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>> okay, all right, call this

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hearing to order.

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I'm going to read a short

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statement.

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Welcome to the SEPTEMBER 2026

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meeting of the alachua county

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code enforcement special

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magistrate hearing.

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The purpose of this hearing is

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to hear allegeds code violations

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filed by various departments of

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alachua county, florida.

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The code enforcement special

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magistrate was established by

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florida statutes chapter 162 and

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alachua county ordinances

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chapter 24: to obtain compliance

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with various county ordinances

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and regulations.

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I have no authority to change

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the ordinances or any of the

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regulations we will be

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addressing today.

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That can only be done by the

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alachua county board of county

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commissioners: I can determine

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if a violation has occurred, set

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a date for full compliance, and

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levy a fine for noncompliance.

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My decisions can only be

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appealed to the courts and not

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the county commission.

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The basic procedure we'll

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following today is the secretary

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will call the case, the county

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staff will present its case, the

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respondent shall have the

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opportunity to present its

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defense to the case, I will make

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a decision at a future date and

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the respondent will be notified

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by mail of that decision.

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All persons testifying today

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will do so under oath or by

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swearing or affirming that they

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will tell the truth.

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Any evidence in the form of

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documents or photographs must be

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submitted to the secretary clerk

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for inclusion in the record.

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Please silence your phones so

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that they don't interrupt the

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proceeding.

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And please anybody who is

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planning on testifying today,

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staff and people who have will

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be responding please stand and

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raise prowr

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your right hand so

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you can be sworn in.

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So if you plan on testifying

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today, please stand and raise

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your right hand.

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[Swearing in]

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>> you can be seated.

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You can be seated.

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All right.

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So jean, would you please call

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the first case.

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>> case number [Off mic]

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>> speak into your microphone.

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>> case number 26-003318.

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Alachua county versus watts

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jonathan.

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>> and I understand this person

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supposed to be attending by

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zoom.

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Is jonathan watts on the zoom

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call?

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Is jonathan watts on the zoom

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call?

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>> yes, can you hear me?

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>> yes, is this jonathan watts?

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>> yes, sir, [Off

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>> did you hear the swearing

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in?

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>> yes, sir.

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>> okay.

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All right.

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So we're going to let the county

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proceed first, and then I'll let

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you speak to the matter.

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Go ahead, county.

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>> okay.

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>> morning.

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Michael williams, code officer

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with alachua county.

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In code enforcement case

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26-003318, the code

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administration division received

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a complaint from dan gargas the

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building official on 4/13/26

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regarding the property located

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at 2505 southeast 35th street,

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gainesville, florida, in alachua

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county.

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Identified by parcel number

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16205-004-001.

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The owner of the property is

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jonathan watts, code

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administration initiated an

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enforcement proceeding per dan

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gargas building official, due to

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the violation of the following

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sections of alachua county code

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of ordinances 4012140b

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improvement of property prior to

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issuance of a building permit.

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The respondent was provided a

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reasonable time to correct the

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violations.

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A noting of violation, noting of

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a hearing was, was initially

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cept to the respondent -- sent

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to the respondent on 5/26/26.

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It was subsequently noticed the

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notice of violation, notice of

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hearlging did contain an

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administrative error.

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As a result an amended notice of

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violation was send -- sent to

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the respondent on JULY 26th,

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2026, by certified mail with a

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compliance date of 8/6/26.

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I have good service of notice

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and statements of violation to

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respondent sent by certified

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mail or receipt of posting.

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Copies have been provided to the

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magistrate, and I request they

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be entered into evidence.

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I have had no contact with the

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respondents, the photographs

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being presented were taken by

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myself and code officer gerald

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sapp, and accurately reflect the

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violations and I ask they be

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admitted into evidence.

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>> they'll be admitted into

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evidence.

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>> what are you recommending?

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The county recommends that the

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respondent be found in violation

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of code sections 402.140b and

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come into compliance.

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Upon speaking to dan gargaathize

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building official last -- gargas

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the building official last

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evening, I did ask him with

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regard to the whole scope of the

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violations what would be a

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reasonable time frame for them

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to come into compliance.

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He kind of wanted them to

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request a compliance time frame,

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and the county would either

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confer with that or give another

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avenue, but as of right now,

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we'd like to hear, you know,

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what they would like to request

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in order to --

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>> okay and how about in terms

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of proposed penalties and --

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>> in the event that they do not

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come into compliance with the

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time frame given, the county's

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requesting a fine of $100 per

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day be imposed until compliance

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The county has incurred $280 in

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costs in bringing this case to

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hearing.

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>> chair: okay, anything else at

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this time?

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>> no, sir.

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MR. Watts, please state your

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name for the record and your

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address.

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>>> how are you doing?

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My name is jonathan watts.

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My address is 215 northeast --

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[Inaudible]

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>> and what can you tell us

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about what is a reasonable time

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frame to come into compliance.

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>> okay, because I've been

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calling him trying to get

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answers to, because I just want

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to make it right.

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-- I guess -- backyard.

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When I bought the house, it was

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already -- that piece was

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already on the house so all I

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did was just change the -- on it

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so everybody know it's not, I

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guess it's not on the initial

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blueprint.

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Well I didn't know that so that

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was like well you bought it,

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it's on you.

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Okay, that's fine but I just

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want to know what's the proper

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step I need to take in order

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just to make it right.

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I just want to make it right.

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>>> okay, so what the county has

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said they're willing to listen

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to you and say get an idea from

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what you time frame you need to

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bring it into compliance because

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what we would like do is not to

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have to have you come back for

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penalty.

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So can you give me a number of

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days or months that you think

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you need to bring it into

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compliance.

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>> yeah because I was -- I was

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going to talk to general

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contractor monday -- I'm on the

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monday.

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Supposed to be monday at the

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house and he kind of gave me

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numbers like -- I could get

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it -- but I know he said

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something about $100 a day.

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>> that would be $100 a day if

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you fail to come into compliance

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within the time frame I grant

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you.

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>> oh, okay, okay.

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>> so that's why I'm asking what

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would be a reasonable time frame

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in your opinion.

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>> okay, two months if that's

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possible?

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>> well, let me -- so 60 days.

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How does the county feel about

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60 days to come into

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compliance?

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>> I'd like to defer to the

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building official dan gargas as

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he obviously would be a better

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authority.

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>> okay, MR. Gargas, do you want

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to come up and speak, and I

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noticed you came in late so

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we're going to have to swear

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acin

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-- swear you in.

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>> [Swearing in]

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>> dan gargas, building

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official, alachua county.

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60 days should be an adequate

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amount of time for them to go

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ahead and apply for, obtain

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permits, and complete the work.

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Good.

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So MR. Watts, MR. Gargas has

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said he's in agreement with your

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60 days.

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And that's what it will be in my

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>> can I ask dan a question?

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Is it, is it thought that that

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back half I'm guessing on the --

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be kind of added so should you

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guys kind of want that to be

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done over -- because I've been

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trying to understand what do I

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need to do.

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What do I need to do, I just

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want to get it gone.

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>> well, I suggest that you go

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ahead and meet with the

292
00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,218
contractor on monday and you

293
00:14:47,218 --> 00:14:50,487
decide if you're going to keep

294
00:14:50,487 --> 00:14:50,655
that back portion addition or

295
00:14:50,655 --> 00:14:51,220
not.

296
00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:53,220
>> yes, sir.

297
00:14:53,958 --> 00:14:56,358
>> it would require engineering

298
00:14:59,664 --> 00:15:02,500
be submitted, and so you know,

299
00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:02,801
that, it MAY not be

300
00:15:02,801 --> 00:15:04,801
salvageable.

301
00:15:05,169 --> 00:15:06,370
if it's not deemed not to be

302
00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:09,370
salvageable, then you could just

303
00:15:13,444 --> 00:15:13,712
go ahead and remove it.

304
00:15:13,712 --> 00:15:15,680
>> okay.

305
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,113
>> are you comfortable with

306
00:15:16,113 --> 00:15:17,150
that, MR. Watts --

307
00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:17,281
>> that's perfect.

308
00:15:17,281 --> 00:15:18,249
>> okay.

309
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All right.

310
00:15:19,618 --> 00:15:21,119
Well that will close this case

311
00:15:21,119 --> 00:15:23,119
for now.

312
00:15:23,188 --> 00:15:24,889
Thank you, MR. Gargas.

313
00:15:24,889 --> 00:15:25,257
>> thank you.

314
00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:27,124
>> thank you.

315
00:15:27,124 --> 00:15:28,226
>> thank you for appearing.

316
00:15:28,226 --> 00:15:28,493
>> yes, sir.

317
00:15:28,493 --> 00:15:29,861
>> okay.

318
00:15:29,861 --> 00:15:32,129
You're done with this so you can

319
00:15:32,129 --> 00:15:35,129
sign off if you wanted.

320
00:15:36,535 --> 00:15:36,835
>> thanks a lot.

321
00:15:36,835 --> 00:15:37,870
>> mm-hmm.

322
00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:39,870
>> case number 2, please.

323
00:15:43,207 --> 00:15:45,207
>> case number 26-005733,

324
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,412
alachua county versus gables

325
00:15:47,412 --> 00:15:48,881
2017 holding llc.

326
00:15:48,881 --> 00:15:49,615
>> is there someone here

327
00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:51,550
representing -- yes, do you want

328
00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:55,750
to come over to that podium over

329
00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:03,796
there, please?

330
00:16:03,796 --> 00:16:05,798
A if you will state your name

331
00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:06,732
and address for the record,

332
00:16:06,732 --> 00:16:08,732
please.

333
00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:09,601
>> randolph amaya, fort

334
00:16:09,601 --> 00:16:11,601
lauderdale.

335
00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:12,770
>> I see it's a corporation.

336
00:16:12,770 --> 00:16:14,720
>> representative, manager.

337
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:14,405
>> you're a manager of the

338
00:16:14,405 --> 00:16:14,606
property?

339
00:16:14,606 --> 00:16:14,940
Okay.

340
00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:16,174
Thank you.

341
00:16:16,174 --> 00:16:17,900
Appreciate that I'm going to let

342
00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:18,477
the county present its case and

343
00:16:18,477 --> 00:16:20,880
then I will let you speak.

344
00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:21,213
>> yes, sir.

345
00:16:21,213 --> 00:16:22,181
>> okay.

346
00:16:22,181 --> 00:16:23,849
Excuse me, michael williams,

347
00:16:23,849 --> 00:16:24,820
code officer for alachua

348
00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:26,820
county.

349
00:16:29,154 --> 00:16:30,256
In code enforcement case

350
00:16:30,256 --> 00:16:30,923
26-005733, the code

351
00:16:30,923 --> 00:16:32,923
administration division received

352
00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:34,926
a complaint from a citizen on

353
00:16:34,926 --> 00:16:36,926
6/17/26 regarding the

354
00:16:37,463 --> 00:16:40,463
installation of an ac unit

355
00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,500
without permits identified by

356
00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:47,390
parcel 06819-020-093 here in

357
00:16:47,390 --> 00:16:48,841
gainesville, florida, in alachua

358
00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,841
county, florida.

359
00:16:51,877 --> 00:16:54,846
The owner of the property is

360
00:16:54,846 --> 00:16:56,846
gables 217 holdings llc.

361
00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:57,617
Code administration initiated an

362
00:16:57,617 --> 00:16:59,352
enforcement proceeding due to a

363
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:00,820
violation of the following

364
00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:03,622
sections of alachua county code

365
00:17:03,622 --> 00:17:05,224
of ordinances 402.140b,

366
00:17:05,224 --> 00:17:06,992
improvement of property prior to

367
00:17:06,992 --> 00:17:08,193
issuance of a building permit.

368
00:17:08,193 --> 00:17:10,196
The respondent was provided a

369
00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:11,530
reasonable time to correct the

370
00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:12,498
violations, a notice of

371
00:17:12,498 --> 00:17:14,267
violation, notice of hearing was

372
00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:16,469
cept to the respond -- sent to

373
00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:18,869
the respondent via certified

374
00:17:19,305 --> 00:17:22,305
mail on 6/6/26 with a compliance

375
00:17:25,511 --> 00:17:27,480
date of 8/7/26.

376
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,114
Copies have been provided to the

377
00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:30,250
magistrate, and y request that

378
00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:32,385
they be entered into evidence.

379
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:32,685
I have had no contact with the

380
00:17:32,685 --> 00:17:33,721
respondent.

381
00:17:33,721 --> 00:17:35,788
The photographs being presented

382
00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,423
were taken by myself and

383
00:17:37,423 --> 00:17:39,423
accurately reflect the

384
00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:41,270
violations, and I ask that they

385
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:43,196
be admitted into evidence.

386
00:17:43,196 --> 00:17:44,864
The county recommends that the

387
00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:47,600
respondent be found in violation

388
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,302
of code section 402.140b and

389
00:17:49,302 --> 00:17:50,769
come into compliance within 30

390
00:17:50,769 --> 00:17:52,171
days by complying with the

391
00:17:52,171 --> 00:17:53,973
corrective actions listed in the

392
00:17:53,973 --> 00:17:55,973
notice of violation.

393
00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:57,644
And if not then a fine in the

394
00:17:57,644 --> 00:17:59,279
amount of $100 per day be

395
00:17:59,279 --> 00:17:59,980
imposed until compliance is

396
00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:01,980
achieved.

397
00:18:02,382 --> 00:18:04,830
The county has incurred $140 in

398
00:18:04,830 --> 00:18:07,830
bringing this case to hearing.

399
00:18:08,188 --> 00:18:10,657
>> how much was the ----

400
00:18:10,657 --> 00:18:11,257
>> cost $140.

401
00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:11,525
>> $140.

402
00:18:11,525 --> 00:18:12,325
All right.

403
00:18:12,325 --> 00:18:12,559
This is your opportunity to

404
00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,227
speak.

405
00:18:14,227 --> 00:18:16,329
>> yes, good morning, sir.

406
00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:17,831
Yeah, the county's correct, the

407
00:18:17,831 --> 00:18:20,667
local manager of the property

408
00:18:20,667 --> 00:18:21,434
hired a contractor, and then

409
00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:24,370
they assured him they were going

410
00:18:24,370 --> 00:18:25,706
to do the permit and all that.

411
00:18:25,706 --> 00:18:27,107
>> so the I assume the local

412
00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:28,542
manager assumed the contractor

413
00:18:28,542 --> 00:18:29,676
would know.

414
00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:31,979
>> he said he doesn't have a

415
00:18:31,979 --> 00:18:33,947
licenseo we got another person,

416
00:18:33,947 --> 00:18:35,215
another company, so they're

417
00:18:35,215 --> 00:18:36,382
going to pull within a week they

418
00:18:36,382 --> 00:18:38,118
will have the permit.

419
00:18:38,118 --> 00:18:40,286
>> cay so the county's given

420
00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:41,622
you -- request you 30 days so.

421
00:18:41,622 --> 00:18:42,189
>> just 30 days enough, yeah,

422
00:18:42,189 --> 00:18:42,656
yes, sir.

423
00:18:42,656 --> 00:18:43,657
>> that's fine.

424
00:18:43,657 --> 00:18:44,858
I appreciate you being here at

425
00:18:44,858 --> 00:18:47,227
the hearing and as soon as

426
00:18:47,227 --> 00:18:48,962
that's done, please contact him

427
00:18:48,962 --> 00:18:51,365
and let him know because that

428
00:18:51,365 --> 00:18:52,432
can stop it right then, don't

429
00:18:52,432 --> 00:18:53,700
wait till the 30th day.

430
00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:54,200
>> yes, sir.

431
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,302
>> appreciate it.

432
00:18:55,302 --> 00:18:56,703
>> thank you very much.

433
00:18:56,703 --> 00:18:57,638
Thank you, sir.

434
00:18:57,638 --> 00:18:59,638
>> all right.

435
00:19:01,207 --> 00:19:03,207
Case number 3, please.

436
00:19:05,479 --> 00:19:07,479
>>> case number 26-005800,

437
00:19:11,885 --> 00:19:12,553
alachua county versus sparkman

438
00:19:12,553 --> 00:19:14,553
royce randall heirs.

439
00:19:15,656 --> 00:19:17,240
>> so someone here representing

440
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,192
royce randall sparkman heirs.

441
00:19:18,192 --> 00:19:18,492
Is someone here representing the

442
00:19:18,492 --> 00:19:20,492
respondent?

443
00:19:21,528 --> 00:19:21,762
Seeing none, county please

444
00:19:21,762 --> 00:19:22,429
proceed.

445
00:19:22,429 --> 00:19:24,429
>> good morning.

446
00:19:25,650 --> 00:19:26,734
My name is officer benjamin.

447
00:19:26,734 --> 00:19:29,734
The county received a complaint

448
00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:32,139
on this case on JUNE 18th,

449
00:19:32,139 --> 00:19:34,139
2026, regarding the property

450
00:19:34,642 --> 00:19:35,876
located at address 6920

451
00:19:35,876 --> 00:19:38,450
ortheast 69th way in

452
00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:38,279
gainesville, florida, alachua

453
00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,279
county.

454
00:19:43,985 --> 00:19:45,486
Parcel number 17605001031.

455
00:19:45,486 --> 00:19:47,210
Code administration initiated an

456
00:19:47,210 --> 00:19:49,560
enforcement proceeding and found

457
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,625
there to be a violation of the

458
00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,250
following sections of alachua

459
00:19:54,929 --> 00:19:56,329
county code of ordinances 74.29,

460
00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:58,329
prohibited hazardous lands,

461
00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:00,932
dangerous structures, 74.30,

462
00:20:01,135 --> 00:20:03,535
standards for repair, vacation,

463
00:20:04,605 --> 00:20:05,973
demo, and boarding.

464
00:20:05,973 --> 00:20:07,909
74.36, nuisance overgrowth.

465
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:09,444
The respondent was provided with

466
00:20:09,444 --> 00:20:10,745
a reasonable time to correct the

467
00:20:10,745 --> 00:20:11,512
violations, and notice of

468
00:20:11,512 --> 00:20:12,513
violations were sent to

469
00:20:12,513 --> 00:20:14,415
respondent that included

470
00:20:14,415 --> 00:20:15,783
corrective actions.

471
00:20:15,783 --> 00:20:17,952
Ongoing inspections conduced to

472
00:20:17,952 --> 00:20:19,554
date have determined that a

473
00:20:19,554 --> 00:20:21,789
respondent remains in violation

474
00:20:21,789 --> 00:20:22,560
of the alachua county code

475
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,458
sections.

476
00:20:23,458 --> 00:20:26,458
My last inspection of the

477
00:20:26,995 --> 00:20:27,195
property was on SEPTEMBER 2nd,

478
00:20:27,195 --> 00:20:28,863
2026.

479
00:20:28,863 --> 00:20:30,865
I have good service of notices

480
00:20:30,865 --> 00:20:32,667
and statements of violation to

481
00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:34,469
respondent sent by certified

482
00:20:34,469 --> 00:20:36,437
mail receipt or posting.

483
00:20:36,437 --> 00:20:37,405
Copies have been provided to the

484
00:20:37,405 --> 00:20:39,674
magistrate, and I request they

485
00:20:39,674 --> 00:20:41,442
be entered into evidence.

486
00:20:41,442 --> 00:20:43,610
There has been no contact with

487
00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:45,580
respondent regarding the

488
00:20:45,580 --> 00:20:47,215
violation, the photographs being

489
00:20:47,215 --> 00:20:48,717
presented were taken by myself

490
00:20:48,717 --> 00:20:49,985
and accurately reflect the

491
00:20:49,985 --> 00:20:51,319
violations, and can they be

492
00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:51,652
admit -- ask they be admitted

493
00:20:51,652 --> 00:20:52,653
into evidence.

494
00:20:52,653 --> 00:20:54,653
The county's recommendations

495
00:20:54,688 --> 00:20:55,957
that respondent be found in

496
00:20:55,957 --> 00:20:58,193
violation of the said sections

497
00:20:58,193 --> 00:20:59,861
of the code, ordant respondent

498
00:20:59,861 --> 00:21:01,696
come into compliance within 30

499
00:21:01,696 --> 00:21:02,998
days by complying with the

500
00:21:02,998 --> 00:21:04,599
corrective actions listed in the

501
00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,868
notice of violation and if not

502
00:21:06,868 --> 00:21:09,170
comply then pay a fine in the

503
00:21:09,170 --> 00:21:10,272
amount of $325 for each day the

504
00:21:10,272 --> 00:21:12,400
violations continue past the

505
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,440
date set for compliance.

506
00:21:14,776 --> 00:21:15,710
The county has incurred

507
00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:17,145
$350 costs in bringing this

508
00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:18,120
action to hearing.

509
00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:21,120
>> okay and what was the

510
00:21:21,182 --> 00:21:23,151
recommended fine?

511
00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,151
>>> $325 for each day.

512
00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:27,823
>> 325, yes, sir.

513
00:21:27,823 --> 00:21:28,423
>> all right, again, anybody

514
00:21:28,423 --> 00:21:29,624
here representing the

515
00:21:29,624 --> 00:21:31,624
respondent?

516
00:21:31,727 --> 00:21:33,995
Seeing none, thank you.

517
00:21:33,995 --> 00:21:34,529
Please proceed to the next

518
00:21:34,529 --> 00:21:36,529
case.

519
00:21:39,635 --> 00:21:41,635
>> case number 26-004957.

520
00:21:42,738 --> 00:21:44,539
Alachua county versus ripple

521
00:21:44,539 --> 00:21:46,539
missions inc.

522
00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:47,909
>> is somebody representing

523
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:49,144
ripple missions inc.

524
00:21:49,144 --> 00:21:50,645
If you want to come over to the

525
00:21:50,645 --> 00:21:52,645
podium there, please.

526
00:21:52,814 --> 00:21:54,182
You see we will have the county

527
00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:55,350
present first and then I will

528
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:56,218
have you speak.

529
00:21:56,218 --> 00:21:57,652
And if you could identify who

530
00:21:57,652 --> 00:21:59,652
you are, please.

531
00:22:00,389 --> 00:22:01,957
>> yeah I'm emmanuel distarot

532
00:22:01,957 --> 00:22:03,458
with old florida builders.

533
00:22:03,458 --> 00:22:04,426
>> what is your relationship?

534
00:22:04,426 --> 00:22:05,394
>> I am the contractor they

535
00:22:05,394 --> 00:22:06,695
hired to remedy this situation.

536
00:22:06,695 --> 00:22:07,328
>> all right, all right, so

537
00:22:07,328 --> 00:22:08,497
you're the contractor but not

538
00:22:08,497 --> 00:22:08,998
the owner.

539
00:22:08,998 --> 00:22:09,698
>> correct.

540
00:22:09,698 --> 00:22:10,199
>> -- we're going to let the

541
00:22:10,199 --> 00:22:10,732
county proceed.

542
00:22:10,732 --> 00:22:11,433
>> yes, sir.

543
00:22:11,433 --> 00:22:12,634
>> go ahead.

544
00:22:12,634 --> 00:22:14,102
>> michael williams, code

545
00:22:14,102 --> 00:22:16,502
officer with alachua county.

546
00:22:17,673 --> 00:22:18,773
In code enforcement case

547
00:22:18,773 --> 00:22:19,775
26-0004957, the code

548
00:22:19,775 --> 00:22:21,775
administration division received

549
00:22:22,277 --> 00:22:24,547
a complaint from dan gargas

550
00:22:24,547 --> 00:22:26,315
building official on 5/28/26

551
00:22:26,315 --> 00:22:28,715
regarding the property located

552
00:22:29,185 --> 00:22:30,953
at address 5505 southwest 63rd

553
00:22:30,953 --> 00:22:31,287
boulevard in gainesville,

554
00:22:31,287 --> 00:22:33,287
florida.

555
00:22:37,159 --> 00:22:38,627
Identified by parcel

556
00:22:38,627 --> 00:22:38,961
06902-001-000 in gainesville,

557
00:22:38,961 --> 00:22:40,496
florida.

558
00:22:40,496 --> 00:22:40,730
Here in alachua county,

559
00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:42,431
florida.

560
00:22:42,431 --> 00:22:44,333
The owner of the property is

561
00:22:44,333 --> 00:22:46,333
ripple missions inc.

562
00:22:46,369 --> 00:22:48,571
Code administration initiated an

563
00:22:48,571 --> 00:22:49,272
infortment proceeding per dan

564
00:22:49,272 --> 00:22:50,406
gargas building official due to

565
00:22:50,406 --> 00:22:51,507
the violation of the following

566
00:22:51,507 --> 00:22:54,507
code sections of alachua county

567
00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:55,611
code of ordinances.

568
00:22:55,611 --> 00:22:57,812
402.140b improvement of property

569
00:22:57,812 --> 00:22:58,214
prior to issuance of a building

570
00:22:58,214 --> 00:22:59,480
permit.

571
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,350
The respondent was provided a

572
00:23:01,350 --> 00:23:01,650
reasonable time to correct the

573
00:23:01,650 --> 00:23:03,152
violations.

574
00:23:03,152 --> 00:23:04,420
A notice of violation, notice of

575
00:23:04,420 --> 00:23:07,230
hearing was sent to the

576
00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:09,826
respondent via certified mail on

577
00:23:09,826 --> 00:23:10,590
7/9/26 with a compliance date of

578
00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,590
8/9/26.

579
00:23:12,362 --> 00:23:14,864
I have good service of notices

580
00:23:14,864 --> 00:23:17,100
and statement of violation to

581
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:18,901
respondent sent by certified

582
00:23:18,901 --> 00:23:20,770
mail receipt or posting.

583
00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:22,171
Copies have been provided to the

584
00:23:22,171 --> 00:23:23,840
magistrate, and I request they

585
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,240
be entered into evidence.

586
00:23:26,843 --> 00:23:27,143
I have had no contact -- well,

587
00:23:27,143 --> 00:23:29,143
correction.

588
00:23:31,114 --> 00:23:34,383
I have had had contact with the

589
00:23:34,383 --> 00:23:34,751
respondent via emails,ologist

590
00:23:34,751 --> 00:23:36,751
phone calls.

591
00:23:36,852 --> 00:23:39,852
The photographs of the actual

592
00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:41,570
violations were taken by the

593
00:23:41,570 --> 00:23:42,392
building division.

594
00:23:42,392 --> 00:23:43,960
There are a couple photographs

595
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,395
of postings of the notice of

596
00:23:45,395 --> 00:23:47,795
violation, notice of hearing.

597
00:23:48,231 --> 00:23:50,133
Those photographs were taken by

598
00:23:50,133 --> 00:23:51,701
myself, and all of the photos

599
00:23:51,701 --> 00:23:52,334
reflect the violations and I ask

600
00:23:52,334 --> 00:23:54,334
that

601
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:56,172
that they be admitted into

602
00:23:56,172 --> 00:23:58,172
evidence.

603
00:24:08,952 --> 00:24:09,286
>> put them up on the --

604
00:24:09,286 --> 00:24:10,353
>> yes.

605
00:24:10,353 --> 00:24:13,353
>> the actual posting of the

606
00:24:18,261 --> 00:24:18,662
noting of violation, notice of

607
00:24:18,662 --> 00:24:20,662
hearing.

608
00:24:20,731 --> 00:24:24,331
And these were the photos that

609
00:24:39,449 --> 00:24:42,449
were submitted by the building

610
00:24:47,357 --> 00:24:47,758
violations.

611
00:24:47,758 --> 00:24:49,758
>> there we go.

612
00:24:50,427 --> 00:24:52,362
>> thank you.

613
00:24:52,362 --> 00:24:55,962
>>> and it looks like those are

614
00:24:57,233 --> 00:24:59,737
pictures of I guess there are

615
00:24:59,737 --> 00:25:00,904
two structures that require some

616
00:25:00,904 --> 00:25:02,840
permitting as well.

617
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,941
And this is a copy of the stop

618
00:25:04,941 --> 00:25:08,541
work order that was posted also

619
00:25:13,449 --> 00:25:15,319
by the building division.

620
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,919
And that looks like a shower

621
00:25:23,227 --> 00:25:25,620
area I'm assuming that's not

622
00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:25,895
and so the county is

623
00:25:25,895 --> 00:25:28,295
recommending the respondent be

624
00:25:31,435 --> 00:25:34,205
found in violation of section

625
00:25:34,205 --> 00:25:36,407
402 I.140b so again with regard

626
00:25:36,407 --> 00:25:37,274
to this particular case upon

627
00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:38,809
speaking with the building

628
00:25:38,809 --> 00:25:40,478
official he would like to hear

629
00:25:40,478 --> 00:25:41,679
what they are requesting in

630
00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:42,780
terms of a time frame, a

631
00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:45,780
reasonable time frame in order

632
00:25:48,419 --> 00:25:50,221
to come into compliance.

633
00:25:50,221 --> 00:25:52,550
And so if they do not comply,

634
00:25:52,550 --> 00:25:53,691
then the county's requesting

635
00:25:53,691 --> 00:25:55,760
that $100 per day fine be

636
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,270
imposed until compliance is

637
00:25:56,270 --> 00:25:58,270
achieved.

638
00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:00,640
The county has incurred $210 in

639
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,633
costs in bringing this matter to

640
00:26:02,633 --> 00:26:02,900
hearing.

641
00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:04,569
>> okay.

642
00:26:04,569 --> 00:26:05,570
This is your opportunity to

643
00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:09,170
speak so they are asking --

644
00:26:11,309 --> 00:26:13,211
identify -- by your name.

645
00:26:13,211 --> 00:26:13,478
>> manuel distarot, old florida

646
00:26:13,478 --> 00:26:14,846
builders.

647
00:26:14,846 --> 00:26:15,947
They have asked me to obtain a

648
00:26:15,947 --> 00:26:17,214
building permit to have all

649
00:26:17,214 --> 00:26:18,416
these things that were completed

650
00:26:18,416 --> 00:26:19,183
there inspected, permitted, paid

651
00:26:19,183 --> 00:26:20,551
for.

652
00:26:20,551 --> 00:26:21,819
We've engained an architect.

653
00:26:21,819 --> 00:26:22,252
It's already been uploaded to

654
00:26:22,252 --> 00:26:23,121
the county.

655
00:26:23,121 --> 00:26:23,955
The permit has been applied and

656
00:26:23,955 --> 00:26:25,550
paid for.

657
00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:27,358
As soon as that permit is issued

658
00:26:27,358 --> 00:26:28,927
I will then, you know, finish

659
00:26:28,927 --> 00:26:30,161
what repairs I need to bring it

660
00:26:30,161 --> 00:26:31,729
into compliance and then call

661
00:26:31,729 --> 00:26:33,231
for inspections.

662
00:26:33,231 --> 00:26:34,320
>> okay so they are asking you

663
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,599
what you think is a reasonable

664
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:35,499
amount of time.

665
00:26:35,499 --> 00:26:36,100
>> 60 to 90 days.

666
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,168
It depends.

667
00:26:37,168 --> 00:26:39,304
The permit hasn't been issued

668
00:26:39,304 --> 00:26:41,272
yet so I won't do any work until

669
00:26:41,272 --> 00:26:43,408
that happens so they sent me a

670
00:26:43,408 --> 00:26:44,242
list of stuff I need to comply

671
00:26:44,242 --> 00:26:45,543
with in order to get that permit

672
00:26:45,543 --> 00:26:45,843
so once that's done I'll start

673
00:26:45,843 --> 00:26:47,110
work.

674
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:47,746
>> how does the county feel

675
00:26:47,746 --> 00:26:50,146
about that time frame.

676
00:26:51,650 --> 00:26:53,510
>> I would like to defer to dan

677
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:55,451
gargas, the building official

678
00:26:59,391 --> 00:27:00,691
once again, please.

679
00:27:00,691 --> 00:27:02,193
>> he said somewhere between 60

680
00:27:02,193 --> 00:27:04,495
and 90 days he said.

681
00:27:04,495 --> 00:27:04,695
>> I'd suggest they go with 90

682
00:27:04,695 --> 00:27:04,963
days.

683
00:27:04,963 --> 00:27:05,931
>> okay.

684
00:27:05,931 --> 00:27:07,931
All right.

685
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,800
>> thank you.

686
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,000
>> you're comfortable with

687
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,700
that?

688
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:10,769
>> yes, sir.

689
00:27:10,769 --> 00:27:12,370
>> okay, good, thank you,

690
00:27:12,370 --> 00:27:14,370
appreciate that.

691
00:27:14,672 --> 00:27:15,140
So that's what will be in my

692
00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:15,841
order, 90 days.

693
00:27:15,841 --> 00:27:18,241
Thank you for coming.

694
00:27:19,578 --> 00:27:21,578
Appreciate it.

695
00:27:23,414 --> 00:27:25,414
>> case 5 now.

696
00:27:28,687 --> 00:27:30,687
>> case number 26-006035,

697
00:27:36,562 --> 00:27:37,162
alachua county versus gordon

698
00:27:37,162 --> 00:27:38,497
devonta jamal.

699
00:27:38,497 --> 00:27:39,398
>> someone here representing the

700
00:27:39,398 --> 00:27:40,650
respondent?

701
00:27:40,650 --> 00:27:40,299
someone representing jamal

702
00:27:40,299 --> 00:27:42,670
gordon?

703
00:27:42,670 --> 00:27:42,467
Seeing none present, county,

704
00:27:42,467 --> 00:27:42,934
please proceed.

705
00:27:42,934 --> 00:27:44,903
>> good morning.

706
00:27:44,903 --> 00:27:46,205
My name is officer benjamin.

707
00:27:46,205 --> 00:27:48,440
The county received this

708
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,509
complaint on JUNE 26th, 2026,

709
00:27:50,509 --> 00:27:50,909
from building official dan

710
00:27:50,909 --> 00:27:52,909
gargas.

711
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,915
The property located at address

712
00:27:56,915 --> 00:27:58,915
6509 southeast 232nd terrace,

713
00:27:59,985 --> 00:28:00,352
hawthorne, florida, 32640 in

714
00:28:00,352 --> 00:28:02,352
alachua county.

715
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:07,726
And identified by parcel number

716
00:28:07,726 --> 00:28:08,861
19554018002.

717
00:28:08,861 --> 00:28:10,262
Code administration initiated an

718
00:28:10,262 --> 00:28:11,964
enforcement proceeding and found

719
00:28:11,964 --> 00:28:13,766
there to be a violation of the

720
00:28:13,766 --> 00:28:16,166
following sections of alachua

721
00:28:18,504 --> 00:28:19,205
county code of ordinances.

722
00:28:19,205 --> 00:28:21,605
402.140b improvement to property

723
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,374
prior to issuance affa building

724
00:28:22,374 --> 00:28:23,309
permit.

725
00:28:23,309 --> 00:28:25,478
The respondent was provided with

726
00:28:25,478 --> 00:28:27,580
a reasonable time to correct the

727
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:28,213
violations, and notice of

728
00:28:28,213 --> 00:28:29,810
violations was sent to

729
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:30,549
respondent that included

730
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:32,251
corrective actions.

731
00:28:32,251 --> 00:28:33,852
Ongoing inspections conducted to

732
00:28:33,852 --> 00:28:35,121
date have determined that

733
00:28:35,121 --> 00:28:37,423
respondent remains in violation

734
00:28:37,423 --> 00:28:37,690
of the said alachua county code

735
00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:38,624
sections.

736
00:28:38,624 --> 00:28:41,624
My last inspection of the

737
00:28:41,961 --> 00:28:43,228
property was on SEPTEMBER 2nd,

738
00:28:43,228 --> 00:28:45,197
2026, to state that the

739
00:28:45,197 --> 00:28:45,464
structure is still on the

740
00:28:45,464 --> 00:28:47,266
property.

741
00:28:47,266 --> 00:28:49,602
I have good service of notices

742
00:28:49,602 --> 00:28:50,669
and statement of violations to

743
00:28:50,669 --> 00:28:52,400
respondent sent by certified

744
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,500
mail, receipt, or posting.

745
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:54,640
Copies have been provided to

746
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,942
the -- magistrate and iiest they

747
00:28:55,942 --> 00:28:57,760
be innered to -- y request they

748
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:57,910
be entered into evidence.

749
00:28:57,910 --> 00:28:59,312
There has been no contact with

750
00:28:59,312 --> 00:29:01,800
the respondent regarding the

751
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,482
violations to myself, the

752
00:29:02,482 --> 00:29:04,882
photographs being presented were

753
00:29:05,384 --> 00:29:07,453
taken by myself and building

754
00:29:07,453 --> 00:29:07,920
official dan gargas and

755
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,554
accurately reflect the

756
00:29:08,554 --> 00:29:10,156
violations and ask they be

757
00:29:10,156 --> 00:29:12,156
admitted into evidence.

758
00:29:13,726 --> 00:29:13,926
The county's recommendation --

759
00:29:13,926 --> 00:29:15,695
oh.

760
00:29:15,695 --> 00:29:17,363
The county's recommendation is

761
00:29:17,363 --> 00:29:18,831
that the respondent be found in

762
00:29:18,831 --> 00:29:20,767
violation of the said sections

763
00:29:20,767 --> 00:29:22,234
of the code, order respondent to

764
00:29:22,234 --> 00:29:23,302
come into compliance within 30

765
00:29:23,302 --> 00:29:25,605
days by complying with the

766
00:29:25,605 --> 00:29:26,272
corrective actions listed in the

767
00:29:26,272 --> 00:29:28,272
notice of violation.

768
00:29:28,508 --> 00:29:30,143
And if not comply, then pay a

769
00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:31,845
fine in the amount of $75 for

770
00:29:31,845 --> 00:29:33,546
each day the violation continues

771
00:29:33,546 --> 00:29:36,546
past the date set for

772
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:38,840
compliance, the county has

773
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,484
incurred $140 costs in bringing

774
00:29:40,553 --> 00:29:40,820
thiaction to hearing.

775
00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:41,821
>> okay.

776
00:29:41,821 --> 00:29:44,821
Is someone here representing the

777
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:47,160
respondent?

778
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,960
MR. Gargas, do you have anything

779
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:50,330
to stay or standing for

780
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:52,330
support?

781
00:29:52,932 --> 00:29:53,233
>> I was here in case I was

782
00:29:53,233 --> 00:29:53,800
needed.

783
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,768
>> okay.

784
00:29:54,768 --> 00:29:56,768
All right.

785
00:29:57,237 --> 00:29:59,500
Thank you.

786
00:29:59,500 --> 00:29:59,739
>> you're welcome.

787
00:29:59,739 --> 00:30:03,109
>> I believe this one is a zoom

788
00:30:03,109 --> 00:30:05,109
case.

789
00:30:05,212 --> 00:30:05,745
So do you want to call the case,

790
00:30:05,745 --> 00:30:07,745
please.

791
00:30:09,215 --> 00:30:11,215
>> case 26-005081, alachua

792
00:30:14,554 --> 00:30:14,754
county versus nte investments

793
00:30:14,754 --> 00:30:15,822
llc.

794
00:30:15,822 --> 00:30:17,691
>> okay, is there someone

795
00:30:17,691 --> 00:30:19,492
representing nte investments llc

796
00:30:19,492 --> 00:30:21,661
on the zoom call?

797
00:30:21,661 --> 00:30:23,563
>> yes, there is.

798
00:30:23,563 --> 00:30:24,598
This is neil ilyawno.

799
00:30:24,598 --> 00:30:24,897
>> did you hear the swearing

800
00:30:24,897 --> 00:30:26,897
in?

801
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,940
>> I did.

802
00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:33,774
>> I'm going to let the county

803
00:30:33,774 --> 00:30:37,844
present its case and then I will

804
00:30:37,844 --> 00:30:41,444
let you speak to the matter.

805
00:30:45,152 --> 00:30:47,152
>> county, please proceed.

806
00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:01,733
>> snoon a thumb drive.

807
00:31:02,469 --> 00:31:03,437
>> josh?

808
00:31:03,437 --> 00:31:03,671
>> josh, help bring that up,

809
00:31:03,671 --> 00:31:05,671
please.

810
00:31:10,210 --> 00:31:11,312
Thank you.

811
00:31:11,312 --> 00:31:11,845
>> you rang.

812
00:31:11,845 --> 00:31:13,845
>> thank you.

813
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,149
>> thank you.

814
00:31:15,149 --> 00:31:17,149
There we go.

815
00:31:18,452 --> 00:31:20,187
Make this full screen.

816
00:31:20,187 --> 00:31:23,187
Just do left and right.

817
00:31:23,491 --> 00:31:25,726
>> all right, go ahead, please

818
00:31:25,726 --> 00:31:26,693
proceed.

819
00:31:26,693 --> 00:31:27,928
>>> okay.

820
00:31:27,928 --> 00:31:29,530
I am nathasha washington, a code

821
00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:31,565
officer for alachua county.

822
00:31:31,565 --> 00:31:34,565
I have been sworn in.

823
00:31:37,772 --> 00:31:40,172
In case 26-005081, the

824
00:31:42,777 --> 00:31:45,177
respondent nte investment llc.

825
00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:49,517
On JUNE 1st, 2026, the

826
00:31:49,517 --> 00:31:50,817
office of code enforcement

827
00:31:50,817 --> 00:31:51,618
received a complaint regarding

828
00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:55,218
demolishment of two homes on the

829
00:31:59,727 --> 00:32:00,862
property without a permit.

830
00:32:00,862 --> 00:32:02,862
Gpd was notified.

831
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,430
The property located at 7715

832
00:32:08,135 --> 00:32:09,303
west newberry road gainesville,

833
00:32:09,303 --> 00:32:11,303
florida, 32606.

834
00:32:13,408 --> 00:32:14,942
The property zoning is ap and is

835
00:32:14,942 --> 00:32:16,942
approximately 6.76 acres.

836
00:32:22,183 --> 00:32:23,718
The parcel number is

837
00:32:23,718 --> 00:32:25,718
066656-003-000.

838
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,388
The photographs being presented

839
00:32:27,388 --> 00:32:29,156
into evidence accurately

840
00:32:29,156 --> 00:32:31,525
represents the violation as

841
00:32:31,525 --> 00:32:33,270
seen, and was taken by myself

842
00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:34,929
and on the dates indicated on

843
00:32:34,929 --> 00:32:36,929
each photograph.

844
00:32:36,965 --> 00:32:39,965
The property was inspected by

845
00:32:41,702 --> 00:32:45,730
myself on JUNE 3rd, is when

846
00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:46,700
I found -- to be in

847
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:47,809
unincorporated alachua county

848
00:32:47,809 --> 00:32:50,209
our jurisdiction ozspecified --

849
00:32:50,412 --> 00:32:52,130
as specified in section 74.13 of

850
00:32:52,130 --> 00:32:53,614
alachua county code and in

851
00:32:53,614 --> 00:32:56,614
violation of the alachua county

852
00:32:59,653 --> 00:33:01,389
code ordinance section 402.140b

853
00:33:01,389 --> 00:33:04,389
improvement of property prior to

854
00:33:07,262 --> 00:33:10,165
issuance of a building permit

855
00:33:10,165 --> 00:33:13,165
and 74.20c construction junk and

856
00:33:14,102 --> 00:33:15,403
debris violation.

857
00:33:15,403 --> 00:33:17,403
And 75.205, disposal of

858
00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:20,105
construction and demolish of

859
00:33:21,175 --> 00:33:22,677
debris that has asbestos.

860
00:33:22,677 --> 00:33:23,345
The notice of the violation was

861
00:33:23,345 --> 00:33:25,881
posted on the property and

862
00:33:25,881 --> 00:33:28,350
mailed to the owner of record as

863
00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:30,352
recorded in the tax collector

864
00:33:30,352 --> 00:33:32,487
office, and any other additional

865
00:33:32,487 --> 00:33:32,988
respondent parties as the code

866
00:33:32,988 --> 00:33:34,655
allows.

867
00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:37,692
Legal service of the notice of

868
00:33:37,692 --> 00:33:40,920
violation was achieved on

869
00:33:40,329 --> 00:33:41,563
JUNE 29th by posted notice and

870
00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:43,732
the notice of violation the

871
00:33:43,732 --> 00:33:45,934
respondent was given till

872
00:33:45,934 --> 00:33:48,934
JULY 13th to correct the

873
00:33:50,805 --> 00:33:52,574
violation by completing a demo

874
00:33:52,574 --> 00:33:55,574
permit and proper disposal of

875
00:33:57,212 --> 00:33:57,946
the construction and debris that

876
00:33:57,946 --> 00:33:59,946
has asbestos.

877
00:33:59,982 --> 00:34:03,582
As a result of my last

878
00:34:03,852 --> 00:34:06,252
inspection, on SEPTEMBER 2nd,

879
00:34:07,122 --> 00:34:09,522
2026, staff recommends a finding

880
00:34:10,458 --> 00:34:14,580
of guilty for the nte investment

881
00:34:21,203 --> 00:34:24,203
llc for section 402.140b and

882
00:34:26,742 --> 00:34:28,742
74.20c, and 75.205.

883
00:34:28,878 --> 00:34:30,546
I ask as far as they be given 30

884
00:34:30,546 --> 00:34:32,448
days to comply as set forth in

885
00:34:32,448 --> 00:34:35,448
the corrective actions stated in

886
00:34:35,817 --> 00:34:36,840
their original notice of

887
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,840
violation.

888
00:34:40,222 --> 00:34:42,857
Or a fine of $200 per day until

889
00:34:42,857 --> 00:34:44,857
compliance is achieved.

890
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,496
Further that the county recover

891
00:34:47,496 --> 00:34:47,863
the prosecution costs of $350.

892
00:34:47,863 --> 00:34:49,863
>> okay.

893
00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:52,535
Anything else at this time?

894
00:34:52,535 --> 00:34:52,735
>> I would like to say as far

895
00:34:52,735 --> 00:34:53,436
as --

896
00:34:53,436 --> 00:34:53,636
>> have you had contact with the

897
00:34:53,636 --> 00:34:55,700
owner?

898
00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:58,410
>> I have had contact with the

899
00:34:58,410 --> 00:34:59,275
owner, and also epd has been

900
00:34:59,275 --> 00:35:01,677
contacted in reference to this

901
00:35:01,677 --> 00:35:03,312
as well so that they can

902
00:35:03,312 --> 00:35:04,980
properly know how to take care

903
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:05,448
of the asbestos that's on the

904
00:35:05,448 --> 00:35:05,715
property.

905
00:35:05,715 --> 00:35:06,582
>> okay.

906
00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:08,582
All right.

907
00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:09,986
All right so would you tell me

908
00:35:09,986 --> 00:35:12,388
who you are and your

909
00:35:12,388 --> 00:35:12,855
relationship to the company,

910
00:35:12,855 --> 00:35:14,855
please?

911
00:35:16,659 --> 00:35:19,590
>> sure, I'm neil iliano.

912
00:35:20,296 --> 00:35:20,763
I'm a, I am the manager of nte

913
00:35:20,763 --> 00:35:21,640
investments.

914
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,765
>> okay.

915
00:35:22,765 --> 00:35:24,867
>> which is an llc that only

916
00:35:24,867 --> 00:35:26,569
holds this property.

917
00:35:26,569 --> 00:35:28,504
>> okay and what's your address

918
00:35:28,504 --> 00:35:29,939
for context.

919
00:35:29,939 --> 00:35:31,939
>> 3914 southwest 95th drive,

920
00:35:32,442 --> 00:35:33,109
gainesville, florida, 32608.

921
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:34,844
>> okay, thank you.

922
00:35:34,844 --> 00:35:37,747
So what can you tell me?

923
00:35:37,747 --> 00:35:39,516
>> we have been working

924
00:35:39,516 --> 00:35:41,916
diligently with madison flint

925
00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:44,387
from the county environmental

926
00:35:44,387 --> 00:35:46,550
protection.

927
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:46,322
>> epd, environmental protection

928
00:35:46,322 --> 00:35:47,490
departmet.

929
00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:50,490
>> yep, and we've been working

930
00:35:50,693 --> 00:35:51,860
since JUNE to clean this up, and

931
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:53,396
obviously asbestos is not easy

932
00:35:53,396 --> 00:35:55,396
to clean up.

933
00:35:55,565 --> 00:35:57,133
>> I'm very familiar with it,

934
00:35:57,133 --> 00:35:57,400
yeah, unfortunately.

935
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,635
[Laughter]

936
00:35:58,635 --> 00:36:00,170
>> and so obviously, you know,

937
00:36:00,170 --> 00:36:02,137
obviously I had a little bit of

938
00:36:02,137 --> 00:36:03,673
a complaint with the week and a

939
00:36:03,673 --> 00:36:04,975
half or whatever I was provided

940
00:36:04,975 --> 00:36:06,776
to get it cleaned up.

941
00:36:06,776 --> 00:36:09,450
But regardless, we are working

942
00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:10,881
hard on it.

943
00:36:10,881 --> 00:36:12,349
Madison gave me a list of three

944
00:36:12,349 --> 00:36:12,715
approved vendors to clean it

945
00:36:12,715 --> 00:36:14,715
up.

946
00:36:15,352 --> 00:36:18,688
I called all of them and none of

947
00:36:18,688 --> 00:36:19,689
them, they either didn't

948
00:36:19,689 --> 00:36:21,240
economist or said they'd get to

949
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:22,292
it and never did.

950
00:36:22,292 --> 00:36:24,594
I waited about a month for them

951
00:36:24,594 --> 00:36:25,695
to get to it in fact one of them

952
00:36:25,695 --> 00:36:27,564
call meed back three times and

953
00:36:27,564 --> 00:36:27,831
then never did give me a

954
00:36:27,831 --> 00:36:29,733
proposal.

955
00:36:29,733 --> 00:36:33,333
So I worked with madison we're

956
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:33,904
now working with people from

957
00:36:33,904 --> 00:36:35,904
orlando.

958
00:36:36,406 --> 00:36:37,441
We have contracts to sample the

959
00:36:37,441 --> 00:36:39,841
entire property to ensure

960
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:41,211
there's no asbestos anywhere

961
00:36:41,211 --> 00:36:43,211
else.

962
00:36:44,810 --> 00:36:45,916
And I have put a deposit down

963
00:36:45,916 --> 00:36:48,184
with an asbestos removal company

964
00:36:48,184 --> 00:36:50,387
from orlando to get started

965
00:36:50,387 --> 00:36:51,755
hopefully in the next week or

966
00:36:51,755 --> 00:36:53,123
two removing the asbestos so

967
00:36:53,123 --> 00:36:54,657
that we can then clean up

968
00:36:54,657 --> 00:36:57,570
everything else after the

969
00:36:57,561 --> 00:36:59,596
asbestos is removed and then

970
00:36:59,596 --> 00:36:59,863
retest everything afterwards.

971
00:36:59,863 --> 00:37:01,465
>> okay.

972
00:37:01,465 --> 00:37:02,632
So how much time frame does your

973
00:37:02,632 --> 00:37:04,100
contractor think because I'm

974
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:04,901
very?Rar with this area.

975
00:37:04,901 --> 00:37:07,370
I -- familiar with this area.

976
00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:07,538
I teach in this area.

977
00:37:07,538 --> 00:37:09,539
What do you think is a

978
00:37:09,539 --> 00:37:11,375
reasonable time because we don't

979
00:37:11,375 --> 00:37:11,741
want to have you come back and

980
00:37:11,741 --> 00:37:13,277
have penalties.

981
00:37:13,277 --> 00:37:14,911
>> yes, I agree, the contractor

982
00:37:14,911 --> 00:37:17,114
thinks it can be done in 30

983
00:37:17,114 --> 00:37:19,490
days, but I don't trust that.

984
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:20,840
>> I, you know, weather we're

985
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,484
getting into hurricane season

986
00:37:22,987 --> 00:37:23,787
and stuff so yeah.

987
00:37:23,787 --> 00:37:24,888
>> I would prefer to have till

988
00:37:24,888 --> 00:37:25,856
the end of the year if at all

989
00:37:25,856 --> 00:37:26,323
possible just to complete

990
00:37:26,323 --> 00:37:28,159
everything.

991
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:29,493
>> so that's what we are in

992
00:37:29,493 --> 00:37:30,460
SEPTEMBER, you're talking.

993
00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:30,694
>> three and a half months, four

994
00:37:30,694 --> 00:37:31,795
months.

995
00:37:31,795 --> 00:37:32,496
>> how does the county feel

996
00:37:32,496 --> 00:37:34,640
about extra time?

997
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,699
Obviously from testimony hired a

998
00:37:36,699 --> 00:37:39,990
contractor, sounds like a

999
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:39,470
legitimate one to get the work

1000
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:40,937
done.

1001
00:37:40,937 --> 00:37:42,606
>> I can understand having

1002
00:37:42,606 --> 00:37:43,700
issues with the specialty as far

1003
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:43,708
as asbestos.

1004
00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:44,976
>> are you comfortable having it

1005
00:37:44,976 --> 00:37:46,477
gun by the end of the year or is

1006
00:37:46,477 --> 00:37:47,912
it too long.

1007
00:37:47,912 --> 00:37:48,112
>> can we go no further than 90

1008
00:37:48,112 --> 00:37:49,113
days.

1009
00:37:49,113 --> 00:37:51,513
>> are you comfortable with 90

1010
00:37:52,483 --> 00:37:52,984
days, the county's suggesting?

1011
00:37:52,984 --> 00:37:54,252
>> I guess so.

1012
00:37:54,252 --> 00:37:55,853
I mean, like I said.

1013
00:37:55,853 --> 00:37:56,253
>> that's essentially, that's

1014
00:37:56,253 --> 00:37:57,220
three months plus.

1015
00:37:57,220 --> 00:37:58,890
>> it's pretty close, and

1016
00:37:58,890 --> 00:38:01,225
nothing much happens at the end

1017
00:38:01,225 --> 00:38:02,226
of DECEMBER anyways so sure.

1018
00:38:02,226 --> 00:38:03,628
90 days is fine.

1019
00:38:03,628 --> 00:38:05,229
>> yeah, another thing as you've

1020
00:38:05,229 --> 00:38:07,265
heard me say before, you know,

1021
00:38:07,265 --> 00:38:10,100
if this gets done quickly, let

1022
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:12,336
them know know right away

1023
00:38:12,336 --> 00:38:13,336
because then there is no penalty

1024
00:38:13,336 --> 00:38:14,938
at that point once you're in

1025
00:38:14,938 --> 00:38:17,338
compliance, and the penalties

1026
00:38:18,176 --> 00:38:19,376
don't accrue unless you fail to

1027
00:38:19,376 --> 00:38:20,278
come into compliance within 90

1028
00:38:20,278 --> 00:38:22,379
days so stay in touch.

1029
00:38:22,379 --> 00:38:24,248
It sounds like you are with epd

1030
00:38:24,248 --> 00:38:24,582
and your contractor will I'm

1031
00:38:24,582 --> 00:38:26,582
sure as well.

1032
00:38:27,685 --> 00:38:28,386
So in my -- 90 days for you.

1033
00:38:28,386 --> 00:38:30,386
>> thank you.

1034
00:38:30,788 --> 00:38:32,323
Yeah, that contractor is ccing

1035
00:38:32,323 --> 00:38:33,124
the epd on everything they send

1036
00:38:33,124 --> 00:38:33,424
me, so.

1037
00:38:33,424 --> 00:38:33,825
>> great.

1038
00:38:33,825 --> 00:38:35,930
Thank you.

1039
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:35,326
Thank you for being on the

1040
00:38:35,326 --> 00:38:36,594
call.

1041
00:38:36,594 --> 00:38:39,594
And thank you for taking

1042
00:38:39,998 --> 00:38:41,650
proactively on the matter.

1043
00:38:41,650 --> 00:38:41,399
Andening else from the county on

1044
00:38:41,399 --> 00:38:42,600
this?

1045
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,236
Okay, thank you, you're welcome

1046
00:38:45,236 --> 00:38:46,871
to sign off of the zoom.

1047
00:38:46,871 --> 00:38:48,706
>> thank you.

1048
00:38:48,706 --> 00:38:50,706
>> case number 7, please.

1049
00:38:56,114 --> 00:38:58,514
>> case number 26-003460, mejia

1050
00:39:00,118 --> 00:39:02,320
and mejia, JR. Trustees.

1051
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,320
>> okay s there someone here

1052
00:39:05,823 --> 00:39:06,825
representing mejia and mejia,

1053
00:39:06,825 --> 00:39:07,826
JR. Trustees, is someone here

1054
00:39:07,826 --> 00:39:09,826
representing the respondent?

1055
00:39:11,763 --> 00:39:13,632
Seeing none, please proceed.

1056
00:39:13,632 --> 00:39:15,330
>> good morning, my name is

1057
00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:16,100
andrew coniglio, the senior

1058
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,235
forester and landscaping

1059
00:39:17,235 --> 00:39:19,635
inspector for alachua county.

1060
00:39:26,845 --> 00:39:29,514
In the code enforcement case

1061
00:39:29,514 --> 00:39:32,514
26-003460, the county received a

1062
00:39:32,584 --> 00:39:33,318
complaint on APRIL 16th, 2026,

1063
00:39:33,318 --> 00:39:35,718
regarding the property located

1064
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:38,820
at the following address.

1065
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,240
2104 southwest 70th terrace,

1066
00:39:41,659 --> 00:39:43,659
gainesville, florida, 32607 and

1067
00:39:50,301 --> 00:39:50,669
identified by parcel number

1068
00:39:50,669 --> 00:39:52,271
06678-022-018.

1069
00:39:52,271 --> 00:39:53,380
Code administration initiated an

1070
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:55,700
enforcement proceeding and found

1071
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:56,541
there to be a violation of the

1072
00:39:56,541 --> 00:39:58,941
following sections of the

1073
00:40:01,579 --> 00:40:03,348
alachua county code of

1074
00:40:03,348 --> 00:40:05,348
ordinances, 7429, the respondent

1075
00:40:05,417 --> 00:40:06,151
was provided a teebl

1076
00:40:06,151 --> 00:40:07,860
reasonable

1077
00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:10,860
time to correct the violations

1078
00:40:11,156 --> 00:40:12,190
a. Notice of violation was sent

1079
00:40:12,190 --> 00:40:14,590
to the respondent including

1080
00:40:14,590 --> 00:40:16,590
credibilityive actions.

1081
00:40:16,562 --> 00:40:17,295
Ongoing inspections to date --

1082
00:40:17,295 --> 00:40:18,831
remins in violation of the

1083
00:40:18,831 --> 00:40:19,598
alachua county code sections.

1084
00:40:19,598 --> 00:40:22,598
The last inspection of the

1085
00:40:23,402 --> 00:40:26,305
property that I did was on

1086
00:40:26,305 --> 00:40:28,305
AUGUST 14th, 2026.

1087
00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:31,477
Under the, it's my understanding

1088
00:40:31,477 --> 00:40:34,477
that senior planner with epd

1089
00:40:34,647 --> 00:40:34,947
inspected the property on

1090
00:40:34,947 --> 00:40:36,382
AUGUST 31st.

1091
00:40:36,382 --> 00:40:38,317
On AUGUST 31st, 2026, and

1092
00:40:38,317 --> 00:40:40,190
found that the one of the trees

1093
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:42,655
had been removed, but not both

1094
00:40:42,655 --> 00:40:43,956
trees that were listed in the

1095
00:40:43,956 --> 00:40:45,891
violation, so they are sort of

1096
00:40:45,891 --> 00:40:47,891
half in compliance.

1097
00:40:48,728 --> 00:40:49,795
The county has, oh I have good

1098
00:40:49,795 --> 00:40:51,364
service of notices and statement

1099
00:40:51,364 --> 00:40:53,399
of violations to respondent sent

1100
00:40:53,399 --> 00:40:55,100
by certified mail, receipt or

1101
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,402
posting copies have been provide

1102
00:40:56,402 --> 00:40:57,236
today mannel straight

1103
00:40:57,236 --> 00:40:58,237
--

1104
00:40:58,237 --> 00:40:59,505
provided to the magistrate and I

1105
00:40:59,505 --> 00:41:00,272
request they be innered

1106
00:41:00,272 --> 00:41:01,400
entered

1107
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,700
into evidence.

1108
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:03,442
The county has had contact with

1109
00:41:03,442 --> 00:41:03,776
the respondent regarding the

1110
00:41:03,776 --> 00:41:05,776
violations.

1111
00:41:06,646 --> 00:41:09,460
The photographs presented were

1112
00:41:09,549 --> 00:41:10,316
taken by kelley poirier and

1113
00:41:10,316 --> 00:41:11,551
accurately reflect the violation

1114
00:41:11,551 --> 00:41:11,917
and I ask they be admitted into

1115
00:41:11,917 --> 00:41:13,186
evidence.

1116
00:41:13,186 --> 00:41:13,886
The county recommends the

1117
00:41:13,886 --> 00:41:16,789
respondent be found in violation

1118
00:41:16,789 --> 00:41:18,391
of the said sections of the

1119
00:41:18,391 --> 00:41:19,292
code, order respondent to come

1120
00:41:19,292 --> 00:41:20,827
into compliance within 30 days

1121
00:41:20,827 --> 00:41:21,694
by complying with the corrective

1122
00:41:21,694 --> 00:41:23,396
actions listed in the notice of

1123
00:41:23,396 --> 00:41:24,964
violation, and if not, then pay

1124
00:41:24,964 --> 00:41:26,366
a fine in the amount of $25 for

1125
00:41:26,366 --> 00:41:27,500
each day the violations continue

1126
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,602
past the date set for

1127
00:41:29,602 --> 00:41:30,270
compliance, the county has

1128
00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:31,437
incurred 2

1129
00:41:31,437 --> 00:41:33,437
$210 in bringing this

1130
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:35,639
action to hearing.

1131
00:41:35,909 --> 00:41:36,209
>> anybody here representing the

1132
00:41:36,209 --> 00:41:38,209
respondent?

1133
00:41:38,778 --> 00:41:41,178
Seeing none, thank you.

1134
00:41:42,949 --> 00:41:45,949
Move onto the next case.

1135
00:41:47,721 --> 00:41:49,721
>> case number 26 -- 004150.

1136
00:41:51,257 --> 00:41:52,358
Alachua county versus swanson

1137
00:41:52,358 --> 00:41:53,393
alexander william.

1138
00:41:53,393 --> 00:41:57,593
>> do you want to come over and

1139
00:42:04,204 --> 00:42:05,238
stand at the podium, please.

1140
00:42:05,238 --> 00:42:08,238
>> would you please state your

1141
00:42:08,274 --> 00:42:08,975
name for the record.

1142
00:42:08,975 --> 00:42:10,975
>> alexander swanson.

1143
00:42:11,110 --> 00:42:11,778
>> you can pull the microphone

1144
00:42:11,778 --> 00:42:12,579
up.

1145
00:42:12,579 --> 00:42:13,813
>> alexander swanson.

1146
00:42:13,813 --> 00:42:15,282
>> you can pull the microphone

1147
00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:16,582
up so you don't have to stoop.

1148
00:42:16,582 --> 00:42:17,684
>> what's your address.

1149
00:42:17,684 --> 00:42:19,684
>> alexander swanson.

1150
00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:22,620
My address is 3621 southwest

1151
00:42:22,689 --> 00:42:22,956
18th street.

1152
00:42:22,956 --> 00:42:23,256
>> okay.

1153
00:42:23,256 --> 00:42:23,990
All right.

1154
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:26,893
I'm going to let the county

1155
00:42:26,893 --> 00:42:29,930
proceed and then I'll ask you to

1156
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:32,330
speak on the matter.

1157
00:42:33,567 --> 00:42:33,967
Andrew coniglio, senior

1158
00:42:33,967 --> 00:42:34,768
forester.

1159
00:42:34,768 --> 00:42:35,335
And landscape inspector for

1160
00:42:35,335 --> 00:42:37,335
alachua county.

1161
00:42:39,606 --> 00:42:43,430
The in the code enforcement case

1162
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:46,430
26-004150, the county received a

1163
00:42:46,460 --> 00:42:47,214
complaint on MAY 7th, twbt 26,

1164
00:42:47,214 --> 00:42:49,614
regarding the property located

1165
00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:51,685
at the following address, 3621

1166
00:42:51,685 --> 00:42:53,685
southwest 18th street

1167
00:42:54,321 --> 00:42:56,321
gainesville, florida, 32608.

1168
00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:03,494
And identified by the parcel

1169
00:43:04,965 --> 00:43:06,367
number 027 or 07273-00 lexer

1170
00:43:06,367 --> 00:43:08,135
0-000.

1171
00:43:08,135 --> 00:43:08,769
Code administration initiated an

1172
00:43:08,769 --> 00:43:10,300
enforcement proceeding and found

1173
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:11,704
there to be a violation of the

1174
00:43:11,704 --> 00:43:14,104
following sections of alachua

1175
00:43:17,211 --> 00:43:18,412
county code, 74.29 prohibited.

1176
00:43:18,412 --> 00:43:19,179
The 13-7dant was provided --

1177
00:43:19,179 --> 00:43:20,247
respondent wads provided with a

1178
00:43:20,247 --> 00:43:21,148
reasonable time to correct the

1179
00:43:21,148 --> 00:43:22,316
violations, a notice of

1180
00:43:22,316 --> 00:43:24,218
violation was cept to respondent

1181
00:43:24,218 --> 00:43:24,718
that included corrective

1182
00:43:24,718 --> 00:43:26,860
actions.

1183
00:43:26,860 --> 00:43:27,454
Ongoing inspections conducted to

1184
00:43:27,454 --> 00:43:29,823
date have determined that the

1185
00:43:29,823 --> 00:43:31,425
respondent remains in violation

1186
00:43:31,425 --> 00:43:31,692
of the said alachua county code

1187
00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:33,327
sections.

1188
00:43:33,327 --> 00:43:36,327
The last inspection of the

1189
00:43:36,597 --> 00:43:37,565
property was on AUGUST 14th,

1190
00:43:37,565 --> 00:43:39,266
2026, I have good service of

1191
00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:41,268
notes and statements of

1192
00:43:41,268 --> 00:43:42,736
violation to respondent sent by

1193
00:43:42,736 --> 00:43:43,137
certified mail, receipt or

1194
00:43:43,137 --> 00:43:43,971
posting.

1195
00:43:43,971 --> 00:43:44,872
Copies have been provided to the

1196
00:43:44,872 --> 00:43:46,507
magistrate and I request that

1197
00:43:46,507 --> 00:43:47,341
they be innered to evidence.

1198
00:43:47,341 --> 00:43:48,275
-- entered into evidence.

1199
00:43:48,275 --> 00:43:50,811
I have had contact with the

1200
00:43:50,811 --> 00:43:51,112
respondent regarding the

1201
00:43:51,112 --> 00:43:52,613
violations,.

1202
00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:53,547
The dpoatographs being presented

1203
00:43:53,547 --> 00:43:55,416
were -- photographs being

1204
00:43:55,416 --> 00:43:58,119
presented were taken by myself

1205
00:43:58,119 --> 00:43:59,530
and code officer quellly poirier

1206
00:43:59,530 --> 00:44:00,870
and accurately reflect the

1207
00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:02,190
violations and I ask they be

1208
00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:03,900
admitted into evidence.

1209
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:03,958
The county recommends the

1210
00:44:03,958 --> 00:44:05,927
respondent be found in violation

1211
00:44:05,927 --> 00:44:06,293
of the said sections of the

1212
00:44:06,293 --> 00:44:07,462
code.

1213
00:44:07,462 --> 00:44:08,729
Order the respondent to come

1214
00:44:08,729 --> 00:44:11,129
into compliance within 15 days

1215
00:44:11,299 --> 00:44:13,668
by complying with the corrective

1216
00:44:13,668 --> 00:44:14,969
actions listed in the nov and if

1217
00:44:14,969 --> 00:44:15,970
not then pay a fine in the

1218
00:44:15,970 --> 00:44:16,604
amount of $50 for each day the

1219
00:44:16,604 --> 00:44:18,572
violations continue past the

1220
00:44:18,572 --> 00:44:20,808
date set for compliance,.

1221
00:44:20,808 --> 00:44:22,343
The county has incurred $210 in

1222
00:44:22,343 --> 00:44:22,577
bringing this action to

1223
00:44:22,577 --> 00:44:23,645
hearing.

1224
00:44:23,645 --> 00:44:24,479
>> so what is actiontually

1225
00:44:24,479 --> 00:44:25,446
needed to be done here?

1226
00:44:25,446 --> 00:44:27,480
What's the issue?

1227
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,170
Dead tree or?

1228
00:44:29,170 --> 00:44:32,530
>> there are, the nov list of

1229
00:44:32,530 --> 00:44:34,550
five pine trees that are within

1230
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:36,591
the utility and the right-of-way

1231
00:44:36,591 --> 00:44:37,892
next to the road.

1232
00:44:37,892 --> 00:44:41,492
And they are dead trees, dead

1233
00:44:41,529 --> 00:44:44,464
pine trees, and so they need to

1234
00:44:44,464 --> 00:44:45,366
be at least brought down below

1235
00:44:45,366 --> 00:44:47,366
the utility lines.

1236
00:44:47,969 --> 00:44:48,636
>> they would have -- they don't

1237
00:44:48,636 --> 00:44:49,403
necessarily have to take the

1238
00:44:49,403 --> 00:44:50,371
whole tree out.

1239
00:44:50,371 --> 00:44:51,720
>> they don't have to take the

1240
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:52,507
tree out of the ground.

1241
00:44:52,507 --> 00:44:55,176
They just need to take it below

1242
00:44:55,176 --> 00:44:55,443
the lowest utility line.

1243
00:44:55,443 --> 00:44:56,144
>> okay.

1244
00:44:56,144 --> 00:44:58,179
MR. Swanson, your time to speak,

1245
00:44:58,179 --> 00:45:01,349
and what can you tell me.

1246
00:45:01,349 --> 00:45:03,584
>> okay, yes, judge, thank you.

1247
00:45:03,584 --> 00:45:05,553
Let's see hear.

1248
00:45:05,553 --> 00:45:08,156
So I heard MR. Coniglio state

1249
00:45:08,156 --> 00:45:09,691
that the trees are in violation

1250
00:45:09,691 --> 00:45:12,910
because they are dead.

1251
00:45:14,529 --> 00:45:15,497
because my, the notice of

1252
00:45:15,497 --> 00:45:16,164
violation I received states the

1253
00:45:16,164 --> 00:45:19,164
trees are in violation because

1254
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:20,735
of a pine beetle issue.

1255
00:45:20,735 --> 00:45:22,700
>> pine beetle usually causes

1256
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,700
the death of the tree.

1257
00:45:25,741 --> 00:45:28,944
>> right, but so, so so that

1258
00:45:28,944 --> 00:45:31,212
being the case, so we're

1259
00:45:31,212 --> 00:45:33,514
established you know that the

1260
00:45:33,514 --> 00:45:35,514
trees are dead.

1261
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:38,186
Now, I, I spoke with

1262
00:45:38,186 --> 00:45:38,986
MR. Coniglio on my property

1263
00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:41,957
there at the end of JULY and I

1264
00:45:41,957 --> 00:45:45,226
sent him a couple photos of new

1265
00:45:45,226 --> 00:45:46,895
green growth on all of these

1266
00:45:46,895 --> 00:45:48,895
pine trees.

1267
00:45:50,632 --> 00:45:51,400
So if the, I believe the

1268
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,901
in23r5bgz

1269
00:45:52,901 --> 00:45:54,236
infraction's erroneous

1270
00:45:54,236 --> 00:45:55,471
if we're claiming the trees are

1271
00:45:55,471 --> 00:45:58,471
dead because I supplied photos

1272
00:45:58,774 --> 00:46:00,209
of these trees with new green

1273
00:46:00,209 --> 00:46:03,209
growth and they continue to

1274
00:46:03,712 --> 00:46:03,879
develop new green growth.

1275
00:46:03,879 --> 00:46:05,481
So.

1276
00:46:05,481 --> 00:46:05,814
>> okay, let me ask

1277
00:46:05,814 --> 00:46:06,815
MR. Coniglio.

1278
00:46:06,815 --> 00:46:08,350
When you were there in

1279
00:46:08,350 --> 00:46:10,886
AUGUST 14th, did you observe

1280
00:46:10,886 --> 00:46:11,220
whether the trees were regrowing

1281
00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:13,220
or --

1282
00:46:13,555 --> 00:46:15,691
>> I did not observe that on my

1283
00:46:15,691 --> 00:46:17,226
initial visit with MR. Swanson

1284
00:46:17,226 --> 00:46:19,226
in JULY.

1285
00:46:20,262 --> 00:46:22,398
I will say as a expert in the

1286
00:46:22,398 --> 00:46:22,764
subject trees die from the top

1287
00:46:22,764 --> 00:46:24,764
down.

1288
00:46:25,901 --> 00:46:27,469
And it's not uncommon for small

1289
00:46:27,469 --> 00:46:29,204
amounts of growth to come out at

1290
00:46:29,204 --> 00:46:32,842
the, you know, base of the tree

1291
00:46:32,842 --> 00:46:34,477
or even lower down on the tree

1292
00:46:34,477 --> 00:46:38,513
as like a sort of lash flush of

1293
00:46:38,513 --> 00:46:40,150
life, but the trees are a hazard

1294
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:40,182
because they are dead from the

1295
00:46:40,182 --> 00:46:41,984
top.

1296
00:46:41,984 --> 00:46:43,886
Whole top of the tree is dead,

1297
00:46:43,886 --> 00:46:45,688
so.

1298
00:46:45,688 --> 00:46:46,421
>> somr. Swanson, would you

1299
00:46:46,421 --> 00:46:46,822
agree that the top of the tree

1300
00:46:46,822 --> 00:46:47,823
is dead.

1301
00:46:47,823 --> 00:46:48,724
>> you know, the top of the tree

1302
00:46:48,724 --> 00:46:51,124
is debatable to me.

1303
00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:52,895
The photos that I sent to

1304
00:46:52,895 --> 00:46:54,330
MR. Coniglio there the new green

1305
00:46:54,330 --> 00:46:56,165
growth are a lot of that growth

1306
00:46:56,165 --> 00:46:59,765
is actually at or above the

1307
00:46:59,836 --> 00:47:01,836
power line level.

1308
00:47:02,171 --> 00:47:03,806
So it's 30 to 40 feet up is

1309
00:47:03,806 --> 00:47:06,806
where this new growth is.

1310
00:47:09,779 --> 00:47:10,780
These are 100-feet tall pine

1311
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:11,848
trees.

1312
00:47:11,848 --> 00:47:14,216
So it's debatable to me that

1313
00:47:14,216 --> 00:47:16,619
these trees are dead at all.

1314
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:19,187
I would be prepared if given an

1315
00:47:19,187 --> 00:47:22,787
extension here of some time to

1316
00:47:23,392 --> 00:47:24,260
supply a certified arborist that

1317
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:25,395
would potentially varifee

1318
00:47:25,395 --> 00:47:27,395
verify

1319
00:47:28,765 --> 00:47:29,464
that these trees are living on

1320
00:47:29,464 --> 00:47:30,567
my behalf at least.

1321
00:47:30,567 --> 00:47:33,970
>> so what I'm going to propose

1322
00:47:33,970 --> 00:47:36,672
is that I give you 60 days that

1323
00:47:36,672 --> 00:47:38,141
you gives you plenty of time to

1324
00:47:38,141 --> 00:47:40,743
get an arborist if you so desire

1325
00:47:40,743 --> 00:47:43,246
and then get with MR. And see if

1326
00:47:43,246 --> 00:47:43,513
he agrees with the arborist

1327
00:47:43,513 --> 00:47:45,513
concludes.

1328
00:47:47,383 --> 00:47:51,583
>> I mean, I have had the trees

1329
00:47:53,122 --> 00:47:55,625
looked at by the state.

1330
00:47:55,625 --> 00:47:57,260
MR. -- anenthmologist with the

1331
00:47:57,260 --> 00:47:58,995
florida forest service has

1332
00:47:58,995 --> 00:47:59,796
inspected the trees from the

1333
00:47:59,796 --> 00:48:02,980
right-of-way, and they found

1334
00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:05,980
them to be consistent with

1335
00:48:07,337 --> 00:48:09,737
beetle infestation, very common

1336
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,400
beetles and he, he is

1337
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:14,277
corroborated that the trees are

1338
00:48:14,277 --> 00:48:16,112
dead.

1339
00:48:16,112 --> 00:48:17,247
I attempted to have them here

1340
00:48:17,247 --> 00:48:19,850
today to testify but he was

1341
00:48:19,850 --> 00:48:22,250
unable to make it.

1342
00:48:22,552 --> 00:48:23,787
I think 60 days is too long.

1343
00:48:23,787 --> 00:48:25,322
Certainly it can be done in a

1344
00:48:25,322 --> 00:48:27,357
shorter amount of time.

1345
00:48:27,357 --> 00:48:29,250
And these trees have been a

1346
00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:31,595
problem for several months now,

1347
00:48:31,595 --> 00:48:32,762
and they are actually people

1348
00:48:32,762 --> 00:48:35,699
here from the surrounding homes

1349
00:48:35,699 --> 00:48:35,899
that are very worried about the

1350
00:48:35,899 --> 00:48:36,933
trees.

1351
00:48:36,933 --> 00:48:37,801
the complainants and things that

1352
00:48:37,801 --> 00:48:40,700
are neighborhoods that are very

1353
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:41,204
worried about these trees and

1354
00:48:41,204 --> 00:48:43,640
they can testify to the fact

1355
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,800
that these trees have been a

1356
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,408
problem for several months.

1357
00:48:47,511 --> 00:48:50,746
>> I've got -- he is saying it's

1358
00:48:50,746 --> 00:48:52,348
coming back -- so at this point,

1359
00:48:52,348 --> 00:48:52,548
so I'm going to give him extra

1360
00:48:52,548 --> 00:48:53,684
time.

1361
00:48:53,684 --> 00:48:56,840
I won't give him 60.

1362
00:48:56,219 --> 00:48:57,200
I'll give him 45 days,

1363
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,389
MR. Swanson, okay and you need

1364
00:48:59,389 --> 00:49:00,958
to be in touch with the county

1365
00:49:00,958 --> 00:49:01,325
as soon as you get that arborist

1366
00:49:01,325 --> 00:49:03,325
report in.

1367
00:49:04,461 --> 00:49:06,960
Now if they find that it is dead

1368
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:06,697
or denied then you know the

1369
00:49:06,697 --> 00:49:08,980
order would still be that you

1370
00:49:08,980 --> 00:49:09,199
need to take them down from

1371
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,599
below the power line.

1372
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:15,672
You don't have to take the whole

1373
00:49:15,672 --> 00:49:16,400
tree down, okay?

1374
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:16,306
All right.

1375
00:49:16,306 --> 00:49:17,740
>> okay.

1376
00:49:17,740 --> 00:49:21,274
I don't know if this is the

1377
00:49:21,712 --> 00:49:23,514
appropriate place to address

1378
00:49:23,514 --> 00:49:27,114
this, but there is also some

1379
00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:28,852
question as to the height of the

1380
00:49:28,852 --> 00:49:29,320
trees that would need to be

1381
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,320
taken down.

1382
00:49:31,422 --> 00:49:33,189
There is evidence in other

1383
00:49:33,189 --> 00:49:36,260
neighbors where similar thing is

1384
00:49:36,260 --> 00:49:39,626
has happened and the trees are

1385
00:49:39,697 --> 00:49:42,633
cut to a level of 35 feet which

1386
00:49:42,633 --> 00:49:42,866
is the acceptable trimming

1387
00:49:42,866 --> 00:49:44,866
height.

1388
00:49:47,371 --> 00:49:49,706
And that is also in areas and

1389
00:49:49,706 --> 00:49:49,906
neighborhoods along power

1390
00:49:49,906 --> 00:49:51,742
lines.

1391
00:49:51,742 --> 00:49:52,977
They trim them to 35 feet.

1392
00:49:52,977 --> 00:49:54,779
>> well some of that's going to

1393
00:49:54,779 --> 00:49:57,470
be dependent upon the heighth of

1394
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:58,349
th power line so.

1395
00:49:58,349 --> 00:49:59,983
>> yeah, as utilities, as a

1396
00:49:59,983 --> 00:50:01,752
certified arborist and utility

1397
00:50:01,752 --> 00:50:03,386
specialist as I used to be a

1398
00:50:03,386 --> 00:50:05,957
utility forester and it was

1399
00:50:05,957 --> 00:50:07,692
routine practice to require

1400
00:50:07,692 --> 00:50:09,260
trees to be trimmed below,

1401
00:50:09,260 --> 00:50:11,329
safety trimmed beloy the lowest

1402
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:12,960
level of the power line so below

1403
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,498
the communication lines.

1404
00:50:13,498 --> 00:50:15,600
Which would be significantly

1405
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,968
shorter than 35 feet.

1406
00:50:16,968 --> 00:50:19,170
>> well, your arborist will be

1407
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:19,469
able to tell you that,

1408
00:50:19,469 --> 00:50:21,500
MR. Swanson.

1409
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:22,206
And he will be able to recommend

1410
00:50:22,206 --> 00:50:25,420
what the heighth is for trimming

1411
00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:26,749
if they need to be trimmed.

1412
00:50:26,749 --> 00:50:26,833
Okay?

1413
00:50:26,833 --> 00:50:26,918
>> great, thank you, judge.

1414
00:50:26,918 --> 00:50:29,918
>> all right, thank you for

1415
00:50:38,789 --> 00:50:40,789
being here.

1416
00:50:51,570 --> 00:50:52,370
>> notes here.

1417
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:53,972
Let's go ahead.

1418
00:50:53,972 --> 00:50:55,439
I believe we're now into the

1419
00:50:55,439 --> 00:50:57,439
penalty phase.

1420
00:50:57,742 --> 00:50:59,277
Let me read the statement.

1421
00:50:59,277 --> 00:51:00,312
Noncompliants hearings are

1422
00:51:00,312 --> 00:51:01,246
strictly -- penalty hearings are

1423
00:51:01,246 --> 00:51:02,314
strictly to evaluate if an order

1424
00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:03,715
that has been created by the

1425
00:51:03,715 --> 00:51:04,983
special magistrate has been

1426
00:51:04,983 --> 00:51:06,251
followed or not followed.

1427
00:51:06,251 --> 00:51:07,385
I will not rehear the case as

1428
00:51:07,385 --> 00:51:08,586
the special magistrate has no

1429
00:51:08,586 --> 00:51:10,222
authority to revisit its

1430
00:51:10,222 --> 00:51:12,230
previous actions.

1431
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:13,492
The policy for conducting a

1432
00:51:13,492 --> 00:51:14,960
noncompliance hearing and

1433
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,128
penalty phase is determine if

1434
00:51:16,128 --> 00:51:18,496
the respondent is in compliance

1435
00:51:18,496 --> 00:51:19,197
or not in compliants, give the

1436
00:51:19,197 --> 00:51:20,632
county and the respondent an

1437
00:51:20,632 --> 00:51:21,867
opportunity to speak on the

1438
00:51:21,867 --> 00:51:23,301
compliance or noncompliance, and

1439
00:51:23,301 --> 00:51:24,602
I will make a decision regarding

1440
00:51:24,602 --> 00:51:26,471
compliance or noncompliance and

1441
00:51:26,471 --> 00:51:27,772
if found in noncompliance

1442
00:51:27,772 --> 00:51:28,740
placement of the lien for the

1443
00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:30,740
amounts accrued.

1444
00:51:30,842 --> 00:51:31,943
So county, let's go ahead and

1445
00:51:31,943 --> 00:51:34,346
call up this case and I believe

1446
00:51:34,346 --> 00:51:34,546
these are a series of cases on

1447
00:51:34,546 --> 00:51:36,546
zoom.

1448
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,720
So is someone here representing

1449
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:42,721
sp moe apartments llc.

1450
00:51:42,721 --> 00:51:43,522
>> yes, good morning.

1451
00:51:43,522 --> 00:51:45,189
can you hear me?

1452
00:51:45,189 --> 00:51:47,893
>> yes, and were you online for

1453
00:51:47,893 --> 00:51:48,794
the swearing in?

1454
00:51:48,794 --> 00:51:49,610
>>> yes, sir.

1455
00:51:49,610 --> 00:51:50,162
>> okay.

1456
00:51:50,162 --> 00:51:51,463
And please state your name for

1457
00:51:51,463 --> 00:51:53,232
the record and your relationship

1458
00:51:53,232 --> 00:51:55,232
to the apartments.

1459
00:51:55,333 --> 00:51:56,935
>>> my name is femy kennedy.

1460
00:51:56,935 --> 00:51:58,270
I am the regional property

1461
00:51:58,270 --> 00:52:00,670
manager with windgate properties

1462
00:52:01,306 --> 00:52:02,474
who is the management company of

1463
00:52:02,474 --> 00:52:04,474
majestic oaks apartments.

1464
00:52:05,344 --> 00:52:05,678
>> okay and what's your

1465
00:52:05,678 --> 00:52:07,678
address?

1466
00:52:08,447 --> 00:52:10,849
>>> my address, my address is we

1467
00:52:10,849 --> 00:52:13,249
have an atlanta address, 100

1468
00:52:13,585 --> 00:52:14,353
wells avenue, well actually,

1469
00:52:14,353 --> 00:52:15,955
massachusetts address is my

1470
00:52:15,955 --> 00:52:18,355
corporate address so 100 wells

1471
00:52:18,357 --> 00:52:18,623
avenue, newton, massachusetts.

1472
00:52:18,623 --> 00:52:19,158
>> okay.

1473
00:52:19,158 --> 00:52:21,158
All right.

1474
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,662
So we have a series of cases, we

1475
00:52:23,662 --> 00:52:25,564
can either do them individually

1476
00:52:25,564 --> 00:52:28,000
one by one or we can call them

1477
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,168
all and then deal with them as a

1478
00:52:29,168 --> 00:52:31,568
collective set of cases.

1479
00:52:32,637 --> 00:52:33,539
What would you prefer?

1480
00:52:33,539 --> 00:52:35,939
>> however MS. Benjamin would

1481
00:52:36,107 --> 00:52:37,420
like to proceed.

1482
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:38,978
I'm at her disposal.

1483
00:52:38,978 --> 00:52:39,979
>> so I think we have seven

1484
00:52:39,979 --> 00:52:40,746
cases total if I'm right.

1485
00:52:40,746 --> 00:52:42,948
>> I would really appreciate if

1486
00:52:42,948 --> 00:52:43,916
we could just combine them.

1487
00:52:43,916 --> 00:52:45,551
I could just read the owner and

1488
00:52:45,551 --> 00:52:47,887
then the case numbers.

1489
00:52:47,887 --> 00:52:49,550
>> let gina call them in and

1490
00:52:49,550 --> 00:52:50,256
then we will deal with them

1491
00:52:50,256 --> 00:52:50,522
correctively.

1492
00:52:50,522 --> 00:52:51,891
>> okay.

1493
00:52:51,891 --> 00:52:53,891
>> perfect.

1494
00:52:56,362 --> 00:52:58,362
>> case number 26-002581.

1495
00:53:00,166 --> 00:53:02,680
Alachua county versus sp mo

1496
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,680
apartments llc.

1497
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,390
Case number 26-002769 alachua

1498
00:53:10,643 --> 00:53:10,876
county versus sp mo apartments

1499
00:53:10,876 --> 00:53:11,611
llc.

1500
00:53:11,611 --> 00:53:14,180
>> I think you can save time you

1501
00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:17,780
can just do the case numbers.

1502
00:53:17,984 --> 00:53:19,984
>> case 26-002974.

1503
00:53:23,523 --> 00:53:25,523
Case number 26-002830.

1504
00:53:29,729 --> 00:53:32,129
And case number 26-002970.

1505
00:53:37,570 --> 00:53:39,970
And case number 26-002972.

1506
00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:47,447
Case number 26-002781.

1507
00:53:47,447 --> 00:53:47,914
>> chair: okay.

1508
00:53:47,914 --> 00:53:49,249
>> good morning.

1509
00:53:49,249 --> 00:53:51,249
I'm officer benjamin.

1510
00:53:51,284 --> 00:53:51,985
I am a certified property

1511
00:53:51,985 --> 00:53:53,720
maintenance housing inspector

1512
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:55,720
for alachua county.

1513
00:53:55,855 --> 00:53:58,524
In this particlar case, I got

1514
00:53:58,524 --> 00:54:01,628
called out by one tenant about

1515
00:54:01,628 --> 00:54:01,962
some maintenance issues in her

1516
00:54:01,962 --> 00:54:03,962
unit.

1517
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:07,734
And once I did that one,

1518
00:54:07,734 --> 00:54:08,735
inspection, there were six other

1519
00:54:08,735 --> 00:54:09,903
complaints placed through

1520
00:54:09,903 --> 00:54:11,371
alachua county from the tenants

1521
00:54:11,371 --> 00:54:13,139
at majestic oaks.

1522
00:54:13,139 --> 00:54:16,739
I will state that MR. Kennedy

1523
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:20,113
has done his very best to

1524
00:54:20,113 --> 00:54:22,513
alleviate these violations and

1525
00:54:24,718 --> 00:54:25,318
they are now in compliance as of

1526
00:54:25,318 --> 00:54:27,318
SEPTEMBER 28th, 2026.

1527
00:54:29,622 --> 00:54:31,892
Today the county is asking for

1528
00:54:31,892 --> 00:54:34,661
s-p mo apartments llc to pay the

1529
00:54:34,661 --> 00:54:37,661
prosecution costs for each case,

1530
00:54:38,631 --> 00:54:41,501
one time fine for each case, and

1531
00:54:41,501 --> 00:54:43,437
to apply the lien for all the

1532
00:54:43,437 --> 00:54:46,437
total accruing fines that are

1533
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,740
now closed as of

1534
00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:49,740
SEPTEMBER 28th, 2026.

1535
00:54:49,977 --> 00:54:51,745
There are no longer running

1536
00:54:51,745 --> 00:54:53,946
fines, so whatever that final

1537
00:54:53,946 --> 00:54:54,147
number is what they owe as of

1538
00:54:54,147 --> 00:54:55,916
today.

1539
00:54:55,916 --> 00:54:59,786
I will state that MR. Kennedy is

1540
00:54:59,786 --> 00:55:01,880
in the process of getting new

1541
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,880
maintenance team.

1542
00:55:03,957 --> 00:55:06,593
It has not been successful as of

1543
00:55:06,593 --> 00:55:07,895
late due to the history of

1544
00:55:07,895 --> 00:55:08,862
nugestic oaks over the past but

1545
00:55:08,862 --> 00:55:13,620
he is doing everything he can to

1546
00:55:16,690 --> 00:55:17,137
get maintenance out there.

1547
00:55:17,137 --> 00:55:17,805
Right now they have temporary

1548
00:55:17,805 --> 00:55:19,673
maintenance workers there that

1549
00:55:19,673 --> 00:55:21,942
is very good about completing

1550
00:55:21,942 --> 00:55:23,410
all open work orders so I will

1551
00:55:23,410 --> 00:55:24,945
give MR. Kennedy the floor now.

1552
00:55:24,945 --> 00:55:26,613
>> okay so I will just make it

1553
00:55:26,613 --> 00:55:26,914
clear, so they are now in

1554
00:55:26,914 --> 00:55:28,914
compliance.

1555
00:55:29,216 --> 00:55:29,516
>> yes, sir, all seven as of

1556
00:55:29,516 --> 00:55:30,717
dales.

1557
00:55:30,717 --> 00:55:31,452
>> so there is daily fine

1558
00:55:31,452 --> 00:55:33,320
running anymore.

1559
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,422
>> no more.

1560
00:55:34,422 --> 00:55:35,189
>> all we have is accumulated

1561
00:55:35,189 --> 00:55:36,624
fines at this point?

1562
00:55:36,624 --> 00:55:36,890
>> yes, sir.

1563
00:55:36,890 --> 00:55:38,890
>> okay.

1564
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,463
And does the total accumulative

1565
00:55:42,463 --> 00:55:42,730
fine include the one-time fine.

1566
00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:43,630
>> yes.

1567
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:44,231
>> yes, it does.

1568
00:55:44,231 --> 00:55:44,498
>> okay.

1569
00:55:44,498 --> 00:55:45,232
Thank you.

1570
00:55:45,232 --> 00:55:47,340
Appreciate that.

1571
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:49,300
All right.

1572
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:49,537
You've heard the county's

1573
00:55:49,537 --> 00:55:51,537
request.

1574
00:55:57,780 --> 00:55:58,212
They've said you're doing

1575
00:55:58,212 --> 00:55:59,460
everything you can to bring it

1576
00:55:59,460 --> 00:55:59,813
into compliance.

1577
00:55:59,813 --> 00:56:01,381
You are now in compliance.

1578
00:56:01,381 --> 00:56:02,416
The question for you is the

1579
00:56:02,416 --> 00:56:04,816
outstanding accrued fines on

1580
00:56:05,319 --> 00:56:06,354
each property.

1581
00:56:06,354 --> 00:56:07,688
And the way the county process

1582
00:56:07,688 --> 00:56:09,723
works is I can authorize the

1583
00:56:09,723 --> 00:56:11,159
county to find a lien for those

1584
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:13,261
fines against the properties.

1585
00:56:13,261 --> 00:56:15,663
You have the opportunity then to

1586
00:56:15,663 --> 00:56:17,831
come back in and seek a

1587
00:56:17,831 --> 00:56:20,735
reduction if you so desire on

1588
00:56:20,735 --> 00:56:21,769
those fines.

1589
00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:25,969
And so at this point what can

1590
00:56:26,374 --> 00:56:28,374
you tell me?

1591
00:56:28,509 --> 00:56:32,130
MS. Benjamin she laid it out

1592
00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:32,814
pretty correctly for me there.

1593
00:56:32,814 --> 00:56:35,214
Windgate management took over

1594
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,484
the property in MARCH.

1595
00:56:39,754 --> 00:56:41,856
And we initially had these cases

1596
00:56:41,856 --> 00:56:44,592
got openedden by a current --

1597
00:56:44,592 --> 00:56:45,593
opened up by a current resident

1598
00:56:45,593 --> 00:56:46,694
and on the first inspection

1599
00:56:46,694 --> 00:56:48,363
there, MS. Benjamin did not have

1600
00:56:48,363 --> 00:56:49,564
a great experience with that

1601
00:56:49,564 --> 00:56:52,100
manager so long story short I

1602
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:54,769
have replaced the site manager

1603
00:56:54,769 --> 00:56:56,771
three times since then.

1604
00:56:56,771 --> 00:56:59,473
And we have also attempted to

1605
00:56:59,473 --> 00:57:01,743
hire seven different maintenance

1606
00:57:01,743 --> 00:57:03,278
supervisors that have all backed

1607
00:57:03,278 --> 00:57:04,879
out within three days before

1608
00:57:04,879 --> 00:57:06,214
their hire date.

1609
00:57:06,214 --> 00:57:08,483
So MS. Benjamin's correct we

1610
00:57:08,483 --> 00:57:10,619
have been trying diligently.

1611
00:57:10,619 --> 00:57:10,852
We have put in place temporary

1612
00:57:10,852 --> 00:57:12,852
workers.

1613
00:57:13,755 --> 00:57:15,490
We have called in contractors.

1614
00:57:15,490 --> 00:57:17,892
The whole nine yards to try and

1615
00:57:17,892 --> 00:57:19,361
rectify these problems.

1616
00:57:19,361 --> 00:57:20,796
Once it get to my plate.

1617
00:57:20,796 --> 00:57:22,464
Once it got to my plate we were

1618
00:57:22,464 --> 00:57:23,498
already at the magistrate court

1619
00:57:23,498 --> 00:57:24,699
initially because I didn't even

1620
00:57:24,699 --> 00:57:27,302
know about them because that

1621
00:57:27,302 --> 00:57:29,237
particular manager at the time

1622
00:57:29,237 --> 00:57:29,938
didn't disclose this information

1623
00:57:29,938 --> 00:57:31,539
to anybody.

1624
00:57:31,539 --> 00:57:35,100
So that being said, once the

1625
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,611
baton got passed onto me, I've

1626
00:57:36,611 --> 00:57:38,480
always had great relationships

1627
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,147
with code enforcement on all my

1628
00:57:40,147 --> 00:57:41,416
properties throughout the state,

1629
00:57:41,416 --> 00:57:42,951
and I know exactly how we got to

1630
00:57:42,951 --> 00:57:44,152
get things done.

1631
00:57:44,152 --> 00:57:46,552
I appreciate MS. Benjamin's

1632
00:57:46,622 --> 00:57:48,290
patience with us because it was

1633
00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:50,920
a little unnerving because it

1634
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,828
was so difficult for us to get

1635
00:57:52,828 --> 00:57:54,863
the job done with the cars

1636
00:57:54,863 --> 00:57:55,830
that -- cards that we were dealt

1637
00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:56,799
and the personnel that we had

1638
00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:57,733
even though we were trying to be

1639
00:57:57,733 --> 00:57:58,000
in compliance as much as

1640
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,000
possible.

1641
00:58:00,435 --> 00:58:02,204
So really my, my approach here

1642
00:58:02,204 --> 00:58:05,240
is to try and ask for leniency.

1643
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:06,809
I will be requesting some

1644
00:58:06,809 --> 00:58:07,977
hardships where I can provide

1645
00:58:07,977 --> 00:58:09,244
invoices and documentation to

1646
00:58:09,244 --> 00:58:11,580
kind of just show what we've

1647
00:58:11,580 --> 00:58:14,116
been trying to do to rectify the

1648
00:58:14,116 --> 00:58:14,316
problems since we took over in

1649
00:58:14,316 --> 00:58:16,316
MARCH.

1650
00:58:16,885 --> 00:58:17,586
And it has been extremely%

1651
00:58:17,586 --> 00:58:17,786
challenging on the personnel

1652
00:58:17,786 --> 00:58:19,540
side.

1653
00:58:19,540 --> 00:58:19,321
That's really been the main

1654
00:58:19,321 --> 00:58:21,321
issue.

1655
00:58:21,991 --> 00:58:22,191
We haven't been neglecting the

1656
00:58:22,191 --> 00:58:24,191
issue.

1657
00:58:25,940 --> 00:58:25,327
It's just been personnel

1658
00:58:25,327 --> 00:58:27,327
issues.

1659
00:58:28,130 --> 00:58:28,397
And that's been our biggest

1660
00:58:28,397 --> 00:58:29,565
challenge.

1661
00:58:29,565 --> 00:58:32,401
So I guess my approach like I

1662
00:58:32,401 --> 00:58:34,360
said before is to, I'm asking

1663
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,738
for leniency on the $258,000 in

1664
00:58:35,738 --> 00:58:37,673
fines because that's kind of

1665
00:58:37,673 --> 00:58:39,775
steep for us, you know we just

1666
00:58:39,775 --> 00:58:41,177
took over the property in MARCH,

1667
00:58:41,177 --> 00:58:42,978
so to start off with a quarter

1668
00:58:42,978 --> 00:58:44,547
million dollars in fines is

1669
00:58:44,547 --> 00:58:45,882
pretty hefty.

1670
00:58:45,882 --> 00:58:46,114
>> now you're the management

1671
00:58:46,114 --> 00:58:47,516
company.

1672
00:58:47,516 --> 00:58:47,984
Is that correct?

1673
00:58:47,984 --> 00:58:48,851
>> that's correct.

1674
00:58:48,851 --> 00:58:50,286
>> you're not the actual owner

1675
00:58:50,286 --> 00:58:51,487
of the property.

1676
00:58:51,487 --> 00:58:53,487
>> no, that's correct.

1677
00:58:54,924 --> 00:58:56,825
>> okay, so yeah, so the process

1678
00:58:56,825 --> 00:58:58,261
is that once the prosecution

1679
00:58:58,261 --> 00:59:00,261
costs are paid,.

1680
00:59:00,696 --> 00:59:01,363
>> yes, sir.

1681
00:59:01,363 --> 00:59:02,765
>> one-time fine well I'm

1682
00:59:02,765 --> 00:59:04,600
talking about being able to come

1683
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,468
in for reduction.

1684
00:59:06,468 --> 00:59:07,170
So then you can place, and at

1685
00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:09,705
the end of this hearing there

1686
00:59:09,705 --> 00:59:11,708
are a couple reduction requests

1687
00:59:11,708 --> 00:59:11,941
if you choose to stay online and

1688
00:59:11,941 --> 00:59:13,941
listen.

1689
00:59:14,644 --> 00:59:15,878
So you would come in with a

1690
00:59:15,878 --> 00:59:17,780
request, and you would be placed

1691
00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:18,113
on the agenda at a future

1692
00:59:18,113 --> 00:59:20,113
meeting.

1693
00:59:20,216 --> 00:59:20,783
And then it would be your job to

1694
00:59:20,783 --> 00:59:21,784
explain why I

1695
00:59:21,784 --> 00:59:22,885
I should -- and I

1696
00:59:22,885 --> 00:59:24,953
have the authority to reduce the

1697
00:59:24,953 --> 00:59:25,488
fine given the right

1698
00:59:25,488 --> 00:59:25,721
circumstances.

1699
00:59:25,721 --> 00:59:26,550
So.

1700
00:59:26,550 --> 00:59:28,550
>> yes, sir.

1701
00:59:28,291 --> 00:59:30,392
>> that's my goal, yep, yep, so

1702
00:59:30,392 --> 00:59:33,960
we're on the same panel, that's

1703
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:33,296
nigh -- same page that's my

1704
00:59:33,296 --> 00:59:34,931
goal.

1705
00:59:34,931 --> 00:59:35,899
I do appreciate MS. Benjamin

1706
00:59:35,899 --> 00:59:38,201
your words that you said thank

1707
00:59:38,201 --> 00:59:39,135
you for acknowledging the fact

1708
00:59:39,135 --> 00:59:40,269
that I really did try on this

1709
00:59:40,269 --> 00:59:42,380
and we want to move forward with

1710
00:59:42,380 --> 00:59:42,805
you know it's going to be a long

1711
00:59:42,805 --> 00:59:43,406
relationship with code

1712
00:59:43,406 --> 00:59:44,407
enforcement because we don't

1713
00:59:44,407 --> 00:59:45,975
plan on going anywhere in the

1714
00:59:45,975 --> 00:59:46,876
city of gainesville, so we just

1715
00:59:46,876 --> 00:59:48,845
look forward to being able to

1716
00:59:48,845 --> 00:59:50,880
get over this and get some

1717
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,149
hardships, get some relief from

1718
00:59:53,149 --> 00:59:53,416
this process.

1719
00:59:53,416 --> 00:59:55,251
>> okay.

1720
00:59:55,251 --> 00:59:57,651
Anything else for this?

1721
00:59:57,987 --> 00:59:58,288
>> no, sir, and you're welcome,

1722
00:59:58,288 --> 00:59:58,989
MR. Kennedy.

1723
00:59:58,989 --> 00:59:59,322
>> thank you very much,

1724
00:59:59,322 --> 01:00:01,322
appreciate it.

1725
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:02,292
>> thank you for being on the

1726
01:00:02,292 --> 01:00:04,292
line.

1727
01:00:04,661 --> 01:00:06,960
And you can step off or you can

1728
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,197
listen we got one more case of

1729
01:00:07,197 --> 01:00:08,665
penalty and then we have got our

1730
01:00:08,665 --> 01:00:10,665
reduction hearing.

1731
01:00:12,602 --> 01:00:13,904
>> thank you.

1732
01:00:13,904 --> 01:00:18,104
>> so do you want to call the

1733
01:00:23,980 --> 01:00:25,515
case number, I believe it's

1734
01:00:25,515 --> 01:00:27,515
816.

1735
01:00:31,788 --> 01:00:33,788
>> case number 25-009910,

1736
01:00:34,324 --> 01:00:36,426
alachua county versus thomas

1737
01:00:36,426 --> 01:00:36,626
jason m. I believe he's to be on

1738
01:00:36,626 --> 01:00:38,362
zoom.

1739
01:00:38,362 --> 01:00:41,362
I herve receive adconfirm --

1740
01:00:41,832 --> 01:00:43,867
never receive adconned a

1741
01:00:43,867 --> 01:00:44,902
confirmation -- I never received

1742
01:00:44,902 --> 01:00:47,337
a confirmation that he would

1743
01:00:47,337 --> 01:00:48,805
appear through zoom so I'm not

1744
01:00:48,805 --> 01:00:49,773
100% positive he is.

1745
01:00:49,773 --> 01:00:49,973
>> MR. Thomas, are you on the

1746
01:00:49,973 --> 01:00:51,241
line?

1747
01:00:51,241 --> 01:00:53,243
>> yes, sir, can you hear me.

1748
01:00:53,243 --> 01:00:53,443
>> yes, sir, I can, so you're

1749
01:00:53,443 --> 01:00:54,678
here.

1750
01:00:54,678 --> 01:00:55,812
So I'm going to let the county

1751
01:00:55,812 --> 01:00:57,948
proceed first and then I will

1752
01:00:57,948 --> 01:00:59,948
let you respond.

1753
01:01:00,317 --> 01:01:00,884
>> good morning, I'm officer

1754
01:01:00,884 --> 01:01:02,884
benjamin.

1755
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,220
The case came before you first

1756
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:08,220
on JUNE 4th, 2026.

1757
01:01:08,392 --> 01:01:11,128
It was then moved to the JULY

1758
01:01:11,128 --> 01:01:13,330
hearing pending the information

1759
01:01:13,330 --> 01:01:14,431
MR. Thomas received for the

1760
01:01:14,431 --> 01:01:15,199
septic tank concern for the

1761
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:17,199
property.

1762
01:01:17,701 --> 01:01:20,337
So since JULY, he has been well

1763
01:01:20,337 --> 01:01:21,739
advised of every step to take to

1764
01:01:21,739 --> 01:01:24,275
alleviate the violations on his

1765
01:01:24,275 --> 01:01:25,943
property by myself, holly banner

1766
01:01:25,943 --> 01:01:28,943
and also he's been in

1767
01:01:29,246 --> 01:01:29,880
communication with the health

1768
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,880
department.

1769
01:01:33,183 --> 01:01:36,183
As of yesterday, my current

1770
01:01:36,253 --> 01:01:38,880
inspection, he still has all the

1771
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,880
structures on the property, and

1772
01:01:41,292 --> 01:01:44,292
has not initiated any procedures

1773
01:01:45,395 --> 01:01:45,763
to get the septic tank issue

1774
01:01:45,763 --> 01:01:47,763
solved.

1775
01:01:47,832 --> 01:01:52,320
So the county is asking for the

1776
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,604
lien to be placed due to being

1777
01:01:53,604 --> 01:01:54,639
guilty.

1778
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:55,472
>> noncompliance, okay.

1779
01:01:55,472 --> 01:01:55,906
>> noncompliance, yes.

1780
01:01:55,906 --> 01:01:57,906
>> okay.

1781
01:01:59,243 --> 01:01:59,944
All right, MR. Thomas, what can

1782
01:01:59,944 --> 01:02:01,379
you tell me.

1783
01:02:01,379 --> 01:02:02,480
>> yes, sir, since the last --

1784
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,748
can you hear me?

1785
01:02:03,748 --> 01:02:04,415
>> yes, I can, we can hear you.

1786
01:02:04,415 --> 01:02:05,550
>> okay.

1787
01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:07,852
Since the last time we were

1788
01:02:07,852 --> 01:02:10,870
there, nothing has changed.

1789
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:11,923
I explained to everyone that I

1790
01:02:11,923 --> 01:02:14,580
had went through a divorce, and

1791
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:15,927
I lost $1 million.

1792
01:02:15,927 --> 01:02:17,962
I've been living in hotels, I've

1793
01:02:17,962 --> 01:02:18,930
been traveling and working, I

1794
01:02:18,930 --> 01:02:21,930
haven't even been to the

1795
01:02:23,835 --> 01:02:25,200
property in over 4 1/2 months.

1796
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,371
I have contacted two different

1797
01:02:26,371 --> 01:02:27,972
mobile home places.

1798
01:02:27,972 --> 01:02:29,972
I emailed holly.

1799
01:02:31,576 --> 01:02:32,176
I don't know if I cc'd

1800
01:02:32,176 --> 01:02:34,576
MS. Benjamin or not.

1801
01:02:35,146 --> 01:02:38,449
but I did talk to them and I

1802
01:02:38,449 --> 01:02:40,585
found two, two mobile homes that

1803
01:02:40,585 --> 01:02:43,585
can go on the site.

1804
01:02:44,422 --> 01:02:46,224
But I have had no correspondence

1805
01:02:46,224 --> 01:02:47,592
with the health department.

1806
01:02:47,592 --> 01:02:49,427
And no, they have not called me

1807
01:02:49,427 --> 01:02:52,300
back, and no, they have not sent

1808
01:02:52,300 --> 01:02:54,699
me anything other than the

1809
01:02:54,699 --> 01:02:55,833
initial email that holly stirred

1810
01:02:55,833 --> 01:02:57,234
the pot a little bit and got

1811
01:02:57,234 --> 01:02:58,770
them to send me something.

1812
01:02:58,770 --> 01:03:00,639
But there was nothing definitive

1813
01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:04,239
in what I had to do.

1814
01:03:04,809 --> 01:03:06,878
So I called a third party septic

1815
01:03:06,878 --> 01:03:08,679
tank company, another company

1816
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:10,810
out of ocala and said, hey, what

1817
01:03:10,810 --> 01:03:11,216
do I need to do.

1818
01:03:11,216 --> 01:03:14,686
Said well you have a neighbor

1819
01:03:14,686 --> 01:03:14,986
right here that has a giant

1820
01:03:14,986 --> 01:03:16,986
septic tank.

1821
01:03:17,222 --> 01:03:18,523
He's not using part of that,

1822
01:03:18,523 --> 01:03:19,825
maybe if we ask the health

1823
01:03:19,825 --> 01:03:21,860
department if we can get

1824
01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:23,361
somebody out here, you could tie

1825
01:03:23,361 --> 01:03:24,596
into his since your property is

1826
01:03:24,596 --> 01:03:25,831
only a limited use.

1827
01:03:25,831 --> 01:03:27,365
You're only here three or four

1828
01:03:27,365 --> 01:03:29,100
weekends a year.

1829
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,937
And I said well, I don't know

1830
01:03:32,937 --> 01:03:35,474
that I've got to get a mobile

1831
01:03:35,474 --> 01:03:36,541
home on it to be in compliance.

1832
01:03:36,541 --> 01:03:38,176
I said but I don't have the

1833
01:03:38,176 --> 01:03:40,812
money for that right now.

1834
01:03:40,812 --> 01:03:42,581
And he said well, he said there

1835
01:03:42,581 --> 01:03:44,249
is we can help you once you get

1836
01:03:44,249 --> 01:03:45,651
the property -- you know I've

1837
01:03:45,651 --> 01:03:46,518
got to have the house there

1838
01:03:46,518 --> 01:03:48,186
before they can tell me what

1839
01:03:48,186 --> 01:03:50,489
size or what they need to do on

1840
01:03:50,489 --> 01:03:52,757
the health, on the septic tank.

1841
01:03:52,757 --> 01:03:53,792
But I have had no

1842
01:03:53,792 --> 01:03:54,693
correspondence, your honor, with

1843
01:03:54,693 --> 01:03:56,693
the health department.

1844
01:03:56,862 --> 01:03:59,364
I have called and left messages,

1845
01:03:59,364 --> 01:04:01,467
I have called and asked left

1846
01:04:01,467 --> 01:04:03,102
messages, hey, what do I need to

1847
01:04:03,102 --> 01:04:04,235
do so I haven't received

1848
01:04:04,235 --> 01:04:06,504
anything so I went to the

1849
01:04:06,504 --> 01:04:07,572
builder or to the mobile home

1850
01:04:07,572 --> 01:04:08,400
places and I said, look, what do

1851
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,400
we do.

1852
01:04:11,710 --> 01:04:15,414
He said we ask for a permit, you

1853
01:04:15,414 --> 01:04:18,384
buy the unit that you want, at

1854
01:04:18,384 --> 01:04:18,950
the, there's a building

1855
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:20,352
requirement, for the mobile

1856
01:04:20,352 --> 01:04:21,320
home, once you buy one of those,

1857
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,821
we place it.

1858
01:04:22,821 --> 01:04:24,724
Then the next step you would be

1859
01:04:24,724 --> 01:04:27,526
go to the septic tanks or you

1860
01:04:27,526 --> 01:04:28,326
know go to the septic system.

1861
01:04:28,326 --> 01:04:28,961
I'm trying to do the right

1862
01:04:28,961 --> 01:04:29,462
thing, your honor.

1863
01:04:29,462 --> 01:04:31,163
I always have.

1864
01:04:31,163 --> 01:04:32,970
I'm not trying to hide anything

1865
01:04:32,970 --> 01:04:33,966
from anybody.

1866
01:04:33,966 --> 01:04:35,534
And it's being made to look that

1867
01:04:35,534 --> 01:04:37,703
I'm, that I'm doing so.

1868
01:04:37,703 --> 01:04:37,903
First of all, I have not been

1869
01:04:37,903 --> 01:04:39,903
there.

1870
01:04:40,139 --> 01:04:41,600
In a long time.

1871
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,342
Second, I don't have the money

1872
01:04:43,342 --> 01:04:46,145
to go buy a trailer when we went

1873
01:04:46,145 --> 01:04:48,545
through the second meeting.

1874
01:04:48,781 --> 01:04:49,548
Now I'm getting traction and I

1875
01:04:49,548 --> 01:04:51,417
can buy one.

1876
01:04:51,417 --> 01:04:53,219
And that's why I said if I could

1877
01:04:53,219 --> 01:04:54,487
bow given, you know, if I could

1878
01:04:54,487 --> 01:04:56,856
be given 60 to 90 days to pay

1879
01:04:56,856 --> 01:04:59,240
for it, I'll go get a trailer

1880
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,527
and put on there in two weeks.

1881
01:05:01,527 --> 01:05:02,994
But the problem is I don't know

1882
01:05:02,994 --> 01:05:04,863
because of my business, I don't

1883
01:05:04,863 --> 01:05:07,990
know when I'm going to get paid,

1884
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:09,735
I get paid 30 to 50 days after I

1885
01:05:09,735 --> 01:05:11,270
do a project, and I've been

1886
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:12,939
paying back arrears for the

1887
01:05:12,939 --> 01:05:14,607
divorce of a million dollars.

1888
01:05:14,607 --> 01:05:17,310
So I have been living on my skin

1889
01:05:17,310 --> 01:05:19,679
of my teeth for the last five

1890
01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:19,912
months, six months since

1891
01:05:19,912 --> 01:05:21,912
JANUARY.

1892
01:05:21,948 --> 01:05:22,147
And I want to put a trailer on

1893
01:05:22,147 --> 01:05:23,382
there.

1894
01:05:23,382 --> 01:05:25,184
I have always wanted to put a

1895
01:05:25,184 --> 01:05:27,530
trailer on there.

1896
01:05:27,530 --> 01:05:28,621
But way back long ago when I was

1897
01:05:28,621 --> 01:05:29,922
talking with holly she said that

1898
01:05:29,922 --> 01:05:32,692
the code was going to change and

1899
01:05:32,692 --> 01:05:34,160
I could possibly put a modular

1900
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,728
home on the property.

1901
01:05:35,728 --> 01:05:38,998
and that's part of the reason of

1902
01:05:38,998 --> 01:05:40,934
the wait, but I have

1903
01:05:40,934 --> 01:05:42,335
communicated with MS. Benjamin

1904
01:05:42,335 --> 01:05:43,703
and holly, I want to do the

1905
01:05:43,703 --> 01:05:44,671
right thing.

1906
01:05:44,671 --> 01:05:45,939
And the only thing I want to do,

1907
01:05:45,939 --> 01:05:47,707
your honor, is just give me some

1908
01:05:47,707 --> 01:05:50,676
time to get some money in the

1909
01:05:50,676 --> 01:05:51,644
bank where I can go and say hey

1910
01:05:51,644 --> 01:05:52,545
I want to buy this trailer

1911
01:05:52,545 --> 01:05:53,346
trailer

1912
01:05:53,346 --> 01:05:54,647
trailer and they can pull

1913
01:05:54,647 --> 01:05:57,817
the permit and that's a question

1914
01:05:57,817 --> 01:05:58,951
I have for allante is once I buy

1915
01:05:58,951 --> 01:06:02,551
the trailer and put the trailer

1916
01:06:02,989 --> 01:06:04,291
on there, does the trailer

1917
01:06:04,291 --> 01:06:07,270
company request the permit or do

1918
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:07,994
I have to do that?

1919
01:06:07,994 --> 01:06:10,596
And I know there's going to be

1920
01:06:10,596 --> 01:06:12,232
time associated with that.

1921
01:06:12,232 --> 01:06:13,300
All's I'm wanting to do is just

1922
01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:14,934
get enough money to get a

1923
01:06:14,934 --> 01:06:17,471
trailer on there and once I get

1924
01:06:17,471 --> 01:06:18,338
the trailer on then, then I can

1925
01:06:18,338 --> 01:06:21,107
ask for somebody from the county

1926
01:06:21,107 --> 01:06:24,177
to come out and tell me what to

1927
01:06:24,177 --> 01:06:25,450
do for a septic tank because I

1928
01:06:25,450 --> 01:06:27,470
would love to have a mobile home

1929
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:29,470
on that property.

1930
01:06:29,249 --> 01:06:30,984
It's just a time thing, your

1931
01:06:30,984 --> 01:06:32,984
honor, with money.

1932
01:06:33,687 --> 01:06:37,230
I would gladly bought this bun

1933
01:06:37,230 --> 01:06:37,957
you know when you're living on

1934
01:06:37,957 --> 01:06:39,326
$350 a month to eat off of and

1935
01:06:39,326 --> 01:06:42,326
having to pay attorneys, and

1936
01:06:43,163 --> 01:06:45,563
having to pay divorce

1937
01:06:46,990 --> 01:06:46,566
settlement, it's pretty tough.

1938
01:06:46,566 --> 01:06:46,767
>> understood.

1939
01:06:46,767 --> 01:06:48,767
Okay.

1940
01:06:48,969 --> 01:06:50,804
Anything else from the county?

1941
01:06:50,804 --> 01:06:52,804
>> yes, sir.

1942
01:06:52,940 --> 01:06:54,708
So as stated in the previous two

1943
01:06:54,708 --> 01:06:57,611
hearings, this case has been

1944
01:06:57,611 --> 01:06:58,440
open since SEPTEMBER 19th,

1945
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,120
2025.

1946
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,412
Extensions have been given.

1947
01:07:01,815 --> 01:07:04,485
He has received every single

1948
01:07:04,485 --> 01:07:05,752
step to gain compliance from

1949
01:07:05,752 --> 01:07:07,754
myself, from holly banner, and

1950
01:07:07,754 --> 01:07:10,154
from the health department.

1951
01:07:10,491 --> 01:07:12,693
by email which he requested due

1952
01:07:12,693 --> 01:07:14,962
to some health concerns so we

1953
01:07:14,962 --> 01:07:16,363
have obliged that 100%.

1954
01:07:16,363 --> 01:07:19,363
The county has exhausted every

1955
01:07:19,399 --> 01:07:21,234
avenue to assist MR. Thomas.

1956
01:07:21,234 --> 01:07:21,835
Since SEPTEMBER 19th, 2025.

1957
01:07:21,835 --> 01:07:22,836
>> your honor, your honor.

1958
01:07:22,836 --> 01:07:23,370
>> let her finish her

1959
01:07:23,370 --> 01:07:25,370
testimony.

1960
01:07:25,372 --> 01:07:27,700
>> to give him every opportunity

1961
01:07:27,700 --> 01:07:27,908
to make at least one step

1962
01:07:27,908 --> 01:07:28,808
towards compliance and that has

1963
01:07:28,808 --> 01:07:30,808
not been done.

1964
01:07:31,312 --> 01:07:33,747
So at this time, the county is

1965
01:07:33,747 --> 01:07:35,249
stating that we want to start

1966
01:07:35,249 --> 01:07:37,384
and apply the lien to his

1967
01:07:37,384 --> 01:07:39,920
property and then once he does

1968
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,656
come into compliants then we can

1969
01:07:42,656 --> 01:07:46,256
have a conversation about how to

1970
01:07:46,326 --> 01:07:47,794
move forward with the monetary

1971
01:07:47,794 --> 01:07:49,229
finals but as of today -- fines

1972
01:07:49,229 --> 01:07:50,231
but as of today the county is

1973
01:07:50,231 --> 01:07:51,699
not willing to give an extension

1974
01:07:51,699 --> 01:07:52,500
on his case.

1975
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:52,799
>> let me know when I can

1976
01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:53,934
speak.

1977
01:07:53,934 --> 01:07:55,936
>> you can speak now.

1978
01:07:55,936 --> 01:07:57,505
>> here's the thing.

1979
01:07:57,505 --> 01:07:59,407
There has nothing been sent to

1980
01:07:59,407 --> 01:08:00,574
me that says step by step by

1981
01:08:00,574 --> 01:08:01,776
step by step by step what I

1982
01:08:01,776 --> 01:08:02,743
gotta do.

1983
01:08:02,743 --> 01:08:04,445
All's allante it

1984
01:08:04,445 --> 01:08:06,247
's done is told

1985
01:08:06,247 --> 01:08:07,381
me I need to talk to the

1986
01:08:07,381 --> 01:08:07,582
building people.

1987
01:08:07,582 --> 01:08:08,182
Okay.

1988
01:08:08,182 --> 01:08:09,750
I know that.

1989
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:09,951
I know I need to get a house on

1990
01:08:09,951 --> 01:08:11,951
there.

1991
01:08:14,154 --> 01:08:14,889
I have not received but one

1992
01:08:14,889 --> 01:08:16,624
email.

1993
01:08:16,624 --> 01:08:17,925
From the health department.

1994
01:08:17,925 --> 01:08:20,828
And the health department said

1995
01:08:20,828 --> 01:08:23,131
something about a nitrogen

1996
01:08:23,131 --> 01:08:24,399
enrichment system and all of

1997
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:25,132
that but it doesn't matter, your

1998
01:08:25,132 --> 01:08:27,101
honor, I don't have the money to

1999
01:08:27,101 --> 01:08:28,502
pay for it.

2000
01:08:28,502 --> 01:08:28,670
I don't have the money to do

2001
01:08:28,670 --> 01:08:30,670
it.

2002
01:08:30,972 --> 01:08:32,340
I want to do it.

2003
01:08:32,340 --> 01:08:34,375
I am desiring to do it.

2004
01:08:34,375 --> 01:08:35,710
In fact I'm actually looking

2005
01:08:35,710 --> 01:08:37,450
forward to doing it.

2006
01:08:37,450 --> 01:08:39,280
Because I can't live in the home

2007
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,982
that I let my wife live in

2008
01:08:40,982 --> 01:08:42,383
during the divorce because she

2009
01:08:42,383 --> 01:08:43,184
destroyed it.

2010
01:08:43,184 --> 01:08:45,184
I can't live.

2011
01:08:45,186 --> 01:08:46,287
It's not livable on the inside

2012
01:08:46,287 --> 01:08:48,590
because she let dogs in there.

2013
01:08:48,590 --> 01:08:50,725
So I'm living in hotels with my

2014
01:08:50,725 --> 01:08:52,260
projects, I'm out working, like

2015
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:54,995
I said I've been gone from

2016
01:08:54,995 --> 01:08:56,497
florida for almost five months.

2017
01:08:56,497 --> 01:08:58,660
And I've been working, working,

2018
01:08:58,660 --> 01:08:59,634
working trying to get the money

2019
01:08:59,634 --> 01:09:02,340
right to do everything.

2020
01:09:02,871 --> 01:09:04,205
But I have had the only e-mails

2021
01:09:04,205 --> 01:09:06,674
and I can show you the e-mails,

2022
01:09:06,674 --> 01:09:08,900
the only e-mails I have is the

2023
01:09:08,900 --> 01:09:11,900
original one where holly raised

2024
01:09:11,913 --> 01:09:13,514
a little bit of hell with the,

2025
01:09:13,514 --> 01:09:14,916
with the health department and

2026
01:09:14,916 --> 01:09:16,618
said let MR. Thomas know.

2027
01:09:16,618 --> 01:09:20,218
I got one email stating that

2028
01:09:20,222 --> 01:09:21,220
there was a nitrogen or

2029
01:09:21,220 --> 01:09:23,391
something system but that's all

2030
01:09:23,391 --> 01:09:24,592
I got so I called back four or

2031
01:09:24,592 --> 01:09:25,600
five times and left messages and

2032
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,495
said heart

2033
01:09:26,495 --> 01:09:27,595
hey, please tell me

2034
01:09:27,595 --> 01:09:27,995
what the next steps are.

2035
01:09:27,995 --> 01:09:29,995
Please tell me.

2036
01:09:30,565 --> 01:09:32,670
And it's just like when I called

2037
01:09:32,670 --> 01:09:32,267
code enforcement the first

2038
01:09:32,267 --> 01:09:33,935
time.

2039
01:09:33,935 --> 01:09:35,603
They just tell you no.

2040
01:09:35,603 --> 01:09:36,571
Well, I'm in kind of a strange

2041
01:09:36,571 --> 01:09:38,473
situation here, your honor.

2042
01:09:38,473 --> 01:09:40,474
I want to do it, but I just

2043
01:09:40,474 --> 01:09:40,909
don't have the money.

2044
01:09:40,909 --> 01:09:42,244
>> understood.

2045
01:09:42,244 --> 01:09:44,612
>> I desire to do it.

2046
01:09:44,612 --> 01:09:45,747
I want to be compliant.

2047
01:09:45,747 --> 01:09:46,682
I want to put a house.

2048
01:09:46,682 --> 01:09:47,349
I've always wanted to put a

2049
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:48,984
house on it.

2050
01:09:48,984 --> 01:09:50,652
But when, you know, when a judge

2051
01:09:50,652 --> 01:09:54,222
slams the gavel and says a

2052
01:09:54,222 --> 01:09:54,590
million bucks, what do you do?

2053
01:09:54,590 --> 01:09:55,190
>> understood.

2054
01:09:55,190 --> 01:09:57,190
Okay.

2055
01:09:59,628 --> 01:10:00,620
MR. Thomas, I understand your

2056
01:10:00,620 --> 01:10:00,795
position.

2057
01:10:00,795 --> 01:10:02,497
So anything else from the

2058
01:10:02,497 --> 01:10:04,199
county?

2059
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:05,233
>> no, sir.

2060
01:10:05,233 --> 01:10:06,501
>> all right, I'll make my

2061
01:10:06,501 --> 01:10:07,903
decision later.

2062
01:10:07,903 --> 01:10:12,400
Thank you for being on the line,

2063
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,400
MR. Thomas.

2064
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:15,100
>> okay, what do I do now, your

2065
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:17,100
honor?

2066
01:10:17,246 --> 01:10:18,547
>> well, I'll make a decision,

2067
01:10:18,547 --> 01:10:21,884
and if I decide that a lien is

2068
01:10:21,884 --> 01:10:24,520
in order, you've heard earlier

2069
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:25,870
testimony I believe that or

2070
01:10:25,870 --> 01:10:28,230
statements that you know once

2071
01:10:28,230 --> 01:10:28,757
you come into compliance, the

2072
01:10:28,757 --> 01:10:30,392
fines stop, and then you have

2073
01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:34,592
the ability to come back to me

2074
01:10:34,597 --> 01:10:34,796
and ask for a reduction in those

2075
01:10:34,796 --> 01:10:36,796
fines.

2076
01:10:37,499 --> 01:10:37,799
>> can I ask this question?

2077
01:10:37,799 --> 01:10:38,634
>> sure.

2078
01:10:38,634 --> 01:10:42,834
>> so I can go ahead and proceed

2079
01:10:42,972 --> 01:10:45,241
with getting the, the approved

2080
01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:45,674
mobile home put on the property,

2081
01:10:45,674 --> 01:10:46,776
correct?

2082
01:10:46,776 --> 01:10:48,544
>> yeah, if that'll bring you

2083
01:10:48,544 --> 01:10:49,445
into compliance, then yes, you

2084
01:10:49,445 --> 01:10:51,747
can proceed with that.

2085
01:10:51,747 --> 01:10:52,348
What you want to do is make

2086
01:10:52,348 --> 01:10:53,382
sure --

2087
01:10:53,382 --> 01:10:54,450
>> can I allante something, is

2088
01:10:54,450 --> 01:10:55,584
she still there?

2089
01:10:55,584 --> 01:10:57,860
>> yes, she's still here.

2090
01:10:57,860 --> 01:11:00,422
Hang on a second, let her get to

2091
01:11:00,422 --> 01:11:00,723
the podium.

2092
01:11:00,723 --> 01:11:02,723
>>> hello.

2093
01:11:02,958 --> 01:11:04,960
Yes, how MAY I help you?

2094
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,595
>>> can, if I put the, if I go

2095
01:11:06,595 --> 01:11:08,497
to the trailer company and I

2096
01:11:08,497 --> 01:11:12,568
say, okay, this the one that I

2097
01:11:12,568 --> 01:11:13,870
want, do they pull the permit?

2098
01:11:13,870 --> 01:11:15,204
The building permit for that,

2099
01:11:15,204 --> 01:11:17,204
for the installation?

2100
01:11:17,273 --> 01:11:18,374
Like any other business would

2101
01:11:18,374 --> 01:11:20,374
do?

2102
01:11:20,843 --> 01:11:23,545
>>> once you find the mobile

2103
01:11:23,545 --> 01:11:25,480
home that is suitable to you, I

2104
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:25,748
do oblige you to reach out to

2105
01:11:25,748 --> 01:11:26,882
holly banner about the specs and

2106
01:11:26,882 --> 01:11:29,285
the type of mobile home that

2107
01:11:29,285 --> 01:11:32,285
you're looking into to ensure

2108
01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:33,489
that the property zoning is

2109
01:11:33,489 --> 01:11:34,891
adequate because one thing the

2110
01:11:34,891 --> 01:11:36,359
county does not want you to do

2111
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:37,359
is spend money on a mobile home

2112
01:11:37,359 --> 01:11:38,828
that's not approved for your

2113
01:11:38,828 --> 01:11:41,230
property, so once you find one

2114
01:11:41,230 --> 01:11:42,798
to your liking, please give

2115
01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:43,799
those specs to holly banner and

2116
01:11:43,799 --> 01:11:45,935
I will suggest by email so she

2117
01:11:45,935 --> 01:11:47,103
will have time to look over and

2118
01:11:47,103 --> 01:11:48,104
let you know if that's adequate

2119
01:11:48,104 --> 01:11:48,538
for compliance.

2120
01:11:48,538 --> 01:11:49,372
>> okay.

2121
01:11:49,372 --> 01:11:51,240
>> because you know we want --

2122
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,208
>> and that's that, that's that

2123
01:11:52,208 --> 01:11:53,275
building code is what you're

2124
01:11:53,275 --> 01:11:54,677
talking about that she explained

2125
01:11:54,677 --> 01:11:56,446
to me in the email?

2126
01:11:56,446 --> 01:11:57,747
Because in her email to me said

2127
01:11:57,747 --> 01:12:01,830
that I had to follow this.

2128
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:03,519
But this was a long time ago.

2129
01:12:03,519 --> 01:12:04,688
So you're talking about

2130
01:12:04,688 --> 01:12:05,688
following the building codes for

2131
01:12:05,688 --> 01:12:06,723
hurricane proof and all that

2132
01:12:06,723 --> 01:12:06,956
stuff for alachua county,

2133
01:12:06,956 --> 01:12:08,658
correct?

2134
01:12:08,658 --> 01:12:11,610
>> that'll be a question for

2135
01:12:11,610 --> 01:12:11,327
MS. Holly banner because I do

2136
01:12:11,327 --> 01:12:12,696
do

2137
01:12:12,696 --> 01:12:12,995
not want to give you inadequate

2138
01:12:12,995 --> 01:12:14,230
information.

2139
01:12:14,230 --> 01:12:15,966
So as I stated previously, if

2140
01:12:15,966 --> 01:12:17,600
you find a mobile home to your

2141
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,235
liking, just clear it with holly

2142
01:12:18,235 --> 01:12:19,690
banner first on whether or not

2143
01:12:19,690 --> 01:12:21,805
you can move forward with that

2144
01:12:21,805 --> 01:12:23,673
one or she can suggest some that

2145
01:12:23,673 --> 01:12:25,108
will fit and you can just have

2146
01:12:25,108 --> 01:12:25,675
some to choose from.

2147
01:12:25,675 --> 01:12:27,410
>> okay, okay, understood.

2148
01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:30,380
Second question, once I get the

2149
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:32,849
trailer there, and then can I,

2150
01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:33,683
can I request or can I come down

2151
01:12:33,683 --> 01:12:35,685
there and get the health

2152
01:12:35,685 --> 01:12:37,187
department to come out and look

2153
01:12:37,187 --> 01:12:39,556
and tell me what to do for the

2154
01:12:39,556 --> 01:12:41,291
septic tank?

2155
01:12:41,291 --> 01:12:42,926
Because I'm getting conflicting

2156
01:12:42,926 --> 01:12:44,560
stories because the original,

2157
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,630
the two, the two contractors I

2158
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:48,298
had there for theept isic tank

2159
01:12:48,298 --> 01:12:49,866
said no your -- the septic tank

2160
01:12:49,866 --> 01:12:51,368
said no your property's too

2161
01:12:51,368 --> 01:12:52,636
small, no they won't allow this

2162
01:12:52,636 --> 01:12:52,836
but you can possibly tie into

2163
01:12:52,836 --> 01:12:53,704
this.

2164
01:12:53,704 --> 01:12:54,338
And I said well that's what

2165
01:12:54,338 --> 01:12:55,305
you're saying.

2166
01:12:55,305 --> 01:12:57,207
Let me get with the county and

2167
01:12:57,207 --> 01:12:58,976
the county hasn't responded to

2168
01:12:58,976 --> 01:13:00,944
anything so my question to you

2169
01:13:00,944 --> 01:13:02,179
is allante once I get the

2170
01:13:02,179 --> 01:13:04,915
trailer house there and then I'm

2171
01:13:04,915 --> 01:13:05,782
in compliance, then can I get

2172
01:13:05,782 --> 01:13:08,510
the health garment to come out

2173
01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:08,952
and tell me what -- health

2174
01:13:08,952 --> 01:13:10,621
department to come out and tell

2175
01:13:10,621 --> 01:13:12,890
me what to do?

2176
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:13,924
>> so the issue at hand as well

2177
01:13:13,924 --> 01:13:15,492
is the lot size of your property

2178
01:13:15,492 --> 01:13:15,793
and the scetbacks.

2179
01:13:15,793 --> 01:13:16,860
>> right.

2180
01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:17,560
>> so before you even put the

2181
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,464
mobile home on the property you

2182
01:13:20,464 --> 01:13:21,498
will have to make sure you have

2183
01:13:21,498 --> 01:13:22,366
space for the septic tank that

2184
01:13:22,366 --> 01:13:23,667
is approved by the health

2185
01:13:23,667 --> 01:13:25,536
department so you will have to

2186
01:13:25,536 --> 01:13:26,770
coordinate with both departments

2187
01:13:26,770 --> 01:13:29,840
to ensure once the septic tank

2188
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,175
is placed, and the mobile home

2189
01:13:31,175 --> 01:13:31,508
is placed that all is well and

2190
01:13:31,508 --> 01:13:33,343
good, right?

2191
01:13:33,343 --> 01:13:34,677
Because you don't want to do --

2192
01:13:34,677 --> 01:13:37,548
either or without the other and

2193
01:13:37,548 --> 01:13:38,810
then you have setback issues,

2194
01:13:38,810 --> 01:13:40,810
right.

2195
01:13:41,485 --> 01:13:43,220
>> okay, so you're both.

2196
01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:44,288
>> let's clear both with both

2197
01:13:44,288 --> 01:13:45,656
departments before replacing

2198
01:13:45,656 --> 01:13:46,623
anything that way the setback

2199
01:13:46,623 --> 01:13:49,593
and zoning will be proper.

2200
01:13:49,593 --> 01:13:51,610
>> so I need to go to the health

2201
01:13:51,610 --> 01:13:54,310
department and get them to tell

2202
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:57,101
me yes or no if I can't have, if

2203
01:13:57,101 --> 01:14:00,738
I can't have a septic tank on

2204
01:14:00,738 --> 01:14:03,541
there, can I have a dump tank?

2205
01:14:03,541 --> 01:14:04,342
Can I, can I ask for, can I for

2206
01:14:04,342 --> 01:14:06,510
special permission to have a

2207
01:14:06,510 --> 01:14:08,179
dump tank?

2208
01:14:08,179 --> 01:14:08,946
>> you MAY request anything you

2209
01:14:08,946 --> 01:14:09,247
like with the health

2210
01:14:09,247 --> 01:14:10,615
department.

2211
01:14:10,615 --> 01:14:10,815
It's up to them to approve it,

2212
01:14:10,815 --> 01:14:12,815
right?

2213
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:14,652
There is no such thing as --

2214
01:14:14,652 --> 01:14:14,918
>> health department is the

2215
01:14:14,918 --> 01:14:15,620
primary --

2216
01:14:15,620 --> 01:14:17,540
>> unnecessary question when it

2217
01:14:17,540 --> 01:14:17,321
comes to a situation like

2218
01:14:17,321 --> 01:14:19,321
yowrdz.

2219
01:14:20,191 --> 01:14:21,625
So if that's something that you

2220
01:14:21,625 --> 01:14:22,593
feel will be best adequate,

2221
01:14:22,593 --> 01:14:24,629
definitely ask the health

2222
01:14:24,629 --> 01:14:27,629
department is that a substitute

2223
01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:29,400
for the septic tank that they

2224
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,368
suggested.

2225
01:14:30,368 --> 01:14:31,350
>> what do I do to get the

2226
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:33,400
health department to communicate

2227
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:33,671
with me?

2228
01:14:33,671 --> 01:14:34,339
>>> you can --

2229
01:14:34,339 --> 01:14:35,773
>> I have called.

2230
01:14:35,773 --> 01:14:39,373
>> I mean, every office you can

2231
01:14:40,712 --> 01:14:40,945
call, you can email, or go in

2232
01:14:40,945 --> 01:14:42,945
person.

2233
01:14:44,382 --> 01:14:45,683
They do have open office hours.

2234
01:14:45,683 --> 01:14:49,883
That's what I'm going to do it.

2235
01:14:50,521 --> 01:14:52,257
I have gone down in person -- I

2236
01:14:52,257 --> 01:14:53,258
have called, I have left

2237
01:14:53,258 --> 01:14:53,658
messages, I have done all of

2238
01:14:53,658 --> 01:14:54,425
that.

2239
01:14:54,425 --> 01:14:56,928
I didn't realize the health

2240
01:14:56,928 --> 01:14:59,928
garment was the, was predicates

2241
01:15:00,650 --> 01:15:01,198
everything else.

2242
01:15:01,198 --> 01:15:02,400
>> they're an independent state

2243
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,633
agency, so they're not the

2244
01:15:02,633 --> 01:15:03,735
county.

2245
01:15:03,735 --> 01:15:06,735
>> yeah, I didn't realize nat.

2246
01:15:08,139 --> 01:15:11,142
I thought if I put the trailer

2247
01:15:11,142 --> 01:15:13,142
home on it.

2248
01:15:13,678 --> 01:15:14,846
Just put a dump tank.

2249
01:15:14,846 --> 01:15:17,810
Like I've got on all of my

2250
01:15:17,810 --> 01:15:18,282
office trailers that works.

2251
01:15:18,282 --> 01:15:19,684
i have a guy come out once a

2252
01:15:19,684 --> 01:15:19,884
month and suck them out.

2253
01:15:19,884 --> 01:15:21,318
That --

2254
01:15:21,318 --> 01:15:22,187
>> that's going to be between --

2255
01:15:22,187 --> 01:15:23,154
yeah, that's going to be between

2256
01:15:23,154 --> 01:15:26,154
you and the health department.

2257
01:15:26,324 --> 01:15:27,792
You MAY be able to get a septic

2258
01:15:27,792 --> 01:15:28,493
tank contractor to assist you

2259
01:15:28,493 --> 01:15:29,628
with that.

2260
01:15:29,628 --> 01:15:31,162
Most of the septic tank

2261
01:15:31,162 --> 01:15:33,265
contractors will pull the permit

2262
01:15:33,265 --> 01:15:34,833
through the health department so

2263
01:15:34,833 --> 01:15:36,334
I would encourage you to reach

2264
01:15:36,334 --> 01:15:37,669
out to a septic tank company and

2265
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:38,403
have them because they MAY get

2266
01:15:38,403 --> 01:15:40,505
more response from the health

2267
01:15:40,505 --> 01:15:40,873
department than you do.

2268
01:15:40,873 --> 01:15:42,873
>> okay.

2269
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:44,642
Your honor, I won't take up

2270
01:15:44,642 --> 01:15:45,477
anymore time but I want you to

2271
01:15:45,477 --> 01:15:47,790
understand I want to dothe right

2272
01:15:47,790 --> 01:15:50,810
thing but there is a -- there is

2273
01:15:50,810 --> 01:15:51,116
a missing link between the

2274
01:15:51,116 --> 01:15:52,251
county and the people actually

2275
01:15:52,251 --> 01:15:54,219
trying to do it.

2276
01:15:54,219 --> 01:15:56,955
I'm not trying to bs anybody.

2277
01:15:56,955 --> 01:15:58,690
All's I want to do is a step by

2278
01:15:58,690 --> 01:16:00,525
step by step remedial short bus

2279
01:16:00,525 --> 01:16:02,661
list for a guy like me to be

2280
01:16:02,661 --> 01:16:02,961
able to follow and be within

2281
01:16:02,961 --> 01:16:03,795
compliance.

2282
01:16:03,795 --> 01:16:05,630
That's all.

2283
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:07,166
>> and I think that septic tank

2284
01:16:07,166 --> 01:16:08,633
company can help you with that.

2285
01:16:08,633 --> 01:16:09,468
>> yep, all right, well I

2286
01:16:09,468 --> 01:16:10,335
appreciate your time.

2287
01:16:10,335 --> 01:16:11,136
Allante, thank you for your

2288
01:16:11,136 --> 01:16:11,870
time.

2289
01:16:11,870 --> 01:16:12,871
Everybody, thank you.

2290
01:16:12,871 --> 01:16:13,572
>> you're welcome.

2291
01:16:13,572 --> 01:16:15,700
>> I'm thying

2292
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:15,307
trying to do the

2293
01:16:15,307 --> 01:16:15,974
right thing.

2294
01:16:15,974 --> 01:16:16,742
Thanks a lot, judge.

2295
01:16:16,742 --> 01:16:17,910
>> all right, you have a good

2296
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:18,944
rest of your day.

2297
01:16:18,944 --> 01:16:22,381
All right, we're now moving into

2298
01:16:22,381 --> 01:16:23,382
the reduction hearings, so read

2299
01:16:23,382 --> 01:16:24,950
a statement.

2300
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:25,618
The code enforcement special

2301
01:16:25,618 --> 01:16:27,190
magistrate will now hear

2302
01:16:27,190 --> 01:16:28,921
requests for reduction of fines

2303
01:16:28,921 --> 01:16:30,722
and rescissions of liens.

2304
01:16:30,722 --> 01:16:32,424
The decisions to grant or deny

2305
01:16:32,424 --> 01:16:33,359
your request is solely within my

2306
01:16:33,359 --> 01:16:34,526
discretion under florida statute

2307
01:16:34,526 --> 01:16:36,526
and county ordinances.

2308
01:16:36,528 --> 01:16:37,396
In making my decision, I MAY

2309
01:16:37,396 --> 01:16:39,396
consider recommendations from

2310
01:16:39,765 --> 01:16:40,132
the alachua county code

2311
01:16:40,132 --> 01:16:41,267
administration.

2312
01:16:41,267 --> 01:16:42,368
Please state precisely what you

2313
01:16:42,368 --> 01:16:43,936
are requesting and why you

2314
01:16:43,936 --> 01:16:44,270
believe I should grant your

2315
01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:45,571
request.

2316
01:16:45,571 --> 01:16:47,206
You MAY present any information

2317
01:16:47,206 --> 01:16:47,438
that is relevant to your

2318
01:16:47,438 --> 01:16:48,541
request.

2319
01:16:48,541 --> 01:16:50,209
The only purpose of this hearing

2320
01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:51,343
is to consider a reduction of

2321
01:16:51,343 --> 01:16:52,945
fine or rescission of lien.

2322
01:16:52,945 --> 01:16:55,280
This is not an opportunity to

2323
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,281
discuss the original findings of

2324
01:16:56,281 --> 01:16:57,482
guilt for the violations.

2325
01:16:57,482 --> 01:16:58,551
Please refrain from commenting

2326
01:16:58,551 --> 01:16:59,384
on the original proceedings

2327
01:16:59,384 --> 01:17:02,555
since I have no authority to

2328
01:17:02,555 --> 01:17:04,856
revisit the final action.

2329
01:17:04,856 --> 01:17:07,526
All right, so we're going to

2330
01:17:07,526 --> 01:17:09,926
call the first case.

2331
01:17:11,831 --> 01:17:13,831
>> case 25-002245, alachua

2332
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:17,399
county versus hairl william j.

2333
01:17:24,777 --> 01:17:25,378
Senior.

2334
01:17:25,378 --> 01:17:26,212
>> [Off mic]

2335
01:17:26,212 --> 01:17:28,612
>> that is my father.

2336
01:17:30,750 --> 01:17:31,951
>> let her swear you in.

2337
01:17:31,951 --> 01:17:33,951
>> sir?

2338
01:17:37,423 --> 01:17:39,325
[Off mic]

2339
01:17:39,325 --> 01:17:40,359
>> you are not requesting the

2340
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:41,360
reduction so the only person who

2341
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,360
can speak is the person

2342
01:17:44,731 --> 01:17:45,931
requesting the reduction.

2343
01:17:45,931 --> 01:17:48,735
This is different than the other

2344
01:17:48,735 --> 01:17:50,436
cases, because this is the -- on

2345
01:17:50,436 --> 01:17:51,300
the person seek thoog

2346
01:17:51,300 --> 01:17:51,805
leduction -- seeking the

2347
01:17:51,805 --> 01:17:55,405
reduction to speak and then the

2348
01:18:03,216 --> 01:18:05,216
county will respond.

2349
01:18:07,519 --> 01:18:08,540
>> [Swearing in]

2350
01:18:08,540 --> 01:18:08,688
>> yes, ma'am.

2351
01:18:08,688 --> 01:18:11,688
>> please state your name fr

2352
01:18:13,994 --> 01:18:15,428
the record.

2353
01:18:15,428 --> 01:18:17,428
>> michael harrell.

2354
01:18:17,530 --> 01:18:18,431
>> my name is james harrell.

2355
01:18:18,431 --> 01:18:19,766
William harrell --

2356
01:18:19,766 --> 01:18:20,533
>> you're the one who is seeking

2357
01:18:20,533 --> 01:18:21,534
the request.

2358
01:18:21,534 --> 01:18:23,236
>> the way this process works is

2359
01:18:23,236 --> 01:18:24,371
totally defer than what --

2360
01:18:24,371 --> 01:18:24,537
different than what we just

2361
01:18:24,537 --> 01:18:26,105
did.

2362
01:18:26,105 --> 01:18:27,207
The birdant is on you now.

2363
01:18:27,207 --> 01:18:28,440
-- burden is on you now.

2364
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:30,843
You have to convince me why I

2365
01:18:30,843 --> 01:18:31,678
should reduce the fine.

2366
01:18:31,678 --> 01:18:32,479
Money spent, hardships, that%

2367
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:33,379
kind of thing and then I will

2368
01:18:33,379 --> 01:18:34,514
ask the county for their

2369
01:18:34,514 --> 01:18:34,781
response and then I'll make a

2370
01:18:34,781 --> 01:18:35,949
decision.

2371
01:18:35,949 --> 01:18:37,317
>> all right.

2372
01:18:37,317 --> 01:18:39,252
>> yes, sir, if I can, if I can

2373
01:18:39,252 --> 01:18:41,252
speak now.

2374
01:18:41,988 --> 01:18:44,924
So my -- I wrote the letter to

2375
01:18:44,924 --> 01:18:46,393
you and also to the, was

2376
01:18:46,393 --> 01:18:48,610
hardship letter and stuff like

2377
01:18:48,610 --> 01:18:49,462
that pthat was all me because my

2378
01:18:49,462 --> 01:18:50,397
father is obviously, I mean as

2379
01:18:50,397 --> 01:18:53,367
you can tell he can barely you

2380
01:18:53,367 --> 01:18:55,101
know get around and walk.

2381
01:18:55,101 --> 01:18:55,836
I did not know about any of the

2382
01:18:55,836 --> 01:18:56,703
code enforcement

2383
01:18:56,703 --> 01:18:58,238
enforcement

2384
01:18:58,238 --> 01:18:59,906
violations until MAY 22nd.

2385
01:18:59,906 --> 01:19:02,906
Whenever I visited his house

2386
01:19:06,679 --> 01:19:07,781
kind of saw the condition of

2387
01:19:07,781 --> 01:19:08,982
things, he had not told anyone

2388
01:19:08,982 --> 01:19:09,550
in the family what he had been

2389
01:19:09,550 --> 01:19:10,818
going through.

2390
01:19:10,818 --> 01:19:11,510
He had already been through a

2391
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:13,510
hearing.

2392
01:19:13,420 --> 01:19:13,654
I wanted to -- the fines are

2393
01:19:13,654 --> 01:19:14,555
$26,900.

2394
01:19:14,555 --> 01:19:15,589
>> that's correct.

2395
01:19:15,589 --> 01:19:18,592
>> he is unable to pay that.

2396
01:19:18,592 --> 01:19:19,827
He's on a single -- you know, I

2397
01:19:19,827 --> 01:19:20,930
believe social security I think

2398
01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:21,828
is.

2399
01:19:21,828 --> 01:19:23,163
He gets one check per month

2400
01:19:23,163 --> 01:19:23,430
doesn't have any money for

2401
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:25,430
anything.

2402
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,134
I've spent money out of my own

2403
01:19:27,134 --> 01:19:28,101
pocket he spent whatever he had

2404
01:19:28,101 --> 01:19:30,371
in savings and stuff like that

2405
01:19:30,371 --> 01:19:31,705
to be able to come into

2406
01:19:31,705 --> 01:19:33,174
compliance to hire a company to

2407
01:19:33,174 --> 01:19:35,109
clean the property.

2408
01:19:35,109 --> 01:19:35,409
Removing the junk and all that,

2409
01:19:35,409 --> 01:19:36,911
everything.

2410
01:19:36,911 --> 01:19:37,243
>> do you know how much you have

2411
01:19:37,243 --> 01:19:39,243
spent?

2412
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:41,880
>> I believe it was $5500.

2413
01:19:53,794 --> 01:19:54,160
And then he paid $1400 I

2414
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,160
believe.

2415
01:19:57,531 --> 01:19:58,565
I included receipts, 50, $60,

2416
01:19:58,565 --> 01:19:58,799
here, dump fines and stuff like

2417
01:19:58,799 --> 01:19:59,767
that.

2418
01:19:59,767 --> 01:20:01,100
>> what do you want me to reduce

2419
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,200
the fine to.

2420
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,200
>> if I could be completely

2421
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,242
honest, I mean, as little as

2422
01:20:08,242 --> 01:20:11,212
possible we're at your mercy.

2423
01:20:11,212 --> 01:20:12,914
>> I mean, $100?

2424
01:20:12,914 --> 01:20:13,214
I mean, I don't know what's

2425
01:20:13,214 --> 01:20:15,214
reasonable.

2426
01:20:16,350 --> 01:20:17,385
>> whatever the fine is,.

2427
01:20:17,385 --> 01:20:19,385
>> it's 26,000 --

2428
01:20:20,388 --> 01:20:22,388
>> $15 a month.

2429
01:20:22,590 --> 01:20:24,590
>> yeah, $26,900 right now.

2430
01:20:24,892 --> 01:20:26,393
So and if I remember correct, we

2431
01:20:26,393 --> 01:20:29,393
will accept payment process or

2432
01:20:29,697 --> 01:20:31,697
in terms of.

2433
01:20:32,567 --> 01:20:33,334
>> no, we have not been --

2434
01:20:33,334 --> 01:20:35,269
>> we have in the past.

2435
01:20:35,269 --> 01:20:38,720
>> we have in the past, but at

2436
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,273
this point we no longer offer a

2437
01:20:39,273 --> 01:20:41,750
payment plans.

2438
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:42,710
>> okay so all right what is the

2439
01:20:42,710 --> 01:20:43,544
county's position on this in

2440
01:20:43,544 --> 01:20:44,545
terms of reduction.

2441
01:20:44,545 --> 01:20:46,548
>> I wanted to give you an idea

2442
01:20:46,548 --> 01:20:49,784
of the case for the record.

2443
01:20:49,784 --> 01:20:50,510
Case was opened back in

2444
01:20:50,510 --> 01:20:51,452
MAY 2025.

2445
01:20:51,452 --> 01:20:54,452
At the magistrate hearing you

2446
01:20:55,220 --> 01:20:55,423
gave him until NOVEMBER.

2447
01:20:55,423 --> 01:20:56,958
2025.

2448
01:20:56,958 --> 01:20:59,958
So the clean-up actually didn't

2449
01:21:01,129 --> 01:21:01,495
start until MAY 2026 with his

2450
01:21:01,495 --> 01:21:03,495
son.

2451
01:21:03,732 --> 01:21:03,964
and the compliance date was in

2452
01:21:03,964 --> 01:21:05,300
AUGUST.

2453
01:21:05,300 --> 01:21:07,168
Within those three months, they

2454
01:21:07,168 --> 01:21:08,503
did a massive amount of work.

2455
01:21:08,503 --> 01:21:10,772
So I just wanted to hand over

2456
01:21:10,772 --> 01:21:12,307
some pingtures for the case for

2457
01:21:12,307 --> 01:21:12,574
you -- pictures for the case for

2458
01:21:12,574 --> 01:21:14,574
you.

2459
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:19,915
And by saying that it's a

2460
01:21:19,915 --> 01:21:20,810
incredible amount of work they

2461
01:21:20,810 --> 01:21:20,882
did.

2462
01:21:20,882 --> 01:21:22,851
The county does appreciate that

2463
01:21:22,851 --> 01:21:23,952
so we have no recommendation but

2464
01:21:23,952 --> 01:21:27,552
any reduction that you can grant

2465
01:21:27,755 --> 01:21:28,220
the county would agree to.

2466
01:21:28,220 --> 01:21:30,220
>> okay.

2467
01:21:30,492 --> 01:21:31,920
All right so just so you know

2468
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,126
historically, where it's

2469
01:21:32,126 --> 01:21:34,526
warranted the reductions are

2470
01:21:35,290 --> 01:21:37,429
typically somewhere into the 90

2471
01:21:39,267 --> 01:21:40,636
to 99% reduction.

2472
01:21:40,636 --> 01:21:42,704
And so based on the county's

2473
01:21:42,704 --> 01:21:43,638
statement about your spending

2474
01:21:43,638 --> 01:21:44,840
you know you spent a great deal

2475
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,875
of money to bring this into

2476
01:21:46,875 --> 01:21:48,610
compliance and it's now in

2477
01:21:48,610 --> 01:21:48,877
compliance, I will grant a

2478
01:21:48,877 --> 01:21:50,445
reduction.

2479
01:21:50,445 --> 01:21:53,150
I will have to think about it

2480
01:21:53,150 --> 01:21:53,949
that'll be at least 90% and

2481
01:21:53,949 --> 01:21:55,918
probably lower than that.

2482
01:21:55,918 --> 01:21:56,752
>> thank you for anything you

2483
01:21:56,752 --> 01:21:58,153
can do.

2484
01:21:58,153 --> 01:22:00,121
>> okay and also thank you.

2485
01:22:00,121 --> 01:22:01,289
They were all wonderful to work

2486
01:22:01,289 --> 01:22:02,424
with by the way.

2487
01:22:02,424 --> 01:22:03,910
>> we like to see the property's

2488
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:04,893
in compliance.

2489
01:22:04,893 --> 01:22:06,270
We don't want your money.

2490
01:22:06,270 --> 01:22:07,930
>> I understand, and it is my

2491
01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:08,363
fault because I built the house

2492
01:22:08,363 --> 01:22:10,363
in 1999.

2493
01:22:10,732 --> 01:22:12,468
And I lived there and just as my

2494
01:22:12,468 --> 01:22:13,335
health went down so did my

2495
01:22:13,335 --> 01:22:14,570
ambition of doing things.

2496
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:15,771
>> I understand.

2497
01:22:15,771 --> 01:22:16,471
As we get older.

2498
01:22:16,471 --> 01:22:19,471
>> there are projects I wanted

2499
01:22:20,409 --> 01:22:21,477
to do when I retired and I got

2500
01:22:21,477 --> 01:22:23,644
hurt and I haven't been able to

2501
01:22:23,644 --> 01:22:24,813
do nothing so I have had to --

2502
01:22:24,813 --> 01:22:26,150
>> I'm just glad he still talks

2503
01:22:26,150 --> 01:22:26,681
to me after getting rid of all

2504
01:22:26,681 --> 01:22:27,583
his stuff.

2505
01:22:27,583 --> 01:22:28,784
>> let him take over and do

2506
01:22:28,784 --> 01:22:29,718
everything he needed to do that

2507
01:22:29,718 --> 01:22:30,850
I wouldn't.

2508
01:22:30,850 --> 01:22:31,686
>> understood.

2509
01:22:31,686 --> 01:22:33,220
>> well thank you for both being

2510
01:22:33,220 --> 01:22:34,122
here and thank you for getting

2511
01:22:34,122 --> 01:22:34,456
it cleaned up.

2512
01:22:34,456 --> 01:22:35,240
>> yes, sir.

2513
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,391
>> because I'm sure your

2514
01:22:36,391 --> 01:22:36,658
neighbors appreciate it as

2515
01:22:36,658 --> 01:22:37,259
well.

2516
01:22:37,259 --> 01:22:38,127
>> understood, sir.

2517
01:22:38,127 --> 01:22:39,527
>> we appreciate all the hard

2518
01:22:39,527 --> 01:22:41,960
work you did.

2519
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:41,297
>> well, like I said, thank you

2520
01:22:41,297 --> 01:22:42,331
both.

2521
01:22:42,331 --> 01:22:43,332
>> all right.

2522
01:22:43,332 --> 01:22:45,301
>> thank you.

2523
01:22:45,301 --> 01:22:45,634
>> I'm glad to be on y'all's

2524
01:22:45,634 --> 01:22:46,669
side now.

2525
01:22:46,669 --> 01:22:46,969
>> thank you.

2526
01:22:46,969 --> 01:22:48,969
[Laughter]

2527
01:22:49,380 --> 01:22:49,939
>> all right, next case,

2528
01:22:49,939 --> 01:22:51,939
and

2529
01:22:52,108 --> 01:22:52,508
last case I believe for this

2530
01:22:52,508 --> 01:22:54,508
hearing.

2531
01:22:56,445 --> 01:22:56,712
>> case 26-000-757 alachua

2532
01:22:56,712 --> 01:22:58,140
county --

2533
01:22:58,140 --> 01:22:59,548
>> no, ma'am, you cannot speak

2534
01:22:59,548 --> 01:23:00,216
because you did not request the

2535
01:23:00,216 --> 01:23:00,516
reduction.

2536
01:23:00,516 --> 01:23:01,851
>> pardon?

2537
01:23:01,851 --> 01:23:02,118
>> you did not request the

2538
01:23:02,118 --> 01:23:03,219
reduction.

2539
01:23:03,219 --> 01:23:04,520
Only the person seeking the

2540
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,520
reduction can speak at a

2541
01:23:08,624 --> 01:23:10,624
reduction hearing.

2542
01:23:10,893 --> 01:23:12,161
>> I have a

2543
01:23:12,161 --> 01:23:15,131
-- I am the spouse

2544
01:23:15,131 --> 01:23:16,365
of the owner of the property.

2545
01:23:16,365 --> 01:23:17,733
>> but the you did not request

2546
01:23:17,733 --> 01:23:18,340
the reduction.

2547
01:23:18,340 --> 01:23:19,135
>> pardon?

2548
01:23:19,135 --> 01:23:19,502
>> you did not request the

2549
01:23:19,502 --> 01:23:20,736
reduction.

2550
01:23:20,736 --> 01:23:21,303
So you MAY not speak.

2551
01:23:21,303 --> 01:23:23,303
it's only --

2552
01:23:25,241 --> 01:23:26,750
>> I have a -- give him a chance

2553
01:23:26,750 --> 01:23:27,276
to request it.

2554
01:23:27,276 --> 01:23:27,977
I sent you a letter.

2555
01:23:27,977 --> 01:23:28,745
>> you would have to make a

2556
01:23:28,745 --> 01:23:30,379
request to speak.

2557
01:23:30,379 --> 01:23:32,582
And you would have to have filed

2558
01:23:32,582 --> 01:23:32,815
the request and get on the

2559
01:23:32,815 --> 01:23:34,117
agenda.

2560
01:23:34,117 --> 01:23:37,219
>> so you can't here me today?

2561
01:23:37,219 --> 01:23:37,486
>> no, ma'am.

2562
01:23:37,486 --> 01:23:39,486
>> okay.

2563
01:23:40,290 --> 01:23:41,190
>> so let's go onto the last

2564
01:23:41,190 --> 01:23:43,190
case, please.

2565
01:23:46,929 --> 01:23:49,329
>> case 26-000757 alachua county

2566
01:23:49,332 --> 01:23:51,332
versus clay lawrence.

2567
01:23:51,434 --> 01:23:51,701
>> is MR. Lawrence here, clay

2568
01:23:51,701 --> 01:23:53,236
lawrence?

2569
01:23:53,236 --> 01:23:53,570
Is it lawrence clay?

2570
01:23:53,570 --> 01:23:54,971
>> yes, sir.

2571
01:23:54,971 --> 01:23:56,472
>> I think because they always

2572
01:23:56,472 --> 01:23:56,773
put it backwards for me.

2573
01:23:56,773 --> 01:23:57,974
>> mm-hmm.

2574
01:23:57,974 --> 01:23:58,808
>> so please state your name for

2575
01:23:58,808 --> 01:24:00,710
the record.

2576
01:24:00,710 --> 01:24:01,444
>> lawrence clay.

2577
01:24:01,444 --> 01:24:04,470
>> okay, and you heard so it's

2578
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:06,716
your opportunity to tell me you

2579
01:24:06,716 --> 01:24:07,784
know, what you spent, hardship.

2580
01:24:07,784 --> 01:24:09,119
>> basically I was unaware of

2581
01:24:09,119 --> 01:24:10,520
what was going on because I live

2582
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,520
in orlando.

2583
01:24:12,789 --> 01:24:15,792
And so by the time I found out

2584
01:24:15,792 --> 01:24:19,930
which is I think four weeks go,

2585
01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:20,730
I can't remember exactly, I

2586
01:24:20,730 --> 01:24:22,199
contacted nathasha and she gave

2587
01:24:22,199 --> 01:24:23,266
me instructions on what I needed

2588
01:24:23,266 --> 01:24:25,234
to do 72

2589
01:24:25,234 --> 01:24:26,402
.

2590
01:24:26,402 --> 01:24:28,104
>> so do you rent the property?

2591
01:24:28,104 --> 01:24:30,104
>> I own it.

2592
01:24:30,273 --> 01:24:31,600
So but it is my residence but

2593
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,600
again I've been living in

2594
01:24:34,911 --> 01:24:36,279
orlando for the last year and I

2595
01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:37,647
haven't been there at all.

2596
01:24:37,647 --> 01:24:38,515
>> how did the material

2597
01:24:38,515 --> 01:24:40,490
accumulate and stuff?

2598
01:24:40,490 --> 01:24:41,484
>> well the lawn care guy wasn't

2599
01:24:41,484 --> 01:24:43,387
coming out and then I had some

2600
01:24:43,387 --> 01:24:45,756
vehicles that were there.

2601
01:24:45,756 --> 01:24:47,523
that were there for so long that

2602
01:24:47,523 --> 01:24:49,523
they didn't start.

2603
01:24:51,194 --> 01:24:53,830
So she told me I had to kind of

2604
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:54,865
like either if they can't get

2605
01:24:54,865 --> 01:24:56,133
started, or moved, I'm sorry, I

2606
01:24:56,133 --> 01:24:58,502
have to remove them.

2607
01:24:58,502 --> 01:25:01,738
So what I did is I had them

2608
01:25:01,738 --> 01:25:03,400
towed, I had a bus, 40 feet I

2609
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,142
had that towed away.

2610
01:25:05,142 --> 01:25:05,942
Then I had the cars towed away

2611
01:25:05,942 --> 01:25:06,476
as well to satisfy what she

2612
01:25:06,476 --> 01:25:08,378
wanted to do.

2613
01:25:08,378 --> 01:25:10,447
I did send the maintenance guy

2614
01:25:10,447 --> 01:25:11,447
out there to clean everything up

2615
01:25:11,447 --> 01:25:12,248
like you're supposed to.

2616
01:25:12,248 --> 01:25:14,248
And then --

2617
01:25:14,785 --> 01:25:16,530
>> you're in compliance now.

2618
01:25:16,530 --> 01:25:16,686
You wouldn't be here if you

2619
01:25:16,686 --> 01:25:17,387
weren't in compliance.

2620
01:25:17,387 --> 01:25:18,622
It's a requirement.

2621
01:25:18,622 --> 01:25:20,323
>> I sent him out and she went

2622
01:25:20,323 --> 01:25:20,991
out and looked and said he

2623
01:25:20,991 --> 01:25:21,492
didn't do this.

2624
01:25:21,492 --> 01:25:23,394
Oh, GOD.

2625
01:25:23,394 --> 01:25:25,290
So I sent him out again to dleen

2626
01:25:25,290 --> 01:25:26,863
clean the yard and he cleaned

2627
01:25:26,863 --> 01:25:28,198
the yard and got everything into

2628
01:25:28,198 --> 01:25:28,364
compliance so we're good to go

2629
01:25:28,364 --> 01:25:29,660
now.

2630
01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:31,234
>> okay so what are you looking

2631
01:25:31,234 --> 01:25:32,235
for in terms of reduction.

2632
01:25:32,235 --> 01:25:33,937
>> looking for 99% reduction

2633
01:25:33,937 --> 01:25:34,872
because I got the place up in

2634
01:25:34,872 --> 01:25:36,106
great standard.

2635
01:25:36,106 --> 01:25:37,508
And I didn't know.

2636
01:25:37,508 --> 01:25:38,742
If I had known I would've

2637
01:25:38,742 --> 01:25:39,510
definitely have made sure that

2638
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:41,845
everything was done right.

2639
01:25:41,845 --> 01:25:44,281
I was just under assumption

2640
01:25:44,281 --> 01:25:48,219
since I own cars that they don't

2641
01:25:48,219 --> 01:25:49,854
need to be started.

2642
01:25:49,854 --> 01:25:51,550
So because on private property

2643
01:25:51,550 --> 01:25:52,560
but she corrected me and let me

2644
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:52,322
know that's not the case.

2645
01:25:52,322 --> 01:25:53,958
>> okay.

2646
01:25:53,958 --> 01:25:56,270
The county have a position?

2647
01:25:56,270 --> 01:25:58,195
>> yes, for the record, my name

2648
01:25:58,195 --> 01:25:58,429
is nathasha washington, code

2649
01:25:58,429 --> 01:25:59,964
officer.

2650
01:25:59,964 --> 01:26:02,233
I have discussed this with my

2651
01:26:02,233 --> 01:26:04,367
director and code administration

2652
01:26:04,367 --> 01:26:05,603
department, and we're asking as

2653
01:26:05,603 --> 01:26:08,603
opposed to reduction of fines,

2654
01:26:10,842 --> 01:26:13,842
total fines of 36 -- 6,300 and

2655
01:26:21,586 --> 01:26:21,885
we're asking no less than 25%.

2656
01:26:21,885 --> 01:26:23,885
>> county.

2657
01:26:24,789 --> 01:26:26,789
You're asking for 99%.

2658
01:26:26,991 --> 01:26:29,927
All right, well, I'll take the

2659
01:26:29,927 --> 01:26:30,828
under consideration and make --

2660
01:26:30,828 --> 01:26:31,528
take it under consideration and

2661
01:26:31,528 --> 01:26:33,528
make a decision.

2662
01:26:33,731 --> 01:26:34,632
>> can I say something else?

2663
01:26:34,632 --> 01:26:36,401
>> in general I have had from

2664
01:26:36,401 --> 01:26:39,270
the time I spoke to her, it's

2665
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:40,104
been about I think 20 to 30 days

2666
01:26:40,104 --> 01:26:42,406
ago, which would normally I

2667
01:26:42,406 --> 01:26:44,750
would be allowed 30 days to fix

2668
01:26:44,750 --> 01:26:46,900
things, I fixed things within

2669
01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:48,900
that 30-day period.

2670
01:26:48,460 --> 01:26:48,279
Of me knowing what was going

2671
01:26:48,279 --> 01:26:49,480
on.

2672
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:51,282
I did not know it was going on

2673
01:26:51,282 --> 01:26:53,518
so 30-day period to me is

2674
01:26:53,518 --> 01:26:54,652
reasonable to me have done and

2675
01:26:54,652 --> 01:26:55,886
followed up with her and

2676
01:26:55,886 --> 01:26:57,922
followed up with e-mails, phone

2677
01:26:57,922 --> 01:26:59,991
calls, called her boss, so I did

2678
01:26:59,991 --> 01:27:00,258
the things I needed to do to set

2679
01:27:00,258 --> 01:27:02,258
up.

2680
01:27:02,526 --> 01:27:04,926
Because my financial distress

2681
01:27:06,631 --> 01:27:07,232
right now of my real estate

2682
01:27:07,232 --> 01:27:10,232
properties as far as rentals

2683
01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:13,471
have gone down, literally I have

2684
01:27:13,471 --> 01:27:16,471
eight vacancies, right, and my

2685
01:27:17,108 --> 01:27:19,177
rental rates now are like

2686
01:27:19,177 --> 01:27:21,245
probably like 30% less of what

2687
01:27:21,245 --> 01:27:23,181
they were before someone took

2688
01:27:23,181 --> 01:27:25,750
office year and a half ago.

2689
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:25,984
So financially I'm really

2690
01:27:25,984 --> 01:27:26,651
hurting.

2691
01:27:26,651 --> 01:27:27,419
>> okay, all right.

2692
01:27:27,419 --> 01:27:29,200
Thank you for that.

2693
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,122
I'll take that into

2694
01:27:31,122 --> 01:27:31,423
consideration.

2695
01:27:31,423 --> 01:27:31,790
>> yeah.

2696
01:27:31,790 --> 01:27:33,790
>> all right.

2697
01:27:34,626 --> 01:27:35,827
Any other cases?

2698
01:27:35,827 --> 01:27:36,940
No?

2699
01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:37,620
All right.

2700
01:27:37,620 --> 01:27:39,462
Well that'll conclude this.

2701
01:27:39,597 --> 01:27:42,567
anything else from the county?

2702
01:27:42,567 --> 01:27:43,735
>> only as far as, were you sell

2703
01:27:43,735 --> 01:27:45,203
this property?

2704
01:27:45,203 --> 01:27:46,604
>> it's not for sale.

2705
01:27:46,604 --> 01:27:48,807
>> he has other properties he

2706
01:27:48,807 --> 01:27:50,800
was referring to.

2707
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:51,420
>>> I'm correct, you had other

2708
01:27:51,420 --> 01:27:51,810
rental properties?

2709
01:27:51,810 --> 01:27:53,979
>> yes, and I do want to say in

2710
01:27:53,979 --> 01:27:56,181
his defense, that he did as far

2711
01:27:56,181 --> 01:27:57,248
as once he did get the notices

2712
01:27:57,248 --> 01:28:00,284
as far as that was posted on the

2713
01:28:00,284 --> 01:28:01,987
property, he did an awesome job

2714
01:28:01,987 --> 01:28:02,254
as far as correcting it.

2715
01:28:02,254 --> 01:28:03,210
>> okay.

2716
01:28:03,210 --> 01:28:04,220
>> thank you.

2717
01:28:04,220 --> 01:28:04,523
>> mm-hmm.

2718
01:28:04,523 --> 01:28:06,523
All right.

2719
01:28:06,524 --> 01:28:09,524
We'll conclude this hearing at