[0:00] [gavel] [0:03] We call the Englewood City Council meeting for September 8th, 2026 to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:09] I pledge allegiance to the flag [0:11] of the United States of America, [0:13] and to the Republic for which it stands, [0:16] one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:20] [chair scraping] [0:22] Will the clerk please call the roll? [0:24] Mayor Magrill? [0:25] Here. [0:26] Mr. Dardy? [0:27] Here. [0:28] Mr. Goff? [0:29] Here. [0:30] Mr. Haney? [0:31] Here. [0:32] Mr. Hillsman? [0:33] Here. [0:34] Mr. Rarick? [0:35] Mrs. Reepman? [0:36] Here. [0:38] Do I have a motion to excuse Councilman Rarick? [0:41] I moved that we excuse Council member Rarick. [0:43] I'll second that. [0:45] Any objections? [0:46] Call for the roll. [0:47] Motion and second to excuse Mr. Rarick from the meeting. [0:50] Mr. Goff? [0:51] Yes. [0:52] Ms. Magrill? [0:53] Yes. [0:54] Mr. Haney? [0:54] Yes. [0:55] Mrs. Reepman? [0:57] Yes. [0:57] Mr. Hillsman? [0:58] Yes. [0:59] Mr. Dardy? [1:00] Yes. [1:01] Motion approved. [1:02] [chair scraping] [1:04] You have before you the minutes from the minutes from the regular meeting and executive session for August 20, 20 August 25th. [1:09] Are there any corrections or additions? [1:12] No? [1:13] Stand as written. [1:14] Thank you. [1:15] All right. [1:18] At this point in time, we'll open it up for visitors communications. [1:21] And we have two proclamations tonight to give out, so. [1:24] Coming down to give us out and please bear with me. I mean, do no disrespect if I mispronounce a name, forgive me. [1:30] [laughter] [1:31] [paper rustling] [1:34] Ma'am, for the audience just have to open it. [1:37] [paper rustling] [1:38] Who's coming up to uh, to claim the proclamation for each one? [1:43] [inaudible] [1:44] Right, this will be the first one is the 13 to 14. [1:47] That's me. [1:49] Thank you. [1:50] [applause] [1:52] [camera shutter] [1:53] Whereas Englewood Little League provides opportunities for youth in our community to participate in an outstanding athletic league with a history of great success [2:01] and the Englewood ALL Junior Boys 13 to 14 All-Star team had a memorable and successful 2026 season. [2:10] And whereas the team competed in the Little League District Tournament play on June 28th [2:15] through July 1st, with first state in North Ridge and went on to become 2026 District 8 Tournament Champions. [2:23] Whereas as District Gate Champions, the Englewood Little League Junior Boys All-Star team earned a berth [2:28] to the Little League State Tournament held in Mason Ohio. [2:30] where they competed July 10th through the 18th, triumphed over Astabula and Shelby [2:35] to earn the State of Ohio Championship. [2:38] And whereas, the 2026 State of Ohio Junior Champions, the EL Junior Boys [2:43] All-Star team earned a berth to the Little League Regional Tournament held in Midland Michigan [2:48] where they competed for the Great Lakes Region title against Nebraska and Missouri, [2:53] where their season ended after exhibiting exceptional play. [2:57] And whereas the team was comprised of 13 players and their manager and coaches [3:01] representing Englewood Little League, with character, courage and loyalty. [3:06] Pierre Bradley, [3:07] Tanner Bowman, [3:08] Levi Buzzard, [3:09] Tanner Craig, [3:10] Noah Engle, [3:12] Sultan Faraj, [3:14] Landon Hill, [3:15] Colton Mezger, [3:17] Carter Schmidt, [3:18] Conor Smith, [3:20] Ashton Trimble, [3:21] Colin Tuny, [3:23] Rider White, [3:24] Manager Rob Schmidt, [3:26] Coach Ryan Mezger, and Coach Josh Buzzard. [3:29] Now, therefore, I Kathy Magrill, Mayor of the City of Englewood, [3:33] do hereby proclaim a great honor and recognition upon the three coaches and 13 players [3:37] of the Junior's Englewood Little League All-Star team [3:41] for their successful 2026 season on behalf of myself and the citizens of Englewood. [3:46] [applause] [3:53] We have extra copies of the proclamation. [3:55] If anybody wants to take one with them when you leave tonight. [3:58] Can we get the players to come up and stand by the coach and get a picture of them? [4:01] Sure. [4:04] Boys. [4:04] [laughter] [4:06] [camera shutter] [4:09] [camera shutter] [4:11] [laughter] [4:15] You want me to bite us? [4:16] Does it matter? [4:18] Okay. [4:18] Better picture, boys. [4:21] [camera shutter] [4:23] You guys did all the work, I'll let you hold this up for the picture. [4:26] You guys just made us look good. [4:28] [laughter] [4:30] Okay. [4:31] Okay. [4:32] [camera shutter] [4:34] [camera shutter] [4:37] [camera shutters] [4:42] Let me grab one real quick. I want the parents to make sure they had opportunity to do that for sure. [4:46] Congratulations, guys. [4:47] Excellent job. [4:48] Well done. [4:50] Thanks. [4:51] Thank you guys. [4:52] [applause] [5:00] And now the 9 to 10 minors, boys. [5:01] [laughter] [5:03] [paper rustling] [5:05] [inaudible] [5:08] Whereas Englewood Little League provides [5:09] opportunities for youth in our community [5:12] to participate in an outstanding athletic league [5:14] with a history of great success. [5:16] And the AL 910 minor boys [5:18] all-star team had a memorable and [5:20] successful 2026 season. [5:23] And whereas the team competed in Little League [5:25] district tournament play [5:26] on June 29th through July 6th, [5:28] winning over First Staton and Fairborn, [5:31] and went on to become 2026 District 8 [5:33] tournament champions. [5:35] And whereas District 8 champions, [5:37] the Englewood Little League 910 boys [5:40] all-star team earned a berth to the Little League [5:43] State Tournament held in Loveland, Ohio, [5:45] where they competed against teams from all over the [5:48] state of Ohio, where their season came to an end. [5:50] And whereas the team was comprised of 14 players [5:53] and their manager and coaches, [5:55] representing Englewood Little League with [5:57] character, courage, and loyalty. [5:59] Miles Baker, [6:00] Jackson Carver, [6:02] McKinley Clark, [6:03] Malik Farah, [6:05] Calvin Franklin, [6:06] Marcus Honda, [6:08] Alex Fair, [6:09] Adrian Ridgeway, [6:11] Tatum Robinson, [6:12] Elliot Rudd Miller, [6:14] Braden Shirley, [6:15] Bo Tuni, [6:17] Weston Welch, [6:18] Sawyer White, [6:20] manager Ian Ridgeway, [6:21] coach Roxanne Shirley, and Scott Welch. [6:25] Now therefore, I Kathy McGrell, mayor [6:28] of the city of Englewood, Ohio, [6:29] do hereby proclaim great honor [6:31] and recognition [6:32] upon the three coaches and 14 players [6:34] of 910 Englewood Little League [6:36] all-star team [6:38] for their successful 2026 season [6:40] on behalf of myself and the citizens of [6:42] Englewood, Ohio. [6:43] [applause] [6:56] [laughter] [7:19] All right. [7:20] [applause] [7:29] [laughter] [7:31] finish? [7:33] Thank you. Thank you. [7:35] We love for you to stay, you're welcome to go [7:37] if you'd like to, we understand. [7:40] At this time we will open it for visitors comments. [7:42] Is there anyone here that would like to speak to [7:44] council for anything that is not currently on the agenda? [7:49] Mr. Hughes, please come on up. [7:54] [beeping] [7:55] We do have a five-minute time limit. [7:57] Uh, I'll try to be quick. [7:58] [laughter] [8:09] All right, good evening. [8:10] I'm Eric Hughes, I'm the superintendent here [8:12] at Northmont. [8:13] Um, it's it's an honor to be here tonight. [8:15] Uh, look forward to working and meeting [8:17] each of you. [8:18] There's several of you that I I have met. [8:20] Uh, a lot of you guys I have not. [8:22] but what I wanted to speak on tonight was [8:24] um our facilities. [8:26] So we have a community forum coming up on [8:28] September 23rd [8:29] at 6:30 p.m. in the middle school gym. [8:33] Um, so I just wanted to give a little bit of back [8:36] story with that. [8:37] So we built our first two buildings in 2014 and 15 [8:40] with the collapse in the high school. [8:42] Um, and that was a partnership between the [8:44] schools and our local [8:45] taxpayers and the state through our Ohio [8:47] Facilities Construction Commission. [8:50] Uh, they've come back to us again to complete the [8:52] next phase of our project. [8:54] And have said, probably about the last five or [8:57] six years that, hey, [8:58] funding is available. [8:59] Um, we just need you to go through some processes [9:01] and see if you're [9:02] interested in in having that that opportunity. [9:07] Um, hasn't been the right timing, [9:09] uh, with everything with COVID, with property [9:11] taxes, with needing operational levies, [9:13] it just quite hasn't quite made sense. [9:16] Uh, but this, this last year they came to us [9:18] again and said, [9:19] if you defer again, you're going to go [9:21] to the bottom of our list. [9:22] And we don't know when your number will be [9:24] called again. [9:25] So we felt like instead of us making a decision, [9:27] um, to pass [9:29] and and pass up that money, it it just makes sense [9:31] to be able to come and and see what the [9:33] community would like to do. [9:35] So the the way they're wanting to fund it would [9:37] be 53% local [9:39] and 47% state. [9:40] So it's almost a 50/50 split, uh, for for [9:43] buildings again. [9:45] Um, prior to COVID, we had some community forums [9:47] where we we talked [9:48] to people about what were their interests, [9:50] what would they like, some survey data. [9:53] And that time it kind of showed a 6-8 middle [9:55] school and then one or [9:56] two uh 2 through 5 buildings. [9:58] So that's what we're exploring. [10:00] Uh, we're going to have three forums. The first [10:02] one is, like I said, [10:03] September 23rd at 6:30 at the middle school. [10:06] gym. Uh we'd love for everybody to be there. [10:08] We're gonna have another one November. I believe it's November 18th, [10:11] and then we'll have a final one in February. [10:14] Um, and then what will happen is the board will make a decision at the end of the year on [10:19] do we proceed with exploring this option for a new building. [10:25] You know, it would take a bond body for November of 27. [10:28] Uh, but we're not we're not there yet. [10:29] So we're kind of in the feedback and information gathering stage, [10:34] but want everybody to be able to be as informed as we can. [10:38] Um and want as many people to to be able to come to that form as possible. [10:42] So, like I said, we look forward to having you there. [10:44] Um, I know I'm I'm going around to all the city council meetings, I've met with all the mayors. [10:49] Um, and have a couple legislators I'm meeting with this week [10:52] to try to get as many people there as possible, [10:54] to get as much feedback as we can. [10:57] I think if you've been in our two through five buildings or if you've been in the middle school, [11:02] Uh, the newest one was 1969, I believe, is the newest one. [11:06] And I think the oldest is maybe 1963. [11:10] Um, there's not central air in most of them. [11:13] So this last couple weeks, we have, it's been a little taxing. [11:16] We have window units in most of our classrooms or all [11:18] of our classrooms that don't have central air. [11:21] Uh the gyms do not have air conditioning, the cafeterias don't have air conditioning. [11:25] Um, there's a lot, there's multiple things that we're looking at. [11:28] One is safety and security. [11:30] Um, when you walk in the clubs or you walk in the high school as a visitor, [11:34] There's a vestibule, you're buzzed into the office, [11:37] um and then you're there in the office. [11:38] When you walk in any of our elementary buildings or the middle school, [11:42] Um, the office is around the corner. [11:43] So we open that door and you just have access to the building. [11:46] And in today's day and age, safety of our students, safety of our staff, it's a big priority. [11:52] Um, equitable access for all of our learners, whether it's gifted, disadvantaged, [11:56] um, students with disabilities. [11:59] Uh, one of the things for me is Union and the middle school both have two stories. [12:04] There's not an elevator in either of those buildings. [12:06] So if a student or a staff member or a student or a staff member or a parent needs to get up to that second floor, [12:10] you don't really have a good access to get upstairs. [12:14] Um, and then what are the learning standards that we have today, [12:18] uh, especially with middle school with career exploration and [12:21] having to have opportunities that you would kind of have at your career center. [12:27] Um, you know, what do those classroom spaces look like today [12:29] with what we're, what we're looking for education-wise. [12:32] So again, uh, we'd love to have everybody there, uh, to try to get as much feedback as we can. [12:38] We'll have a survey that'll go out afterwards. [12:40] We're going to try to stream and maybe post the meeting after as well [12:45] for anybody that can't attend, but we'd love for everybody to be there. [12:48] So, thank you. [12:51] Thank you. [12:52] Is there anyone else that would like to speak to the council for anything not on the agenda? [12:56] Okay, if not, [12:57] We will close our visitors and communications portion and move on to ordinances and resolutions. [13:03] Will the clerk please read Resolution 22-26? [13:07] Resolution 22-26 authorizing the city manager to execute a contract [13:11] with DWA Recreation to design and install [13:14] a shelter structure over the existing entertainment pad at Centennial Park. [13:21] Do I have a motion? [13:24] Mr. Gov? [13:25] Move for adoption of Resolution 26-26. [13:30] Thank you. [13:31] 22-26. [13:33] Is there a second? [13:35] Uh, can we discuss it more after the second? [13:38] I'll second it. [13:40] Okay, now at this point, [13:41] I'll open up for discussion and questions. [13:44] Can you give us a little background on this, Mr. Manager? [13:47] Yeah, so um, in the 2026 CIP plan, there was $70,000, [13:51] um, budgeted for playground and park improvements. [13:57] Um, typically that is um used for playground replacement or enhancements. [14:03] Um, staff has determined that there was not a need for that improvement this year. [14:07] Um, so that money was, so staff looked at additional ways [14:11] that that money could be used to enhance our existing parks. [14:17] Um, so Mr. Cruz from the Heck Center, who as you know, is involved in the festival every year. [14:24] A reoccurring request has been some type of shelter or shade [14:28] over the entertainment pad at Centennial Park. [14:32] Um, so that was explored through a couple different means. [14:36] One we're looking at like sales, sunshail sun, sun sales, [14:42] uh to provide some shaded area. [14:46] The concern with that was the ongoing expense of replacing that and the wear and tear on those products. [14:50] So then they looked at a shelter structure, [14:52] um, and got a couple different quotes, trying to be as cost effective and still [14:57] within our range of capital funds, [15:01] and the one that's proposed is kind of the middle of the road. [15:05] um, it's a uh structure, a steel structure that would be 30 by 30. [15:10] The existing pad is 24, roughly 24x24. [15:13] so it's a little larger, and we'd provide a little more shade on the outskirts of the of the pad. [15:18] Um, but it's 8ft at the back and then slopes up to 16ft at the front. [15:23] and the the plan was that that would be installed in such a way that it [15:27] would provide that shaded area for any of the entertainers that are [15:29] performing at the park. [15:32] Um, would also allow us to expand the amount of events we do there with [15:36] because there are some some vendors and performers that have just uh [15:39] decided not to participate in events at the park because there's not [15:42] shade or there's not a way to cover their equipment and stuff should [15:45] there be inclement weather. [15:47] Um, so this was the proposal. [15:49] The picture that you have in front of you is predominantly what it would [15:51] look like. The only thing that staff would still decide upon would be the [15:54] final color of the roof structure. [15:56] So that's not necessarily what the color of the roof structure would [15:59] look like. [16:01] Uh we have a bunch of different options, that would be something [16:03] complimentary to the existing shelter that's that's nearby. [16:07] Um, but that's the overall, that's what it would look like upon [16:09] installation if we choose to go that route. [16:12] Yeah, I I like the idea and I think it it makes sense with the bands and [16:15] all, but I don't I don't love the design and as far as location. [16:18] I think we should maybe take a little time and and explore looking at the [16:21] whole park as an entertainment venue. [16:25] Uh, it seems like it's kind of pushed over to one side on the current pad. [16:28] Maybe we can open it up for that can accommodate larger audiences in the [16:31] future. [16:33] Yep, I mean, yep. [16:35] That's completely up to council, that's a a route you want to go. [16:38] I mean this this was just a uh way to get the this the structure that [16:41] provide the shade for the existing area, but if we want to look at [16:45] expanding it [16:48] to something more extensive. [16:50] That's always an option. [16:53] I also am for having something. [16:57] I don't like this, there's a pole right in the middle. [16:59] If this is meant for entertainment, there's a pole right in the middle [17:03] of them performing. [17:07] Um, and it would, if we chose to look at doing something different [17:10] with Centennial Park as a whole, that still aligns with our strategic plan, [17:14] which um one of the areas was more community events. [17:20] Um, we did a movie in the park this summer. [17:23] So I mean if we want to continue to, you know, offer different things. [17:28] Um, to the community, it might be good to just look at the park as a [17:31] whole and not just this one thing for um, the Fine Arts Festival. [17:36] But I'm not opposed to to something, I just don't like this. [17:41] I think I probably concur. I I like the idea of a shaded spot. [17:43] I'm not sure I'm nailed with the design. [17:47] And I'd rather we and I know you say maybe we have explored other options [17:50] that might be a little more expensive, [17:52] but and we take a bigger look at the big picture to see. [17:54] And I agree, I think we probably need the the shade, I just cover, I just. [17:59] And that will predominantly just cover the concrete pad itself, [18:02] nothing for the or guests or anything like that. [18:06] kind of like the phrase, something like that. [18:09] Where the phrase is covered, but everybody sits outside. [18:11] Mhm. [18:12] Yeah, this would just provide the coverage over the existing concrete [18:15] pad. [18:18] with the pole thing and importantly on that, you can get some sort of eve [18:21] on it to to do that. [18:23] If you, if we don't do this, what happens to the money then? [18:27] We just don't spend it. [18:29] We just keep it and hold on to it. [18:31] Yeah, there's there isn't a, I mean, there isn't a, I mean, there is not a time sensitive it would [18:34] be used for that because I'm still concerned about the wall. [18:38] And using the money for that instead of. [18:41] It's it has nothing to do with the wall. [18:43] Yeah, I get that. [18:44] But I'm saying if we don't use the money for that. [18:46] I get it, that has nothing. [18:47] So the the money the money that is in that is allocated in the CIP and [18:51] the and this year's budget [18:52] either has to be incumbered by the end of the calendar year. [18:55] the fiscal year or it just goes back into general fund. [19:00] So yeah, I mean it's there's and there's not a it's not like it's a [19:03] we have to spend it or lose it like a situation. [19:07] And I think we had, I thought Della had told us that there's a fund on [19:10] Main Street, correct? [19:14] There's a, well, if you're referring, yeah, there's a TIF fund uh that has [19:17] some remaining funds in it uh that was used for the the road for the [19:21] the wall stabilization project. [19:26] That fund is coming to the end of its of its collection period, so that [19:30] that money is limited and not growing. [19:33] This is 2026 and maybe 27. [19:37] I think we have one more payment in 27, but uh there's roughly [19:39] $350,000 left in that fund. [19:43] that we could use towards whatever we need to do with the wall. [19:46] Yes, because that's that's limited to a specific section of of Main Street. [19:50] Those funds have to be reinvested in that area of the TIF. [19:55] Not to change the subject from this, but the wall could be discussed after [19:58] this real quick because I don't want to in. [20:00] Okay. [20:02] Any other questions or. [20:04] comments on it's on. [20:05] Sir, can we table this until we maybe come up with a better. [20:08] We have to vote. We had a first and second, so we'll have to vote. [20:11] Okay. [20:13] So call for the vote at this point? [20:14] Are we voting on this design right now? [20:16] You vote on everything as this is written. [20:18] If you don't like it then it's a no. [20:21] Call for the vote. [20:22] Motion and second to adopt resolution 22-26, [20:25] Centennial Park shelter structure. [20:28] Ms. McGrail? No. [20:30] Mr. Haney? No. [20:31] Mrs. Repman? No. [20:33] Mr. Hillsman? No. [20:35] Mr. Darty? No. [20:36] Mr. Goff? No. Not approved. [20:41] All right. [20:42] City manager's report. [20:43] Thank you. [20:45] Um, a few things from uh, you should have in front of you, [20:48] but also just for the public's uh, knowledge, a reminder that this [20:51] Saturday is the third annual Parkinson's awareness walk [20:54] at Centennial Park. [20:55] It begins at 9:30 with a walk beginning at 10:30. [20:58] The event will include a one-mile walk, information booths, exercise [21:03] demonstrations, raffle and door prizes, and food trucks. [21:05] All proceeds from the event will be used to support local Parkinson's [21:09] disease programs. [21:10] Uh, Kroger Health will be hosting a flu shot clinic at the Earl Heck [21:14] Center this Friday, September the 11th from 10:00 to 11:30. [21:16] They will also be offering vaccines for pneumonia, RSV, shingles, [21:19] Tdap, COVID, and hepatitis A and B. [21:24] Appointments are required and can be made by calling the Heck Center. [21:28] And as of today, there are still appointments available. [21:31] Uh, the splash pad at Centennial Park is now closed for the season and will [21:35] reopen on Memorial Day weekend 2027. [21:37] Uh, we received nine applications for the Director of Service [21:41] uh position vacancy. [21:43] And that process is now closed [21:45] and we will begin the screening process for those uh applications. [21:47] Our annual street resurfacing program is well underway and the contractor [21:51] anticipates finishing this year's paving by week's end, weather permitting. [21:55] Uh, we have administered the first of three mosquito foggings at both Dawn [22:00] Ward Field and Carl Woods, [22:03] located at the south end of Centennial Park. [22:06] There will be two additional ones, uh, they're about three weeks apart. [22:09] So we will schedule those and uh, give public notice to those as before those [22:12] are administered. [22:16] Uh, September 2nd, the Planning Commission held their meeting. Uh, the board approved [22:20] a variance requests for Chick-fil-A at 1095 South Main Street. [22:23] The next step will be a submission of building permits, which will undergo [22:27] review by civil, city civil and traffic engineering. [22:29] Uh, the planning Commission also reviewed the downtown master plan and recommended [22:33] adoption of the plan to City Council at your next meeting [22:35] on September 22nd. [22:37] And there was also a conditional use uh on South Walnut Street that was [22:40] denied by the planning Commission. [22:43] Uh, the US 40 and State route 48 storm sewer improvements phase one [22:46] project was scheduled to begin this week. [22:49] Uh, we did not see the contractor today, so we hope they will be here [22:51] later this week. [22:54] Um, as I communicated to Council previously, our rescue 98 truck uh was is out of [22:58] service for some minor repairs and preventive maintenance. [23:02] Uh we hope to have it back by the end of this week, and we want to thank our [23:06] partners, the City of Trotwood for the City of Trotwood for the use of Reserve fire engine that we are [23:09] using to fill in for rescue 98. [23:15] Uh Finance staff is busy working on the 2027 operating and capital improvement [23:18] budgets, as well as the initial kickoff of the new finance software that you [23:21] approved at your last meeting. [23:23] Uh we've completed the implementation of the Doc access to our web page, which [23:26] complies with the Americans with Disabilities Act and provides for [23:30] transcribed, searchable and translated documents on the city's website. [23:34] And as we continue to grow the website, those will automatically become [23:37] compliant through the Doc access. [23:40] And then finally, we are currently working on the relaunch of a printed [23:43] newsletter that we anticipate being delivered to residents twice a year [23:46] with a fall winner edition being mailed to residents by early October. [23:50] And just a quick shout out to Marla who has handled both the Doc access program [23:53] but is also um coordinating the the newsletter coming up here soon. [23:57] So thank you to Marla for that. [24:02] And that's all I have. [24:03] If you have any questions for me. [24:08] Mayor's report, uh, really other than we have a first responders breakfast this coming [24:12] Sunday for police and fire, we're gonna have our apparatus there for pictures with [24:15] the kids. Other than that, [24:17] that's nothing new. [24:18] Boards and commissions, I know we just talked about planning commission, [24:20] anything you want to add to that? [24:22] Nope. [24:23] No at all. [24:24] All right. [24:26] Strategic plan. [24:27] I think the city manager covered it. [24:30] Old business, so just be have we gotten any progress on any more [24:33] quotes on that or [24:35] So we are still waiting a quote from [24:38] So ground systems, uh, who is our contractor for um our landscaping [24:41] maintenance at Maine and 70. [24:47] Um, they were contacted in addition to the one individual who gave us [24:51] the original conceptual drawings. [24:54] Uh, they have some concerns about just updating it, so we are waiting on their [24:57] updates. [24:59] Um, he originally said [25:02] he was hoping that by the end of this week we would have something back from them. Um, [25:07] but ground systems did their their proposal would be a very costly fix. [25:13] So the question is, [25:14] Was it the big the big rocks? [25:16] Yeah, that's that's re-establishing some uh tiered um [25:21] tiered structures on there with some additional landscaping uh to to separate the the the um stone. [25:28] Um, so we will we're waiting their proposal, um, but [25:33] But it's not that big. [25:35] It will it will exceed what is in the on that is definitely [25:38] definitely uh going to be a concern. [25:42] Is that our only [25:44] it's looking like we had two other requests that they have not responded to. [25:49] it's a very challenging area. [25:51] So I the other two landscapers that were contacted did not feel that they had the ability to address the issue. [25:59] that like the the rock shelves are kind of the looking like the only option we're going to have. [26:05] That is the opinion of the one one vendor, yes, [26:08] to to not, um, to not, uh, [26:12] destabilize the actual project that we did, which was the stabilization of of the limestone behind the um, [26:19] to work around that without kind of going backwards and and creating more of a problem, so [26:24] Not as easy as just throwing plants up there. [26:29] And then the other issue is their ability to maintain it long term. [26:33] That was that's the big challenge. [26:36] up there and get a fire truck to water them. just I don't see that [26:39] don't see that working too well. [26:41] What about like if you drive south, you drive south, you see like the mountains and stuff like that and they got like [26:47] it's not chain link fence but it's fence but it's fence that's over top of the natural rock [26:51] and it kind of blends in to stop many kind of blends in to stop many kind of rock slides or anything like that. [26:56] No, just just an idea. I mean it's an idea. [26:58] Well, that's that we're we're dating ourselves here, but that is what was there back in [27:02] I couldn't remember. [27:04] I remember before. [27:05] It was a I call it chicken wire looking fence with rocks that were in both there and at Main and Wingard. [27:13] So that that was what was there previously. [27:14] That was replaced probably in the late 90s, early 2000s with the updates and then [27:23] school was done for a while. missed all that. [27:28] So, yes, we hopefully by the end of the end of the week or early next week, we'll have something to bring back to council for discussion. [27:40] Under new business, we have a liquor permit request for 7437 Salem for OM Oil. [27:47] And then liquor permit requests for 842 Union Boulevard, Union Food and Gas. [27:53] I move that we table both liquor permits. [27:56] And Mr. Hillsman. [28:00] Call for the vote. [28:01] Motion and second to table the liquor permit requests. Mr. Goff? [28:14] I already know the button's on before you turn. [28:23] Motion and second to adjourn. Mrs. Reitman? [28:35] Meeting adjourned. Thank you.