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Correct. Dear Lord, we thank you for the
opportunity to serve. We thank you

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for the opportunity to uh
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have the resources that we have to serve
the residents of Adams County and to

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serve all those that uh
we are responsible for. We thank you for

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the the blessing of of safety,
cooperation, and and uh uh abundance in

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in our abilities. Please bless us and
guide us in this county. Please continue

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to bless and guide the the leaders not
only in this county but through the

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state and and through
the United States and and uh continue to

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grant us
uh safety, cooperation, and and uh

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continued uh service to you. In Jesus'
name, amen. Amen.

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» [clears throat]

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» We're going to start by looking at the
minutes from the April 21st meeting.

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Anybody have any
uh comments or thoughts on those?

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» I reviewed nice little new additions or
corrections as appropriate.

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Stan, you okay with minutes? So moved.
Second. Okay. Motion made and seconded

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to approve the minutes. That motion
passes.

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Stan, you got them?
I'll get the waste and paper here. All

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right.

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Okay. Our counsel tells me we need to
suspend this meeting and move into a uh

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public hearing on the
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proposed parking lot ordinance. Motion
on that. We would need a motion on that.

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» So moved. Second. Okay. We are suspended
and moving into a public hearing on

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ordinance number 2026-4 2026-4

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» [clears throat]
>> Right. So, generally um

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as it was previously described, this
would be ordinance 2026-4.

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It's previously introduced uh two
meetings ago. Um short titled an

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ordinance regulating parking on county
owned property. Um

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for instance,
the

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permitted types of parking or is
obviously parking on county owned lots

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uh
by members of the public while actively

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engaged in in conducting county business
within an adjacent county building,

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county employees, elected officials, and
appointed officials during their hours

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of work for the county.
Uh jurors who've been summoned in jury

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duty um or operators of authorized
vehicle in the performance of official

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duties.
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Prohibited conduct under this would be
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to park a vehicle on a county owned lot
for the purpose of storage or long-term

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parking. Um
Park a vehicle that is not an authorized

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vehicle um for an extended period of
time.

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Uh
Park an inoperable vehicle. An

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inoperable vehicle would be defined
under Indiana code for a period longer

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than 24 hours unless actively engaged in
arranging for immediate removal.

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Uh per- performing non-emergency
maintenance. Um

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etc.
And then enforcement provisions.

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Generally just it's a the citation
format um that they could be any person

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in violation of the ordinance could be
liable for civil citations and

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penalties, which Is there anything about
removing the vehicle? Public charge?

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» Yes. Sorry. That would be um

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» So, that is actually its own section.
Sorry, Sheriff. It would be uh towing

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and impoundment and release procedures.
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Section A of that would be authorization
to tow. An enforcement official is

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hereby authorized to cause any vehicle
found in violation of this ordinance to

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be removed and towed from the county
lot. Um that that decision rests with

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the discretion of the enforcement
officer based on the nature of the

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violation, the operational needs of the
county.

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Um and then it goes through, you know,
obviously grounds for immediate towing.

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Um the authorization for an immediate
towing of the vehicle is that it's

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parked in an in a manner that obstructs
a fire fire lane, building entrance or

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exit, or driving lane. Vehicles parked
in an accessible space, which would be a

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handicap accessible space without
displaying the relevant placard. Um the

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vehicle presents an immediate hazard to
public safety or property. The vehicle

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is reasonably believed to be stolen or
evidence of a crime. And the vehicle is

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parked in an area designated as
temporary no park temporary or permanent

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no parking zone. Um Selection of towing
provider. Um

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It can be any licensed and insured
towing provider. Um

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Impoundment and owner notification. Any
vehicle towed pursuant to this ordinance

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shall be impounded at a secured facility
operated by said tow provider. Um and

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that the enforcement official
authorizing the tow shall notify the

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Adam County Sheriff's Department, which
is itself um and and then provide um

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attempt to provide notice to the owner
um based on license plate information if

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if applicable. So, if

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If it doesn't meet those criteria, then
we don't tow. We just make arrangements.

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But say we contact the owner and we give
them 24-hour notice and if it's not

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corrected, then then are we allowed to
tow? So, the enumerated sections based

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on the ordinance were just simply
grounds for immediate towing. Um section

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A, the authorization to tow again goes
that the decision to tow the vehicle

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rests within the discretion of the
enforcement official. So,

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um So, after 24 hours they have
rectified it after we make contact, then

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we still could Sure. For perhaps in a
situation you've given them a citation

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and said, "Hey, this needs to be moved
within 48 hours." And they don't and I

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mean again,
>> So, do So, do we give them 24 hours cuz

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otherwise they could park there every
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the day.
Well, again, I think that's a

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discretionary. I would say probably not
24 hours given that. Got you. That's

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That's after the citation. Yep. So, it'd
be a citation first.

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Um
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So, there's a a financial penalty for
the citation. Correct.

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How much is that financial penalty?

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100 dollar.

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And is it just our our county deputies
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or could that be city?
County only.

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The city can't city officers can't
enforce county ordinances.

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They can't. And I can't enforce city
ordinances. Oh.

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So, actually I left the I left the
actual fee schedule. So, civil penalties

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is under um penalties, fees, and civil
revenues is under section A. And so, any

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violation of this provision of this
ordinance shall constitute a civil

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infraction subjecting the owner to a
vehicle to a fine. The amount of fine

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shall be set, which is what we would set
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during regular meeting here in adoption
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would be then adopted officially by the
Board of Commissioners. So, really it's

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it's up to you all as to if you do um I
know from a citation standpoint and

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other enforcement ordinances, you know,
it's maybe certain amount certain amount

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first violation, second violation,
third, depending on how many citation

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you want to go cuz obviously the more of
those you want to go, it's probably more

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of an exhaustive remedy where you need
to go through every step of the

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citations before towing, etc.
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What would be a typical citation for
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I'd say 50 bucks first offense and then
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third violations.
Normally.

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» [clears throat]
>> Okay. So, this is the public hearing

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part. So, anybody interested to speak to
this um

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uh proposed ordinance, please come to
the mic, state your name, and uh tell us

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what you're thinking.

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Going once. Going twice.
Okay.

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Um I'll entertain a motion to close the
public hearing portion of this. Do we

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need to adopt the ordinance? Not before
we close the hearing. It'll be in during

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my time in the regular
>> close.

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Second.
Public hearing is closed. Ready to move

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on to our regular business. I'll bring
it back up in the play. Yeah. So,

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that'll come back then during the
attorney's presentation. So, we can move

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on to our normal regular business.
Uh Tony, what have you got for us this

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morning?
We have Allied weekly health insurance

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claims for medical.
Those are in the amount of $36,246.97.

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36 246 97.

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Any problem, Stan? Motion to approve.
Second. Motion by Stan, seconded by

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Doug. The Allied weekly claims are
approved.

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And then we have Northwind prescription
insurance claims

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for the week and those are in the amount
of $2,457.86.

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24 57 86. I did uh
verify the claimants as well.

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I move we accept the prescription claims
from Northwind for the week of $2,457

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and
56 [clears throat] cents, Tony.

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Second.
Motion by Doug, seconded by Stan. That

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motion passes.
Then we have the Allied monthly health

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insurance
claim.

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It's more of the administrative type
side. And that is in the amount of

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67,585.06.

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67,585.06.
>> [clears throat]

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» Motion to approve. Second.
Motion by Stan, second by Doug. Okay.

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Motion is approved. We'll pay that
claim.

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Then we have the payroll AP claims.
Which are all of the benefits attached

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to
payroll.

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And that is in the amount of 358,
326.91.

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358,326.91.

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Move we approve. Second.
Motion by Doug, second by Stan. Payroll

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AP claims are approved.
And then finally, you should have

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received via email the accounts payable
claims.

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And those accounts payable claims are in
the amount of 370,406.58.

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370,406.58.
And I believe that highway had a couple

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of big ones in there with equipment,
truck, something.

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And stone. Right. So it's that time of
year when And that's stone. Yeah.

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Those are bigger ones.
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» There's one for a truck, 64,892.
>> Yeah, that's probably the biggest.

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Probably. I think it was W.H. Jones,
maybe. I I didn't see anything I had

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questions on in there, so I didn't
either. I I move we [clears throat]

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we pay the accounts payable claims
as presented.

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Second. Motion by Doug, second by Stan.
AP claims are approved.

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» [clears throat]

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» Or account payable, I think, maybe,
Ardy.

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Yeah. Accounts payable claims.
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» That is technically all I have depending
Steve. Uh

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When the chairman would like the
the two Council on Aging

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drafts that you tabled. Clayton has
looked at those.

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Uh
you want to do that later? Do you want

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to do it under his time? You When you
want to do that?

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» Unless you Are you okay with doing that
in your time?

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That's fine. I mean I'm just
>> But but you've reviewed them and and and

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you're comfortable with them. Yeah, I'm
going to recommend it.

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Okay.
Okay. Let's go ahead and get knock them

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out.
>> Okay.

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Okay, and there were Steve, there's one
form that you and I signed and the other

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one only I signed.
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Uh
the first one was the pass-through

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agreement
with INDOT.

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Adams had County asked the pass-through
agent for their grant.

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» Their grant. So this is the agreement
that That's the agreement

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» operate under. Yes, and that's the
agreement that Clayton reviewed.

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Clayton's reviewed that and you're
recommending approval?

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Clayton? Correct. Okay.
You guys We do need a motion.

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Okay. Uh I'm not sure how we should word
this motion.

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Pass-through agreement for rural public
transportation.

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» I move that Stan, unless you have a
comment to make on that.

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» I'm good, for sure.
>> that we pass approve the pass-through

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agreement for
rural public transportation.

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Second. Okay.
The motion passes. I'll sign.

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» That's just your signature on that. It's
just mine and Steve's. You both sign

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them.
And then the other one that Clayton

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reviewed has to do with special labor
warranty.

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That's a special warranty arrangement.
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And if you remember, Michelle is doing
all of this to satisfy

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When was that audit? Last year. Yeah, I
think it was It was last year. I think

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it was last year regarding being a
pass-through. We need to

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» Yeah.
So this would be for the special labor

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warranty and only I
have a spot for signing it.

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» [clears throat]
>> Need a motion to uh accept, right? We

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do. Yeah.
Stan, you want to make that? Yeah,

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that's fine. I second. INDOT, right,
Tony? Involving INDOT's grant that

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Council on Aging has. Okay. For the
vehicles and so forth. So that special

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warranty agreement passes as well. Okay,
very good.

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That's out of the way.
Okay, thanks, bud. Yeah.

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Anything else for us, Tony?
That's it. Okay.

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Moving on. Nate, come on up.

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Good morning. Good morning, Nate.
Couple of different items here for you.

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I'm going to save small structures for
today, so we're going to talk about

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those quite a bit here.
The first thing I want to talk about is

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really the map that you have attached.
That is the proposed schedule as far as

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the areas that the our agreement with
Janssen and Spaans have done and what

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we're proposing to do under what is
going to be phase two. Mhm. Uh phase two

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covers six of the six of the 12
townships in the county.

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Preble and Root, French and Hartford,
and then Wabash and Jefferson townships.

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The different years from '27, '28, '29
would be included in that. Uh one of the

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additions that we have from phase one to
I'll move away from there. Good deal.

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I'll move the microphone here a little
like that. Uh one of the additions that

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we're going to have from our small
structures from previous year uh or

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years is the addition of five pedestrian
bridges. We have five pedestrian bridges

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that to my knowledge have not been
inspected since they were constructed or

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reconstructed.
That includes the South Adams Trail

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Bridge,
the covered bridge, a pedestrian bridge

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near Hanna and Nollman
uh over the the name

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Oh, I know. It just just west or south
of Washington Street connects the

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uh Woodring subdivision to Hanna and
Nollman Park on the west side of

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Decatur. Uh there's also the large
Greenway Trail Bridge that sits over the

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St. Mary's River in Decatur. And then
there is a pedestrian bridge behind

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Adams Memorial Hospital.
All five of those are pedestrian

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bridges. They're subject to uh regular
inspections, but they're not part of the

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federal program. And they're not being
inspected by anybody.

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Out of
an abundant I'll say an abundance of

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caution, but under your purview of
health, welfare, and safety of the

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public, since we do bridge inspections,
I felt that it was necessary to at least

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offer to do the inspections under the IQ
Bridge Bond. If you're able to do that,

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I think that it makes good sense to do
that. It is not an admission of

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ownership of all these bridges because
different entities have different

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involvements with each of these or their
uses. This is for an inspection and

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reporting to parks departments, both
city, county, South Adams Trail

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organization, and then again to you as a
commissioners cuz some of these do have

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parcels that are under the county
control. So I I feel that it's in our

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best interest to add that to this
inspection since there's no grant money

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that's eligible. For both small
structures, this is a good opportunity

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to do that. And it is not a full
hands-on federal bridge inspection um

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that would involve lift trucks and tens
of thousands of dollars versus what's

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being proposed currently.
Uh if you're in agreement with this

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scope and system and method,
um the proposal that I have from Janssen

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and Spaans, their total is a not to
exceed fee of 105,283.51

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over that three-year period
from '27 through '29.

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» Did you mention the one on the River
Greenway Trail? Yes. Okay. Yep. So

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there's the two of these are one's an
original uh railway

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uh railroad bridge and the other one's a
reconstructed railroad bridge.

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Certainly they were originally designed
for significant loads. I don't

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anticipate finding any issues, but I'd
rather find the issue before I get a

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call from EMA or dispatch or something
about the an issue coming up. Um this is

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just a way of making sure that if there
is a problem, these sort of inspections

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find those and then we can work with the
other agencies that are involved in

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using those structures to find out how
they want to resolve that.

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As far as
uh inspecting them, are we then

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responsible for the cost of inspecting
them? This would be This is the cost of

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inspecting them. So Even if we don't
have ownership of the bridge. Correct.

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So I felt that that was really the best
interest in it. If we want to So as part

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of this agreement, I'm not asking you to
sign the proposal from Janssen and

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Spaans cuz it's not in our standard
format yet. I wanted to talk about the

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the the philosophy, the approach, why
we're proposing to do it this way versus

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others.
The actual cost of the pedestrian bridge

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inspections with travel is 11,324.30

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out of this Yeah. So it's a little over
10% of the project overall inspections

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is just the pedestrian bridge. And part
of the reason it's that low is because

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it's being added onto another contract.
If this was stand-alone and each one of

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them was an individual inspection, it
would be quite a bit more.

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Well, [clears throat] and I think all
all the pedestrian bridges are

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are are probably owned by the parks
department and that. Uh they're either

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city city parks, county parks, and
another one is

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actually one of the two of these are
kind of like combinations because of how

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the parcels are listed.
>> I wonder if it'd be good once those

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pedestrian bridges are inspected to to
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Just so they know they're being
inspected and Absolutely. And if there's

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any issues, they would In fact, it's my
intent to take the individual inspection

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reports and then present those at city
parks board meetings and then at county

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parks board meetings and say, "Here's
what we found." And and do that really

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as a service rather than as a "Oh, by
the way, you have to deal with this." I

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didn't want to come to them with a That
way they got the reports good, bad, or

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otherwise.
>> Yeah. And that And that's that is my

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intent is that here's the information,
here's here's the recommendation from

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myself and and our consulting engineer
because they're not working with these

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consultants. They don't have the
relationships, they're not going to be

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able to negotiate those prices and the
risk. It really kind of keeps the

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control in in where I think the service
that the county has the best opportunity

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to do that. Very good. So, it's it'll
save them money obviously because we're

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we're covering that cost, but it is not
an admission of ownership of any of

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these. There's going to have to be
discussion of that. If a major issue is

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found, it's going to be very expensive
and I think there's going to be some

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serious discussions between you as the
commissioners and the parks boards at

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different levels in the city as well.
So, I don't want to find anything. I'm

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actually hoping that we don't, but I
wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't

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look into it. Nate, will will this ins-
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» [clears throat]
>> be primarily structural so we know if

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the bridge is going to fall down or can
bear the bear the weight or the load or

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whatever, or will it be from a
perspective of this is a pedestrian

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bridge and we need to make it safe for
pedestrians to walk across this thing,

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whether that be
railing and stuff like that, or is it

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just structural? It it's going to look
at a little bit of the of both. Um

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because the structures, for the most
part, they're so overbuilt for the loads

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that they have, a structural analysis
isn't necessarily going to work the

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[clears throat] same way as what I'm
going to talk about for my next part of

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this is we've got a a small structure
with emergency vehicles. You're not

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taking a fire truck across any one of
these bridges and you're not even taking

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a loaded pickup truck across these.
These aren't subject to maybe a Gator

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for an emergency access might use those.
That might be the heaviest loads you've

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got. Um really we're going to be looking
at minimal pedestrian. We're going to

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look at wear and weathering of certain
areas, prevent the maintenance that can

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be done, and looking at pedestrian
safety to make sure that if there if

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there's missing planks in a in a timber
deck on this that you've got the fall

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risks or guardrail that's damaged. So,
it it's to try to cover the purpose and

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needs specifically those types of
structures. If there's a structural

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issue, it's going to jump off the page
at all of us. Good. So, that's what we

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want to make sure we do and I want to
have a third-party document it so that

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all of us have record that this was
being done besides finding out about an

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accident and saying, "Well, who looked
at it? Nobody." Um we can we can

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actually point to specifically the
powers that be having that sort of

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response and report. So, if that if that
makes good sense, then what I'm I plan

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on doing, I don't necessarily need a
vote, but if you're good with it, then

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I'm going to take this back to them and
work with Clayton to write up an actual

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formal agreement, and then I can present
that agreement. We'll just reference

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back to today's meeting. Good. This was
sounds good.

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So, okay. Well, good.
No, didn't want to surprise anybody with

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a extra inspections, so that's that's
the intent there. So, thank you.

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Um second part is these load ratings
obviously come up now and then. During

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the inspection, um what I mostly see is
a small structure, C258

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that carries 550 north between 400 east
and State Road 101. It's just on the

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east side east of Decatur. It's been one
that I've been watching for a while to

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address. Um I don't have the
right-of-way, which is probably the

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biggest kind of sticking point for me,
but during the inspection that was done

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in 2025 comparing it to to the 2017
photos, you can see in the picture

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below, there is a facial wall supporting
against the original field rock

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foundation. That should have been in
contact. That whole area that's got the

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little red areas, those were poured
against each other and it has walked its

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way off and is now blocking access to
the to the field rock for any repairs.

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It should have been dowel or pinned into
it so it wouldn't move away, but it is

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it's really not serving its purpose at
this point, so I've asked

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uh JSE to do a load rating and inventory
this. Look at the structure, look at the

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condition, and give me a load rating and
how bad is this as a as a structure for

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condition.
Based on their draft report, they're

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recommending a weight restriction be
posted for conventional vehicle weights

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of 32 tons for gross vehicle weight.
There is also a separate emergency

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vehicle category that's established and
that's set on the weak axle

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configurations of emergency vehicles.
So, I've sent this actually over to Jeff

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Sheets at the Decatur Fire Department
already, so he's aware of it. He's the

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only one with the vehicles and maybe the
other volunteer fire departments would

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as well, but he is going to be the one
that needs to contact and coordinate

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with them. And that covers everything
from 16 tons on a single axle, 28 tons

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for a tandem axle,
and then 38 tons for their gross vehicle

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weight. So, it just changes the config-
configurations. How much does a school

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bus weigh? They are 15 tons. So, if once
we get under 15 tons, so this thankfully

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this does not affect school buses. And
the school buses would fall under that

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32-ton limit. Um it doesn't affect
the vast majority of the travelers, it's

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not going to affect public, but you're
going to see new signs show up out there

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and I'm going to get questions as to
why. Or a big farm tractor? Farm

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equipments, uh the farm tractors
themselves, there's really nothing in

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the load rating that sits up depending
on those. The tractors themselves aren't

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necessarily the problem, it's the grain
wagons and the semis full of grain.

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So, if you're harvesting out there and
you've got you're over 40 tons and you

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know it, you need to go around it. Um
the notice itself is

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for informational purposes.
Uh it's so that the public knows the

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conditions these bridges are able to
sustain regular traffic.

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If something happens and you're the one
taking an oversized load compared to

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what this is rated for, you could be
held liable and you as commissioners

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could take legal action against those
taking those loads over it.

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Don't want that situation. It's
certainly my intent as I noted, the

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earliest replacement that I can do for
this is right now 2028.

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I'm going to I'm working with Clayton to
try to get the necessary necessary

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right-of-way so that we can replace the
structure with a four-sided box and

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eliminate the guardrail and that would
make everybody happier when that's

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finally put in place. Good. Uh
unfortunately, the time frame and

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» [laughter]
>> my money for '27 is already committed to

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two other currently load rated
structures like this. [clears throat]

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Um this one is one that I want to try to
get addressed as soon as I can. So, it

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is certainly my my next highest priority
for 2028. So. How many how many

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structures I If we add this one to the
list, how many structures in Adams

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County do we have with a uh
a a weight posting like this? There This

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will make three.
And two of them two of those three, I

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already have the right-of-way and the
sizing established, so they are proposed

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to be replaced in next year. Okay. So,
this will be the only one hopefully in

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2028. Um unfortunately, I need to get I
need to work with the property owners to

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try to get this replaced and for
everybody else that's adjacent or uses

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this roadway, I need to make sure that
they're aware of it. So. So, would you

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have no
if in fact this fall harvest, if a semi

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goes across it, you're you're not
you're you're you're not

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overly concerned it's going to break
down if 80 with with an 80,000 No, I I

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this isn't When it comes to these load
ratings, I think a lot of people get

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concerned. It's like you've got this
limit and then immediately everything

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breaks. No, you've got this certain
limit that is estimated ba- based on

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certain factors of safety for repeated
regular use.

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And so, this structure is going to be
fine with that 32 tons, 38 tons

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depending on on the axle configuration,
repeated regular use. That's what that's

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estimated at. Um it would certainly take
more than that, but that there is no

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guarantee that when you start to exceed
that weight limit that you're not doing

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incremental damage to the structure,
which will then shorten its life.

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Um so, if someone were running concrete
trucks beyond that weight, hundreds of

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them for a turkey barn or something
beyond that route and using that

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roadway, that certain that repeated
regular use in excess of that, that

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could exacerbate the issue that we don't
necessarily see and could cause a

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problem.
I don't want that. I don't think anybody

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does, but
part of my role in this is to make sure

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that we provide the information that we
have. So, and if anybody's curious about

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more information about this, other
photos we have, or some historic photos,

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certainly call my office, let me know,
and I'd be happy to sit down with

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anybody
that's curious about it, but

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again, there you That's what I have.
>> need anything from us on that, or is

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that just really an update?
I uh based on my statutory authority, I

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can establish those. So, this is just an
informational report. I don't have to

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have your permission, but I don't
necessarily want to load post things

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without you being informed. Appreciate
that.

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» Cuz you're going to get the phone calls
when I just start going rogue like that.

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So, again, thank you.
All right, thanks. Thanks, Nate.

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Brad, one up.

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Morning, Brad.
Good morning, gentlemen. Um I have one

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permit today and honestly, that's about
it.

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It is for Jay County RMC, North Salem
Road between 250 north and 350 north.

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And all they want to do there is change
where the electric location

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goes into the house. And that's it.
So, basically going to be out in the

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right-of-way and

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Move we approve.
Okay.

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Approved.
And other than that, um

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700 South 000 are done. Has been paint
striped.

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That is taken care of.
We are out still patching potholes.

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Imagine that.
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00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,640
kind of business as usual. We're getting
equipment ready to mow. That time is

425
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,680
coming.
Getting the equipment ready for

426
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:08,400
chip seal, you know, normal
preparations. Getting road closures

427
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:11,280
today for flood? No, not yet. No. How
many miles of chip and seal do you

428
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,480
intend to do this summer? We're going to
try and do 110.

429
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,840
Is that above normal? That's above
normal. Yeah, last year we were about

430
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:23,280
106, which is up from normal.
But we're

431
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,080
trying to get ahead on some issues. Are
you using lessons on those? Yes,

432
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,280
correct.
Yep.

433
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,400
Other than that, that's about all I got
to report. Very good. Thank you.

434
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,880
Appreciate it. Thanks, Fred. Thanks.
Thanks, Fred.

435
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Rick.

436
00:30:37,951 --> 00:30:39,971
» [clears throat]

437
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,796
» Going to reinforce it, so.
>> [laughter]

438
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,440
» Thank you.
This is so much.

439
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,120
I want to give you some updates and then
I have a uh

440
00:31:19,871 --> 00:31:25,040
» [clears throat]
>> a new uh

441
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:30,320
preventative maintenance agreement that
I would like to present to you. And that

442
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,840
will be from the Dilling Group.
Um

443
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:38,240
it's for our chillers.
So

444
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,240
I'll just start with that.

445
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Maybe there's some of that.

446
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,720
So this is for our chillers that we have
here at the complex.

447
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Uh
the old one expires here, I believe, May

448
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,360
31st.

449
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,679
I have budgeted for this in case you
wanted to go forward and do it again

450
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,400
this year.
That dollar amount is the same as last

451
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400
year.

452
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,320
What is that amount?
>> gets paid in three installments.

453
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,040
And this is the company that installed
those chillers, is that correct?

454
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,560
» Yeah.
Did you feel like we got our money's

455
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,240
worth out of the maintenance agreement
last year?

456
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240
» I do. Um

457
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:39,080
I I do. They found a bearing in in one
that they did and

458
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Where are they located?
Here in the complex.

459
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,080
» but
In the basement.

460
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,679
» In the basement. And then the condensers
are up on the Okay. [clears throat]

461
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:53,320
Roof. I'm the roof. I was going to say
60 60-ton on the roof, I think.

462
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Scares me. Two Yeah, we have two 60-ton
in the basement.

463
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,480
» All right.

464
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,080
Each.
I should like to remove those things.

465
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Where's Dilling from?
Springfield. Uh

466
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:13,160
Logan's four four So okay. So you're
asking us to approve the

467
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,920
maintenance agreement
>> for the Dilling Group on the chillers.

468
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,080
That's correct. I see no reason we
should not proceed.

469
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Needs done.

470
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,800
I I move that we approve these 6557.

471
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:38,920
Yeah, I'll second that. Motion by Doug,
seconded by Stan, that Dilling Group

472
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:43,679
maintenance agreement's approved.
Just need signature on that.

473
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Yes.
Need more than one?

474
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Rick, is is any of this
uh

475
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:58,120
maintenance
and I know we want to do it anyway, uh

476
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,400
necessary to comply with warranty
issues?

477
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Uh
I mean, I would think certainly that it

478
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:10,080
would help if we did have any warranty
issues. Yeah. Then we could show where I

479
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:14,080
put the maintenance. Right. It It does.
Rick, once you get the invoice for this,

480
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,800
you know where to put it in your claims
and send it to Glenda, right? Uh yeah.

481
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,840
Okay.
I'll give her a heads-up that it'll be

482
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:25,679
coming.
Uh the next thing

483
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:25,679
um

484
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:35,000
there's an air handler up in the sewer
district office.

485
00:34:32,919 --> 00:34:40,120
Uh that's where it's located.
And it operates Mark Wynn's office, too.

486
00:34:38,919 --> 00:34:45,399
Um
there's a bearing going out of it.

487
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,879
I really didn't realize this, but we do
have a couple different type of air

488
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,960
handlers in here. This one's a Magic
Chef.

489
00:34:50,359 --> 00:34:57,720
Um
I can't just buy the bearing.

490
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:01,600
So I got to buy the whole shaft,
squirrel cage, fan,

491
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:06,800
which is probably going to be easier to
install. But it's about It's It's a

492
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:10,320
little over $1,500.
So I wanted you aware of that. I thought

493
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,359
it was going to be 15,000 when you
started talking there. 1,500's not so

494
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:19,440
not so shocking.
Anyway. Are you guys able to do it or

495
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:23,400
you got to have somebody come in? Um
Don Myers is going to come do it. We're

496
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:27,600
going to assist him. So
as soon as that comes in, we'll we'll

497
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,680
get that taken care of. Good.
And over at the courthouse, one of our

498
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,000
heat pumps
um

499
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,480
has a leak in it and we're going to try
to fix that tomorrow.

500
00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:47,480
We still getting pretty good response
from Don Myers

501
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:53,080
since it's under new management?
Uh maybe not as good as it was, but I I

502
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:56,480
I would say not as
That's a good way to put it. We were We

503
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,400
were spoiled.
Um

504
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,000
because Judd, which was one of the
owners, I mean, he could just climb out

505
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:08,040
from underneath the desk and
from under the desk and come over. Um

506
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:14,680
we don't have that exact response like
we did, but they've been good.

507
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:22,200
You know, one thing I can mention,
I found out Jeff Sprunger used to

508
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,200
have his own plumbing business at the

509
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:30,240
Burn area. Yeah. I guess he's back in
business to do do work if

510
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,280
I mean, I don't think it's big jobs. I
think it's But if you run into something

511
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,960
that
that is a smaller plumbing job and and

512
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:41,760
you need need emergency or quick
service, you might might keep him on

513
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:46,280
your list to call. I just found out
about that last night.

514
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:51,080
I think there are two Jeff Sprungers.
That is Jeff Sprunger married to Willa.

515
00:36:48,359 --> 00:36:53,840
Is that Jay's boy or is or Jay's brother
or is this uh Toby's brother?

516
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:57,960
» Toby's.
Okay.

517
00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:01,185
So Jeff Sprunger. Okay.
I wanted to

518
00:36:59,165 --> 00:37:01,185
» [clears throat]

519
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:09,040
» I believe there is someone
They've hired someone new at the parks

520
00:37:06,359 --> 00:37:11,040
now. I don't know the lady's name.
>> Yes. Oh, yeah. Caregiver.

521
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:14,280
[clears throat]
Yeah, caregiver. She came in as

522
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:18,600
caregiver.
I've gotten a call from the parks, but

523
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,560
not from her. It was from Chris Kroll.
I just want to know where you guys want

524
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,840
me to go with this.
It's It's It's probably been over a

525
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:30,600
year. It's when Jeremy Gilbert was here.
There's a water fountain in the

526
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:34,359
gymnasium. There's two.
There's one in the weight room and

527
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:39,960
there's one in the lobby.
And it's a water fountain that you the

528
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,200
drain is plugged on it. We tried jetting
it.

529
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:46,240
We could not get through it.
Um

530
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:50,040
I asked Jeremy at the time, "What do you
want to do?"

531
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,240
Uh he said,
"The only other thing I know to do is

532
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,640
put a lift station in it and pump it
somewhere else." And at that time, he

533
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,280
didn't want to spend the money.
The water works.

534
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:06,240
Just that they overflow. If they fill up
a water jug and the water overflows,

535
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:11,040
it's obviously going to run over because
it doesn't drain.

536
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Um I'm thinking because now that maybe
there may nothing be going on in the

537
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:19,440
gymnasium, they would like to have that
fixed.

538
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,920
To what extent do you want me to go with
that?

539
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,359
You want me to
help try to

540
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Maybe Maybe though pay for it.
>> seems like what

541
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:38,480
you know, now any repairs that we make
to this building, we would almost have

542
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,920
to look at long-term
repairs. So I I guess that's the way I

543
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:46,800
would look at it is what's going to be
the best

544
00:38:44,359 --> 00:38:51,226
uh long-term
for this situation that they have.

545
00:38:49,206 --> 00:38:51,226
» [clears throat]

546
00:38:53,680 --> 00:39:01,400
» So it would be the only place for it to
to replenish a water bottle. Is that No.

547
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:05,720
There is There is two. There's one that
you have to go down into the weight

548
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:10,560
room. In other words In other words,
down where the weights are, there is a

549
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:14,400
water fountain down there. Okay.
Or you would have to come in the service

550
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,080
complex and get on the second floor to
get water.

551
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:24,160
Yeah, we probably need to have a place
where we can do that at.

552
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,359
I mean, the water does work. It's just
the drain.

553
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:31,040
» You can get a drink like a regular water
fountain or you can fill up the jug up a

554
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:35,120
water bottle. Right. But if they run it
over,

555
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,120
you got a mess.

556
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,240
It feels to me like we need to resolve
that drain problem.

557
00:39:39,642 --> 00:39:44,400
» [clears throat and cough]
>> I don't know what's going on with it. I

558
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,960
mean I've had it I think we jetted it
twice and just couldn't get through it

559
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:52,000
for some reason.
>> Wow.

560
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Sounds serious. I don't know if it's
if it's a pipe that's clogged. One time

561
00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:01,360
I got coffee grounds out of it. You know
how hard packed they get.

562
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:06,040
I mean
Anyway.

563
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,400
I believe that's all I got except I
guess

564
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:13,960
myself and Sheriff
>> At the courthouse

565
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:18,640
we got all the quotes in to use the
bottom floor

566
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,800
for prisoner transport. There's a old
door that needs replacing. It's an

567
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,800
oversized door it's like two doors
together.

568
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:29,480
The quote is on the last page that I
gave you a packet of. That's closing

569
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:34,000
that in to make it a standard steel door
steel frame door.

570
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:40,640
That's a 48 42 50.
And then the other two quotes the one

571
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:43,560
right on top of that is to
put that on the fob system into the

572
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:48,240
network
where we don't have keys. We have fob

573
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,560
that gives us access to get in and out
that door

574
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,640
especially for the transport officers
and then for his people too. We don't

575
00:40:53,320 --> 00:41:01,280
have that master key floating around
that gains access. That's the 44 34 06.

576
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Uh
and then the hallway door from inside

577
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:10,320
the basement is the top quote to fob
that door also so again we don't have

578
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,800
keys.
My my transport officers won't have

579
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:19,000
keys. They'll just have the fob that
they already have and Bob can program

580
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:23,600
who needs access to that. If a fob is
lost we can shut it off and that's

581
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,680
that's not an issue. So
those three

582
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:31,480
uh
items estimates we're going to have to

583
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,120
use that and if that does come to
fruition

584
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,640
there's a
we will start using that for permanent

585
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,720
transport of prisoners in there so we're
not taking prisoners up the stairs

586
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,440
through the main hall to the elevator.
We'll just go in ground level through

587
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:51,840
the boiler room down the hallway to the
stair to the elevator then up the court.

588
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:55,080
So it's a much
safer [clears throat]

589
00:41:52,640 --> 00:42:00,280
way and less interference and less
contact with our citizens when we're

590
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:05,840
dealing with prisoners. So I'm asking
that these would be approved and then we

591
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:09,880
pay for them out of the Hume courts. So
this is two separate doors?

592
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:14,640
I mean the one one on the outside
>> is getting replaced. The other door is

593
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:21,080
just getting wired up
to the network fob system. Got you.

594
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:26,320
Sheriff as you know one of the options
that we're considering for the justice

595
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:31,480
center is to utilize the
historic courthouse which is what we're

596
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:37,000
talking about here remodel it move spare
court into the first floor keep circuit

597
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:42,040
court on second floor that probably will
involve some type of right in the middle

598
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,040
there's a discussion of a sally port and
how the how prisoners would be brought

599
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:50,720
into there.
Obviously that's a ways down the road

600
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:56,920
but it may not be a long ways down the
road. That would be one of the

601
00:42:53,640 --> 00:43:00,000
first things we would probably start on
um

602
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:04,440
as we would want to
probably probably would wait till after

603
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,840
construction of the new building. So I
guess maybe

604
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:15,200
if if this solution is only going to be
used for pick a number two years

605
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,960
would you still recommend doing it?
Or if we're going to throw it away after

606
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:24,160
two years what would you say? My
question also is how long have we been

607
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,400
doing it the way we're doing it? Well
we've been doing it forever and it's not

608
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:34,160
the proper way of doing it.
>> I understand to Steve's point. So let's

609
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:40,720
say it's two years so if we break that
down this is about a

610
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:45,680
$500 a month investment
for that and I would still recommend we

611
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:52,880
do that because honestly
the exterior door is not to par to begin

612
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:55,800
with. Even if we did want to use it for
the

613
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,040
take the prisoners in
it need that door needs replaced no

614
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:04,000
matter what.
>> What what what what if we waited just Do

615
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:07,080
we know a few weeks until we
until we begin to develop a plan.

616
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,080
» Yeah do we know an answer what we're
doing? And and and then what once we

617
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:16,120
look at the plan we can say yeah that
those doors are still going to be there

618
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:19,320
after remodel whatever let's do it or no
they're going to be gone but they can be

619
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:23,040
reused somewhere else or we reuse it
again or

620
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:26,160
maybe if you we just kick the can down
the road a little bit.

621
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,200
» that and then my question to you would
be okay

622
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:34,359
then
in that

623
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:37,440
plan once it comes to truth is the other
building going to be built first before

624
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,960
that cuz then if that drags it out the
four years then I still say we need to

625
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,680
do
I think we're looking at four years but

626
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,359
it wouldn't surprise me if we're looking
at two. And I think your assessment $500

627
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,520
a month is is
Yeah. That that's a good way to look at

628
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:56,359
it. If we just throw it away at the end.
Well in the hardware itself the the the

629
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,120
they call them
what do they call them the

630
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,800
the readers the proximity readers so we
could reuse those on other doors. So

631
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:10,000
some of the hardware we could do but the
exterior door

632
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:14,600
again that needs done no matter what. So
nothing else I still say we move forward

633
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,240
with that and we can hold off on adding
to the the network issues. Which one's

634
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,920
which one?
>> The very last page.

635
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,359
That is
>> 48 42 50.

636
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,120
» Correct.
And I don't know if we're going to be

637
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:27,640
able to do that.
>> problem going along with the door. That

638
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,359
feels like a maintenance issue. Would
you agree with that Red? That's a

639
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:34,720
maintenance issue. Do you have that in
your budget or do we still need to do

640
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:38,680
that out of Hume courts? Well you would
have to pay that out of Hume courts. If

641
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:42,520
you did that out of Hume courts
I understand that. I can I can pay that.

642
00:45:41,861 --> 00:45:47,600
» [clears throat]
>> How do you mean you can pay that? Okay.

643
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:51,640
So I guess we'll hold off on adding the
fob systems but we still move forward on

644
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,480
replacement of that door that he can
handle through his normal budget.

645
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,840
That's the door. We've been hearing that
that door is bad for years and

646
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,760
especially when the clerk moved new new
election equipment down there and stuff

647
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:07,200
like that.
Sounds like plan to me. So we'll we'll

648
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:11,520
hold off and then once
determination

649
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Nope he's got that in his budget so
>> Well yeah if you want me to replace it

650
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,280
you can you can make that decision.
Okay.

651
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:22,120
So we'll hold off on the fob system
until plans made on final decision of

652
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:26,000
the judicial side. Good conversation
guys. Thank you. Thanks.

653
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:33,400
Megan's here on Facebook. Oh Megan come
on up.

654
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:40,120
Even better.
And she's got a stack of papers.

655
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,120
Just one? Oh just one. Okay.

656
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Okay that's under them. How's the
Sheriff going to bring a second one?

657
00:46:44,359 --> 00:46:51,000
» Yeah yeah let's do that. That's nice.
We've got a new toy.

658
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,800
Yeah we played with this
is this is on the what the plan

659
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,640
commission had the other night. Yeah.
>> No this is not the reason. This is a

660
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:03,800
subject
Okay all you're replacing Mark this one.

661
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,800
Yep.

662
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,680
But you got that other thing on the
agenda too right? Usually

663
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:13,680
[clears throat]
usually the lawyers present that.

664
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Clayton has it Clayton has it okay.
Okay what is this one?

665
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:29,200
So this is on 450 north and 200 west
and it's a [clears throat] little bit of

666
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,720
a special
deal going on.

667
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,000
Um you can see the original partial
comes all the way up. There's a portion

668
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:42,160
here. Right now they're working with
Mark Burris' office to get this um

669
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,920
used to be a railroad
to get that transferred into their name

670
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:51,200
and they're going to make that a
subdivision up north.

671
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,560
So we're kind in the middle of a big
process right now.

672
00:47:53,400 --> 00:48:00,200
How many acres are you talking
altogether? Um that looks like it would

673
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:03,600
be an 80 altogether.
Yep it's three lots.

674
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:10,400
So this is an existing
and an 18 and a three and right now

675
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:15,359
they're building a new house This is a
lane? Correct. Wow. It's a long lane.

676
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:19,960
You can see that's actually an existing
partial they're just including it into

677
00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:24,000
the subdivision.
Well your design committee went through

678
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:29,200
this I'm sure. Yep.
It's been signed off just I haven't had

679
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:32,400
Mark sign it yet but both Joe from the
health department and Mike surveyor So

680
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,960
are they doing it as a major
subdivision? Because it's multiple

681
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:42,000
partials each partial can have a
subdivision. Okay. So

682
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:46,560
like even this
here already has two partials cuz that's

683
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,600
a partial right now
and that's a second partial so right now

684
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,800
they're doing two partials into one
subdivision

685
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:59,120
and then they're going to get this
transferred into their name. It's a

686
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:03,760
a vacated railroad.
So this right here is this right here.

687
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,160
Correct.
So we're missing this

688
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Pam Lingerc.

689
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,040
So there's going to be another one
that's up here. The reason it's not

690
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:20,080
approved it's because it's
So there

691
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:25,760
so this will be the subdivision. Yeah
it's going to come down.

692
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Yes. Right west of Richards. Yep.
So this is the old clay factory area.

693
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:36,000
So there's going to be on the old grade
use. Right. So there's going to be

694
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:41,440
another subdivision coming later that's
on the west side or the east side and

695
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,440
going north.

696
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,080
Okay, second.

697
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,520
I was waiting for and bears on my

698
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,760
Maybe one of their Detroit sports fans.

699
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Well, Indiana is getting the Bears,
ain't they?

700
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:31,640
Um, if you want to. Yeah, it shouldn't
take long. Um

701
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Yeah, so then I'd be presenting um
ordinance number 2026-6, which is short

702
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,600
title ordinance of the Board of
Commissioners of Adams County, state of

703
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:47,240
Indiana, which rezones the property at
6091 North 500 West, Decatur, County of

704
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,240
Adams, state of Indiana.

705
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:54,360
It would it's the the ordinance would be
rezoning the relevant property from its

706
00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:02,000
current
zoning of agricultural to

707
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,000
I1 light industrial.

708
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:12,000
The applicant and the property owner did
um go before the Plan Commission and uh

709
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:17,120
the Plan Commission did come back with a
uh recommendation of do pass.

710
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,240
And I do know the property owner is
here. If you have any questions, you

711
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:24,760
have them. What what's the ordinance
number? 20 or 26-6.

712
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,640
2026-6.
>> tell us what the use is going to be or

713
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:32,320
give me any details on
Okay. I'm sorry, what fab

714
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:35,360
Okay, fab shop. Yeah, we had a lengthy
discussion at Plan Commission meeting

715
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:41,320
and it was
unanimously a positive recommendation.

716
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:45,840
I abstained from that vote,
but I knew it would come here,

717
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,400
so I moved it unless there's further
discussion or questions. What what's the

718
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:53,800
address?
Um

719
00:51:50,320 --> 00:52:00,080
6091 North 500 West.
It's off of 224. It's the first place

720
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,080
going north on the east side.

721
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Yeah, it's a rezone from current ag to
I1 light industrial, I1.

722
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,480
What's the acreage acreage isn't large
right now?

723
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:18,840
» One. One acre. One acre. It's all
uh the Surrey district. Yeah.

724
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:22,840
I move that we approve ordinance 26-6.
I'll second that. Motion passes.

725
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,640
Thanks, Megan.

726
00:52:57,441 --> 00:53:01,680
» [clears throat]
>> That was actually uh

727
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:05,480
prior to the rezoning
that um

728
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:10,080
there was a subdivision plat that split
that into two lots.

729
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:13,600
Um and that was approved through
um

730
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:18,600
Plan Commission and then Commissioners.
So it's actually lot one

731
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,160
in that subdivision is what's being
rezoned.

732
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,720
There's a copy down here that we're
signing

733
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,920
I just need you to test that one
signature and sign it.

734
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:41,520
There's copy number two of that guy. So
I'll take a copy of Steve's. Megan want

735
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:44,600
one, do you want one?
Sign one for Brooke. Sign one for

736
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,320
Brooke. Okay. I'll give one to Brooke
and to Megan.

737
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:02,480
Okay, are we all done with Plan
Commission?

738
00:54:00,359 --> 00:54:07,440
If so,
Rachel.

739
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:13,000
I said 11:00. It's uh
not too not too bad for my timing.

740
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:17,480
No. Thank you very much for having me
this morning. Can you hear me okay? We

741
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:20,240
we can. If I could just do a a quick
quick intro here.

742
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,760
Um
Rachel Cardis is with American Structure

743
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:29,080
Point.
And back uh well over a year ago,

744
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:33,480
probably a year and a half ago now.
Um at two years ago, we started with

745
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Surrey Committee, many of who are are
are out here today. I appreciate them

746
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:41,040
coming.
Uh we started with a steering committee

747
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,760
uh talking about uh
uh a a vision plan, a vision for Adams

748
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,600
County.
And we first tried to answer the

749
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:52,600
question of do we even need a vision
plan? What's a vision plan?

750
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:57,280
Uh what what all does it entail?
And we kind of wrestled all those uh

751
00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,960
questions to the ground, ultimately
decided that we really uh it would be

752
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,480
beneficial
uh

753
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:07,720
to have uh
to create a vision for Adams County, a

754
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:11,880
future vision for Adams County.
Um

755
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:16,880
And so we we listened to uh
how other counties have done it. Uh it's

756
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:21,440
not new to county governments to
uh to work through a vision plan, 20 or

757
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,720
30-year vision for the county. Uh so
that's um

758
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:29,520
that that that's And and then we started
looking for a partner that could help us

759
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:32,920
do that. Uh and we interviewed
I believe we interviewed five. You guys

760
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:38,000
correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have my
notes in front of me. Who did we

761
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:42,320
interview? Five uh applicants to be a
partner to help us craft this vision

762
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:47,359
plan. Ultimately, we chose American
Structure Point. Uh Rachel Cardis was

763
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:51,840
assigned as our uh as our project
manager. And so we've been working with

764
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,800
Rachel and her team now for well over a
year and a half. Is that Is that

765
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:59,000
correct, Rachel? Feels like it feels
like longer than that, but a year and a

766
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:03,560
half or so. Yeah, that's about right.
And we have we've gone through uh many

767
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:07,600
many steering committee meetings. We've
gone through um

768
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:13,560
uh public presentations. We've gone
through public information gathering

769
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:19,760
sessions. We sat Rachel and her team sat
at 4-H Fair and uh and Swiss Days and uh

770
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:24,359
uh various concerts in Decatur just
gathering public input. Uh we we did a

771
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,800
uh
uh

772
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:32,800
uh a
a survey and we received uh

773
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:38,160
uh I know it was over 500, 600, or 700
uh responses to that survey. Uh

774
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,840
and so what you're seeing today, and
this is a presentation to the

775
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,920
Commissioners,
uh what you're seeing today is the

776
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:48,200
proposal from the steering committee.
Uh

777
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:52,640
we would uh ultimately like you to
consider this to be adopted uh by the

778
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,800
Commissioners as a vision plan for Adams
County.

779
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,800
Uh we won't ask you to do that today
because I know it's a lot of

780
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:02,920
information, but Rachel's kind of going
to walk us through that plan. I've got

781
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,880
hard copies for each of you.
Um

782
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:11,880
just to kind of follow along.
But uh Rachel, what am I missing

783
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:15,920
uh other than a a great a huge debt of
gratitude to the steering committee for

784
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:21,240
all of their hours? Uh those of you that
are out here, thank you. Uh many uh we

785
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:26,160
had several that were here last week.
Uh and and Rachel was a little bit under

786
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:31,600
the weather and we needed to uh to
postpone last week. Uh

787
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:36,000
Thank you, Steve. But uh but here we are
and and we've got a uh a vision for

788
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,240
Adams County that we'd like to talk
about. So Rachel, if you wouldn't mind,

789
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,359
take it from there.
Thank you, Steve. I wanted to just say

790
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:47,240
it's been a great experience. It's been
about 14 months or more, almost a year

791
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:51,359
and a half of getting to know Adams
County and it's been you guys have a

792
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,400
unique, wonderful community and it's
really been a pleasure to be able to

793
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:58,560
work with you guys over the past year
and a half and I'm kind of proud to be

794
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:03,160
able to show you this and showcase this
and bring it to fruition. So I thought I

795
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:07,359
would go over you do have hard copies
and you can dive into each page and let

796
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:11,680
us know kind of your thoughts and your
comments, but I'd like to just give you

797
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:16,280
an overview of how we came to be, what
the process was, what were some of the

798
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:21,359
key findings. As Steve said, we did lots
of engagement with community stakeholder

799
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:26,760
interviews. We did public engagement. We
were at Swiss Days. We were at Adams

800
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:32,000
County Fair, Decatur concert series. So
we did a lot of a lot of getting out

801
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:35,240
with the public in in the process and
kind of bringing some of those

802
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:39,880
sentiments back on what what the public
wanted to see for the future vision of

803
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:43,560
of Adams County. With that, I'll just go
ahead and kind of get started.

804
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:47,800
Make sure Can you guys see the
presentation there okay?

805
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,120
Yeah. We can. Okay, just want to be
sure. I can kind of see it in the back

806
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:56,359
of the room, James, and so that's good.
So over the year course of the year, we

807
00:58:53,200 --> 00:59:01,520
did three phases. Phase one was educate.
Phase two was explore and phase three

808
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:05,040
was empower, kind of where we are now.
Under phase number one, we really got to

809
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:09,560
know you at a data level. We did a kind
of a a due diligence on what your

810
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,880
economic conditions are, what the retail
climate is, what you're looking at as

811
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:18,400
far as parks and placemaking. And we
took all the existing plans from the

812
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:22,280
from the county, from Berne, and from
Monroe, from Geneva, and all the

813
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,680
communities, and we collectively just
made a very good baseline of data to

814
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,000
work off of to help the steering
committee understand what are the

815
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,000
current trends of population, what are
the what are the projections for the

816
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:37,160
future, what are the housing trends that
are affecting your community now? How

817
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,160
are we going to look at getting
attainable housing in the future? So,

818
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:45,920
the first phase was really to get to
understand the steering committee, to

819
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:49,960
hold interviews, to do public input, and
also collect that data to present to the

820
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,400
steering committee as well. Then we
moved on to phase two and we really kind

821
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,280
of rolled up our sleeves and we started
brainstorming.

822
00:59:54,760 --> 01:00:00,880
Steering committee members, I give them
a lot of credit. They stuck with us and

823
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:04,920
did lots of visioning sessions where we
were able to kind of bounce ideas off of

824
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:10,360
each other from what came back from the
public input and put those into goals

825
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:14,560
and recommendations. And where Structure
Point kind of differentiates from other

826
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:18,440
firms is we make sure we don't just
leave you with a plan, with things that

827
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:21,480
sound good. Like, that's a great goal.
How are we going to achieve it? How are

828
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:25,480
you going to fund it? We leave you with
a playbook to say, "Hey, here's all the

829
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,760
steps that you need to achieve this.
Here's the funding sources. Here's where

830
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:35,280
you go after this is done." And I think
one of the key things that came out of

831
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:39,880
phase two here is that we have a Adams
County Vision Plan Task Force. So, after

832
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:44,640
this, the plan won't just sit on a
shelf. There'll be a task force and

833
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,680
everybody's going to kind of understand,
"Okay, these are year one initiatives.

834
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,760
These are mid-term initiatives. These
are long-term initiatives." So, that's

835
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,680
what we kind of looked at and
brainstormed in phase two. Phase three

836
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,440
is what I'm going to show you today,
getting towards adoption and

837
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,120
recommendation to implement into the
county.

838
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:09,120
So, the key components of the vision
plan as you go through today, we focused

839
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:13,880
on economic development, cultural and
livability, transportation and

840
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:18,680
infrastructure, housing,
education and health services, the Amish

841
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:23,440
community, which was a big focus and
lots of common conversations around that

842
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:28,920
and lots of focus on that as well, youth
engagement and retention. So, these are

843
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:32,720
our seven key components that will have
themes, that will have recommendations,

844
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,880
that will have strategies as you go
through the vision plan.

845
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,440
Under [snorts] the public engagement
summary, I wanted to highlight and I

846
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:45,760
won't go through um each one of these in
in in heavy detail. If you want to

847
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,680
really review that, you can get with
through the plan. But, I wanted to bring

848
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:54,600
to you what's on the mind of your
residents. Whether we were in Monroe,

849
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Geneva, at the county fair, what kind of
came back to us not only in public

850
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:03,600
surveys and open houses, it was
preserving the rural character, um

851
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:09,280
making sure that the agricultural
heritage and legacy remained intact, um

852
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:14,040
balance for economic growth. They wanted
to see small business thrive, but also

853
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:18,640
have the ability to have larger
employment economic base, larger

854
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:24,040
manufacturing facilities, larger
employment um opportunities for the

855
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,920
residents either from commuting in or
leaving to go out to Allen County, to

856
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:31,920
Fort Wayne. They felt like we needed to
look at balanced economic growth.

857
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:35,960
Infrastructure and connectivity, we
spent a great deal of time with the

858
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:40,240
county highway departments and really
understood kind of what the issues are

859
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:44,480
that are unique and germane to Adams
County. So, you'll see that further down

860
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:48,920
the presentation, but we we really heard
that back from, you know, not only the

861
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:52,960
county highway director, but we heard
from residents saying, you know, we need

862
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:57,840
to improve our roads this way or, you
know, we have these Amish impacts or we

863
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:02,520
have to look at how can we look at this
towards the future to make sure that our

864
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,600
that our county is well connected. And a
lot of the infrastructure and

865
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:09,480
connectivity didn't just deal with cars
on the road. It was, you know, whether

866
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:14,920
it was Amish buggies, whether it was
being able to do bikes and trail systems

867
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:19,160
and really growing your park system in
Adams County and kind of getting the

868
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:22,920
ball rolling that way. It's just people
really were seeking out different

869
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,600
recreational amenities.
Quality of life was a big key component

870
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:31,680
that came back. What would make, you
know, young people that move back to the

871
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:37,440
area? What amenities will be here in the
future? Housing diversity, that was the

872
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:41,440
big one. There's a lot of um it's not
unique to Adams County, but just the

873
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:45,880
housing diversity and being able to
afford entry level or kind of that

874
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:49,600
missing middle and understanding the
frustrations and some of what's going on

875
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:53,320
with the housing market
um from people that want to live in

876
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:57,520
Adams County or feel they they have to
kind of, you know, shell in and and stay

877
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,840
where they are just because of the kind
of the trends in the housing market.

878
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:06,560
Agricultural and environmental
sustainability, this was a big one as

879
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:11,440
well, just protecting your heritage, but
growing strategically.

880
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:16,520
Um community identity and pride, this
was very big. Uh I I I want to say, you

881
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:20,200
know, in all my years of of doing this,
I've never seen three high schools that

882
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:24,640
have so much individual pride and I
think that's great. I think that makes a

883
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:29,680
a very um
very healthy rivalry and a very um

884
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:33,240
prideful community. It just really
um shows you guys really give a lot of

885
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:37,760
to your schools and you really take a
lot of pride in your your activities,

886
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,400
your sports, your academics. So, that
was something that kind of came through

887
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:47,200
with the
with the public engagement as well.

888
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:52,120
So, Penna, that's an overview of all the
surveys, the conversations, all the

889
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:55,440
events that we had. And so, when we
brought this back to the steering

890
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:59,520
committee, it's how do you harmonize all
the public input from the survey? How do

891
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:03,200
you harmonize everything that comes out
of the steering committee? How do you

892
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:07,160
harmonize everything that comes back
with the stakeholder interviews and put

893
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:11,720
it into an action plan? So, you start
with a lot of ideas and you brainstorm.

894
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:16,120
So, the ones that I'm going to cover
today, I just want to say that they've

895
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:20,000
been thoroughly vetted by the steering
committee before we brought them before

896
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:24,760
you, before we put them in the plan. And
it was really a prioritization exercise.

897
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:29,600
So, before we picked the the following
critical path strategies, we said,

898
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:33,600
"Which ones really float to the top?
Which ones are critical to the future of

899
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:39,200
Adams County and which ones do you want
to see come to fruition?" So, with that

900
01:05:36,359 --> 01:05:43,960
said, I'll segue into the first one.
Um the first one is the transportation

901
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:48,640
strategy. There, the critical path
strategy that I I referred to before

902
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:53,120
shows you exactly the action steps that
you need to achieve to get a a capital

903
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:57,680
improvement plan and program in your
community, what the estimated cost is,

904
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:02,520
the time frame, and we work with the
county highway director very closely to

905
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,800
understand what the needs and the unique
needs of the road systems are within

906
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:11,440
Adams County. So, this was one of the
prioritization exercise. This one

907
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:16,800
floated to the top. So, one of the key
strategies is to develop a capital

908
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:21,560
improvement plan and program.
Under housing, we spent a lot of time

909
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:25,600
understanding, you know, what the
development market is. We worked with

910
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:29,800
the private builders in the community.
We talked to property owners. We

911
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:34,280
understood from the sentiment of, you
know, not just second and third

912
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:39,760
generation of where the housing market
is now and the need for housing. We did

913
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:43,880
our own demographic and trends and
looked at what kind of housing stock you

914
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:48,280
will need for the future.
And, you know, with all that

915
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:53,320
conversation and all that input,
the steering committee really felt to be

916
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:58,800
able to incentivize housing growth.
Whether that's looking at your zoning

917
01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:03,880
regulations to look at mixed density, to
maybe allowing more density or a variety

918
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:07,840
of housing types. They did not kind of
key it under any one principle. They

919
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:12,400
just wanted to make sure that we're
looking at our ordinance standards,

920
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:16,920
we're looking at our housing strategy,
that you're looking at, you know, the

921
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:22,440
future of Adams County to be able to
open up the variety of housing that can

922
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:27,200
be allowed and make sure that you're
planning for the future to have housing

923
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:31,640
in strategic locations. Whether that's
around Decatur, whether that was around

924
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:35,280
Berne, whether that was around Monroe or
throughout the rural residential areas.

925
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:40,800
We're going to look at housing
throughout that, um kind of following up

926
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,800
on the housing task force.

927
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:50,880
The next was the Amish community. We had
a great process. Um we were able to

928
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:56,640
discuss some of the key issues, not
just, you know, from the residents as

929
01:07:54,040 --> 01:08:00,200
well as the Amish representatives. We
had bishops that attended

930
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:05,200
uh one of our steering committee
meetings. I was able to get out and meet

931
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:11,320
a couple of the bishops on a a couple of
occasions to really understand what they

932
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:17,000
would like to see for the future of of
Adams County and what are some of the

933
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:21,560
key issues they're facing and uh kind of
as a result of all that communication

934
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:25,759
and opening up about the issues and kind
of talking about pros and cons on each

935
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:31,040
side, it was decided through the task
force to involve um an Amish

936
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:35,960
representative to, you know, be named at
a subsequent date, but to have them on

937
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:40,839
the Adams County Vision Task Force and
be able to bring issues, whether it's

938
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:46,040
schools, whether it's hospital,
education, whether it's one was a very

939
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:49,799
big one was public transportation
um availability to employment

940
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:53,440
opportunities, not just for the younger
generation, but for the senior

941
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:57,160
population. So, I think there's going to
be a lot of discourse in the future, but

942
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:02,600
I really like the channel that was
opened up during this process and kind

943
01:08:59,799 --> 01:09:06,440
of a real kind of firm understanding of
some of the things that the Amish would

944
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:10,640
like to see from Adams County in the
future and and vice versa. And so, I

945
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:16,120
think that's a a great starting point
that this plan is has done.

946
01:09:13,839 --> 01:09:20,920
Economic development, um I want to thank
Colton Bickel for all of his input and

947
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:25,200
all of the time he has spent. He has
been our liaison as as well as

948
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:30,920
Commissioner Bailey on this project. And
so, working with Steve to understand

949
01:09:28,839 --> 01:09:35,279
um the dynamics right now with economic
development in Adams County. One of the

950
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:39,680
key initiatives was to come up with an
inventory of all the business community

951
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:44,080
to understand available properties to
kind of start that public private excuse

952
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:49,839
me public private partnership
discussions with property owners not

953
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:56,440
with just key downtown economic areas
but with a small to medium-size

954
01:09:51,720 --> 01:10:00,400
employers and different parcels that may
be amenable to open having open

955
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:05,360
development and those discussions in the
future. So just looking at how to

956
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:10,760
diversify the employment, diversify the
building type but also too it landed

957
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:15,120
really into what kind of amenities and
entertainment and attractions outside of

958
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:18,680
business and having employment in Adams
County can we look to to kind of grow

959
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:23,200
different business strategies from an
entertainment and a place making

960
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:28,360
perspective. And so this plan does a
really great job of that and this is

961
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,360
just one of those initiatives.

962
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:35,760
Small business growth as I said we
talked a lot about downtown

963
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:40,480
economic development. You guys have a
host of wonderful festivals and

964
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:45,000
community events that you hold. You
really cherish your downtowns. We really

965
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:49,600
just want to kind of continue you know
looking at succession planning, how to

966
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:54,520
grow small business, how to retain them.
Colt does a fantastic job. This is

967
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:59,120
really just to bring all the communities
and not you know not that they operate

968
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:03,440
on a silo basis now but it's really just
to kind of build that that network

969
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:08,320
between all the downtowns throughout
Adams County and see where they can kind

970
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:12,600
of build on partnerships and help
networking events, help kind of you know

971
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:16,160
support each other through the business
channels and and bring them together. So

972
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:20,480
that's what this initiative is all
about.

973
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:25,360
Youth engagement. This was a a great
discussion that we had throughout

974
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:29,800
the process. We really wanted to
understand right now what is there to do

975
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:34,160
for young people in Adams County? Where
do they hang out? What would be some

976
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:39,120
desired amenities whether it's place
making and and things to do downtown or

977
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:44,600
understanding you know sustainability
for your future. Are you going to in 5

978
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:49,880
years have the same amenities that you
had for the youth today? And so kind of

979
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:55,440
looking at youth retention it wasn't
just for coming back and having a job

980
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:59,760
and affordable housing but the amenities
to be able to say if we live in this

981
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:03,480
community and we travel to Fort Wayne
for entertainment or we go to

982
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:08,600
restaurants here, it really took a a
deep dive to kind of look at and say how

983
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,800
are we going to look at the future for
you know not just our high school

984
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:16,800
graduates but the generations that
follow. How are you going to sustain

985
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:22,120
your population outside of employment
and outside of housing and what can we

986
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:25,440
do to kind of drive the impetus to be
able to say we're going to create great

987
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,200
parks. We're going to create great
trails. We're going to have

988
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:33,720
a sense of place and a sense of
community that way. So that's you know

989
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:38,600
step by step and you know it doesn't
happen in a day and you know it'll take

990
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:43,080
getting this this task force going but
like I think that the the vision is

991
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:46,800
there to be able to to say here's what
we would like and we're going to kind of

992
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:52,120
take it step by step. So that was a
great part of that initiative as well.

993
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:57,720
Well Steve I'll I'll turn it back to you
to open up for any questions or anything

994
01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:02,520
you'd like me to to cover throughout.
Happy to answer anything that anyone

995
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:05,840
would want to ask.
Good. Thanks Rachel.

996
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:09,480
Start with I know it's a lot to start
with the commissioners. You guys uh

997
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:13,160
thoughts, anything you heard? We're not
going to uh

998
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:18,200
not going to ask you to adopt this today
but ultimately would like you to

999
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:24,080
consider like us to consider adopting
this plan or some version of this plan

1000
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:27,480
as our as our vision for the future.
So any questions or thoughts from you

1001
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,080
guys then we'll open it up to the
public.

1002
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,040
I have a couple. Stan you have? No, go
ahead. You're fine.

1003
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,480
Uh
I just

1004
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:43,480
This is first I saw it. So I just
briefly gleaned through it.

1005
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:49,680
I think the statistics on the Amish
population is significantly

1006
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:54,440
lower than what the vision plan has.
I think it mentioned 11,000.

1007
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:58,000
I would say that the Amish population in
this county is

1008
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:00,680
much closer to
uh

1009
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:06,280
I'll just [snorts] throw a figure out
that I think is fairly accurate 18,000

1010
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:11,640
at least.
And my second

1011
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:16,720
you know I I guess your question is you
we're not going to we're not going to uh

1012
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:21,960
I I I I I don't see a problem in the
future of what what was your

1013
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,640
language that you said to adopt to adopt
it?

1014
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,840
» Adopt this as a as a vision
>> as a vision plan. I I don't I don't see

1015
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,960
any problem in the future of adopting
this.

1016
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,520
Um
I guess I would like to know a little

1017
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:36,600
bit
um

1018
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:41,080
I guess without giving this a lot of
thought and a lot of study

1019
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:45,640
my my first impression is that this is
kind of a

1020
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:47,680
road map Very very aspirational. It's
not not

1021
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:52,720
» It's kind of yeah it's kind of a road
map. It's not the

1022
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:58,840
it is not the
Adams County comprehensive plan use

1023
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,040
ordinance that we have. land use
ordinance

1024
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:05,400
And
I think this road map

1025
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:10,160
would be
of assistance

1026
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:15,600
to the plan commission members as they
consider possible changes to the

1027
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:23,040
ordinances on land use.
I think that's what we had in mind was

1028
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:29,640
drafting something that that reflected
the aspirations of Adams County

1029
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:34,280
residents, what they see
for the future and what they hope for

1030
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:38,680
for the future of Adams County and then
as we begin to think about the

1031
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:44,480
comprehensive land use plan and other
ordinances and things that that factor

1032
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,600
into that how those things work together
and complement each other.

1033
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:53,560
Yeah, because
you know having sat on the plan

1034
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:57,800
commission
for many years

1035
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:01,800
and currently on it
when

1036
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:06,360
when discussion comes up about
things such as

1037
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:10,880
uh such as I'll just throw a couple
examples such as wind turbines or

1038
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:14,600
discussions come up with
uh

1039
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:20,520
things such as solar farms
you know then

1040
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:26,840
as that discussion is evolves
we go back to the comprehensive Adams

1041
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:30,520
County comprehensive land use plan and
say

1042
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:36,040
what is the general what's this general
I could see this as

1043
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:42,600
as a supporting document
as we as the plan commission

1044
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,600
investigates major decisions. I agree.

1045
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:50,720
So it's kind of like I guess my my
interpretation would be it's kind of

1046
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,720
like a road map. Yeah.

1047
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,560
Stan thoughts? First thoughts?
>> I guess I'd like to spend some more time

1048
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,960
with her.
Absolutely.

1049
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:04,760
» I I think it's been approached
very thoughtfully with starting with the

1050
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:08,240
public input with
with the steering committee input and

1051
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:12,760
with the assistance of American
Structurepoint and so

1052
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:17,080
you know it's been been very
thoughtfully developed. So I'd I'd like

1053
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:20,440
to spend some time with it. Good. But
yeah. Yeah. I know the steering

1054
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:25,440
committee spent just hours and hours and
hours in this room and outside this room

1055
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:29,280
talking about um
first talking about the mechanics of how

1056
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:35,640
we would gather a vision. You know when
you think of county of 35,000 residents

1057
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:39,880
um and and how do you
collaborate or collectively gather their

1058
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:45,520
thoughts
and and put that into some kind of a of

1059
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:50,240
a vision for the future um
you know how we sample those those

1060
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:53,800
thoughts and gather those thoughts and
and then try to assess and analyze those

1061
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:58,800
with steering committee and with
Rachel's help um trying to

1062
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,880
understand what was being said and what
the what what the

1063
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:05,040
uh
that

1064
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:11,320
that vision was it just it just took
quite a bit of time and and um

1065
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:14,840
and so um Valuable sir. I I think it was
I think it was very well done. You know

1066
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,880
I I'm assuming there was probably grant
money available to help put this

1067
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:21,560
together.
>> Well we we actually used some of the the

1068
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:26,320
ARPA funds. Okay. So it it was
we we used some ARPA funds to to help

1069
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:31,120
put it together. Well one one thing I
would mention

1070
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:35,240
along with the Adams County
land use

1071
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:40,120
uh plan
is

1072
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:44,800
those kind of documents including this
when you have a different set of leaders

1073
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,600
you have a different set of elected
officials

1074
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:55,000
you know
none of us are going to be here forever.

1075
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,000
I've I've seen these kind of things

1076
01:18:55,200 --> 01:19:01,120
someone says well you have a
comprehensive land use plan or now we're

1077
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:04,840
talking about a a vision plan.
And sometimes new leaders that come in

1078
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:09,600
say
well

1079
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:13,440
where are they? So so you grab you drag
them out of a cabinet and shake the dust

1080
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:19,920
off of them.
And so I would like to see not only this

1081
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:26,080
but in the in the plan commission on the
comprehensive plan I would like to see a

1082
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:31,160
some type of a review or some type of a
system and I think that was mentioned

1083
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:36,640
somewhere in in her presentation
that it's revisited on a periodic basis.

1084
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:39,520
» And Rachel help help me if I'm wrong
here, but

1085
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:44,520
I think it's our intention for each one
of those major categories to basically

1086
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:50,040
have a uh a
a team or a group that works to kind of

1087
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,840
flush out those
uh

1088
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:59,840
those
areas of focus and continue to build out

1089
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:03,320
specific action items and and help us to
uh

1090
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:07,640
bring this vision to reality
near term and long term.

1091
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:12,200
Uh so I think that
that's kind of where we're at. Is that

1092
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:16,160
correct, Rachel? Yeah, it's it's dead on
where you guys say it's a playbook and

1093
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:20,400
so it can be tweaked, but I really the
Adams County Vision Task Force each one

1094
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:24,280
of those initiatives that come out of
the plan what do we call responsible

1095
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:28,960
party or I call them kind of the
community champion that's going to get

1096
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:32,440
the baton passed to them to spear off,
you know, what that initiative is and

1097
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:36,920
they're going to be able to use their
their staff or whoever they assign to

1098
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:41,880
that actual initiative and you guys are
going to meet however frequently is

1099
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:46,840
necessary to say, okay, where are we on
this initiative? How are we progressing,

1100
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:50,320
you know, how much funding, you know, to
basically look at it as what's our

1101
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:54,520
collective needs to keep the needle
moving in all these areas.

1102
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,160
So yes, yeah, it's it's very much
treated like a playbook.

1103
01:20:56,120 --> 01:21:02,080
I would I I would hope that as
commissioners we have an expectation

1104
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:05,760
that periodically whether that's
annually or maybe twice a year or

1105
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:08,960
whatever that we would get an update
from

1106
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,640
those responsible parties. Where are you
at on this? What what are you thinking?

1107
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,680
What's your team thinking? What have you
done? What are you trying to do? How can

1108
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,760
we help?
>> Steve, but

1109
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:23,200
who who are who are these responsible
parties?

1110
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,840
What department in county organization
does this fall under?

1111
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:30,000
» Yeah, I hear you.
You know, and that obviously it's it's

1112
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:36,480
ours. We're going to adopt it. So I
think it it is ours, but a very natural

1113
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,360
responsible party for like for the
economic development piece very natural

1114
01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:43,600
for
economic development to try kind of

1115
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:49,040
drive that piece. But when we think
about uh health and welfare, I know part

1116
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:55,320
of that group was Dr. Smith, you know,
from the hospital. So there'll be

1117
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:59,120
a kind of a mini task force that I don't
know whether we've actually identified

1118
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:02,720
who each one of those folks are and
who's going to be on that mini task

1119
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:07,120
force, but there'll be a mini task force
associated with each one of these

1120
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:10,280
primary objectives and I would expect
that they would be they would come and

1121
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:14,360
report periodically to the commissioners
how they're doing and what's going on.

1122
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:18,520
Well, I don't know that we've got to
that level to that level yet.

1123
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:21,400
» don't want to I don't want to have
I don't want to see this laid in in the

1124
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,480
cabinet somewhere.
>> Yeah, that that was my fear from the

1125
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:27,320
beginning.
That was my fear from the beginning is

1126
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:31,920
is that we not just have this
aspirational vision that that sits on a

1127
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:35,720
shelf and nobody even remembers 5 years
from now and we're trying to paint a

1128
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:39,880
vision for the next 20 years and 5 years
from now it's it's dust. So we don't we

1129
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:44,040
don't want that. I'll I'll throw in a
little comment, too. I know being part

1130
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:48,640
of those committees, it's not just
necessarily finding some appointed

1131
01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:52,240
person or a salaried position that says
it's your job to then go and implement

1132
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:56,480
the vision plan, Steve. I think that
there's there's opportunities within

1133
01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:00,280
that of different service organizations
and other volunteer groups. What this

1134
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:04,320
helps you do is it gives gives the
county here's the things that we've

1135
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:07,920
we've heard we want to see and there's
service groups and clubs and groups that

1136
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:11,680
have that are volunteering time and
they're looking for opportunities to

1137
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:15,440
participate in this. It allows you to
try to work within that vision as well

1138
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:19,760
and say here's how we want to try to
partner with with different areas.

1139
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:24,960
Well, [clears throat] well, one of the
areas of focus that we had was that kind

1140
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:28,880
of that Amish community um
and and

1141
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:35,080
my hope
is that an outshoot of this discussion

1142
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:38,000
is some kind of an ongoing dialogue with
a a representative

1143
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:41,600
um
portion of the Amish community between

1144
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:46,000
the Amish and and Adams County
government and we begin to talk about

1145
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:51,080
things like transportation struggles and
and and other issues that are that that

1146
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:55,560
are prevalent that we just kind of
as of today we're just kind of uh

1147
01:23:53,920 --> 01:24:01,240
um
accepting, but how do we begin to be

1148
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:05,720
proactively plan planful in a in
approaching those challenges and

1149
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:09,720
opportunities. So again, I think it's
still I don't know that we have all the

1150
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:13,560
answers at this point. Um but what we
tried to do is over the last couple of

1151
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:20,120
years just at least identify the major
questions and the major challenges and

1152
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:20,120
then put together some um

1153
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:28,320
objectives with some strategies that we
can begin to attack those Yeah, I think

1154
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:31,920
I think the most
I'm not being critical. I think Rachel

1155
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,680
you did a great job. Steve, your
leadership in this was

1156
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:40,040
was very good. I think we've got a nice
very well organized document. But I

1157
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:43,160
think where the rubber's going to hit
the road

1158
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,160
where the rubber's actually going to hit
the road is during plan commission

1159
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:50,760
meetings
when we have

1160
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:57,680
when we have some major discussions on
land use in the county and then we go

1161
01:24:54,560 --> 01:25:02,000
back to as a plan commission members are
trying to make a recommendation to the

1162
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:07,280
commissioners like we had this morning,
okay, on on Mr. House request, okay. I

1163
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:13,600
think where rubber's going to hit the
road is when we can say

1164
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:18,480
when the plan commission is discussing
what is the overall

1165
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:24,124
comprehensive land use plan in Adams
County currently and if we're talking

1166
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:27,280
about changing an ordinance, then
>> [clears throat]

1167
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:32,040
» we could refer to this document.
This could be an added document along

1168
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:35,600
with the comprehensive plan.
>> I I think probably that's a great

1169
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:40,160
example of how this document might
influence those discussions. We we heard

1170
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:44,320
um
pretty loud and clear that the

1171
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:48,640
agricultural
uh culture

1172
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:52,760
the rural culture and the agricultural
culture of our community is very

1173
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:58,080
important to the residents that we heard
from. And so when we think about from a

1174
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:02,920
plan commission perspective and maybe a
comprehensive land use perspective, when

1175
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:10,520
we think about those aspects that may
detract from that agricultural

1176
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:13,800
or rural culture that we value
you may be able to go back to this

1177
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:20,000
document and say, now wait a minute, I
remember in the vision plan when we

1178
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:25,400
drafted this vision for the future, it
really held that in high importance that

1179
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:30,840
we not detract from that
uh rural culture that that we have. So I

1180
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:35,040
think you're exactly right. We don't
have the details in here of how that

1181
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:40,440
lives out, but I think we have that
aspiration that says

1182
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:43,520
we like that aspect of of
life in Adams County. Don't mess that

1183
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:47,440
up.
So I think that's what And again, you

1184
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:51,120
know, it's it's one thing for me to sit
here for the three of us to sit here to

1185
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:54,360
be quite honest with you and say, yeah,
that's our vision.

1186
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:58,560
But you know, all every one of the three
of us won't be here someday and whose

1187
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:04,200
vision is that going to be then? But
what we tried to do as best we could was

1188
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:08,560
create a vision of the residents of
Adams County. We didn't get 35,000

1189
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:13,560
visions and try to put that into a
vision, but we sampled thousands of

1190
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:16,640
people and tried to put that into this
vision.

1191
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:22,720
Yeah, and I you know, here's a good
example. On page 87

1192
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:27,000
it says, how important is it for Adams
County to preserve its rural and

1193
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:33,880
agricultural land?
And the survey said 53.7%

1194
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:38,960
thought it was extremely important.
And then it went to 27 very important.

1195
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:42,560
So I think that is a good indicator.
>> So a total of 80% felt that it was

1196
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,040
extremely or very important that we
preserve the

1197
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:49,240
» And and I think the plan commission
should take that into consideration

1198
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:52,400
during discussion. And I think those
are, you know, when you think about the

1199
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,760
play of a parks board and a parks plan
and

1200
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:59,400
we have a
hospital board and we have all these

1201
01:27:56,719 --> 01:28:02,440
different entities that
that

1202
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:05,719
do forward planning and forward
thinking. I think this is something that

1203
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:11,480
can help them. Yeah, I hope
>> And so so it carries one step further.

1204
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:15,520
And I'm not being critical at all. I
think this is well done. But it you can

1205
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:19,560
always take it one step further and say,
okay, let's look beyond the plan

1206
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:24,680
commission on making decisions. That
would be when we get requests for

1207
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:29,160
subdivisions out in the in the county
and things of that type, you know, this

1208
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:34,760
could be a leading this could be a
not a game changer, but a consideration.

1209
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:37,760
Yeah, I think it's done well. Stan,
other thoughts before we pass it out to

1210
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:43,040
the public?
I I think we have to take a

1211
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:48,080
real hard look at uh what our
administrative responsibilities are as

1212
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:51,320
commissioners. You know, we are here as
a county government. The county

1213
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:54,200
government has core responsibilities,
but we also have peripheral

1214
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:59,719
responsibilities
to support and facilitate uh

1215
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:04,240
quality of life issues. You know, like
4-H is a big one, the extension board.

1216
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:08,640
We've always supported that. Uh things
like that. So, you know, back to back to

1217
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:14,760
Nate's point
you know, you you've got uh

1218
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,760
uh other

1219
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:23,680
uh board
>> uh boards and and people that they would

1220
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:27,440
have a specific [snorts] interest in
specific parts of this

1221
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:31,560
to promote
things. So, you know, as far as the

1222
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:36,600
parks board, I think it would force us
to take a good hard look at at the

1223
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:41,240
cooperative efforts we do with the city
and and

1224
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:45,520
you know, to to provide better better
county parks and Right.

1225
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:48,720
» And a big part of it is housing, too.
You know, for years we've said, "Oh, we

1226
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:53,520
need more housing. We need more housing.
We need more housing." Well,

1227
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:56,607
we can facilitate that. But as far as
county government, we can't build the

1228
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,640
first house.
>> [clears throat]

1229
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:03,600
» So, you know, we have to be able and
prepared to facilitate some of the

1230
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:08,680
things in here even though as county
government um we're not going to go out

1231
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:13,600
there and build 100 houses. But we can
facilitate plans and zoning

1232
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:17,200
to to help those people that are
building houses. So,

1233
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:22,360
» Sure. we have to kind of really look at
what our responsibility as commissioners

1234
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:28,720
in county government is to facilitate
this plan. So, you know, and and to look

1235
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:34,040
at the organizations that may
may be willing to

1236
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:38,080
participate in in the in some of these
goals.

1237
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:41,680
Um
Thoughts from the public?

1238
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:47,840
You all are here or many of you here are
just specifically for this topic.

1239
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,840
What do you think?

1240
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:54,240
Anybody? Come on up. State your name,
please, and

1241
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:05,800
Good morning, uh Wiley Sirk. Hi, Wiley.
And and this is a little more granular

1242
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:10,320
than I than where you're at right now,
but you just talked about need for

1243
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:15,800
public transportation.
And uh I it really is a and I'm not

1244
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:22,720
really telling you anything new. It is a
need across the whole county.

1245
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:27,720
Uh I recently learned of one example of
how it could very much benefit some

1246
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:34,000
individuals that are
working to improve their themselves,

1247
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:40,800
their future. And that would be at the
Merit Center, at the Literacy Alliance

1248
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:44,920
classroom, where young adults, well, not
adults, are working to complete their

1249
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,960
GED.
>> Yeah.

1250
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:52,840
And there are cases where
they can't get there.

1251
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:58,760
And it's even to the point where they've
had to give up on completing their GED

1252
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:03,840
because of no transportation. So, I just
wanted to share that one little piece

1253
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:06,960
there. Uh a little more granular than
where we're at right now, but

1254
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:11,320
» But but I think your point the the point
that I would take out of that, Wiley, is

1255
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:14,600
there are many things that I don't see
as commissioner.

1256
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:18,040
When when when Michelle Lingor came to
us and said, "We need public

1257
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,520
transportation. We need we need to work
on this um

1258
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:25,400
this
effort throughout the county." To be

1259
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:29,960
quite honest with you, my response was,
"Really? I didn't know that." So, I

1260
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:36,840
think until you look at
take a project like this and survey

1261
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:42,200
as many people as you can and try to
solicit those that vision and build that

1262
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:47,800
vision from as many people as you can
possibly work with,

1263
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:50,680
we miss many things. I miss many things.
One of those would have been public

1264
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:55,160
transportation. Now, Michelle has done a
great job with kind of try to build that

1265
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:58,440
out and offer that. And I would hope
that

1266
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:02,960
that somebody who's pursuing a GED in
Adams County can get to class. Right.

1267
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:07,160
Now, but
that wouldn't have been the case two or

1268
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:13,280
three years ago. The the difficulty
right now is these are evening classes.

1269
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:17,080
And so, So, obviously that's another gap
we need to address. Yeah. So, Yeah.

1270
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:21,320
Point well taken. If I can speak to
that, I mean, when when Michelle came to

1271
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:26,240
us,
she

1272
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:30,880
facilitated this whole plan
uh and attempted to go through Wells

1273
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:36,520
County and and that was not agreed on.
So, because of the plan she put together

1274
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:42,040
for the 5311 transportation plan, she
expanded it from health and medical

1275
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:47,360
needs to a full public transportation.
And that was a huge huge I mean, we are

1276
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:50,960
light years ahead of where we were.
And then to the for the county to

1277
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:54,760
facilitate that, we purchased the
property, built a building for all the

1278
01:33:53,360 --> 01:34:00,160
vehicles,
uh and uh

1279
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:05,040
facilitated an office for her.
And I I think we have made huge strides

1280
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:08,440
in public transportation.
>> We have.

1281
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:13,360
» So, so the last thing that I would be
critical on is is moving public

1282
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:17,240
transportation ahead cuz I think we have
done, you know, we we have a lot of

1283
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:21,885
money not only out of the commissioner's
budget, which I think this year was

1284
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:24,800
44,000 for the operation, but
[clears throat] also out of the local

1285
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,920
uh
uh

1286
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,720
the lit taxes
to facilitate.

1287
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:36,840
» Sure. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm not
disagreeing, but you

1288
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:41,160
we are light years ahead of where we had
been. But again,

1289
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:44,680
this is another little component, but
yet it's a major component for those

1290
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:49,640
that it's impacting.
>> But that that public transportation came

1291
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:54,840
out of this study as one of those areas
of focus that we need to work on. Now,

1292
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:58,480
um and I don't think any of this
um steering committee members, you guys

1293
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:01,680
chime in here. Um
I don't think any of this was meant to

1294
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:06,720
be critical of where we're at today.
It's meant to be visionary of where how

1295
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:09,840
we can even be better in the future. So,
we do have we are light years ahead of

1296
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:14,040
where we were two or three years ago on
public transportation. Are we where we

1297
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:19,600
need to be yet? Probably not. So, we can
do better. So, I think this is all just

1298
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:23,920
And I This is not really intended to be
critical at all of where what's happened

1299
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:27,880
in the past. It's meant to be more
visionary of where we can be in the

1300
01:35:25,480 --> 01:35:31,120
future. Exactly. And I would do anything
It's just a general statement, too. I

1301
01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:35,120
commend you
gentlemen for this

1302
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:41,800
this
vision plan. And I agree it's it's an

1303
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:43,160
excellent road map uh to work through
the

1304
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:47,680
the future.
>> Yeah, as far as public transportation,

1305
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:52,240
you know, your example was a great one,
Wiley. You know, this this

1306
01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:55,680
young or middle-aged adult that's trying
to get a

1307
01:35:53,600 --> 01:36:00,840
his diploma,
if we can identify that person

1308
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:04,840
and provide that transportation day or
evening, I think it's critical.

1309
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:09,480
Likewise, in the southern part of
county, if someone needs a medical

1310
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:14,040
attention, a doctor's appointment, and
they don't have a way to get there, you

1311
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:18,840
know, some sometimes we just assume
we've been blessed. We have a way to get

1312
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:23,000
there. Sometimes we forget the people
that weren't blessed or as fortunate as

1313
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:26,080
us. I would go out of my way to make
that happen.

1314
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:30,600
However,
no matter what service you provide,

1315
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:34,680
you can be taken advantage of if you're
not careful.

1316
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:38,520
And one of the items that
kind of

1317
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:45,880
I had a little bit of a uh uneasy
feeling was, you know, visitation.

1318
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:49,320
You know, do you do you stretch out your
transportation

1319
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:53,000
to go pick up someone down in the
southern part of county to visit someone

1320
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:57,240
else?
So, you always got to be constant

1321
01:36:54,920 --> 01:37:02,560
constantly of of
of being taken advantage of.

1322
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:08,480
I will serve the people that need it.
But I'm always got an eye on

1323
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:13,040
it this is stretching a little bit. So,
Sure. But But speaking to it, I mean,

1324
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:18,960
both you and I, we kind of come from
education, so we very much understand

1325
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:22,880
the importance And and
and obviously education was another

1326
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:28,280
aspect that came out very very high in
this vision as far as being important to

1327
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:36,200
the future of Adams County. Yeah. And
this classroom serves Adams County. They

1328
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:40,640
average probably 10 to 15 students at a
time. They and they've got it's a

1329
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:45,880
revolving door cuz they're working to
graduate. So, because there's more

1330
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:48,880
waiting to come in. You bet. You bet.
But Thanks, Wiley.

1331
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:51,880
» much. Thanks, Wiley. Other other
thoughts from anybody?

1332
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,960
Kelly, I know this is something that
you've that you've watched. I know you

1333
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:03,560
weren't necessarily part of the steering
committee, but you we've talked a lot

1334
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:08,920
about where this is at, where it's
going, and how library functions. And I

1335
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:13,000
told you about my aha moment with the
Amish community and how uh in in the

1336
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:16,640
conversation right there in that
hallway, we talked about how important

1337
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:21,080
the library system is to the Amish
community. And that was another blind

1338
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:26,520
spot of mine. So,
this going through this process for me

1339
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:30,880
the last couple of years has really
opened my eyes to a lot of blind spots

1340
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:35,000
that I had of vision of Adams County
residents that didn't necessarily wasn't

1341
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:39,040
Steve Bailey's vision. And that's the
reason that I really felt it was

1342
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:44,280
important that we go down this path and
take the time and engage an organization

1343
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:48,360
like Rachel's organization to uh
to to find a vision that was something

1344
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:53,240
more than just one or two or a half a
dozen people's thoughts.

1345
01:38:51,719 --> 01:38:57,680
Any thoughts, Kelly?
I haven't seen this I know. And I'll

1346
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:01,480
we're going to get Rachel, I know that
this is available online. I'm going to

1347
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:05,160
make sure that we get everybody the
opportunity to look at this online. Even

1348
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:09,920
though this is not this is still in
draft form until the commissioners feel

1349
01:39:07,719 --> 01:39:13,640
comfortable adopting it, this is still a
draft, but I'm we're going to point you

1350
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:17,280
toward the
the website where you can actually look

1351
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:20,960
at this at what we're talking about
today.

1352
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:25,040
Okay. Absolutely.
a while ago Yeah.

1353
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:30,040
Sure.
Ra- Ra- Rachel, thoughts or where can we

1354
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:33,880
find this at? What is that? Yeah, I will
post up on the screen the project

1355
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:37,440
website so everybody can take it down.
Happy, you know, if I'll put my email on

1356
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:42,680
there as well if you have any questions,
but I'll put the project website up.

1357
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:47,424
What is that? Can you read it off,
Rachel? Some- it's pretty small here in

1358
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:49,444
the room and my eyes are old.
>> [laughter]

1359
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,440
» Just 1 second.
Sure.

1360
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:03,160
Will be on the county website there's a
place It is. There's a There's a There's

1361
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:08,680
a button on the county website to the
vision plan and if you if you if you

1362
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:10,880
click there, it'll take you to the
website that that Rachel's going to give

1363
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,440
us.
>> Okay. Okay.

1364
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,160
I think you're on mute, Rachel, if
you're talking to us. If you're not,

1365
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,640
that's
>> Oh, no. I'm sorry. I'm just going to

1366
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:42,360
unshare my screen this way and then pull
up your your vision plan and then Okay.

1367
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,840
» the website for everybody. Just 1
second.

1368
01:40:56,199 --> 01:40:58,219
» [clears throat]

1369
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:16,280
» Yep.
What if we forget to leave that you guys

1370
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:21,080
signing those though? Okay. While While
Rachel's working on that, um

1371
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:23,280
Aaron Selkin was one of our steering
committee members from the beginning if

1372
01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:26,400
I don't
We had We kind of added steering

1373
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:30,320
committee members and
as we went along, but I think Aaron was

1374
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:34,080
on along for the whole ride. Thoughts on
the process? How comfortable were you

1375
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:37,680
with it? What did you think?
Well, the whole reason why I wanted to

1376
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:42,160
stay involved with it was I just felt
like there was a disconnect between

1377
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:44,680
the cities and the county when it comes
to housing.

1378
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,960
And
I think that with this county sewer

1379
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:51,440
project, I think it's a great thing. It
cleans things up.

1380
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:54,200
My concern is leapfrogging on
residential.

1381
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:04,880
I think the city and the county need to
work better on buffer zones

1382
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:09,560
that that surround cities and theater
where the city actually wants to grow

1383
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,560
and the county work with them.

1384
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:15,760
But I think I think that as we talked
about the whole housing

1385
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:19,920
challenge as we talked about through the
vision plan, I think that better

1386
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:24,480
collaboration and cooperation between
the city and the county and kind of an

1387
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:28,760
expectation of where the natural and
most appropriate housing growth is,

1388
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:31,200
I just think we have to do better at
that.

1389
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:39,600
And if you tack on your concern, Aaron,
which is well taken,

1390
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:43,920
if you go
to from the middle count part of the

1391
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:49,040
county southward,
the housing situation is is also an

1392
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:53,040
issue, but a little bit different. Quite
a different challenge. And that's where

1393
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:59,000
I think instead of doing the setbacks,
and I've had this conversation with you.

1394
01:42:56,480 --> 01:42:59,000
But with

1395
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:08,280
I I think they should have limited to 20
acres on on a subdivision in rural Adams

1396
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:11,920
County versus a setback.
What you're seeing is they're taking a

1397
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:16,480
20-acre farm and now it's getting turned
into a subdivision.

1398
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:20,720
And you have more of an issue there than
what you do Well, we did it We did

1399
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:26,120
address that somewhat several years ago
when we put an ordinance on how much how

1400
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:29,480
many times you can split a parcel.
It slowed it up some. Some.

1401
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,560
Some.
Well, obviously we've got some work to

1402
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:37,440
do there, but those are those are things
that

1403
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:41,840
um that I think part of the vision is
that we get our arms around that. The

1404
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:46,200
actual execution of how to do that is
not in this book. So, we have to figure

1405
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:50,960
that out, but the vision is that we do
figure it out.

1406
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:54,880
I do know techniques right and it helps
It helps the city indicator. It helps

1407
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:57,280
the people that are
you know, different all all the

1408
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:01,160
different things that they're able to
have a road map themselves.

1409
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:05,600
What the county actually wants. Right.
Yeah. Right. I agree.

1410
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:09,400
And you know, we can we can assume we
know what

1411
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:13,560
the vision is for Adams County, but
until you begin to ask the residents

1412
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,480
what their vision is, I think it's all
just an assumption.

1413
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:22,640
Rachel? Yeah, I found it. It's
www.advancingadamscounty.com.

1414
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:29,680
More than happy to I'll send a a link to
the all three commissioners and if

1415
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:34,520
there's anywhere else you would like us
to disperse that, we're happy to have

1416
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:38,000
our communications department put in a
newspaper or, you know, make sure we get

1417
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:41,960
the word out that the draft is
available, but the draft is available on

1418
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:46,160
that website.
Advancingadamscounty.com.

1419
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:49,160
All one word. Yep.
www.advancingadamscounty.com.

1420
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,400
Yep. Yes, sir. Yep.

1421
01:44:53,680 --> 01:45:01,800
If it's up for public consumption right
now, can we have copies at the library?

1422
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:06,280
Physical copies?
Um I guess I'd rather hold off on that

1423
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:11,000
until the the commissioners actually I
mean, you can print it off, obviously,

1424
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:15,960
but it's a it's still in draft form
rather than hand them to you today and I

1425
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:21,360
only have two. So, it's not like I have
a ton up here that I can hand out. Um

1426
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:24,040
Would you mind waiting until we actually
have an opportunity to adopt it as final

1427
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:28,880
final
>> If you're asking the public to that they

1428
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:31,920
can view it, I don't
I don't know what to say.

1429
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,440
Are you I mean, I
Um

1430
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:39,360
» Rachel did say that. Well, as soon as we
adopt it, there'll be more copies, won't

1431
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:42,120
there, Steve? Well, as soon as they
obviously we can't make we we don't

1432
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:45,760
intend to make hundreds and hundreds of
copies, but Kelly's only asking for a

1433
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:50,000
few. So, I I we should be able to get
>> Yeah, I mean, we could put a big

1434
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:53,240
watermark across it that says draft for
open for public comment to make

1435
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:57,320
everybody feel more comfortable, too. We
can send some hard copies that way.

1436
01:45:55,640 --> 01:46:04,120
If you go to that website, the whole
plan that we've got in book form is on

1437
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:07,600
the website. Yeah. The entire thing.
Other thoughts, Mike? You were You were

1438
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:13,360
along for most of the ride. Micah, you
were along for most of the ride. Anybody

1439
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:13,360
else thoughts on where we're at?

1440
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:21,120
Micah?
I guess I would like a little bit more

1441
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:25,600
clarification when it comes to the
comprehensive land use plan

1442
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:28,120
and this vision plan now.
I [clears throat] mean, you guys have

1443
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:34,160
discussed both
plans interchangeably here today,

1444
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:37,280
but when an item comes before planning
commission,

1445
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:41,720
which document is going to be the
foundation document for them to make a

1446
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:44,160
decision? Is that still The The Their
legal document is the comprehensive land

1447
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,480
use plan.
>> That's That's the one that they use.

1448
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:52,760
» their legal That's their legal document.
Right. And we really didn't We really

1449
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:58,120
didn't address that. Um I think the
planning commission is is trying to

1450
01:46:54,800 --> 01:47:01,080
review that comprehensive land use plan
uh

1451
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:05,360
over time, but we really didn't touch
that document with this work.

1452
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,960
I appreciate the clarification because
that was my assumption, but I I'm not

1453
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:12,240
sure that the public has ever heard it
put that way. So,

1454
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:15,400
thank you for that. And I guess I'm
encouraged to see that agriculture is a

1455
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:18,560
priority
in [clears throat] the vision plan on

1456
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:22,200
the public. That's very encouraging to
me. Okay.

1457
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:25,920
Um so, thank you guys for doing that.
Sure.

1458
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,760
You know, I think I think if I'm sitting
on the planning commission and I sat on

1459
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,920
the planning commission for years. I
don't today. Doug is our representative

1460
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:36,240
on planning commission. But if I'm
sitting in there and I have a a proposal

1461
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:41,560
that comes before me that speaks to
solar or wind or some of these other

1462
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:47,960
things that has a a potential of
disrupting that agricultural and rural

1463
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:52,640
community, I think you can go back to
this and say, I don't think that's what

1464
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:57,080
our what our residents are looking for.
Um

1465
01:47:55,000 --> 01:48:00,400
I guess one other thing that I and I saw
that the plan was posted on the website.

1466
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:05,120
I briefly
paged through it this morning.

1467
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:10,040
I'm probably a little bit disappointed
that there isn't more emphasis put on

1468
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:12,040
manufacturing jobs and industrial jobs
and industrial growth

1469
01:48:11,780 --> 01:48:13,719
» [clears throat]
>> in Adams County.

1470
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:17,675
» Sure.
We talk about housing

1471
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:20,000
shortages.
>> [clears throat]

1472
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:24,000
» But I would like those residents to work
in Adams County instead of commuting out

1473
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:28,640
of Adams County. Sure. Sure. I think
that's probably in in

1474
01:48:26,719 --> 01:48:33,040
included in that whole economic
development piece.

1475
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:36,200
Probably not maybe fleshed out as much
as you would like to have seen it, but I

1476
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:40,520
would think that's probably a part of
that economic development piece of our

1477
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:43,080
of our vision.
Thanks.

1478
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:48,160
I think it'd be great, too, along with
manufacturing if we could get more tech

1479
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,160
jobs here.

1480
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:55,600
Anybody else? We don't want to We don't
want to belabor this too much.

1481
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:59,040
Obviously, this is In In guys, we
actually have a

1482
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:02,040
a proposed um
ordinance

1483
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:04,640
that uh
uh

1484
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:09,920
Clayton has looked at or Mark has looked
at, one or the other. Um but I I'd

1485
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:14,600
prefer not to consider that today until
you all have time to look at it.

1486
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:18,000
And that was the
ordinance It it it we in relation to the

1487
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:21,440
vision
>> It it's it's related to vision. You

1488
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:26,840
haven't seen the ordinance yet. But but
ultimately ultimately

1489
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:32,440
my desire is that we as commissioners
consider adopting this as our vision

1490
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:37,080
including adopting an ordinance that
states that this is our vision plan.

1491
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:39,800
» But obviously you're not prepared to do
that today and I don't know

1492
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:43,120
» put it on a timeline. In a couple of
weeks we can be addressing it. If if

1493
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:47,560
that's okay, we'll look at that in a
couple of weeks.

1494
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:50,200
Anybody else? Rachel, parting parting
thoughts here?

1495
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:56,880
All right, getting off mute there. No, I
just want to say it's like I said, it's

1496
01:49:55,200 --> 01:50:00,640
been a great experience. You guys have a
wonderful community. We've really had a

1497
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:05,160
great time, you know, getting to know
each one of the communities and going to

1498
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:10,080
Swiss Days and Monroe and County Fair.
So it's it's been a great process and

1499
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:13,440
like I said, we're all open to comments
and tweaks and

1500
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:18,840
we understand that you know, it might
take a further reiteration and and

1501
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:24,880
certain parts. So happy to happy to hear
that and and work on it. So

1502
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:28,680
Very good.
Um if nothing else, we've got a couple

1503
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:31,760
more things on the agenda. Rachel,
you're free to to hang in there with us

1504
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:35,560
but
but I wouldn't mind you I I wouldn't I

1505
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:39,040
wouldn't wouldn't
I wouldn't uh Hold it against me or

1506
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:42,520
something. Hold it against you. Yeah,
I've got something else. Okay. All

1507
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:46,920
right, no problem. Great to meet
everybody today and everybody have a

1508
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:51,240
great Tuesday. Thank you.
Okay. The

1509
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:55,000
the ordinance 2026-6 that we signed, I
guess that was that's been had a slight

1510
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:59,040
change to it. So we need to resign this
document.

1511
01:50:55,800 --> 01:51:04,360
» sent right after you signed it.
Um okay.

1512
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:08,800
Um great discussion.
Again, this is this is something that um

1513
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:15,400
that I've been working on and we've been
working on for a couple of years. So

1514
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:19,840
um glad to see it come to some kind of a
some kind of a

1515
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:23,720
not a close but at least a a a path
forward that that we can be in the

1516
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:28,200
share. So Thank you Steve for all the
time and effort you put into that.

1517
01:51:25,480 --> 01:51:31,760
» It's been it's been really uh uh
really a great learning experience for

1518
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:36,200
me.
Um

1519
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:41,240
Okay, Justice Center update is next on
the agenda. I'm not sure we have a lot

1520
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:46,360
to share there today but um
I know we've got we continue to look at

1521
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:50,560
that option that we discussed a couple
of weeks ago. Uh

1522
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:53,480
potential of moving superior court into
the first floor of the historic

1523
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:57,080
courthouse.
Um

1524
01:51:54,400 --> 01:52:00,560
We look then at we have four or five
departments then that would be looking

1525
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:03,640
for a new home
uh including the clerk and prosecutor

1526
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:07,360
who would be displaced out of the
courthouse.

1527
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,400
Um so we're looking at
uh

1528
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:15,400
right now we're working with the
elevator to give us some numbers and

1529
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:19,600
design concepts on uh uh
an annex that would be built across

1530
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:23,040
Third Street.
I know there's maybe a little bit of

1531
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:27,120
confusion as to where we're envisioning
that. At this point probably is going to

1532
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:32,560
go in the parking lot that we have there
now. So um so we would we would need to

1533
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:34,920
to find some new parking or the city
would help us find some new parking for

1534
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:38,200
that.
That's all that's all kind of in

1535
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:42,520
discussion right now and I don't know
that we have a lot to share on that.

1536
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:46,240
Yeah, I I know you've been working real
closely with department heads to to

1537
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:49,520
refine that.
>> I have. That's been

1538
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:53,120
» that. They they have been
that's also been a great collaborative

1539
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:56,440
effort.
The judges came to the table and said,

1540
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:59,880
"Hey, we can do with maybe less than
what we were initially thinking." And so

1541
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:03,880
we're having conversations with all of
our department heads with along that

1542
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:07,680
vein of I know this is what you asked
for but what do you really need and

1543
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:11,200
we're going to have those conversations
here over the next week or so and then

1544
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:14,160
come back with a design that's that's
hopefully

1545
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:18,760
meets all of our needs but yet fits into
the budget that we that council set for

1546
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:18,760
us.

1547
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:25,080
Okay.
Um Do we have a final issue we need or

1548
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:28,800
something we should bring up in our
meeting with you? You know, we don't

1549
01:53:26,440 --> 01:53:32,320
need to. I gave them um
Yeah, we can we can talk about this. We

1550
01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:35,640
really didn't sign that because we only
gave them a go ahead on part of that.

1551
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:39,000
Okay.
Um

1552
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:43,680
County Attorney, Mark Clayton, what have
you guys got for us today?

1553
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:48,000
Um I know next week we're going to have
a discussion about um

1554
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:51,600
fringe area jurisdiction. So I think
that will

1555
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:53,440
it really goes kind of hand in hand
>> Hand in hand with what we've been

1556
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:57,000
talking about.
>> these discussions. So Yeah.

1557
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:04,200
Another reminder maybe that next week's
meeting is on Wednesday rather than

1558
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:08,880
Tuesday because of the election. Right.
Just as a reminder. Okay, thanks Tony.

1559
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:12,880
Clayton, what have you got for us?
Uh so we did just have

1560
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:17,000
we suspended earlier. We had a public
hearing on what will be ordinance number

1561
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:20,320
2026-4,
an ordinance regulating parking on

1562
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:25,240
county owned property.
So if there's no further discussion

1563
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:29,680
amongst you all as commissioners um
it would be available for you to move to

1564
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:32,960
adopt the same. [clears throat]
Motion to approve. Second.

1565
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:37,840
Motion passes.
And I will given that it has enforcement

1566
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:43,160
until make sure that our office gets
published meant to the auditor because

1567
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:46,280
it will need published specifically the
enforcement provisions will need

1568
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:49,840
published and then it'll be effective 10
days thereafter.

1569
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:53,560
Um and then
to shorten the meeting today, it's

1570
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:59,240
already gone pretty long.
I would just ask that it be put on the

1571
01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:04,600
agenda for next week for me to present
the the petition for vacation of a

1572
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:10,960
public way in relation to the portion of
West 1100 South uh the roadway of Bridge

1573
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:16,520
near Red Gold. I have that petition
prepared. So I would just request Can

1574
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:19,560
you send Angie and myself an email
stating how you want that listed on the

1575
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:23,680
agenda and we'll make sure to get that
on. Yep, I'll do that right now.

1576
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:26,720
Anything else from you guys? Nope, thank
you. Okay. Hey, can I ask you a quick

1577
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:30,920
question?
And I know I could look it up but on the

1578
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:33,320
abatement agreements that you've done
out at

1579
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,880
West Union Town what's the final date on
that?

1580
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,840
» [clears throat]
>> The final date as in when they have

1581
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:45,920
cleaned up. Um all of them except one
individual that came to the table a

1582
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:51,200
little bit later. I believe that
individual has until October 15th. The

1583
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:54,320
remainder of them is July 15th. Okay.
But I know multiple of them as the

1584
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:58,000
abatement agreement reads, they need to
actually

1585
01:55:55,480 --> 01:56:02,640
sign like a satisfaction
notice that they've satisfied or believe

1586
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:05,880
that they're in compliance. Both my
office and the sheriff's department is

1587
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:09,360
in possession of that form that becomes
signed. That will then trigger the

1588
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:12,600
sheriff's deputy in charge of that
enforcement to go out and double check

1589
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:17,000
and we'll start kind of dealing with
that if there's issues with whether or

1590
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:19,040
not they're compliant. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.

1591
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:23,000
Shannon, what have you got for us this
morning?

1592
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:26,520
Nothing today but thank you. Okay.
Um

1593
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,560
Doug, Stan, what else have you got for
the good of the cause this morning?

1594
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:33,800
» I'm good.
Um we

1595
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:36,800
really just a couple minor things. Um
the

1596
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:40,280
Community Mental Health Centers has
appointed a new

1597
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:44,880
additional Adams County rep and that's
Ian Gilbert. So he'll be sitting on that

1598
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:50,320
board along with myself from Adams
County. It's great.

1599
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:50,320
Um you know, the other thing which is

1600
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:56,680
a wish in one hand and whatever in the
other but I've still got some interest

1601
01:56:55,360 --> 01:57:00,400
in uh
looking at the

1602
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:02,280
old meadows. So
Good.

1603
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:07,080
So
if if that's all right, I'll continue to

1604
01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:11,640
keep the keys and pursue that as the
interest is there. Obviously we don't

1605
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:14,680
have a plan for that facility yet. So if
you can come up with somebody who can

1606
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:18,200
put it together you send it as priority.
I had a meeting last week with Rob

1607
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:22,400
Purdy.
Good. Good deal.

1608
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:26,120
Good deal.
Um anything from the public?

1609
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:33,080
Move we adjourn.
Okay.

1610
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:38,120
We're adjourned.
Thanks everybody. Appreciate you coming.

1611
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:38,120
Appreciate your interest.

1612
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,000
» Mhm.