1 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,000 We are live. >> Okay. 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,720 Hello everyone and welcome to the Citizens Participation Committee meeting 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:27,840 for September 9th, 2026. Uh we're going to go ahead and start off 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,640 by uh doing a quick roll call so that I make sure that I have a record of 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,040 everyone who's here. Um so I'll go ahead and call your name 6 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:39,240 and you can just let me know that uh you are indeed here. So Steve Klevenger. 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,960 » Present. >> Stewart Frescas. 8 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:46,480 » Present. >> Gene Croshan. 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,000 » Here. >> And Lynn Nelson. 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:55,720 » Here. >> All right. Is there anybody else that I 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,720 missed that I'm not seeing online? 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Okay, it doesn't appear that there's anyone else that's joined us yet. So 13 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:08,040 we'll go ahead and get started with the program. So the first item is to approve 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:13,320 minutes from our previous meeting. Uh so I'd 15 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,880 start by entertaining a motion to approve those minutes unless there 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,720 are any questions or corrections. Yeah, okay, thank you Lynn. 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,120 So we have a motion for approval from Lynn and a second from Steve. Uh so 18 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,520 we'll go ahead and do a roll call vote. Uh Steve Klevenger. 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,960 » Yes. >> Stewart Frescas. 20 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,960 » Yes. >> Gene Croshan. 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,280 » Yes. >> And Lynn Nelson. 22 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,720 » Yes. >> All right. Uh the motion carries. The 23 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:46,200 minutes are approved. So now we're going to go ahead and get 24 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:51,520 into some of the items that we have to bring to you tonight. 25 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:55,200 So the first one is um regarding the Northern Corridor 26 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Connection Study or the US 231 study. Um so this is 27 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:03,920 something that we try to give you guys a quarterly update on. 28 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:08,240 So I always like to start with just setting the background information for 29 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:12,280 this and reminding everyone that as of right now, INDOT has not yet 30 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:17,280 committed to any kind of a project. So it is still uncertain if one will happen 31 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:22,600 or not. It is also possible that if a project does happen, it will not be 32 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:27,360 officially US 231. It could be a connector road under local control. So 33 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:32,320 that's why we do refer to that project as the northern corridor connection. 34 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:37,680 So sometimes that can be confusing for people because I think most people do 35 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:41,320 think of it as US 231, but just to kind of keep everything straight, we do call 36 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:46,000 it officially the northern corridor connection. 37 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:50,440 I will also mention that no official routes have been determined. Anything 38 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:56,840 that you see on a map is just a conceptual placeholder. Before any final 39 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:01,360 determination of alignment would be made, 40 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:06,440 you need to do extensive engineering work and public outreach. So for 41 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:13,040 example, what I have shown here is from our Wabash Township plan. And 42 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,519 what that shows again is just conceptual. And before anything would be 43 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:22,120 finalized, there has to be a lot of work that has 44 00:03:19,239 --> 00:03:26,280 yet to be done. So just want to keep that in mind as we 45 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:31,640 continue on with our discussion. So the process for this 46 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:35,560 is phase one, which is a white paper, which will determine all the work that 47 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:40,040 must be completed before a project can begin, before anything can start. And 48 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:45,480 then after that, there needs to be a full engineering study. The exact type 49 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:50,200 and scope of that study is not yet known. It will be determined by the 50 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,760 white paper. The reason for that is that there are 51 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:59,120 several different potential types of studies you can use for a 52 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:03,440 transportation project and we want to get the best match for our specific 53 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,560 situation. And in order to do that, we need to do 54 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,160 some kind of background work, which will happen in phase one. 55 00:04:07,959 --> 00:04:14,240 Uh so phase three, uh which I have marked as a question mark, uh is project 56 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:18,239 development construction. So there are several challenges that would have to be 57 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:21,600 overcome before this happens. Um coordination with different 58 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:25,440 jurisdictions, um finding funding for that project, which would probably be 59 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:29,240 the biggest hurdle, um as well as a lot of other work that would have to be 60 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:33,560 done. Um so if all those challenges can be overcome, the project would likely be 61 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,800 constructed in multiple phases and it would take many, many years to complete. 62 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,040 So this isn't something that's going to be happening tomorrow 63 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:44,800 uh or next month or next year. It'll still be a few years down the road, at 64 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:49,560 least. So this is kind of where the update 65 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:53,640 portion really comes in. So where are we in the process? 66 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Um so we're kind of still just before phase one. We have posted an RFP 67 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:04,760 um and we are expecting to receive some proposals for that from some engineering 68 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:08,040 firms. Proposals are due on September 21st, so coming up here in just a couple 69 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:14,360 weeks. Um we have kind of in preparation for 70 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:18,000 that assembled a scoring committee. Um so this committee scoring committee will 71 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:24,280 have representatives from APC, the county, West Lafayette, and Lafayette. 72 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Um each member will receive a copy of each proposal that we receive and they 73 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:35,720 will give them a score from zero to 100 points based on some metrics that were 74 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:40,000 published in our RFP. Um and then we will aggregate those scores um and the 75 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:46,120 consulting firm with the best total score will be awarded the project. 76 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:50,480 Um so we're kind of getting ready for that. We have a pre-meeting scheduled 77 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:54,200 next week to go over that with all our members of the selection committee to 78 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:57,920 make sure that everyone understands 79 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:02,400 what the scoring criteria are and all those kinds of things. 80 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:06,160 Um so that's where we are right now and I wanted to kind of give a little 81 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:11,680 preview for our next meeting. So by the next meeting 82 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:16,280 that we have in 3 months, we will know which firm has been selected to perform 83 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:19,680 this work and it's possible that there will be a little bit of work completed 84 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,320 or starting. So we might have something to share. I'm 85 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:27,120 not 100% sure where we'll be in the process at that point. It kind of 86 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:31,560 depends on how fast of a start the 87 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:37,200 selected firm is is able to get on the project. Um but within the next couple 88 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,600 meetings we should have some more significant updates and and be reaching 89 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:47,960 out to people with uh opportunities for feedback. 90 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:52,120 Um so kind of as usual, I also want to make sure that everyone knows where they 91 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,560 can get updates on this. Certainly by coming to this committee meeting, that's 92 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,520 one place to get updates. We are also posting updates on the APC 93 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:05,400 website, which I have listed on this slide. Um additionally, the local media 94 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:09,240 often picks up on some of this type of stuff. Um 95 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:13,160 so you should be able to see some of that in your favorite local media 96 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,960 source. Um are there any questions about this? 97 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,120 » Sounds like a good start. 98 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:31,120 » Yes, thank you. We We think so too so far, so 99 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,680 hopefully we'll be able to get off the ground and running and we'll be able to 100 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,480 get some really good public feedback on this and 101 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,760 see what we need to do or or maybe not do. 102 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,600 » Okay. Uh so it sounds like there's no other questions or comments. Um unless 103 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Arya, was there anything that we got from our streams on Facebook or YouTube? 104 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,760 » Let me see. No public comment on Facebook or YouTube at this time. 105 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,840 » Okay, thank you. Um so we'll go ahead then and move on to 106 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:11,240 our next item, which is the uh pedestrian bicycle 107 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,680 crash or the pedestrian crash analysis, rather. 108 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Um so this is a report uh that we recently completed and posted um 109 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,520 on our website. We do have a link in the packet to this. Uh if you're interested 110 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,919 in going through the full report, um it is long enough that I'm not going to 111 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,480 necessarily be going through everything. I'm just going to kind of hit some of 112 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,479 the highlights, and then we'll take questions at the end. 113 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,000 So I'm going to go ahead and start right here 114 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:42,120 uh with some of the the key findings from this report. Um and what I really 115 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:47,160 want to highlight is that first of all, less than 1% of all crashes in 116 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Tippecanoe County involve a pedestrian. So this isn't necessarily a frequent 117 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:57,280 occurrence among our crashes, but unfortunately, it is a potentially 118 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:03,280 very harmful one. Because when a pedestrian crash does occur, um 119 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:07,680 pedestrians do sustain an injury 85.9% of the time when involved in a crash, 120 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:13,200 which obviously is not great. That's a very high percentage um of injury, so 121 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:17,120 um and sometimes it's actually even worse, of course. Um fortunately, there 122 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:21,520 have been eight fatalities um in the period that this report considers, which 123 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:26,160 was 2018 to 2022. Um so over that period, you know, eight 124 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:31,000 fatalities is eight more than we would like to see. 125 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:35,720 Um but unfortunately, they do happen. So kind of going on to some of the 126 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:41,600 high-level summary data, I'm skipping over a little bit here, but 127 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:46,560 Uh so we have on page five of the report kind of just some general overview of 128 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:51,000 what we're seeing in crashes. So table one and figure one kind of are 129 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:55,360 displaying the same data in different ways. We often like to do this in our 130 00:09:53,440 --> 00:10:00,080 reports where some people are able to process the data a 131 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:03,880 little bit better in tabular form, whereas other people are a little more 132 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:08,560 visual and might prefer a graphic. So really what we're seeing is that 133 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:13,040 things are fairly consistent across the five years of this report in terms of 134 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:18,920 number of crashes with the exception of 2020 and 2021 135 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:22,600 where they take a significant dip and we believe that the reason for that was 136 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:27,160 likely just because of COVID. People weren't traveling in the same way. It 137 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:30,880 really impacted a lot of different data. So with more people staying at home and 138 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:35,000 fewer people driving and perhaps not as many people 139 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,840 walking in some of the same areas as especially the Purdue campus as it would 140 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:43,280 have been in other years. We believe that explains kind of the 141 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:48,320 decrease in those years. But other than that, the number of pedestrian crashes 142 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:54,760 has mostly been in the the 30s from 2018 to 2022 there. 143 00:10:52,680 --> 00:11:00,640 So skipping ahead a little bit farther to page 12 in our report. So this is 144 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,760 where we kind of look at different times of the day when pedestrian crashes might 145 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:07,880 occur. And I think this is probably about what 146 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:12,800 you would kind of expect to see from this sort of data. Early in the morning, 147 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:17,280 you know, 12:00 a.m. you will get a few crashes that do happen. Those are you 148 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:22,640 know, perhaps people walking out around after a late night of 149 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:26,880 activities, but not too many. And then there is a significant peak in the 150 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:31,680 morning between 7:00 and 8:00 a.m. as well as kind of an afternoon/evening 151 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:36,880 peak period there sort of between 3:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. with a little bit of 152 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,200 fluctuation there. Um when you get people going out around dinner time, 153 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:45,920 after work, uh taking a walk, that kind of thing. 154 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:49,760 Um but even other than that, uh throughout the daytime hours, there are 155 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:54,440 still several crashes. Um and some of those, of course, are on 156 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,560 the Purdue University campus, um which we will get into a little more 157 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,760 later. Uh but moving ahead to page 18 of the 158 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:07,120 report. So, this shows um the location of 159 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,560 injury, incapacitating injury, and fatality crashes. 160 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:15,200 So, I mentioned earlier that there's a very high chance that if someone is 161 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:19,080 involved in a pedestrian crash, that it will at least be an injury, if 162 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:24,720 not worse. So, the way to read this map, uh figure 163 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:29,600 11 here that I'm showing, is the larger the size of the dot on the map, uh the 164 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,880 more severe the crash is. So, if we look down at the legend here, 165 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:37,800 the large orange dots are the fatalities. Incapacitating injuries are 166 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:42,400 kind of I think that's olive green, I'll call that color. 167 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:46,640 Uh and then injuries are blue. Um and then the the smallest one are pedestrian 168 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:55,400 crashes with no injury, which there aren't very many of. 169 00:12:49,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Uh moving ahead to pages 29 to 35. Uh so, we have here a series of 170 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:04,600 different maps once I get down to them, uh which kind of show some differences 171 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:08,160 uh in where the crashes are actually located. 172 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Um so, I think again, this is pretty intuitive as to what you would expect. 173 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:17,680 This first figure kind of shows that most of them are within the city limits 174 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:21,800 um of Lafayette or West Lafayette. Uh there are certainly a few outside of the 175 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:27,160 city limits, out in the county. Um and some of those that are out in the county 176 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:31,400 uh are often along state roads or uh busier area busier uh county roads with 177 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:35,480 higher traffic. Um and unfortunately some of those that 178 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,640 are out in the more rural areas are some of our more severe ones, 179 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:44,160 uh which is unfortunate. Um so if we go to figure 17, which is on 180 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,960 the next page, so this kind of shows where they're occurring in Lafayette. Um 181 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:52,400 so there are of course several that occur in the downtown and near downtown 182 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:57,000 area. And then other than that, you can kind of look along some of the major 183 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:01,160 corridors and you see uh perhaps like 9th Street, 18th Street for instance, 184 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:05,720 that there are kind of some along those north-south routes for example, um as 185 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:11,520 well as several others. Uh similarly, we also have 186 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:14,120 a map for West Lafayette. And again, as you would expect, most of 187 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,880 these are uh concentrated in the campus or near 188 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,520 campus area. Um there are a few up by Salisbury 189 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Street, uh kind of a little farther north in 190 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:31,520 West Lafayette as well. Uh some near US 52/Sagamore Parkway, special 52, 191 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,640 whatever you want to call that road, as well. 192 00:14:32,839 --> 00:14:41,000 Um and then we do also have a specific map just for the Purdue University area 193 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,320 as well. Um so I kind of highlight those to say that, you know, if you want to go 194 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:48,200 back and look at those later, um if there is an area um you're particularly 195 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:52,440 interested in, I would suggest doing that. There's a lot of good information 196 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:56,080 in this report. Uh and I think that those particular maps uh that I just 197 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,520 went through are probably a pretty good starting point um to look 198 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:06,200 at. So moving on to kind of some of the next 199 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:11,280 stuff, so on page 37, so what this is is this is pedestrian crashes by specific 200 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:16,839 location. So with vehicle crashes, they're almost 201 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:22,000 always on a road or in a parking lot, um but unfortunately, pedestrians can be 202 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:25,560 hit in other places such as driveways, uh along the shoulder of the road, um 203 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:30,080 sometimes even when they're along a sidewalk, or in an alley, 204 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:35,440 etc. So, by far the most common one you'll 205 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,320 see there is the the blue dots, which are 206 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:43,280 when there are pedestrians crossing in an intersection. That's by far the most 207 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:48,560 dangerous spot for a pedestrian and where you'll see the largest number. 208 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,560 But, there are several other places where pedestrian crashes can 209 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:57,280 occur. And some of that is shown in this map. There's also, of course, some 210 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:02,120 explanation and analysis in the text about that as well that I think is good 211 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,280 reading for those that are interested. So, then I'd like to go ahead and 212 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,760 » Quick question. >> Yep, go ahead. 213 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:14,320 » What What is I mean, I understand you've got sidewalk and you've got um 214 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:21,960 the shoulder. What does road mean? >> Yes. So, road I'm going to go back here. 215 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:28,280 it was this one. Yeah. I think Yes. So, road is when someone was maybe like 216 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:32,320 walking by the side of the road or they weren't in like a marked crosswalk 217 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,839 or um >> Jaywalking? 218 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,560 » in an intersection. Yeah, so it could be like a mid-block jaywalking, yes. Um I 219 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:43,600 think I'm actually on the wrong map. It was this one I was looking at. Um 220 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:47,720 yeah, so something along those lines. Um 221 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,720 yeah. 222 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:55,520 So, the the green ones there. And then sometimes there are 223 00:16:52,080 --> 00:17:01,080 just kind of some unusual circumstances where maybe someone had 224 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:04,079 just gotten out of a a parked car and or something like that and someone 225 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:09,120 didn't see him. It could be So, road is a little bit of a the broadest category. 226 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:14,040 When So, this information is taken from officers' crash reports. 227 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:18,839 Um and they do only have certain categories they can select from. So, 228 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,959 sometimes road is used as kind of a catch-all category. 229 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:27,079 » Got you. Thank you. >> Yeah, good question, Steve. 230 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,200 Okay. So, then the last thing I wanted to highlight 231 00:17:28,199 --> 00:17:34,640 was this, which is the last page of the report, the initial recommendations 232 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:38,120 page. Um so, we're recommending to continue to discuss these findings with 233 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:43,200 local government engineers and law enforcement. Uh 234 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:49,160 which will hopefully ultimately lead to identifying potential safety projects. 235 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:52,680 Um and then similarly discuss some of this information with the Indiana 236 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,880 Department of Transportation. Same idea working with them to develop 237 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,720 potential improvement projects. Uh we'd also like to take this to the 238 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,240 West Lafayette and Lafayette Bicycle and Pedestrian Citizen Committees that they 239 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:11,200 have. Um and as a staff, we often do a lot of 240 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:15,360 additional analysis. So, we're going to continue to to do 241 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:19,480 some crash analysis work on this as well. This isn't the only work we're 242 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:23,320 doing on bicycle and pedestrian type of crashes. Um 243 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:29,120 So, we do have some more work in the the pipeline to do to continue to analyze 244 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:34,440 this and try to find ways to make our roads safer for everyone who's trying to 245 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:38,280 use them, not just for those that are traveling in vehicles, but making it 246 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:41,920 safer for everyone. Are there any other questions about this 247 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:44,440 report? >> Any information 248 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:49,720 » Go ahead. >> Um yeah, Stewart Freestone here. 249 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:55,480 My gut feeling is that the situ you know, just as you stated, that the 250 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:59,760 situation is not getting worse, you know, uh and this is as a cyclist, you 251 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:04,560 know, frequent cyclist, that 252 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:09,320 you know, things are pretty even and maybe ever so slightly better than they 253 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:13,120 once were. So, that that's just my comment. 254 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:17,080 » Okay, yep. Thank you, Stewart. I would say that 255 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:21,320 the numbers kind of being fairly consistent other than the 256 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,680 anomaly that we had because of COVID does kind of verify that, but we'd 257 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:28,000 certainly like to get that down, especially the 258 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,120 injury and fatality numbers are what we'd really like to get down. 259 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,480 » Is there a reason you stopped in 2022 with the data? 260 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:45,600 » Well, when we started working on this project, that was what was available to 261 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:50,920 us. We will continue to do these 262 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:55,400 periodically. So, there will be a specific deep dive on this. 263 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,400 Part of the reason why it's taken a few years for this to 264 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:03,160 come out is that our staff has had some other 265 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:07,080 different kinds of crash analysis they've been working on 266 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:12,400 that are kind of more high-level and for other projects. So, this one got pushed 267 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,920 a little bit to the back burner just because of some other priorities. 268 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:24,520 » Any information on distracted walking? People just staring at their cell phones 269 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:28,920 and not paying attention. >> Well, I'm sure that absolutely is 270 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:33,240 happening. Unfortunately, it's a Yeah, it's a little hard to get that 271 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:37,240 information. The only way we would have that is if 272 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:43,160 the officer would note that in the narrative section of the crash report. 273 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:49,000 And I would imagine that most people are pretty unwilling to admit if they were, 274 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:52,040 you know, texting and walking or changing their music and walking or you 275 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:57,520 know, whatever. So, I would imagine that any information 276 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:03,040 we get would be kind of under accounting that issue, so 277 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,040 to speak. 278 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,040 Other questions? 279 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,640 All right. Well, hearing none, we're going to go ahead and move on to our 280 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,320 next item. Uh so, that is the Wea and Sheffield 281 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,400 Township plan. Um so, this is something that our 282 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:32,640 current planning staff has been working on. They are um studying the future for 283 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:36,520 the unincorporated areas of Wea and Sheffield Townships 284 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:40,480 uh in the hopes to create a land use plan that will guide development as it 285 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:45,040 occurs in those areas. Um the draft plan, which is what uh 286 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:48,080 I have on the screen there, has been presented to the public for 287 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:52,280 comments at two open house events in July and was also posted on our website 288 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,720 uh through the end of August for comment. Um so, the public comment 289 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,840 period has wrapped up. Um there is a steering committee that 290 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:04,080 was formed as part of this plan. Um they're reviewing the draft for any 291 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:09,360 additional edits. Uh the plan is for APC staff to present 292 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,040 this uh whatever the the final version of the plan is with those edits 293 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:18,360 um to the Area Plan Commission at their meeting on October 21st. 294 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Uh and then, assuming that that goes through, then the County 295 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:25,640 Commissioners will be voting to adopt it at their November meeting. 296 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:29,360 Um so, briefly, just kind of want to go through some of what's in this plan at a 297 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:33,400 very high level um by looking at the table of contents. 298 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:38,480 So, there is kind of an introduction. Um there is so, profiles. What that 299 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,320 means is that's kind of the current situation. 300 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,360 Um so, and then it gives some information. So, I'm kind of scrolling 301 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:48,360 through this pretty quickly, but it gives some information 302 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:52,080 um just about what the current situation is 303 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:58,120 uh in terms of zoning uh as well as condition of existing structures, 304 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:02,160 building occupancy, um information about historic structures, uh uh, those types 305 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,440 of things. Um we have a a list there of historic 306 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:10,520 properties that you see. Uh, we have uh, information about trails 307 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:13,120 and parks, those kinds of things. Um, so there is a lot of good stuff in 308 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,200 here. I know I'm going through this very quickly. This isn't intended to be a 309 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:20,440 full explanation of this. Uh, then goals, 310 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:23,120 objectives, and strategies kind of talks about, uh, 311 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,800 what we'd like to do. So, we gathered a lot of these 312 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:30,120 uh, five goals here, uh, based on some of 313 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,640 the public input sessions we had uh, with input as well from our steering 314 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:37,360 committee. And then based on that, we have some 315 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:42,360 recommendation for, uh, transportation improvements in chapter four 316 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:47,480 as well as, uh, suggested land uses. 317 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,400 Which I'm trying to scroll down to. Yeah, chapter five, uh, future land 318 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:56,040 uses, I guess is what we called it. Um, so this kind of will help 319 00:23:53,680 --> 00:24:00,320 guide us, uh, when there are properties that come up for potential re-zones or 320 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,440 projects. One of the thing our staff things our staff always looks at when 321 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:08,440 we're representing, uh, things to the the plan commission, 322 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:12,160 um, and giving a recommendation, is we look at the comprehensive plan. 323 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,240 And because it'd been a while since we, uh, in Sheffield Townships have been 324 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:21,040 looked at, uh, we felt that that needed to get updated. So, that's, uh, a lot of 325 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:24,280 the impetus for this plan. So, there's a lot of good information in here as well 326 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:29,280 as some documentation of the public comments we received in the appendices, 327 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,160 uh, here in chapter six. Which again, I'm not going to go through 328 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,440 all this, um, but I just wanted to let everyone know 329 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:40,440 that it is available. So, if you want to go over this, uh, and look through it 330 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:45,560 for specific questions on your own time, uh, that's great. And like I said, 331 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:49,720 October 21st, uh, is the date where it's supposed to go to the plan commission. 332 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:55,080 So, I would encourage you, um, if that's something you're interested in, 333 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:59,600 to be present at that, uh, meeting on on 21st and to, come prepared with any 334 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:06,200 comments you have. I think that would would be great for 335 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,200 our staff. So, any questions about this? 336 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,000 Okay, I'm not hearing any, so I'm going to go ahead and move on to our next 337 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:25,400 agenda item, which is the public participation plan. And I'm actually 338 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:29,880 going to turn it over to Arya, who's going to let us know where we're at with 339 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,880 that. So, 340 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:37,360 » Yeah. Let me get my screen sharing figured 341 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,360 out. It's 342 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,960 might have to disable yours first. 343 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,040 Oh. 344 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:59,000 Okay, so hopefully you can see my screen here. 345 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,720 So, the public participation plan uh 346 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,800 was something we brought up at our previous 347 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,800 CBC meeting. And at that time we kind of gave you an 348 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:11,760 overview of what it was, what we were doing with it. 349 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:15,920 And now we have a first draft. And the public comment period for it is 350 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,040 open. So, on our website you can find the draft. 351 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,560 We're taking public comment on it through various means, including this 352 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,400 committee. Um but you know, email, call, 353 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:30,800 uh I guess post on our social media. 354 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:35,200 Oh, it feels weird to say that. Anyway, so I'll just kind of reintroduce this 355 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:39,480 really briefly. So, the public participation plan kind of guides 356 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,640 how we interact with the public, and how we 357 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,680 uh gather pub- public information, uh 358 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:52,200 particularly how we do our outreach. So, this document is a document we've 359 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:55,280 had since I think it's 2017. We made significant updates to it in 360 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,720 2021. And now here we are again, you know, 361 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:04,000 about 5 years later, 2026, updates again. So, 362 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,040 uh we need to constantly uh refine our processes and, you know, 363 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,880 pay attention to what we're hearing from the public as well as 364 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:16,320 implementing things we've learned. So, we'll keep updating this plan as we 365 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:21,040 continue to improve our processes. So, significant changes from the last 366 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:24,040 one, I would say not too many. 367 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:29,440 Our 2021 plan 368 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:34,120 uh came out just after COVID. So, it did include some 369 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:40,240 changes for, you know, social distancing and all the 370 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:43,840 uh challenges we faced during that era. Um 371 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:50,000 but generally the methods of public outreach that we designed in that plan 372 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:55,040 uh are still applicable today. And, you know, we haven't 373 00:27:52,720 --> 00:28:00,000 altered those too much. Uh we have added a few things and I 374 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:05,320 think crucially for this plan on the wake of very recent events, we've 375 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:11,840 um removed I won't say removed. We've made 376 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:16,880 it clear what we won't do also. So, in any case, this document is a little 377 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:21,240 bit shorter and briefer than previous document. So, we know the public doesn't 378 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,880 want to read long complicated plans. We've simplified the language a bit. We 379 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:31,480 shortened it up. And we've also included a little bit 380 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:36,640 more explanatory information about who uh we are and what we do at APC. And, 381 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:39,520 you know, you would on the committee here know, but you know, the public 382 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,920 maybe doesn't know that we are the metropolitan transportation 383 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,360 organization for our area. And what we do is kind of 384 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:53,760 guide transportation funding and how it's spent on projects. That's our role 385 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:58,760 here. So, the public feedback that we can best use are those based on 386 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:04,080 transportation projects. So, this plan kind of covers that and hopefully will 387 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,680 make it clear to everybody, you know, what we can really implement 388 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:13,080 um for our office in particular. 389 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:17,360 So, we introduced ourselves. We talked about our goals. These specific goals we 390 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,200 worked on before, those haven't really changed 391 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:25,480 uh since last plan. You know, these were based on public comments before. We're 392 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:31,080 taking public comments again if anybody, you know, suggests new goals or 393 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:34,600 improvements to these, but um 394 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:39,520 those are the same as before. And I've listed a number of ways public 395 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:44,240 can contact us. Quite a few. 396 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:47,280 And I think the biggest change here is I mentioned before. So, 397 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,640 the methods we're using to reach the public are very similar to before. You 398 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:57,800 know, we have a variety of methods in person, digital, print media, and I 399 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:02,400 pulled out audio this time as well. Uh it was We did use these methods 400 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:08,040 before, but I made them more prominent to note that we have both visual, audio, 401 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:12,680 and, you know, in-person methods. Uh but personally, 402 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:16,800 uh some things direct text message direct text messages 403 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:21,560 um we're stating that we won't be using that outreach method. 404 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,800 And I think direct phone calls also, yes. 405 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,560 Um you know, there's been some scams going around recently 406 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,040 involving uh you know, our office and other 407 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,960 offices, I guess. So, we just want to make it clear how we 408 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,320 won't reach out to you. You know, if you're being told things from those 409 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:45,880 methods, that's not our office. Uh which isn't just as just as important 410 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,840 as saying how we will reach out, so. We've changed that. 411 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,400 And I think word of mouth is also a new 412 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:56,560 topic. We didn't explicitly mention word of 413 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,560 mouth outreach before, but you know, this can be a very good way of 414 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:04,680 reaching people um 415 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:08,400 in the social circles and methods that already exist that, you know, maybe 416 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,720 social media or our traditional outreach outreach 417 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,480 methods wouldn't uh connect with. 418 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,600 And also that's I mean that's the whole the plan 419 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,280 really is the techniques and methods. The rest of this is just uh 420 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,720 background information, which I think is helpful to people who are maybe, you 421 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:33,240 know, don't know what we do or don't know exactly what we're asking for or 422 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:37,320 why. So, I cover the plans that we create, so like the MTP, 423 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,200 metropolitan met- metropolitan transportation plan, 424 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,400 transportation improvement plan, and thoroughfare plan, 425 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,840 this plan, public participation plan. And we do have other plans as well, but 426 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,400 those are kind of the the primary ones that you probably have all heard about 427 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,120 before and that we discuss the most in public. 428 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,840 And I talk about the committees we have, you know, this is just one of three. 429 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Public is welcome to attend and comment at all of them. You know, this is just 430 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:08,040 our kind of public-centric one. And also some timelines just to give the 431 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:12,000 public kind of a general expectation. These are not set in stone. Please don't 432 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:16,480 Don't quote these. Um, but you know, generally our office 433 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:20,040 we know you know, to an extent what the future 434 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:25,360 holds and when we need to update plans. So, let you know when we expect those 435 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:29,440 uh dates to be ahead of time, I think is also useful. 436 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,680 So, that's basically this whole draft. Oh, no, no, 437 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,280 sorry. This is very important. Also, evaluation. This is, you know, part of 438 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:41,240 why we're doing this update. We have to evaluate what we're doing and 439 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:45,960 uh update it as we learn and and grow. So, very crucial part of the process. 440 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,680 The rest of this document is just appendices about, you know, who we 441 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,800 outreach to. Um, 442 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,560 you know, people that are hard to reach, very important, some background 443 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:01,200 demographic data on our community. And some forms for people that, you 444 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:06,360 know, would like to kind of give us feedback in a more formalized 445 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:10,680 way. Some people appreciate that. Um, 446 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:16,400 and legal requirements, 447 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:19,360 and just data about our boards and who's on them currently. So, that's the whole 448 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,080 plan. It 449 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:26,840 does look like it's 28 pages, but the meat of it is just like under 10 pages. 450 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,720 So, you know, please, if you'd like to comment, it's not hard to read. I made 451 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,360 it hopefully very easy to read. So, please, you know, 452 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:38,080 we want to hear from you how you want to hear from us. 453 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,800 That's all I have. Any questions, comments? 454 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,560 » Looks good. >> Wonderful, thank you. Even just that is 455 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,840 helpful to hear, too. You know, if you don't have any changes to me, just 456 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,680 hearing that this is good, we appreciate that. You know, it shows that we're 457 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,120 we're doing things right and we want to keep doing them the correct way. So, 458 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,120 thank you. 459 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,960 And if the community doesn't have any other comments, 460 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,120 I'm not seeing any on Facebook or YouTube this time, either. 461 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,840 Okay. >> Okay. 462 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:31,800 Uh, well, I guess I'll go ahead and take it over and uh, kind of wrap this up 463 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:36,679 here. Um, so, we have reached the point in our 464 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:40,280 agenda where we are ready for any additional questions or comments that we 465 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:46,159 missed before. So we'll certainly give the stream a 466 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:50,120 minute or so to catch up. But during that time is there anything 467 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:55,360 else from the committee that you guys would like to to ask about that we might 468 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,360 have missed earlier? 469 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:01,880 » Well, nothing about what you've missed but I've been driving my 470 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,520 grandson over because he's working over at Purdue and 471 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:10,440 the distracted distracted pedestrian is really a thing where 472 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,920 they're you know looking at their phones and not paying much attention 473 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,560 when they're crossing the streets and stuff. It's kind of terrifying at times. 474 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:26,280 » Yeah, definitely is. An issue especially with you know, we 475 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,760 have so many students now at Purdue is as far as I know it's the second largest 476 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,760 Big Ten school in terms of enrollment behind Ohio State. So definitely a lot 477 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:40,440 of young people moving around on on campus. 478 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:44,120 » I know at one time they had crossing guards for the Purdue students. 479 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,680 For at least a short period of time. I don't think they still do that but 480 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,880 » Well, during boiler rush they have their guides you know with their 481 00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,720 » Yeah. >> Yeah, but other than that and and boiler 482 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:05,280 rush was another whole thing but he works over in Windsor. So it's been 483 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,440 interesting and I'm very thankful for the bypass you know 484 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,440 with going around on Harrison Street and that 485 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,720 because it's rather than having to go through State Street. 486 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,600 » One thing that'll be interesting when you get crash reports is the number 487 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:44,360 of crashes at um uh State Michigan 488 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,960 um Boulevard and um 231. There seem to be a lot of crashes there. 489 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:56,360 » Yes, we do uh work on 490 00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:00,560 more uh full crash reports with with all the 491 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:04,000 crashes, not just deep dives on pedestrians. 492 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,520 Um so, I don't know Ari if you had anything you wanted to add about that 493 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:12,360 specific intersection. I know you look at the data a lot more than I do um in 494 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:16,840 more depth, so. >> Yeah, I mean 495 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:21,240 uh I don't want to talk off the top of my 496 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:25,080 head here without firm numbers, but I will say that yeah, our most recent 497 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:29,120 crash report uh we pull out a lot of big corridors uh directly in intersections, 498 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,120 so you can look exactly at, you know, State Street or Michigan Avenues or 499 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:38,080 any of the big intersections there and see exactly how many 500 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:41,120 crashes there were in the past 5 years. Um 501 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,920 and our other reports that are not just the pedestrian one are more up-to-date, 502 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,560 so. You can look at the whole history of all 503 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,280 of our crash reports too on our website if you want to see even older stuff, 504 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:56,160 too. >> Oh, and I'd be interested with the the 505 00:37:53,160 --> 00:38:02,840 scooters and that cuz and they're just flying down the road, you know, in in um 506 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:08,120 basically as fast as cars. Um and it's that's kind of scary, too, but um and 507 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,000 you know, all the e-bikes and you know, things have just changed over the past 508 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:14,680 few years with the availability of all all of that 509 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:19,480 stuff. >> Certainly. Yeah, we do have data on that 510 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:25,280 in those crash reports. Um we break out the users by uh mode to the extent that 511 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,520 we're able. Uh as to mention before, you know, the officers have certain 512 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,000 categories they can report uh crashes as. 513 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,640 So, some things get aggregated like, you know, mopeds and scooters are kind of, 514 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,440 you know, similar, so they get aggregated in the 515 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:45,240 data, but yeah, I think these days it's mostly 516 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:48,480 those e-scooters, not as many mopeds. But, who knows? Maybe in the future 517 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,160 everyone will be on scooters and we won't have crashes anymore. You know, 518 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,440 really supposed to have lower speed crashes than other vehicles. So. 519 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,960 » Hey, did we get any comments from either of our streams on Facebook or YouTube? 520 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:26,960 » You're not seeing any. >> Okay. Well, I think we've given a a fair 521 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,560 opportunity for everyone on the streams to come in as well. 522 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:35,840 So, with that we can go ahead and move on to adjournment. Um just to be formal, 523 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,640 go ahead and take a motion for adjournment. 524 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,720 » So, moved. >> I'll second you. 525 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,320 » This is Deanna. >> Okay, so 526 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,920 I think between all >> three moves here. 527 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,440 » Yeah, between Steve, Deanna, and Lynn, we I 528 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,160 think we have at least a motion and a second there. 529 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:57,520 » A second, yeah. >> Um so 530 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:02,080 uh with unless there are any objections, I think we can go ahead and adjourn. So, 531 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,080 any objections to adjournment? >> None. 532 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,320 Have a good evening. Thank you guys for all your hard work. 533 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:15,360 » objections, so we'll go ahead and adjourn, and we will see you uh at our 534 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:18,560 next meeting in December on the 9th. Everybody have a great evening. 535 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,160 » Thank you so much. >> Thank you.