1 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Council Member Tarber, Council Member Biddes, Council Member Horton, Mayor Potembrees, 2 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Mayer Calderon. 3 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:27,000 We will commence to agenda item 1 approval of agenda as to form staff, are there any changes to the agenda? 4 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Are there any comments from the public comments from the council? 5 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Oh. 6 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 One question. 7 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 This item be? 8 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Item B? 9 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Yes. 10 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Resolution for the dog? 11 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Yes. 12 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Okay, is there any way we can move that up so that he can get out of here? 13 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Ah, yeah, we can move that up. Would you like to move it up now? 14 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 I'm familiar all day, so. 15 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Okay. 16 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Yeah. Is everyone, oh, yeah. Do I have a second? 17 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Yes. 18 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Great. We have a second. 19 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Where are we moving it up to? 20 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 We're going to move it up to the foreclosession. 21 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Okay, sure. 22 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 We'll be the first item on the agenda. 23 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Okay. 24 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Okay. 25 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 And I'm sorry, the motion was from. 26 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Mr. Tarber, and a second from Mr. Perez. 27 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Okay. 28 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Roll call. 29 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Council Member Tarber. 30 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Yes. 31 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Council Member Fiddes. 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Yes. 33 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Council Member Horton. 34 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Mayor Potembrees. 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Yes. 36 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Mayer Calderon. 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Yes. 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Mr. Tarber. 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Fantastic. 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Okay. 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 So, now we are moving to item B. 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 So, item B. 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:48,000 This is consideration and approval for the city council of the city of Arvin declaring certain city owned personal property as surplus and authorizing the disposition pursuant to government code. 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Section 3, 7, 3, 5, 0 45 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 1, 1, 1, 1, 0. 46 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Staff recommends the council to approve the resolution and authorize a city manager to sell canine doggo to the city of Schaffter for $10,000. 47 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Subject to a purchase ill agreement prepared by the city attorney's office. 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Staff, do you have a report? 49 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 I do. 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Thank you. 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Government Code Section 3, 7, 3, 5, 0. 52 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:36,000 In Arvin Municipal Code Section 3.08.110, allow for and govern this position of surplus equipment and material subject to city council approval. 53 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:43,000 The Arvin Police Department has a four-year-old police canine purchased approximately three years ago for $12,000. 54 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:49,000 The canines assigned handler has left the department and is now employed by the Schaffter police department. 55 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Schaffter PD has formally offered $10,000 to purchase a canine, so may continue working with its existing handler. 56 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Police canines performed best with a consistent handler. 57 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:07,000 This sells support continuity of training, care, and animal welfare by keeping the canine with the handler. 58 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 It is already bonded to. 59 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Retaining the canine would require assigning a new handler and sending that officer to a six-to-eight week canine handler school 60 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:24,000 at a cost of up to $6,000 plus additional time for bonding before deployment. 61 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Based on the canines age and service history, it is estimated to have approximately four working years remaining. 62 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:43,000 The proposed $10,000 represents a reasonable recovery of the city's investment while eliminating ongoing costs related to training, medical care, equipment, and liability. 63 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Staff recommends a city council approve the attached resolution to clearing city owned property canine doggo as surplus property, 64 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,000 and authorised a city manager to sell canine doggo to the city of Schaffer for $10,000, 65 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,000 to a purchase settlement agreement prepared by the city attorney's office. 66 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Thank you so much for your staff report. 67 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Are there any comments from the public? 68 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Good evening, hon. Mermaer and City Council. 69 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I am a consent of a general president, our Arvin Police Officer Associate. 70 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Good evening, hon. Mermaer and City Council. 71 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,000 I am a consent of a general president of Arvin Police Officer Association. 72 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 I sat in here before you in support of this resolution. 73 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,000 As you are aware, this canine program was approved back in January of 2023. 74 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,000 If you haven't heard, the canine program has experienced a plight of issues internally. 75 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:49,000 I work for a personnel, training and liability issues. 76 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:57,000 This dog and specific was originally issued to one officer when the canine program was established. 77 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,000 This officer already had issues internally with the canine supervisor. 78 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,000 As a result, these issues continued when he became a canine handler with this supervisor 79 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 of being directly assigned to him for the canine program. 80 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 He resigned within a couple of months. 81 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:22,000 At that time, the acting chief promised the APOA that another officer would get this canine. 82 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 That did not happen. 83 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Even though he promised directly one officer, he assigned it to another supervisor. 84 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Any time there is a use of force, you always want the officers involved in use of force that you want. 85 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:39,000 You need that supervisor to be supervising and making sure officers are following policy and the law. 86 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:45,000 How can you do that when you have two supervisors at that time being the canine handlers? 87 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Recently, a city manager is not here. 88 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,000 During negotiations, we found out that the police department doesn't have a canine policy. 89 00:06:53,000 --> 00:07:00,000 The canine policy is not in place because there was never a meeting conferred between the department and our police officer's association as required by law. 90 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Technically, as of right now, we are operating a canine program with no canine policy. 91 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Huge liability issues, especially right now at what the city facing financial issues. 92 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:18,000 It is my estimation that this program has cost the city over $250,000 to operate. 93 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 If I could have a couple more seconds. 94 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Take your time. 95 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Not only that, but the training, regarding that. 96 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,000 My as a result, the canine was a big issue a couple of years ago. 97 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 They were trying to spend it throughout the state. 98 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,000 As a result, the created law and post our governing licensing board for a piece officer's 99 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 created a standard back in April 2025. 100 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 It's my understanding that these standards, I still not been put in place internally. 101 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Again, creating financial or liability issues. 102 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Back on the staff report, if you see back in January 2023. 103 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,000 In the staff report, they put that they would aggressively go after a grant for this canine program. 104 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 I don't know why that was approved if we know grants. 105 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Before we spend any money, you have to get the grant first because grants are very specific. 106 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Very strict on how to spend that money. 107 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:16,000 From my understanding, talking to say a manager a couple of months ago, we still haven't obtained this grant. 108 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:27,000 I am urging, not only to approve this resolution, but to temporarily suspend or terminate the canine program until we find a safe and reliable way to carry out this program. 109 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 That's all I have. 110 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Thank you. 111 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Thank you for your comments. 112 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Are there any questions from the council? 113 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:45,000 I do have a question. 114 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:51,000 You just brought up to our attention that we don't have a canine policy in place? 115 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Correct. 116 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 So why wasn't that brought up when we first approved the canines? 117 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Like, why didn't you bring it to our attention after the fact? 118 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Good question. 119 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 So our department operates off of lexipo. 120 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Lexipo creates these template type policies for the department, which is in place right now. 121 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 But it was never meant to confer what the APOA because the city never proposed it to us. 122 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:26,000 This was brought up to city manager and acting chief Gazerian at that time for a meeting confer, but it never occurred. 123 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 And okay, so never was followed through. 124 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Correct. 125 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 The city never proposed it to the APOA to implement it. 126 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 So as of right now, there is no policy. 127 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Okay, not just the policy itself for the use of it, but it was never proposed to us exactly what these canine handlers were receiving. 128 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:50,000 As far as, like, takeum cars, overtime, any specialty pay that was never officially proposed to the APOA. 129 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,000 So as a result, we are in talks right now during negotiations. 130 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 You know, what are the standards right now and what's the plan with this canine program? 131 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Because again, it was never brought up to us formally. 132 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,000 And as I recall in that, I don't really remember it's a little vague. 133 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:14,000 But when the first, the canine was first brought up, no one had an issue with it. 134 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 I believe all the PD officers are off for it. 135 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 So by now, there's an issue. 136 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Yeah, so I don't know where the information came because no survey was ever done by the POA or by the chief at that time or the police department. 137 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 So I'm not sure exactly where that came from. 138 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Yeah. 139 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,000 But I will say that a lot of people were kind of excited at the time because, as you know, we had that silator for the pay raise. 140 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,000 And we really did believe that the grant was really going to come in for it. 141 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,000 And it was supposed to, like we said, it was supposed to be one officer and one sergeant. 142 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Full time. 143 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 That I do recall. 144 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Yes. 145 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,000 And I know the grant was going to come after the fact we were advised that once we approved it, 146 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 but they were going to apply for a grant to continue with the canine program. 147 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Correct. 148 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 I do remember. 149 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Yeah. 150 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 And I think that's where things kind of fell apart because things were going on. 151 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 And I could say within a couple months, we had one handler resigned. 152 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 And it never went back to another officer. 153 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Okay. 154 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Yeah. 155 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 So you're saying there is a policy in place. 156 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 It's just invalid because we didn't meet it in front with you guys. 157 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 It's just put in place, because that's lexipo. 158 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,000 And lexipo will automatically just put up just, they're like templates. 159 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 But it can't be enforced. 160 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 It's not used. 161 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 It's not trained on. 162 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Because it's not legit. 163 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,000 It's just something lexipo automatically does for any type of subject for law enforcement policies. 164 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Does that have an ingest in any, because we're going to go sheets? 165 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Correct. 166 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 The next meeting is January 27th. 167 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Okay. 168 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,000 So I'm hoping the city at that time has a proposal or a plan on what they want to do. 169 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 But it was officially sent to them via lexipo. 170 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Because once I heard that, there was no policy. 171 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I said, well, there's a template and that was sent to city manager in the city for review. 172 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 All right. 173 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Thanks. 174 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Are there any other questions? 175 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:14,000 So my question is, again, you know, I agree with council member Susan Riceman. 176 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Why are you bringing up now? 177 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Why am I bringing this up now? 178 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Why are you bringing up now? 179 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:26,000 And the other part of this is, is during that period of time when they were on, you guys were on the council. 180 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 What? 181 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Yes, correct. 182 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 And I'm sure that there was a staff recommendation. 183 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Who did that staff recommendation come from? 184 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Was it from the chief of police? 185 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 The city manager. 186 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 City manager made the staff recommendation. 187 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Not the chief of police? 188 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 I believe it was at that time. 189 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 I think it was. 190 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 It was the city manager and the chief at that time, I believe. 191 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:55,000 So, so, you know, from my experience, the stuff that comes from the police department, 192 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,000 the staff recommendation usually comes from the chief. 193 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,000 And the city manager supports that recommendation from the chief. 194 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Just like the, what's that grant we got right now? 195 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 No, no, no, no. 196 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 No, no, no. 197 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Oh, no. 198 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 OK, look at the process there. 199 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Where did it come from? 200 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 The police department. 201 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Correct. 202 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:33,000 So, somewhere there's some wires crossed, definitely, because I know that the police chief should have been the one to make that recommendation. 203 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Because he is the head of that department. 204 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 He knows the needs and the wants of the department. 205 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:45,000 So, but, in here in Newtalk, you're saying he wasn't aware of it and he didn't know anything about it. 206 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,000 And, you know, somewhere they dropped a ball and there's no policy in place. 207 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 I don't even know how that could even be. 208 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Because the council. 209 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:01,000 I think what he's saying there is a policy in place, however, it was not, it's on that lexipol. 210 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Yeah, it's just a template. 211 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 It's not a template. 212 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 It's a template. 213 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 It's not something we can use because, again, there's no meaning to infer. 214 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,000 And those templates are supposed to be then kind of revised based on the agency operation. 215 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 So, it's just a standard little template. 216 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000 It's not technically officially a policy. 217 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 It's just in there as a template. 218 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,000 So, when did you guys let City Manager know about this? 219 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 December's last negotiation. 220 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I mean, I don't have exact date. 221 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,000 So, it's just this December and we've had the dogs for how long. 222 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,000 I'm assuming January 2023, somewhere around that time we got him. 223 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Okay. 224 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Yeah. 225 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:43,000 But, it's news to us that there is never any, that the City Manager didn't know that there is no policy. 226 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 That should have been known for a while already. 227 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 And that should have been something I was proposed to the pay POS in the beginning. 228 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,000 If they wanted to go through with the lexipol one or revise it. 229 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Well, wish you had a legal council here. 230 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Well, what you're saying is that the... 231 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:09,000 The concerns that you've laid out to us are the Canine Unit was approved. It was a staff recommendation. 232 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:18,000 The staff recommendation was to approve the Canine Unit and that there were going to be grants that were going to cover the costs of the Canine Unit, 233 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:27,000 but that was not followed through. There were no grants that were applied and received to support the cost of the Canine Unit. 234 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Correct. 235 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:38,000 There's no grant. I'm not sure if they're waiting for the grants that proposed something to the APOA or what they're waiting for, when they plan to propose this to the APOA or do a meeting confer. 236 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 I'm not sure exactly if they're waiting for that grant. 237 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:56,000 In addition to that, you're saying that there was no policy that was proposed to APOA for it to be finalized, approved, 238 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:02,000 and then have the officers trained on that that never happened and that that should have happened. 239 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Correct. 240 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,000 And that the city manager was well aware of it. 241 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,000 And this is something that has been raised with the city manager and the previous chief of police. 242 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Correct. Yes. 243 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Okay. 244 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 And then the thing with the policy, that's something that's supposed to be proposed from the city to the APOA. 245 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:27,000 The APOA wouldn't create this or propose this to the city because it's a management right to create this gain. 246 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 That's a come from the city. 247 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Right. 248 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Can it? 249 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 So let me make a recommendation. 250 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 I make a recommendation that we table it. 251 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Well, we can vote anything. 252 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Well, okay. 253 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Because, you know, he's standing there telling us that there is no policy in place that's been approved and we're operating. 254 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Other than the guidelines. 255 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 So when we typically suspend. 256 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Mayor, Mayor, sorry for me. 257 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,000 So the item that's on the agenda is different has nothing to do with the policy. 258 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Yeah, this has to do with the grant. 259 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Yeah. 260 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 That's something that can you can add to the agenda in the future. 261 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Right. 262 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,000 This item is solely regarding toggle, toggle and surplus and selling it to chapter. 263 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 That's what we are considering for this item here. 264 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,000 And so if the council wants to consider the policy or any other changes to the program, 265 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,000 terminating the program, whatever it may be, that will need to be considered out of the future meeting. 266 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 That's right. 267 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,000 So we could go ahead and add that to a future agenda to discuss clearly. 268 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,000 We need to bring in our council and and addresses what the city manager. 269 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:41,000 So I would suggest then, you know, thank you for these concerns that you've raised and put on the record for us. 270 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:48,000 If we could move with the item that we have before us and the recommendation from staff. 271 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Is that we. 272 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Except chapters offer. 273 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Because this dog is connected to a specific handler. 274 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 There's no longer with our city. 275 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 So can I have a motion to move forward with this recommendation? 276 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Why don't I think mayor? 277 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Sorry. 278 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:17,000 I would recommend that in the future if you come up if you find any discrepancies. 279 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,000 And if you have already let the city manager know and six months go by year, 280 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,000 a year, shouldn't go that long and there's no. 281 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 No, I guess remedy. 282 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Then I think you should let the council know. 283 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 So we're aware of it. 284 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,000 So we can know that in the future we'll know how to remedy a certain issue. 285 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000 So we could be a lease compliant. 286 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 There may be a separate process for that. 287 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,000 We can process through the unions and not specifically the employee to the council. 288 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,000 That's right. 289 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,000 So that's something we can again discuss with the city manager and the city attorney. 290 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Okay. 291 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,000 I make a motion. 292 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 And just like my friend, I was just. 293 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 I brought up the any in the cannot program as to the reason why I'm supporting this resolution. 294 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Yeah. 295 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Thank you so much. 296 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Okay. 297 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Great. 298 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 So do we have a second. 299 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Great. 300 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,000 We have a motion and a second motion by. 301 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Okay. 302 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 I'm in support of of selling the dog. 303 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,000 But I'm also in support of the K9 unit. 304 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:23,000 And I believe that the funds that are coming from this dog should stay with that K9 period. 305 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,000 The 10,000 that's coming. 306 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 It should go into the fund for the K9. 307 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 It goes into any way. 308 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 For the current dog. 309 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Okay. 310 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,000 It should be ear not for that purpose. 311 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Now that's my motion. 312 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Do I get a second on that? 313 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Yeah. 314 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,000 All right. 315 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Can we call the roll? 316 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Okay. 317 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:52,000 So there is a motion from councilmember from Mayor Potem Reyes and councilmember Horton. 318 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Are we is that one dead? 319 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Let's go. 320 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Yes. 321 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000 We're going to approve to sell the K9. 322 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:04,000 The direction to the city manager is to direct the funds to support additional training for the existing K9. 323 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Okay. 324 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 That's requested by Mr. Tarver. 325 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Yes. 326 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000 The council. 327 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Seconded by Mr. Horton. 328 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Okay. 329 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Okay. 330 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Councilmember Tarver. 331 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Yes. 332 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Councilmember Perez. 333 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Yes. 334 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Councilmember Horton. 335 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Mayor Potem Reyes. 336 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Yes. 337 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Mayor Calderon. 338 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Yes. 339 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Motion carries by zero. 340 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,000 We are going to move into close session. 341 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 And following close session. 342 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:37,000 We will be back again for the last action item on the agenda today. 343 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Two items. 344 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Yes. 345 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:54,000 And we will be directing the city manager based on this conversation to include some additional background. 346 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,000 If everyone would like on the K9 policy, we could add it to the following agenda so that we could get clear on that as a discussion item. 347 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Would you like that information? 348 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Yes. 349 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Great. 350 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Okay. 351 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Okay. 352 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Yeah. 353 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 For the agenda for the 27th. 354 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Yeah. 355 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Just so that we could have clear. 356 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Thank you. 357 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Okay. 358 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 All right. 359 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Call the close session item. 360 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Public Employee Performance Evaluation. 361 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Government code 54957B City Manager. 362 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 We were going to close session. 363 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Are there any comments from the public on this item? 364 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Seeing none. 365 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,000 The meeting will stay on and we will be back following this discussion. 366 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Thank you.