1 00:00:01,555 --> 00:00:02,045 Good evening. 2 00:00:02,145 --> 00:00:03,645 I'd like to call this meeting to order. 3 00:00:04,145 --> 00:00:07,005 Uh, please join me to, for the Pledge of Allegiance, 4 00:00:10,425 --> 00:00:12,485 Pledge of Alle Allegiance to the black 5 00:00:12,905 --> 00:00:14,325 of the United States of America, 6 00:00:14,865 --> 00:00:17,285 and to the republic for which it stands, 7 00:00:17,745 --> 00:00:20,765 one Nation under God, indivisible, 8 00:00:20,955 --> 00:00:22,605 with liberty and justice for. 9 00:00:27,225 --> 00:00:29,325 All right. Are there any changes to the agenda? 10 00:00:30,305 --> 00:00:32,685 Uh, staff recommends no changes to the agenda. 11 00:00:33,145 --> 00:00:35,805 Is there a motion to approve the agenda? So moved. 12 00:00:36,145 --> 00:00:37,145 Is there a second? 13 00:00:38,465 --> 00:00:41,405 Second. And Ms. Wong, do you support the motion? 14 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:45,045 I do. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. 15 00:00:45,225 --> 00:00:47,885 All those opposed. Motion passes. Five zero. 16 00:00:51,835 --> 00:00:54,205 Okay. Moving on to item number two, 17 00:00:54,505 --> 00:00:58,685 public hearing. Is it okay if we start? 18 00:00:59,085 --> 00:01:01,485 I think it's okay. 'cause much of it is introduction. 19 00:01:01,795 --> 00:01:03,045 Okay. I'll speak slowly. 20 00:01:05,225 --> 00:01:07,885 The governing board will convene a second public hearing 21 00:01:08,065 --> 00:01:10,525 to receive public testimony concerning, 22 00:01:10,695 --> 00:01:12,045 concerning the composition 23 00:01:12,505 --> 00:01:15,245 of potential trustee voting areas associated 24 00:01:15,365 --> 00:01:17,045 with the district's transition to 25 00:01:17,225 --> 00:01:18,925 by trustee area election system. 26 00:01:19,675 --> 00:01:21,885 This hearing is in advance of the preparation 27 00:01:21,885 --> 00:01:24,005 of draft trustee voting area plans 28 00:01:24,225 --> 00:01:27,685 or maps by the district's demographer under California 29 00:01:27,965 --> 00:01:31,045 elections code section ten one zero zero one zero. 30 00:01:31,545 --> 00:01:34,445 The board must hold at least two public hearings over a 31 00:01:34,445 --> 00:01:37,725 period of no more than 30 days at which the public is 32 00:01:37,725 --> 00:01:40,725 invited to provide input regarding the composition 33 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:43,045 of potential trustee voting areas 34 00:01:43,265 --> 00:01:46,685 before the district's demographer draws draft maps 35 00:01:46,685 --> 00:01:49,245 of the proposed trustee boundaries of the district 36 00:01:50,025 --> 00:01:51,325 as part of the public hearing. 37 00:01:51,475 --> 00:01:54,205 Members of the public may submit comments on the 38 00:01:54,205 --> 00:01:56,685 establishment of the voting area, boundaries 39 00:01:56,705 --> 00:01:59,565 for the new trustee voting areas that will be established 40 00:01:59,625 --> 00:02:02,685 as part of the district's transition from an at large 41 00:02:03,005 --> 00:02:05,165 election system to a by trustee area. 42 00:02:05,645 --> 00:02:09,835 Election system. Uh, speakers will be given three minutes 43 00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:12,075 to make comments on this matter 44 00:02:12,175 --> 00:02:13,195 and this matter only 45 00:02:13,815 --> 00:02:15,915 to address the board in this public hearing. 46 00:02:16,515 --> 00:02:19,275 Complete a addressed, uh, request 47 00:02:19,275 --> 00:02:22,235 to address the Alani Union High School District governing 48 00:02:22,235 --> 00:02:25,435 board card and submit it to the secretary of the Board 49 00:02:25,455 --> 00:02:28,075 before we begin to the public comment, 50 00:02:28,125 --> 00:02:30,515 which will be following a presentation 51 00:02:30,655 --> 00:02:32,235 by the district's legal counsel 52 00:02:32,375 --> 00:02:36,675 and demographer, we will now convene a public hearing. 53 00:02:37,375 --> 00:02:38,475 The public hearing is open. 54 00:02:42,665 --> 00:02:46,515 Okay. So, um, as President Chen mentioned, 55 00:02:46,515 --> 00:02:48,435 this is our second public hearing 56 00:02:48,895 --> 00:02:52,915 and, uh, for this, uh, meeting, both our 57 00:02:53,565 --> 00:02:57,275 legal counsel as well as the demographer will be, uh, 58 00:02:57,715 --> 00:02:58,715 participating by Zoom. 59 00:02:59,505 --> 00:03:02,805 And so I'm going to move that over. 60 00:03:03,985 --> 00:03:08,325 And, uh, I would like to introduce our 61 00:03:08,845 --> 00:03:12,485 attorney, Jonathan Salt of F three Law Firm, 62 00:03:13,145 --> 00:03:16,925 and he is joined by the demographer David Lopez 63 00:03:17,345 --> 00:03:21,125 of Western Schools Strategic Consulting, uh, 64 00:03:21,325 --> 00:03:22,405 WSSC. 65 00:03:22,945 --> 00:03:26,645 And so the two of them will take us through a, uh, 66 00:03:26,645 --> 00:03:28,925 presentation and, um, 67 00:03:29,265 --> 00:03:31,685 and are certainly available to answer questions. 68 00:03:32,225 --> 00:03:33,605 So, Jonathan, it's all yours. 69 00:03:34,465 --> 00:03:36,245 Thanks, John. Can you hear me okay? 70 00:03:36,945 --> 00:03:38,245 Yes. Perfect. 71 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:40,965 Um, good evening, district board members 72 00:03:41,025 --> 00:03:42,485 of the staff and community. 73 00:03:42,825 --> 00:03:44,925 I'm Jonathan Salt with Ethically Law, joined 74 00:03:44,945 --> 00:03:47,205 by our demographer, uh, David Lopez. 75 00:03:47,665 --> 00:03:50,125 Um, this is our second pre-AP public hearing. 76 00:03:50,585 --> 00:03:52,005 Um, the next time you see David 77 00:03:52,105 --> 00:03:55,205 or I, they'll have been MAs, uh, created by David 78 00:03:55,265 --> 00:03:57,645 and posted online, um, for review. 79 00:03:57,745 --> 00:04:00,085 So, uh, we're moving along here through the process. 80 00:04:00,425 --> 00:04:02,845 Um, uh, a bit of background to kind 81 00:04:02,845 --> 00:04:04,045 of help lead the public hearing. 82 00:04:04,545 --> 00:04:09,365 Um, why 83 00:04:09,365 --> 00:04:10,565 is this transition happening? 84 00:04:10,785 --> 00:04:13,365 Um, so the California Voting Rights Act, 85 00:04:13,425 --> 00:04:15,245 or CBRA says 86 00:04:15,245 --> 00:04:18,285 that if you have at large elections like the district does, 87 00:04:18,865 --> 00:04:22,605 and that those elections potentially impair the ability 88 00:04:22,785 --> 00:04:25,925 of protected classes from electing candidates of choice, 89 00:04:26,465 --> 00:04:29,165 or, um, having the ability to influence the outcome 90 00:04:29,165 --> 00:04:33,485 of an election, that at large system might violate CVRA, 91 00:04:34,425 --> 00:04:36,085 um, a protected class just 92 00:04:36,245 --> 00:04:39,325 'cause it's in the definition of CVRA is a class of voters 93 00:04:39,425 --> 00:04:41,085 who are members of a race, color, 94 00:04:41,145 --> 00:04:42,445 or language minority group. 95 00:04:43,585 --> 00:04:45,125 Um, another thing that is 96 00:04:46,165 --> 00:04:48,765 commonly discussed in CVRA is racially polarized voting, 97 00:04:48,875 --> 00:04:53,405 essentially, when a, um, group of voters in the district 98 00:04:53,505 --> 00:04:57,125 of a protected class tends to prefer, uh, one candidate, um, 99 00:04:57,145 --> 00:04:59,485 but the rest of the electorate tends to prefer another 100 00:04:59,485 --> 00:05:01,005 that's racially polarized voting. 101 00:05:01,785 --> 00:05:04,725 Um, the reason CVRA is popping up here 102 00:05:04,725 --> 00:05:05,805 and around the state is 103 00:05:05,805 --> 00:05:07,645 because unlike the Federal Voter Rights Act, 104 00:05:08,025 --> 00:05:09,405 intent is not required. 105 00:05:09,625 --> 00:05:11,725 So the district or a city 106 00:05:11,905 --> 00:05:14,765 or a water district, by having at large elections, 107 00:05:15,185 --> 00:05:19,525 it need not intend, um, to, you know, 108 00:05:19,525 --> 00:05:22,605 be potentially discriminating against protected classes in 109 00:05:22,605 --> 00:05:24,285 order to be found in violation of the statute. 110 00:05:24,665 --> 00:05:27,245 So it's very easy for a prospective plaintiff 111 00:05:27,265 --> 00:05:29,445 to bring a claim against a public entity. 112 00:05:31,765 --> 00:05:33,695 Another reason why this is popping up is 113 00:05:33,695 --> 00:05:35,935 because when those claims are made, um, 114 00:05:36,075 --> 00:05:37,935 the prevailing plaintiff is entitled 115 00:05:37,955 --> 00:05:40,135 to recover attorney's fees and expert fees. 116 00:05:40,635 --> 00:05:42,815 But if a public entity, like a school district 117 00:05:42,815 --> 00:05:45,495 or a city were to successfully defend at large elections, 118 00:05:45,965 --> 00:05:47,575 then not afford that same, right. 119 00:05:48,435 --> 00:05:51,335 Um, so the only safe harbor to, uh, is 120 00:05:51,335 --> 00:05:54,615 to transition from at large to trustee area 121 00:05:54,875 --> 00:05:56,055 or by trustee area 122 00:05:56,115 --> 00:05:58,845 or district based, um, elections 123 00:05:59,255 --> 00:06:01,085 where the district will be divided here 124 00:06:01,085 --> 00:06:04,005 because you have five trustees into five roughly 125 00:06:04,135 --> 00:06:05,405 equal population areas. 126 00:06:06,145 --> 00:06:09,365 And, um, board members in the future will be elected, um, 127 00:06:09,745 --> 00:06:13,005 one per area only by the voters who live in that same area. 128 00:06:13,665 --> 00:06:15,965 And this doesn't impact anybody's current term. 129 00:06:16,305 --> 00:06:20,325 You'll all serve out the remaining, uh, one-ish 130 00:06:20,585 --> 00:06:23,405 or three-ish years of your current terms, uh, 131 00:06:23,425 --> 00:06:24,805 but prospectively, um, 132 00:06:25,035 --> 00:06:27,605 each trustee area will have an election on the 133 00:06:27,605 --> 00:06:28,645 same through two cycle. 134 00:06:29,465 --> 00:06:31,925 Um, so where we are now, the current step of our process 135 00:06:32,585 --> 00:06:35,285 is these two pre-AP public hearings, uh, 136 00:06:35,345 --> 00:06:36,965 to solicit feedback from the board 137 00:06:36,965 --> 00:06:40,685 and community about, um, potential trustee areas 138 00:06:40,865 --> 00:06:43,005 or the kinds of things that we should be thinking about 139 00:06:43,065 --> 00:06:45,885 as we draw the, the maps, which cannot be done until 140 00:06:45,885 --> 00:06:47,405 after this second public hearing. 141 00:06:48,145 --> 00:06:50,085 I'm gonna hand it off to David to talk a little bit about 142 00:06:50,085 --> 00:06:51,285 the district's demographics. 143 00:06:52,065 --> 00:06:56,765 We will work back through, um, kind of some more information 144 00:06:56,785 --> 00:06:59,685 and I'll also share with the board, uh, a few emails 145 00:06:59,685 --> 00:07:03,245 that the district received on its, um, CVRA email address 146 00:07:03,385 --> 00:07:05,525 and kind of summarize the input received to date. 147 00:07:05,655 --> 00:07:06,655 David. 148 00:07:07,335 --> 00:07:08,405 Great. Thank you, Jonathan. 149 00:07:08,785 --> 00:07:10,765 Uh, I assume everyone can hear me. Okay. 150 00:07:12,825 --> 00:07:15,525 So this table here again represents the 151 00:07:16,295 --> 00:07:18,645 population within the district that responded 152 00:07:18,645 --> 00:07:19,725 to the 2020 census. 153 00:07:20,425 --> 00:07:22,965 And as you can see within the district's boundaries, a total 154 00:07:22,985 --> 00:07:26,765 of 119,039 people responded, 155 00:07:26,765 --> 00:07:30,285 that'll be the total population that we first 156 00:07:30,305 --> 00:07:33,925 and foremost have to use as we create five trustee areas 157 00:07:34,555 --> 00:07:39,085 with each being, um, roughly equal in size to that. 158 00:07:39,265 --> 00:07:42,165 So, uh, you take that number divided by five, 159 00:07:42,625 --> 00:07:44,205 and you can have a slight variation, 160 00:07:44,205 --> 00:07:47,045 which counsel can tell you in more detail up to 10% 161 00:07:47,715 --> 00:07:48,725 from one to another. 162 00:07:49,305 --> 00:07:51,445 But this is the primary basis 163 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:53,925 for creating them based on population. 164 00:07:54,385 --> 00:07:55,725 The table. Uh, the column 165 00:07:55,745 --> 00:07:58,565 to the right age 18 plus doesn't have a bearing on this 166 00:07:58,565 --> 00:08:01,245 process, but we, we include as just kind 167 00:08:01,245 --> 00:08:02,445 of an informative slide. 168 00:08:02,865 --> 00:08:04,245 So the key takeaway is 169 00:08:04,245 --> 00:08:06,245 that everything within your boundaries that we're using 170 00:08:06,305 --> 00:08:08,805 as a number from the 2020 census has to do 171 00:08:08,805 --> 00:08:10,565 with 119,000 people. 172 00:08:14,585 --> 00:08:16,725 And so with that, you know, there's going to, 173 00:08:16,725 --> 00:08:20,245 each area's gonna have about 23,800 people. 174 00:08:20,745 --> 00:08:23,045 Um, you know, with a variance of a kind of a gap 175 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:26,085 that's allowed of a little shy of 2,400 total. 176 00:08:26,225 --> 00:08:29,805 So you might have some areas maybe have 24,000 or, 177 00:08:29,825 --> 00:08:32,485 or 25,000, some with maybe 23, 22. 178 00:08:32,905 --> 00:08:33,925 It just sort of depends, 179 00:08:34,025 --> 00:08:37,165 but, um, it's very rarely gonna be perfectly accurate. 180 00:08:37,585 --> 00:08:39,045 Um, and it's also important to note 181 00:08:39,045 --> 00:08:41,765 that census blocks can vary in size and shape 182 00:08:42,185 --> 00:08:43,445 and population totals. 183 00:08:43,745 --> 00:08:45,885 Um, and so you can have a very large census blocks. 184 00:08:45,905 --> 00:08:47,205 You can have tiny census blocks. 185 00:08:47,205 --> 00:08:48,285 They can have zero people, 186 00:08:48,285 --> 00:08:49,605 they can have thousands of people. 187 00:08:50,065 --> 00:08:52,565 Um, but we sort of use them as the Lego pieces 188 00:08:52,665 --> 00:08:54,445 for building the trustee area maps, 189 00:08:54,445 --> 00:08:57,965 because when we do that, we understand exactly 190 00:08:58,105 --> 00:09:01,045 how many people based on the census live in each area. 191 00:09:01,265 --> 00:09:02,525 If we were to divide them up 192 00:09:02,525 --> 00:09:05,125 or split them in some way, regardless of their shape, 193 00:09:05,635 --> 00:09:08,005 we'd lose the accuracy of our population count. 194 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:10,685 Um, David, how many census blocks are in the district's? 195 00:09:11,025 --> 00:09:12,565 Uh, boundaries overall? 196 00:09:13,185 --> 00:09:15,605 Uh, I believe there's 1,090, 197 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:20,685 but of those only 810 have population. 198 00:09:20,745 --> 00:09:23,405 And the census does this a lot by creating census blocks 199 00:09:23,425 --> 00:09:25,445 around freeways or roadways. 200 00:09:25,445 --> 00:09:27,725 So it's quite typical that there's many 201 00:09:27,725 --> 00:09:28,805 that don't have population. 202 00:09:28,805 --> 00:09:33,725 But, uh, those with population in it that are gonna be, uh, 203 00:09:34,425 --> 00:09:36,845 key to this process there, there's 810, 204 00:09:39,865 --> 00:09:42,165 and that said, this same table 205 00:09:42,305 --> 00:09:44,325 to the right is gonna be the same for each 206 00:09:44,325 --> 00:09:45,485 of the next three slides. 207 00:09:45,865 --> 00:09:50,445 We looked at your, uh, your top three protected classes 208 00:09:50,705 --> 00:09:53,445 by population, and this is called citizen voting Age 209 00:09:53,445 --> 00:09:54,605 Population Estimates. 210 00:09:54,605 --> 00:09:57,725 This is provided by the American Community Survey, 211 00:09:58,295 --> 00:09:59,845 which is a division of the census. 212 00:10:00,265 --> 00:10:04,365 Uh, they take, uh, you know, monthly surveys, phone calls, 213 00:10:04,605 --> 00:10:07,925 a lot of information that they get on a more current basis 214 00:10:08,265 --> 00:10:11,165 to create what's called citizen voting Age Population 215 00:10:11,445 --> 00:10:14,365 estimates, or CBAP data as it's known in the industry. 216 00:10:15,105 --> 00:10:17,605 And this will be the primary number here 217 00:10:17,825 --> 00:10:19,005 in these categories. 218 00:10:19,865 --> 00:10:23,005 Uh, and ensuring that we're, uh, 219 00:10:24,105 --> 00:10:25,885 taking into account all the protected 220 00:10:25,885 --> 00:10:27,125 classes and their distribution. 221 00:10:27,705 --> 00:10:29,445 The maps provided for each 222 00:10:29,445 --> 00:10:31,125 of these in this example is Hispanic. 223 00:10:31,185 --> 00:10:34,565 It just shows a, a kind of a, a color shading 224 00:10:35,025 --> 00:10:36,845 to give you an idea of the distribution. 225 00:10:37,305 --> 00:10:39,125 It doesn't have so much the density. 226 00:10:39,905 --> 00:10:43,045 Uh, some of these really, really dark ones that show 80% 227 00:10:43,045 --> 00:10:45,045 or more might only be one or two people. 228 00:10:45,825 --> 00:10:49,445 Uh, so by CVAP, that would mean that there'd be 229 00:10:52,505 --> 00:10:54,245 one or two Hispanics as a portion 230 00:10:54,265 --> 00:10:56,765 of the total CVAP population for these blocks. 231 00:10:56,865 --> 00:10:58,845 So they're helpful in, 232 00:10:58,865 --> 00:11:00,725 in giving you an idea of the distribution. 233 00:11:00,725 --> 00:11:01,885 They're not helpful if you're trying 234 00:11:01,885 --> 00:11:03,885 to narrow down precise numbers 235 00:11:03,985 --> 00:11:06,125 and say, well then obviously the map's gonna be drawn this 236 00:11:06,125 --> 00:11:08,725 way because it doesn't take into account total count 237 00:11:08,725 --> 00:11:09,885 for each of the census blocks. 238 00:11:09,905 --> 00:11:11,245 It just gives us an idea 239 00:11:11,245 --> 00:11:13,965 and an overview to the community of where these, uh, 240 00:11:14,375 --> 00:11:16,125 these shaded blocks lie. 241 00:11:16,125 --> 00:11:19,085 And this one is for Hispanic in your district, 242 00:11:19,155 --> 00:11:20,965 they comprise 8.3% 243 00:11:20,985 --> 00:11:23,525 of the overall citizen voting age population. 244 00:11:23,935 --> 00:11:25,965 David, I wanna stay on the slide for a second just 245 00:11:25,965 --> 00:11:27,325 because, so all of these kind of, 246 00:11:27,325 --> 00:11:28,645 the ies all over the map here, 247 00:11:28,645 --> 00:11:30,285 these are all census blocks, right? 248 00:11:30,745 --> 00:11:32,205 Um, and, and so correct. 249 00:11:32,345 --> 00:11:34,885 You've got kind of large ones here along the western edge 250 00:11:34,885 --> 00:11:37,005 of the district, and then really tiny ones, uh, you know, 251 00:11:37,005 --> 00:11:39,245 in Walnut Creek, some shaded, some not, 252 00:11:39,245 --> 00:11:40,565 but just kind of what I was saying 253 00:11:40,565 --> 00:11:41,805 before, you know, 254 00:11:41,805 --> 00:11:43,685 you might have a giant census block out here 255 00:11:43,845 --> 00:11:45,125 with, you know, weird shapes. 256 00:11:45,125 --> 00:11:46,485 It's just like an upside down kind 257 00:11:46,485 --> 00:11:47,765 of Texas to me here in the bottom. 258 00:11:47,965 --> 00:11:48,965 I dunno if you can see my mouse. 259 00:11:49,345 --> 00:11:51,165 Um, but there might not be many people living there 260 00:11:51,165 --> 00:11:52,405 with when there might be thousands 261 00:11:52,405 --> 00:11:53,485 in one of the ones over here. 262 00:11:53,585 --> 00:11:57,085 So just, um, this is sort of, kind of what David has to use 263 00:11:57,085 --> 00:11:58,645 to piece together the trustee areas. 264 00:11:59,225 --> 00:12:01,565 Um, but again, just because the color is particularly dark 265 00:12:01,565 --> 00:12:03,165 doesn't mean there's a lot of people there. 266 00:12:08,425 --> 00:12:12,725 And this is the same table distribution map of those 267 00:12:12,725 --> 00:12:14,005 who identified themselves 268 00:12:14,075 --> 00:12:16,285 with the census from the census is Asian. 269 00:12:16,865 --> 00:12:19,925 Uh, to give you an example, um, Jonathan, 270 00:12:19,985 --> 00:12:23,285 if you can highlight the darkest one right under Mayor Monte 271 00:12:23,475 --> 00:12:27,325 High School, um, you know, this is helpful for showing 272 00:12:28,305 --> 00:12:31,165 the distribution, but in that dark census block, 273 00:12:31,165 --> 00:12:32,365 which has 80% 274 00:12:32,365 --> 00:12:36,925 or more Asian CVAP, there's only five people there 275 00:12:38,205 --> 00:12:40,025 out of probably six or seven. 276 00:12:41,405 --> 00:12:43,545 So the 80% 277 00:12:43,545 --> 00:12:45,945 or greater Asian is where that number comes into play. 278 00:12:45,945 --> 00:12:49,785 If you go to the next shaded one, the big, big piece 279 00:12:49,795 --> 00:12:51,745 above it, that's kind of a different color blue 280 00:12:52,735 --> 00:12:56,505 that shows 40 to 60% Asian by citizen voting age. 281 00:12:56,645 --> 00:13:01,465 And that would be 349 Asians, which means another 40 282 00:13:01,525 --> 00:13:03,385 to 60% are not Asian. 283 00:13:04,005 --> 00:13:06,225 And that'll give you kind of an idea of the size of 284 00:13:06,225 --> 00:13:07,265 that census block. 285 00:13:07,925 --> 00:13:10,545 So this is very helpful in seeing the distribution 286 00:13:11,285 --> 00:13:13,785 and understanding why maps are drawn a certain way, 287 00:13:13,925 --> 00:13:17,145 but they don't, you can't list a number 288 00:13:17,205 --> 00:13:19,425 of count on every tiny census block. 289 00:13:19,425 --> 00:13:20,985 It wouldn't really populate the map, 290 00:13:21,205 --> 00:13:24,865 but I wanted to share that with you so that you get an idea 291 00:13:24,925 --> 00:13:27,025 of, you know, the maps are gonna be drawn 292 00:13:27,025 --> 00:13:28,225 with these considerations. 293 00:13:28,365 --> 00:13:29,465 But the population 294 00:13:29,465 --> 00:13:31,825 and the citizen voting age population estimates 295 00:13:32,405 --> 00:13:34,345 are primary drivers here, along with 296 00:13:34,345 --> 00:13:36,465 what the community says, or communities of interest 297 00:13:36,485 --> 00:13:37,665 or natural boundaries. 298 00:13:38,405 --> 00:13:40,465 And, um, you know, there's a lot 299 00:13:40,465 --> 00:13:41,825 of factors that go into this. 300 00:13:42,185 --> 00:13:45,625 I know sometimes people want, uh, languages, 301 00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:48,505 they want income, they want cities, 302 00:13:48,695 --> 00:13:50,065 they want all kinds of things. 303 00:13:50,085 --> 00:13:54,425 And, and the, the mandates that we follow, um, as part 304 00:13:54,425 --> 00:13:57,505 of this process and council can elaborate on, um, 305 00:13:57,525 --> 00:13:59,265 are very detailed and we have to follow them. 306 00:13:59,265 --> 00:14:01,025 And sometimes it's not possible to 307 00:14:01,615 --> 00:14:04,745 achieve all the different shapes and sizes 308 00:14:04,745 --> 00:14:05,825 and things that people want. 309 00:14:05,885 --> 00:14:09,305 But when we create the maps, I wanted you all understand 310 00:14:09,305 --> 00:14:10,905 that these are the factors that go into it. 311 00:14:10,905 --> 00:14:11,985 These are the main components. 312 00:14:12,725 --> 00:14:15,665 Um, but there'll be other, uh, factors that 313 00:14:16,245 --> 00:14:18,185 we get from comm from feedback like this 314 00:14:18,285 --> 00:14:20,465 and other factors that we're limited to when it comes 315 00:14:20,465 --> 00:14:23,305 to numbers and, and population distributions. 316 00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:28,305 And this, of course, is your, your third largest, uh, 317 00:14:28,975 --> 00:14:31,105 demographic group that's a protected class, 318 00:14:31,105 --> 00:14:34,025 black citizen voting age population estimates. 319 00:14:34,485 --> 00:14:36,985 Um, there's a small percentage in your district of, 320 00:14:37,085 --> 00:14:41,025 of 1,545 according to the American Community Survey. 321 00:14:41,645 --> 00:14:44,345 Um, and you can see that a lot of that is spread from, 322 00:14:44,375 --> 00:14:47,105 from Loma, uh, Los Lomas High School up in the, 323 00:14:47,165 --> 00:14:48,305 to the Walnut Creek area. 324 00:14:50,725 --> 00:14:53,205 And so the, the purpose of this public hearing in the one, 325 00:14:53,205 --> 00:14:56,125 two weeks ago is to get feedback from the board 326 00:14:56,185 --> 00:14:57,605 and the community for 327 00:14:57,625 --> 00:14:59,845 how trustee area boundaries should be drawn. 328 00:14:59,905 --> 00:15:02,805 And, and to be clear, um, while we're soliciting 329 00:15:02,825 --> 00:15:04,405 as much feedback as possible now 330 00:15:04,915 --> 00:15:07,405 once draft maps are available, which will be 331 00:15:07,945 --> 00:15:10,285 by next Wednesday, 'cause that's gonna be the deadline 332 00:15:10,315 --> 00:15:13,045 with the following public hearing being September 3rd, 333 00:15:13,695 --> 00:15:16,125 those, the maps that David draws initially don't have 334 00:15:16,125 --> 00:15:17,885 to be one of the maps the board adopts. 335 00:15:18,305 --> 00:15:19,845 It can also be a starting point. 336 00:15:20,265 --> 00:15:22,405 And I often find that feedback 337 00:15:22,405 --> 00:15:25,245 after maps are drawn potentially can be really helpful. 338 00:15:25,465 --> 00:15:27,325 And, oh, now that I see what this looks like, 339 00:15:28,045 --> 00:15:30,125 I know I like this, but can we do this or that? 340 00:15:30,265 --> 00:15:32,645 Yes, changes can be made once the maps come out 341 00:15:32,785 --> 00:15:34,485 and new maps can be created from that. 342 00:15:34,545 --> 00:15:35,885 So just keep that in mind. 343 00:15:35,905 --> 00:15:38,045 But here, kind of for the initial round of maps, 344 00:15:38,545 --> 00:15:40,645 we wanna know how youth all think the trustee 345 00:15:40,645 --> 00:15:42,005 area boundary line should be drawn. 346 00:15:42,385 --> 00:15:46,125 Um, so for example, you know, what we're hoping for is, 347 00:15:46,125 --> 00:15:47,605 you know, I think neighborhood X 348 00:15:47,605 --> 00:15:49,925 and neighborhood Y should be in the same area because, 349 00:15:50,185 --> 00:15:52,925 or I think such and such is a really good boundary. 350 00:15:53,005 --> 00:15:54,325 I think that would be a good boundary, right? 351 00:15:54,325 --> 00:15:55,365 That's kind of what we're looking for. 352 00:15:55,465 --> 00:15:59,235 So on the next slide are just random, um, 353 00:16:00,315 --> 00:16:02,275 identifiable features in your community 354 00:16:02,275 --> 00:16:03,515 that I've thrown on here. 355 00:16:03,515 --> 00:16:05,235 This doesn't mean anything for the maps. 356 00:16:05,505 --> 00:16:07,755 This is just by way of trying to solicit feedback. 357 00:16:07,855 --> 00:16:11,675 So, you know, I think Highway 24 makes sense as a boundary 358 00:16:11,675 --> 00:16:13,435 because it seems like a natural boundary 359 00:16:13,455 --> 00:16:16,275 or I think the reservoir area makes sense, um, 360 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:17,955 because it makes sense geographically. 361 00:16:17,955 --> 00:16:20,035 That kind of feedback is what we're looking for tonight. 362 00:16:20,575 --> 00:16:25,115 Um, and so kind of again, where we are in this process is 363 00:16:25,405 --> 00:16:27,755 after tonight second pre-AP public hearing, 364 00:16:27,765 --> 00:16:31,075 David will draw draft trustee area plans based on 365 00:16:31,115 --> 00:16:32,155 a variety of factors. 366 00:16:32,815 --> 00:16:36,035 Um, comply with the constitution, US 367 00:16:36,035 --> 00:16:37,595 and California population. 368 00:16:37,595 --> 00:16:39,515 Balance is the number one factor. 369 00:16:40,015 --> 00:16:43,795 Um, again, about 23,800 people per trustee area. 370 00:16:44,495 --> 00:16:46,835 The reason why you can't put a hundred thousand people in 371 00:16:46,835 --> 00:16:49,075 one area and then 5,000 in another is 372 00:16:49,075 --> 00:16:50,555 because you dilute the voting power 373 00:16:51,055 --> 00:16:52,635 of folks in those areas, right? 374 00:16:52,935 --> 00:16:55,155 If, if there's a hundred thousand people in one area 375 00:16:55,215 --> 00:16:57,715 and five in another, your vote is way more powerful if you 376 00:16:57,715 --> 00:16:59,155 live in the 5,000 person area. 377 00:16:59,175 --> 00:17:02,555 So kind of one person in one vote, uh, is the standard, 378 00:17:02,735 --> 00:17:03,955 uh, in the United States. 379 00:17:04,015 --> 00:17:06,915 And so that's kind of why we redistrict every 10 years 380 00:17:06,975 --> 00:17:09,355 for Congress and other seats, uh, 381 00:17:09,425 --> 00:17:10,635 same kind of rules apply here. 382 00:17:10,635 --> 00:17:11,875 So balanced population. 383 00:17:12,225 --> 00:17:14,355 Then we look at the Federal Voting Rights Act. 384 00:17:14,415 --> 00:17:17,955 Is it possible to create a majority area made up 385 00:17:18,055 --> 00:17:21,795 of protected class, um, groupings? 386 00:17:21,815 --> 00:17:24,715 Now here we know that any one grouping, we've done 387 00:17:24,715 --> 00:17:26,235 that analysis, it's not possible. 388 00:17:26,615 --> 00:17:28,955 We were asked at the last name to see if it was possible 389 00:17:28,975 --> 00:17:31,595 to draw kind of a conglomerate grouping of can, 390 00:17:31,615 --> 00:17:33,395 can we take all of the protected classes? 391 00:17:33,535 --> 00:17:36,315 Is there a way to make a, um, majority area 392 00:17:36,415 --> 00:17:38,435 of a combined protected class group? 393 00:17:38,935 --> 00:17:40,155 I'm not so sure it's possible. 394 00:17:40,155 --> 00:17:42,635 David will look into that when he draws the maps. 395 00:17:42,855 --> 00:17:44,235 But that's kind of the next feature. 396 00:17:44,295 --> 00:17:46,995 That's what we look at when we look at that C VAP data, 397 00:17:46,995 --> 00:17:49,035 those charts that we just looked at a few slides ago. 398 00:17:50,195 --> 00:17:52,845 Then, um, there's a ranked order 399 00:17:52,865 --> 00:17:54,285 of priority that we have to consider. 400 00:17:54,385 --> 00:17:55,925 So first we have to balance the population. 401 00:17:55,925 --> 00:17:58,045 We have to look at the C VAP data for protected classes. 402 00:17:58,515 --> 00:18:00,485 Then we have to make sure the maps are contiguous. 403 00:18:00,795 --> 00:18:03,965 Meaning you can't start a trustee area, say in Orinda, 404 00:18:04,355 --> 00:18:06,925 stop it, and then start it up again in Walnut Creek 405 00:18:06,945 --> 00:18:09,085 and then say that that's both the same trustee area. 406 00:18:09,185 --> 00:18:10,285 It has to be connected. 407 00:18:10,745 --> 00:18:12,525 Um, then we look at local neighborhoods 408 00:18:12,525 --> 00:18:14,605 and communities of interest, cities 409 00:18:14,705 --> 00:18:16,045 or census designated places, 410 00:18:16,515 --> 00:18:19,205 natural artificial boundaries and compactness. 411 00:18:19,625 --> 00:18:22,735 Um, it's important to note that the maps cannot 412 00:18:22,795 --> 00:18:25,655 and will not be drawn for the purposes of favoring 413 00:18:25,815 --> 00:18:27,495 or discriminating against any incumbent 414 00:18:27,925 --> 00:18:29,535 political candidate or political party. 415 00:18:29,865 --> 00:18:32,335 David will never know where any of the trustees live. 416 00:18:32,715 --> 00:18:34,775 Um, he's just drawing it based on the criteria 417 00:18:34,775 --> 00:18:36,055 that we've been walking through here. 418 00:18:36,435 --> 00:18:39,255 Um, because ultimately these maps are gonna be the maps 419 00:18:39,275 --> 00:18:40,415 for the district, regardless 420 00:18:40,415 --> 00:18:42,455 of who's on the board moving forwards. 421 00:18:44,115 --> 00:18:46,935 Um, just so you can see where your cities 422 00:18:47,035 --> 00:18:48,935 and census designated places are 423 00:18:49,475 --> 00:18:50,935 in the high school attendance areas. 424 00:18:51,515 --> 00:18:53,735 Um, this map here shows that, um, 425 00:18:53,785 --> 00:18:56,135 David added in rossmore since the last meeting. 426 00:18:56,335 --> 00:18:57,775 'cause I know that that came up a little bit. 427 00:18:57,835 --> 00:19:00,655 So, um, just kind of showing where it is on the map. 428 00:19:01,115 --> 00:19:03,135 Um, we've also added a couple of other slides 429 00:19:03,135 --> 00:19:04,335 that I'll connect to now. 430 00:19:04,395 --> 00:19:07,175 So the blue lines here are your attendance 431 00:19:07,225 --> 00:19:08,655 areas for your high schools. 432 00:19:09,195 --> 00:19:11,415 Um, the different colors are different cities 433 00:19:11,475 --> 00:19:12,735 or census designated places. 434 00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:17,125 We've now taken off the high school attendance areas 435 00:19:17,145 --> 00:19:19,885 and are just looking at your partner districts, um, 436 00:19:19,945 --> 00:19:22,605 and show where those boundaries are, again, still 437 00:19:22,605 --> 00:19:25,285 with the city, uh, and CDP colors there. 438 00:19:25,865 --> 00:19:29,405 And then even further where the school site boundaries are 439 00:19:29,405 --> 00:19:30,685 for the elementary district. 440 00:19:30,985 --> 00:19:32,525 Um, 'cause we understand those may be 441 00:19:32,685 --> 00:19:33,885 considered a community of interest. 442 00:19:34,335 --> 00:19:36,485 Again, you know, lower on the list than total 443 00:19:36,485 --> 00:19:37,725 population and some other factors. 444 00:19:37,865 --> 00:19:39,725 But it's something that you, you wanted to see 445 00:19:39,725 --> 00:19:40,965 and that we wanted to look at. 446 00:19:41,065 --> 00:19:44,365 So to the extent where we may have to draw a line somewhere, 447 00:19:44,385 --> 00:19:47,165 we can look to this, which again, these might not line up 448 00:19:47,165 --> 00:19:50,205 with census blocks, but we can look to them to generally try 449 00:19:50,205 --> 00:19:52,885 to keep some of the communities together to the extent 450 00:19:52,885 --> 00:19:55,285 that we're coming up on, on boundaries, um, 451 00:19:55,345 --> 00:19:56,765 for various, um, sites. 452 00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,885 So, um, what is the community of interest? 453 00:19:59,955 --> 00:20:02,925 It's a very detailed definition. Uh, it's very amorphous. 454 00:20:02,995 --> 00:20:05,325 It's sort of whatever you think it should be, as long 455 00:20:05,325 --> 00:20:08,205 as it's not based on political, uh, considerations. 456 00:20:08,465 --> 00:20:11,125 So a community of interest is a population 457 00:20:11,125 --> 00:20:13,325 that shares common social and economic interests. 458 00:20:13,625 --> 00:20:14,845 Um, that's very broad. 459 00:20:15,145 --> 00:20:18,765 The statute gives some more specifics of suggestions of 460 00:20:18,765 --> 00:20:20,485 what might be a community of interest. 461 00:20:20,905 --> 00:20:23,525 Um, but the only thing that's certain is what's not 462 00:20:24,045 --> 00:20:25,725 relationship to a political party. 463 00:20:26,215 --> 00:20:27,885 Incumbents and political candidates, 464 00:20:27,885 --> 00:20:30,245 those are not factored into communities of interest. 465 00:20:31,265 --> 00:20:33,365 Um, some final thoughts here in the presentation 466 00:20:34,785 --> 00:20:36,565 in the next couple weeks, there's gonna be lots 467 00:20:36,565 --> 00:20:38,805 of maps out there on, on your website 468 00:20:38,805 --> 00:20:39,965 and, and talked about online. 469 00:20:40,265 --> 00:20:42,245 And just know that this does not change 470 00:20:42,245 --> 00:20:43,365 where anybody goes to school. 471 00:20:43,435 --> 00:20:45,525 This doesn't change the district's boundaries overall. 472 00:20:46,025 --> 00:20:47,925 It doesn't even change how the board is governed. 473 00:20:48,315 --> 00:20:50,445 It's, you know, every board member still owes the duties 474 00:20:50,445 --> 00:20:51,565 of the entire district. 475 00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:54,205 It's still one district with common goals and challenges. 476 00:20:55,065 --> 00:20:57,445 Um, as fast as this is, we're kind 477 00:20:57,445 --> 00:20:58,565 of at the halfway point now. 478 00:20:58,865 --> 00:21:00,125 Um, after tonight's meeting, 479 00:21:00,125 --> 00:21:01,525 the demographer's gonna prepare maps. 480 00:21:01,525 --> 00:21:03,285 There'll be out by August 27th. 481 00:21:03,895 --> 00:21:07,485 We'll have three map public hearings on October 15th 482 00:21:07,915 --> 00:21:09,525 following the last public hearing. 483 00:21:09,545 --> 00:21:12,925 The board will vote to adopt one of the map options, um, 484 00:21:13,065 --> 00:21:15,205 on the district's website, under the board tab, 485 00:21:15,205 --> 00:21:18,285 there is a transition to trustee areas page. 486 00:21:18,625 --> 00:21:21,845 It takes you here and it has the schedule, has information, 487 00:21:21,945 --> 00:21:24,325 has a flyer, has all the presentations, 488 00:21:24,325 --> 00:21:25,965 and eventually shortly we'll have the 489 00:21:26,075 --> 00:21:27,685 maps, uh, in about a week. 490 00:21:28,105 --> 00:21:30,165 Um, and so it's just a kind of a home base for 491 00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:31,725 where all the information can be found. 492 00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:35,525 Um, so with that, I will unshare my screen, um, 493 00:21:36,065 --> 00:21:37,765 and stand by for either questions 494 00:21:37,765 --> 00:21:39,885 and comments from the board or, uh, 495 00:21:40,185 --> 00:21:41,365 listen to public comment. 496 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:43,885 Maybe I'll just maybe go back to this slide 497 00:21:44,025 --> 00:21:46,685 and kind of leave this up, um, for that. 498 00:21:46,825 --> 00:21:47,825 So thank you. 499 00:21:49,615 --> 00:21:52,045 Thank you so much for all that information. 500 00:21:52,665 --> 00:21:54,165 Um, right now I'd just like 501 00:21:54,165 --> 00:21:56,645 to see if the board has clarifying questions. 502 00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:05,845 Okay. Um, so we also wanna hear from the public 503 00:22:06,065 --> 00:22:10,325 and we've received, um, cards from two pe two people 504 00:22:10,985 --> 00:22:13,125 who wish to address the subject during the hearing. 505 00:22:13,905 --> 00:22:16,205 Um, you'll each have up to three minutes 506 00:22:16,265 --> 00:22:17,205 to address the board, 507 00:22:24,545 --> 00:22:25,525 and that's it. So, 508 00:22:26,065 --> 00:22:29,085 Um, and President Chen, I just was notified that the, 509 00:22:29,635 --> 00:22:30,965 this was not streaming, 510 00:22:31,185 --> 00:22:32,765 so we're trying to make some adjustments. 511 00:22:32,765 --> 00:22:34,845 Okay. We, we will have audio recording. 512 00:22:35,185 --> 00:22:38,365 Um, but unfortunately Okay, 513 00:22:39,385 --> 00:22:42,085 Do you need a, I'm five figure out, I'm trying recess 514 00:22:42,085 --> 00:22:43,125 to figure it out, or, 515 00:22:43,705 --> 00:22:47,805 Um, yeah, why don't we take a, 516 00:22:48,165 --> 00:22:49,805 a quick recess. 517 00:22:50,385 --> 00:22:53,085 Uh, David and Jonathan, we're gonna take like a, 518 00:22:53,195 --> 00:22:54,365 just a three minute recess, 519 00:22:54,365 --> 00:22:56,245 see if we can get the streaming functioning, 520 00:22:56,745 --> 00:22:57,965 um, of the video. 521 00:22:58,755 --> 00:23:00,925 That sounds good. I also forgot to share the, 522 00:23:01,105 --> 00:23:03,365 the public input that you've received via email. 523 00:23:03,385 --> 00:23:06,725 And so maybe either right after the, the two public comments 524 00:23:06,745 --> 00:23:09,205 or right before whenever Board President Chen thinks makes 525 00:23:09,205 --> 00:23:11,085 sense for me to kind of give a summary 526 00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,245 of those comments whenever you all prefer. 527 00:23:15,875 --> 00:23:18,685 Okay. Yeah. So let's take a five minute recess. Okay. 528 00:23:19,515 --> 00:23:20,205 Nick, do you see, 529 00:23:29,375 --> 00:23:31,315 So I just apologize, we're not able 530 00:23:31,335 --> 00:23:32,435 to get the streaming up, 531 00:23:32,455 --> 00:23:35,915 but the, the, um, audio recording will be, um, going 532 00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:37,275 and we'll be posted. 533 00:23:38,215 --> 00:23:41,435 Um, so at this time I'd like to do, oh, wait, um, 534 00:23:41,685 --> 00:23:46,525 let's have, if Jonathan yeah, 535 00:23:47,215 --> 00:23:50,325 wants to talk about the feedback we've gotten so far, 536 00:23:50,865 --> 00:23:52,765 and then we can do the public comments. 537 00:23:53,635 --> 00:23:57,205 Yeah. Can you hear 538 00:23:57,205 --> 00:23:57,805 Me? Yeah. 539 00:23:58,795 --> 00:24:02,325 Okay. So, um, at the, the email address that was created, 540 00:24:02,825 --> 00:24:05,845 um, I think it's like trustee area feedback at a u 541 00:24:06,785 --> 00:24:07,845 hsd schools.org. 542 00:24:08,185 --> 00:24:10,845 Um, the districts received about eight, um, 543 00:24:11,125 --> 00:24:12,565 messages since the last meeting. 544 00:24:12,635 --> 00:24:13,765 Some of them came in today. 545 00:24:14,225 --> 00:24:16,485 Um, some of 'em are quite lengthy, so I'm just, 546 00:24:16,525 --> 00:24:18,365 I did my best to summarize sort of the, 547 00:24:18,785 --> 00:24:19,925 the key points from them. 548 00:24:20,105 --> 00:24:24,965 So, um, there were two, uh, of the eight, uh, uh, 549 00:24:24,965 --> 00:24:27,445 mentioned you were focused on Rossmore 550 00:24:27,705 --> 00:24:30,525 and indicated that they did not wanna see Rossmore split up, 551 00:24:30,945 --> 00:24:34,365 um, specifically, um, you know, don't split up based on age. 552 00:24:34,865 --> 00:24:36,605 And another comment related to that was 553 00:24:36,605 --> 00:24:39,765 that they think rossmore is a community of interest, um, 554 00:24:39,795 --> 00:24:40,845 that should be kept together. 555 00:24:40,905 --> 00:24:42,845 And that there's many A-U-H-S-C 556 00:24:42,845 --> 00:24:43,925 grandparents that live there. 557 00:24:44,465 --> 00:24:48,005 Um, there's again, a lot of, a lot of comments 558 00:24:48,025 --> 00:24:49,005 and feedback, so I'm just gonna 559 00:24:49,005 --> 00:24:50,125 share them kind of one at a time. 560 00:24:50,265 --> 00:24:53,005 So, uh, one thought was not 561 00:24:53,005 --> 00:24:54,845 to use attendance areas as boundary lines. 562 00:24:55,005 --> 00:24:57,085 'cause that might create silos for decision making. 563 00:24:57,165 --> 00:24:59,005 I think that's something we talked about last time. 564 00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:00,765 Um, someone said 565 00:25:00,765 --> 00:25:02,965 that overall the whole district is a community of interest. 566 00:25:03,465 --> 00:25:07,245 Um, others suggested crossing across school boundaries. 567 00:25:07,245 --> 00:25:10,285 So that there is sort of a, a kind of a pull to multiple, 568 00:25:10,465 --> 00:25:13,325 uh, schools that to kinda keep everybody honest, um, 569 00:25:14,625 --> 00:25:17,365 one person suggested putting all the underrepresented groups 570 00:25:17,605 --> 00:25:19,005 together, kind of like what I believe 571 00:25:19,305 --> 00:25:21,045 for President Chen mentioned last time, which is, 572 00:25:21,045 --> 00:25:23,885 is it possible to create, you know, an area that is 573 00:25:24,925 --> 00:25:26,885 majority protected class, but maybe not one? 574 00:25:27,185 --> 00:25:28,805 Um, again, not sure that that's possible, 575 00:25:28,825 --> 00:25:31,165 but it is a, a suggestion that was thrown out here 576 00:25:31,765 --> 00:25:34,165 specifically, the person mentioned the northeastern part 577 00:25:34,165 --> 00:25:35,925 of the district, like the apartments 578 00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,405 and condos that are near the bart. 579 00:25:37,745 --> 00:25:40,045 Um, and, and around kind of North Maine. 580 00:25:40,465 --> 00:25:42,845 Um, someone else's suggestion was, 581 00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:44,645 and again, some of these are in the same email, 582 00:25:44,705 --> 00:25:47,805 but to empower historically underrepresented populations, 583 00:25:48,335 --> 00:25:50,485 maybe look at income level or where students are. 584 00:25:50,985 --> 00:25:54,205 Um, someone suggested that neighborhoods, uh, 585 00:25:54,205 --> 00:25:56,965 elementary attendance zones and language communities, 586 00:25:56,965 --> 00:25:59,885 and they specifically named Park Mead Happy Valley, 587 00:26:00,425 --> 00:26:02,565 and the, uh, specifically the Buena Vista 588 00:26:02,625 --> 00:26:05,325 and downtown Walnut Creek neighborhood, that they identified 589 00:26:05,325 --> 00:26:07,885 that as diverse and that maybe the Buena Vista, 590 00:26:08,285 --> 00:26:10,285 downtown Walnut Creek area could be tied 591 00:26:10,285 --> 00:26:11,725 to the Spring Hill Elementary area, 592 00:26:11,745 --> 00:26:13,565 and that, that might make sense to this person. 593 00:26:14,185 --> 00:26:17,245 Um, then there's, uh, a series of emails that will receive 594 00:26:17,245 --> 00:26:19,885 that have, um, some kind of bulleted pointed ideas. 595 00:26:20,505 --> 00:26:23,765 Um, and to be clear, I think they're all good ideas. 596 00:26:23,985 --> 00:26:26,125 I'm just not sure how practical they are to, to actually, 597 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:28,205 um, show up on the map. 598 00:26:28,225 --> 00:26:31,405 So, for example, um, you know, people who are community 599 00:26:31,405 --> 00:26:34,205 of interest who voted in support of school bonds 600 00:26:34,265 --> 00:26:37,965 or partial taxes, but also people who support visual 601 00:26:37,985 --> 00:26:41,445 and performing arts support diversity in our schools support 602 00:26:41,445 --> 00:26:45,925 social justice, um, support services for LGBTQ plus youth, 603 00:26:46,305 --> 00:26:48,845 um, support, uh, immigrant rights support, 604 00:26:48,845 --> 00:26:49,885 neurodiversity awareness. 605 00:26:49,975 --> 00:26:52,485 Again, there are probably people for thousands 606 00:26:52,485 --> 00:26:53,645 that exist in the district. 607 00:26:53,915 --> 00:26:55,365 It's really hard to say where they, 608 00:26:55,385 --> 00:26:57,285 if they live in a concentrated area or not. 609 00:26:57,665 --> 00:26:58,845 Um, but nevertheless, 610 00:26:58,845 --> 00:27:00,805 these are these suggestions that were shared. 611 00:27:00,805 --> 00:27:02,445 And so I wanted to make sure the board heard them 612 00:27:02,515 --> 00:27:04,125 because we did say that, you know, 613 00:27:04,175 --> 00:27:05,565 these email comments are just 614 00:27:05,565 --> 00:27:06,805 as good as coming to the board meeting. 615 00:27:06,985 --> 00:27:08,845 So I wanna make sure that the points got across 616 00:27:08,865 --> 00:27:10,565 to the board and the demographer 617 00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:15,375 Just to share. 618 00:27:15,545 --> 00:27:18,105 I believe the comment was Spring Hill 619 00:27:18,105 --> 00:27:21,705 and Buena Vista might not be a good combination. 620 00:27:24,995 --> 00:27:26,295 That's how I remembered it too. 621 00:27:27,385 --> 00:27:29,855 There you go. Okay, then thank you for, for, 622 00:27:29,955 --> 00:27:31,015 for reading it better than I did. 623 00:27:31,135 --> 00:27:33,055 I, I think the way I read it was 624 00:27:38,555 --> 00:27:40,095 One of the comments said, I'm sorry. 625 00:27:40,095 --> 00:27:43,055 So first, for example, the Buena Vista, 626 00:27:43,125 --> 00:27:45,735 this is why I wrote this, said this, and maybe I misread it, 627 00:27:45,735 --> 00:27:48,295 but for example, the Buena Vista Downtown Walnut Creek 628 00:27:48,295 --> 00:27:49,455 neighborhood is highly diverse 629 00:27:49,455 --> 00:27:51,655 and has multiple renters, multiple languages spoken. 630 00:27:52,075 --> 00:27:54,135 If this repaired with another school community in a 631 00:27:54,135 --> 00:27:56,815 different zone, the contiguous set would likely be the area 632 00:27:56,815 --> 00:27:58,055 around Spring Hill. 633 00:27:58,385 --> 00:28:01,015 These neighborhoods are contiguous and satisfy the words. 634 00:28:01,115 --> 00:28:02,135 Oh, there you go. You are right. 635 00:28:02,135 --> 00:28:03,735 But it would d delete the power. There you go. Right. 636 00:28:03,835 --> 00:28:07,655 So, um, yeah, so don't do that. Uh, is is the suggestions. 637 00:28:08,385 --> 00:28:09,775 Don't, don't tie Spring Hill 638 00:28:09,775 --> 00:28:11,495 to Buena Vista and Walnut Creek. 639 00:28:15,565 --> 00:28:19,095 Okay. Thank you for the clarification. 640 00:28:20,555 --> 00:28:22,855 All right. So, um, at this time I'd like to pivot 641 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:27,655 to public comment and invite OG Straus guest to the podium. 642 00:28:28,435 --> 00:28:29,535 And you just push a little button 643 00:28:29,675 --> 00:28:30,975 for the red light to come on. 644 00:28:36,385 --> 00:28:37,385 There you go. 645 00:28:38,445 --> 00:28:42,455 Good evening. I'm OG Strotz. I live in Walnut Creek. 646 00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:45,415 Our son attended Buena Vista Elementary, 647 00:28:45,415 --> 00:28:47,935 Walnut Creek Intermediate and Las Lomas. 648 00:28:48,315 --> 00:28:50,655 Uh, so I wanna echo previous public 649 00:28:50,935 --> 00:28:51,975 comments that have been expressed. 650 00:28:52,155 --> 00:28:53,295 Uh, I feel it's crucial 651 00:28:53,725 --> 00:28:56,815 that our district's socioeconomic diversity as well 652 00:28:56,815 --> 00:28:58,695 as our racial and ethnic diversity 653 00:28:59,315 --> 00:29:02,335 are reflected in the drawing of trustee areas so 654 00:29:02,335 --> 00:29:05,295 that historically marginalized voices are heard 655 00:29:05,755 --> 00:29:07,175 in district decision making. 656 00:29:07,585 --> 00:29:08,585 Thank you. 657 00:29:10,295 --> 00:29:13,605 Thank you. Uh, next, Denise Buran. 658 00:29:20,185 --> 00:29:23,085 Denise Burien. I live in Willow Creek and thank you Ji. 659 00:29:23,205 --> 00:29:24,685 I couldn't have said it better myself, 660 00:29:25,005 --> 00:29:26,405 although I did try in my email. 661 00:29:27,305 --> 00:29:31,765 Um, so I think my email was represented, uh, in the comments 662 00:29:31,765 --> 00:29:34,645 that were made by, uh, Mr. 663 00:29:34,875 --> 00:29:36,965 Salt, if I got that right. 664 00:29:37,305 --> 00:29:40,565 And, um, but I just have, I have a couple of things I, 665 00:29:40,685 --> 00:29:42,605 I understand we can't really ask questions, 666 00:29:42,705 --> 00:29:46,325 but I do have a couple of, I think an additional comments. 667 00:29:46,465 --> 00:29:48,125 And I, since it's obvious that you guys are, 668 00:29:48,305 --> 00:29:51,645 are reading our comments, um, I'm wondering what, 669 00:29:51,715 --> 00:29:54,725 when we see the maps, whether we're gonna be able to see, 670 00:29:55,265 --> 00:29:58,645 see the, uh, see the reflection of some 671 00:29:58,645 --> 00:30:01,845 of the questions we've asked in those maps. 672 00:30:02,025 --> 00:30:03,325 So you're gonna cut in the next meeting. 673 00:30:03,325 --> 00:30:04,885 You're gonna come up with these sample maps. 674 00:30:05,085 --> 00:30:06,325 I don't know how many you're gonna come up with, 675 00:30:06,425 --> 00:30:09,725 but We'll, when you do the presentation, we'll be able 676 00:30:09,725 --> 00:30:12,845 to see where's the ethnic diversity, where's the income? 677 00:30:12,945 --> 00:30:15,365 I'm really, you know, I, I agree with, with OG that we need 678 00:30:15,365 --> 00:30:19,165 to have, um, uh, income that, you know, 679 00:30:19,635 --> 00:30:21,885 that the people in lower incomes, while 680 00:30:22,035 --> 00:30:24,725 that is still relative to other low income areas 681 00:30:25,185 --> 00:30:28,925 for our district, um, if there is a low income area, that 682 00:30:29,035 --> 00:30:30,285 that would be a very unique 683 00:30:30,945 --> 00:30:32,765 and they would definitely be a community of interest. 684 00:30:33,585 --> 00:30:36,965 Um, so I'm wondering if that will be reflected in the map 685 00:30:37,025 --> 00:30:39,085 so we can sort of see that as they go through 686 00:30:39,085 --> 00:30:41,485 and say why they, why you put, 687 00:30:41,585 --> 00:30:44,125 I'm looking at the people up here, why, why you, uh, 688 00:30:44,225 --> 00:30:46,285 why you put, made that map the way that you did. 689 00:30:46,705 --> 00:30:48,765 So I'm hoping that can be met. 690 00:30:49,705 --> 00:30:54,685 And, um, I do like 691 00:30:54,805 --> 00:30:57,085 the idea of putting as many of the, um, 692 00:30:58,285 --> 00:31:00,285 minority protected classes that show them 693 00:31:00,425 --> 00:31:01,485 in, in one district. 694 00:31:01,605 --> 00:31:03,325 I mean, I realize they're not gonna all be in, 695 00:31:03,515 --> 00:31:05,965 they're not all there 'cause they're scattered about. 696 00:31:06,065 --> 00:31:07,805 But, um, I think that there are some areas 697 00:31:07,875 --> 00:31:08,965 that could accomplish that. 698 00:31:09,985 --> 00:31:13,885 And, um, I also want to say 699 00:31:13,885 --> 00:31:16,325 that I would like the idea of the fact 700 00:31:16,325 --> 00:31:19,125 that you guys assign each other to different schools. 701 00:31:19,205 --> 00:31:21,045 I dunno if you do it by year or when you do it, 702 00:31:21,785 --> 00:31:25,005 but, um, that's a great idea. 703 00:31:25,145 --> 00:31:28,285 So if somebody is living in that district, not give them 704 00:31:28,285 --> 00:31:30,525 that school to be responsible for. 705 00:31:31,125 --> 00:31:34,005 I, I guess that's what I'm trying to say anyway. 706 00:31:34,305 --> 00:31:35,565 So thank you for the, 707 00:31:35,625 --> 00:31:37,125 how thoroughly you're looking into this, 708 00:31:37,225 --> 00:31:40,605 and I look forward to seeing the sample maps. Thanks. 709 00:31:41,495 --> 00:31:45,485 Thank you. Uh, next, Nathan Iyengar. 710 00:31:54,505 --> 00:31:57,365 Um, hello, uh, my name's Nathan Angar. 711 00:31:57,725 --> 00:32:01,845 I am a parent of a ninth grader at Las Lomas 712 00:32:01,985 --> 00:32:03,805 and former Walnut Creek School board member. 713 00:32:04,465 --> 00:32:06,685 Um, first off, thank you all for this. 714 00:32:06,905 --> 00:32:09,685 Um, I appreciate in the last meeting there are no easy 715 00:32:09,685 --> 00:32:11,925 answers and this is an incredibly difficult topic. 716 00:32:12,625 --> 00:32:15,965 Um, everyone may say, oh, it's easy to draw a map, 717 00:32:15,985 --> 00:32:17,405 and it's incredibly difficult. 718 00:32:17,465 --> 00:32:19,325 So thank you for your effort 719 00:32:19,325 --> 00:32:20,565 and intentionality in this process. 720 00:32:21,425 --> 00:32:25,085 Um, I just share three things, um, that are kind 721 00:32:25,085 --> 00:32:26,645 of principles that I've been thinking about. 722 00:32:26,695 --> 00:32:29,525 First is, as much as possible, 723 00:32:29,665 --> 00:32:31,885 please prioritize keeping the following 724 00:32:31,885 --> 00:32:33,165 communities of interest together. 725 00:32:34,025 --> 00:32:37,005 Um, elementary school zones, multilingual families, 726 00:32:37,005 --> 00:32:38,645 racial groups, income status, 727 00:32:39,225 --> 00:32:40,805 and residents who have historically 728 00:32:40,805 --> 00:32:42,245 supported public education. 729 00:32:42,865 --> 00:32:45,685 Um, I get that some of these are quite difficult to measure 730 00:32:46,265 --> 00:32:47,845 and would just offer, um, 731 00:32:48,025 --> 00:32:51,765 if there's data on home language spoken, um, renter status 732 00:32:51,985 --> 00:32:56,005 or even patterns of past civic engagement by how people, um, 733 00:32:56,705 --> 00:32:59,005 the percentage of people who voted in parcel tax 734 00:32:59,105 --> 00:33:00,845 or bond, um, support. 735 00:33:01,785 --> 00:33:06,765 Um, second, appreciate the notion of trying to have, uh, 736 00:33:07,285 --> 00:33:10,365 districts or vote trustee area span multiple, um, 737 00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:12,605 high schools, multiple high school attendance areas. 738 00:33:13,165 --> 00:33:15,445 I would just wanna make sure that's done with cautions so 739 00:33:15,445 --> 00:33:17,365 as not to dilute, um, 740 00:33:19,005 --> 00:33:20,485 historically underrepresented groups 741 00:33:20,485 --> 00:33:22,565 that may be in one neighborhood then are 742 00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:23,765 paired with another neighborhood. 743 00:33:24,225 --> 00:33:27,085 Um, and so in practice, just making sure 744 00:33:27,085 --> 00:33:30,245 that the new maps give all communities a real ability 745 00:33:30,265 --> 00:33:32,325 to represent a, have a representative 746 00:33:32,745 --> 00:33:34,605 who is proximate to their needs. 747 00:33:35,425 --> 00:33:39,565 And then finally, um, understand that the data used 748 00:33:39,565 --> 00:33:41,885 to inform this is from the 2020 census. 749 00:33:43,005 --> 00:33:44,885 A lot has changed since the 2020 census, 750 00:33:45,025 --> 00:33:47,405 and a lot will change in the coming years. 751 00:33:47,505 --> 00:33:50,165 And so, as much as possible, not only looking at 752 00:33:50,255 --> 00:33:51,485 where data is today, 753 00:33:52,065 --> 00:33:54,325 but forecasting how things might change, 754 00:33:54,395 --> 00:33:57,765 what areas might grow, what areas might decline, I'm sure 755 00:33:57,765 --> 00:34:00,005 that this board or future boards would not want 756 00:34:00,005 --> 00:34:01,485 to do this process over again. 757 00:34:01,745 --> 00:34:04,125 And so, as much as possible, having this be something 758 00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:05,525 that can last for multiple years. 759 00:34:06,425 --> 00:34:09,685 Um, and then finally, would just please continue to ensure 760 00:34:09,685 --> 00:34:11,765 that public engagement, um, 761 00:34:12,065 --> 00:34:14,005 is truly accessible for this process. 762 00:34:14,785 --> 00:34:17,445 Um, from conversations with multiple families. 763 00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:20,125 There are many families who are really in the dark on what's 764 00:34:20,125 --> 00:34:23,245 happening here, and would just wanna make sure that as much 765 00:34:23,245 --> 00:34:25,365 as possible, especially as we get into maps, 766 00:34:25,845 --> 00:34:27,005 families are aware of what's happening 767 00:34:27,105 --> 00:34:28,485 and can have space to comment. 768 00:34:29,345 --> 00:34:31,485 Um, again, thank you for your service. 769 00:34:31,495 --> 00:34:32,645 Thank you for what you're doing. 770 00:34:32,945 --> 00:34:34,645 And I think we all share that. Done well. 771 00:34:35,115 --> 00:34:37,165 This process can really center families, 772 00:34:37,235 --> 00:34:39,245 elevate those voices least heard, 773 00:34:39,505 --> 00:34:41,205 and ultimately strengthen democratic 774 00:34:41,205 --> 00:34:43,325 representation in the district. Thank you all. 775 00:34:43,935 --> 00:34:48,845 Thank you. And I'd like to invite Samantha, Fran. 776 00:35:02,155 --> 00:35:05,735 Hi, uh, president Chen, uh, superintendent Nickerson 777 00:35:05,795 --> 00:35:06,815 and governing board. 778 00:35:07,185 --> 00:35:10,655 Thank you so much. Um, I, uh, wanna echo 779 00:35:10,655 --> 00:35:14,495 what has been said tonight in terms of considering, um, 780 00:35:14,605 --> 00:35:15,895 communities of interest. 781 00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:20,415 I was, uh, able to listen to most of the last meeting, 782 00:35:20,755 --> 00:35:22,655 and I appreciate that it was streamed. 783 00:35:22,655 --> 00:35:24,815 And so, um, for people out there, 784 00:35:24,835 --> 00:35:26,455 the audio version is good as well. 785 00:35:27,155 --> 00:35:30,375 And I just wanted to bring up the rossmore, um, issue. 786 00:35:30,875 --> 00:35:33,175 Uh, I'm happy the demo, uh, 787 00:35:33,205 --> 00:35:37,205 that a board member made the demographer, um, aware of it. 788 00:35:37,705 --> 00:35:41,725 Um, Rossmore is 12,007, uh, 789 00:35:41,785 --> 00:35:45,245 117 people as of 2025. 790 00:35:45,745 --> 00:35:48,605 The census recorded it, um, in 2020 791 00:35:48,825 --> 00:35:50,965 as 11,923. 792 00:35:51,745 --> 00:35:55,965 So with a group of, of 23,000, um, 793 00:35:56,505 --> 00:35:59,485 per district, it's really important to, um, recognize 794 00:35:59,515 --> 00:36:02,445 what a big portion of a population that is. 795 00:36:02,585 --> 00:36:06,605 And I know all the school board members here have, um, been 796 00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:10,525 to rossmore because it is a large voting population, um, 797 00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:12,645 as Ms mentioned in the last meeting. 798 00:36:13,385 --> 00:36:16,165 So, um, I have faith in the board. 799 00:36:16,485 --> 00:36:17,685 I appreciate your service. 800 00:36:18,425 --> 00:36:21,685 Uh, I thank you for, uh, undertaking this service. 801 00:36:22,345 --> 00:36:26,045 And I just wanted to express, um, my appreciation, um, 802 00:36:26,105 --> 00:36:27,285 for this thoughtful process. 803 00:36:27,945 --> 00:36:30,965 And again, hope that you consider, um, 804 00:36:31,015 --> 00:36:33,485 elementary school boundaries, um, 805 00:36:33,785 --> 00:36:38,685 and neighborhoods as, uh, as a, a key part 806 00:36:38,685 --> 00:36:40,045 of community of interests. 807 00:36:40,465 --> 00:36:41,525 Um, so thanks again. 808 00:36:42,775 --> 00:36:43,245 Thank you. 809 00:36:52,785 --> 00:36:55,005 So I'd like to invite, um, the board members 810 00:36:55,225 --> 00:36:57,805 to make additional comments, ask questions, 811 00:36:58,225 --> 00:37:00,765 or submit input to Mr. 812 00:37:00,915 --> 00:37:02,245 Salt and Mr. Lopez. 813 00:37:03,185 --> 00:37:05,245 Do, do you want to have Mr. 814 00:37:05,395 --> 00:37:08,725 Salt respond to any of the kind of inquiries 815 00:37:08,725 --> 00:37:10,525 that were okay presented? 816 00:37:10,665 --> 00:37:12,765 And Jonathan, I don't know if you, 817 00:37:13,315 --> 00:37:14,525 That was what I was gonna mention 818 00:37:14,745 --> 00:37:19,445 Can respond to About the fact that every census that, 819 00:37:19,475 --> 00:37:21,965 that the, the trustee area, uh, lines, 820 00:37:22,125 --> 00:37:24,405 I believe are reviewed after every census. 821 00:37:24,495 --> 00:37:25,495 Isn't that correct? 822 00:37:26,305 --> 00:37:30,565 Yes. So, um, essentially when the 2030 census comes out, 823 00:37:30,965 --> 00:37:33,925 sometime in 2031, there'll be a window for the district, 824 00:37:34,035 --> 00:37:35,525 like every other municipality 825 00:37:35,585 --> 00:37:37,325 who has this, uh, type of system. 826 00:37:37,785 --> 00:37:40,445 Um, there's a process outlined in the election code for how 827 00:37:40,445 --> 00:37:42,205 to go about reviewing and making adjustments 828 00:37:42,205 --> 00:37:45,285 or changes to it so that you can get back into balance. 829 00:37:45,285 --> 00:37:46,765 There's, um, a bit more 830 00:37:46,925 --> 00:37:49,805 to it in 2031 than there was in 2021. 831 00:37:49,805 --> 00:37:51,325 The law changed kind of in between. 832 00:37:51,825 --> 00:37:56,005 Um, but essentially, um, this map when, when drawn 833 00:37:56,145 --> 00:37:59,365 and adopted will be good until the next census is released, 834 00:37:59,785 --> 00:38:01,005 and then there'll be a shorter 835 00:38:01,105 --> 00:38:03,165 but similar process for, um, 836 00:38:03,585 --> 00:38:05,925 having the maps be valid for, for 10 years. 837 00:38:05,985 --> 00:38:08,325 And I know that people move in and out all the time, 838 00:38:08,385 --> 00:38:11,565 and that's why the census in terms of total population, 839 00:38:11,565 --> 00:38:14,965 because we're using other data, um, with the CVAP data, 840 00:38:15,025 --> 00:38:18,165 but the census population, it's the acceptable data 841 00:38:18,165 --> 00:38:20,405 for total population because you're never gonna get on the 842 00:38:20,405 --> 00:38:23,365 nose the exact number of people on any given day, week, 843 00:38:23,565 --> 00:38:25,685 month, year, uh, between censuses. 844 00:38:25,705 --> 00:38:29,165 And so it's what is accepted, um, for congressional maps 845 00:38:29,165 --> 00:38:32,085 and other things, um, for how many people live where, 846 00:38:32,195 --> 00:38:34,525 even if it's not perfectly accurate the day 847 00:38:34,525 --> 00:38:35,765 after the census is taken. 848 00:38:36,265 --> 00:38:38,565 Um, but the citizen voting age population data 849 00:38:38,835 --> 00:38:42,085 that is on a five year rolling average from the census 850 00:38:42,195 --> 00:38:44,685 through its American Community Survey, um, 851 00:38:44,755 --> 00:38:45,845 it's a bit of a lag. 852 00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:48,645 So it's 2019 to 2023 right now. 853 00:38:48,985 --> 00:38:50,565 Um, but that is where we're getting those 854 00:38:51,075 --> 00:38:52,885 protected class percentages from 855 00:38:52,905 --> 00:38:54,405 and where those locations are. 856 00:38:54,865 --> 00:38:57,965 Um, but we, we can't just kind of go 857 00:38:57,965 --> 00:38:59,365 by the updated estimates 858 00:38:59,365 --> 00:39:01,565 because they're not accurate necessarily 859 00:39:01,585 --> 00:39:03,205 to the total population per the census. 860 00:39:03,385 --> 00:39:05,845 So if we, if we think, you know, 861 00:39:05,995 --> 00:39:10,725 that next year a 50,000 apartment complex is gonna be put 862 00:39:10,755 --> 00:39:13,525 into Orinda, we can't factor that in 863 00:39:13,715 --> 00:39:17,125 because it's gonna fill off our population balance now it'll 864 00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:18,845 be factored in in 2031. 865 00:39:19,305 --> 00:39:22,405 Um, some of the other questions on each trustee area map, 866 00:39:22,705 --> 00:39:26,125 yes, the protected class breakdown per trustee area will be, 867 00:39:26,425 --> 00:39:29,365 um, a, a part of the presentation and release on online. 868 00:39:29,985 --> 00:39:31,765 Um, not sure about income. 869 00:39:31,795 --> 00:39:33,445 I'll, I'll hand that off to David in a second, 870 00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:34,965 but some of the other comments were great. 871 00:39:35,305 --> 00:39:37,565 Um, yeah, Rossmore is gonna be 40 to 50% 872 00:39:37,565 --> 00:39:39,325 of a trustee area if the board wants 873 00:39:39,325 --> 00:39:40,765 to keep it in one trustee area. 874 00:39:41,545 --> 00:39:44,365 Um, some other suggestions that we continue to hear 875 00:39:44,895 --> 00:39:47,405 elementary school attendance areas, you know, 876 00:39:47,405 --> 00:39:48,405 to the extent possible. 877 00:39:48,495 --> 00:39:51,565 Again, they may not line up with census blocks, um, 878 00:39:51,565 --> 00:39:53,165 and they all varying populations, 879 00:39:53,185 --> 00:39:56,325 but to the extent that, um, you know, a decision has 880 00:39:56,325 --> 00:39:58,165 to be made on getting population balance, 881 00:39:58,635 --> 00:40:01,565 that might be a place to look for, you know, grouping one 882 00:40:01,565 --> 00:40:02,685 or the other with, you know, 883 00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:04,285 the neighborhood of the or west. 884 00:40:04,905 --> 00:40:07,285 Um, this real great suggestions. 885 00:40:07,305 --> 00:40:10,245 And I think that, um, you know, in the abstract, it's, 886 00:40:10,425 --> 00:40:12,285 you know, it's, it's, it's complicated 887 00:40:12,305 --> 00:40:14,845 and we're, we're, it's all hypothetical and I think that 888 00:40:14,845 --> 00:40:17,045 after, um, David's kind of first round 889 00:40:17,045 --> 00:40:20,325 of maps come out next week, uh, we can then look at that, 890 00:40:20,325 --> 00:40:21,525 figure out why they look like the way 891 00:40:21,525 --> 00:40:22,965 that they're gonna look, and then kind of work through 892 00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:24,245 what we wanna see change to it. 893 00:40:29,695 --> 00:40:31,145 Okay. Thank you. 894 00:40:31,245 --> 00:40:34,145 So I guess I would, I would add to that, Jonathan, I, 895 00:40:34,195 --> 00:40:38,745 there was a question about income or languages. 896 00:40:39,125 --> 00:40:41,665 The, the American Community Survey, 897 00:40:41,725 --> 00:40:42,825 and I haven't looked for a while, 898 00:40:42,825 --> 00:40:45,625 but they published things more routine on that. 899 00:40:46,325 --> 00:40:48,185 Um, the reason we don't include it 900 00:40:48,185 --> 00:40:50,825 as our data tables is we found over the years people get 901 00:40:50,825 --> 00:40:51,825 lost in the weeds. 902 00:40:52,275 --> 00:40:53,425 We've had situations 903 00:40:53,425 --> 00:40:56,185 where people wanna claim homeowners versus renters 904 00:40:56,965 --> 00:40:59,185 or, you know, a community of interest. 905 00:40:59,685 --> 00:41:03,905 Um, you get age, I think, information, uh, 906 00:41:04,525 --> 00:41:07,865 income, uh, with employment. 907 00:41:08,525 --> 00:41:10,185 And so it's a lot of data we have 908 00:41:10,185 --> 00:41:11,625 to sift through and, and code. 909 00:41:11,625 --> 00:41:14,665 Whereas if somebody says, Hey, we want you to take care of, 910 00:41:14,845 --> 00:41:18,905 uh, the area where one Vista Elementary serves, 911 00:41:19,255 --> 00:41:22,185 then we might likely encompass all of that 912 00:41:22,845 --> 00:41:24,945 in a map based on feedback here. 913 00:41:25,525 --> 00:41:27,225 Um, similarly languages and, 914 00:41:27,245 --> 00:41:30,065 and I'm loathed to make any kind of generalizations, 915 00:41:30,125 --> 00:41:34,525 but we've had people say in other situations, we want people 916 00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:38,085 that all speak, uh, Spanish in one area. 917 00:41:38,265 --> 00:41:41,285 And, and more often than not, that is an area 918 00:41:41,285 --> 00:41:43,805 where the citizen voting age population estimates, 919 00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:44,965 where her Hispanics are, 920 00:41:44,965 --> 00:41:47,645 and the various Asian languages as well, uh, 921 00:41:47,655 --> 00:41:50,805 often are represented by the citizen voting age population. 922 00:41:50,905 --> 00:41:52,765 Not always, and people move, 923 00:41:53,385 --> 00:41:58,165 but we could probably get, uh, languages spoken or income, 924 00:41:58,305 --> 00:42:00,605 but I wouldn't wanna derail the process 925 00:42:00,785 --> 00:42:03,365 by have people focusing on that when there's so many other, 926 00:42:04,025 --> 00:42:08,045 um, you know, priorities that we're trying to do 927 00:42:08,145 --> 00:42:09,205 to accomplish that. 928 00:42:09,265 --> 00:42:12,365 And, and if it can be achieved by feedback such 929 00:42:12,365 --> 00:42:14,605 as keep Ross Barne in one area or split it up 930 00:42:14,625 --> 00:42:17,365 or keep, you know, the area, uh, 931 00:42:18,705 --> 00:42:21,405 around Buena Vista and downtown Walnut Creek in one area, 932 00:42:22,105 --> 00:42:24,925 we would probably do that based on feedback anyway, 933 00:42:24,925 --> 00:42:27,965 without having to, um, get that additional data 934 00:42:27,965 --> 00:42:30,565 that we traditionally don't put in the back of our maps. 935 00:42:30,565 --> 00:42:33,885 We have, uh, citizen voting age, we have population, 936 00:42:33,985 --> 00:42:36,045 we have, um, accounts 937 00:42:36,265 --> 00:42:38,965 and a whole host of data signed with the maps anyway. 938 00:42:39,145 --> 00:42:42,005 So, um, if, if the board 939 00:42:42,065 --> 00:42:44,125 so wishes we can include more information, 940 00:42:44,665 --> 00:42:46,685 it could take longer. 941 00:42:46,965 --> 00:42:49,205 I don't know if we'd get it in time for this first round 942 00:42:49,205 --> 00:42:52,005 of maps, but we can certainly look into getting that if that 943 00:42:52,585 --> 00:42:54,885 is an absolute necessity that people wanna see 944 00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:56,725 or they, they feel that that's necessary 945 00:42:56,745 --> 00:42:57,845 for them to make a decision. 946 00:43:03,225 --> 00:43:07,885 All right. So members of the board, thoughts, 947 00:43:08,165 --> 00:43:09,485 questions, requests, 948 00:43:14,545 --> 00:43:17,725 Um, I'd like to request a map 949 00:43:17,815 --> 00:43:20,005 where rossmore is intact, 950 00:43:20,305 --> 00:43:24,805 but we go to the largest area we can, 951 00:43:26,195 --> 00:43:30,365 meaning adding that 10% so that you have 952 00:43:31,805 --> 00:43:34,885 a, a constituency that is not 953 00:43:35,785 --> 00:43:40,405 solely rossmore to make it a competitive, um, 954 00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:43,485 not only competitive to find candidates, 955 00:43:43,585 --> 00:43:46,525 but competitive for a candidate to be successful. 956 00:43:47,185 --> 00:43:51,805 So if we make the area with Ross more intact, 957 00:43:51,815 --> 00:43:54,005 which I think it should be, I think it needs 958 00:43:54,065 --> 00:43:59,005 to be a large area just to make sure that, um, 959 00:43:59,345 --> 00:44:03,725 we get some robust bus competition, if you will, 960 00:44:03,725 --> 00:44:05,525 within the constituents pool, 961 00:44:06,185 --> 00:44:10,845 and that either group could vote their candidate of choice 962 00:44:11,025 --> 00:44:13,885 and have the potential for being successful. 963 00:44:14,825 --> 00:44:16,725 And just to make sure that I, I'm understanding, so 964 00:44:17,515 --> 00:44:21,005 when we talk about the average being 23,808, 965 00:44:21,065 --> 00:44:25,165 but with the variance, um, essentially you, you'd like 966 00:44:25,165 --> 00:44:27,925 to see whatever map has rossmore in it, that 967 00:44:27,925 --> 00:44:31,005 that particular trustee area, um, sorry, 968 00:44:31,285 --> 00:44:32,885 whatever trustee area has ro in it, that 969 00:44:32,885 --> 00:44:36,325 that one be the most populous of that particular amount. 970 00:44:36,325 --> 00:44:38,445 Correct. So potentially I think we could go up 971 00:44:38,445 --> 00:44:40,645 to 26,000 people, um, 972 00:44:40,645 --> 00:44:43,885 within the 10% variance, or not 973 00:44:44,275 --> 00:44:45,275 Five. Yeah, it's, it's 974 00:44:45,275 --> 00:44:46,645 up 5%. Yeah. 975 00:44:46,645 --> 00:44:48,925 It's between the largest and the smallest. 976 00:44:49,425 --> 00:44:52,525 So, um, it's, it might not be up to 26,000, 977 00:44:52,525 --> 00:44:55,485 but it, it could potentially be about 25 or so, 978 00:44:55,485 --> 00:44:57,565 and the other ones would be a little bit lower than 20. 979 00:44:58,065 --> 00:45:01,845 I'd just like to see it be competitive so that I, if you, 980 00:45:01,845 --> 00:45:03,525 there are no sides in Walnut Creek, 981 00:45:03,665 --> 00:45:06,285 but if you had a Rossmore candidate 982 00:45:06,285 --> 00:45:08,165 and you had a non rossmore candidate, 983 00:45:08,435 --> 00:45:11,205 they had equal footing within the voting process, 984 00:45:11,885 --> 00:45:13,205 I guess is what I'd like to say. 985 00:45:13,955 --> 00:45:18,645 Okay. Um, and then I do support the idea 986 00:45:18,835 --> 00:45:22,205 that if one community of interest has, 987 00:45:23,595 --> 00:45:25,925 even though we're, we know we're not gonna get 988 00:45:26,225 --> 00:45:27,605 to minority majorities, 989 00:45:28,105 --> 00:45:32,685 but if they have a preponderance of a unique group, 990 00:45:33,365 --> 00:45:35,845 I wanna be really careful that we're not forcing 991 00:45:36,195 --> 00:45:40,965 that dilution by adding a group that is completely opposite. 992 00:45:42,065 --> 00:45:45,565 So I think, in my opinion, I'd like 993 00:45:45,565 --> 00:45:49,845 to see us really focus on the elementary, um, 994 00:45:50,025 --> 00:45:52,045 and the town communities 995 00:45:52,385 --> 00:45:56,765 and make multiple high schools secondary 996 00:45:57,825 --> 00:46:01,645 to representing the cont constituency of an area. 997 00:46:02,865 --> 00:46:05,765 Um, I think that it's noble to think 998 00:46:05,765 --> 00:46:09,525 that multiple high schools will help the process, 999 00:46:10,345 --> 00:46:13,605 but I think we need to focus first on the people. 1000 00:46:14,425 --> 00:46:16,565 Um, and then whether it's convenient 1001 00:46:16,705 --> 00:46:18,925 to add two high schools to the mix. 1002 00:46:19,725 --> 00:46:22,925 I, and, 1003 00:46:22,925 --> 00:46:26,165 and then I just wanna clarify that the data sets 1004 00:46:26,385 --> 00:46:29,445 to be used can only come from the census, 1005 00:46:30,305 --> 00:46:32,245 or can they come from other places? 1006 00:46:33,755 --> 00:46:34,965 They can come from other places. 1007 00:46:35,225 --> 00:46:38,445 The total population data, the, the, how do we get each area 1008 00:46:38,545 --> 00:46:40,765 to be about 23,800? 1009 00:46:41,145 --> 00:46:42,685 That's from the census. Mm-hmm. 1010 00:46:42,915 --> 00:46:45,845 Then we look at the citizen voting age population data, 1011 00:46:45,865 --> 00:46:48,485 that's the five year rolling average through the census. 1012 00:46:48,945 --> 00:46:50,045 That's when we're looking at 1013 00:46:50,045 --> 00:46:52,285 where are the protected classes in the district? 1014 00:46:52,305 --> 00:46:54,045 Are they concentrated? Um, 1015 00:46:54,585 --> 00:46:56,045 we can look at other data as well. 1016 00:46:56,185 --> 00:46:57,485 It doesn't have to come from the census. 1017 00:46:58,045 --> 00:47:00,485 I, I think that there was, um, one of the comments 1018 00:47:00,485 --> 00:47:02,085 that I didn't, I didn't share this, 1019 00:47:02,585 --> 00:47:04,205 but now that I'm just kind of rereading it all, 1020 00:47:04,235 --> 00:47:06,725 someone suggested something about, you know, 1021 00:47:06,725 --> 00:47:09,565 that the district kind of has its own data about, say, 1022 00:47:09,845 --> 00:47:11,685 families and languages spoken at home, for example. 1023 00:47:11,795 --> 00:47:13,085 That that could be helpful, 1024 00:47:13,505 --> 00:47:17,645 but it also doesn't encompass the entire 119,000 people. 1025 00:47:18,185 --> 00:47:22,045 And so, um, I I think it's unlikely there'll be a scenario 1026 00:47:22,045 --> 00:47:25,485 where you're making a map decision based on that data, uh, 1027 00:47:25,485 --> 00:47:27,565 of where a line should be drawn specifically. 1028 00:47:27,625 --> 00:47:30,285 But, uh, to the extent that we, you know, can look at some 1029 00:47:30,285 --> 00:47:32,365 of that stuff, we can, I think that's what David was trying 1030 00:47:32,365 --> 00:47:34,765 to say about not getting too deep into the weeds, 1031 00:47:34,765 --> 00:47:37,765 because at the end of the day, we're looking at about 24,000 1032 00:47:37,765 --> 00:47:39,845 people per area and some of these other factors 1033 00:47:39,865 --> 00:47:43,645 and where these airplane view lines can be drawn and, 1034 00:47:43,645 --> 00:47:47,045 and are we really gonna make a decision of, well, okay, 1035 00:47:47,265 --> 00:47:49,165 but you know, the next street has more renters, 1036 00:47:49,165 --> 00:47:50,405 so let's cut the line here. 1037 00:47:50,655 --> 00:47:52,725 We're probably not gonna get that deep into it, 1038 00:47:52,985 --> 00:47:54,325 but if we need to, we can. 1039 00:47:55,075 --> 00:47:58,285 Yeah. I think, um, everyone's just concerned 1040 00:47:58,285 --> 00:48:01,565 that when you have such a low percentage 1041 00:48:01,565 --> 00:48:02,605 of protected classes, 1042 00:48:03,465 --> 00:48:05,845 how do you offer them any kind of protection? 1043 00:48:06,545 --> 00:48:10,565 So if we're really gonna embody the essence of the law, 1044 00:48:10,705 --> 00:48:12,725 how do we get as close to it as we can? 1045 00:48:16,165 --> 00:48:18,485 I understand. Okay. Okay. 1046 00:48:19,045 --> 00:48:20,845 I think that was my list. David, 1047 00:48:20,845 --> 00:48:21,885 Are you good with that? 1048 00:48:22,095 --> 00:48:24,525 Thank you. Yeah. Okay. 1049 00:48:25,865 --> 00:48:29,645 Um, I think I still very strongly feel that at the end 1050 00:48:29,645 --> 00:48:31,285 of the day, we're here to serve the students. 1051 00:48:31,945 --> 00:48:35,765 Um, and creating any kinda silo is just goes against that. 1052 00:48:36,685 --> 00:48:38,805 I remain strongly believer 1053 00:48:38,805 --> 00:48:42,285 that I think whatever trustee area we create should have, 1054 00:48:42,545 --> 00:48:45,325 should not just silo one high school in it. 1055 00:48:45,705 --> 00:48:49,685 Um, it should cover, uh, more than one, because 1056 00:48:49,755 --> 00:48:52,885 otherwise you're just creating a silo of that one school 1057 00:48:52,945 --> 00:48:57,925 and that trustee has, um, you know, um, sort of, um, 1058 00:48:57,925 --> 00:49:02,365 their own kind, um, incentive, whatever, 1059 00:49:02,785 --> 00:49:04,605 um, that could be. 1060 00:49:04,785 --> 00:49:08,045 But I just would like to really see that we, we, 1061 00:49:08,105 --> 00:49:11,845 we don't kind of, um, corner ourself into that situation. 1062 00:49:13,565 --> 00:49:17,335 Okay. Thank you. Um, 1063 00:49:18,325 --> 00:49:22,295 basically, uh, this is not necessarily input so much as, um, 1064 00:49:22,405 --> 00:49:25,335 sort of reflect reflection, looking at the sets of things. 1065 00:49:26,075 --> 00:49:29,575 Um, this is, this is primarily a numeric 1066 00:49:30,895 --> 00:49:33,015 distribution that needs to be geographic 1067 00:49:33,205 --> 00:49:35,575 because we have to have trusty areas 1068 00:49:35,605 --> 00:49:38,415 with within type population numbers, 1069 00:49:39,115 --> 00:49:40,895 and the areas have to be contiguous. 1070 00:49:41,555 --> 00:49:46,015 So whatever other factors we're talking about, they have 1071 00:49:46,015 --> 00:49:48,135 to be driven by, by those, those sets of things. 1072 00:49:48,355 --> 00:49:51,895 And while we tend to think of our areas, the various, 1073 00:49:52,115 --> 00:49:54,215 you know, high schools or the various cities 1074 00:49:54,315 --> 00:49:57,855 or the various schools, we also have to take recognize 1075 00:49:57,855 --> 00:50:02,335 that our population is not spread in some sense 1076 00:50:02,485 --> 00:50:07,455 equally across our attendance area, that a larger percentage 1077 00:50:07,455 --> 00:50:09,455 of our population is in the eastern part 1078 00:50:09,725 --> 00:50:10,775 than the western part. 1079 00:50:10,915 --> 00:50:13,855 And so there may be some different considerations 1080 00:50:13,855 --> 00:50:17,175 that you have to take into, into account because of that. 1081 00:50:17,755 --> 00:50:21,655 So, you know, I think that all of the perspectives are, 1082 00:50:21,995 --> 00:50:24,535 are interesting worthy to, to, to go into the process, 1083 00:50:24,755 --> 00:50:26,855 but when you start to actually look at numbers, 1084 00:50:27,985 --> 00:50:31,605 you're gonna, you know, start to to, to come across, um, uh, 1085 00:50:31,605 --> 00:50:35,165 certain sort of truths as it were, as to, um, where some 1086 00:50:35,165 --> 00:50:36,805 of the, uh, where some 1087 00:50:36,805 --> 00:50:38,925 of the trustee areas will, will need to be. 1088 00:50:38,925 --> 00:50:41,605 And we'll, I think all of us, we are not drawing the maps. 1089 00:50:41,945 --> 00:50:45,805 We are, we're waiting to see what what will come up as well. 1090 00:50:46,345 --> 00:50:49,645 Um, so I think it's, it's one of those, um, we, 1091 00:50:49,705 --> 00:50:50,765 we will, I'm sure. 1092 00:50:50,795 --> 00:50:54,565 Well, I mean, I know, I know from across the board, um, 1093 00:50:55,305 --> 00:50:57,765 the desire is not to split anything. 1094 00:50:58,585 --> 00:51:01,805 The desire is to put together things trustee areas 1095 00:51:02,345 --> 00:51:04,565 by their nature split things. 1096 00:51:05,025 --> 00:51:06,925 So we're, we're fighting, you know, 1097 00:51:06,955 --> 00:51:08,445 that sort of a balancing battle. 1098 00:51:08,545 --> 00:51:11,405 But, um, I'll refer back to something that, um, 1099 00:51:11,685 --> 00:51:14,245 I think Jonathan mentioned in one of the comments that 1100 00:51:15,165 --> 00:51:19,445 I do honestly believe that the most, um, important community 1101 00:51:19,445 --> 00:51:22,445 of interest that there is is the entire district 1102 00:51:23,025 --> 00:51:24,645 and their interest in the students. 1103 00:51:25,785 --> 00:51:28,605 And if you ask across the entire district, 1104 00:51:29,065 --> 00:51:30,125 why do people live here, 1105 00:51:30,945 --> 00:51:34,085 the most common response is for the schools. 1106 00:51:35,025 --> 00:51:37,805 And we will, whatever lines are drawn 1107 00:51:39,315 --> 00:51:40,365 when somebody's elected, 1108 00:51:40,995 --> 00:51:43,245 they're elected for the whole district. 1109 00:51:43,665 --> 00:51:46,005 So I think we should do the best we can, 1110 00:51:46,665 --> 00:51:50,605 but not sort of, you know, die on a line for it, 1111 00:51:50,605 --> 00:51:52,805 because that's not really why we're here. 1112 00:51:53,135 --> 00:51:55,325 We're here for the kids, and we will all be, you know, 1113 00:51:55,325 --> 00:51:56,645 for the students and we will all be here 1114 00:51:56,645 --> 00:51:58,285 for the students for going forward. 1115 00:51:58,705 --> 00:52:00,725 So we will do the best we can. 1116 00:52:01,545 --> 00:52:03,645 But, you know, I think, you know, we just all keep 1117 00:52:03,645 --> 00:52:04,925 that top of mind. 1118 00:52:04,945 --> 00:52:05,945 That's all. 1119 00:52:07,155 --> 00:52:11,605 Okay. Thank you. Um, I have some questions 1120 00:52:12,305 --> 00:52:14,285 and then I have my recommendations. 1121 00:52:14,625 --> 00:52:18,445 Um, can you go through with people, how, 1122 00:52:19,025 --> 00:52:22,125 how do we identify racially who's 1123 00:52:22,125 --> 00:52:24,405 who in the district? 1124 00:52:32,785 --> 00:52:33,915 Like how David Yeah, 1125 00:52:34,155 --> 00:52:36,195 I kind, I kind of view this, oh, sorry, are you asking, 1126 00:52:36,935 --> 00:52:39,795 is this question for how the district calculates 1127 00:52:39,795 --> 00:52:42,235 or how, like, for example, on the slide is calculated, 1128 00:52:43,175 --> 00:52:44,955 How on the slide is it calculated? 1129 00:52:45,145 --> 00:52:47,915 Like is that based on self-report 1130 00:52:48,215 --> 00:52:52,575 or is it based on what dataset? 1131 00:52:54,375 --> 00:52:58,475 So this is a five year rolling average 1132 00:52:59,855 --> 00:53:02,555 of your population based on the census data. 1133 00:53:03,735 --> 00:53:05,675 And a division of the census known 1134 00:53:05,675 --> 00:53:08,635 as the American Community Survey comes up 1135 00:53:08,635 --> 00:53:13,475 with these estimates of citizens of voting age 1136 00:53:13,735 --> 00:53:14,795 and their population. 1137 00:53:15,615 --> 00:53:18,915 So it's an estimate of those 18 1138 00:53:18,915 --> 00:53:22,595 and over who are citizens within each of the categories 1139 00:53:22,695 --> 00:53:23,995 as defined by the census. 1140 00:53:25,185 --> 00:53:26,725 And it's a five year rolling average. 1141 00:53:27,545 --> 00:53:30,045 Uh, and that's why they do these five year averages 1142 00:53:30,045 --> 00:53:32,005 and they release 'em kind of late every year, 1143 00:53:32,585 --> 00:53:35,925 and they do, uh, mail-in surveys, phone calls, 1144 00:53:36,225 --> 00:53:40,885 and they try to narrow down what the likely estimate is 1145 00:53:41,505 --> 00:53:45,045 of those in this population demographic for the census 1146 00:53:45,825 --> 00:53:48,845 of who's a citizen and who's a voting age. 1147 00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:55,215 So this number 87,571 at the bottom 1148 00:53:56,155 --> 00:53:59,335 is what they're estimating your total population is from the 1149 00:53:59,335 --> 00:54:03,815 census of those 119,000 that took the census in 2020, 1150 00:54:04,795 --> 00:54:09,055 um, of where they fall in each category. 1151 00:54:09,915 --> 00:54:12,455 And it would be those who are citizens 1152 00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:14,215 and who are of voting age. 1153 00:54:15,075 --> 00:54:17,535 And so this is the number we use to ensure there's no 1154 00:54:18,075 --> 00:54:20,855 disenfranchisement of protected classes or cracking 1155 00:54:21,015 --> 00:54:22,175 and packing of any areas. 1156 00:54:23,155 --> 00:54:24,735 Is it perfect? Nothing is perfect. 1157 00:54:25,435 --> 00:54:28,655 Is it done in a professional manner 1158 00:54:28,875 --> 00:54:30,335 by a division of the census? 1159 00:54:30,675 --> 00:54:31,935 Yes. Uh, 1160 00:54:32,155 --> 00:54:36,135 and it also takes into account, you know, the fact 1161 00:54:36,135 --> 00:54:38,175 that demographics, people move, 1162 00:54:38,235 --> 00:54:40,095 people come in, people leave. 1163 00:54:40,835 --> 00:54:44,695 Um, so it's, it's a widely accepted, uh, 1164 00:54:45,405 --> 00:54:47,815 component that the census releases 1165 00:54:47,815 --> 00:54:50,735 through the American Community Survey to ensure 1166 00:54:50,735 --> 00:54:53,815 that you're not, uh, disenfranchising anyone. 1167 00:54:55,405 --> 00:55:00,375 Okay. So, um, and I know you didn't create this system, 1168 00:55:00,955 --> 00:55:04,655 but it does sound like it automatically excludes immigrants, 1169 00:55:06,465 --> 00:55:07,965 people who are not citizens 1170 00:55:10,065 --> 00:55:11,925 For citizen voting age population 1171 00:55:12,355 --> 00:55:17,165 that is not taken into account for, um, for 1172 00:55:17,745 --> 00:55:19,645 the, uh, CVAP data, 1173 00:55:19,865 --> 00:55:22,005 but it, I believe it is for the census data, 1174 00:55:22,025 --> 00:55:23,245 the total population data. 1175 00:55:23,745 --> 00:55:27,205 So when, when you're running the race racial, um, numbers 1176 00:55:27,505 --> 00:55:30,445 for drawing the maps, is that coming from the census 1177 00:55:30,625 --> 00:55:32,045 or the, the CVAP? 1178 00:55:34,365 --> 00:55:35,625 It, it's both. The, 1179 00:55:35,625 --> 00:55:37,425 the total population comes from the census. 1180 00:55:37,565 --> 00:55:39,065 The C VAP data comes from here, 1181 00:55:39,125 --> 00:55:41,865 but like, just to, to give an example, like, um, 1182 00:55:42,355 --> 00:55:45,745 based on CVAP, just looking at the, um, Asian population, 1183 00:55:46,045 --> 00:55:47,585 you know, 11,000 or so, 1184 00:55:47,645 --> 00:55:51,425 or 12 ish percent, if we go up to the, the total population 1185 00:55:51,425 --> 00:55:56,385 for the district, um, is actually 18,000 and it's 15%. 1186 00:55:56,965 --> 00:55:59,985 Um, and so, um, it, again, it, 1187 00:56:00,005 --> 00:56:02,025 it doesn't always correlate exactly the same. 1188 00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:03,625 There's some, some variation to it. 1189 00:56:04,005 --> 00:56:07,905 Um, this is more David's, uh, game than mine. 1190 00:56:07,925 --> 00:56:09,385 No, but am I answering this appropriately, David, 1191 00:56:09,405 --> 00:56:11,105 or am I explaining it? Yeah, the, 1192 00:56:11,125 --> 00:56:15,345 The, this, this table, the census, those 1193 00:56:15,365 --> 00:56:19,185 who took responded to the census in 2020, this is used 1194 00:56:19,245 --> 00:56:22,705 to ensure that each area is roughly equal population wise. 1195 00:56:23,395 --> 00:56:26,285 There's no concern over who's 18 or over. 1196 00:56:26,355 --> 00:56:31,005 There's no questions about, um, whether they're gonna move 1197 00:56:31,145 --> 00:56:32,885 or are they gonna move in the area 1198 00:56:33,065 --> 00:56:34,885 and asking an adjacent neighborhoods 1199 00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:37,005 outside your district if they're gonna move in your area. 1200 00:56:37,215 --> 00:56:40,165 These are just the people who chose to respond to the census 1201 00:56:40,985 --> 00:56:42,045 as population. 1202 00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:43,285 And it's used to ensure 1203 00:56:43,285 --> 00:56:46,525 that the five trustee areas are equally, uh, 1204 00:56:47,145 --> 00:56:49,365 within the same number population wise, 1205 00:56:50,025 --> 00:56:53,325 but the table that's a citizen voting age population 1206 00:56:53,565 --> 00:56:56,885 estimate, this is the American Community Surveys attempt 1207 00:56:58,065 --> 00:57:01,125 to narrow down who's a citizen from that group 1208 00:57:01,385 --> 00:57:03,645 and who's a voting age population. 1209 00:57:04,905 --> 00:57:08,445 So if you're 15 1210 00:57:09,815 --> 00:57:12,355 and you happen to pick up the phone when they did a survey 1211 00:57:12,535 --> 00:57:16,395 or respond to it, you wouldn't fall within this, uh, 1212 00:57:17,575 --> 00:57:21,075 nor, uh, how they achieve, whether you're a citizen 1213 00:57:21,135 --> 00:57:23,035 or not, is through their own estimations. 1214 00:57:23,255 --> 00:57:24,835 I'm not entirely sure of that, 1215 00:57:24,935 --> 00:57:27,635 but this number is also always different 1216 00:57:28,425 --> 00:57:30,035 than the total population. 1217 00:57:30,895 --> 00:57:32,795 Um, and it's, it's used 1218 00:57:32,795 --> 00:57:37,515 because it's the most, uh, aggregate sum of what 1219 00:57:38,135 --> 00:57:39,555 in a five year rolling average, 1220 00:57:41,105 --> 00:57:43,315 what a population in any area is likely 1221 00:57:43,375 --> 00:57:46,915 to be within those census blocks within your district. 1222 00:57:46,915 --> 00:57:49,555 And I, I should add here on the map, 1223 00:57:49,575 --> 00:57:51,155 you see the different census blocks. 1224 00:57:51,155 --> 00:57:52,635 They're all different shapes and forms. 1225 00:57:53,975 --> 00:57:58,315 Um, these are the smallest unit of possible, 1226 00:57:59,295 --> 00:58:01,035 uh, counts by the US census. 1227 00:58:01,065 --> 00:58:04,915 Sometimes the census has what's called census block groups. 1228 00:58:04,965 --> 00:58:06,435 There are multiple groups of this. 1229 00:58:06,435 --> 00:58:08,475 Sometimes their census tracks, 1230 00:58:08,885 --> 00:58:12,035 oftentimes they cross the district's boundaries 1231 00:58:12,035 --> 00:58:13,115 into another district. 1232 00:58:13,775 --> 00:58:15,955 Um, and I, I believe those are used 1233 00:58:15,955 --> 00:58:17,515 for like congressional districts 1234 00:58:17,515 --> 00:58:19,275 or county supervisors races. 1235 00:58:19,535 --> 00:58:20,755 I'm not entirely sure. 1236 00:58:21,175 --> 00:58:23,515 We don't deal with those size census blocks. 1237 00:58:24,165 --> 00:58:28,115 These are the smallest level of counts that the census does, 1238 00:58:28,285 --> 00:58:29,995 which is highlighted in your district. 1239 00:58:30,415 --> 00:58:32,475 And the census does a really nice thing 1240 00:58:32,715 --> 00:58:36,115 and that they consider a school district's boundaries, uh, 1241 00:58:36,745 --> 00:58:38,675 when they create these census blocks. 1242 00:58:38,695 --> 00:58:40,715 So all the blocks that are counted are within 1243 00:58:40,785 --> 00:58:41,955 your district boundaries. 1244 00:58:42,535 --> 00:58:44,075 And this is just the, 1245 00:58:44,375 --> 00:58:46,675 the data from the California statewide database 1246 00:58:46,675 --> 00:58:49,795 where the citizen voting age population data comes from. 1247 00:58:49,965 --> 00:58:52,675 Again, that's coming from the American Community Survey, 1248 00:58:52,685 --> 00:58:54,755 which is a division of the census to try 1249 00:58:54,755 --> 00:58:56,915 to narrow down the citizens 1250 00:58:56,975 --> 00:58:59,115 and, uh, those of voting age population. 1251 00:59:01,235 --> 00:59:02,845 Okay. Thank you. 1252 00:59:03,345 --> 00:59:05,565 Um, I'm also curious, um, 1253 00:59:07,115 --> 00:59:09,045 this is the part breaks my ba brain a little bit. 1254 00:59:09,105 --> 00:59:12,685 If you actually did have close to majority minority 1255 00:59:12,785 --> 00:59:16,605 and you put them in one trustee area, does that not 1256 00:59:17,675 --> 00:59:18,805 make it, that they don't, 1257 00:59:18,805 --> 00:59:20,805 they're not having a say in the other seats 1258 00:59:21,065 --> 00:59:22,485 and on a board of five, 1259 00:59:22,625 --> 00:59:25,285 if you only have one person representing you, 1260 00:59:25,345 --> 00:59:28,965 you don't really have very much power at the table. 1261 00:59:30,235 --> 00:59:33,645 Like how, how, if we were to go to the, 1262 00:59:33,825 --> 00:59:34,965 you know, I agree with Ms. 1263 00:59:34,965 --> 00:59:38,645 Schweppe, like that's definitely, you know, 1264 00:59:38,675 --> 00:59:39,805 even if it's hard 1265 00:59:40,025 --> 00:59:43,045 and aim for the intent of the law, which is 1266 00:59:43,045 --> 00:59:46,965 to protect historically marginalized folks, um, how do, 1267 00:59:47,425 --> 00:59:52,085 how do you do that mathematically in a way that doesn't, 1268 00:59:52,305 --> 00:59:54,605 you know, like if you group here does, then you're, 1269 00:59:54,605 --> 00:59:56,685 you've taken them away from another area. 1270 00:59:58,365 --> 00:59:59,725 I think that that's a really good question. 1271 00:59:59,825 --> 01:00:01,485 And, and I'll, I'll, I'll try to come up 1272 01:00:01,485 --> 01:00:04,405 with an on the fly hypothetical to, to try to answer it. 1273 01:00:04,505 --> 01:00:06,885 So, um, let's pretend that, um, just 1274 01:00:07,045 --> 01:00:09,205 'cause we're on the Hispanic, uh, see that page, 1275 01:00:09,295 --> 01:00:12,365 let's pretend that this number, instead of being 8.3, 1276 01:00:13,015 --> 01:00:15,605 let's pretend that it was 25%, okay. 1277 01:00:15,605 --> 01:00:20,405 That 25% of the district was, um, Hispanic Latino 1278 01:00:20,505 --> 01:00:23,525 by CBAP in a district wide election. 1279 01:00:23,715 --> 01:00:26,565 Well, that's still a good chunk of population, 1280 01:00:27,065 --> 01:00:28,685 but it's possible that 1281 01:00:28,685 --> 01:00:30,965 that group should they generally vote the same way, 1282 01:00:31,015 --> 01:00:33,405 still may not get somebody elected at large, 1283 01:00:34,545 --> 01:00:36,885 but if they were concentrated 1284 01:00:36,895 --> 01:00:38,125 again, I'm just gonna look here. 1285 01:00:38,125 --> 01:00:40,285 Like, can you guys see my mouse, by the way? I can't tell. 1286 01:00:40,425 --> 01:00:42,445 Can you see it? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. 1287 01:00:42,625 --> 01:00:45,125 So let's just say kind of where my mouse is here. 1288 01:00:45,665 --> 01:00:47,365 I'm assuming that this is a pretty high dense 1289 01:00:47,365 --> 01:00:48,445 population area, David? 1290 01:00:50,035 --> 01:00:51,045 Yeah. Okay. 1291 01:00:51,105 --> 01:00:56,085 So let's say all of this was orange, uh, red, uh, 1292 01:00:56,385 --> 01:01:00,645 maroon, all of this was that, but districtwide it was 25%. 1293 01:01:01,045 --> 01:01:02,365 I would bet that somewhere 1294 01:01:02,365 --> 01:01:05,245 around here you'd have a trustee area created 1295 01:01:05,555 --> 01:01:07,205 because there was a concentration 1296 01:01:07,425 --> 01:01:09,565 and that even though it's 25% districtwide, 1297 01:01:09,585 --> 01:01:14,045 it might be 52% in whatever the 23,000 total people 1298 01:01:14,395 --> 01:01:15,885 that live over here would be. 1299 01:01:16,385 --> 01:01:18,845 And so, yeah, it's only one area, 1300 01:01:19,305 --> 01:01:22,205 but that gives a voice to that community 1301 01:01:22,205 --> 01:01:24,325 that doesn't exist in the at large system 1302 01:01:24,325 --> 01:01:26,485 because you would get out and voted in the at large system. 1303 01:01:27,145 --> 01:01:31,005 That's why the concentrations end up being, to the extent 1304 01:01:31,085 --> 01:01:32,365 that they exist are drawn. 1305 01:01:33,495 --> 01:01:35,215 'cause at large, you might get zero outta five. 1306 01:01:35,275 --> 01:01:37,375 Now you're gonna get one of, of your choice. 1307 01:01:38,995 --> 01:01:42,605 Okay. And then what do you do when you have a trustee area 1308 01:01:42,655 --> 01:01:45,725 where you have, you know, like a, a general area 1309 01:01:45,795 --> 01:01:50,085 that makes sense, but you've got, uh, maybe 1310 01:01:50,675 --> 01:01:52,125 communities of interests 1311 01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:57,125 that are competing in interests. 1312 01:01:58,625 --> 01:02:00,515 Yeah. So like, let me just make up 1313 01:02:00,515 --> 01:02:01,555 a hypothetical with that too. 1314 01:02:01,585 --> 01:02:02,915 I'll go to this map over here. 1315 01:02:03,255 --> 01:02:06,595 Um, I don't know, let's, let's just say, um, 1316 01:02:08,435 --> 01:02:09,935 uh, gosh, what's the best way to do this? 1317 01:02:10,055 --> 01:02:11,175 Again, I'm making this up. 1318 01:02:11,195 --> 01:02:15,335 So, um, let's just say that, um, you know, 1319 01:02:15,335 --> 01:02:18,055 Lafayette Elementary schools attendance area 1320 01:02:18,115 --> 01:02:20,765 for some reason, you know, needed to kind of go 1321 01:02:21,545 --> 01:02:23,005 in some other direction to kind 1322 01:02:23,005 --> 01:02:25,685 of be split up into two different trustee areas, right? 1323 01:02:26,035 --> 01:02:29,085 Well, on one hand, gosh, why should we keep, you know, 1324 01:02:29,885 --> 01:02:32,245 Del Rey together and split up Lafayette Elementary? 1325 01:02:32,405 --> 01:02:34,205 I get that. And ultimately the, 1326 01:02:34,295 --> 01:02:36,405 those are choices the board will have to make 1327 01:02:36,405 --> 01:02:38,605 because we still have to balance the population. 1328 01:02:39,265 --> 01:02:42,485 So it's not gonna be possible to keep every single, 1329 01:02:46,055 --> 01:02:47,475 um, community of interest together. 1330 01:02:47,815 --> 01:02:50,155 Um, a lot of it's gonna depend on the total population 1331 01:02:50,155 --> 01:02:51,475 and the density of that population, which 1332 01:02:52,355 --> 01:02:54,635 somebody said is more kind of in the east. 1333 01:02:54,935 --> 01:02:57,355 So you probably have more compact areas here 1334 01:02:57,695 --> 01:02:59,835 and larger areas here spatially, 1335 01:02:59,835 --> 01:03:01,235 but overall they'll be the same number. 1336 01:03:01,615 --> 01:03:05,395 And somewhere we can't, we can't keep adding to a group if, 1337 01:03:05,395 --> 01:03:08,115 if one, if one, you know, if we get up to here, let's say, 1338 01:03:08,495 --> 01:03:11,475 and that's only 19,000 people, we need 4,000 more people. 1339 01:03:12,055 --> 01:03:13,555 But if, you know, 1340 01:03:13,555 --> 01:03:17,755 if this elementary school has 8,000 people living in it, um, 1341 01:03:18,145 --> 01:03:19,915 well we can't take all eight either. 1342 01:03:19,915 --> 01:03:22,035 That's too many. And so there's some, you know, 1343 01:03:22,325 --> 01:03:24,315 where does it make sense to have those lines? 1344 01:03:24,335 --> 01:03:26,635 It kind of just depends on what you all think, 1345 01:03:26,975 --> 01:03:29,755 but there will definitely be splits that have to be made. 1346 01:03:30,825 --> 01:03:31,875 Okay. Alright. 1347 01:03:32,455 --> 01:03:35,075 And if, I guess my personal opinion is, is if we do have 1348 01:03:35,395 --> 01:03:39,515 to do decisions around splits that we, uh, continue 1349 01:03:39,515 --> 01:03:41,635 to consider the intent of the law and, 1350 01:03:41,815 --> 01:03:43,915 and how that might impact marginalized 1351 01:03:43,915 --> 01:03:45,355 communities in those areas. 1352 01:03:46,475 --> 01:03:50,535 Um, and then so the data sets that we're pulling from, 1353 01:03:50,695 --> 01:03:53,935 I understand some of the community requests are, 1354 01:03:54,155 --> 01:03:58,535 are not gonna show up on the, the census, for example. 1355 01:03:59,475 --> 01:04:03,685 Um, so if, if say there's a 1356 01:04:04,365 --> 01:04:07,205 religious, like say there's a synagogue or a church 1357 01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:08,885 and they say, we're a community of interest, 1358 01:04:08,885 --> 01:04:13,325 but our membership is all around the area, is it kind of up 1359 01:04:13,325 --> 01:04:16,085 to the community to tell you all, oh, 1360 01:04:16,085 --> 01:04:17,965 we have a concentration of people here, 1361 01:04:18,305 --> 01:04:23,125 or is it, um, like how if, if the community says we want you 1362 01:04:23,125 --> 01:04:24,925 to pay attention to a community of interest 1363 01:04:25,465 --> 01:04:28,725 and there's not a, like mountain range keeping it together, 1364 01:04:28,955 --> 01:04:32,925 like how, how would you want the community 1365 01:04:33,025 --> 01:04:37,565 to make kind of more helpful direction and feedback then? 1366 01:04:39,215 --> 01:04:40,455 I think the way the community's 1367 01:04:40,455 --> 01:04:41,535 been doing it has been helpful. 1368 01:04:41,775 --> 01:04:43,655 I think a lot of the emails we received in the comments 1369 01:04:43,685 --> 01:04:45,935 tonight, um, the, the themes 1370 01:04:45,935 --> 01:04:48,615 that I keep hearing are keep Ross more together. 1371 01:04:49,235 --> 01:04:52,695 Um, and also elementary school attendance areas are 1372 01:04:52,695 --> 01:04:53,735 really important to folks. 1373 01:04:54,075 --> 01:04:56,135 And then there's also some thought of, you know, 1374 01:04:56,135 --> 01:04:57,975 splitting up, uh, high school attendance areas. 1375 01:04:58,035 --> 01:05:00,095 And I'm sure David will give kind of a variety of looks 1376 01:05:00,095 --> 01:05:01,415 that combine some of those things. 1377 01:05:01,915 --> 01:05:03,775 Um, but that, that's how we get to know, right? 1378 01:05:03,775 --> 01:05:06,855 We, Ross Moore is now on the map because of that. 1379 01:05:07,475 --> 01:05:11,055 Um, and so, you know, if someone were to say, um, 1380 01:05:11,055 --> 01:05:13,935 like concretely, hey, you know, everybody that lives say, 1381 01:05:14,195 --> 01:05:16,575 you know, south of Reem Boulevard, um, 1382 01:05:16,575 --> 01:05:19,205 and north of Mira Monte High School, that is a community 1383 01:05:19,205 --> 01:05:20,965 of interest and you know, you all go, 1384 01:05:20,965 --> 01:05:22,285 oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 1385 01:05:22,665 --> 01:05:24,525 We would try to keep it together to the extent 1386 01:05:24,525 --> 01:05:26,005 that it worked population wise, 1387 01:05:26,145 --> 01:05:28,565 but again, more important than community 1388 01:05:28,565 --> 01:05:30,285 of interest is balancing the population. 1389 01:05:30,285 --> 01:05:32,685 Community of interest is not that far down the list, 1390 01:05:32,685 --> 01:05:33,685 but is lower than that. 1391 01:05:33,745 --> 01:05:34,925 So some communities 1392 01:05:35,165 --> 01:05:38,525 of interest will automatically just be split, um, 1393 01:05:38,525 --> 01:05:40,165 because we have to balance the population. 1394 01:05:42,215 --> 01:05:44,705 Okay. Sorry, I know I'm asking you a lot of questions, 1395 01:05:44,845 --> 01:05:47,745 but this is ours before we do the maps. 1396 01:05:47,845 --> 01:05:48,905 Um, all right. 1397 01:05:48,905 --> 01:05:52,185 So is there some of my requests, I guess are around, um, 1398 01:05:53,925 --> 01:05:57,785 you know, to get more specific around the intent of the law 1399 01:05:58,045 --> 01:05:59,705 to our particular district. 1400 01:06:00,085 --> 01:06:04,345 Um, I'm, I'm not sure how you might find this information, 1401 01:06:04,645 --> 01:06:08,665 but, um, in our district, one of our goals in our LCAP 1402 01:06:08,685 --> 01:06:13,265 or around our special ed students, um, I really want to 1403 01:06:13,805 --> 01:06:17,065 not also ignore the population in our community 1404 01:06:17,455 --> 01:06:18,665 that understand 1405 01:06:18,925 --> 01:06:21,545 or support the rights of people with disabilities. 1406 01:06:22,685 --> 01:06:25,945 Um, and I would, uh, the reason I mentioned 1407 01:06:25,945 --> 01:06:27,065 that very specifically is 1408 01:06:27,065 --> 01:06:28,585 because this particular board, we make a lot 1409 01:06:28,585 --> 01:06:31,945 of decisions based on our special ed students. 1410 01:06:32,925 --> 01:06:37,225 Um, and, um, I would want to make sure that the community 1411 01:06:37,225 --> 01:06:40,425 that we're making decisions on feel like they are, 1412 01:06:40,735 --> 01:06:42,305 they have a chance at the vote 1413 01:06:42,445 --> 01:06:43,865 and having a voice at the table. 1414 01:06:44,845 --> 01:06:48,445 Um, I would like to also look at income 1415 01:06:49,145 --> 01:06:52,605 and I'm not sure how you might do that or, um, 1416 01:06:53,225 --> 01:06:58,045 but uh, you know, it's, it can very much impact access 1417 01:06:58,185 --> 01:07:02,045 for school districts if you schedule meetings when working 1418 01:07:02,045 --> 01:07:03,805 parents can't be there, for example. 1419 01:07:04,505 --> 01:07:08,565 And so, um, that very much, you know, can impact the access 1420 01:07:08,665 --> 01:07:12,045 to a student, a student's family to have influence 1421 01:07:12,145 --> 01:07:15,885 or have a say or participate in our school communities. 1422 01:07:16,305 --> 01:07:20,525 Um, so I would like you to look at income, um, 1423 01:07:21,265 --> 01:07:21,485 and 1424 01:07:27,495 --> 01:07:31,345 The, You know, folks that are, 1425 01:07:32,285 --> 01:07:35,865 um, I guess folks that are top of mind to me, 1426 01:07:36,135 --> 01:07:40,225 just especially right now, um, are folks 1427 01:07:40,225 --> 01:07:41,825 that are immigrants particularly, 1428 01:07:42,225 --> 01:07:44,625 I mean really any immigrant, any person of color, 1429 01:07:45,165 --> 01:07:49,225 but like, um, you know, uh, 1430 01:07:49,275 --> 01:07:52,025 definitely English not being their first language. 1431 01:07:52,405 --> 01:07:55,145 Um, we do have a very large population in our, 1432 01:07:55,535 --> 01:07:58,345 it's a very big program and it is also part of our lcap 1433 01:07:58,365 --> 01:08:00,625 and I would want our, our board makes very important 1434 01:08:00,905 --> 01:08:02,945 decisions around supporting those students. 1435 01:08:03,885 --> 01:08:06,905 And so, um, that to me is, 1436 01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:09,425 is a very relevant community of interest. 1437 01:08:10,285 --> 01:08:13,265 Um, the, the location of folks 1438 01:08:13,335 --> 01:08:18,085 that really are concerned about lgbtq plus rights is, 1439 01:08:18,225 --> 01:08:23,005 um, uh, obviously I don't, I don't have a map for that, 1440 01:08:23,865 --> 01:08:26,805 but I think regardless of whether you're able 1441 01:08:26,805 --> 01:08:29,285 to find a data set on that, it's just really worth, 1442 01:08:29,375 --> 01:08:34,125 worth noting and acknowledging that, um, that those folks 1443 01:08:34,905 --> 01:08:38,085 and the folks that love them are historically marginalized 1444 01:08:38,215 --> 01:08:42,405 folks that are particularly not feeling safe, um, in this 1445 01:08:43,775 --> 01:08:46,065 community and in the country at large. 1446 01:08:46,325 --> 01:08:50,545 So, um, I just want to make sure that we, um, 1447 01:08:50,545 --> 01:08:53,545 even though we don't have numbers to show the visibility 1448 01:08:53,545 --> 01:08:55,545 of them, that we really as a board, 1449 01:08:56,125 --> 01:08:58,105 as we have in our prior discussions, 1450 01:08:58,135 --> 01:09:00,265 acknowledge the visibility of those folks. 1451 01:09:00,765 --> 01:09:04,185 Um, and I know these just numbers are incomplete, you know, 1452 01:09:04,185 --> 01:09:05,985 with the immigrants, I'm, you know, 1453 01:09:05,985 --> 01:09:10,065 especially if you have a census in 2020, um, 1454 01:09:12,345 --> 01:09:15,355 following 2017, you're, you're just not, you know, 1455 01:09:15,525 --> 01:09:19,515 gonna have a lot of, um, people 1456 01:09:19,615 --> 01:09:20,675 who are not citizens 1457 01:09:20,895 --> 01:09:23,355 or even people who are citizens, they're gonna feel safe 1458 01:09:23,355 --> 01:09:24,555 to identify themselves. 1459 01:09:25,135 --> 01:09:27,195 And certainly if you call, you know, 1460 01:09:27,255 --> 01:09:29,155 asking about citizenship, that's, 1461 01:09:29,155 --> 01:09:30,555 you're gonna get a bit of a scattershot. 1462 01:09:30,825 --> 01:09:33,115 It's not gonna get a perfect data set. 1463 01:09:33,115 --> 01:09:34,715 And that, again, that's not on any of us, 1464 01:09:34,815 --> 01:09:38,875 but just wanna acknowledge that that alone is how some 1465 01:09:38,875 --> 01:09:41,435 of these systemic inequities can occur. 1466 01:09:42,175 --> 01:09:46,755 Um, so with that, I just want to just really, um, 1467 01:09:47,795 --> 01:09:49,315 I know I'm making your job harder, 1468 01:09:49,855 --> 01:09:53,955 but really, uh, reach for as much data as we can find, 1469 01:09:53,955 --> 01:09:57,555 because I think it's pretty, our community is pretty unique 1470 01:09:58,255 --> 01:09:59,275 in its demographics 1471 01:09:59,615 --> 01:10:03,075 and so it requires to do this right, to do it to the intent 1472 01:10:03,075 --> 01:10:05,275 of the law that we really get creative 1473 01:10:05,345 --> 01:10:06,795 with the data that we're pulling. 1474 01:10:07,935 --> 01:10:12,445 So, alright. 1475 01:10:13,035 --> 01:10:15,845 Anybody else have, sorry, I know I took up a lot of time, 1476 01:10:15,905 --> 01:10:19,015 but anybody else have any other thoughts, questions? 1477 01:10:20,825 --> 01:10:24,335 No. Okay. Alright. 1478 01:10:24,515 --> 01:10:26,695 So thank you for all your comments. 1479 01:10:26,875 --> 01:10:29,055 The public hearing to receive public testimony 1480 01:10:29,175 --> 01:10:30,335 concerning the composition 1481 01:10:30,335 --> 01:10:32,855 of potential trustee voting areas is now closed. 1482 01:10:34,435 --> 01:10:36,335 Please note, have a good night. Thank you. 1483 01:10:37,035 --> 01:10:39,655 Please note that the following dates for the upcoming map, 1484 01:10:39,835 --> 01:10:42,935 public hearings are September 3rd at 7 45. 1485 01:10:42,935 --> 01:10:47,735 First map public hearing, September 17th at seven 22nd map, 1486 01:10:47,935 --> 01:10:51,095 public hearing October 15th at seven 20. 1487 01:10:51,365 --> 01:10:53,655 Last map, public hearing and final decision. 1488 01:10:54,355 --> 01:10:55,455 All meetings will be held 1489 01:10:55,455 --> 01:10:56,935 during the regular board meetings 1490 01:10:56,935 --> 01:10:58,055 here at the district office. 1491 01:10:58,585 --> 01:11:00,535 We'll make draft maps available 1492 01:11:00,675 --> 01:11:05,295 to the public no later than August 27th, seven days prior 1493 01:11:05,355 --> 01:11:08,415 to the first public first map public hearing. 1494 01:11:08,475 --> 01:11:11,815 We will also email the maps to our email list at that time. 1495 01:11:14,835 --> 01:11:18,405 Okay. And I, while we're not streaming, 1496 01:11:18,605 --> 01:11:21,165 I think I have a lot of it recorded. 1497 01:11:21,545 --> 01:11:22,965 Um, so we can patch it up 1498 01:11:22,965 --> 01:11:25,965 and hopefully post most of it, uh, tomorrow, 1499 01:11:26,345 --> 01:11:27,885 but certainly the audio we will post. 1500 01:11:28,025 --> 01:11:29,405 So I apologize for that. 1501 01:11:30,115 --> 01:11:33,045 Okay, great. Um, so moving on 1502 01:11:33,045 --> 01:11:35,325 to item number four. Is that correct? 1503 01:11:35,635 --> 01:11:40,005 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, approval. This is the cons. 1504 01:11:40,005 --> 01:11:42,125 Three three. This is just general public comment. 1505 01:11:42,305 --> 01:11:44,965 Oh, right. Which can only be on the, has 1506 01:11:44,965 --> 01:11:46,445 to be on agenda item, so it could only be 1507 01:11:46,445 --> 01:11:48,125 on something on consent. Okay. 1508 01:11:48,785 --> 01:11:52,005 So now is the time for item number three. Announce. 1509 01:11:52,465 --> 01:11:55,925 So public comment to inform the public to, 1510 01:11:56,345 --> 01:11:57,565 oh, sorry, I'm reading. 1511 01:11:58,195 --> 01:11:59,965 It's written kind of funny. Sorry. 1512 01:12:00,545 --> 01:12:03,125 Uh, So now's the time for general public comment. 1513 01:12:03,325 --> 01:12:06,285 I don't see any right cards. I don't see any body. 1514 01:12:06,945 --> 01:12:10,405 So I'm gonna move on to item number four, if that's okay. 1515 01:12:10,915 --> 01:12:14,565 Okay. Um, now's the time for the consent calendar. 1516 01:12:14,885 --> 01:12:16,325 Approval of the consent calendar means 1517 01:12:16,325 --> 01:12:18,245 that all items are approved by single motion 1518 01:12:18,665 --> 01:12:19,885 unless a member of the board 1519 01:12:19,885 --> 01:12:22,365 or the superintendent requests an item be removed from the 1520 01:12:22,365 --> 01:12:24,165 consent calendar voted upon separately. 1521 01:12:24,665 --> 01:12:27,245 Is there a motion to approve the consent calendar items? 1522 01:12:27,355 --> 01:12:29,925 4.02 through 4.07, 1523 01:12:31,065 --> 01:12:34,805 Um, isn't it 4.8 4.08 for field trips? 1524 01:12:36,795 --> 01:12:39,045 This is 4.008. Sorry about that. 1525 01:12:39,805 --> 01:12:41,365 I was gonna say, alright, just wanted, so, 1526 01:12:42,225 --> 01:12:46,285 So 4.02 through 4.08, Correct. 1527 01:12:47,265 --> 01:12:49,445 Um, so moved for 1528 01:12:49,445 --> 01:12:50,445 The, for second. Second. 1529 01:12:50,445 --> 01:12:54,045 And Ms. Wong, do you support the motion? I do. 1530 01:12:54,625 --> 01:12:56,765 All, all those in favor say aye. Aye. 1531 01:12:56,905 --> 01:12:59,485 All those opposed Motion passes. Five zero. 1532 01:13:00,465 --> 01:13:03,725 Um, would like to move to, uh, is 1533 01:13:04,345 --> 01:13:05,885 to item number five. 1534 01:13:06,345 --> 01:13:08,045 Um, adjournment. Adjournment. 1535 01:13:08,745 --> 01:13:10,125 Is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? 1536 01:13:12,185 --> 01:13:13,805 So moved. Is there a second? 1537 01:13:14,145 --> 01:13:17,045 Second. And Ms. Wong, do you support the motion? I do. 1538 01:13:17,705 --> 01:13:20,445 All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed. 1539 01:13:20,945 --> 01:13:24,765 Motion passes. Five zero. Thank you everybody.