [23:36] AUTHOR, MERE YM POWELL, IS [23:38] PUBLISHING A BOOK CALLED [23:39] CALIFORNIA DREAMS AND KIND OF [23:42] RELATED TO THE SHINN HOUSE, [23:44] MILLICENT SHINN WHO, AS AL [23:45] MINARD STATED, WAS THE FIRST [23:48] WOMAN TO GET A PH.D. FROM UC [23:49] BERKELEY. [23:50] SHE FEATURES HEAVILY IN THE [23:52] BOOK, SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU [23:53] KNOW. [23:54] THANK YOU. [23:57] >> Mr. Quintanilla: NEXT SPEAKER [24:00] IS JANNET BARTON. [24:08] >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND [24:10] VICE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. [24:12] MY NAME IS JANNET BARTON, AND [24:16] I'M A VOLUNTEER AT SHINN PARK. [24:18] AND AS MAGGIE MENTIONED, WE'RE [24:23] HAVING DOORS OPEN TO CELEBRATE [24:24] AMONGST MANY THINGS. [24:28] THE 150TH OF THE BUILDING OF THE [24:32] SHINN HOUSE, THE 170TH YEAR OF [24:35] THE SHINNS ARRIVING IN [24:38] CALIFORNIA, AND WE ALSO, AS [24:39] MAGGIE OR MAYBE AL MENTIONED, [24:42] WE'RE NOW ON THE NATIONAL [24:43] REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, [24:46] WHICH PUT US IN AN EXCELLENT [24:50] SPOT TO APPLY FOR A [24:53] GRANT FROM THE ASIAN AND [24:56] PACIFIC ISLANDER AMERICANS AND [24:59] HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE PLACE [25:00] KEEPER'S GRANT. [25:03] WE WERE 1 OUT OF 14 APPLICANTS [25:05] NATIONWIDE, AND THERE WERE 60 [25:06] APPLICANTS WHO APPLIED. [25:07] SO THIS IS REALLY A GREAT HONOR [25:08] FOR US. [25:10] WE'LL BE SIGNING OUR CONTRACT [25:11] THIS WEEK. [25:17] AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER [25:20] CAMPBELL AND KIMBERLIN AND ZHANG [25:23] FOR HELPING US AT VERY SHORT [25:24] NOTICE TO WRITE A LETTER OF [25:25] SUPPORT FOR OUR GRANT. [25:32] AND SO I WANTED TO ALSO [25:36] INTRODUCE MIKE AND -- PART OF [25:37] THE TEAM WHO HAVE BEEN WITH US [25:39] FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. [25:42] THEY HAPPEN TO BE MY NEIGHBORS. [25:47] AND WE HAVE -- OUR TEAM WILL BE [25:51] THERE AT DOORS [25:53] OPEN AT THE BUNK HOUSE AND ALSO [25:55] WE'LL BE GIVING TOURS INSIDE OF [25:56] THE HOUSE. [25:57] SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME OUT AND [25:58] LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR PROJECT, [26:00] PLEASE COME AND VISIT US. [26:03] WE'LL HAVE THE BACK GATE OPEN SO [26:04] IF PARKING IS HARD, YOU CAN JUST [26:07] PARK IN THE BACK AND COME ON IN [26:09] AND VISIT WITH THE BUNK HOUSE [26:10] PEOPLE. [26:11] THANK YOU. [26:15] >> Mr. Quintanilla: OUR FINAL [26:20] SPEAKER CARD IS SUBMITTED BY [26:21] SAJEF NAT RAH JAJ. [26:23] >> IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE [26:24] BEEN HERE, I THINK THERE'S SOME [26:25] CHANGES, WE DON'T HAVE THAT [26:29] PLEXIGLASS HERE WHICH I GUESS AT [26:31] SOME POINT IN TIME WAS MEANT TO [26:32] KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE FROM WHICH [26:33] SIDE TO WHICH SIDE BUT THE IDEA [26:34] WAS ABOUT SAFETY. [26:36] I'M REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT [26:37] SAFETY PARTICULARLY IN THE [26:38] CONTEXT OF OUR SCHOOLS. [26:40] MY SON GOES TO THORNTON MIDDLE [26:41] SCHOOL, I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR [26:42] AND THE CITY LEADERSHIP'S [26:44] RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL ON AUGUST [26:49] 21ST HIGHLIGHTING SOME FAIRLY [26:50] SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC SAFETY [26:52] CONSIDERATIONS THERE THAT PUT [26:53] THE LIVES OF OUR 2,000 CHILDREN [26:54] AND STAFF AT RISK EVERY SINGLE [26:55] DAY. [26:56] THE SCHOOL HAS NO CHOICE IN [26:57] TERMS OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED BUT [27:01] I WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME [27:02] THE SUPPORT FROM OUR [27:03] HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN IN [27:05] BLUE TO SHOW UP THERE AND START [27:06] TICKETING THE DRIVERS THAT [27:07] CHOOSE TO CONVENIENTLY IGNORE [27:09] THE TRAFFIC LAWS IN OUR CITY THE [27:10] MOMENT THEIR PRECIOUS PANCAKES [27:11] ARE OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE. [27:15] AND YOU KNOW, IT GOT SO BAD LAST [27:19] YEAR I ENDED UP SPENDING 4 OR [27:22] $500 OUT OF MY POCKET TO GET THE [27:25] STAFF SOME HIGH VISIBILITY CAPS [27:26] AND VESTS BECAUSE LAST THING I [27:29] WANTED TO SEE WAS A STAFF MEMBER [27:30] DIRECTING TRAFFIC GETTING HIT. [27:32] SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY [27:34] CREDIT FOR TRAFFIC TRYING TO [27:35] BEHAVE A LITTLE BETTER AFTER [27:39] THEY CAN SEE THESE FOLKS BUT MY [27:40] UNDERSTANDING IS THE EMAIL CAME [27:42] OUT ON AUGUST 21ST AS I REACHED [27:43] OUT TO YOU ALL AND ON MONDAY, [27:45] THERE WAS AL COP CAR OR CRUISER [27:47] THAT WAS STATIONED RIGHT OUTSIDE [27:50] THE SCHOOL AND I'M TOLD THAT [27:51] DESPITE THE PRESENCE OF A [27:52] UNIFORMED OFFICER THERE WERE [27:53] VEHICLES VIOLATING THE LAW. [27:56] SO IT JUST SPEAKS TO THIS IDEA [27:58] THAT OUR DRIVERS HERE IN FREMONT [27:59] HAVE STARTED TO DISREGARD THE [28:00] LAWS OF THE LAND. [28:02] WE ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH [28:04] TRANSIENTS THERE, MOST RECENTLY [28:05] THREE PEOPLE WHO WERE PRETTY [28:07] UNHINGED IN A STATE OF, YOU [28:09] KNOW, GETTING QUITE A BIT OF [28:12] CHAOS PUTTING THE KIDS AT QUITE [28:13] A BIT OF RISK THERE. [28:16] SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE THEIR [28:19] VERSION OF FLEX GLASS WHICH IS [28:22] MORE COPS, MORE ENFORCEMENT. [28:23] THANK YOU. [28:24] >> Mr. Quintanilla: NO [28:25] ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. [28:26] >> Mayor Salwan: THAT CONCLUDES [28:27] THE ORAL COMMUNICATION COMMENT [28:28] PERIOD. [28:29] I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR [28:32] VOICING YOUR OPINION. [28:33] AS MENTIONED WE CANNOT DIRECTLY [28:35] ACT ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S NO THE [28:37] AGENDIZED BUT PLEASE DO CONTACT [28:39] OUR STAFF AND IF THEY'RE AROUND, [28:40] YOU CAN CONNECT WITH THEM AS [28:41] WELL. [28:42] THANK YOU. [28:46] WITH THAT, WE WILL GO ON TO OUR [28:47] SCHEDULED ITEMS. [28:53] I'D LIKE TO SEE IF [28:54] COUNCILMEMBERS -- I'D LIKE TO [28:55] CHANGE THE ORDER AND GO 5B, [28:57] WHICH IS THE HEALTH BENEFIT [28:58] ALLOWANCE PRIOR TO 5A. [28:59] DOES ANYBODY OPPOSE THAT? [29:05] >> Councilmember Campbell: CAN [29:07] YOU DO THAT AFTER IT'S ALREADY [29:08] BEEN APPROVED? [29:10] SINCE WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE [29:13] AGENDA AS IT STANDS, CAN WE MAKE [29:14] CHANGES NOW OR DO WE HAVE TO [29:15] MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? [29:19] >> Mayor Salwan: IF THERE'S NO [29:20] OBJECTION. [29:21] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: IF [29:22] THERE'S CONSENSUS, THAT SHOULD [29:23] BE SUFFICIENT BUT IF IT'S [29:24] UNCLEAR WHETHER THERE'S [29:25] AGREEMENT, A MOTION IS THE SAFER [29:26] ROUTE TO TAKE. [29:27] >> Councilmember Campbell: I [29:28] HAVE NO OBJECTION, I JUST WANTED [29:29] TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. [29:30] THANK YOU. [29:31] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [29:35] SO THE FIRST ITEM IS 5P, CITY OF [29:36] FREMONT HEALTH BENEFIT ALLOWANCE [29:37] FOR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. [29:39] DO WE HAVE STAFF TO PRESENT [29:40] THAT? [29:48] STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR [29:49] QUESTIONS. [29:50] NO PRESENTATION. [29:51] SO IF STAFF COULD COME ON UP, [29:52] I'M SURE THERE WILL BE [29:53] QUESTIONS. [29:57] COUNCILMEMBER KENG. [29:58] >> Councilmember Keng: ALL [29:59] RIGHT. [30:03] MY QUESTION IS, IS IT TRUE [30:06] THAT OTHER -- I'LL WAIT FOR YOU [30:07] TO GET TO YOUR SEAT. [30:18] SO I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. [30:22] IS IT TRUE THAT PART-TIME [30:25] EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY ARE [30:29] OFFERED HEALTH BENEFITS THAT ARE [30:30] RECOMMENDED -- THAT ARE BEING [30:32] RECOMMENDED HERE FOR THE [30:33] COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE ALSO [30:35] CONSIDERED PART-TIME? [30:37] AND DO YOU KNOW WHY IT WASN'T [30:39] OFFERED TO THE CITY [30:40] COUNCILMEMBERS BEFORE? [30:43] >> GENERALLY OUR PART-TIME [30:45] EMPLOYEES ARE NON-BENEFITED. [30:48] THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT [30:51] ARE NOT QUITE 100% IN TERMS OF [30:53] THE HOURS WORKED IN A YEAR, AND [30:55] THEN BENEFITS ARE PRO-RATED FOR [30:57] THOSE POSITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN [30:59] HUMAN SERVICES, WE HAVE SOME [31:04] COUNSELORS THAT WORK AN 80% [31:07] SCHEDULE AND THEIR BENEFITS ARE [31:08] PRO-RATED COMMENSURATE WITH THAT [31:09] BUT GENERALLY OUR PART-TIME [31:10] EMPLOYEES ARE NOT BENEFITED. [31:12] >> Councilmember Keng: I SEE. [31:13] THANK YOU. [31:15] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [31:16] CAMPBELL. [31:17] >> Councilmember Campbell: THANK [31:18] YOU, MAYOR. [31:22] I JUST -- TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT [31:24] QUESTION THAT SHE JUST ASKED, I [31:25] WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION BASED [31:27] ON THE STAFF REPORT THAT [31:31] BENEFITS WERE OFFERED TO THE [31:33] CITY COUNCIL BEFORE AND THEN [31:35] TAKEN BACK AND NOW REINSTATING [31:36] THEM? [31:39] >> AS FAR AS THE HEALTH BENEFIT, [31:41] THERE HAS BEEN A STANDING HEALTH [31:45] BENEFIT WHICH WAS A LITTLE BELOW [31:46] THE MEDIAN OF OUR COMPARABLE [31:48] CITIES, AND SO THE PROPOSAL FOR [31:51] THIS ORDINANCE IS TO INCREASE IT [31:54] COMMENSURATE WITH THE 50% [31:56] PART-TIME STATUS OF THE [31:59] COUNCILMEMBERS TO 50% OF THE [32:00] BENEFIT THAT OUR REGULAR [32:01] EMPLOYEES RECEIVE FOR HEALTH. [32:02] >> Councilmember Campbell: [32:03] OKAY. [32:04] IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE [32:08] TO TAKE UP AT THIS MEETING IF [32:09] WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT OR IS [32:12] THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD [32:13] PERHAPS LOOK AT AT ANOTHER [32:14] TIME? [32:15] IS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON WHY [32:16] WE'RE DOING IT NOW? [32:18] >> I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY [32:19] ATTORNEY ON THAT. [32:22] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: THIS IS [32:25] A CONTINUING DISCUSSION THAT [32:26] ORIGINATED FROM THE CHARTER [32:29] ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S [32:30] RECOMMENDATIONS, AND [32:31] SUBSEQUENTLY THE COUNCIL [32:32] CONSIDERED AND GAVE STAFF [32:35] DIRECTION TO BRING BACK A [32:38] VARIETY OF POST-CHARTER [32:39] DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT COULD BE [32:40] ADDRESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY, SO [32:43] THIS IS ONE AMONGST A VARIETY OF [32:44] ITEMS THAT IS COMING BACK TO THE [32:45] COUNCIL AS AN EXTENSION OF THAT [32:46] CONVERSATION. [32:53] THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT [32:54] THAT THE COUNCIL TAKE ACTION. [32:57] THIS IS A DECISION THAT THE [33:00] COUNCIL CAN TAKE AT THIS TIME, [33:02] AND THE STAFF REPORT AND THE [33:06] RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED WOULD [33:07] EFFECTUATE THIS RECOMMENDATION [33:08] THAT ORIGINATED AS PART OF THE [33:09] CHARTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE [33:10] PROCESS. [33:11] >> Councilmember Campbell: [33:12] OKAY. [33:13] CAN YOU THEN -- IF THAT'S THE [33:16] CASE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT [33:19] THE -- THE COUNCIL ALREADY [33:21] RECEIVES A HEALTH BENEFIT [33:22] ALLOWANCE. [33:24] WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT OF [33:25] INCREASING THAT HEALTH BENEFIT [33:26] ALLOWANCE AT THIS PARTICULAR [33:27] TIME? [33:34] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: WELL, [33:35] FOR THOSE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT [33:37] MAY NOT HAVE COVERAGE, THIS [33:41] WOULD OFFER A HEALTH BENEFIT [33:42] ALLOWANCE COVERAGE COMMENSURATE [33:44] WITH PART-TIME EMPLOYEES IN THE [33:45] UNREPRESENTED MANAGEMENT GROUP. [33:49] >> Councilmember Campbell: IS [33:51] THAT JUST OFFERED FOR JUST THE [33:55] COUNCILPERSON OR DOES THAT MEAN [33:57] FAMILY WOULD BE INCLUDED IN [33:58] THAT? [33:59] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: IT'S [34:00] THE SAME PROGRAM THAT'S OFFERED [34:01] TO UNREPRESENTED MANAGEMENT [34:02] EMPLOYEES. [34:03] >> Councilmember Campbell: WHICH [34:04] MEANS YOU COULD INCLUDE YOUR [34:08] FAMILY, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO PAY [34:13] ANY AMOUNT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE [34:14] PROPOSED 1450? [34:15] >> THAT'S CORRECT, QUALIFYING [34:17] FAMILY MEMBERS COULD POTENTIALLY [34:20] GO UNDER A CITY COUNCILMEMBER'S [34:22] PLAN, AND IF IT EXCEEDS THE [34:24] 1450, THEN THAT WOULD BE AN OUT [34:25] OF POCKET EXPENSE. [34:26] >> Councilmember Campbell: AND [34:28] WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST OF A [34:33] BENEFIT PLAN FOR -- SAY IN THIS [34:36] -- FOR THE SAKE OF THE [34:39] DISCUSSION, FOR JUST THE CITY [34:40] COUNCILPERSON AND THEN WHAT [34:41] WOULD IT COST FOR A FAMILY? [34:43] >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT RATES [34:46] IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S ROUGHLY [34:49] FOR ONE PARTY, KAISER, ABOUT [34:51] $1,000, AND THEN FOR A FAMILY, [34:52] IT'S OVER $3,000. [34:55] >> Councilmember Campbell: SO [34:57] SUBSEQUENTLY THAT MEANT THAT THE [34:58] COUNCILPERSONS WOULD HAVE TO PAY [35:01] ANY OF THE BALANCE FOR EITHER OF [35:03] THOSE PLANS IF THEY WERE TO TAKE [35:04] THEM? [35:05] >> TYPICALLY THE CITY WILL [35:07] DEDUCT IT FROM THE EMPLOYEE'S [35:08] PAYCHECK. [35:09] >> Councilmember Campbell: IT [35:10] WOULD BE A PAYROLL DEDUCTION. [35:11] OKAY. [35:12] THANK YOU SO MUCH. [35:13] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [35:14] ZHANG. [35:15] >> Councilmember Zhang: THANK [35:16] YOU, MAYOR. [35:20] SO MY QUESTION IS WE [35:21] AGREED LAST TIME TO PUT THIS [35:23] ONE ON THE AGENDA, SO WHY WE ARE [35:24] TALKING ABOUT WHY THIS IS ON THE [35:25] AGENDA, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. [35:28] AND SECOND OF ALL, I THINK THAT [35:31] BASED ON CHARTER AND WE REACHED [35:32] SOME CONCLUSIONS AND, THEREFORE, [35:36] WE ARE TAKING ACTIONS OUT OF [35:37] THIS LENGTHY DISCUSSION. [35:42] I THINK WHETHER THIS IS FOR THE [35:43] COUNCILMEMBERS' BENEFIT, [35:44] APPARENTLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S [35:45] FOR THE COUNCILMEMBERS BENEFIT [35:47] FOR CURRENT COUNCILMEMBER BUT [35:49] IT'S REALLY FOR THE LONG TERM [35:50] FREMONT CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER [35:54] THEY ARE BEING, WHAT SHALL I [35:57] SAY, THEY ARE -- THEIR BENEFIT [36:00] OR -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SABIN [36:04] FIT, THEIR NUMBERS, THE BENEFITS [36:05] ISN'T COMPARABLE WITH OTHER [36:08] CITIES WHICH WE HAVE DONE A [36:12] LENGTHY ANALYSIS DURING THIS [36:13] COMMITTEE'S SEVERAL MONTHS OF [36:14] STUDY. [36:17] AND I JUST SIMPLY DON'T [36:19] UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE ASKING THE [36:20] SAME QUESTION AGAIN. [36:22] AND ALSO ONE QUESTION I WANT TO [36:27] ASK IS, GIVE ME THE REASON WHY [36:30] THE CITY COUNCIL IS BEING [36:35] COMPENSATED FOR ONLY $450 PER [36:36] MONTH, AND HOW DOES THAT NUMBER [36:37] COME FROM? [36:43] >> Mayor Salwan: I GUESS I'LL [36:44] JUST FOLLOW UP. [36:45] I GUESS THE LARGER QUESTION, [36:48] WHAT IS THE GENESIS OF -- I KNOW [36:50] IN THE HEARING, I HEARD IT LIVE [36:53] WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER MISS [36:54] BRIGGS ABOUT THEM FINDING OUT [36:55] THAT THEY WERE UNDERPAID. [36:57] COULD STAFF COMMENT TO THAT, [36:59] LIKE HOW -- YOU KNOW, HOW YOU [37:01] FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS LOW OR [37:03] WHAT HAPPENED EXACTLY IF YOU'D [37:04] JUST WALK US THROUGH THAT. [37:07] >> SO WE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF [37:09] GENERAL LAW AND CHARTER CITIES [37:11] TO ASSESS WHAT THEIR [37:13] COUNCILMEMBERS AND MAYORS WERE [37:16] RECEIVING IN TERMS OF HEALTH [37:18] BENEFIT ALLOWANCE OR EQUIVALENT [37:19] THEREOF, AND WE DID FIND THAT [37:21] THE CITY OF FREMONT WAS QUITE [37:23] BELOW THE MEDIAN OF WHAT THE [37:24] COMPARABLE CITIES WERE [37:25] OFFERING. [37:28] AND SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS WHAT [37:31] WE WERE OFFERING OUR OTHER [37:33] REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES. [37:36] AS YOU MAY KNOW, COUNCILMEMBERS [37:39] AND MAYOR CANNOT RECEIVE A [37:40] BETTER BENEFIT THAN REPRESENTED [37:42] UNION EMPLOYEES AND SOME OF OUR [37:43] UNIONS DO OFFER PRO-RATED [37:45] BENEFITS FOR THOSE THAT ARE [37:47] UNDER 100% IN TERMS OF THEIR [37:48] EMPLOYMENT STATUS. [37:50] SO COMMENSURATE WITH THAT, THAT [37:52] WAS THE DISCUSSION AT THE [37:54] CHARTER CITY COMMISSION MEETING, [37:55] WHERE THEY LOOKED AT WHAT THE [37:58] OTHER CITIES WERE OFFERING, AND [38:00] WHAT WE WERE DOING INTERNALLY [38:02] WITH OUR OWN UNIONS, AND KAIMG [38:07] CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT [38:09] BASED ON ABOUT A 50% EQUIVALENCY [38:10] OF EMPLOYMENT FOR COUNCILMEMBERS [38:13] AND THE MAYOR, THAT THE BENEFIT [38:14] SHOULD BE PRO-RATED. [38:16] SO CURRENTLY OUR REPRESENTED [38:19] EMPLOYEES RECEIVE $2,900 PER [38:20] MONTH FOR HEALTH BENEFIT [38:23] ALLOWANCE, SO THE 1,450 [38:25] REPRESENTS 50% OF THAT [38:27] COMMENSURATE WITH HOURS WORKED. [38:28] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [38:29] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL. [38:32] >> Councilmember Campbell: I [38:34] JUST HAVE ONE QUICK MORE [38:35] CLARIFICATION QUESTION. [38:41] SO IF YOU DON'T USE IT, WE [38:43] TALKED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF WHAT [38:46] IT WOULD COST FOR A KAISER PLAN, [38:48] AND IF ANY OF THE COUNCILPERSONS [38:50] DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO [38:53] TAKE THE BENEFIT, IT DOESN'T GO [38:55] BACK INTO THEIR CHECK OR [38:56] ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT [39:01] PART OF AN INCOME-DRIVEN PROCESS [39:02] HERE, RIGHT? [39:04] IT JUST -- IF YOU DON'T USE IT, [39:05] YOU JUST LOSE IT, CORRECT? [39:08] >> YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY [39:09] IT'S BEEN FRAMED FOR THIS [39:10] CONVERSATION. [39:11] FOR THIS RESOLUTION. [39:16] >> Mayor Salwan: NO CASH PAYOUT [39:18] I THINK IS WHAT I HAD READ. [39:19] COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN. [39:21] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: [39:22] QUESTION. [39:24] I WAS WONDERING IF WE MIGHT [39:25] CONSIDER, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD [39:27] FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE [39:28] CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE [39:30] WE ARE FINANCIALLY. [39:31] WE'VE HAD TO MAKE CUTS TO MEET [39:33] SOME OF OUR NEEDS AND TO HAVE A [39:34] BALANCED BUDGET. [39:37] WOULD IT BEHOOVE US TO WAIT [39:38] UNTIL WE GET A REPORT LIKE AT [39:39] THE -- AFTER THE BEGINNING OF [39:41] THE YEAR AND SEE HOW WE'VE DONE [39:42] FIRST QUARTER OR SEE WHERE WE [39:44] ARE FINANCIAL LITTLE AND REVIEW [39:45] IT AGAIN, NOT HAVING TO BRING IT [39:47] WITH ANOTHER REFERRAL FOR AN [39:49] ORDINANCE BUT TABLE IT UNTIL A [39:51] CERTAIN DATE, AND I WOULD THINK [39:52] MR. PERSSELIN MIGHT TELL US WHAT [39:53] THAT DATE WOULD BE? [39:55] IF WE WANT TO CONSIDER SOMETHING [39:56] LIKE THAT? [39:57] >> Mayor Salwan: I GUESS WE CAN [39:58] COME BACK FOR DELIBERATION. [40:00] MAYBE WE CAN HEAR FROM THE [40:01] PUBLIC. [40:02] THAT CAN PROBABLY HELP INFORM [40:03] THE DISCUSSION. [40:04] OKAY. [40:06] HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE ON [40:07] THIS ONE? [40:08] >> Mr. Quintanilla: WE HAVE TWO [40:09] SPEAKER CARDS. [40:10] >> Mayor Salwan: TWO MINUTES [40:11] EACH. [40:12] >> Mr. Quintanilla: FIRST [40:15] SPEAKER IS JOANN SCHWOB. [40:21] FOLLOWED BY [40:22] IZIZA. [40:23] JOANN? [40:28] WE'LL MOVE AHEAD TO IZIZA [40:29] AKBARY. [40:33] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND [40:34] COUNCILMEMBERS. [40:36] I'M A LONG-TIME FREMONT [40:37] RESIDENT. [40:38] I'M GOING TO BE COMBINING MY [40:40] COMMENTS ON BOTH 5A AND 5B [40:41] TONIGHT. [40:44] AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, [40:47] TONIGHT'S ITEM ON 5A IS A CPI [40:49] TRIGGERED ADJUSTMENT UNDER AN [40:50] EXISTING ORDINANCE, NOT AN ITEM [40:51] THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE [40:52] COUNCIL TO ASK FOR A RAISE. [40:55] 5B DID ORIGINATE FROM SOME [40:56] CONVERSATIONS HAD AROUND MOVING [40:57] TO A CHARTER CITY. [41:01] REGARDING 5A, THE ORDINANCE SETS [41:02] A CEILING BUT NOT AN [41:03] OBLIGATION. [41:04] AS COUNCILMEMBERS, YOU HAVE THE [41:07] CHOICE TO DECLINE OR DEFER THIS [41:08] INCREASE AND THAT'S SQUARELY [41:09] WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY. [41:10] THIS PAST YEAR, THE CITY WENT [41:12] INTO A NEW FISCAL YEAR WITHOUT A [41:15] SINGLE SIGNED LABOR CONTRACT, [41:16] THE FIRST TIME THAT'S HAPPENED [41:17] IN FREMONT'S HISTORY. [41:19] IT TOOK UNTIL DECEMBER FOR MOST [41:21] CITY EMPLOYEES TO SETTLE ON A [41:22] 1.3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE. [41:25] THE COUNCIL ALSO PULLED A SALES [41:27] TAX MEASURE OFF THE NOVEMBER [41:28] BALLOT BECAUSE A SURVEY SHOWED [41:29] THAT RESIDENTS ARE STRUGGLING [41:31] WITH THE COST OF GAS, GROCERIES [41:32] AND HOUSING. [41:34] AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WAS ONLY [41:37] BALANCED BY CUTTING $3 MILLION [41:38] IN INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING. [41:40] I KNOW THIS RAISE IS SMALL IN [41:42] THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY'S [41:44] OVERALL BUDGET, BUT THAT'S [41:46] EXACTLY WHY DECLINING BOTH 5A, [41:49] THE INCREASE TO SALARY, AND 5B, [41:50] THE HEALTH BENEFIT INCREASE, [41:51] REALLY MATTERS. [41:53] IT WON'T FIX FREMONT'S FINANCES [41:56] EITHER WAY, BUT WHAT IT CAN DO [41:57] IS SHOW RESIDENTS THAT PEOPLE [41:59] MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR TAX [42:00] DOLLARS ARE FACING THE SAME [42:01] PRESSURES THAT WE ALL ARE. [42:03] IF IT ISN'T THE RIGHT TIME TO [42:05] ASK RESIDENTS FOR MORE, IT ISN'T [42:07] THE RIGHT TIME FOR THE COUNCIL [42:08] TO TAKE MORE EITHER. [42:10] SO I URGE YOU TO PLEASE DECLINE [42:12] BOTH ITEMS 5A AND 5B. [42:13] THANK YOU. [42:17] >> Mr. Quintanilla: OUR NEXT [42:19] SPEAKER IS JACK RODGERS. [42:21] >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND [42:22] CITY COUNCIL. [42:26] I WAS HOPING NOT TO SPEAK [42:28] TONIGHT, BUT AFTER HEARING THE [42:31] PRESENTATION, PARTICULARLY ON [42:33] 5B, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED [42:35] BECAUSE WHEN I READ THE REPORT, [42:38] THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT [42:40] OF -- YOU TALK ABOUT FACTS THAT [42:41] WERE DELIVERED TO YOU PERHAPS BY [42:42] YOUR COMMITTEE. [42:43] BUT FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF [42:45] VIEW, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN [42:47] WRITING THERE THAT HELPS US [42:48] UNDERSTAND WHO THE COMPARABLE [42:51] CITIES WERE THAT WERE USED, WHAT [42:52] THE COMPARABLE WORKLOADS ARE, OR [42:56] WHAT THE ANALYSIS WAS THAT [42:57] GENERATED THE JUSTIFICATION TO [42:59] MOVE FORWARD WITH AN INCREASE IN [43:00] THE HEALTH BENEFIT. [43:02] IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THOUGHT [43:03] THAT LAST WEEK, YOU WERE [43:07] DELIVERED A CALENDAR OF WORK, [43:09] AND I DON'T REMEMBER -- THAT [43:10] DEALT WITH THE CHARTER WORK, AND [43:13] I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT ON [43:14] -- THAT THAT CALENDAR SAID THAT [43:15] THIS WAS COMING UP THIS WEEK. [43:19] AND SO THOSE TWO PROCESS ISSUES, [43:21] I THINK ARE REALLY QUESTIONABLE [43:22] TO ME. [43:25] AND THE LAST ONE IS DEALING WITH [43:26] A, I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT [43:29] THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, BUT I [43:31] DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN [43:32] INOPPORTUNE TIME FOR THE COUNCIL [43:35] TO TAKE THIS ACTION, AND IT IS [43:38] NOT A BIG DOLLAR CENTS, I [43:41] UNDERSTAND THIS IS REALLY JUST A [43:42] ENFORCEMENT, A RECOMMENDATION [43:45] THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE STAFF [43:46] ANNUALLY OR BIANNUALLY AS THE [43:48] CASE MAY BE FOR REVIEW OF THE [43:49] COUNCIL SALARIES. [43:52] BUT IN LIGHT OF TODAY'S ECONOMIC [43:54] PROBLEMS, I THINK IT'S UP TO [43:56] EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCILPERSON TO [43:57] WEIGH WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT [43:59] TIME TO SEND A MESSAGE WHERE IT [44:01] GOOD TO RAISE YOUR SALARY AND [44:06] NOT TO RAISE THE OTHERS' AT A [44:07] COMPARABLE RATE. [44:08] THANK YOU. [44:10] >> Mr. Quintanilla: NO [44:11] ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS. [44:12] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, WE WILL [44:13] CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, [44:14] BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. [44:17] I SEE COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN. [44:21] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: [44:22] THANK YOU, MAYOR. [44:24] EXACTLY WHAT MISTER ROGERS HAS [44:25] JUST BROUGHT UP IS MORE [44:26] INFORMATION COMING TO THE PUBLIC [44:27] I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. [44:29] SO THEREFORE, IF WE WERE TO BE [44:31] ABLE TO EXTEND IT AFTER WE GET [44:32] ANOTHER FINANCIAL REPORT AT THE [44:34] BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, IF WE [44:37] CAN THEN BRING FORTH REALLY [44:38] COMPARABLE INFORMATION FOR THE [44:40] PUBLIC TO SEE EXACTLY HOW WE GOT [44:42] FROM ONE NUMBER TO ANOTHER [44:43] NUMBER AND WHAT'S GOING ON [44:44] AROUND US. [44:49] >> Mayor Salwan: I DON'T SEE [44:50] ANYBODY ELSE RAISING THEIR [44:51] HANDS. [44:53] I DID WANT TO CLARIFY, SO ON THE [44:55] FIRST SPEAKER, THE 1.3% WAS FOR [44:56] LAST BUDGET CYCLE. [44:59] FOR THIS CYCLE, WE'VE GIVEN 3% [45:01] RAISES FOR THREE YEARS. [45:03] FOR THE COUNCIL. [45:05] SO THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY CORRECT. [45:10] AND SO -- AND THEN AS FAR AS [45:11] MISTER ROGERS, I THINK IT WAS [45:12] PRESENTED AT THE MEETING, BUT [45:15] CAN STAFF SPEAK MORE ABOUT WHAT [45:19] EXACTLY TRANSPIRED AND AS FAR AS [45:20] WHERE DOES THIS AMOUNT RANK IN [45:22] THE MEDIAN AND HOW YOU GUYS CAME [45:23] TO THIS NUMBER? [45:30] >> THE INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED [45:31] IN PUBLIC MEETINGS RELATED TO [45:34] THE CHARTER CITY COMMISSION IN [45:35] TERMS OF THE DETAIL. [45:37] WE DO HAVE THE DETAIL OF THOSE [45:40] POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS THAT [45:42] ARE AVAILABLE, IF SOMEONE CAN [45:43] PUT THEM UP ON THE SCREEN. [45:46] IT GENERALLY GIVES THE [45:47] COMPARISON OF FREMONT TO SOME OF [45:49] THE CITIES THAT ARE AROUND US. [45:50] HERE IT IS. [45:55] SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT [45:56] COUNCILMEMBERS' TOTAL [45:57] COMPENSATION, WHICH IS THE THIRD [45:59] COLUMN THERE, YOU WILL SEE THAT [46:02] THE MARKET MEDIAN IS BETWEEN SAN [46:03] MATEO AND PALO ALTO, THEY'RE AT [46:07] THE BOTTOM AT ABOUT $52,000 PER [46:08] YEAR IN TOTAL COMPENSATION. [46:09] THAT MEANS BENEFITS AND SALARY. [46:13] AND FREMONT RANKED MUCH BELOW [46:15] THAT, WITH 36,000. [46:17] AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. [46:27] WE ALSO DID A STUDY OF [46:28] THE MAYOR AND THE MARKET MEDIAN [46:33] WAS CITY OF ALAMEDA WITH 68,000 [46:34] APPROXIMATELY IN TOTAL [46:35] COMPENSATION, AND AS YOU CAN [46:37] SEE, FREMONT WAS SLIGHTLY BELOW [46:38] THAT AT 60. [46:39] 60,000. [46:40] NEXT SLIDE. [46:44] SO WE DID A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS [46:47] FOR PART-TIME POSITIONS KNOWING [46:48] THAT SOME OF OUR REPRESENTED [46:52] UNION EMPLOYEES DO RECEIVE [46:54] BENEFITS COMMENSURATE WITH THEIR [46:57] TIME WORKED, AND WE LOOKED AT [47:00] GIVING THE MAYOR AND THE [47:01] COUNCILMEMBERS ALSO A PART-TIME [47:04] STATUS AT ABOUT 50% AND 50% OF [47:06] THE BENEFIT, AND THAT INCREASED [47:08] THE ANNUAL TOTAL COMPENSATION TO [47:10] A POINT WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT [47:11] MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE [47:12] SURROUNDING MARKET. [47:13] NEXT SLIDE. [47:17] SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE [47:19] MAYOR, ONCE YOU'VE ADJUSTED THE [47:21] HBA, SO THAT THE MAYOR IS [47:25] RECEIVING 50% OF THE HBA, [47:26] THEN FREMONT ENDS UP A LITTLE [47:29] BIT ABOVE THE MEDIAN AT 72,000 [47:30] IN TOTAL COMPENSATION. [47:32] NEXT SLIDE. [47:35] AND THEN FOR COUNCILMEMBERS, [47:38] STILL BELOW THE MEDIAN, BUT MUCH [47:43] CLOSER TO THE $52,000 MEDIAN, [47:46] INCREASING THE HBA TO 50% OF [47:49] WHAT OUR REGULAR EMPLOYEES [47:50] RECEIVED GETS THE COUNCILMEMBERS [47:51] TO ABOUT 48,000. [47:54] MUCH CLOSER TO THE 52,000 THAT'S [47:55] THE MEDIAN. [48:00] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, [48:01] THAT'S HELPFUL. [48:02] SO I DON'T SEE ANYBODY WANTING [48:03] TO SPEAK. [48:05] SO -- OKAY. [48:06] EVERYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK NOW. [48:14] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL? [48:15] >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. [48:18] I THINK WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON [48:20] THE SURFACE IS SOMEWHAT [48:22] MISLEADING BECAUSE WE DON'T [48:25] ACTUALLY RECEIVE THAT CASH SINCE [48:27] THERE'S NO PAYOUT, SO WE TONIGHT [48:31] DON'T REALLY RECEIVE IT ON A [48:33] CHECK SO I DON'T SEE AN [48:34] ADDITIONAL $1,400 ON THE MONTHLY [48:35] CHECK THAT WE GET FROM THE [48:36] CITY. [48:38] AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IF I LOOK [48:40] AT -- YOU DID PROVIDE THAT ON [48:41] THE HANDOUT. [48:43] IF I LOOK AT THE COST OF THE [48:46] BENEFITS THEMSELVES, IT'S MORE [48:48] THAN WE MAKE IN A MONTH, SO THAT [48:51] MEANS THAT WE WOULD BASICALLY [48:53] NET -- WE WOULD NET ZERO AND WE [48:56] WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY GIVE BACK [48:58] TO THE CITY IF WE WERE TO [49:00] ACTUALLY TAKE THE HEALTH [49:03] INSURANCE BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY [49:05] EXPENSIVE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD [49:06] HEALTH INSURANCE. [49:11] SO THE HBA THAT WE'RE GETTING [49:12] REALLY WASHES TO ZERO. [49:14] I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT. [49:18] SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE [49:19] BENEFIT ASSOCIATED WITH IT [49:21] BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, I DON'T [49:22] SEE IT. [49:23] IT DOESN'T PENCIL OUT. [49:30] >> Mayor Salwan: I LOOK AT [49:32] KAISER, THE LOWEST FOR [49:34] INDIVIDUAL, IT'S $1,168.86. [49:36] SO THAT'S FOR ONE PERSON. [49:37] >> Councilmember Campbell: [49:38] RIGHT. [49:39] >> Mayor Salwan: SO I GUESS THE [49:41] LARGER CONCERN IS IT MIGHT NOT [49:42] MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE TO FOLKS [49:46] THAT ARE DOING WELL OR HAVE [49:48] BUSINESSES OR ARE EMPLOYED. [49:50] I JUST WORRY ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE [49:51] OR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO STEP UP [49:53] OR PEOPLE THAT ARE [49:54] UNDERPRIVILEGED IN SOME WAYS [49:57] THAT IT CAN BE A MAJOR SACRIFICE [49:58] FOR THEM. [49:59] SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE [50:03] HAVE TO FACTOR IN. [50:05] AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT, IF [50:07] SOMEBODY'S INSURANCE IS LESS, SO [50:09] IF IT'S 1169, THEN THAT PERSON [50:11] WOULD ONLY GET 1169 PAID FOR THE [50:12] INSURANCE, CORRECT? [50:14] THEY WON'T GET THE 1450 OR [50:15] WHATEVER.>> THAT'S CORRECT. [50:18] WE WOULD PAY THAT OUT AS PART OF [50:19] OUR MONTHLY PREMIUM PAYS FOR ALL [50:20] OF OUR EMPLOYEES. [50:21] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [50:23] COUNCILMEMBER LIU. [50:29] >> Councilmember Liu: SO I JUST [50:30] HAVE A COUPLE THINGS TO SAY. [50:32] I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER [50:35] THAT I THINK MR. ROGERS WAS [50:36] SURPRISED THAT THIS WAS ON THE [50:37] AGENDA. [50:38] I DO WANT TO POINT OUT [50:41] RESPECTFULLY THAT THIS WAS [50:44] LISTED ON LAST WEEK'S AGENDA, [50:46] THE POTENTIAL TIMELINE FOR [50:47] SEPTEMBER 2026, IT INCLUDES A [50:50] DRAFT ORDINANCE TO INCREASE CITY [50:51] COUNCIL SALARY AS AUTHORIZED IN [50:52] THE FREMONT MUNICIPAL CODE. [50:54] SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT [50:55] OUT. [50:56] AND I GUESS SECOND OF ALL, I [50:58] GUESS I WANTED TO TALK MORE [51:01] ABOUT LIKE -- AND THIS MIGHT BE [51:02] COMBINING THE 5A TOGETHER WITH [51:03] 5B. [51:06] BUT THEY ARE PRETTY RELATED SO I [51:07] GUESS I JUST WANT TO TALK MORE [51:11] ABOUT THE GENERAL IMPRESSION OF [51:12] LIKE OUR SALARY AND THINGS LIKE [51:13] THAT. [51:15] SO OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THE [51:17] SALARY, I THINK IF YOU DON'T [51:18] TAKE HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE [51:19] THIS IS A PART-TIME JOB, I'M [51:21] ASSUMING A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT [51:22] ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN INSURANCE [51:24] EITHER FROM THEIR SPOUSE OR [51:25] MAYBE THEY PURCHASED IT [51:26] THEMSELVES, SO IF YOU DON'T [51:30] INCLUDE THE HVA, THE ANNUAL [51:32] SALARY WORKS ITSELF OUT TO [51:35] $31,000 WHICH WHEN YOU DIVIDE IT [51:36] HOURLY IS AROUND $15 AN HOUR. [51:40] SO $15 AN HOUR, THAT'S ACTUALLY [51:42] LESS THAN THE MINIMUM WAGE WE [51:43] HAVE HERE IN FREMONT, AND $15 AN [51:45] HOUR, THAT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN [51:46] THE WAGE I HAD IN MY FIRST JOB [51:49] EVER IN 2016, WHEN I FIRST [51:50] GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL. [51:52] I WORKED AS AN AFTER-SCHOOL [51:54] TEACHER RIGHT HERE IN THE -- IN [51:56] FREMONT AS WELL, AND EVEN BACK [51:57] THEN, 10 YEARS AGO, BEFORE ALL [51:58] THIS CRAZY INFLATION, I WAS [52:03] STILL MAKING $17 AN HOUR AT [52:05] MY JOB WHICH I DIDN'T HAVE A [52:06] COLLEGE DIPLOMA OR ANYTHING LIKE [52:07] THAT. [52:10] SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN [52:12] CONTEXT SO THAT ANY RAISE IS [52:13] JUST PURELY LIKE WE'RE NOT [52:15] ASKING FOR SIX FIGURE BONUSES OR [52:16] ANYTHING LIKE THAT, NOBODY IS [52:17] GETTING RICH OFF THIS, NOBODY IS [52:19] GOING TO BE A BILLIONAIRE OR [52:20] MILLIONAIRE OFF THIS. [52:22] IT'S JUST REALLY CONSISTENT WITH [52:24] INFLATION, AND CONSISTENT TO [52:26] MOVE OURSELVES UP TO THE MARKET [52:27] MEDIAN. [52:28] AND OVERALL, I THINK SOMETHING [52:32] LIKE THIS, I REALLY EN -- IT [52:34] REALLY ENCOURAGES AND SUPPORTS [52:36] LIKE THE MAYOR MENTIONED, [52:37] SUPPORTS REGULAR PEOPLE BEING [52:38] ABLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. [52:41] I THINK THIS JOB DOESN'T PAY [52:42] ANYTHING, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, [52:45] HOW DOES THE AVERAGE PERSON, [52:47] MAYBE WHO IS ACTUALLY WORKING [52:48] MINIMUM WAGE JOB, HOW ARE THEY [52:50] ABLE TO REPRESENT THE WORKING [52:52] CLASS PEOPLE AND HAVE A SEAT, [52:55] YOU KNOW, ON THIS COUNCIL OR [52:56] ANYWHERE IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO [52:57] SACRIFICE THEIR TIME WITHOUT [52:58] BEING COMPENSATED FOR THAT? [53:01] SO I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS [53:03] TO ENSURE AND FUTUREPROOF THIS [53:05] TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RAISES [53:08] THAT -- I MEAN THE SALARY THAT [53:09] WAS SET HOWEVER LONG AGO IS ABLE [53:12] TO RISE WITH INFLATION AND STAY [53:14] CONSISTENT, IT DOESN'T GET EATEN [53:15] AWAY BY INFLATION AND ENSURES [53:16] THAT ANYBODY ELSE COMING AFTER [53:18] US WILL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, [53:21] TAKE THIS WITHOUT UNNECESSARY [53:22] UNDUE BURDEN ON ONE THEMSELVES. [53:23] THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT. [53:27] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, NEXT [53:28] IS COUNCILMEMBER KENG. [53:33] >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. [53:35] I KIND OF LOOKED AT IT AS KIND [53:38] OF A SIMILAR REASONING BEHIND [53:39] MOVING TO DISTRICT ELECTION. [53:42] SO IT KIND OF GIVES MORE ACCESS [53:44] FOR THE REGULAR FOLKS WHO RUN [53:47] FOR OFFICE, AND I THINK IT'S [53:52] PRETTY CLEAR THAT WHERE THE [53:55] COUNCILMEMBERS IN FREMONT ARE [53:56] BEING PAID PRETTY ON THE LOW END [53:59] OF THIS CHART, AND I WILL KIND [54:03] OF SHARE THAT IF -- FOR THOSE OF [54:06] YOU THAT ARE NOT AWARE THAT FOR [54:08] EXAMPLE LIKE SAN LEANDRO, THEY [54:12] ARE BEING PAID AT AROUND 61,000, [54:15] BUT KINE OF NOBODY WANT TO RUN [54:19] FOR OFFICE OVER THERE IN SAN [54:21] LEANDRO BECAUSE IT'S NOT A EASY [54:22] JOB TO DO, IT TAKES A LOT OF [54:27] TIME AND A LOT OF TIMES [54:29] THEIR ELECTED OFFICES ARE BEING [54:31] RUN IN THE POLLS, WHICH IS NOT [54:32] GOOD FOR OUR DEMOCRACY. [54:35] SO I THINK IT'S HAVING THIS WILL [54:39] KIND OF SET UP A BETTER [54:42] COMPENSATION FOR -- NOT JUST FOR [54:44] THE CURRENT ELECTS BUT ALSO FOR [54:45] PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE. [54:46] THANK YOU. [54:52] >> Mayor Salwan: I DID QUICK [54:56] MATH, IT WAS LIKE .02% OF OUR [54:58] TOTAL WOULD BE THE SALARY [54:59] INCREASE, ASSUMING EVERYBODY [55:03] GETS THE MAX, [55:05] 1450, SOME MAY NOT LEAD IT, [55:06] SOME MAY HAVE LESS. [55:07] IT'S TRIVIAL, REALLY. [55:09] IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK [55:10] THE BUDGET. [55:12] SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF [55:13] OTHER CONCERNS. [55:17] AND THEN THE 450 ONLY COVERS 38% [55:18] OF THE INSURANCE. [55:20] AND THAT'S THE LOWEST RATE WHICH [55:21] IS KAISER. [55:22] AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY [55:24] WE'RE BEING PROGRESSIVE OR WE [55:25] HAVE PROGRESSIVE VALUES, THEN [55:27] YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR [55:29] YOUNG PEOPLE TO RUN, PEOPLE THAT [55:31] ARE UNDERPRIVILEGED, PEOPLE THAT [55:32] DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES. [55:34] YOU WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO [55:35] SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. [55:36] IT SHOULDN'T BE JUST PEOPLE LIKE [55:40] ME OR PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING VERY [55:41] WELL. [55:42] SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO [55:43] CONSIDER AS WELL. [55:44] COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG. [55:46] >> Councilmember Zhang: YES, [55:47] THANK YOU. [55:50] I HEAR EVERYONE'S COMMENT, AND I [55:51] ECHO THAT, AND ANOTHER THING I [55:56] THINK WE RESPECT AS A CITY, WE [55:59] RESPECT THE FIREMEN'S WORK, WE [56:01] RESPECT POLICEMEN'S WORK, WE [56:02] RESPECT THE CITY STAFF'S WORK. [56:06] AND EVERY YEAR, WE GO INTO [56:09] CAREFUL DELIBERATION AND TALK [56:12] ABOUT SALARY NEGOTIATION AND [56:13] TALK ABOUT THEIR BENEFIT AND WE [56:16] DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO [56:20] GIVE OUR STAFF WHAT THEY -- WHAT [56:21] THEY DESERVE. [56:23] BUT THEN THAT ALSO REFLECTS OUR [56:25] CULTURE, HOW WE LOOK AT ELECTED [56:26] OFFICIALS. [56:30] AND DO WE RESPECT OUR WORK, DO [56:32] WE -- ARE WE PROUD OF, YOU KNOW, [56:33] SERVING THE COMMUNITY. [56:36] DO WE AS A CITY COUNCIL, DO YOU [56:37] RESPECT YOUR WORK? [56:40] AND I THINK THIS IS NOT ABOUT [56:41] US. [56:42] I'M TALKING ABOUT -- I'M TALKING [56:44] ABOUT THE PAST AND ALSO [56:45] ESPECIALLY THE FUTURE. [56:47] AND DO THE COMMUNITY RESPECT OUR [56:48] WORK. [56:49] AND ALSO DO WE RESPECT OUR [56:50] WORK. [56:54] SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY MINOR [56:57] THINGS, AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT [56:59] THE BIG PICTURE AND ALSO I [57:03] RESPECT MY WORK, AND I HOPE THE [57:07] CITY COMMUNITY WOULD SEE OUR [57:09] ACTION AND HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE, [57:11] BUT AT THE SAME TIME, DO [57:12] APPRECIATE HOW MUCH TIME WE PUT [57:13] INTO THAT. [57:14] IT'S NOT A PART-TIME JOB. [57:18] BECAUSE I THINK IN ORDER TO DO A [57:19] GREAT -- MAKE A POLICY AND MAKE [57:21] A RIGHT DECISION, WE KEEP ON [57:23] LOOKING AT THE POLICIES NOT ONLY [57:28] THE STATE, NOT ONLY THE CITY, [57:29] THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY, IT'S [57:31] NOT IT'S A 7 -- WHAT'S IT [57:32] CALLED, A 5 HOUR A DAY JOB. [57:37] IT'S LIKE YOU'RE -- YOURSELF [57:38] INTO THIS. [57:40] I MEAN, I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYONE [57:42] COMING HERE JUST TO THINK ABOUT [57:44] WHETHER WE ARE PAID FAIRLY FOR [57:49] $17 AN HOUR, BUT I LOOK AT SOME [57:50] COMMENT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I [57:53] THINK IF WE DON'T SPEAK UP, [57:55] OKAY, LET'S JUST IMAGINE IN TWO [57:58] YEARS, I'M GOING TO RUN, THEY [57:59] SAY OKAY, SUCH AND SUCH PERSON [58:00] GAVE THEMSELF A RAISE. [58:05] AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE LOOKING [58:08] BAD WHILE YOU RAN -- SEEKING [58:09] FOR RE-ELECTION. [58:10] AND I HAVE TO SPEAK UP. [58:12] SO I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT [58:13] THAT. [58:14] AND I THINK THAT IF YOU RESPECT [58:15] YOUR JOB, YOU PUT YOUR HEART [58:20] INTO THAT, YOU NEED TO BE HONEST [58:23] ABOUT EVERYONE, WHETHER YOU'RE [58:25] BEING -- EVEN BEING TREATED WITH [58:26] RESPECT ABOUT YOUR JOB. [58:28] SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. [58:32] >> Mayor Salwan: SO I HEARD A [58:33] COUPLE OF THINGS. [58:35] SOME FOLKS WANTED TO POSTPONE [58:37] IT, SOME WANTED TO GO AHEAD WITH [58:38] IT. [58:40] SOME WANTED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT [58:41] NUMBERS. [58:42] SO IF I COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK [58:43] OR A MOTION. [58:44] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL. [58:46] >> Councilmember Campbell: WELL, [58:49] I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ANOTHER [58:50] COMMENT, I WAS SITTING HERE [58:53] LISTENING TO US AS WE TALK, AND [58:56] I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE [58:58] CAN BE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS [59:01] TO HAVE HEALTHCARE, AND YOU [59:04] KNOW, I'M FORTUNATE THAT I HAVE [59:07] A GREAT PLAN FROM MY REGULAR [59:09] WORK AND SO -- AND I'VE ALWAYS [59:11] HAD GREAT HEALTH INSURANCE AND [59:14] SO -- AND I DO THINK THAT IT IS [59:17] IMPORTANT THAT THAT BENEFIT BE [59:18] OFFERED TO THE CITY [59:19] COUNCILMEMBERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE [59:20] IT. [59:24] MAYBE YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO COME ON [59:26] BOARD, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO [59:28] HAVE A REALLY GOOD HEALTH [59:29] INSURANCE PLAN. [59:32] I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WITHOUT HEALTH [59:33] INSURANCE. [59:36] I'M PUTTING ON MY -- MY DIRECTOR [59:39] HAT NOW, AND REALLY THINKING [59:42] ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT [59:44] HAVING AN ADEQUATE HEALTH [59:45] INSURANCE PLAN AND WHAT THAT [59:46] MIGHT MEAN. [59:50] AND I DON'T THINK $1,400 A [59:55] MONTH IS SOMETHING THAT'S [59:56] UNREASONABLE TO GIVE TO SOMEONE [59:59] TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ADEQUATE [1:00:01] HEALTH PLAN, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES [1:00:04] DENTAL AND VISION, SO IT'S A [1:00:07] FULL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT [1:00:10] WOULD HELP THEM, BUT I DO THINK [1:00:14] IT'S A LITTLE PRICEY, BUT YOU [1:00:16] KNOW, MY IDEA IS THAT IF WE'RE [1:00:18] THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE [1:00:19] COUNCILPERSONS, IT WOULD BE [1:00:21] IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO [1:00:23] AFFORD TO HAVE ADEQUATE HEALTH [1:00:24] INSURANCE. [1:00:29] >> Mayor Salwan: I'M NOT SEEING [1:00:30] ANYBODY ELSE SO I GUESS CAN WE [1:00:32] GET A MOTION OR SOME MORE [1:00:33] FEEDBACK? [1:00:34] >> Councilmember Zhang: I'LL [1:00:35] MAKE A MOTION. [1:00:36] >> Mayor Salwan: WHAT IS YOUR [1:00:37] MOTION? [1:00:38] >> Councilmember Zhang: MOTION [1:00:39] TO APPROVE FOR THIS HEALTH [1:00:40] INSURANCE. [1:00:42] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [1:00:43] KENG. [1:00:44] SECOND? [1:00:45] OKAY. [1:00:47] MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG, [1:00:50] SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KENG. [1:00:51] BLESS VOTE. [1:00:54] PLEASE VOTE. [1:01:02] MOTION PASSES, 6 AYES, 1 NAY. [1:01:03] THANK YOU. [1:01:05] NEXT ITEM IS 5A. [1:01:17] THIS IS ADJUSTMENT TO THE [1:01:18] SALARIES OF MAYOR AND COUNCIL. [1:01:19] AGAIN, THERE'S NO FORMAL [1:01:22] PRESENTATION, JUST QUESTIONS [1:01:23] FROM COUNCILMEMBERS. [1:01:27] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL. [1:01:30] >> Councilmember Campbell: IS [1:01:32] THIS QUESTION TIME OR IS IT [1:01:33] COMMENTS? [1:01:34] >> Mayor Salwan: I WAS THINKING [1:01:35] MAYBE QUESTIONS, OPEN UP FOR THE [1:01:37] PUBLIC, AND THEN COMMENTS IF [1:01:38] THAT'S OKAY. [1:01:39] >> Councilmember Campbell: [1:01:40] OKAY. [1:01:41] I ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY [1:01:42] QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. [1:01:43] BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS. [1:01:44] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:01:45] ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY [1:01:46] ELSE? [1:01:50] SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANY [1:01:51] SPEAKERS ON THIS? [1:01:52] >> Mr. Quintanilla: WE HAVE ONE [1:01:53] SPEAKER CARD. [1:01:54] >> Mayor Salwan: LET'S HEAR FROM [1:01:55] THE SPEAKER. [1:01:56] >> Mr. Quintanilla: OUR SPEAKER [1:01:57] IS VERNITA VERMA. [1:02:09] >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR [1:02:11] BRINGING -- WORK ON THE [1:02:12] AGENDA. [1:02:15] I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED [1:02:16] ADJUSTMENT FOR A VERY SIMPLE [1:02:17] REASON. [1:02:18] ALL CITY EMPLOYEES OF CITY AND [1:02:21] CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE HERE FOR [1:02:22] ONLY ONE REASON. [1:02:23] THAT IS TO SERVE THE CITY OF [1:02:24] FREMONT. [1:02:28] IF THE CITIZENS OF FREMONT ARE [1:02:29] NOT GETTING SERVED PROPERLY, [1:02:32] THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON [1:02:33] FOR ANY EMPLOYEE OR [1:02:36] COUNCILMEMBER OR MAYOR TO GET A [1:02:37] RAISE. [1:02:42] AT LEAST TWO OF YOU HAVE VISITED [1:02:43] THE STREET I LIVE ON AND BOTH OF [1:02:44] YOU HAVE SAID TO ME THAT YOU [1:02:48] HAVE NOT SEEN ANY STREET AS BAD [1:02:49] AS MINE. [1:02:51] EVEN IF IT IS NOT THE WORST [1:02:53] STREET IN THE CITY, THERE SHOULD [1:02:55] BE NO STREET AS BAD AS MINE. [1:03:00] AS PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS ARE [1:03:02] TERRIBLE AND RAISED OVER 6 TO 8 [1:03:03] INCHES. [1:03:05] WE GET FLOODED EVERY -- EVEN IF [1:03:06] WE GET HALF INCH OF RAIN. [1:03:11] IT IS AN ADA NIGHTMARE TO WALK [1:03:12] ON OUR STREET. [1:03:14] AND I'M SAYING IT AGAIN, IT'S AN [1:03:17] ADA NIGHTMARE, WHICH MEANS [1:03:19] ANYBODY WHO IS AN ADA SUPPORTER [1:03:21] OR ANY ORGANIZATION CAN SUE THE [1:03:22] CITY AND WIN. [1:03:26] THAT BEING SAID, IF OUR CITY IS [1:03:28] NOT MANAGED WELL WITH OUR [1:03:30] PROPERTY TAX, I DO NOT THINK [1:03:31] ANYONE SHOULD GET ANY RAISE. [1:03:35] I WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO VISIT MY [1:03:36] STREET BEFORE GIVING ANYONE A [1:03:37] RAISE IN THE CITY. [1:03:38] INCLUDING YOURSELF. [1:03:42] I UNDERSTAND YOU MIGHT CALL IT A [1:03:44] TRIVIAL THING, YOU MIGHT SAY OH, [1:03:46] IT'S A SMALL NUMBER. [1:03:50] BUT IF -- I'M OPPOSING ANY [1:03:51] NUMBER FOR A SIMPLE REASON. [1:03:54] PLEASE SERVE YOUR CITY [1:03:55] CITIZENS. [1:03:56] THANK YOU. [1:03:57] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:04:01] ANY -- COMMENT TIME, FEEDBACK. [1:04:05] SINCE NOBODY IS SPEAKING, I HAVE [1:04:07] BEEN TO YOUR STREET, AND WE'VE [1:04:08] HAD SEVERAL TIMES FOLKS COME OUT [1:04:10] TO YOUR STREET TO CHECK IT OUT, [1:04:13] AND FIX IT ON THE ONE SIDE, AND [1:04:15] CONTINUE TO EVALUATE IT, BUT WE [1:04:16] HAVE MANY SUCH STREETS. [1:04:18] YOUR STREET IS NOT THE ONLY [1:04:19] ONE. [1:04:21] SO IT'S 92 SQUARE MILES. [1:04:23] WE HAVE TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE [1:04:25] STREET AND WE DID GET THE WORST [1:04:27] 100 SIDEWALKS DONE AND HOPEFULLY [1:04:29] IF WE HAVE MORE FUNDING IN THE [1:04:30] FUTURE, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THAT [1:04:31] AGAIN. [1:04:33] WE STILL OFFER THE 50/50 [1:04:34] PROGRAM. [1:04:35] SIDEWALK AND TREE. [1:04:38] SO IF YOU OR YOUR NEIGHBORS WANT [1:04:40] TO REPLACE YOUR SIDEWALK OR THE [1:04:41] TREES, THE CITIES WILL WORK WITH [1:04:42] YOU ON THAT. [1:04:45] BUT TO SAY THAT FOR THAT ONE [1:04:47] SINGLISH YOU'LL, YOU KNOW, [1:04:48] YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM [1:04:49] EVERYTHING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, [1:04:50] I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE TOO [1:04:51] FAR. [1:04:52] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL. [1:04:54] >> Councilmember Campbell: WE [1:04:56] DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? [1:04:57] >> Mayor Salwan: THAT WAS IT. [1:04:58] >> Councilmember Campbell: THAT [1:04:59] WAS IT? [1:05:00] OKAY. [1:05:01] FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I [1:05:02] REALLY JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE [1:05:05] THAT THIS PROCESS IS A [1:05:06] PROCEDURAL PROCESS TO INCREASE [1:05:10] THE SALARIES AND THAT IT'S NOT [1:05:11] SELF-DEALING. [1:05:13] THIS PROCESS FLOWS FROM EXISTING [1:05:16] MUNICIPAL CODE FORMULA, NOT A [1:05:18] DISCRETIONARY VOTE TO PASS CITY [1:05:19] COUNCIL PAY. [1:05:23] THE ORDINANCE SETS A CEILING, [1:05:24] NOT A MANDATE. [1:05:26] COUNCIL RETAINS AUTHORITY TO [1:05:28] DECLINE, DEFER OR MODIFY THE [1:05:29] ORDINANCE. [1:05:30] THE CODE ALSO GIVES THE COUNCIL [1:05:33] THE DISCRETION TO ADJUST THE [1:05:34] CPI. [1:05:35] THE FORMULA ASSUMES NORMAL [1:05:38] ECONOMIC CONDITIONS SUCH AS [1:05:39] LOCAL WAGE GROWTH, WHICH IS NOT [1:05:41] KEEPING PACE, OF COURSE, WITH [1:05:43] HOUSING, GROCERIES, INSURANCE [1:05:44] AND CHILD CARE. [1:05:46] APPROVING AN AUTOMATIC RAISE FOR [1:05:50] COUNCIL WHILE RESIDENTS ARE ALL [1:05:52] BEHIND ON RENT, STRUGGLING TO [1:05:54] KEEP PACE WITH RISING GAS COSTS, [1:05:57] FOOD COSTS, BREAKS THE BASIC [1:05:58] ALIGNMENT BETWEEN ELECTED [1:06:01] OFFICIALS AND THE VERY PEOPLE WE [1:06:02] SERVE, AND THAT GAP IS [1:06:03] CORROSIVE. [1:06:05] REGARDLESS OF THE COUNCIL'S [1:06:07] ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE [1:06:08] ORDINANCE. [1:06:11] I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO [1:06:13] DECLINE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS [1:06:15] WAGE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE COUNCIL [1:06:18] AND DEFER IT UNTIL AFTER THE [1:06:20] NOVEMBER ELECTIONS AND TO ASK [1:06:23] STAFF TO REVIEW AND RETURN WITH [1:06:26] OPTIONS FOR SUSPENDING OR [1:06:28] RESTRUCTURING THE CPI FORMULA SO [1:06:31] THAT IT MORE ACCURATELY REFLECTS [1:06:35] WHAT RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY [1:06:36] EXPERIENCES. [1:06:37] EVERY CANDIDATE WHO IS RUNNING [1:06:41] FOR OFFICE IS WALKING INTO AN [1:06:43] ELECTION SEASON WHERE [1:06:44] AFFORDABILITY IS A REAL [1:06:45] CONCERN. [1:06:50] A YES VOTE IS AN ATTACK ON THEIR [1:06:53] LIVED EXPERIENCES, AND I WILL BE [1:06:54] VOTING NO ON THIS ITEM. [1:06:57] THANK YOU, MAYOR. [1:07:01] >> Mayor Salwan: MAYBE I'LL HAVE [1:07:02] THE CITY ATTORNEY KIND OF [1:07:03] EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS AND HOW [1:07:05] THIS APPLIES. [1:07:07] AND WHEN DOES IT APPLY. [1:07:08] JUST FOR CONTEXT. [1:07:12] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: A [1:07:13] COUPLE POINTS. [1:07:16] THE FIRST IS THAT THE PROPOSAL [1:07:18] THIS EVENING IS TO CHANGE -- IS [1:07:20] TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE THAT [1:07:23] CURRENTLY SETS FORTH THE [1:07:24] METHODOLOGY FOR INCREASING [1:07:25] COUNCIL SALARIES. [1:07:28] IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T CHANGE THE [1:07:29] METHODOLOGY. [1:07:31] IT IMPLEMENTS THE METHODOLOGY. [1:07:32] WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT [1:07:33] THE ORDINANCE ALREADY SAYS AND [1:07:35] IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE [1:07:37] THIS ITEM FORWARD, IT WILL [1:07:38] INCREASE COUNCIL SALARY [1:07:40] CONSISTENT WITH THE FORMULA THAT [1:07:42] ALREADY EXISTS IN THE FREMONT [1:07:43] MUNICIPAL CODE. [1:07:45] THIS IS PART OF A PROCESS THAT [1:07:47] HAPPENS EVERY OTHER YEAR, SO THE [1:07:49] TIMING IS NOT UNIQUE OR [1:07:50] SPECIAL. [1:07:51] IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THIS IS [1:07:52] THE CURRENT YEAR AND AT THIS [1:07:55] TIME, IT'S PART OF THE CITY'S [1:07:59] OVERALL PROCESS TO CONSIDER THIS [1:08:00] POTENTIAL INCREASE SHOULD THE [1:08:03] COUNCIL DECIDE TO MOVE IT [1:08:04] FORWARD. [1:08:06] FURTHERMORE, THE CITY'S LOCAL [1:08:08] PROCESS IS MORE CONSERVATIVE [1:08:09] THAN STATE LAW. [1:08:11] THE CAP THAT EXISTS IN OUR [1:08:12] FREMONT MUNICIPAL CODE IS [1:08:13] ACTUALLY LOWER THAN WHAT STATE [1:08:16] LAW ALLOWS, SO THE COUNCIL HAS [1:08:18] BEEN MINDFUL OF ITS CONCERNS [1:08:20] REGARDING BUDGETARY IMPACTS AND [1:08:22] IMPACTS REGARDING THE PUBLIC. [1:08:24] AND THE PUBLIC'S BUDGET. [1:08:27] SO AGAIN, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE [1:08:28] FORMULA. [1:08:30] IT SIMPLY USES THE FORMULA TO [1:08:33] EFFECTUATE WHAT WOULD BE A [1:08:34] SALARY INCREASE SHOULD THE [1:08:35] COUNCIL CHOOSE TO TAKE IT AT [1:08:36] THIS TIME. [1:08:37] TIMING WISE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO [1:08:38] [1:08:42] THIS DISCUSSION, YOU EFFECTIVELY [1:08:46] HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS TO [1:08:48] INCREASE THE SALARY BECAUSE [1:08:52] YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DO THIS [1:08:53] INCREASE WHEN THERE'S GOING TO [1:08:54] BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NEW [1:08:55] COUNCILMEMBERS TO BE SEATED. [1:08:57] SO REALLY THIS EVENING IS THE [1:08:58] LAST OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE [1:09:00] THIS ITEM IF THE COUNCIL DESIRES [1:09:03] TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD SO THE [1:09:06] NEWLY ELECTED COUNCILMEMBERS AND [1:09:07] SITTING COUNCILMEMBERS THAT [1:09:08] REMAIN ON THE COUNCIL WILL BE [1:09:10] ABLE TO TAKE THIS INCREASE THIS [1:09:11] UPCOMING YEAR. [1:09:13] SO TIMING WISE, AGAIN, THIS IS [1:09:15] PART OF THE CITY'S EXISTING [1:09:18] PROCESSES AND IT'S CONSISTENT [1:09:19] WITH STATE LAW. [1:09:20] >> Mayor Salwan: I THINK WHAT [1:09:21] I'M HEARING IS WE HAVE TO ACT [1:09:23] NOW FOR THE COUNCIL THAT'S [1:09:26] ELECTED IN NOVEMBER TO RECEIVE [1:09:27] THIS SALARY INCREASE. [1:09:28] IT'S NOT IMMEDIATE, CORRECT? [1:09:29] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: [1:09:30] CORRECT. [1:09:31] >> Mayor Salwan: AND IF IT'S NOT [1:09:36] DONE NOW, YOU CAN'T COME BACK IN [1:09:37] JANUARY AND SAY WE NEED TO DO [1:09:38] THIS, CORRECT? [1:09:40] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: CORRECT [1:09:41] WITH ONE EBBS EPTION. [1:09:43] EXCEPTION. [1:09:45] THIS APPLIES TO COUNCILMEMBERS. [1:09:47] THERE'S A SEPARATE STATUTE THAT [1:09:49] DISCUSSES COMPENSATION FOR THE [1:09:50] MAYOR, BUT CITIES TYPICALLY DO [1:09:52] WHAT FREMONT DOES HERE WHICH IS [1:09:53] THEY CONSIDER ALL INCREASES AT THE SAME TIME. [1:09:56] OTHERWISE THE MAYOR'S SUMMARY IS [1:09:57] ACCURATE. [1:09:59] >> Mayor Salwan: SO IF IT'S NOT [1:10:01] PASSED, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO [1:10:02] WAIT UNTIL 2028? [1:10:04] OKAY. [1:10:05] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: [1:10:06] CORRECT. [1:10:07] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [1:10:08] COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN. [1:10:09] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: [1:10:10] THANK YOU. [1:10:14] FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED BY [1:10:15] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL, I WOULD [1:10:16] LIKE TO SECOND THIS MOTION, AND [1:10:18] I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK KIND OF [1:10:20] A -- PROBABLY A SILLY QUESTION [1:10:21] BUT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE [1:10:22] CHANGE THE MUNICIPAL CODE SO [1:10:24] THAT IT MATCHES UP WITH WHEN WE [1:10:25] DO OUR BUDGET? [1:10:26] INSTEAD OF ELECTION TIME? [1:10:33] ANYBODY KNOW? [1:10:34] >> Mayor Salwan: YES, SIR. [1:10:37] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: LEGALLY [1:10:38] SPEAKING, YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR [1:10:39] ORDINANCE AT ANY TIME. [1:10:40] THE LIMIT IS UPON WHEN THE [1:10:42] INCREASE CAN BE EFFECTUATED. [1:10:45] SO IF YOU DO IT NEXT YEAR, IF [1:10:47] YOU UPDATE THE ORDINANCE NEXT [1:10:48] YEAR DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE, IT [1:10:50] WILL BE AN UPDATED ORDINANCE, [1:10:52] BUT SALARY INCREASES COULD NOT [1:10:53] BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL NOVEMBER [1:10:54] 2028. [1:10:57] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: WHY [1:10:58] IS THAT? [1:10:59] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: STATE [1:11:02] LAW DOESN'T ALLOW INCREASES TO [1:11:04] OCCUR UNTIL NEWLY ELECTED [1:11:05] COUNCILMEMBERS ARE SEATED. [1:11:09] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: SO [1:11:10] COULD WE POSSIBLY REVIEW IT [1:11:12] DURING BUDGET TIME AND APPROVE [1:11:13] THAT WITH OUR BUDGET AT THAT [1:11:14] TIME SO THAT IT'S NOT IN THE [1:11:18] FACE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO [1:11:20] BE ELECTED OR TRYING -- [1:11:21] CAMPAIGNING OR TRYING TO SERVE [1:11:22] AND HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION [1:11:26] LIKE THAT IS VERY -- YEAH, IT [1:11:28] LOOKS VERY SELF-SERVING. [1:11:29] >> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: YOU [1:11:31] COULD DEFER THIS CONVERSATION [1:11:32] UNTIL NEXT SUMMER. [1:11:34] THAT'S NOT PRESCRIBED IN ANY WAY [1:11:35] BY STATE LAW. [1:11:36] YOU COULD DO THAT. [1:11:37] AND IF YOU DECIDE TO UPDATE THE [1:11:40] ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME TO [1:11:42] INCREASE COUNCIL SALARY, THAT [1:11:46] CAN OCCUR NEXT SUMMER, BUT THE [1:11:48] INCREASES WOULD NOT BE EFFECTIVE [1:11:50] UNTIL THE NEXT CYCLE OF NEWLY [1:11:51] ELECTED COUNCILMEMBERS ARE [1:11:54] SEATED, WHICH IS NOVEMBER -- [1:11:55] WELL -- NOVEMBER 2028. [1:11:58] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:12:00] SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD [1:12:01] UNDERSTANDING. [1:12:03] SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY [1:12:06] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL TO REJECT [1:12:08] OR DENY THE SALARY INCREASE. [1:12:12] WE HAVE A SECOND BY [1:12:13] COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN. [1:12:14] IF THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTE MOTION, [1:12:15] I CAN -- WE CAN -- YES? [1:12:24] >> Councilmember Shao: I WOULD [1:12:28] MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO [1:12:30] ACCEPT THE STAFF'S [1:12:31] RECOMMENDATION AND GO FORWARD [1:12:33] WITH THIS YEAR'S CYCLE WITHOUT [1:12:34] ANY DELAY. [1:12:35] >> Mayor Salwan: SO MOVED BY [1:12:36] COUNCILMEMBER SHAO. [1:12:37] IS THERE A SECOND? [1:12:39] >> Councilmember Zhang: I [1:12:40] SECOND. [1:12:41] >> Mayor Salwan: SECONDED BY [1:12:42] COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG. [1:12:43] SO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS [1:12:46] ACTED ON PRIOR TO THE OTHER [1:12:47] MOTION. [1:12:48] SO AGAIN MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER [1:12:50] SHAO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER [1:12:51] ZHANG. [1:12:53] THIS IS TO SUPPORT STAFF [1:12:54] RECOMMENDATION. [1:12:55] OKAY? [1:12:56] ALL RIGHT. [1:12:57] PLEASE VOTE. [1:12:58] >> Councilmember Zhang: HOW DO [1:12:59] WE DO THAT? [1:13:00] >> Mayor Salwan: SO IF YOU -- [1:13:01] OKAY, SO WHAT HAPPENED IS [1:13:02] COUNCILMEMBER SHAO MADE A [1:13:03] SUBSTITUTE MOTION WHICH MEANS HE [1:13:06] WANTS TO SUPPORT THE STAFF [1:13:08] RECOMMENDATION -- [1:13:09] >> Councilmember Zhang: SO WE'RE [1:13:10] GOING VOTE ON SHAO'S SUBSTITUTE [1:13:11] MOTION? [1:13:12] >> Mayor Salwan: YEAH. [1:13:13] AND I WAS GOING TO JUST SUGGEST, [1:13:16] IF IT'S OKAY, INSTEAD OF 4%, [1:13:18] COULD YOU DO 3% SO IT'S IN [1:13:19] PARITY WITH THE STAFF RAISES? [1:13:21] IS THAT SOMETHING YOU -- [1:13:22] >> Councilmember Shao: YES, I [1:13:24] CERTAINLY CAN MODIFY MY ORIGINAL [1:13:26] MOTION TO CHANGE THE PERCENTAGE [1:13:30] OF INCREASE FROM 4% TO 3%, AND [1:13:32] STILL GO WITH THE CYCLE AND [1:13:35] WITHOUT ANY DELAY OR ANY IMPACT [1:13:38] ON THE INCOMING CITY [1:13:39] COUNCILMEMBERS' SALARY. [1:13:40] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:13:42] AND THAT'S VERY GENEROUS OF YOU [1:13:44] BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE HERE. [1:13:46] >> Councilmember Shao: RIGHT, [1:13:47] FOR SOMEONE ELSE. [1:13:48] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [1:13:49] ZHANG, DOES YOUR SECOND STILL [1:13:50] STAND? [1:13:51] >> Councilmember Zhang: [1:13:52] RELUCTANTLY BECAUSE I WANTED THE [1:13:55] PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THIS IS [1:13:58] EVERY TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE [1:14:01] ARE GETTING THE CITY COUNCIL [1:14:03] EVALUATION, AND TO COME OUT WITH [1:14:04] INFLATION, ET CETERA. [1:14:05] SO IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS, IT'S [1:14:06] NOT EVERY YEAR. [1:14:08] SO IF YOU LOOK AT IF YOU [1:14:10] AVERAGED OUT, EVERY ONE YEAR, [1:14:11] YOU WILL GET 2%. [1:14:13] I MEAN, I DON'T DO THE MATH BUT [1:14:15] I REALLY THINK -- I MEAN, I [1:14:17] WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE FOR ALL [1:14:23] CITY COUNCILS TO USE THIS [1:14:26] CAREFULNESS AND STUDY TO FOCUS [1:14:28] ON MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES, [1:14:31] BECAUSE TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING [1:14:33] WHICH REQUIRES A LARGE AMOUNT OF [1:14:36] MONEY FOR CITIES' [1:14:38] INFRASTRUCTURE, BIG DECISION, [1:14:40] AND I THINK -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT [1:14:41] ELSE TO SAY. [1:14:43] I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A [1:14:45] BIG PICTURE AND BIG VISION FOR [1:14:46] OUR CITY. [1:14:50] AND IF WE DON'T EVALUATE OUR [1:14:52] OWN WORK, NOBODY IS GOING TO DO [1:14:53] THAT. [1:14:55] AND I ALSO THINK MAYBE IN THE [1:14:57] FUTURE, IF SOMEBODY THINKS WE [1:15:00] ARE OVERLY PAID AND THEY CAN [1:15:03] VOTE TO GET THEIR SALARY [1:15:04] INCREASE AWAY. [1:15:05] ALL RIGHT. [1:15:06] SO -- [1:15:07] >> Mayor Salwan: JUST TO [1:15:08] CONFIRM, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE [1:15:09] 3%? [1:15:10] >> Councilmember Zhang: [1:15:11] RELUCTANTLY. [1:15:12] I WOULD ACTUALLY PREFER -- [1:15:13] >> Mayor Salwan: BUT YOU STILL [1:15:14] SECOND, THOUGH? [1:15:15] >> Councilmember Zhang: SECOND, [1:15:16] YES. [1:15:17] >> Mayor Salwan: PLEASE VOTE. [1:15:18] OH, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER [1:15:19] KIMBERLIN. [1:15:20] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: SO I [1:15:21] THINK TIMING IS EVERYTHING AND I [1:15:22] THINK THAT'S WHAT MY PROBLEM [1:15:24] WITH THIS IS, ALIGNING WITH [1:15:25] COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL, THAT YOU [1:15:30] KNOW, WE HAD JUST MADE ALL [1:15:32] THESE CUTS THAT WE CAN'T BRING [1:15:34] BACK, WE'VE HAD TO REALLY [1:15:35] NEGOTIATE -- IT TOOK A LONG [1:15:36] TIME, A LOT OF NEGOTIATION WITH [1:15:39] OUR UNIONS, AND WE STILL HAVE [1:15:41] ONE THAT'S OPEN AND NOT [1:15:43] FINISHED, AND IT JUST DOESN'T [1:15:44] FEEL -- IT FEELS LIKE THE TIMING [1:15:46] IS WRONG, IT FEELS LIKE IT SENDS [1:15:48] THE WRONG MESSAGE. [1:15:51] I THINK THAT YES, WE DO VALUE [1:15:53] WHAT WE DO, BUT THE TIMING IS [1:15:55] EVERYTHING AND WE REALLY NEED TO [1:15:57] SHOW OUR PEOPLE, OUR COMMUNITY, [1:15:59] WE'RE WITH THEM. [1:16:01] I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON [1:16:03] SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GOING TO [1:16:04] SAY ABOUT THAT. [1:16:05] >> Mayor Salwan: WHILE YOU THINK [1:16:07] OF THAT, IT WILL ONLY AFFECT THE [1:16:10] PEOPLE THAT ARE ELECTED AT THAT [1:16:11] TIME. [1:16:12] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: AND [1:16:13] IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY SO I DO [1:16:14] HOPE PEOPLE -- WE KNOW IT'S NOT [1:16:17] A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S THE [1:16:19] ACTION THAT -- FOR ME, ACTION [1:16:21] SPEAKS LOUDER FOR WORDS SO FOR [1:16:23] ME, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH [1:16:25] THAT AND I WILL VERY STRONGLY [1:16:26] CONSIDER DONATING MY PORTION TO [1:16:27] TRI-CITY VOLUNTEERS. [1:16:29] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:16:30] WITH THAT, LET'S VOTE. [1:16:38] MOTION PASSES, FOUR AYES, THREE [1:16:39] NAYS. [1:16:40] ALL RIGHT. [1:16:41] THANK YOU SO MUCH, STAFF. [1:16:48] NEXT WE HAVE A COUNCIL REFERRAL [1:16:49] FROM COUNCILMEMBER KENG. [1:16:51] >> Councilmember Keng: THANK [1:16:52] YOU, MAYOR. [1:16:56] COULD I HAVE OUR [1:16:57] DIRECTOR UP HERE? [1:16:59] I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL BE [1:17:02] ALLOWING QUESTIONS. [1:17:15] >> City Mgr. Shackelford: STAFF [1:17:18] CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT LIMITED [1:17:19] QUESTIONS. [1:17:21] WE HAVEN'T DONE ANALYSIS OR [1:17:23] ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT -- [1:17:24] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [1:17:26] KENG, I THINK YOU SHOULD PRESENT [1:17:27] YOUR REFERRAL AND THEN IF NEEDED [1:17:28] STAFF CAN CHIME IN. [1:17:29] >> Councilmember Keng: OKAY. [1:17:30] ALL RIGHT. [1:17:32] SO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND [1:17:33] COLLEAGUES. [1:17:35] I'M BRINGING THIS REFERRAL [1:17:37] FORWARD BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS I [1:17:38] HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IN [1:17:40] NORTH FREMONT ABOUT THE NEED FOR [1:17:41] A COMMUNITY SPACE CLOSER TO [1:17:42] HOME. [1:17:44] DISTRICT 1 IS A LARGE AND [1:17:46] GROWING PART OF OUR CITY, YET [1:17:48] RESIDENTS IN NORTH FREMONT HAVE [1:17:50] LIMITED ACCESS TO CITY COMMUNITY [1:17:54] FACILITIES IN THEIR IMMEDIATE [1:17:55] AREA. [1:17:56] FOR MANY FAMILIES AND ESPECIALLY [1:17:57] FOR OUR SENIORS, PARTICIPATING [1:17:59] IN PROGRAMS OFTEN MEANS [1:18:02] TRAVELING TO CENTRAL OR SOUTH [1:18:03] FREMONT. [1:18:04] THAT DISTANCE CAN BECOME A REAL [1:18:05] BARRIER TO PARTICIPATION. [1:18:08] OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS WE [1:18:10] HAVE RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT [1:18:12] AMOUNT OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM [1:18:13] RESIDENTS SUPPORTING THIS [1:18:14] REFERRAL. [1:18:17] WHAT I'VE FOUND ESPECIALLY [1:18:18] MEANINGFUL IS THE RANGE OF NEEDS [1:18:20] PEOPLE HAVE IDENTIFIED. [1:18:21] PARENTS TALKED ABOUT [1:18:22] AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS, SUMMER [1:18:25] CAMPS AND YOUTH RECREATION, [1:18:27] SENIORS ASK FOR ACTIVITIES, [1:18:30] WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND PLACES TO [1:18:31] SOCIALIZE. [1:18:32] OTHERS TALKED ABOUT CLASSES, [1:18:33] CULTURAL ACTIVITIES, COMMUNITY [1:18:35] MEETINGS AND SIMPLY HAVING A [1:18:37] PLACE WHERE NEIGHBORS CAN GATHER [1:18:39] AND CONNECT. [1:18:43] ONE RESIDENT EVEN SHARED A [1:18:44] CHILDHOOD MEMORY OF GOING TO THE [1:18:45] SMALL COMMUNITY ROOM AT [1:18:48] NORTHGATE PARK FOR ACTIVITIES [1:18:49] AND ARTS AND CRAFTS DESCRIBING [1:18:51] THOSE EXPERIENCES AS THE [1:18:52] HIGHLIGHT OF HER WEEK AND SAYING [1:18:55] THAT SHE WOULD LOVE FOR TODAY'S [1:18:56] GENERATION OF CHILDREN AND TEAMS [1:18:59] TO HAVE THOSE SAME [1:19:00] OPPORTUNITIES. [1:19:02] I THINK THAT REALLY CAPTURES [1:19:07] WHAT THIS REFERRAL IS ABOUT. [1:19:10] A COMMUNITY CENTER IS MORNING A [1:19:12] BUILDING, IT IS A INFRASTRUCTURE [1:19:13] FOR COMMUNITY. [1:19:14] CHILDREN GROW UP, SENIORS STAY [1:19:16] ACTIVE AND CONNECTED, FAMILIES [1:19:17] PARTICIPATE TOGETHER AND [1:19:18] NEIGHBORS FROM DIFFERENT [1:19:20] BACKGROUNDS GET TO KNOW ONE [1:19:21] ANOTHER. [1:19:22] I ALSO WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR [1:19:23] ABOUT THE REFERRAL, IT'S ASKING [1:19:25] FOR COUNCIL TO DO TONIGHT. [1:19:27] IT IS NOT ASKING FOR US TO [1:19:29] APPROVE CONSTRUCTION OF A [1:19:30] COMMUNITY CENTER OR COMMIT THE [1:19:33] CITY TO A PARTICULAR SITE OR [1:19:34] EXPENDITURE. [1:19:37] IT IS ASKING FOR US TO TAKE THE [1:19:39] FIRST RESPONSIBLE STEP TO DIRECT [1:19:41] STAFF TO ANALYZE WHAT IS [1:19:42] POSSIBLE. [1:19:44] THAT ANALYSIS SHOULD LOOK AT [1:19:46] POTENTIAL LOCATIONS, THE TYPES [1:19:49] OF PROGRAM AND SERVICES OUR [1:19:50] RESIDENTS NEED, PRELIMINARY [1:19:51] CONSTRUCTION COSTS, POSSIBLE [1:19:54] FUNDING SOURCES AND PARTNERSHIPS [1:19:56] AND HOW THE FACILITY COULD BE [1:19:59] OPERATED SUSTAINABLY OVER THE [1:20:00] LONG RUN. [1:20:03] WE HAVE ALSO HEARD SOME [1:20:05] INTERESTING IDEAS FROM THE [1:20:07] COMMUNITY ABOUT POTENTIAL [1:20:11] LOCATIONS AND USES BUT I THINK [1:20:12] ULTIMATELY THIS REFERRAL IS [1:20:15] ABOUT EQUITABLE ACCESS TO CITY [1:20:17] SERVICES AND PLANNING FOR FUTURE [1:20:19] OF NORTH FREMONT. [1:20:21] I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL [1:20:23] SUPPORT TAKING THIS FIRST STEP [1:20:26] SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE [1:20:28] FEASIBILITY, COST AND [1:20:30] OPPORTUNITIES ENGAGING THE [1:20:32] COMMUNITY AND BRING BACK [1:20:33] REALISTIC OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO [1:20:34] CONSIDER. [1:20:35] THANK YOU. [1:20:40] ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMEMBER [1:20:41] KENG? [1:20:45] GO AHEAD. [1:20:46] >> City Mgr. Shackelford: THANK [1:20:47] YOU. [1:20:48] SO THANK YOU FOR THE REFERRAL, [1:20:51] AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS [1:20:52] OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND THE [1:20:53] COUNCIL AND SHARE WITH COMMUNITY [1:20:57] MEMBERS WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE OF [1:20:59] THIS BUT FOR QUITE SOME TIME [1:21:04] NOW, OUR STAFF AND COMMUNITY [1:21:05] SERVICES HAS BEEN WORKING ON [1:21:07] ACQUIRING MORE PARKLAND, SO WE [1:21:08] WORK WITH A REAL ESTATE [1:21:11] CONSULTANT WHO HELPS US IDENTIFY [1:21:12] THESE OPPORTUNITIES. [1:21:13] ALL THROUGHOUT FREMONT, [1:21:15] INCLUDING NORTH FREMONT. [1:21:18] AND WE HAVE HEARD THIS COMMENT [1:21:20] ABOUT NORTH FREMONT MANY TIMES [1:21:21] BEFORE. [1:21:23] I THINK IT'S NORTHGATE PARK, [1:21:27] KIM, WHERE WE HAVE THE [1:21:29] ROOF, KIND OF LIKE THE ARBOR [1:21:31] AREA, SO THAT AREA, THAT [1:21:35] LOCATION WILL BE PROGRAMMED, YOU [1:21:37] KNOW, FOR THE YOUTH COMING UP. [1:21:40] SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT AND [1:21:43] REMIND FOLKS THAT THAT WORK IS [1:21:46] HAPPENING, IT'S ONGOING, WE HAVE [1:21:51] A LOT OF OTHER HIGH PRIORITY [1:21:53] PARK ACQUISITIONS THAT WE'RE [1:21:55] WORKING ON, WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION [1:21:56] OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AT [1:21:59] CENTRAL PARK, AND SO STAFF [1:22:02] RESOURCES ARE DEDICATED TO THOSE [1:22:05] PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AMONG MANY [1:22:06] OTHERS. [1:22:09] SO I JUST WANT TO SET THAT STAGE [1:22:11] BEFORE THE COUNCIL MAKES A [1:22:15] DECISION ON HOW TO DIRECT [1:22:17] STAFF RESOURCES BECAUSE, YOU [1:22:19] KNOW, FOR EVERYTHING WE ADD, [1:22:21] SOMETHING HAS TO GO. [1:22:24] AND AGAIN, MY MAIN POINT IS TO [1:22:26] ASSURE THE COUNCIL THAT THIS [1:22:28] WORK IS HAPPENING ON A [1:22:29] CONTINUOUS BASIS. [1:22:33] >> Mayor Salwan: SO YOU MAKE TWO [1:22:34] POINTS. [1:22:35] ONE PART IS THE SERVICES, THE [1:22:36] OTHER PART IS THE FACILITY, SO [1:22:37] YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK ON BOTH. [1:22:40] SEEING NO QUESTIONS, MAYBE LET'S [1:22:41] GO TO COMMENTS THEN. [1:22:42] COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN. [1:22:44] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: [1:22:45] THANK YOU, MAYOR. [1:22:46] AND -- [1:22:47] >> Mayor Salwan: IF EVERYBODY [1:22:48] COULD JUST HIT THE BUTTON JUST [1:22:50] SO WE CAN KEEP THIS GOING? [1:22:51] YEAH. [1:22:52] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: SO I [1:22:53] JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M HAPPY TO [1:22:54] SEE THIS BROUGHT FORWARD. [1:22:55] I'VE BEEN HEARING FOR AT LEAST [1:22:58] THE LAST 10 YEARS HOW PEOPLE IN [1:23:00] NORTH FREMONT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE [1:23:01] ON AN ISLAND, THEY'RE NOT [1:23:02] CONNECTED WITH THE REST OF [1:23:03] FREMONT. [1:23:06] AND I DO REALIZE THAT NOW MAY [1:23:09] NOT BE TIME TO ASK FOR THIS BUT [1:23:11] IF WE DON'T ASK FOR IT AT SOME [1:23:12] TIME AND DON'T START WORKING ON [1:23:14] IT SO MAYBE THIS REFERRAL CAN BE [1:23:15] ON A SLOWER TRACK OR SOMETHING [1:23:17] BUT TO JUST GET IT ON THE RADAR [1:23:19] AND GET IT WORKING, EVEN IF IT [1:23:21] WORKS SLOWLY, SO THAT IT STAYS [1:23:24] ON THE RADAR, SO THAT WOULD BE [1:23:25] MY FEEDBACK. [1:23:28] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [1:23:31] ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN? [1:23:32] COUNCILMEMBER SHAO? [1:23:35] >> Councilmember Shao: THOUSAND, [1:23:36] MR. MAYOR. [1:23:38] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [1:23:42] IDEALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE [1:23:46] COMMUNITY CENTER SET UP IN VERY [1:23:47] STRATEGICALLY PLACED LOCATIONS [1:23:48] WHERE JUST LIKE OUR PARKS, WE [1:23:50] HAVE A SLOGAN LIKE WITHIN 10 [1:23:51] MINUTES WALK, YOU CAN WALK TO A [1:23:53] PARK, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SEE, [1:23:55] YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE [1:24:00] COMMUNITY CENTERS SPREAD OUT [1:24:03] THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THAT THE [1:24:04] CITY COUNCILMEMBER REPRESENTING [1:24:09] DISTRICT 4, I -- MISSION SAN [1:24:10] JOSÉ DOESN'T HAVE A COMMUNITY [1:24:13] CENTER, AND RIGHT NOW AS WE [1:24:17] KNOW, THE CITY IS FOCUSING ON [1:24:20] THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER IN [1:24:21] CENTRAL PARK, AND BECAUSE OF THE [1:24:25] LACK OF FUNDING, WE HAVE CHANGED [1:24:28] THE WHOLE PROJECT INTO TWO [1:24:29] PHASES, PENDING FUTURE FUNDING [1:24:30] FOR THE SECOND PHASE. [1:24:34] THAT NOT ONLY SHOWED FLEXIBILITY [1:24:37] IN OUR PLANNING, BUT ALSO SHOWS [1:24:38] THE REALITY THAT WE JUST DON'T [1:24:39] HAVE FUNDING. [1:24:42] TALKING ABOUT WHICH WE HAVE A [1:24:43] PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT [1:24:47] AND THEN THE NEW CITY HALL AND [1:24:50] ALL THOSE -- THEY ONLY EXIST ON [1:24:51] PAPER. [1:24:52] AND HOW MANY YEARS HAVE PASSED? [1:24:56] NOT EVEN A PENNY HAS BEEN PUT [1:24:58] INTO THAT DIRECTION. [1:25:04] SO I AGREE, YOU KNOW, IT IS [1:25:05] IMPORTANT TO DO SOME STUDY AND [1:25:07] SOME RESEARCH AND EVENTUALLY PUT [1:25:08] SOMETHING ON PAPER. [1:25:12] BUT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE FACING [1:25:13] AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, [1:25:16] IN THE PAST, EVEN IF LET'S JUST [1:25:20] SAY THE STAFF COMES UP WITH A [1:25:21] PLAN, THAT'S JUST A PLAN. [1:25:25] AND THAT'S STILL FAR FROM [1:25:26] REALITY. [1:25:29] GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT [1:25:34] THE STAFF HAS ON HAND, I [1:25:36] JUST WANT TO SEE, I HAVE A [1:25:37] QUESTION WHETHER IT IS URGENT [1:25:39] FOR THIS REFERRAL OR NOT. [1:25:42] THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. [1:25:46] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:25:48] I THINK YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A [1:25:49] QUESTION IN YOUR MIND, CORRECT? [1:25:51] >> Councilmember Shao: WHETHER [1:25:53] WE HAVE TO DO IT IN LIKE SAY [1:25:55] WITHIN HALF AN HOUR -- A YEAR TO [1:25:58] COME UP WITH SOMETHING, OR WE [1:26:02] CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT ON [1:26:06] EVERYONE'S MIND AND THEN WHEN [1:26:09] WE SEE A RAY OF LIGHT FURTHER IN [1:26:13] THE HORIZON, YOU KNOW, AND OUR [1:26:17] FISCAL CONDITION GETS IMPROVED, [1:26:19] MORE CERTAINTY IN OUR FUTURE [1:26:21] FINANCE, MAYBE THAT'S A TIME [1:26:23] WHEN WE REVISIT THIS TOPIC. [1:26:29] BUT I THINK [1:26:32] COUNCILMEMBER -- I THANK [1:26:33] COUNCILMEMBER KIM FOR REMINING [1:26:38] KENG FOR REMINDING US, [1:26:42] THE FIRST YEAR WE WERE ELECTED [1:26:44] WHEN THIS REFERRAL WAS MADE SO [1:26:46] IT JUST SHOWS HOW SLOW IT IS FOR [1:26:47] THE WHOLE PROCESS TO GET MONEY [1:26:50] AND REALLY GET THINGS DONE IN [1:26:53] TERMS OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE [1:26:54] CONSTRUCTION. [1:27:00] SO I JUST WANT TO POSTPONE THIS [1:27:01] REFERRAL. [1:27:03] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY. [1:27:05] I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST WEIGH [1:27:06] IN. [1:27:09] I'M SUPPORTIVE OF A COMMUNITY [1:27:11] PLACE PLUS PROGRAMMING IN [1:27:12] DISTRICT 1. [1:27:13] I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN [1:27:16] ELEVATE TO ANOTHER LEVEL, IS I [1:27:17] FEEL LIKE IN THE SCHOOL [1:27:18] DISTRICT, WE HAVE LIKE THE [1:27:19] FACILITIES PLAN, AND THAT'S [1:27:22] ALWAYS LIKE A GUIDING FORCE LIKE [1:27:23] THESE ARE ALL THE NEEDS WE [1:27:24] HAVE. [1:27:25] IN THE CITY, SO WE HAVE SOME [1:27:27] THINGS THAT ARE POORLY [1:27:30] MAINTAINED, SOME THAT WE NEED TO [1:27:32] BUILD BRAND NEW. [1:27:33] IF YOU LOOK AT THIS COMMUNITY [1:27:34] CENTER, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CLOSE [1:27:36] THE COMMUNITY CENTER AT THE [1:27:37] CENTRAL PARK BEFORE WE GOT THE [1:27:38] NEW ONE BUILT. [1:27:40] SO IT WAS ON ITS LAST LEG, AND [1:27:43] THAT KIND OF SHOWS THAT WE HAVE [1:27:45] DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THINGS [1:27:50] ARE NOT COMING ALONG AS [1:27:51] WE'D LIKE. [1:27:52] WE ALSO HAVE IRVINGTON LIBRARY [1:27:54] THAT HAS SOME ISSUES WHERE IT'S [1:27:56] NOT VIABLE FOR A LIBRARY. [1:28:00] SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN [1:28:01] MAYBE HAVE LIKE A FACILITIES [1:28:04] CONDITION PLAN, LIKE ITEMIZE ALL [1:28:05] THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS WE HAVE, [1:28:08] THE COMMUNITY PLACES, AND SEE [1:28:11] HOW WE CAN, ONE, ANALYZE LIKE [1:28:14] THEIR HVAC, THEIR ROOFING, THE [1:28:15] INTERNAL COMPONENTS, AND SO [1:28:16] FORTH. [1:28:18] AND HAVE A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS [1:28:20] TO SEE WHAT CONDITION THEY'RE [1:28:21] IN. [1:28:23] AND ALSO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY [1:28:24] WORTHWHILE TO KIND OF LOOK AT [1:28:26] THE SERVICE COVERAGE GAP BECAUSE [1:28:28] THERE MAY BE -- YOU KNOW, [1:28:29] SOMETIMES EMOTIONALLY WE'LL SAY [1:28:31] YEAH, DISTRICT 1 DOESN'T HAVE [1:28:33] IT, BUT SOMETIMES, HOLD ON, [1:28:34] MAYBE IT'S THAT AREA THAT'S [1:28:35] MISSING OUT AND WE HADN'T EVEN [1:28:36] THOUGHT OF THAT. [1:28:38] SO I THINK THAT WOULD NOT BE A [1:28:39] BAD IDEA TO LOOK AT. [1:28:41] AND JUST FROM A HIGHER LEVEL, IT [1:28:43] COMES DOWN TO FUNDING, SO IF [1:28:45] LET'S SAY IN THE FUTURE WE [1:28:46] DECIDE TO DO SOME BOND OR [1:28:49] SOMETHING TO FUND THE DISTRICT 1 [1:28:51] COMMUNITY CENTER, YOU KNOW, WE [1:28:53] NEED EVERYBODY IN FREMONT TO [1:28:55] HAVE BUY-IN IN THAT. [1:28:57] SO YOU WANT PEOPLE IN DISTRICT [1:28:59] 5, IN DISTRICT 4, IN DISTRICT 3, [1:29:00] SO THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN IT [1:29:01] FOR THEM AS WELL. [1:29:05] SO LOS CERRITOS, I THINK IT'S [1:29:07] CALLED, I WENT THERE, IT LOOKED [1:29:08] LIKE IT WAS THE 1970s WITH THE [1:29:09] WOOD PANELS. [1:29:11] AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR [1:29:12] FACILITIES ARE REALLY IN BAD [1:29:13] SHAPE. [1:29:17] SO I DO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK [1:29:18] AT THAT AND A HAVE SOME DATA [1:29:19] POINTS. [1:29:20] I THINK PART OF THE STRUGGLE [1:29:21] ALSO WITH THIS REVENUE MEASURE [1:29:22] WAS WE COULDN'T REALLY DEFINE [1:29:24] WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, YOU KNOW? [1:29:27] I REMEMBER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT [1:29:29] SAID WE HAVE A BILLION DOLLARS [1:29:30] IN WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, NEGLECTED [1:29:31] NEEDS. [1:29:32] WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, YOU [1:29:33] KNOW? [1:29:35] AND SO IF WE KNOW THAT, YOU [1:29:40] KNOW, CERRITOS NEEDS THIS, THE [1:29:42] OTHER IRVINGTON LIBRARY NEEDS A [1:29:46] NEW ROOF OR WHATEVER, I THINK AT [1:29:48] LEAST WE CAN PLAN FOR THAT, SO [1:29:51] THAT WAY IT'S NOT LIKE A ONE OFF [1:29:52] LIKE TOMORROW COUNCILMEMBER [1:29:53] ZHANG DOESN'T SAY I NEED A [1:29:54] MISSION SAN JOSÉ COMMUNITY [1:29:55] CENTER. [1:29:56] OR -- SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I [1:29:58] WOULD TRY TO LOOK AT, IS HOW DO [1:30:02] WE NOT ONLY LOOK AT [1:30:03] DISTRICT 1, OVERALL [1:30:04] COMPREHENSIVELY LOOK AT THAT. [1:30:05] I THINK THAT WOULD BE RATHER [1:30:07] HELPFUL, WHETHER WE DO A REVENUE [1:30:08] MEASURE THROUGH SALES TAX OR A [1:30:10] BOND OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEN [1:30:11] IT'S TANGIBLE FOR PEOPLE. [1:30:13] I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3, AND I'M [1:30:15] GOING TO -- MY COMMUNITY CENTER [1:30:18] IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED. [1:30:19] I'M IN DISTRICT 1, I'M GOING TO [1:30:20] GET A ROBUST COMMUNITY CENTER. [1:30:22] AND THEN IT'S REAL, IT'S NOT [1:30:24] JUST SOMETHING ON PAPER THAT WE [1:30:25] LIKE TO SEE SOMEDAY, IT'S [1:30:27] SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, WE CAN GO [1:30:29] OUT AND SAY THESE ARE THE NEEDS [1:30:30] WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. [1:30:31] SO SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE ALL OF [1:30:32] US TO THINK ABOUT AND I FEEL [1:30:33] LIKE SOMETHING -- MAYBE ONE [1:30:37] THING WE HAVE [1:30:40] THAT IS MORE THAN THE CITY [1:30:41] MANAGER WANTS TO HEAR. [1:30:44] I'LL HAVE HER WEIGH IN ANY FEET [1:30:46] BACK OR CONCERNS. [1:30:49] WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP, YEAH, [1:30:51] YES, SIR. [1:30:52] >> Karena Shackelford: THANK [1:30:56] YOU, MAYOR SALWAN. [1:30:58] SO THE FACILITIES PLAN THAT YOU [1:31:01] SPEAK OF, SO YES, WE DO HAVE [1:31:02] ONE. [1:31:03] AND WE WILL BE UPDATING IT. [1:31:06] I THINK IT WAS LAST UPDATED [1:31:07] SEVERAL YEARS AGO. [1:31:09] SO YOUR POINT ON THAT IS WELL [1:31:10] TAKEN. [1:31:11] AND THEN AS FAR AS PARKS AND [1:31:14] COMMUNITIES CENTERS, I THINK THE [1:31:17] PARKS MASTER PLAN IT DOES [1:31:18] EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE [1:31:19] SUGGESTING IN TERMS OF [1:31:22] IDENTIFYING AREAS WHERE WE NEED [1:31:25] MORE RECREATION AND COMMUNITY [1:31:26] AREAS. [1:31:27] SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS [1:31:28] ALREADY IN PLACE. [1:31:30] BUT IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO, YOU [1:31:31] KNOW, TO UPDATE THINGS. [1:31:35] SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. [1:31:37] AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD [1:31:38] POINTS. [1:31:41] AND SOME WORK IS ALREADY DONE [1:31:43] AND SOME WORK IS UNDERWAY. [1:31:44] >> Mayor Salwan: GOOD. [1:31:45] I TRIED TO LOOK UP THE FACILITY [1:31:47] PLAN, I COULDN'T FIND ONE. [1:31:49] AND THE PARK MASTER PLAN, IT IS [1:31:51] JUST A HIGH LEVEL NEEDS BUT I [1:31:52] DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN FLUSHED [1:31:54] IDENTITY, LOOKING AT THE [1:31:58] ROOFING, THE HVAC, THE [1:31:59] STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS. [1:32:01] IF WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT [1:32:04] DEEPER, WE HAVE 100,000 NEEDED [1:32:07] HERE, WE HAVE 50 NEEDED HERE, [1:32:09] THAT CAN BE MORE TANGIBLE. [1:32:11] I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS MORE [1:32:14] WILLING TO SPEND MONEY WHEN THEY [1:32:15] KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO [1:32:17] GO, RATHER THAN OKAY, THEY ARE [1:32:19] GOING TO MAKE MORE MONEY FOR [1:32:21] SALARIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. [1:32:23] THIS IS ME TALKING OUTLOUD. [1:32:27] I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE LONG [1:32:28] TERM VISION, RATHER THAN THE [1:32:31] ONE OFF REFERRAL. [1:32:33] TRYING TO GET THINGS DONE. [1:32:35] IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE SPEAKERS [1:32:39] AND COME BACK OR SPEAK NOW? [1:32:41] >> Councilmember Zhang: YES, [1:32:43] FROM WHAT YOU SAID, REMIND ME [1:32:45] WHEN I WAS WORKING IN THE SCHOOL [1:32:47] DISTRIBUTE AND WE PASSED MEASURE [1:32:48] M. [1:32:49] WE HAVE TO COME WITH A VERY [1:32:52] DETAILED PLAN OF WHY WE NEED TO [1:32:55] HAVE THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT ATTACHED [1:32:59] TO THE MEASURE M BECAUSE WE HAVE [1:33:01] SO MANY PROGRAMS IN THE PLAN, [1:33:04] AND EACH SCHOOL AND THE [1:33:07] FACILITIES AND WHAT'S THE DOLLAR [1:33:08] AMOUNT ATTACHED TO THAT. [1:33:10] AND THAT WOULD CONVINCE THE [1:33:14] CITIZEN TO PASS THE MEASURE. [1:33:17] IRTHINK IF WE WANT TO MOVE [1:33:19] FORWARD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE [1:33:21] THING WE HAVE TO START THERE. [1:33:23] I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT THAT TO [1:33:27] WORK ON THE FACILITIES PLAN AND [1:33:28] THE PARK RECREATION UPDATE. [1:33:30] AND THEN WE CAN LOOK OVERALL [1:33:32] WHICH PLACE WE CAN PUT, OF [1:33:34] COURSE I KNOW DISTRICT 1 IS IN [1:33:35] NEED. [1:33:37] BUT ALSO MY SECOND THOUGHT IS [1:33:39] WITH THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN [1:33:40] CENTER, IS IN USE AND WE'RE [1:33:42] GOING TO BUILD A NEW ONE AND [1:33:44] THEN THAT'S GOING TO IN TWO [1:33:45] YEARS RIGHT? [1:33:47] WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP MORE [1:33:48] CAPACITIES. [1:33:49] SO WHETHER THAT WOULD ALSO SOLVE [1:33:50] SOME OF THE ISSUES. [1:33:51] YES. [1:33:52] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, SO I [1:33:54] SEE TWO MORE COUNCILMEMBERS WANT [1:33:55] TO SPEAK. [1:33:57] DO YOU WANT TO TO OPEN IT UP [1:33:58] STORE THE PUBLIC? [1:34:00] OKAY, LET'S GIVE IT TO THE [1:34:03] PUBLIC. [1:34:04] >> Alberto Quintanilla: WE [1:34:06] HAVE THREE SPEAKERS CARDS. [1:34:09] >> Mayor Salwan: THREE MINUTES [1:34:10] EACH. [1:34:14] >> Alberto Quintanilla: [1:34:17] (SAYING NAMES). [1:34:20] >> GOOD EVENING, I'M JAMES, I [1:34:24] LIVE ON DISTRICT 1 ON LAKE [1:34:25] READ. [1:34:28] I'VE LID THERE SINCE 1999. [1:34:31] I'VE RAISED MY KIDS THERE, I'M [1:34:32] NOW RAISING MY GRANDDAUGHTER [1:34:33] THERE. [1:34:34] THE HIGHWAYS THAT ARE THERE [1:34:37] WOULD MAKE GREAT FACILITIES AND [1:34:38] HAVE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AS [1:34:40] WELL. [1:34:42] AND IT COULD BE A GREAT CULTURAL [1:34:44] CENTER. [1:34:46] THE REASON I CAME TONIGHT IS [1:34:49] BECAUSE I JUST RECENTLY FOUND [1:34:50] OUT THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE [1:34:54] THERE HAVE BEEN EVICTED, AND [1:34:57] THAT THE CURRENT PLAN AT LEAST [1:34:59] FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS TO [1:35:02] MOTH BALL THEM UNTIL FURTHER [1:35:03] NOTICE. [1:35:05] THAT CONCERNS ME, FROM A [1:35:10] TRANSIENT PERSPECTIVE. [1:35:13] ADDITIONALLY I THINK, FROM WHAT [1:35:15] I HAVE READ, THE ONLY NUMBERS [1:35:17] THAT WERE PRESENTED WERE FOR [1:35:20] DEMOLITION, AND NOT FOR OTHER [1:35:24] OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE. [1:35:27] IF THOSE WERE RESTORED. [1:35:31] I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT YOU [1:35:33] LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE [1:35:34] POINT. [1:35:36] YES, I KNOW MONEY'S TIGHT, TIGHT [1:35:37] EVERYWHERE. [1:35:41] THIS DOES NOTE HAVE TO BE A SLAM [1:35:43] DUNK RIGHT TODAY SORT OF THING, [1:35:45] IT COULD BE AN INCREMENTAL [1:35:46] APPROACH. [1:35:47] BUT I ALSO THINK IT COULD ALSO [1:35:50] BE A WIN-WIN SITUATION. [1:35:54] BECAUSE THE CERT TEAM, COMMUNITY [1:35:55] EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM IS ALSO [1:35:56] LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PUT [1:35:58] RESOURCES ON THAT SIDE OF THE [1:36:00] COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THE CLOSEST [1:36:04] ONE IS ARDENWOOD AND AN [1:36:05] EARTHQUAKE ISN'T GOING TO DO US [1:36:07] ANY GOOD IN THAT AREA. [1:36:08] SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS [1:36:10] THAT IF THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE A [1:36:13] WHAT IF APPROACH AND [1:36:17] PERSPECTIVE, ASK AND I [1:36:22] APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER KENG [1:36:23] -- [1:36:24] >> Alberto Quintanilla: NEXT [1:36:27] SPEAKER, (SAYING NAMES) FOLLOWED [1:36:28] BY SPHAIMS NAPLES. [1:36:29] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND [1:36:30] COUNCILMEMBERS, I'M HERE TO [1:36:32] STRONGLY SUPPORT 7 A BUT 20 [1:36:36] YEARS AGO I LIVED AT WATERTOWN [1:36:39] MASSACHUSETTS, MET THIS SWEET [1:36:43] OLD LADY WHO TOLD ME ABOUT [1:36:48] HER DECEASED HUSBAND WHO SERVED [1:36:51] IN WORLD WAR TWO. [1:36:53] A COMMUNITY CENTER IS REALLY A [1:36:54] PLACE WHERE YOU ACTUALLY BUILD A [1:36:56] COMMUNITY ACROSS GENERATIONS AND [1:37:00] THE REALITIES WE INCREASING [1:37:02] PLACES THAT BRING GENERATION, [1:37:03] JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT A [1:37:04] COMMUNITY CENTER COULD AND MIGHT [1:37:05] BECOME. [1:37:07] THIS IS NOT A MY STREET MY [1:37:10] BACKYARD MY ISSUE THERE ARE I'M [1:37:15] GOING TO INDICT YOU PUBLICLY, [1:37:17] THIS IS ABOUT A WE, IT IS [1:37:18] THOUGHT A ME QUESTION, RIGHT? [1:37:21] SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO OWN VISION, [1:37:22] IMAGINE A COMMUNITY CENTER OF [1:37:24] THE FUTURE THAT CAN SERVE THIS [1:37:25] COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 250 [1:37:26] CAREERS? [1:37:27] WHAT KIND OF LEGACY WOULD YOU [1:37:28] LIKE TO LEAVE BEHIND, RIGHT? [1:37:32] SO I WOULD ASK THIS COUNCIL AND [1:37:33] ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO ASK [1:37:35] STAFF TO THINK BIGGER, THINK [1:37:37] BROADER, THINK BEYOND THE [1:37:39] LIMITATIONS OF WHAT CONSTRAIN US [1:37:40] TODAY AND THINK ABOUT THE KIND [1:37:41] OF LEGACY AND THE KIND OF [1:37:43] HISTORY THAT YOU WISH TO CREATE, [1:37:44] RIGHT? [1:37:46] AND SO THAT 100 YEARS THERE [1:37:53] FROM NOW, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO [1:37:55] LOOK BACK AND SAY IT IS THOUGHT [1:37:56] AN INFRASTRUCTURE. [1:37:57] INCREASINGLY, GOING BACK TO THE [1:37:59] SCHOOL DISTRICT COMMENT RIGHT? [1:38:00] SCHOOL FACILITIES ARE MORE [1:38:04] EXTENSIVE TO RENT OUT, A LOCAL [1:38:08] PTA THAT I HEARD FROM THEY SAID [1:38:12] THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO HOST. [1:38:14] HERE IS AN CROANL IMPROVEMENT TO [1:38:17] HERE IS IS A SLIGHTLY BIGGER [1:38:20] BOARD VISION TO A TRULY BIGGER [1:38:25] MOON VISION, INCREASES [1:38:29] INCREASES TAX REVENUE AND [1:38:32] INCREASES A FREMONT FOR ALL. [1:38:35] >> Alberto Quintanilla: FINAL [1:38:37] SPEAKER IS PATRICIA. [1:38:40] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND [1:38:41] COUNCILMEMBERS. [1:38:42] ON BEHALF OF THE HISTORIC [1:38:47] RESOURCES OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE [1:38:48] WITH THE MUSEUM OF LOCAL [1:38:50] HISTORY, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE [1:38:51] IDEA OF A COMMUNITY IN DISTRICT [1:38:55] 1. [1:38:59] SYLVESTER P. MARY COMMUNITY [1:39:03] HARVEY COMMUNITY PARK [1:39:07] IS SUITED FOR A NEW CENTER. [1:39:09] THE HISTORIC HARVEY HOUSE AND [1:39:12] THE SOCCER ANCESTRAL HOME [1:39:14] REPRESENTING THE CONTINUOUS [1:39:16] FARMING LEGACY PASSED DOWN FROM [1:39:20] SON TO SON THERE 1856 TO 1975 [1:39:22] . [1:39:24] THIS PROVIDES FREMONT WITH AN [1:39:27] EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY TO [1:39:29] ADAPTIVE REUSE. [1:39:31] BY INTEGRATING BOTH THE [1:39:33] STRUCTURES IN THE CENTER'S [1:39:35] DESIGN AND SURROUNDING THEM WITH [1:39:38] BEAUTIFUL GARDENS, WE PRESERVE [1:39:41] THIS DEEP GENERATIONAL HISTORY [1:39:44] WHILE CREATING AN INVALUABLE [1:39:45] EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE AND SPACE [1:39:48] FOR COMMUNITY GATHERINGS AND [1:39:49] EXHIBITS. [1:39:50] ON PROPERTIES AND BUILDINGS THAT [1:39:52] ARE ALREADY THERE. [1:39:53] YOU'RE NOT STARTING THERE THE [1:39:56] BEGINNING. [1:39:59] OUR MODEL FOR SUCCESS THIS THE [1:40:01] CALIFORNIA NURSERY HISTORIC PARK [1:40:04] IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE HISTORIC [1:40:06] STRUCTURES THRIVE ALONGSIDE [1:40:07] ACTUAL COMMUNITY SPACE OWES. [1:40:09] WE URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THIS [1:40:11] UNIQUE PRESERVATION OPTION OF [1:40:13] DURING YOUR DELIBERATIONS AND I [1:40:14] THANK YOU. [1:40:18] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [1:40:19] NOBODY ONLINE, OKAY. [1:40:21] GREAT. [1:40:22] AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN [1:40:23] ANSWER. [1:40:25] BUT THE FIRST GENTLEMAN, WHICH [1:40:28] LOCATION WAS HE REFERRING TO? [1:40:30] THE SAME ONE. [1:40:31] OH, OKAY. [1:40:32] GOT IT. [1:40:35] OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL. [1:40:36] >> Councilmember Campbell: I [1:40:38] WAS SORT OF THINKING ALONG THE [1:40:40] SAME LINES BUT I HADN'T THOUGHT [1:40:43] ABOUT THE HARVEY HOUSE OR THE [1:40:46] SIL VEST TEFER PARK, IF WE COULD [1:40:47] DOUGH SORT OF A PHASED IN [1:40:48] APPROACH. [1:40:50] I WAS THINKING BASED ON AT LEAST [1:40:53] THE REFERRAL THEY WERE LOOKING [1:40:54] AT PROGRAMS AS WELL, IF YOU [1:40:56] ALREADY HAVE A STRUCTURE THERE, [1:41:00] WHY COULDN'T YOU USE THE [1:41:02] STRUCTURE TO DO SOME OF THE [1:41:03] PROGRAMMATIC REQUESTS THAT ARE [1:41:05] HERE, AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS IF [1:41:06] THE FACILITY STILL EXISTS WHILE [1:41:09] WE DO THE OTHER THINGS YOUR LONG [1:41:10] RANGE PLAN, I LOVE THE IDEA [1:41:12] ABOUT THE LONG RANGE FACILITIES [1:41:15] PLAN, I WAS PART OF THE SCHOOL [1:41:16] BOARD WHEN WE DID IT. [1:41:17] >> Mayor Salwan: HEARD THERE [1:41:18] YOU GUYS. [1:41:19] >> Councilmember Campbell: [1:41:20] THANK YOU. [1:41:21] IT WAS A GREAT PROCESS, VERY [1:41:23] COMMUNITY DRIVEN AS WELL FOR [1:41:24] EACH OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS [1:41:25] THAT WERE THERE. [1:41:26] WE DID COME UP WITH THE BILLION [1:41:29] DOLLARS OF UNMET NEEDS BASED ON [1:41:31] ALL OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WE [1:41:32] HAVE. [1:41:34] BUT WE ALSO HAVE MORE SCHOOLS, [1:41:36] AND SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A [1:41:38] LESS OF A FINANCIAL BURDEN. [1:41:40] BUT MY POINT IS THAT WHILE WE'RE [1:41:42] DOING WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO DO, [1:41:44] IF WE COULD USE WHAT WE ALREADY [1:41:47] HAVE, REPURPOSE IT, TORE SOME OF [1:41:49] THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THIS [1:41:54] REFERRAL, WE MAY BE ABLE [1:41:56] TO KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE [1:41:58] STONE FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD [1:42:00] AND OFFER THAT COMMUNITY SOME [1:42:02] SERVICES OR SOME PROGRAMS SOME [1:42:05] RECREATION PROGRAMS IN OUR [1:42:09] RAILROAD-EXISTING FACILITIES. [1:42:10] >> Mayor Salwan: DOES THE CITY [1:42:11] OWN THOSE FACILITIES? [1:42:12] >> Councilmember Campbell: [1:42:13] YES, THE PARK? [1:42:14] >> Mayor Salwan: THE PARK I DO [1:42:17] KNOW, THE HARVEY HOUSE. [1:42:18] >> Councilmember Campbell: THE [1:42:20] HARVEY HOUSE, I'M SEEING KIM, [1:42:22] SHAKING HER HEAD YES. [1:42:23] SO THE CITY OWNS THOSE [1:42:24] PROPERTIES. [1:42:25] SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT [1:42:27] THAT AS A PHASE-IN. [1:42:30] THANK YOU. [1:42:31] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [1:42:32] KIMBERLIN. [1:42:33] >> Councilmember Kimberlin: I [1:42:34] DOUGH LIKE WHAT YOU MENTIONED [1:42:35] EARLIER MR. MAYOR, TALKING [1:42:36] ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE HAVE [1:42:38] THAT ARE IN DRASTIC NEED OF [1:42:41] REPAIRS AND I HAPPENED TO FIND A [1:42:42] FACILITIES REPORT, THE [1:42:43] SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND [1:42:44] SOME OF THE WORK THEY'RE [1:42:45] REPORTING OUT A YEAR AGO ON [1:42:46] PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN [1:42:48] COMPLETED BUT THEY ALSO HAVE [1:42:49] SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ON [1:42:51] THIS REPORT ABOUT WHAT FUTURE [1:42:53] PROJECTS, CONVERSIONS WITH [1:42:55] OUTDATED HEATING SYSTEMS, [1:42:57] ROOFING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON [1:42:58] CITY BUILDINGS. [1:43:00] SO I THINK REALLY HAVING A [1:43:01] COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT SOME OF [1:43:03] THAT STUFF LIKE YOU MENTIONED. [1:43:06] AND THEN I THINK SUSTAINABILITY [1:43:07] COMMISSION PUBLIC WORKS [1:43:09] FACILITIES, PROBABLY HAS A LOT [1:43:10] OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE CAN [1:43:11] JUST COMPILE. [1:43:13] THANK YOU. [1:43:14] >> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER [1:43:23] COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG. [1:43:24] >> Councilmember Zhang: I DID [1:43:25] NOT RAISE MY HAND BUT SINCE YOU [1:43:26] CALLED ME. [1:43:28] THE CITY OWNS HARVEY COMMUNITY [1:43:32] AND SO WHAT'S THE USE OF IT [1:43:33] NOW? [1:43:34] >> The Clerk: COULD STAFF JUST [1:43:37] COME AND ANSWER? [1:43:40] NO, WE HAVE TO GO TO STAFF. [1:43:42] YEAH, I WISH YOU COULD BUT [1:43:44] THAT'S THE WAY THESE THINGS [1:43:45] WORK. [1:43:46] >> Karena Shackelford: WHILE [1:43:47] KIM IS APPROACHING TO ANSWER [1:43:48] THAT QUESTION, I DO WANT TO [1:43:50] SHARE THAT, OR JUST REITERATE [1:43:52] THAT THERE IS PROGRAMMING THAT [1:43:55] OCCURS IN ARDENWOOD CURRENTLY AT [1:43:57] A COUPLE OF THE SCHOOLS THERE. [1:44:00] SO TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT [1:44:04] DESIRE OF THE COMMUNITY. [1:44:05] >> Mayor Salwan: AND I JUST [1:44:07] WANTED TO INTERJOACT HERE JUST A [1:44:08] LITTLE BIT. [1:44:09] WE'RE NOT GOING TO FINALIZE [1:44:11] EVERYTHING HERE TONIGHT. [1:44:12] THIS IS JUST DIRECTION. [1:44:14] WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO THE [1:44:15] WEEDS NOW BUT SINCE THERE ARE [1:44:17] HIGH LEVEL QUESTIONS WE CAN [1:44:18] EXPLORE THOSE. [1:44:20] JUST SO STAFF HAS SOME IDEA WHAT [1:44:24] WE ARE THINKING. [1:44:28] MS. BRANACK [1:44:29] . [1:44:32] >> I'M KIM BRANACK. [1:44:34] CURRENTLY YOUR QUESTION ABOUT [1:44:37] THE SYLVESTER HARVEY, THERE ARE [1:44:39] TWO PARTICULAR HOUSES, THEY WERE [1:44:41] USED AS RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR A [1:44:42] VERY LONG TIME. [1:44:44] WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF [1:44:45] REVIEWING THOSE SITES AND IF YOU [1:44:48] HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS MATT [1:44:51] CANO, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR [1:44:52] CO-ANSWER THOSE. [1:44:53] BUT AT THIS TIME THOSE SITES ARE [1:44:55] NOT IN A CONDITION THAT WE COULD [1:44:56] OFFER PUBLIC PROGRAMMING THERE. [1:44:58] THEY BOTH HAVE AN EXPENSIVE [1:45:03] EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT [1:45:06] NEEDS TO GO INTO THEM, ADA [1:45:07] ACCESSIBLE AS WELL AS DAMAGE [1:45:09] OVERTIME. [1:45:12] COULD IT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, [1:45:13] CURRENTLY YES, THERE WOULD BE [1:45:15] MONEY AND TIME AND A PROJECT [1:45:16] THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED [1:45:17] FOR THAT. [1:45:18] AS FAR AS PROGRAMMING THAT GOES [1:45:22] ON IN NORTH FREMONT AS THE CITY [1:45:26] MANAGER SHACKELFORD SHARES [1:45:31] , OR PROJECTS AT NORTH GHAIT [1:45:36] NORTHGATE COMMUNITY PARK, [1:45:38] IT HAS A PROGRAMMING ROOM, [1:45:40] SMALL ROOM, WE COULD DOUGH THAT [1:45:42] IN THE SPRING AND SUMMERTIME TO [1:45:44] BE OFFERING SOME PROGRAMS OUT [1:45:45] THERE. [1:45:47] WE ALSO PARTNER WITH FUSD AND [1:45:49] HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WHERE WE HAVE [1:45:51] PROGRAMMING BOTH AT ARDENWOOD [1:45:52] ELEMENTARY AND FOREST PARK [1:45:53] ELEMENTARY. [1:45:54] I WOULD SAY WITH THEM DOING ALL [1:45:56] OF THEIR PROJECTS THIS LAST YEAR [1:45:58] WE HAD LIMITED PROGRAM SPACES [1:46:00] BUT WE HOPE TO MEET WITH THEM [1:46:02] AGAIN AND BE ABLE TO EXPAND [1:46:03] THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AS POSSIBLE [1:46:05] PROGRAMMING SITES. [1:46:06] >> Mayor Salwan: I WAS GOING [1:46:10] TO SAY, ARDENWOOD [1:46:14] HISTORIC FARM AN COYOTE HILLS, [1:46:18] IS THERE A WAY TO [1:46:21] PARTNER WITH THE PARKS [1:46:22] DISTRICT? [1:46:24] >> WITH THE HOUSE WE MANAGE ON [1:46:26] SITE AND ARDENWOOD, THEY OFFER [1:46:28] CAMPS AND PROGRAMS IDENTITY [1:46:29] THERE AS WELL. [1:46:30] SO THERE IS SOME PROGRAMMING [1:46:31] GOING OWN. [1:46:33] WE'RE VERY AWARE AND IT IS [1:46:35] LISTED IN THE PARK AND REC [1:46:36] MASTER PLAN AND THE NEED FOR A [1:46:37] COMMUNITY SPACE AT SOME POINT IN [1:46:40] THE FUTURE IN NORTH FREMONT. [1:46:42] AND WE HAVE THREE COMMUNITY [1:46:44] PARKS REALLY OF. [1:46:46] >> Commissioner He: YOU HAVE [1:46:50] NORTHGATE, SYLVESTER HARVEY AND [1:46:54] CARL NORDVICK, UN [1:46:56] DEVELOPED LAND AT THOSE SITES. [1:47:00] AND AS CITY MANAGER [1:47:01] SHACKELFORD. [1:47:04] ALSO MNGSED, [1:47:06] WE KNOW THERE IS SOME PRIORITY [1:47:08] SPACE, PRIORITY TO IDENTIFY [1:47:11] SPACE AND PARK LAND BOTH IN WARM [1:47:14] SPRINGS AND CABRILLO AND NORTH [1:47:15] FREMONT AS WELL AS SOUTH FREMONT [1:47:17] AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE SITES [1:47:19] WE'VE ALSO INSTRUCTED OR REAL [1:47:20] ESTATE CONSULTANTS TO [1:47:22] POTENTIALLY LOOK AT SITES THAT [1:47:23] HAVE BUILDINGS AVAILABLE AT [1:47:24] THOSE SITES AS WELL. [1:47:26] THIS IS AN EFFORT WE ARE VERY [1:47:27] WELL AWARE OF AND WORKING [1:47:28] TOWARDS. [1:47:29] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU. [1:47:31] SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT BACK [1:47:35] OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER KENG. [1:47:36] >> Councilmember Keng: THANK [1:47:38] YOU MAYOR. [1:47:40] CAN YOU HELP -- KIM, SORRY, CAN [1:47:43] YOU HELP US -- I DID HEAR THAT [1:47:46] YOU SAID IT IS KIND OF ON THE [1:47:48] ROAD MAP IN THE FUTURE PLANS TO [1:47:51] HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER TYPE [1:47:54] FACILITY IN NORTH FREMONT. [1:47:56] SO, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU SHARE WITH [1:48:00] US THE COMMUNITY -- WE HAVE THIS [1:48:01] COMMUNITY CAPITAL FUND PROGRAM [1:48:04] THAT'S FOR -- THAT, YOU KNOW, [1:48:06] KIND OF LONG TERM, I'M NOT [1:48:09] ASKING FOR A O WE NEED TO HAVE A [1:48:10] COMMUNITY CENTER IN TWO YEARS, [1:48:13] FIVE YEARS, OR TEN YEARS, [1:48:15] BECAUSE IF WE NEVER PLAN FOR IT, [1:48:17] JUST LAST WEEK WE HAD TO APPROVE [1:48:20] A $50 MILLION IMPROVEMENT FOR [1:48:23] EXISTING PARK, RIGHT, IN CENTRAL [1:48:24] FREMONT. [1:48:25] BUT, YOU KNOW, WE -- YOU CAN'T, [1:48:28] YOU KNOW, TELL ME THAT WE CAN'T [1:48:30] PUT AWAY A MILLION OR TWO [1:48:31] MILLION A YEAR AND OTHERWISE IN [1:48:33] 30 YEARS WE STILL DON'T HAVE [1:48:36] ANYTHING RIGHT IN NORTH [1:48:37] FREMONT. [1:48:38] I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE [1:48:39] AN EQUITABLE INVESTMENT [1:48:41] STANDPOINT, THAT'S ASKING TOO [1:48:42] MUCH. [1:48:43] BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MR. [1:48:45] MAYOR, I'M SORRY TO DISAGREE [1:48:47] WITH YOU BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY [1:48:49] [1:48:51] KIND OF A PROPOSITION. [1:48:52] BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS AGO, [1:48:57] IT WAS ACTUALLY OWN THE AGENDA [1:48:58] TO MOVE FORWARD A COMMUNITY [1:49:00] CENTER. [1:49:04] BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE [1:49:06] WE -- IT'S NOTE LIKE OH [1:49:07] DISTRICT 1 DOESN'T HAVE -- I [1:49:09] WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR MY [1:49:11] DISTRICT. [1:49:13] BUT I ACTUALLY IN MISSION SAN [1:49:18] JOSE WE HAVE LAKE ELIZABETH [1:49:20] THAT IS BORDERING, PEOPLE WALK [1:49:22] FROM MISSION SAN JOSE THEY COME [1:49:24] TO THE DRONE SHOW, BY WALKING, [1:49:25] RIGHT? [1:49:26] SO LIKE WE HAVE A NEW CENTER [1:49:30] THERE, WE HAVE BOTH SENIOR [1:49:31] CENTERS IN SOUTH FREMONT. [1:49:34] AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN [1:49:36] SAY THAT OKAY, I OF COURSE EACH [1:49:38] OF US REPRESENT OUR DISTRICT [1:49:39] AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST [1:49:40] REPRESENTING OUR DISTRICT. [1:49:42] BEE ALSO REPRESENT THE CITY. [1:49:45] SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE [1:49:47] OTHER POINT OF VIEW, YOU'RE NOT [1:49:48] JUST REPRESENTING YOUR DISTRICT, [1:49:49] YOU'RE ALSO REPRESENTING MY [1:49:50] DISTRICT. [1:49:51] RIGHT? [1:49:52] SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE DENYING [1:49:56] US, YOU ARE DENYING HAVING -- [1:49:58] GIVING US A COMMUNITY CENTER [1:50:00] YOU'RE DENYING OTHER MEMBERS OF [1:50:03] THE CITY AS WELL, RIGHT? [1:50:05] SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT [1:50:08] TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR A STUDY, SO [1:50:10] WE COULD AT LEAST PUT IT ON THE [1:50:11] MAP. [1:50:12] OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED [1:50:14] AT IT 30 YEARS AGO, BUT WE NEVER [1:50:16] HAVE LIKE A PLAN, WE PUT AWAY A [1:50:18] LITTLE BIT OF MONEY EACH YEAR. [1:50:19] BECAUSE BASICALLY IN OUR [1:50:21] DISTRICT LIKE WE HAVE SIX [1:50:22] DISTRICTS IN OUR CITY LIKE WE [1:50:25] ALL HAVE SIMILAR POPULATION IN [1:50:26] EACH DISTRICT. [1:50:27] BUT BECAUSE THE OTHER FIVE [1:50:31] DISTRICTS WERE ALL -- THEY'RE -- [1:50:33] YOU KNOW, FREMONT WAS TOMORROW [1:50:34] FROM FIVE LITTLE TOWNS. [1:50:37] WE'RE LOOT THE SIXTH ONE WHICH [1:50:41] WASN'T A TOWN BEFORE, WAS PART [1:50:42] OF UNION CITY BEFORE. [1:50:46] SO WE ARE LIKE AN OVERLOOKED OR [1:50:47] AFTERTHOUGHT. [1:50:48] WE HAVE 75 HIGH SCHOOLS IN [1:50:49] FREMONT. [1:50:50] WE ARE THE ONLY DISTRICT WITH [1:50:51] THE SAME POPULATION THAT DOESN'T [1:50:52] HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL IN OUR [1:50:53] DISTRICT. [1:50:57] SO WE HAVE TO TRAVEL REALLY [1:50:58] FAR. [1:50:59] EVEN THOUGH WE CAN USE LIKE THE [1:51:01] SCHOOL SITES IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE [1:51:03] TO REGULAR PEOPLE TO OH I WANT [1:51:05] TO BOOK A BIRTHDAY PARTY AT THE [1:51:06] SCHOOL. [1:51:07] IT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE, RIGHT? [1:51:09] SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS [1:51:11] DEFINITELY NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK. [1:51:14] BECAUSE LIKE EACH OF THESE -- [1:51:15] BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE [1:51:17] OTHER FIVE DISTRICTS THEY HAVE A [1:51:18] COMMUNITY CENTER PRETTY CLOSE TO [1:51:20] THE HIGH SCHOOL. [1:51:22] AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE [1:51:24] CENTER POINT OF THEIR [1:51:25] COMMUNITY. [1:51:28] BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY. [1:51:30] SO I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, [1:51:34] I KNOW THAT [1:51:37] IN RECENT YEARS WE WERE ABLE TO [1:51:38] FIND FUNDING TO BUILD A [1:51:40] BRAND-NEW COMMUNITY CENTER BY [1:51:41] THE LAKE. [1:51:43] BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST LIKE [1:51:46] THE REGULAR ACTIVITIES THAT LIKE [1:51:48] COUNCIL IN THE PARK EVERY SUMMER [1:51:52] OR ALL THESE EVENTS IN -- [1:51:55] BY CENTRAL PARK, IT'S LIKE [1:51:56] PROBABLY MOST ATTENDED BY PEOPLE [1:51:59] THAT LIVE IN NORTH -- I MEAN [1:52:00] LEVEL IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH [1:52:01] FREMONT. [1:52:03] BUT FOR US TO TRAVEL, YOU KNOW, [1:52:05] DOWN ON THE THURSDAY NIGHT TO GO [1:52:07] TO THE CONCERT, YOU PROBABLY [1:52:10] FIND THE LEAST OF THE ATTENDEES [1:52:12] THERE ARE FROM DISTRICT 1. [1:52:15] SO I JUST WOULD URGE FOR MY [1:52:16] COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER THAT. [1:52:18] AND JUST KIND OF GIVE US A SHOT [1:52:20] SO WE COULD AT LEAST BE PUT ON [1:52:22] THE MAP AND LOOK AT -- HAVE AN [1:52:24] IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, [1:52:25] YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET IT AT LEAST [1:52:26] ON THE MAP. [1:52:29] AND OTHERWISE IN 20 YEARS WE'RE [1:52:33] STILL HERE, OH IT'S NOT URGENT, [1:52:35] YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT URGENT, I'M [1:52:37] NOT ASKED FOR IT TO BE BUILT [1:52:41] NEXT YEAR BUT I WAS ASKING FOR A [1:52:44] COMMUNITY CENTER EIGHT YEARS [1:52:46] AGO. [1:52:47] COUNCILMEMBER SHAO SAID, EVERY [1:52:49] YEAR WE NEVER DO A STUDY. [1:52:50] SO. [1:52:51] >> Mayor Salwan: JUST TO [1:52:52] CLARIFY, SO WHAT I SAID WAS I [1:52:54] SUPPORT A COMMUNITY CENTER BUT I [1:52:56] WANT TO ELEVATE THE DISCUSSION [1:52:58] TO JUST NOT JUST LOOKING AT ONE [1:53:00] COMMUNITY CENTER BUT THE ENTIRE [1:53:01] CITY. [1:53:03] AND WITH A FACILITIES PLAN. [1:53:05] AND MY HOPE IS THAT WITH [1:53:07] SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEN IT [1:53:08] BECOMES MORE CONCRETE, MORE [1:53:09] REAL. [1:53:11] AND THEN NOTE ONLY CAN WE GET A [1:53:13] COMMUNITY CENTER IN DISTRICT 1 [1:53:14] BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF [1:53:16] THE OTHER ISSUES AS WELL. [1:53:18] AND BEING MAYOR I REPRESENT ALL [1:53:19] OF FREMONT. [1:53:21] IT IS ALWAYS FUNNY WHEN I GO TO [1:53:25] WARM SPRINGS OR, YOU GUYS ONLY [1:53:27] CARE ABOUT CENTRAL FREMONT AND [1:53:30] WHEN YOU GO TO CENTRAL FREMONT [1:53:34] YOU SAY YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT [1:53:37] MISSION SAN JOSE. [1:53:39] I DOUGH WANT TO SUPPORT YOUR [1:53:40] EFFORTS, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO [1:53:42] JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT [1:53:46] ALL THE NEEDS IN OUR CITY. [1:53:47] SO WITH THAT I THINK WE HAVE A [1:53:48] GENERAL DIRECTION. [1:53:50] IF THERE'S ANY MORE SOMETHING [1:53:51] FURTHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO STATE [1:53:55] OR CLARIFY? [1:53:56] >> Councilmember Keng: SO IS [1:53:57] THE SCROANL DIRECTION FOR THE [1:54:00] STAFF TO LOOK AT THE FUNDING [1:54:02] OPTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT [1:54:03] THE PROGRAMS? [1:54:04] >> Mayor Salwan: LET ME TURN [1:54:08] IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER. [1:54:09] >> Karena Shackelford: YEAH, I [1:54:10] THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M [1:54:14] HERRING IN YOUR DISCOURSE IS [1:54:16] THAT -- WELL, SORRY. [1:54:17] IS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS [1:54:20] ON A LOANING TERM BASIS. [1:54:21] >> Councilmember Keng: RIGHT. [1:54:22] >> Karena Shackelford: OKAY, [1:54:23] AND I THINK THAT'S FINE AND I [1:54:25] THINK WE HAVE THOSE TOOLS [1:54:26] ALREADY AVAILABLE TO US. [1:54:29] AND AS I MENTIONED, EARLIER IN [1:54:33] THIS CONVERSATION, THROUGH OUR [1:54:38] PARK LAND [1:54:41] ACQUISITION EFFORTS, OUR REAL [1:54:43] ESTATE CONSULTANT IS LOOKING FOR [1:54:44] PROPERTIES OWNERSHIP IN FREMONT [1:54:45] INCLUDING NORTH FREMONT. [1:54:49] AND AS KIM MENTIONED EARLIER, [1:54:50] PARTICULARLY PROPERTIES THAT [1:54:52] ALREADY HAVE STRUCTURES ON THEM [1:54:54] THAT COULD BE USED FOR A [1:54:56] PARTICULAR COMMUNITY CENTER. [1:54:59] SO WHAT I'M READING IN THE [1:55:01] REFERRAL IS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR [1:55:05] IF NOT EXACTLY WHAT'S ALREADY [1:55:07] OCCURRING. [1:55:08] >> Councilmember Keng: OKAY, [1:55:10] THANK YOU FOR THAT [1:55:11] CLARIFICATION. [1:55:12] BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE [1:55:15] LAND -- YOU KNOW, THE [1:55:17] ACQUISITION FUNDING THE PARK [1:55:18] DEVELOPMENT, ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT [1:55:21] OF A PARK IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF [1:55:22] A POCKETS OF MONEY. [1:55:26] SO WE CAN'T REALLY [1:55:30] USE THAT REQUISITION FUNDING TO [1:55:34] REALLY BUILD A CENTER. [1:55:35] >> Karena Shackelford: ONE OF [1:55:37] THE POINTS I MADE IS MANY OF THE [1:55:42] PROPERTIES WE LOOK AT, [1:55:43] ARE PARTICULARLY ATTRACTED TO [1:55:44] PROCESS THAT HAVE STRUCTURES [1:55:45] ALREADY ON SITE. [1:55:48] WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE COUNCIL [1:55:49] OF PARTICULAR PROPERTY WASN'T IN [1:55:52] NORTH FREMONT BUT JUST TO GIVE [1:55:53] YOU AS AN EXAMPLE WE WERE [1:55:56] LOOKING TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY [1:55:57] THAT HAD SEVERAL STRUCTURES ON [1:55:58] IT ALREADY. [1:56:00] AND ONE OF THE STRUCTURES [1:56:01] ALREADY INCLUDED A BASKETBALL [1:56:02] COURT. [1:56:06] SO THAT -- SITES LIKE THAT ARE [1:56:08] PARTICULARLY ATTRACTIVE TO US [1:56:09] AND PARK LAND FUNDS WOULD BE [1:56:10] AVAILABLE FOR THAT. [1:56:12] NOT TO BUILD A STRUCTURE BUT TO [1:56:16] PURCHASE A SITE LIKE THAT. [1:56:18] >> Councilmember Keng: OKAY, [1:56:21] THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, [1:56:23] WHATEVER WOULD TAKE IT FASTER TO [1:56:28] OUR GOAL WOULD BE FEASIBLE [1:56:29] . [1:56:30] >> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, SO WE [1:56:32] HAVE GOOD UNDERSTANDING AND ALSO [1:56:35] SO STAFF COULD LOOK AT THE LONG [1:56:36] TERM PERSPECTIVE. [1:56:37] >> Councilmember Keng: DO WE [1:56:39] NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? [1:56:40] >> Mayor Salwan: NO I THINK [1:56:41] STAFF HAS DIRECTION. [1:56:42] >> Councilmember Keng: THANK [1:56:43] YOU. [1:56:44] >> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU [1:56:45] STAFF. [1:56:47] I KNOW THERE IS MORE -- THOUGHT [1:56:49] YOU WOULD GET INVOLVED BUT [1:56:51] APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US KNOW. [1:56:52] NEXT WE HAVE REPORT ON COMMITTEE [1:56:53] ASSIGNMENTS. [1:56:57] DO WE HAVE ANY REPORT ON [1:56:58] COMMUNITY SITES? [1:56:59] DID YOU WANT TO HIT THE BUTTON? [1:57:00] ALL RIGHT, WELL SEEING NO [1:57:02] REPORTS, MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [1:57:04] THANK YOU EVERYONE, HAVE A GREAT