1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:50,930 uh 2 00:00:50,940 --> 00:00:53,340 all right so it's three o'clock I'm 3 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:54,600 gonna go ahead and follow the meeting to 4 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,719 order we do have a quorum 5 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:00,539 um so oh perfect commissioner Gold's 6 00:01:00,539 --> 00:01:02,100 coming on now 7 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:04,619 um director do you want to just kind of 8 00:01:04,619 --> 00:01:07,260 like kick things off about just the one 9 00:01:07,260 --> 00:01:09,360 item that we have on 10 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,820 this emergency meeting agenda uh Madam 11 00:01:11,820 --> 00:01:13,260 president thank you Bart happy to 12 00:01:13,260 --> 00:01:15,060 Commissioners again thank you all is 13 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:17,159 commissioner gold on you 14 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:20,340 okay uh thank you all for taking the 15 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:24,299 time as you're well aware last night we 16 00:01:24,299 --> 00:01:25,680 received a call from the neighborhood 17 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,320 indicating there was a sinkhole that was 18 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:31,560 occurring on Lemp Street between streets 19 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,860 20 and 21. it was 20 00:01:34,860 --> 00:01:37,680 not that big team responded immediately 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,640 and started courting off the area 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,040 because it appeared to be getting larger 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,340 uh this uh so everything was set for a 24 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:49,820 safe operation through the night 25 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:51,840 earlier this morning earlier this 26 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,439 morning our team went back out and saw 27 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:57,060 some of the pictures that I've already 28 00:01:57,060 --> 00:01:58,040 sent you 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,240 regarding the uh the uh sinkhole across 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,939 the sport our Engineers 31 00:02:04,939 --> 00:02:07,740 went out we did contact Boise we 32 00:02:07,740 --> 00:02:10,500 contacted the neighborhood and started 33 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:14,400 as in our maintenance teams we did do a 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,900 good assessment on this we have found 35 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:19,500 that this sinkhole is approximately 15 36 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:24,120 feet deep if not longer the pipe that 37 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,580 the drainage system that is in this area 38 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:30,980 was built in the 1970s out of aluminum 39 00:02:30,980 --> 00:02:34,560 and over the years it is apparent that 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,580 the system uh started to fail uh this 41 00:02:38,580 --> 00:02:42,060 week we had that massive rain event uh 42 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:45,360 the the uh the pipes that lead into this 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,840 one going Downstream is about an 18 inch 44 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,200 pipe this one is a larger 30 inch pipe 45 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,599 so as you can imagine this would be 46 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:56,940 similar to the Gold Rush where they 47 00:02:56,940 --> 00:03:01,500 dredged uh uh operations and so uh the 48 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:04,260 entire system got blown out uh there is 49 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:07,440 no remnants left of the pipe itself we 50 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,239 did have our team go out using the 51 00:03:09,239 --> 00:03:11,940 specific technologies that we have to 52 00:03:11,940 --> 00:03:14,280 scope uh what we could scope in this and 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,599 we found is that the uh the system has 54 00:03:18,599 --> 00:03:21,540 completely failed so uh we've been 55 00:03:21,540 --> 00:03:23,340 commissioner Pickering commissioner gold 56 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:24,659 you know we've been in contact with the 57 00:03:24,659 --> 00:03:28,739 mayor on this and so what we are asking 58 00:03:28,739 --> 00:03:31,620 you to do today is to Grant and 59 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:34,200 conditions so we can expend funds under 60 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,459 emergency condition for sole source 61 00:03:37,459 --> 00:03:39,319 contractor 62 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:41,940 recruitment to get these things fixed 63 00:03:41,940 --> 00:03:44,519 and the estimated cost that we're 64 00:03:44,519 --> 00:03:47,159 looking at right now is between 300 000 65 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:52,140 and 350 000 we believe this may take uh 66 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:56,159 uh up to two weeks we have already I've 67 00:03:56,159 --> 00:04:00,420 already closed uh limp from 20 to 21 and 68 00:04:00,420 --> 00:04:02,819 we have put up barricades on that 69 00:04:02,819 --> 00:04:05,720 Alleyway that accesses lamp 70 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,159 and such and you'll have a video a 71 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,260 visual of that here and 72 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:14,280 okay to ensure safe operations we have 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 already started a coordination process 74 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,540 with all the key players out on the 75 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:21,239 neighborhood but uh Republic Service all 76 00:04:21,239 --> 00:04:22,680 the folks will be servicing that area 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,080 and our maintenance teams right now are 78 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,139 actually filling the whole uh back in 79 00:04:28,139 --> 00:04:30,720 with gravel as quickly as possible to 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,460 prevent any more degradation of the 81 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:35,340 infrastructure but the same token to 82 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:36,139 keep 83 00:04:36,139 --> 00:04:39,060 lookings out from getting too close and 84 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:43,320 then falling in or having any more uh 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,139 stress put on that infrastructure so 86 00:04:46,139 --> 00:04:49,860 again the the request is for you to 87 00:04:49,860 --> 00:04:53,880 grant that emergency uh uh opportunity 88 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,180 for us to go sole source and if you do 89 00:04:57,180 --> 00:04:58,919 that we'll immediately start reaching 90 00:04:58,919 --> 00:05:02,040 out to the key contractors to see how 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,620 quickly we can respond and get this 92 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:07,500 fixed I do have general counsel in the 93 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:10,880 building here I do have communications 94 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,720 uh development Technical Services and I 95 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,340 here in case you have any specific 96 00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:20,759 questions for them so Madam president 97 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:23,100 that's my request and that's why we're 98 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:23,940 here 99 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:25,380 thanks director Commissioners 100 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:27,000 commissioner McKinney 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,800 uh yeah let me just ask a couple of 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,500 questions um director what is our 103 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:35,520 confidence level as far as uh uh how 104 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,840 confident are we that once we start 105 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,780 digging and looking into it that we 106 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:41,639 won't find that the damage is a lot more 107 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:43,740 than we think that is to say how 108 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:45,539 confident are we that we know the extent 109 00:05:45,539 --> 00:05:47,340 of the damage at this point as opposed 110 00:05:47,340 --> 00:05:48,960 to we start digging and then discover 111 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,720 that oh this is twice a big twice as big 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,400 of a job as we thought and we'll have to 113 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,740 come back again and do this again soon 114 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:57,720 Madam president commissioner McKinney 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 great question uh fortunately we do have 116 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,220 a project that was ongoing that was 117 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:05,520 going to address uh a similar situation 118 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,039 a little further down our team has used 119 00:06:08,039 --> 00:06:10,680 the technology that we have here to 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,500 assess that damage right now we we 121 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:15,419 initially thought that we could do some 122 00:06:15,419 --> 00:06:17,639 type of spot repair and then come back 123 00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:20,160 later and then so I understand it's 124 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,680 called sleeting it uh to provide more 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,199 strength 126 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:26,639 we're confident we have to replace the 127 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:29,280 whole uh the whole system or about 300 128 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:32,460 feet worth now that being said as we all 129 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:35,940 know when you open up the roadway 130 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:38,580 there may be more surprises there but we 131 00:06:38,580 --> 00:06:40,680 believe that this will give this will 132 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,500 fix this issue again uh I'm not going to 133 00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:45,840 give you 100 on that to say when we get 134 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,699 Downstream and we continue to move 135 00:06:47,699 --> 00:06:50,340 forward we may find more issues if we do 136 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:53,280 I'll come back to the commission and uh 137 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,539 make sure I'll make sure you have an 138 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:56,699 update we have to go for something 139 00:06:56,699 --> 00:06:58,020 different than I'll be in front of you 140 00:06:58,020 --> 00:07:00,660 again saying here's what we found 141 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:02,699 are we are we going to presumably 142 00:07:02,699 --> 00:07:05,699 replace uh with reinforced concrete pipe 143 00:07:05,699 --> 00:07:09,180 uh I believe we're doing um 144 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:12,419 I'm not mistaken yes uh Plastics uh more 145 00:07:12,419 --> 00:07:17,469 more strength more uh longevity 146 00:07:17,479 --> 00:07:19,919 PVC yeah 147 00:07:19,919 --> 00:07:24,830 okay then one final question I'm sorry 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,500 um 149 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:27,960 the sort of temporary measure that you 150 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,380 took in dumping gravel in there uh does 151 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:33,960 that not pose a problem for them silting 152 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,780 up our pipes Downstream or is that going 153 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:38,520 to be there short enough time that I 154 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,319 mean what I'm saying is before we get in 155 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:42,479 there let's suppose a downpour hits two 156 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,880 hours from now and starts trying to wash 157 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,639 all that gravel Downstream is that not a 158 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:48,419 problem 159 00:07:48,419 --> 00:07:49,860 um Madam president uh commissioner 160 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:52,620 Pickering yes it is uh that being uh 161 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:55,139 kind of President commission McKinney uh 162 00:07:55,139 --> 00:07:58,259 that being said yes it is however uh 163 00:07:58,259 --> 00:08:00,419 again all knowing that you never cancel 164 00:08:00,419 --> 00:08:03,000 the forecast we are confident that for 165 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,400 the next week week and a half we were 166 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,900 not going to see another one of these 167 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:09,900 issues recall this was the impact of the 168 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:12,599 revenants of that hurricane and uh and 169 00:08:12,599 --> 00:08:16,680 uh tropical storm that came up uh into 170 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Idaho but everything looks great I 171 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,180 looked at the weather forecast there is 172 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:23,520 a high over Idaho right now there's a 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,400 storm earlier today that was it was 174 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,860 going around the Oregon Washington area 175 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:30,900 but it was going north 176 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:33,599 so so if there's another a major event 177 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:37,140 it's going to be an issue but uh we 178 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:39,180 don't think that's going to happen today 179 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:41,700 okay great thank you commissioner 180 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:42,839 goldthorpe 181 00:08:42,839 --> 00:08:45,360 yeah I you know last eight and a half 182 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,580 years I think we've all had our fingers 183 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:48,959 crossed that something like this wasn't 184 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:51,300 going to happen in the North End because 185 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:54,420 of the uh infrastructure that was built 186 00:08:54,420 --> 00:08:56,820 there 100 years ago and maybe a little 187 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:58,920 more recent as we're finding out now but 188 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,100 uh yeah I you know just like 189 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:03,899 commissioner McKinney said nothing's 190 00:09:03,899 --> 00:09:05,940 nothing's going to surprise me there and 191 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:09,480 I hope we can find that it's uh less 192 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,000 than worst case scenario and get it done 193 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,940 quickly and sitting here hearing Paul 194 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:16,980 saying what kind of material is going to 195 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:19,440 be used to replace the pipe I actually 196 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,320 remembered one of my Roadmaster classes 197 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:28,850 where we talked about the types of pipe 198 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,080 that's all I have to say thanks 199 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,760 commissioner Goldberg commissioner gold 200 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,260 do you have anything any questions you 201 00:09:34,260 --> 00:09:37,250 want to ask 202 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:40,019 I don't I am 203 00:09:40,019 --> 00:09:42,000 I think it was all covered from my 204 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,880 questions but um I appreciate the you 205 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,580 know quick response and 206 00:09:46,580 --> 00:09:48,720 making sure that we can get this address 207 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,070 so thank you 208 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,720 can I just ask one more question I am 209 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,660 sorry about this the um the funding uh 210 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:59,339 the funds that we're authorizing for 211 00:09:59,339 --> 00:10:02,880 emergency use uh where do they come from 212 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Mr we'll take that out of any reserves 213 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,560 we have but it's not a problem having 214 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,899 one of the reasons we have reserves okay 215 00:10:09,899 --> 00:10:11,459 they just come out of our cash reserves 216 00:10:11,459 --> 00:10:14,040 then that was gonna be my question too 217 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,680 so thanks commissioner McKinney okay 218 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:23,810 any other questions commissioners 219 00:10:23,820 --> 00:10:26,459 yes you will if if you agree and allow 220 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:27,779 us you'll have to adopt that resolution 221 00:10:27,779 --> 00:10:29,880 that's in front of us that authorizes us 222 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,839 to go 223 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:34,800 so yeah all uh is there a motion to 224 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,200 approve the adoption for resolution 24 225 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,779 10. yes 226 00:10:39,779 --> 00:10:42,000 Madam president I would move that we 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,700 adopt resolution 2410. 228 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,200 okay 229 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,650 moved and seconded any other discussion 230 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:54,000 keep up the great work of keeping the 231 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,620 neighbors informed about what's 232 00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:57,600 happening 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,880 um and or maybe even provide like a 234 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,839 specific like line that they can call or 235 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:05,459 text to get more update information 236 00:11:05,459 --> 00:11:07,210 because this is really 237 00:11:07,210 --> 00:11:07,860 [Music] 238 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:08,519 um 239 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:10,320 specific and I don't want them to get 240 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,300 bogged down through our Telus system 241 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:14,880 even though they wouldn't but yeah just 242 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,260 a little bit more hasty Communications 243 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:18,600 would be great so Madam President we are 244 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,120 we are adding a project page 245 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,019 um and such so uh 246 00:11:25,019 --> 00:11:27,720 beautiful that sounds great okay all 247 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,300 right all those in favor say aye 248 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:31,320 aye 249 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,140 opposed motion carries thank you 250 00:11:34,140 --> 00:11:37,200 director thanks Dave thanks staff 251 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,160 thank you 252 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,940 enjoy the weekend