[0:13] We are live.
>> Okay.
[0:16] Hello everyone and welcome to the
Citizens Participation Committee meeting
[0:19] for September 9th, 2026.
Uh we're going to go ahead and start off
[0:25] by uh doing a quick roll call so that I
make sure that I have a record of
[0:29] everyone who's here.
Um so I'll go ahead and call your name
[0:33] and you can just let me know that uh you
are indeed here. So Steve Klevenger.
[0:37] » Present.
>> Stewart Frescas.
[0:41] » Present.
>> Gene Croshan.
[0:45] » Here.
>> And Lynn Nelson.
[0:48] » Here.
>> All right. Is there anybody else that I
[0:51] missed that I'm not seeing online?
[0:59] Okay, it doesn't appear that there's
anyone else that's joined us yet. So
[1:02] we'll go ahead and get started with the
program. So the first item is to approve
[1:06] minutes
from our previous meeting. Uh so I'd
[1:11] start by entertaining a motion
to approve those minutes unless there
[1:14] are any questions or corrections. Yeah,
okay, thank you Lynn.
[1:18] So we have a motion for approval from
Lynn and a second from Steve. Uh so
[1:22] we'll go ahead and do a roll call vote.
Uh Steve Klevenger.
[1:25] » Yes.
>> Stewart Frescas.
[1:29] » Yes.
>> Gene Croshan.
[1:32] » Yes.
>> And Lynn Nelson.
[1:35] » Yes.
>> All right. Uh the motion carries. The
[1:38] minutes are approved.
So now we're going to go ahead and get
[1:43] into some of the items that we have to
bring to you tonight.
[1:48] So the first one is um
regarding the Northern Corridor
[1:53] Connection Study
or the US 231 study. Um so this is
[1:57] something that we try to give you guys a
quarterly update on.
[2:01] So I always like to start with just
setting the background information for
[2:05] this and reminding everyone that
as of right now, INDOT has not yet
[2:10] committed to any kind of a project. So
it is still uncertain if one will happen
[2:14] or not. It is also possible that if a
project does happen, it will not be
[2:20] officially US 231. It could be a
connector road under local control. So
[2:25] that's why we do refer to that project
as the northern corridor connection.
[2:30] So sometimes that can be confusing for
people because I think most people do
[2:34] think of it as US 231, but just to kind
of keep everything straight, we do call
[2:39] it officially the northern corridor
connection.
[2:42] I will also mention that no official
routes have been determined. Anything
[2:48] that you see on a map is just a
conceptual placeholder. Before any final
[2:54] determination of
alignment would be made,
[2:58] you need to do extensive engineering
work and public outreach. So for
[3:04] example, what I have shown here is from
our Wabash Township plan. And
[3:11] what that shows again is just
conceptual. And before anything would be
[3:15] finalized,
there has to be a lot of work that has
[3:19] yet to be done. So just want to keep
that in mind as we
[3:23] continue on with our discussion. So the
process for this
[3:28] is phase one, which is a white paper,
which will determine all the work that
[3:33] must be completed before a project can
begin, before anything can start. And
[3:38] then after that, there needs to be a
full engineering study. The exact type
[3:43] and scope of that study is not yet
known. It will be determined by the
[3:48] white paper.
The reason for that is that there are
[3:52] several different potential
types of studies you can use for a
[3:56] transportation project and we want to
get the best match for our specific
[4:01] situation.
And in order to do that, we need to do
[4:04] some kind of background work, which will
happen in phase one.
[4:07] Uh so phase three, uh which I have
marked as a question mark, uh is project
[4:12] development construction. So there are
several challenges that would have to be
[4:15] overcome before this happens. Um
coordination with different
[4:19] jurisdictions, um finding funding for
that project, which would probably be
[4:22] the biggest hurdle, um as well as a lot
of other work that would have to be
[4:26] done. Um so if all those challenges can
be overcome, the project would likely be
[4:31] constructed in multiple phases and it
would take many, many years to complete.
[4:35] So this isn't something that's going to
be happening tomorrow
[4:38] uh or next month or next year. It'll
still be a few years down the road, at
[4:42] least.
So this is kind of where the update
[4:47] portion really comes in. So where are we
in the process?
[4:51] Um so we're kind of still just before
phase one. We have posted an RFP
[4:57] um and we are expecting to receive some
proposals for that from some engineering
[5:01] firms. Proposals are due on September
21st, so coming up here in just a couple
[5:06] weeks.
Um we have kind of in preparation for
[5:11] that assembled a scoring committee. Um
so this committee scoring committee will
[5:16] have representatives from APC, the
county, West Lafayette, and Lafayette.
[5:20] Um each member will receive a copy of
each proposal that we receive and they
[5:27] will give them a score from zero to 100
points based on some metrics that were
[5:32] published in our RFP. Um and then we
will aggregate those scores um and the
[5:38] consulting firm with the best total
score will be awarded the project.
[5:43] Um so we're kind of getting ready for
that. We have a pre-meeting scheduled
[5:47] next week to go over that with all our
members of the selection committee to
[5:52] make sure that everyone
understands
[5:56] what the scoring criteria are and all
those kinds of things.
[5:59] Um so that's where we are right now and
I wanted to kind of give a little
[6:03] preview for our next meeting. So by the
next meeting
[6:08] that we have in 3 months, we will know
which firm has been selected to perform
[6:13] this work and it's possible that there
will be a little bit of work completed
[6:18] or starting.
So we might have something to share. I'm
[6:21] not 100% sure where we'll be in the
process at that point. It kind of
[6:25] depends on
how fast of a start the
[6:29] selected firm is is able to get on the
project. Um but within the next couple
[6:35] meetings we should have some more
significant updates and and be reaching
[6:39] out to people with uh
opportunities for feedback.
[6:44] Um so kind of as usual, I also want to
make sure that everyone knows where they
[6:49] can get updates on this. Certainly by
coming to this committee meeting, that's
[6:53] one place to get updates.
We are also posting updates on the APC
[6:58] website, which I have listed on this
slide. Um additionally, the local media
[7:03] often picks up on some of this type of
stuff. Um
[7:07] so you should be able to see some of
that in your favorite local media
[7:11] source.
Um are there any questions about this?
[7:21] » Sounds like a good start.
[7:25] » Yes, thank you. We We think so too so
far, so
[7:29] hopefully we'll be able to get off the
ground and running and we'll be able to
[7:33] get some really good public feedback on
this and
[7:36] see what we need to do or or maybe not
do.
[7:44] » Okay. Uh so it sounds like there's no
other questions or comments. Um unless
[7:48] Arya, was there anything that we got
from our streams on Facebook or YouTube?
[7:56] » Let me see. No public comment on
Facebook or YouTube at this time.
[8:01] » Okay, thank you.
Um so we'll go ahead then and move on to
[8:04] our next item, which is the uh
pedestrian bicycle
[8:09] crash or the pedestrian crash analysis,
rather.
[8:12] Um so this is a report uh that we
recently completed and posted um
[8:17] on our website. We do have a link in the
packet to this. Uh if you're interested
[8:21] in going through the full report, um it
is long enough that I'm not going to
[8:25] necessarily be going through everything.
I'm just going to kind of hit some of
[8:28] the highlights, and then we'll take
questions at the end.
[8:31] So I'm going to go ahead and start right
here
[8:34] uh with some of the the key findings
from this report. Um and what I really
[8:39] want to highlight is that first of all,
less than 1% of all crashes in
[8:44] Tippecanoe County involve a pedestrian.
So this isn't necessarily a frequent
[8:49] occurrence among our crashes,
but unfortunately, it is a potentially
[8:55] very harmful one. Because when a
pedestrian crash does occur, um
[8:59] pedestrians do sustain an injury 85.9%
of the time when involved in a crash,
[9:06] which obviously is not great. That's a
very high percentage um of injury, so
[9:11] um and sometimes it's actually even
worse, of course. Um fortunately, there
[9:15] have been eight fatalities um in the
period that this report considers, which
[9:18] was 2018 to 2022.
Um so over that period, you know, eight
[9:23] fatalities is eight more than we would
like to see.
[9:27] Um but unfortunately, they do happen.
So kind of going on to some of the
[9:33] high-level summary data, I'm skipping
over a little bit here, but
[9:37] Uh so we have on page five of the report
kind of just some general overview of
[9:44] what we're seeing in crashes.
So table one and figure one kind of are
[9:49] displaying the same data in different
ways. We often like to do this in our
[9:53] reports where some
people are able to process the data a
[9:57] little bit better in tabular form,
whereas other people are a little more
[10:01] visual and might prefer a graphic.
So really what we're seeing is that
[10:06] things are fairly consistent across the
five years of this report in terms of
[10:11] number of crashes with the exception of
2020 and 2021
[10:15] where they take a significant dip and we
believe that the reason for that was
[10:20] likely just because of COVID. People
weren't traveling in the same way. It
[10:24] really impacted a lot of different data.
So with more people staying at home and
[10:29] fewer people
driving and perhaps not as many people
[10:33] walking in some of the same areas as
especially the Purdue campus as it would
[10:37] have been in other years. We believe
that explains kind of the
[10:41] decrease in those years. But other than
that, the number of pedestrian crashes
[10:45] has mostly been in the the 30s
from 2018 to 2022 there.
[10:52] So skipping ahead a little bit farther
to page 12 in our report. So this is
[10:58] where we kind of look at different times
of the day when pedestrian crashes might
[11:02] occur.
And I think this is probably about what
[11:06] you would kind of expect to see from
this sort of data. Early in the morning,
[11:10] you know, 12:00 a.m. you will get a few
crashes that do happen. Those are you
[11:14] know, perhaps people
walking out around after a late night of
[11:19] activities, but not too many. And then
there is a significant peak in the
[11:24] morning between 7:00 and 8:00 a.m. as
well as kind of an afternoon/evening
[11:29] peak period there sort of between 3:00
p.m. and 8:00 p.m. with a little bit of
[11:34] fluctuation there. Um when you get
people going out around dinner time,
[11:38] after work, uh
taking a walk, that kind of thing.
[11:43] Um but even other than that, uh
throughout the daytime hours, there are
[11:47] still several crashes.
Um and some of those, of course, are on
[11:52] the Purdue University campus,
um which we will get into a little more
[11:56] later.
Uh but moving ahead to page 18 of the
[12:01] report.
So, this shows um the location of
[12:05] injury, incapacitating injury, and
fatality crashes.
[12:08] So, I mentioned earlier that there's a
very high chance that if someone is
[12:12] involved in a pedestrian crash,
that it will at least be an injury, if
[12:17] not worse.
So, the way to read this map, uh figure
[12:21] 11 here that I'm showing, is the larger
the size of the dot on the map, uh the
[12:27] more severe the crash is.
So, if we look down at the legend here,
[12:30] the large orange dots are the
fatalities. Incapacitating injuries are
[12:35] kind of I think that's olive green, I'll
call that color.
[12:39] Uh and then injuries are blue. Um and
then the the smallest one are pedestrian
[12:44] crashes with no injury, which there
aren't very many of.
[12:49] Uh moving ahead to pages 29 to 35.
Uh so, we have here a series of
[12:57] different maps once I get down to them,
uh which kind of show some differences
[13:02] uh in where the crashes are actually
located.
[13:06] Um so, I think again, this is pretty
intuitive as to what you would expect.
[13:09] This first figure kind of shows that
most of them are within the city limits
[13:15] um of Lafayette or West Lafayette. Uh
there are certainly a few outside of the
[13:19] city limits, out in the county. Um and
some of those that are out in the county
[13:23] uh are often along state roads or uh
busier area busier uh county roads with
[13:29] higher traffic.
Um and unfortunately some of those that
[13:33] are out in the more rural areas are some
of our more severe ones,
[13:37] uh which is unfortunate.
Um so if we go to figure 17, which is on
[13:41] the next page, so this kind of shows
where they're occurring in Lafayette. Um
[13:46] so there are of course several that
occur in the downtown and near downtown
[13:50] area. And then other than that, you can
kind of look along some of the major
[13:54] corridors and you see uh perhaps like
9th Street, 18th Street for instance,
[13:59] that there are kind of some along those
north-south routes for example, um as
[14:03] well as several others.
Uh similarly, we also have
[14:08] a map for West Lafayette.
And again, as you would expect, most of
[14:12] these are
uh concentrated in the campus or near
[14:16] campus area.
Um there are a few up by Salisbury
[14:20] Street,
uh kind of a little farther north in
[14:23] West Lafayette as well. Uh some near US
52/Sagamore Parkway, special 52,
[14:29] whatever you want to call that road,
as well.
[14:32] Um and then we do also have a specific
map just for the Purdue University area
[14:38] as well. Um so I kind of highlight those
to say that, you know, if you want to go
[14:42] back and look at those later, um if
there is an area um you're particularly
[14:46] interested in, I would suggest doing
that. There's a lot of good information
[14:49] in this report. Uh and I think that
those particular maps uh that I just
[14:54] went through are probably
a pretty good starting point um to look
[14:58] at.
So moving on to kind of some of the next
[15:01] stuff, so on page 37, so what this is is
this is pedestrian crashes by specific
[15:08] location. So
with vehicle crashes, they're almost
[15:13] always on a road or in a parking lot, um
but unfortunately, pedestrians can be
[15:19] hit in other places such as driveways,
uh along the shoulder of the road, um
[15:24] sometimes even when they're along a
sidewalk, or in an alley,
[15:28] etc.
So, by far the most common one you'll
[15:33] see there is the the blue dots, which
are
[15:36] when there are pedestrians crossing in
an intersection. That's by far the most
[15:41] dangerous spot for a pedestrian and
where you'll see the largest number.
[15:46] But, there are several other
places where pedestrian crashes can
[15:50] occur. And some of that is shown in this
map. There's also, of course, some
[15:54] explanation and analysis in the text
about that as well that I think is good
[15:59] reading for those that are interested.
So, then I'd like to go ahead and
[16:03] » Quick question.
>> Yep, go ahead.
[16:05] » What What is I mean, I understand you've
got sidewalk and you've got um
[16:11] the shoulder. What does road mean?
>> Yes. So, road I'm going to go back here.
[16:18] it was this one. Yeah. I think Yes.
So, road is when someone was maybe like
[16:26] walking by the side of the road or they
weren't in like a marked crosswalk
[16:31] or um
>> Jaywalking?
[16:33] » in an intersection. Yeah, so it could be
like a mid-block jaywalking, yes. Um I
[16:37] think I'm actually on the wrong map. It
was this one I was looking at. Um
[16:41] yeah, so something along those lines.
Um
[16:45] yeah.
[16:47] So, the the green ones there. And then
sometimes there are
[16:52] just kind of some unusual circumstances
where maybe someone had
[16:57] just gotten out of a a parked car and
or something like that and someone
[17:02] didn't see him. It could be So, road is
a little bit of a the broadest category.
[17:07] When So, this information is taken from
officers' crash reports.
[17:11] Um and they do only have certain
categories they can select from. So,
[17:16] sometimes road is used as kind of a
catch-all category.
[17:21] » Got you. Thank you.
>> Yeah, good question, Steve.
[17:25] Okay. So, then the last thing I wanted
to highlight
[17:28] was this, which is the last page of the
report, the initial recommendations
[17:31] page. Um so, we're recommending to
continue to discuss these findings with
[17:36] local government engineers and law
enforcement. Uh
[17:41] which will hopefully ultimately lead to
identifying potential safety projects.
[17:46] Um and then similarly discuss some of
this information with the Indiana
[17:50] Department of Transportation.
Same idea working with them to develop
[17:54] potential improvement projects.
Uh we'd also like to take this to the
[17:59] West Lafayette and Lafayette Bicycle and
Pedestrian Citizen Committees that they
[18:03] have.
Um and as a staff, we often do a lot of
[18:09] additional analysis.
So, we're going to continue to to do
[18:13] some crash analysis work on this as
well. This isn't the only work we're
[18:17] doing on bicycle and pedestrian type of
crashes. Um
[18:21] So, we do have some more work in the the
pipeline to do to continue to analyze
[18:26] this and try to find ways to make our
roads safer for everyone who's trying to
[18:31] use them, not just for those that are
traveling in vehicles, but making it
[18:35] safer for everyone.
Are there any other questions about this
[18:40] report?
>> Any information
[18:43] » Go ahead.
>> Um yeah, Stewart Freestone here.
[18:46] My gut feeling is that the situ you
know, just as you stated, that the
[18:52] situation is not getting worse, you
know, uh and this is as a cyclist, you
[18:58] know,
frequent cyclist, that
[19:01] you know, things are pretty even and
maybe ever so slightly better than they
[19:06] once were. So, that that's just my
comment.
[19:11] » Okay, yep. Thank you, Stewart. I would
say that
[19:14] the numbers kind of being fairly
consistent other than the
[19:19] anomaly that we had because of COVID
does kind of verify that, but we'd
[19:23] certainly like to get that down,
especially the
[19:26] injury and fatality numbers are what
we'd really like to get down.
[19:32] » Is there a reason you stopped in 2022
with the data?
[19:38] » Well, when we started working on this
project, that was what was available to
[19:44] us.
We will continue to do these
[19:47] periodically. So, there will be
a specific deep dive on this.
[19:53] Part of the reason
why it's taken a few years for this to
[19:56] come out
is that our staff has had some other
[20:01] different kinds of crash analysis
they've been working on
[20:04] that are kind of more high-level and for
other projects. So, this one got pushed
[20:10] a little bit to the back burner just
because of some other priorities.
[20:18] » Any information on distracted walking?
People just staring at their cell phones
[20:22] and not paying attention.
>> Well, I'm sure that absolutely is
[20:26] happening. Unfortunately, it's
a Yeah, it's a little hard to get that
[20:30] information. The only way we would have
that is if
[20:34] the officer would note that in the
narrative section of the crash report.
[20:40] And I would imagine that most people are
pretty unwilling to admit if they were,
[20:46] you know, texting and walking or
changing their music and walking or you
[20:50] know, whatever.
So, I would imagine that any information
[20:54] we get would be
kind of under accounting that issue, so
[21:00] to speak.
[21:06] Other questions?
[21:15] All right. Well, hearing none, we're
going to go ahead and move on to our
[21:17] next item.
Uh so, that is the Wea and Sheffield
[21:21] Township plan.
Um so, this is something that our
[21:25] current planning staff has been working
on. They are um studying the future for
[21:30] the unincorporated areas of Wea and
Sheffield Townships
[21:34] uh in the hopes to create a land use
plan that will guide development as it
[21:38] occurs in those areas.
Um the draft plan, which is what uh
[21:43] I have on the screen there,
has been presented to the public for
[21:46] comments at two open house events in
July and was also posted on our website
[21:51] uh through the end of August for
comment. Um so, the public comment
[21:54] period has wrapped up.
Um there is a steering committee that
[21:58] was formed as part of this plan. Um
they're reviewing the draft for any
[22:02] additional edits.
Uh the plan is for APC staff to present
[22:07] this uh whatever the the final version
of the plan is with those edits
[22:11] um to the Area Plan Commission at their
meeting on October 21st.
[22:15] Uh and then, assuming that that
goes through, then the County
[22:19] Commissioners will be voting to adopt it
at their November meeting.
[22:23] Um so, briefly, just kind of want to go
through some of what's in this plan at a
[22:27] very high level
um by looking at the table of contents.
[22:30] So, there is kind of an introduction.
Um there is so, profiles. What that
[22:36] means is that's kind of the current
situation.
[22:40] Um so, and then it gives some
information. So, I'm kind of scrolling
[22:42] through this pretty quickly, but it
gives some information
[22:46] um just about what the current situation
is
[22:49] uh in terms of zoning uh as well as
condition of existing structures,
[22:55] building occupancy, um information about
historic structures, uh uh, those types
[23:00] of things.
Um we have a a list there of historic
[23:03] properties that you see.
Uh, we have uh, information about trails
[23:07] and parks, those kinds of things.
Um, so there is a lot of good stuff in
[23:11] here. I know I'm going through this very
quickly. This isn't intended to be a
[23:14] full
explanation of this. Uh, then goals,
[23:18] objectives, and strategies kind of talks
about, uh,
[23:21] what we'd like to do. So, we gathered a
lot of these
[23:24] uh,
five goals here, uh, based on some of
[23:27] the public input sessions we had uh,
with input as well from our steering
[23:31] committee.
And then based on that, we have some
[23:35] recommendation for, uh, transportation
improvements in chapter four
[23:39] as well as,
uh, suggested land uses.
[23:46] Which I'm trying to scroll down to.
Yeah, chapter five, uh, future land
[23:49] uses, I guess is what we called it. Um,
so this kind of will help
[23:53] guide us, uh, when there are properties
that come up for potential re-zones or
[23:57] projects. One of the thing our staff
things our staff always looks at when
[24:02] we're representing,
uh, things to the the plan commission,
[24:06] um, and giving a recommendation,
is we look at the comprehensive plan.
[24:10] And because it'd been a while since we,
uh, in Sheffield Townships have been
[24:13] looked at, uh, we felt that that needed
to get updated. So, that's, uh, a lot of
[24:18] the impetus for this plan. So, there's a
lot of good information in here as well
[24:22] as some documentation of the public
comments we received in the appendices,
[24:27] uh, here in chapter six.
Which again, I'm not going to go through
[24:30] all this, um, but I just wanted to let
everyone know
[24:33] that it is available. So, if you want to
go over this, uh, and look through it
[24:37] for specific questions on your own time,
uh, that's great. And like I said,
[24:42] October 21st, uh, is the date where it's
supposed to go to the plan commission.
[24:47] So, I would encourage you, um, if that's
something you're interested in,
[24:51] to be present at that, uh, meeting on on
21st and to, come prepared with any
[24:57] comments you have.
I think that would would be great for
[25:01] our staff. So, any questions about this?
[25:15] Okay, I'm not hearing any, so I'm going
to go ahead and move on to our next
[25:19] agenda item, which is the public
participation plan. And I'm actually
[25:23] going to turn it over to Arya, who's
going to let us know where we're at with
[25:26] that. So,
[25:30] » Yeah.
Let me get my screen sharing figured
[25:34] out. It's
[25:38] might have to disable yours first.
[25:45] Oh.
[25:52] Okay, so hopefully you can see my screen
here.
[25:55] So, the public participation plan
uh
[25:59] was something we brought up at our
previous
[26:02] CBC meeting.
And at that time we kind of gave you an
[26:05] overview of what it was, what we were
doing with it.
[26:08] And now we have a first draft.
And the public comment period for it is
[26:13] open. So, on our website you can find
the draft.
[26:17] We're taking public comment on it
through various means, including this
[26:20] committee.
Um but you know, email, call,
[26:24] uh
I guess post on our social media.
[26:27] Oh, it feels weird to say that. Anyway,
so I'll just kind of reintroduce this
[26:32] really briefly. So, the public
participation plan kind of guides
[26:37] how we interact with the public, and how
we
[26:40] uh
gather pub- public information, uh
[26:43] particularly how we do our outreach.
So, this document is a document we've
[26:49] had since I think it's 2017.
We made significant updates to it in
[26:53] 2021.
And now here we are again, you know,
[26:57] about 5 years later, 2026, updates
again. So,
[27:01] uh we need to constantly
uh refine our processes and, you know,
[27:06] pay attention to what we're hearing from
the public as well as
[27:08] implementing things we've learned. So,
we'll keep updating this plan as we
[27:12] continue to improve our processes.
So, significant changes from the last
[27:19] one,
I would say not too many.
[27:23] Our
2021 plan
[27:26] uh came out just after COVID. So, it did
include some
[27:31] changes for, you know, social distancing
and all the
[27:36] uh challenges we faced during that era.
Um
[27:41] but generally the methods of public
outreach that we designed in that plan
[27:47] uh are still applicable today.
And, you know, we haven't
[27:52] altered those too much.
Uh we have added a few things and I
[27:57] think crucially for this plan
on the wake of very recent events, we've
[28:03] um
removed I won't say removed. We've made
[28:07] it clear what we won't do also. So,
in any case, this document is a little
[28:14] bit shorter and briefer than previous
document. So, we know the public doesn't
[28:19] want to read long complicated plans.
We've simplified the language a bit. We
[28:23] shortened it up.
And we've also included a little bit
[28:26] more explanatory information about who
uh we are and what we do at APC. And,
[28:35] you know, you would on the committee
here know, but you know, the public
[28:38] maybe doesn't know that we are the
metropolitan transportation
[28:41] organization for our area.
And what we do is kind of
[28:46] guide transportation funding and how
it's spent on projects. That's our role
[28:50] here. So, the public feedback that we
can best use are those based on
[28:56] transportation projects. So, this plan
kind of covers that and hopefully will
[29:01] make it clear to everybody, you know,
what we can really implement
[29:06] um
for our office in particular.
[29:10] So, we introduced ourselves. We talked
about our goals. These specific goals we
[29:15] worked on before, those haven't really
changed
[29:19] uh since last plan. You know, these were
based on public comments before. We're
[29:23] taking public comments again if anybody,
you know, suggests new goals or
[29:28] improvements to these, but
um
[29:32] those are the same as before.
And I've listed a number of ways public
[29:37] can contact us.
Quite a few.
[29:41] And I think the biggest
change here is I mentioned before. So,
[29:46] the methods we're using to reach the
public are very similar to before. You
[29:49] know, we have a variety of methods in
person, digital, print media, and I
[29:54] pulled out audio this time as well.
Uh it was We did use these methods
[29:59] before, but I made them more prominent
to note that we have both visual, audio,
[30:04] and, you know, in-person methods.
Uh but personally,
[30:10] uh some things direct text message
direct text messages
[30:14] um we're stating that we won't be using
that outreach method.
[30:19] And I think direct phone calls also,
yes.
[30:23] Um you know, there's been some scams
going around recently
[30:28] involving
uh you know, our office and other
[30:31] offices, I guess.
So, we just want to make it clear how we
[30:35] won't reach out to you. You know, if
you're being told things from those
[30:38] methods, that's not our office.
Uh which isn't just as just as important
[30:43] as saying how we will reach out, so.
We've changed that.
[30:47] And
I think word of mouth is also a new
[30:51] topic.
We didn't explicitly mention word of
[30:53] mouth outreach before, but
you know, this can be a very good way of
[30:57] reaching people
um
[31:01] in the social circles and methods that
already exist that, you know, maybe
[31:06] social media or
our traditional outreach outreach
[31:09] methods wouldn't
uh connect with.
[31:15] And also
that's I mean that's the whole the plan
[31:19] really is the techniques and methods.
The rest of this is just uh
[31:23] background information, which I think is
helpful to people who are maybe, you
[31:27] know, don't know what we do or don't
know exactly what we're asking for or
[31:30] why. So, I cover the plans that we
create, so like the MTP,
[31:35] metropolitan met- metropolitan
transportation plan,
[31:38] transportation improvement plan, and
thoroughfare plan,
[31:41] this plan, public participation plan.
And we do have other plans as well, but
[31:46] those are kind of the the primary ones
that you probably have all heard about
[31:49] before and that we discuss the most in
public.
[31:52] And I talk about the committees we have,
you know, this is just one of three.
[31:57] Public is welcome to attend and comment
at all of them. You know, this is just
[32:00] our kind of public-centric one.
And also some timelines just to give the
[32:05] public kind of a general expectation.
These are not set in stone. Please don't
[32:10] Don't quote these.
Um, but you know, generally our office
[32:14] we know
you know, to an extent what the future
[32:18] holds and when we need to update plans.
So, let you know when we expect those
[32:23] uh dates to be ahead of time, I think is
also useful.
[32:28] So, that's
basically this whole draft. Oh, no, no,
[32:31] sorry. This is very important. Also,
evaluation. This is, you know, part of
[32:34] why we're doing this update. We have to
evaluate what we're doing and
[32:38] uh update it as we learn and and grow.
So, very crucial part of the process.
[32:44] The rest of this document is just
appendices about, you know, who we
[32:47] outreach to.
Um,
[32:50] you know, people that are hard to reach,
very important, some background
[32:54] demographic data on our community.
And some forms for people that, you
[32:59] know, would like to kind of
give us feedback in a more formalized
[33:03] way. Some people appreciate that.
Um,
[33:08] and
legal requirements,
[33:13] and just data about our boards and who's
on them currently. So, that's the whole
[33:17] plan.
It
[33:20] does look like it's 28 pages, but the
meat of it is just like under 10 pages.
[33:24] So, you know, please, if you'd like to
comment, it's not hard to read. I made
[33:28] it hopefully very easy to read. So,
please, you know,
[33:32] we want to hear from you how you want to
hear from us.
[33:36] That's all I have. Any questions,
comments?
[33:52] » Looks good.
>> Wonderful, thank you. Even just that is
[33:57] helpful to hear, too. You know, if you
don't have any changes to me, just
[34:00] hearing that this is good, we appreciate
that. You know, it shows that we're
[34:04] we're doing things right and we want to
keep doing them the correct way. So,
[34:07] thank you.
[34:13] And if the community doesn't have any
other comments,
[34:17] I'm not seeing any on Facebook or
YouTube this time, either.
[34:23] Okay.
>> Okay.
[34:26] Uh, well, I guess I'll go ahead and take
it over and uh, kind of wrap this up
[34:30] here.
Um, so, we have reached the point in our
[34:33] agenda where we are ready for any
additional questions or comments that we
[34:38] missed before.
So we'll certainly give the stream a
[34:44] minute or so to catch up.
But during that time is there anything
[34:48] else from the committee that you guys
would like to to ask about that we might
[34:52] have missed earlier?
[34:56] » Well, nothing about what you've missed
but I've been driving my
[35:00] grandson over because he's working over
at Purdue and
[35:03] the distracted distracted pedestrian is
really a thing where
[35:08] they're you know looking at their phones
and not paying much attention
[35:12] when they're crossing the streets and
stuff. It's kind of terrifying at times.
[35:19] » Yeah, definitely is.
An issue especially with you know, we
[35:24] have so many students now at Purdue is
as far as I know it's the second largest
[35:29] Big Ten school in terms of enrollment
behind Ohio State. So definitely a lot
[35:33] of
young people moving around on on campus.
[35:38] » I know at one time they had crossing
guards for the Purdue students.
[35:42] For at least a short period of time. I
don't think they still do that but
[35:51] » Well, during boiler rush they have their
guides you know with their
[35:54] » Yeah.
>> Yeah, but other than that and and boiler
[35:58] rush was another whole thing but
he works over in Windsor. So it's been
[36:03] interesting and I'm
very thankful for the bypass you know
[36:07] with
going around on Harrison Street and that
[36:11] because it's rather than having to go
through State Street.
[36:32] » One thing that'll be interesting
when you get crash reports is the number
[36:37] of crashes at um
uh State Michigan
[36:41] um Boulevard and um 231. There seem to
be a lot of crashes there.
[36:50] » Yes, we do uh
work on
[36:54] more uh
full crash reports with with all the
[36:58] crashes, not just deep dives on
pedestrians.
[37:02] Um so, I don't know Ari if you had
anything you wanted to add about that
[37:05] specific intersection. I know you look
at the data a lot more than I do um in
[37:09] more depth, so.
>> Yeah, I mean
[37:14] uh I
don't want to talk off the top of my
[37:18] head here without firm numbers, but I
will say that yeah, our most recent
[37:22] crash report uh we pull out a lot of big
corridors uh directly in intersections,
[37:27] so you can look exactly at, you know,
State Street or Michigan Avenues or
[37:31] any of the big intersections there and
see exactly how many
[37:34] crashes there were in the past 5 years.
Um
[37:39] and our other reports that are not just
the pedestrian one are more up-to-date,
[37:43] so.
You can look at the whole history of all
[37:46] of our crash reports too on our website
if you want to see even older stuff,
[37:49] too.
>> Oh, and I'd be interested with the the
[37:53] scooters and that cuz and they're just
flying down the road, you know, in in um
[37:59] basically as fast as cars. Um and it's
that's kind of scary, too, but um and
[38:06] you know, all the e-bikes and you know,
things have just changed over the past
[38:09] few years with
the availability of all all of that
[38:12] stuff.
>> Certainly. Yeah, we do have data on that
[38:16] in those crash reports. Um we break out
the users by uh mode to the extent that
[38:22] we're able. Uh as to mention before, you
know, the officers have certain
[38:27] categories they can report uh crashes
as.
[38:30] So, some things get aggregated like, you
know, mopeds and scooters are kind of,
[38:35] you know,
similar, so they get aggregated in the
[38:37] data, but
yeah, I think these days it's mostly
[38:42] those e-scooters, not as many mopeds.
But, who knows? Maybe in the future
[38:47] everyone will be on scooters and we
won't have crashes anymore. You know,
[38:49] really supposed to have lower speed
crashes than other vehicles. So.
[39:10] » Hey, did we get any comments from either
of our streams on Facebook or YouTube?
[39:20] » You're not seeing any.
>> Okay. Well, I think we've given a a fair
[39:24] opportunity for everyone on the streams
to come in as well.
[39:28] So, with that we can go ahead and move
on to adjournment. Um just to be formal,
[39:34] go ahead and take a motion for
adjournment.
[39:39] » So, moved.
>> I'll second you.
[39:41] » This is Deanna.
>> Okay, so
[39:44] I think between all
>> three moves here.
[39:46] » Yeah,
between Steve, Deanna, and Lynn, we I
[39:49] think we have at least a motion and a
second there.
[39:51] » A second, yeah.
>> Um so
[39:55] uh with unless there are any objections,
I think we can go ahead and adjourn. So,
[39:59] any objections to adjournment?
>> None.
[40:04] Have a good evening.
Thank you guys for all your hard work.
[40:07] » objections, so we'll go ahead and
adjourn, and we will see you uh at our
[40:12] next meeting in December on the 9th.
Everybody have a great evening.
[40:17] » Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.