[5:14] left.
[5:20] » Let me get let Chad sit down there.
[5:25] » Well, that wasn't the plan, but I miss
y'all too much.
[5:29] » Welcome to the Town of Abington,
Virginia Planning Commission regular
[5:32] meeting. We appreciate your interest and
we encourage public participation in our
[5:37] meeting. Your comments are important to
our decision-making process. Please note
[5:42] that there will be two opportunities
during the meeting for you to address
[5:46] commission members. The first will come
when I ask for public comment for items
[5:52] not on the agenda. The second will come
if there is a public hearing once the
[5:56] chair declares the hearing open for
comment. In each case, anyone addressing
[6:03] the commission shall approach the
podium, give your first and last name,
[6:07] and your complete physical address.
Comments must be limited to three
[6:11] minutes. Roll call.
>> Mr. Austin,
[6:15] » present.
>> Mr. Johnson,
[6:18] » present.
>> Mr. Thompson,
[6:20] » present.
>> Mr. Pennington,
[6:21] » I made it.
>> Present. Sorry.
[6:25] » Mr. Sprouls,
>> present.
[6:27] » Mr. Wilson,
>> present.
[6:28] » Mr. Schuman,
>> present. All right. Uh the next order
[6:32] business is approval of the minutes for
the July 28th, 2025 regular meeting. Are
[6:38] there any additions or corrections to
the minutes?
[6:42] If if not, is there a motion that they
approved be approved as submitted?
[6:48] » Some moved.
>> All right. Is there a second?
[6:50] » Second.
>> All right. Any additional discussion? If
[6:53] not, if you would call the role.
>> Mr. Austin.
[6:56] » I.
>> Mr. Johnson?
[6:57] » I.
>> Mr. Thompson. Hi,
[7:00] » Mr. Pennington.
>> I
[7:01] » Mr. Sprouls.
>> Hi,
[7:02] » Mr. Wilson.
>> Hi.
[7:04] » And Mr. Schuman.
>> Hi.
[7:06] » Next order of business is public comment
for items not on the agenda. Is there
[7:10] anybody signed up to make public
comment? Is there anybody in the
[7:14] audience who would want to make public
comment?
[7:17] All right. If not, we'll move on to the
first certificate of appropriateness. Um
[7:23] and uh Gabe, do you want to mention what
we're the fact that Jerry SCs cannot be
[7:29] here tonight?
>> Sure.
[7:30] » Um and
>> yeah, so uh the applicants did plan on
[7:34] being here, but some medical issues came
up and so talking with county, we felt
[7:38] that these were still pretty
straightforward applications. So
[7:41] obviously at the board's discretion, the
commission's discretion, but uh we felt
[7:45] that, you know, a motion could possibly
be made unless you guys have some other
[7:49] additional questions. Uh but yeah, we'll
kind of go from there and see what you
[7:52] guys what's the pleasure of the
commission.
[7:54] » It appeared to that these
>> potential certificates are pretty much
[7:59] cut and dried. If for some reason there
is a disagreement, we can to table it,
[8:04] but otherwise it doesn't appear to me
that it would be appropriate to delay
[8:08] for no particular reason. So anyway, the
first certificate of appropriateness,
[8:12] Jerry Suns, applicant Jesse L. Owens and
Charles O. bird owner certificate of
[8:19] appropriateness for non-illuminated
projecting and window signage located at
[8:23] 252 West Main Street, Abington, Virginia
24210
[8:28] parentheses parcel 012-1-131
[8:33] in parenthesis staff report.
>> Yes. All things custom applicant Jesse
[8:38] L. Owens and Charles O. Bird owners and
Jerry Signs Incorporated representative
[8:43] have requested approval of a certificate
appropus for non-elilluminated
[8:47] projecting and window signage located at
252 West Main Street. Uh this property
[8:52] is located in our central business
district B3.
[8:56] Um background uh all things custom
currently occupies 252 West Main Street,
[9:03] suite 1.
[9:07] Staff findings. The applicant proposes
to install a three foot by three foot
[9:11] non-illuminated double-sided CNC carved
HDU projecting sign attached to the
[9:17] primary north elevation using a painted
black steel brackets as shown in the
[9:21] rendering provided. So here's the
primary facade.
[9:26] Here's what the uh sign would look like
and it would be placed approximately
[9:31] here between the second and first
stories. It's similar to other kind of
[9:35] projecting sign styles that we have in
the entrance corridor. Um,
[9:41] next, the applicant proposes to remove
the existing pink vinyl graphics applied
[9:45] to the primary north elevation uh
prefinished black aluminum frame
[9:49] commercial window and install a 36
square ft teal vinyl graphics with a 1
[9:55] and 1/2 in thick teal vinyl graphics
border as shown in the ren provided. So
[9:59] again, it's the same size, just the
border is the new piece, but they're
[10:03] just looking to remove the pink vinyl
that's here, and replace it with a teal
[10:09] one that matches the color scheme of
their proposed projecting sign and
[10:12] centering it more on this window here.
So, kind of bringing everything a little
[10:17] bit more into uh cohesion in terms of
the design.
[10:24] And that's all I have for you. So again,
here's the primary elevation. The
[10:29] proposed projecting sign will go
approximately here
[10:33] in this area. And then the next one is
again that window signage, removing the
[10:38] pink one, putting the same size, and
then just centering it and putting a
[10:42] border around it. If you have any
questions for me, I can answer them. If
[10:46] not,
>> anybody on the commission have any
[10:48] questions for Gabe?
[10:54] If
>> I was like
[10:58] it's just going to be the letters,
right? And the box.
[11:01] » Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me Sorry. Let me
>> It's not like they're putting a board up
[11:05] there like it looks like that.
>> No. So, imagine the black is the window.
[11:08] So, it's just the blue and everything.
So, this is just a negative. Yeah. Yeah.
[11:12] No, that's the same question I had when
I first got the rendering. I said,
[11:15] "You're not putting a full black back uh
background on, right?" They go, "No,
[11:19] that's just a negative." So, it'll just
be the blue that you see here.
[11:23] » Okay. Thank you.
>> Yep.
[11:25] » Additional questions.
[11:29] » What's the pleasure of the commission?
Is there a motion?
[11:36] » Yeah, I'd make a motion we accept the
application submitted.
[11:40] » Okay. Is there a second?
>> Second.
[11:42] » All right. Additional discussion?
If not, if you would call the role.
[11:48] » Mr. Austin,
>> I.
[11:49] » Mr. Johnson,
>> I.
[11:51] » Mr. Thompson.
>> Hi,
[11:52] » Mr. Mr. Pennington.
>> Hi,
[11:54] » Mr. Sprouls.
>> Hi,
[11:55] » Mr. Wilson.
>> Hi.
[11:56] » And Mr. Schuman.
>> Hi.
[11:59] » Next order of business is certificate of
appropriateness, Jerry Signs, Inc.
[12:04] applicant, Johnson Center, Inc. owner,
certificate of appropriateness for
[12:10] internally illuminated freestanding
signage located at 480 East Main Street,
[12:15] Abington, Virginia, 24210.
parenthesis parcel014-6-1
[12:20] [Music]
in parenthesis
[12:24] staff report
>> Liberty Tax applicant Johnson Center
[12:28] Incorporated owner and Jerry Signs
Incorporated representative have
[12:33] requested approval of a certificate of
purpose for internally illuminated
[12:36] freestanding signage located at 480 East
Main Street. The property is located
[12:41] within a general business district B2.
[12:46] Uh, some background. Parcel014-6-1
is known as the Johnson Center and
[12:52] contains multiple businesses. You've
seen many signs in this past couple
[12:56] weeks come for different businesses that
are located on that same parcel.
[13:03] Uh, staff findings. Dapkin proposes to
install a uh two install two 6 ft x 5 ft
[13:09] 30 square ft internally illuminated
acrylic with applied vinyl graphics
[13:14] panel set within the existing painted
blue steel cabinet as shown in the
[13:18] rendering provided. The existing painted
black iron post uh from which the
[13:22] painted blue steel cabinet is hung will
remain unchanged. So again, here's the
[13:27] view of the primary elevation of the
building and here's the existing um
[13:32] freestanding sign and cabinet. Uh it has
the existing business's uh sign in
[13:37] there, but that will be removed
obviously.
[13:40] Again, existing sign on its own. This is
what it will look like. So really, it's
[13:44] just switching out the faces. Nothing
else is changing.
[13:49] » Questions for Gabe?
[13:55] That's the only sign that's being
presented, right? No other.
[13:57] » Yes, that's the only one. Yep. Yep. And
then they're allowed to have this right
[14:01] here. They don't need a permit. Just
they take it in and out as for business
[14:04] hours and everything. So that's the only
one that they're changing.
[14:13] What's the pleasure of the commission?
Is there a motion?
[14:16] » I'll make a motion to pro to approve as
presented.
[14:19] » All right. Is there a second?
>> I'll second.
[14:22] » Okay.
Any additional discussion? If not, Gabe,
[14:26] if you would call the role.
>> Mr. Austin,
[14:28] » I.
>> Mr. Johnson,
[14:30] » I.
>> Mr. Thompson.
[14:31] » I.
>> Mr. Pennington.
[14:33] » Hi.
>> Mr. Sprouls.
[14:34] » Hi.
>> Mr. Wilson.
[14:36] » Hi.
>> And Mr. Schuman.
[14:37] » Hi.
>> Next order of business, certificate of
[14:41] appropriateness. Freda Deusk, applicant
owner, certificate of appropriateness
[14:46] for exterior changes located at 270 West
Main Street, Abington, Virginia 24210.
[14:53] parenthesis parcel011-8-3
[14:57] in parenthesis staff report
debusk owner/applicant has requested
[15:04] approval of a certificate of purpose for
exterior changes to the primary north
[15:08] elevation of the building located at 270
and 272 west main street. Excuse me.
[15:14] It's located in our central business
district B3.
[15:20] Uh some background on the site itself.
According to Places and Time volume 2,
[15:24] written by Nancy C. King. Charles Fert,
a nephew of WW Hurt, acquired the
[15:29] property in 1906. A dwelling was located
on the property upon Charles F. Charles
[15:35] Furd's acquisition, but was damaged in
the 1914 fire and subsequently repaired.
[15:40] In 1935, the dwelling was removed and
the lot was subdivided. Lincoln Theaters
[15:45] Corporation of Marian, Virginia,
acquired three lots in 1939 and built
[15:48] the Zephr Theater. The Zephr Theater was
Evan's first modern movie theater,
[15:53] although moving pictures have been shown
for some years at the Opera House, now
[15:56] known as the Barter Theater, the Dixie
Theater, and Sawyer's West End Moving
[16:00] Pictures Theater. In the 1940s, a fire
damaged the interior and exterior of the
[16:05] building, but was repaired and opened to
the public. Uh, soon after the Zephr
[16:10] Theater closed, the circa 1963, and the
property was purchased by BF Dusk in
[16:14] 1967. The theater building was occupied
by Debusk furniture store and now serves
[16:19] as an antique store and a uh barber
shop.
[16:25] Uh staff findings. The applicant
proposes to undertake the following
[16:28] items. So as you see here, this is the
existing primary elevation of the
[16:33] building. Remove the existing painted
wooden sheathing from the north uh
[16:38] northern elevation. So you can see that
the paint is peeling off in various
[16:42] sections and the wood sheathing's seen
here.
[16:45] Repair the damaged CMU block wall with a
Portland based cement as needed. Uh
[16:50] paint a thicker border around 270 and
272 West Main Street using uh paint
[16:57] known by Black Bean as shown in the
rendering provided. Paint the area
[17:02] Woodland Stone within the thick border
painted black bean as shown in the
[17:06] rendering provided. Here's the rendering
that I'm speaking of.
[17:10] uh paint existing uh paint existing
painted green U-pel awning roof cladding
[17:17] uh black again as shown in the render
provided. So right here
[17:21] and then reattach the existing
red and white Zephr Antiques wall sign
[17:29] uh within
this section right here.
[17:36] Uh the only staff recommendation uh
because this will have to be an
[17:41] encroachment to actually get the wood
sheathing off and repair the block and
[17:44] everything is that staff is recommending
the encroachment period for the ECCOA
[17:49] request should not extend beyond 3 weeks
in total.
[17:54] So and I think I've been told by the
applicant that they might do this in
[17:58] phases. Phase one will be taking down
the sheathing and looking at it,
[18:02] assessing it what needs to be repaired.
the encroachment would be taken away and
[18:06] then put back once they're ready to
mobilize again and repair and paint. So
[18:10] like week and a half here, week and a
half there kind of thing. So again,
[18:15] here's the existing
and this is what they like to do uh
[18:22] moving forward.
Questions for Gabe?
[18:27] » They're just painting uh the sheathing,
right? So, they're going to take off the
[18:32] sheathing totally and then paint the
block. They're going to paint the block.
[18:35] Okay.
>> Uh but they need to repair the block
[18:38] because from historical research, this
building when it was a theater used to
[18:42] have uh steel panels on it that would be
reflective. And then after the panels
[18:48] got removed, some wood cladding got put
on. So, the block probably has some
[18:51] holes in it. Uh and so, uh before they
paint it, they want to repair any holes
[18:57] or any damage to the block that
occurred, uh from those previous
[19:01] claddings, and then they would just
paint it.
[19:06] » Okay. Additional questions?
Um the applicant, you're you're welcome
[19:12] to make a presentation if you want to,
but you you're not certainly not
[19:15] required to. Um
>> I think you did a great job.
[19:24] I just want just want to make sure you
knew that you had the opportunity.
[19:27] » I appreciate that. I just want to thank
[19:40] questions or discussion.
[19:44] Is there is there a motion?
[20:07] I'd make a motion that we approve the
change as presented.
[20:15] » Okay.
>> Appropriateness.
[20:18] » Is there a second?
>> I'll second.
[20:20] » Okay. Any additional discussion?
If not, if you would call the role.
[20:27] » Mr. Austin.
>> I.
[20:29] » Mr. Johnson?
>> I.
[20:30] » Mr. Thompson.
>> I.
[20:33] » Mr. Pennington.
>> I. Mr. Sprouls.
[20:36] » Hi,
>> Mr. Wilson.
[20:38] » Hi.
>> Mr. Schuman.
[20:39] » Hi.
>> And I think you wanted to have a
[20:43] discussion with um
about the facade improvement with
[20:47] Isaiah.
>> Yep. So, I have Isaiah Thomas here. So,
[20:50] this uh this ECCOA request is will also
be part of a facade grant program. So,
[20:57] just to give a review to the applicant
of what's required for that program, but
[21:01] also gives us the opportunity to hear
more about the facade grant program.
[21:04] whoever else would be interested in
updating their facade.
[21:08] » Absolutely. So, I think you guys have
seen quite a few of these over the
[21:11] years. Um the facade grant program is
something we do um to incentivize on our
[21:17] enterprise zone. That's a state zone
that we set. It's we're a main street
[21:21] town. Pretty much all of our business is
along Main Street. So, our entire main
[21:25] street corridor along with Common Street
is in what we call an enterprise zone
[21:29] and allows you to um get some grant or
they're actually reimbursements, but
[21:34] they call them a grant for either
capital improvement within that zone or
[21:38] for um job creation in that zone. In
order for us to offer that and get
[21:44] access to those funds, we have to have
some of our own incentives. And one of
[21:47] those is the facade grant. Previously,
we've changed it this year. previously
[21:51] was based upon square footage and they
had three brackets which was 2500 um
[21:56] 5,000 and 10,000 and then based upon
your square footage you could get up to
[22:01] those with certain amounts. We've
changed it this year and we just have
[22:05] two $10,000 grants and two $5,000 grants
um because that $2,500 really just
[22:11] doesn't go far in today's society. So um
the way that it works is it's a
[22:17] reimbursement. So, they cover the total
costs, keep the receipts, and then once
[22:22] the project's completed to the town's
liking and everything's been signed off
[22:26] on and all the permits are pulled like
they wanted them to, then we'll
[22:29] reimburse them for the amount. Um, and
it's a 50 50/50 matching grant. So, if
[22:35] you apply for the the $10,000 grant,
it's $20,000 in total improvement and
[22:40] they're covering 50%. Now, they can
obviously pay more than go over that if
[22:44] they want, but they have to at least
match their 50% match with us. Um the
[22:49] overall goal of this is to increase the
street scrape of Abington to you know we
[22:53] kind of target properties. We ask
everybody that probably would want to
[22:57] but there are some in that I go out and
try to recruit that are a little bit um
[23:02] in disrepair. And this one was one that
you know I reached out to Mr. us last
[23:06] year and just wasn't on the cards for it
last year, but she seems motivated to do
[23:10] it this year. And um not going to throw
off on on the building, but it could
[23:14] could use some some rubbing and some
massaging. Um I think a piece of that
[23:19] has actually fallen on the street before
some type of building. So um but yeah,
[23:22] the saw grant is uh I think it it does a
lot for our streetscape, especially in
[23:28] buildings that um deserve to look
uh like having looks. So, this is one of
[23:36] them. We're going to have a couple more
probably come before you that, uh, I
[23:40] think will help, especially in this
area. Um, the building right next to it,
[23:44] which is the optitians building that
they both came before last time, I think
[23:48] 10 years ago, was part of a Main Street
grant. Um, which was not a town thing.
[23:52] It was just a affiliate of the town. So,
we go again. But, yeah, that's the
[23:57] facade grant. Pretty clean. And, um,
we're happy to do it. And when they
[24:03] submit stuff to you, they have to keep
track of all their receipts. Correct.
[24:06] » Yep. So the the biggest thing on the
facade grants are is we want compliance.
[24:10] So we're not trying to sidestep anything
we would require otherwise. So um all
[24:15] building permits that might be required.
Any COAs um that would be required that
[24:19] have to go for. All our signage has to
be approved. Um one thing we did change
[24:25] recently is we used to uh continue to
charge for the permits they may need to
[24:30] get. we kind of started doing the pro if
you're part of a facade grant then you
[24:34] wave the permit fees and that's just
because it doesn't make sense for us to
[24:37] give them money then take it right back
in the permit fees we want as much as it
[24:40] to go to the improvement of the property
um so we do wave the fees if you apply
[24:44] for it um yeah that you know be in
compliance with all other rules and
[24:50] regulations the town has but
we like it and oh I forgot to talk what
[24:56] qualifies so any uh exterior
improvements qualify signage can also
[25:01] qualify. They can get their facade grant
for signage. That's actually why we
[25:04] bumped it up and got rid of that square
footage requirement because most um
[25:08] tenant spaces in town are 1,500 square
feet and less. So, it was like $2,500
[25:12] max, 5,000 total. And signage today is
what pretty much what signage goes for.
[25:17] It would max out the budget. We were
just getting signs and signs don't they
[25:21] look better when they're fixed, but the
overall facade of the building is what
[25:24] we were trying to aim it towards. So,
exterior of the building, facades, um,
[25:29] anything that has to do with landscaping
or streetscape. The only thing it won't
[25:33] really qualify for is we we're not going
to improve parking lots and we won't
[25:36] improve mechanical equipment. Um, just
not what it's intended for.
[25:41] » Yeah. You have any questions? I'd be
happy to answer.
[25:43] » Now, this is through the opasses of the
economic development authority. Is that
[25:47] correct?
>> Yeah. Well, um, so the economic dem
[25:50] partners the town. So, this comes out of
the town's budget. It's budgeted every
[25:53] year um in the general fund and goes to
the economic development department. The
[25:58] EDA has covered some facade grants. So,
in years past, there's been a couple
[26:02] years where we've had more applicants
than there was enough in the funds to do
[26:05] so, and we've partnered with EDA to
cover a couple of those. And then there
[26:09] have been some applicants that aren't in
that enterprise zone. They're outside of
[26:13] it, but still, you know, in the relative
scheme of things in town, you're you're
[26:17] pretty much still on Main Street. and
the EDA has been able to cover those
[26:20] even though it didn't qualify for our
footprint.
[26:25] » And again, just to
>> questions
[26:27] » clarify just because I think there were
some questions last time one came you
[26:30] the plan commission is the first step
they would go through to make sure that
[26:34] that project that they're applying to
Isaiah for is approved uh because like
[26:38] Isaiah mentioned they have to be in
compliance with or signage if they need
[26:41] a COA all that building all that kind of
stuff. So, just to kind of clarify that
[26:45] because I remember maybe two meetings
ago there was some question about that.
[26:49] But yeah,
>> any any questions for Isaiah?
[26:56] » Thank you.
>> Thank you guys. Thanks.
[27:02] » All right. Uh, next order of business is
old business matters not on the agenda.
[27:07] Excuse me. Discussion concerning
planning commission member comprehensive
[27:11] plan chapter selection.
So
[27:16] you guys have had some time to kind of
go through what chapters or chapter that
[27:22] you would like to kind of spearhead. Um
we can either kind of go down the line
[27:28] or whoever wants to kind of go first and
say you know what you would be
[27:31] interested in spearheading. Uh the next
step would probably be um once we've
[27:37] got, you know, at max two two board two
commission members to a chapter would be
[27:43] to uh schedule a time when that board or
whoever's kind of involved with that
[27:49] kind of section of that chapter. Uh to
have you guys go to one of their
[27:53] meetings just as an introductory kind of
start just to be like, hey, we're here
[27:57] just to listen to what you guys have
heard, what's needed, what could we
[28:00] improve upon in the comp plan. it's
better to probably start with the intro
[28:04] meeting than you guys just showing up to
one of their meets and going, "Hey,
[28:06] we're here now, but you know, this is
what we're going to do." So, just a way
[28:10] to form that bridge, form that
partnership that we I've seen in the
[28:14] comp plan. Some chapter some chapters
are welldeveloped, some are a little
[28:17] less. So it's again that might maybe
just been how things were coordinated
[28:22] before but our overall goal is to have
an updated comprehensive plan where
[28:26] every chapter's uh up to the standard
that Abidan deserves and so that we make
[28:31] sure that we plan for the next five
years adequately in all aspects.
[28:35] So
>> now do you have a list of volunteers for
[28:40] the different sections? I mean could
because I think can you share that with
[28:44] us or should we should you share it
before the next meeting or how do you
[28:48] want to do that?
>> So I was just going to go I've got a
[28:51] list here and I'm going to share the
list once we've assigned them tonight
[28:53] and everything. Uh but I know Kenny you
brought up introduction before. Um Mr.
[28:59] Wilson I know you gave me two last week.
I can't remember what they were but I
[29:03] think one
>> utilities and economic development.
[29:11] Mr. Thompson, you also I think said, did
you say tourism was one?
[29:15] » Economic development and tourism. Yeah.
[29:24] » I'm I'm pretty flexible. So, if you've
got a chapter that nobody volunteered
[29:29] for, I I'm happy to be assigned that.
>> Okay. I'll get I'll put you down for
[29:34] introduction first and we'll see what
else people want to do.
[29:39] Uh yes, Mr. Pennington, did you have any
in mind that you
[29:42] » No, I I'll be completely flexible in
terms of being able to fill in or
[29:48] again nothing that one way or the other.
I don't
[29:53] happy to be whatever is needed.
>> Okay. Mr. Scholes, you have anything
[29:57] » kind of the same sentiment. You can kind
of plug me in where
[30:00] » where as needed.
>> Okay.
[30:03] » Go over those again. Uh, so we've got
introduction, people, neighborhoods, and
[30:09] land use, transportation,
economic development has two people so
[30:13] far, so we're kind of at our max with
that. Parks, recreation, and open space.
[30:17] Um, given your experience on the HBO B,
there's arts, culture, and history.
[30:24] Uh, tourism,
environmental, and quality of life,
[30:28] public util, public utilities,
facilities, and services. And then
[30:32] depending on if we get more money or
something, we're we're thinking about
[30:36] maybe or kind of kicking around the idea
of like a downtown specific area,
[30:42] like a downtown specific chapter that we
would develop. So
[30:45] » to be honest with you, wherever you want
to plug me.
[30:48] » Okay.
Mr. Austin, do you have preference?
[30:53] » I have no pre Well, I did write down
parks.
[30:56] » Parks. Okay.
>> Excuse me. Parks.
[31:00] on that. Uh
>> you you said there's two. Is there
[31:02] enough? Like how many do we need to be
on? Do we need to be on two? Do we need
[31:06] to be on three? What do how many
>> you can be on? How many you want?
[31:09] » Because if you've got two to I mean how
many how many do you have in that list?
[31:13] And how many?
>> So I've got one, two,
[31:18] got 10.
>> And so the max we can have because then
[31:22] we have to publicize it is two is two
commission members. If it's three, then
[31:26] we have to publicize and we don't want
to have to do that.
[31:30] um or have that always be like a thing
where you're going to a meeting for EDA
[31:34] or the HBRV or whatever. You going to
have to post it every time. Um
[31:40] Mr. Johnson, is it okay if I put you on
the history arts and culture since
[31:43] you've been on the HBRV before? So, you
kind of have a lay of the land with
[31:46] that.
>> I'm I'm very cultural.
[31:48] » Okay.
[31:51] Let's
[31:54] see here.
>> Lisa would crack up.
[32:00] » Transportation. Uh,
>> that's fine. Absolutely. Yeah.
[32:15] » Mr. Sprouls, do you want to do
environmental quality of life? And
[32:19] again, you just be going to these
meetings more to the point of you going
[32:22] going to these meetings more just to
listen and hear what those staff or that
[32:28] specific board has seen what they what
we need and possibly and then relaying
[32:32] it back here and kind of being that
bridge to the planning commission. So if
[32:36] you're
>> and and each of these have regular
[32:39] schedule I mean we're talking
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[32:42] » Like Yeah. So the EDA is on a regular
schedule and so we wouldn't have you go
[32:46] to every meeting in a sense, but it'd be
like when we think it's appropriate, we
[32:49] would do kind of that schedule, that
first initial introduction. Then once we
[32:52] really get going into the updating, I
would be in contact with you or our firm
[32:57] that we hire and they would make sure
that everything's coordinated. So you
[33:01] guys would know well in advance, hey,
there's a meeting this day if you could
[33:05] attend just to be kind of that bridge in
here. And then every planning commission
[33:09] uh we would kind of go over like what's
been talked about at that meeting. So
[33:13] one month you know Mr. Thompson might
have something to say about uh tourism
[33:18] and then maybe the next month uh Mr.
Wilson might have something to say about
[33:23] u the public utilities and facilities.
So it won't be like every month
[33:26] everybody's saying something might be a
little bit different. So would you like
[33:30] me to put you down for environmental and
quality of life or is there another one
[33:33] that you maybe are thinking more about?
[33:43] probably do the parks and recre
>> Okay, so I've got Austin
[33:50] and SP
for parks and wreck.
[33:58] I still need one for people,
neighborhoods, and land use.
[34:02] » I don't mind doing that along with the
introduction.
[34:14] Okay.
[34:19] And then I just need one for
environmental and quality of life.
[34:22] That's the last one.
Wilson's already done two. Schuman's
[34:28] already done two. So, is there anybody
else that's really
[34:32] » I'll do I mean that's fine.
[34:44] Okay.
And then if we have if we end up getting
[34:47] more money for a downtown specific
version, I can reach out and then
[34:50] whoever's maybe interested in doing that
part can help on that one. So, uh,
[34:58] for the remaining ones, just to have a
backup to, I'll assign Mr. and I'll sign
[35:02] you another one if that's okay.
>> Yes, sir.
[35:04] » Do you have a preference on like what
kind of realm of
[35:07] » I had a complete list but the dog ate it
before I got
[35:11] » the dog at your
>> No, sir. It doesn't matter. Whatever's
[35:14] convenient.
>> Okay. Uh Mr. Thompson, I think you've
[35:17] given me two. So, you're set.
>> Uh Mr. Johnson, I'll look for one more
[35:22] unless
>> land use.
[35:23] » Land land use. Okay.
[35:31] Okay. And then
Mr. Scroll, same thing. I'll look for
[35:37] » uh Yeah. Uh let me see. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Chad's on that one. So I can put
[35:41] you on that one.
[35:51] » Mr. Austin, how would you feel about um
public utilities facilities and
[35:55] services? How would you feel?
[36:08] I
>> think we're all set for right now.
[36:11] » You You want to when we do the agenda
for the next meeting, you want to share
[36:15] all that? So,
>> yes. Yeah. I'll also be sending out an
[36:18] email just like with the list and just
saying who's with what. So, this way
[36:22] you've got a reference as well.
>> Yeah, that'd be great.
[36:24] » Yep. So, I'll send an email out uh
tomorrow and we'll just have this list
[36:27] and who's assigned to what and then um
our next step is to well for me to draft
[36:34] the RFP to get our firm. Again, we're
not looking to do a full rewrite because
[36:38] we have a good base. It's just more of
an update because times change, projects
[36:42] change, our focus changes and then um
drafting the RFP, get a firm to update
[36:48] it and run the public meetings and
everything. And then uh but your guys's
[36:53] next step would be which I would which I
will coordinate will be with just
[36:56] meeting with those boards or the staff
and just as a more of an introductory
[36:59] piece just to say hey we're going to be
in some meetings with you. Uh we're just
[37:03] really here to listen and be a bridge to
the plan commission as we go ahead and
[37:07] update our our chapters because this way
each chapter is up to the standard that
[37:12] it should be and that uh we're ready for
the next five years.
[37:16] So,
uh, that's all I've got, uh, for you.
[37:20] Aside from there is one COA waiver. Um,
they've already gotten building permits.
[37:25] It's for a, uh, a building that had a
cargo through it. Um,
[37:29] » that's a disgruntled client
with Philip Pearl.
[37:33] » Yep.
>> So, that's that's the reason why the
[37:37] plywood's up and everything. So, they're
working on it. Uh, they've pulled
[37:41] » Was that just one car hit that?
>> Yeah.
[37:46] man actually took it. Hit it hard.
>> Yeah. So, but other than that, it was
[37:51] just that one waiver and then picking
out these chapters. And so, uh that's
[37:55] all I have for you. If you have any
questions for me, more than happy to
[37:58] answer. If not.
>> Questions for Gabe?
[38:01] If not, is there a motion to adjurnn?
>> So, moved.
[38:05] » Is there a second?
>> Second.
[38:07] » All those in favor signify by saying I.
I.
[38:10] » Any opposed? We're adjourned.