[0:00] Correct. Dear Lord, we thank you for the
opportunity to serve. We thank you
[0:05] for the opportunity to uh
uh
[0:09] have the resources that we have to serve
the residents of Adams County and to
[0:14] serve all those that uh
we are responsible for. We thank you for
[0:20] the the blessing of of safety,
cooperation, and and uh uh abundance in
[0:27] in our abilities. Please bless us and
guide us in this county. Please continue
[0:32] to bless and guide the the leaders not
only in this county but through the
[0:36] state and and through
the United States and and uh continue to
[0:41] grant us
uh safety, cooperation, and and uh
[0:46] continued uh service to you. In Jesus'
name, amen. Amen.
[0:56] » [clears throat]
[0:59] » We're going to start by looking at the
minutes from the April 21st meeting.
[1:03] Anybody have any
uh comments or thoughts on those?
[1:07] » I reviewed nice little new additions or
corrections as appropriate.
[1:11] Stan, you okay with minutes? So moved.
Second. Okay. Motion made and seconded
[1:16] to approve the minutes. That motion
passes.
[1:20] Stan, you got them?
I'll get the waste and paper here. All
[1:24] right.
[1:29] Okay. Our counsel tells me we need to
suspend this meeting and move into a uh
[1:34] public hearing on the
uh
[1:37] proposed parking lot ordinance. Motion
on that. We would need a motion on that.
[1:42] » So moved. Second. Okay. We are suspended
and moving into a public hearing on
[1:47] ordinance number 2026-4 2026-4
[1:54] » [clears throat]
>> Right. So, generally um
[1:56] as it was previously described, this
would be ordinance 2026-4.
[2:00] It's previously introduced uh two
meetings ago. Um short titled an
[2:04] ordinance regulating parking on county
owned property. Um
[2:09] for instance,
the
[2:13] permitted types of parking or is
obviously parking on county owned lots
[2:17] uh
by members of the public while actively
[2:19] engaged in in conducting county business
within an adjacent county building,
[2:23] county employees, elected officials, and
appointed officials during their hours
[2:26] of work for the county.
Uh jurors who've been summoned in jury
[2:30] duty um or operators of authorized
vehicle in the performance of official
[2:34] duties.
Um
[2:37] Prohibited conduct under this would be
um
[2:41] to park a vehicle on a county owned lot
for the purpose of storage or long-term
[2:44] parking. Um
Park a vehicle that is not an authorized
[2:50] vehicle um for an extended period of
time.
[2:53] Uh
Park an inoperable vehicle. An
[2:56] inoperable vehicle would be defined
under Indiana code for a period longer
[2:59] than 24 hours unless actively engaged in
arranging for immediate removal.
[3:04] Uh per- performing non-emergency
maintenance. Um
[3:09] etc.
And then enforcement provisions.
[3:18] Generally just it's a the citation
format um that they could be any person
[3:25] in violation of the ordinance could be
liable for civil citations and
[3:29] penalties, which Is there anything about
removing the vehicle? Public charge?
[3:32] » Yes. Sorry. That would be um
[3:50] » [clears throat]
[3:53] » So, that is actually its own section.
Sorry, Sheriff. It would be uh towing
[3:57] and impoundment and release procedures.
Um
[4:00] Section A of that would be authorization
to tow. An enforcement official is
[4:04] hereby authorized to cause any vehicle
found in violation of this ordinance to
[4:06] be removed and towed from the county
lot. Um that that decision rests with
[4:11] the discretion of the enforcement
officer based on the nature of the
[4:15] violation, the operational needs of the
county.
[4:17] Um and then it goes through, you know,
obviously grounds for immediate towing.
[4:22] Um the authorization for an immediate
towing of the vehicle is that it's
[4:25] parked in an in a manner that obstructs
a fire fire lane, building entrance or
[4:29] exit, or driving lane. Vehicles parked
in an accessible space, which would be a
[4:33] handicap accessible space without
displaying the relevant placard. Um the
[4:37] vehicle presents an immediate hazard to
public safety or property. The vehicle
[4:41] is reasonably believed to be stolen or
evidence of a crime. And the vehicle is
[4:45] parked in an area designated as
temporary no park temporary or permanent
[4:48] no parking zone. Um Selection of towing
provider. Um
[4:54] It can be any licensed and insured
towing provider. Um
[4:58] Impoundment and owner notification. Any
vehicle towed pursuant to this ordinance
[5:01] shall be impounded at a secured facility
operated by said tow provider. Um and
[5:06] that the enforcement official
authorizing the tow shall notify the
[5:10] Adam County Sheriff's Department, which
is itself um and and then provide um
[5:16] attempt to provide notice to the owner
um based on license plate information if
[5:21] if applicable. So, if
[5:25] If it doesn't meet those criteria, then
we don't tow. We just make arrangements.
[5:30] But say we contact the owner and we give
them 24-hour notice and if it's not
[5:34] corrected, then then are we allowed to
tow? So, the enumerated sections based
[5:37] on the ordinance were just simply
grounds for immediate towing. Um section
[5:41] A, the authorization to tow again goes
that the decision to tow the vehicle
[5:45] rests within the discretion of the
enforcement official. So,
[5:49] um So, after 24 hours they have
rectified it after we make contact, then
[5:53] we still could Sure. For perhaps in a
situation you've given them a citation
[5:57] and said, "Hey, this needs to be moved
within 48 hours." And they don't and I
[6:00] mean again,
>> So, do So, do we give them 24 hours cuz
[6:04] otherwise they could park there every
day and then just move it at the end of
[6:07] the day.
Well, again, I think that's a
[6:09] discretionary. I would say probably not
24 hours given that. Got you. That's
[6:13] That's after the citation. Yep. So, it'd
be a citation first.
[6:17] Um
Right.
[6:20] So, there's a a financial penalty for
the citation. Correct.
[6:26] How much is that financial penalty?
[6:30] 100 dollar.
[6:39] And is it just our our county deputies
that issue citations on county property
[6:44] or could that be city?
County only.
[6:49] The city can't city officers can't
enforce county ordinances.
[6:52] They can't. And I can't enforce city
ordinances. Oh.
[6:56] So, actually I left the I left the
actual fee schedule. So, civil penalties
[6:59] is under um penalties, fees, and civil
revenues is under section A. And so, any
[7:04] violation of this provision of this
ordinance shall constitute a civil
[7:06] infraction subjecting the owner to a
vehicle to a fine. The amount of fine
[7:09] shall be set, which is what we would set
um
[7:13] during regular meeting here in adoption
um to to create a fee schedule, which
[7:18] would be then adopted officially by the
Board of Commissioners. So, really it's
[7:23] it's up to you all as to if you do um I
know from a citation standpoint and
[7:27] other enforcement ordinances, you know,
it's maybe certain amount certain amount
[7:31] first violation, second violation,
third, depending on how many citation
[7:37] you want to go cuz obviously the more of
those you want to go, it's probably more
[7:40] of an exhaustive remedy where you need
to go through every step of the
[7:43] citations before towing, etc.
Um
[7:47] What would be a typical citation for
parking?
[7:51] I'd say 50 bucks first offense and then
escalate. Usually it doubles for second,
[7:56] third violations.
Normally.
[8:01] » [clears throat]
>> Okay. So, this is the public hearing
[8:03] part. So, anybody interested to speak to
this um
[8:08] uh proposed ordinance, please come to
the mic, state your name, and uh tell us
[8:12] what you're thinking.
[8:17] Going once. Going twice.
Okay.
[8:22] Um I'll entertain a motion to close the
public hearing portion of this. Do we
[8:26] need to adopt the ordinance? Not before
we close the hearing. It'll be in during
[8:31] my time in the regular
>> close.
[8:33] Second.
Public hearing is closed. Ready to move
[8:37] on to our regular business. I'll bring
it back up in the play. Yeah. So,
[8:41] that'll come back then during the
attorney's presentation. So, we can move
[8:44] on to our normal regular business.
Uh Tony, what have you got for us this
[8:49] morning?
We have Allied weekly health insurance
[8:51] claims for medical.
Those are in the amount of $36,246.97.
[8:59] 36 246 97.
[9:05] Any problem, Stan? Motion to approve.
Second. Motion by Stan, seconded by
[9:09] Doug. The Allied weekly claims are
approved.
[9:14] And then we have Northwind prescription
insurance claims
[9:19] for the week and those are in the amount
of $2,457.86.
[9:24] 24 57 86. I did uh
verify the claimants as well.
[9:30] I move we accept the prescription claims
from Northwind for the week of $2,457
[9:37] and
56 [clears throat] cents, Tony.
[9:41] Second.
Motion by Doug, seconded by Stan. That
[9:44] motion passes.
Then we have the Allied monthly health
[9:49] insurance
claim.
[9:52] It's more of the administrative type
side. And that is in the amount of
[9:56] 67,585.06.
[9:59] 67,585.06.
>> [clears throat]
[10:04] » Motion to approve. Second.
Motion by Stan, second by Doug. Okay.
[10:10] Motion is approved. We'll pay that
claim.
[10:13] Then we have the payroll AP claims.
Which are all of the benefits attached
[10:18] to
payroll.
[10:21] And that is in the amount of 358,
326.91.
[10:27] 358,326.91.
[10:31] Move we approve. Second.
Motion by Doug, second by Stan. Payroll
[10:36] AP claims are approved.
And then finally, you should have
[10:41] received via email the accounts payable
claims.
[10:45] And those accounts payable claims are in
the amount of 370,406.58.
[10:50] 370,406.58.
And I believe that highway had a couple
[10:56] of big ones in there with equipment,
truck, something.
[10:59] And stone. Right. So it's that time of
year when And that's stone. Yeah.
[11:04] Those are bigger ones.
>> [clears throat]
[11:06] » There's one for a truck, 64,892.
>> Yeah, that's probably the biggest.
[11:10] Probably. I think it was W.H. Jones,
maybe. I I didn't see anything I had
[11:14] questions on in there, so I didn't
either. I I move we [clears throat]
[11:17] we pay the accounts payable claims
as presented.
[11:23] Second. Motion by Doug, second by Stan.
AP claims are approved.
[11:27] » [clears throat]
[11:30] » Or account payable, I think, maybe,
Ardy.
[11:33] Yeah. Accounts payable claims.
>> [snorts]
[11:37] » That is technically all I have depending
Steve. Uh
[11:41] When the chairman would like the
the two Council on Aging
[11:47] drafts that you tabled. Clayton has
looked at those.
[11:52] Uh
you want to do that later? Do you want
[11:54] to do it under his time? You When you
want to do that?
[11:56] » Unless you Are you okay with doing that
in your time?
[11:59] That's fine. I mean I'm just
>> But but you've reviewed them and and and
[12:02] you're comfortable with them. Yeah, I'm
going to recommend it.
[12:05] Okay.
Okay. Let's go ahead and get knock them
[12:08] out.
>> Okay.
[12:09] Okay, and there were Steve, there's one
form that you and I signed and the other
[12:13] one only I signed.
>> Okay.
[12:15] Uh
the first one was the pass-through
[12:19] agreement
with INDOT.
[12:24] Adams had County asked the pass-through
agent for their grant.
[12:27] » Their grant. So this is the agreement
that That's the agreement
[12:30] » operate under. Yes, and that's the
agreement that Clayton reviewed.
[12:34] Clayton's reviewed that and you're
recommending approval?
[12:37] Clayton? Correct. Okay.
You guys We do need a motion.
[12:41] Okay. Uh I'm not sure how we should word
this motion.
[12:46] Pass-through agreement for rural public
transportation.
[12:48] » I move that Stan, unless you have a
comment to make on that.
[12:52] » I'm good, for sure.
>> that we pass approve the pass-through
[12:55] agreement for
rural public transportation.
[12:59] Second. Okay.
The motion passes. I'll sign.
[13:02] » That's just your signature on that. It's
just mine and Steve's. You both sign
[13:06] them.
And then the other one that Clayton
[13:09] reviewed has to do with special labor
warranty.
[13:12] That's a special warranty arrangement.
Uh
[13:16] And if you remember, Michelle is doing
all of this to satisfy
[13:21] When was that audit? Last year. Yeah, I
think it was It was last year. I think
[13:25] it was last year regarding being a
pass-through. We need to
[13:28] » Yeah.
So this would be for the special labor
[13:31] warranty and only I
have a spot for signing it.
[13:34] » [clears throat]
>> Need a motion to uh accept, right? We
[13:37] do. Yeah.
Stan, you want to make that? Yeah,
[13:40] that's fine. I second. INDOT, right,
Tony? Involving INDOT's grant that
[13:44] Council on Aging has. Okay. For the
vehicles and so forth. So that special
[13:49] warranty agreement passes as well. Okay,
very good.
[13:53] That's out of the way.
Okay, thanks, bud. Yeah.
[13:59] Anything else for us, Tony?
That's it. Okay.
[14:03] Moving on. Nate, come on up.
[14:09] Good morning. Good morning, Nate.
Couple of different items here for you.
[14:14] I'm going to save small structures for
today, so we're going to talk about
[14:17] those quite a bit here.
The first thing I want to talk about is
[14:21] really the map that you have attached.
That is the proposed schedule as far as
[14:27] the areas that the our agreement with
Janssen and Spaans have done and what
[14:32] we're proposing to do under what is
going to be phase two. Mhm. Uh phase two
[14:37] covers six of the six of the 12
townships in the county.
[14:41] Preble and Root, French and Hartford,
and then Wabash and Jefferson townships.
[14:45] The different years from '27, '28, '29
would be included in that. Uh one of the
[14:50] additions that we have from phase one to
I'll move away from there. Good deal.
[14:55] I'll move the microphone here a little
like that. Uh one of the additions that
[14:59] we're going to have from our small
structures from previous year uh or
[15:04] years is the addition of five pedestrian
bridges. We have five pedestrian bridges
[15:08] that to my knowledge have not been
inspected since they were constructed or
[15:12] reconstructed.
That includes the South Adams Trail
[15:15] Bridge,
the covered bridge, a pedestrian bridge
[15:20] near Hanna and Nollman
uh over the the name
[15:24] Oh, I know. It just just west or south
of Washington Street connects the
[15:29] uh Woodring subdivision to Hanna and
Nollman Park on the west side of
[15:33] Decatur. Uh there's also the large
Greenway Trail Bridge that sits over the
[15:37] St. Mary's River in Decatur. And then
there is a pedestrian bridge behind
[15:42] Adams Memorial Hospital.
All five of those are pedestrian
[15:46] bridges. They're subject to uh regular
inspections, but they're not part of the
[15:51] federal program. And they're not being
inspected by anybody.
[15:55] Out of
an abundant I'll say an abundance of
[15:57] caution, but under your purview of
health, welfare, and safety of the
[16:01] public, since we do bridge inspections,
I felt that it was necessary to at least
[16:06] offer to do the inspections under the IQ
Bridge Bond. If you're able to do that,
[16:12] I think that it makes good sense to do
that. It is not an admission of
[16:16] ownership of all these bridges because
different entities have different
[16:19] involvements with each of these or their
uses. This is for an inspection and
[16:24] reporting to parks departments, both
city, county, South Adams Trail
[16:29] organization, and then again to you as a
commissioners cuz some of these do have
[16:34] parcels that are under the county
control. So I I feel that it's in our
[16:38] best interest to add that to this
inspection since there's no grant money
[16:42] that's eligible. For both small
structures, this is a good opportunity
[16:46] to do that. And it is not a full
hands-on federal bridge inspection um
[16:53] that would involve lift trucks and tens
of thousands of dollars versus what's
[16:57] being proposed currently.
Uh if you're in agreement with this
[17:02] scope and system and method,
um the proposal that I have from Janssen
[17:07] and Spaans, their total is a not to
exceed fee of 105,283.51
[17:14] over that three-year period
from '27 through '29.
[17:19] » Did you mention the one on the River
Greenway Trail? Yes. Okay. Yep. So
[17:22] there's the two of these are one's an
original uh railway
[17:27] uh railroad bridge and the other one's a
reconstructed railroad bridge.
[17:31] Certainly they were originally designed
for significant loads. I don't
[17:34] anticipate finding any issues, but I'd
rather find the issue before I get a
[17:39] call from EMA or dispatch or something
about the an issue coming up. Um this is
[17:46] just a way of making sure that if there
is a problem, these sort of inspections
[17:51] find those and then we can work with the
other agencies that are involved in
[17:55] using those structures to find out how
they want to resolve that.
[17:59] As far as
uh inspecting them, are we then
[18:03] responsible for the cost of inspecting
them? This would be This is the cost of
[18:07] inspecting them. So Even if we don't
have ownership of the bridge. Correct.
[18:13] So I felt that that was really the best
interest in it. If we want to So as part
[18:19] of this agreement, I'm not asking you to
sign the proposal from Janssen and
[18:23] Spaans cuz it's not in our standard
format yet. I wanted to talk about the
[18:27] the the philosophy, the approach, why
we're proposing to do it this way versus
[18:32] others.
The actual cost of the pedestrian bridge
[18:36] inspections with travel is 11,324.30
[18:42] out of this Yeah. So it's a little over
10% of the project overall inspections
[18:49] is just the pedestrian bridge. And part
of the reason it's that low is because
[18:53] it's being added onto another contract.
If this was stand-alone and each one of
[18:57] them was an individual inspection, it
would be quite a bit more.
[19:01] Well, [clears throat] and I think all
all the pedestrian bridges are
[19:04] are are probably owned by the parks
department and that. Uh they're either
[19:08] city city parks, county parks, and
another one is
[19:13] actually one of the two of these are
kind of like combinations because of how
[19:16] the parcels are listed.
>> I wonder if it'd be good once those
[19:20] pedestrian bridges are inspected to to
get a report to the parks department.
[19:24] Just so they know they're being
inspected and Absolutely. And if there's
[19:28] any issues, they would In fact, it's my
intent to take the individual inspection
[19:35] reports and then present those at city
parks board meetings and then at county
[19:39] parks board meetings and say, "Here's
what we found." And and do that really
[19:44] as a service rather than as a "Oh, by
the way, you have to deal with this." I
[19:47] didn't want to come to them with a That
way they got the reports good, bad, or
[19:51] otherwise.
>> Yeah. And that And that's that is my
[19:53] intent is that here's the information,
here's here's the recommendation from
[19:57] myself and and our consulting engineer
because they're not working with these
[20:01] consultants. They don't have the
relationships, they're not going to be
[20:04] able to negotiate those prices and the
risk. It really kind of keeps the
[20:07] control in in where I think the service
that the county has the best opportunity
[20:11] to do that. Very good. So, it's it'll
save them money obviously because we're
[20:16] we're covering that cost, but it is not
an admission of ownership of any of
[20:20] these. There's going to have to be
discussion of that. If a major issue is
[20:24] found, it's going to be very expensive
and I think there's going to be some
[20:27] serious discussions between you as the
commissioners and the parks boards at
[20:31] different levels in the city as well.
So, I don't want to find anything. I'm
[20:35] actually hoping that we don't, but I
wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't
[20:39] look into it. Nate, will will this ins-
inspection
[20:44] » [clears throat]
>> be primarily structural so we know if
[20:46] the bridge is going to fall down or can
bear the bear the weight or the load or
[20:50] whatever, or will it be from a
perspective of this is a pedestrian
[20:54] bridge and we need to make it safe for
pedestrians to walk across this thing,
[20:57] whether that be
railing and stuff like that, or is it
[21:01] just structural? It it's going to look
at a little bit of the of both. Um
[21:05] because the structures, for the most
part, they're so overbuilt for the loads
[21:09] that they have, a structural analysis
isn't necessarily going to work the
[21:13] [clears throat] same way as what I'm
going to talk about for my next part of
[21:15] this is we've got a a small structure
with emergency vehicles. You're not
[21:21] taking a fire truck across any one of
these bridges and you're not even taking
[21:25] a loaded pickup truck across these.
These aren't subject to maybe a Gator
[21:29] for an emergency access might use those.
That might be the heaviest loads you've
[21:33] got. Um really we're going to be looking
at minimal pedestrian. We're going to
[21:37] look at wear and weathering of certain
areas, prevent the maintenance that can
[21:40] be done, and looking at pedestrian
safety to make sure that if there if
[21:44] there's missing planks in a in a timber
deck on this that you've got the fall
[21:48] risks or guardrail that's damaged. So,
it it's to try to cover the purpose and
[21:53] needs specifically those types of
structures. If there's a structural
[21:56] issue, it's going to jump off the page
at all of us. Good. So, that's what we
[22:00] want to make sure we do and I want to
have a third-party document it so that
[22:03] all of us have record that this was
being done besides finding out about an
[22:08] accident and saying, "Well, who looked
at it? Nobody." Um we can we can
[22:12] actually point to specifically the
powers that be having that sort of
[22:16] response and report. So, if that if that
makes good sense, then what I'm I plan
[22:21] on doing, I don't necessarily need a
vote, but if you're good with it, then
[22:24] I'm going to take this back to them and
work with Clayton to write up an actual
[22:28] formal agreement, and then I can present
that agreement. We'll just reference
[22:31] back to today's meeting. Good. This was
sounds good.
[22:35] So, okay. Well, good.
No, didn't want to surprise anybody with
[22:38] a extra inspections, so that's that's
the intent there. So, thank you.
[22:43] Um second part is these load ratings
obviously come up now and then. During
[22:48] the inspection, um what I mostly see is
a small structure, C258
[22:54] that carries 550 north between 400 east
and State Road 101. It's just on the
[22:59] east side east of Decatur. It's been one
that I've been watching for a while to
[23:03] address. Um I don't have the
right-of-way, which is probably the
[23:07] biggest kind of sticking point for me,
but during the inspection that was done
[23:11] in 2025 comparing it to to the 2017
photos, you can see in the picture
[23:17] below, there is a facial wall supporting
against the original field rock
[23:22] foundation. That should have been in
contact. That whole area that's got the
[23:26] little red areas, those were poured
against each other and it has walked its
[23:29] way off and is now blocking access to
the to the field rock for any repairs.
[23:35] It should have been dowel or pinned into
it so it wouldn't move away, but it is
[23:40] it's really not serving its purpose at
this point, so I've asked
[23:44] uh JSE to do a load rating and inventory
this. Look at the structure, look at the
[23:50] condition, and give me a load rating and
how bad is this as a as a structure for
[23:54] condition.
Based on their draft report, they're
[23:57] recommending a weight restriction be
posted for conventional vehicle weights
[24:02] of 32 tons for gross vehicle weight.
There is also a separate emergency
[24:07] vehicle category that's established and
that's set on the weak axle
[24:11] configurations of emergency vehicles.
So, I've sent this actually over to Jeff
[24:16] Sheets at the Decatur Fire Department
already, so he's aware of it. He's the
[24:19] only one with the vehicles and maybe the
other volunteer fire departments would
[24:23] as well, but he is going to be the one
that needs to contact and coordinate
[24:26] with them. And that covers everything
from 16 tons on a single axle, 28 tons
[24:32] for a tandem axle,
and then 38 tons for their gross vehicle
[24:36] weight. So, it just changes the config-
configurations. How much does a school
[24:40] bus weigh? They are 15 tons. So, if once
we get under 15 tons, so this thankfully
[24:46] this does not affect school buses. And
the school buses would fall under that
[24:50] 32-ton limit. Um it doesn't affect
the vast majority of the travelers, it's
[24:56] not going to affect public, but you're
going to see new signs show up out there
[24:59] and I'm going to get questions as to
why. Or a big farm tractor? Farm
[25:03] equipments, uh the farm tractors
themselves, there's really nothing in
[25:07] the load rating that sits up depending
on those. The tractors themselves aren't
[25:11] necessarily the problem, it's the grain
wagons and the semis full of grain.
[25:16] So, if you're harvesting out there and
you've got you're over 40 tons and you
[25:21] know it, you need to go around it. Um
the notice itself is
[25:26] for informational purposes.
Uh it's so that the public knows the
[25:30] conditions these bridges are able to
sustain regular traffic.
[25:34] If something happens and you're the one
taking an oversized load compared to
[25:39] what this is rated for, you could be
held liable and you as commissioners
[25:43] could take legal action against those
taking those loads over it.
[25:47] Don't want that situation. It's
certainly my intent as I noted, the
[25:52] earliest replacement that I can do for
this is right now 2028.
[25:56] I'm going to I'm working with Clayton to
try to get the necessary necessary
[26:00] right-of-way so that we can replace the
structure with a four-sided box and
[26:06] eliminate the guardrail and that would
make everybody happier when that's
[26:09] finally put in place. Good. Uh
unfortunately, the time frame and
[26:12] » [laughter]
>> my money for '27 is already committed to
[26:14] two other currently load rated
structures like this. [clears throat]
[26:18] Um this one is one that I want to try to
get addressed as soon as I can. So, it
[26:22] is certainly my my next highest priority
for 2028. So. How many how many
[26:28] structures I If we add this one to the
list, how many structures in Adams
[26:33] County do we have with a uh
a a weight posting like this? There This
[26:39] will make three.
And two of them two of those three, I
[26:43] already have the right-of-way and the
sizing established, so they are proposed
[26:47] to be replaced in next year. Okay. So,
this will be the only one hopefully in
[26:52] 2028. Um unfortunately, I need to get I
need to work with the property owners to
[26:57] try to get this replaced and for
everybody else that's adjacent or uses
[27:00] this roadway, I need to make sure that
they're aware of it. So. So, would you
[27:05] have no
if in fact this fall harvest, if a semi
[27:09] goes across it, you're you're not
you're you're you're not
[27:13] overly concerned it's going to break
down if 80 with with an 80,000 No, I I
[27:18] this isn't When it comes to these load
ratings, I think a lot of people get
[27:22] concerned. It's like you've got this
limit and then immediately everything
[27:25] breaks. No, you've got this certain
limit that is estimated ba- based on
[27:29] certain factors of safety for repeated
regular use.
[27:32] And so, this structure is going to be
fine with that 32 tons, 38 tons
[27:37] depending on on the axle configuration,
repeated regular use. That's what that's
[27:42] estimated at. Um it would certainly take
more than that, but that there is no
[27:47] guarantee that when you start to exceed
that weight limit that you're not doing
[27:51] incremental damage to the structure,
which will then shorten its life.
[27:55] Um so, if someone were running concrete
trucks beyond that weight, hundreds of
[28:00] them for a turkey barn or something
beyond that route and using that
[28:04] roadway, that certain that repeated
regular use in excess of that, that
[28:08] could exacerbate the issue that we don't
necessarily see and could cause a
[28:13] problem.
I don't want that. I don't think anybody
[28:16] does, but
part of my role in this is to make sure
[28:20] that we provide the information that we
have. So, and if anybody's curious about
[28:24] more information about this, other
photos we have, or some historic photos,
[28:29] certainly call my office, let me know,
and I'd be happy to sit down with
[28:32] anybody
that's curious about it, but
[28:36] again, there you That's what I have.
>> need anything from us on that, or is
[28:39] that just really an update?
I uh based on my statutory authority, I
[28:43] can establish those. So, this is just an
informational report. I don't have to
[28:48] have your permission, but I don't
necessarily want to load post things
[28:51] without you being informed. Appreciate
that.
[28:54] » Cuz you're going to get the phone calls
when I just start going rogue like that.
[28:57] So, again, thank you.
All right, thanks. Thanks, Nate.
[29:02] Brad, one up.
[29:08] Morning, Brad.
Good morning, gentlemen. Um I have one
[29:11] permit today and honestly, that's about
it.
[29:14] It is for Jay County RMC, North Salem
Road between 250 north and 350 north.
[29:22] And all they want to do there is change
where the electric location
[29:27] goes into the house. And that's it.
So, basically going to be out in the
[29:30] right-of-way and
[29:33] Move we approve.
Okay.
[29:37] Approved.
And other than that, um
[29:40] 700 South 000 are done. Has been paint
striped.
[29:44] That is taken care of.
We are out still patching potholes.
[29:49] Imagine that.
But
[29:52] kind of business as usual. We're getting
equipment ready to mow. That time is
[29:56] coming.
Getting the equipment ready for
[30:00] chip seal, you know, normal
preparations. Getting road closures
[30:04] today for flood? No, not yet. No. How
many miles of chip and seal do you
[30:10] intend to do this summer? We're going to
try and do 110.
[30:12] Is that above normal? That's above
normal. Yeah, last year we were about
[30:15] 106, which is up from normal.
But we're
[30:21] trying to get ahead on some issues. Are
you using lessons on those? Yes,
[30:25] correct.
Yep.
[30:28] Other than that, that's about all I got
to report. Very good. Thank you.
[30:30] Appreciate it. Thanks, Fred. Thanks.
Thanks, Fred.
[30:34] Rick.
[30:37] » [clears throat]
[30:44] » Going to reinforce it, so.
>> [laughter]
[30:51] » Thank you.
This is so much.
[31:16] I want to give you some updates and then
I have a uh
[31:19] » [clears throat]
>> a new uh
[31:22] preventative maintenance agreement that
I would like to present to you. And that
[31:27] will be from the Dilling Group.
Um
[31:31] it's for our chillers.
So
[31:35] I'll just start with that.
[31:45] Maybe there's some of that.
[31:49] So this is for our chillers that we have
here at the complex.
[31:55] Uh
the old one expires here, I believe, May
[31:58] 31st.
[32:02] I have budgeted for this in case you
wanted to go forward and do it again
[32:06] this year.
That dollar amount is the same as last
[32:10] year.
[32:12] What is that amount?
>> gets paid in three installments.
[32:21] And this is the company that installed
those chillers, is that correct?
[32:25] » Yeah.
Did you feel like we got our money's
[32:28] worth out of the maintenance agreement
last year?
[32:30] » I do. Um
[32:33] I I do. They found a bearing in in one
that they did and
[32:37] Where are they located?
Here in the complex.
[32:40] » but
In the basement.
[32:42] » In the basement. And then the condensers
are up on the Okay. [clears throat]
[32:46] Roof. I'm the roof. I was going to say
60 60-ton on the roof, I think.
[32:50] Scares me. Two Yeah, we have two 60-ton
in the basement.
[32:53] » All right.
[33:00] Each.
I should like to remove those things.
[33:03] Where's Dilling from?
Springfield. Uh
[33:06] Logan's four four So okay. So you're
asking us to approve the
[33:12] maintenance agreement
>> for the Dilling Group on the chillers.
[33:15] That's correct. I see no reason we
should not proceed.
[33:22] Needs done.
[33:25] I I move that we approve these 6557.
[33:32] Yeah, I'll second that. Motion by Doug,
seconded by Stan, that Dilling Group
[33:36] maintenance agreement's approved.
Just need signature on that.
[33:41] Yes.
Need more than one?
[33:47] Rick, is is any of this
uh
[33:51] maintenance
and I know we want to do it anyway, uh
[33:55] necessary to comply with warranty
issues?
[33:59] Uh
I mean, I would think certainly that it
[34:02] would help if we did have any warranty
issues. Yeah. Then we could show where I
[34:06] put the maintenance. Right. It It does.
Rick, once you get the invoice for this,
[34:12] you know where to put it in your claims
and send it to Glenda, right? Uh yeah.
[34:15] Okay.
I'll give her a heads-up that it'll be
[34:19] coming.
Uh the next thing
[34:23] um
[34:28] there's an air handler up in the sewer
district office.
[34:32] Uh that's where it's located.
And it operates Mark Wynn's office, too.
[34:38] Um
there's a bearing going out of it.
[34:43] I really didn't realize this, but we do
have a couple different type of air
[34:47] handlers in here. This one's a Magic
Chef.
[34:50] Um
I can't just buy the bearing.
[34:54] So I got to buy the whole shaft,
squirrel cage, fan,
[35:00] which is probably going to be easier to
install. But it's about It's It's a
[35:04] little over $1,500.
So I wanted you aware of that. I thought
[35:08] it was going to be 15,000 when you
started talking there. 1,500's not so
[35:12] not so shocking.
Anyway. Are you guys able to do it or
[35:16] you got to have somebody come in? Um
Don Myers is going to come do it. We're
[35:21] going to assist him. So
as soon as that comes in, we'll we'll
[35:25] get that taken care of. Good.
And over at the courthouse, one of our
[35:29] heat pumps
um
[35:31] has a leak in it and we're going to try
to fix that tomorrow.
[35:42] We still getting pretty good response
from Don Myers
[35:45] since it's under new management?
Uh maybe not as good as it was, but I I
[35:50] I would say not as
That's a good way to put it. We were We
[35:54] were spoiled.
Um
[35:57] because Judd, which was one of the
owners, I mean, he could just climb out
[36:01] from underneath the desk and
from under the desk and come over. Um
[36:05] we don't have that exact response like
we did, but they've been good.
[36:11] You know, one thing I can mention,
I found out Jeff Sprunger used to
[36:17] have his own plumbing business at the
[36:22] Burn area. Yeah. I guess he's back in
business to do do work if
[36:28] I mean, I don't think it's big jobs. I
think it's But if you run into something
[36:32] that
that is a smaller plumbing job and and
[36:35] you need need emergency or quick
service, you might might keep him on
[36:39] your list to call. I just found out
about that last night.
[36:43] I think there are two Jeff Sprungers.
That is Jeff Sprunger married to Willa.
[36:48] Is that Jay's boy or is or Jay's brother
or is this uh Toby's brother?
[36:52] » Toby's.
Okay.
[36:54] So Jeff Sprunger. Okay.
I wanted to
[36:59] » [clears throat]
[37:02] » I believe there is someone
They've hired someone new at the parks
[37:06] now. I don't know the lady's name.
>> Yes. Oh, yeah. Caregiver.
[37:10] [clears throat]
Yeah, caregiver. She came in as
[37:12] caregiver.
I've gotten a call from the parks, but
[37:16] not from her. It was from Chris Kroll.
I just want to know where you guys want
[37:19] me to go with this.
It's It's It's probably been over a
[37:23] year. It's when Jeremy Gilbert was here.
There's a water fountain in the
[37:28] gymnasium. There's two.
There's one in the weight room and
[37:32] there's one in the lobby.
And it's a water fountain that you the
[37:37] drain is plugged on it. We tried jetting
it.
[37:41] We could not get through it.
Um
[37:44] I asked Jeremy at the time, "What do you
want to do?"
[37:48] Uh he said,
"The only other thing I know to do is
[37:51] put a lift station in it and pump it
somewhere else." And at that time, he
[37:55] didn't want to spend the money.
The water works.
[37:59] Just that they overflow. If they fill up
a water jug and the water overflows,
[38:04] it's obviously going to run over because
it doesn't drain.
[38:08] Um I'm thinking because now that maybe
there may nothing be going on in the
[38:12] gymnasium, they would like to have that
fixed.
[38:17] To what extent do you want me to go with
that?
[38:22] You want me to
help try to
[38:26] Maybe Maybe though pay for it.
>> seems like what
[38:30] you know, now any repairs that we make
to this building, we would almost have
[38:36] to look at long-term
repairs. So I I guess that's the way I
[38:40] would look at it is what's going to be
the best
[38:44] uh long-term
for this situation that they have.
[38:49] » [clears throat]
[38:53] » So it would be the only place for it to
to replenish a water bottle. Is that No.
[38:58] There is There is two. There's one that
you have to go down into the weight
[39:03] room. In other words In other words,
down where the weights are, there is a
[39:07] water fountain down there. Okay.
Or you would have to come in the service
[39:12] complex and get on the second floor to
get water.
[39:17] Yeah, we probably need to have a place
where we can do that at.
[39:21] I mean, the water does work. It's just
the drain.
[39:24] » You can get a drink like a regular water
fountain or you can fill up the jug up a
[39:29] water bottle. Right. But if they run it
over,
[39:32] you got a mess.
[39:35] It feels to me like we need to resolve
that drain problem.
[39:39] » [clears throat and cough]
>> I don't know what's going on with it. I
[39:42] mean I've had it I think we jetted it
twice and just couldn't get through it
[39:46] for some reason.
>> Wow.
[39:48] Sounds serious. I don't know if it's
if it's a pipe that's clogged. One time
[39:54] I got coffee grounds out of it. You know
how hard packed they get.
[39:59] I mean
Anyway.
[40:03] I believe that's all I got except I
guess
[40:07] myself and Sheriff
>> At the courthouse
[40:11] we got all the quotes in to use the
bottom floor
[40:15] for prisoner transport. There's a old
door that needs replacing. It's an
[40:20] oversized door it's like two doors
together.
[40:23] The quote is on the last page that I
gave you a packet of. That's closing
[40:27] that in to make it a standard steel door
steel frame door.
[40:31] That's a 48 42 50.
And then the other two quotes the one
[40:36] right on top of that is to
put that on the fob system into the
[40:42] network
where we don't have keys. We have fob
[40:46] that gives us access to get in and out
that door
[40:49] especially for the transport officers
and then for his people too. We don't
[40:53] have that master key floating around
that gains access. That's the 44 34 06.
[40:59] Uh
and then the hallway door from inside
[41:04] the basement is the top quote to fob
that door also so again we don't have
[41:09] keys.
My my transport officers won't have
[41:12] keys. They'll just have the fob that
they already have and Bob can program
[41:16] who needs access to that. If a fob is
lost we can shut it off and that's
[41:21] that's not an issue. So
those three
[41:25] uh
items estimates we're going to have to
[41:28] use that and if that does come to
fruition
[41:32] there's a
we will start using that for permanent
[41:36] transport of prisoners in there so we're
not taking prisoners up the stairs
[41:41] through the main hall to the elevator.
We'll just go in ground level through
[41:44] the boiler room down the hallway to the
stair to the elevator then up the court.
[41:49] So it's a much
safer [clears throat]
[41:52] way and less interference and less
contact with our citizens when we're
[41:57] dealing with prisoners. So I'm asking
that these would be approved and then we
[42:02] pay for them out of the Hume courts. So
this is two separate doors?
[42:08] I mean the one one on the outside
>> is getting replaced. The other door is
[42:12] just getting wired up
to the network fob system. Got you.
[42:18] Sheriff as you know one of the options
that we're considering for the justice
[42:22] center is to utilize the
historic courthouse which is what we're
[42:27] talking about here remodel it move spare
court into the first floor keep circuit
[42:33] court on second floor that probably will
involve some type of right in the middle
[42:40] there's a discussion of a sally port and
how the how prisoners would be brought
[42:43] into there.
Obviously that's a ways down the road
[42:48] but it may not be a long ways down the
road. That would be one of the
[42:53] first things we would probably start on
um
[42:58] as we would want to
probably probably would wait till after
[43:03] construction of the new building. So I
guess maybe
[43:06] if if this solution is only going to be
used for pick a number two years
[43:12] would you still recommend doing it?
Or if we're going to throw it away after
[43:17] two years what would you say? My
question also is how long have we been
[43:21] doing it the way we're doing it? Well
we've been doing it forever and it's not
[43:26] the proper way of doing it.
>> I understand to Steve's point. So let's
[43:31] say it's two years so if we break that
down this is about a
[43:37] $500 a month investment
for that and I would still recommend we
[43:42] do that because honestly
the exterior door is not to par to begin
[43:49] with. Even if we did want to use it for
the
[43:53] take the prisoners in
it need that door needs replaced no
[43:57] matter what.
>> What what what what if we waited just Do
[44:01] we know a few weeks until we
until we begin to develop a plan.
[44:05] » Yeah do we know an answer what we're
doing? And and and then what once we
[44:09] look at the plan we can say yeah that
those doors are still going to be there
[44:12] after remodel whatever let's do it or no
they're going to be gone but they can be
[44:17] reused somewhere else or we reuse it
again or
[44:20] maybe if you we just kick the can down
the road a little bit.
[44:24] » that and then my question to you would
be okay
[44:27] then
in that
[44:30] plan once it comes to truth is the other
building going to be built first before
[44:35] that cuz then if that drags it out the
four years then I still say we need to
[44:39] do
I think we're looking at four years but
[44:41] it wouldn't surprise me if we're looking
at two. And I think your assessment $500
[44:44] a month is is
Yeah. That that's a good way to look at
[44:48] it. If we just throw it away at the end.
Well in the hardware itself the the the
[44:55] they call them
what do they call them the
[44:58] the readers the proximity readers so we
could reuse those on other doors. So
[45:01] some of the hardware we could do but the
exterior door
[45:05] again that needs done no matter what. So
nothing else I still say we move forward
[45:12] with that and we can hold off on adding
to the the network issues. Which one's
[45:16] which one?
>> The very last page.
[45:18] That is
>> 48 42 50.
[45:21] » Correct.
And I don't know if we're going to be
[45:23] able to do that.
>> problem going along with the door. That
[45:26] feels like a maintenance issue. Would
you agree with that Red? That's a
[45:28] maintenance issue. Do you have that in
your budget or do we still need to do
[45:31] that out of Hume courts? Well you would
have to pay that out of Hume courts. If
[45:36] you did that out of Hume courts
I understand that. I can I can pay that.
[45:41] » [clears throat]
>> How do you mean you can pay that? Okay.
[45:44] So I guess we'll hold off on adding the
fob systems but we still move forward on
[45:49] replacement of that door that he can
handle through his normal budget.
[45:53] That's the door. We've been hearing that
that door is bad for years and
[45:56] especially when the clerk moved new new
election equipment down there and stuff
[46:00] like that.
Sounds like plan to me. So we'll we'll
[46:04] hold off and then once
determination
[46:08] Nope he's got that in his budget so
>> Well yeah if you want me to replace it
[46:13] you can you can make that decision.
Okay.
[46:16] So we'll hold off on the fob system
until plans made on final decision of
[46:20] the judicial side. Good conversation
guys. Thank you. Thanks.
[46:27] Megan's here on Facebook. Oh Megan come
on up.
[46:31] Even better.
And she's got a stack of papers.
[46:36] Just one? Oh just one. Okay.
[46:41] Okay that's under them. How's the
Sheriff going to bring a second one?
[46:44] » Yeah yeah let's do that. That's nice.
We've got a new toy.
[46:49] Yeah we played with this
is this is on the what the plan
[46:53] commission had the other night. Yeah.
>> No this is not the reason. This is a
[46:57] subject
Okay all you're replacing Mark this one.
[47:01] Yep.
[47:03] But you got that other thing on the
agenda too right? Usually
[47:07] [clears throat]
usually the lawyers present that.
[47:10] Clayton has it Clayton has it okay.
Okay what is this one?
[47:19] So this is on 450 north and 200 west
and it's a [clears throat] little bit of
[47:26] a special
deal going on.
[47:30] Um you can see the original partial
comes all the way up. There's a portion
[47:34] here. Right now they're working with
Mark Burris' office to get this um
[47:40] used to be a railroad
to get that transferred into their name
[47:44] and they're going to make that a
subdivision up north.
[47:49] So we're kind in the middle of a big
process right now.
[47:53] How many acres are you talking
altogether? Um that looks like it would
[47:56] be an 80 altogether.
Yep it's three lots.
[48:03] So this is an existing
and an 18 and a three and right now
[48:08] they're building a new house This is a
lane? Correct. Wow. It's a long lane.
[48:13] You can see that's actually an existing
partial they're just including it into
[48:17] the subdivision.
Well your design committee went through
[48:21] this I'm sure. Yep.
It's been signed off just I haven't had
[48:25] Mark sign it yet but both Joe from the
health department and Mike surveyor So
[48:31] are they doing it as a major
subdivision? Because it's multiple
[48:34] partials each partial can have a
subdivision. Okay. So
[48:40] like even this
here already has two partials cuz that's
[48:44] a partial right now
and that's a second partial so right now
[48:48] they're doing two partials into one
subdivision
[48:50] and then they're going to get this
transferred into their name. It's a
[48:56] a vacated railroad.
So this right here is this right here.
[49:02] Correct.
So we're missing this
[49:07] Pam Lingerc.
[49:11] So there's going to be another one
that's up here. The reason it's not
[49:13] approved it's because it's
So there
[49:17] so this will be the subdivision. Yeah
it's going to come down.
[49:22] Yes. Right west of Richards. Yep.
So this is the old clay factory area.
[49:30] So there's going to be on the old grade
use. Right. So there's going to be
[49:33] another subdivision coming later that's
on the west side or the east side and
[49:38] going north.
[49:42] Okay, second.
[49:51] I was waiting for and bears on my
[49:59] Maybe one of their Detroit sports fans.
[50:08] Well, Indiana is getting the Bears,
ain't they?
[50:25] Um, if you want to. Yeah, it shouldn't
take long. Um
[50:29] Yeah, so then I'd be presenting um
ordinance number 2026-6, which is short
[50:34] title ordinance of the Board of
Commissioners of Adams County, state of
[50:36] Indiana, which rezones the property at
6091 North 500 West, Decatur, County of
[50:44] Adams, state of Indiana.
[50:47] It would it's the the ordinance would be
rezoning the relevant property from its
[50:52] current
zoning of agricultural to
[50:57] I1 light industrial.
[51:03] The applicant and the property owner did
um go before the Plan Commission and uh
[51:09] the Plan Commission did come back with a
uh recommendation of do pass.
[51:15] And I do know the property owner is
here. If you have any questions, you
[51:18] have them. What what's the ordinance
number? 20 or 26-6.
[51:24] 2026-6.
>> tell us what the use is going to be or
[51:26] give me any details on
Okay. I'm sorry, what fab
[51:30] Okay, fab shop. Yeah, we had a lengthy
discussion at Plan Commission meeting
[51:34] and it was
unanimously a positive recommendation.
[51:38] I abstained from that vote,
but I knew it would come here,
[51:43] so I moved it unless there's further
discussion or questions. What what's the
[51:48] address?
Um
[51:50] 6091 North 500 West.
It's off of 224. It's the first place
[51:56] going north on the east side.
[52:01] Yeah, it's a rezone from current ag to
I1 light industrial, I1.
[52:06] What's the acreage acreage isn't large
right now?
[52:09] » One. One acre. One acre. It's all
uh the Surrey district. Yeah.
[52:15] I move that we approve ordinance 26-6.
I'll second that. Motion passes.
[52:31] Thanks, Megan.
[52:57] » [clears throat]
>> That was actually uh
[52:59] prior to the rezoning
that um
[53:03] there was a subdivision plat that split
that into two lots.
[53:07] Um and that was approved through
um
[53:11] Plan Commission and then Commissioners.
So it's actually lot one
[53:16] in that subdivision is what's being
rezoned.
[53:25] There's a copy down here that we're
signing
[53:30] I just need you to test that one
signature and sign it.
[53:35] There's copy number two of that guy. So
I'll take a copy of Steve's. Megan want
[53:39] one, do you want one?
Sign one for Brooke. Sign one for
[53:43] Brooke. Okay. I'll give one to Brooke
and to Megan.
[53:57] Okay, are we all done with Plan
Commission?
[54:00] If so,
Rachel.
[54:04] I said 11:00. It's uh
not too not too bad for my timing.
[54:10] No. Thank you very much for having me
this morning. Can you hear me okay? We
[54:15] we can. If I could just do a a quick
quick intro here.
[54:19] Um
Rachel Cardis is with American Structure
[54:22] Point.
And back uh well over a year ago,
[54:27] probably a year and a half ago now.
Um at two years ago, we started with
[54:31] Surrey Committee, many of who are are
are out here today. I appreciate them
[54:35] coming.
Uh we started with a steering committee
[54:38] uh talking about uh
uh a a vision plan, a vision for Adams
[54:43] County.
And we first tried to answer the
[54:46] question of do we even need a vision
plan? What's a vision plan?
[54:49] Uh what what all does it entail?
And we kind of wrestled all those uh
[54:54] questions to the ground, ultimately
decided that we really uh it would be
[54:59] beneficial
uh
[55:01] to have uh
to create a vision for Adams County, a
[55:05] future vision for Adams County.
Um
[55:08] And so we we listened to uh
how other counties have done it. Uh it's
[55:13] not new to county governments to
uh to work through a vision plan, 20 or
[55:19] 30-year vision for the county. Uh so
that's um
[55:22] that that that's And and then we started
looking for a partner that could help us
[55:26] do that. Uh and we interviewed
I believe we interviewed five. You guys
[55:31] correct me if I'm wrong. I don't have my
notes in front of me. Who did we
[55:34] interview? Five uh applicants to be a
partner to help us craft this vision
[55:39] plan. Ultimately, we chose American
Structure Point. Uh Rachel Cardis was
[55:44] assigned as our uh as our project
manager. And so we've been working with
[55:49] Rachel and her team now for well over a
year and a half. Is that Is that
[55:53] correct, Rachel? Feels like it feels
like longer than that, but a year and a
[55:56] half or so. Yeah, that's about right.
And we have we've gone through uh many
[56:01] many steering committee meetings. We've
gone through um
[56:05] uh public presentations. We've gone
through public information gathering
[56:10] sessions. We sat Rachel and her team sat
at 4-H Fair and uh and Swiss Days and uh
[56:17] uh various concerts in Decatur just
gathering public input. Uh we we did a
[56:23] uh
uh
[56:24] uh a
a survey and we received uh
[56:29] uh I know it was over 500, 600, or 700
uh responses to that survey. Uh
[56:35] and so what you're seeing today, and
this is a presentation to the
[56:39] Commissioners,
uh what you're seeing today is the
[56:42] proposal from the steering committee.
Uh
[56:45] we would uh ultimately like you to
consider this to be adopted uh by the
[56:50] Commissioners as a vision plan for Adams
County.
[56:53] Uh we won't ask you to do that today
because I know it's a lot of
[56:56] information, but Rachel's kind of going
to walk us through that plan. I've got
[57:00] hard copies for each of you.
Um
[57:03] just to kind of follow along.
But uh Rachel, what am I missing
[57:08] uh other than a a great a huge debt of
gratitude to the steering committee for
[57:13] all of their hours? Uh those of you that
are out here, thank you. Uh many uh we
[57:18] had several that were here last week.
Uh and and Rachel was a little bit under
[57:24] the weather and we needed to uh to
postpone last week. Uh
[57:28] Thank you, Steve. But uh but here we are
and and we've got a uh a vision for
[57:34] Adams County that we'd like to talk
about. So Rachel, if you wouldn't mind,
[57:37] take it from there.
Thank you, Steve. I wanted to just say
[57:40] it's been a great experience. It's been
about 14 months or more, almost a year
[57:45] and a half of getting to know Adams
County and it's been you guys have a
[57:48] unique, wonderful community and it's
really been a pleasure to be able to
[57:52] work with you guys over the past year
and a half and I'm kind of proud to be
[57:56] able to show you this and showcase this
and bring it to fruition. So I thought I
[58:00] would go over you do have hard copies
and you can dive into each page and let
[58:05] us know kind of your thoughts and your
comments, but I'd like to just give you
[58:09] an overview of how we came to be, what
the process was, what were some of the
[58:14] key findings. As Steve said, we did lots
of engagement with community stakeholder
[58:18] interviews. We did public engagement. We
were at Swiss Days. We were at Adams
[58:24] County Fair, Decatur concert series. So
we did a lot of a lot of getting out
[58:29] with the public in in the process and
kind of bringing some of those
[58:33] sentiments back on what what the public
wanted to see for the future vision of
[58:37] of Adams County. With that, I'll just go
ahead and kind of get started.
[58:42] Make sure Can you guys see the
presentation there okay?
[58:45] Yeah. We can. Okay, just want to be
sure. I can kind of see it in the back
[58:49] of the room, James, and so that's good.
So over the year course of the year, we
[58:53] did three phases. Phase one was educate.
Phase two was explore and phase three
[58:58] was empower, kind of where we are now.
Under phase number one, we really got to
[59:03] know you at a data level. We did a kind
of a a due diligence on what your
[59:07] economic conditions are, what the retail
climate is, what you're looking at as
[59:11] far as parks and placemaking. And we
took all the existing plans from the
[59:16] from the county, from Berne, and from
Monroe, from Geneva, and all the
[59:20] communities, and we collectively just
made a very good baseline of data to
[59:24] work off of to help the steering
committee understand what are the
[59:28] current trends of population, what are
the what are the projections for the
[59:31] future, what are the housing trends that
are affecting your community now? How
[59:36] are we going to look at getting
attainable housing in the future? So,
[59:39] the first phase was really to get to
understand the steering committee, to
[59:43] hold interviews, to do public input, and
also collect that data to present to the
[59:48] steering committee as well. Then we
moved on to phase two and we really kind
[59:51] of rolled up our sleeves and we started
brainstorming.
[59:54] Steering committee members, I give them
a lot of credit. They stuck with us and
[59:58] did lots of visioning sessions where we
were able to kind of bounce ideas off of
[1:00:03] each other from what came back from the
public input and put those into goals
[1:00:07] and recommendations. And where Structure
Point kind of differentiates from other
[1:00:12] firms is we make sure we don't just
leave you with a plan, with things that
[1:00:16] sound good. Like, that's a great goal.
How are we going to achieve it? How are
[1:00:19] you going to fund it? We leave you with
a playbook to say, "Hey, here's all the
[1:00:23] steps that you need to achieve this.
Here's the funding sources. Here's where
[1:00:27] you go after this is done." And I think
one of the key things that came out of
[1:00:32] phase two here is that we have a Adams
County Vision Plan Task Force. So, after
[1:00:38] this, the plan won't just sit on a
shelf. There'll be a task force and
[1:00:42] everybody's going to kind of understand,
"Okay, these are year one initiatives.
[1:00:46] These are mid-term initiatives. These
are long-term initiatives." So, that's
[1:00:50] what we kind of looked at and
brainstormed in phase two. Phase three
[1:00:54] is what I'm going to show you today,
getting towards adoption and
[1:00:57] recommendation to implement into the
county.
[1:01:02] So, the key components of the vision
plan as you go through today, we focused
[1:01:06] on economic development, cultural and
livability, transportation and
[1:01:11] infrastructure, housing,
education and health services, the Amish
[1:01:16] community, which was a big focus and
lots of common conversations around that
[1:01:21] and lots of focus on that as well, youth
engagement and retention. So, these are
[1:01:26] our seven key components that will have
themes, that will have recommendations,
[1:01:30] that will have strategies as you go
through the vision plan.
[1:01:36] Under [snorts] the public engagement
summary, I wanted to highlight and I
[1:01:39] won't go through um each one of these in
in in heavy detail. If you want to
[1:01:44] really review that, you can get with
through the plan. But, I wanted to bring
[1:01:48] to you what's on the mind of your
residents. Whether we were in Monroe,
[1:01:51] Geneva, at the county fair, what kind of
came back to us not only in public
[1:01:56] surveys and open houses, it was
preserving the rural character, um
[1:02:02] making sure that the agricultural
heritage and legacy remained intact, um
[1:02:06] balance for economic growth. They wanted
to see small business thrive, but also
[1:02:11] have the ability to have larger
employment economic base, larger
[1:02:16] manufacturing facilities, larger
employment um opportunities for the
[1:02:21] residents either from commuting in or
leaving to go out to Allen County, to
[1:02:25] Fort Wayne. They felt like we needed to
look at balanced economic growth.
[1:02:30] Infrastructure and connectivity, we
spent a great deal of time with the
[1:02:33] county highway departments and really
understood kind of what the issues are
[1:02:38] that are unique and germane to Adams
County. So, you'll see that further down
[1:02:42] the presentation, but we we really heard
that back from, you know, not only the
[1:02:46] county highway director, but we heard
from residents saying, you know, we need
[1:02:51] to improve our roads this way or, you
know, we have these Amish impacts or we
[1:02:55] have to look at how can we look at this
towards the future to make sure that our
[1:03:00] that our county is well connected. And a
lot of the infrastructure and
[1:03:03] connectivity didn't just deal with cars
on the road. It was, you know, whether
[1:03:07] it was Amish buggies, whether it was
being able to do bikes and trail systems
[1:03:12] and really growing your park system in
Adams County and kind of getting the
[1:03:16] ball rolling that way. It's just people
really were seeking out different
[1:03:21] recreational amenities.
Quality of life was a big key component
[1:03:26] that came back. What would make, you
know, young people that move back to the
[1:03:29] area? What amenities will be here in the
future? Housing diversity, that was the
[1:03:34] big one. There's a lot of um it's not
unique to Adams County, but just the
[1:03:39] housing diversity and being able to
afford entry level or kind of that
[1:03:43] missing middle and understanding the
frustrations and some of what's going on
[1:03:47] with the housing market
um from people that want to live in
[1:03:51] Adams County or feel they they have to
kind of, you know, shell in and and stay
[1:03:55] where they are just because of the kind
of the trends in the housing market.
[1:03:59] Agricultural and environmental
sustainability, this was a big one as
[1:04:04] well, just protecting your heritage, but
growing strategically.
[1:04:09] Um community identity and pride, this
was very big. Uh I I I want to say, you
[1:04:14] know, in all my years of of doing this,
I've never seen three high schools that
[1:04:18] have so much individual pride and I
think that's great. I think that makes a
[1:04:22] a very um
very healthy rivalry and a very um
[1:04:27] prideful community. It just really
um shows you guys really give a lot of
[1:04:31] to your schools and you really take a
lot of pride in your your activities,
[1:04:35] your sports, your academics. So, that
was something that kind of came through
[1:04:39] with the
with the public engagement as well.
[1:04:44] So, Penna, that's an overview of all the
surveys, the conversations, all the
[1:04:49] events that we had. And so, when we
brought this back to the steering
[1:04:53] committee, it's how do you harmonize all
the public input from the survey? How do
[1:04:57] you harmonize everything that comes out
of the steering committee? How do you
[1:05:01] harmonize everything that comes back
with the stakeholder interviews and put
[1:05:05] it into an action plan? So, you start
with a lot of ideas and you brainstorm.
[1:05:10] So, the ones that I'm going to cover
today, I just want to say that they've
[1:05:13] been thoroughly vetted by the steering
committee before we brought them before
[1:05:17] you, before we put them in the plan. And
it was really a prioritization exercise.
[1:05:22] So, before we picked the the following
critical path strategies, we said,
[1:05:27] "Which ones really float to the top?
Which ones are critical to the future of
[1:05:31] Adams County and which ones do you want
to see come to fruition?" So, with that
[1:05:36] said, I'll segue into the first one.
Um the first one is the transportation
[1:05:41] strategy. There, the critical path
strategy that I I referred to before
[1:05:45] shows you exactly the action steps that
you need to achieve to get a a capital
[1:05:51] improvement plan and program in your
community, what the estimated cost is,
[1:05:55] the time frame, and we work with the
county highway director very closely to
[1:06:00] understand what the needs and the unique
needs of the road systems are within
[1:06:04] Adams County. So, this was one of the
prioritization exercise. This one
[1:06:09] floated to the top. So, one of the key
strategies is to develop a capital
[1:06:13] improvement plan and program.
Under housing, we spent a lot of time
[1:06:19] understanding, you know, what the
development market is. We worked with
[1:06:23] the private builders in the community.
We talked to property owners. We
[1:06:27] understood from the sentiment of, you
know, not just second and third
[1:06:31] generation of where the housing market
is now and the need for housing. We did
[1:06:37] our own demographic and trends and
looked at what kind of housing stock you
[1:06:42] will need for the future.
And, you know, with all that
[1:06:45] conversation and all that input,
the steering committee really felt to be
[1:06:50] able to incentivize housing growth.
Whether that's looking at your zoning
[1:06:55] regulations to look at mixed density, to
maybe allowing more density or a variety
[1:07:01] of housing types. They did not kind of
key it under any one principle. They
[1:07:06] just wanted to make sure that we're
looking at our ordinance standards,
[1:07:10] we're looking at our housing strategy,
that you're looking at, you know, the
[1:07:14] future of Adams County to be able to
open up the variety of housing that can
[1:07:19] be allowed and make sure that you're
planning for the future to have housing
[1:07:24] in strategic locations. Whether that's
around Decatur, whether that was around
[1:07:29] Berne, whether that was around Monroe or
throughout the rural residential areas.
[1:07:34] We're going to look at housing
throughout that, um kind of following up
[1:07:37] on the housing task force.
[1:07:42] The next was the Amish community. We had
a great process. Um we were able to
[1:07:47] discuss some of the key issues, not
just, you know, from the residents as
[1:07:54] well as the Amish representatives. We
had bishops that attended
[1:07:59] uh one of our steering committee
meetings. I was able to get out and meet
[1:08:03] a couple of the bishops on a a couple of
occasions to really understand what they
[1:08:08] would like to see for the future of of
Adams County and what are some of the
[1:08:13] key issues they're facing and uh kind of
as a result of all that communication
[1:08:19] and opening up about the issues and kind
of talking about pros and cons on each
[1:08:23] side, it was decided through the task
force to involve um an Amish
[1:08:28] representative to, you know, be named at
a subsequent date, but to have them on
[1:08:33] the Adams County Vision Task Force and
be able to bring issues, whether it's
[1:08:38] schools, whether it's hospital,
education, whether it's one was a very
[1:08:43] big one was public transportation
um availability to employment
[1:08:47] opportunities, not just for the younger
generation, but for the senior
[1:08:51] population. So, I think there's going to
be a lot of discourse in the future, but
[1:08:55] I really like the channel that was
opened up during this process and kind
[1:08:59] of a real kind of firm understanding of
some of the things that the Amish would
[1:09:03] like to see from Adams County in the
future and and vice versa. And so, I
[1:09:08] think that's a a great starting point
that this plan is has done.
[1:09:13] Economic development, um I want to thank
Colton Bickel for all of his input and
[1:09:18] all of the time he has spent. He has
been our liaison as as well as
[1:09:23] Commissioner Bailey on this project. And
so, working with Steve to understand
[1:09:28] um the dynamics right now with economic
development in Adams County. One of the
[1:09:33] key initiatives was to come up with an
inventory of all the business community
[1:09:37] to understand available properties to
kind of start that public private excuse
[1:09:42] me public private partnership
discussions with property owners not
[1:09:46] with just key downtown economic areas
but with a small to medium-size
[1:09:51] employers and different parcels that may
be amenable to open having open
[1:09:58] development and those discussions in the
future. So just looking at how to
[1:10:02] diversify the employment, diversify the
building type but also too it landed
[1:10:07] really into what kind of amenities and
entertainment and attractions outside of
[1:10:13] business and having employment in Adams
County can we look to to kind of grow
[1:10:17] different business strategies from an
entertainment and a place making
[1:10:21] perspective. And so this plan does a
really great job of that and this is
[1:10:24] just one of those initiatives.
[1:10:28] Small business growth as I said we
talked a lot about downtown
[1:10:33] economic development. You guys have a
host of wonderful festivals and
[1:10:38] community events that you hold. You
really cherish your downtowns. We really
[1:10:43] just want to kind of continue you know
looking at succession planning, how to
[1:10:47] grow small business, how to retain them.
Colt does a fantastic job. This is
[1:10:52] really just to bring all the communities
and not you know not that they operate
[1:10:56] on a silo basis now but it's really just
to kind of build that that network
[1:11:01] between all the downtowns throughout
Adams County and see where they can kind
[1:11:05] of build on partnerships and help
networking events, help kind of you know
[1:11:10] support each other through the business
channels and and bring them together. So
[1:11:14] that's what this initiative is all
about.
[1:11:18] Youth engagement. This was a a great
discussion that we had throughout
[1:11:23] the process. We really wanted to
understand right now what is there to do
[1:11:28] for young people in Adams County? Where
do they hang out? What would be some
[1:11:32] desired amenities whether it's place
making and and things to do downtown or
[1:11:37] understanding you know sustainability
for your future. Are you going to in 5
[1:11:42] years have the same amenities that you
had for the youth today? And so kind of
[1:11:47] looking at youth retention it wasn't
just for coming back and having a job
[1:11:52] and affordable housing but the amenities
to be able to say if we live in this
[1:11:57] community and we travel to Fort Wayne
for entertainment or we go to
[1:12:01] restaurants here, it really took a a
deep dive to kind of look at and say how
[1:12:06] are we going to look at the future for
you know not just our high school
[1:12:09] graduates but the generations that
follow. How are you going to sustain
[1:12:14] your population outside of employment
and outside of housing and what can we
[1:12:19] do to kind of drive the impetus to be
able to say we're going to create great
[1:12:23] parks. We're going to create great
trails. We're going to have
[1:12:27] a sense of place and a sense of
community that way. So that's you know
[1:12:31] step by step and you know it doesn't
happen in a day and you know it'll take
[1:12:36] getting this this task force going but
like I think that the the vision is
[1:12:40] there to be able to to say here's what
we would like and we're going to kind of
[1:12:44] take it step by step. So that was a
great part of that initiative as well.
[1:12:50] Well Steve I'll I'll turn it back to you
to open up for any questions or anything
[1:12:54] you'd like me to to cover throughout.
Happy to answer anything that anyone
[1:13:00] would want to ask.
Good. Thanks Rachel.
[1:13:04] Start with I know it's a lot to start
with the commissioners. You guys uh
[1:13:07] thoughts, anything you heard? We're not
going to uh
[1:13:11] not going to ask you to adopt this today
but ultimately would like you to
[1:13:15] consider like us to consider adopting
this plan or some version of this plan
[1:13:21] as our as our vision for the future.
So any questions or thoughts from you
[1:13:26] guys then we'll open it up to the
public.
[1:13:30] I have a couple. Stan you have? No, go
ahead. You're fine.
[1:13:34] Uh
I just
[1:13:36] This is first I saw it. So I just
briefly gleaned through it.
[1:13:41] I think the statistics on the Amish
population is significantly
[1:13:46] lower than what the vision plan has.
I think it mentioned 11,000.
[1:13:52] I would say that the Amish population in
this county is
[1:13:55] much closer to
uh
[1:13:59] I'll just [snorts] throw a figure out
that I think is fairly accurate 18,000
[1:14:04] at least.
And my second
[1:14:08] you know I I guess your question is you
we're not going to we're not going to uh
[1:14:14] I I I I I don't see a problem in the
future of what what was your
[1:14:19] language that you said to adopt to adopt
it?
[1:14:22] » Adopt this as a as a vision
>> as a vision plan. I I don't I don't see
[1:14:25] any problem in the future of adopting
this.
[1:14:28] Um
I guess I would like to know a little
[1:14:31] bit
um
[1:14:35] I guess without giving this a lot of
thought and a lot of study
[1:14:38] my my first impression is that this is
kind of a
[1:14:42] road map Very very aspirational. It's
not not
[1:14:46] » It's kind of yeah it's kind of a road
map. It's not the
[1:14:50] it is not the
Adams County comprehensive plan use
[1:14:56] ordinance that we have. land use
ordinance
[1:14:59] And
I think this road map
[1:15:03] would be
of assistance
[1:15:07] to the plan commission members as they
consider possible changes to the
[1:15:12] ordinances on land use.
I think that's what we had in mind was
[1:15:18] drafting something that that reflected
the aspirations of Adams County
[1:15:26] residents, what they see
for the future and what they hope for
[1:15:32] for the future of Adams County and then
as we begin to think about the
[1:15:36] comprehensive land use plan and other
ordinances and things that that factor
[1:15:41] into that how those things work together
and complement each other.
[1:15:48] Yeah, because
you know having sat on the plan
[1:15:52] commission
for many years
[1:15:55] and currently on it
when
[1:15:58] when discussion comes up about
things such as
[1:16:04] uh such as I'll just throw a couple
examples such as wind turbines or
[1:16:08] discussions come up with
uh
[1:16:11] things such as solar farms
you know then
[1:16:16] as that discussion is evolves
we go back to the comprehensive Adams
[1:16:23] County comprehensive land use plan and
say
[1:16:27] what is the general what's this general
I could see this as
[1:16:33] as a supporting document
as we as the plan commission
[1:16:37] investigates major decisions. I agree.
[1:16:43] So it's kind of like I guess my my
interpretation would be it's kind of
[1:16:47] like a road map. Yeah.
[1:16:51] Stan thoughts? First thoughts?
>> I guess I'd like to spend some more time
[1:16:55] with her.
Absolutely.
[1:16:57] » I I think it's been approached
very thoughtfully with starting with the
[1:17:02] public input with
with the steering committee input and
[1:17:06] with the assistance of American
Structurepoint and so
[1:17:10] you know it's been been very
thoughtfully developed. So I'd I'd like
[1:17:14] to spend some time with it. Good. But
yeah. Yeah. I know the steering
[1:17:18] committee spent just hours and hours and
hours in this room and outside this room
[1:17:22] talking about um
first talking about the mechanics of how
[1:17:27] we would gather a vision. You know when
you think of county of 35,000 residents
[1:17:32] um and and how do you
collaborate or collectively gather their
[1:17:38] thoughts
and and put that into some kind of a of
[1:17:42] a vision for the future um
you know how we sample those those
[1:17:47] thoughts and gather those thoughts and
and then try to assess and analyze those
[1:17:52] with steering committee and with
Rachel's help um trying to
[1:17:56] understand what was being said and what
the what what the
[1:18:00] uh
that
[1:18:02] that vision was it just it just took
quite a bit of time and and um
[1:18:07] and so um Valuable sir. I I think it was
I think it was very well done. You know
[1:18:12] I I'm assuming there was probably grant
money available to help put this
[1:18:16] together.
>> Well we we actually used some of the the
[1:18:18] ARPA funds. Okay. So it it was
we we used some ARPA funds to to help
[1:18:24] put it together. Well one one thing I
would mention
[1:18:27] along with the Adams County
land use
[1:18:33] uh plan
is
[1:18:36] those kind of documents including this
when you have a different set of leaders
[1:18:43] you have a different set of elected
officials
[1:18:46] you know
none of us are going to be here forever.
[1:18:50] I've I've seen these kind of things
[1:18:55] someone says well you have a
comprehensive land use plan or now we're
[1:18:58] talking about a a vision plan.
And sometimes new leaders that come in
[1:19:03] say
well
[1:19:06] where are they? So so you grab you drag
them out of a cabinet and shake the dust
[1:19:12] off of them.
And so I would like to see not only this
[1:19:17] but in the in the plan commission on the
comprehensive plan I would like to see a
[1:19:23] some type of a review or some type of a
system and I think that was mentioned
[1:19:28] somewhere in in her presentation
that it's revisited on a periodic basis.
[1:19:34] » And Rachel help help me if I'm wrong
here, but
[1:19:37] I think it's our intention for each one
of those major categories to basically
[1:19:41] have a uh a
a team or a group that works to kind of
[1:19:48] flush out those
uh
[1:19:50] those
areas of focus and continue to build out
[1:19:55] specific action items and and help us to
uh
[1:20:00] bring this vision to reality
near term and long term.
[1:20:05] Uh so I think that
that's kind of where we're at. Is that
[1:20:09] correct, Rachel? Yeah, it's it's dead on
where you guys say it's a playbook and
[1:20:14] so it can be tweaked, but I really the
Adams County Vision Task Force each one
[1:20:18] of those initiatives that come out of
the plan what do we call responsible
[1:20:22] party or I call them kind of the
community champion that's going to get
[1:20:26] the baton passed to them to spear off,
you know, what that initiative is and
[1:20:31] they're going to be able to use their
their staff or whoever they assign to
[1:20:34] that actual initiative and you guys are
going to meet however frequently is
[1:20:39] necessary to say, okay, where are we on
this initiative? How are we progressing,
[1:20:44] you know, how much funding, you know, to
basically look at it as what's our
[1:20:48] collective needs to keep the needle
moving in all these areas.
[1:20:52] So yes, yeah, it's it's very much
treated like a playbook.
[1:20:56] I would I I would hope that as
commissioners we have an expectation
[1:21:00] that periodically whether that's
annually or maybe twice a year or
[1:21:03] whatever that we would get an update
from
[1:21:07] those responsible parties. Where are you
at on this? What what are you thinking?
[1:21:10] What's your team thinking? What have you
done? What are you trying to do? How can
[1:21:13] we help?
>> Steve, but
[1:21:16] who who are who are these responsible
parties?
[1:21:20] What department in county organization
does this fall under?
[1:21:24] » Yeah, I hear you.
You know, and that obviously it's it's
[1:21:28] ours. We're going to adopt it. So I
think it it is ours, but a very natural
[1:21:34] responsible party for like for the
economic development piece very natural
[1:21:38] for
economic development to try kind of
[1:21:41] drive that piece. But when we think
about uh health and welfare, I know part
[1:21:46] of that group was Dr. Smith, you know,
from the hospital. So there'll be
[1:21:51] a kind of a mini task force that I don't
know whether we've actually identified
[1:21:57] who each one of those folks are and
who's going to be on that mini task
[1:22:00] force, but there'll be a mini task force
associated with each one of these
[1:22:04] primary objectives and I would expect
that they would be they would come and
[1:22:08] report periodically to the commissioners
how they're doing and what's going on.
[1:22:13] Well, I don't know that we've got to
that level to that level yet.
[1:22:16] » don't want to I don't want to have
I don't want to see this laid in in the
[1:22:20] cabinet somewhere.
>> Yeah, that that was my fear from the
[1:22:22] beginning.
That was my fear from the beginning is
[1:22:25] is that we not just have this
aspirational vision that that sits on a
[1:22:29] shelf and nobody even remembers 5 years
from now and we're trying to paint a
[1:22:33] vision for the next 20 years and 5 years
from now it's it's dust. So we don't we
[1:22:37] don't want that. I'll I'll throw in a
little comment, too. I know being part
[1:22:41] of those committees, it's not just
necessarily finding some appointed
[1:22:46] person or a salaried position that says
it's your job to then go and implement
[1:22:50] the vision plan, Steve. I think that
there's there's opportunities within
[1:22:53] that of different service organizations
and other volunteer groups. What this
[1:22:58] helps you do is it gives gives the
county here's the things that we've
[1:23:02] we've heard we want to see and there's
service groups and clubs and groups that
[1:23:06] have that are volunteering time and
they're looking for opportunities to
[1:23:09] participate in this. It allows you to
try to work within that vision as well
[1:23:13] and say here's how we want to try to
partner with with different areas.
[1:23:18] Well, [clears throat] well, one of the
areas of focus that we had was that kind
[1:23:21] of that Amish community um
and and
[1:23:26] my hope
is that an outshoot of this discussion
[1:23:31] is some kind of an ongoing dialogue with
a a representative
[1:23:37] um
portion of the Amish community between
[1:23:39] the Amish and and Adams County
government and we begin to talk about
[1:23:43] things like transportation struggles and
and and other issues that are that that
[1:23:48] are prevalent that we just kind of
as of today we're just kind of uh
[1:23:53] um
accepting, but how do we begin to be
[1:23:58] proactively plan planful in a in
approaching those challenges and
[1:24:03] opportunities. So again, I think it's
still I don't know that we have all the
[1:24:07] answers at this point. Um but what we
tried to do is over the last couple of
[1:24:11] years just at least identify the major
questions and the major challenges and
[1:24:15] then put together some um
[1:24:21] objectives with some strategies that we
can begin to attack those Yeah, I think
[1:24:26] I think the most
I'm not being critical. I think Rachel
[1:24:30] you did a great job. Steve, your
leadership in this was
[1:24:33] was very good. I think we've got a nice
very well organized document. But I
[1:24:38] think where the rubber's going to hit
the road
[1:24:41] where the rubber's actually going to hit
the road is during plan commission
[1:24:44] meetings
when we have
[1:24:47] when we have some major discussions on
land use in the county and then we go
[1:24:54] back to as a plan commission members are
trying to make a recommendation to the
[1:24:59] commissioners like we had this morning,
okay, on on Mr. House request, okay. I
[1:25:05] think where rubber's going to hit the
road is when we can say
[1:25:10] when the plan commission is discussing
what is the overall
[1:25:15] comprehensive land use plan in Adams
County currently and if we're talking
[1:25:20] about changing an ordinance, then
>> [clears throat]
[1:25:24] » we could refer to this document.
This could be an added document along
[1:25:30] with the comprehensive plan.
>> I I think probably that's a great
[1:25:33] example of how this document might
influence those discussions. We we heard
[1:25:39] um
pretty loud and clear that the
[1:25:41] agricultural
uh culture
[1:25:46] the rural culture and the agricultural
culture of our community is very
[1:25:51] important to the residents that we heard
from. And so when we think about from a
[1:25:55] plan commission perspective and maybe a
comprehensive land use perspective, when
[1:26:00] we think about those aspects that may
detract from that agricultural
[1:26:06] or rural culture that we value
you may be able to go back to this
[1:26:12] document and say, now wait a minute, I
remember in the vision plan when we
[1:26:17] drafted this vision for the future, it
really held that in high importance that
[1:26:22] we not detract from that
uh rural culture that that we have. So I
[1:26:28] think you're exactly right. We don't
have the details in here of how that
[1:26:32] lives out, but I think we have that
aspiration that says
[1:26:37] we like that aspect of of
life in Adams County. Don't mess that
[1:26:42] up.
So I think that's what And again, you
[1:26:45] know, it's it's one thing for me to sit
here for the three of us to sit here to
[1:26:49] be quite honest with you and say, yeah,
that's our vision.
[1:26:52] But you know, all every one of the three
of us won't be here someday and whose
[1:26:57] vision is that going to be then? But
what we tried to do as best we could was
[1:27:01] create a vision of the residents of
Adams County. We didn't get 35,000
[1:27:06] visions and try to put that into a
vision, but we sampled thousands of
[1:27:11] people and tried to put that into this
vision.
[1:27:14] Yeah, and I you know, here's a good
example. On page 87
[1:27:20] it says, how important is it for Adams
County to preserve its rural and
[1:27:25] agricultural land?
And the survey said 53.7%
[1:27:31] thought it was extremely important.
And then it went to 27 very important.
[1:27:36] So I think that is a good indicator.
>> So a total of 80% felt that it was
[1:27:40] extremely or very important that we
preserve the
[1:27:43] » And and I think the plan commission
should take that into consideration
[1:27:47] during discussion. And I think those
are, you know, when you think about the
[1:27:50] play of a parks board and a parks plan
and
[1:27:53] we have a
hospital board and we have all these
[1:27:56] different entities that
that
[1:28:00] do forward planning and forward
thinking. I think this is something that
[1:28:04] can help them. Yeah, I hope
>> And so so it carries one step further.
[1:28:09] And I'm not being critical at all. I
think this is well done. But it you can
[1:28:13] always take it one step further and say,
okay, let's look beyond the plan
[1:28:17] commission on making decisions. That
would be when we get requests for
[1:28:22] subdivisions out in the in the county
and things of that type, you know, this
[1:28:26] could be a leading this could be a
not a game changer, but a consideration.
[1:28:32] Yeah, I think it's done well. Stan,
other thoughts before we pass it out to
[1:28:36] the public?
I I think we have to take a
[1:28:40] real hard look at uh what our
administrative responsibilities are as
[1:28:45] commissioners. You know, we are here as
a county government. The county
[1:28:49] government has core responsibilities,
but we also have peripheral
[1:28:52] responsibilities
to support and facilitate uh
[1:28:57] quality of life issues. You know, like
4-H is a big one, the extension board.
[1:29:01] We've always supported that. Uh things
like that. So, you know, back to back to
[1:29:06] Nate's point
you know, you you've got uh
[1:29:11] uh other
[1:29:16] uh board
>> uh boards and and people that they would
[1:29:22] have a specific [snorts] interest in
specific parts of this
[1:29:25] to promote
things. So, you know, as far as the
[1:29:29] parks board, I think it would force us
to take a good hard look at at the
[1:29:34] cooperative efforts we do with the city
and and
[1:29:37] you know, to to provide better better
county parks and Right.
[1:29:43] » And a big part of it is housing, too.
You know, for years we've said, "Oh, we
[1:29:47] need more housing. We need more housing.
We need more housing." Well,
[1:29:50] we can facilitate that. But as far as
county government, we can't build the
[1:29:55] first house.
>> [clears throat]
[1:29:56] » So, you know, we have to be able and
prepared to facilitate some of the
[1:30:01] things in here even though as county
government um we're not going to go out
[1:30:06] there and build 100 houses. But we can
facilitate plans and zoning
[1:30:11] to to help those people that are
building houses. So,
[1:30:14] » Sure. we have to kind of really look at
what our responsibility as commissioners
[1:30:19] in county government is to facilitate
this plan. So, you know, and and to look
[1:30:25] at the organizations that may
may be willing to
[1:30:31] participate in in the in some of these
goals.
[1:30:36] Um
Thoughts from the public?
[1:30:39] You all are here or many of you here are
just specifically for this topic.
[1:30:45] What do you think?
[1:30:49] Anybody? Come on up. State your name,
please, and
[1:30:57] Good morning, uh Wiley Sirk. Hi, Wiley.
And and this is a little more granular
[1:31:03] than I than where you're at right now,
but you just talked about need for
[1:31:07] public transportation.
And uh I it really is a and I'm not
[1:31:13] really telling you anything new. It is a
need across the whole county.
[1:31:19] Uh I recently learned of one example of
how it could very much benefit some
[1:31:25] individuals that are
working to improve their themselves,
[1:31:31] their future. And that would be at the
Merit Center, at the Literacy Alliance
[1:31:36] classroom, where young adults, well, not
adults, are working to complete their
[1:31:44] GED.
>> Yeah.
[1:31:45] And there are cases where
they can't get there.
[1:31:49] And it's even to the point where they've
had to give up on completing their GED
[1:31:56] because of no transportation. So, I just
wanted to share that one little piece
[1:32:01] there. Uh a little more granular than
where we're at right now, but
[1:32:05] » But but I think your point the the point
that I would take out of that, Wiley, is
[1:32:08] there are many things that I don't see
as commissioner.
[1:32:12] When when when Michelle Lingor came to
us and said, "We need public
[1:32:16] transportation. We need we need to work
on this um
[1:32:19] this
effort throughout the county." To be
[1:32:23] quite honest with you, my response was,
"Really? I didn't know that." So, I
[1:32:27] think until you look at
take a project like this and survey
[1:32:33] as many people as you can and try to
solicit those that vision and build that
[1:32:39] vision from as many people as you can
possibly work with,
[1:32:43] we miss many things. I miss many things.
One of those would have been public
[1:32:49] transportation. Now, Michelle has done a
great job with kind of try to build that
[1:32:53] out and offer that. And I would hope
that
[1:32:56] that somebody who's pursuing a GED in
Adams County can get to class. Right.
[1:33:01] Now, but
that wouldn't have been the case two or
[1:33:04] three years ago. The the difficulty
right now is these are evening classes.
[1:33:10] And so, So, obviously that's another gap
we need to address. Yeah. So, Yeah.
[1:33:15] Point well taken. If I can speak to
that, I mean, when when Michelle came to
[1:33:19] us,
she
[1:33:23] facilitated this whole plan
uh and attempted to go through Wells
[1:33:28] County and and that was not agreed on.
So, because of the plan she put together
[1:33:33] for the 5311 transportation plan, she
expanded it from health and medical
[1:33:38] needs to a full public transportation.
And that was a huge huge I mean, we are
[1:33:44] light years ahead of where we were.
And then to the for the county to
[1:33:49] facilitate that, we purchased the
property, built a building for all the
[1:33:53] vehicles,
uh and uh
[1:33:57] facilitated an office for her.
And I I think we have made huge strides
[1:34:03] in public transportation.
>> We have.
[1:34:05] » So, so the last thing that I would be
critical on is is moving public
[1:34:11] transportation ahead cuz I think we have
done, you know, we we have a lot of
[1:34:15] money not only out of the commissioner's
budget, which I think this year was
[1:34:19] 44,000 for the operation, but
[clears throat] also out of the local
[1:34:24] uh
uh
[1:34:27] the lit taxes
to facilitate.
[1:34:30] » Sure. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm not
disagreeing, but you
[1:34:34] we are light years ahead of where we had
been. But again,
[1:34:38] this is another little component, but
yet it's a major component for those
[1:34:43] that it's impacting.
>> But that that public transportation came
[1:34:47] out of this study as one of those areas
of focus that we need to work on. Now,
[1:34:52] um and I don't think any of this
um steering committee members, you guys
[1:34:56] chime in here. Um
I don't think any of this was meant to
[1:34:59] be critical of where we're at today.
It's meant to be visionary of where how
[1:35:04] we can even be better in the future. So,
we do have we are light years ahead of
[1:35:08] where we were two or three years ago on
public transportation. Are we where we
[1:35:11] need to be yet? Probably not. So, we can
do better. So, I think this is all just
[1:35:17] And I This is not really intended to be
critical at all of where what's happened
[1:35:22] in the past. It's meant to be more
visionary of where we can be in the
[1:35:25] future. Exactly. And I would do anything
It's just a general statement, too. I
[1:35:29] commend you
gentlemen for this
[1:35:34] this
vision plan. And I agree it's it's an
[1:35:38] excellent road map uh to work through
the
[1:35:42] the future.
>> Yeah, as far as public transportation,
[1:35:45] you know, your example was a great one,
Wiley. You know, this this
[1:35:50] young or middle-aged adult that's trying
to get a
[1:35:53] his diploma,
if we can identify that person
[1:35:58] and provide that transportation day or
evening, I think it's critical.
[1:36:03] Likewise, in the southern part of
county, if someone needs a medical
[1:36:07] attention, a doctor's appointment, and
they don't have a way to get there, you
[1:36:11] know, some sometimes we just assume
we've been blessed. We have a way to get
[1:36:16] there. Sometimes we forget the people
that weren't blessed or as fortunate as
[1:36:20] us. I would go out of my way to make
that happen.
[1:36:24] However,
no matter what service you provide,
[1:36:28] you can be taken advantage of if you're
not careful.
[1:36:32] And one of the items that
kind of
[1:36:36] I had a little bit of a uh uneasy
feeling was, you know, visitation.
[1:36:42] You know, do you do you stretch out your
transportation
[1:36:47] to go pick up someone down in the
southern part of county to visit someone
[1:36:51] else?
So, you always got to be constant
[1:36:54] constantly of of
of being taken advantage of.
[1:36:59] I will serve the people that need it.
But I'm always got an eye on
[1:37:06] it this is stretching a little bit. So,
Sure. But But speaking to it, I mean,
[1:37:10] both you and I, we kind of come from
education, so we very much understand
[1:37:16] the importance And and
and obviously education was another
[1:37:20] aspect that came out very very high in
this vision as far as being important to
[1:37:26] the future of Adams County. Yeah. And
this classroom serves Adams County. They
[1:37:31] average probably 10 to 15 students at a
time. They and they've got it's a
[1:37:38] revolving door cuz they're working to
graduate. So, because there's more
[1:37:43] waiting to come in. You bet. You bet.
But Thanks, Wiley.
[1:37:47] » much. Thanks, Wiley. Other other
thoughts from anybody?
[1:37:54] Kelly, I know this is something that
you've that you've watched. I know you
[1:37:58] weren't necessarily part of the steering
committee, but you we've talked a lot
[1:38:02] about where this is at, where it's
going, and how library functions. And I
[1:38:06] told you about my aha moment with the
Amish community and how uh in in the
[1:38:11] conversation right there in that
hallway, we talked about how important
[1:38:15] the library system is to the Amish
community. And that was another blind
[1:38:18] spot of mine. So,
this going through this process for me
[1:38:23] the last couple of years has really
opened my eyes to a lot of blind spots
[1:38:28] that I had of vision of Adams County
residents that didn't necessarily wasn't
[1:38:33] Steve Bailey's vision. And that's the
reason that I really felt it was
[1:38:36] important that we go down this path and
take the time and engage an organization
[1:38:41] like Rachel's organization to uh
to to find a vision that was something
[1:38:46] more than just one or two or a half a
dozen people's thoughts.
[1:38:51] Any thoughts, Kelly?
I haven't seen this I know. And I'll
[1:38:55] we're going to get Rachel, I know that
this is available online. I'm going to
[1:39:00] make sure that we get everybody the
opportunity to look at this online. Even
[1:39:03] though this is not this is still in
draft form until the commissioners feel
[1:39:07] comfortable adopting it, this is still a
draft, but I'm we're going to point you
[1:39:11] toward the
the website where you can actually look
[1:39:15] at this at what we're talking about
today.
[1:39:18] Okay. Absolutely.
a while ago Yeah.
[1:39:23] Sure.
Ra- Ra- Rachel, thoughts or where can we
[1:39:27] find this at? What is that? Yeah, I will
post up on the screen the project
[1:39:31] website so everybody can take it down.
Happy, you know, if I'll put my email on
[1:39:35] there as well if you have any questions,
but I'll put the project website up.
[1:39:40] What is that? Can you read it off,
Rachel? Some- it's pretty small here in
[1:39:44] the room and my eyes are old.
>> [laughter]
[1:39:50] » Just 1 second.
Sure.
[1:39:58] Will be on the county website there's a
place It is. There's a There's a There's
[1:40:01] a button on the county website to the
vision plan and if you if you if you
[1:40:05] click there, it'll take you to the
website that that Rachel's going to give
[1:40:10] us.
>> Okay. Okay.
[1:40:31] I think you're on mute, Rachel, if
you're talking to us. If you're not,
[1:40:33] that's
>> Oh, no. I'm sorry. I'm just going to
[1:40:35] unshare my screen this way and then pull
up your your vision plan and then Okay.
[1:40:40] » the website for everybody. Just 1
second.
[1:40:56] » [clears throat]
[1:41:10] » Yep.
What if we forget to leave that you guys
[1:41:14] signing those though? Okay. While While
Rachel's working on that, um
[1:41:19] Aaron Selkin was one of our steering
committee members from the beginning if
[1:41:22] I don't
We had We kind of added steering
[1:41:24] committee members and
as we went along, but I think Aaron was
[1:41:27] on along for the whole ride. Thoughts on
the process? How comfortable were you
[1:41:32] with it? What did you think?
Well, the whole reason why I wanted to
[1:41:35] stay involved with it was I just felt
like there was a disconnect between
[1:41:39] the cities and the county when it comes
to housing.
[1:41:43] And
I think that with this county sewer
[1:41:46] project, I think it's a great thing. It
cleans things up.
[1:41:49] My concern is leapfrogging on
residential.
[1:41:56] I think the city and the county need to
work better on buffer zones
[1:42:01] that that surround cities and theater
where the city actually wants to grow
[1:42:06] and the county work with them.
[1:42:09] But I think I think that as we talked
about the whole housing
[1:42:13] challenge as we talked about through the
vision plan, I think that better
[1:42:17] collaboration and cooperation between
the city and the county and kind of an
[1:42:22] expectation of where the natural and
most appropriate housing growth is,
[1:42:27] I just think we have to do better at
that.
[1:42:33] And if you tack on your concern, Aaron,
which is well taken,
[1:42:38] if you go
to from the middle count part of the
[1:42:41] county southward,
the housing situation is is also an
[1:42:46] issue, but a little bit different. Quite
a different challenge. And that's where
[1:42:50] I think instead of doing the setbacks,
and I've had this conversation with you.
[1:42:56] But with
[1:43:00] I I think they should have limited to 20
acres on on a subdivision in rural Adams
[1:43:04] County versus a setback.
What you're seeing is they're taking a
[1:43:10] 20-acre farm and now it's getting turned
into a subdivision.
[1:43:14] And you have more of an issue there than
what you do Well, we did it We did
[1:43:18] address that somewhat several years ago
when we put an ordinance on how much how
[1:43:24] many times you can split a parcel.
It slowed it up some. Some.
[1:43:28] Some.
Well, obviously we've got some work to
[1:43:30] do there, but those are those are things
that
[1:43:33] um that I think part of the vision is
that we get our arms around that. The
[1:43:39] actual execution of how to do that is
not in this book. So, we have to figure
[1:43:43] that out, but the vision is that we do
figure it out.
[1:43:48] I do know techniques right and it helps
It helps the city indicator. It helps
[1:43:52] the people that are
you know, different all all the
[1:43:56] different things that they're able to
have a road map themselves.
[1:43:59] What the county actually wants. Right.
Yeah. Right. I agree.
[1:44:03] And you know, we can we can assume we
know what
[1:44:07] the vision is for Adams County, but
until you begin to ask the residents
[1:44:11] what their vision is, I think it's all
just an assumption.
[1:44:17] Rachel? Yeah, I found it. It's
www.advancingadamscounty.com.
[1:44:23] More than happy to I'll send a a link to
the all three commissioners and if
[1:44:28] there's anywhere else you would like us
to disperse that, we're happy to have
[1:44:32] our communications department put in a
newspaper or, you know, make sure we get
[1:44:36] the word out that the draft is
available, but the draft is available on
[1:44:40] that website.
Advancingadamscounty.com.
[1:44:44] All one word. Yep.
www.advancingadamscounty.com.
[1:44:50] Yep. Yes, sir. Yep.
[1:44:53] If it's up for public consumption right
now, can we have copies at the library?
[1:45:00] Physical copies?
Um I guess I'd rather hold off on that
[1:45:04] until the the commissioners actually I
mean, you can print it off, obviously,
[1:45:08] but it's a it's still in draft form
rather than hand them to you today and I
[1:45:13] only have two. So, it's not like I have
a ton up here that I can hand out. Um
[1:45:19] Would you mind waiting until we actually
have an opportunity to adopt it as final
[1:45:23] final
>> If you're asking the public to that they
[1:45:26] can view it, I don't
I don't know what to say.
[1:45:32] Are you I mean, I
Um
[1:45:34] » Rachel did say that. Well, as soon as we
adopt it, there'll be more copies, won't
[1:45:38] there, Steve? Well, as soon as they
obviously we can't make we we don't
[1:45:40] intend to make hundreds and hundreds of
copies, but Kelly's only asking for a
[1:45:44] few. So, I I we should be able to get
>> Yeah, I mean, we could put a big
[1:45:47] watermark across it that says draft for
open for public comment to make
[1:45:51] everybody feel more comfortable, too. We
can send some hard copies that way.
[1:45:55] If you go to that website, the whole
plan that we've got in book form is on
[1:45:59] the website. Yeah. The entire thing.
Other thoughts, Mike? You were You were
[1:46:05] along for most of the ride. Micah, you
were along for most of the ride. Anybody
[1:46:09] else thoughts on where we're at?
[1:46:15] Micah?
I guess I would like a little bit more
[1:46:19] clarification when it comes to the
comprehensive land use plan
[1:46:23] and this vision plan now.
I [clears throat] mean, you guys have
[1:46:26] discussed both
plans interchangeably here today,
[1:46:31] but when an item comes before planning
commission,
[1:46:35] which document is going to be the
foundation document for them to make a
[1:46:39] decision? Is that still The The Their
legal document is the comprehensive land
[1:46:43] use plan.
>> That's That's the one that they use.
[1:46:45] » their legal That's their legal document.
Right. And we really didn't We really
[1:46:50] didn't address that. Um I think the
planning commission is is trying to
[1:46:54] review that comprehensive land use plan
uh
[1:46:58] over time, but we really didn't touch
that document with this work.
[1:47:03] I appreciate the clarification because
that was my assumption, but I I'm not
[1:47:07] sure that the public has ever heard it
put that way. So,
[1:47:10] thank you for that. And I guess I'm
encouraged to see that agriculture is a
[1:47:14] priority
in [clears throat] the vision plan on
[1:47:16] the public. That's very encouraging to
me. Okay.
[1:47:19] Um so, thank you guys for doing that.
Sure.
[1:47:24] You know, I think I think if I'm sitting
on the planning commission and I sat on
[1:47:27] the planning commission for years. I
don't today. Doug is our representative
[1:47:30] on planning commission. But if I'm
sitting in there and I have a a proposal
[1:47:34] that comes before me that speaks to
solar or wind or some of these other
[1:47:38] things that has a a potential of
disrupting that agricultural and rural
[1:47:45] community, I think you can go back to
this and say, I don't think that's what
[1:47:49] our what our residents are looking for.
Um
[1:47:55] I guess one other thing that I and I saw
that the plan was posted on the website.
[1:47:59] I briefly
paged through it this morning.
[1:48:03] I'm probably a little bit disappointed
that there isn't more emphasis put on
[1:48:07] manufacturing jobs and industrial jobs
and industrial growth
[1:48:11] » [clears throat]
>> in Adams County.
[1:48:12] » Sure.
We talk about housing
[1:48:15] shortages.
>> [clears throat]
[1:48:18] » But I would like those residents to work
in Adams County instead of commuting out
[1:48:21] of Adams County. Sure. Sure. I think
that's probably in in
[1:48:26] included in that whole economic
development piece.
[1:48:31] Probably not maybe fleshed out as much
as you would like to have seen it, but I
[1:48:34] would think that's probably a part of
that economic development piece of our
[1:48:38] of our vision.
Thanks.
[1:48:41] I think it'd be great, too, along with
manufacturing if we could get more tech
[1:48:45] jobs here.
[1:48:50] Anybody else? We don't want to We don't
want to belabor this too much.
[1:48:53] Obviously, this is In In guys, we
actually have a
[1:48:57] a proposed um
ordinance
[1:49:00] that uh
uh
[1:49:02] Clayton has looked at or Mark has looked
at, one or the other. Um but I I'd
[1:49:07] prefer not to consider that today until
you all have time to look at it.
[1:49:12] And that was the
ordinance It it it we in relation to the
[1:49:17] vision
>> It it's it's related to vision. You
[1:49:19] haven't seen the ordinance yet. But but
ultimately ultimately
[1:49:23] my desire is that we as commissioners
consider adopting this as our vision
[1:49:30] including adopting an ordinance that
states that this is our vision plan.
[1:49:35] » But obviously you're not prepared to do
that today and I don't know
[1:49:38] » put it on a timeline. In a couple of
weeks we can be addressing it. If if
[1:49:41] that's okay, we'll look at that in a
couple of weeks.
[1:49:45] Anybody else? Rachel, parting parting
thoughts here?
[1:49:51] All right, getting off mute there. No, I
just want to say it's like I said, it's
[1:49:55] been a great experience. You guys have a
wonderful community. We've really had a
[1:49:58] great time, you know, getting to know
each one of the communities and going to
[1:50:02] Swiss Days and Monroe and County Fair.
So it's it's been a great process and
[1:50:07] like I said, we're all open to comments
and tweaks and
[1:50:11] we understand that you know, it might
take a further reiteration and and
[1:50:16] certain parts. So happy to happy to hear
that and and work on it. So
[1:50:22] Very good.
Um if nothing else, we've got a couple
[1:50:27] more things on the agenda. Rachel,
you're free to to hang in there with us
[1:50:30] but
but I wouldn't mind you I I wouldn't I
[1:50:33] wouldn't wouldn't
I wouldn't uh Hold it against me or
[1:50:37] something. Hold it against you. Yeah,
I've got something else. Okay. All
[1:50:41] right, no problem. Great to meet
everybody today and everybody have a
[1:50:44] great Tuesday. Thank you.
Okay. The
[1:50:48] the ordinance 2026-6 that we signed, I
guess that was that's been had a slight
[1:50:53] change to it. So we need to resign this
document.
[1:50:55] » sent right after you signed it.
Um okay.
[1:51:01] Um great discussion.
Again, this is this is something that um
[1:51:07] that I've been working on and we've been
working on for a couple of years. So
[1:51:11] um glad to see it come to some kind of a
some kind of a
[1:51:16] not a close but at least a a a path
forward that that we can be in the
[1:51:21] share. So Thank you Steve for all the
time and effort you put into that.
[1:51:25] » It's been it's been really uh uh
really a great learning experience for
[1:51:30] me.
Um
[1:51:33] Okay, Justice Center update is next on
the agenda. I'm not sure we have a lot
[1:51:38] to share there today but um
I know we've got we continue to look at
[1:51:43] that option that we discussed a couple
of weeks ago. Uh
[1:51:48] potential of moving superior court into
the first floor of the historic
[1:51:52] courthouse.
Um
[1:51:54] We look then at we have four or five
departments then that would be looking
[1:51:58] for a new home
uh including the clerk and prosecutor
[1:52:02] who would be displaced out of the
courthouse.
[1:52:04] Um so we're looking at
uh
[1:52:07] right now we're working with the
elevator to give us some numbers and
[1:52:11] design concepts on uh uh
an annex that would be built across
[1:52:17] Third Street.
I know there's maybe a little bit of
[1:52:21] confusion as to where we're envisioning
that. At this point probably is going to
[1:52:25] go in the parking lot that we have there
now. So um so we would we would need to
[1:52:30] to find some new parking or the city
would help us find some new parking for
[1:52:33] that.
That's all that's all kind of in
[1:52:36] discussion right now and I don't know
that we have a lot to share on that.
[1:52:40] Yeah, I I know you've been working real
closely with department heads to to
[1:52:45] refine that.
>> I have. That's been
[1:52:47] » that. They they have been
that's also been a great collaborative
[1:52:51] effort.
The judges came to the table and said,
[1:52:54] "Hey, we can do with maybe less than
what we were initially thinking." And so
[1:52:58] we're having conversations with all of
our department heads with along that
[1:53:01] vein of I know this is what you asked
for but what do you really need and
[1:53:05] we're going to have those conversations
here over the next week or so and then
[1:53:09] come back with a design that's that's
hopefully
[1:53:12] meets all of our needs but yet fits into
the budget that we that council set for
[1:53:16] us.
[1:53:20] Okay.
Um Do we have a final issue we need or
[1:53:23] something we should bring up in our
meeting with you? You know, we don't
[1:53:26] need to. I gave them um
Yeah, we can we can talk about this. We
[1:53:30] really didn't sign that because we only
gave them a go ahead on part of that.
[1:53:34] Okay.
Um
[1:53:37] County Attorney, Mark Clayton, what have
you guys got for us today?
[1:53:42] Um I know next week we're going to have
a discussion about um
[1:53:46] fringe area jurisdiction. So I think
that will
[1:53:49] it really goes kind of hand in hand
>> Hand in hand with what we've been
[1:53:52] talking about.
>> these discussions. So Yeah.
[1:53:57] Another reminder maybe that next week's
meeting is on Wednesday rather than
[1:54:01] Tuesday because of the election. Right.
Just as a reminder. Okay, thanks Tony.
[1:54:06] Clayton, what have you got for us?
Uh so we did just have
[1:54:11] we suspended earlier. We had a public
hearing on what will be ordinance number
[1:54:15] 2026-4,
an ordinance regulating parking on
[1:54:18] county owned property.
So if there's no further discussion
[1:54:22] amongst you all as commissioners um
it would be available for you to move to
[1:54:27] adopt the same. [clears throat]
Motion to approve. Second.
[1:54:31] Motion passes.
And I will given that it has enforcement
[1:54:35] until make sure that our office gets
published meant to the auditor because
[1:54:40] it will need published specifically the
enforcement provisions will need
[1:54:44] published and then it'll be effective 10
days thereafter.
[1:54:48] Um and then
to shorten the meeting today, it's
[1:54:51] already gone pretty long.
I would just ask that it be put on the
[1:54:56] agenda for next week for me to present
the the petition for vacation of a
[1:55:01] public way in relation to the portion of
West 1100 South uh the roadway of Bridge
[1:55:08] near Red Gold. I have that petition
prepared. So I would just request Can
[1:55:13] you send Angie and myself an email
stating how you want that listed on the
[1:55:18] agenda and we'll make sure to get that
on. Yep, I'll do that right now.
[1:55:22] Anything else from you guys? Nope, thank
you. Okay. Hey, can I ask you a quick
[1:55:25] question?
And I know I could look it up but on the
[1:55:28] abatement agreements that you've done
out at
[1:55:34] West Union Town what's the final date on
that?
[1:55:37] » [clears throat]
>> The final date as in when they have
[1:55:40] cleaned up. Um all of them except one
individual that came to the table a
[1:55:44] little bit later. I believe that
individual has until October 15th. The
[1:55:48] remainder of them is July 15th. Okay.
But I know multiple of them as the
[1:55:52] abatement agreement reads, they need to
actually
[1:55:55] sign like a satisfaction
notice that they've satisfied or believe
[1:56:00] that they're in compliance. Both my
office and the sheriff's department is
[1:56:04] in possession of that form that becomes
signed. That will then trigger the
[1:56:07] sheriff's deputy in charge of that
enforcement to go out and double check
[1:56:11] and we'll start kind of dealing with
that if there's issues with whether or
[1:56:14] not they're compliant. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
[1:56:17] Shannon, what have you got for us this
morning?
[1:56:20] Nothing today but thank you. Okay.
Um
[1:56:24] Doug, Stan, what else have you got for
the good of the cause this morning?
[1:56:27] » I'm good.
Um we
[1:56:30] really just a couple minor things. Um
the
[1:56:35] Community Mental Health Centers has
appointed a new
[1:56:38] additional Adams County rep and that's
Ian Gilbert. So he'll be sitting on that
[1:56:42] board along with myself from Adams
County. It's great.
[1:56:46] Um you know, the other thing which is
[1:56:50] a wish in one hand and whatever in the
other but I've still got some interest
[1:56:55] in uh
looking at the
[1:56:58] old meadows. So
Good.
[1:57:01] So
if if that's all right, I'll continue to
[1:57:04] keep the keys and pursue that as the
interest is there. Obviously we don't
[1:57:09] have a plan for that facility yet. So if
you can come up with somebody who can
[1:57:12] put it together you send it as priority.
I had a meeting last week with Rob
[1:57:16] Purdy.
Good. Good deal.
[1:57:20] Good deal.
Um anything from the public?
[1:57:28] Move we adjourn.
Okay.
[1:57:31] We're adjourned.
Thanks everybody. Appreciate you coming.
[1:57:35] Appreciate your interest.
[2:00:04] » Mhm.