[0:03] To order, start with the pledge to the flag
[0:09] pledge allegiance to the flag of
[0:11] The United States of America.
[0:13] And to the Republic For, to Spanish.
[0:16] One Nation under God individual.
[0:19] If liberty, injustice, all
[0:22] this call is no longer being recorded.
[0:26] Oh, good. We, we took care of the recording, Dennis.
[0:30] Don't worry about it. Okay. I hit the wrong.
[0:35] Alright. Home call. Laura is here.
[0:39] Uh, Dennis is with us on the phone. I'm here. April's here.
[0:44] Austin is here. Mayor is here. Tim is here.
[0:49] Uh, chief Graham is here. And Dr. Dave Fulton is here.
[0:54] So we'll, we'll do the vote
[0:56] To allow Him. Yep.
[0:57] Uh, need a motion to allow Dennis
[1:00] to join by phone.
[1:04] I make a motion. Second
[1:05] Motion by Laura, second by Austin.
[1:09] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.
[1:14] Opposed? Motion carries.
[1:18] Dennis, you're good to go. Alright. Thank you.
[1:27] Announcement of, at the September meeting,
[1:31] there was accusation of theft, uh, against
[1:35] Dr. David Bolton.
[1:37] Uh, chief Graham
[1:39] and the just district attorney have looked into that
[1:43] and I'll defer to Chief Graham, uh, for the results of
[1:48] that investigation.
[1:50] Uh, as you said, sir, during the September meeting,
[1:53] Dr. Bolton was accused of stealing money.
[1:57] Based on that accusation.
[1:59] A criminal investigation was conducted.
[2:02] People were interviewed, bank records were checked.
[2:06] There was a report done.
[2:08] It was submitted to the Adams County District Attorney's
[2:10] office for review.
[2:12] And their determination is there was no crime there at all.
[2:17] And based on that, the investigation is closed.
[2:24] Okay.
[2:30] You have, uh, judge candidate Paul
[2:33] Rohrer with us this evening.
[2:34] Would you like to say a couple words?
[2:36] Yes, sir. Thank you.
[2:38] Um, ladies and gentlemen, I know you got a full docket,
[2:41] so I'm not gonna take up a lot of time.
[2:43] Um, my name's Paul Rohr. I'm running for Judge.
[2:45] There's an open seat on the court of common.
[2:47] Please honor, judge George had that seat
[2:49] for close to 30 years.
[2:51] Mm-hmm. And he recently stepped down.
[2:53] Now he's serving part-time as well as his Judge Kon,
[2:56] who's someone you may know as well.
[2:58] Um, and they're both serving part-time
[2:59] until we can get somebody elected in November.
[3:02] So, long story short, I'm going around to every borough
[3:04] and every township, uh, board of supervisors
[3:08] between now and the election day.
[3:10] Not to campaign attorney Schul is not, I'm not trying
[3:12] to run afoul of any rules, but it is my intent
[3:14] to meet all the community leaders and put a face to a name.
[3:18] 'cause I feel like that's really important.
[3:20] 'cause I don't have to tell you all this is
[3:22] where the rubber hits the road.
[3:23] This is what makes this a great place to live,
[3:26] is this type of thing right here.
[3:28] And I'm constantly reminded of
[3:29] that every time I come to one of these.
[3:31] So if I stay on my game, I stay on track, I'm gonna get
[3:33] to all 31 I think it is by November 4th.
[3:37] Uh, long story short, um,
[3:38] my folks had a place in cash down growing up.
[3:41] And when it was time to raise our family
[3:43] and settle down a bit, my wife
[3:44] and I knew this would be a good place to do it.
[3:46] And we lived just north of Gettysburg.
[3:47] I got a daughter off of Penn State,
[3:49] and my youngest is still at Gettysburg High School.
[3:51] I've been practicing law for a little over 20 years.
[3:55] I've been in front of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court
[3:57] and I've been in front of Judge Little
[3:58] and they're both equally inquisitive.
[4:00] I can tell you. We, we, uh, we're blessed
[4:03] with good leadership in this state, by
[4:05] and large, in the primary.
[4:07] Um, we did really well.
[4:09] We got about 40% of the Republican vote,
[4:11] and my opponent didn't cross house.
[4:13] So we got a hundred percent of the Democrat vote.
[4:15] And I'm here to tell you, I'm equally
[4:17] proud of both of those numbers.
[4:18] And here's why. 'cause politics
[4:20] don't belong in our courtrooms.
[4:22] They don't belong in our courtrooms.
[4:23] They don't belong in our churches
[4:25] and they don't belong in our school boards.
[4:27] They're, it's okay to have parts of our society that
[4:32] politics don't have to be.
[4:34] It's okay. We have other values we can appeal to.
[4:38] Um, so long story short, everyone asked me, well,
[4:40] can you keep that coalition together in November?
[4:43] Can you keep your, your Rs
[4:44] and Ds from tearing each other's heads off?
[4:46] I don't know. I don't have a magic wand,
[4:49] but what I do have is I have faith.
[4:51] I have faith. 'cause those people who voted
[4:53] for me in the primary, they did it for a reason.
[4:55] And I'm pretty sure I know what that reason is.
[4:58] So, long story short, like I said, I know you've got a,
[5:00] I know you've got a full agenda
[5:02] and I don't want to campaign,
[5:03] but I did want to introduce myself.
[5:04] I'm gonna leave some of these and I hope you all keep
[5:07] an open mind in November.
[5:09] But thank you for your time and
[5:10] Doc, it's good to see you again, sir. Thank you
[5:12] Paul. Appreciate that.
[5:13] 
[5:14] Smith, could you please?
[5:20] Alright. Right next is, uh,
[5:22] public comment on any action items
[5:24] of the agenda, any public
[5:32] Okay. Uh, approval of the minutes.
[5:35] We'll start with the September 18th.
[5:38] I make a motion. Second motion
[5:41] by Laura, second by April.
[5:42] Any discussion? All is in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
[5:47] Opposed? Aye. Motion carries.
[5:52] Uh, October 2nd budget workshop.
[5:56] I make a motion. Second Motion
[5:59] by Laura, second by Austin.
[6:00] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.
[6:06] Opposed? Motion carries. Treasurer's reports.
[6:11] Thank you.
[6:12] Um, it's getting old.
[6:17] The borough's financial situation is very, very stable.
[6:21] It doesn't change. Um, we've, uh,
[6:26] we've got a few bills coming in, um, of note,
[6:29] uh, that I want to discuss.
[6:30] Um, the paving bill, uh, for the work done,
[6:36] uh, when Columbia Gas came in and they did the restoration
[6:40] and then we added a couple of spots to that just
[6:43] to make a little better roadway out of it.
[6:45] Um, so that came in at just under $78,000.
[6:49] Um, the invoice that I received was not itemized
[6:54] to the standard that I need it to be to use liquid fuels.
[6:59] So I, uh, reached out
[7:01] and Kinsley did provide another invoice.
[7:04] So, um, I have sent that over to our, uh,
[7:07] liquid fuels liaison to make sure
[7:09] that it has the adequate information, um,
[7:12] 'cause that'll come up in an audit.
[7:14] So, um, I have already transferred the funds from our Plait
[7:18] account into our A CMB account so
[7:22] that I can write a check out of
[7:23] that liquid fuels for that amount.
[7:26] Um, other than that, um, yeah, just,
[7:30] everything's going really well.
[7:34] All right. Need a motion to accept the finance report? I
[7:38] Make a motion. Second
[7:40] Motion by Laura, second by April.
[7:42] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.
[7:46] All opposed. Motion carries.
[7:50] Um, motion to approve. Ratify paying the bills.
[7:54] Make a motion. Motion by Laura. Second.
[7:58] Second by April. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye.
[8:03] Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
[8:07] Thank you. Uh, administrative reports.
[8:11] First item on the agenda, um, is, uh, I'm going to ask you
[8:15] to ratify the advertisement of, uh,
[8:18] the Assistant Secretary Treasurer position
[8:21] and authorize me to, uh, work with the personnel committee,
[8:25] uh, to, uh, make an offer to somebody, um,
[8:29] and get them hired prior to the next meeting.
[8:32] Uh, based on the budget, uh, qualifiers
[8:36] that we have already established for the position, you will
[8:39] of course ratify that person
[8:42] and their salary at the next meeting as well.
[8:45] Um, but everybody will, uh,
[8:48] be given the information ahead of time.
[8:50] Uh, we've got some very good candidates.
[8:54] So, um, I'm asking for the ratification of the advertisement
[8:58] and authority to move forward and higher
[9:01] I make motion.
[9:03] Aye. I'll second. Motion by Laura, second by Dennis.
[9:06] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye.
[9:11] A opposed? Motion carries.
[9:15] Thank you. And second
[9:20] item on the agenda.
[9:22] Um, we have been asked by United Hook
[9:24] and Ladder to be their municipal sponsor for an LSA grant
[9:29] for some new equipment.
[9:30] Uh, Dale I'll let you speak to that
[9:35] Here. Uh, basically
[9:36] this is a grant applying for, uh,
[9:40] this particular grant requires a municipal sponsor.
[9:44] It doesn't, it's not that the sponsor
[9:47] or the municipal is responsible
[9:49] for anything other than giving the blessing
[9:54] As a municipal member.
[9:55] We're basically their board.
[9:57] So, uh, we're just basically putting down that,
[9:59] that we are okay with them purchasing the equipment.
[10:02] I'll make Aion Second
[10:04] Motion by Laura second by April.
[10:07] And on this one, Dale will abstain. Yes.
[10:11] Um, so we'll get the proper paperwork for that.
[10:16] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye.
[10:21] Aye. Aye. Those opposed?
[10:26] And I am abstaining due to conflict of interest.
[10:32] Okay. Alright.
[10:33] Thank you. Uh, the next item on the agenda is to vote
[10:37] to advertise to 2026 municipal budgets.
[10:40] We had, uh, our meeting on October 2nd, uh,
[10:45] probably one of the longer meetings we've had in a long
[10:47] time, uh, for a budget.
[10:49] Um, about an hour and a half.
[10:51] Uh, we went through every line item,
[10:53] uh, questions were asked.
[10:55] Um, justifications were given
[10:58] and, uh, budget looks a lot like this.
[11:01] Year's. Um,
[11:04] we are looking at structural surplus
[11:11] of the general fund budget of $2,105
[11:16] with $392,435 in
[11:21] revenues,
[11:24] $390,330 in expenses.
[11:30] And the capital
[11:31] and liquid fuels budgets were actually multi-year budgets
[11:36] when we passed them last year.
[11:39] So they are included as addendums to this budget
[11:43] and should be re-approved as part of the package
[11:51] I to advertise.
[11:54] Alright. Motion by Laura. Second. Second by Austin.
[11:59] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye.
[12:05] Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
[12:09] Thank you. Next item on the agenda is the cancellation
[12:12] of the remainder of the budget meetings for the year
[12:16] Motion by April 2nd.
[12:18] Second by Laura. Any discussion?
[12:22] All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye.
[12:26] Motion carries.
[12:28] Thank you. Aye.
[12:30] Next item your consideration. Lemme get some paper out here.
[12:38] So we had put out RFPs for snowplowing services
[12:43] after the Burwick contract was terminated
[12:47] and we did not receive, um,
[12:52] any until yesterday.
[12:59] Um, so I am going to,
[13:03] um, let's see.
[13:10] So we're gonna vote on this.
[13:11] Well, we can vote on it now I guess
[13:14] 'cause we didn't get anything since September 15th.
[13:19] So we are currently without services if it's snows tomorrow.
[13:23] Um, that being said, um, it's up to council
[13:28] to vote on this one whether they want to accept it or not.
[13:32] Uh, if not, I'll continue looking.
[13:34] Uh, so it was submitted by Tom Chu paving
[13:37] and excavating, um, plow trucks,
[13:42] 1 75 an hour, two to three trucks,
[13:46] uh, to cover.
[13:47] That's pretty much what Burwick and Beaver covered for us.
[13:52] Hit run Plow trucks with Beaver, I believe cost 2 25.
[13:57] Um, salting spread. Uh, that's 2 25 a ton.
[14:02] That is considerably more than
[14:04] what we were getting from Berwick.
[14:06] It is in line with what we were seeing with Beaver.
[14:10] Um, and then if there's a huge storm
[14:15] and extra equipment has to be brought in, um,
[14:18] they will call me, get authorization,
[14:20] and then of course we'd pick up those extra costs for that.
[14:25] Um, and they
[14:29] have their insurance and everything submitted.
[14:31] So I do have that.
[14:36] How much nip long have they done?
[14:41] Some I didn't ask how many.
[14:43] I didn't ask for a reference list.
[14:46] We had already had a, a working relationship
[14:48] with the pair trucks, so I didn't,
[14:49] yeah, I didn't really go. Yeah,
[14:51] I'm just Curious. Yeah.
[14:52] You know how much snow plowing they've done. Right?
[14:54] I don't want somebody coming in
[14:56] and all of a sudden they
[14:57] really don't know what they're doing.
[14:58] Well, they said they do want to, um,
[15:00] have somebody take 'em around the borough.
[15:02] And of course that's customary, that's with everybody right.
[15:05] To have them go around. But Tom grew up in town,
[15:08] he said he's pretty sure he knows where to
[15:11] where to put the snow.
[15:16] And it is important if you whoever takes him around just
[15:19] to make notes of what the streets are like.
[15:21] So I figured maybe Chief
[15:23] or Bailey would be the best options.
[15:26] Take him around. I know the mayor had done it previously,
[15:28] but I know you're busy during the day. So,
[15:31] I mean, as far as damage and stuff, just
[15:33] To see. And, and then we also
[15:34] have a map that we give them so
[15:36] that they know what streets
[15:38] or streets and which ones aren't.
[15:42] We have a few of those.
[15:46] And this is for a year?
[15:48] This would be through this season. So it's 25, 26. Okay.
[15:53] Yeah, generally when we were doing the them previously
[15:57] we were starting them
[15:59] and then they were going through to the following year.
[16:02] Uh, the only time we didn't do that, I believe,
[16:06] no, I'm wrong.
[16:08] We were doing it for the whole year.
[16:10] So the council's gonna have
[16:11] to revisit this again in January.
[16:15] Okay. Because that's, we, yes,
[16:20] there was always a split and that's why we had a problem.
[16:22] Because if you remember previously we had somebody else, uh,
[16:27] beat beaver's bid beep.
[16:29] Beaver's bid. That's pretty cool. Yeah.
[16:32] I'm not, I'm not saying that fast.
[16:35] And, and, and so that guy was supposed to start in January,
[16:39] but he ended up coming in in November
[16:41] and then we had two guys in here
[16:42] and I told him he didn't start till January.
[16:46] I Remember that. So yes.
[16:47] So yes, it is, it is only till the end of this year in,
[16:50] at the reorganization meeting, you guys are gonna have
[16:53] to say whether or not you want to continue
[16:56] or if you wanna look somewhere else.
[16:57] Okay. So you can almost take it as a interim.
[17:01] I sort of thought we maybe did it like
[17:04] later on in the year
[17:05] through the year to get us through the winter.
[17:07] So we didn't have this problem this time of year.
[17:09] No. What we usually did was we would advertise it out in
[17:12] the fall and then we would set it up so that in January
[17:17] it was on your agenda to accept.
[17:19] Okay.
[17:22] I make a motion. Then we accept it.
[17:23] 'cause we need something. If we get snow in November
[17:26] or December, we're just
[17:28] Laura, you can do it.
[17:30] Budget can do it.
[17:32] Do what? Second.
[17:35] All right. We have a motion by Laura second by April
[17:37] to approve, uh, parrot chuck
[17:41] as our snowplowing contractor.
[17:44] Any discussion? All those in favor say aye.
[17:49] Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
[17:55] Thank you. Uh, the next item I have on the agenda
[17:59] finally is to vote on the, uh,
[18:02] sewer authorities improvement plan through the rec park.
[18:05] Uh, if you remember about two months ago, we went over this,
[18:09] uh, there were some, uh, notations,
[18:12] I believe Mr. Schultz has provided.
[18:14] Um, so those were put into a new agreement.
[18:18] I did receive that as of this morning.
[18:21] Uh, or else I'd tell you to postpone it.
[18:25] Uh, we're gonna put
[18:31] Oh, the, the ones with the signature page.
[18:33] Sorry. Um,
[18:38] so everything looked good there?
[18:39] I don't Did you get the chance?
[18:40] I, I did. Okay. I did see it.
[18:41] Are Are you good with it?
[18:44] Um, they,
[18:45] they took the notation about the trees out as you saw.
[18:49] So, so what, what was explained about that?
[18:53] Um, and I did talk to Laura about that, was some
[18:56] of those trees are not part of our agreement for the park.
[19:01] They were just kind of put in there. Right.
[19:03] Um, we are looking at possibly transplanting some of those
[19:08] during this so that they just don't die.
[19:11] Um, and any of them that aren't transplanted,
[19:14] then value will be calculated
[19:16] and they'll help us with escaping. Yeah. Yeah.
[19:18] But if it's not in the agreement, then
[19:20] they don't have to do it.
[19:23] They, They would also only put trees in,
[19:25] they wouldn't put bushes or flowers in.
[19:28] There's no bushes or flowers.
[19:29] I know, but if you wanted them.
[19:31] No, I wanna make sure that whatever trees
[19:34] that get destroyed get replaced.
[19:36] And if it's not in that, then that's saying
[19:41] that they can say, well, it wasn't in the agreement.
[19:47] That's fair.
[19:54] I didn't instruct them to take it out.
[19:56] Yeah. Well that's how they get away with
[19:58] It. I was, I was
[19:59] informed and, and I relayed the information.
[20:03] So the, the language now, uh, about that used
[20:08] to the language, the paragraph that had the trees, that is,
[20:11] that they were, they were gonna take out all of the trees.
[20:14] It says the grantee, which is, is the sewer authority,
[20:19] shall repair and restore the surface
[20:22] features within the easement
[20:23] to a condition substantially similar, uh, to
[20:26] that which existed immediately
[20:29] Before. Before.
[20:30] So I think if we identify the trees
[20:32] that are likely to be taken out, um,
[20:36] obviously they don't want you
[20:38] to plant trees in the right of way.
[20:40] Well, we never knew where the right of way was.
[20:42] Well, well now, now we do. Yeah.
[20:45] So the idea is not to plant those
[20:49] plant trees in the right of way anyway.
[20:51] So the number of trees that are going to be taken out
[20:55] that you can't, that you're not gonna transplant now,
[21:00] uh, you know, I I think the idea is that they're going to
[21:04] essentially pay for that.
[21:06] Right. Either they have to restore it
[21:09] or they have to somehow pay for it.
[21:12] They just can't put the trees back over top
[21:14] of the affected area because of the root systems going down.
[21:17] Oh, I understand that.
[21:19] So that's why it was like, well, you know,
[21:22] they're not gonna replace those
[21:24] 'cause those aren't going there.
[21:26] That's how it was explained to me.
[21:29] But is there anything that states in there
[21:31] That we, they're, they're gonna put the ground features
[21:33] back to a similar,
[21:36] so the tree might not be here, it might be over here.
[21:39] Or if a tree isn't possible,
[21:41] they could put a bush in or something else.
[21:47] But that would be have to be
[21:48] Coordinated. I would like
[21:49] to have them mark off where they're gonna go.
[21:53] There's a map here. It's just the very I've seen that
[21:57] I want, I want Okay.
[22:01] Physical flags put into where they're going
[22:03] so I know exactly where that line is going.
[22:08] Okay.
[22:14] And then we can decide We can get that
[22:16] Done. What to do.
[22:17] Yep. With the trees. Yeah.
[22:20] What trees they are to know where to put them.
[22:23] And I don't even think it's
[22:24] that many to be honest with you.
[22:25] I don't think so. It's, it's the very edge of that,
[22:29] you know, like along that stream area.
[22:33] Well that's what I kind of figured
[22:35] Because 'cause the roadway goes down, all
[22:39] They have to do is put two flags
[22:40] where they're gonna start and two flags at the end.
[22:42] Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Yep.
[22:43] We'll get it done and I'll go down and look at it
[22:45] and, okay.
[22:46] See what has to be done. Okay.
[22:49] We'll get that done. Yep. A good idea, Laura.
[22:53] So we gotta vote the table for now, question mark.
[23:00] But they are gonna restore mm-hmm.
[23:02] That's still in there, right? Mm-hmm.
[23:04] That they will restore that area.
[23:06] Okay. I'm fine.
[23:10] And Amy assured me it will be taken care of.
[23:12] Okay. I make a motion.
[23:18] Second. Okay. We have motion by Laura. Second.
[23:22] Second by Austin. Any discussion?
[23:28] All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed?
[23:32] Motion carries.
[23:34] Thank you. All right.
[23:38] And let me see if I have anything else for you.
[23:42] I might, as I might as well do the correspondences.
[23:45] Um, this way I can be quiet.
[23:48] The rest of the meeting, um, as you know,
[23:50] with Veronica leaving and Hannah leaving,
[23:53] we are down the two signers on the account.
[23:56] Um, and if one of us don't sign, we don't sign
[23:59] checks don't go out.
[24:01] So at some point, and,
[24:03] and it's not on the agenda tonight, um, counsel needs
[24:07] to decide who's going to be, uh, the,
[24:10] the other counsel signer.
[24:12] And then whoever gets hired will also be a signer.
[24:17] So I can't do anything until that person gets hired anyway.
[24:21] 'cause no sense doing this twice. Well,
[24:23] Who do you have now? You
[24:24] It's just Dale and I And if one
[24:28] of us don't sign, I thought Laura, I
[24:29] Thought Laura was on it.
[24:31] It was until Hannah took
[24:33] Over. No, Hannah, Hannah
[24:34] took it. Oh.
[24:36] I'll do it until December 31st.
[24:40] Okay. If You guys want me to do it.
[24:43] Well, it'd be easy because they,
[24:45] they already have your information.
[24:46] Yeah. We just have to do another That was a previous sign
[24:49] resolution at the next meeting.
[24:50] Yeah,
[24:52] I'll do it till the end of the year.
[24:55] Okay. That was easy.
[24:59] Okay, So I'll put
[25:01] that on the back burner for next month.
[25:03] Um, liquid fuels notification
[25:08] for next year came in, uh, after we had our budget meeting.
[25:12] And they are allocating $32,006
[25:17] 53 cents.
[25:18] We budgeted 30,000.
[25:20] So we're in, um, Adams County,
[25:25] uh, community Foundation, uh, sent a community report.
[25:30] Uh, so that is available for anybody
[25:31] that wants to look at it.
[25:33] We received a thank you card from the, uh,
[25:37] Adams County SBCA for our a thousand dollars donation.
[25:49] You don't need that one.
[25:56] Um, oh, MedEd, uh, is coming through, uh, the park.
[26:04] Um, so, so MedEd is replacing the lines in the park,
[26:07] uh, the overhead.
[26:09] And they've gotta replace some of the poles.
[26:10] Now the problem was they
[26:15] couldn't access those poles
[26:16] because we had a spring coming up through the ground
[26:19] that we discovered earlier this year.
[26:21] Right. That, that was flooding out the park and you know.
[26:24] Right. Well, it's not a spring folks.
[26:28] It was, it was a waterline.
[26:30] And, uh, nobody knew it was there
[26:32] until they marked it the other day.
[26:34] And, uh, so yeah, it's, we now no longer have a stream.
[26:39] So you're telling me that's just been an open main water.
[26:41] It's been an open main the whole time.
[26:43] And what I would like to know from those of you, of you
[26:46] who go to the meetings, I would like to know
[26:50] how they did not know that
[26:53] that water was leaking all this time. They
[26:56] Should have a kind of water
[26:57] somewhere. You would think their
[26:59] Building wouldn't match up their
[27:00] Output, I think.
[27:01] But you think that we're paying for all the chemicals
[27:04] and stuff to purify that water
[27:06] and all that water went into the park
[27:08] to make a lot of trouble for us.
[27:10] Mm-hmm. So I would like to know
[27:13] why they didn't know it was leaking.
[27:16] Because there's gotta be a big discrepancy between
[27:19] what water they were putting out
[27:21] and what water the meters were saying they had.
[27:24] And that's not right. There's gotta be a big discrepancy.
[27:28] Where, what, where's
[27:30] This line Down that way?
[27:33] Straight down through there. High.
[27:34] Like where the fountain was. High street.
[27:36] Yep. All the way up here.
[27:38] No, that's an on meters
[27:40] Leak. I think it's
[27:41] pretty tough. Yes. I don't know that.
[27:44] I mean, they, the only place they can really meter that
[27:46] is going into the tower and out the tower area probably.
[27:49] And that tower feeds correct? Correct.
[27:52] But where do you start? Every place they
[27:53] are in Adams County.
[27:55] Yeah. But there's gotta be a way.
[27:57] I know other towns know how much water's going out,
[28:00] how much water's on the meters.
[28:02] Right. There's gotta be a way to know at least some of it.
[28:06] 'cause that's been going on for a while.
[28:09] That's a lot of water. Yeah.
[28:11] But it's spread out over a huge area.
[28:13] So is that fixed now? Even West Manheim Township
[28:17] is getting fed from this town. I 24 hours race.
[28:20] Okay. But still, that's a lot of
[28:22] Water getting fed from this cleaning.
[28:25] So when are they gonna do this? Know? From previous,
[28:30] That's what I'm saying.
[28:31] There's gotta be a way to know. Yeah,
[28:33] Exactly.
[28:35] Probably over that huge area though.
[28:37] It really wasn't that much too.
[28:38] Went down and met the, that's probably where the problem is.
[28:41] We created RN River. Yeah. One was
[28:44] Out. Um,
[28:45] so yes. Closed up, sealed up.
[28:49] No more plans for a creek. We're good.
[28:52] Um, we will be looking to restore that area
[28:55] to the way it was about three years ago. That
[28:58] Would be nice. And,
[28:59] and it'll be a nice little area.
[29:01] And I'm sure, uh, James Becker down here will be
[29:04] very happy about that too.
[29:06] So we don't So what everybody else,
[29:07] I haven't told him yet, so.
[29:09] Oh he'll. I'll probably get a Christmas present this year.
[29:13] You probably noticed. Um, oh no, you,
[29:16] he talks to me all the time about it.
[29:17] He knows. Yeah.
[29:19] Um, so, uh, going back to the RFPs real quick.
[29:22] Um, we had rfpd, uh, for engineer, solicitor
[29:27] and zoning, hearing board solicitor.
[29:29] Um, we did not receive anything back from them, um,
[29:33] from anybody really, uh, except, uh, Mr.
[29:37] S Sches did, uh, provide, um, or his Salzman Hughes
[29:42] provided, um, an engagement agreement for next year.
[29:46] Uh, it has an annual increase of 3%.
[29:51] Um, so the rates will be increased,
[29:55] um, by that amount.
[29:57] And the attorney rate, uh, will go to 1 75 an hour.
[30:02] And the paralegal, uh, project manager
[30:06] and law, uh, clerks are at 1 0 6.
[30:10] And I will tell you that's a lot lower than a lot of firms
[30:14] in the area.
[30:16] So, um, so since there were no real RFPs,
[30:21] uh, for that, my suggestion is going to be to, um, wait
[30:25] until January and then reappoint Salzman Hughes and Mr.
[30:28] Ulti for that position.
[30:33] And at the same time,
[30:37] we did receive correspondence, uh, from PMCA.
[30:41] Uh, they also have a rate increase for next year,
[30:46] and it is $10 an hour,
[30:49] and that's the first increase we've
[30:50] gotten since we've been with them.
[30:52] So, uh, again, counsel will have
[30:56] to reappoint in January who they want to do that.
[31:00] Uh, and then the last thing I have is, uh,
[31:03] we received this today.
[31:05] It's a road to independence, um, June 22nd to 26th.
[31:10] This is part of the Lincoln Highway two 50th,
[31:14] or as part of the nation's two 50th,
[31:16] but part of it's being, uh, done
[31:19] by the Lincoln Highway Association.
[31:22] So, uh, essentially they're, uh, trying
[31:25] to put together some things
[31:26] that people can do along Route 30 that, uh, you know,
[31:31] they can bring buses.
[31:33] They're looking to get seven buses, um, out of Philadelphia
[31:37] and back and forth Pittsburgh,
[31:39] and show people what's along Route 30.
[31:42] So, um, if you haven't seen the big shoe now's your time.
[31:48] Um, but if anybody wants any information,
[31:49] I have that here as well.
[31:52] And thank you, sir. Oh, okay.
[31:57] That concludes my report. All right. About time.
[32:00] I'm telling you I should actually do something.
[32:05] All right, Tim, you're up next.
[32:08] Okay. So data center ordinance, um, at the last meeting,
[32:13] uh, we discussed the only, uh, zoning district
[32:17] where a data center could go in.
[32:18] And obviously that's the commercial industrial
[32:22] district on the zoning map.
[32:23] That's the red area. Uh, on the map, uh, zoning.
[32:28] Officer Graham and I were, were charged
[32:30] of looking at the details of, uh, like setbacks and,
[32:34] and things like that within the ordinance to make sure
[32:37] that it would fit at least one of the, the existing lots in
[32:42] that zoning district.
[32:44] So we're, from a staffing perspective, we're kind
[32:48] of exhausted, uh, our expertise on this matter.
[32:53] Uh, so now we have a proposed zoning ordinance amendment,
[32:58] and the next step, Uh, that's a precondition for adoption is
[33:03] to send the ordinance to the Adams County Office of Planning
[33:06] and Development for their review.
[33:09] Most of the time for ordinances like zoning,
[33:12] ordinance amendments that are, that are pretty simple,
[33:16] we send them and then almost immediately
[33:19] advertise for the public hearing.
[33:22] This is a little different
[33:23] because, um, you know, a data center ordinance is,
[33:26] is a lot more complex than a normal
[33:29] zoning ordinance amendment.
[33:31] So one, one suggestion would be to send it
[33:35] to them now without scheduling a public hearing,
[33:38] have them review it, provide their comments,
[33:41] and then we can, uh, discuss whatever comments they have.
[33:45] They're, they're the planners. Um, I, I'm not a planner.
[33:49] Uh, chief Graham is not a planner as far as I know.
[33:53] Um, Dr. Bolton maybe. Nope.
[33:57] But I do not hold those credentials,
[34:00] But they are.
[34:01] So the idea is to is, you know, is to give it to them
[34:06] and have them review it and provide recommendations,
[34:10] and then move forward
[34:11] to towards adoption once we review those.
[34:16] And that could take them more than a month or so
[34:19] It, Yeah.
[34:21] Um, it'll take a month. Okay. Take a month.
[34:22] It'll take a month. So if we send it, you know,
[34:25] this week we, we make edit
[34:27] before your, your November meeting.
[34:30] Yeah, yeah.
[34:31] If I send it out tomorrow, they'll probably have it for us.
[34:34] Yeah. They usually get it over a week
[34:36] before the deadlines. They're pretty good.
[34:40] Yeah. I mean, we'll let 'em know.
[34:41] There's no public hearing scheduled, so, you know,
[34:44] we're really wanting their expertise on this and not,
[34:50] You Know, trying to push 'em too
[34:53] hard, so.
[34:56] Well, yeah, because this is gonna set a precedent
[34:58] for other municipality reviews too.
[35:02] Well, what's, yeah. And what's difficult
[35:03] here is we're in a borough.
[35:04] Mm-hmm. Right? So these data centers are,
[35:08] are usually cited in, in areas
[35:10] where there's much bigger landmass.
[35:14] We don't have the landmass here.
[35:17] Good thing for everybody.
[35:21] So that's the update on, uh, the data center.
[35:25] Um, any, any questions about that?
[35:29] Do you have a rough draft of that, that we're allowed
[35:30] to review ahead of time at all?
[35:33] Yes. Okay. Yeah.
[35:34] So do you need a motion for them to send that to the county?
[35:38] I, I mean, I, I Usually don't need a motion.
[35:42] Yeah. I, I think I've been authorized to prepare it
[35:45] and move it forward.
[35:46] So this is part of moving it forward, asking process.
[35:48] We're not advertising it. Right. So, yeah.
[35:51] So I think not. Okay.
[35:53] Okay. And, and, yes. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.
[35:58] So you'll send me a copy
[35:59] and I'll send in the municipal request.
[36:02] Yep. Okay. Okay.
[36:03] And I, I'll, I'll, I'll get on that tomorrow. I a copy.
[36:07] I wanna read it. You want a copy? Yeah.
[36:11] Gotta, I'm glad you want a copy. There's a lot of topics.
[36:15] Nobody else asked me for a copy.
[36:16] There's a lot of topics I wanna look at. I can't.
[36:20] No, that's good.
[36:21] So the, the next item has to do with, uh, the 2005 h
[36:26] and h car trailer case.
[36:27] As I reported last month, we had oral argument
[36:31] before the Commonwealth Court.
[36:33] Uh, we have a decision now.
[36:34] Uh, the decision upheld, uh, judge Wagner's, uh,
[36:38] May 6th, 2024, um, decision.
[36:43] So, I mean, this thing has been hanging
[36:46] around for a long, long time.
[36:48] So I, I haven't seen any, uh, request, uh,
[36:52] for further appeals to the PA Supreme Court.
[36:55] Uh, but it wouldn't surprise me,
[36:57] Uh, But I,
[37:00] I don't think the Supreme Court
[37:01] would take something like this.
[37:02] Mm-hmm. So,
[37:04] because the Commonwealth Court affirmed Judge Wagner's
[37:07] decision, we are now authorized to sell, uh, the trailer.
[37:12] Now, understand this, we don't get the money,
[37:17] the any kind of proceeds we get from the sale, we have
[37:20] to send that into the motor vehicle motor license
[37:23] fund or something like that.
[37:25] Interesting. Uh, we can, we can recoup our cost,
[37:28] but I don't think that means attorney's fees.
[37:30] I think it means the cost of the proceedings,
[37:32] which are relatively minor.
[37:35] But I mean, we will have costs in the process of selling it,
[37:39] because if we're gonna follow the borough code, uh,
[37:42] with this, uh, we're gonna have to advertise it for sale.
[37:47] It's, it's a, a sealed bid process.
[37:50] Uh, but along with that, we want
[37:52] to also advertise it in a wider
[37:55] way than just the Gettysburg Times
[37:58] because, um,
[38:00] no one will read the legal ads in the Gettysburg
[38:03] Times, typically.
[38:05] So, so the next step is to, uh, advertise it for sale.
[38:11] Um, I had previously worked on the advertisement, um,
[38:17] but it's not an action item for tonight.
[38:20] So I think it should be an action item for
[38:23] next month's agenda, uh, to authorize,
[38:28] Uh, The advertisement.
[38:31] So we have to do that
[38:34] by resolution if we're disposing of, right.
[38:38] Okay. Right. So I'll prepare a resolution for that
[38:45] costs, let's talk money.
[38:49] We build an impound lot
[38:53] to put it in, I guess.
[38:58] But we do have costs because of this.
[39:01] Oh, there's no doubt. There's no doubt.
[39:03] Uh, yeah. This,
[39:05] this has been an unfortunate situation for the borough.
[39:08] Uh, you know, we, but we had to do it.
[39:12] I mean, otherwise it, it would just sit there forever.
[39:15] Right. Without a title.
[39:16] So This thing has a title tags, vin every,
[39:18] well not tag, but I guess
[39:19] title, vin, all that nowadays. Mm-hmm.
[39:21] Well, it, it doesn't now, but,
[39:23] and what's odd about this is that the, the
[39:26] purchaser will have to obtain a new replacement VIN plate.
[39:31] So they gotta get through specialty construction
[39:33] and all that, I'm assuming.
[39:35] Yeah. So it, it, you know, whoever the,
[39:38] the purchaser is gonna have to know kind
[39:41] of how to deal with this.
[39:43] We, we have a court order that authorizes the sale
[39:46] that will authorize a replacement VIN plate for
[39:50] with pendot, but it's not a simple transaction
[39:54] where we have a, we don't even have a title.
[39:56] Gotcha. So it's, it's a little unusual,
[40:00] but that's the other little wrinkle here.
[40:03] So it, it might scare away like a normal
[40:08] guy who just wants the trailer.
[40:10] Right. Yeah. That's a pain in the butt
[40:14] Certified inspection station.
[40:15] You gotta take pictures of it.
[40:17] All the legal documents gotta be
[40:19] crossed eye and everything else. It's a pain.
[40:22] Right. Well, this whole thing has been a
[40:27] Pain and it, and
[40:28] It's an in and it's a special, uh, inspection on that too.
[40:31] Mm-hmm. You'll sit here another year,
[40:34] You'll have more money In that.
[40:36] So we can recoup the costs associated with the,
[40:39] with the proceedings and whatever.
[40:43] If there is a balance, we need to send that into the state.
[40:47] So you said we can't pay for attorney's fees outta that?
[40:50] No. Right.
[40:51] So, so if you prepare the ad,
[40:53] we can't pay you for it out of that.
[40:55] Right.
[40:57] Um, So I should probably prepare the ad
[41:02] Post it on Facebook,
[41:03] Even though I don't want to do all that.
[41:04] The other, um, the other suggestion is,
[41:09] the other suggestion is, um, uh, is municipal bid
[41:15] an adequate platform for us to sell that one?
[41:21] It is approved by the state.
[41:22] It it is, yeah. Um, and it would get us a bigger net.
[41:27] I don't think you're gonna get much for that.
[41:28] Oh, I know we're not, but we're gonna get even less
[41:31] if we sell it around here.
[41:34] Maybe. I, I, I'm certainly open to
[41:38] whatever suggestions counsel has about the best way
[41:41] of selling this thing. Okay.
[41:43] Um, But to your point, municipal bid will
[41:47] Work, I mean, better than an ad
[41:48] and a in the newspaper, you know?
[41:51] Yeah. I guess. Well, chief
[41:53] and I were talking about this today.
[41:54] We're trying to figure out what is the best way to do that,
[41:57] you know, so in addition, if we didn't go municipal bid,
[42:00] Just let me know. Yeah.
[42:02] Do you just post it for auction?
[42:04] Yeah. You basically post it for auction.
[42:05] You put a time limit on it,
[42:07] and then at the end of the auction,
[42:08] whoever bids highest gets it.
[42:10] Is, is that how like municipal bid works or, mm-hmm.
[42:13] Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's
[42:14] An, it's like eBay for municipals.
[42:16] I gotcha. Yeah.
[42:21] Scotty, Well, if you don't sell it,
[42:22] you can always just keep it and we'll use it to haul water
[42:26] or mulch for on the property.
[42:30] I like how you, you said that with street feast tight.
[42:32] See who's gonna haul it? So,
[42:34] I mean, for Public works crew, Scotty,
[42:37] you have a truck. If you end up office,
[42:39] The Park, your little tractor, you, uh,
[42:42] That pulled that.
[42:43] Yeah. In reality though, I mean, you
[42:47] could weld up walls on it if you want to.
[42:49] When you're talking a trailer, you could weld up walls
[42:51] and you could use it for public use.
[42:53] We have the other police to use for public use already.
[42:56] Are we allowed to keep it? No. No. Okay. Well, nevermind.
[43:00] We not joking anyway. Well,
[43:02] I mean, I, it was actually a good idea as far as function.
[43:08] All right. Anything else we
[43:11] have, you have anything else?
[43:13] Okay. So
[43:17] On the engineering side tonight, that I know
[43:19] Of, no.
[43:20] Nope. They're, uh, they are, um, that's in the process
[43:25] of, uh, reviewing Sutton Run,
[43:27] but I'm not gonna step on Chief's toes on that one, so.
[43:30] Okay. He'll cover that.
[43:33] All right. Dwayne, you have any words
[43:37] Of wisdom for us tonight? Yes.
[43:39] Good evening, everyone. Um, sorry for their apparel,
[43:42] but I just got outta the parlor.
[43:45] That's my job. Um, no, I, uh, chief, I heard, uh,
[43:50] all the vehicles are running good.
[43:52] No complaints. All fixed. All
[43:54] Fixed. Good deal.
[43:55] Yay. That's, that's good to know.
[43:58] Um, hey, I did wanna run this by you guys.
[44:02] I had a gentleman from, um, beaver Creek Very, he is one
[44:06] of a, a customer of mine.
[44:07] And, um, we have a disability van and stuff.
[44:10] I work on their name's. Uh, Bradley Ness.
[44:13] I don't know how you guys feel about doing something
[44:15] for Christmas time.
[44:17] He wants to be Santa Claus and he's done it.
[44:21] I mean, he sent me pictures of it, so I didn't know I'd run.
[44:25] I said, Hey, I'd run it by them.
[44:27] Santa Cla is sitting over there.
[44:31] He might be on a vacation.
[44:33] Oh no. Uhuh. He's seen all year round. But, but
[44:37] Brad asked me
[44:39] and he's, he's a wonderful, um, I'm sorry, he's, I said,
[44:43] Hey, I said, I mean, let me talk to I and see.
[44:46] I don't want to take Buzz's job, but,
[44:49] So You guys, if we can get him here
[44:52] or would you guys do what?
[44:53] Wanna talk with him and, and what day
[44:56] To do what?
[44:57] He said something about you wanna be Santa Clause
[44:59] for one night for, for AB Town.
[45:02] Sounds like he wants to
[45:03] have like a social event or something.
[45:04] Correct. Yeah. Like a trunk or tree for Christmas
[45:06] Or something to might want happen upon the
[45:08] Churches. But they, they
[45:09] usually do that at Ebac.
[45:10] And that's, can I, I, I know that, but,
[45:12] but yeah, I mean, you're the mayor. You're
[45:15] The mayor. Can I send
[45:16] him up and have approval?
[45:17] Do we have to get approval to do this? And
[45:20] What Here, Whatever night it's gonna be.
[45:22] He wants to be Santa Claus.
[45:26] I dunno. I'm just
[45:29] Don't Well, look at me. I'm not having,
[45:31] And he's a, and he's a wonderful guy. I,
[45:33] I got enough going now.
[45:34] No, I thought he there too, that we don't have any special.
[45:37] And I, and I, and I told him that,
[45:39] but, uh, he said, Mr. May, see what you can do.
[45:41] I said, whenever you want, buy the next meeting.
[45:44] No, there's the person who comes up with everything.
[45:46] That's what I'm thinking.
[45:47] That's why I'm looking right at him. Look at
[45:49] Him.
[45:50] Don't look at me. 'cause I'm not helping.
[45:52] Uh, so the mayor currently has
[45:55] approximately $170 in the line item.
[45:58] I know, I know you didn't spend it,
[46:00] but you have, uh, supplies
[46:02] and awards, $170 left of your budget.
[46:05] Yep. Um,
[46:08] we have a hundred dollars from your due subscriptions
[46:10] and memberships that were not used.
[46:15] So you do have some funds available at your discretion
[46:18] that are already budgeted.
[46:19] If you would like to do something, if you want council
[46:23] to do something on a larger scale Yeah.
[46:25] They'll have to approve that.
[46:29] Like if you did a night with the mayor type thing and Right.
[46:32] And brought Santa Claus and Yes, you could do that.
[46:36] We could chat later on about this, right?
[46:38] Yeah. Yeah. It's in's in your line of jury.
[46:40] Then if we need to counsel and then we'll just,
[46:42] You're authorized to tell me how
[46:43] to spend that money. That's what I would do.
[46:45] Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. At least I can tell him I touch base
[46:48] and then mm-hmm.
[46:49] It get from there. I think it'd be pretty cool for him.
[46:52] Yeah. He's a wonderful, it'd
[46:53] Be a nice thing to do. Yeah. Santa
[46:54] Claus, night of dws. There you go.
[46:58] After The party, free will change with every, after
[47:01] The part's closed.
[47:03] Good. But that's it. That's, that's all I have.
[47:06] All right. Thank you. Thank you. Uhhuh Code enforcement.
[47:11] Mm-hmm. Okay.
[47:18] Jay Mars has submitted their final, final draft
[47:22] of SU and run estate.
[47:26] This will be in here at the office during open hours.
[47:30] Anybody can come in and look at it.
[47:33] Uh, and Outlie outlays the project pretty much from start
[47:36] to finish and what the final
[47:40] Plan Is going to look like.
[47:42] Uh, since that just came in,
[47:43] now we don't have a planning commission.
[47:45] It needs to go to, uh, the office of,
[47:49] for the county planning and development for review.
[47:53] Uh, so same thing with them 30 days, once
[47:56] that request goes in, which the request did go in.
[48:01] So they have 30 days to get back to us with a response.
[48:04] Any, uh, criticism
[48:07] or errors that they see in the documentation.
[48:13] And that's about it for that.
[48:15] Uh, continuing to get some more sidewalks in.
[48:19] Sorry. I need an action item,
[48:21] or at least consensus to let the engineer engage on this
[48:26] so that they can review it as well.
[48:28] Our Engineer? Yeah. Oh, yes.
[48:30] Oh, I thought he was already,
[48:32] We wanna make sure that he's good.
[48:34] And give us a final Yes.
[48:36] Okay. Motion Made. It's, it's due diligence. Motion
[48:39] Made.
[48:40] Second.
[48:42] Okay. Motion Belo. Second by April. Any discussion?
[48:47] All those in favor say aye. A. Aye. Aye. Opposed?
[48:51] Motion carries. Thank you.
[48:55] Uh, continuing to put some additional sidewalks,
[48:59] more applications came in for repairs, so hopefully
[49:04] by spring
[49:05] or summer of next year, the borough should look pretty good,
[49:07] at least on Main Street.
[49:09] Should have all the issues with the sidewalks resolved.
[49:13] Uh, one property that was in serious disrepair,
[49:18] they've got their permits.
[49:20] That's West King Street, and they're, I met with them today,
[49:24] and they're gonna follow through
[49:25] with getting their roof repaired.
[49:29] So at this point, we don't have any
[49:33] properties in the borough that are in serious disrepair
[49:40] For The first time in a while.
[49:41] And it's still there, but it's being fixed.
[49:43] So I that's pretty good.
[49:47] Awesome. Uh, we have one property in the borough,
[49:50] which is dragging their feet, complying
[49:53] with the construction code.
[49:55] I talked to, uh, attorney Schultes today, uh,
[49:59] because it's kind of unique
[50:01] and there is a path moving forward to move
[50:05] that into remediation.
[50:08] Uh, And I think that is
[50:13] it for code at this point.
[50:17] Okay. Uh, police department.
[50:20] Police department, uh,
[50:23] as the mayor brought up, both cars are running.
[50:25] Okay. Knock on wood.
[50:28] Uh, we are approved
[50:32] by the Center for Traffic Safety.
[50:34] We had requested grant money for various enforcements
[50:38] for the 20 25, 20 26 period.
[50:42] And, um, we received grant money
[50:46] for those 11 projects for the entire period.
[50:52] And that will be for the impaired driving,
[50:54] aggressive driving occupant protection.
[50:58] Uh, and that occurs at different times throughout the year
[51:01] for certain periods.
[51:03] Uh, so many days.
[51:05] Uh, so they gave us a significant amount this year.
[51:09] Now some of that was also earmarked.
[51:13] Uh, since we are with, continuing with our contract
[51:17] with Berwick Township
[51:18] and their enforcement, we were actually able to apply
[51:22] for grant money for them as well.
[51:26] So some of their hours are going to be covered also by
[51:30] grant money from the Center for Traffic Safety.
[51:32] Thank you. Nice.
[51:34] So, uh, some of those roads that we cover for them,
[51:37] that bleeds over into Abbottstown, like Kinnaman Road, uh,
[51:41] some of the racetrack road issues, if we stop it over there,
[51:44] it's not coming into here, but Kinnaman certainly does.
[51:47] And 1 94 south of the borough, uh,
[51:51] when we stop the issues there, we stop it
[51:54] on South Queen Street.
[51:56] Yay. Yes. Mm-hmm.
[51:59] Uh, and King Street, same thing.
[52:04] So that is it for police at this time. Awesome.
[52:09] Thank you. Good. Thanks. All right.
[52:13] Emergency services. Have anything?
[52:20] All right. Committees.
[52:24] Uh, is there authority? Anything?
[52:28] I don't know if we're having a meeting this month or not.
[52:30] I didn't hear yet. Did you ma'am?
[52:34] Uh, A-C-B-A-P-S-A-B, anything? No.
[52:39] Council, governments, anything?
[52:41] Uh, legislative forum last month went really well.
[52:44] Um, if you get a chance, go
[52:46] to Community Media and check it out.
[52:48] Um, Senator Masano
[52:50] and Representative Mal gave, uh, some good, uh,
[52:55] feedback on some of the laws that were passed last year
[52:57] and some of the laws they're working on this year.
[52:59] So check it out.
[53:01] Where do I check that out? At
[53:03] Community Media.
[53:05] Let's Go to their website
[53:06] and look for the legislative form.
[53:10] All right. A-C-T-C-C.
[53:15] Budget and finance. Eac.
[53:20] The only thing is, again, I'm gonna
[53:22] say is giving sprees coming up in November.
[53:26] And even if you can only give a dollar,
[53:28] every little bit helps
[53:29] because every dollar that you get is kind of matched
[53:34] with what they get.
[53:36] And it really helps out a lot with what we're doing.
[53:41] Um, we're also trying to come up with new ideas
[53:45] for different, um, things to do for the towns.
[53:50] Um, and I just wish, really wish
[53:53] that you all can help out a little bit.
[53:56] I, it would be greatly appreciated.
[53:58] Okay. Okay. Parks and Recreation.
[54:04] Well, as you hear, hopefully we won't have
[54:10] A river anymore.
[54:11] Pretty much. Let's hope. Let's hope.
[54:13] Um, which will mean that whole area, if,
[54:18] if it dries up and stays dry, have to be all redone
[54:22] because all the trees
[54:23] and everything that was put in that place,
[54:26] including the seeds and stuff I have at home mm-hmm.
[54:29] Which I will plant or in the other area, um,
[54:34] was meant for wetlands.
[54:35] So we're gonna try to move some
[54:40] of the trees from that area as it dries up
[54:42] and move to the other area
[54:44] where we have wetness at most of the year.
[54:47] Um, and that's all we can basically do.
[54:49] If that area becomes dry enough, we will replant
[54:54] trees and bushes and flowers to suit that area.
[54:58] But we have to wait to see what becomes of it.
[55:01] Um, it may stay wet, not as wet, hopefully as it's now,
[55:06] but because you can sink up to your knees down there.
[55:09] Um, but hopefully I can. I know.
[55:12] Hopefully, yeah, I've been there.
[55:15] Um, hopefully we can get it finally situated
[55:20] that we actually have some nice things to watch
[55:24] and to look forward to in that whole area down there.
[55:29] Um, most of our trees are coming along.
[55:33] Um, I wanted to try to get more flowers planted.
[55:37] Um, the seeds are supposed to be spread this winter, so
[55:42] that's what I will be trying to do this late fall,
[55:46] probably end of November, sometime in December.
[55:49] I'll try to get those out.
[55:51] Um, so maybe we'll have even more flowers in the park next
[55:54] year, which would be nice.
[55:56] And again, please, anybody that can volunteer to help water,
[56:01] I would love to be able to plant plants
[56:02] in the planters up here.
[56:03] We also have more planters to put out,
[56:06] but I am not gonna put 'em out
[56:07] unless somebody's gonna help water them.
[56:10] Because is, even if I get two people
[56:15] to come, it takes you half an hour to water.
[56:17] Are the planners out here if you could help out?
[56:20] Um, thankfully we've got Aland House who does takes care
[56:25] of town center.
[56:29] Without them, you wouldn't have plants down there.
[56:31] They, they've planted, they've,
[56:35] They sent already crews.
[56:36] We worked together. Yeah. Yeah. They, I planted bulbs
[56:40] and stuff down there and they came along
[56:41] and said, okay, we're gonna put these plants in.
[56:44] And they put them in and they've been watering,
[56:46] taking care of everything.
[56:47] And same with coffee and Crump.
[56:49] Is it Crumpets Coffee and something? Crumbs. Crumbs there.
[56:54] Crumbs. Crumbs, yeah.
[56:55] Um, they've planted that planter over there too, so, um,
[56:59] it's really nice to see
[57:00] that everybody down there is getting involved
[57:03] and I really appreciate their help.
[57:05] It means a lot. And thank you for anybody
[57:09] who volunteers. Done.
[57:12] Thank You.
[57:14] Thank you. You have anything on the rest there?
[57:17] Uh, personnel Ed, Laura
[57:19] and I talked about some of the new hire candidates.
[57:21] Yeah. We went over the qualifications.
[57:24] Um, and, uh, sidewalks and streets.
[57:27] Um, we've started some line painting.
[57:31] Um, we've got some police lines going in
[57:34] and then we are going to touch up the lines
[57:37] that are in the center square.
[57:39] Uh, the crosswalks I think are done
[57:41] or no, they're get, they're going to get done.
[57:43] Um, and then we're going to get the, um,
[57:46] parking spots there done also.
[57:48] So it, it's been a couple years since we had those freshened
[57:51] up, so I try not to do it every year. But
[57:56] No, if people would just allow you
[57:57] to walk across the street, that would be fine. Yeah, well
[58:01] Remember we had those signs. I
[58:02] got their signs and then just run 'em over
[58:06] Like they didn't last.
[58:09] And the house and the squares up for auction.
[58:12] Yes. I saw that You didn't have it very long.
[58:15] You can end the mansion. Yep. Get online.
[58:18] Starting bid. 300,000. Yeah, that's what I heard. Yeah.
[58:22] I mean that's a big lot ain't it?
[58:24] Place It went up for auction
[58:26] for 1.3 when it first went up.
[58:28] Yeah. With the previous center and then it just kept Wow.
[58:32] Dwindling, annoying, dropping. What'd they sell for?
[58:35] Seven? Seven. I
[58:37] Don't remember. 600 something.
[58:38] I think 700,000
[58:40] something somewhere. Thought it
[58:41] Was just hundred or seven. I thought it was
[58:42] Something I could be wrong.
[58:44] I'd like to just tour the place. Just look
[58:47] At it. Actually on
[58:48] the website we have a video.
[58:50] We did tour the place. That'd be cool.
[58:52] A couple years ago and we filmed it. Okay. So
[58:54] The two openings they're having,
[58:56] you can go in and look at it.
[58:58] Yeah, they do have open houses too. I forget the dates.
[59:01] I don't know. I'm not, um, the state PCN came down
[59:05] and we Is it all out?
[59:07] The woman loves the house. She was like, I was like,
[59:10] no stuff down there.
[59:13] Alright, we went over correspondence. Yes.
[59:17] No old business I know of Mary didn't Any new business?
[59:21] Uh, nope. We'll talk. We're to public comment.
[59:26] Okay. Uh, rich Valentine? No, I'm good. Thank you sir.
[59:32] Walter Baker Buzzy. Thanks sir. George Miller.
[59:37] Good. Thanks sir. Perry Shearer? No, I'm good. Thank you.
[59:41] Thank sir. Debbie Shearer? No, thank you.
[59:45] Joan Weaver. Good. Thank you ma'am. Mercy Nichols.
[59:50] I'm Good. You're good. Stephanie Wagner.
[59:55] Two Takes. Yes ma'am. On
[59:56] Our, uh, street behind us, the 15 mile per hour,
[1:00:01] um, speed limit.
[1:00:02] It's in the tree. People aren't seeing it.
[1:00:05] Okay. They're Flying down that road.
[1:00:08] And how hard would it be to get a sign back there
[1:00:11] that says children at play?
[1:00:15] We have children, you know, all along there
[1:00:18] I have, I have signs in the shed.
[1:00:21] I think I have a sign in the shed. Can we get it put up?
[1:00:27] Yeah. It's not doing any good in the shed.
[1:00:29] Well then let's put her up. Let's
[1:00:31] Get it up. Just
[1:00:31] Alert them that you, there's sign down there.
[1:00:33] It's only 15 miles an hour.
[1:00:35] We've got 'em going up and down in a one way.
[1:00:38] Um, and it's constant.
[1:00:41] So anytime it backs up, we're getting it behind us.
[1:00:44] Now that's always, And it's always,
[1:00:46] but you know, I want 'em to be able to see
[1:00:49] that speed limit sign.
[1:00:51] Then the sign beyond that,
[1:00:53] that basically tells 'em a truck across.
[1:00:56] Hit that and knocked it over
[1:00:58] so it's laying in our neighbor's yard.
[1:01:01] So, so what I can do is I can have Wick come in,
[1:01:03] put up the new sign, cut back, anything
[1:01:05] that needs visibility.
[1:01:07] That's what we need. Yes, definitely. Yeah. Was that
[1:01:11] Straight on again? That's
[1:01:12] it's on the one way. West Fleet. West Fleet.
[1:01:15] Oh, okay. One way down, down the back. Yep. Oh, okay.
[1:01:19] Down the back by GNSI gotcha.
[1:01:21] Well, sometimes they do.
[1:01:22] When I go out for test drives there,
[1:01:24] it's not delivery trucks either.
[1:01:26] We have people coming down through there
[1:01:28] and I was always wondering if I could just get Chief
[1:01:31] Graham there quick enough. Trust me.
[1:01:36] We, we have, we have met people
[1:01:37] There. Yep.
[1:01:38] Yeah. And they have no conscience. They just,
[1:01:41] It's not even Like they come right down through.
[1:01:43] There's not wide. So I sit there and I look at 'em. There's
[1:01:45] No, like, I don't know what you're gonna rush for.
[1:01:46] There's a road.
[1:01:48] It's right there at one point every intersection. Okay.
[1:01:52] Kathy, any thank you.
[1:01:56] P-B-R-P-B-R. Oh, Mr. Royer.
[1:02:02] I thought it was beer time.
[1:02:10] Um, it's over beer time for me.
[1:02:11] That, you know what I'm thinking? Are you buying?
[1:02:13] You're buying, you're, uh,
[1:02:16] Travis Elizabeth?
[1:02:19] Nope. Okay. Thank you. That's everybody. Anybody else?
[1:02:23] Justin? I don't think you've signed in. Yeah, I wasn't
[1:02:25] Planning on speaking, but, uh, I would like to volunteer
[1:02:27] for doing the plants for water and the plants and stuff.
[1:02:29] Me and my wife, we talked about it. We're willing to do it.
[1:02:32] That'd be awesome. That's Nice.
[1:02:34] Until Ashley, you signed her up.
[1:02:36] I already told her. She already knows. I asked her first.
[1:02:40] She loves her plants though. She's a smart man.
[1:02:42] Well, good. She'd be a good one to do that. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:02:44] It only takes like a half an hour. And Abby was doing it.
[1:02:49] Yeah. Now she's got two jobs and an internship.
[1:02:53] Yeah. Understood. She's so busy.
[1:02:55] It's, you know,
[1:02:57] it only takes about a half an hour to water them.
[1:02:59] The water's out there, you just need to f**k it.
[1:03:02] It doesn't take long and really appreciate it.
[1:03:05] We, we had a lady that was doing it for a while,
[1:03:07] then we had a boy scout that was doing it for a while.
[1:03:09] Then the kids were coming in to do it.
[1:03:11] Now the kids are too old.
[1:03:14] I'll do it. Well,
[1:03:16] between the two of you, it would be awesome.
[1:03:18] 'cause then it, they would go on.
[1:03:21] Yeah. So, so if you would just make sure Laura has your
[1:03:23] phone numbers and go around so you can coordinate with her.
[1:03:27] And then if you guys need anything, she'll let me know.
[1:03:29] I'll try. Yep. Thank you.
[1:03:33] Anybody else? I think that's everybody.
[1:03:36] Okay. Thank you. All right. Good of the order.
[1:03:42] April, do you have anything? I
[1:03:44] Do not.
[1:03:46] Dwayne, do you have any additional?
[1:03:50] No. No, but I'll volunteer if any
[1:03:52] of them cars break down on the square.
[1:03:55] I got, I got a phone call right before closing.
[1:03:59] Remember that? That was what was that last year, Scotty?
[1:04:02] Yeah, I think so. Yes. When that one truck broke down, I,
[1:04:04] David new pocket, full tools
[1:04:06] and take the step door up there.
[1:04:08] I got 'em out of the way. A cable truck had a generator on
[1:04:12] the back through a serpentine belt.
[1:04:14] That was my volunteer. But it did pay, but it did pay good.
[1:04:20] But now I don't. That's it.
[1:04:21] Alright, Laura. Um, two things.
[1:04:24] Thank you all for coming. I appreciate it.
[1:04:26] I like seeing people coming in
[1:04:29] and finding out what's going on in this town.
[1:04:32] Mm-hmm. It really makes me happy.
[1:04:35] Um, the other one is,
[1:04:37] remember the golden rule doing unto others
[1:04:39] as you want them to do unto you.
[1:04:40] For goodness sakes. It doesn't take that much.
[1:04:43] I treat others as you want to be treated.
[1:04:47] There's no sense in the whole world right now needs it.
[1:04:53] And I just hope we all do it
[1:04:56] because I'm make it for a better place to live. Thank you.
[1:05:01] Thank you. Um, I received, uh,
[1:05:05] correspondence from, uh, St.
[1:05:07] John's Church. The trunk
[1:05:10] or treat this year will be held October 26th,
[1:05:15] starting at 5:00 PM
[1:05:16] That's What I text to
[1:05:17] You, Laura. Yeah.
[1:05:18] I write everything on here.
[1:05:23] Are are, are they gonna send me their flyer? Oh, I have.
[1:05:26] I'll send it to you. Okay. Sean usually does send Yeah.
[1:05:29] And I'll put it on Savvy. Yep. Okay.
[1:05:32] All right. That's all I have.
[1:05:36] Dennis, do you have anything just motion to
[1:05:40] Ajour? No, well not
[1:05:41] yet. Uh, Austin.
[1:05:46] Well, Laura stole my thunder,
[1:05:47] but thanks everybody for showing up from literally day one
[1:05:51] of me being on here till now.
[1:05:53] You know, whether people are here to, you know,
[1:05:54] speak about something or just listen.
[1:05:56] It's great to see the public's actually becoming more
[1:05:58] interested and more vocal about
[1:06:01] everything going on, you know?
[1:06:02] 'cause without you guys, we're not doing what we do.
[1:06:04] And if you're not here, we can't
[1:06:07] properly represent you guys, you know, which,
[1:06:08] what we're elected to do at the end of the day.
[1:06:10] Very true. So I'm appreciative
[1:06:12] to see a, you know, a room full of people.
[1:06:14] I know it's a small town, but you know, small town,
[1:06:16] everybody should almost know each other
[1:06:18] and you ought
[1:06:19] to communicate with each other at the end of the day. Thank
[1:06:21] You. We were all nice.
[1:06:22] You look a nice
[1:06:24] Meeting. Yeah.
[1:06:25] Yeah.
[1:06:27] There's no, we're nice to you. Right.
[1:06:29] But you might have to get a bigger room.
[1:06:32] I think so. You know, I was thinking of that.
[1:06:35] Get a bigger room. Thank you.
[1:06:36] Alright. If it gets that busy, that'd
[1:06:39] Be great. I just,
[1:06:40] um, I concur. Laura and Austin.
[1:06:44] I mean, it's hard
[1:06:46] to represent people when people don't tell you
[1:06:49] what they want until they don't want something.
[1:06:51] Yeah. And, and then it's not, Hey, what can we do for you?
[1:06:56] It's what should we not do for you
[1:06:58] because you don't want us to take certain actions.
[1:07:01] So it, it, it helps to be involved in the process that,
[1:07:04] to sit and listen to the conversations,
[1:07:07] to know why the decisions are made.
[1:07:10] I know Austin and I have had conversations
[1:07:12] and I've filled him in on why decisions were made in the
[1:07:15] past and what deliberations were, um, you know,
[1:07:19] 'cause he wasn't here when those happened.
[1:07:21] Um, but I'm really proud of you, ma'am.
[1:07:24] Right. I talk a lot. I'm proud of
[1:07:26] You. You, you've
[1:07:27] started taking your training,
[1:07:28] you've started looking into things
[1:07:30] and I, I, you know, I,
[1:07:32] I know April says all the time, get your training.
[1:07:33] Get your training. I was gonna say often.
[1:07:36] That was pretty nice. What,
[1:07:38] Which part? Just what
[1:07:39] you Yeah, just I can be nice. I can
[1:07:41] Tell you. I
[1:07:42] feel the vibe on you. Laura's
[1:07:45] Done a lot of work. You,
[1:07:46] You must have. It's been hard.
[1:07:48] Your HVAC system must have went good today, didn't it?
[1:07:51] Yeah, actually it did. I had a crappy
[1:07:54] day, but I put a smile on.
[1:07:56] But no, I, I, I do wanna thank everybody
[1:07:58] for coming, um, for being involved.
[1:08:00] Um, if you've got questions, call me during the week.
[1:08:03] I'm sorry if I don't pick up immediately.
[1:08:06] I'm very busy, but I always get back to people.
[1:08:08] I always make sure you're taken care of.
[1:08:10] Um, I know Travis was at the door the other day
[1:08:13] and you know, he saw the sign and he called the phone number
[1:08:16] and Mr. Graham got to him right away.
[1:08:19] And, you know, we're sorry
[1:08:20] that's happening right now, but, uh,
[1:08:22] That was just an FYI post, I am so sorry.
[1:08:25] That got heated somehow.
[1:08:26] Yeah. That's why I'm not in there.
[1:08:29] I dunno how that happened
[1:08:30] For an FYI, I don't, I don't know.
[1:08:34] But, but, you know, I just wanted to point out, you know,
[1:08:36] you, you came to the door,
[1:08:38] you know, and it's the same thing.
[1:08:39] You know, people come to the door, they call
[1:08:41] that phone number, they get me on the cell phone.
[1:08:43] So, you know, even if I'm not in here
[1:08:45] or if I am in here, a gentleman called me earlier
[1:08:47] and says, Hey, you know, I'm at the door.
[1:08:49] And I said, good. I'm in the office, gimme a minute.
[1:08:52] And I come around to get him.
[1:08:53] So, um, yeah, just, you know, we all gotta work together.
[1:08:57] We've all gotta make sure, you know,
[1:08:58] if you're upset about something, let's talk about it.
[1:09:00] Let's get it worked out. Let's find a solution.
[1:09:03] Just like Ms. Wagner, you know, she had, she had a problem.
[1:09:07] She came in, we found a solution right away.
[1:09:08] We'll get it taken care of. So, continue to work together.
[1:09:13] Good deal. Thanks.
[1:09:15] All right, next council meeting.
[1:09:17] November 20th at 6:00 PM Aye. Dennis. Already motion.
[1:09:21] Dennis Already Motion. Dennis made a motion.
[1:09:24] We have a second. Second. Have a second.
[1:09:26] All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Done.
[1:09:30] Thanks Dennis.