1 00:00:02,781 --> 00:00:04,149 test test test test test. 2 00:00:04,149 --> 00:00:05,116 >> chair: we are going to call 3 00:00:05,116 --> 00:00:06,751 this meeting to order. 4 00:00:06,751 --> 00:00:08,553 Okay. 5 00:00:08,553 --> 00:00:12,153 >> and I know there's one we 6 00:00:15,127 --> 00:00:15,827 need a -- there was one we need 7 00:00:15,827 --> 00:00:17,827 a supermajority on. 8 00:00:17,863 --> 00:00:18,563 I was in your seat, but 9 00:00:18,563 --> 00:00:19,865 commissioner cornell is about 10 00:00:19,865 --> 00:00:22,330 five minutes out, so we're going 11 00:00:22,330 --> 00:00:22,267 to get started f. We need to go 12 00:00:22,267 --> 00:00:23,368 slowly. 13 00:00:23,368 --> 00:00:24,469 >> chair: we'll go slow. 14 00:00:24,469 --> 00:00:26,637 >> well, I guess, we have four 15 00:00:26,637 --> 00:00:27,939 people here, so we would need a 16 00:00:27,939 --> 00:00:28,228 unanimous if he is not in the 17 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:29,374 room. 18 00:00:29,374 --> 00:00:30,142 >> chair: okay. 19 00:00:30,142 --> 00:00:31,976 All right. 20 00:00:31,976 --> 00:00:33,478 Welcome back, everyone. 21 00:00:33,478 --> 00:00:34,790 The alachua county board of 22 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:35,747 county commissioners convenes 23 00:00:35,747 --> 00:00:36,148 this public hearing on the 24 00:00:36,148 --> 00:00:38,148 alachua 25 00:00:38,784 --> 00:00:40,784 alachua county 2027 26 00:00:41,186 --> 00:00:41,920 proposed miltage rates and 27 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,855 representative budget as 28 00:00:43,855 --> 00:00:46,255 required by florida statutes 129 29 00:00:46,357 --> 00:00:48,426 and 200 and as advertided in our 30 00:00:48,426 --> 00:00:50,826 truth in millage notices. 31 00:00:50,963 --> 00:00:52,364 If anyone is here for the 32 00:00:52,364 --> 00:00:54,566 purpose of contesting their 33 00:00:54,566 --> 00:00:57,202 assessment, a petition shall be 34 00:00:57,202 --> 00:00:57,569 filed by 5:00 P.M. 35 00:00:57,569 --> 00:00:58,504 SEPTEMBER 14th. 36 00:00:58,504 --> 00:01:00,672 >> we jump ahead to the budget. 37 00:01:00,672 --> 00:01:01,774 We need to do the assessments 38 00:01:01,774 --> 00:01:02,441 first. 39 00:01:02,441 --> 00:01:03,108 I'm sorry. 40 00:01:03,108 --> 00:01:04,743 >> chair: that's the only thing 41 00:01:04,743 --> 00:01:05,844 I have. 42 00:01:05,844 --> 00:01:06,450 I'm reading what I have been 43 00:01:06,450 --> 00:01:08,450 given. 44 00:01:09,915 --> 00:01:14,115 >> the first item is going to be 45 00:01:15,154 --> 00:01:15,821 the fiscal year 2027 fire 46 00:01:15,821 --> 00:01:16,822 services non-ad valorem 47 00:01:16,822 --> 00:01:17,122 assessment final rate 48 00:01:17,122 --> 00:01:18,123 resolution. 49 00:01:18,123 --> 00:01:18,724 >> that was good information. 50 00:01:18,724 --> 00:01:19,758 >> chair: good information. 51 00:01:19,758 --> 00:01:23,950 >> now he is going to have to 52 00:01:23,950 --> 00:01:24,263 read the script. 53 00:01:24,263 --> 00:01:25,998 >> MADAM Chair, this is the 54 00:01:25,998 --> 00:01:27,733 fires services non-ad valorem 55 00:01:27,733 --> 00:01:30,133 services assessment final rate 56 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:33,470 resolution. 57 00:01:33,973 --> 00:01:36,973 Existing rate that we have. 58 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:40,310 Tier 1 is 132.47 per parcel. 59 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,414 Tier 2 is $7.28 per equivalent 60 00:01:42,414 --> 00:01:44,414 benefit unit. 61 00:01:51,390 --> 00:01:52,240 The fy '26-27 expected revenue 62 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 is 24,420,271. 63 00:01:55,761 --> 00:01:58,831 We would recommend you adopt the 64 00:01:58,831 --> 00:02:01,831 fire service service rate for 65 00:02:02,101 --> 00:02:03,736 26-27 and authorize the chair to 66 00:02:03,736 --> 00:02:05,370 forward the roll to the tax 67 00:02:05,370 --> 00:02:06,672 collector. 68 00:02:06,672 --> 00:02:08,474 >> MADAM Chair? 69 00:02:08,474 --> 00:02:08,708 >> chair: I thought you said the 70 00:02:08,708 --> 00:02:09,675 motion. 71 00:02:09,675 --> 00:02:10,743 >> yeah, no, you 72 00:02:10,743 --> 00:02:11,344 I was going to 73 00:02:11,344 --> 00:02:12,778 say the motion. 74 00:02:12,778 --> 00:02:15,810 All right, I move that we adopt 75 00:02:15,810 --> 00:02:16,515 the fire assessment final fire 76 00:02:16,515 --> 00:02:18,818 service final assessment rate 77 00:02:18,818 --> 00:02:19,686 resolution for fiscal year 78 00:02:19,686 --> 00:02:22,155 2026-27 and authorize the chair 79 00:02:22,155 --> 00:02:22,721 to certify the non-ad valorem 80 00:02:22,721 --> 00:02:23,656 assessment roll to the tax 81 00:02:23,656 --> 00:02:23,956 collector. 82 00:02:23,956 --> 00:02:24,657 >> second. 83 00:02:24,657 --> 00:02:25,391 >> chair: okay, we have a motion 84 00:02:25,391 --> 00:02:26,726 and a second. 85 00:02:26,726 --> 00:02:28,127 Do we have any comments on the 86 00:02:28,127 --> 00:02:28,461 fire services non-ad valorem 87 00:02:28,461 --> 00:02:29,295 assessment? 88 00:02:29,295 --> 00:02:31,295 Please come forward. 89 00:02:31,297 --> 00:02:34,767 State your name and you'll have 90 00:02:34,767 --> 00:02:36,269 up to three minutes. 91 00:02:36,269 --> 00:02:38,269 >> james carington. 92 00:02:41,507 --> 00:02:44,144 I live here at 10015 northwest 93 00:02:44,144 --> 00:02:46,450 52nd terrace, gainesville, 94 00:02:46,450 --> 00:02:48,450 florida, 32653. 95 00:02:48,214 --> 00:02:48,981 I definitely am a fan of the 96 00:02:48,981 --> 00:02:50,981 fire department. 97 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,319 Watching so many issues 98 00:02:56,856 --> 00:02:58,825 especially with 9/11 coming so 99 00:02:58,825 --> 00:03:01,825 shortly after -- I mean, 25 100 00:03:02,796 --> 00:03:05,298 years or whatever is, you know, 101 00:03:05,298 --> 00:03:06,166 i want to thank all our 102 00:03:06,166 --> 00:03:08,166 firefighters and emergency 103 00:03:08,502 --> 00:03:10,502 medical people. 104 00:03:12,839 --> 00:03:14,274 But I do want to make the 105 00:03:14,274 --> 00:03:17,874 commission aware that we need a 106 00:03:18,545 --> 00:03:21,545 better way than just assessing 107 00:03:22,482 --> 00:03:24,482 homeowners, fire protection. 108 00:03:25,786 --> 00:03:29,156 I've never seen a fire hose even 109 00:03:29,156 --> 00:03:32,756 to empty the fire hydrants at 110 00:03:33,193 --> 00:03:35,595 brook point where I live. 111 00:03:35,595 --> 00:03:38,665 A fire truck comes out there 112 00:03:38,665 --> 00:03:40,100 when an emergency medical person 113 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:41,868 ask needed. 114 00:03:41,868 --> 00:03:43,370 -- is needed, but it doesn't 115 00:03:43,370 --> 00:03:47,570 seem to ever come out there for 116 00:03:48,442 --> 00:03:51,442 any other reasons in the 29 117 00:03:54,448 --> 00:03:57,448 years that I've lived there. 118 00:03:58,519 --> 00:04:01,519 So the simply put, the 119 00:04:01,989 --> 00:04:03,724 assessment is not -- we can 120 00:04:03,724 --> 00:04:05,926 afford it out there. 121 00:04:05,926 --> 00:04:08,329 I like paying my taxes. 122 00:04:08,329 --> 00:04:11,198 It needs to be done. 123 00:04:11,198 --> 00:04:15,398 But now my problem is is that 124 00:04:15,669 --> 00:04:16,704 all of us is that's an old 125 00:04:16,704 --> 00:04:18,704 community. 126 00:04:18,972 --> 00:04:20,972 Nobody's working anymore. 127 00:04:22,409 --> 00:04:25,409 And this assessment is what? 128 00:04:25,579 --> 00:04:27,881 33% higher than last year's? 129 00:04:27,881 --> 00:04:30,384 Do we know what this is. 130 00:04:30,384 --> 00:04:31,485 >> it's staying the same? 131 00:04:31,485 --> 00:04:32,786 >> huh? 132 00:04:32,786 --> 00:04:34,321 >> it's remaining the same as 133 00:04:34,321 --> 00:04:34,588 last year. 134 00:04:34,588 --> 00:04:36,588 >> $644? 135 00:04:41,562 --> 00:04:43,431 >> it's remaining the same. 136 00:04:43,431 --> 00:04:45,599 >> it MAY be also a valuation 137 00:04:45,599 --> 00:04:46,300 because our assessment is based 138 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:47,467 on value. 139 00:04:47,467 --> 00:04:48,869 You have tier 1 -- 140 00:04:48,869 --> 00:04:49,870 >> chair: right, the property 141 00:04:49,870 --> 00:04:50,938 appraiser MAY have increased the 142 00:04:50,938 --> 00:04:52,673 value of your home, which 143 00:04:52,673 --> 00:04:53,774 increases your EBUs but we 144 00:04:53,774 --> 00:04:54,909 have not had 145 00:04:54,909 --> 00:04:55,910 increased the taxes 146 00:04:55,910 --> 00:04:57,612 at all. 147 00:04:57,612 --> 00:04:59,914 >> okay, that's a good way and 148 00:04:59,914 --> 00:05:02,984 that's how we've juggled it all 149 00:05:02,984 --> 00:05:03,951 along property appraisers with 150 00:05:03,951 --> 00:05:05,286 taxes -- millage rates we could 151 00:05:05,286 --> 00:05:06,821 never get those straight and 152 00:05:06,821 --> 00:05:07,194 still haven't gotten them 153 00:05:07,194 --> 00:05:09,194 straight. 154 00:05:10,725 --> 00:05:12,590 But simply it's too much. 155 00:05:12,590 --> 00:05:14,590 Thank you. 156 00:05:14,262 --> 00:05:16,262 >> chair: thank you. 157 00:05:19,566 --> 00:05:21,335 Any other comments? 158 00:05:21,335 --> 00:05:23,104 >> MADAM Chair, jim konish. 159 00:05:23,104 --> 00:05:25,172 I'm an expert in florida 160 00:05:25,172 --> 00:05:27,572 taxation and utility law. 161 00:05:27,809 --> 00:05:31,409 You had a press release trying 162 00:05:31,646 --> 00:05:33,470 to duck the commotion caused by 163 00:05:33,470 --> 00:05:35,150 gru jacking their fire 164 00:05:35,150 --> 00:05:37,415 assessment up simultaneous with 165 00:05:37,652 --> 00:05:39,286 shifting stormwater and solid 166 00:05:39,286 --> 00:05:39,621 waste off the gru bill onto the 167 00:05:39,621 --> 00:05:40,388 trim notices. 168 00:05:40,388 --> 00:05:41,589 >> this is for the fire 169 00:05:41,589 --> 00:05:43,358 assessment though. 170 00:05:43,358 --> 00:05:44,359 >> yes but you have been 171 00:05:44,359 --> 00:05:46,759 differentiating your flat lining 172 00:05:46,761 --> 00:05:48,960 of all these fees from that. 173 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,397 Because people blame you for 174 00:05:49,397 --> 00:05:50,498 that as you know. 175 00:05:50,498 --> 00:05:51,320 Your blame for what goes on in 176 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,300 the municipality. 177 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:54,536 I just want to make a note of 178 00:05:54,536 --> 00:05:57,471 the simple fact out there. 179 00:05:57,471 --> 00:06:01,710 Now, in with the trim notice, 180 00:06:02,110 --> 00:06:02,410 you talk about hardship 181 00:06:02,410 --> 00:06:03,444 assistance. 182 00:06:03,444 --> 00:06:06,181 But you don't give any, and let 183 00:06:06,181 --> 00:06:07,315 me explain why. 184 00:06:07,315 --> 00:06:09,117 In the alachua county code, you 185 00:06:09,117 --> 00:06:11,219 have a number of sections that 186 00:06:11,219 --> 00:06:11,619 provide for hardship 187 00:06:11,619 --> 00:06:13,488 assistance. 188 00:06:13,488 --> 00:06:13,722 The applicant must apply every 189 00:06:13,722 --> 00:06:15,356 year. 190 00:06:15,356 --> 00:06:17,492 It's administered by the alachua 191 00:06:17,492 --> 00:06:18,426 county department of community 192 00:06:18,426 --> 00:06:20,280 support services, there's no one 193 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:20,328 in the office out by the health 194 00:06:20,328 --> 00:06:21,229 department. 195 00:06:21,229 --> 00:06:23,229 It's abandoned. 196 00:06:23,597 --> 00:06:25,320 And there's some at home workers 197 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,568 that maybe can get through to 198 00:06:27,568 --> 00:06:27,769 them and maybe you can't. 199 00:06:27,769 --> 00:06:29,769 Ma'am. 200 00:06:30,205 --> 00:06:32,707 It's not funny because people 201 00:06:32,707 --> 00:06:34,910 may lose their homes over these 202 00:06:34,910 --> 00:06:36,910 non-ad valorem assessments. 203 00:06:38,313 --> 00:06:41,250 Now, the form you need to get 204 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:41,482 this assistance is not available 205 00:06:41,482 --> 00:06:43,482 online. 206 00:06:44,318 --> 00:06:45,854 And when you ask for it, they 207 00:06:45,854 --> 00:06:48,356 kind of imply that they -- that 208 00:06:48,356 --> 00:06:49,458 you have to prove you're a 209 00:06:49,458 --> 00:06:52,527 homestead owner to get it which 210 00:06:52,527 --> 00:06:53,162 is a flagrant violation of the 211 00:06:53,162 --> 00:06:55,162 public records law. 212 00:06:55,998 --> 00:06:57,666 I did get a form emailed today 213 00:06:57,666 --> 00:06:58,466 but they don't make them readily 214 00:06:58,466 --> 00:07:00,866 available because they don't 215 00:07:01,770 --> 00:07:03,370 want anyone to have the help. 216 00:07:03,370 --> 00:07:06,370 Few important things to note. 217 00:07:06,575 --> 00:07:09,575 Number one, the same standards 218 00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:12,348 apply to all four non-ad valorem 219 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:15,348 assessments so if you qualify 220 00:07:15,551 --> 00:07:17,951 for fire, you automatically 221 00:07:19,822 --> 00:07:20,789 qualify for the whole suite of 222 00:07:20,789 --> 00:07:22,789 four non-ad valorem 223 00:07:23,993 --> 00:07:25,993 assessments. 224 00:07:26,428 --> 00:07:27,663 Moreover, there really is no 225 00:07:27,663 --> 00:07:30,566 deadline because at anytime in 226 00:07:30,566 --> 00:07:32,601 the year you can apply for the 227 00:07:32,601 --> 00:07:34,436 next year and if you get it, it 228 00:07:34,436 --> 00:07:35,704 there is a way to force the tax 229 00:07:35,704 --> 00:07:37,600 collector to take the money away 230 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,542 from you and give it back to the 231 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:39,842 property owner going back three 232 00:07:39,842 --> 00:07:41,842 years. 233 00:07:41,944 --> 00:07:45,347 So this whole thing there is 234 00:07:45,347 --> 00:07:47,916 some hard deadline to ask for 235 00:07:47,916 --> 00:07:50,916 hardship assistance is, is, is 236 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,720 misleading at the very minimum. 237 00:07:55,324 --> 00:07:57,393 So in the city of gainesville, 238 00:07:57,393 --> 00:07:59,394 16 people despite the huge 239 00:07:59,394 --> 00:08:00,529 increase in these non-ad valorem 240 00:08:00,529 --> 00:08:02,929 assessments have qualified so 241 00:08:02,931 --> 00:08:03,165 far. 242 00:08:03,165 --> 00:08:05,101 16. 243 00:08:05,101 --> 00:08:07,836 So I will be talking about this 244 00:08:07,836 --> 00:08:08,938 matter with respect to all your 245 00:08:08,938 --> 00:08:10,606 non-ad valorem assessments to 246 00:08:10,606 --> 00:08:14,206 try to explain to people what 247 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:15,845 these things are, you don't 248 00:08:15,845 --> 00:08:16,712 dispute it with the value 249 00:08:16,712 --> 00:08:18,712 adjustment board. 250 00:08:20,349 --> 00:08:21,851 You dispute it with the unit of 251 00:08:21,851 --> 00:08:22,484 government imposing the non-ad 252 00:08:22,484 --> 00:08:23,953 valorem assessment. 253 00:08:23,953 --> 00:08:24,186 That's a totally different 254 00:08:24,186 --> 00:08:24,687 process. 255 00:08:24,687 --> 00:08:25,355 >> chair: thank you. 256 00:08:25,355 --> 00:08:25,989 >> thank you. 257 00:08:25,989 --> 00:08:26,856 >> chair: I'll pass the gavel 258 00:08:26,856 --> 00:08:28,856 back to you. 259 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:29,459 We are on the non-ad valorem 260 00:08:29,459 --> 00:08:30,193 fire assessment. 261 00:08:30,193 --> 00:08:32,280 We have a motion on the floor. 262 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,695 And that was public comment. 263 00:08:32,695 --> 00:08:34,897 We're closing public comment, 264 00:08:34,897 --> 00:08:35,298 and we will move it back to the 265 00:08:35,298 --> 00:08:35,698 board. 266 00:08:35,698 --> 00:08:36,733 >> chair: okay. 267 00:08:36,733 --> 00:08:38,535 Any further discussion? 268 00:08:38,535 --> 00:08:39,636 All those in favor, say aye. 269 00:08:39,636 --> 00:08:41,337 Any opposed? 270 00:08:41,337 --> 00:08:41,704 Motion passes. 271 00:08:41,704 --> 00:08:42,400 Unanimously. 272 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Okay. 273 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:45,408 MR. Clerk, next item. 274 00:08:45,408 --> 00:08:47,420 >> MR. Chair up next is in 275 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:48,477 fiscal year '27 solid waste 276 00:08:48,477 --> 00:08:49,646 non-ad valorem same final rate 277 00:08:49,646 --> 00:08:50,980 resolution and the recommended 278 00:08:50,980 --> 00:08:53,183 action is to adopt the solid 279 00:08:53,183 --> 00:08:54,684 waste final assessment 280 00:08:54,684 --> 00:08:55,118 resolution for fiscal year 281 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:56,253 26-27. 282 00:08:56,253 --> 00:08:57,987 And authorize chair to certify 283 00:08:57,987 --> 00:08:59,623 the solid waste non-ad valorem 284 00:08:59,623 --> 00:08:59,889 assessment roll to the tax 285 00:08:59,889 --> 00:09:00,923 collector. 286 00:09:00,923 --> 00:09:01,691 >> chair: okay and the solid 287 00:09:01,691 --> 00:09:03,793 waste rates will re main the 288 00:09:03,793 --> 00:09:04,661 same again and go ahead, you're 289 00:09:04,661 --> 00:09:05,428 recognized. 290 00:09:05,428 --> 00:09:07,497 >> MR. Chair, as you said, the 291 00:09:07,497 --> 00:09:08,365 solid waste will remain the 292 00:09:08,365 --> 00:09:10,765 same, approving the waste 293 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:11,801 assessment rates for fiscal year 294 00:09:11,801 --> 00:09:15,272 26-27 will allow the county to 295 00:09:15,272 --> 00:09:15,872 collect approximately 296 00:09:15,872 --> 00:09:16,940 $13 million in non-ad valorem 297 00:09:16,940 --> 00:09:18,608 assessments to fund the 298 00:09:18,608 --> 00:09:20,100 universal curbside collection 299 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:21,311 rural collection center, and 300 00:09:21,311 --> 00:09:22,946 solid waste management 301 00:09:22,946 --> 00:09:24,946 programs. 302 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,783 And you have the breakout based 303 00:09:26,783 --> 00:09:27,216 upon the accounts that are 304 00:09:27,216 --> 00:09:29,216 there. 305 00:09:30,620 --> 00:09:31,688 Staff is recommending approval 306 00:09:31,688 --> 00:09:34,224 adopting of the resolution and 307 00:09:34,224 --> 00:09:35,859 authorizing the chair to certify 308 00:09:35,859 --> 00:09:36,125 the assessment roll to the tax 309 00:09:36,125 --> 00:09:38,125 collector. 310 00:09:38,161 --> 00:09:38,462 >> so moved. 311 00:09:38,462 --> 00:09:39,463 >> second. 312 00:09:39,463 --> 00:09:41,765 >> chair: got a motion and a 313 00:09:41,765 --> 00:09:41,965 second to adopt the solid 314 00:09:41,965 --> 00:09:42,332 waste. 315 00:09:42,332 --> 00:09:43,533 Any discussion? 316 00:09:43,533 --> 00:09:44,167 Any public discussion on this 317 00:09:44,167 --> 00:09:46,167 item? 318 00:09:46,570 --> 00:09:48,970 MR. Konish, welcome back. 319 00:09:49,106 --> 00:09:51,842 >>> sir, I would reiterate again 320 00:09:51,842 --> 00:09:54,110 that all citizens are entitled 321 00:09:54,110 --> 00:09:57,514 at any time to apply for a 322 00:09:57,514 --> 00:09:58,181 hardship exemption from the 323 00:09:58,181 --> 00:09:59,149 stormwater non-ad valorem 324 00:09:59,149 --> 00:10:01,549 assessment, which will be 325 00:10:02,352 --> 00:10:03,754 combined with the ad valorem 326 00:10:03,754 --> 00:10:05,189 taxes, and if not paid could 327 00:10:05,189 --> 00:10:06,590 trigger sale of a tax 328 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:07,457 certificate and loss of your 329 00:10:07,457 --> 00:10:09,457 property, sir. 330 00:10:10,227 --> 00:10:12,627 There is a fundamental 331 00:10:12,896 --> 00:10:15,896 difference between an ad valorem 332 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:16,700 assessment and a non-ad valorem 333 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:18,368 assessment. 334 00:10:18,368 --> 00:10:21,368 The first difference is ad 335 00:10:21,705 --> 00:10:22,506 valorem assessments are based on 336 00:10:22,506 --> 00:10:24,441 value, non-ad valorem 337 00:10:24,441 --> 00:10:24,642 assessments are not based on 338 00:10:24,642 --> 00:10:26,642 value. 339 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:29,443 Ad valorem assessments are 340 00:10:30,647 --> 00:10:32,850 imposed by a taxing authority. 341 00:10:32,850 --> 00:10:35,250 Non-ad valorem assessments are 342 00:10:36,153 --> 00:10:36,486 imposed by a unit of city 343 00:10:36,486 --> 00:10:38,486 government. 344 00:10:39,256 --> 00:10:42,920 So to challenge that, you have 345 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,494 to go to public works handling 346 00:10:43,494 --> 00:10:45,494 solid waste. 347 00:10:45,562 --> 00:10:47,431 As a matter of fairness, if I'm 348 00:10:47,431 --> 00:10:50,431 paying for the rural collection 349 00:10:50,434 --> 00:10:53,804 center, and using it, I don't 350 00:10:53,804 --> 00:10:55,804 need curbside collection. 351 00:10:55,973 --> 00:10:59,844 so I don't think it serves any 352 00:10:59,844 --> 00:11:01,712 public purpose to have two solid 353 00:11:01,712 --> 00:11:04,215 waste assessments forcing you to 354 00:11:04,215 --> 00:11:06,617 have curbside collection on a 355 00:11:06,617 --> 00:11:08,617 second home. 356 00:11:09,486 --> 00:11:11,656 Like on the river. 357 00:11:11,656 --> 00:11:13,291 That's ridiculous. 358 00:11:13,291 --> 00:11:14,258 And that's exploitive. 359 00:11:14,258 --> 00:11:15,826 Thank you. 360 00:11:15,826 --> 00:11:16,260 >> chair: thank you, 361 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:16,694 MR. Konish. 362 00:11:16,694 --> 00:11:17,462 Anyone else? 363 00:11:17,462 --> 00:11:18,896 All right, back to the board, 364 00:11:18,896 --> 00:11:20,896 any further discussion? 365 00:11:21,499 --> 00:11:21,899 >> wait, we got another one. 366 00:11:21,899 --> 00:11:23,567 Another gentleman. 367 00:11:23,567 --> 00:11:23,801 >> chair: oh, yeah, please, come 368 00:11:23,801 --> 00:11:24,368 forward. 369 00:11:24,368 --> 00:11:26,368 Introduce yourself. 370 00:11:28,306 --> 00:11:29,640 >> james carington, 10015 371 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,640 northwest 52nd terrace, 372 00:11:33,778 --> 00:11:35,778 gainesville, florida. 373 00:11:37,949 --> 00:11:40,949 Again, my neighborhood and where 374 00:11:41,452 --> 00:11:44,289 I live which is city of alachua 375 00:11:44,289 --> 00:11:46,240 although it's a gainesville 376 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,226 address, does a wonderful job of 377 00:11:49,226 --> 00:11:52,226 picking up our solid waste. 378 00:11:53,465 --> 00:11:55,967 I'm not sure that any of my 379 00:11:55,967 --> 00:11:58,836 neighbors even know where there 380 00:11:58,836 --> 00:11:59,700 is solid waste collection 381 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:01,700 center. 382 00:12:01,239 --> 00:12:03,700 I think the rate needs to be 383 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,700 based on something other than 384 00:12:06,645 --> 00:12:09,481 just across the board simply 385 00:12:09,481 --> 00:12:10,415 put, everybody's going to pay 386 00:12:10,415 --> 00:12:12,415 for it. 387 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,619 We can certainly afford it, and 388 00:12:14,619 --> 00:12:16,587 we'll continue to pay for it if 389 00:12:16,587 --> 00:12:20,187 that's what you vote on, but 390 00:12:21,393 --> 00:12:24,290 there needs to be a greater look 391 00:12:24,290 --> 00:12:24,262 into this than just passing it 392 00:12:24,262 --> 00:12:24,896 simply. 393 00:12:24,896 --> 00:12:26,330 Thank you. 394 00:12:26,330 --> 00:12:28,330 >> chair: thank you. 395 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Anyone else? 396 00:12:31,570 --> 00:12:33,638 Going once, going twice, bring 397 00:12:33,638 --> 00:12:35,406 it back to the board. 398 00:12:35,406 --> 00:12:37,142 Any discussion by the board? 399 00:12:37,142 --> 00:12:37,476 All in favor, aye. 400 00:12:37,476 --> 00:12:38,343 Opposed? 401 00:12:38,343 --> 00:12:39,440 ken cornell is back in the 402 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:39,244 room. 403 00:12:39,244 --> 00:12:40,644 Okay. 404 00:12:40,644 --> 00:12:42,847 Next item, MR. Clerk. 405 00:12:42,847 --> 00:12:43,415 >> MR. Chair, the fiscal 2027 406 00:12:43,415 --> 00:12:44,817 stormwater non-ad valorem 407 00:12:44,817 --> 00:12:45,817 assessment final rate resolution 408 00:12:45,817 --> 00:12:47,119 adoption hearing. 409 00:12:47,119 --> 00:12:48,686 And the recommended action is to 410 00:12:48,686 --> 00:12:50,880 adopt the stormwater final 411 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,488 assessment resolution for fiscal 412 00:12:52,624 --> 00:12:55,624 year 2026-27, and authorize the 413 00:12:55,794 --> 00:12:56,562 chair to certify the stormwater 414 00:12:56,562 --> 00:12:57,996 non-ad valorem assessment roll 415 00:12:57,996 --> 00:12:59,297 to the tax collector. 416 00:12:59,297 --> 00:13:00,320 >> so this one is the actual 417 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,600 stormwater assessment and again 418 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000 it remains the same. 419 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:08,710 You're recognized. 420 00:13:08,407 --> 00:13:09,908 >> the rate will remain at 421 00:13:09,908 --> 00:13:11,908 $60 per equivalent residential 422 00:13:12,211 --> 00:13:13,579 eunice, and will generate a mx 423 00:13:13,579 --> 00:13:15,800 maximum estimated of 424 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,915 $3.6 million in revenue. 425 00:13:16,915 --> 00:13:18,116 >> I move we adopt the 426 00:13:18,116 --> 00:13:20,116 stormwater final assessment 427 00:13:20,652 --> 00:13:21,754 resolution for fiscal year 428 00:13:21,754 --> 00:13:24,590 2026-27 and authorize the chair 429 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:25,657 to certify the stormwater non-ad 430 00:13:25,657 --> 00:13:27,393 valorem assessment roll to the 431 00:13:27,393 --> 00:13:29,194 tax collector. 432 00:13:29,194 --> 00:13:29,428 >> chair: got a motion and a 433 00:13:29,428 --> 00:13:29,795 second. 434 00:13:29,795 --> 00:13:31,300 Any discussion? 435 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:34,533 All right, back to the public. 436 00:13:34,533 --> 00:13:35,734 MR. Konish, welcome back. 437 00:13:35,734 --> 00:13:37,802 >>> MR. Chair, I would like a 438 00:13:37,802 --> 00:13:38,236 little leeway to try to educate 439 00:13:38,236 --> 00:13:39,380 people. 440 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:40,239 >> you got three minutes, takes 441 00:13:40,239 --> 00:13:40,439 a much time as you need in 442 00:13:40,439 --> 00:13:41,940 that. 443 00:13:41,940 --> 00:13:44,376 >> so I'm going to -- with the 444 00:13:44,376 --> 00:13:45,377 city of gainesville, I'm 445 00:13:45,377 --> 00:13:47,377 challenging mine. 446 00:13:47,913 --> 00:13:49,215 And I expect -- I suggest 447 00:13:49,215 --> 00:13:51,817 everybody take a close look at 448 00:13:51,817 --> 00:13:53,817 what they're doing. 449 00:13:54,220 --> 00:13:56,870 They're quadruple the price at 450 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:58,290 $150 an e, u instead of 40 and 451 00:13:58,290 --> 00:13:59,691 their methodology is weak with 452 00:13:59,691 --> 00:14:02,328 respect to the duck pond and 453 00:14:02,328 --> 00:14:02,695 many other neighborhoods. 454 00:14:02,695 --> 00:14:04,695 Systematically. 455 00:14:05,397 --> 00:14:07,333 But it's important to note that 456 00:14:07,333 --> 00:14:09,333 stormwater is estimated. 457 00:14:11,837 --> 00:14:13,837 It's polluted. 458 00:14:14,774 --> 00:14:15,107 It's billed up front. 459 00:14:15,107 --> 00:14:16,676 Annually. 460 00:14:16,676 --> 00:14:19,760 Discount for early payment, 461 00:14:19,412 --> 00:14:21,412 penalties apply. 462 00:14:22,915 --> 00:14:24,116 As with the other four non-ad 463 00:14:24,116 --> 00:14:26,619 valorem assessments for fire and 464 00:14:26,619 --> 00:14:29,489 solid waste, other three for a 465 00:14:29,489 --> 00:14:29,756 total of four, there is hardship 466 00:14:29,756 --> 00:14:31,424 exemption. 467 00:14:31,424 --> 00:14:34,600 And usually when you get it for 468 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,620 fire, you get the whole suite 469 00:14:36,620 --> 00:14:37,696 that can be done anytime, and if 470 00:14:37,696 --> 00:14:38,430 it's wrong for next year, it was 471 00:14:38,430 --> 00:14:39,431 wrong probably for the last 472 00:14:39,431 --> 00:14:40,900 three years, and you can get 473 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:41,935 your money back. 474 00:14:41,935 --> 00:14:43,360 Believe it or not. 475 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:43,236 There is a mechanism to do 476 00:14:43,236 --> 00:14:44,504 that. 477 00:14:44,504 --> 00:14:46,272 And not that you would want 478 00:14:46,272 --> 00:14:48,341 anyone to do that because if 479 00:14:48,341 --> 00:14:49,641 that happens you have to pay it 480 00:14:49,641 --> 00:14:52,378 back out of general funds. 481 00:14:52,378 --> 00:14:53,713 So that's why you know these 482 00:14:53,713 --> 00:14:54,347 forms are not floating around. 483 00:14:54,347 --> 00:14:56,820 That's why you don't have 484 00:14:56,820 --> 00:14:57,884 someone when you're walking in 485 00:14:57,884 --> 00:14:59,519 the door offering you this 486 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:01,621 because you don't want to pay 487 00:15:01,621 --> 00:15:03,623 people stormwater, you'd rather 488 00:15:03,623 --> 00:15:05,892 them just eat it. 489 00:15:05,892 --> 00:15:07,961 If the city of gainesville, they 490 00:15:07,961 --> 00:15:09,162 estimate out of stormwater, 491 00:15:09,162 --> 00:15:09,930 tring they're going to 492 00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:11,531 generate -- they think they're 493 00:15:11,531 --> 00:15:13,931 going to generate $11.6 million 494 00:15:15,268 --> 00:15:17,236 and they estimate $1500 to 495 00:15:17,236 --> 00:15:19,236 $3,000 in hardship exemptions 496 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,943 and sir, it would be surprising 497 00:15:22,943 --> 00:15:23,910 to me if you surpassed these 498 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:25,910 numbers. 499 00:15:27,113 --> 00:15:29,513 Given how secret this 500 00:15:30,684 --> 00:15:31,884 statutorily mandated mechanism 501 00:15:31,884 --> 00:15:32,185 is because of your policies. 502 00:15:32,185 --> 00:15:32,919 Thank you. 503 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:33,220 >> chair: thank you, 504 00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:34,921 MR. Konish. 505 00:15:34,921 --> 00:15:36,122 So the city's getting a little 506 00:15:36,122 --> 00:15:36,689 preview of MR. Konish's comments 507 00:15:36,689 --> 00:15:38,658 on thursday. 508 00:15:38,658 --> 00:15:40,658 Ours is $3.6 million. 509 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:45,830 Next speaker, please. 510 00:15:47,167 --> 00:15:47,935 >> james carington, 10015 511 00:15:47,935 --> 00:15:49,269 northwest 52nd terrace, 512 00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:51,238 gainesville, florida. 513 00:15:51,238 --> 00:15:54,174 We in brook point don't pay for 514 00:15:54,174 --> 00:15:56,174 any stormwater runoff. 515 00:15:58,444 --> 00:16:00,414 And I'm just wondering, I 516 00:16:00,414 --> 00:16:03,414 wonder, I can't contribute to 517 00:16:04,151 --> 00:16:05,452 the taxing authority for our 518 00:16:05,452 --> 00:16:08,452 neighborhood, we all live on 519 00:16:08,756 --> 00:16:08,989 turkey creek or a branch 520 00:16:08,989 --> 00:16:09,456 thereof. 521 00:16:09,456 --> 00:16:09,856 >> chair: thank you. 522 00:16:09,856 --> 00:16:10,724 Thank you, sir. 523 00:16:10,724 --> 00:16:12,192 All right, anyone else? 524 00:16:12,192 --> 00:16:13,600 All right, back to the board. 525 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:13,293 Commissioner prizzia, do you 526 00:16:13,293 --> 00:16:14,694 have -- 527 00:16:14,694 --> 00:16:15,896 >> no, I just -- we do have our 528 00:16:15,896 --> 00:16:17,970 community support services 529 00:16:17,970 --> 00:16:19,660 office here, so I thought maybe 530 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:20,434 they could share with us their 531 00:16:20,434 --> 00:16:22,200 operating hours, when there are 532 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,136 people on site, and how people 533 00:16:23,136 --> 00:16:25,536 can access the hardship 534 00:16:27,708 --> 00:16:28,800 exemption form. 535 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,430 Recognized. 536 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:30,577 >> thank you, MR. Chair. 537 00:16:30,577 --> 00:16:32,790 Claudia tuck, director of 538 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:32,346 alachua county community support 539 00:16:32,346 --> 00:16:34,181 services. 540 00:16:34,181 --> 00:16:36,581 We are actually open 24/7 541 00:16:36,684 --> 00:16:38,118 effectively many of our programs 542 00:16:38,118 --> 00:16:39,860 operate we have residential 543 00:16:39,860 --> 00:16:41,550 program, we also have the crisis 544 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:42,656 center, and victim services that 545 00:16:42,656 --> 00:16:44,656 work after hours. 546 00:16:44,859 --> 00:16:46,560 We have 97 FTEs, and about 80 547 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,560 positions are filled. 548 00:16:48,963 --> 00:16:50,497 And most of the employees are in 549 00:16:50,497 --> 00:16:51,799 the office monday through friday 550 00:16:51,799 --> 00:16:52,766 8:30 to 5 oo clock. 551 00:16:52,766 --> 00:16:54,669 however, many of our staff are 552 00:16:54,669 --> 00:16:56,136 out in the field you know more 553 00:16:56,136 --> 00:16:57,605 than half of our social services 554 00:16:57,605 --> 00:17:00,410 staff are out in the field 555 00:17:00,410 --> 00:17:01,642 visiting clients. 556 00:17:01,642 --> 00:17:02,510 So it will varate times. 557 00:17:02,510 --> 00:17:03,711 >> chair: so folks -- if they 558 00:17:03,711 --> 00:17:03,978 want to request a hardship 559 00:17:03,978 --> 00:17:05,112 exemption. 560 00:17:05,112 --> 00:17:08,516 >> they do have to call and that 561 00:17:08,516 --> 00:17:09,183 are on wereobe site -- that's on 562 00:17:09,183 --> 00:17:11,183 our web site. 563 00:17:11,252 --> 00:17:13,721 Right now we're in the midst of 564 00:17:13,721 --> 00:17:15,923 making our forms ada compliant, 565 00:17:15,923 --> 00:17:17,592 that's one of them so that's why 566 00:17:17,592 --> 00:17:19,660 it's not online and we can go 567 00:17:19,660 --> 00:17:20,627 back several years. 568 00:17:20,627 --> 00:17:21,863 >> chair: gu u you 569 00:17:21,863 --> 00:17:22,630 gu -- you 570 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:23,397 good? 571 00:17:23,397 --> 00:17:25,397 Anything else? 572 00:17:25,666 --> 00:17:28,660 All in favor, aye. 573 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,737 Opposed that passes. 574 00:17:29,737 --> 00:17:31,672 >> MR. Chair, fiscal 2012 sugar 575 00:17:31,672 --> 00:17:33,241 to the oaks cedar ridge special 576 00:17:33,241 --> 00:17:35,641 districts for non-ad valorem 577 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:36,311 assessment rates adoption 578 00:17:36,311 --> 00:17:37,578 hearing. 579 00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:41,178 And had recommended action is to 580 00:17:43,952 --> 00:17:46,120 adopt the sugarfoot oaks cedar 581 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:47,488 ridge special assessment 582 00:17:47,488 --> 00:17:47,989 district final non-ad valorem 583 00:17:47,989 --> 00:17:48,756 assessment rate. 584 00:17:48,756 --> 00:17:49,757 >> we got a motion. 585 00:17:49,757 --> 00:17:51,757 And a second. 586 00:17:52,126 --> 00:17:53,928 Any further discussion? 587 00:17:53,928 --> 00:17:56,397 >> can I just see the gentleman 588 00:17:56,397 --> 00:17:57,332 in the back? 589 00:17:57,332 --> 00:17:58,266 Thank you. 590 00:17:58,266 --> 00:17:58,433 >> there he is, we appreciate 591 00:17:58,433 --> 00:17:59,567 you. 592 00:17:59,567 --> 00:18:00,668 All right, any public discussion 593 00:18:00,668 --> 00:18:01,469 to the sugarfoot? 594 00:18:01,469 --> 00:18:03,405 Back to the board. 595 00:18:03,405 --> 00:18:03,938 All those in favor, say aye. 596 00:18:03,938 --> 00:18:05,938 Any opposed? 597 00:18:08,109 --> 00:18:08,576 That motion is unanimous. 598 00:18:08,576 --> 00:18:09,310 >> chair: good job. 599 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:09,511 >> chair: okay, MR. Clerk, next 600 00:18:09,511 --> 00:18:11,511 iitm. 601 00:18:11,613 --> 00:18:13,248 >> that takes us to fiscal year 602 00:18:13,248 --> 00:18:14,349 2027-public hearing to adopt the 603 00:18:14,349 --> 00:18:14,749 tentative millage rates and 604 00:18:14,749 --> 00:18:15,450 tentative budget. 605 00:18:15,450 --> 00:18:17,450 >> read the script. 606 00:18:18,386 --> 00:18:19,387 >> MR. Chair, I just wanted to 607 00:18:19,387 --> 00:18:20,355 explain real quick because this 608 00:18:20,355 --> 00:18:21,289 came up with the first motion 609 00:18:21,289 --> 00:18:22,991 and then was mentioned again in 610 00:18:22,991 --> 00:18:25,526 the second, the way our fire 611 00:18:25,526 --> 00:18:26,940 assessment works at the a 612 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:27,696 two-tier process. 613 00:18:27,696 --> 00:18:28,263 The first tier is a plat 614 00:18:28,263 --> 00:18:30,263 flat 615 00:18:30,565 --> 00:18:31,866 rate that is basically can serve 616 00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:32,660 as a standby rate that everybody 617 00:18:32,660 --> 00:18:33,502 pays. 618 00:18:33,502 --> 00:18:36,437 The second tier is based on the 619 00:18:36,437 --> 00:18:36,705 value of the structures on the 620 00:18:36,705 --> 00:18:38,540 property. 621 00:18:38,540 --> 00:18:40,800 So vacant property doesn't get a 622 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:40,976 two-tier, second tier valuation 623 00:18:40,976 --> 00:18:42,243 because there is no structures 624 00:18:42,243 --> 00:18:43,478 to protect. 625 00:18:43,478 --> 00:18:46,415 But those that do have 626 00:18:46,415 --> 00:18:49,415 structures is based on per 5,000 627 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,321 of value so those so that's how 628 00:18:52,321 --> 00:18:54,188 the second tier of the rate 629 00:18:54,188 --> 00:18:56,188 itself is determined. 630 00:18:56,591 --> 00:18:58,794 So if there is a change in the 631 00:18:58,794 --> 00:19:01,194 structure value, that triggers 632 00:19:01,196 --> 00:19:03,265 another threshold then the next 633 00:19:03,265 --> 00:19:05,801 tier of payment would apply. 634 00:19:05,801 --> 00:19:06,702 So that's why I said that it's 635 00:19:06,702 --> 00:19:09,738 based -- it could be based on a 636 00:19:09,738 --> 00:19:11,506 change in the value if there was 637 00:19:11,506 --> 00:19:12,941 a change in the value of the 638 00:19:12,941 --> 00:19:14,443 structures on the land. 639 00:19:14,443 --> 00:19:15,210 >> chair: okay, thank you, 640 00:19:15,210 --> 00:19:16,845 MS. Lieberman. 641 00:19:16,845 --> 00:19:17,513 Okay, tommy I think we will get 642 00:19:17,513 --> 00:19:19,470 started on this. 643 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:19,648 We will take a break at 5:30 for 644 00:19:19,648 --> 00:19:20,249 public comment. 645 00:19:20,249 --> 00:19:21,283 >> we ask 646 00:19:21,283 --> 00:19:22,417 we should be done. 647 00:19:22,417 --> 00:19:22,618 >> chair: all right, let me 648 00:19:22,618 --> 00:19:23,519 start. 649 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:23,719 I start? 650 00:19:23,719 --> 00:19:24,386 Okay. 651 00:19:24,386 --> 00:19:26,188 i can read it. 652 00:19:26,188 --> 00:19:27,122 The alachua county board of 653 00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:28,230 county commissioners convenes 654 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:29,624 this public hearing on the 655 00:19:29,624 --> 00:19:31,626 alachua county fiscal year 2027 656 00:19:31,626 --> 00:19:34,260 proposed millage rates and 657 00:19:34,129 --> 00:19:35,364 florida statutes chapter 129 and 658 00:19:35,364 --> 00:19:36,732 200 and as advertised in the 659 00:19:36,732 --> 00:19:37,766 truth in millage notices. 660 00:19:37,766 --> 00:19:39,100 If anyone in our audience is 661 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:41,270 here for the purpose of 662 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:43,670 contesting their assessment, a 663 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,308 petition for adjustment with the 664 00:19:46,308 --> 00:19:49,308 value adjustment boardtial be -- 665 00:19:49,478 --> 00:19:49,845 should be filed 5:00 P.M. Monday 666 00:19:49,845 --> 00:19:51,845 SEPTEMBER 2026. 667 00:19:53,549 --> 00:19:53,783 This was included in trim 668 00:19:53,783 --> 00:19:54,616 notices. 669 00:19:54,616 --> 00:19:57,253 This evening we will take a 670 00:19:57,253 --> 00:19:58,254 number of actions related to the 671 00:19:58,254 --> 00:19:59,889 adoption of the proposed millage 672 00:19:59,889 --> 00:20:01,890 rates and budgets. 673 00:20:01,890 --> 00:20:03,158 The final public hearing on 674 00:20:03,158 --> 00:20:05,161 these matters will be held 675 00:20:05,161 --> 00:20:06,696 tuesday, SEPTEMBER 22nd, at 676 00:20:06,696 --> 00:20:07,763 5:01 in this same location the 677 00:20:07,763 --> 00:20:09,198 alachua county administration 678 00:20:09,198 --> 00:20:09,498 building jack durance 679 00:20:09,498 --> 00:20:10,866 auditorium. 680 00:20:10,866 --> 00:20:12,301 I urge if you haven't already 681 00:20:12,301 --> 00:20:13,302 done so to get a copy of the 682 00:20:13,302 --> 00:20:15,400 agenda so you MAY easily follow 683 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,706 the proceedings this evening. 684 00:20:16,706 --> 00:20:17,573 Is citizen comments will be 685 00:20:17,573 --> 00:20:18,474 taken after the overview of the 686 00:20:18,474 --> 00:20:19,642 tentative budget by the county 687 00:20:19,642 --> 00:20:21,744 manager and the assistant county 688 00:20:21,744 --> 00:20:22,178 manager for budget and fiscal 689 00:20:22,178 --> 00:20:24,178 services. 690 00:20:24,246 --> 00:20:26,549 The county will present the 691 00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:27,483 truth in millage followed by the 692 00:20:27,483 --> 00:20:28,951 explanation of the proposed and 693 00:20:28,951 --> 00:20:31,351 rolled back millage rates. 694 00:20:31,854 --> 00:20:33,854 MADAM Attorney. 695 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:34,757 >> so in 1980 the florida 696 00:20:34,757 --> 00:20:36,926 legislature adopted what is 697 00:20:36,926 --> 00:20:38,895 known as the truth in millage 698 00:20:38,895 --> 00:20:39,195 legislation or trim as it's 699 00:20:39,195 --> 00:20:40,960 called. 700 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,732 The goal of the legislation was 701 00:20:42,732 --> 00:20:44,100 to ensure that taxpayers were 702 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:45,568 advised of the public hearings 703 00:20:45,568 --> 00:20:46,669 at which the local taxing 704 00:20:46,669 --> 00:20:49,690 authorities budgets and millage 705 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:49,305 rates were to be considered and 706 00:20:49,305 --> 00:20:51,274 adopted. 707 00:20:51,274 --> 00:20:52,709 Each year the property appraiser 708 00:20:52,709 --> 00:20:54,210 completes an assessment of the 709 00:20:54,210 --> 00:20:55,345 value of all property and 710 00:20:55,345 --> 00:20:57,614 certifies to each taxing 711 00:20:57,614 --> 00:20:59,249 authority the taxable value of 712 00:20:59,249 --> 00:21:00,160 the property within its 713 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,883 jurisdiction. 714 00:21:00,883 --> 00:21:02,418 Each taxing authority then 715 00:21:02,418 --> 00:21:04,687 notifies the property appraiser 716 00:21:04,687 --> 00:21:06,389 of its proposed millage rate, 717 00:21:06,389 --> 00:21:07,957 its rolled-back rate, and the 718 00:21:07,957 --> 00:21:09,159 date, time, and place of the 719 00:21:09,159 --> 00:21:11,940 public hearing to consider the 720 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:12,829 proposed millage rate and the 721 00:21:12,829 --> 00:21:13,930 tentative budget. 722 00:21:13,930 --> 00:21:15,999 Once the property appraiser 723 00:21:15,999 --> 00:21:17,734 receives the information, their 724 00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:19,402 office sends a notice by first 725 00:21:19,402 --> 00:21:21,371 class mail to every taxpayer on 726 00:21:21,371 --> 00:21:22,772 the assessment roll. 727 00:21:22,772 --> 00:21:24,600 The notice contains the 728 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,842 information from the taxing 729 00:21:25,842 --> 00:21:27,430 authorities as to the proposed 730 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:29,178 millage rate and the time and 731 00:21:29,178 --> 00:21:30,380 place of the public hearing. 732 00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:31,748 The notice sent to taxpayers is 733 00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:33,917 called the trim notice. 734 00:21:33,917 --> 00:21:35,485 The trim notice lists what the 735 00:21:35,485 --> 00:21:37,220 taxes were for the prior year, 736 00:21:37,220 --> 00:21:38,422 what the taxes will be if the 737 00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:40,822 proposed budget changes are 738 00:21:41,725 --> 00:21:43,590 made, and what the taxes will be 739 00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:44,126 if no budget changes are made. 740 00:21:44,126 --> 00:21:45,562 This information is listed for 741 00:21:45,562 --> 00:21:47,562 each taxing authority. 742 00:21:48,650 --> 00:21:49,599 The notice also lists all voted 743 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:51,234 levies for debt service. 744 00:21:51,234 --> 00:21:53,971 The purpose of the trim notice 745 00:21:53,971 --> 00:21:55,739 is to provide taxpayers with 746 00:21:55,739 --> 00:21:56,706 sufficient basic information to 747 00:21:56,706 --> 00:21:58,942 enable them to participate in 748 00:21:58,942 --> 00:22:01,342 the public hearing process. 749 00:22:01,745 --> 00:22:02,412 >> chair: thank you, 750 00:22:02,412 --> 00:22:03,460 MS. Lieberman. 751 00:22:03,460 --> 00:22:04,715 >> one of the requirements of 752 00:22:04,715 --> 00:22:07,160 the truth in millage legislation 753 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,218 is to provide information about 754 00:22:08,218 --> 00:22:10,554 why proposed millage rates 755 00:22:10,554 --> 00:22:11,655 differ from the rolled back 756 00:22:11,655 --> 00:22:12,890 millage velocity. 757 00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:13,230 Rates. 758 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:13,624 The proposed millage for the 759 00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:16,240 board of county commissioners 760 00:22:17,861 --> 00:22:20,261 countywide levy is 7.2107 mills, 761 00:22:21,565 --> 00:22:24,234 which is 0% greater than the 762 00:22:24,234 --> 00:22:24,635 rolled-back rate of 7.2117 763 00:22:24,635 --> 00:22:25,769 mills. 764 00:22:25,769 --> 00:22:26,369 The proposed millage for the 765 00:22:26,369 --> 00:22:27,871 board of county commissioners 766 00:22:27,871 --> 00:22:30,271 municipal service taxing unit 767 00:22:31,675 --> 00:22:34,750 law enforcement levy is 3.5678 768 00:22:35,879 --> 00:22:38,279 mills, which is 5.47% greater 769 00:22:38,415 --> 00:22:39,683 than the rolled-back rate of 770 00:22:39,683 --> 00:22:41,318 3.3829 mills. 771 00:22:41,318 --> 00:22:43,387 Rolled back millage rate is 772 00:22:43,387 --> 00:22:45,356 defined as the millage rate 773 00:22:45,356 --> 00:22:46,656 which exclusive of new 774 00:22:46,656 --> 00:22:47,992 construction, additions to 775 00:22:47,992 --> 00:22:49,992 structure, deletions, and 776 00:22:50,828 --> 00:22:51,629 property added due to geographic 777 00:22:51,629 --> 00:22:53,797 boundary changes will provide 778 00:22:53,797 --> 00:22:56,200 the same ad valorem tax revenue 779 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,268 for each taxing authority as was 780 00:22:58,268 --> 00:23:00,271 levied during the prior year.% 781 00:23:00,271 --> 00:23:03,441 the trim process requires that a 782 00:23:03,441 --> 00:23:03,874 notice of tax increase by ad -- 783 00:23:03,874 --> 00:23:05,900 be adhave 784 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:06,944 advertised when the 785 00:23:06,944 --> 00:23:09,344 current year proposed aggregate 786 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:10,915 millage rate exceeds the current 787 00:23:10,915 --> 00:23:12,316 aggregate millage rate. 788 00:23:12,316 --> 00:23:13,417 The aggregate rolled back 789 00:23:13,417 --> 00:23:14,418 millage rate is calculated by 790 00:23:14,418 --> 00:23:15,720 dividing the prior year 791 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,120 estimated property tax revenue 792 00:23:18,456 --> 00:23:20,324 by the current year taxable 793 00:23:20,324 --> 00:23:20,557 property value, multiplied by 794 00:23:20,557 --> 00:23:22,292 1,000. 795 00:23:22,292 --> 00:23:24,280 The current year taxable value 796 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,300 does not include new 797 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:27,980 construction and tax increment 798 00:23:27,980 --> 00:23:29,980 cra values. 799 00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:34,350 For the 2026 tax year, the 800 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,406 proposed aggregate millage rate 801 00:23:38,943 --> 00:23:39,477 of 8.6608 is.81% greater than 802 00:23:39,477 --> 00:23:41,877 the aggregate rolled back 803 00:23:44,515 --> 00:23:46,915 millage rate of 8.5909 resulting 804 00:23:47,852 --> 00:23:48,119 in advertising a notice of tax 805 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,119 increase. 806 00:23:51,656 --> 00:23:55,256 The current year fy '26 property 807 00:23:56,270 --> 00:23:59,627 tax revenue for all taxing units 808 00:24:02,734 --> 00:24:03,368 excluding voted millage is 809 00:24:03,368 --> 00:24:05,368 $229,156,150. 810 00:24:05,503 --> 00:24:08,503 The fy '27 tentative budget 811 00:24:19,784 --> 00:24:20,585 property tax revenue of 812 00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:22,200 $232,577,218 is 813 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,621 $3,421,068 greater than fiscal 814 00:24:22,621 --> 00:24:24,522 year 26. 815 00:24:24,522 --> 00:24:25,289 The increase ipproperty tax 816 00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:26,958 revenue -- in property tax 817 00:24:26,958 --> 00:24:27,692 revenue is necessary to fund the 818 00:24:27,692 --> 00:24:30,920 appropriations to operate the 819 00:24:30,662 --> 00:24:32,970 general county and mstu law 820 00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:33,397 enforcement taxing units. 821 00:24:33,397 --> 00:24:34,932 Tommy crosby assistant county 822 00:24:34,932 --> 00:24:35,933 manager for financial and 823 00:24:35,933 --> 00:24:37,235 facilities resource management 824 00:24:37,235 --> 00:24:39,971 will now present an overview of 825 00:24:39,971 --> 00:24:41,172 the tentative budget for fiscal 826 00:24:41,172 --> 00:24:41,972 year 2027. 827 00:24:41,972 --> 00:24:43,341 >> chair: MR. Crosby. 828 00:24:43,341 --> 00:24:46,770 >> MR. Chair, the total county 829 00:24:46,770 --> 00:24:49,770 tentative budget for fiscal year 830 00:24:51,683 --> 00:24:54,830 2027 is $974,151,842 which is a 831 00:24:55,954 --> 00:24:56,922 net increase of 832 00:24:56,922 --> 00:24:58,557 $25,200,300 compared to the 833 00:24:58,557 --> 00:25:00,957 county manager's proposed budget 834 00:25:05,163 --> 00:25:07,131 of $948,951,942 the details of 835 00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:08,500 the changes reflected in the 836 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,102 fiscal year 26-27 tentative 837 00:25:10,102 --> 00:25:10,335 budget included in your agenda 838 00:25:10,335 --> 00:25:12,204 packet. 839 00:25:12,204 --> 00:25:14,372 I have a quick presentation 840 00:25:14,372 --> 00:25:14,606 similar to last year's to go 841 00:25:14,606 --> 00:25:16,141 through. 842 00:25:16,141 --> 00:25:17,308 I want to update you on our 843 00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:18,243 property tax data and summarize 844 00:25:18,243 --> 00:25:19,277 some of the expenditures that 845 00:25:19,277 --> 00:25:22,277 the board had requested during 846 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,282 our meetings. 847 00:25:23,282 --> 00:25:23,515 >> chair: tommy, hold on one 848 00:25:23,515 --> 00:25:24,716 second. 849 00:25:24,716 --> 00:25:25,583 Is there anyone here for public 850 00:25:25,583 --> 00:25:27,583 comment at 5:30? 851 00:25:27,753 --> 00:25:28,186 okay, let's go ahead and pause 852 00:25:28,186 --> 00:25:29,388 the public hearing. 853 00:25:29,388 --> 00:25:30,122 That way we can have public 854 00:25:30,122 --> 00:25:31,560 comment not related to the 855 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,250 public hearing and then when we 856 00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:34,259 get back we'll proceed with your 857 00:25:34,259 --> 00:25:34,994 presentation if that's okay. 858 00:25:34,994 --> 00:25:35,694 >> sure, sure. 859 00:25:35,694 --> 00:25:36,462 >> because I don't want to rush 860 00:25:36,462 --> 00:25:37,296 through that. 861 00:25:37,296 --> 00:25:38,960 And I think it's important 862 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,650 information so we're going to go 863 00:25:40,650 --> 00:25:42,601 ahead and open up public comment 864 00:25:42,601 --> 00:25:43,269 at 5:30 which is not the public 865 00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:44,369 comment for the public hearing. 866 00:25:44,369 --> 00:25:45,137 This is public comment not 867 00:25:45,137 --> 00:25:48,137 related to the public hearing. 868 00:25:49,408 --> 00:25:50,409 MR. Konish, you're recognized. 869 00:25:50,409 --> 00:25:53,612 >> MR. Chair, you know, I see 870 00:25:53,612 --> 00:25:54,446 these massive utility projects 871 00:25:54,446 --> 00:25:56,415 going in the county 872 00:25:56,415 --> 00:25:58,415 right-of-ways regional 873 00:26:02,989 --> 00:26:05,989 wastewater systems, and I know 874 00:26:06,158 --> 00:26:08,558 property along northwest 282nd 875 00:26:13,499 --> 00:26:17,136 drive that goes up to the now 876 00:26:17,136 --> 00:26:19,972 dead poe springs and the 877 00:26:19,972 --> 00:26:20,740 systemic failure to regulate 878 00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:21,941 right-of-ways. 879 00:26:21,941 --> 00:26:24,100 These people go in there, 880 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:24,677 they're unrelation regulated, 881 00:26:24,677 --> 00:26:25,645 nay don't pay anything. 882 00:26:25,645 --> 00:26:26,746 Then you will have people who 883 00:26:26,746 --> 00:26:29,581 want to go in there but you want 884 00:26:29,581 --> 00:26:30,483 to save four trees but you don't 885 00:26:30,483 --> 00:26:31,150 have any jurisdiction. 886 00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:33,180 I don't understand why we go 887 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:35,221 decade after decade once they 888 00:26:35,221 --> 00:26:38,221 get through the county, sir, 889 00:26:38,725 --> 00:26:40,460 they're gone. 890 00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:44,960 You won't be able to put the 891 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:44,964 the 892 00:26:44,964 --> 00:26:46,650 brakes on. 893 00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:47,366 Probably be a few miles closer 894 00:26:47,366 --> 00:26:48,368 in the future, but you know I 895 00:26:48,368 --> 00:26:50,436 just don't, I really don't 896 00:26:50,436 --> 00:26:51,970 understand that. 897 00:26:51,970 --> 00:26:54,907 The, our sky high gru bills is 898 00:26:54,907 --> 00:26:57,210 not a good tax base for you. 899 00:26:57,210 --> 00:26:58,211 Because they're already 900 00:26:58,211 --> 00:27:00,213 exacerbated by surcharges that 901 00:27:00,213 --> 00:27:01,714 you don't care about. 902 00:27:01,714 --> 00:27:04,116 And then you're putting your 903 00:27:04,116 --> 00:27:07,530 county utility tax on in a 904 00:27:07,530 --> 00:27:08,254 pyramid 905 00:27:08,254 --> 00:27:09,756 in a pyramid fashion. 906 00:27:09,756 --> 00:27:11,524 The bills are a problem, sir. 907 00:27:11,524 --> 00:27:15,124 The bills are a big problem, 908 00:27:16,863 --> 00:27:18,631 particularly for businesses. 909 00:27:18,631 --> 00:27:18,898 Although they are a problem for 910 00:27:18,898 --> 00:27:20,699 everybody. 911 00:27:20,699 --> 00:27:24,299 I just really wish, like even 912 00:27:27,707 --> 00:27:29,142 hutch at one point suggested 913 00:27:29,142 --> 00:27:30,877 rolling back the utility tax. 914 00:27:30,877 --> 00:27:32,779 Even at one time he suggested it 915 00:27:32,779 --> 00:27:34,800 admitting that, okay, we had a 916 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:34,848 bad contract, something along 917 00:27:34,848 --> 00:27:36,615 those lines. 918 00:27:36,615 --> 00:27:37,183 And maybe we'll roll back the 919 00:27:37,183 --> 00:27:39,152 utility tax. 920 00:27:39,152 --> 00:27:41,540 But the bills are a problem. 921 00:27:41,540 --> 00:27:44,654 And you don't need to be 922 00:27:45,225 --> 00:27:49,425 stepping on them the way you do. 923 00:27:50,997 --> 00:27:52,966 And going back to northwest 924 00:27:52,966 --> 00:27:56,360 282nd drive, a guy went into 925 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,737 an abandoned log cabin he paid 926 00:27:57,737 --> 00:27:59,339 too much for. 927 00:27:59,339 --> 00:28:00,106 Put in a pole in the 928 00:28:00,106 --> 00:28:02,106 right-of-way, underground 929 00:28:03,443 --> 00:28:05,778 service, big 200-amp service to 930 00:28:05,778 --> 00:28:06,113 his dilapidated building in the 931 00:28:06,113 --> 00:28:07,948 right-of-way. 932 00:28:07,948 --> 00:28:09,249 Other people are paving their 933 00:28:09,249 --> 00:28:12,249 driveways like right into the 934 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,520 county right-of-way. 935 00:28:15,923 --> 00:28:17,570 Building them up, exacerbating 936 00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:17,825 flooding, hurting adjacent 937 00:28:17,825 --> 00:28:19,426 property owners. 938 00:28:19,426 --> 00:28:21,862 And you don't seem to care. 939 00:28:21,862 --> 00:28:23,730 I asked clay electric, how can 940 00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:24,640 you put the pole in the county 941 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,699 right-of-way? 942 00:28:25,699 --> 00:28:26,967 They said we do it all the time. 943 00:28:26,967 --> 00:28:28,969 And then, you know, someone 944 00:28:28,969 --> 00:28:29,670 wants to bring an underground 945 00:28:29,670 --> 00:28:30,837 internet. 946 00:28:30,837 --> 00:28:32,837 Well, guess what. 947 00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:35,376 There's obstacles all over the 948 00:28:35,376 --> 00:28:37,376 place. 949 00:28:39,113 --> 00:28:39,313 It's just no way to manage an 950 00:28:39,313 --> 00:28:41,313 asset. 951 00:28:41,315 --> 00:28:43,384 free use of right-of-way, city 952 00:28:43,384 --> 00:28:46,286 and county, is on gru books as 953 00:28:46,286 --> 00:28:48,221 an asset worth 800,000. 954 00:28:48,221 --> 00:28:50,758 And you sued them for the 955 00:28:50,758 --> 00:28:52,393 privilege fee in the '90s. 956 00:28:52,393 --> 00:28:53,694 >> chair: thank you, MR. Konish. 957 00:28:53,694 --> 00:28:54,894 Anyone else wants to address 958 00:28:54,894 --> 00:28:58,494 this board on anything not on 959 00:28:59,466 --> 00:29:01,235 the agenda? 960 00:29:01,235 --> 00:29:04,235 >> my name is james cergton. 961 00:29:06,140 --> 00:29:09,100 I live at 10015 northwest 52nd 962 00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,778 terrace gainesville, florida. 963 00:29:10,778 --> 00:29:12,513 And you can see I dressed up to 964 00:29:12,513 --> 00:29:13,848 come here today, so you'd 965 00:29:13,848 --> 00:29:17,448 remember me and the real reason 966 00:29:17,618 --> 00:29:21,489 that I came here today is not so 967 00:29:21,489 --> 00:29:23,291 much the simplicity of a budget, 968 00:29:23,291 --> 00:29:23,657 which I thank you for every 969 00:29:23,657 --> 00:29:25,657 year. 970 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:31,866 And I thank you for what you 971 00:29:31,866 --> 00:29:33,866 have accomplished. 972 00:29:34,469 --> 00:29:37,238 This is my county commission. 973 00:29:37,238 --> 00:29:41,142 But what I want to speak for is 974 00:29:41,142 --> 00:29:43,678 the seniors in our county. 975 00:29:43,678 --> 00:29:44,779 I'm an octogenarian. 976 00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:47,582 I'm nervous all the time. 977 00:29:47,582 --> 00:29:49,582 I shake. 978 00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,919 I can't articulate like I did 979 00:29:55,456 --> 00:29:56,925 when I was a radical at the 980 00:29:56,925 --> 00:29:59,925 university of florida as a 981 00:30:00,962 --> 00:30:03,310 graduate student in philosophy. 982 00:30:03,310 --> 00:30:03,264 But I do want to speak for the 983 00:30:03,264 --> 00:30:05,264 seniors. 984 00:30:09,504 --> 00:30:11,972 My wife and I attend the senior 985 00:30:11,972 --> 00:30:14,175 center by the fire station and 986 00:30:14,175 --> 00:30:16,575 highway patrol station on 121 987 00:30:17,445 --> 00:30:19,445 and 441, that area. 988 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:24,953 City of alachua is building a 989 00:30:24,953 --> 00:30:27,353 hathcock center for seniors. 990 00:30:28,924 --> 00:30:33,724 And I would like you to focus on 991 00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:36,640 a picture of our community all 992 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,599 pulling together in budgets and 993 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:39,999 everything else, you know. 994 00:30:40,435 --> 00:30:42,170 And one of the things is that 995 00:30:42,170 --> 00:30:45,770 children are on one hand and 996 00:30:46,675 --> 00:30:49,675 seniors are on the other. 997 00:30:50,812 --> 00:30:51,113 Seniors are your homeless, your 998 00:30:51,113 --> 00:30:53,113 unemployed. 999 00:30:53,548 --> 00:30:55,951 Every senior who is over 80, wow 1000 00:30:55,951 --> 00:30:58,353 dare say, is probably close to 1001 00:30:58,353 --> 00:31:01,353 being unemployed or wished they 1002 00:31:02,291 --> 00:31:04,291 were unemployed. 1003 00:31:05,827 --> 00:31:06,494 And, you know, children get bus 1004 00:31:06,494 --> 00:31:08,494 transportation. 1005 00:31:09,297 --> 00:31:09,665 Do seniors get bus 1006 00:31:09,665 --> 00:31:10,666 transportation? 1007 00:31:10,666 --> 00:31:13,134 I don't have long and we're not 1008 00:31:13,134 --> 00:31:14,336 going to solve the proble here. 1009 00:31:14,336 --> 00:31:17,940 But what you are going to solve 1010 00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:22,140 the problem is we don't want our 1011 00:31:23,545 --> 00:31:23,811 seniors treated less than our 1012 00:31:23,811 --> 00:31:25,811 prisoners. 1013 00:31:26,515 --> 00:31:28,684 Be careful with your budget. 1014 00:31:28,684 --> 00:31:30,986 And I speak first to the 1015 00:31:30,986 --> 00:31:32,821 sheriff's office, you know. 1016 00:31:32,821 --> 00:31:35,821 The prison is the biggest 1017 00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:39,160 expense you've probably got. 1018 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,160 I speak to the other 1019 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:44,966 constitutional agencies. 1020 00:31:44,966 --> 00:31:46,735 What are your constitutional 1021 00:31:46,735 --> 00:31:48,671 agencies and your own agency 1022 00:31:48,671 --> 00:31:50,671 being paid? 1023 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:53,275 Seniors get 2.7% and I 1024 00:31:53,275 --> 00:31:56,875 understand this year we MAY go 1025 00:31:57,513 --> 00:31:58,848 up to 3% budget increase in our 1026 00:31:58,848 --> 00:32:00,848 social security. 1027 00:32:00,850 --> 00:32:02,351 Remember that, keep in mind, 1028 00:32:02,351 --> 00:32:04,954 look at the big picture. 1029 00:32:04,954 --> 00:32:06,122 Let's balance this big picture. 1030 00:32:06,122 --> 00:32:07,255 Children, seniors. 1031 00:32:07,255 --> 00:32:09,655 Thank you so much. 1032 00:32:09,658 --> 00:32:10,760 >> chair: thank you, 1033 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,920 MR. Kerrington, thank you. 1034 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Anyone else? 1035 00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:14,296 We're going to close the 5:30 1036 00:32:14,296 --> 00:32:15,497 public comment and reopen back 1037 00:32:15,497 --> 00:32:16,999 the public hearing and we're 1038 00:32:16,999 --> 00:32:18,167 back up to MR. 1039 00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:20,167 Crosby's review 1040 00:32:20,736 --> 00:32:21,360 of the fiscal year '27 budget 1041 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:21,204 highlights. 1042 00:32:21,204 --> 00:32:22,605 MR. 1043 00:32:22,605 --> 00:32:24,605 Crosby, you're recognized. 1044 00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:28,410 >> thank you, MR. Chair. 1045 00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:30,460 So you have a presentation that 1046 00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:30,513 was included in the packet as 1047 00:32:30,513 --> 00:32:31,813 well. 1048 00:32:31,813 --> 00:32:33,583 Just kind of updating the data 1049 00:32:33,583 --> 00:32:34,683 we normally go through and we 1050 00:32:34,683 --> 00:32:37,586 have added a couple of 1051 00:32:37,586 --> 00:32:38,487 expenditure slides at the end. 1052 00:32:38,487 --> 00:32:40,456 The 2025 county millage rate 1053 00:32:40,456 --> 00:32:44,560 which was for the current fiscal 1054 00:32:44,193 --> 00:32:45,894 year we're in ranked in 67 1055 00:32:45,894 --> 00:32:47,363 counties is the last -- some of 1056 00:32:47,363 --> 00:32:48,598 this data is old data just 1057 00:32:48,598 --> 00:32:50,299 because that's where it comes 1058 00:32:50,299 --> 00:32:52,299 out of dor. 1059 00:32:52,468 --> 00:32:52,902 They haven't updated for current 1060 00:32:52,902 --> 00:32:54,902 year. 1061 00:32:55,271 --> 00:32:58,740 Last year's -- the year we're in 1062 00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:01,277 fiscal year '26 data, we ranked 1063 00:33:01,277 --> 00:33:04,277 52nd in aggregate millage at 1064 00:33:06,716 --> 00:33:08,716 9.0492 mills. 1065 00:33:09,219 --> 00:33:11,619 And 41st at 7.6 mills. 1066 00:33:13,123 --> 00:33:15,825 So the value of this information 1067 00:33:15,825 --> 00:33:17,393 is we are annually accused of 1068 00:33:17,393 --> 00:33:20,363 and said that we are at the top 1069 00:33:20,363 --> 00:33:22,599 of the list and the most taxed 1070 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:23,366 millage in the state and we are 1071 00:33:23,366 --> 00:33:24,767 not. 1072 00:33:24,767 --> 00:33:27,571 We're 41st and we'll talk a 1073 00:33:27,571 --> 00:33:28,938 little bit more about how it 1074 00:33:28,938 --> 00:33:29,239 could be less and why it's not 1075 00:33:29,239 --> 00:33:30,840 less. 1076 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,342 This board has done a very good 1077 00:33:32,342 --> 00:33:32,842 job over the years of reducing 1078 00:33:32,842 --> 00:33:34,842 millage. 1079 00:33:36,212 --> 00:33:38,281 The per capita rate which is the 1080 00:33:38,281 --> 00:33:40,516 tax per citizen on the county 1081 00:33:40,516 --> 00:33:42,516 government levies, alachua 1082 00:33:43,220 --> 00:33:44,654 county is at $761. 1083 00:33:44,654 --> 00:33:46,654 State average is $991. 1084 00:33:46,856 --> 00:33:48,491 So we're the 32nd lowest 1085 00:33:48,491 --> 00:33:50,891 property tax per capita. 1086 00:33:52,695 --> 00:33:53,596 I think that's an important 1087 00:33:53,596 --> 00:33:54,631 distinction as well. 1088 00:33:54,631 --> 00:33:56,332 >> chair: there's the big one. 1089 00:33:56,332 --> 00:33:57,901 >> that's the big one that we 1090 00:33:57,901 --> 00:33:59,970 tout but I believe it's better 1091 00:33:59,970 --> 00:34:02,906 to see it in writing and be able 1092 00:34:02,906 --> 00:34:04,740 to publish it so people can 1093 00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:06,474 understand 10 straight years we 1094 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:08,910 have reduced general fund 1095 00:34:12,316 --> 00:34:14,316 millage by 1.7183 mills. 1096 00:34:14,518 --> 00:34:15,152 It's almost a 20% reduction in 1097 00:34:15,152 --> 00:34:17,152 10 years. 1098 00:34:17,888 --> 00:34:19,423 >> chair: tommy, if you could 1099 00:34:19,423 --> 00:34:19,956 add leon county to the slide 1100 00:34:19,956 --> 00:34:21,625 next year. 1101 00:34:21,625 --> 00:34:22,493 i was talking to some folks from 1102 00:34:22,493 --> 00:34:24,995 tallahassee over the weekend and 1103 00:34:24,995 --> 00:34:25,395 that's our peer county. 1104 00:34:25,395 --> 00:34:27,395 >> sure. 1105 00:34:28,966 --> 00:34:30,667 >> chair: because 10 years ago 1106 00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:33,804 we were way above them and we 1107 00:34:33,804 --> 00:34:35,306 are now below them. 1108 00:34:35,306 --> 00:34:37,706 >> property tax data, the 2026 1109 00:34:39,976 --> 00:34:41,712 tax roll for '27, again this is 1110 00:34:41,712 --> 00:34:43,414 talking about what's not on the 1111 00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:45,282 assessed roll and why we have to 1112 00:34:45,282 --> 00:34:45,449 be at the level we are currently 1113 00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:47,449 at. 1114 00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:50,854 Alachua county taxable value, we 1115 00:34:50,854 --> 00:34:51,355 have 68% of our value is on the 1116 00:34:51,355 --> 00:34:53,355 roll. 1117 00:34:54,124 --> 00:34:56,326 That means there's 32% roughly 1118 00:34:56,326 --> 00:34:58,896 that are off the roll, mainly 1119 00:34:58,896 --> 00:35:00,765 because the university of 1120 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,700 florida, state properties, etc., 1121 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,700 federal properties. 1122 00:35:07,338 --> 00:35:07,938 The state level, the average is 1123 00:35:07,938 --> 00:35:09,730 83.88%. 1124 00:35:09,730 --> 00:35:11,410 We're the 8th lowest 1125 00:35:11,410 --> 00:35:12,443 percentage in the state of 1126 00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:14,111 assessed value. 1127 00:35:14,111 --> 00:35:16,113 And that is the other seven are 1128 00:35:16,113 --> 00:35:18,513 all very small counties. 1129 00:35:18,749 --> 00:35:19,684 So the lafayettes of the world 1130 00:35:19,684 --> 00:35:22,386 where it's all national forest 1131 00:35:22,386 --> 00:35:23,888 and those up in the panhandle, 1132 00:35:23,888 --> 00:35:25,888 taylor county, etc. 1133 00:35:30,828 --> 00:35:32,330 Our alachua county taxable value 1134 00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:34,499 is 56.3% of just value. 1135 00:35:34,499 --> 00:35:36,166 The impact of assessed value 1136 00:35:36,166 --> 00:35:39,166 verse taxable value in alachua 1137 00:35:39,203 --> 00:35:41,606 county, our assessed value is 1138 00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:41,939 $39.2 billion, taxable is 1139 00:35:41,939 --> 00:35:43,939 $26.8 billion. 1140 00:35:43,974 --> 00:35:46,770 So when you see it in raw 1141 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:47,512 numbers, that's $13 billion of 1142 00:35:47,512 --> 00:35:50,512 value off of the books. 1143 00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:52,350 State average again is 84%. 1144 00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:54,452 If we were at the state average 1145 00:35:54,452 --> 00:35:55,386 that would generate another 1146 00:35:55,386 --> 00:35:57,786 $6.3 billion worth of value 1147 00:35:57,854 --> 00:36:00,758 which could reduce our millage 1148 00:36:00,758 --> 00:36:02,994 down to 5.85 mills and generate 1149 00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:03,361 the same property tax rate. 1150 00:36:03,361 --> 00:36:05,361 >> chair: wow. 1151 00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:09,198 >> we have talked briefly 1152 00:36:09,534 --> 00:36:10,340 knowing it's never going to 1153 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:10,902 happen. 1154 00:36:10,902 --> 00:36:12,902 Payment newnans 1155 00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:17,409 in lieu of taxes, the 1156 00:36:17,409 --> 00:36:19,376 ocala national forest gets it. 1157 00:36:19,376 --> 00:36:21,513 The state doesn't pay taxes but 1158 00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:22,446 if we could do something to help 1159 00:36:22,446 --> 00:36:24,490 counties with large state 1160 00:36:24,490 --> 00:36:25,684 holdings in their county. 1161 00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:29,154 Because we do supply services to 1162 00:36:29,154 --> 00:36:29,454 a lot of those properties. 1163 00:36:29,454 --> 00:36:31,454 >> right. 1164 00:36:31,455 --> 00:36:33,855 >> tax and assessment sources. 1165 00:36:34,492 --> 00:36:36,227 These are our major tax funds. 1166 00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:36,895 Again, the board has seen these 1167 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,730 many times. 1168 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:39,960 It's more for public 1169 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,632 information. 1170 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:43,632 Our general fund which includes 1171 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:50,542 property taxes, utility PSTs, 1172 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:52,410 CSTs, sales tax, state shared 1173 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:56,100 funds and fees the largest is 1174 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,517 ambulance fees, the mst for law 1175 00:36:59,517 --> 00:37:01,860 enforcement is of property 1176 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:04,860 faxes, msbu is fire assessments. 1177 00:37:05,356 --> 00:37:05,624 We do contribute 30% -- 40%, 1178 00:37:05,624 --> 00:37:07,624 thank you. 1179 00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:09,928 40% of our sales tax, utility 1180 00:37:09,928 --> 00:37:11,863 tax and communications service 1181 00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:13,598 tax split to fire. 1182 00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:14,866 Msbu for stormwater and solid 1183 00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:17,866 waste are all assessments and 1184 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:19,838 tipping fees for the solid waste 1185 00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:21,273 facility. 1186 00:37:21,273 --> 00:37:23,675 Road maintenance is gas tax and 1187 00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:25,244 then we supply communication, 1188 00:37:25,244 --> 00:37:26,211 20% communication service tax to 1189 00:37:26,211 --> 00:37:27,446 them now. 1190 00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:30,446 We started doing that three 1191 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:30,949 years ago to help operational 1192 00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:32,949 costs. 1193 00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,986 Conservation lands, parks master 1194 00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:35,921 plan, pavement management master 1195 00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:38,321 roads and housing infrastructure 1196 00:37:40,993 --> 00:37:42,861 are part of the 1 cent surtax. 1197 00:37:42,861 --> 00:37:45,230 Equestrian center and the sports 1198 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,532 event center and grants is from 1199 00:37:46,532 --> 00:37:48,867 the tourist development tax. 1200 00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:49,235 >> MAY I say something? 1201 00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:50,690 >> chair: yes. 1202 00:37:50,690 --> 00:37:52,690 Commissioner alford, sorry. 1203 00:37:52,571 --> 00:37:54,740 >> tommy, do you mind making the 1204 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:57,209 point that while we do have all 1205 00:37:57,209 --> 00:37:59,780 those taxes for all of those 1206 00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:00,779 things, all of those taxes do 1207 00:38:00,779 --> 00:38:02,214 not provide all of the funding 1208 00:38:02,214 --> 00:38:04,214 for those things. 1209 00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:05,885 So, for instance, while we have 1210 00:38:05,885 --> 00:38:07,520 the gas tax and road 1211 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,520 maintenance, it is nowhere near 1212 00:38:10,389 --> 00:38:10,689 the amount we need to do that 1213 00:38:10,689 --> 00:38:12,158 maintenance. 1214 00:38:12,158 --> 00:38:13,526 That's the question I get asked 1215 00:38:13,526 --> 00:38:15,327 over and over and over again. 1216 00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:16,629 So I just wanted to make it 1217 00:38:16,629 --> 00:38:18,597 clear that while we do have 1218 00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:20,266 these sources of funding, those 1219 00:38:20,266 --> 00:38:21,266 sources of funding are not 1220 00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:22,334 adequate to provide all the 1221 00:38:22,334 --> 00:38:22,702 funding necessary. 1222 00:38:22,702 --> 00:38:23,302 >> yes, ma'am. 1223 00:38:23,302 --> 00:38:25,710 Happy to. 1224 00:38:25,710 --> 00:38:28,875 So a couple of those that are 1225 00:38:28,875 --> 00:38:30,743 critical in nature, ambulance 1226 00:38:30,743 --> 00:38:32,177 services we subsidize about 30% 1227 00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:34,446 to 35% of those fees. 1228 00:38:34,446 --> 00:38:35,948 The rest come from fees. 1229 00:38:35,948 --> 00:38:36,249 Outside of that comes from tax 1230 00:38:36,249 --> 00:38:38,249 dollars. 1231 00:38:38,951 --> 00:38:41,951 The other one you just 1232 00:38:42,955 --> 00:38:45,758 mentioned, gas tax that's why we 1233 00:38:45,758 --> 00:38:46,826 subsidized 25% to maintain it 1234 00:38:46,826 --> 00:38:48,694 because gas tax collections 1235 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:50,396 unlike the state who has indexed 1236 00:38:50,396 --> 00:38:51,831 theirs, ours has been at the 1237 00:38:51,831 --> 00:38:53,833 same rate since it was imposed. 1238 00:38:53,833 --> 00:38:55,601 So it's not enough as inflaton 1239 00:38:55,601 --> 00:38:56,970 has gone up to keep up with 1240 00:38:56,970 --> 00:38:58,838 those costs. 1241 00:38:58,838 --> 00:39:01,400 And those would be the two major 1242 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,342 ones that do that. 1243 00:39:03,342 --> 00:39:06,342 >> chair: to MR. Konish's point, 1244 00:39:06,379 --> 00:39:08,147 if we eliminate that cst tax, it 1245 00:39:08,147 --> 00:39:09,581 would eliminate road money. 1246 00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:09,916 Thank you for bringing that up, 1247 00:39:09,916 --> 00:39:10,884 commissioner. 1248 00:39:10,884 --> 00:39:12,118 Is he still here? 1249 00:39:12,118 --> 00:39:14,587 >> I'm not sure why this second 1250 00:39:14,587 --> 00:39:15,321 block did something very 1251 00:39:15,321 --> 00:39:15,754 different. 1252 00:39:15,754 --> 00:39:16,222 >> oh. 1253 00:39:16,222 --> 00:39:17,856 >> chair: whoa. 1254 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:20,856 >> it didn't like your font. 1255 00:39:23,663 --> 00:39:26,630 >> I would say so. 1256 00:39:26,299 --> 00:39:27,166 It says it on the paper. 1257 00:39:27,166 --> 00:39:27,967 >> chair: 191 million. 1258 00:39:27,967 --> 00:39:29,967 >> anyway, okay. 1259 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:31,771 One of the things the board -- 1260 00:39:31,771 --> 00:39:33,106 that is so weird. 1261 00:39:33,106 --> 00:39:33,740 >> chair: tommy, put this on the 1262 00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:35,408 overhead. 1263 00:39:35,408 --> 00:39:37,811 Yeah, just stick it -- can we 1264 00:39:37,811 --> 00:39:38,770 have overhead, please. 1265 00:39:38,770 --> 00:39:39,346 [Laughter] 1266 00:39:39,346 --> 00:39:41,346 >> thank you. 1267 00:39:41,681 --> 00:39:42,982 >> we've been hacked. 1268 00:39:42,982 --> 00:39:44,184 >> converting it to a 1269 00:39:44,184 --> 00:39:46,353 presentation, to a powerpoint, 1270 00:39:46,353 --> 00:39:47,554 strange things happen in the 1271 00:39:47,554 --> 00:39:47,753 machine. 1272 00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:49,523 Okay. 1273 00:39:49,523 --> 00:39:50,957 So one of the things the board 1274 00:39:50,957 --> 00:39:52,592 had asked a while back -- and we 1275 00:39:52,592 --> 00:39:56,196 have doe some of this and I 1276 00:39:56,196 --> 00:39:58,698 think this is a better 1277 00:39:58,698 --> 00:40:01,698 definitive way to do it. 1278 00:40:02,536 --> 00:40:04,705 You have a $974 million budget 1279 00:40:04,705 --> 00:40:06,373 and you ask why can't you put 1280 00:40:06,373 --> 00:40:07,541 more to roads if you have this 1281 00:40:07,541 --> 00:40:09,276 much money in your budget. 1282 00:40:09,276 --> 00:40:10,744 And collectively, you have tried 1283 00:40:10,744 --> 00:40:12,179 to express that all that is not 1284 00:40:12,179 --> 00:40:12,378 available for us to put to 1285 00:40:12,378 --> 00:40:13,981 roads. 1286 00:40:13,981 --> 00:40:16,116 And we are limited in what we 1287 00:40:16,116 --> 00:40:17,851 can move forward. 1288 00:40:17,851 --> 00:40:19,354 Also, the fact that a budget is 1289 00:40:19,354 --> 00:40:21,321 not a fire assessment, it is a 1290 00:40:21,321 --> 00:40:23,556 plan of action and a lot of 1291 00:40:23,556 --> 00:40:24,825 that budget moves money between 1292 00:40:24,825 --> 00:40:25,125 funds so that we can account for 1293 00:40:25,125 --> 00:40:27,125 it. 1294 00:40:28,395 --> 00:40:29,930 It has nothing to do with 1295 00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:30,531 expenditures or cash outlay if 1296 00:40:30,531 --> 00:40:32,531 you will. 1297 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:34,567 What we have taken is your 1298 00:40:34,567 --> 00:40:36,637 $974 million budget and we have 1299 00:40:36,637 --> 00:40:38,380 it into five different boxes. 1300 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:41,380 We'll talk about these boxes. 1301 00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:43,510 the first one is internal 1302 00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:44,445 budgetary transactions 1303 00:40:44,445 --> 00:40:46,380 $191 million goes through the 1304 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:47,915 budget for things like 1305 00:40:47,915 --> 00:40:48,682 transfers, reserves, things that 1306 00:40:48,682 --> 00:40:49,984 are never spent. 1307 00:40:49,984 --> 00:40:51,619 They are just between funds. 1308 00:40:51,619 --> 00:40:53,453 Some of them look like they are 1309 00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:56,256 duplicate but it's a matter of 1310 00:40:56,256 --> 00:40:59,590 using one fund to another. 1311 00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:01,280 Outside agency funds, 1312 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,563 $251 million, we'll talk about 1313 00:41:02,563 --> 00:41:03,196 those as through constitutional 1314 00:41:03,196 --> 00:41:05,196 officers. 1315 00:41:05,299 --> 00:41:05,699 >> chair: tommy, hold on. 1316 00:41:05,699 --> 00:41:06,967 >> yes. 1317 00:41:06,967 --> 00:41:07,167 >> chair: anna brought up a good 1318 00:41:07,167 --> 00:41:09,167 point. 1319 00:41:12,206 --> 00:41:15,806 If you take the 974 minus the 1320 00:41:17,978 --> 00:41:20,378 991, you are immediately at 780. 1321 00:41:20,715 --> 00:41:21,820 >> 780 round numbers. 1322 00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:22,917 >> chair: 785. 1323 00:41:22,917 --> 00:41:23,350 >> that's where we're going, 1324 00:41:23,350 --> 00:41:25,119 yes, sir. 1325 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,521 We'll go through the boxes, 1326 00:41:27,521 --> 00:41:28,723 internal budgetary transactions 1327 00:41:28,723 --> 00:41:30,723 19.6% of the budget. 1328 00:41:30,858 --> 00:41:33,258 $45 million in budget transfers. 1329 00:41:33,627 --> 00:41:34,495 You have $67 million in internal 1330 00:41:34,495 --> 00:41:36,495 service funds. 1331 00:41:36,531 --> 00:41:38,466 That's things like our phone 1332 00:41:38,466 --> 00:41:39,566 system that we charge out to 1333 00:41:39,566 --> 00:41:40,535 different departments. 1334 00:41:40,535 --> 00:41:42,136 The biggest one is health 1335 00:41:42,136 --> 00:41:42,936 insurance fund, our 1336 00:41:42,936 --> 00:41:44,936 self-insurance fund. 1337 00:41:45,206 --> 00:41:46,440 Then you have reserves of 1338 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,509 $79 million to set aside 1339 00:41:48,509 --> 00:41:50,509 hopefully not spent. 1340 00:41:51,946 --> 00:41:52,880 So then you're down to 1341 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,880 $780 million. 1342 00:41:57,185 --> 00:41:58,920 Then we have $250 million to go 1343 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,855 to outside agencies. 1344 00:42:00,855 --> 00:42:02,290 If you pull that off your 1345 00:42:02,290 --> 00:42:03,691 number, the outside agencies is 1346 00:42:03,691 --> 00:42:05,691 25% of your budget. 1347 00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:06,360 The sheriff receives 1348 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,360 $152 million. 1349 00:42:09,531 --> 00:42:11,566 That's for the jail. 1350 00:42:11,566 --> 00:42:14,566 The law enforcement agency, the 1351 00:42:14,769 --> 00:42:16,400 ccc and the court bailiffs, so 1352 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,104 it's $152 million. 1353 00:42:17,104 --> 00:42:19,740 The hospital assessment which we 1354 00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:20,542 are just a pass-through agency 1355 00:42:20,542 --> 00:42:22,760 of $65 million. 1356 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,645 We don't even touch that. 1357 00:42:23,645 --> 00:42:27,245 That's to help the hospitals at 1358 00:42:27,248 --> 00:42:28,550 their reques. 1359 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:30,550 Other constitutional officers, 1360 00:42:32,654 --> 00:42:33,622 this is the other four 1361 00:42:33,622 --> 00:42:34,856 constitutionals. 1362 00:42:34,856 --> 00:42:36,856 Careersource $5 million. 1363 00:42:40,262 --> 00:42:41,996 And the mtpo $1 million. 1364 00:42:41,996 --> 00:42:42,764 250 million to outside agencies 1365 00:42:42,764 --> 00:42:45,164 at their request or 1366 00:42:51,506 --> 00:42:52,600 appropriation or etc. Or their 1367 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,600 assessment. 1368 00:43:02,350 --> 00:43:04,152 Next box are inmates. 1369 00:43:04,152 --> 00:43:05,190 In -- mandates. 1370 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:07,190 $34 million in mandates. 1371 00:43:07,222 --> 00:43:08,623 This is our debt service funds 1372 00:43:08,623 --> 00:43:10,623 for prior obligations. 1373 00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:14,162 The medicaid state match, 1374 00:43:14,162 --> 00:43:15,464 $5 million. 1375 00:43:15,464 --> 00:43:17,566 Debt service of 14 million. 1376 00:43:17,566 --> 00:43:19,566 Medicaid of $5 million. 1377 00:43:19,968 --> 00:43:21,269 Juvenile justice $4 million. 1378 00:43:21,269 --> 00:43:23,269 Inmate medical $3 million. 1379 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,841 Medical examiner $2 million. 1380 00:43:25,841 --> 00:43:26,141 State court administration, 1381 00:43:26,141 --> 00:43:27,876 $4 million. 1382 00:43:27,876 --> 00:43:30,276 This includes state attorney, 1383 00:43:30,946 --> 00:43:31,180 public defender and the judicial 1384 00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:32,781 branch. 1385 00:43:32,781 --> 00:43:34,820 And the health department 1386 00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:34,850 $2 million. 1387 00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:36,180 That $34 million comes off the 1388 00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:37,853 top as required. 1389 00:43:37,853 --> 00:43:40,220 So the next two blocks are 1390 00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:40,355 really what the board has to 1391 00:43:40,355 --> 00:43:41,523 spend. 1392 00:43:41,523 --> 00:43:44,260 And some of them are again 1393 00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:44,560 outside of your ability 1394 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,560 flexibility. 1395 00:43:47,529 --> 00:43:48,830 So we have left right at 1396 00:43:48,830 --> 00:43:50,265 $500 million so half of your 1397 00:43:50,265 --> 00:43:53,865 budget has been spent before it 1398 00:43:54,336 --> 00:43:56,538 is in your hands really to look 1399 00:43:56,538 --> 00:43:58,538 at. 1400 00:43:58,807 --> 00:43:59,608 37.5% or 366 million of that are 1401 00:43:59,608 --> 00:44:00,775 restricted funds. 1402 00:44:00,775 --> 00:44:02,770 This goes back to commissioner 1403 00:44:02,770 --> 00:44:02,978 alford's point she just made a 1404 00:44:02,978 --> 00:44:04,978 few minutes ago. 1405 00:44:06,115 --> 00:44:07,820 We have our infrastructure 1406 00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:08,183 suforts $133 million of that. 1407 00:44:08,183 --> 00:44:09,885 That has to go for 1408 00:44:09,885 --> 00:44:11,286 infrastructure and things 1409 00:44:11,286 --> 00:44:11,586 outlined in the ballot 1410 00:44:11,586 --> 00:44:12,922 initiative. 1411 00:44:12,922 --> 00:44:15,322 We have targeted taxes. 1412 00:44:15,324 --> 00:44:17,660 These are your gas tax, your 1413 00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:21,260 cst, your pst, those things that 1414 00:44:21,330 --> 00:44:21,597 have to be used for specific 1415 00:44:21,597 --> 00:44:23,597 purposes. 1416 00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:25,234 You have your public safety 1417 00:44:25,234 --> 00:44:27,234 acfr. 1418 00:44:29,972 --> 00:44:31,730 This is your fire assessment of 1419 00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:32,675 $77 million and your fees and 1420 00:44:32,675 --> 00:44:34,110 your ambulance fees. 1421 00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:36,579 So there is a caveat, some of 1422 00:44:36,579 --> 00:44:37,780 this is subsidized by taxes. 1423 00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:39,682 But those obligations are also 1424 00:44:39,682 --> 00:44:40,550 made through your collective 1425 00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:41,884 bargaining agreement. 1426 00:44:41,884 --> 00:44:43,753 Things like kelly days and 1427 00:44:43,753 --> 00:44:45,187 staffing plans and how many 1428 00:44:45,187 --> 00:44:47,587 units you have open. 1429 00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:49,225 Your grants of 22 million, and 1430 00:44:49,225 --> 00:44:49,625 then your solid waste fund 1431 00:44:49,625 --> 00:44:51,194 $30 million. 1432 00:44:51,194 --> 00:44:52,528 So those are restricted sources 1433 00:44:52,528 --> 00:44:53,296 that have to be directed to a 1434 00:44:53,296 --> 00:44:55,296 certain area. 1435 00:44:55,998 --> 00:44:57,990 And those are built in, baked 1436 00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:58,634 into the budget if you will. 1437 00:44:58,634 --> 00:44:58,868 Some of those you do have to 1438 00:44:58,868 --> 00:45:00,736 approve. 1439 00:45:00,736 --> 00:45:01,571 Some of those you get 1440 00:45:01,571 --> 00:45:03,439 automatically from the state. 1441 00:45:03,439 --> 00:45:06,809 Some of those have been approved 1442 00:45:06,809 --> 00:45:09,209 a long time ago. 1443 00:45:11,381 --> 00:45:12,782 That leaves $133 million or 13 1444 00:45:12,782 --> 00:45:13,916 to 14% of your budget is really 1445 00:45:13,916 --> 00:45:15,618 now what you are looking at when 1446 00:45:15,618 --> 00:45:15,952 we do our annual budget 1447 00:45:15,952 --> 00:45:17,654 presentation. 1448 00:45:17,654 --> 00:45:19,422 That's what you are left with. 1449 00:45:19,422 --> 00:45:21,570 This was a big point for the 1450 00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:21,825 commission during our meetings 1451 00:45:21,825 --> 00:45:23,825 this year. 1452 00:45:24,427 --> 00:45:26,629 It's helping people understand 1453 00:45:26,629 --> 00:45:27,396 when they are frustrated of, 1454 00:45:27,396 --> 00:45:29,432 okay, this is where all those 1455 00:45:29,432 --> 00:45:32,335 dollars are going, this is how 1456 00:45:32,335 --> 00:45:33,169 much we are limited to, it is 1457 00:45:33,169 --> 00:45:33,970 how much flexibility we have and 1458 00:45:33,970 --> 00:45:35,404 what we're doing. 1459 00:45:35,404 --> 00:45:36,706 In addition to reducing your 1460 00:45:36,706 --> 00:45:39,706 millage to reduce your tax 1461 00:45:39,976 --> 00:45:40,510 burden, we really are allocating 1462 00:45:40,510 --> 00:45:42,450 $133 million. 1463 00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:43,280 37 million of that is your 1464 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,150 maintenance of physical plant. 1465 00:45:45,150 --> 00:45:46,416 That's your utility bills. 1466 00:45:46,416 --> 00:45:48,718 That's your renovation plans. 1467 00:45:48,718 --> 00:45:50,586 That's your rehab, keeping your 1468 00:45:50,586 --> 00:45:52,422 roofs, our air conditions fixed. 1469 00:45:52,422 --> 00:45:54,324 That's travis' team. 1470 00:45:54,324 --> 00:45:57,324 That's the utility bills, etc. 1471 00:45:57,827 --> 00:45:58,428 And your property insurance. 1472 00:45:58,428 --> 00:45:59,829 Roads, 24 million. 1473 00:45:59,829 --> 00:46:01,865 This is over and above what's 1474 00:46:01,865 --> 00:46:02,990 restricted by the infrastructure 1475 00:46:02,990 --> 00:46:02,966 surtax. 1476 00:46:02,966 --> 00:46:03,866 This is your general fund 1477 00:46:03,866 --> 00:46:05,302 commitment to roads. 1478 00:46:05,302 --> 00:46:06,436 So this is over and above it. 1479 00:46:06,436 --> 00:46:07,571 We'll talk about the combined 1480 00:46:07,571 --> 00:46:09,439 roads budget in a minute. 1481 00:46:09,439 --> 00:46:10,840 That's an additional 24 million 1482 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,840 you have allocated to roads. 1483 00:46:15,112 --> 00:46:16,346 County operations, $21 million. 1484 00:46:16,346 --> 00:46:18,115 This would be everything that 1485 00:46:18,115 --> 00:46:19,750 runs the county, H.R., my 1486 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:21,285 office, manager's office, county 1487 00:46:21,285 --> 00:46:21,618 attorney's office, your office, 1488 00:46:21,618 --> 00:46:23,618 etc. 1489 00:46:23,854 --> 00:46:26,756 These are all of your county, 1490 00:46:26,756 --> 00:46:28,358 typical county operations. 1491 00:46:28,358 --> 00:46:30,326 Housing and community support 1492 00:46:30,326 --> 00:46:32,726 services is at 16 million. 1493 00:46:32,863 --> 00:46:33,730 Those are departmentally program 1494 00:46:33,730 --> 00:46:35,730 based dollars. 1495 00:46:35,999 --> 00:46:37,401 Parks, environmental and land 1496 00:46:37,401 --> 00:46:39,801 conservation, outside again of 1497 00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:40,737 their infrastructure surtax 1498 00:46:40,737 --> 00:46:42,706 $13 million. 1499 00:46:42,706 --> 00:46:45,800 Court services, that's our 1500 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:45,609 operation of court services, our 1501 00:46:45,609 --> 00:46:47,609 employees, $11 million. 1502 00:46:49,647 --> 00:46:50,681 Planning and economic 1503 00:46:50,681 --> 00:46:52,681 development. 1504 00:46:53,316 --> 00:46:53,617 And then animal resources of 1505 00:46:53,617 --> 00:46:55,186 5 million. 1506 00:46:55,186 --> 00:46:57,188 So I think it's important for 1507 00:46:57,188 --> 00:46:58,122 the public to see that 1508 00:46:58,122 --> 00:46:58,689 $133 million is kind of the 1509 00:46:58,689 --> 00:47:00,524 allocation method. 1510 00:47:00,524 --> 00:47:02,260 And again 37 of that is physical 1511 00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:03,590 plant, so you're limited to what 1512 00:47:03,590 --> 00:47:04,929 you can control there. 1513 00:47:04,929 --> 00:47:05,896 So you're under $100 million 1514 00:47:05,896 --> 00:47:07,565 that you're actually allocating 1515 00:47:07,565 --> 00:47:08,332 out to programs and have a lot 1516 00:47:08,332 --> 00:47:09,800 of flexibility over. 1517 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,470 So again, we wanted to combine 1518 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:13,571 the bottom to show the county's 1519 00:47:13,571 --> 00:47:13,871 priorities, the board's 1520 00:47:13,871 --> 00:47:15,871 priorities. 1521 00:47:16,941 --> 00:47:18,409 That is public safety at 1522 00:47:18,409 --> 00:47:19,376 $252 million allocated to public 1523 00:47:19,376 --> 00:47:20,577 safety across the budget and 1524 00:47:20,577 --> 00:47:22,577 roads at $106 million. 1525 00:47:22,746 --> 00:47:24,114 This is just in the '27 budget. 1526 00:47:24,114 --> 00:47:25,449 So I think that's important for 1527 00:47:25,449 --> 00:47:26,584 y'all to understand. 1528 00:47:26,584 --> 00:47:26,984 >> chair: this is really great, 1529 00:47:26,984 --> 00:47:28,285 tommy. 1530 00:47:28,285 --> 00:47:29,920 Really helps with the 1531 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,554 transparency of what our budget 1532 00:47:30,554 --> 00:47:32,554 reflects. 1533 00:47:32,756 --> 00:47:33,357 What really stuck out to me is 1534 00:47:33,357 --> 00:47:35,757 $358 million is public safety 1535 00:47:36,193 --> 00:47:37,228 and roads of the 500 billion 1536 00:47:37,228 --> 00:47:38,596 restricted and remaining for 1537 00:47:38,596 --> 00:47:39,396 county operations. 1538 00:47:39,396 --> 00:47:40,497 >> yes, sir. 1539 00:47:40,497 --> 00:47:40,831 >> chair: questions, 1540 00:47:40,831 --> 00:47:41,532 commissioners? 1541 00:47:41,532 --> 00:47:41,799 >> MR. Chair, that concludes my 1542 00:47:41,799 --> 00:47:43,100 comments. 1543 00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:43,467 I'll be happy to answer any 1544 00:47:43,467 --> 00:47:45,467 questions. 1545 00:47:45,836 --> 00:47:46,503 >> chair: any questions, 1546 00:47:46,503 --> 00:47:47,572 commissioners? 1547 00:47:47,572 --> 00:47:47,972 >> wonderful. 1548 00:47:47,972 --> 00:47:48,473 >> chair: okay. 1549 00:47:48,473 --> 00:47:50,408 Tommy, thank you. 1550 00:47:50,408 --> 00:47:51,943 I would now like to go ahead and 1551 00:47:51,943 --> 00:47:53,578 invite citizens to comment on 1552 00:47:53,578 --> 00:47:55,279 the fiscal year 2027 proposed 1553 00:47:55,279 --> 00:47:55,880 millage rates and the tentative 1554 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,614 budget. 1555 00:47:56,614 --> 00:47:57,682 Please come forward to the 1556 00:47:57,682 --> 00:47:58,816 podium if you wish to address 1557 00:47:58,816 --> 00:48:00,816 the board. 1558 00:48:01,190 --> 00:48:01,752 We do request each speaker limit 1559 00:48:01,752 --> 00:48:03,455 comments to three minutes. 1560 00:48:03,455 --> 00:48:04,689 The hearing will continue until 1561 00:48:04,689 --> 00:48:05,856 everyone who wishes to address 1562 00:48:05,856 --> 00:48:07,625 this commission has had an 1563 00:48:07,625 --> 00:48:08,159 opportunity to speak. 1564 00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:09,930 Okay. 1565 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:11,796 Citizen comments on the budget 1566 00:48:11,796 --> 00:48:14,196 and the tentative millage. 1567 00:48:15,833 --> 00:48:17,936 Going once, going twice. 1568 00:48:17,936 --> 00:48:20,336 >> you skipped the manager. 1569 00:48:23,974 --> 00:48:26,974 >> chair: he just did that. 1570 00:48:27,110 --> 00:48:28,213 We'll go ahead and close public 1571 00:48:28,213 --> 00:48:28,780 comment of the public hearing. 1572 00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:28,946 All right. 1573 00:48:28,946 --> 00:48:30,682 MR. 1574 00:48:30,682 --> 00:48:31,750 Crosby. 1575 00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:34,150 >> MR. Chair, the budget 1576 00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:36,988 documents before you, the fiscal 1577 00:48:36,988 --> 00:48:38,723 year 2027 tentative budget 1578 00:48:38,723 --> 00:48:39,691 includes the changes that were 1579 00:48:39,691 --> 00:48:40,725 described earlier. 1580 00:48:40,725 --> 00:48:42,594 Any additional adjustments to 1581 00:48:42,594 --> 00:48:43,695 the budget can be made by motion 1582 00:48:43,695 --> 00:48:44,429 at this time. 1583 00:48:44,429 --> 00:48:46,429 >> chair: all right. 1584 00:48:46,998 --> 00:48:47,232 Any adjustments by the board? 1585 00:48:47,232 --> 00:48:49,232 Okay. 1586 00:48:49,734 --> 00:48:50,869 Seeing none, MS. Lieberman. 1587 00:48:50,869 --> 00:48:52,869 >> I'm just kidding. 1588 00:48:56,410 --> 00:48:56,307 I just like to give a scare. 1589 00:48:56,307 --> 00:48:58,210 [Laughter] 1590 00:48:58,210 --> 00:49:01,210 >> chair: not nice for a 1591 00:49:01,646 --> 00:49:02,346 commissioner in her 8th year. 1592 00:49:02,346 --> 00:49:04,282 Okay. 1593 00:49:04,282 --> 00:49:04,582 MS. Lieberman you are 1594 00:49:04,582 --> 00:49:05,383 recognized. 1595 00:49:05,383 --> 00:49:07,552 >> florida statutes require the 1596 00:49:07,552 --> 00:49:09,854 name of the taxing authority, 1597 00:49:09,854 --> 00:49:10,788 the millage rate to be levied, 1598 00:49:10,788 --> 00:49:11,390 the rolled-back rate and 1599 00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:13,390 percentage change over 1600 00:49:13,392 --> 00:49:13,792 rolled-back rate be publicly 1601 00:49:13,792 --> 00:49:15,494 announced. 1602 00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:16,940 Accordingly, the alachua county 1603 00:49:16,940 --> 00:49:17,696 board of county commissioners 1604 00:49:17,696 --> 00:49:20,696 has determined that a proposed 1605 00:49:20,932 --> 00:49:22,667 millage rate of 7.2107 mills is 1606 00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:23,468 necessary to fund the tentative 1607 00:49:23,468 --> 00:49:25,468 general county budget. 1608 00:49:25,971 --> 00:49:27,973 The proposed millage rate 1609 00:49:27,973 --> 00:49:30,373 represents a 0% increase over 1610 00:49:31,310 --> 00:49:31,876 the rolled-back rate of 7.2107 1611 00:49:31,876 --> 00:49:32,277 mills. 1612 00:49:32,277 --> 00:49:33,945 >> chair: okay. 1613 00:49:33,945 --> 00:49:34,446 Mary, you want to get us 1614 00:49:34,446 --> 00:49:34,746 started? 1615 00:49:34,746 --> 00:49:36,746 >> yeah. 1616 00:49:38,216 --> 00:49:41,216 I move adoption of resolution 1617 00:49:41,553 --> 00:49:43,953 2026-59 establishing the fiscal 1618 00:49:43,989 --> 00:49:44,890 year 2027 proposed general 1619 00:49:44,890 --> 00:49:45,224 county millage rates. 1620 00:49:45,224 --> 00:49:45,857 >> second. 1621 00:49:45,857 --> 00:49:47,593 >> chair: motion and second. 1622 00:49:47,593 --> 00:49:49,395 Any discussion? 1623 00:49:49,395 --> 00:49:50,763 All those in favor, say aye. 1624 00:49:50,763 --> 00:49:51,620 [Ayes] 1625 00:49:51,620 --> 00:49:53,620 Any opposed? 1626 00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:00,690 That motion is unanimous anna. 1627 00:50:01,407 --> 00:50:04,143 >> I move that we adopt the 2027 1628 00:50:04,143 --> 00:50:04,710 tentative general county budget. 1629 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:06,312 >> second. 1630 00:50:06,312 --> 00:50:06,545 >> chair: motion and couple of 1631 00:50:06,545 --> 00:50:07,779 seconds. 1632 00:50:07,779 --> 00:50:09,247 All those in favor, say aye. 1633 00:50:09,247 --> 00:50:10,182 [Ayes] 1634 00:50:10,182 --> 00:50:12,182 Any opposed? 1635 00:50:12,584 --> 00:50:13,452 That passes unanimously 1636 00:50:13,452 --> 00:50:14,320 MS. Lieberman. 1637 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,200 >> the rolled-back rate and the 1638 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,856 percentage change over 1639 00:50:16,856 --> 00:50:17,523 rolled-back rate be publicly 1640 00:50:17,523 --> 00:50:18,857 announced. 1641 00:50:18,857 --> 00:50:19,524 Accordingly, the alachua county 1642 00:50:19,524 --> 00:50:21,227 board of county commissioners 1643 00:50:21,227 --> 00:50:24,227 has determined that a proposed 1644 00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:27,366 millage rate of 3.5678 mills for 1645 00:50:27,366 --> 00:50:28,167 the municipal service taxing 1646 00:50:28,167 --> 00:50:30,336 unit law enforcement is required 1647 00:50:30,336 --> 00:50:31,804 to fund the tentative municipal 1648 00:50:31,804 --> 00:50:32,438 service taxing unit law 1649 00:50:32,438 --> 00:50:33,839 enforcement budget. 1650 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:36,239 The tentative millage rate 1651 00:50:36,776 --> 00:50:39,176 represents an increase of 5.47% 1652 00:50:41,514 --> 00:50:42,481 over the rolled-back rate of 1653 00:50:42,481 --> 00:50:44,481 3.3829 mills. 1654 00:50:46,184 --> 00:50:49,184 >> move the adoption of the 1655 00:50:49,288 --> 00:50:51,288 resolution 2026-61 establishing 1656 00:50:52,758 --> 00:50:54,626 fy27 proposed municipal service 1657 00:50:54,626 --> 00:50:55,628 taxing unit, law enforcement 1658 00:50:55,628 --> 00:50:56,295 millage rate. 1659 00:50:56,295 --> 00:50:57,363 >> econd. 1660 00:50:57,363 --> 00:50:57,930 >> chair: motion and a second. 1661 00:50:57,930 --> 00:50:58,231 All those in favor, say aye. 1662 00:50:58,231 --> 00:51:00,231 [Ayes] 1663 00:51:00,766 --> 00:51:02,766 Any opposed? 1664 00:51:02,935 --> 00:51:04,837 That motion is unanimous. 1665 00:51:04,837 --> 00:51:05,104 Commissioner wheeler. 1666 00:51:05,104 --> 00:51:07,104 >> okay. 1667 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,400 Move adoption of resolution 1668 00:51:10,276 --> 00:51:12,276 2026-62, adopting changed 1669 00:51:12,445 --> 00:51:14,547 revenue estimates in the fiscal 1670 00:51:14,547 --> 00:51:16,547 year 2027 tentative municipal 1671 00:51:16,782 --> 00:51:18,151 service taxing unit law 1672 00:51:18,151 --> 00:51:18,785 enforcement budget. 1673 00:51:18,785 --> 00:51:19,652 >> second. 1674 00:51:19,652 --> 00:51:20,720 >> chair: motion and a second. 1675 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:20,920 All those in favor, say aye. 1676 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,454 [Ayes] 1677 00:51:21,454 --> 00:51:23,560 Any opposed? 1678 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,156 That motion is unanimous. 1679 00:51:24,156 --> 00:51:25,758 Okay. 1680 00:51:25,758 --> 00:51:26,793 This concludes the tentative 1681 00:51:26,793 --> 00:51:27,894 budget hearing. 1682 00:51:27,894 --> 00:51:29,863 Reminder the second and final 1683 00:51:29,863 --> 00:51:31,865 public hearing will be held 1684 00:51:31,865 --> 00:51:34,265 tuesday SEPTEMBER 22nd right 1685 00:51:36,202 --> 00:51:37,300 here 5:01 in the alachua county 1686 00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:38,438 building. 1687 00:51:38,438 --> 00:51:41,174 12 southeast first street on the 1688 00:51:41,174 --> 00:51:43,430 second floor. 1689 00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:44,511 And I believe that concludes our 1690 00:51:44,511 --> 00:51:45,178 business for the night. 1691 00:51:45,178 --> 00:51:45,745 Tommy, great job. 1692 00:51:45,745 --> 00:51:47,113 Thank you. 1693 00:51:47,113 --> 00:51:47,814 We'll see you again in a couple 1694 00:51:47,814 --> 00:51:49,814 of weeks.