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I just didn't copy it over.
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» No, they all
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» No. Well, I just want to We need
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» Yeah. So, anything anything under
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By the way, did
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» Yeah, she loved them.
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Summer has the warm

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I heard you were circling the block
>> a little bit.

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» Half other people in this meeting.

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two paper clips.
>> We So, it'll be This should have been

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doublesided.
>> It's only one-sided. So, we communicated

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that. It was nice to have the whole
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» I like that

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everybody ready.

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How you doing, man?

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» Did we get all the adjusting entries,
everything all done yet? Or

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» that uh tax revenue one is proving we
knock down again.

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» We just don't have any knocking.
>> We may need may need him to have to sign

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up. passes down and sign it,
>> right?

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» In blood.

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» Don't worry. Here's Go read the fine
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» No, no, no. I'm not supposed to even
hold them.

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» Well, you're signing with your left
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» Let's get started, everyone.
>> Here.

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» Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to
call to order the uh regular monthly

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summer meeting of the Ada Township
Board, trustees, and other members. Can

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we all please stand for a moment? Um,
the pledge of allegiance. A moment of

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» silence.

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands. One nation,
indivisible, liberty and justice for

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all.

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Clerk DeMarco, will you please call the
role?

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» Supervisor
>> here.

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» Clerk DeMarco here.
>> Treasure Morand

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» here.
>> Trusty Crows

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» here.
>> Trusty

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» here. Trusty Carter
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» Trusty Damstra is absent.
>> Thank you. Um we have an agenda in front

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of us with a number of items. There's no
u requirement to change this agenda. So

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it's an agenda as presented with someone
move to approve as presented.

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» So moved.
>> Second.

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» Thank you. Moved by Trusty Heritz,
supported by Trusty Carter to approve

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the agenda. All in favor signify by
saying I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» That motion carries. We're going to go
on to the general township business.

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It's the motion to approve minutes and
accept and file reports communications

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under the consent agenda.
Includes the approval of the township

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board meeting minutes from June 8th,
2026

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and the following planning commission
meetings from May 21st. The Thornample

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Thornapple pedestrian bridge meeting
minutes number 10 from June 10th. The

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Thorn Apple River Pedestrian Bridge
meeting minutes number 11 from June

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26th. Coverbridge Park Progress meeting
uh number 21 minutes to June 18th. The

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Grand River Drive trail improvements
progress meeting number three minutes

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from June 10th, the Nap Street
Pedestrian Bridge kickoff meeting

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minutes from June 26th, and the revenue
and expense report as of June 30th,

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2026.
There's does anyone have any questions

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or comments on any of those? And if not,
um, would someone move to approve all

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these items?
>> I move to approve minutes and accept and

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file reports and communications
under the consent agenda.

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» Second.
>> Thank you. We have motion by trustee

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pros, supported by trustee Carter to
approve the reports and communications

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under the consent agenda. All in favor
signify by saying I.

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» I.
>> Anyone opposed? Hearing none, that

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motion carries.
We're going to move on to the approval

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of the warrants. The first one is the
township general warrants. Um would uh

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Treasurer Moran, will you please present
the warrants?

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» Thank you, Supervisor Cor. Uh today,
July 13, 2026. We have hand checks that

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total 1,93,8215

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and warrants that total $964,19727

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for all checks and warrants totaling
$2,58,18.32.

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» These items were are detailed in the
revenue expense report as well as the

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summary of the warrants. Does anyone
have any questions or comments?

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This is a roll call vote.
Clamar Mark, will you please call the

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role?
>> No. Need a motion to appropriate.

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I'll make I'll make a motion to approve
the uh the uh uh checks and warrants uh

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for uh as of Monday, July 13th, 2026 in
the amount of 2,58,18.32

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» support. All right. Thank you,
gentlemen. We have a motion by Trusty

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Carter supported by Trusty Pros to
approve the general township warrants.

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Right now, we're ready for the roll call
vote. Trusty Carter.

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» Iusty
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» Trusty pros.
>> Hi,

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» Treasure Moran.
>> I clerk Marco I. Supervisor.

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» I.
All right. The next item is to consider

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the conservation boardwalk replacement
project change order number one.

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Riverworks construction to balance
original contract items to asbuilt

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quantities for a project deduction of
$6,970.

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Uh thank you, Supervisor Cor Ryan
Erenss, Morren Bruent Township Engineer.

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Um as you mentioned, have before you uh
change order number one and final for

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the conservation boardwalk replacement
project. This change order balances uh

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contract quantities to asbuilt um
quantities and uh we did end up slightly

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under the original contract amount. The
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um that resulted in RiverWorks
construction. They were able to

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eliminate the helical piles we had set
up and they were able to utilize

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standard timber piles in uh location of
the helical piles by offsetting their

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pile driving equipment to avoid the
power lines that were above. So, um this

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change order closes the project out and
like I said, balances everything to

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asbuilt quantities.
>> Great. Thank you.

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» Any questions or comments? [snorts]
I think Bob should this. We got a

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deduction here.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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» Well, I I I certainly like deductions.
>> Um I move approval of change order

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number one, a deduction of $6,970

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[clears throat]
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» Second.
>> Thank you. Motion by Trusty Pros,

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supported by Trustee Carter to approve
the change order um for the conservation

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boardwalk improvement project. Uh this
is a roll call vote.

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» Supervisors
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I treasure
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» trusty pros.
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» Trusty. Hi.
>> Trusty Carter.

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» I
thank you. All right. The next one is

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the consider the cover bridge
park change order number 10 from

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Katherburg Verg
up. Sorry to consider conservation

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boardwalk replacement project final pay.
Oh, it's a pay application for that

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boardwalk. Application number three for
Riverworks construction in the amount of

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39,32975
which I'm assuming reflects the red the

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deduction.
>> Correct.

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» Yes, that is correct. Thank you,
Supervisor Court. Again, Ryan Arens more

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brink township engineer. Uh with the
approval of that change order on the can

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conservation boardwalk replacement
project, we now have the uh final pay

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recommendation. Uh it's pay
recommendation number three and final in

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the amount of $39,329.75.

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Uh RiverWorks Construction completed the
boardwalk um and has addressed all of

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the punch list items that we identified
at our May 26th final inspection. So,

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we're recommending full payment and
release of all retainage. Uh, so that

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total amount would be $39,329.75.

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» Ryan, I got a problem with uh releasing
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» Okay.
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you know, in a final pay, we got to keep
this for a little while just make sure

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nothing shifts, no boards warp. Let's
get through a little season. Um, fair is

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fair. There's another payoff later in
here where it's not completion, but it's

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pretty close for the similar type uh
trail construction. All along we've

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always withheld 5%
10% at the beginning and get so far in

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the project, we reduced that. But to
break away from that is a breakaway from

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the norm. And it's miraculous how all of
a sudden if there's no money out there

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and something happens that now we're
liable for it. And to call the

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contractor back is a charge where if we
withhold something and as part of the

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project then it becomes common sense
that they would fix it in order to get

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their retention. Um how long do we hold
it for? I'm not an expert. we would come

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to you for it for for that. But I
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uh through the through the fall season
and perhaps even into spring where the

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fluctuations in the in the earth and the
movement causes it. I'm not trying to be

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mean or anything else to the contractor
because they've done a good job.

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However, common sense and consistency is
what I'd like to strive for. I don't

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know if any of the other board members
agree or disagree, but it's uh

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» just as a as a note, Bob. So, I mean,
typically when we do the final pay

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application, we pay the final amount.
The items you might be speaking to would

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be covered under warranty, which would
be for, I believe, a year from

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» So, the warranty in the contract, uh,
the legal and binding contract specifies

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one year from final inspection. So, the
warranty would be good until May 26th of

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2027. Um, at which point basically the
contractor is liable for any repair

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replacement.
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» Yeah. So, typically, I mean, what we
we've done is we do pay the final pay

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application and then anything else would
fall under warranty. Typically, the only

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thing we've held retainage for has been
lawn restoration or yard restoration

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that might [clears throat]
uh, you know, go from the fall into the

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spring. But typically, when the
project's complete, we do the final

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payoff once the punch list items are
done. And then anything else would be

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covered under warranties.
>> I'm fine with that.

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Does the contract specify that we pay
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» when the project's complete?
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and all, basically they've satisfied our
final inspection list.

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» And we believe that's where we're at.
>> Yeah. So if uh as Mr. Pro said, if

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something does happen over the course of
the fall, winter, spring, it then

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becomes a warranty related issue. Um
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I think it's a good discussion, but
Um, I'll I'll make the uh motion to

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approve uh uh pay application number
three for 39. I got this right? Yeah.

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Yeah. 39 32975

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$39,329.75

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uh for the conservation boardwalk
replacement. This is application number

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three.
>> Support.

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» Thank you. We have we have a motion by
trustee pros, excuse me, trusty Carter

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supported by treasure man. Roll call
vote, please.

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» Supervisor Cords.
>> I.

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» Clerk Demarco,
>> I. Treasure Moran,

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» I.
>> Trusty Crows.

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» Hi.
>> Trusty [clears throat] Herurwitz.

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» Hi,
>> Trusty Carter.

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» I
>> Okay. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Um,

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right. Now we're ready to move on to the
consider the covered bridge park change

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order number 10 from KG
to add water fountain relocation, snow

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melt system capping, restroom building,
electrical adjustment for a project

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increase of $5,635.

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» Good afternoon. Uh Pieransky, project
manager, uh Progressive Companies on the

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Ada Coverbridge Park. Uh here is change
order number 10. It covers three items

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as mentioned. Uh the relocation of
existing water fountain. There was one

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in front of the restroom building. Uh we
thought we could work around it through

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conversations with Caterberg and through
just kind of talking means and methods

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of how they were planning on building
it. It just made much more sense to

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remove it instead of potentially
damaging it because we had to pour more

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concrete around it. So that's the first
item. Second item is uh capping the snow

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melt system. We thought we had it taken
care of last early early this spring,

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but it turns out with a little bit more
excavation, a little bit setup, it was

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hit again. So we need to cap it again
properly to make sure it doesn't leak in

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the future. That was the snow melt that
used to lead to the sidewalk that ran

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out to the parking lot originally from
the building. And the last one is the

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pretty unfortunate, but uh as we've been
digging into the building as the

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renovations have happened, we've
discovered that the electrical wires

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throughout the building were essentially
morted into the concrete block. So our

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plan was originally to be able to pull
that wire out and reroute it, but

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because it's inside the block and we're
adding blocks above it, there's no way

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to actually connect safely those wires
throughout. So this is essentially to

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rewire the restroom building. That's
just something that open it up, find

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something unique. Never seen that
before. And that's that's what that is

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for. So those are the three items. Um I
believe right now we're pretty much in a

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shape. I don't think anything else is
going to jump up. This is kind of the

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last unknown. Renovations. I'm sure
we've all renovated a house or home or

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have friends or family. Things just kind
of pop up and you start tearing stuff

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apart. So this should be uh hopefully
the last change order for now.

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» Director Diesson uh is out of town and
so I'm happy to answer any questions. I

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mean, these are items that we discussed,
uh, worked through, he felt comfortable,

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um, paying from the existing contingency
fund. And as Peter indicated, we're

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essentially pretty close to the finish
line. Um we did when we did took a tour

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um we looked at the electrical piece and
because we added I think Peter said

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three or four blocks on top. I mean
rather than start splicing wires

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together it just made a lot more sense
to do it the safe way and re rewire the

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electric box without a mortar block is
not a smart idea for long term.

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» Yep. So,
>> I remember asking about the water

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fountain in regards to I know we're
replacing the existing one, but I think

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I mentioned at one point in time using
a more

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popular one that you can refill your
water bottles. Was that ever discussed

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or did we ever get a price on that or is
there a second? Oh jeez, you're kind of

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if we got a spot here. I can't remember
if we have a second one on the park or

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not. I don't think we do. The one there
is just being re removed and replaced.

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It's It's in great shape. It's just uh
doesn't have the water bottle fil

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filter, but that's a
>> Is it attached to the building itself?

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» It is right outside about 2 feet.
>> So, it's freestanding. Okay.

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» Freestanding. Yeah. Yep.
>> Thank you.

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» I'll make a motion uh to approve uh
covered bridge uh park change order

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number 10.
um to add the water fountain uh

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relocation, the snow melt system
camping, and restroom building,

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electrical adjustment for a project
increase of $5,635.

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» Thank you. We have a motion by Trustee
Carter, supported by Trusty Kerwitz

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to approve this change order. Um
Mark, we please call the RO.

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Excuse me. [clears throat] Trusty
Carter.

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» I.
>> Trusty Herurwitz.

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» Hi.
>> Trusty Pro.

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» Hi.
>> Treasure Moran.

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» Hi.
>> Clerk Demarco. I Supervisor C.

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» I.
Thank you.

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Okay. So now we're consider the cover
bridge park pay application number nine

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from Caterberg in the amount of
$338,569.56.

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Hi Peter Spansky again. Uh it's payation
number nine. We have uh a lot of uh

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items in this one. I picked out five of
the larger ones. Um we have the restroom

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building, the restroom building which is
being constructed. We're roughly about

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80%. Uh a lot of the structural aspects
have been taken care of. Um on that we

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have the uh canopy structure bringing up
to 90%. Really is just a little bit more

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roofing left to go and the final
connections to the restroom building

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itself. I believe actually siding today,
so that's good. Um and then we have

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$85,000 for the pave drain pavers. Those
are those uh rain rainwater infiltration

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blocks that you see throughout the
entire downtown. And we've done the

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curve around the park there. And we have
$29,796.75

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for the 75% of the irrigation system.
Just a little bit left kind of out by

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the restroom building where we're still
currently operating. And then $31,175.

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And that's kind of the lump sum of the
if you remember back there's a change

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order to add the north side of the cover
bridge the deck the steel rail the steel

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beams underneath being re repainted and
re well sanded then repainted and then

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the railing. So all that work is
complete now. So this is kind of up to

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there. Um as you can see we are moving
closer and closer to completion. It's

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kind of fun to see some grass seating
going on. You can kind of see the final

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form. Um right now we are still tracking
for August 12th as planned and uh

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everything talked to contractor this
morning everything seems to be going

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relatively smooth. So any questions feel
I'm here here to answer them.

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Uh I I'll make another motion here to to
approve uh the covered bridge park pay

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application number nine from Kerberg for
HG in the amount of $338,569.56

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» support. Thank you.

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Application number nine was moved by
trustee Carter supported by treasure

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man.
This is another roll call vote.

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Call the vote.
>> Treasure Moran.

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» Hi.
>> Supervisor Kors.

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» Hi.
>> Trusty Carter.

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» I.
>> Trusty Herurwitz.

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» Hi.
>> Trusty Pros.

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» I Marco. I.
>> Thank you.

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Okay. The next one. Consider the Grand
River Drive trail improvement project

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pay application number two from Tomic
Construction in the amount of

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$490,234.40.

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40 cents.
>> Thank you, Supervisor Court. Uh again,

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Ryan Erenss, Mor Brink, Township
Engineer. Uh have before you this

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afternoon recommendation for payment
number two for the Grand River Drive

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trail improvements project. Uh this is
for work completed from about miday

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through June 26th. Um and essentially
the the path is nearly complete at this

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point. Um, this pay application uh is in
the amount of $490,2340.

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Um, and it does include a 5% retainage
uh as we've hit 50% of the contract

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amount which is $43,914.81

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uh to atomic construction.

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» How um is the section on Ada Drive done
yet?

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» It is not. They're actually they were
scheduled to start today. Uh they had

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some equipment issues. The mill broke
down um that crushes the pavement. So

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now they're scheduled to start
Wednesday. They have done some

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preliminary concrete work and put the
soil erosion control measures up. They

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did that late last week. Uh but the
brunt of the work was scheduled for for

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this week. Um they're just going to be a
little delayed with the equipment.

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» What's this the start to finish on just
that little stretch because it's

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» essentially about a week.
>> A week. Okay.

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So,
we do have our final inspection

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scheduled for the section on Grand River
from Nap down to Fulton uh for the

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middle of next week.
>> So, we're going to walk that with Atomic

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Construction, document any punch list
items, that type of

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» great
move approval of uh Grand River Drive

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trail improvement project application to
atomic construction in the amount of

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$490,2340.

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support
>> motion to approve

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by
support treasure.

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All I guess roll call vote.
>> Trusty Carter

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» I.
>> Trusty Herurwitz.

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» Hi.
>> Trusty pros.

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» I.
>> Treasure Moran

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» I.
>> Marco I. Supervisor.

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» I. Thank you.
All right. Here's the last one of this

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group. Uh it's the consider the
Thornapple River pedestrian bridge

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project pay application number six from
the Grand River construction from Grand

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River construction in the amount of
832,85442.

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Thank you, Supervisor Court. Again, Ryan
Arens, Morren Brujink, township

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engineer. I have before you pay
recommendation number six uh for the

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Thorn Apple River pedestrian bridge
project uh due to Grand River

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construction and this is for work
essentially performed in the month of

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June. It's a big one as we set the the
pre-fabricated pedestrian bridge in that

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bridges in that month. Uh so this pay
recommendation is for $832,8542

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and it still does include a 10%
retainage on that as well.

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» Where where are we on the opening of the
bridge?

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» So they are finishing up concrete work
on both sides this week. Um also

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finishing up the rough earth work. uh
going to do uh irrigation repairs, tree

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planting next week and then as soon as
irrigation repairs are done, they're

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going to spray restoration. Uh there's a
good chance it could potentially be open

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to foot traffic this Friday. Um after
they get the concrete poured,

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essentially the concrete cures one day
and foot traffic is allowed on it. So

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» it's exciting.

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What else?
>> I'll move approval to uh Riverworks

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Construction
in the amount this is pay what number is

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» six
>> six in the amount of $832,8542

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» second to Grand River.
>> So we have a motion by trusty pro

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supported by trusty Carter
pay application number to Grand River

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construction for 832,8442.

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» Supervisor Cor
>> I clar.

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» Treasure Moran
>> I.

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» Trusty pros.
>> Hi.

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» Trusty.
>> Hi.

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» Trusty Carter.
>> I.

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» Thank you. All right. So, we're going to
move into um our public com first public

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comment of the afternoon. Uh would any
members of the public like to come up uh

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and talk about any topic they'd like?
They'd like to come up, please state

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your name and address for the record,
please.

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Seeing no one come up at this time, I
will close this first public comment

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session and move on. We have no items of
unfinished business. We do not have a

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public hearing. So, we'll move into our
new business section, which is the first

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one is the request from Egypt Valley
Country Club for public fireworks

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display permit on September 19th,
2026 with a rain date of October 3rd.

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» Yes, my name is Michael Faulk. I'm with
Pyro Technical Fireworks and I'm

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representing specifically Egypt Valley
Country Club today. Um, as a supervisor

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said, they would like to have a firework
display for their fall festival on

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September 19th. So you have in front of
you an application for the fireworks as

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well as a certificate of insurance and a
site map. So no changes from previous

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years. Same same crew more or less, same
location. Um same situation all around.

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I'm here to answer any questions you
might have.

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» And this has been reviewed um with fair
chief Murray and Township doesn't have

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any issues with the request as
presented.

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Move approval of the request as
presented

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» for the fireworks display.
Second.

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So we have a motion by trustee pro
supported by trusty Carter for the

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approval of the um firework display
permit for Egypt Valley Country Club on

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September 19th. All in favor signify by
saying I.

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» I. Anybody opposed? Hearing none, that
motion carries unanimously.

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» Thank you very much.
Okay, we're going to move on to uh the

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resolution resolution R07
1326-1, a resolution to authorize the

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songs and sips application for special
license.

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» Thank you board members. Uh Ethan Angel,
recreation coordinator with your parks

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and rec department. Uh just need your
approval to move forward. It's our

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second annual songs and sips. Last year
went off with great success. We had

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about 55 people in attendance even
though the weather was questionable as

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it tends to be in February. Roselle
worked great. We had some great

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partnerships with the historical society
and a couple other sponsors that came

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through. Uh worked with Gravel Bottom to
supply the beer and wine. We don't have

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any artists planned at this time. Still
working with Chris Collins. We're hoping

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to get through music on the lawn before
we book the next set of artists. Um but

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we just need your guys' approval to be
able to move forward and this just keeps

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our events moving forward and and ahead
of schedule.

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Okay.

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I think it's wonderful.
>> I move approval of resolution to adopt

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resolution R-07
1326-1 authorizing the songs and steps

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application for special license.
>> Support

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by trustee with supported by treasurer
Moran to approve resolution 071326-1

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uh for the songs and sips application
for a special liquor license. This is a

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roll call vote.

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» Supervisor Cor
>> Igo

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I. Treasurer [clears throat] Moran
>> I.

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» Trusty Pros.
>> Hi.

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» Trusty Herurwitz.
>> Hi.

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» Trusty Carter.
>> I.

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» Thank you. We're all set. Thanks.
>> Okay. We're moving on to consider the

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recommendation from the planning
commission to deny request to reszone 60

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Adah Hills Drive Northeast
from rural residential to single family

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R1 residential.
>> Thank you.

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» Good afternoon,
Supervisor Cor and members of the board.

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John said, director of planning for the
township.

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This matter concerns a request for
reszoning for 68 Hills Drive from rural

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residential to single family
residential. This matter was fully

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vetted at the June planning commission
meeting. However, I do have a number of

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details. So, I can go into those and
share that information with you now if

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you would like or if you wanted to just
ask questions, whatever your pleasure

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may be.
John, what were some of the issues or

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what is the is there a top five issues
that they all rejected or top one or

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» certainly um
significantly it's a it's a great

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question. Significantly, the the the
request to reject this was based on the

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fact that this is an isolated zoning
request. This is a request that um there

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is no other location uh anywhere around
there that has this zoning district.

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This is a single parcel resoning request
and it is simply to allow for an

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increase in density in an area that
otherwise it would not comply with. The

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applicant had identified other areas
not far from this one where

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lots were smaller than the the minimum
allowed. However, as I've noted in the

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staff report,
those were developed undoubtedly under

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previous zoning ordinances and do not
match what is there now. So the idea is

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always moving to move forward to
progress to increase conformity with

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current standards including lot sizes
instead of moving backwards to allow

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non-conformance or use use of outdated
standards. So that was a that was a

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large issue conformance with those
zoning standards and our zoning

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ordinance
significantly as well. We don't have any

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other location in the township that is
zoned R1. This would be a one lot zoning

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district which we don't have anywhere in
the community and it would be a location

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where um there is no other no other
property within the township that is

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zoned R1. So the the planning commission
felt very strongly about that topic.

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They felt that that merited significant
consideration

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because of those conditions. We also had
a member of the public that spoke at the

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meeting and also submitted a letter in
opposition and it was a neighbor

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neighboring property owner in that
location.

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the factors and I can certainly read
this in verbatim if you want but just

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the main factors were disruption of the
rural residential characteristics of the

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area uh conflict with the township's
plan

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degradation of the Fulton Street
corridor increase in density diminished

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safety and functionality of the
neighborhood

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so that that's what that individual
submitted uh their information is

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00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:29,840
complete is also included in the um in
the uh minutes for that meeting. One

433
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:35,200
thing I'd also like to make mention of
as it relates to the master plan. While

434
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:40,000
the applicant had had said this conforms
with the master plan because the R1

435
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:44,320
district and this particular area is
currently planned for neighborhood

436
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:49,360
residential. The fact of the matter is
is that master plans just like zoning

437
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:54,720
ordinances and everything else are
living breathing documents and they are

438
00:33:52,000 --> 00:34:00,080
subject to update as time goes along.
This particular area does not have any

439
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:02,960
of the utilities that would be
appropriate and necessary for

440
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:08,560
neighborhood residential. There's no
sewer, there's no water or any of that

441
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:14,720
kind of stuff north of Fulton Street. So
that's a significant issue to be

442
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:21,440
considered. Sim similarly um
the the master plan and the other topics

443
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:26,879
that are talked about in the master plan
talks about in areas of the that have

444
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:30,960
more rural character which this does
that language in the master plan says

445
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:35,200
that the township should discourage
resonings which incrementally increase

446
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:41,679
density in the area. So that's a master
plan policy matter as well as it relates

447
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:46,240
to the isolated zoning. I have
references from a planners dictionary

448
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:50,879
which is from the American planning
association and several several

449
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:55,599
references of that planners dictionary
as it relates to spot zoning which is

450
00:34:52,960 --> 00:35:01,520
the kind of the planner geek term used
for isolated zoning basically talk about

451
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:06,320
the zoning of a small area which differs
measurably from the zoned land

452
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:11,119
surrounding the area.
Um, similarly,

453
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:15,760
reszoning of a lot or parcel designed to
benefit an owner for a use incompatible

454
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:20,240
with surround with surrounding uses and
on and on. Several more definitions that

455
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:24,400
are similarly noted and and referenced
in that way.

456
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:28,829
I apologize for the length and answer to
your question.

457
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,829
» I think you hit five. [laughter]

458
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,560
questions or comments.

459
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:44,720
The request is for the denial of the
request as recommended consistent with

460
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,240
the planning commission and staff
recommendations based on the findings of

461
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:52,960
fact that the request would be
inconsistent with the township law

462
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:57,520
specified in the planning ordinance.
>> So moved.

463
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:02,800
support
>> moved by treasure man supported by

464
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:07,599
trustee pros to go with the planning
department's recommendation of the

465
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:10,720
demile of the request as recommended
all in favor signify by saying I

466
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,720
» I
>> anyone opposed hearing none that motion

467
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,359
carries unanimous
>> thank you very much

468
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:27,440
» all right the next item is the consider
the Thor Apple River pedestrian excuse

469
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:32,119
me is moved down to um
let's see resolution R071326-2

470
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:40,880
the redevelopment liquor license
application for Terara GR Incorporated.

471
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:45,680
» Okay. Good afternoon to the township
board. Kevin Austin, your DDA director.

472
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Uh so I have the uh the memo there for
you guys that I'm going to roll through

473
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:53,200
and hit some highlights on. Um and uh
and then there I we also do have the

474
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,240
applicant here today that I will turn
over uh to summarize and give a little

475
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:01,040
bit more detail on the business
operation that's proposed in connection

476
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,079
to this redevelopment liquor license. Uh
so rolling through here, Ada Township

477
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:07,520
has received an application from Kenneth
Sun on behalf of Terra GR requesting

478
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,160
local government approval for a
redevelopment area uh liquor license for

479
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:16,240
the proposed restaurant at 590 ADA
Drive. Uh that is the for you guys that

480
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:21,200
are unaware that is the former jam and
bean recently former jam and bean. Uh

481
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:26,079
originally uh the one of the original
buildings here in uh in the historical

482
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,760
ADA called Rex Anony's general store. Uh
you can see some things about that in

483
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:35,200
the historical society as well. The
proposed establishment is located within

484
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:38,560
a township uh DDA. Uh it's eligible to
within an eligible redevelopment area

485
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,880
which is the DDA. The application
requires local government approval as

486
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:47,119
part of the MLCC licensing process. So
in accordance with the township's review

487
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,480
process for this license, uh the Ada
Township Downtown Development Authority

488
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:56,880
first reviewed this application on June
1526, adopted resolution DDA061526

489
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:00,960
TAC1 which is included in your packet uh
which is a resolution of support for

490
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:05,119
this application from the DDA board. Uh
the DDA's action is advisory in nature

491
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,880
and has been forwarded to you all uh as
the township board as the legislative

492
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,599
body which is authorized to adopt the
formal resolution that is required uh by

493
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:18,079
the MLCDC from the the local government
entity. So the applicable law is there

494
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,560
for you guys uh for redevelopment area
liquor licenses. Uh we do have several

495
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:25,440
that are inside the the DDA uh currently
as well. This is a process that's come

496
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,240
up probably every couple of years with
different applications as the

497
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:33,280
development has increased in the DDA
district. So, uh, one of the critical

498
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,640
components for your awareness and
knowledge is the redevelopment area

499
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:40,880
license eligibility and available
license capacity section right there.

500
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,079
The statute authorizes one redevelopment
liquor license for every million dollars

501
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,320
of qualifying investment occurring
within the redevelopment area in the

502
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:52,079
preceding three years uh, for every
1,000 residents of local government

503
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:56,079
unit. So to adopt the to document
eligibility under the statute, the

504
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,800
township assessor Stephanie Borman has
provided an affidavit certifying that a

505
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,560
qualifying investment within the
township redevelopment area totaled

506
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
$24,293,014

507
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:09,440
during the preceding three-year period
and there's an affidavit included with

508
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:13,359
that. Uh but that goes into the
calculation by the MLCC. This is a

509
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,119
calculation that they do, not
necessarily that we complete uh for

510
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:22,160
eligibility. So this does still go to
MLCC to establish whether or not uh this

511
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:26,400
actually is exists according to their
metrics. However, according to what's

512
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:31,599
been calculated with their with their
format under the statute, uh you can see

513
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:36,560
24.293 investment units divided by the
population is 1.69 uh which they the

514
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:41,359
statute does claim the greater fraction
thereof. So we have roughly two um two

515
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,440
redevelopment liquor licenses afforded
to the DDA district currently in the

516
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:49,280
preceding three years uh that this has
occurred. So we do have at least one for

517
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:54,000
this applicant uh and that was
communicated to them and and so this was

518
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,280
reviewed uh by the DDA. The proposed
business operation is is there for you

519
00:39:55,839 --> 00:40:00,320
guys, but we do have the applicant here.
So I won't go too much into detail, but

520
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:05,680
you guys might be familiar with the
name. Uh this restaurant does uh does

521
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,800
have a location in Easttown uh that has
been operating successfully and I do

522
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,599
believe they had a satellite location in
downtown as well but uh Mr. Sun uh can

523
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,880
document that and talk about his uh
unique approach that he's looking to do

524
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,200
here in downtown ADA on the historic
side. So the requested licensing you

525
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,440
guys can see there is a class C on
premise license. Uh the narrative that

526
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,720
was provided by the applicant says that
they do not intend to operate a

527
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,599
traditional full service bar. Rather
that alcoholic beverages will be

528
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:35,839
ancillary to the restaurant operation.
Consists primarily of beer, wine, and

529
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,280
other packaged alcoholic beverages. Um
they see to have an SDM license which is

530
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:43,920
a specially designated merchant license
as well. We do have several of those uh

531
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:48,240
here in the township. Um there's the the
dining which requires at least 25

532
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:52,960
patrons or 25 seats indicated. And there
is a floor plan that you guys have there

533
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:56,240
in the in the the package as well. Um
and then looking at the building

534
00:40:54,480 --> 00:41:00,720
rehabilitation investment that is a
critical part of uh this application

535
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,920
process under MLCC. So Coverbridge
Properties LLC which owns the property

536
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,480
has provided estimate building
improvements estimated building

537
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,160
improvement costs totaling approximately
$131,000

538
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,520
uh including floor replacement, repair,
HVAC, exterior improvements, rear

539
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:17,119
service entrance, ADA compliant
restrooms, utility updates, and sewer

540
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:22,319
improvements. uh they have a breakdown
of that included. Um the requirement is

541
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:28,079
$75,000 for improvement in the in the
building or in the premises that the the

542
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:31,599
license is tied to. So um and so uh the
community redevelopment benefits, I just

543
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,560
want to note that the the DDA reviewed
the proposal and determined that the

544
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,560
project is consistent with continued
redevelopment economic vitality of the

545
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:42,319
district and and then subsequently
approved the resolution and and for it

546
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,760
to you guys. Uh, so there is a a
recommended action there for you guys,

547
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,560
but uh, if there are no questions right
now, I'll still be available afterwards.

548
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,000
I'd love to get the applicant in front
of you guys to to give kind of a

549
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,200
synopsis of his of his application for
the license.

550
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,960
» Just one question before you um, sir
leave, Kevin, in regards to just in the

551
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:04,000
application, there's this alcohol
information management system where it

552
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:09,599
talks about how many are allowed and how
many are issued. I I know you touched on

553
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,079
the SD and the SDM. Mhm.
>> Uh do all these numbers make sense to

554
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,800
you? Did you get a chance to look at
these? It says 15 are allowed for this

555
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:20,560
merchant
and only three are issued.

556
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,680
» So you're talking about the uh the
documentation.

557
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,160
» Yes. Local government unit quota search.
So

558
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:30,800
» yes. So that's the that's the publicly
available information on Laura uh I

559
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:35,359
believe or Laura's database providing uh
what the township currently has. Uh STM

560
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,800
licenses are specially designated
merchant licenses. Those are licenses

561
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:43,200
that are often for like liquor stores
and things like that. Okay. Uh to

562
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:47,280
provide uh the sale of alcohol that is
not to be consumed on premises but is to

563
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:51,680
be taken somewhere else. Uh the lark
actually uh applied for this license and

564
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:57,359
was granted this license in conjunction
to a class C on premises license. Um it

565
00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:02,240
was a application in 24. So they applied
for a similar thing. We are just uh

566
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:07,119
evaluating really the um the class C
license is what is is tied to the

567
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,880
redevelopment. Uh so I'm not exactly
sure on the numbers provided there by

568
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Lara. Um we did discuss this a little
bit in DDA about quota licenses. Uh the

569
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,880
differences between those two things.
Redevelopment liquor licenses can't

570
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:23,200
leave uh the DDA. They can't leave the
township. Quota licenses can. So people

571
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:27,040
that are granted quota licenses uh they
can take those uh and go to different

572
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,000
municipalities and things like that. But
redevelopment liquor licenses are tied

573
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,119
to the development district
specifically. Um does that answer your

574
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,119
question, Treasure Mar?
>> For the most part. Yeah. I was just kind

575
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:41,359
of curious what that merchant liquor
store makes sense to me. So,

576
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,880
» yeah. Uh, and to expound on that a
little bit, you could ask uh Kenneth as

577
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,960
well. Uh, but they do intend on being
able to sell a certain packaged alcohol

578
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,319
under the SDM license for people to take
being that their uh their function or

579
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:58,560
their operation is a little bit more
geared towards that format. So,

580
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,880
okay, I'll turn it over to Mr. Sun for a
brief presentation.

581
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,440
Good afternoon everybody. My name is Ken
Sung. I'm the owner of Terra GR. I don't

582
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:13,839
know if you're familiar with Terra GR.
We've been open in Easttown, as Kevin

583
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:17,760
had indicated, since 2012. Uh we're a
farm-to-table scratch kitchen, so we

584
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:22,560
support
probably 20 different farmers in the

585
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:27,040
West Michigan area. And everything we do
is made on premises at our restaurant.

586
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:33,920
We're a full-ervice restaurant. And in
2020, we added a new uh uh business

587
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:38,640
called Terra Bagels, which is two doors
located from our Easttown location. Then

588
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:42,800
we opened up a second location in 2012
or 2022

589
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:48,560
uh in downtown GR. And with the same
philosophy, doing bagels, but everything

590
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:53,520
being scratch kitchen using local uh
ingredients. The concept that we we're

591
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:58,640
presented here with a with a location
here in Ada is we want to provide the

592
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:03,839
bagels during the day and then in the
evening more of our terra to go uh menu.

593
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:08,640
So the reason for the the class C
license would be for allow to allow uh

594
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:14,480
our guests to consume what we would
focus on beer and al beer and wine on

595
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:20,079
premises and the SDM license as we
emphasize the to-go nature of our menu

596
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:24,480
which is pizzas, pastas and salads.
People can have the opportunity to pick

597
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:28,480
up or to to purchase a a beer and wine
with their with their purchase which is

598
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,079
the concept that we've we are working
with. So it's more of a cafe than a full

599
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,520
service restaurant. and it's a little
deceptive people thinking we're going to

600
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:39,920
have a full service restaurant. So as a
result we are kind of going to be

601
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:44,560
running the business as terra kitchen
ADA kind of a hybrid of the two

602
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:48,000
businesses that we currently have. So to
kind of clarify things so it isn't as

603
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:53,760
confusing as like are you Terra Bagels
are you Terra GR this should hopefully

604
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:59,440
create a new a new path for us as well.
Um our uh plan for operation would be

605
00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:03,359
from 7:00 a.m. till 3 we'll basically
run our bagels menu which would not

606
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:08,160
include any alcohol and then from 4
until 9 we will include more to the to-

607
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:15,040
go menu that we offer at Terra which
would offer the ability to again cons uh

608
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:19,119
enjoy uh the beer and wine on premises
as well as to to go. Um we're really

609
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:24,240
excited about being around the corner
here. Um, if you stop by the building,

610
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:27,440
you can see the the the renovations that
the Vanderbeans have put into this

611
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:31,680
building. It's a second gen, they're the
second gen generation owner of this

612
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:38,960
building. Um, as Kevin had indicated,
we're getting uh finally an HVAC system

613
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:42,319
in the building, ada uh bathroom, a
brand new floor, everything is going to

614
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,280
be updated in this. the outside of the
building will remain the same with, you

615
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,359
know, some painting and so forth, but
the the inside of the building will be

616
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:53,280
totally up to 21st century standards.
So, we're really excited about being

617
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:57,280
part of this community and being a local
business. We feel like it's a good fit

618
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,960
for everybody.
Any questions that I can answer for

619
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,960
anybody?

620
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:08,359
» I have a question. Given the the concept

621
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:17,440
» a pickup location in the and evening
hours.

622
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:21,520
How are you going to market where people
are supposed to park? It's not as if

623
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:26,720
it's a modern drive-thru or something.
And and are you using delivery services?

624
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:32,079
» We will also we will offer both uh Door
Dash and Uber Eats uh for both for

625
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:35,920
operations throughout the day. So, and
then we've we've actually had pretty

626
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:39,440
pretty good success at especially even
our downtown Grand Rapids location. We

627
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:44,400
don't have anything specifically listed
out as parking, but one of the things

628
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:49,599
that we will be doing is um we will have
um within our websites the ability for

629
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:53,920
for our guests to actually order order
place orders prior to pickup. So

630
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:58,560
basically, it'd be a really if somebody
wanted like currently right now, a lot

631
00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:02,720
of people will place orders the evening
before for bagels and pick it up at 9:00

632
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:06,079
a.m. and it's basically ready for them
at 9:00 a.m. So, it's a fairly quick

633
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:12,960
process even though we're not a
drive-through uh operation at all.

634
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:17,040
It's just that the um I totally support
concept and I and I actually think we

635
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:21,440
have room from the mechanics of of the
parking and the and the like, but the

636
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:27,040
logical area is is right outside this
wall in terms of where people would

637
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:29,680
would come in and and and access kind of
from the rear if they're just kind of

638
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:34,400
trying to pick up their order and leave
or the Uber Eats guys or whatever trying

639
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:38,640
to pick up their orders. Has there been
any conversations like who controls that

640
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,240
parking lot?
>> So, has there been any conversations

641
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:48,000
between the township and and us related
to, you know, being able to to dedicate

642
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:54,240
five minute parking only during certain
hours in the afternoons and evenings and

643
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:57,760
that kind of thing? I
>> uh I would say currently Supervisor

644
00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:03,040
Corve most of the conversations we've
had around uh that lot uh actually

645
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:07,599
pertain to uh some of the the joint use
of of the trash facilities and things

646
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:11,359
like that being that the the new
businesses coming into that corner are

647
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:14,720
trying to cohabitate really well in that
in that uh in that environment. And so

648
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:20,160
we were talking about that specifically,
but nothing uh related specifically to

649
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:24,880
timed parking for what assets are
currently there. Um those assets were

650
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:28,400
shared between uh the residential units
that are still uh on above those

651
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,240
properties and then also the the
commercial units inside of that

652
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:34,640
building. Uh so we have not talked about
specific timed parking or things like

653
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:40,559
that. I know that there's been
conversations about the um the parallel

654
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:45,440
spots on Ada Drive. uh that is something
that happens uh in the uh the natural

655
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,920
evolution of certain dynamic downtown
environments is that uh valuable

656
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:54,079
parallel parking does end up getting
times on it. Uh that's not something

657
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:58,640
that was necessarily recommended yet as
from our parking plan. Uh but as there

658
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,800
becomes more dynamic use in the
commercial nature of our downtown, I I

659
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,079
would say that that recommendation will
probably come up um you know maybe in

660
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:09,440
the near future for something like that
to make sure that that there is that

661
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,359
kind of turnover in those spaces. But we
do know that right now people do highly

662
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:20,720
value uh that those parking spots are
not uh uh either limited timeline or

663
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:25,839
something like that. But yes,
>> just because like over here where Mike

664
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:31,760
Ward's uh building that has the blimpies
and the hungry howies, I mean they're

665
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:38,579
militant about their parking staying
open and available for pickups uh by

666
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:41,760
people and um
>> [clears throat]

667
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:45,760
» I don't oppose the broader concept. I
just think that we're we if you're as

668
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:49,040
successful as you hope to be, I just
hope we don't have a weird kind of train

669
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:56,920
wreck going on out here during the
evenings. So,

670
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,920
» it's weird and very all day long.

671
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,160
» Well, that's [snorts]
I'd like to see fleshed out a little bit

672
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,200
more.
>> It is actually a good idea. I mean, I

673
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,559
don't know if that location, what you
speak of between the two buildings is

674
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,520
the perfect spot for it just because of
deliveries and whatnot. There's just a

675
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:17,760
lot of traffic there, but you know,
maybe in front of Lo's I think there's a

676
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:21,520
handicap then you could have a five
minute

677
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:25,359
quick in and out. It certainly makes
sense to me. I understand what you're

678
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,800
saying, Supervisor Cor. So, something to
consider.

679
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,000
» We would love it. So,
>> yeah, I bet you would. [laughter]

680
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,920
I mean definitely something we can look
at as you know we continue to look at

681
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:38,960
the parking plan implementation of the
parking plan and then you know even what

682
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,200
the future use of this building looks
like once the township moves. I mean

683
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:47,040
we're a heavy day user. Uh and then
obviously it's open at night. Um and

684
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,720
then we've got other restaurants too. So
we want to make sure whatever we do

685
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,480
we're cognizant of not only how does it
impact this business but other

686
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:57,760
businesses because if we put one here
then all of a sudden everyone's going to

687
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,280
want one. And so again, I think it is a
good idea. I think there's value in it.

688
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:05,680
Um, and definitely something that
obviously Kevin can take a look at and

689
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:09,200
we can look at as we move forward.
>> Any other questions I can answer?

690
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:13,720
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Move approval of resolution R71326-2

691
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:21,119
for the redevelopment liquor license
application for Terra GR Inc.

692
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:25,359
» support.
Moved by trustee pros, supported by

693
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,800
trustee heritz to approve resolutions
71326-2

694
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:34,640
for the red development liquor license
application for ter incorporated. This

695
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:37,119
is a roll call vote. Marco, you call the
role, please.

696
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:40,480
» Supervisor Cord
>> I.

697
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,559
» Ry Marco I. Treasure Moran
>> I.

698
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,160
» Trusty pros.
>> I.

699
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,760
» Trusty.
>> I.

700
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:50,319
» Trusty Carter
>> I.

701
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:55,680
» So we're all set on that.
All right, we're going to move on to um

702
00:52:53,680 --> 00:53:00,400
11E, which is consider the letter of
engagement with Municipal Financial

703
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:05,520
Consultants, MFCI,
for 2026

704
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:11,040
municipal building financing related to
our town, new proposed town.

705
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:14,640
» Thank you, Supervisor Cor. Um so, as
Treasurer Moran, I have been working

706
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:18,640
through, you know, next steps uh as
we've um had Dixon Architecture look

707
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:23,599
take a look at the schematics. We wanted
to make sure we had a schedule. It made

708
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:29,040
sense. Um, working with um, a vendor.
Previously, we've used PFM. Um, we met

709
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:33,359
with PFM, MFCI, and I know Treasure
Moran met with Huntington,

710
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,880
» Huntington Bank. Um, and we felt
comfortable moving forward MFCI. I mean,

711
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:41,839
all the firms are qualified. All the
firms can do the work. Um, but I we

712
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:46,400
think we have a a good opportunity, a
good relationship with MFCI to move

713
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:51,920
forward uh, for a successful process. We
did include a draft schedule um because

714
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:56,400
I know that's the one question is what
does this really mean? Where are we at

715
00:53:53,599 --> 00:54:01,359
in terms of uh if we're moving forward?
Uh this is the first step. Um so on the

716
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:06,480
schedule now that we have the letter of
engagement, the first step would be at

717
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:10,960
the um August 3rd, we're going to
include for the August 10th uh board

718
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:14,480
meeting a notice of intent. And that
would be the notice of intent of what

719
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:20,000
the township board's intent is for
bonding or financing the uh new township

720
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:24,000
hall building. You'll notice uh later in
the agenda, I've got a special work

721
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:28,480
special work session so that we can have
the board meet and review uh the outcome

722
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:33,680
of the schematic design uh review with
Dixon Architecture. But essentially,

723
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:40,079
this would run us through um publishing
the notice of sale in October 29th. um

724
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:43,280
bond closing and delivery on uh November
24th.

725
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:50,640
And Treasure Man, I don't know if
there's anything you'd like to add.

726
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:56,559
Uh no, I think uh between PFM and MFCI,
they're both wellrespected firms. And

727
00:54:54,319 --> 00:55:00,480
again, having uh Paul Stodder, who has
been our financial consultant in the

728
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:05,680
past, retire, it afforded us the
opportunity to look around. and through

729
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:13,960
Julius's network as well as mine, we we
landed with uh Warren Kramer and MFCI.

730
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,960
So, both outstanding firms.

731
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:22,480
Um just some clarification because I've
never been involved in bonding

732
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:28,559
before.
um where it says on a on November 24th

733
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:32,800
there's bond closing and delivery is
that essentially

734
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:36,319
where the bond is approved accepted and
they actually distribute funds and then

735
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:39,440
we we lock the funds away and and we
control the distribution there's not

736
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:41,760
oversight
>> correct

737
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,800
» correct that's the days the the funds
get our bank

738
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,799
» okay
>> and it's also the day interest hurts

739
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:52,319
» it does
>> okay

740
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:57,599
» we'll talk about that in a couple
months.

741
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:01,040
» So, so, so that date could be funible.
But Kevin, the point I'm making is if

742
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,599
that date could be funible in the sense
that if we find that our timeline shifts

743
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:10,160
to the spring or something, we would
clearly want to slow this down so that

744
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:12,319
we're not paying interest on money. Just
unless we could invest it. Can we invest

745
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,839
the money?
>> We can.

746
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,880
» That's what I thought you were referring
to. I'm sorry. Yeah, we get charged

747
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,599
interest, but we also start earning
interest on that money.

748
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:24,240
» So, yes.
>> All right. So potentially depending on

749
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:28,160
how that would play out, the net cost of
just having the money at our disposal

750
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,559
may be plast.
>> We hope so.

751
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:35,240
» Okay.

752
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,960
» Government doesn't like that.
>> No.

753
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:45,280
» Okay. So
>> we move approval of the letter of

754
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:50,480
engagement with MFCI for municipal
building financing of the township hall

755
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:56,880
project. Second.
>> Thank you. We have a motion by trustee

756
00:56:52,000 --> 00:57:01,280
pros supported by Carter to move forward
with the engagement with MCI for the

757
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:05,920
bonding for the new township all
project. All in favor signify. This is

758
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:09,200
this is a roll.
>> No roll.

759
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:14,000
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. That motion. All right. I and then uh

760
00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:20,079
anyone opposed? Hearing none. That
motion carries. Thank you.

761
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:23,920
Right.
Next one is to consider the proposal

762
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:28,480
from FMV operations and resource
management for a water reliability and

763
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:34,480
asset management plan for an amount not
to exceed uh $31,800.

764
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,200
» Thank you, Supervisor Cor. Um so a
little bit of background. The township

765
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,880
needs to update its water reliability
and asset management plan. Uh it was an

766
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,520
item that was identified previous
communication with Eagle. Um we received

767
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:49,119
two proposals. one from Moren Brewink um
who's completed this work in the past

768
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:52,240
and serves as our township engineer and
then one from FMV operations and

769
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:58,000
resource management which is contracted
as our utility operator. Both are uh

770
00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:02,160
capable of completing the work. Um FNV
proposes completing the work for a lot

771
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:06,559
lumpsum fee of $31,800.
Warren Burg proposes completing the work

772
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:09,839
for a not to exceed amount of $50,000.
Um

773
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:14,720
staff's recommendation is to move
forward to FMV operations for an amount

774
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,400
of $31,800.
Staff is also completely okay if the

775
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,720
board determined that we wanted to move
forward with more in bridging. This is a

776
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:28,000
little bit unique um just because uh FMV
has um as they've transitioned their

777
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:32,720
utility capacity and capability um
they're another resource for us to be

778
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:36,400
able to utilize for something like this.
And happy to answer any questions uh

779
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:41,680
that the board may have. And then
Stephanie Kosol with FMV is here. If you

780
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:46,960
have any questions for Stephanie.
>> As I've read this, this is really ironic

781
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:50,520
because they both are more than capable
of doing it.

782
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:59,839
As you said in the past, we've always
used more brink. But

783
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:04,480
you know, it's the money thing if
>> and it's too bad they can't team up and

784
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:11,359
then we work together with both. But
they're both very functional

785
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:15,559
and I think it would be foolish of us to
spend more than we have to

786
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:26,240
need a motion.
>> Yes. to make a motion then uh to uh

787
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:33,680
yeah to
lost it here but oh here it is to uh to

788
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:38,559
accept the uh proposal from FNV
operations and resource management for a

789
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:44,480
water reliability and asset management
plan for an amount not to exceed 31,800

790
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,599
support.
>> Thank you.

791
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:53,760
moved by trustee Carter supported by
treasurer Moran to you could utilize the

792
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:57,200
services of FND operations for water
management reliability asset management

793
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,160
plan.
>> All in favor signify by saying I

794
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:05,760
» I.
>> Anyone opposed? Hearing none that motion

795
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:10,240
carries unanimous.
>> All right. The next item is a

796
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:13,599
solicitation permit revocation appeal by
EcoShield.

797
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:19,119
Is there someone from Eco Shield that
like to come up and that request.

798
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:23,599
» Hello members of the board. I'm Tanner
Shuck. I'm one of the partners of Eco

799
01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:31,760
Shield. Um I'm here to speak on behalf
of EcoShield. Um mostly in reference to

800
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:36,880
Skip Kenneth Navaro. He's no longer
employed by our company. He will never

801
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:41,520
be applied for again in a permit in Ada
Township. I hear that was multiple

802
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:46,000
complaints from him. Um so we've
addressed that issue. Another complaint

803
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:50,960
that I heard was somebody riding a
scooter across lawns. Um, none of our

804
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:57,680
guys ride scooters, so I'm not sure who
that was or if he was in relation to.

805
01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:01,839
Um, so no scooters have been ridden. And
then, uh, I I'm fully in support of

806
01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:05,760
following the rules and the guidelines
and everything like that. And I think

807
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:10,880
that when guys break it, there should be
a process. So, I fully understand all of

808
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:17,119
this. Um, in terms of the other two
solicitors that we have no complaints

809
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:22,000
on, um, I just request that we can maybe
apply for veteran solicitors that have

810
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:26,799
been with us for multiple years that
will, uh, obviously look at the rules

811
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:32,400
and regulations very strictly and avoid
those areas. Um, but I am open to any

812
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:37,720
and all support um, as well as like
recommendations for what we can do

813
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,720
better.

814
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:50,079
Yes, I would. Nice to meet you in
person. I'm Mark with the clerk. We've

815
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:55,520
spoke many many times on the phone.
Long story short, this is one of the

816
01:01:52,720 --> 01:02:00,319
simplest and most easily understood
programs that that I've ever

817
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:05,839
encountered. And I've spent an abundance
of time with your employees going over

818
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:11,440
very remedial requirements, processes,
rules, all that. I have I have it in

819
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:14,319
writing um from Aubriana Moyes if I'm
pronouncing her name correctly.

820
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:19,680
» Yeah, she's newer to our organization.
>> She is fully fully aware of our zero

821
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:24,000
tolerance compliance. I will say that
you are mistaken when you say none of

822
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:29,680
your employees use scooters because um
I'll say they all do. Um and we've got

823
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:34,079
we have a multitude of even photos and
one of them was included in this packet

824
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:39,839
that I gave you. And it wasn't just one
solicitor. It was also after the notice

825
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:46,000
of revocation that was submitted to
Aubriana on June 16th. There were

826
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:50,960
multiple complaints after that date. One
of which is a photo of one of your

827
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:55,119
solicitors with your Echo Shield
clothing on on a scooter.

828
01:02:53,280 --> 01:03:01,760
» Can you define scooter for me? Because
we ride some guys ride one wheels. Um

829
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:06,160
» okay. A scooter. Um there's all
different kinds. Yes, I will agree. But

830
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,280
» yeah, I think that's where the
miscommunication came from because the

831
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:14,000
communication that came down for me was
a scooter, like handlebars riding a

832
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:18,000
scooter. And that's why I said that none
of our guys ride scooters.

833
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:20,559
» If it was a onehe or like a single wheel
device

834
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:24,880
» on an apparatus,
>> okay,

835
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:29,119
» and it's moving. I don't know. Yeah, it
you receive

836
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:32,559
» a onehe. Yes. So, I mean, again, call it
what you want, but when you're standing

837
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:36,400
on an apparatus and it's moving and
you're going across people's lawns,

838
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,960
» there you go.
>> But again, just to just to wrap up a

839
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,280
real long show, I mean, I I go into the
most finite detail that you want.

840
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:49,119
» Yeah.
>> But just to wrap it all up quickly, you

841
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:54,319
guys have broken every single rule, not
once, not twice, but a multitude of

842
01:03:51,039 --> 01:04:00,400
times. And the the documented complaints
that I've received don't even measure up

843
01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:05,039
or or fully fulfill the calls of people
who are actually scared and they're, you

844
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:09,119
know, crying on my shoulder telling me
stories about how they were, you know,

845
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:12,160
so aggressively approached and I told
this guy I didn't want I want didn't

846
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:17,039
want his services and he just wouldn't
leave. But I don't have documentation on

847
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,039
those so I couldn't include them.
>> Okay?

848
01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:23,839
» But I promise you as sure as I'm sitting
here, they are there.

849
01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:28,400
» And and again, I mean this is not just
one solicitor. This was several that you

850
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:33,520
guys seem to have overlooked even after
you got the notice saying cease and

851
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:37,280
desist. You didn't pull your people in.
>> Yeah.

852
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:41,599
» I've gone way overboard and even on from
the words of our attorneys saying I've

853
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:44,160
never seen a situation so clean,
concise, and tightly buttoned up.

854
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:48,079
» Yeah.
>> And and the amount of time that I've

855
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:55,200
spent with your employees that from the
looks of things, you haven't. So, I

856
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:59,839
don't know what else to say, but um
I think I've gone way overboard to keep

857
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:05,200
every to keep it all compliant and in
line. And I've even fielded complaints

858
01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:08,960
to Aubriana and it seems that nothing's
been done about them. So, I can't manage

859
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:13,440
your staff. I manage my own.
>> Yeah. And I think the really difficult

860
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:18,960
part here is Aubriana oversees every I
we have over 2,000 sales reps nationwide

861
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:23,760
and her communication down to me takes a
minute. And that's why I think a day

862
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:26,559
after the permits were revoked um that's
whenever she sent me the email and

863
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:30,960
that's whenever I immediately pulled the
reps from the area. So I think like

864
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:35,039
going forward my request would be this
like communication go straight to me.

865
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:38,960
I'm in market. I oversee all of these
guys. But whenever we have a chain of

866
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:43,119
command that takes like seven people
things are delayed. It's hard. I mean

867
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:46,160
you've played the the uh game telephone
before. Like everything gets

868
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:48,400
misconstrued as it goes down the line.
>> I get it. I get it. What you're saying

869
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:54,480
is we're all busy.
>> Yeah. Um, I can speak to that. I'm very

870
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:57,920
busy myself. I'm busy managing my staff
>> and my responsibilities.

871
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:02,160
» I don't have time to manage yours
>> 100%. So, I would just ask the

872
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,359
communication go directly through me. I
know that you had my email wrong one

873
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:10,640
time. So, I didn't get a bunch of these
emails and that's whenever Aana

874
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:14,799
» my email was uh typed wrong and so
Aubriana retied me into the email thread

875
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:18,799
in one of the emails that's in the
packet. And so I miss like half of these

876
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:22,960
communications. So
>> that would have been well I'm not going

877
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:29,520
to go there but in the beginning
>> it's um a little difficult to um to get

878
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:34,160
the handwriting that is submitted to me.
>> Okay. Yeah. But I think that was a

879
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:36,240
breakdown in like the chain of commands
as [clears throat] well.

880
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,559
» That was way in the beginning. We fixed
that.

881
01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:42,640
» Okay.
>> I can't you talk about chain of command

882
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:46,079
issue emails. Listen we have very clear
no solication signs in neighborhoods.

883
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:47,920
including mine.
>> Yeah.

884
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:51,440
» And they are there all the time and
they're told there's no solication and

885
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:55,280
it doesn't matter. And so when you have
clear entrance at at gated communities

886
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:57,760
with clear things that say no
solicitation

887
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:01,440
» Mhm.
>> It just happens again and again and it's

888
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:04,400
not just one neighborhood, it's lots of
neighborhoods and patience for it is

889
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,640
over.
>> Yeah.

890
01:07:04,799 --> 01:07:10,960
» I'm sorry. It's just it's just I don't
care about communication that but if if

891
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:14,559
it says clearly no solicitation is no
solicitation.

892
01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:19,920
» End of discussion. I'm done. I agree.
>> Thank you. And in addition to that, may

893
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:24,960
I say we have a do not knock list
>> that I personally hand to your

894
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,799
solicitors. What more could we possibly
do?

895
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:30,000
» Yeah.
>> With the do not knock list, you're

896
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:33,119
saying. And your guys' do not knock list
is super fair. I mean, like Park

897
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,680
Township has
>> Thank you.

898
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:40,000
» hundreds and hundreds. So, it's very
difficult. So, I I would agree. My one

899
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,520
thing that I would like to say though is
like in terms you said that we're there

900
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:47,680
all the time. We weren't even in the
township last year. It's been two years

901
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:52,559
since we've been here. So, us being here
all the time last year was because there

902
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:54,640
were some extremely egregious behavior
on part of your staff

903
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,160
» two years ago.
>> That didn't end well for them.

904
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,839
» Yeah. And that was before I took over
this office. I took over this office

905
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:05,599
last year and we were dealing with
things from two years ago as well. So, I

906
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:09,839
can't speak on behalf of the managers
that ran the office three years ago, but

907
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:13,440
I started taking over last year. We
weren't here last year. This year we

908
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:16,960
were here for what was it? A week and a
half, two weeks.

909
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,920
» No, you were here for just shy of 30
days.

910
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:22,319
» Okay.
>> And then even when the revocation letter

911
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:26,880
went out, you extended that.
>> Okay. But yeah, I I don't know what the

912
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:31,600
comment was all the time that were there
because and maybe solicitors in general,

913
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:37,839
but we've been there, I mean, for a
total of max 30 days over the last two

914
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:41,520
years. So, and uh hey, I want to respect
everybody's privacy just like you guys

915
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:45,600
do. I think that private streets with no
soliciting signs at the front should be

916
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:51,279
avoided [snorts] 100%. And that's why
I'm asking like um instead of sending

917
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:55,920
Eric Claude, he's uh not being mean, but
a low IQ individual. Same thing with

918
01:08:53,120 --> 01:09:00,560
Skipper. Um sending only our veterans
that have done this for years and years

919
01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:04,400
that have a ton of experience. Um we
haven't had a permit revoked in any

920
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:09,040
other municipality on this side of the
state except for here. So, we've adhered

921
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:13,199
to guidelines really, really well. But I
think we've not done such a good job

922
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:17,080
here and I just want to make it better.
I want to work with you guys.

923
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:24,400
» Um I'm a [clears throat] businessman as
well in the past.

924
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:30,880
I would uh
I appreciate the fact that you have

925
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:37,520
2,000 salesmen and are giving kids a
chance to go out and make some money.

926
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:43,520
However, I too agree with Clerk DeMarco.
We've done a lot. We ended up creating a

927
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:50,880
whole
policy on how we want to handle

928
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:54,800
solicitors. In the past, we never really
affected it

929
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:59,520
» and it really didn't matter and we were
getting complaints. And then with the

930
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:04,159
stuff that happened a couple years ago,
we went and [clears throat]

931
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:09,360
clerkco did a really marvelous job of
putting together a plan that we all had

932
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:13,679
to agree to.
And

933
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:18,880
it's out there. Other communities say,
you know, we really never had it. We'd

934
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:26,080
like it. Um
I'm kind of stuck saying, you know, I

935
01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:30,800
tend to agree
The third strike would certainly be a

936
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:38,000
permanent for this year is certainly no
way an H. next year basically up to her

937
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:44,640
perhaps if there were people coming in
like yourself presenting the people

938
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:48,320
going through in detail in front but
knowing it's a conditional that if

939
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:54,159
there's errors and omissions and they
are in these areas or they are knocking

940
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:59,120
or they shouldn't then that would mean
immediate

941
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:04,159
because this is a repeat thing and I
truly believe that that would be a fair

942
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:10,239
approach to this from your standpoint,
from our standpoint that this year's

943
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:15,360
100% out, but we're not here. We're in
America where we have the freedom to go

944
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:19,679
and do things, but there's rules that
have to be followed. Just like building

945
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:24,480
a house, you can't start till you have
the permits. This is the same thing. So,

946
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:31,840
I would hope you understand our
position. Um, and my only ask of perhaps

947
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:36,239
the board would be no for this year.
Maybe we'll try you again next year. I

948
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:39,360
know it's really kind of that she
doesn't want you back because she's

949
01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:42,080
wasted a lot of time on it.
>> Yeah.

950
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:48,000
» But I also know that
>> with proper supervision and that we've

951
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:51,199
had one strike, this is two. Do we go
three strikes? You're out of the ball

952
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:55,280
game permanently.
>> That's my kind of recommendation.

953
01:11:53,440 --> 01:12:01,120
» Yeah. and I fully respect and understand
that too. Um, my one question is the

954
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:05,360
majority of the concerns came up with
Skipper or Kenneth Navaro.

955
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:08,560
» It doesn't matter who who your employee
is. Okay?

956
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:11,760
» If it's one, he's a representative of
you, right?

957
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:16,960
» If you've got a bad apple in the bunch
as a management, your your job, the

958
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:21,440
weakest link in your chain can screw up
everything. So, we're not out to point

959
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:24,560
one individual. That's your job.
>> Yeah. I just mean he's been terminated.

960
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,120
» It doesn't matter.
>> He's been terminated.

961
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:32,239
» It doesn't matter. You broke the link.
The link was that individual. So for

962
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:35,840
this year, there's no way I would would
go I would go with Joe on this

963
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,120
completely and say I'm sorry.
>> Okay.

964
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:42,560
» Next year I would say perhaps but one
time. One time

965
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,679
» and it would be revoked.
>> Yeah.

966
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:48,320
» Joe, is that something that's
reasonable?

967
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:52,159
» Thank you very much. I really appreciate
that.

968
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,880
When you say it was one person. It was
not excuse me it was not

969
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:57,840
» okay
>> read read the sub what I have submitted

970
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:01,199
to you
>> okay

971
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:06,880
» and please understand
there have been so many more calls

972
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:11,440
and people coming in complaining and
I've asked them to document them and for

973
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,320
whatever maybe they don't they don't
want to they don't have time no I came

974
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:18,800
here that's why I came here I came here
to tell you this I cannot tell you how

975
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:22,719
many of those verbal complaints that
we've received it Not just one person,

976
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:27,600
» okay?
>> And it's the same thing over and over

977
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:32,000
again. No solicitation zones. I'm on the
do not neck list. They came anyway. One

978
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:36,239
snuck up behind me. Read the material
that I've submitted to you.

979
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:40,719
» I did read that one um where they were
outside.

980
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:44,800
» This is so much I took an oath to
protect the residents of Ada and this

981
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:47,600
falls right in line with that. And I
live here too and I don't want to be

982
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,120
bothered either. And I want you to know
solicitors knocked on my door

983
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,679
» and it didn't end well for them.
>> Okay?

984
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,920
» Because they were they were not even
permitted. Not your company. I'm just

985
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:01,520
saying.
>> Okay?

986
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:05,280
» This is a business model that has gone
wonky.

987
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:09,199
It's up to you to correct that.
>> But please understand that townships

988
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:14,320
have a requirement to protect their
citizens. And I'll also throw in that

989
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:18,880
many other townships around here have
adopted the same policies and procedures

990
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:24,080
that we put in place here and I'm very
proud of that.

991
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:28,320
» So I will ask you to rethink and sit
down and talk to your employees and

992
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:32,640
maybe you need to redesign your policies
and procedures

993
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,600
» enforcement.
>> Yeah, we did this year and there's a

994
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:42,080
huge change that's happened. I mean,
just uh my LLC here in in Grand Rapids

995
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:46,480
has spent over $200,000 in permitting um
throughout the Detroit markets. So, we

996
01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:49,280
are we're we're trying to make leaps and
bounds. We're trying to move forward.

997
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:52,560
We're trying to be as compliant as
possible. That's our 100% goal.

998
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,880
» Well, maybe this is a learning
experience for you to take it one step

999
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,880
further.
>> Yeah.

1000
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:06,560
» So, I I don't know if there's a motion.
>> We would need Yeah. I mean, so

1001
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:12,400
ultimately there would be a motion to
deny the appeal if there's a desire or a

1002
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:16,159
motion to grant the appeal if there was
a desire to go that way.

1003
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:20,400
» I'm perfectly fine with next year, guys.
I I'm not asking for forgiveness and

1004
01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:25,280
letting us to get back into the township
like this year. I'm just here to let you

1005
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:29,840
guys know like I'm I am hearing you guys
I do agree. I think that we need to

1006
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:34,800
follow rules better and I've terminated
guys this year just off of that. So,

1007
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:38,960
we're headed in the right direction.
Next year is fine with me. Um, I'm not

1008
01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:42,719
even I don't even need you guys to hear
me out this year. I just want you guys

1009
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:46,080
to know that I am hearing what you're
saying. I do agree it shouldn't come

1010
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:50,320
down to your time. You shouldn't have to
police other people. You shouldn't have

1011
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:54,400
to police uh other companies and we
should be better. I just ask that next

1012
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,159
year we can apply.
>> Thank you.

1013
01:15:55,120 --> 01:16:03,199
» Yes.
Well, then I will uh deny the appeal

1014
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:06,960
uh for any service yet this year. Any
more uh

1015
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:11,440
what's it called?
>> All you're doing is appealing or uh

1016
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:15,440
denying the appeal as
>> denying the appeal. But I think there

1017
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:18,960
was in the appeal here
>> it was for permanent. We don't want to

1018
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:22,960
be permanent, right? No, I mean I would
I would think it's for the current year

1019
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:26,320
and then obviously any future permit
requests would be under the discretion

1020
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:31,040
of the clerk.
>> Thank you.

1021
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:34,600
» So that's my motion.
>> I'll second that.

1022
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:49,360
Trusty Carter to deny the request appeal
for the current uh year

1023
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:56,159
but allow a reapplication in 2027 with
approval at the discretion of the clerk.

1024
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:59,920
» Is that it correctly?
>> Right. So all in favor of that motion

1025
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,800
signify by saying I.
>> I.

1026
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:10,719
» Anyone opposed?
hearing none. That motion carries.

1027
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:14,159
Thank you everyone. That one good.
All right. So, moving on to schedule the

1028
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:18,320
special work session to review revised
size of the proposed township hall

1029
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:21,760
following work by Dixon Architecture.
So, I think Julius, you're going to give

1030
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:25,199
us a bit of an update planning here,
right?

1031
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:30,320
» Yes. Super supervisor, sorry, trying to
get to the slide. Um, yeah. So,

1032
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:35,120
obviously we've now engaged with MFCI.
We're starting down the path of of

1033
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:39,840
potentially um bonding.
Uh Ken Dixon from Dixon Architecture met

1034
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:45,840
with uh department heads and met with
staff. Um and right now we're sitting uh

1035
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:50,880
he's taken the 24,000 foot building to
about 18,255

1036
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:55,679
feet with an extra 2,000 square feet
that is still white space. So really in

1037
01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:00,560
alignment with the original 16,000
square foot space need study that we

1038
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:03,920
completed uh three years ago. Um, but
obviously before we bring uh

1039
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:07,440
documentation to the board to notice of
intent to bond or what that amount looks

1040
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:11,679
like, we want to make sure we present
this to the board um have the revised uh

1041
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:15,520
plans even, you know, reviewed by
department heads and staff. And so I'd

1042
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:20,560
like the authorization to schedule a
special work session uh based on board

1043
01:18:17,679 --> 01:18:23,920
availability to review that draft
schematic design so that we can keep

1044
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:28,800
this moving forward at the August
meeting. Moved

1045
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:34,320
» second.
All right, thank you. So, we have a

1046
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:36,960
motion to set a special meeting
Julius to help us figure out those

1047
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,640
dates.
>> Um,

1048
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:46,000
lost who who moved on it?
>> I second.

1049
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:49,679
» Trust moved on it supported by trusty
Carter.

1050
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:56,239
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. Opposed. None. That motion carries.

1051
01:18:54,159 --> 01:19:00,719
Okay. So, we're now on to department
reports. The first one we'll start with

1052
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,320
is township manager report. Would you
like to go through?

1053
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:06,320
» Yep. [clears throat] Just a couple
items. Um, one I wanted to bring up the

1054
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:11,840
King County Road Commission public
hearing uh that is scheduled for

1055
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:17,440
tomorrow 7:14 at 6 p.m. here in the
assembly hall. Um,

1056
01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:22,719
the township I've communicated with um
Jerry Burn from the township or from the

1057
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:27,520
road commission. Originally, the road
commission had a policy that outlined

1058
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:32,560
natural beauty roads. Um, at their June
meeting, I believe following our

1059
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:35,760
continued persistence that they could do
what we wanted them to do without

1060
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:41,360
removal of the natural beauty road
designation, they updated their policy

1061
01:19:38,719 --> 01:19:47,600
to require removal of a natural beauty
road designation if this type of work is

1062
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:52,480
completed. Um, and so it's a little bit
of a conund conundrum because the

1063
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:56,480
township has spoken previously about
being opposed to the NBR designation

1064
01:19:54,400 --> 01:20:00,960
being removed. I don't necessarily want
to submit a letter indicating that the

1065
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:04,560
township is opposed to the NBR
designation being removed because

1066
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,760
essentially if the township is against
that then there's no point in the

1067
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:13,040
engineering moving forward and there's
no point in the conversation continuing.

1068
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:16,080
The other option is is not doing
anything. saying, I mean, the road

1069
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:19,040
commission knows our position. Uh, we
can let the public hearing happen.

1070
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:24,640
They'll make a decision at their
following meeting or I could provide a

1071
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:29,360
letter um indicating we support moving
forward with this process, getting the

1072
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:33,199
engineering, and if the if the only way
to complete any improvements to the road

1073
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:37,600
is removal of the MBR, then obviously
that's within the discretion of the road

1074
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:42,480
commission, not up to us. Um I'm going
to be traveling up to a conference

1075
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:46,320
tomorrow evening and um because it is
just a public hearing listening to

1076
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:50,159
comments was not planning on attending.
I don't know if board members plan on

1077
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:54,640
attending but I wanted to get a sense
from the board if if there was a strong

1078
01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:59,640
desire for us to issue a written
statement to the the road commission or

1079
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,640
not.

1080
01:20:59,679 --> 01:21:07,199
Julius, I just want the residents to be
satisfied with the condition of the

1081
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:12,080
road, whether that applies to having
>> the designation there or not.

1082
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,960
» It's it's how do we get the road to be
the way it should be and make the

1083
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:21,600
residents happy,
>> let's be honest. if they're we want them

1084
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:26,480
to do it right and per the residents
and if the only way that that's going to

1085
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:30,920
be achieved is the removal of the
natural beauty road

1086
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:40,320
then I'd say we have to go for that and
they say that we would be in favor of it

1087
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:45,600
but there's still the goal is that they
wouldn't come in and clearcut for 10

1088
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:49,840
foot on each side that they would do the
minimal necessary

1089
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:54,159
» to preserve as much as possible
>> and ultimately anything that is I mean

1090
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:57,199
once the engineering is complete we
would be presented with what that plan

1091
01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:01,040
would be and if the township's not
supported at that time then we then the

1092
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:05,199
township just doesn't have to fund it
>> and then you know we've spoken or the

1093
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:09,440
board has spoken and so there is still
avenues

1094
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:14,080
» sure and we need and we need that if
>> um if it they find out that the

1095
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:17,120
engineering when they look at the
engineering plans

1096
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:21,920
that we don't like it, the residents
don't like it, that we can stop it. So I

1097
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,679
would say certainly in my opinion that
we would

1098
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:26,679
» speak of another road
>> commission

1099
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:33,600
before we would we would get all that
engineering work though with the natural

1100
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:36,639
beauty uh designation already have been
removed.

1101
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:41,520
» So they need to make a decision within
30 days or at the next regular meeting.

1102
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,719
So uh their next regular meeting is in
the beginning of August. uh I don't

1103
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:48,400
believe the engineering will be complete
by then. So they would have to make a

1104
01:22:46,639 --> 01:22:51,679
decision. Now the road commission could
make the decision to not remove the

1105
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:55,920
natural beauty road designation at this
time pending

1106
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:59,360
whatever comes out of the engineering
>> and you know ultimately that's what

1107
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:03,600
it'll be because if
>> is that a recommendation we could make

1108
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:08,639
» so we could ask that and we could say
you know we appreciate the original

1109
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:13,280
petition for the NBR designation to be
removed but we would request that the

1110
01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:17,040
road commission deny it as it currently
sits to just remove it instead waiting

1111
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:20,880
until the engineering is
for the conversation to continue.

1112
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:25,679
» I I think that might be the best
approach. I think, you know, in talking

1113
01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:29,040
to different neighbors there, um and and
there's a lot of people that want to see

1114
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:33,199
it pave, but then when you say, well,
you know, your the arborite you have

1115
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,159
there, they're going to be gone. You
know, that tree that you have there,

1116
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,920
that's going to be gone. And you it's
like, wait a minute, what what are you

1117
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:44,159
saying? And uh you know, they're going
to put uh you know, he he mentioned that

1118
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:48,800
they're going to have to probably put
ditches in. Okay. And the and the

1119
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:53,840
residents that are there, I don't think
understand that a lot of them. And so

1120
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:58,000
that's why I think it would be better to
do that and get the engineering report

1121
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:02,639
so people can see this is what's going
to happen if we go forward with this and

1122
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:07,520
make sure they totally agree. Otherwise,
I see that uh if we go through and do

1123
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:11,120
this, I think you're going to end up
with some people going, I never

1124
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:16,480
understood what was going to happen
>> and I feel I got this ramrod down my

1125
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:22,080
throat. I I totally think you're correct
in that and that's why I'm saying let

1126
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:26,639
them take it off with the condition that
get the engineering done. We'll have the

1127
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:31,120
public look at it.
>> We'll describe it.

1128
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:36,000
» Maybe let the let the engineering
somebody walk the engineering and see

1129
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:40,800
what how it affects quote them
>> and then if they still want it now we

1130
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:45,440
know that we can proceed. And if they
don't want it, well then uh we know what

1131
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,800
how to
>> but I'm confused a little bit on what

1132
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,719
you said.
>> We've been talking about trying to have

1133
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:56,159
the designation left alone while
engineering is done and allowing

1134
01:24:54,400 --> 01:25:00,239
» other
kind of spoke. He did

1135
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,920
» that's I think what he means.
>> Yeah.

1136
01:25:00,719 --> 01:25:06,159
» But they're not going to do that though.
Well, so what I would request, I mean,

1137
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:10,000
what I'm basing, you know, on the
board's feedback right now is that I

1138
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:13,760
would communicate a letter to the road
commission to be part of the public

1139
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:19,600
record for tomorrow is that the township
would request that any removal of the

1140
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:24,960
MBR designation um be denied or or not,
you know, not removed at this time until

1141
01:25:22,639 --> 01:25:29,280
engineering is complete and a plan can
be presented to residents to fully

1142
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:32,320
understand the scope and impact of any
potential project.

1143
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:37,040
» There you But they just initiated in
initiated a policy saying that you know

1144
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:41,040
the MBR has to be
>> correct and it could be once the

1145
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:45,360
engineering is done. I think the concern
from some of the board members is if

1146
01:25:42,719 --> 01:25:49,120
they move forward in August with we
remove the NBR and the engineering is

1147
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:53,040
not done for a couple months and then
the engineering or the proposed

1148
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:58,320
improvements are more significant than
people think then the NBR has already

1149
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:01,840
been removed and then maybe the township
board says we're not moving forward with

1150
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:07,040
these improvements or the residents push
back and then the MBR is already removed

1151
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:10,000
» and we would only have say at that point
in time if they wanted 50% of our money

1152
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,360
» which they They will.
>> Yeah. For improvement if you're certain

1153
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,560
for that.
>> Yes, they are. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And

1154
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,600
that's what Jerry's communicated to me
when I've pushed back is he said at the

1155
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:21,920
end of the day you guys are going to
have the final say because if you don't

1156
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,920
fund the 50% we're not going to move
forward.

1157
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:27,600
» Then why move the goalpost? That's what
I I think bothers me a little bit is

1158
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:32,960
that you know we agreed to pay for half
the engineering even before having to

1159
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:38,320
remove this this designation. Now they
basically created a policy. So their

1160
01:26:35,679 --> 01:26:41,920
credibility to me is somewhat suspect in
regards to u what's going on here.

1161
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:46,159
Frankly,
>> I think you know I think they probably

1162
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:49,440
quite frankly to put it bluntly were
getting irritated that I kept bringing

1163
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:55,120
up that they could do what we wanted
them to do without removal of NBR.

1164
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:59,360
» And even though our attorneys and legal
counsel felt that was appropriate, they

1165
01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:03,360
indicated that theirs did not. And I
said, "But if you read the state law,"

1166
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:07,679
and so the way to handle this was they
updated their policy. So it became in

1167
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:13,360
their eyes less of a gray area. But I
agree it it felt disingenuous because we

1168
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:17,440
weren't notified that suddenly the NBR
policy was up for reviewer discussion at

1169
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:20,800
the board meeting uh for the road
commission and there was only one piece

1170
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:27,400
that was changed and it was related
specifically to the NBR and improvements

1171
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,400
being made on road.

1172
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:35,600
It's just my concern that you know they
Yeah, forget the 50% of the township

1173
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:39,520
money. We're going to do what we want.
Go. We've done the engineering. The MBR

1174
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:43,280
is removed
>> and you guys have your paved road.

1175
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:47,520
» I
think you're right, Kevin. But I do

1176
01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:50,320
think that if we come forward with this
recommendation from the start.

1177
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,000
» Well, it's just a recommendation. I
mean, it's not going to do anything. I

1178
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,400
mean,
>> well, it does one thing. It

1179
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:58,560
» It's on record.
>> Yeah. And it puts us in better light

1180
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:01,760
with the residents that we're
>> they just want the road fixed and I

1181
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:05,840
don't think that they were aware of what
the options were. I think going back to

1182
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:10,400
the beginning they thought that the only
option for them was to get the road but

1183
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:13,520
Julius has done a phenomenal job of
putting a lot of information out to the

1184
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:16,639
residents and everything and there's
been discussion and meetings you know

1185
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:21,280
and all that. So now they know that they
have there's other ways to go about it.

1186
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:26,159
So, as long as they know that our main
objective is to have the road fixed

1187
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:30,960
properly, but then there's this other
issue, that's up to the engineering and

1188
01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:36,199
them.
>> I think write the letter.

1189
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:36,199
» Yeah.

1190
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:42,960
» And I mean, I've spoken to residents who
want to see the road paved. I've spoken

1191
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,920
to people who want to see improvements
to gravel road. And I've seen people

1192
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:49,600
I've had people reach out and said,
"Don't touch the road. I moved here

1193
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:55,280
because I want people's cars to rattle
when they go 35. Uh and and you know,

1194
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:59,520
and they don't speak for everyone. And
so it's a big cross-section. So um you

1195
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:03,520
know, it'll be interesting to see what
the feedback is tomorrow. And we've

1196
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:07,199
communicated to the residents um what
the public hearing tomorrow is, what

1197
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,639
we've done already with the road
commission in terms of approving

1198
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:13,840
approving engineering um and so we can
continue to communicate with them as

1199
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:21,120
well.
Um, next item I want to thank uh, John

1200
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:27,520
said. So, as you might have noted uh, in
his planning director report, uh, John

1201
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:32,719
has indicated his retirement. Um, for a
date no later than December 31, 2026.

1202
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:37,280
So, he's given us a long runway and I I
appreciate that. But, I just want to

1203
01:29:34,719 --> 01:29:42,560
thank John. Um, he's been a a tremendous
asset to the team. Um he's shephered

1204
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:46,960
master plan update, zoning ordinance
update. Um has been just a wonderful

1205
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:49,920
team player and really appreciated
working with him. Um so just want to say

1206
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,760
thank you, John.
>> Thank you.

1207
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:59,040
» Um want to take a second to introduce uh
a new intern, Adam Buckwalter. Adam, if

1208
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:04,480
you want to give ways a wave. Um so Adam
is here. Um he is currently a BYU

1209
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:08,560
student uh in psychology but potentially
interested in pursuing a career in

1210
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:14,000
municipal government. His dad is heavily
involved uh at Grand Valley um with the

1211
01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:16,960
MPA program and has uh been instrumental
in us having a really good relationship

1212
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:22,639
with Grand Valley and having good
interns. So um he is currently working

1213
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:27,360
on um some donation policy pieces um
music on the lawn, some sponsorship

1214
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:31,360
pieces. Um as we continue to evolve as a
community, we get new requests that uh

1215
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:34,400
fall sometimes outside the parameters
what we're used to. So we've got to make

1216
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:40,239
sure we clean some of this up with
policies uh for our staff. Um, and then

1217
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:45,360
finally, just wanted to note that the
township has received uh the NRA

1218
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:50,159
inspection of the Kent Conser Kent
County Conservation League Gun Club. Um,

1219
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:54,400
I did share that uh via email with the
board. Um, staff has not had an

1220
01:30:52,639 --> 01:30:59,920
opportunity to review yet with legal
counsel. We are planning on doing that

1221
01:30:56,080 --> 01:31:05,840
in the um next few days. Um, one of the
pieces that is unique is that the uh NRA

1222
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:11,440
has indicated that this is a copyrighted
report and so it is not subject to

1223
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:16,080
public release. Um, which we disagree
with. Um, so we are working with our

1224
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:20,320
legal council to ensure that any release
of this is appropriate and does not put

1225
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:24,560
the township in hot water. I've
communicated it to the residents who are

1226
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:29,440
interested in the release of this report
um because we we want to be transparent

1227
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:33,520
with them. that was always the plan. Um,
we were not expecting uh this hiccup,

1228
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:38,000
but we want to make sure that we do our
due diligence in understanding the full

1229
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:42,239
legal ramifications. Um, we've also
received a media request for a copy of

1230
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:45,679
the report and so uh we need to make
sure we handle that accordingly. So,

1231
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:49,679
just wanted to make that aware uh make
everyone aware and you do have a copy of

1232
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:54,159
it. So, we will be reviewing um and then
discussing um hopefully uh you know,

1233
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:59,280
we'll have some updates at the August
meeting for um what action or or what

1234
01:31:56,719 --> 01:32:03,679
can be done, what needs to be done. Um I
know the gun club uh also has

1235
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:08,719
conversations they'd like to have with
the township about changes to operations

1236
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:12,960
and different things and so um we'll
need to vet all that and go through that

1237
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:16,480
as as we move forward. So, just want to
communicate that

1238
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:21,560
and that's all I have. I'm happy to
answer any questions uh if the board has

1239
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,560
» them.

1240
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:33,600
Just one other item. Sorry. So, a couple
years ago we made a a small decision

1241
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:37,600
that probably seemed really really in
insignificant but it has gone a long way

1242
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:42,400
and this is the temporary speed data
signs. Um, I know when we took it to the

1243
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:46,560
buildings grounds utility committee, I
know there was concern about, you know,

1244
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:49,520
us tracking more data and and, um, you
know, how were we going to use it, where

1245
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:53,760
were we going to place it, but I will
say, um, when a resident reaches out and

1246
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:56,880
expresses a concern, you know, the first
thing they say is, "Everyone's going 60

1247
01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:00,320
miles an hour. Everyone's, you know,
going this and and so we say, hey, we're

1248
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,800
going to put a speed reader out. We're
going to we're going to monitor it and

1249
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,880
then we're going to get a report and
then we're going to provide you a copy."

1250
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:12,560
Uh, and so I've provided kind of a
sample um that we had on I believe that

1251
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:17,679
was on Scar Bro. And so only one vehicle
traveled between 41 and 45 miles an

1252
01:33:14,639 --> 01:33:22,560
hour. Um 93.52%
were traveling under 25 uh and slower.

1253
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:27,360
And so it does feel good when we do see
this kind of information because we're

1254
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:31,520
dealing with data and not the anecdotal.
Um, and so this is helpful and we share

1255
01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:34,880
this with res residents and I can
communicate with the resident and tell

1256
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:38,400
them that we work with the road comm or
work with the sheriff's department and

1257
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:41,760
all this when I send them a copy of this
report

1258
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,239
the tone changes a little bit in terms
of wow I didn't realize that I didn't

1259
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:50,719
» is it because of the sign?
>> Um, so you know we've talked about that.

1260
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:53,760
Um that's one of the pieces is well
people slow down because they see the

1261
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:57,679
sign and I would say well then it's
working but also we do move them around

1262
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:03,840
so when the sign is not down so we have
had conversations about could we get um

1263
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:07,280
speed uh data collection that is not
visible and so we're having some of

1264
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,639
those conversations. It's not an
immediate priority but it could be

1265
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:15,760
something we look at uh in conjunction
with the road commission. They have the

1266
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:19,440
ability to do so. Um but you know we we
even change whether it's west facing,

1267
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:23,280
east facing, we work with residents and
so when residents reach out um it's one

1268
01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:27,679
of the first things we offer and a lot
of them have been very very satisfied.

1269
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:32,159
So um hopefully it's all of those
things. Uh as we're seeing pedestrian uh

1270
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:38,159
even vehicle behavior change in the
downtown with our slender bender signs.

1271
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:41,280
Um you know sometimes it is uh just
continuing to put it in front of them

1272
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:44,320
and reminding them that um they need to
slow down is is really important. and

1273
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:48,480
stuff. Just wanted to highlight that. I
know the board deals with millions of

1274
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:52,800
dollars of expenditures. I think the
speed data signs were $6,000

1275
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:56,560
uh that we purchased years ago and they
have been instrumental in our ability to

1276
01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:00,560
communicate and and work with the
public.

1277
01:34:57,679 --> 01:35:07,120
» Yeah. One thing off subject that really
I thought was cool and worth mentioning.

1278
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:14,920
I love the videos that you sent around
bridge installation

1279
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:14,920
» and uh that really has gone well.

1280
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:25,440
» Thank you for everything.
>> Okay, so we've got several other reports

1281
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:30,239
from um department heads. Does anybody
want to talk about anything specific

1282
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:35,159
there? Or also do any department heads
want to come up and speak specifically

1283
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:35,159
to

1284
01:35:38,639 --> 01:35:43,520
» All right. Good afternoon, the township
board. Kevin Austin, DDA director. Um, I

1285
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:49,760
just wanted to take a moment to
acknowledge uh the the entire staff's

1286
01:35:46,239 --> 01:35:54,159
effort on the 250th 4th of July. Um, I
looked at some data. We had about 11,000

1287
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:59,679
people in downtown ADA from 8:00 a.m.
till about midnight. So, a full day's

1288
01:35:56,480 --> 01:36:03,760
worth of events. Uh, for reference, when
ABA puts on some of their biggest

1289
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:07,679
events, uh, i.e. pumpkin prowl and
tinsel treats and trolleys, you know, we

1290
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:14,080
get probably 8,000 9,000 people, but
they have probably a staff of 20 to 30

1291
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:18,719
volunteers or so, uh, or more. And I
think we had 16 staff members uh

1292
01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:24,480
including uh the fantastic parks
department with their seasonal staff uh

1293
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:30,159
the BFG. Um also uh you know my my
intern Sophie Treasure Moran Julius

1294
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:33,840
Suchi was out there as well. Um so I
just want to make sure you guys are

1295
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:39,360
aware that to make sure that those guys
get their attention. Um it was a

1296
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:43,120
fantastic event. 47 different uh floats
that participated in the parade. Harkup

1297
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:46,639
was involved. They said it was one of
their favorite parades that they've been

1298
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:51,520
a part of to be inside of and witness.
Um so lots of people came through. No

1299
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:56,239
safety issues, no logistical failures.
Um the couple of children were were

1300
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:59,840
linked up with their parents when they
were lost by Ethan Angel. Uh they had a

1301
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:02,639
good system for that with the bike
parade. There are a lot of great

1302
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:07,440
pictures that we got if you guys haven't
seen them. Um really great effort, but

1303
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:10,960
about 16 staff members made that happen
uh for about 11,000 people throughout

1304
01:37:09,119 --> 01:37:14,000
the course of the day. Uh, I know we got
on a lot of people's radar for the

1305
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:17,520
parade and for a lot of different
things. So, uh, kudos to the entire

1306
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:22,000
staff and and also for the township
board for investing in um, in the 250th

1307
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:27,920
this year to make it as successful as it
was. So,

1308
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:34,159
» it was being around ADA for a long time.
That was by far the best parade and in

1309
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:39,520
day.
So, definitely good job.

1310
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:46,000
I've had several
people comment to me exact same that it

1311
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:49,920
executed flawlessly. You guys worked
your tails off and then it was without

1312
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:55,760
question the best
that we've had perhaps ever. So, thank

1313
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:59,400
you to everyone who was part of very
very much appreciated.

1314
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:08,159
Comments from anyone
>> I just wanted to mention that um photos

1315
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:13,040
that I that I gave you all for the
cemetery. Um that happened after the

1316
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:17,199
fact after I submitted my report. Um
this month we've been inundated with

1317
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:22,000
election preparation and just a reminder
early voting starts July 25th. So we're

1318
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:26,719
really up to our ears in that. Um but
then over the July 4th of July weekend

1319
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:31,679
we had um a little inclement weather and
the result is which of which I sent

1320
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:36,960
these pictures to you.
This unfortunately was a very large

1321
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:40,880
tree, but it was not in the cemetery. If
you noticed, it was on private property.

1322
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:45,679
It fell over the fence. This is what
happens when trees are dead and

1323
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:49,760
diseased. And FYI, there's a few more of
these inside Finley Cemetery that

1324
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:54,880
they're quite large and they're, you
know, I mean, I submitted information um

1325
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:59,920
to hopefully remove them as soon as we
can. And I know that sounds upsetting

1326
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:06,000
and not caring, but again, this is the
result of and weather when trees are not

1327
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:09,840
as healthy as they should be. So, we
have to go back out because it's still

1328
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:14,800
laying there like that. Um, I have to
take better pictures and investigate

1329
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:18,880
headstone damage and whatnot. So, I'm
going to get better pictures and then

1330
01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:24,480
get it cleared out as soon as possible
and then reach out to two potential

1331
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:30,320
residents whose property this actually
was on. We have a we have a really good

1332
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:35,040
idea. one of our I call him the Finley
secretary guru, John Dystra. Thank you,

1333
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:40,480
Dennis, for for letting us borrow him as
often as we do. Um, he knows that area.

1334
01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:46,480
He can he can walk it and name everybody
in there in his sleep. Um, we are pretty

1335
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:50,239
sure we have the residential address for
the people who own this part of the

1336
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:55,280
property where the tree fell. So, just
wanted to show you in detail. Here's

1337
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:58,880
what happens when trees are around
longer than they should be.

1338
01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:03,320
Thank you.

1339
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:11,119
» What's the status of the parking lot?
>> Um, you mean next to the lift station?

1340
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:14,400
» 10 spaces we lost.
>> Oh, 10. Um, so once it's backfilled,

1341
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:18,159
John, I don't know. I know. I saw him
removing forms today, so I would assume

1342
01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:20,719
it's going to be back filled shortly.
Uh, and then those 10 spaces will be

1343
01:40:19,679 --> 01:40:22,800
back in.
>> Not no repair work has been done part.

1344
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:26,719
Okay.
>> No, it was done more as a precaution,

1345
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:31,360
you know.
we we could have been okay, but um they

1346
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:35,280
went a lot longer than we thought in
terms of pulling the permit and then

1347
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:38,960
actually pouring for them. So, we
communicated with them. They came out

1348
01:40:36,639 --> 01:40:42,719
and they um
did what they could to uh put up

1349
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,679
supports. Um but we just thought, you
know, we're going to play it safe so

1350
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,360
that we don't run into a bigger issue
for ourselves.

1351
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:50,960
» Thank you.
>> And before we go, could I introduce our

1352
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:55,119
new administrative assistant, the lovely
young lady sitting back there with the

1353
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:59,199
black hair, Emma Hondorf. She's met you
all per video

1354
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:04,760
there. Just please stop by and say
hello.

1355
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:04,760
» Welcome aboard.

1356
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:16,080
» Is there any other board member comment?
>> I I got one thing. Um I got to

1357
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:20,719
experience the emergency services of the
township and uh I wanted to say thanks

1358
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:23,760
but I see all the emergency guys are
gone.

1359
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:29,199
Uh
>> yeah, they had an emergency.

1360
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:35,199
» But uh yeah, you really you end up
really appreciating what the uh what the

1361
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:40,880
township offers and the value of that.
Uh you know, when you're in a in a a

1362
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:46,320
tough situation,
and mine ended up not being that bad. It

1363
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:50,719
was almost embarrassing.
You know, they show up, they haul me

1364
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:56,239
away in an ambulance, and it turns out
to be a back spasm that I had. And I

1365
01:41:53,760 --> 01:42:00,560
thought it was, in fact, I asked them,
"Please throw something else in there."

1366
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:05,679
[laughter]
Bullet wound

1367
01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:11,280
bullet wound. [laughter]
>> But anyway, I very much appreciate the

1368
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:17,199
the services we have here at
>> you know, just a word on that. You can't

1369
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:23,679
believe we This is a years ago going
into history when we wanted to take the

1370
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:30,159
fire department from day only to a
24-hour shift. We got so much push back,

1371
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:34,560
but it was within
probably

1372
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:41,119
five or six months after doing it. We
received nothing but letters and thank

1373
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:46,000
yous. And you know, um we are a
community that cares and that really

1374
01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:51,400
shows it.
Glad you're doing well, Dan.

1375
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,400
» Yeah.

1376
01:42:53,920 --> 01:43:04,080
» Just like to make a comment. Uh the
director um said that first off, we

1377
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:08,400
still got about six months to do, so
this is not goodbye. But but at the

1378
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:11,440
moment, uh the fact that you you made
the announcement, I want to say what a

1379
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:17,119
pleasure it's been working with you
through the years. and um

1380
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:21,040
certainly was a change from our previous
planner who was here many many years,

1381
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:25,199
but you you've added a whole framework
and organization of the community that's

1382
01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:28,400
really really appreciated and um so I'm
looking very forward to all your work

1383
01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:32,880
over the next several months to finish
up what you your your kind of your uh

1384
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:37,760
your your most important piece of work
here at the township. And so just want

1385
01:43:34,719 --> 01:43:41,520
to say thank you.
>> Yeah, I'd echo that as well.

1386
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:46,556
same. But I was going to say you can't
leave. [laughter]

1387
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:55,440
» Frankly, I'm a bit envious.
[laughter]

1388
01:43:55,016 --> 01:44:00,159
[snorts]
>> All right. Uh, anything else from

1389
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:03,119
anyone? Okay. So, we'll go on to just um
an opportunity for additional public

1390
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:08,920
comment. Would any members of the public
like to come up at this point and speak

1391
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,920
to us for a few minutes?

1392
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:16,639
My name is Adam Finstra with Fenstro
Associates and I was here with uh Mr.

1393
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:21,440
Dave Woods uh the owners of and
developer of the 68 Hills the reszone.

1394
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:27,199
Um I'm a little disappointed that we
weren't given an opportunity to provide

1395
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:32,560
a counterpoint to the um presentation
given by the planner. Um

1396
01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:38,000
I the only reason why we even submitted
this was because the master plan changed

1397
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:42,639
this area from real residential to
neighborhood residential 3 years ago. Um

1398
01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:48,480
so we thought this was what you guys
wanted and now um

1399
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:52,880
we're being told that that change was a
mistake evidently. So um if that's the

1400
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:56,480
way it is, I guess that's the way it is.
But I would request that you guys um

1401
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:59,760
make sure your master plan is up to date
with what you actually want.

1402
01:45:00,159 --> 01:45:03,400
Thank you.

1403
01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:06,840
Anyone else?

1404
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:14,320
Go ahead and close the uh second public
comment and ask for a motion to adjurnn.

1405
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:21,400
» So move
>> second motion by trusted supported by

1406
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:21,400
trust to adjourn.

1407
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:27,119
» All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.

1408
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:32,239
» Anyone opposed? Hearing none, that
motion carries. So, we're finished for

1409
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,239
today. Thank you.