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Council meeting of Thursday, September 3, 2026. This meeting is being held in performance with the

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Sunshine Statement, this meeting is being held in performance, sorry about that.

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Performance with your public meeting at, notice that we're posted on the

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The next open public meeting of the Township Council will be held on Thursday, September 17th,

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2026 and 6 o'clock P.M., roll call please.

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Councilwoman Kelly.

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Here.

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Councilwoman Mirabelle.

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Here.

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Councilwoman Montau.

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Here.

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Councilman Swindle.

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Here.

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Councilwoman Zavorskis.

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Excuse.

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Debbie Mayer-Hers.

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Here.

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Mayor Cannon.

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He's on his way.

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Thank you very much.

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May we all rise, please, for a moment of silence.

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So we can remember all of those first responders that keep us safe as well as those families

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that are now suffering in Minneapolis once again.

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Please join us in the pleasure of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which

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it stands.

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One nation under God.

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Undervisible.

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Undervisible.

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Remedies injustice for all.

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Okay, we're going to start with council reports, we're going to start on this end with councilman

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Swindell.

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Definitely.

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Thank you.

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Councilwoman Kelly.

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I'd like to just talk about the fun that we had when we were a Saturday at the Madder

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One Lakefront.

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It was a wonderful activity, a whale boat race, it was a competition between keyboard,

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It was a couple of hours of just, you know, just camaraderie and, you know, fun at the

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Maddenhorn Lakefront, there were food trucks, there was a lot of people there, and eventually

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we got into the crates.

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Mayor Cannon was saved, or is that what the word was, from by a boat that was commanding

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in your environment, please support it.

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And it was a close finish, it was a close finish at the end

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and Mayor Canyon pulled it off by racing

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and beating it everywhere.

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It was just a front day, and it was a nice activity.

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I hope they do it every year.

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Thank you very much, Councilwoman, my time.

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So I just want to, and I've advertised it so many times,

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but I do have to talk about the very successful

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property tax relief filing assistance event.

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that we had on August 26th, Marie, you did a fabulous job, your staff, one wash, everybody

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that came out to work, the event started at 1 o'clock at 10.30 in the morning, the line

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began to form. By the time I got there at 12.30, thinking I was a half hour early, the line

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was going basically halfway around the building and when we finally opened the doors it was amazing.

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I think by about two o'clock we actually had to close the event out because the state knew

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that they couldn't possibly work with any more people. We got to number one hundred I think in

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90, 98, 198. There were easily over 200 people there. Even the people who weren't seen we helped them

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figure out where they could go next. What an event. And I have to give Kudos to Mayor

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Cannon because when he walked in and saw so many people sitting at so many tables, he

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said, you know what, they've been here a long time. Let's feed them. So he went out and he

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bought pizza and subs and drinks. And I think that really made everybody happy. They were very

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happy to be fed and get their filing done. So Kudos again, everyone, Brian, everyone in

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This office, successful, successful event.

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Excellent, thank you very much.

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Councilman Maribel.

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Great, thank you so much, Deputy Mayor.

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I want to remind everybody about the Aberdeen Day coming up September 27th.

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We had a very good meeting about the beach renovation project coming up and where we stand.

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And so hopefully we'll be able to do something by the end of the year, but it was a pretty

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good meeting.

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I also wanted to just echo that we have gotten a lot of good reports from the tax relief

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session, which Mark mentioned, which was great, from a lot of the people thanking the township

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and everyone else, so great job again.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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The only thing I want to just remind everybody on 9-11 and in 11 a.m. we will have our 9-11

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memorial service here at Town Hall in front of the memorials piece that we picked up from

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the 9-11 disaster. We hope everybody does show up. It's 11 o'clock here at Town Hall.

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Please try to make it. It's an important event and it's something we should never ever forget.

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Mr. Manager.

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Thank you, Deputy Mayor.

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Just, I think just the follow-ups that I would have is,

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again, thanking Marie and her staff for the tax prep program.

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Marie, we will look into if the state does come back again and want to do this with you.

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We will look at trying to see if we can find our bigger facility to handle everybody.

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So we get a little bit more room, so we definitely will already start working on that with you for that.

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That the Mill and Paves have started for the 2026 Roach Program.

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Shore Concourse is at their final stages of finishing up that project with punch list

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and final top coats and restorations to be done.

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Again, Aberdeen Day is, on September 27th, as the councilman said, 11-4 and also the sports

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memorabilia portion is from 1-3.

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We have between two and three athletes that are coming.

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They will be released next week.

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We're just finalizing with a few of them

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just to make sure that schedules are good.

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Since this year, it's on a Sunday,

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kind of changed up on what athletes could actually

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be available to do schedules.

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And rather than that, Deputy Mayor,

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I have nothing else.

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And I can go into workshop if you'd like.

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I would love you because you like to workshop.

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So on our workshop for tonight,

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I do have department heads here for anyone who has any questions directly for them, and on the agenda for this evening for continued business we have the public hearing and final adoption on the general ordinance 9-42, the regulations for parking, the electric vehicle charging stations specifically at the train station.

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Ordnance 1826 is again public hearing and final adoption.

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That's establishing the procedures and abatement for property maintenance violations and defects in public nuisances.

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Ordnance 19-2026 is public hearing and final adoption for the ordinance appropriation of the $2.6 million grant that we received from the state of New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection.

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and ordinance 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 26 is again public hearing and final adoption for the ordinance appropriating $170,273 from the community development block grant.

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On regular business for tonight, we have a resolution 127 that is approving a change order number three for fireman's park improvements.

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Resolution 1-28 is allowing a tax appeal, sorry, serving the tax appeal of the 2027 annual

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township reassessment to the tax assessor, and we have two raffle licenses for this evening as

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well. Thank you very much. At this time, I'd like to open up the meeting for public comment on

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agenda items only. If you have any questions regarding anything that is on the commenty agenda,

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please come up to the mic. Give us your name and address and we'll be more than happy to move forward.

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Not seeing anybody coming up front, I'm going to ask Councilman Swindell for a motion on the minutes.

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So the Deputy Mayor and my fellow Council members like to make a motion to accept the minutes from August 20th, 20th, 26 meeting minutes.

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second. Second. Second. Councilman Kelly.

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Yes. Councilman Mirabelle. Yes. Councilman Montone. Yes.

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Councilman Swindell. Yes. Deputy Mayor Hirsch. Yes. Thank you very much. I would like to

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now call on Phil

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Yep. First. Okay. I'm very confused. I apologize.

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And I apologize for my tardiness, I went home to put on my ratio, and there were half a dozen young Huskies fans in my basement, who by some miracle put down their fortnight machines, and asked me to buy the tickets to the football game, and I couldn't reasonably say no.

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So I apologize for being tardy, especially given my prior declarations on the base of it about fortnight and getting out of the house.

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So here we are at ordinance 17, 2026, thank you Deputy Mayor Hirsch for bringing us to this point.

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Ordin 17-2026 was introduced and passed on first reading by title on August 20th, 2026 and published according to law is now being taken up for further public hearing and further consideration during the week prior to, including the date of this meeting, copies of the full ordinance were available at no cost to the general public upon request.

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Madam Clerk.

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An ordinance mending and supplementing general ordinances of the township of Aberdeen, section

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9-42, regulation of parking and electric vehicle charging stations.

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And at this point I would open the meeting to the public for remarks or comments for against

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the final adoption of this ordinance.

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This sets regulations for our new EV charging stations at the train station and really kind

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of sets a precedent standard for any other stations that are installed on public grounds going

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forward as well.

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seeing none, I'll take a motion to close the public area.

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I'll close. Make that motion. Second. Second. All in favour?

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Aye.

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And with that, I'll turn to Councilwoman Kelly for a motion to adopt ordinance 17-26.

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Mayor, my fellow councilmembers, I'd like to make a motion that ordinance 17-2026 be finally passed and adopted.

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And that notice of its passage and adoption be published on the Aberdeen Township website.

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Second.

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Councilwoman Kelly.

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Yes.

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Councilman Maribel.

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Yes.

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Councilwoman Montone.

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Yes.

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Councilman Swindell.

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Yes.

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Deputy Mayor Hersh.

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Yes.

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Mayor Cannon.

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Yes.

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Now we're trying to ordinance number 18-2026, which is introduced and passed on first shooting by title on August 20th, 2026.

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And published according to law is now being taken up for public hearing and further consideration.

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During the week prior to, including the date of this meeting copies of the full ordinance were available at no cost to the general public upon request.

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Madam Clerk, title of the ordinance.

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In ordinance of the township of Aberdeen County of Monmouth, state of New Jersey, establishing

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procedures for the abatement of property maintenance violations, defects, and public nuisances.

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Authorizing the township to perform such work and assess the cost thereof as the meanest

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belief.

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Thank you.

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Now, I will open the meeting to the public for remarks or comments for against the final adoption

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of ordinance.

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For the public record, this ordinance establishes notice and evaporation periods, as well as

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potential leans as municipal charges,

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a municipal property for code violations for transparency sake.

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This is in direct response to certain code enforcement situations we have encountered

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around the township.

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That do not have not succumbed to the ordinary municipal court process or other types of enforcement.

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And this allows the township upon notice to go on to those properties and remedy the situation

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and then charge the cost thereof as a lean.

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Thank you very much, Mayor.

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Yes, I mean, by way of background, in my day job, I've used this ordinance in the

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borough of Red Bank to remedy some very difficult situations.

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It does not exist in our borough, excuse me, township code, so I took it from their borough.

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Code, and hopefully it'll help us here already some of these recalcitrant situations that affect quality of life for the neighborhood.

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Outstanding. Seeing no one in favor or against, we'll take a motion to close the hearing to the public.

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I'll make that motion. Second. Second. I was hold on, wait a minute, we're not. Yes, on ordinance 18-2026, this is the abatement of property maintenance violations. Do you have any comments, Mr. Chair?

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Mr. Aaron, do you want to get up and talk about this one or no?

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Okay, thank you.

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Do we have a second to close the public area?

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Second, thank you.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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And with that, I will turn to Councilwoman Montone for a motion.

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Mayor Cannon, Deputy Mayor Hirsch, I would like to make, and fellow council members, I'd like to make a motion that ordinance 182026 be finally passed and adopted and that notice of its passage and adoption be published on the board.

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the Aberdeen Township website.

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Second.

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Councilman Minkali.

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Yes.

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Councilman Miroville.

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Councilman Manto.

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Councilman Swindow.

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Deputy Mayor Hersch.

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Yes.

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Mayor Cannon.

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Yes.

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Now we'll turn to ordinance 19-2026,

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which was introduced and passed on first reading

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by title on August 20th, 26,

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and published according to law,

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which is now being taken up for public hearing

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and further consideration.

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During the week two, and prior, excuse me, during the week prior two, and including a date of this meeting, copies of the four ordinance were available at no cost to the general public upon request.

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Madam Clerk, title of the ordinance.

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The ordinance of perverting $2,694,505.30 from a grant from the State of New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection to provide for the Cliffwood Beach Hybrid Living Shoreline Project, and by the township of Aberdeen and the county of Monmouth, New Jersey.

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Thank you.

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Now open the meeting to the public for remarks or comments or against the final adoption of this ordinance.

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For transparent's sake, this is appropriating the funds that we received from the DEP to restore Cliffwood Beach.

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And we're hoping to start that project when, Mr. Manager?

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I wrote in front of the, still this late fall.

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So we're hoping, we're hoping to get shovels in the ground this fall before the end of the year to start rebuilding the shoreline there.

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Again, getting it back from Lake Shore Drive and Ocean Boulevard, most importantly.

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I will take a motion to close public hearing.

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Motion to close public hearing.

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Anyone second?

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Second.

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All in favour?

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Hi.

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And now I'll turn to Councilman Mirabelle for a motion regarding this ordinance.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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The Chair of the Clifford Beach Community as well.

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Councilmember.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to make a motion that ordinance 19, that's 2026.

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We finally passed and adopted and that notice of its passage and adoption be published on the Aberdeen Township website.

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Second. Councilwoman Kelly. Yes. Councilman Mervo. Yes. Councilwoman Montone. Yes. Councilman Swindall. Yes.

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Deputy Mayor Hersh. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Now we'll turn to ordinance 20-26 which was introduced and passed on first reading by Title of August 20 of 20-26 and published according to law and is now being taken up for public hearing and further considered.

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During the week prior to including data's meeting copies of the four ordinance were available at no cost the general public upon request not of course title the ordinance ordinance appropriating $170,273 from a community development

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development grant from the county of Monmouth to provide for recreation department and ADA improvements at 30 noble place in and by the township of Aberdeen and the county of Monmouth, New Jersey.

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Thank you, now open the meeting to public comments for or against the adoption of this ordinance.

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And for transparency sake, this is appropriating the funds of another grant.

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This one's received through the CDBG, which is a federal program through the county of MAMIF.

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And we're looking to revamp the former senior center at Noble Place into the center of our recreation department.

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And also continue the development of the park property over there.

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A lot of people are using it as parking improvements is well included in it, which will help alleviate some of the

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of those peak times, and if anyone has anything to say,

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now it's the time.

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Seeing none, I'll take a motion to close the public here.

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I'll make that motion.

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Any second?

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Second.

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All in favor?

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All right.

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Now I'll turn to councilman Swindall

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for a motion regarding ordinance 20-26.

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To the mayor, deputy mayor of my fellow council members,

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like to make a motion that ordinance number 20-26

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be finally passed and adopted

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And that notice of its passage and adoption be published on the Aberdeen Township website.

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Second.

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Councilwoman Kelly.

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Yes.

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Councilwoman Maribel.

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Yes.

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Councilwoman Montone.

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Yes.

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Councilman Swindle.

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Yes.

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Deputy Mayor Hersh.

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Yes.

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Mayor candidate.

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Yes.

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No, I'll turn to our consent agenda and Deputy Mayor Hersh.

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Yes, to the Mayor and my fellow Councilmembers, I'd like to make a motion to accept

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but the consent agenda,

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consisting of resolution 2026-127 and 128

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and referral license 1363 and 1364.

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On second.

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Councilwoman McKelley.

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Yes.

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Councilman Maribel.

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Yes.

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Councilwoman Montellan.

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Yes.

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Councilman Swindell.

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Yes.

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Deputy Mayor Hersh.

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Yes.

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Mayor Cannon.

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Yes.

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Now we've reached the portion of our meeting,

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which is open mic.

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This is the hearing of the citizens on any agenda, excuse me, on any item, anything you'd like to bring to the Council's attention for the good and welfare of the township.

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Good

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evening, Jane Herron, we each draw it, and congratulations on the win. That's awesome, yay.

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Thank you.

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First of many.

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Hopefully.

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Okay.

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Can you get closer to the mic, please?

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I'll lift it up a bit. Yeah, I'll go.

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I also wanted to bring up, I mentioned it at the last meeting, but I don't know if it's a new format they were trying or a lot of us found it very helpful, there was interaction between the community and the council and the town manager, we were able to ask questions and they answered rather than having and no disrespect mentioned or meant, but rather than having one voice, it was helpful to hear from the other members of the council

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and the town manager directly.

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So if that was just a test run, I tried again

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because a lot of us found it helpful.

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I'm here tonight, again, bringing up the issue

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of the storm management system, especially on beach drive.

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And we need to, I'm requesting immediate response

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and something to be done because this can't go on.

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We have we were less flooded a major flood in 2014 and things have been pretty

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Stable there have been torrential downpours through the years that have not been any big deal

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In the last two months we've now been flooded twice in our home on the

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7th of July and then again last Thursday

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Two other times in between

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I mean the street flooded, the backyard came onto our property and our yard was flooded.

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Fortunately it didn't come to the house and one other time in that same two month period, it started raining.

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I thought it sounds like it's raining really heavy.

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Let me go take a look.

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In a matter of two minutes, the storm drain in front of our house was already over.

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I mean, if we have a storm management system on our street that can't take two minutes of rain water

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We're in trouble and it's not acceptable. Do you know what the tide was at the time? I'm sorry

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Well, the storm drain on your street is only effective as high as the tide is

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No, it's the tide the tide come you follow me because the pipe outfalls into the bay

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So if the tide is high, it's much less effective that it loads high absolutely well

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Overall, it's not very effective because we need to clean the one out that's down the street from your house

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That's part of the upcoming road project, but in general, that's also a factor as well

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Well, they're gonna need to do I have pictures. They're gonna need to do more than clean out the main

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Outfall that's there, but the other issue

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is

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That each drive isn't the only one that uses those outfalls

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So it's the streets all above us all come down there and it's a waterfall effect and

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And we're the last guy there because it's flat, so we don't have any propulsion of the water to get there, so as these waterfalls are coming from up above us, they can fill that culvert.

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And if the culvert overflows before the bay is able to go out to the bay, it back washes to us.

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So basically our street is like a holding tank until the water can get out to the bay.

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And something has definitely changed recently because, like I said, we haven't had a major any big floods in 12 years and now, sadly, in two months.

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It just, nothing has, nothing is, plus we're also getting bombarded with mud.

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There's been mud coming from the south side of the street. I'm not sure where it's coming from.

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And it's also coming from the right across the street, the hill across the street from us.

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I have videos of just like this little waterfall of mud that ends up in our house, but it's also not been cleaned out.

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I know the water, it looks like water is going out of the two outfalls, although there's supposed to be three.

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It looks like water's going out, but I seriously doubt it's coming from beach drive, especially when the rain is really hitting hard, when you've got all those other drains from on top of us getting there before us.

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and pushing back to us if it can't get out to the bay at that point, it comes back to our street again.

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So, it's like we need to have an engineering, some kind of a capacity test.

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I mean, these things were built 50 years ago.

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When there was a lot less building, people made their homes bigger.

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There's also less water absorption because people have taken trees down and maybe put asphalt in or made homes.

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But it's just I know I talked to a neighbor that lived there prior to we were moving in and he said this has been going on for far longer than just being there since 2012.

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And it just can't continue.

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And we feel like I feel like we're having this road work done, but if we don't address the whole storm system and the outfalls are totally inadequate,

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The water is going to end up back underneath the roads, causing cracks again, causing sinkholes, so we're going to do all this work and be right back where we started from.

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It's kind of like that right now the storm drains on our street or like the road to nowhere.

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They can't get out, they can't get to the culvert, they can't get out to the bay, so just come on into my house or any of our houses.

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is unfortunately or fortunately we love our community

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and I love our neighborhood,

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but we're the lowest property there.

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We had no idea about all this when we first moved in

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and it's been like I said,

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fine already multiple times it's been fine

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for the last 12 years and suddenly in the last two months

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is it's not acceptable, it's not safe.

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I don't know what the muck is that comes into our house.

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We already had it remediated once and I'm welcome to do it again for another $4,000.

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So, but if it's going to keep raining like this or coming in like this every time, it's just one,

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I mean one torrential downpour. It didn't last that long. It was torrential, but it didn't last that long.

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I mean, we've had overnight torrential downpour as that nothing comes into our house.

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So, I'm asking for some kind of immediate response or plan or something to do more than nothing.

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Okay, so when we do the road projects, we're going to, do you have a plan for the storm system?

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Please, we're not there.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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I don't think the people, if anyone's watching online, they can't hear you if you're on the back there.

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You got to come up to you got to come up here grab another mic or something and I will say Mr. Patterson was kind of

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I believe that

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The code work that is located to the right of the property at pictures of the code work

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and the code work flowing to the outfall.

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The neighborhood grocery street that come out and say they have a basement in the backyard

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and a fence full of debris.

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I have to meet with Jerry.

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There are some issues with one of the adjacent property, waiting each and self fence.

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I was just going to ask you if the water is flowing and that means it's a greeting problem, right?

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No, not necessarily.

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I don't have the numbers.

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I can talk to the engineer.

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Okay.

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I have to go back on the stones.

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At one inch per hour, 1.5 inch per hour, you know, a standard stone drain is not built.

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you're taking that right on. Stone drains are built for nosing. It's not built for the adverse effects of a heavy

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downward. So I do understand that the property did receive water. She is the lowest point sitting there at the base and

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I think it's the, I mean, it's a foot hazard zone.

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in front of her house, sits in front of her home.

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Also, the property adjacent to her life

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is elevated so the water runs off of their property

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onto the side of the market.

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And so that also runs there and runs down

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on into the drive which leads into the home.

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Gentlemen, across the street,

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we went over to clean out the basin by hand.

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I'll address these self-defense

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with the former Corpman agent

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to either register to get something there.

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On parcel self-defense

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but it's not working.

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Other than that, having an engineer come out and look at it to see through that, I also

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did state to you at that point in time that yes, the development of footer beach is less

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trees.

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There's more in verb and verb is services, so there's no way for the water to go.

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So again, the current system does come out.

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Okay, it's just a matter of capacity.

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This is what it looked like.

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I didn't get a chance to show it to you before I came.

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This is what it looked like, and I'm happy to show you guys.

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It's the outfall, out to the bay from nearest to our home, and this is from before sanding.

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Does it show the bay in the picture?

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It looks like fingers toward the bay.

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Is the bay at high tide?

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The Bay is just about a lot of time.

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I mean, go to the other side of the beach.

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And this is expressed to you that this is how they fix it.

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And I told you that's how you fix the pipe like that.

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But you can't put it on top of the table.

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Connie, you just have to raise your house when you get all that work to it.

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Did you raise your house when you put diddle that work or was it already raised when you bought it?

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Did you raise your house when you did the work or was it already raised?

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No.

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No, it's just no just for the two but I think the water is coming from the Hill.

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There's very little.

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But it's up off the ground, right?

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You're doing it.

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You're doing it.

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Like if you rebuilt the houses there today, they all have to be up off the ground.

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00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,460
Yeah, I was really getting this.

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Miss Herren, do you have a club on the house before it gets tough?

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Miss Herren, is your club, is your house on grade?

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All I know is something, you know, I'm not doing this respect to you.

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I'm trying to show you the video of...

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Oh, I guess, and I have...

436
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Actually, I've never seen this before.

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00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,060
And I have videos of it not.

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Oh, well, you have the culvert, but the drain on my house,

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I got home in five minutes later.

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Did you reply to that again?

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Is your house raised or no?

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No, it didn't sit at the little point on the cliff.

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00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,540
Well, it's called Cliffwood,

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00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,840
but the only houses that are out on the cliff are on beach drive.

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It's the lowest point in all of Cliffwood.

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00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:50,580
The pumping station is three doors down, right?

447
00:32:50,580 --> 00:33:03,630
Yeah, but I mean the suit this with my point being is that the the pumping station isn't there by accident. That's the lowest point in all of Clifford Beach, right?

448
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been ankle deep in that water myself.

449
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Do you is your as your house been raised though to the?

450
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Oh, so your house is on still on grade?

451
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Because how high would you have to raise it if you rebuilt it?

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I mean, councilman Kelly

453
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lives like two or three doors down to the other, just redid her house and she had to raise it for flood.

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Okay. Is this the operative outfall?

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That

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is located in the street.

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This is in her backyard, okay, I'll

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have to get out of there and look at all this

459
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I'm not sure these are currently operating outfalls, but

460
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I don't know if that's actually moving the water.

461
00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:21,500
To shift some pumps.

462
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,320
Dwayne, is this was actually moving the water?

463
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:28,560
The old pipes, the old treasure lake, for example, there's some million pipes out there, but

464
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,680
the treasure lake outfall hasn't been abandoned by the county years ago.

465
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:33,760
I'm going to go out.

466
00:35:34,180 --> 00:35:34,500
Okay.

467
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:36,140
There's

468
00:35:46,420 --> 00:35:49,820
actually a sort of an air abuse in the woods.

469
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,680
I can show it to you.

470
00:35:51,020 --> 00:35:55,460
So the pipe from in front of my house who is supposed to support that over the connected

471
00:35:55,460 --> 00:35:57,440
to the outlet of paint that goes into.

472
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,160
What's that level of the air?

473
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,180
That's the level of the air water?

474
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,340
That's the level of the water at the current point but at the highest point is a potential

475
00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:06,460
wind to see where this color darker.

476
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,600
That's at the point, I guess, when the rain is at its full capacity, was there by the time I got there

477
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:18,180
water level at drop, but there's still a lot of distance in between there. I know it was

478
00:36:18,180 --> 00:36:22,640
at this zone, but that's the pole. That's the basin is located directly in front of our house

479
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,060
with the water flowing. Well, that's above the level of our basement. If you have a basement,

480
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:33,160
that's above the level. But the water level you're showing me there is like four inches from the

481
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,300
street level, six inches from the street level, which is, if you have any kind of basement,

482
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,420
is definitely above the level of her basement.

483
00:36:40,060 --> 00:36:42,660
So if the water is that level in the culvert,

484
00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:48,320
my basement is right at the speed level.

485
00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:49,260
They're sitting on the slide.

486
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,860
And she's being in the basement.

487
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:54,080
You're pulling the driveway and basically

488
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,360
you're facing there, they're basement.

489
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,400
All right, well, okay, so there's a cross-base.

490
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,240
No, it's an actual basement.

491
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:14,120
No, it's not underground at all and then the walls will put up with us from the block the point

492
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,080
So it's built straight on the grade

493
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,280
I mean it's not the lowest grade in the town

494
00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:27,860
All right, so when we have the engineers go out there, they're going to measure the grades when we resurface the road, right?

495
00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:37,100
So can we have the six stick of video camera down there and see where the pipes go and make sure they're not clogged or maybe yeah, that's right we have it now.

496
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:37,960
Can we do?

497
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:40,580
Figure out where it goes.

498
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:46,310
Okay.

499
00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:52,690
But how do we get the water out there then?

500
00:37:52,690 --> 00:37:58,290
If most into the doubtful way, as I explain, I'll look down as much as I could,

501
00:37:58,490 --> 00:38:04,130
and then you'll be able to take away this to go into the water to look down the actual cold pipe itself.

502
00:38:04,290 --> 00:38:04,570
Gotcha.

503
00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:08,410
This sort of cold purple pipe, I've picked you to space in the pipe of the water coming out.

504
00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:15,390
The longer cold the purple pipe, I believe is in disrepair because the water's not making it to the end.

505
00:38:15,590 --> 00:38:18,370
I have pictures of the water coming out of the lava of the pipe.

506
00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:20,670
I'm sure it's rusted through just up since it's in the back.

507
00:38:20,670 --> 00:38:24,750
I have to explain. I said, this is one of the challenges that you have to look at B.P.

508
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:26,370
I do not touch that pipe.

509
00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:30,870
And put any material into that water without being the approval.

510
00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:31,710
Okay.

511
00:38:31,890 --> 00:38:34,670
I thought I'd go out there and start trying to put concrete on it.

512
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:37,330
If B.P. sees me, that's enough.

513
00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:38,830
No, we wanted to work properly.

514
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,890
So what we're going to have to do is you can televised it.

515
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:46,350
We'll have the engineer figure out how you get the permits to dump the water properly into the bay.

516
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:48,650
And then we get the pipes properly dumped the water in the bay.

517
00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:55,410
No, I want to speak like for everyone.

518
00:38:55,850 --> 00:38:57,150
I was going to know what it is.

519
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:59,530
The issue needs to be resolved.

520
00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:17,280
So it can't backflow.

521
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,840
You're not even sure that's how, I mean, that's not how they do it anymore.

522
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,140
I mean one part of this exercise is going to be figuring out who owns what because once you get to the mean high tide line

523
00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:42,680
Township is I don't know who's infrastructure. It is, but it's not it's not ours once you get out there. Yeah, so

524
00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:45,640
Yeah, I mean look, I'm not gonna I'm not an engineer

525
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,860
I'm not gonna figure out how to get the water below the level of her slab

526
00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:49,740
but

527
00:39:55,050 --> 00:40:00,930
It's a backflow preventer. So with the water from the bang and her storm surge doesn't shoot up in through the street

528
00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:15,710
I'm sure that's why it doesn't trade right now. I've been there at high tide ankle deep in the water walking back to my car of the fishing pool.

529
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:20,810
So Mr. Mayor. I didn't investigate all the pipes though as you can see.

530
00:40:21,350 --> 00:40:29,770
Yeah, the only thing I was going to say is that you're correct. You know it has to be the engineer who needs to come out there and see what's going on.

531
00:40:29,770 --> 00:40:36,450
It's obviously not going to be salt here, but we did have some unprecedented rain, whereas

532
00:40:36,450 --> 00:40:40,970
many of us that are not necessarily in the flood areas had gotten flooded as well.

533
00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:48,710
So that not to minimize that situation, but we can't really take what has happened in

534
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:52,650
this whole month of July, August, I say normal thing.

535
00:40:52,770 --> 00:40:55,430
It's just been terrible for a lot of us.

536
00:41:00,550 --> 00:41:01,070
I

537
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,140
think it hasn't been on high tide, but

538
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,300
I think, yes.

539
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,980
No, the exit side is clearly in this repair.

540
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,520
And

541
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:30,410
so, yeah.

542
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:36,670
Oh, yeah.

543
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:41,250
There in Wayside are the only two flood hazard areas in the town, really.

544
00:41:42,270 --> 00:41:46,430
So, where you live, and then the back of Wayside Drive by Treasure Lake,

545
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:51,310
or they're the only flood hazard zones on the map in Clifford Beach.

546
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:56,990
Obviously, I mean, anyone who walks the sea well for the last 30 years could

547
00:41:56,990 --> 00:42:00,430
tell you that the outfall isn't this repair, the treasure leak out while it's

548
00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:04,410
a work. But, you know, that's what we're here to do. Look at stuff that's broken and

549
00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:10,110
try to fix it. I don't have the answer for you today because it involves water

550
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:15,390
levels. Like, it's basically, you know, I think if Dwayne showed me a water level

551
00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:17,910
that is very close if not above the grade of your house.

552
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:19,410
So, of course, you have water in your house,

553
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:20,870
whether it's straining out to the Bay or not.

554
00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:23,650
I don't know how that comes interacts with the tide

555
00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:27,410
is we've done it on the other side of the town

556
00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:29,630
by the beach, that's what we just did tonight.

557
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:31,610
We can't tell you how many studies we did

558
00:42:31,610 --> 00:42:34,290
to rebuild a hybrid living shoreline project,

559
00:42:35,230 --> 00:42:37,850
but like an assistant, it's not an unsolvable problem,

560
00:42:39,610 --> 00:42:41,510
but since we're not going to solve this tomorrow,

561
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:42,910
though, that's a pretty significant one.

562
00:42:43,330 --> 00:42:44,410
See how long it took us on the beach.

563
00:42:44,410 --> 00:42:45,370
What?

564
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:49,990
I'm with it. You're welcome.

565
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:55,940
Any real 70 engineering issues we can solve?

566
00:42:56,060 --> 00:43:00,520
Supposed to academics to do anything to write for us.

567
00:43:07,170 --> 00:43:10,690
The less mean, I'm sorry, Mary Jane Merkovich beach drive.

568
00:43:11,830 --> 00:43:15,190
The less meaning I had asked, somebody had been around

569
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:19,810
all of these storm drains and they numbered them down by us.

570
00:43:19,810 --> 00:43:24,550
And at that time, nobody really knew why they were doing it.

571
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:28,710
Do you have any more information about that?

572
00:43:29,050 --> 00:43:30,750
No, I didn't hear it with the engineer.

573
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:31,570
Oh, he does.

574
00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:33,130
Sorry.

575
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,400
We have checked the condition and quality of the stone drain to see what we need to do.

576
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,100
I think he lived in other than being proud about the parking lot.

577
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:50,700
I do.

578
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:53,420
That one, by the way, wasn't numbered.

579
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,800
No, because I already told the engineer that I need to be aware.

580
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:03,760
I was going to be lifted, also spoke to the other homeowner who lives, I think it was

581
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:11,380
how he actually has his brain, which is okay, punched into, he just don't bring, he didn't

582
00:44:11,380 --> 00:44:15,480
notify me at the fighting dinner, it's what the downstairs fight about, because I was trying

583
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,960
to go around and talk to people in the area, but it's going to be active in person.

584
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,020
So, just don't bring, it will be a threat that's not, but that's why I came to

585
00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:23,500
Okay.

586
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:23,720
Okay.

587
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:24,840
Yeah.

588
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,480
I was just wondering.

589
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:29,200
No, not problem.

590
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:29,820
Not problem.

591
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,260
Twin.

592
00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:30,720
Can I try?

593
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,360
So look, Ms. Herring just raised the issue of really redoing like all the outfalls along quarter

594
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:38,980
of the beach, right?

595
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:40,500
We're just going to take us a while to do it.

596
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,060
You said you had, I think French at French trains and stuff like that.

597
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,420
Well, is there some mitigating, right?

598
00:44:50,420 --> 00:44:54,080
like it's going to take us a while to get the water off of flood hazard area if ever, right?

599
00:44:54,860 --> 00:44:59,960
So, is there some sort of mitigating, like, for example, my house, I have a sun pump, I have a

600
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:14,480
Live on, right? But I'll let a lot of people have them punched into our drains. Is there something we can do when we have this road open that if she wanted to spend a few bucks on a pump or something to make sure it doesn't happen, right? We could help her and then connect it in while it's open while you're doing that?

601
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:33,670
Okay. So Miss Heron, I mean, you know, look, I'm not. It's going to take us years to figure out the outfalls and you have a water problem now. So if there, if you want to get a contract or anyone to come before you spend $4,000 to redo it again.

602
00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:38,030
If you want, you can spend 1,500 to put a sum pump on the front corner, whatever some

603
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:42,090
professional tells you would help you, and we can accommodate it to get it to the pipe

604
00:45:42,090 --> 00:45:43,110
and jet it out.

605
00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:43,750
And you know what I mean?

606
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:44,150
We can help.

607
00:45:44,650 --> 00:45:48,950
If we connect the two water levels together, then we know that, right, if it overflows everyone,

608
00:45:48,990 --> 00:45:50,470
it is what it is when we're all in trouble.

609
00:45:50,910 --> 00:45:56,770
But if yours is connected to ours, then we can, then it's engineering-wise, we can try

610
00:45:56,770 --> 00:45:58,450
to keep the water at your house in the meantime.

611
00:45:58,890 --> 00:45:59,350
That's what I do.

612
00:45:59,950 --> 00:46:00,430
That's what I know.

613
00:46:00,610 --> 00:46:01,410
That's what you do at your house.

614
00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:02,110
Because you're, yeah.

615
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:13,270
Okay,

616
00:46:19,540 --> 00:46:21,160
okay, yeah,

617
00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:29,750
I mean you can go down and see the signs where the water was when

618
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:34,510
it was a real storm, you know, we're not going to stop a hurricane.

619
00:46:34,770 --> 00:46:40,370
But the nuisance, you just grab nuisance flooding, which, you know, if there's some measure

620
00:46:40,850 --> 00:46:45,310
that you can, you know, contract or you, or you know, you seem to clearly be well versed

621
00:46:45,310 --> 00:46:49,650
in this, then we'll happily cooperate with you to tie in to tie the water levels together

622
00:46:49,650 --> 00:46:52,710
and keep it out of your slab until we figure out how to get it out in the bank.

623
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:57,830
So, anyway, if you've got, obviously even down there and met half the neighbors already.

624
00:46:58,290 --> 00:46:58,650
So,

625
00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:03,770
okay.

626
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,020
We just did that up and down short concourse too, I think.

627
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,640
Although the engineer kind of coordinates that.

628
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:14,860
We can figure that out.

629
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Point being is like, we can figure out a mitigation in the meantime.

630
00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:19,760
Keep the nuisance flooding out.

631
00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:21,980
And before, until we get the water off the whole block.

632
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,260
Okay, thank you.

633
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:24,680
Okay.

634
00:47:25,140 --> 00:47:26,960
Sorry, Mr. McGregor, I just need to stay your time.

635
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:29,820
Yeah?

636
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:31,520
If there's something you want to...

637
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,180
Well, I was having a problem with letting too, actually.

638
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,400
I just put in an additional drain, which...

639
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,260
You had a house right at the end next to the conversation.

640
00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:40,820
Yeah.

641
00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:45,840
So I just wanted to make sure that what you're doing is not going to make us worse.

642
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Well, I haven't talked to you about that, but I was coming back home late.

643
00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:51,560
We'll talk after the meeting.

644
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,700
We'll talk about your fight.

645
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Okay.

646
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:53,800
Thank you.

647
00:47:53,800 --> 00:48:02,140
Thank you. I appreciate that. And just this is just a kind of a thank you. I went to the senior event for the

648
00:48:03,220 --> 00:48:12,860
the tax and excuse me anchor and that whole thing and obviously a lot more people attended than

649
00:48:12,860 --> 00:48:18,780
when you then left here and what you expected. But I have to thank you because you were aware that

650
00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:24,700
A lot of people waited a long time and you went and you got pizza and in different kinds of things

651
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:29,440
I had a feeling people might have had the early bird special in their minds when they showed up and didn't know it was a three-hour away

652
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,060
Yeah, right. No, it was it was but anyway, but I want to thank you because that was very nice of you

653
00:48:34,060 --> 00:48:37,660
No problem. I hope you got taken care of and we can cut them in half good

654
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:42,310
Any anybody else?

655
00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:50,790
I'll take a motion to close the hearing of the citizens. I'll make that motion and a second. I'll second all in favor

656
00:48:52,530 --> 00:49:01,190
And at this point, I will turn to our attorney to read our executive session resolution regarding if we're going to discuss our affordable housing litigation this evening and executive session.

657
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:02,190
Thank you, Mayor.

658
00:49:03,090 --> 00:49:10,790
Whereas the Open Public Meeting Act, PL 1975, Chapter 231, permits the exclusion of the public from a meeting in certain circumstances.

659
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:15,610
And whereas this public body is of the opinion that such circumstances presently exist.

660
00:49:15,610 --> 00:49:19,870
And whereas the governing body wishes to discuss matters of confidential and

661
00:49:19,870 --> 00:49:24,210
privileged nature concerning litigation involving affordable housing related issues.

662
00:49:24,690 --> 00:49:28,130
Minutes will be kept and what's the matter involving such confidentiality.

663
00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:32,270
No longer requires that confidentiality, then the minutes shall be able to be made public.

664
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:37,150
We ask for resolution if the public can be excluded from this executive session.

665
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,060
Thank you.

666
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,920
Take a motion to your executive session resolution.

667
00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:46,480
I make a motion.

668
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:47,860
Is there a second?

669
00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:50,560
Second, Madam Clerk, roll call please.

670
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:57,200
Councilor Mondeau.

671
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,660
We can't do it all more, so I'm sorry.

672
00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:02,240
Sorry, Councilor Mondeau.

673
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,220
Yes.

674
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,340
Councilor Mondeau.

675
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,720
Yes, Councilor Mondeau.

676
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:06,480
Yes.

677
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:07,320
Deputy Mayor Hersch.

678
00:50:07,580 --> 00:50:07,760
Yes.

679
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,360
Mayor Cannon.

680
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:08,900
Yes.

681
00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:14,000
For the public's benefit, this executive session will take approximately 30 minutes.

682
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:18,040
It will start five minutes from now so that I can join the Council for a picture on a

683
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,560
victorious vote before it gets dark.

684
00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:21,380
Thank you very much.

685
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:24,920
And we will have no action after the executive session will simply adjourn the meeting.

686
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,780
No action to be taken.

687
00:50:26,060 --> 00:50:26,380
Thank you.

688
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,020
Correction, we're going to do the executive session first in the picture second.

689
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:37,660
Thank you.

690
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:57,120
Stand by, sir.

691
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:57,280
Stand by, sir.

692
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:57,720
All good to go.

693
00:50:58,540 --> 00:50:59,260
Thank you, guys.

694
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,320
This is a little bit hard.

695
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:04,820
Chief, I was late, so I didn't get to the floor.

696
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:05,680
It's just a second.